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Speaker 2: podcast with my buddy, former NFL scout John Middlekoff, who

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Speaker 2: college at the end, let's start with Miami Baltimore. For

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Speaker 2: You know here you go to last weekend, you feel

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know. And I gotta be honest with you.

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Speaker 1: Russell's offensive coordinator has always been fired. They've always been

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Speaker 2: It was like, guys, this is the way the sport works.

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Speaker 2: Dak home and away. I have no idea Pallard looks

426
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Speaker 2: like a three. He's not even a two. Brandon Cooks

427
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Speaker 2: is what he is. You're not gonna build an offense

428
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Speaker 2: around him. I know that the Ceedee Lamb's great and

429
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Speaker 2: Micaeh Parsons is great. John they need to win this

430
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Speaker 2: division because.

431
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Speaker 1: Well they're going they don't they're going to.

432
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Speaker 2: I think they're gonna win this division because that team

433
00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:19,800
Speaker 2: cannot win a playoff road game. When you go into

434
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Speaker 2: the playoffs and you have more questions than answers, you

435
00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:24,240
Speaker 2: can't win multiple playoff games.

436
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Speaker 1: It felt like Jerry got karma from finally giving in

437
00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:29,040
Speaker 1: to Jimmy Johnson putting them in the ring of honor.

438
00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:31,240
Speaker 1: He wins that game, and then the Eagles blow it

439
00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:35,239
Speaker 1: today and it kind of all turned out. Cowboys last night,

440
00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:37,000
Speaker 1: I thought Aikman hit it on the head. They're at

441
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Speaker 1: the fifty yard line with a minute left and he

442
00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:42,040
Speaker 1: said the game should be over. What to me, there's

443
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Speaker 1: like Dan Campbell at the end of the game being aggressive.

444
00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:46,600
Speaker 1: I thought I should have kicked the extra point of

445
00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:49,080
Speaker 1: say seven yard line, like a seven yard lines kick.

446
00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:52,280
Speaker 1: But to me, for Mike McCarthy, not just call multiple runs,

447
00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:54,399
Speaker 1: like what are we doing here? They're gonna have a

448
00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:56,280
Speaker 1: little less than a minute, They're gonna have no timeouts

449
00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:59,119
Speaker 1: to go to the field. Your kicker's good. What are

450
00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:02,560
Speaker 1: we trying to prove? And it's just always that with him,

451
00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:05,639
Speaker 1: that would just terrified you because he's clearly pretty good. Right,

452
00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:07,560
Speaker 1: they're gonna win twelve games for like a thirstraight year

453
00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:10,880
Speaker 1: in a row. Dak's playing pretty well, but he terrified

454
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Speaker 1: that that was an excuse. I can't even imagine Jerry,

455
00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:19,359
Speaker 1: Jimmy Johnson, people watch what this is crazy? Now at

456
00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:21,520
Speaker 1: the end of the game, you know, everyone bitch and

457
00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:25,119
Speaker 1: moment about the officials. The official clearly screwed up and

458
00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:29,159
Speaker 1: called the wrong guy. But when they don't announce sixty eight,

459
00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:31,520
Speaker 1: Dallas didn't cover him for a reason, Why would they

460
00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:35,119
Speaker 1: cover a tackle? You know they didn't know, so that play,

461
00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:38,080
Speaker 1: it's hard to just assume that that play's working if

462
00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:41,880
Speaker 1: they announced sixty eight is the eligible guy? Right, So

463
00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:44,560
Speaker 1: the ref screwed up. But they never should have been

464
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Speaker 1: in that position in the first place because they shouldn't

465
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Speaker 1: have had the time. Dak's throwing the ball seven hundred

466
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Speaker 1: yards out of bounds. That's crazy, and to me, it's

467
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Speaker 1: on McCarthy for even allowing a pass play. It's also

468
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Speaker 1: on Dak. You're talking about basically a ten year vet

469
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Speaker 1: who makes a ton of money, Like you gotta have

470
00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:02,399
Speaker 1: hit the You're better off just taking a sack and

471
00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:03,520
Speaker 1: just keeping the clock moving.

472
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that really jumped out to me. Is that? By

473
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Speaker 2: the way, though, I do know what I get with

474
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Speaker 2: Detroit more than Dallas. I thought Dan Campbell not kicking

475
00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:16,680
Speaker 2: the pat was he was reckless.

476
00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:19,880
Speaker 1: He was reckless on the from even the four yard line.

477
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Speaker 1: I don't like that.

478
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Speaker 2: So I think what you look at Detroit and Dallas

479
00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:26,879
Speaker 2: is there are things I like about both, but the

480
00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:30,720
Speaker 2: coaches are factors here. They really are factors. I mean,

481
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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, but what Sean McVay is doing and what

482
00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:38,080
Speaker 2: Kyle Shanahan has done. Uh, I you know, I watched

483
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Speaker 2: the Rams again and I we'll talk about this later,

484
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Speaker 2: but when I look at Dallas and I think I

485
00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:48,120
Speaker 2: said this with you a couple of weeks ago, Mike

486
00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:53,199
Speaker 2: McCarthy gets fired and he concocts this story that he

487
00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:58,000
Speaker 2: was down in his basement doing analytics the Cowboys. Well,

488
00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:00,000
Speaker 2: first he said he watched every game of the year

489
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:03,399
Speaker 2: in his basement. Bullshit. Then he later said he watched

490
00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:06,240
Speaker 2: every play from the Cowboys, later acknowledged it was bs.

491
00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:08,920
Speaker 2: Then when Kellen Moore left, he said, I want to

492
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Speaker 2: run the football and be more physical and less DAK reliant.

493
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Speaker 2: All three are nonsense. This is the same team. They

494
00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:19,440
Speaker 2: are totally DAK reliant, and they're DAK and C d

495
00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:22,879
Speaker 2: Lamb reliant. So you know, it's like when you have

496
00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:27,040
Speaker 2: an ace on a pitching staff, it just makes everybody's

497
00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:30,240
Speaker 2: job easier because the bullpen gets rest. So the two

498
00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:33,560
Speaker 2: and the three pitchers generally have a fresher bullpen. When

499
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Speaker 2: Zeke was in his prime, you know, Tony Pollard gets

500
00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:40,720
Speaker 2: nine touches pops on two and nobody's paying attention to him.

501
00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:44,199
Speaker 2: Now that Tony Pollard's the guy like I had said this.

502
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Speaker 2: I think we talked about this at the trade deadline.

503
00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:49,359
Speaker 2: I said, listen, you don't want to pay a fortune

504
00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:51,600
Speaker 2: for a running back, but if I could gobble up

505
00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:55,040
Speaker 2: the rest of Derrick Henry's contract. Tennessee's ready to move

506
00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:59,400
Speaker 2: off him because what they miss is what you watched.

507
00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:03,240
Speaker 2: That deck wouldn't be throwing if you had Dereck Henry

508
00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:07,760
Speaker 2: to eat the clock. I think Dallas either blows you out,

509
00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:10,879
Speaker 2: not gonna happen the playoffs. They have a problem, and

510
00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:13,480
Speaker 2: I thought the field goal kicker eliminated it. Even if

511
00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:17,520
Speaker 2: they lead late, they have no run game consistently. That's

512
00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:18,400
Speaker 2: a problem.

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Speaker 1: I always believe this and coaching. I think it's like

514
00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:24,160
Speaker 1: in life, like the older you get philosophically the way

515
00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:26,800
Speaker 1: you think, like that's who you are. Mike McCarthy can

516
00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:28,800
Speaker 1: say whatever he wants and a lot of coaches do this.

517
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Speaker 1: You look back to his time in Green Bay. They

518
00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:34,480
Speaker 1: were a pass heavy team. Yes, why they let down

519
00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:37,240
Speaker 1: a lot in the playoffs. Now they had Aaron Rodgers,

520
00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:40,040
Speaker 1: but they relied so much on throwing the ball. He

521
00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:42,520
Speaker 1: never had a great run game there because deep down

522
00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:45,000
Speaker 1: he wants to call pass place as a lot of

523
00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:47,960
Speaker 1: coaches do. And what happened to Andy Reid last year

524
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:50,720
Speaker 1: he leaned on Pachaco won him another super Bowl because

525
00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:52,560
Speaker 1: he that's been a knock on him for a long time.

526
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Speaker 1: Pass happy, he wants to call pass places. Oh that's

527
00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:58,600
Speaker 1: a lot. Kyle Shanahan wants to call run plays. Philosophically,

528
00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:00,880
Speaker 1: as a play caller, you want to do specific things.

529
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:03,800
Speaker 1: Ben Johnson clearly likes you know, he's got a little

530
00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:06,520
Speaker 1: like uh. Kellen Moore wants to have some fun do stuff.

531
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Speaker 1: But sometimes that can cost you, because we see Belichick

532
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:12,000
Speaker 1: over the years and Josh McDaniels. You gotta be very

533
00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:14,280
Speaker 1: very buttoned up when you do that stuff, when you

534
00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:16,040
Speaker 1: try to get tricky. What did they do? They sent

535
00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:19,200
Speaker 1: three guys out to try to throw off Dallas. Well

536
00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:22,720
Speaker 1: it ended up confusing the referee, But that's what happened.

537
00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:25,199
Speaker 1: They were trying to confuse Dallas instead of just sending

538
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Speaker 1: sixty eight. Well, they didn't want to do that because

539
00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:29,800
Speaker 1: everyone would have pointed right at him and it wouldn't

540
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:32,480
Speaker 1: the trickeration wouldn't have been as obvious. So sometimes you

541
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:36,280
Speaker 1: can outthink yourself. And like Dan Campbell, both Dallas, Philly

542
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:40,760
Speaker 1: and Detroit to me are no lock to win in

543
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:43,159
Speaker 1: the first round because they just cannot be trusted in

544
00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:46,920
Speaker 1: big spots coaching. Mike's i mean, does have a resume

545
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:49,159
Speaker 1: of winning playoff games over the course of you know,

546
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:51,520
Speaker 1: a decade plus. But when you look at Dan Campbell,

547
00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:53,439
Speaker 1: he's it's gonna be the biggest game he's ever coached in.

548
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:56,120
Speaker 1: And Sirianni, let's face it. I mean, you talk about

549
00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:58,080
Speaker 1: a team leaking oil right now? Holy shit.

550
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,800
Speaker 2: So let's tye. I have it written down. So if

551
00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:06,040
Speaker 2: you did not watch the Eagles in Arizona, I'm gonna

552
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:09,880
Speaker 2: throw some numbers out for people. Arizona had the football

553
00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:13,800
Speaker 2: for thirty nine and a half minutes, thirty two first downs,

554
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:17,919
Speaker 2: six point two yards of play. Kyler Murray and you know,

555
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,160
Speaker 2: I love Kyler. I know he plays too many video games.

556
00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:21,240
Speaker 2: I freaking love that guy.

557
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:22,439
Speaker 1: You have three.

558
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:26,119
Speaker 2: Oh my god, he is It's like Chris Paul in

559
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:29,040
Speaker 2: his prime. It's like it's just it looks easy. It's

560
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:33,280
Speaker 2: just he is. So you know, I'm watching that game.

561
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:34,880
Speaker 2: So that was one of my favorite bets of the week.

562
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:36,960
Speaker 2: Like twelve and a half, I'm like, I'm sorry Arizona

563
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:39,680
Speaker 2: and by this game was funny because you saw Arizona

564
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:43,200
Speaker 2: control late, Arizona controlled early. They just had that they

565
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:46,400
Speaker 2: had that touched. Eagles got that ninety five yard pick six.

566
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:49,760
Speaker 2: So otherwise, but Arizona was I thought was in control.

567
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:53,120
Speaker 2: This game didn't feel as close. And I look at

568
00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:57,240
Speaker 2: Nick Siriani and my takeaway was they struggled early. Then

569
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Speaker 2: he let Shane Stiken call the plays. They were great

570
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:04,640
Speaker 2: Shane Stike and leaves they struggle. Is that Sirianni maybe

571
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:07,720
Speaker 2: one of those head coaches. Now we know Mike Tomlin

572
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:10,239
Speaker 2: isn't this, and we know Pete Carroll isn't this, and

573
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:14,040
Speaker 2: we know Andy Reid isn't this or McVeigh. But there

574
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:20,200
Speaker 2: have been head coaches that need a great coordinator or

575
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:23,800
Speaker 2: a great play caller. And you know when dan Quinn

576
00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:28,560
Speaker 2: lost Kyle Shanahan, preimposed not the same coach. And I

577
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 2: look at Nick Siriani and your point, they're leaking oil.

578
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:34,680
Speaker 2: Some of these are personnel issues on the defensive side.

579
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Speaker 2: But I think I'm more bothered by the inconsistency of

580
00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:42,200
Speaker 2: the offense. I don't know, have they had four good

581
00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:44,600
Speaker 2: quarters of offensive football this year? I don't think they have.

582
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Speaker 1: I think relative to the contract and the hype coming in,

583
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:51,360
Speaker 1: Jalen's had a bad season. Now some of its injuries,

584
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:53,760
Speaker 1: but they have not looked good and it's not lack

585
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:56,080
Speaker 1: of talent. I mean they got guys everywhere. I always

586
00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:59,239
Speaker 1: struggle with CEO head coaches, especially younger guys, like what

587
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 1: are you hanging your hand on? Like the one thing

588
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:04,600
Speaker 1: with Jim or John Harball CEO head coach. He's a

589
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:06,800
Speaker 1: tough guy. So his teams are gonna be tough when

590
00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:09,240
Speaker 1: you get him the right coordinators, they're gonna be really

591
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:11,000
Speaker 1: tough to deal with. Right now, he has a great

592
00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:14,360
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator, great defensive coordinator. The Ravens are kicking everyone's ass.

593
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Speaker 1: What's Sirianni hanging his hat on like motivation? Like is

594
00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:19,760
Speaker 1: that what he's doing? He knows nothing about defense, And

595
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:22,280
Speaker 1: like you said, so he's an offensive guy, wide receiver coach,

596
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:25,600
Speaker 1: coach that side of the ball. Well, he's clearly not

597
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:29,959
Speaker 1: influencing anything. I'm telling you. That place is a pressure cooker.

598
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:34,240
Speaker 1: This thing is an all time unraveling. Now they're gonna

599
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:36,360
Speaker 1: play a road playoff game. Now they're gonna be the

600
00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:39,680
Speaker 1: five seeds, So they'll play Tampa or New Orleans. They

601
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Speaker 1: if they lose that game, though, I mean, are you

602
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:45,040
Speaker 1: just they have a lot invested into a lot of people.

603
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:47,480
Speaker 1: This is an organization that has no problem spending a

604
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:50,120
Speaker 1: lot on assistant coaches. Yeah, and never forget they lost

605
00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:53,880
Speaker 1: to Gannon today. They went after the Cardinals Forgannon because

606
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:56,160
Speaker 1: he got hired late. They wanted to hire Vic Fangio,

607
00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:58,320
Speaker 1: but Vick's like, I can't wait around what's going on,

608
00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:01,280
Speaker 1: So he takes the Miami job losing the Gannon today.

609
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 1: Of just all the people to lose with, because of

610
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:07,480
Speaker 1: all the bad teams, the Cardinals are easily the hardest

611
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:09,240
Speaker 1: to play because of that little guy. I mean he is.

612
00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:11,320
Speaker 1: He's on a different level of the Giants and all

613
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:15,360
Speaker 1: these shitty the Washington team. But to lose the Gannon

614
00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:19,600
Speaker 1: at home, given what's on the line, that's I think

615
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:22,320
Speaker 1: they're gonna be like Sirianni in any trouble. If they

616
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:24,560
Speaker 1: were to lose in the first round of the playoff game.

617
00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:26,680
Speaker 1: And this was a team that gave their quarterback all

618
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 1: this money, and let's face it had hopes of being

619
00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:32,120
Speaker 1: at worse being in the NFC Championship Game and being

620
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 1: on the Customs Super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: Again, look at they lose their defensive coordinator, where their

622
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:39,280
Speaker 2: pass rush go, they lose their offensive coordinator. Their giveaways

623
00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:42,440
Speaker 2: of exploded like clearly they're not as buttoned up. And

624
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:44,360
Speaker 2: by the way, Nick and I think it hurts Nick

625
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:49,880
Speaker 2: can come off as a little juvenile. Yeah, on the sidelines.

626
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 1: I also think you got to be in the great

627
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:55,080
Speaker 1: coaches in the history of the league, right Walsh Belichick,

628
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:59,200
Speaker 1: and he's good at this, being very careful with older

629
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:03,440
Speaker 1: players and doubling down. Like last year, James Bradbury, they

630
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:05,760
Speaker 1: probably should have just moved on, but they were so

631
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:08,480
Speaker 1: close they brought everyone back on defense. And now it's

632
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:11,560
Speaker 1: a disaster, right, and they're paying Bradbury and Slay at

633
00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:14,280
Speaker 1: Slay's hurt. Bradbury's not any good. So you have some

634
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:16,520
Speaker 1: older players making a lot of money. You have to

635
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 1: play them, but they're simply not good enough. And you

636
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:22,560
Speaker 1: watch today their defense is just soft. I mean, beside

637
00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:25,960
Speaker 1: the defensive lineman, their back seven is awful. I mean,

638
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:28,800
Speaker 1: Kyler and James Connor made them look like a four

639
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Speaker 1: or five win team. And let's face it, their point

640
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:34,000
Speaker 1: differential I looked before we hopped on. Yeah, not good

641
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Speaker 1: is basically right around. Like teams like Tampa, Houston, Indy.

642
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:40,080
Speaker 1: The Saints for example, have double I mean, they're a

643
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Speaker 1: team that's gonna win eleven twelve games, their point differentials

644
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Speaker 1: twenty two. They're a pretty average team with a record

645
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Speaker 1: that probably is a little different than the actual team

646
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Speaker 1: we've watched through the four months of the year.

647
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and we knew it. I mean I said before

648
00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 2: the year, I said they're gonna lose significantly more games.

649
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:03,440
Speaker 2: They're playing much better quarterbacks on their slate. They lose

650
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:06,720
Speaker 2: two great coordinators. Some of this was predictable. But one

651
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:09,680
Speaker 2: of the things I've always appreciated about Philadelphia and I

652
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:12,400
Speaker 2: just love the Northeast and how much they love football.

653
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 2: I just love Baltimore, and I love Buffalo, and I

654
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:21,600
Speaker 2: love all these teams that just care. Philadelphia won a

655
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Speaker 2: Super Bowl. Nick Foles hit the road, Doug Peterson hit

656
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:27,600
Speaker 2: the road. Carson Wentz, MVP hit the road. He was

657
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:31,320
Speaker 2: having a great year this franchise, and this is very rare.

658
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:35,440
Speaker 2: They're the opposite, same state, opposite mindset of the Steelers.

659
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:38,360
Speaker 2: They're not loyal to anything, and I think it's because

660
00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:42,480
Speaker 2: the Rooneys are Pennsylvania. Jeffrey Lorie's got Hollywood ties. He's

661
00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:45,480
Speaker 2: more global. His thing is man, this is big business,

662
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:49,320
Speaker 2: and I don't think Sirianni would get fired, but I

663
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:53,280
Speaker 2: think they would they give him one more chance. You know,

664
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Speaker 2: on coordinators, and I know people say, boy, that's a

665
00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 2: dubious way to do business, but say this about the Steelers.

666
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:02,360
Speaker 2: They're going to be loyal to Picket to the end.

667
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 2: Mason Rudolph comes in and figures out, you know, I'm

668
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:08,480
Speaker 2: gonna throw the ball to Pickens every time I can Pickett.

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Speaker 2: You know, Kenny Pickett would go half without targeting him.

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Speaker 2: Rudolph's like on the sidelines for the last three months going.

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Speaker 1: He's the J T. J.

672
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Speaker 2: Watt and Pickens, our two best athletes. Throw it to

673
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Speaker 2: him every time you can, and it's like, oh, it's

674
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:25,920
Speaker 2: not that complicated. So I don't know if he's in trouble.

675
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Speaker 2: But you know, Jalen Hurts is one of those all

676
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Speaker 2: supporting because I think he has a Dak quality and

677
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:35,920
Speaker 2: I like this quality. I don't think he either throws

678
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:38,800
Speaker 2: the ball like Matt Stafford or Mahomes are out no, no,

679
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Speaker 2: and there. But there is something to be said about

680
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:45,520
Speaker 2: intangibles and leadership and a grown up and an adult,

681
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Speaker 2: and Jalen does in a raucous environment, to your point,

682
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:54,240
Speaker 2: a highly pressurized environment. He's kind of a centered kid.

683
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:59,240
Speaker 2: And I do think Philadelphia eight Carson Wentz Alive eats

684
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Speaker 2: coaches a lot. I've Chip Kelly. I do think Jalen.

685
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:06,799
Speaker 2: I don't think he's an A plus talent, but I

686
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:08,959
Speaker 2: do think he's a very centered guy. And I think

687
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Speaker 2: Dak is and there is value in these pressurized Cowboy

688
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Speaker 2: Eagle markets.

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Speaker 1: I think Jalen, in a weird way, is the least

690
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Speaker 1: of their worries because of that. But where it does

691
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Speaker 1: impact you is once that cap hit starts kicking in.

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Speaker 1: I need you know, once your cap hit right now,

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Speaker 1: the first year of the contracts lower as you go.

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Speaker 1: You know, Dak's played better, right, Kirk Cousins got better

695
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Speaker 1: as he got more. You're gonna need Jalen like I

696
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 1: need you to be a pro bowler every year, because

697
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:37,200
Speaker 1: we're gonna have to skim at some other positions. But

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Speaker 1: to me, the downfall of the Eagles this year, especially

699
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:41,680
Speaker 1: down their defense, is falling off a cliff. I mean,

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Speaker 1: they feel like one of the worst defenses in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: I think they have a very I think they're in

702
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:50,080
Speaker 1: major trouble come the playoffs. I mean they have no momentum.

703
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Speaker 1: There's just a lot of negativity. You know how that

704
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Speaker 1: city gets. Everyone's gonna start coach and just all the

705
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:59,040
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Speaker 1: So I can give you the motivation, I can give

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Speaker 1: you the scheme. If I can't cover a guy one

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Speaker 1: on one and they cannot, I mean Kyler and James Connor,

710
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Speaker 2: All right, let's talk. They're not a good team. But

733
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Speaker 2: I wrote this down as one of the topics today

734
00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:40,400
Speaker 2: Chicago Atlanta. So the Bears are beating bad teams, but

735
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 2: Justin Fields is playing better. So Chicago's not a well

736
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:49,240
Speaker 2: run organization. One of the old the oldest and poorest

737
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:52,120
Speaker 2: ownership near it in the league. They want to move

738
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:56,320
Speaker 2: stadiums again. The former Big Ten presidents now their president.

739
00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 2: You know, I've heard things that I don't love. I

740
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:06,200
Speaker 2: don't Ryan Poles, It's unproven. Matt Eberflu's defensive coach. I

741
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:11,880
Speaker 2: talked to somebody last week who had interviewed him a

742
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:15,440
Speaker 2: couple of years ago. And just said nice guy, good coordinator.

743
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:17,360
Speaker 2: Doesn't feel like a head coach to me. This was

744
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:20,360
Speaker 2: an executive in the league. So but the story is

745
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:26,160
Speaker 2: Justin Fields. So Caleb Williams projects again projects he was

746
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:31,360
Speaker 2: a better college quarterback in terms of a dynamic. I mean,

747
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:33,560
Speaker 2: usc better better throw the ball for sure.

748
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:34,239
Speaker 1: Yeah.

749
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Speaker 2: And the US's number one of the nation last two

750
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:39,560
Speaker 2: years and has not had Ohio State's kind of personnel

751
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:42,600
Speaker 2: like Justin Fields did. So he throws the ball better

752
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:45,000
Speaker 2: and he's considered a better prospect, and you get to reach.

753
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 2: So there's two things that and you get to restart

754
00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:51,080
Speaker 2: the rookie quarterback clock, which is a thing, but I

755
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 2: do this is an organization. The weaker the organization and leadership,

756
00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:59,960
Speaker 2: the New York Mets, the New York Jets. They get

757
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:03,120
Speaker 2: pushed around by the wind and the volume of media

758
00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:07,000
Speaker 2: and the volume in that Chicago sports talk. That's one

759
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:10,439
Speaker 2: of the cities in the country, Philadelphia, Boston, Chicago sports Talk.

760
00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:14,680
Speaker 2: I mean, it's everybody listens to it. And I can

761
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:18,800
Speaker 2: very much see them just saying, Nope, we're going to

762
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:21,839
Speaker 2: trade down, get a zillion picks and let Washington at

763
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 2: two and New England at three both want quarterbacks come

764
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 2: up my guest today, it's not what I would do.

765
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:29,520
Speaker 2: I think he's never had more value. I think you

766
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:31,920
Speaker 2: can get a number one form in Atlanta. I really

767
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:34,560
Speaker 2: do the way he's playing now. Most people disagree with me,

768
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 2: but his value is an all time high. Got to

769
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:39,120
Speaker 2: start paying him here pretty quick. It's going to change.

770
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 2: But my hunch is weak management goes where the wind blows,

771
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 2: and the wind is blown in Justin Field's direction.

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Speaker 1: Your thoughts, Yeah, when I saw yesterday, I think Ian

773
00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:53,319
Speaker 1: Rappaport put out that eber flu is going to come

774
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:56,400
Speaker 1: back potentially. You know, this is one of the biggest

775
00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:58,759
Speaker 1: off seasons in the history of the franchise. But who

776
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:01,759
Speaker 1: would want him back? Kevin Warren the president who wants

777
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:04,560
Speaker 1: to run everything. Right, Presidents, even if I'm paying you

778
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:07,239
Speaker 1: five million dollars to run my NFL team, you're not

779
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:10,080
Speaker 1: doing anything in football, So no one cares how many seats.

780
00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:12,960
Speaker 1: If you sell the the naming rights of the building,

781
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:15,440
Speaker 1: you get credit for running football. Well, those guys answer

782
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:17,799
Speaker 1: to him, right. If they fire him and then they

783
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:19,960
Speaker 1: go sniffing around other coaches, they're not gonna want to

784
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 1: have anything to do with that guy. So I think,

785
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:24,319
Speaker 1: to me, it all starts at the top. You got

786
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:26,959
Speaker 1: to blow out the organization, bring in someone who knows

787
00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:30,560
Speaker 1: Jim Harball, a real coach, who then can make this decision.

788
00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:34,600
Speaker 1: Because I'm with you, I think not trading justin fields

789
00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:37,439
Speaker 1: and going with Caleb Williams's insanity. I think, I think

790
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:41,960
Speaker 1: you have to do it. But I'm not confident that

791
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:44,760
Speaker 1: really anything's going to change in Chicago. I could definitely

792
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:47,279
Speaker 1: see them running it back and then everything would be

793
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:49,919
Speaker 1: on the table. I still believe that Ryan Poles, though,

794
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:52,560
Speaker 1: who was spent a lot of time in Kansas City

795
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:56,319
Speaker 1: worked for Andy Reid, obviously saw what Mahomes did would

796
00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:59,040
Speaker 1: be insane. To not throw his body up against like

797
00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:01,560
Speaker 1: worry they're doing this. I quit one of those type

798
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:03,960
Speaker 1: moves because that's what happened in the history of sports. Right.

799
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:06,120
Speaker 1: You either make this trade or just fire me now

800
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:07,640
Speaker 1: because I'm not standing for this.

801
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:11,480
Speaker 2: So fans listening to this may find this hard to believe,

802
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 2: but it happens. If you're Washington and you're New England.

803
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:20,400
Speaker 2: You start leaking stuff when the season ends about flaws

804
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:26,000
Speaker 2: with Caleb Williams game. Yeah, real concerns about maturity, So

805
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:31,440
Speaker 2: reporters start reporting Caleb Williams dad's an issue. Maturity's an issue?

806
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:35,560
Speaker 2: Why because Chicago sports talk radio and calumnists pick up

807
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:38,520
Speaker 2: on that in the slow season and they talk about

808
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 2: it all day, all day, and it creates this avalanche

809
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:46,520
Speaker 2: because you know, Washington is praying Chicago ray. Chicago doesn't

810
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:49,960
Speaker 2: take Caleb Williams, so is Belichick. All these teams are

811
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:53,760
Speaker 2: so watch the the And I know the Caleb Williams

812
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:56,840
Speaker 2: situation better than I think most national guys. I know

813
00:41:56,960 --> 00:42:00,319
Speaker 2: his dad briefly. I know Caleb and people around He's

814
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 2: a good kid. He's emotional, he can be moody. Okay,

815
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 2: this guy, he's the first nil superstar in college sports, right,

816
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:11,160
Speaker 2: but good kid, five tool player like Barry Bonds and

817
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:15,440
Speaker 2: baseball can do everything, run, hit, power, glove. But watch

818
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:19,399
Speaker 2: watch the teams that want them. Because everybody knows the Bear.

819
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 2: People around the league don't respect the Bears from office.

820
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:25,200
Speaker 2: It's a winds blowing and you're going to start hearing

821
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:29,040
Speaker 2: all this. Kayla Williams is trouble, bad locker room guy,

822
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:31,680
Speaker 2: and Chicago media will seize that.

823
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Speaker 1: You know who those leaks usually impact. Most people think

824
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:37,160
Speaker 1: it has a huge impact internally, Like the gms have

825
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:39,879
Speaker 1: all the information. Well, these guys their scout, they've been through,

826
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:43,640
Speaker 1: the coaches learn this stuffs it impacts the owners. The

827
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:46,040
Speaker 1: owners are the ones driving around their car listening to it,

828
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:48,640
Speaker 1: and they get freaked out and then they start asking questions.

829
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:51,960
Speaker 1: That's the un kind of told story I think in

830
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:54,960
Speaker 1: football is the information getting to the owners and the

831
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:57,800
Speaker 1: owners freaking out about stuff. So I'm one hundred percent

832
00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:01,120
Speaker 1: with you, but I still believe as we say here

833
00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:03,360
Speaker 1: today December thirty. First, i'd be stunt if Kayleb Williams

834
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:05,919
Speaker 1: isn't a bar in six months.

835
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Speaker 2: I would make the move. I would get a first

836
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:12,880
Speaker 2: or a second from Atlanta, and I would And then

837
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:16,360
Speaker 2: you know, it's not like if they keep justin fields

838
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:18,839
Speaker 2: and move down. It's not that there's not value. They

839
00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:22,879
Speaker 2: could get two firsts, two second I mean they yeah,

840
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:26,680
Speaker 2: they get all they get an absolute haul. All right,

841
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 2: So we've got a lot to talk about, and I

842
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:32,640
Speaker 2: do want to talk about some college stuff because Michigan Bama,

843
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:37,400
Speaker 2: Washington Texas played tomorrow. I first want to broach this.

844
00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:40,200
Speaker 2: So don Yee, there's a story that was leaked to

845
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:43,920
Speaker 2: Adam Schefter that Jim Harbaugh has signed with Don Yee.

846
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:48,319
Speaker 2: So it's that's not really a big story. Everybody knows

847
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:51,000
Speaker 2: Don Yee is close to the Chargers and Harball. That's

848
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:54,000
Speaker 2: not the story. But it got leaked, and Harball wanted

849
00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:56,839
Speaker 2: it leaked. So the question becomes, I have been told

850
00:43:56,880 --> 00:44:00,759
Speaker 2: by two sources, one in the building, one out. Chargers

851
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:04,239
Speaker 2: absolutely do not like the image in Los Angeles that

852
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:06,880
Speaker 2: they're cheap, so they're you know, they're saying, hey, we're

853
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:08,960
Speaker 2: building a new facility. Now to that, I would say,

854
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:11,480
Speaker 2: you have to You can't be an LA team with

855
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:14,000
Speaker 2: an Orange County facility and force your players to drive

856
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:16,440
Speaker 2: an hour and a half in traffic. But be that

857
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:18,719
Speaker 2: as it may. They're building it Nelsugundo, which is by

858
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:20,640
Speaker 2: so FI, and it's going to be a beautiful facility.

859
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:24,040
Speaker 2: They've also argued they spent on Bosa, Herbert Lindsley, the Center.

860
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:27,000
Speaker 2: They're not cheap. That said, they have a smaller staff

861
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:30,040
Speaker 2: than the Rams, the Eagles, the Niners. Be that as

862
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:32,799
Speaker 2: it may. I have been told they are going to

863
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:38,360
Speaker 2: aggressively pursue Jim Harbaugh. Belichick's viewed is more controlling, older,

864
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:41,040
Speaker 2: not great energy, sort of a downer in the building.

865
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:45,160
Speaker 2: Harbaugh is relentless, but there's optimism and energy and fun

866
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:48,000
Speaker 2: and he's going to have more control and the Spanelistys

867
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:51,640
Speaker 2: are willing to relinquish some of that. It got leaked though,

868
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:55,000
Speaker 2: So as the Chargers lose to Denver today, why did

869
00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:56,839
Speaker 2: it get leak? What's your interpretation of that?

870
00:44:57,080 --> 00:44:59,160
Speaker 1: Well, to me, he's coming back to the NFL, and

871
00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:01,320
Speaker 1: I think the only quest is will the charge. He

872
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:04,160
Speaker 1: has one hundred plus million dollar contract waiting for him

873
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:07,040
Speaker 1: me in Michigan, right, they have no problem paying him.

874
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:09,640
Speaker 1: I think the wild card is the Raiders. I mean,

875
00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:12,160
Speaker 1: this is a guy whose career started as a coach

876
00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:16,879
Speaker 1: with Al Davis. History of football means a lot to him. Now,

877
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:20,319
Speaker 1: you could say Mark Davis, Antonio Pierce, Listen. He's taken

878
00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:22,920
Speaker 1: some big swings and it's backfired. The difference is Jim

879
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:25,600
Speaker 1: Harbaugh is a guarantee to work. It's a guarantee. He's

880
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:28,120
Speaker 1: four for four at a high level. Four for four now,

881
00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:29,880
Speaker 1: like you know, it kind of worked. No, it's worked

882
00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:33,080
Speaker 1: in spades everywhere. So I think the Raiders the brand.

883
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:36,799
Speaker 1: I think you know, Mark has no Mark doesn't care

884
00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:39,000
Speaker 1: like he wants to hire you. He did it with Gruden,

885
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 1: he did it with JOSHN. Ziegler. He doesn't want to

886
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:43,759
Speaker 1: do any of this. See John Spano's like he's like

887
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 1: essentially the GM slash owner, right, he plays a big role.

888
00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:49,640
Speaker 1: Like those guys, what are they gonna do? It's in

889
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:54,239
Speaker 1: Harbaugh's very uncomfortable Mark Davis. The Davis family's used to uncomfortable.

890
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:56,880
Speaker 1: His dad's was a crazy man. John Gruden's a crazy

891
00:45:56,880 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 1: man like they They embraced that. So I think the

892
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:02,319
Speaker 1: Raiders are a major, major curveball. Don Yee, what are

893
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:04,799
Speaker 1: the connections? Well, who just went there? Jimmy Garoppolo. Who

894
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:08,560
Speaker 1: represents him, Don Yee? Tom Brady, you know he bought

895
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:10,319
Speaker 1: a team, part of the team. Then they claimed it

896
00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:12,960
Speaker 1: wasn't enough money. But that's not dead yet. Donnie's got

897
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:15,680
Speaker 1: connections to Vegas written all over, no state income tax.

898
00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:18,160
Speaker 1: You know, Harbaugh spent a lot of time on the

899
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:20,520
Speaker 1: West Coast. I do not think it's a lock like

900
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:23,440
Speaker 1: I think the Chargers could be bitting against Mark Davis.

901
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:26,239
Speaker 1: They have a prior relationship. They've met before when the

902
00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:30,080
Speaker 1: forty nine ers met him. You know, Antonio Pierce fun story.

903
00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:33,360
Speaker 1: I think it's a pretty big stretch. Now. I do

904
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:34,719
Speaker 1: think he was a leader in the clubhouse if he

905
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:36,400
Speaker 1: kept winn against he goat bet by the Colts today,

906
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:40,160
Speaker 1: like their offense is terrible. I mean, Jim Harbaugh immediately

907
00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:42,839
Speaker 1: fixed you. The Raiders are a lot like the Chargers. Now.

908
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:44,960
Speaker 1: They are a bigger deal in Vegas because they don't

909
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:46,880
Speaker 1: have to compete with anybody, but they are very very

910
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:50,480
Speaker 1: irrelevant in a city that like does not do a relevancy.

911
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:53,400
Speaker 1: So I think that the that the Raiders are a

912
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:56,879
Speaker 1: team to keep an eye on, now, you know, I mean,

913
00:46:56,960 --> 00:46:59,040
Speaker 1: do you think Harbaugh's I feel like he's one hundred

914
00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:01,759
Speaker 1: percent gone. He wins national championship, He's for sure gone.

915
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:04,279
Speaker 1: We'll get into I kind of like Washington win it all.

916
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:06,560
Speaker 1: But regardless, I mean, he almost left a couple of

917
00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:08,919
Speaker 1: years ago, so I think he's ready, especially with everything

918
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:10,160
Speaker 1: that's happening with the NCAA.

919
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:14,280
Speaker 2: So let's pick this can be the same topic, Michigan Bama.

920
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:18,560
Speaker 2: So I Michigan Bama. Is this It's the most consistent

921
00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:22,520
Speaker 2: team in the country, Michigan against the surging team Alabama.

922
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:26,759
Speaker 2: So I've seen Jaln Milroe be awful a couple times

923
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:27,360
Speaker 2: this year.

924
00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:29,640
Speaker 1: He got bench to season.

925
00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:32,879
Speaker 2: I mean, he was bad against Auburn, and Auburn thinks so.

926
00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:37,399
Speaker 2: But they're a surging team and Harbaugh has not been

927
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:40,759
Speaker 2: great in bulls. There's a lot of different reasons and

928
00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:44,640
Speaker 2: beliefs on that. But I like Michigan because I know

929
00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:47,120
Speaker 2: what I get my issue with Michigan. If they had

930
00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:49,480
Speaker 2: one over the top star receiver, if you put Marvin

931
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:53,160
Speaker 2: Harrison on that team, I think they'd really hand it

932
00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:56,440
Speaker 2: to Alabama. But they don't, and so they sort of

933
00:47:56,520 --> 00:47:59,560
Speaker 2: suffocate you and pin you down. Does it affect the

934
00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:01,319
Speaker 2: way you think think at all that the SEC has

935
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:03,880
Speaker 2: been great in bowls and the Big Tens looked awful.

936
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:06,600
Speaker 2: Does that influence your thoughts on Michigan Bama.

937
00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:09,360
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, simply Saban versus Harbaugh. Like you said, Harball

938
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:12,440
Speaker 1: has been safe to say a flop. I mean in

939
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:14,600
Speaker 1: some of these big, big games. Obviously the Super Bowl

940
00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:17,200
Speaker 1: until the lights went out was a disaster. The last

941
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:20,120
Speaker 1: two Bowl games, I mean, Georgia manhandled them. Now you

942
00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:22,040
Speaker 1: can say that's one of the great college rosters of

943
00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:25,279
Speaker 1: all time. What about last year? What the hell was that? So?

944
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:27,799
Speaker 1: To me, the Saban thing. I could not put any

945
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:30,000
Speaker 1: money on Michigan. Now I think they are gonna win.

946
00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:32,400
Speaker 1: They have all my scouting buddies, have eighteen guys that

947
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:35,640
Speaker 1: are gonna get drafted. Teams loaded more complete than Alabama.

948
00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:40,000
Speaker 1: But Nick Sabans used to this. Nick Saban's the opposite right,

949
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:43,680
Speaker 1: won all these playoff games. So I would be very

950
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:46,480
Speaker 1: very nervous if I was. I think if he, I

951
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:48,520
Speaker 1: think there is a ton of pressure on Jim Harbaugh.

952
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:51,560
Speaker 1: You can't win with this team with all these guys

953
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:54,080
Speaker 1: against a flawed Bama team. I had buddies that do

954
00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:57,040
Speaker 1: the sec that were like at the beginning of the season,

955
00:48:57,480 --> 00:48:59,080
Speaker 1: Knick's gonna go eight and four this year. This is

956
00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:01,080
Speaker 1: the worst team he's had the last decade. It actually

957
00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:03,200
Speaker 1: shows what a great coach he is to get this

958
00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:05,360
Speaker 1: team by the end of the season, you know, beating Georgia,

959
00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:08,879
Speaker 1: But this is not you know, you're seven eight years

960
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:11,680
Speaker 1: ago Alabama team that is just now. They got good players,

961
00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:14,560
Speaker 1: but it's not. Jalen mill Roll another thing that the

962
00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:17,600
Speaker 1: media I saw the reaction to Bill O'Brien telling him

963
00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:20,960
Speaker 1: to change happens all the time in college football. Jalen Hurts,

964
00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:23,400
Speaker 1: Nick Saban told Jalen Hurts sit on the bench. People

965
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:25,920
Speaker 1: get told they're not good enough in college football. This football.

966
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:29,719
Speaker 1: People get benched, transfer leave teams all the time. He

967
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:33,399
Speaker 1: has improved. You know, he's a good deep but he's

968
00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:36,080
Speaker 1: got a big arm. He's not big, accurate, not much touch,

969
00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:40,239
Speaker 1: great athlete, but I listen, Michigan should win this game.

970
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:43,040
Speaker 1: But Harbaugh in these moments has to make you nervous,

971
00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:44,840
Speaker 1: a ton of pressure. I think part of the theory

972
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:47,080
Speaker 1: is gets a little tight. He's got a little Peyton manning.

973
00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:50,040
Speaker 1: He wants it so bad. Yeah, and it's just you know,

974
00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:52,600
Speaker 1: Nick's just well, Nick's used to this. This is, you know,

975
00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:54,120
Speaker 1: another day at the office for Saban.

976
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:58,279
Speaker 2: Well, what it's really interesting you say that Michigan went

977
00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:01,879
Speaker 2: six and zero without Harbor on the sideline. It's almost like, hey,

978
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:05,720
Speaker 2: my kids are always like, uh, if my wife doesn't

979
00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:07,759
Speaker 2: go on the vacation, my kids just don't want to

980
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:11,120
Speaker 2: go with dad because dad's intense. Dad's yelling at the airport.

981
00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:15,400
Speaker 2: It tells you that Jim's a great culture builder, but

982
00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:18,960
Speaker 2: sometimes on the sidelines his assistance are more chill. I mean,

983
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:21,319
Speaker 2: what does that tell you there's six and oh without him,

984
00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:25,160
Speaker 2: Alabama's not six and oh without Sabing on the sideline.

985
00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:28,239
Speaker 2: And I think it's a really good point about Jim.

986
00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:35,000
Speaker 2: Jim builds a terrific culture. But sometimes bowl games. This

987
00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:37,160
Speaker 2: is why Kaylin de Boorr is scary to face the

988
00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:40,480
Speaker 2: Washington coach. Get to that in a second. Sometimes bowl

989
00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:44,600
Speaker 2: games reward clever coaches. Urban Meyer could be very creative,

990
00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:48,640
Speaker 2: just creative enough in a bowl game, just create Lou

991
00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:53,279
Speaker 2: Holtz some of these guys that are just intense and

992
00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:57,279
Speaker 2: kind of this alpha and this is Jim and repetition,

993
00:50:57,520 --> 00:51:02,680
Speaker 2: and they don't bring a lot beyond that and that creativity.

994
00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:06,760
Speaker 2: I think Jim's offenses are somewhat dependent on a younger

995
00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:10,600
Speaker 2: creative set of eyes to elevate Jim. And I do

996
00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:12,799
Speaker 2: think there's a Peyton Manning quality where his teams feed

997
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:17,799
Speaker 2: up his intensity. But Michigan has been very consistent, Alabama

998
00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:22,799
Speaker 2: has not been. So might now win or lose? I

999
00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:25,480
Speaker 2: actually am in the minority here. I don't think it matters.

1000
00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:29,000
Speaker 2: I think Jim's going to pro football eventually. I don't

1001
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:30,960
Speaker 2: think if he wins or loses a natty, I don't

1002
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:33,919
Speaker 2: think it matters. Because Michigan is still going to be good.

1003
00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:37,040
Speaker 2: He's beaten Ohio State three in a row. He's done

1004
00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:41,240
Speaker 2: what he wanted to do, dominate the series of Ohio State,

1005
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:44,960
Speaker 2: bring Michigan back, and make him an elite team that's

1006
00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:47,799
Speaker 2: playing in the playoff, win or lose the Natty. He

1007
00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:51,640
Speaker 2: also knows that the South has far greater high school

1008
00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:54,320
Speaker 2: programs and he's at a disadvantage. It's why Brian Kelly

1009
00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:56,600
Speaker 2: took the LSU job over Notre Dame. Everybody knows this,

1010
00:51:57,360 --> 00:52:00,200
Speaker 2: So I don't think winning and losing a NATO he

1011
00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:01,560
Speaker 2: changes Harbaugh, do you?

1012
00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:07,000
Speaker 1: Uh No, because it's no one anyone that's around Harbaugh

1013
00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:10,319
Speaker 1: thinks he's impossible to know anything he's ever thinking, you know.

1014
00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:12,480
Speaker 1: So Harbaugh's just in his own little world. If he

1015
00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:14,600
Speaker 1: wants to go, he's gonna go. If you know, he's

1016
00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:16,359
Speaker 1: got a good thing going. They love him there. He's

1017
00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:18,719
Speaker 1: resurrected this program. They pay him a lot of money.

1018
00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:21,120
Speaker 1: It's not he's not leading for the money at this point.

1019
00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:25,200
Speaker 1: Like Jim, Harbaugh's absolutely loaded from coaching football, let alone playing.

1020
00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:28,759
Speaker 1: To me, the question though, is like bowl games are

1021
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:31,719
Speaker 1: hard to judge, but not a great couple of days

1022
00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:33,879
Speaker 1: for the Big Ten. I mean, Ohio State scored three points,

1023
00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:38,400
Speaker 1: another quarterback transferred. Penn State's fucking terrible. Those are Michigan's

1024
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:41,760
Speaker 1: two best wins. Look at who Alabama. Alabama beat Georgia.

1025
00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:45,279
Speaker 1: I don't know, that's a pretty good win. LSU's not bad.

1026
00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:48,000
Speaker 1: I mean they've had a lot of just they've been

1027
00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:50,399
Speaker 1: tested against a lot of NFL. The Big Ten turns

1028
00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:54,200
Speaker 1: out this year might not be that good. So I listen,

1029
00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:56,960
Speaker 1: Alabama should not win this game. You know, I don't

1030
00:52:57,000 --> 00:52:59,960
Speaker 1: think one thing Jim is good at with things going

1031
00:52:59,920 --> 00:53:02,959
Speaker 1: on outside, like Willie Leave, it doesn't really impact him

1032
00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:04,960
Speaker 1: and the way he carries himself. I know some coaches

1033
00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:07,400
Speaker 1: can get weirded out by that, just the way it

1034
00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:09,640
Speaker 1: just impacts them, the way they interact with their team.

1035
00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:12,960
Speaker 1: Jim is probably normal Jim Harbaugh to his team. I

1036
00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:16,359
Speaker 1: just wonder if they're tested enough. I know, they beat

1037
00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:17,840
Speaker 1: the shit out of everyone they played early in the

1038
00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:19,759
Speaker 1: season that are not any good. And then the two

1039
00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:22,560
Speaker 1: good wins they have, I don't know if those age great.

1040
00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:25,080
Speaker 1: Especially Penn State. I mean, that was a good win

1041
00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:28,840
Speaker 1: for Michigan, and they are lane destroyed them.

1042
00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:32,759
Speaker 2: Ye all right, finally Washington getting four to four and

1043
00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:35,560
Speaker 2: a half against Texas. I'll take Washington the points. I

1044
00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:39,680
Speaker 2: think this game's actually pretty simple. Like when Detroit and

1045
00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:42,200
Speaker 2: Dallas played, they had eight hundred yards offense six yards

1046
00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:43,560
Speaker 2: of play. You knew there was gonna be a lot

1047
00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:46,680
Speaker 2: of offensive firepower. Score didn't reflect that, but there was

1048
00:53:46,680 --> 00:53:52,480
Speaker 2: a lot of offense. Texas has better athletes, and their

1049
00:53:52,560 --> 00:53:56,840
Speaker 2: interior d line could give Washington's guard center guards real problems.

1050
00:53:57,360 --> 00:54:00,840
Speaker 2: Washington's talents at quarterback, receiver, left tackle, on an edge rusher.

1051
00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:04,680
Speaker 2: Texas has more players. Texas, on the other hand, has

1052
00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:08,680
Speaker 2: really a weak secondary, bad at corner. So if Texas

1053
00:54:08,719 --> 00:54:11,640
Speaker 2: can't create pressure on Michael Pennix, who will sit there

1054
00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:14,000
Speaker 2: to the last second, Washington is going to get the

1055
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:16,799
Speaker 2: ball down the field. My feeling is over the course

1056
00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:19,680
Speaker 2: of four quarters, three and a half hours, Sark will

1057
00:54:19,719 --> 00:54:23,480
Speaker 2: have some tricks, they'll be clever, and it'll be a shootout.

1058
00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:25,880
Speaker 2: Thirty eight thirty four. That's what it feels like to me.

1059
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Speaker 1: You.

1060
00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:29,440
Speaker 2: I will say this though, and I told this to

1061
00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:31,600
Speaker 2: a friend yesterday at the gym. He was he's a

1062
00:54:31,640 --> 00:54:33,799
Speaker 2: diehard college football fan. I said, I'm not so sure.

1063
00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:36,480
Speaker 2: Kaylin de Borid the best coach in the country, Like

1064
00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:40,520
Speaker 2: I when you watch Washington's receivers block. When you watch

1065
00:54:40,719 --> 00:54:43,120
Speaker 2: Washington the emergence late in the season of their run game,

1066
00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:46,320
Speaker 2: that's coaching. They don't have four and five star running backs.

1067
00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:50,440
Speaker 2: They're doing stuff that's beyond their players. I mean, if

1068
00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:53,279
Speaker 2: you look at them, Penis came from Indiana and that

1069
00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:57,400
Speaker 2: all sorts of physical injuries. Virtually every unit on that field,

1070
00:54:58,120 --> 00:55:03,560
Speaker 2: outside of maybe receiver, is over delivering. Playing over at Skis.

1071
00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:09,279
Speaker 2: My guess is they both score a lot. Eventually, Texas's

1072
00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:12,560
Speaker 2: ability to run and pound the football helps to wear

1073
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:14,720
Speaker 2: down Washington, but you don't feel that way.

1074
00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:18,480
Speaker 1: Our partners at DraftKings built a sports book about five

1075
00:55:18,520 --> 00:55:20,120
Speaker 1: minutes from my house. I'm going to get in the

1076
00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:23,160
Speaker 1: car tomorrow, probably around noon after I work out, and

1077
00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:25,719
Speaker 1: placed one of the biggest wagers I've ever have on Washington.

1078
00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:28,920
Speaker 1: I don't like Washington. I love him. Kaitlin divores four

1079
00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:31,040
Speaker 1: and oh is an underdog at Washington. He hasn't lost

1080
00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:34,760
Speaker 1: the game basically two years. I think that him and Grubb,

1081
00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:37,960
Speaker 1: his offensive coordinated right hand man, have been together now

1082
00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:41,320
Speaker 1: for almost two decades winning at every level, I mean big,

1083
00:55:41,360 --> 00:55:44,160
Speaker 1: at every level. They do not lose. And it's not

1084
00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:46,080
Speaker 1: just they don't always have the most talent. You saw

1085
00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:49,320
Speaker 1: that Oregon game, that was one they had the underdog

1086
00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:51,680
Speaker 1: card to play and it was we're gonna out coach you.

1087
00:55:52,200 --> 00:55:54,440
Speaker 1: And to me, sark and I know everyone likes him,

1088
00:55:54,440 --> 00:55:56,280
Speaker 1: and I know you know him. A lot of people

1089
00:55:56,400 --> 00:55:58,600
Speaker 1: know him. I don't know him. People like the guy.

1090
00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:01,280
Speaker 1: He has never won. This is easily the best season

1091
00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:04,560
Speaker 1: he's ever had. The Big twelve was fucking terrible. He

1092
00:56:04,680 --> 00:56:07,480
Speaker 1: has he has the highest payroll in college football when

1093
00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:09,400
Speaker 1: it comes to nil like they have the highest they

1094
00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:11,279
Speaker 1: have the most talent money can buy. And that's that's

1095
00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:14,480
Speaker 1: the rules. They're playing by him, Kaylan duboor. It's not

1096
00:56:14,520 --> 00:56:16,319
Speaker 1: like he's like the little engine that could. They got

1097
00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:19,000
Speaker 1: NFL players on the offensive line, on the defensive line,

1098
00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:21,520
Speaker 1: they got star wide receivers, and they have a quarterback

1099
00:56:21,560 --> 00:56:24,560
Speaker 1: who's proven in big moments on the road in neutral

1100
00:56:24,600 --> 00:56:27,399
Speaker 1: sites to be incredible. And to me, it all gets

1101
00:56:27,400 --> 00:56:30,719
Speaker 1: back to the coaching. I will take Kaylan Duboer over

1102
00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:33,080
Speaker 1: Steve Sarkisian every day of the week. And I think

1103
00:56:33,160 --> 00:56:35,000
Speaker 1: they win this game, which I expect them to do.

1104
00:56:35,120 --> 00:56:36,920
Speaker 1: I think there's a decent chance they win a Natal championship.

1105
00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:38,919
Speaker 1: Right now, they're seven to one on DraftKings. I don't

1106
00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:41,240
Speaker 1: think it's crazy, right if they win this game, why

1107
00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:43,239
Speaker 1: couldn't they beat Why couldn't he beat Harbal.

1108
00:56:43,680 --> 00:56:46,359
Speaker 2: Well, Yeah, and the other thing is you get an

1109
00:56:46,360 --> 00:56:50,319
Speaker 2: offensive coach against potentially, say, but a defensive coach. There

1110
00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:53,799
Speaker 2: is a little bit to be said about you know,

1111
00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:57,120
Speaker 2: Michigan Obama beat each other up. I mean, that's gonna.

1112
00:56:56,840 --> 00:56:58,200
Speaker 1: Be a war zone.

1113
00:56:58,880 --> 00:57:02,480
Speaker 2: A war zone game. Washington Texas may look like a

1114
00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:04,919
Speaker 2: big twelve game. It may be spread out, fun moving

1115
00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:08,880
Speaker 2: around and all of a sudden, you know, it's not

1116
00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:11,680
Speaker 2: a finesse game. But it's not a pound game Michigan Bama,

1117
00:57:11,680 --> 00:57:14,720
Speaker 2: I can tell you right now. I mean, Michigan would

1118
00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:18,240
Speaker 2: love to throw the ball thirteen times and just pound

1119
00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:20,680
Speaker 2: Alabama and never get I mean that's their game plan.

1120
00:57:21,160 --> 00:57:23,280
Speaker 2: Washington could throw forty five times. It could look like

1121
00:57:23,320 --> 00:57:26,840
Speaker 2: flag football. So the winner of Washington Texas may come

1122
00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:30,320
Speaker 2: out of sort of a like a flag football game

1123
00:57:30,320 --> 00:57:32,920
Speaker 2: where it's a lot of throwing and healthier and have

1124
00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:34,000
Speaker 2: more energy.

1125
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Speaker 1: I'd give it to the SEC, but you could make

1126
00:57:35,720 --> 00:57:38,360
Speaker 1: the argument in twenty twenty three, the best conference top

1127
00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:41,240
Speaker 1: to bottom was the Pac twelve. Washington didn't lose game

1128
00:57:41,760 --> 00:57:43,800
Speaker 1: and the second best team, which easily could be a

1129
00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:45,760
Speaker 1: playoff team, may beat twice and really they'd beat three

1130
00:57:45,760 --> 00:57:48,320
Speaker 1: times in a row. Right, So I mean this team,

1131
00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:51,439
Speaker 1: the Big twelve, we act like Sark blew everyone out.

1132
00:57:51,560 --> 00:57:53,120
Speaker 1: I watched a lot of Texas games like he was

1133
00:57:53,160 --> 00:57:55,720
Speaker 1: a weird game throughout the season. You know that they are.

1134
00:57:56,000 --> 00:57:59,360
Speaker 1: And he has a little quality When he should run

1135
00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:02,160
Speaker 1: the ball, he gets a little pass happy, and he's

1136
00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:03,760
Speaker 1: not a guy. It's it's not like this is his

1137
00:58:03,760 --> 00:58:06,000
Speaker 1: fourth playoff appearance as a head coach. He's like a

1138
00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:08,480
Speaker 1: seven and a half lifetime average win a year guy.

1139
00:58:08,760 --> 00:58:11,280
Speaker 1: You know this is an outlier. See Kaylin Dubor is

1140
00:58:11,360 --> 00:58:13,800
Speaker 1: used to playing in championships. Now they're at different levels,

1141
00:58:14,200 --> 00:58:16,960
Speaker 1: but he's gone in the Pac twelve immediately dominates. I

1142
00:58:17,400 --> 00:58:19,520
Speaker 1: love them tomorrow, Colin, and I'm not this is taken.

1143
00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:21,200
Speaker 1: I think Texas is good. I'm not acting like they

1144
00:58:21,480 --> 00:58:23,280
Speaker 1: stink and this is not going to be a close game.

1145
00:58:23,720 --> 00:58:27,360
Speaker 1: But I think the differential of him if Jim Harbad leaves,

1146
00:58:28,120 --> 00:58:34,040
Speaker 1: who's Michigan's first call? Oh yeah, So if Ryan Day

1147
00:58:34,040 --> 00:58:36,320
Speaker 1: would have got fired yesterday after losing fourteen to three,

1148
00:58:36,360 --> 00:58:38,120
Speaker 1: who do you think they're calling? So it's like this

1149
00:58:38,200 --> 00:58:40,160
Speaker 1: is this is a guy that in five years are

1150
00:58:40,200 --> 00:58:42,960
Speaker 1: we talking? Is he the next Kirby Smart? You know,

1151
00:58:43,200 --> 00:58:44,440
Speaker 1: I think it's very possible.

1152
00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:47,040
Speaker 2: I think he's as good as any coach in the country.

1153
00:58:47,400 --> 00:58:51,360
Speaker 2: I talked to an Ohio State and Boostery yesterday. He said,

1154
00:58:51,360 --> 00:58:53,800
Speaker 2: if you asked me today who's the coach in the year,

1155
00:58:53,880 --> 00:58:56,960
Speaker 2: I'd say Kayln Dbor at Ohio State. And I said, well,

1156
00:58:57,040 --> 00:58:59,360
Speaker 2: Washington's gonna get to eight million dollars. And you know

1157
00:58:59,480 --> 00:59:02,600
Speaker 2: Washington's program, it's the one. I'm a Husky right since

1158
00:59:02,600 --> 00:59:05,840
Speaker 2: I was a kid. It's really an interesting program. Despite

1159
00:59:05,880 --> 00:59:10,360
Speaker 2: their geographic isolation and the fact that Washington has about

1160
00:59:10,360 --> 00:59:12,919
Speaker 2: twelve Division one players a year of the state, they've

1161
00:59:12,920 --> 00:59:18,480
Speaker 2: had four great coaches, Don James new Heizel briefly, Chris Peterson,

1162
00:59:19,240 --> 00:59:22,240
Speaker 2: and Kaylen d Boor In all of them, they were

1163
00:59:22,240 --> 00:59:25,440
Speaker 2: in the national championship discussion with Down they wanted with

1164
00:59:25,480 --> 00:59:28,560
Speaker 2: Peterson playoffs, Kaylan playoffs, and new Heisel had an eleven

1165
00:59:28,560 --> 00:59:31,080
Speaker 2: to one team. I think Marcus Tuyas's SOBO beat Perdue

1166
00:59:31,080 --> 00:59:32,280
Speaker 2: and the Rose Bowl. I mean they were very very

1167
00:59:32,280 --> 00:59:33,600
Speaker 2: good for a couple of you beat Miami.

1168
00:59:33,680 --> 00:59:37,240
Speaker 1: Remember, I think if you just removed part of it

1169
00:59:37,280 --> 00:59:39,960
Speaker 1: is no one really knows this, like the betting market, right,

1170
00:59:39,960 --> 00:59:42,240
Speaker 1: Like why are they such a big underdog these if

1171
00:59:42,280 --> 00:59:45,840
Speaker 1: you removed Washington and Kaylan Duboor and USC and Lincoln

1172
00:59:45,920 --> 00:59:48,840
Speaker 1: Riley just had the same season. USC's probably favored in

1173
00:59:48,840 --> 00:59:52,280
Speaker 1: this game, right, but it's Washington, is Kayln dubor where

1174
00:59:52,320 --> 00:59:55,640
Speaker 1: was he coaching ten years ago? And Mai? I think

1175
00:59:55,680 --> 00:59:59,240
Speaker 1: they are insanely undervalue. Now. That doesn't mean they could

1176
00:59:59,280 --> 01:00:01,800
Speaker 1: lose tomorrow Tech. This is loaded, but I don't think

1177
01:00:01,800 --> 01:00:03,520
Speaker 1: it's out of the wrong seven to one to win

1178
01:00:03,520 --> 01:00:05,480
Speaker 1: the national champ Oh, you gotta do you win this game?

1179
01:00:06,280 --> 01:00:09,800
Speaker 1: They'll have beat Oregon twice in Texas, who killed Alabama

1180
01:00:09,800 --> 01:00:14,040
Speaker 1: early in the season. I think I think Washington, honestly,

1181
01:00:14,040 --> 01:00:15,560
Speaker 1: I don't think it's crazy if they win by like

1182
01:00:15,600 --> 01:00:18,000
Speaker 1: ten points, because I think he's that great of a coach.

1183
01:00:18,080 --> 01:00:20,720
Speaker 1: I think his assistant, Nick Saban, tried to hire Ryan

1184
01:00:20,760 --> 01:00:22,960
Speaker 1: Grubb as his offensive coordinator last year and I was

1185
01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:24,439
Speaker 1: reading an article the other day. I think by Pat

1186
01:00:24,440 --> 01:00:28,240
Speaker 1: forty and Ryan's like, listen. Obviously Washington matched the amount

1187
01:00:28,280 --> 01:00:30,959
Speaker 1: of money, but he's like, I value being around my guy.

1188
01:00:31,120 --> 01:00:34,000
Speaker 1: He empowers me. We have a great team. We set

1189
01:00:34,040 --> 01:00:36,120
Speaker 1: out to do what we're doing, and I think that

1190
01:00:36,280 --> 01:00:39,200
Speaker 1: tandem of that group is kind of got some vibes. Now.

1191
01:00:39,240 --> 01:00:41,280
Speaker 1: They got a long way to go of like Kirby

1192
01:00:41,320 --> 01:00:43,520
Speaker 1: and Nick, it's like a power tandem, and they have.

1193
01:00:43,920 --> 01:00:45,880
Speaker 1: They have taken the pac twelve by storm the last

1194
01:00:45,920 --> 01:00:46,360
Speaker 1: two years.

1195
01:00:47,800 --> 01:00:51,920
Speaker 2: His name is John Middlcoff, wildly connected, former Eagle scout

1196
01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:55,320
Speaker 2: in the NFL Three and Ounces podcast at the volume.

1197
01:00:55,520 --> 01:00:58,400
Speaker 2: We do an hour on Sundays and it's my favorite

1198
01:00:58,400 --> 01:01:03,000
Speaker 2: hour of the week. Tomorrow, two big ones. You've talked

1199
01:01:03,000 --> 01:01:04,480
Speaker 2: me into Washington. Well, I was gonna take him in

1200
01:01:04,520 --> 01:01:04,920
Speaker 2: the points.

1201
01:01:06,320 --> 01:01:08,880
Speaker 1: I'm taking them money.

1202
01:01:09,320 --> 01:01:14,760
Speaker 2: I don't think you're wrong. You know what, I don't

1203
01:01:14,800 --> 01:01:16,480
Speaker 2: know why I'm talking myself out of washing it. I

1204
01:01:16,520 --> 01:01:18,400
Speaker 2: should be a Homer. It's the one team I beat.

1205
01:01:18,440 --> 01:01:19,960
Speaker 2: The audience would allow me to be a home er.

1206
01:01:20,040 --> 01:01:22,400
Speaker 2: I grew up in the Pacific Northwest. I thought Oregon

1207
01:01:22,680 --> 01:01:24,640
Speaker 2: was going to roll him the second time and the

1208
01:01:24,880 --> 01:01:25,960
Speaker 2: and I think Dan Lanning's good.

1209
01:01:26,000 --> 01:01:28,040
Speaker 1: They were a nine point underdog and he kicked their ass.

1210
01:01:29,120 --> 01:01:31,200
Speaker 2: And I think Dan Lanning I watched more than twice

1211
01:01:31,280 --> 01:01:37,520
Speaker 2: Life excellent staff. They manipulated first snap on, manipulated the game.

1212
01:01:38,000 --> 01:01:42,760
Speaker 2: It's like, what am I watching here? John and Joy

1213
01:01:42,800 --> 01:01:44,600
Speaker 2: or Tito's tomorrow, Buddy, I got a case waiting for

1214
01:01:44,640 --> 01:01:45,240
Speaker 2: you in my garage.

1215
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Speaker 1: I'm ready for it. Go Dogs. The volume