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Speaker 1: This is Frosted Tips with Lance Bass and my Heart

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Speaker 1: Radio podcast. Hello, my Little Peanuts, it's me your host,

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Speaker 1: Lance Bass. This is Frosted Tips with Me and my

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Speaker 1: co host, The Lovely Turkey Turk Chang. Oh why thank

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Speaker 1: you Lance Bass. Um Easter is on its way. We

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Speaker 1: got to plan our Easter egg hunts. So we always

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Speaker 1: throw an Easter egg hunt for all our friends kids.

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Speaker 1: But now that we have kids, they get to participate.

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Speaker 1: They didn't last year because they couldn't hold a basket. No,

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Speaker 1: they were just nuggets last year. But this year they

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Speaker 1: can actually hold a basket. And our and Violet, our hoarder.

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Speaker 1: She's a good going to hoard these eggs, like, No,

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Speaker 1: she's gonna be a great she's winning the problem right.

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Speaker 1: Oh she's yeah, she's she's built for this. Uh. You

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Speaker 1: know one thing that I learned last night that really

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Speaker 1: kind of made me very depressed. Oh my god, yes

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Speaker 1: you did. Yeah, so I'm I was talking to Giggles

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Speaker 1: last night, who has a niece who's sick or seven

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Speaker 1: and some around there. I've been excited about. Oh, potty

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Speaker 1: training is coming up right in the next couple of months.

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Speaker 1: We get to potty train um, and I you know,

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Speaker 1: I want them out of diapers as soon as possible, because,

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Speaker 1: let's just face it, the diaper part is just the

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Speaker 1: worst part of having babies. It's just and twins, so

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Speaker 1: many diapers, so many wiping up the butts. So I

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Speaker 1: to be able to use the bathroom, and then just like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: I'm done out of diapers. Well I just found out

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Speaker 1: that you're still wiping their butt to like they're five, six,

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Speaker 1: seven years old, so you're basically not done with the

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Speaker 1: changing of the diapers. Yeah, well, use little kids can't

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Speaker 1: properly wipe their butt, which I feel like it's even

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Speaker 1: worse because if they're sitting on the toilet and other

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Speaker 1: get up and then you have to like wipe them

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Speaker 1: and then yeah, they're caller calling you. Yeah, like you

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Speaker 1: need to wipe me, and it's obviously bigger poos at

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Speaker 1: this point they're like little kids. Well eventually they're gonna

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Speaker 1: do it for you when year old. So it's just

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Speaker 1: I don't have to have them do that I'm making

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Speaker 1: them do it. Oh just put my pants kids. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but that kind of depressed me a little bit because

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Speaker 1: I just thought, oh, you know two and a half, right,

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Speaker 1: three years old. I think the three year old is

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Speaker 1: going to properly wipe their butt. I honestly thought that

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Speaker 1: they would. I did. Well, welcome to fatherhood. This is gross.

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Speaker 1: Let's not talk about this anybody. This is hey, this

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Speaker 1: is what the people want. This is this is the

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Speaker 1: people deal with lant um. All right, let's get onto

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Speaker 1: what we're really here for, mister Gary Barlow. So when

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Speaker 1: we come back, we have the man, myth, the legend.

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Speaker 1: Take that Gary freaking Barlow, Please, welcome to the show.

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Speaker 1: Gary Barlow was English singer, songwriter, record producer, television personality,

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Speaker 1: kind of does everything under the sun, lead singer of

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Speaker 1: the British group of Course Take that. Barlow is one

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Speaker 1: of the United Kingdom's most successful songwriters, having written thirteen

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Speaker 1: number one singles Yeah and twenty four top ten hits

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Speaker 1: Busy Man, Busy Man. As a solo artist, he has

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Speaker 1: had three number one singles, six top ten singles, three

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Speaker 1: would take that. That is crazy. And not only that.

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Speaker 1: He was appointed as Officer of the Order of the

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Speaker 1: British Empire at the twenty twelve Queen's Birthday Honors for

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Speaker 1: his services to the entertainment industry and charity that I

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Speaker 1: cannot wait to talk about because as Americans we have

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Speaker 1: the royal family. So Gary Barlow, welcome to Frosted Tips,

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Speaker 1: my friend. So lovely to be here. Thank you, thank you.

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Speaker 1: Nice to see about you too. I know we were

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Speaker 1: just saying that we ran into in the airport in

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Speaker 1: get to catch up too much. We get it was

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Speaker 1: a flyby. It was a flyby. But now we get

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Speaker 1: to really catch up and I get to know you because,

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Speaker 1: especially sitting next to my young husband here than he

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Speaker 1: missed the take that era, which was very sad, very sad,

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Speaker 1: then you you ended up breaking up at that point,

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Speaker 1: and then it just kind of stopped, Like, oh my goodness.

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Speaker 1: Do you ever wish that y'all could have spent a

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Speaker 1: the US. I'm not very big on regrets regrets of

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Speaker 1: we're still making albums, so you know, regrets aren't big. However,

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Speaker 1: we do talk about the States a lot um, and

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Speaker 1: is a shame that we never really got to share

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Speaker 1: our music. Yeah, we do have some American fans about

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Speaker 1: three I think, nah, no, trust me way more than that.

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Speaker 1: Well there, y'all were such a big influence on us

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Speaker 1: right when y'all were just kind of finishing your run. Um.

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Speaker 1: But you were such a big influence because it was

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Speaker 1: It felt like us right, We're like, oh, that's that's

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Speaker 1: the type of group we would like to be. The harmonies, everything,

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Speaker 1: and just your personalities. It was a huge influence. I remember, gosh,

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Speaker 1: I got this. I got this song. It's called I'll

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Speaker 1: be Back for More. It's gonna be great. We recorded

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Speaker 1: it for our demo, UM, and it goes a little

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Speaker 1: Ain't Here Anymore and lou was just totally lying and

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Speaker 1: that he wrote that song. Classic, yes, classic. So that

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Speaker 1: was my first introduction to your group, was this song.

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Speaker 1: Because we found out that this is all a lie.

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Speaker 1: been your first. Did you write that song by the way, yes,

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Speaker 1: we've had thirty two amazing years in our band, and

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Speaker 1: our manager was I mean, you know, he never cheated

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Speaker 1: he was very much believed in us, especially me, from

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Speaker 1: refreshing to hear because it's what we all I mean,

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Speaker 1: did you just hear all the horse stories. Even to day,

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Speaker 1: even all the lessons we've all learned, there's still groups

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Speaker 1: this horrible contract. Yeah exactly. Well let's go back to

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Speaker 1: how it did form um. So it really started with you,

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Speaker 1: So I went into Nigel's office and he said, I

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Speaker 1: or you know, the Assoman. He's like, yeah, exactly that.

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Speaker 1: so lots of music oasis. Well that's why his mother

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Speaker 1: same thing. She was like, it was the best era

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Speaker 1: And supporting Lonnie Doneghan was a group called the Beatles,

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Speaker 1: and at that point they were doing cover versions. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: getting into pop music. That's all I listened to at home.

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Speaker 1: But did we perform every single Grammy's Yes, because they

424
00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:20,359
Speaker 1: wanted the ratings, but they didn't want to give us

425
00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:25,040
Speaker 1: the respect. Sure, sure, you know I had had a

426
00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:31,040
Speaker 1: lovely you'll enjoy this. Peter Gabriel brought his daughter to

427
00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:34,920
Speaker 1: one of our shows. Now, I'm a massive Peter Gabriel fan,

428
00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:38,080
Speaker 1: you know a lot. I mean that anything. I just

429
00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:40,160
Speaker 1: love his bought, I love his songwright. I'm just a

430
00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:42,440
Speaker 1: massive fan of hiss It. It It was a really big

431
00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:45,760
Speaker 1: moment for me, and so of course I was doing

432
00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:48,520
Speaker 1: what we were just talking about. Oh you know, it's

433
00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:51,159
Speaker 1: just pop music, you know, and he said, hang on

434
00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:53,680
Speaker 1: a minute, No, no, no, said these kids in here,

435
00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:57,040
Speaker 1: this is their first concert and that's the night they've

436
00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:59,160
Speaker 1: just had. There going to be coming back for the

437
00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:00,960
Speaker 1: rest of their life. As an all of a sudden,

438
00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:04,600
Speaker 1: I thought, yeah, that's so true. It really gave us

439
00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:06,720
Speaker 1: a bit of validation. I went straight to the bus

440
00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:09,000
Speaker 1: to tell the lads. Everyone couldn't believe it, and it

441
00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:14,200
Speaker 1: was like, that's fantastic. So yeah, nice moment. I love

442
00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:17,639
Speaker 1: that so you have a super fan in the Netherlands

443
00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:21,400
Speaker 1: named Corey. I don't know if you have met this girl,

444
00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:24,240
Speaker 1: but my friend Christina sent over some questions because she

445
00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:26,359
Speaker 1: is so excited that you're on the show. And she

446
00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:28,439
Speaker 1: has a good question right here, because we were just

447
00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:31,359
Speaker 1: talking about being so young. She asked, do you have

448
00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:34,640
Speaker 1: any advice on how artists can cope with mega stardom

449
00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:37,040
Speaker 1: at such a young age? Since you were a judge

450
00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:39,440
Speaker 1: on X Factor the year after One Direction formed on

451
00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:41,560
Speaker 1: the show, So do you have any good advice for

452
00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:45,919
Speaker 1: a young artist that is just about to explode? Well,

453
00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:49,840
Speaker 1: you know one thing I hate giving advice, Boots. There's

454
00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:52,520
Speaker 1: one thing that I always try. And you know, if

455
00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:55,000
Speaker 1: people come up to you on an aeroplane or something

456
00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:58,120
Speaker 1: and they want some advice for their kids, I always say,

457
00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:03,160
Speaker 1: learn an instrument. And if your instruments singing, like really,

458
00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:09,800
Speaker 1: learn how to don't just you know, guess and chance it.

459
00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:14,160
Speaker 1: Learn about it. Study here, you know it, be professional,

460
00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:18,159
Speaker 1: go out there and do exams. And because you know,

461
00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:20,520
Speaker 1: if you could learn to play something or you learn

462
00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:23,159
Speaker 1: to sing really well, you've got a job forever. You know,

463
00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:27,159
Speaker 1: you'll make people feel something. So I always say, you know,

464
00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:30,840
Speaker 1: go back to basics and I you know, we're signed

465
00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:33,199
Speaker 1: to a Universal Records here. And the one thing I

466
00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:37,640
Speaker 1: always hear from record labels this, no one plays instruments anymore,

467
00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:41,280
Speaker 1: you know, because people want things now. They don't they

468
00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:44,399
Speaker 1: don't want to have to practice something for two years.

469
00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:46,960
Speaker 1: They want to learn how to play it now, right now.

470
00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:51,280
Speaker 1: And so they're they're seeing there's the latest artists who

471
00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:54,439
Speaker 1: are coming through. They're just not learning instruments anymore. And

472
00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:57,479
Speaker 1: that's that's a real worry. It's true. It's that instant

473
00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:00,600
Speaker 1: gratification that everyone has to have right now, social media everything.

474
00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:02,639
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, back in our day, you had

475
00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:05,040
Speaker 1: to go to every single radio station in the world

476
00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:08,679
Speaker 1: to get your song played. Now it's like boop three seconds,

477
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:11,200
Speaker 1: it's out there in the world and go ahead, radio play,

478
00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:13,879
Speaker 1: which you just put it on TikTok and there you go.

479
00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:18,720
Speaker 1: That's yeah, that's nice. Kids have it so easier these days.

480
00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:23,600
Speaker 1: But it's true, like learn one thing that I wish

481
00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:26,240
Speaker 1: I would have done as a kid, because I you know,

482
00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:29,040
Speaker 1: I took piano lessons. But you know, as a kid

483
00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:31,399
Speaker 1: from Mississippi, you know, people start making fun of you

484
00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:33,359
Speaker 1: and they start saying you're gay and all that. So

485
00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:34,800
Speaker 1: you know, you stop and you're like, oh, I can't

486
00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:36,720
Speaker 1: play piano because of course I was a closet a

487
00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:39,119
Speaker 1: little kid, so I didn't want people to think that

488
00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:41,439
Speaker 1: I was gay because I played the piano. That is

489
00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:43,840
Speaker 1: my one regret was not to keep that up and

490
00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:46,080
Speaker 1: that my play. I can tinkle around, I can write,

491
00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:49,320
Speaker 1: you know, on piano, but I really wanted to be

492
00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:52,199
Speaker 1: masterful and being able to play piano. And I if

493
00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:55,000
Speaker 1: I could just go back and just keep up with lesson,

494
00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:57,760
Speaker 1: I know, I took the same thing. My parents said, listen,

495
00:26:57,800 --> 00:26:59,080
Speaker 1: you could quit af you on. We're not going to

496
00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:01,720
Speaker 1: force you, but you're going to regret it when you're older. Yeah,

497
00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:04,879
Speaker 1: and yeah, I regret it. Yeah, you know. I have

498
00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:09,080
Speaker 1: to say it's it's having real roots in music for

499
00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:11,640
Speaker 1: me has saved me, you know in the times when

500
00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:14,000
Speaker 1: you're thinking, you know, because there's a whole period of

501
00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:16,800
Speaker 1: like a nine ten year period in the middle for

502
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:19,760
Speaker 1: me where I didn't do a lot of music. I

503
00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:21,879
Speaker 1: couldn't work out where I was going. I didn't have

504
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:26,560
Speaker 1: a record deal, and and but music, it's it taps

505
00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:28,639
Speaker 1: you on the shoulder and you need it, you know.

506
00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:33,160
Speaker 1: And and whenever I've whenever I've been in a mess,

507
00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:36,199
Speaker 1: Music's always got me out of the mess. You know.

508
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:38,600
Speaker 1: If ever I've not been able to think straight, music

509
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:41,480
Speaker 1: helps you to. Is there a particular style that you

510
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:46,400
Speaker 1: gravitate towards. Um, you know, it's folky. I think my

511
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:49,680
Speaker 1: my my voice is sort of folky, and I love

512
00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:54,520
Speaker 1: guitars and I love piano and um yeah, so so

513
00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:58,199
Speaker 1: anything that's sort of acoustic, I think is is my

514
00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:01,080
Speaker 1: sort of start. I don't really do beat so, you know,

515
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:03,439
Speaker 1: back in the nineties we had a little moment with

516
00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:06,359
Speaker 1: beats and things, but it's not doesn't come natural to

517
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:08,720
Speaker 1: me that. Yes, I know, we tried the techno thing

518
00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:11,720
Speaker 1: for good, maybe two months when we lived in Germany.

519
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:15,479
Speaker 1: It did not suit us. Oh god, it was horrible.

520
00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:17,399
Speaker 1: It's like forcing yourself to do something that you just

521
00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:20,840
Speaker 1: and I absolutely hated that style back then. Now it's

522
00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:22,520
Speaker 1: all about dance music, but then it was just like

523
00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:25,919
Speaker 1: the I'm like, oh god, right, but yeah, we were

524
00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:28,320
Speaker 1: we were not doing that. Um here's a question also

525
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:31,160
Speaker 1: from Corey. I don't even know who this is, but

526
00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:33,679
Speaker 1: I want to know. Now, do you still talk to

527
00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:39,040
Speaker 1: Jason Orange, how is he? Do you know what now?

528
00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:41,800
Speaker 1: And again we do. So we we had a band

529
00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 1: member who oh he was in the band, you know

530
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:47,240
Speaker 1: we oh yeah, so so so we we were a

531
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:49,760
Speaker 1: five piece all the way through the nineties, okay, And

532
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:53,560
Speaker 1: then Robbie left and I left and we had this

533
00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:56,080
Speaker 1: this this period where we went together. But then when

534
00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:59,240
Speaker 1: we came back in two thousand and five, we came

535
00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:01,040
Speaker 1: back as a four piece, so it was the four

536
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:04,880
Speaker 1: of us guys without Robbie, and so weird. I mean,

537
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:07,640
Speaker 1: we had more success second time around than we did

538
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:10,240
Speaker 1: the first time. Our records were bigger, they were on

539
00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:14,600
Speaker 1: the radio for longer, we were playing stadiums instead of arenas.

540
00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:19,160
Speaker 1: It really went great for us. And you know, and

541
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:23,120
Speaker 1: one of our members, Jason, after our we did an album,

542
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:25,240
Speaker 1: we did two albums by ourselves or four of us,

543
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:27,120
Speaker 1: and then our third album we did it with Robbie.

544
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 1: So it was like this massive reunion. Everyone's going crazy,

545
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:35,680
Speaker 1: including us. It was just such an amazing full circle.

546
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:39,120
Speaker 1: And Jason just turned up after that and he went,

547
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:42,680
Speaker 1: that's it. We can't that's the end. It's done. I'm done.

548
00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:46,160
Speaker 1: I don't want to do anymore. And It's funny if

549
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:48,640
Speaker 1: if it was if we were all nineteen, we'd have

550
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:51,240
Speaker 1: all sat and begged him and talked him back in.

551
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:55,960
Speaker 1: But there's something about being an adult. It's like, you've

552
00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:59,640
Speaker 1: this comes a point where you've just got to respect

553
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:03,280
Speaker 1: somebod his choice. Yeah, and we could tell he was

554
00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 1: serious because he was really enjoying, like saying goodbye to us.

555
00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:10,560
Speaker 1: You know, you've got to carry on. And we were like, God,

556
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:13,400
Speaker 1: he really is going, and that was it. He's never

557
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:16,800
Speaker 1: come back, he's never recorded with us again. He speaks

558
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:19,640
Speaker 1: to us now and again, but he's very much turned

559
00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:22,280
Speaker 1: his back on the limelight. Doesn't want to be that

560
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:25,560
Speaker 1: guy anymore. Yeah, and we all look, the older you get,

561
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:28,080
Speaker 1: the more you just you know, change and want to

562
00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:30,560
Speaker 1: do the things that you want to do. And if

563
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:32,200
Speaker 1: it's not being in one of the biggest bands in

564
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:36,120
Speaker 1: the world, it you just don't want to do it. Fine,

565
00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:39,400
Speaker 1: I'm glad that y'all you know, left in good terms.

566
00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:41,920
Speaker 1: For sure. Absolutely say I'm not a fan club because

567
00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:46,280
Speaker 1: I didn't know who Jason was. I know it's been

568
00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:49,200
Speaker 1: a while, Okay, I got to brush up, all right,

569
00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:51,240
Speaker 1: Let's get to a few fan questions now. Because I

570
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:52,840
Speaker 1: don't want to keep you too long. I could talk

571
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:54,960
Speaker 1: to you for that's okay, two days here, Oh, I

572
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:58,120
Speaker 1: could say it all days all right? So what is

573
00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 1: this is from Jessica el Milo? What is the best

574
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:05,920
Speaker 1: lesson you have learned so far in life? Let's get deep.

575
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:14,800
Speaker 1: What's the best lesson they've learned the best lesson? Yeah?

576
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:18,160
Speaker 1: So so um so me and my wife, So we've

577
00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:21,360
Speaker 1: been married. I say that I shouldn't say that I'm

578
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:25,000
Speaker 1: her husband. She's not my wife and her husband. We've

579
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:29,200
Speaker 1: been together for twenty eight years. Oh my gosh, how

580
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:34,800
Speaker 1: we met? We met on tour. Yeah, we actually met.

581
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:36,840
Speaker 1: You know, it's funny. We actually met in the eighties.

582
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:40,320
Speaker 1: I did this really terrible video in nineteen eighty eight

583
00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:43,040
Speaker 1: before I joined the band, and she was one of

584
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:45,160
Speaker 1: the two dances in the video. So we met there

585
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 1: and then she was she We did the Brits one

586
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:50,040
Speaker 1: year and she was on that. We actually did the

587
00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:52,760
Speaker 1: Beatles Medley and she was on that show. We said

588
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:55,800
Speaker 1: helow again. And then when we went out on a

589
00:31:55,840 --> 00:32:00,560
Speaker 1: tour in ninety five, we needed twenty two dancers and

590
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 1: she was one of them, and we just got together

591
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:05,720
Speaker 1: on that tour. We literally from that day on have

592
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:10,960
Speaker 1: never been a part since. Wow, yeah, that is so well.

593
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:12,840
Speaker 1: It's great to be able to meet the love of

594
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 1: your life, you know, especially in the height of your career. Um,

595
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:19,440
Speaker 1: because I couldn't imagine, I mean, as a gay guy.

596
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:21,760
Speaker 1: I didn't really get to date on the road. I

597
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:24,040
Speaker 1: didn't get to really experience the road life of meeting

598
00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 1: a girl and taking her back. But to be able

599
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:29,440
Speaker 1: to have that love your life already kind of set

600
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 1: with you so you didn't have to worry about meeting

601
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:36,880
Speaker 1: other people, that must have felt amazing. And also, you know,

602
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:38,880
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, I still look around me now,

603
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:43,040
Speaker 1: and you know, our business it attracts all the wrong people,

604
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:49,240
Speaker 1: you know, really does. And I was so lucky that

605
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:53,240
Speaker 1: I found someone who who who loves me, and he

606
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:57,080
Speaker 1: is a great person and an amazing bomb and just

607
00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:59,640
Speaker 1: a great partner, you know, because of course she doesn't.

608
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:03,680
Speaker 1: She's not in the spotlight at all anymore. But it's

609
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:06,320
Speaker 1: happy for me to be and knows that how much

610
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:09,080
Speaker 1: I love what I do, and she respects and loves

611
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:12,480
Speaker 1: what I do so much. So I feel, you know,

612
00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:14,720
Speaker 1: if you were asking me about what I've I learned

613
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:19,160
Speaker 1: it's to appreciate when you've got amazing people around you.

614
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:23,400
Speaker 1: And for me that it starts with with with Dawn.

615
00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 1: For me, how many kids do you have? We have

616
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:30,360
Speaker 1: three kids? Three kids? Yeah? Did when you finally had kids?

617
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:32,880
Speaker 1: I mean, because we just had kids ourselves, and you

618
00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 1: do look at the world much differently totally. You know,

619
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:40,160
Speaker 1: it's no longer you're not selfish anymore. You're just like, oh,

620
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:43,080
Speaker 1: this is what a selfless thing? It feels like. Um

621
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:46,080
Speaker 1: with your with your writing, Did your writing change once

622
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:52,080
Speaker 1: you had a family? Oh? I think so. I'm I

623
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:55,720
Speaker 1: write songs every day. Every single day, I will write

624
00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 1: something or something it could be a boos, So I

625
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 1: write a lot. And I think that being parents and

626
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:10,760
Speaker 1: having partners, the love is a different love than anything

627
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:16,319
Speaker 1: else you can experience and sow the volume of it

628
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:20,960
Speaker 1: and the way it affects you emotionally and physically. It

629
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:23,640
Speaker 1: just ends up in songs. It just does. It has to,

630
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:29,000
Speaker 1: because it's just such a past of you. But for

631
00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:33,040
Speaker 1: you guys, we're actually coming out the other side of

632
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:36,120
Speaker 1: parenthood now because we're starting to get our life back

633
00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:39,200
Speaker 1: after all these years. So we're kind of starting to

634
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:43,560
Speaker 1: rediscover each other. Again, which is actually quite beautiful too.

635
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:47,080
Speaker 1: So we're getting our nights back in the week where

636
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:49,319
Speaker 1: we go out, and you know, we get the odd

637
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:53,640
Speaker 1: weekend away when they're away. It's very, very nice. The

638
00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:57,640
Speaker 1: next stage of being parents, you've got to look forward

639
00:34:57,640 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 1: to that. Well, I'm looking for that. You know. We

640
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:02,160
Speaker 1: start a little late time, so I hope when they're

641
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:05,239
Speaker 1: getting out of the house that I am young enough

642
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:09,480
Speaker 1: to actually enjoy life again. Who we're still enjoying you now? Yeah?

643
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:12,399
Speaker 1: We are. We yeah, we you know, we we mean

644
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:17,600
Speaker 1: it to go out and yeah, all right, I have

645
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:21,680
Speaker 1: a Bop magazine article from the early nineteen nineties. I

646
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:25,120
Speaker 1: want to see if your answers still match them today. Okay,

647
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 1: so first question, how would you describe yourself? Extremely shy?

648
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:35,839
Speaker 1: Yeah yep, quiet shy, yes, quiet shy? Oh and romantic

649
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:40,759
Speaker 1: really oh? Hello? So how do you? Oh hobbies? What

650
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:43,680
Speaker 1: were your hobbies in the early nineties? What was my

651
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:47,040
Speaker 1: hobbies back then? Let me think about that. It's my

652
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:54,200
Speaker 1: hobby now. I never really two stories. Yeah, uh, you're

653
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:56,319
Speaker 1: gonna have to tell me hobbies. I don't remember an

654
00:35:56,360 --> 00:36:01,200
Speaker 1: abby watching movies and playing with dogs. Okay, we've always

655
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:06,160
Speaker 1: had dogs. Yeah, there you got dogs, Um, romantic match?

656
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:09,759
Speaker 1: What is your romantic match? Well, I know the answer now,

657
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:15,160
Speaker 1: don't know. I was probably looking for the answer back then. True, Yeah, yeah,

658
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:19,320
Speaker 1: so well, yes I would. Yeah. I think I found

659
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:23,279
Speaker 1: my matches so well. I'm sure your match matched with

660
00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:27,400
Speaker 1: someone with a nice smile and eyes, confidence, and I'm

661
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 1: attracted to happy people. There you go, There you go.

662
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:35,600
Speaker 1: That describes describes doing perfect. I love it. I love it.

663
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:37,880
Speaker 1: Um again. I think we're gonna have to do a

664
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:39,360
Speaker 1: two parter with this because I know you have to

665
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:41,520
Speaker 1: leave pretty soon, but I would love to have you

666
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:43,520
Speaker 1: back on the show at some point in the future

667
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:46,279
Speaker 1: because you've had so much we haven't been able to

668
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:48,839
Speaker 1: talk about. Well, do you know what? Can I ask

669
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:52,520
Speaker 1: you a last question? Yes, you did that amazing song

670
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:56,640
Speaker 1: with Bat Yeah. And I've never met him, and I

671
00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:59,200
Speaker 1: always wondered what it must be like to work. Is

672
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:01,759
Speaker 1: he like a professor? He looks like a science he

673
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:05,439
Speaker 1: doesn't like a scientist. No, bt is awesome, really fun

674
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:07,840
Speaker 1: to work with it. I'm surprised that y'all haven't gotten

675
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:10,439
Speaker 1: together because I think you and Hill together would make

676
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:15,759
Speaker 1: magic Wow. Wow. I love that record so much. I

677
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:18,920
Speaker 1: remember it coming on and I actually thought it was

678
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:21,760
Speaker 1: Max Martin and I thought, oh my god, that guy's

679
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:24,359
Speaker 1: done it again. He's done it. I couldn't believe it.

680
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 1: And then I read the credits, like, oh, it's not Yeah,

681
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:29,840
Speaker 1: you know this bat guy. Yeah, And I've been a

682
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:33,160
Speaker 1: fan of his ever since, so I've always listened to

683
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:35,320
Speaker 1: his albums. All right, we gotta get you guys together.

684
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:39,920
Speaker 1: That would be Make it happen, Make it happen. I

685
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:42,600
Speaker 1: know that you are also met JC not too long ago.

686
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:45,360
Speaker 1: I heard that y'all had a really nice time in England.

687
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 1: Do you have any stories with seeing any of fun? Guy?

688
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:52,200
Speaker 1: He's so talented. Do you know what absolutely love we love?

689
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:55,960
Speaker 1: We had a he came to our show and he

690
00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 1: came to see me before and then he enjoyed it

691
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:02,000
Speaker 1: so much. He said what are you doing? And I said, well,

692
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:03,920
Speaker 1: I'm at this hotel. It was about five minutes and

693
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:06,719
Speaker 1: where he was. So he ended up coming over and

694
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 1: we sat up till four o'clock in the morning drinking.

695
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:13,240
Speaker 1: So we had a great time time talking about music. Yeah,

696
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:16,200
Speaker 1: or you're both musical genjuries, Yeah, so I know that

697
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:19,480
Speaker 1: must have been fun. All right, Gary? Oh, one last

698
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:22,040
Speaker 1: thing we forged to talk about. The Officer of the

699
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 1: Order of British Empire. Please explain that to us dumb

700
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:30,120
Speaker 1: Americans and you basically you planned the Queen's jubilee. I

701
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:34,160
Speaker 1: mean that's crazy. We I mean, I'll tweat to myself

702
00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:37,320
Speaker 1: rather than for everyone else. Loved the world, very proud

703
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:40,360
Speaker 1: to have a royal family, and we're asked about it

704
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:42,800
Speaker 1: wherever we go in the world, and we're very proud

705
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:47,120
Speaker 1: of them. And I absolutely loved the Queen. Met the

706
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:50,360
Speaker 1: Queen many times, especially in the preparation for the jubilee.

707
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:52,799
Speaker 1: We used to meet her every couple of months to

708
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:56,319
Speaker 1: talk about plans and things. An amazing human being was

709
00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:59,279
Speaker 1: she very heavily involved with the planning too, or she's

710
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 1: just like, yeah, it sounds to it. Well, my my

711
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:06,920
Speaker 1: meetings were always four minutes long. Oh well, so they

712
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:09,520
Speaker 1: said you've got four minutes. My joke used to be,

713
00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:13,319
Speaker 1: I can be done in two minutes if we if

714
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:15,839
Speaker 1: you can answer this, and and I'd always been out,

715
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:18,960
Speaker 1: I'd always be out before two minutes. She was very

716
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:22,760
Speaker 1: knew exactly what she wanted, and she was so sharp

717
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:27,640
Speaker 1: and with it. So I had many beautiful meetings with her,

718
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:32,400
Speaker 1: and I've met the King many times as well, and

719
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:37,680
Speaker 1: just very proud, um and so my, my, my, that

720
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:41,880
Speaker 1: kind of I don't usually talk about these things, but

721
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:44,480
Speaker 1: I am very proud to have an obie. It's it's

722
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:47,200
Speaker 1: it's you know, my mom came down the day I

723
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:49,560
Speaker 1: was given it by the Queen, and it's for moms

724
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:54,040
Speaker 1: to see their children. Of course, I realized it's not

725
00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 1: about me getting this, it was my mom was so

726
00:39:56,840 --> 00:40:00,319
Speaker 1: proud of thought, oh, what a brilliant thing. But say

727
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 1: history and the life that the Queen had from such

728
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:05,680
Speaker 1: an early age. I mean, even us in America, if

729
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:08,800
Speaker 1: we just admire what she did and being the face

730
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:12,279
Speaker 1: of that country, she did as good as she could do, right,

731
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:15,319
Speaker 1: I mean it's just like, yeah, and you know what

732
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:17,799
Speaker 1: if you if you if you're ever around a lot

733
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:20,920
Speaker 1: of those events that the royals, um, you know, have

734
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:24,160
Speaker 1: to attend. It's their job, isn't it. The amount of

735
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:28,759
Speaker 1: shit chat and handshaking, it must just be exhausted. They

736
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:32,680
Speaker 1: do it every day every day. Respect to you. That's

737
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:35,600
Speaker 1: their life, you know that, that's what they took on.

738
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:38,480
Speaker 1: And I just admire them so much. Yeah, I mean,

739
00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:40,279
Speaker 1: it's true. It's like we get a little taste of

740
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:42,440
Speaker 1: that with meet and greets, right, but nothing like the

741
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:46,640
Speaker 1: family has, nothing like twenty four or seven. Must be crazy.

742
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 1: And there's definitely a song in there two minutes with

743
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:51,239
Speaker 1: the Queen. I don't know, there's just work with that.

744
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 1: Maybe that could be the song you write today. Yeah,

745
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:58,160
Speaker 1: Gary Varley, thank you so much for joining us some procestives.

746
00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:01,520
Speaker 1: It's been a pleasure getting to know, fascinating and again

747
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:04,120
Speaker 1: we'll have you back, you know, months from now, so

748
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:07,279
Speaker 1: we can do it nice. Follow up. Are you in California?

749
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:10,239
Speaker 1: I'm in California, Yes, definitely. Oh well, maybe next time

750
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:14,040
Speaker 1: I'm there we should do on live. I would love

751
00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:17,439
Speaker 1: that because you're Are you here most of the time. No,

752
00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:21,560
Speaker 1: I'm usually there for like a few months per year, okay,

753
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:26,040
Speaker 1: but we we record and often right there as well.

754
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:28,480
Speaker 1: You know, we'll spend the summer there as a family

755
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:31,160
Speaker 1: and we love being in California. Well, I would love

756
00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:33,400
Speaker 1: to see you when you're back because we never leave

757
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:36,439
Speaker 1: the house now because we do have baby twins, so

758
00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 1: it would be nice to have an excuse to get

759
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 1: out for sure. I'd love that. Let me tell you

760
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:45,040
Speaker 1: both for dinner, how can everyone stay in touch with

761
00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:47,520
Speaker 1: you out there. Well, you know, I'm quite active on

762
00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 1: social media. Yeah, I quite and I quite enjoy you know.

763
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:52,680
Speaker 1: I think. I think when you from an era that

764
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:57,000
Speaker 1: we were from, we always dreamed of a time that

765
00:41:57,080 --> 00:42:02,040
Speaker 1: we could directly talk to our audience, right rather than

766
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:05,520
Speaker 1: through TV shows or journalists or whatever. And we can

767
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:08,040
Speaker 1: because you get the truth. To be able to do that,

768
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:10,560
Speaker 1: it's true, because every single article, even if it's a

769
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:14,560
Speaker 1: positive article, it's never right. Like I've never read anything

770
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:17,799
Speaker 1: about me that was one hundred percent true. But with

771
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 1: your own social media, it's like, Okay, well this is

772
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:22,360
Speaker 1: the truth, like you heard it right from the horses.

773
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:26,440
Speaker 1: That's it. And I like that. I like that. All right,

774
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:28,759
Speaker 1: thank you so much for joining us. We will be

775
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:33,400
Speaker 1: seeing you very soon. I can't wait to meet the

776
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:41,880
Speaker 1: right to give that family my love. By mister Gary Barlow.

777
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:43,560
Speaker 1: I knew he was going to be a great interview,

778
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 1: but man, oh, he's so friendly. I know, what a

779
00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:49,160
Speaker 1: nice guy. We've run into each other, you know, maybe

780
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:52,560
Speaker 1: three or four times in our lives, and he's always lovely,

781
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:55,239
Speaker 1: but we never got to really talk talk talk. I

782
00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:56,799
Speaker 1: remember when we saw him like a couple of months ago,

783
00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:58,640
Speaker 1: and it was like in the bathroom, it was like

784
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:02,279
Speaker 1: I think Ry Barlow like we're like, yeah, that is,

785
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:05,480
Speaker 1: but uh yeah, we've never been able to like really

786
00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:08,879
Speaker 1: have real discussions. Um. I really wanted to ask him,

787
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:12,640
Speaker 1: you know, my main question about the Royals, No, do

788
00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:16,040
Speaker 1: you have any relation to Lisa Barlow? And did you

789
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:18,920
Speaker 1: prepare her arrangement of a Wayne the Manger? If you

790
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:23,120
Speaker 1: said that to him, he'd be like, what the hell?

791
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 1: I really wanted to Lisa bar for anyone else listening

792
00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:28,879
Speaker 1: that has no idea Lisa Barlow well down out under

793
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:32,400
Speaker 1: that rock house, flies of Salt Lake City. Yeah, she

794
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:38,600
Speaker 1: has a beautiful voice. And she serenaded oh a Manger,

795
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:52,879
Speaker 1: No for he's bad the litologies us law his sweethead,

796
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:57,319
Speaker 1: which is like do it? I did it? I did it?

797
00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:00,400
Speaker 1: Alwayne a Manger. That's not how the melody goes, I know.

798
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:02,160
Speaker 1: But she did her own version. You know what, I

799
00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:04,680
Speaker 1: think that's probably I bet you she was in you know,

800
00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:07,480
Speaker 1: a Mormon choir, right and they you know, seeing tib

801
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:13,319
Speaker 1: tibernacle um and that was her like alto line like

802
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:16,000
Speaker 1: she has her mark was on her harmy and that's

803
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:18,759
Speaker 1: how she learned a way in a a manger. Well, I

804
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:21,040
Speaker 1: should have asked it next time. I like it. I

805
00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:23,320
Speaker 1: like that version. That's the only way I'm going to

806
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:27,239
Speaker 1: be singing that in the future to our kids, the

807
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 1: only version I know. Happy to you here. Oh my gosh.

808
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:32,319
Speaker 1: All right, guys, Well that is all the show we

809
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:34,920
Speaker 1: have for you today. Again, We're going to do a

810
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:36,640
Speaker 1: follow up with Gary because this, I mean, they have

811
00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:38,640
Speaker 1: so many questions, a lot of your fan questions. I

812
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:40,840
Speaker 1: didn't even get to get to. I know it. Maybe

813
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:43,440
Speaker 1: one day we can get Robbie Williams. Oh, no, Robbie's

814
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:45,400
Speaker 1: coming out show. I talked to Robbie. Yeah, I know

815
00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:47,640
Speaker 1: him here and there. Yeah. Yeah, he's the one I

816
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:51,160
Speaker 1: actually know from the band. Yeah, because I know his wife.

817
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:52,799
Speaker 1: She was an old friend of mine. She was my

818
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:56,160
Speaker 1: poker buddy. Good friends. They're very good friends. At least

819
00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:58,719
Speaker 1: they have really close together. All right, that is all

820
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:00,359
Speaker 1: the show we have for you. Thank you so much,

821
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:04,640
Speaker 1: my beautiful, lovely husband. Oh you're taking some advice from

822
00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:07,279
Speaker 1: Gary Barlow. You know, the truth did inspire me. His

823
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:09,879
Speaker 1: love for his family inspired me. I'm gonna start loving

824
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:12,720
Speaker 1: you a little more. Oh, finally it took Gary Barlow

825
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:17,960
Speaker 1: to make him love me. Oh that's a song to

826
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:22,439
Speaker 1: Lance was coming up with songs before we leave. Lance

827
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:23,880
Speaker 1: is like, you know, I think he has a song

828
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:26,840
Speaker 1: writing bug in him. Well, we were driving quickly, we

829
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:29,600
Speaker 1: were driving home last night and we're on Moholland and

830
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:32,240
Speaker 1: like on Mholland Drive, there's like these little overlook areas

831
00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:36,759
Speaker 1: where cars parked. Look at the views well background after sunset. Yes,

832
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:39,319
Speaker 1: you're not allowed to park because it's dangerous, right, but

833
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 1: it's been very cold and rainy, and so it's you know,

834
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:45,080
Speaker 1: it's cold, so cool. Yeah, so um. Every time we'd

835
00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:46,839
Speaker 1: passed that, there would be some cards there with like

836
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:51,000
Speaker 1: foggy windows because it's probably raining and it's foggy because

837
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:54,439
Speaker 1: it winds. Foggy windows. He's like, oh, I'm gonna write

838
00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:55,960
Speaker 1: that as a song, and he meant it. He made

839
00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:58,520
Speaker 1: me text the phrase five started. I've already started writing

840
00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:00,719
Speaker 1: foggy windows and it was great. You some lyrics in

841
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:03,600
Speaker 1: the car that really just spoke to me. I know

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