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Speaker 1: This is Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre. What is up,

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Speaker 1: party people, It's me Jason McIntyre, Straight Fire or Thursday,

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Speaker 1: August twelve. Great commentary on the podcast with Albert Brier.

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Speaker 1: Thank you guys for the props. It's always good to

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Speaker 1: hear when you like, uh interview and don't and listen.

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Speaker 1: Some of you guys think, hey, man, you're too chummy

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Speaker 1: with these guys. You're asking softballs. I get that. That's fine.

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Speaker 1: I get those d M suh. But I try to

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Speaker 1: keep it real and ask honest questions that I care

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Speaker 1: about and I think the audience will care about. And

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Speaker 1: we've got one of those today. Shaun King. Not that

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Speaker 1: Shaun King, the rabble rousing political guy who gets in

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Speaker 1: all these fights on Twitter. No, the Seaun King. The

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Speaker 1: former quarterback of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. He was drafted

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Speaker 1: in the second round. He played with John Gruden, got

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Speaker 1: in some arguments with John Gruden. We'll talk about that. Uh.

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Speaker 1: He just got a job at Visan. Uh. He got

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Speaker 1: into the gambling game. You guys, don't. We talk about

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Speaker 1: it all the time, all the time, the gambling gold rush.

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Speaker 1: It's pretty cool. Uh. Shaun King is now the host

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Speaker 1: of the Nightcap weeknights at ten pm Eastern on Visa.

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Speaker 1: Pretty cool. I think you guys are gonna dig it.

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Speaker 1: He is a super nice guy, friendly and I may

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Speaker 1: meet up with him in Vegas in a couple of weeks.

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Speaker 1: But before we get to the interview, just two quick notes.

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Speaker 1: First of all, this Dak Prescott. Uh. Second, m R.

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Speaker 1: I obviously not ideal if you're a Cowboys fan. Um,

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Speaker 1: I listen. I do wonder how much of this is

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Speaker 1: for Hard Knocks hype. Honestly, I can't imagine that the

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Speaker 1: guy got injured chucking hail Mary's as they said on

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Speaker 1: Hard Knocks, or all alleged on Hard Knocks. Um, that

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Speaker 1: he really got injured. I mean, this is the guy

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Speaker 1: second Mr. We'll see. Uh, there was a big injury

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Speaker 1: in the NFL Listen. Um, the Ravens did a lot

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Speaker 1: to enhance their receiver corps. They added um Sammy Watkins,

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Speaker 1: week one, and um, that's not ideal because I'm I'm

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Speaker 1: kind of pulling for Lamar Jackson despite him getting COVID twice.

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Speaker 1: And um, he's saying some kind of silly things leading up. Sorry, sorry,

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Speaker 1: I had to go there. It's listen to what he said.

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Speaker 1: It's silly. Um. The Baltimore Ravens are located as close

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Speaker 1: that over uh And one final note before we get

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Speaker 1: to Shaun King. I know so many of you took

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Speaker 1: an interest in my car story, the hit and run

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Speaker 1: me going deep on this stuff. So the contractor for

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Speaker 1: And they goes, hey, um, we we saw the incident start.

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Speaker 1: Let's get back to sports and Sean King, former NFL quarterback.

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Speaker 1: Jason likes to think he knows every thing when it

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Speaker 1: former quarterback of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, played other teams

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Speaker 1: not COVID. It's the fact that it's a seller's market

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Speaker 1: fifteen years. One offseason changed their entire narrative. Well, what

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Speaker 1: player really? I mean, let's let's give the credit to

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Speaker 1: Tom and no disrespect to Jamis, although it is disrespectful

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Speaker 1: to Jamis because he was terrible. But anyways, go ahead,

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Speaker 1: everybody's looking for their Tom Brady. Sometimes it's not the

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Speaker 1: quarterback positions. Sometimes another position. Everybody's looking for that transcendent

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Speaker 1: player that can change the conversation nationally regarding their organization.

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Speaker 1: That's why you see so many quarterbacks taking high in

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Speaker 1: the draft. I mean, you can't tell me that Zach

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Speaker 1: Wilson is the second best player in this past year's draft,

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Speaker 1: but the Jets are looking for that transcendent player. You

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Speaker 1: can't tell me Trey Lands is the third best player

435
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Speaker 1: in this draft, but they're looking for those those guys. Sadly.

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Speaker 1: I'm a Jets fan, longtime Jets fans, long season brother.

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Speaker 1: Hey listen, I don't want to read the reports about

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Speaker 1: Zach Wilson's struggling against one thing. The one thing that

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Speaker 1: America is safe from. It is going to bars. It

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Speaker 1: will be, it will be none of that going on.

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Speaker 1: I'm just telling you that pick, that pick before we

442
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Speaker 1: move on Jason is gonna age terribly. I'm on record

443
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Speaker 1: it saying Kellen Man or Kyle Trash will be better.

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Speaker 1: And write that down. Write that down. So you were

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Speaker 1: in Tampa last year, yes, And I'm trying to think

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Speaker 1: why you make any trips we played We played them

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Speaker 1: when I was at USU, but Trash was not the starter.

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Speaker 1: Which is one of my huge issues with I mean,

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Speaker 1: Zack was not the start, which is one of my

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Speaker 1: huge issues with Zack. The only year that he was

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Speaker 1: great at b YU was the Bubble year when they

452
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Speaker 1: played no non power, no power of five teams. To me,

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Speaker 1: if a player and I went to two lane, so

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Speaker 1: I'm talking about myself as well. To me at that position,

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Speaker 1: if a guy comes from a coastal Carolina b y

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Speaker 1: U a non power five elite program, I think you

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Speaker 1: should have at least two years of dominance to think

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Speaker 1: that he can make the transition and be great right away.

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Speaker 1: In the NFL, Okay so Trey Lands, Carson Wentz. Both

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Speaker 1: of those guys went super high. Joe Burrow. What about

461
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Speaker 1: Joe Burrow? But Joe Burrow played the l S shoe

462
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Speaker 1: and he broke every record known a man. So well,

463
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Speaker 1: he was not good, but we had a larger sample size.

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Speaker 1: It got better. It got with a actual offensive coordinator

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Speaker 1: instead of playing the tiger ball they were playing his

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Speaker 1: first year at l s U where they tossed the

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Speaker 1: ball is they're running uh inside zone? Remember that played

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Speaker 1: on the gold line. They always run. The coaching got

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Speaker 1: better with Joe Brady doubt. By the way, is Joe

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Speaker 1: Brady the next Bengals coach in two two who? I

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Speaker 1: think it makes sense? Right? I was, I was actually

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Speaker 1: I was actually in Carolina for the Bill Watson turnship

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Speaker 1: for the entire month of I want to say, well,

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Speaker 1: it was April or May. It was May, and uh,

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Speaker 1: he's the one that outstanding John and Sam Donald. I

476
00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:08,639
Speaker 1: think it's gonna surprise people if they can protect it.

477
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Speaker 1: They have some question marks and panthers on the offensive line,

478
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Speaker 1: but they have as good of a skill position group

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Speaker 1: of guys that people don't know about d J. Moore,

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Speaker 1: Robbie Anderson, Christian McCaffrey. I mean, they have some guys

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Speaker 1: they're like to me, if if they can protect Sam,

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Speaker 1: they have a chance to be good because they're really

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Speaker 1: good on defense. We had Albert Brier on this podcast

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Speaker 1: yesterday and he said that, um, you know, keep an

485
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Speaker 1: eye on Carolina making a move on Deshaun Watson. Carolina

486
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Speaker 1: and Philly are like kind of behind the scenes, really

487
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Speaker 1: really plugging hard. Donald's kind of a stopgap. But I'm

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Speaker 1: with you, like potential and let me be clear, Deshaun

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Speaker 1: Watson is a dude. Yeah, I want to ask you

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Speaker 1: a question. I know you're interviewing me, I'm on your show,

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Speaker 1: But do the Texas not get the Donkey of the

492
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Speaker 1: Decade award, Like they could have gotten a top ten

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Speaker 1: pick prior to the draft for Deshaun Watson and being

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Speaker 1: able to draft one of the young quarterbacks that just

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Speaker 1: came in this class and reset the entire organization. They

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Speaker 1: don't trade him. Now they're in this position where all

497
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Speaker 1: the quarterback needy teams just took quarterbacks in the first round.

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Speaker 1: But there's I mean, listen, there's still options like the

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Speaker 1: Indianapolis Colts Wentz already hurt. This is like a can

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Speaker 1: you make it happen in a year forty? Not the

501
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Speaker 1: forty Niners? But like who else is out there? Carolina, Philadelphia,

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Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts Um, I mean, there's a couple other teams,

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Speaker 1: but it's Deshaun Watson's the top ten quarterback right absolutely.

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Speaker 1: I think before the draft, Denver, what about Denver in

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Speaker 1: the a f C West Water a lot? Yeah, but

506
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Speaker 1: what what what capital do they have to give back now?

507
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Speaker 1: And I'm talking more Tauson Chubb and whatever picks you want.

508
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Speaker 1: I mean, you gotta get a quarterback so I guess

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Speaker 1: the other question is if they can't trade Deshaun Watson,

510
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Speaker 1: who's the day one starter for the Tech I think

511
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Speaker 1: it's Davis Mills, Tyrod Taylor, Tyrod Taylor. That's an ugly situation. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't Maybe he won't be on the side. Maybe

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Speaker 1: they'll ask him to not come to games. Uh, because

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Speaker 1: it's a little bit dicey with with the whole legal aspect.

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Speaker 1: to some other teams here real quick. In the NFC.

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Speaker 1: I I kind of I'm irrationally into the Dallas Cowboys

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Speaker 1: at this point. I know that we hear that every year,

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Speaker 1: and I don't want to hear like the health argument

523
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Speaker 1: because like, I don't know, I feel like all we

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Speaker 1: do now Sean is like, oh, well, if the Lakers

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Speaker 1: are healthy or if the Nets are healthy, well, if

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Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys offensive, like, well, anybody is not healthy,

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Speaker 1: they have no chance. But assuming health to everybody who's healthy, now,

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Speaker 1: why shouldn't the Dallas Cowboys be one of the best

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Speaker 1: teams in the NFC because they haven't fixed their issues

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Speaker 1: on defense. I mean that secondary was the worst secondary

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Speaker 1: I've seen in a long time in the National the Jets.

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Speaker 1: You didn't watch my Jets secondary show well on a

533
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Speaker 1: team with expectations, and they went out and drafted all linebackers.

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Speaker 1: So unless the linebackers are gonna play corner and safety,

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Speaker 1: I still think they're gonna have the same issues they

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Speaker 1: had last year. You know. Also, and it's kind of

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Speaker 1: unfortunate for Dallas because they put so much draft capital

538
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Speaker 1: into their offensive line, the time periods haven't meshed. Now.

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Speaker 1: They're really good at the skill positions, and I think

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Speaker 1: they have a really good quarterback, but the offensive line

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Speaker 1: is old and aging now. Yeah, so it'll be Henry.

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Speaker 1: You're right, So we'll see can they outscore people? Will

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Speaker 1: find out really soon. Tampa Bay Bucks. You were in

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Speaker 1: Tampa last year when they made the run. First of all,

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Speaker 1: I'm curious your thoughts on Jamis when he was the

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Speaker 1: quarterback in Tampa, because there was always expectations. He had

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Speaker 1: Mike Evans, he had god what they had weapons. He

548
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Speaker 1: put up monster numbers, but not always like good numbers. Well,

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Speaker 1: I think the best thing that happened to Jamis was

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Speaker 1: getting benched and having to sit behind Drew Brees. That's

551
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Speaker 1: the first time he's really got to learn from a

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Speaker 1: Hall of Fame caliber player. Jamis has always been the guy.

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Speaker 1: He's never really had to operate with the understanding that

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Speaker 1: my mistakes have legitimate consequences and repercussions. Because if you remember,

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Speaker 1: he threw all these interceptions in Florida State, but he's

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Speaker 1: so talented they were able to overcome them in the

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Speaker 1: second half when they won national championship. He won a Heisman.

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Speaker 1: Same thing in Temple, he threw a lot of picks.

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Speaker 1: We throw the five thousand yards and thirty something touchdowns.

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Speaker 1: He was thirty three, if I'm not mistaken. On top

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Speaker 1: of my head. So watching breathes and how he approached

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Speaker 1: the game weekend and week out, how he interacted with

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Speaker 1: Sean Payton, how he manufactured big plays by just doing

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Speaker 1: the right things as opposed to forcing the ball. I

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Speaker 1: think it's gonna be a great learning experience for Jamis,

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Speaker 1: and I think Jamie is gonna have a really good

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Speaker 1: year this year coming up. So that sounds good and

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Speaker 1: I would agree with all of it because the offensive

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Speaker 1: line is good. But have you looked at the Saints

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Speaker 1: wide receiver depth chart with this Michael Thomas surgery. I mean, Sean,

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Speaker 1: we're talking about Marquette, Marquez Callaway, tre Kuon Smith, somebody

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Speaker 1: named Deonte Harris. Like Tie Montgomery got injured today, he

573
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Speaker 1: was carted off like Chris Hogan is on the depth chart.

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Speaker 1: I thought he was still playing lacrosse. Here's what's interesting.

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Speaker 1: The one position I don't worry about in the National

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Speaker 1: Football league's wide receiver. I think that is the deepest,

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Speaker 1: most talented single position in the entire NFL. I think

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Speaker 1: there are a lot of second and third string receivers

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Speaker 1: that no one's ever heard of that are capable of

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Speaker 1: being first first, first stringers and if you're even the opportunity,

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Speaker 1: and this is where I kind of lean on Sean Pate,

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Speaker 1: they always reinvent themselves. I mean, if you look at

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Speaker 1: his tenure in New Orleans, they've been good every year offensively,

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Speaker 1: and it's always a revolving door of the names at

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Speaker 1: the offensive positions, but the results are the same. So

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Speaker 1: this is kind of where you give him the benefit

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Speaker 1: of the doubt that they have some young guys that

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Speaker 1: are ready to break out and haveing to minut season. Um,

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Speaker 1: I am curious to back to Tampa when Jamis was

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Speaker 1: the quarterback. Right they bring in Brady? Did you think, hey,

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Speaker 1: we can go to the super Bowl? I think they

592
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:23,080
Speaker 1: had ten straight years no playoff appearances. Um, did you

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Speaker 1: think super Bowl was possible? No? And I think they

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Speaker 1: made the right decision because of what they were gonna

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Speaker 1: be forced to pay James See that played into it.

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Speaker 1: Jamis was in a contract year now, so they had

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Speaker 1: to make a decision from a compensation standpoint. And listen,

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Speaker 1: the the going raid is the going raid. You know.

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Speaker 1: That's the one thing about professional sports that I wish

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Speaker 1: fans would understand. If the starting quarterback in the NFL

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Speaker 1: is making thirty million a year and your guy is

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Speaker 1: up and he's your starting quarterback, that he's gonna get

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Speaker 1: somewhere around what they're going raid is And so being

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Speaker 1: able to bring Tom Brady and who really revitalized re

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Speaker 1: Enter guys, not just the organization, but the community's commitment

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Speaker 1: to supporting the Bucks. I think from a business standpoint

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00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:08,560
Speaker 1: and the on field standpoint, the Bucks had to make

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Speaker 1: that choice. So the Bucks, Uh, it sounds like there

609
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:15,240
Speaker 1: was like that a come to Jesus moment after the

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Speaker 1: loss in the regular season to the Chiefs, Uh and

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Speaker 1: Brady won whatever tug of war there was with Arians

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Speaker 1: over how to run the offense. They didn't lose a

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Speaker 1: game after that. They ran the table in the regular season,

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Speaker 1: three straight on the road, in the playoffs and the

615
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Speaker 1: Super Bowl. Yeah, there is some undefeated Bucks talk this year.

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Speaker 1: I think I looked in their favorite in every game

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Speaker 1: except one. I believe it's Week three. I mean, listen,

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Speaker 1: you're gonna get this question a lot if they start hot.

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Speaker 1: Being a gambler guy in Vegas, can this team go

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Speaker 1: undefeating the regular season and the tam Bay Buccaneers go

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Speaker 1: undefeated in the regular sets are very long yet, so

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Speaker 1: if you believe they go seventeen and oh, you should

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Speaker 1: come to the circle and get down on that. Jason.

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Speaker 1: I think, I just I personally think it's worth you know,

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Speaker 1: a hundred or two hundred dollars, you know, just in

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Speaker 1: case do I think it's likely? No. For one, they

627
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Speaker 1: have to stay healthy, right, you know, I think that's

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Speaker 1: the number one thing. As talented as they are on paper,

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Speaker 1: they have a lot of guys over thirty, So the question.

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Speaker 1: The question also becomes if they get out the gates fast,

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Speaker 1: if they're in a dominant position the last quarter of

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Speaker 1: the season, does Bruce rest some of those established, well

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Speaker 1: known guys, and those are things you do Bruce rest guys.

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Speaker 1: I think you need to rephrase that. Does Tom Brady

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Speaker 1: allow him to rest guys when he's like, yo, we

636
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Speaker 1: can go undefeated. I almost did this in New England.

637
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Speaker 1: And remember they I think it was a game against

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Speaker 1: the Giants where they people were like, oh, they're gonna

639
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:47,840
Speaker 1: rest guys, and they didn't rest guys. The Giants almost

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Speaker 1: got him. Do you remember that game? Was it was?

641
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:53,920
Speaker 1: It was a really good game. The Giants end up

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Speaker 1: getting him in the Super Bowl. But I mean, listen

643
00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 1: to what they played down the stretch. Okay, resting guys.

644
00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:03,480
Speaker 1: They're final four games at home against New Orleans. I

645
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:04,840
Speaker 1: don't know what you think of the Saints. I don't

646
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:09,680
Speaker 1: think much at Carolina. At my Jets versus Carolina, I mean,

647
00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:12,120
Speaker 1: you can rest guys and still clean sweep those games.

648
00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:15,520
Speaker 1: Now early on, it's tough versus Dallas at the Rams

649
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Speaker 1: at New England. If they get through that first month

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Speaker 1: I think, look out, that's why I believe fifty when

651
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:22,680
Speaker 1: there's a lot of value right now on that shown.

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00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:26,280
Speaker 1: I agree. I know I've already put my futures been

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00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:27,959
Speaker 1: in on the Bucks winning the Super Bowl. I think

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Speaker 1: plus eight fifty is as good as you're gonna get

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Speaker 1: from a value standpoint, because that's only going to go down,

656
00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 1: right if they if they, if they're good, it's going down.

657
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:37,120
Speaker 1: It's not going up. So I went ahead and take that.

658
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Speaker 1: I might put something on the fifty one, but it's

659
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Speaker 1: just like for for giggles, it's not like it's just

660
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Speaker 1: it's a lottery ticket. Where are you, by the way,

661
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:48,440
Speaker 1: on the NFC versus the a f C um, I

662
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 1: feel like the a f C is just way more stacked.

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Speaker 1: I think this year. Yes, I think from a team standpoint,

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Speaker 1: the difference to me is the NFC has a lot

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00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:01,440
Speaker 1: of star power a quarterback, but not much else or

666
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 1: controversy around the start like Russell Wilson and Aric Rodgers

667
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:08,319
Speaker 1: and there's drama. Oh, I just thought of another one.

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00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:11,480
Speaker 1: So you were as a rookie, you sat, I believe

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Speaker 1: for the first was an eight weeks until he got

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Speaker 1: hurt or whatever. He broke his column on at Seattle

671
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 1: and I think I went four or five and one

672
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 1: Downard strikes from where are you on a quarterback sitting

673
00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:28,040
Speaker 1: early to get up to speed of the NFL game?

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Speaker 1: And I'm using justin fields as an example. My guy,

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Speaker 1: Jack Wilson with the Jets doesn't have a choice. He's

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00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:36,200
Speaker 1: got to start. But there is talk about maybe they

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Speaker 1: trade folds and make Dalton the backup. I don't know

678
00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:43,600
Speaker 1: on justin fields, where are you giving your quarterback experience? Well,

679
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Speaker 1: if I was a shock, if if I owned the

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00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 1: Chicago Bears, justin fields will be my day one starter.

681
00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:53,000
Speaker 1: If I coached the Chicago Bears, I would not play

682
00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:55,759
Speaker 1: justin fields until the second half of the season. And

683
00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:58,279
Speaker 1: here's why. If I'm the owner listening, I want the

684
00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:01,040
Speaker 1: guy to get experienced. You know, I'll make a decision

685
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Speaker 1: on who's gonna coach the team later. If I'm the

686
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:05,799
Speaker 1: head coach, I want to be able to go to

687
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Speaker 1: the owner and say, well, we're gonna go to the

688
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:09,720
Speaker 1: young quarterback now in the second half of the season

689
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Speaker 1: if the first half didn't go like we wanted, because

690
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:13,759
Speaker 1: I want to save my job. So I think there's

691
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:17,360
Speaker 1: some different dynamics at play within that organization because that

692
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 1: coaches on the hot seat is in trouble. I mean,

693
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:23,240
Speaker 1: so we they've been trying to fire Naggie for probably

694
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:27,080
Speaker 1: two years now. So he's like and he fell asked

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00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:31,080
Speaker 1: backward into the playoffs last year with Drabs. I forget

696
00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 1: they were even in the playoffs. Me too, Like he's

697
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:36,920
Speaker 1: trying to make sure he has job security. But I

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00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 1: think if you're doing what's best for the organization, because

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00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:40,880
Speaker 1: I think Justin Fields is one of those guys that

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Speaker 1: people found some time, things are dislike for no reason

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00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:49,239
Speaker 1: post you know, college career. You know, I'm looking at

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00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 1: They open against the Rams on Sunday night football. That's

703
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:56,880
Speaker 1: a tall order for Justin Fields. After that though, Bengals, Browns, Lions,

704
00:35:56,880 --> 00:36:00,120
Speaker 1: those are not good defense is Vegas, oh geez. So

705
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 1: after the Rams they played four like bottom ten defenses.

706
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:07,480
Speaker 1: So maybe maybe Justin Fields does win the job. He should.

707
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:10,319
Speaker 1: He's talented. I mean, he's played at a high level

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00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:12,920
Speaker 1: on a big stage. I'm a fan. I mean, I

709
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:15,400
Speaker 1: didn't like the smearing they were doing him. He has

710
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:19,399
Speaker 1: the best armed talent of all three quarterbacks there. He's

711
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 1: the best athlete of all three quarterbacks there. He's the

712
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:25,880
Speaker 1: most physically gifted of all three quarterbacks there. This is

713
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:28,880
Speaker 1: not a season where Chicago's picked to win the NFC

714
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:32,279
Speaker 1: North or to be a Super Bowl contender, So why

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Speaker 1: wouldn't you not go with the young quarterback? All right,

716
00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:37,759
Speaker 1: we'll wrap up with this Sean, Uh, do you have

717
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:40,400
Speaker 1: a super Bowl value bet? Obviously you said you have

718
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:43,760
Speaker 1: the Bucks, But is there a team with some value

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00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:47,160
Speaker 1: you know, maybe later down the list to who you

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00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 1: think could could surprise because I will say I don't

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00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:54,480
Speaker 1: think the Bucks were favored last year early or even

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00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:57,560
Speaker 1: like top three or four, right, I think because of

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00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:01,399
Speaker 1: b I think they I think they were like third, yeah,

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Speaker 1: second or third. I would say both teams are in

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00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:05,480
Speaker 1: the a f C. For me from a value standpoint,

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00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:09,520
Speaker 1: that would be Tennessee and Cleveland Tennessee. Wow, Okay, you

727
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 1: gotta explain that one. I don't know anybody who likes him.

728
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:14,520
Speaker 1: I just think and Julio Jones to that offense gives

729
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:16,719
Speaker 1: them a lot more versatility, you know, with a j

730
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 1: On the other side, with Derrick Henry be havning't done

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Speaker 1: what you know he's done the last two or three years.

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00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 1: So now all they have to be is a little

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Speaker 1: above average defensively, and I think they get more back

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Speaker 1: to what they were two years ago on defense. I

735
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:33,279
Speaker 1: think if they get in the playoffs, they're tough out people.

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Speaker 1: People forget they were ahead of Kansas City two years

737
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 1: ago in the NFC Championship game in the second half

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Speaker 1: of that game. Casey had to come back and win it.

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00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:43,359
Speaker 1: So a lot of those components are still there. There's

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00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:47,879
Speaker 1: a lot of value there Cleveland. The talent is there.

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Speaker 1: If Baker Mayfield takes the next step, the next jump,

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00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 1: sort of like Car, then I think Cleveland has a

743
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:56,880
Speaker 1: lot of the pieces that you need, especially getting O'Dell

744
00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:59,440
Speaker 1: back to go with what is probably the second best

745
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 1: running aim in the NFL right now, and a defense

746
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:06,480
Speaker 1: that's really salty and difficult to go against. Yeah. Well,

747
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 1: I mean the only the issue with Cleveland is a

748
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:11,239
Speaker 1: everybody and their mom likes them, uh and be They're

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Speaker 1: gonna have like seven or eight new starters on defense

750
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:16,919
Speaker 1: and there could be two rookies, which that take could

751
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:18,759
Speaker 1: take a little to get time to getting used to

752
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:23,279
Speaker 1: in the schedules real difficult. I think they go later

753
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:26,719
Speaker 1: in the season. Ravens Bye week Ravens like that is

754
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:29,920
Speaker 1: just unbelievably difficult, and that division is super tough. But

755
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:32,440
Speaker 1: the Titans Division is a joke, right, Yeah, pretty much.

756
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:34,360
Speaker 1: And I'm a guy that's done really looking to strength

757
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:37,400
Speaker 1: of schedule in the NFL because of the parody just

758
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:40,000
Speaker 1: from year to year. There's so much parody in the NFL.

759
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:42,719
Speaker 1: It's not like you look at the SEC schedule like

760
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:45,880
Speaker 1: you know, when you go to Vanderbilt, that's a victory.

761
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:51,440
Speaker 1: Like absolutely, Houston Texas are gonna upset somebody. Detroit Lions

762
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:54,200
Speaker 1: are gonna upset somebody Like the NFL's it's a different

763
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:57,000
Speaker 1: animal from a parody standpoint. So I really try not

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00:38:57,040 --> 00:39:00,480
Speaker 1: to get too locked into strength of schedule from you. Yeah,

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00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:03,160
Speaker 1: it's funny you say that. I mean, listen, my Jets

766
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 1: cost themselves Trevor Lawrence by beating the Browns. Now. I

767
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 1: think the Browns like every receiver on the roster ade

768
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:11,040
Speaker 1: COVID or something in that game. Um, but yeah, you're right,

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00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:14,200
Speaker 1: upsets do happen. Um, all right, Uh listen, Sean, this

770
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:17,160
Speaker 1: is great. Um. I wonder how life is going to

771
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:18,360
Speaker 1: be like for you in Vegas? What is it? A

772
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:20,840
Speaker 1: hundred ten degrees there today, and you know it was

773
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:22,800
Speaker 1: hot in Tampa, but at least you had a breeze.

774
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:27,319
Speaker 1: You know this this heat is like oppressive heat. Yeah,

775
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:29,160
Speaker 1: he was like a golf course. Or do you at

776
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:33,040
Speaker 1: least have like a nice shelter out there anywhere? Yeah,

777
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:35,879
Speaker 1: we got some places we can hide, but I try

778
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:42,600
Speaker 1: to stay indoors and only go outside were necessary. Oh god, alright, man, Hey,

779
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:45,480
Speaker 1: congrats on a good career. You got a Super Bowl ring,

780
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:48,160
Speaker 1: and and good luck at Visa in with the gambling.

781
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:49,520
Speaker 1: I'm sure I'll see you there in a couple of weeks.

782
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 1: Just let me know. Man, we gotta do this again.

783
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:54,000
Speaker 1: Thanks for having met, all right, Sean, thanks a lot, man. Okay,