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Speaker 1: Welcome bird Gang. On today's show, the twenty twenty one

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Speaker 1: picture is becoming clearer. Not much clearer, mind you, but

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Speaker 1: more clearer than it was a few days ago. We

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Speaker 1: are getting more and more news on what this season

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Speaker 1: might look like, i e. Salary cap and speaking of

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Speaker 1: the cap, just how much of that dollar amount should

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Speaker 1: be carved out for the quarterback position. If depth matters,

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Speaker 1: and it does, then this team needs to devote some

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Speaker 1: resources behind Kyla Murray, not just around Kyla Murray. It's

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Speaker 1: Cardinals Cover two, episode four h two, and it starts now.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Cardinals Cover two with Craig Griga Lewin Mike Jarecki.

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Speaker 1: Cardinals Cover two is presented by Hyundai, proud partner of

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Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals, and by Arizona Cardinals Podcasts Visit acy

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Speaker 1: Cardinals dot com, Slash Podcasts. Murray rolls to the right,

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Speaker 1: throws to your site of Fritz bought he He's into

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Speaker 1: the ends after the touchdown. Here's Craig Griolou and Mike Jareckie. Well,

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Speaker 1: teams MJ had to know sooner rather than later, and

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Speaker 1: I'm sure they would have preferred to have known maybe

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Speaker 1: a week or two ago, but the number is in

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Speaker 1: as we talk about the salary cap, the number is

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Speaker 1: So teams now with an extra two and a half

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Speaker 1: So I do think a significant number, not nearly a

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Speaker 1: and I think they were waiting, Craig, because we still

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Speaker 1: cards Chatter on Twitter, he listed the Cardinals are fourteen

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Speaker 1: Cardinals cover two. And you talked about Darren Urban also

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Speaker 1: Kyle Utguard onasy Cardinals dot com. Great follows and great

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Speaker 1: what the Cardinals will do or have already done with

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Speaker 1: that the past two seasons late in the year when

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Speaker 1: that threat was taken away late in the season because

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Speaker 1: he was banged up both games against the Rams in

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Speaker 1: twenty nineteen and twenty twenty and he just couldn't be

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Speaker 1: him self. And I think that is a factor here.

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Speaker 1: It's not so much the numbers, but the fact that

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Speaker 1: he has that ability, so as a defense, you have

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Speaker 1: to plan for it, you have to account for that,

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Speaker 1: and I think that is why Kyler Murray is so dynamic.

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Speaker 1: Couldn't have said it better. I totally agree, and that's

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Speaker 1: what makes him unique and dynamic in the open field.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he could put that ball down and run me.

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Speaker 1: I think he's got four or three speed, and it

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Speaker 1: looks like he's a little faster when guys are running

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Speaker 1: chasing him. Yeah. Like I said, it's just the little things.

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Speaker 1: And he from a standpoint of holding the ball, and

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Speaker 1: you know, there are times when obviously he's trying to

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Speaker 1: run to make a play, but I think he learns

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Speaker 1: now to throw it out of bounce. For the first year,

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Speaker 1: he may have tried to force it the sacks were down,

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Speaker 1: you know. He but again, because he's a dual threat,

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Speaker 1: he is a weapon in the run game. But I

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Speaker 1: just you got to rely on your one and two punch,

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Speaker 1: especially in that short yardage. Because the Cardinals had plenty

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Speaker 1: of opportunities and stravelers in their early season. We didn't

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Speaker 1: see him and then sometimes they'll run a jet sweep

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Speaker 1: or something. At some point you got to get a

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Speaker 1: bigger back five eleven, two twenty two, twenty five, two

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Speaker 1: thirty and let him be the grunt guy so Murray

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Speaker 1: doesn't have to deal with that. And again we did

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Speaker 1: see after the teams were playing that much defense. It

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Speaker 1: was about three weeks with that much defense, and then

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Speaker 1: Cliffs started moving Hopkin around, they were getting more protection.

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Speaker 1: They kind of figured it out, and that's what football

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Speaker 1: is about. You have to make adjustments. The other adjustment

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Speaker 1: that I think we did see later on in the

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Speaker 1: season and has gotten a lot of talk, is how

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Speaker 1: much time might we see Kyle Murray under center coming

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Speaker 1: up this season? It did become more of something that

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Speaker 1: we saw later in the year, and it is something

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Speaker 1: that when things aren't working on offense and you're asking

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Speaker 1: yourself why or what do you do or what adjustments?

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Speaker 1: A lot of people came back to, hey, you know what,

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Speaker 1: get under center. It gives the defense a different look.

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Speaker 1: You're able to do a little bit more when you're

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Speaker 1: under center as far as disguising things. The angles are

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Speaker 1: a little bit more better as far as whether you're

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Speaker 1: handing the ball off, you're trying to run a jet sweep,

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Speaker 1: so it doesn't have to be all the time, and

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Speaker 1: I think we are seeing offenses across the league be

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Speaker 1: more comfortable with their quarterback out of the shotgun. But

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Speaker 1: I think if you just changed it up a little bit,

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Speaker 1: and I don't know if that's the right answer or not.

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Speaker 1: We were searching for a lot of answers late in

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Speaker 1: the season. When that offense stalled after five straight games

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Speaker 1: of thirty or more points and four hundred plus yards,

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Speaker 1: something changed. The defense changed, right, I mean they were

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Speaker 1: the defense made its adjustments, so now the onus was

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Speaker 1: on the offense to make hits. And I just don't

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Speaker 1: think they were quick enough and making their adjustments. I

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Speaker 1: think when you look at it, what they were doing

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Speaker 1: is before they were trying to rush up the field

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Speaker 1: and sack him. Here, they were rushing up the field

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Speaker 1: to keep him in the pocket. That mush that defense.

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Speaker 1: So the thing is, any quarterback will tell you when

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Speaker 1: your shoulders are square to the field, you can see

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Speaker 1: the entire field when you go underneath center. Now, there

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Speaker 1: are times for when you utilize the play action because

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Speaker 1: when you go under center, you're turning your one shoulder

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Speaker 1: back and you don't see the entire field and the

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Speaker 1: Cardinals run so much. Our pos run run pass. There's

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Speaker 1: three options. A kyler could running, he can hand it off,

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Speaker 1: or you can throw it. Then they run the zone read.

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Speaker 1: It's based on the defensive ent is he cheating to

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Speaker 1: come up a field and then back can get past them,

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Speaker 1: and then they run the pistol offense. That's a big

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Speaker 1: part of what they do. And when you look at

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Speaker 1: the Ravens, you even look at the Bills. The Bills

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Speaker 1: run a lot of ten personnel, but they run the pistol.

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Speaker 1: We saw on Monday Night Football when Baltimore was on

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Speaker 1: the pistol. So I think quarterbacks are comfortable they can

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Speaker 1: see the entire field. Now he's dynamic enough, and maybe

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Speaker 1: because he has to drift sometimes to throw some of

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Speaker 1: those balls over the middle, because he's throwing good balls

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Speaker 1: to Dan Arnold on the scene, that doesn't seem to

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Speaker 1: be an issue. But I just think quarterbacks are comfortable

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Speaker 1: when they can see the entire field and that allows

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Speaker 1: you to go through your progressions even though it's likely

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Speaker 1: going to be a quick handoff or a quick throw.

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Speaker 1: We continue here on this Wednesday edition of Cardinals Covered two,

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Speaker 1: presented by Hunday Proud partner of the Arizona Cardinals. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: Kyler Murray is quack one. Cardinals do have two other

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks right now on that roster, Chris Streveler and Cole

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Speaker 1: McDonald who signed a futures contract. Let's talk about him

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Speaker 1: first six, three, two fifteen. He is certainly a bigger

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Speaker 1: body than a Kyler Murray or even a Chris Streveler,

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Speaker 1: former seventh round draft pick of the Titans who was

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Speaker 1: released last offseason during training camp. Comes out of Hawaii.

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Speaker 1: He's got great numbers in college, and you just wonder,

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Speaker 1: you know, he seems, without diving into a lot of

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Speaker 1: Cole McDonald film, he seems more to be that traditional

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Speaker 1: drop back quarterback and perhaps maybe someone that the team

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Speaker 1: is intrigued about, not for this season, not to be

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Speaker 1: the backup, but perhaps maybe another arm, if you will,

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Speaker 1: and maybe they have found something down the road. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it doesn't hurt, you know. I think the late Ron

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Speaker 1: Wolf always said, you know, take a quarterback every couple

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Speaker 1: of years. Now, you don't do it in the first round,

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Speaker 1: but you kind of every couple of years. Maybe the

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Speaker 1: Packers took that advice and drafted Jordan Love last year.

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Speaker 1: I did say not the first round every year, but anyways, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean you'd like to flood the position, you know,

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Speaker 1: depending on what the practice squad numbers are going to

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Speaker 1: be this year. You know, usually the backup quarterback runs

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Speaker 1: the scout team, but we know the camp Turner can throw.

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Speaker 1: Mike Berkovich, you can throw if they had to. Their

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Speaker 1: both coaches Cliff Cliff didn't really throw a lot last

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Speaker 1: year because he was focusing on, you know, getting up

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Speaker 1: to speak with Kyler and then getting Straveler and yeah,

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Speaker 1: so I mean, but I think the elephant in the

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Speaker 1: room here is they have to upgrade that backup quarterback position.

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Speaker 1: Nothing against Chris Streveler, you know again tysom Hill, but

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Speaker 1: you know if Kyler Murray is going to withstand some

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Speaker 1: of those hits in the last couple of years, you know,

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Speaker 1: in late in the year, he's he's been banged up

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Speaker 1: a little bit, and give him credit for playing. He's

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Speaker 1: least started two years in a row, sixteen games, and

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Speaker 1: you know that he hasn't finished. But I just would

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Speaker 1: look what happened in the in the weeks weeks seven

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Speaker 1: or sixteen and seventeen, you know, when Kyler wasn't one

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Speaker 1: and obviously when he had CJ. Betha Um, Jonathan Wolfford,

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Speaker 1: I mean, and Streddlers in the game and they had

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Speaker 1: him throwing, I'm like, this is not what he does.

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Speaker 1: So I was again, I should have maybe challenge it more.

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Speaker 1: Why he Why I brought Hunley, wasn't the backup because

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Speaker 1: that's what you need. Huney did a good job and

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Speaker 1: he came in that Seattle game. I mean, Honey is

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Speaker 1: similar to Kyler Murray's skill set, right, Yeah, I mean

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Speaker 1: he's bigger, but as far as the ability to to

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Speaker 1: run and then also throw the football, because I do

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Speaker 1: think the Cardinals did Chris Streveler a disservice as far

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Speaker 1: as setting him up for the possibility of taking over

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Speaker 1: for Kyler Murray if Murray would get hurt, and it

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Speaker 1: did happen in Week seventeen. We saw Stradler early on

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Speaker 1: in the year. He had one offensive snap in both

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Speaker 1: weeks one and two, and he had a one rushing

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Speaker 1: attempt as well in Week one at San Francisco. Then

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Speaker 1: he did not see the field again until Week eleven,

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Speaker 1: and that was on special teams. So there was obviously

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Speaker 1: a decision made or they saw enough of Straddler like, look,

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Speaker 1: this is not going to work this gimmick if you will,

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Speaker 1: or this particular play. We need to come up with

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Speaker 1: something different. That's fine. Yet, if that was the case

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Speaker 1: and he's still your backup, which we were told he was,

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Speaker 1: I don't think there was enough progress from him to

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Speaker 1: be that guy in an emergency and there was an

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Speaker 1: emergency in week seventeen to come in and lead the

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Speaker 1: team to a victory. Brett Hunley the year before was

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Speaker 1: that guy to help lead the team to a win

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Speaker 1: in Seattle. He was very emotional about it because that's

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Speaker 1: the team he played for. But it was big for

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Speaker 1: Brett Hunley. He had the experience. But once that decision

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Speaker 1: was made in training camp that Straddler was going to

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Speaker 1: be the backup, Brett Hunley became a non factor if

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Speaker 1: you will, because he was inactive for all sixteen games.

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Speaker 1: And that can't happen going into this season. I'm sorry,

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Speaker 1: it can't be Kyler Murray and Chris Traveler one and

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Speaker 1: two as your depth chart at quarterback position here this season. Well,

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Speaker 1: we watched the postseason again, it comes down to, you know,

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Speaker 1: turnovers and protected the quarterback and winning the trenches. But

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Speaker 1: I mean look at the Rams. I mean, they had

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Speaker 1: the number one defense going in the playoffs, and then

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you know, they had to go

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Speaker 1: back to Jared Comma from clearly during the years he

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Speaker 1: followed the story they were, they were not excited. They

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Speaker 1: had to go back when Walford gets hurt. You see

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Speaker 1: what happened in Washington. Yeah, I mean it's you have

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Speaker 1: to have a backup quarterback in a pinch, Chad Henny.

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Speaker 1: Chad Henny filled in adwardly for Patrick Mahomes. Now you

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Speaker 1: can make the argument, m JA that if they do

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Speaker 1: not have a Chad Henny, that perhaps the Chiefs don't

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Speaker 1: win that ballgame. Now, granted it was against Cleveland, but

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Speaker 1: it was a huge third down conversion. I mean, it's

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Speaker 1: good to me. It was a fourth down conversion that

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Speaker 1: was a huge part of the ball game. And then

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Speaker 1: you look at Tampa Bay's run. Who gave them their

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Speaker 1: most challenging contest. It was Washington with Tyler Heineke as

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Speaker 1: the quarterback. So it does matter. And the point here,

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Speaker 1: burd Gang is, look where if a team loses their

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Speaker 1: starting quarterback, i e. The Dallas Cowboys. Well, I'm sorry,

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Speaker 1: you're you're out of luck. It's just not going to happen.

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Speaker 1: Although I'll say this the NFC East and Andy Dalton

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Speaker 1: almost got the Cowboys into the postseason. But if you're

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Speaker 1: gonna lose your quarterback for the season, all bets are off.

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Speaker 1: Look to next year. But you need someone that can

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Speaker 1: guide you for a three four five week stretch that

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Speaker 1: can win you ball games, keep the game close. Perhaps

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Speaker 1: maybe there's a defensive play or a special team's play,

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Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, when that starter gets back,

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Speaker 1: you're not in the hole, or you've maintained your position

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Speaker 1: as far as playoff seating is concerned. That is my

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Speaker 1: point this offseason. The Cardinals need to be able to

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Speaker 1: answer this question, if Kyler Murray gets hurt, do we

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Speaker 1: have confidence in X quarterback to lead us two wins

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Speaker 1: over a three to four week stretch? And you could

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Speaker 1: not answer that in the definitive with Chris Streveler Craig.

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Speaker 1: Some teams value the backup quarterback, you know the Rams.

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Speaker 1: They didn't value the head John John Woolford in Black

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Speaker 1: prot back Blake Bortles, who was a starting quarterback, you

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Speaker 1: know San Francisco. I think if they do keep Jimmy Garoppolo.

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Speaker 1: They're going to go after a Vengan quarterback. Nothing against

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Speaker 1: Nick Mullins and c. J. Bethat they were draft picks.

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Speaker 1: And you know, Shanahan's a really good offensive minded quarterbacks coach.

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Speaker 1: And the shifting Seattle, I mean, is it Geno Smith?

643
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Speaker 1: He is the backup quarterback. But you're a quarterback in

644
00:33:56,240 --> 00:34:00,959
Speaker 1: Buffalo's Matt Barkley, you know, backup quarterback in Cleveland case Keenum.

645
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:03,080
Speaker 1: He's got a nice contract. I think he would fit

646
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:06,160
Speaker 1: Kingsbury system because he played in that air raid. I'm

647
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:09,000
Speaker 1: not compared. So now we got to get intoo. You

648
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:11,960
Speaker 1: know Ryan Fitzpatrick, he could he could go to a

649
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:14,920
Speaker 1: team and start till the rookie gets ready, or you know,

650
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Speaker 1: maybe just be a backup. But initially, you know, there

651
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:19,879
Speaker 1: was a report that maybe he retire. He still wants

652
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 1: to play. But now the question becomes, do you get

653
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Speaker 1: a veteran that obviously he's not going to threaten Kyler Murray? Um,

654
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:29,759
Speaker 1: you know, could be an asset in the in the

655
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Speaker 1: quarterback room, and do you want a player that has

656
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 1: a similar skill set as Kyler Murray so you don't

657
00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 1: have to change your office, and I think that was

658
00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:40,880
Speaker 1: the process was Chris Streveler, even though we know, you know,

659
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:42,600
Speaker 1: he's a little bit bigger, he doesn't run a four

660
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:46,319
Speaker 1: to three. You know, he's he's an under achiever, so

661
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:49,080
Speaker 1: to speak. But he's he's a guy that's not afraid

662
00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:51,920
Speaker 1: to go down and cover a cake. So when you

663
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Speaker 1: look at that, you know we're gonna go through some

664
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Speaker 1: of the names because if you're gonna and it's and

665
00:34:58,360 --> 00:34:59,960
Speaker 1: it's not going to cost you one or two million,

666
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,279
Speaker 1: and sometimes it costs three to four million, and this

667
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:04,560
Speaker 1: is probably not the year that you can invest in that.

668
00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:07,279
Speaker 1: But if something and I couldn't agree more with you,

669
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Speaker 1: if Murray goes down in the first month of the season,

670
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:11,560
Speaker 1: well you just got to take your lung. But if

671
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Speaker 1: something happens in week fourteen or fifteen, he's got to

672
00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:15,239
Speaker 1: miss a few weeks. You don't want to have a

673
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:18,880
Speaker 1: huge rout all. That's the point. And I think based

674
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Speaker 1: on Traveler's lack of reps after the first couple of weeks,

675
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:25,320
Speaker 1: I think the thought was we're not taking Kyler Murray

676
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 1: off the field. Now, there are times you can didn't

677
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:32,480
Speaker 1: have a couple of direct snaps to Kenyan Drake correct,

678
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:34,879
Speaker 1: Murray would go out as a receiver. Now you've got

679
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:37,160
Speaker 1: to be careful there because now he's a legit players

680
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 1: a lot of times that he'll run the other way,

681
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:41,880
Speaker 1: but there are times that have direct snaps. But I

682
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:44,520
Speaker 1: think the thought processes, we're not taking Kyler Murray off

683
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Speaker 1: the field to do this. Again. The problem with looking

684
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Speaker 1: for a backup quarterback, and you mentioned it is a

685
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:54,440
Speaker 1: lot of these guys veterans, if you will, still believe

686
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Speaker 1: and it's the true athlete, they still believe that they

687
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:03,400
Speaker 1: can start. So now all of a sudden, it's okay,

688
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:06,480
Speaker 1: who do you find now versus who might you find

689
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:11,080
Speaker 1: later on because there are no starting spots open or

690
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:15,359
Speaker 1: the quote unquote compete to be a starter. And then

691
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:17,400
Speaker 1: all of a sudden you brought up, yes, money as

692
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Speaker 1: a factor as well. We're having this conversation when the

693
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Speaker 1: salary cap as we discussed at the top of the

694
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Speaker 1: hour or at the top of the show, I should

695
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 1: say it's sixteen million than it was a year ago.

696
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:32,480
Speaker 1: So you have to invest wisely. But I do think

697
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:34,960
Speaker 1: it's worth taking a look at the resources that this

698
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:39,080
Speaker 1: team puts at the quarterback position. Overall, and invest in

699
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Speaker 1: a second quarterback, a backup who won, as you said,

700
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Speaker 1: is capable. I don't care about the same skill set

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Speaker 1: as Kyler Murray. Can you perform quarterback duties in the NFL?

702
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:56,320
Speaker 1: And then two, can you challenge? Can you be that teacher,

703
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Speaker 1: that guy that mentor if you will in the quarterback

704
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:03,920
Speaker 1: room and not be a threat as far as Kyler

705
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 1: has to always look over his shoulder to make sure

706
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:09,759
Speaker 1: whomever it is is trying to you know, not I'm

707
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 1: gonna say sabotage, but at least not be a team

708
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:16,400
Speaker 1: guy the betterment for the team. Drew Stanton is the

709
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:20,239
Speaker 1: perfect example. There are very few Drew Stanton's out there

710
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:22,320
Speaker 1: on the market, but he's the one name that comes

711
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:25,799
Speaker 1: to mind. He knew, he understood his role with the

712
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:30,480
Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals backing up Carson Palmer. That's very hard to find,

713
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Speaker 1: especially when everyone believes that they should be on the field. Well,

714
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:38,719
Speaker 1: when Arians took the job, one of his first signings

715
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:42,160
Speaker 1: was Drew Stanton, and within three weeks Steve Kyman and

716
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Speaker 1: b a pull off the trade for Carson Palmer. And

717
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:47,360
Speaker 1: you know Drew obviously, you know he said he's carved

718
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 1: out a nice career. Michigan State guy, his second round pick,

719
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 1: played in Detroit. Arians liked him, and he again he

720
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Speaker 1: wants to play, just like Chase Daniel. I think Josh

721
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:02,360
Speaker 1: McCown know he could be a coach in Houston or

722
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Speaker 1: possibly a backup quarterback. He's to me ideal, he's a

723
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Speaker 1: sounding board. But let's go through some of the names

724
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Speaker 1: just based on you know, again, Chad Henney doesn't have

725
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:18,319
Speaker 1: the same skill set as Patrick Mahomes, but he's been

726
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:21,879
Speaker 1: in Andy Reid system and there wasn't a drop off.

727
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Speaker 1: So I mean to say that they need somebody like

728
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Speaker 1: Kyler Murray. Well I get it, because you don't have

729
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Speaker 1: to change your offense, but we know they would be

730
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Speaker 1: a drop off regardless of it is. So let's go

731
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Speaker 1: through some of your list here, and you know, we're

732
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Speaker 1: gonna talk about pocket passers and you know, guys that

733
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Speaker 1: can you know, obviously spend the ball down the field,

734
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:42,200
Speaker 1: and then some guys that I have a dual threat

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Speaker 1: to their ability. I kind of did the list based

736
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Speaker 1: off of number of starts, not seasons. So the first

737
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Speaker 1: name on the list is Joe Flacco. The Cardinals faced

738
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Speaker 1: Flacco a year ago, but again a veteran on the

739
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:56,920
Speaker 1: downside of his career. You've got Alex Smith on the

740
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Speaker 1: market after he was released by Washington wat Ryan Fitzpatrick.

741
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:03,640
Speaker 1: We've talked about him a lot just because of his

742
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:06,960
Speaker 1: ties to the state of Arizona, but we know that

743
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:10,719
Speaker 1: he would prefer to be a starter. Andy Dalton, who

744
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:14,759
Speaker 1: backed up Dak Prescott last year with the cat Dallas Cowboys.

745
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:17,799
Speaker 1: Another guy on the market a Tyrod Taylor if you will,

746
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Speaker 1: Robert Griffin the third. Just some guys that have more

747
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:24,359
Speaker 1: than forty starts in this league, but in the case

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Speaker 1: of Flacco, Smith, it's Patrick and Dalton. They all have

749
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Speaker 1: over one hundred and forty starts, so you're not worried

750
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Speaker 1: about is the stage too big for them if they

751
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:35,960
Speaker 1: have to come in for a stretch or a period

752
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:38,600
Speaker 1: of time on a Sunday. That's what I want to

753
00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 1: see as someone that has the experience. So there is

754
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Speaker 1: some confidence because as we found out, and you know,

755
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:49,759
Speaker 1: I'm right there with the MJ, we didn't think too

756
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:52,400
Speaker 1: much of it during training camp, and we probably should have.

757
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:55,440
Speaker 1: But you never expect your quarterback to get hurt. You

758
00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 1: never expect to lose your quarterback, So you so you

759
00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:00,120
Speaker 1: just put it out of your mind. I think it

760
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Speaker 1: has to be at the forefront of your mind now.

761
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Speaker 1: And a couple of the names you mentioned, Tyrod Taylor,

762
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Speaker 1: you know, a few years ago. I think it may

763
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:12,680
Speaker 1: have been the Josh Allen draft where they were looking

764
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:17,560
Speaker 1: to unload him and he ended up geting traded to

765
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Speaker 1: Cleveland and Taylor he's a shorter guy. You know, in

766
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:26,080
Speaker 1: that playoff game, he suffered a concussion and then they

767
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:28,120
Speaker 1: obviously wanted to move on from him, and then he

768
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Speaker 1: was in Cleveland. He actually started over Baker Mayfield, and

769
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Speaker 1: then they went to Mayfield because he was the first

770
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Speaker 1: overall pick, and then we know what happened with the

771
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Speaker 1: Chargers last year. I'm kind of intrigued with Tyrod Taylor.

772
00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:42,160
Speaker 1: I think he's he can spin the ball down the field. Again,

773
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Speaker 1: he's not the tallest guy, but I think he's accurate.

774
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Speaker 1: I think he can run the offense. You know, RG

775
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Speaker 1: three people are going to look at his career and obviously,

776
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Speaker 1: you know he was as a rookie, he was very successful,

777
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:56,520
Speaker 1: but he never protected his body and maybe Mike shanahandle

778
00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:58,759
Speaker 1: I had a lot to do with that. But he's

779
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:02,160
Speaker 1: been in that Ravens off. He's been backing up Lamar Jackson.

780
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Speaker 1: I'm kind of intrigued with him, thirty one years old,

781
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:08,239
Speaker 1: as you pointed out, nine seasons, forty two starts. I

782
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Speaker 1: don't know what's going to happen with Jcobe Burusett. They

783
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:13,839
Speaker 1: were saying all the right things down there, but you know,

784
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:16,680
Speaker 1: he's got a high cap number. You know, Brian Hoyer

785
00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:20,880
Speaker 1: has been a journeyman. I don't know the Cardinals did

786
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:23,120
Speaker 1: have him before. I think Todd Haley had him in

787
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:26,680
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh and they brought him in Colton McCoy's. You know,

788
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Speaker 1: he's he's got the spread offense based on what he'd

789
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:33,600
Speaker 1: done in college and the teams he's played for. We've

790
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:36,480
Speaker 1: been down the road with Mike Glennon, you know, Matt Barkley,

791
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:40,520
Speaker 1: Nick Mullins, AJ McCarn so, I would think, you know,

792
00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:42,840
Speaker 1: if if the price is right now, I do you know,

793
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:45,400
Speaker 1: there's rumors that Andy Dalton could sign with the Broncos

794
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:48,520
Speaker 1: to create competition now. You know, who knows if they're

795
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:50,480
Speaker 1: going to try to get a quarterback in the offseason.

796
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:53,520
Speaker 1: You know, it's it's a big year for Drew Locke.

797
00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:56,759
Speaker 1: They think they're gonna, you know, get some some of

798
00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:59,839
Speaker 1: the receivers back Sutton and you know when you look

799
00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:02,120
Speaker 1: at their roster so and be interested to see is

800
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Speaker 1: Andy Dalton look at first starting job. Is he going

801
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 1: to go in there and compete with a guy like

802
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:08,400
Speaker 1: Drew Locke. So I don't think you can compete with

803
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:11,040
Speaker 1: those guys. But other guys, they're gonna have to take

804
00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:13,239
Speaker 1: a one year deal, and if you've been in the

805
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:15,400
Speaker 1: league over seven years, it's probably going to be a

806
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:18,040
Speaker 1: million dollars said. You don't have to overpay, but if

807
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:20,920
Speaker 1: you make starts and you're active on game day, you

808
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:23,600
Speaker 1: can also supplement your income over the course of a year.

809
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:28,040
Speaker 1: Some other names, Mike Glennon, who is here with the Cardinals.

810
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:31,040
Speaker 1: You've got the two quarterbacks in San Francisco and Nick

811
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 1: Mullins CJ. Beeth that are available, Matt Barkley. As we

812
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:37,480
Speaker 1: talked about AJ McCarron, you know, not a lot of starts,

813
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:39,680
Speaker 1: not a lot of experience, but just guys who have

814
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:43,120
Speaker 1: been in the league for a number of years. And

815
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Speaker 1: we've already heard John Lynch say that they need to

816
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:50,239
Speaker 1: get better as a backup behind Jimmy Garoppolo. Because of

817
00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:52,840
Speaker 1: how much time Garoppolo has missed. Now that's not the

818
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:55,799
Speaker 1: case with the Cardinals. They don't need to worry about that,

819
00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:59,160
Speaker 1: as I knock on wood here, because Murray has not

820
00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:02,440
Speaker 1: missed a starts. But this is something that I do

821
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:05,759
Speaker 1: think and I'd love to know because and I do

822
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:09,240
Speaker 1: get that twenty twenty one might not be the best

823
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:12,120
Speaker 1: time to have this conversation because of the salary cap,

824
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:14,440
Speaker 1: but I just don't want to get into a situation

825
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:19,600
Speaker 1: again because if Brett Hunley, what if he came in

826
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:24,040
Speaker 1: week seventeen, could he have beaten the Los Angeles Rams

827
00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:25,719
Speaker 1: that afternoon? I mean I don't know. I mean we

828
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:28,640
Speaker 1: were getting calls on the postgame show asking that question.

829
00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:31,719
Speaker 1: We dismissed it at the time because he wasn't inactive,

830
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 1: so you really couldn't have that conversation. But looking back,

831
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:40,719
Speaker 1: it's worth bringing up. And I think, again, no one

832
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:43,319
Speaker 1: likes to talk about the backup quarterback, but I would

833
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:46,160
Speaker 1: like to see and if we don't get that backup

834
00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:48,640
Speaker 1: quarter MJ, I would like to have that conversation or

835
00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:52,960
Speaker 1: the reason, like, okay, why not to give me the explanation?

836
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 1: Why not? Because I do think it's important, and hopefully,

837
00:43:57,120 --> 00:43:59,919
Speaker 1: let's be honest, hopefully we don't ever see that play

838
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:03,480
Speaker 1: ever on the football field. But we talk about depth

839
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:07,480
Speaker 1: at other positions, why not at the quarterback position. All

840
00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:11,400
Speaker 1: fair points and no disrespect to Chris Struveler, but I

841
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:14,680
Speaker 1: don't know if Brett would have played that bad. I mean, again,

842
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:17,880
Speaker 1: he was throwing the mix, you know, eleven or sixteen,

843
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:20,840
Speaker 1: one hundred and five yards, one touchdown, one interception, sacked

844
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Speaker 1: twice over twenty eight snaps. I just didn't like the

845
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 1: way they had him thrown the ball down the fields, like,

846
00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:30,560
Speaker 1: let's work what's you know, maybe work the chains or

847
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:33,800
Speaker 1: the sticks, kind of get some momentum there. But again,

848
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:36,200
Speaker 1: they had more film than I do, so I I mean,

849
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:38,920
Speaker 1: we don't get a chance to watch practice. Clearly, I

850
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:40,839
Speaker 1: think we would have benefited a lot of these guys.

851
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:43,400
Speaker 1: I could say this every day. They would have been

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Speaker 1: nice to see Chris struvel in a preseason game playing

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Speaker 1: that whole fourth fourth preseason. It didn't happen. I could

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Speaker 1: say the same thing about Isaiah Simmons. It didn't happen.

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Speaker 1: But I think young players definitely need to get on

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Speaker 1: the field, and they need to get more live action.

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Speaker 1: It's different from preseason games to regular season games to

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Speaker 1: postseason games, and unfortunately it just didn't happen and you

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Speaker 1: can't put it on the player, but they need to

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Speaker 1: be get on the field to get better and live action. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we're having this discussion because the Cardinals fell short of

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Speaker 1: their goal and anytime you do, we have to figure

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Speaker 1: out why, or hey, let's make sure it doesn't happen again.

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Speaker 1: And I think that's why the conversation has to take

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Speaker 1: place here. So at some point this offseason. Again, not

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Speaker 1: the first way, but it's something down the road that

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Speaker 1: this team should and needs to at least, in my opinion,

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Speaker 1: address here this offseason before they hit training camp and

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Speaker 1: here on this Wednesday edition of Cardinals Cover two MJ.

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Speaker 1: Do you know what day or what the significance of

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Speaker 1: March tenth is with respects to the twenty twenty one

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Speaker 1: NFL Draft fifty days away. On the surface, that sounds

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Speaker 1: like a lot of time, and then on the other hand,

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Speaker 1: it doesn't sound like a lot of time because there

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00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:39,920
Speaker 1: is a lot of work to be done, especially with

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Speaker 1: no scouting combine and the deal with pro days and

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Speaker 1: now you can't always be there. The other note, with

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Speaker 1: respects to that burd game, we know the Cardinals have

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Speaker 1: five draft picks, and they still have five draft picks

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Speaker 1: as the league has announced the compensatory picks for twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty one, and the Cardinals did not get any. I

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Speaker 1: did not see their name on the list of teams

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Speaker 1: to receive a compensatory pick. And you know, it's hard

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Speaker 1: to figure out the formula. It's usually what you sign

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Speaker 1: and then you know how much money they make and

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Speaker 1: what you lose in free agency. But you know, the

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Speaker 1: Cardinals a few years ago they got three compensatory picks. Now, hypothetically,

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Speaker 1: if Patrick Peterson starts on a new team, Hassan Reddick. Um,

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Speaker 1: if they lose a guy that you know is obviously

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Speaker 1: going to get you know, a one or two or

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Speaker 1: a three year deal pretty much a little guaranteed money,

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Speaker 1: they couldn't get a third or fourth next year at

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Speaker 1: this time, Um, and that's means you're losing, you know,

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Speaker 1: in this case, Patrick Peterson, a time pro bowler, and

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Speaker 1: then Hassan Reddick was a former first round pick. So

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Speaker 1: it's not it's not ideal. You know, Usually teams like

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Speaker 1: the Ravens Ozzie Newsom was there, Eric to Costa, they

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Speaker 1: they will wait to sign a free agent like in

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Speaker 1: June that's been waived and it doesn't count against the formula. Again,

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Speaker 1: it's it's my pay grade. But I just know next year,

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Speaker 1: if the Cardinals do lose some players, even if Kenyan Drake,

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Speaker 1: you know, those to me would be the three guys.

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Speaker 1: You know, hopefully they can retain some, but at the

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Speaker 1: same time they will get some compensation. And that's why

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Speaker 1: I think it's important. Craig Debt, you know, when you

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Speaker 1: get to sixteenth overall pick, they're gonna have some options.

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Speaker 1: And it wouldn't surprise me if they try to get

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Speaker 1: an extra pick or two, whether it's a second or

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Speaker 1: third round, because I think when you get to twelve

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Speaker 1: or thirteen, you get the same player at twenty five,

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Speaker 1: depending on the position. Yeah, and as you say, always

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Speaker 1: more bites at the apple, because five, you know, draft

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Speaker 1: picks right now, it doesn't sound like a whole heck

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Speaker 1: of a lot, especially considering all the areas that this

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Speaker 1: team is looking to improve upon. Now we'll see how

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Speaker 1: many of those areas get addressed in free agency. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: the draft right around the corner fifty days from right now,

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Speaker 1: and the Cardinals with five a handful of draft picks

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Speaker 1: as we go in to that twenty twenty one draft.

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Speaker 1: And on that note, we will put a lid on

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Speaker 1: this edition Cardinals Covered two presented by Hyunday, proud partner

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Speaker 1: of the Arizona Cardinals. As always, special thanks to our

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Speaker 1: executive producer Jim Almahndro For Mike Jarecki, I'm preg Riel Lou.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk to you next time you're on Cardinals Cover two.