1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:05,160 Speaker 1: Hello the Internet. Yes, it's me. That means it's substitute time. 2 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:08,160 Speaker 1: And it's season two, twenty eight, episode one of the 3 00:00:08,280 --> 00:00:12,479 Speaker 1: Daily that guy stopped production by Heart Radio. This is 4 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:16,239 Speaker 1: the podcast where we take a deep dive into America's 5 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:21,680 Speaker 1: shared consciousness. It is Monday, March fourteen two. We all 6 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:24,239 Speaker 1: know what that is. That means, it's sucking Pie Day 7 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:26,439 Speaker 1: three one four. Put it in the air, whether or 8 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:30,440 Speaker 1: not you're celebrating the mathematical concept of pie or you 9 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:33,959 Speaker 1: love a wonderful baked dessert as pie. I shout out 10 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 1: to this guy used to play soccer with On Pie Day. 11 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 1: He would have a party. He was like an engineer, 12 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 1: but also make a like a spread of pies. Always 13 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:44,960 Speaker 1: missed out on it because it didn't feel like the 14 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 1: event for me, but I respected. I am Miles great. 15 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:50,920 Speaker 1: Like I said, A k a oh, let's try this, 16 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 1: A k A. I wish you would eat from the 17 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:57,800 Speaker 1: right and my friend, you could take the time to 18 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 1: peel it how the banana gods intend and if you 19 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 1: want to start at the stem, I won't understand. And 20 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 1: and that was in reference to the past guests talking 21 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 1: about eating apples from the bottom, eating bananas from the bottom. Okay, 22 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 1: like these are apparently these are new techniques of eating 23 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 1: these fruits. I did not know. Shout out to Scouting 24 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:25,280 Speaker 1: Coop on the discoord. But let's not distract from me. 25 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 1: Let's talk about today's guest go host, one of my favorites. 26 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:32,320 Speaker 1: I don't even think I need to introduce this person. 27 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 1: I'll just say, what do you hear that? Ma? Was 28 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:39,039 Speaker 1: that a goat? I don't know. Maybe it is. Maybe 29 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 1: it's one of my favorite co hosts and people in podcasting, 30 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 1: the just uber talented producer, host, media critic, media everything, 31 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 1: lives and breeds everything media and helps me look good. 32 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 1: Without further ado, please welcome my guest host, Joel Won. 33 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 1: Let's up, Miles. How you doing great? I'm great. Great. 34 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 1: It's PI Day. You know it is pie Day, a blessing. 35 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:10,520 Speaker 1: Unto us, it gets your cheap pie because it's out there. Yeah, 36 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:12,640 Speaker 1: I mean, i'd imagine, right, like, shouldn't like a Marie 37 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 1: coundars do something like they all do it. Listen, if 38 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:18,919 Speaker 1: you're near a milk bar, you can go in you 39 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:21,240 Speaker 1: get some of the milk far pie for like I 40 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 1: think they're for three dollars and fourteen cents or something like, 41 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 1: oh you can that sugar bumb for three dollars and 42 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:31,240 Speaker 1: fourteen cents, Go live your best life. I had I'm 43 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 1: not okay, full disclosure. I had one of the milk 44 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 1: bar pies, which use let's let's not forget the problem. 45 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 1: Remember we're not gonna talk about it. But I had 46 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 1: one of those, and after eating a slice of that pie, 47 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 1: I had a cookie and the cookie tasted like salt 48 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 1: because my my like sugar receptors are so blown out 49 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 1: from having one slice of that pie, I could only 50 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:55,959 Speaker 1: taste the salt in a cookie. Anyway, shout out to that. 51 00:02:56,680 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 1: But without further ado, let's welcome today's guest. You know, 52 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 1: it's not often this podcast is graced with you know, 53 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 1: Emmy and Peabody Award winning producer, writer's podcast talents, and 54 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:15,919 Speaker 1: even people with wonderful accents from abroad. I am thrilled 55 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 1: to welcome today's guest. You might know them. Actually they've 56 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:21,520 Speaker 1: been on the show before, back then for you know, 57 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:24,240 Speaker 1: working on a show called Forgotten Women of Wires. And 58 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 1: also you might remember them from the show Sleepwalkers. Okay, 59 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 1: also another I heard joint, But without further ado, please 60 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 1: Welcome to the stage. Mr oz Wolla Sha hiy hi Miles. 61 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:40,120 Speaker 1: Nice to be here again. Hi Joel's very nice to 62 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 1: be on the show with you as well. Thank you 63 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 1: for having me. I've been dusting off those those Emmys 64 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 1: and Peabody's in preparations. There you go, just looking at them. 65 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 1: I think there's a twinkle in your eye, or rather 66 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 1: or rather entertaining twinkle as you listed off my ten 67 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 1: year old credits. Better. Those are awards. Don't be modested, 68 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Ten years ago? What was 69 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 1: I doing? I got to talk about that. I got 70 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 1: a video on the front page of BuzzFeed because I 71 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 1: got so fucked up drinking boxed wine. You know that's 72 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 1: that's pretty good that I was hit. Yeah, you can't 73 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 1: find that video on the internet anymore. Oh, look at 74 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 1: crafty scrub my worst mistakes from the internet. They're out there. 75 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:27,480 Speaker 1: As I can tell, you're over the awards because you're 76 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:29,360 Speaker 1: the first person who has those awards that hasn't had 77 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 1: them framed in the background of your image. Every time 78 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 1: I have award winning person, they're liking these are my awards, 79 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:37,280 Speaker 1: just casually placed behind me. Didn't set it out that way. 80 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:40,160 Speaker 1: That's where they live. Oh, thank you, thank you for 81 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:42,599 Speaker 1: giving me the favor of telling the listeners I don't. 82 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 1: I don't have those behind me. I do have some 83 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:47,480 Speaker 1: very strange family photographs as an old tennis balls, because 84 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 1: even two and a half years into COVID, I haven't 85 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 1: figured out how to do that elegant zoom behind bluff me, 86 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 1: and so everyone gets to look deep into my I 87 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:57,600 Speaker 1: think in a way that's its own thing, right, Like 88 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 1: you see people with really well you know, designed, intentionally 89 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 1: placed backdrops furthers because I get it. We live in 90 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 1: a zoom world and we have ship like room raiders 91 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:08,839 Speaker 1: where people will be like, look at this person is wrong? 92 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 1: But what the I mean? If anything, I feel like 93 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 1: it should represent who you are. And if you look 94 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:17,360 Speaker 1: at my background background, you know I don't. I'm not 95 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 1: really that instant designing the background. In fact, I'm just 96 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:23,600 Speaker 1: some guy in a room that's kind of dirty. So 97 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:26,480 Speaker 1: that's who I am. Any do you have any love 98 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 1: for pie oz on pie day three? On four? I mean, 99 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 1: funny enough, I didn't put two and two together. I 100 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 1: didn't know what you were talking about, but I was 101 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 1: smiling and nodding as all good oh yeah, I guess 102 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 1: it's slowly out. Yeah, because I guess you do it 103 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:43,600 Speaker 1: different in the UK would be fourteen three yeah exactly, yeah, yeah, 104 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:45,040 Speaker 1: But I but Pie Day. I mean, it's good to 105 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 1: Pie Day and Friday coincide because I think Piday would 106 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 1: feel a little bit sad if it wasn't also Friday. 107 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:55,480 Speaker 1: So oh, technically this is Monday. I don't nothing, the 108 00:05:55,560 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 1: secret nothing to brighten up on Monday like day exactly exactly. Well, then, 109 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:04,360 Speaker 1: I guess like in the UK, because since the day 110 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 1: comes before the month, today will be one for three, 111 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 1: I love you day. Yeah, think about that we did? 112 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 1: Did y'all not do that in the UK? One for three? 113 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 1: Like I'm sure I'm sure the other kids did. But yeah, sure. 114 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 1: I think this is like old person pager code talk, 115 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:24,800 Speaker 1: because that's where it first started. You'd be like yo, 116 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:27,039 Speaker 1: and then my, my, my little shorty in sixth grade 117 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 1: would hit my little page here with one for three. 118 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:31,839 Speaker 1: He did not. I I was a page here in sixth grade. 119 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 1: I did. I said, I don't want anything except a 120 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 1: pager and my grandma, come on you, granny rest in peace. 121 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 1: She got me that because that's what granny's are supposed 122 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:45,160 Speaker 1: to do. They spoil you even though, like what does 123 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 1: he need a pager for? He's like in school, he 124 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:51,360 Speaker 1: needs a page And I'm like, thank you. Gotta love you, 125 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 1: gotta love the grandparents. Okay, Oz, we're going to get 126 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 1: to know you a little bit better, aside from the 127 00:06:56,279 --> 00:06:58,920 Speaker 1: fact that you're a humble, your modest and you don't 128 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:01,240 Speaker 1: like to waive your awards and faces. But we're going 129 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:03,159 Speaker 1: to talk a little bit, just give people a preview. 130 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 1: But we're going to talk about just a quick heat 131 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:07,599 Speaker 1: check on Trump. You know, where is he at with everything? 132 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:09,359 Speaker 1: We like to always kind of just check in to 133 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 1: see what's his Is his death grip on the party 134 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 1: still strong? Is it relaxing? Is it going to be 135 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 1: the thing that brings the party now? I don't know. 136 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 1: Let's just look at a few dimensions and we'll go 137 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 1: from there. We'll also talk about this idea of being 138 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:26,120 Speaker 1: a patriot at the pump man. All these Americans are 139 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 1: willing to pay higher gas prices to you know, just 140 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 1: to help in solidarity for the people of Ukraine and 141 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 1: to to to give really to stick it to putin. 142 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 1: But is that is this is this from the gas 143 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 1: industry what are we talking about when we say we're 144 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 1: being patriotic by enduring high prices. I think that's more 145 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 1: of a profiteering thing than anything. So we'll talk about 146 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 1: that also, Joel. Look, this is why I'm almost like, 147 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 1: come on, break me off with something interesting, because you know, 148 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 1: I have my head in the newspaper so much. Yeah, literally, 149 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 1: newspapers all the time. I don't know what's happening out 150 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 1: there with the entertainment. And you've got something interesting about 151 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 1: Daniel Khaluya. It's a it's a bomb. When it hit yesterday, 152 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 1: I said, what is happening? Okay, we got we gotta 153 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 1: get it to the bottom of it. Okay, So we're 154 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 1: going to get to the bottom of it. We're gonna 155 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 1: find out what's going on with Daniel Khalia. We'll talk 156 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 1: about all that plentymore. But first, Ah, what is something 157 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 1: from your search history that's revealing about who you are, 158 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 1: what you're into right now? Well, fun, you should ask. 159 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:33,119 Speaker 1: I am just started a new podcast company with Mangesh, 160 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 1: who I know you know very well, and shout up, 161 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:42,840 Speaker 1: he truly is my better hulf in this in this business. 162 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 1: I'm sorry for everyone that is me, not him. I'm 163 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:48,240 Speaker 1: sitting here, but he came up with the name for 164 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 1: our company, which is Kaleidoscope. And I just saw that. 165 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:53,679 Speaker 1: I saw the trades. I saw you'all sign a deal 166 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 1: with wm ME. You know what I'm saying. I saw 167 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:59,680 Speaker 1: that you might hear the deadline keeping out with the trades. 168 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:04,720 Speaker 1: Because and so we called the company Kaleidoscope. And a 169 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:07,559 Speaker 1: lot of people asked us why we called the kaleidoscope, 170 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 1: and and so I've been doing some homework after the 171 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:15,360 Speaker 1: fact on kaleidoscopes. You always the best time to do 172 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:19,200 Speaker 1: your homework after the real answer. I had all name 173 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 1: exactly well, I mean, it is, it is. We thought 174 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:23,840 Speaker 1: it was a cool name. We liked the idea of 175 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:28,160 Speaker 1: different perspective of colors, of you know, a moment of wonder, 176 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 1: all that kind of thing. But it turns out that 177 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 1: kaleidoscopes were actually invented in the Victorian era at the 178 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:38,560 Speaker 1: same time the Industrial Revolution was happening, and so, you know, 179 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 1: then there are all these new technologies like the steamship 180 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 1: and telegrams and people moving to the city and rail 181 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 1: and it was just a time when the kind of 182 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 1: the world was being turned into data much more crude 183 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:54,199 Speaker 1: data than now. But but where like basically there was 184 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 1: all this stuff happening and at the same time all 185 00:09:56,640 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 1: these new tools for looking at the world came into exist. 186 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:04,839 Speaker 1: Since so the calidoscope, the telescope, the periscope, Sherlock Holmes 187 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:08,200 Speaker 1: is very famous, magnifying glass, stay is not another scope. 188 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 1: But I think what we're hoping with the podcast we 189 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 1: made for Kaleidoscope will be kind of helping people makes 190 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 1: sense of the world and providing a new perspective. And 191 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 1: it we just sort it was interesting that this kind 192 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:24,560 Speaker 1: of bulge of of new technologies to look at the 193 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 1: world in new ways came about when everyone was struggling 194 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 1: to process modernity and right now, like I think everyone's 195 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 1: struggling to process postmodernity. So we hope that will make 196 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:37,839 Speaker 1: some podcasts that you know, at the very least are 197 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:40,920 Speaker 1: provocative and and and fun and pay off our rather 198 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:44,360 Speaker 1: lofty name. I think it will. I mean, I've with 199 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:47,200 Speaker 1: my limited experience in interacting with you ares I mean, 200 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:49,320 Speaker 1: I think we called each other in l A a 201 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 1: couple of months ago, you know, and I between you 202 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:54,680 Speaker 1: a mango, I feel like you will probably be able 203 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:57,200 Speaker 1: to deliver on that and the explanation too. I was like, 204 00:10:57,480 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 1: I'm sure people like in a in a meeting would 205 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:01,719 Speaker 1: be like, yeah, why kaleidoscope, Like you know, just kind 206 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 1: of how like it kind of gives you new perspective, 207 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:05,600 Speaker 1: could twist it and then one thing looks like this 208 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 1: like wow, that's cool. But then you're talking about no man, 209 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:10,560 Speaker 1: people are struggling to deal with post modernity and they're like, 210 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 1: oh my god, no, I wouldn't. I wouldn't say it 211 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 1: in l A normally, but we know each other one enough. Yeah. Yeah, 212 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 1: but I think that's that's a good that's a really 213 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 1: great explanation. Oh man, I used to I sued to 214 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 1: love I had this one kaleidoscope. I couldn't. I still 215 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:31,160 Speaker 1: think about how many hours I could look through a kaleidoscope, 216 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 1: like as a kid and always be like damn, it's 217 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 1: like always different. Oh, you bought the bus right here, 218 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 1: and it is how do I look? You look? Well, 219 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 1: I can't see you, but I can see a very 220 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 1: beautiful question. I mean, having a free toy that you 221 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 1: can just spend hours looking through and seeing something new 222 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 1: every second, that's kind of amazing. Actually, these were the 223 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:56,559 Speaker 1: cell phones of the Victorian era, parents and priests and 224 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 1: moralists said that people were starting to ignore the real world, 225 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:03,360 Speaker 1: seduced by their kalidoscopes, bumping their heads into walls as 226 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:05,440 Speaker 1: they wandered around because they were so obsessed by these 227 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 1: dangerous toys. So it's interesting how history repeats itself again 228 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 1: and again. Oh my god, they're probably like street car 229 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 1: verse pedestrian incidents, or like person was just looking at 230 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 1: their damn kaleidoscope walked into the road, and there was 231 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 1: a scandal over the patents of who owned the kaleidoscope. 232 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 1: There was some commercial litigation that guy who mentored the kalidoscope, 233 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:28,760 Speaker 1: as always happens, didn't profit from it, even though it 234 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:31,320 Speaker 1: became the most popular toy with the Victorian era. So 235 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 1: there's a lot of a lot of world history buried 236 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 1: in a little guy whould have thought, who's the thoughts? 237 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 1: What's something you think is overrated? Well, turning the tone 238 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:47,600 Speaker 1: slightly bleaker than kaleidoscopes. I come from a Ukrainian My 239 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 1: grandfather's Ukrainian refugee, and so we don't have any family 240 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:54,560 Speaker 1: in Ukraine anymore. With a couple of family. Friends have 241 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 1: been watching that situation with with tremendous sadness and feeling 242 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:02,600 Speaker 1: conflicted on the one hand, you know, wanting to very 243 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 1: much support the fight of the Ukrainians, on the other hand, 244 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:10,360 Speaker 1: being a bit worried about the Ukrainians being co opted 245 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 1: by you know, the good guys into into this war 246 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 1: which is going to be just a tremendous, tremendous cost 247 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 1: to human life. So it's a very complicated situation. And 248 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:24,199 Speaker 1: I think, like the you know, I think one of 249 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:27,920 Speaker 1: the things which would overrated is the is the violent 250 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 1: hot take. And so when I saw that Facebook was 251 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:34,840 Speaker 1: making a special exception to allow hate speech temporarily on 252 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:39,560 Speaker 1: its platform, I thought that was pretty overy overrated. They said, 253 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 1: as a result of the Russian invasion of Ukraine, we 254 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:45,440 Speaker 1: have temporarily made allowances for forms of political expression that 255 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:49,320 Speaker 1: would normally violate our rules, like violent speech, such as 256 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 1: death to Russian invaders. We still won't allow credible calls 257 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:56,200 Speaker 1: for violence against Russian civilians. Now, I don't know how 258 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 1: you define a credible call for violence against a Russian civilian, 259 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 1: But the one person I wouldn't want to be making 260 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:07,000 Speaker 1: that judgment is Facebook. Yeah. Absolutely, they have a pretty 261 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:11,400 Speaker 1: horrendous track record. It seems when they're saying like, oh, 262 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:14,199 Speaker 1: this group of angry people kind of got away from 263 00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:17,680 Speaker 1: us and now it's spilling into real world violence against 264 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 1: you know, groups of like innocent people. Yeah, it is. 265 00:14:21,240 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 1: It is always interesting to see. And it was like 266 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:27,120 Speaker 1: a curious decision, right because do you think that's for 267 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:29,800 Speaker 1: them to sort of be able to begin to reason 268 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:34,040 Speaker 1: that there are acceptable forms of hate speech? You know 269 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 1: what I mean? And I get like what your point is. Right, 270 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 1: of course, people of Ukraine are going to look at 271 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 1: an invasion of Russian military is being like, yo, fuck this, 272 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 1: fuck these people, funk all of this. And on one hand, 273 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 1: I think that's where meta there's Facebook. Facebook is like hmmm, 274 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 1: like I feel that, I feel that, I get I 275 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 1: get where they're coming from. But on the other hand, 276 00:14:56,480 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 1: when it's just gonna be like un eased, untethered, like 277 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 1: just absolute anger, just directed I just the idea of Russians, 278 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 1: then that's eventually going to God's problems. I mean, I 279 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:12,520 Speaker 1: think a lot of Asian American people already saw the 280 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 1: fallout of people even calling the coronavirus China flu or 281 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:19,480 Speaker 1: saying Wuhan flu and ship like that, and that even 282 00:15:19,520 --> 00:15:23,080 Speaker 1: something that small can turn into hate crimes. Yeah, it 283 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 1: feels like a bit of a slippery slope, it doesn't. 284 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:27,840 Speaker 1: I know, we're going to talk about patriotism at the 285 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 1: gas pumps. I remember the boycott on French fries after 286 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 1: nine eleven because the French friend wanted to join the 287 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 1: invasion of Afghanistan, so including them although it wasn't that 288 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:39,120 Speaker 1: was the invasion of Iraq, I think. So they rebranded 289 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 1: is Freedom Fries and McDonald's just I think closed down 290 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 1: their their branches in Moscow. I mean, none of this 291 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:48,760 Speaker 1: stuff is is straightforward, but the the kind of nexus 292 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 1: of online hate and conflict and I don't know, it's 293 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 1: just I'm not it's there's no there's no right answer, 294 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 1: But I just I don't think that the kind of 295 00:15:57,240 --> 00:16:00,360 Speaker 1: the turning on the taps of the mob is part killingly. 296 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 1: I would say that has overrated. Yeah and no, and 297 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 1: it's dangerous, especially considering too, It's like, okay, well what 298 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:08,360 Speaker 1: happens in the summer when you have something to say 299 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 1: about the police who are also killing unarmed people? Yeah, 300 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 1: well that's hate speech and that's dangerous, Like well, what 301 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 1: where why are you the arbiters of this? And if 302 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 1: it's if one thing is bad, then it also it 303 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 1: always has to be bad. But I think that's the 304 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 1: problem when you have profit minded companies trying to like 305 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 1: pars through the discourse and be like, well, this is 306 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 1: this and it's a very it's almost like the internet's 307 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:39,600 Speaker 1: fucked up and it's only exactly I don't know. That's 308 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:43,920 Speaker 1: my hot tache for today. The Internet's fucked up. Your face. 309 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:45,880 Speaker 1: You heard it here first, and this is the only 310 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:49,920 Speaker 1: place it's ever been muttered, thank you. Yeah, it's yeah, 311 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:53,960 Speaker 1: it's it's I think it's really it's hard to watch too, 312 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:58,320 Speaker 1: because I think for me being from like my like 313 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 1: coming from an immigrant, My mom's an immigrant, and just 314 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 1: the idea of being out of a place that you 315 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 1: consider your home and sort of looking on to watch 316 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:09,040 Speaker 1: like the destruction of a place that's very near and 317 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:11,879 Speaker 1: dear to you without any power over it, and you 318 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 1: see all these people beginning to come in to figure 319 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:16,520 Speaker 1: out how they can sort of weaponize it for their 320 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:21,440 Speaker 1: own needs is really really fucking hard to watch. And yeah, 321 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 1: I just I pray for as much positivity for people 322 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:27,119 Speaker 1: who are like deeply emotionally affected by it. Because you 323 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:30,640 Speaker 1: have a close friend of miners Ukrainian. It's very difficult 324 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:33,439 Speaker 1: for her to to watch along, especially you know, she's 325 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:36,119 Speaker 1: from Odessa and all the news is like Odess is 326 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:39,400 Speaker 1: gonna get smashed pretty soon, and that's a terrible thing. 327 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:42,920 Speaker 1: Like I think most American people are completely disconnected from 328 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:44,879 Speaker 1: that because they're like, I don't know, I'm from you know, 329 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:48,119 Speaker 1: like like Chicago. Like Joel, if you're like Chicago is 330 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 1: about to get the smash put on them, you'd be like, 331 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:54,240 Speaker 1: oh my god, that's that's my home. But we're already 332 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 1: beginning to see all the ignorance and how people view 333 00:17:56,760 --> 00:17:59,640 Speaker 1: the conflict there versus another parts of the world. It's 334 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:02,879 Speaker 1: become like this very It's interesting what the pandemic has 335 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:05,360 Speaker 1: done for certain levels awareness and then what this this 336 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:08,480 Speaker 1: invasion in Ukraine is also doing, like exposing the media 337 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:12,520 Speaker 1: is very fucked up, like eurocentric, white centric bias as 338 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:16,200 Speaker 1: it relates to global like militarized conflict. And we'll talk 339 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:19,560 Speaker 1: about the gas and oil companies too. Just everybody's got 340 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:23,080 Speaker 1: something to talk about as what is something that you 341 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:30,440 Speaker 1: think is underrated? Well, continuing my vintage technology kick kaleidoscopes 342 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:34,119 Speaker 1: and your pay char I think a Larum clocks underrats it. 343 00:18:35,119 --> 00:18:37,479 Speaker 1: You know, we always read about how you shouldn't go 344 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:39,920 Speaker 1: to bed looking at your phone last thing at night, 345 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:42,280 Speaker 1: and I shouldn't look at your phone first thing in 346 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:46,760 Speaker 1: the morning. And I found myself for a little bit stressed. Recently, 347 00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 1: I thought, why don't I buy a laun clock and 348 00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:52,800 Speaker 1: not look at my phone lastly at night and first 349 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:55,439 Speaker 1: thing in the morning, simply because you know, I have 350 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:58,040 Speaker 1: the excuse that I needed to because my alarms on it. 351 00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 1: Since buying a Launch I put a next in my bed, 352 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:06,920 Speaker 1: I haven't used it once. And they said I've been 353 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:10,960 Speaker 1: doom scrolling morning and night. However, I think the moment 354 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:13,159 Speaker 1: I put my battery in that guy, I'm gonna be 355 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:16,440 Speaker 1: feeling better. Yeah, it's hard to get off the other 356 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:20,600 Speaker 1: doom scroll is dangerous, and especially when there's something fucked 357 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:24,239 Speaker 1: up intersecting with something you care about. It's like they 358 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:27,399 Speaker 1: only it's like again, It's like the Internet's fucked up 359 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 1: and gave us this secondary skill to be like and 360 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:32,400 Speaker 1: now you will obsess over this. You'll you're gonna read 361 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:36,119 Speaker 1: the same headline written forty different ways, but you're gonna 362 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 1: keep scrolling in the hopes that a new thing's gonna 363 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:41,920 Speaker 1: show up to kind of begin to shift your focus, 364 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:44,440 Speaker 1: whether that makes it more positive or more cynical or 365 00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:48,239 Speaker 1: nihilistic or whatever. And it's such a fucking it's a 366 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:50,959 Speaker 1: losing game. And yeah, it is hard to say, like 367 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:53,879 Speaker 1: just to tell yourself, you know what get you know, 368 00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:56,040 Speaker 1: if I give myself some time, that droom scroll be 369 00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:58,520 Speaker 1: shorter because four things will have happened and I can 370 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:01,400 Speaker 1: absorb them on once rather than making this a long 371 00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:04,719 Speaker 1: he needs to watch the news once a day and 372 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:06,920 Speaker 1: or get our papers twice a day. You have the 373 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 1: morning edition and an evening edition. And that was all folks, 374 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:13,280 Speaker 1: what a beautiful time. Didn't appreciate it as it was happening, 375 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:17,959 Speaker 1: would love it back. Turning off notifications has helped with 376 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:21,240 Speaker 1: the doom scrolling a lot, And I can't recommend it 377 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:25,160 Speaker 1: highly enough, Like turn off your notifications every time because 378 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:26,959 Speaker 1: other pides. Every time you get that buzz, you're like, 379 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:29,800 Speaker 1: what's happening? What's going on? And I can easily lose 380 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:32,560 Speaker 1: an hour. You'll have like a physical response to your 381 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:35,320 Speaker 1: phone buzzing too. You'll be like, you'll be get You'll 382 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:37,399 Speaker 1: get anxious because your phone buzzed because you're like, what 383 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:38,640 Speaker 1: does that have to do? Is this thing I don't 384 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:40,240 Speaker 1: want to talk about, or is this thing that's causing 385 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 1: you stress or whatever, and you don't want to be 386 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:44,480 Speaker 1: like that. I'd rather look at my phone and be like, oh, 387 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:46,640 Speaker 1: look the screen has a bunch of notifications on. I'll 388 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:51,760 Speaker 1: get to that. Yeah, totally. I wanted to ask you 389 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:54,880 Speaker 1: us what kind of alarm? Is it the old eighties 390 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 1: one that somehow still works for everybody that's got the 391 00:20:57,320 --> 00:21:00,760 Speaker 1: like almost alarm blair? Is it one of the new 392 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:03,560 Speaker 1: ones that does that sweet like lulling you awake kind 393 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 1: of vibe? Or is it like an old school with 394 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:10,840 Speaker 1: the two bells on the top. Yeah, well I was. 395 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:14,680 Speaker 1: I was worried as ever this particular anxiety. How what 396 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 1: I was buying the alarmplock was what if the ticking 397 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:19,400 Speaker 1: of the of the hand is too much, too much 398 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:23,040 Speaker 1: to handle? So it's a it's a silent tick alarm clock. 399 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:25,840 Speaker 1: It looks like it's kind of kind of vintage sort 400 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:28,880 Speaker 1: of air to it, But sadly I've actually never heard 401 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:30,879 Speaker 1: it go off because I've been using my phone. So 402 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:32,760 Speaker 1: I'll report back if you guys ever invite me back 403 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:35,719 Speaker 1: on the show will be the first. I will make 404 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:39,080 Speaker 1: you hold it along with your Peabody award on the 405 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:42,159 Speaker 1: front line, present the awards and a long clock. Please 406 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 1: do you do? Okay? So you said you're failing at 407 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:49,160 Speaker 1: not looking at your phone before going to sleep. I've 408 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:52,840 Speaker 1: only recently began to. I just switched to my computer. 409 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:56,919 Speaker 1: I'm not sure that counts. I'm like, well, it's not. 410 00:21:57,280 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 1: It's not my phone, it's my computer, and it's a 411 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:02,000 Speaker 1: much large erra image. I find it easier to fall 412 00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:03,919 Speaker 1: asleep when I have a computer in front of me 413 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:07,000 Speaker 1: than my phone, which is really weird. I don't know why, 414 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 1: but I do. I have gotten better at not waking 415 00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 1: up and immediately looking at the phone, like I like 416 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 1: to wake up, feed my pets, go outside, kind of 417 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:23,000 Speaker 1: like stretched my body and then fifteen minutes passing. So 418 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:24,879 Speaker 1: I don't know if any of Joel, do you have 419 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:28,359 Speaker 1: any are you? Are you? Are you glued to that ship? Well? 420 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:31,200 Speaker 1: I have recently had to start meditating what do I 421 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:33,879 Speaker 1: think I've talked about on this show before? Every morning, 422 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:35,960 Speaker 1: and then any time I'm close to like being too 423 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:37,920 Speaker 1: stressed out, like we're just gonna stop and take five 424 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 1: to ten minutes um and I used the calm app 425 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:43,359 Speaker 1: to do that. So I'm trying to get in the 426 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:45,760 Speaker 1: habit of just like hit the calm app button, hit 427 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:49,320 Speaker 1: the meditation playlist, and then put it down because I 428 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:52,520 Speaker 1: was having a problem of like rolling over like deep 429 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:55,200 Speaker 1: scroll through Twitter, deep scroll through Instagram, like check out 430 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:57,639 Speaker 1: the stories like it was my morning news, and then 431 00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:01,520 Speaker 1: I would play word it was things were not getting 432 00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 1: done in the morning. So yeah, so now I'm on 433 00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:08,120 Speaker 1: like meditate, trying to like shower, wake up, and then 434 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:10,400 Speaker 1: just get out of my room as fast as possible 435 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:13,920 Speaker 1: from otherwise it's an issue and I can't be working 436 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:19,560 Speaker 1: in my room all the time anymore. It's mindfulness, mindfulness. Okay, uh, 437 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 1: let's take a quick break and we'll come back to 438 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:25,400 Speaker 1: just just check in on Trump's just a quick heat check, 439 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:38,240 Speaker 1: real quick. All right, We'll be right back and we're 440 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 1: back time for a heat check Trump. Okay, last week 441 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:45,919 Speaker 1: he had he had a man quite a week for 442 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:49,320 Speaker 1: him last week. On Wednesday, last Wednesday, he was talking 443 00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 1: about all during the Texas Republican primaries, like everybody I picked, 444 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:56,879 Speaker 1: they're winning so well, They're doing so so great. He 445 00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:58,919 Speaker 1: couldn't have been doing better. You know, he left out 446 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:00,639 Speaker 1: the part where most of them are running on a 447 00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:06,119 Speaker 1: post but sure, uh je factoe kingmaker here. And he 448 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:09,359 Speaker 1: also conveniently ignored how many of his other hand picked 449 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 1: candidates were not doing that great, like David Perdue, who 450 00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 1: he is trying to sick on his arch nemesis, Governor 451 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 1: Brian Kemp and the governor's race for Georgia because Brian 452 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:23,560 Speaker 1: Kemp famously refused to rat funk the election for Donald Trump. 453 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:26,560 Speaker 1: So Trump is now just doing using the strategy of 454 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:30,080 Speaker 1: like within your my enemy, and I'll send a bunch 455 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:33,400 Speaker 1: of unqualified candidates who don't have a great a chance 456 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:36,320 Speaker 1: of winning after you to create more intra party fighting. 457 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:39,920 Speaker 1: And you know, a few years ago, his endorsement meant 458 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:41,639 Speaker 1: a lot, like you know, it was the kind of 459 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:44,840 Speaker 1: thing that a lot of elected people would be like, well, god, 460 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:47,040 Speaker 1: I gotta get that endorsement. If he goes against if 461 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:49,440 Speaker 1: he picks this other person, that I'm cooked. But that 462 00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:53,280 Speaker 1: potency has decreased a bit. And now that he's out 463 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:55,919 Speaker 1: of office, his strategy just seems to be really just 464 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:59,679 Speaker 1: to use his endorsement as an attack against other Republicans 465 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:04,480 Speaker 1: that he has deemed disloyal. So not a great strategy 466 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 1: if you're looking at the long term, but a great 467 00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 1: strategy if you just want to serve your ego, which 468 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:15,080 Speaker 1: I'll give him that it's his uh superpower. And aside 469 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:17,560 Speaker 1: from that, I think we're also seeing that there's a 470 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:20,280 Speaker 1: lot of a lot of Republicans who are really trying 471 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 1: to distance themselves from Trump's pro Putin comments. That it's 472 00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:26,720 Speaker 1: becoming a little more clear that there's like this openness 473 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:31,000 Speaker 1: to disagreeing in public with the former president. And now 474 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:33,880 Speaker 1: that's probably because support for Putin is already just very 475 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:36,359 Speaker 1: low outside of like the O A. N and News 476 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:40,119 Speaker 1: Max and like Fox News crowd, but this like people 477 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:42,800 Speaker 1: like this, You have Representative Mike Simpson, and we're looking 478 00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:45,720 Speaker 1: from Idaho, says quote, I agree with Pence that there's 479 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:48,399 Speaker 1: no room in our party for apologists for Putin. Again, 480 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 1: that's a direct shot at Trump, and like the people 481 00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:54,639 Speaker 1: followed up that question when he said, okay, when he 482 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:56,480 Speaker 1: said he agrees with Mike Pence that there's no room 483 00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:59,080 Speaker 1: for Putin apologists, when he was asked, like, is that 484 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:01,720 Speaker 1: sort of the why eight or sentiment? Like in most 485 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:05,480 Speaker 1: of the Republican conference the journalist as he said, Yep, yep, 486 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:09,080 Speaker 1: that's pretty much the widely held consensus. John Kakko from 487 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 1: New York and the Republic, and he was more direct. 488 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:13,080 Speaker 1: He said, Putin isn't a genius, and neither is Trump. 489 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:17,520 Speaker 1: So I think it's an easy win for Republicans because 490 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:20,560 Speaker 1: it's such a clear thing. Like you're like, you don't there, 491 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:24,800 Speaker 1: You're not intellectually built to try and argue why Putin 492 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:27,280 Speaker 1: is a genius and why that's good for everything that 493 00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:31,040 Speaker 1: you stand for as a politician. But like, so I'm 494 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:33,400 Speaker 1: not holding my breath in the sense and I'm like, oh, 495 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:36,760 Speaker 1: the tide is turning. But it is clear that they 496 00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:39,360 Speaker 1: do see that it's a It's very problematic for them 497 00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:41,840 Speaker 1: to take that sort of idea on and and sort 498 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 1: of campaign on it because I look back at a 499 00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:46,119 Speaker 1: few years ago and you have people like Lindsey Graham 500 00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:49,560 Speaker 1: who would bend over backwards trying to defend his like 501 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:53,840 Speaker 1: overtly racist remarks, and you're like, holy sh it, he's 502 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:57,120 Speaker 1: got everybody like lockstep with this nonsense. But I think 503 00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:01,480 Speaker 1: this one, it's like just so it's so obvious that 504 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:04,280 Speaker 1: this isn't that's this ain't the take for the party 505 00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:07,159 Speaker 1: to be hopping in on, and it is bad. I 506 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:09,280 Speaker 1: just want to point out, like it gets pretty bad 507 00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:12,399 Speaker 1: when you have people like Sean Hannity who are essentially 508 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:18,880 Speaker 1: begging Trump too, you know, maybe condemn Vladimir Putin. Let's 509 00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:21,600 Speaker 1: hear that you came onto some fire when you said 510 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:25,800 Speaker 1: that Vladimir Putin is very smart. I think I know 511 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:28,080 Speaker 1: you a little bit better than most people in the media, 512 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:34,359 Speaker 1: and I think you also recognize he's evil, do you not. Well, 513 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:36,640 Speaker 1: I was referring to the fact that he said this 514 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:40,080 Speaker 1: is an independent nation talking about Ukraine, and I said, 515 00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:43,400 Speaker 1: that's something said. This is before there was an attack attack, 516 00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:47,199 Speaker 1: he's calling it an independent nation. Now a lot of 517 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:50,040 Speaker 1: things are changing. When you look, this doesn't seem to 518 00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:52,879 Speaker 1: be the same Putin that I was dealing with. But 519 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:54,879 Speaker 1: I will tell you he wouldn't have changed. If I 520 00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:57,240 Speaker 1: were dealing with him, he wouldn't have changed. You know, 521 00:27:57,320 --> 00:28:00,840 Speaker 1: I supplied and I know Biden is to take credit 522 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:03,480 Speaker 1: and they're all trying to take credit about Okay, so 523 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:06,440 Speaker 1: now he just starts he completely missed that offer him 524 00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:08,560 Speaker 1: for him to take, and he just goes on to 525 00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:10,520 Speaker 1: be like, you know, I got. He goes on to 526 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:14,000 Speaker 1: be like the javelin anti tank busters, I gave them that, 527 00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:17,680 Speaker 1: and Hannity is even like, oh my god, bro, like, 528 00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:22,440 Speaker 1: please let me try one more time. The interview goes 529 00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:25,560 Speaker 1: on for a little bit more and Hannity tries fucking 530 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:28,879 Speaker 1: one more time. He's like, here, here it is again. 531 00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:31,320 Speaker 1: I'm gonna put put the point out that it's you 532 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:33,200 Speaker 1: do not want to agree with this person. You want 533 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:36,600 Speaker 1: to be opposed to the actions of Vladimir Putin. Maybe 534 00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:38,719 Speaker 1: this will be the time he starts to listen. Uh, 535 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:41,280 Speaker 1: maybe not. Let me go back then to the issue 536 00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:45,760 Speaker 1: of the criticism, because, um, I've known you twenty five 537 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:50,080 Speaker 1: years and uh, when you got criticized for saying that 538 00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:55,200 Speaker 1: Vladimir Putin is smart. Um, We've had many conversations. Um, 539 00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:58,520 Speaker 1: and you've often quoted to me Sun Sue the art 540 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:02,200 Speaker 1: of war keep your is close and your enemy is closer. 541 00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:06,680 Speaker 1: Is that how you've view Vladimir? Did you view Vladimir 542 00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:10,400 Speaker 1: Putin and people like President she and Kim Jong un 543 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:14,040 Speaker 1: and the Iranian Mullahs as enemies that you needed to 544 00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:17,960 Speaker 1: keep close. I got along with these people. I got 545 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:21,160 Speaker 1: along with them. Well, that doesn't mean they're good people. 546 00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:24,760 Speaker 1: It doesn't mean anything other than the fact that I 547 00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:28,320 Speaker 1: understood them, and perhaps they understood me. Maybe they understood 548 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:31,160 Speaker 1: me even better. That's okay, because they knew they'd be 549 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:34,680 Speaker 1: a big penalty anyway. So he goes on to not 550 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:38,360 Speaker 1: condemning anything and just says, actually, I'm really good homies 551 00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:40,440 Speaker 1: with them. Thank you for bringing that up. And he 552 00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:42,120 Speaker 1: really did the thing where he was trying to do 553 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:44,400 Speaker 1: like when I'm sure in the past when he said 554 00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:47,040 Speaker 1: racist stuff, and you've got to be like, hey, man, 555 00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:49,120 Speaker 1: I've known you a long time and not know that's 556 00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:51,160 Speaker 1: not your heart. You know what I mean, because you've 557 00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:53,719 Speaker 1: hired black people in the past, So how do how 558 00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:55,280 Speaker 1: do you feel when people tell them to try and 559 00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:57,360 Speaker 1: paint your words like that? And then you'd be like, exactly, 560 00:29:57,400 --> 00:29:59,240 Speaker 1: you know, I've been a big supporter of blah blah blah. 561 00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:01,920 Speaker 1: He couldn't even do that in this instance. He's I think, 562 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:05,880 Speaker 1: very much locked into this idea that it's only him 563 00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:08,840 Speaker 1: that could have prevented an invasion because he was so 564 00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:14,280 Speaker 1: close with Vladimir Putin, And that's essentially the the track 565 00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:19,040 Speaker 1: he's on at the moment. That's hilarious, just because I 566 00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:21,640 Speaker 1: I don't know Trump. Trump is such a wild figure 567 00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:24,400 Speaker 1: to me because he lets any kind of actual charisma, 568 00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:27,360 Speaker 1: Like he's not good at giving speeches, even the ones 569 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:34,240 Speaker 1: pre written for him. He's not He's not attractive in 570 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:36,360 Speaker 1: the way you would think like, oh, it's like Australian 571 00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:38,760 Speaker 1: political figure. Well he's a strong jaw and like a 572 00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:41,240 Speaker 1: face you could trust or something. And like every time 573 00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:43,720 Speaker 1: he opened some mouth he sounds like an idiot. Uh, 574 00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:46,680 Speaker 1: and yet there are still people clamoring to hear him speak. 575 00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:50,120 Speaker 1: That's ah, it's a trip, it's I think, but it's 576 00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:53,120 Speaker 1: there's something. Even the way Hannity was talking, right, He's 577 00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:55,480 Speaker 1: there was like this level of defeat. It's almost like 578 00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:58,120 Speaker 1: Hannity was there to try and like prop up this 579 00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:01,640 Speaker 1: old like punch drunk box or that he used to idolize, 580 00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:05,240 Speaker 1: and it's solely realizing he's just a regular creepy, old 581 00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:10,160 Speaker 1: racist guy and there's not much he can do. I guess. Also, 582 00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:14,120 Speaker 1: you have to think that probably Tucker and Anity, you know, 583 00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:18,320 Speaker 1: desperate to have Trump condemned putin now because I think 584 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:21,400 Speaker 1: they're going to be stuck with with their own supporter 585 00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:24,240 Speaker 1: puttin around their necks. You know, and it's going to 586 00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:27,600 Speaker 1: make make make their lives, but make it's difficult and mean, 587 00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:30,000 Speaker 1: I think you know Tucker in particular, I don't know 588 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:32,240 Speaker 1: if he has designs on on office or not, but 589 00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:36,160 Speaker 1: it feels like the real you could do of you know, 590 00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:39,400 Speaker 1: praise for Putin and denial the Ukrainian innovasion was about 591 00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:41,880 Speaker 1: to happen. It's not going to be very helpful. So 592 00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:45,440 Speaker 1: I guess they probably want to get Trump to denounce 593 00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:48,880 Speaker 1: Putin so they can kind of sweep this whole uncomfortable 594 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:51,800 Speaker 1: Dion's under the under the rug. But I gather some 595 00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:54,440 Speaker 1: I mean, there are some people who are running around 596 00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:58,520 Speaker 1: Trump in the Republican Party and still kind of supporting Putin, 597 00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:02,120 Speaker 1: which is I mean, let learn from a moral, ethical, 598 00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:05,880 Speaker 1: geopolitical standpoint, just from a you know, self interested point 599 00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:08,480 Speaker 1: of view, it's very hard to understand. Yeah, And I 600 00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:11,320 Speaker 1: think it's because it's these like Marjorie Taylor Green and 601 00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:14,760 Speaker 1: Madison Cawthorne types who you know, Marjorie Taylor Green was 602 00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:17,640 Speaker 1: that like a total fascist event that are like, you know, 603 00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:21,320 Speaker 1: a white nationalist group that loves Putin. And when she 604 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:23,640 Speaker 1: was speaking, they were chanting his name and she was 605 00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:25,920 Speaker 1: just like sin Bad and eye at that, and people 606 00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:28,880 Speaker 1: like what the fuck Madison Cawthorne we talked about last 607 00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:31,520 Speaker 1: week how he was saying like Zelenski the thug and 608 00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:34,239 Speaker 1: actually like Ukraine is so corrupt that it's and they 609 00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:37,880 Speaker 1: push woke ideologies that this is a good thing that 610 00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:40,280 Speaker 1: Putin is doing, and you're like, dude, you don't even 611 00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:42,480 Speaker 1: know what you're saying. I think you just I think 612 00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:44,760 Speaker 1: you're such an autopilot of being like I just have 613 00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:47,360 Speaker 1: to agree with what whatever Trump says, and that's how 614 00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:51,160 Speaker 1: I keep going without any understanding again of like the 615 00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:54,840 Speaker 1: geopolitical nature of this, what the outcomes could mean for anything, 616 00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:56,400 Speaker 1: and just being like I don't know, man, I just 617 00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:59,360 Speaker 1: do whatever Trump does. And I think it's also important 618 00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:02,040 Speaker 1: to realize that the folks really view themselves as part 619 00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:05,360 Speaker 1: of like an oligarchical society, like they think like having 620 00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:08,200 Speaker 1: money it makes you a better human being. And I 621 00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:12,160 Speaker 1: think that many of them are hoping for a Putin victory, 622 00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:16,400 Speaker 1: and like all they talk about is is a global 623 00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:21,680 Speaker 1: shift in like fascist direction, and so this is the 624 00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:23,880 Speaker 1: start of that, and I think they're excited about it. 625 00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:27,080 Speaker 1: I don't think that there's any thought other than this 626 00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:30,280 Speaker 1: is our chance to win and see this swift change 627 00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:34,840 Speaker 1: brought here, which is right because if you can normalize, Yeah, 628 00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:37,040 Speaker 1: they want to normalize, especially a lot of like the 629 00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:41,040 Speaker 1: cracking down on like dissident voices or LGBTQ people. And 630 00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:43,720 Speaker 1: they're like, whoa, we fucking love that. Oh we love that, 631 00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:46,239 Speaker 1: you know what I actually like And that's a lot 632 00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:47,840 Speaker 1: of the talking points you hear like on oh and 633 00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:50,360 Speaker 1: they're like, I mean, look at what he's against, you know, 634 00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:52,280 Speaker 1: like that really aligns with a lot of the stuff 635 00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:54,479 Speaker 1: we're talking about, So why shouldn't we be there? But 636 00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:58,080 Speaker 1: that's not the case or so anyway, back to Trump though, 637 00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:01,120 Speaker 1: his his brain, Like the other thing about just sort 638 00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:03,520 Speaker 1: of his brand waning right is like truth social his 639 00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:06,560 Speaker 1: whole like fucking you know, Twitter clone that was supposed 640 00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:09,960 Speaker 1: to up end the whole discourse of the Internet came out. 641 00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:13,239 Speaker 1: It was a total wet fart. Everyone like could barely register. 642 00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:15,680 Speaker 1: It was like a waiting line that's like a half 643 00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:18,520 Speaker 1: million people long, and like people are still barely able 644 00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:21,080 Speaker 1: to use it. And if you look at it, it's 645 00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:24,320 Speaker 1: it's pretty much a failure by all measures. Trump barely 646 00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:28,239 Speaker 1: uses it. Milania has publicly said that parlor is her 647 00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:31,560 Speaker 1: official home. His kids don't use it. Many big name 648 00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:34,799 Speaker 1: media personalities in the conservative like take us sphere, do 649 00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:36,879 Speaker 1: not use it either, and the ones that do, like 650 00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:39,520 Speaker 1: they get very little engagement on it and don't seem 651 00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:42,000 Speaker 1: that excited. And again, I think this show is another 652 00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:45,879 Speaker 1: aspect of it that the brand isn't as strong as 653 00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:48,400 Speaker 1: it used to be, especially when you consider that, like 654 00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:50,480 Speaker 1: the main attraction to this is just being like, hey, 655 00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:54,040 Speaker 1: Trump's here, huh, come on. But the only thing Trump 656 00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:57,640 Speaker 1: has been good at selling ever, it's merchandise and reality TV. 657 00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:01,560 Speaker 1: Like there's not a success story in anything he's ever 658 00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:04,279 Speaker 1: sold aside from that, So it's still wild to the 659 00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:06,399 Speaker 1: people were like it's gonna work. It's like, no, he's 660 00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:11,239 Speaker 1: never properly invested in a company ever. And again I 661 00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:13,680 Speaker 1: think the other part of that too is like I 662 00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:17,719 Speaker 1: think he the people behind that social app and a 663 00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:19,960 Speaker 1: lot of this stuff. These like Republicans who want to 664 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:23,200 Speaker 1: set up like these safe spaces for racists and fascists, 665 00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:26,840 Speaker 1: is that they really don't like Republicans in this country. 666 00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:29,560 Speaker 1: They just derive their sense of self from merely being 667 00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:32,560 Speaker 1: like the antithesis of whatever democrats are, like, they can 668 00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:35,200 Speaker 1: only define themselves in relation to this other thing. They 669 00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:39,000 Speaker 1: have no identity aside from no, we're the party of regressing, 670 00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:42,080 Speaker 1: so if there's progress, they're the only thing we know 671 00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:44,360 Speaker 1: how to do is just like try and rein it 672 00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:46,560 Speaker 1: in and slam on the brakes. We don't really have 673 00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:49,600 Speaker 1: anything to add outside of being like, no, not this 674 00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:53,560 Speaker 1: thing they're talking about over there. And again it shows 675 00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:55,440 Speaker 1: they have no interest. So they they're not interested in 676 00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:58,480 Speaker 1: echo chamber. They need these environments where they get to 677 00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:02,000 Speaker 1: argue with liberals. That's the how, that's their their lifeblood. 678 00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:04,360 Speaker 1: And I think they're also failing to understand it's like, 679 00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:06,520 Speaker 1: we don't give a funk about a place where I 680 00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:10,160 Speaker 1: can use like racial slurs without being banned. Like I 681 00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:13,120 Speaker 1: get off on saying those two liberals, that's how my 682 00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:16,160 Speaker 1: life works. So it's a bit of a balancing act 683 00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:20,000 Speaker 1: that I think they're struggling with. And again, it doesn't 684 00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:23,160 Speaker 1: help when the first ladies like fucking truth, I use 685 00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:26,719 Speaker 1: partier like what they can't even get in the same 686 00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:29,320 Speaker 1: page with their marketing. And lastly, when you talk about products, 687 00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:31,919 Speaker 1: he's also begging for jet money, which was a huge thing. 688 00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:34,840 Speaker 1: He was at a fundraising event in Louisiana and a 689 00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:37,880 Speaker 1: jet he was on had like an engine failure and 690 00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:40,239 Speaker 1: they were forced to have an emergency landing on his 691 00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:43,960 Speaker 1: way back to Florida and apparently freaked the funk out 692 00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:46,400 Speaker 1: of him. The next day, there's emails going out to 693 00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:49,400 Speaker 1: all the supporters being like, we're gonna need a little 694 00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:51,640 Speaker 1: how would you like to participate in funding the new 695 00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:55,759 Speaker 1: Trump Force one project? And it's and again most people 696 00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:57,799 Speaker 1: have pointed out that that seven fifty seven that he 697 00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:01,400 Speaker 1: was going around during the campaign, that's like in a 698 00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:05,480 Speaker 1: fucking hangar in New York. That's like beyond repair. The 699 00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:07,920 Speaker 1: fucking one engine needs to be replaced. One of them 700 00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:11,879 Speaker 1: isn't even like on the fucking plane. So he's been 701 00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:14,319 Speaker 1: framing this as and also this is a new air 702 00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:17,120 Speaker 1: Trump Force one that I've been working on in secret, 703 00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:20,080 Speaker 1: so even the media doesn't even know about it. No, dude, 704 00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:23,080 Speaker 1: you panicked on your fucking p jet because the engine 705 00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:25,239 Speaker 1: went down, and now you're trying to grift for your 706 00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:29,680 Speaker 1: own jet money. You ain't got no money, Yeah, no money, 707 00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:33,920 Speaker 1: And he's using it on jets, So I don't know. 708 00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:36,799 Speaker 1: It's interesting to keep our eyes on this one and 709 00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:40,520 Speaker 1: again watching how the conversation is like shifting and there's 710 00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:43,680 Speaker 1: like this one brief moment of like bipartisanship and like 711 00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:48,000 Speaker 1: that most of the Republican establishment is like, no, we agree, Yeah, 712 00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:51,520 Speaker 1: invasion of Ukraine is bad. We do. We agree on that, 713 00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:53,919 Speaker 1: which is very hate. Seeing white people at war really 714 00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:56,920 Speaker 1: tears them apart. Oh god, those kids have blue eyes. 715 00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:01,719 Speaker 1: I mean I had I have blue eyes. You know, 716 00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:04,279 Speaker 1: there's never been a war in Europe before. It's it's 717 00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:07,880 Speaker 1: new to us. It's totally foreign. Could never couldn't happens 718 00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:12,160 Speaker 1: to brown people. Awful. Yeah, and that's all the one 719 00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:13,880 Speaker 1: of the widest ones. I think one of the French, 720 00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:15,440 Speaker 1: I know it was the French Foreign minister or some 721 00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:24,279 Speaker 1: French minister said they drive caused like us, stopping like us. 722 00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:27,120 Speaker 1: What did you think Ukraine was before this too? Like 723 00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:29,799 Speaker 1: you just assume as the Stone Age and then you're like, 724 00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:36,200 Speaker 1: they drive cars like us. Fu. Yeah, not to mention anyway. 725 00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:39,520 Speaker 1: So that's where that that's where we are with old Trumper. 726 00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:42,400 Speaker 1: We'll see, we'll obviously keep an eye on that because 727 00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:44,880 Speaker 1: the oh, another poll came out that said him and 728 00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:48,000 Speaker 1: Joe Biden are in a dead lock in a potential, 729 00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:53,560 Speaker 1: you know, speculative presidential election poll. But at that point, 730 00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:56,880 Speaker 1: I hope Joe Biden is not running again. That's not 731 00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:59,680 Speaker 1: what we need. So I want to talk about this. 732 00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:02,560 Speaker 1: We're talking about patriots at the pump, right, and talking 733 00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:05,280 Speaker 1: about all the ways in which different people are using 734 00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:08,120 Speaker 1: this crisis in Ukraine for their own nefarious aims, and 735 00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:11,719 Speaker 1: the oil and gas lobby is working over time to 736 00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:14,359 Speaker 1: use this crisis as an opportunity to further their own 737 00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:16,719 Speaker 1: gred I think one of the most common things we've 738 00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:20,280 Speaker 1: been seeing is this sentiment that accepting rising gas prices 739 00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:24,399 Speaker 1: is actually a patriotic act, since you know, we're we're 740 00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:26,600 Speaker 1: we need to go without so that we can help 741 00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:30,360 Speaker 1: others out. And I think they love this one because 742 00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:33,400 Speaker 1: it's really easy. They're already you know, they're already raking 743 00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:37,080 Speaker 1: in record profits, okay, And I think people here ban 744 00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:39,719 Speaker 1: on Russian gas, and most people wouldn't think twice to 745 00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:42,320 Speaker 1: even know how much gas we actually import from Russia. 746 00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:45,759 Speaker 1: It accounts for about eight percent of our supply, and 747 00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:49,000 Speaker 1: the US produces again just a side note, enough oil 748 00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:53,040 Speaker 1: to cover domestic needs, but we do import a ton 749 00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:56,320 Speaker 1: of petroleum products still and because of the global market 750 00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:59,719 Speaker 1: is affected by the disruptions, and we do import petroleum 751 00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:03,640 Speaker 1: produc those disruptions and supply the logic here as well. Well, 752 00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:05,759 Speaker 1: the prices are all just gonna go up, and I 753 00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:09,440 Speaker 1: think most people have accepted that, and this is really 754 00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:11,880 Speaker 1: just pure greed, you know, like this is this is 755 00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:14,120 Speaker 1: a this is an industry that was clearing over two 756 00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:17,120 Speaker 1: hundred billion dollars in profits at the end of last year, 757 00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:20,080 Speaker 1: and this is just price gouging. They found an opportunity 758 00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:23,879 Speaker 1: to sort of insert this narrative of like, granted, yes 759 00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:26,799 Speaker 1: the market is being disrupted, but there's no room for 760 00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:29,520 Speaker 1: them to eat into their two hundred billion dollars in 761 00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:32,440 Speaker 1: profits to make things easier, or there's the choice to 762 00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:37,040 Speaker 1: just extract as much money out of consumers as possible. 763 00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:40,560 Speaker 1: And I think that's where things get a little bit murky. 764 00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:42,799 Speaker 1: And it's tough when you have people like Stephen Colbert 765 00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:46,239 Speaker 1: and George Tak who like for liberals, are like, hey, 766 00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:47,959 Speaker 1: what do they have to say, and they're even saying 767 00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:49,759 Speaker 1: the same ship. It's like, you know, we got to 768 00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:53,200 Speaker 1: accept these higher prices, you know, it's just something we 769 00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:56,880 Speaker 1: gotta do. And I think this is also this really 770 00:40:56,920 --> 00:41:00,399 Speaker 1: helps democrats too, because it's also a very tight way 771 00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:03,759 Speaker 1: for them to attach an external problem to explain like 772 00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:08,040 Speaker 1: inflation and their lack of control over greedy corporations. Like 773 00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:11,520 Speaker 1: it's just this conflict, you know, so we gotta we 774 00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:13,160 Speaker 1: gotta do what's right. You know, there's gonna be a 775 00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:16,680 Speaker 1: little bit of pain for working people, a lot of 776 00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:19,800 Speaker 1: pleasure if you're in the C suite at a fucking 777 00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:23,680 Speaker 1: fossil fuel company. Yeah, and it's just given a lot 778 00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:26,719 Speaker 1: of like these talking points to be marched out by 779 00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:29,960 Speaker 1: gas and oil boot liquors, like you hear this thing 780 00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:33,440 Speaker 1: of like the Keystone XEL pipeline just that would have 781 00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:36,360 Speaker 1: defeated Putin if we just didn't block that because the 782 00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:41,480 Speaker 1: darned fucking like environmentalist hippies, that is not a production pipeline. 783 00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:44,480 Speaker 1: There's no additional oil coming because the Keyston like they 784 00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:47,279 Speaker 1: don't again, people just say this and they don't talk 785 00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:51,160 Speaker 1: about Keystone XL was to move oil from Canada to 786 00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:54,440 Speaker 1: like Texas to be refined and then shipped abroad. It 787 00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:57,560 Speaker 1: wasn't because the Keystone XL was like, oh man, we 788 00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:00,279 Speaker 1: got this whole gas station called Keystone X know that 789 00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:03,359 Speaker 1: we haven't turned on, and we get all this kind 790 00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:06,759 Speaker 1: of oil and gas lobby talking points being injected into 791 00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:09,000 Speaker 1: the discourse to tell us that, you know, we need 792 00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:11,759 Speaker 1: more fossil fuel, when in fact it sounds like we 793 00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:16,160 Speaker 1: need less. But one of the most cynical little moments 794 00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:18,520 Speaker 1: that's come out of the last month or so was 795 00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:23,680 Speaker 1: the like normalizing of relations between the US and Venezuela. So, 796 00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:28,400 Speaker 1: you know, obviously Venezuela was a pariah state, and you know, 797 00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:33,160 Speaker 1: Maduro was an unacceptable dictator, and the US foreign policy 798 00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:37,160 Speaker 1: establigement had to support the opposition. And now all of 799 00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:40,439 Speaker 1: a sudden, it's fine, Maduro is a great guy. He's 800 00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:44,319 Speaker 1: released political prisoners, and Venezuelan oil and gas is going 801 00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:46,239 Speaker 1: to be coming onto the market in the US. And 802 00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:48,799 Speaker 1: it's like fair enough, Like it's good. It's good to 803 00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:51,200 Speaker 1: be looking for alternative wood and gas sources. I guess 804 00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:52,640 Speaker 1: to make sure that people don't have to pay the 805 00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:55,400 Speaker 1: price at the pump, etcetera. But like just the like 806 00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:01,960 Speaker 1: eight no explanation, just like actually, like situation has changed. 807 00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:04,200 Speaker 1: So this person who is on acceptable dictator is now 808 00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:06,880 Speaker 1: a great persons to business with It's just like I 809 00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:11,480 Speaker 1: don't know, I don't understand there's no why why politicians 810 00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:15,520 Speaker 1: can't treat citizens like adults. I mean, if they explained, hey, 811 00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:18,279 Speaker 1: look he's still not a great guy his situation, we're 812 00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:20,440 Speaker 1: going to do business with him, it's like, okay, probably 813 00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:23,880 Speaker 1: get that. But like there's just ty total about face. 814 00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:26,839 Speaker 1: Like it's almost like, you know, some kind of weird 815 00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:30,360 Speaker 1: gaslighting that like how quickly the it can change, like 816 00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:32,960 Speaker 1: who's in and who's out. You have people being like 817 00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:37,359 Speaker 1: Maduro's killing his people with socialism. I mean a roll 818 00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:41,239 Speaker 1: of toilet paper costs nine thousand dollars. This is this, 819 00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:43,000 Speaker 1: and this is why we don't want to go down 820 00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:47,040 Speaker 1: that path and mistreat our people too. I love him, 821 00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:50,160 Speaker 1: and that is I think. You know, if the media 822 00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:53,160 Speaker 1: was a little bit more, you know, less controlled by 823 00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:56,440 Speaker 1: a corporate interests, they'd probably point that out in their coverage. 824 00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:59,600 Speaker 1: They'd say, why have we gone from saying look at 825 00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:01,640 Speaker 1: this place over here, it's a mess. They're evil, we 826 00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:05,520 Speaker 1: shouldn't would sanction them to fucking hell. But then suddenly 827 00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:09,320 Speaker 1: we found a way to completely shift or the perception 828 00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:11,960 Speaker 1: from a policy perspective and say, like no, there's actually 829 00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:15,239 Speaker 1: great there. They've been the coolest people forever and this 830 00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:17,879 Speaker 1: is all fantastic. And I think that's the other part 831 00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:21,640 Speaker 1: of like all this this maneuvering that happens politically because 832 00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:24,720 Speaker 1: going into mid terms, you don't you're trying to figure 833 00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:28,239 Speaker 1: out what's the best form of leadership? Do you do 834 00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:31,239 Speaker 1: you make gas prices cheaper? Do you just say fuck? Well? 835 00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:34,560 Speaker 1: Because the corporations are literally just trying to offset, like 836 00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:38,200 Speaker 1: you know, the lost profits from and coming back with 837 00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:42,160 Speaker 1: a vengeance now by bringing raising prices. Do we what 838 00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:44,120 Speaker 1: do we do with that? And I think it's really 839 00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:46,759 Speaker 1: difficult for just like everyday people to kind of see 840 00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:50,839 Speaker 1: like the contradictory talking points and policies that have been 841 00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:53,640 Speaker 1: happening this whole time. This also seems like a real 842 00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:57,040 Speaker 1: big miss opportunity for Democrats to like reach out to 843 00:44:57,200 --> 00:45:00,560 Speaker 1: their base, the idea that like this point in time, 844 00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:03,120 Speaker 1: Democrats could very loudly be saying like, not only do 845 00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:06,080 Speaker 1: you not need to raise your gas prices, but what 846 00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:09,200 Speaker 1: alternative fuel options can we be investing in at this time? 847 00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:15,319 Speaker 1: Like we are literally exiting a global changing event. Now 848 00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:18,439 Speaker 1: is the time to like hop on new ideas and 849 00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:21,200 Speaker 1: and and I think that people are very much prepared 850 00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:24,480 Speaker 1: to embrace him, specifically folks who lost so much money 851 00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:28,640 Speaker 1: during the pandemic. There's a complete disconnect between it's patriotic 852 00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:32,759 Speaker 1: to spend more money on gas and some people have 853 00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:35,240 Speaker 1: been jobless for the last two and a half years 854 00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:43,840 Speaker 1: and you gave them. But there's not there's if you 855 00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:48,239 Speaker 1: count that other. I mean, I did say two to 856 00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:51,400 Speaker 1: get people by groceries for a month for a family 857 00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:56,320 Speaker 1: of three. Maybe it's bizarre to me specifically considering that 858 00:45:56,680 --> 00:46:00,200 Speaker 1: we are the Democratic there's not there's not an off 859 00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:03,080 Speaker 1: space between like Democrats and Republicans as far as like 860 00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:06,040 Speaker 1: voting goes. Right now, you've got midterms coming up, and 861 00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:09,319 Speaker 1: they're really just sitting on their hands when there seems 862 00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:12,160 Speaker 1: to be an abundant opportunity to make a statement to 863 00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:14,040 Speaker 1: their people like hey, we're here for you. We can 864 00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:17,960 Speaker 1: do things better differently and saview money, which everyone enjoys. 865 00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:20,200 Speaker 1: Every person it's like, oh, we're gonna not has to 866 00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:22,760 Speaker 1: spend so much money. Perfect well, And I think there's 867 00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:25,719 Speaker 1: built like you know, Rocana has introduced to build that 868 00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:28,640 Speaker 1: would essentially that's being sponsored by like Bernie and like 869 00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:31,520 Speaker 1: Elizabeth Warren and a few other people. That is essentially 870 00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:34,439 Speaker 1: attacks like the windfall profits of the oil and gas 871 00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:39,720 Speaker 1: companies at like fifty percent and then redistribute those funds 872 00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:42,480 Speaker 1: in the form of quarterly checks to people like at 873 00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:45,120 Speaker 1: the same thresholds that the stimulus checks were saying. The 874 00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:49,120 Speaker 1: income thresholds again similar you know, seventy five thousand for individuals, 875 00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:53,480 Speaker 1: one fifty for couples, and it would basically be anywhere 876 00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:56,680 Speaker 1: between two, like around two hundred fifty bucks a year 877 00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:59,480 Speaker 1: for a person per quarter that you would get from 878 00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:01,840 Speaker 1: basically be like, all right, we skimmed the the oil 879 00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:05,839 Speaker 1: and gas corporate profits and there it is. Now we'll 880 00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:08,520 Speaker 1: see where that goes. Because obviously Republicans, the last thing 881 00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:11,000 Speaker 1: they're gonna be like, what are you talking about? But 882 00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:12,640 Speaker 1: I think we really need to have a large, like 883 00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:15,600 Speaker 1: this larger conversation about a like you're saying, we need 884 00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:18,279 Speaker 1: to get the funk away from fossil fuels, and this 885 00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:22,600 Speaker 1: industry is built on extracting not only just massive resources 886 00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:24,800 Speaker 1: out of the ground, but squeezing people for every single 887 00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:28,759 Speaker 1: dollar they have while also contributing to earth death. Like 888 00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:34,000 Speaker 1: the the absurdity of it all is one that's not 889 00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:36,840 Speaker 1: being examined close enough. And I think while it's commendable 890 00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:39,160 Speaker 1: to merely say like, yeah, man, we gotta take some 891 00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:41,240 Speaker 1: of this money, it's like, no, we need to fucking 892 00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:44,080 Speaker 1: nationalize this industry. At the very least, this is like 893 00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:46,239 Speaker 1: too much ship depends on this. And at the same 894 00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:50,120 Speaker 1: time it's also the the the cause of and solution 895 00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:56,359 Speaker 1: to all of our problems, apparently, Simpson. So keep your 896 00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:58,960 Speaker 1: eye keep your eye there. All right, let's take a 897 00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:01,120 Speaker 1: quick break and we'll be right back to talk. You know, 898 00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:14,880 Speaker 1: lighter fair and we're back. It's time for some some 899 00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:20,120 Speaker 1: Hollywood talk, you know what's Joel. Well, when you came here, 900 00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:22,000 Speaker 1: when you first hopped on the zoom call, I was like, 901 00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:23,719 Speaker 1: what's going on? And he said, did you hear about 902 00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:26,160 Speaker 1: this Daniel Khaluja thing and his life strategist? And I 903 00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:28,719 Speaker 1: was like, hold on, I only understood the Daniel Kaluya part. 904 00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:32,520 Speaker 1: What is what else? So there's big news for people 905 00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:35,239 Speaker 1: don't know Daniel Khaluya, most memorably, I think for people 906 00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:37,520 Speaker 1: who aren't if you don't know his name and immediately 907 00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:40,080 Speaker 1: know who that is from, get out and you know 908 00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:42,760 Speaker 1: many other films. But to keep it simple, Daniel Khaluya 909 00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:47,280 Speaker 1: is having a bit of a controversial career shift, career 910 00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:49,920 Speaker 1: shake up or something that's a lot happening around him. 911 00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:52,040 Speaker 1: A career shift is such a nice way to put it. 912 00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:55,239 Speaker 1: And I want to first state that a lot of 913 00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:57,359 Speaker 1: these details are new and incoming, and so I'm going 914 00:48:57,360 --> 00:49:00,640 Speaker 1: to do my best to just give you what facts 915 00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:04,880 Speaker 1: we have and we'll lightly speculate. Okay, So here's what's happening. 916 00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:09,560 Speaker 1: Daniel Clint star right. He's been in so many iconic movies, 917 00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:13,800 Speaker 1: Black Panther, Get Out. He's doing Dope with Jordan Peele next. 918 00:49:14,239 --> 00:49:18,720 Speaker 1: It's the hottest thing happening right now. His team similar 919 00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:22,040 Speaker 1: teams to Steven Spielberg's. I think they have the same agents. 920 00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:27,800 Speaker 1: A couple of months ago he fired everybody, whole team gone, 921 00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:31,080 Speaker 1: and they have all confirmed they're no longer working. We 922 00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:35,560 Speaker 1: typically mean like a manager, agent, publicist. All of them 923 00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:41,920 Speaker 1: checked out and gone, which is bananas. He's replaced reportedly 924 00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:46,200 Speaker 1: his team with a self help guru. I think they 925 00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:50,359 Speaker 1: called her like a gem specialist named air Holiness. That's 926 00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:56,360 Speaker 1: h E. I R. Apparently she also goes by Air princess. 927 00:49:56,520 --> 00:50:00,719 Speaker 1: She is fifty. She describes herself as head mistress for 928 00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:05,080 Speaker 1: the international alma mater of Blessed University. What it is, 929 00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:10,960 Speaker 1: we don't know. Yeah, yeah, oh no, go on and 930 00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:13,360 Speaker 1: I'll just lay it out and then I'll have my 931 00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:16,640 Speaker 1: questions after. I'm sorry, yeah, questions keeping up as you 932 00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:18,799 Speaker 1: describe this. That's okay, So I see it is spokes 933 00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:20,440 Speaker 1: first and told the Post I can confer the denial 934 00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:23,480 Speaker 1: is not a client of the agency any longer. Our 935 00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:27,879 Speaker 1: Holiness has marginalized Decay's usual team. This is according to 936 00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:32,080 Speaker 1: the Post and page six. Okay, very very you know, 937 00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:38,000 Speaker 1: but you know again, we'll lightly speculate, will lightly lightly speculating. 938 00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:41,920 Speaker 1: A source has said our Holiness has taken over his 939 00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:45,960 Speaker 1: life now. She had posted on her Instagram earlier basically 940 00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:47,879 Speaker 1: being like, oh, I worked with Daniel and I love 941 00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:50,160 Speaker 1: it and it's great. Then she pulled that and said 942 00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:53,880 Speaker 1: she never worked with Daniel, So what is the truth? 943 00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:58,320 Speaker 1: We don't know. My most interesting like speculation on this 944 00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:02,320 Speaker 1: is that apparently having her around the set of Nope 945 00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:06,319 Speaker 1: was a nightmare. The quote from the insiders, I've heard 946 00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:08,439 Speaker 1: there were multiple blow ups in the production. People were 947 00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:11,359 Speaker 1: afraid of her. There's another rumor that she ran off 948 00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:14,879 Speaker 1: another girl that he was seeing, and that apparently it's 949 00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:19,320 Speaker 1: just her and him now they've been seeing hot air ballooning? 950 00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:24,399 Speaker 1: So is it romantic? Is it spiritual guidance? Is it even? 951 00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:27,879 Speaker 1: Does she even really work for him? We don't know, 952 00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:32,080 Speaker 1: but but we know that they are physically, they do 953 00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:34,799 Speaker 1: know each other, and they do interact. We have seen 954 00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:38,839 Speaker 1: them in photos together, both in public spaces, and it 955 00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:40,879 Speaker 1: looks like on set in a makeup room. But we're 956 00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:43,640 Speaker 1: trying to figure out is she Cardinal Risha Lieu to 957 00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:52,719 Speaker 1: his Louis fourteen exactly? But out there is she in 958 00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:55,920 Speaker 1: his ear, the one pulling the strings behind the scenes, 959 00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:58,760 Speaker 1: and merely he is the vessel for her her aims? 960 00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:01,239 Speaker 1: Is she even like it doesn't even have any like 961 00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:07,480 Speaker 1: real functional experience representing she's literally air or air holiness 962 00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:12,160 Speaker 1: or whatever U there were? Okay, so where did I 963 00:52:12,200 --> 00:52:15,080 Speaker 1: put this article? I'm like you a tabby cat seven 964 00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:18,400 Speaker 1: thousand tabs somewhere since that she has a pH d 965 00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:25,040 Speaker 1: in not metaphysics but something. Hold on, I have it here, 966 00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:30,520 Speaker 1: but that's not but that isn't entertainment business account Oh 967 00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:34,760 Speaker 1: definitely not that. Definitely nothing that we can see. Also, 968 00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:40,600 Speaker 1: her real name is Vaniola Salima Mohammed, okay, and she's 969 00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:45,239 Speaker 1: Air Princess and Air Princess fifty. Here's a quote from 970 00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:47,600 Speaker 1: her Instagram account. I'm just a spiritual gangster serving a 971 00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:51,920 Speaker 1: life sentence in a human body. Well, it is funny. 972 00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:54,279 Speaker 1: I mean when you think about the Hollywood system, when 973 00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:55,719 Speaker 1: you when you go to l A and like it 974 00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:59,120 Speaker 1: slowly starts to unfurl itself when you realize that like 975 00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:03,160 Speaker 1: every quote unquote talent has like an Asian and a 976 00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:07,279 Speaker 1: manager and a publicist and a lawyer, all of you know, 977 00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:11,359 Speaker 1: on the on the on the gravy train. And so yeah, 978 00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:14,960 Speaker 1: this idea that just clearing out the whole slate and 979 00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:19,360 Speaker 1: putting everything in holiness is hands you can kind of 980 00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:22,440 Speaker 1: program to stand some of the temptation. But I mean 981 00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:25,400 Speaker 1: it's such a such a strange system to begin with. 982 00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:28,960 Speaker 1: And I mean, didn't didn't didn't Johnny Depp? But isn't 983 00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:31,200 Speaker 1: he in someone have litigation with his manager who ended 984 00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:33,239 Speaker 1: up spending all of his money. I mean it's like 985 00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:35,080 Speaker 1: it seems to me a lot of people end up 986 00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:39,920 Speaker 1: getting sucked over by you know, seemingly trustworthy handlers or 987 00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:42,680 Speaker 1: team members or whatever. So in a way, you may 988 00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:44,319 Speaker 1: as well just jump in at the deep end with 989 00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:47,040 Speaker 1: the spiritual gangster setting a life sentence and a human 990 00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:50,360 Speaker 1: You're like, I heard Bill Murray doesn't have any reps 991 00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:52,360 Speaker 1: and he handles all his ship by himself. You're like, 992 00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:54,600 Speaker 1: I might as well. Look, I could do that with 993 00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:58,640 Speaker 1: the help of air holiness, crystal guidance, and just putting 994 00:53:58,600 --> 00:54:00,759 Speaker 1: in the chat that he says her on and Bio 995 00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:03,040 Speaker 1: says that she has quote a B S, m s 996 00:54:03,080 --> 00:54:06,440 Speaker 1: and pH d and holistic health parapsychic science from the 997 00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:10,279 Speaker 1: American Institute of Holistic Theology, and she is skilled in 998 00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:14,440 Speaker 1: wellness coaching, executive coaching, spiritual healing. These are all capitalized 999 00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:20,440 Speaker 1: energy healing and building relationships, among other things. Okay, Daniel, 1000 00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:23,000 Speaker 1: please let us know what's going on. Yeah, it's interesting 1001 00:54:23,040 --> 00:54:26,239 Speaker 1: to me the sort of like fan reaction because we 1002 00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:28,839 Speaker 1: can't nail down specifically, and because it's his page six 1003 00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:31,000 Speaker 1: and we can only take it with so much seriousness. 1004 00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:34,840 Speaker 1: The conversation has sort of turned to who's this older 1005 00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:37,960 Speaker 1: woman taking over his life? Or is this his get 1006 00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:41,120 Speaker 1: out character coming back to haunt him, someone was like, 1007 00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:45,560 Speaker 1: flash camera in his eyes? Is there excessive? But I 1008 00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:49,759 Speaker 1: think we saw similar conversations around Aaron Taylor Johnson, who 1009 00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:51,839 Speaker 1: has a twenty four year age difference between him and 1010 00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:54,640 Speaker 1: his wife. They are still very much in love, they 1011 00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:57,680 Speaker 1: got kids together, they've been together for over a decade, 1012 00:54:58,239 --> 00:55:01,839 Speaker 1: you know. And I but also it's Hollywood, and we've 1013 00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:05,120 Speaker 1: seen multiple times grifters come in and sort of take 1014 00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:09,120 Speaker 1: over a person's life and not just steal money, but 1015 00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:12,160 Speaker 1: you know, derail the direction of their career. And Damn 1016 00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:16,360 Speaker 1: Clue is such a celebrated black actor. He's so extremely 1017 00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:18,640 Speaker 1: talented that I think it's kind of daunting for a 1018 00:55:18,719 --> 00:55:22,280 Speaker 1: lot of people to consider that perhaps like the best 1019 00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:26,239 Speaker 1: is over for Daniel if or if true, or he 1020 00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:29,359 Speaker 1: just has trash taste in picking a partner. I mean, 1021 00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:33,360 Speaker 1: and that's you know, but but it also sounds like 1022 00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:34,920 Speaker 1: the kind of thing where they're like, yo, he's caught 1023 00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:37,560 Speaker 1: up with I don't like her, and they're like, man, 1024 00:55:37,560 --> 00:55:39,319 Speaker 1: he fired me, and then you come back like we're 1025 00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:41,799 Speaker 1: really worried about him, and he might just be like, yo, dude, 1026 00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:45,080 Speaker 1: I'm kind of into this freaky older lady who heals 1027 00:55:45,120 --> 00:55:47,719 Speaker 1: me with crystals and ship. That's kind of I'm still 1028 00:55:47,719 --> 00:55:50,280 Speaker 1: a good actor still, I'm not sucking up my career. 1029 00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:52,640 Speaker 1: I just this is who I rock with now, and 1030 00:55:52,680 --> 00:55:56,920 Speaker 1: I'm sorry except that, I don't know. It'll be interesting 1031 00:55:56,920 --> 00:56:00,560 Speaker 1: to see once the Dope Press tour starts. How please 1032 00:56:00,640 --> 00:56:03,799 Speaker 1: out if she's around. I feel like that's usually the 1033 00:56:03,840 --> 00:56:07,880 Speaker 1: part where partners of this ILK get troublesome. It's like 1034 00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:09,399 Speaker 1: when they're in the room with the press and they're 1035 00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:13,960 Speaker 1: like talking over their partners. Yeah, when she was like 1036 00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:15,879 Speaker 1: in the street trying to defend him after the rush, 1037 00:56:16,160 --> 00:56:18,320 Speaker 1: like you don't even know the name of the person, 1038 00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:23,560 Speaker 1: He's like, all right, hilarious, hilarious stops like when he 1039 00:56:23,640 --> 00:56:26,279 Speaker 1: comes on like Daniels doing Pressed and he's like he's 1040 00:56:26,280 --> 00:56:28,520 Speaker 1: like wearing all these robes and ship and like flowy 1041 00:56:28,600 --> 00:56:32,360 Speaker 1: scarves and they're like, sir, He's like, please call me airness, 1042 00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:36,920 Speaker 1: and you're like, that's when maybe we can start wearing 1043 00:56:37,160 --> 00:56:40,880 Speaker 1: But yeah, I it's I'm I'm always curious. I always 1044 00:56:40,920 --> 00:56:45,800 Speaker 1: like seeing people's interesting career moves and relationships. But I 1045 00:56:45,840 --> 00:56:47,719 Speaker 1: don't know, what's what's your feeling on this? Do you 1046 00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:51,280 Speaker 1: think that this is a person who's grifting. Is Daniel 1047 00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:53,360 Speaker 1: just doing his thing and he's kind of making a 1048 00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:55,879 Speaker 1: weird decision and he likes this person and everything's all good, 1049 00:56:55,920 --> 00:56:58,799 Speaker 1: he says, trash taste and that's upsetting people, or you think, 1050 00:56:58,960 --> 00:57:01,400 Speaker 1: what do you think is from initial reaction was this 1051 00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:06,200 Speaker 1: is bad and Daniel get out. No, I'm intended. I'm 1052 00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:08,520 Speaker 1: a woo girl, and so it's hard for me to 1053 00:57:08,680 --> 00:57:12,600 Speaker 1: be like, she uses crystal, she's crazy. I have crystals. 1054 00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:15,279 Speaker 1: I've done some terror readings before. You know, I like 1055 00:57:15,360 --> 00:57:20,280 Speaker 1: the woo woo things. So I really don't really, so 1056 00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:23,360 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know. What's been most interesting to 1057 00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:27,240 Speaker 1: me is her denial of it, of even working for him, 1058 00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:29,840 Speaker 1: right she I mean? I mean? And even further, she 1059 00:57:29,920 --> 00:57:32,120 Speaker 1: was like, people say, I work with Ja, that's wild. 1060 00:57:32,120 --> 00:57:33,600 Speaker 1: I would love to work with him, almost as if 1061 00:57:33,600 --> 00:57:37,760 Speaker 1: she doesn't know him. But again, we've seen pictures, but 1062 00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:40,240 Speaker 1: also pictures are faked so well today that you always 1063 00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:42,080 Speaker 1: have to take that with a grain of salt. Is 1064 00:57:42,120 --> 00:57:46,760 Speaker 1: it a deep fath right, because back he said, I've 1065 00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:48,480 Speaker 1: never seen this woman in my entire life. What are 1066 00:57:48,560 --> 00:57:51,160 Speaker 1: y'all talking about? But I guess it says something much 1067 00:57:51,240 --> 00:57:54,960 Speaker 1: larger about the way we view celebrities and that we 1068 00:57:55,040 --> 00:57:59,440 Speaker 1: really need them to be okay in order to support 1069 00:57:59,480 --> 00:58:02,400 Speaker 1: what's happen being like, in order to like invest in 1070 00:58:02,440 --> 00:58:05,720 Speaker 1: their career decisions, right, Like if you think Danny Clue 1071 00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:08,120 Speaker 1: has gone off the deep end with this woman who's 1072 00:58:08,120 --> 00:58:12,040 Speaker 1: scamming him, Like can you take his films seriously? And 1073 00:58:12,040 --> 00:58:14,880 Speaker 1: I think every day I understand more and more celebrities 1074 00:58:15,160 --> 00:58:19,080 Speaker 1: like desire to completely disconnect from their fan base because 1075 00:58:19,120 --> 00:58:21,720 Speaker 1: we're kind of involved at a level that doesn't allow 1076 00:58:21,760 --> 00:58:24,520 Speaker 1: them to move with any kind of comfort. Like if 1077 00:58:24,520 --> 00:58:26,640 Speaker 1: you make a mistake and I don't mean in the 1078 00:58:26,840 --> 00:58:29,560 Speaker 1: like cancel culture blah blah blah, ball should I don't 1079 00:58:29,600 --> 00:58:33,000 Speaker 1: think you're just scrutinized in general. Yeah, yeah, that this 1080 00:58:33,160 --> 00:58:35,040 Speaker 1: it's hard to just breathe and be like, oh, I 1081 00:58:35,080 --> 00:58:36,760 Speaker 1: want to try this thing. Is that is that gonna 1082 00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:38,800 Speaker 1: work for me? Or while my fans hate that I 1083 00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:42,200 Speaker 1: did that, have him now make a stupid false apology 1084 00:58:42,200 --> 00:58:45,560 Speaker 1: about something I was interested in, Like that's it's messy, man, 1085 00:58:45,640 --> 00:58:47,040 Speaker 1: And so I don't know. I hope he's all right. 1086 00:58:47,080 --> 00:58:48,880 Speaker 1: I hope it's not a scam. I like a lot 1087 00:58:48,880 --> 00:58:50,960 Speaker 1: of his movies, and I think I also think it's 1088 00:58:50,960 --> 00:58:54,920 Speaker 1: easier because Daniel Clue constantly plays characters that black culture 1089 00:58:55,000 --> 00:58:58,200 Speaker 1: criticizes in a very intense way. So like you're dating 1090 00:58:58,200 --> 00:59:01,400 Speaker 1: a white girl. Oh when he like fucked up, he 1091 00:59:01,640 --> 00:59:04,080 Speaker 1: betrayed his friend and black panther and then his wife 1092 00:59:04,080 --> 00:59:06,640 Speaker 1: had to come collect him with their pet at the end. 1093 00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:09,720 Speaker 1: Like he's constantly playing these characters where we're like, that's us, 1094 00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:12,080 Speaker 1: why would you do that? And so I think I 1095 00:59:12,120 --> 00:59:14,400 Speaker 1: kind of bleeds into with your life too a little bit. Yeah, 1096 00:59:14,560 --> 00:59:16,360 Speaker 1: I kind of looky. I kind of want him to. 1097 00:59:16,680 --> 00:59:21,000 Speaker 1: I like the idea that air holiness, that there's something 1098 00:59:21,040 --> 00:59:24,000 Speaker 1: really weird going on, and maybe he's just also like, noah, man, 1099 00:59:24,080 --> 00:59:26,400 Speaker 1: I'm I'm really in this. I'm like, I'm done acting 1100 00:59:26,720 --> 00:59:30,120 Speaker 1: like I'm all about the air now air bending, Okay, 1101 00:59:30,440 --> 00:59:33,160 Speaker 1: I can see it. Well. Thank you so much, Joel 1102 00:59:33,280 --> 00:59:37,000 Speaker 1: and Oz for joining me today to talk just the whole, 1103 00:59:37,040 --> 00:59:40,760 Speaker 1: the whole spectrum of topics today on Monday, to start 1104 00:59:40,800 --> 00:59:43,480 Speaker 1: the week off. Oz, where can people find you and 1105 00:59:43,520 --> 00:59:47,240 Speaker 1: follow you? And is there any tweets that you've laughed 1106 00:59:47,280 --> 00:59:49,400 Speaker 1: at or just enjoyed in general? You can find me 1107 00:59:49,440 --> 00:59:54,240 Speaker 1: on Twitter Osalshin and my dear friend Cara, who I 1108 00:59:54,280 --> 00:59:57,640 Speaker 1: did to Sleep Bokers podcast with her. Her Twitter always 1109 00:59:57,680 --> 01:00:00,200 Speaker 1: keeps being very entertained, and one of her a as 1110 01:00:00,320 --> 01:00:04,760 Speaker 1: gems was about milk. You know you're old when somebody 1111 01:00:04,840 --> 01:00:12,960 Speaker 1: calls regular milk classic milk. Blat milk as we've gone 1112 01:00:13,000 --> 01:00:16,760 Speaker 1: from skim to Sawyer to almond and now out just 1113 01:00:16,800 --> 01:00:24,000 Speaker 1: a nice loss of classic milk? Classic? Oh man? What 1114 01:00:24,040 --> 01:00:26,840 Speaker 1: could be better? Fout out to classic milk? You know 1115 01:00:27,320 --> 01:00:30,960 Speaker 1: all about the classics? You know, Joel? How about you? 1116 01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:33,200 Speaker 1: Where you at, where they follow you? Where they here you? 1117 01:00:33,280 --> 01:00:35,720 Speaker 1: What's the tweets you like? Joel? Money? You can follow 1118 01:00:35,760 --> 01:00:37,800 Speaker 1: me all over the internet. Actual money gets j O 1119 01:00:37,840 --> 01:00:39,760 Speaker 1: E l O E m O N I Q you 1120 01:00:40,840 --> 01:00:45,200 Speaker 1: some class of tweets. Alan Macon the Genius tweeted yesterday 1121 01:00:45,200 --> 01:00:47,320 Speaker 1: I strongly opposed to don't say gable in Florida. I 1122 01:00:47,360 --> 01:00:49,320 Speaker 1: hope my friends and colleagues within the Disney family will 1123 01:00:49,360 --> 01:00:53,280 Speaker 1: join me and saying so publicly, calm collect your folks, 1124 01:00:53,360 --> 01:00:56,520 Speaker 1: Disney people all the time is now. You have to 1125 01:00:56,520 --> 01:00:59,880 Speaker 1: make change or children will die. Andrea J. Philips tweeted 1126 01:01:00,120 --> 01:01:02,080 Speaker 1: dropping my son off at high school this am and 1127 01:01:02,120 --> 01:01:04,960 Speaker 1: noticed every student was using both straps. That said, when 1128 01:01:05,000 --> 01:01:07,480 Speaker 1: I was in high school eighties, early nineties, everyone were 1129 01:01:07,520 --> 01:01:10,120 Speaker 1: their backpacks slung over one shoulder, and it's considered the 1130 01:01:10,120 --> 01:01:13,200 Speaker 1: height of nerdiness to use both straps. Please back me up, 1131 01:01:13,560 --> 01:01:16,440 Speaker 1: to which I say, ay, yes, I was there and 1132 01:01:16,480 --> 01:01:17,920 Speaker 1: I saw it, and that was real. You did not 1133 01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:20,520 Speaker 1: imagine it, Andrea, we were only using one strap. But 1134 01:01:20,560 --> 01:01:23,080 Speaker 1: on the other hand, I really hope children continue to 1135 01:01:23,160 --> 01:01:25,080 Speaker 1: use both straps. You don't need back problems in your 1136 01:01:25,080 --> 01:01:28,200 Speaker 1: early twenties. It's stupid. Okay, your books are very heavy. 1137 01:01:28,400 --> 01:01:30,840 Speaker 1: Use both straps. Don't let people consider you a nerd. 1138 01:01:31,160 --> 01:01:32,840 Speaker 1: Live for ee children. You guys are doing so much 1139 01:01:32,880 --> 01:01:34,680 Speaker 1: better than we did. I'm so proud of you. I 1140 01:01:34,720 --> 01:01:37,760 Speaker 1: remember when people started, like I remember rollie bags starting 1141 01:01:37,760 --> 01:01:39,360 Speaker 1: to showing up like there at the end of my 1142 01:01:39,440 --> 01:01:42,760 Speaker 1: academia career, and I was like, you will get flom 1143 01:01:43,000 --> 01:01:46,560 Speaker 1: bade pulling up in here with that old grandma's grocery 1144 01:01:46,600 --> 01:01:50,040 Speaker 1: card of a backpack. Are you serious? Not a home 1145 01:01:50,120 --> 01:01:52,360 Speaker 1: on everybody walk with one droopy shoulder because you got 1146 01:01:52,400 --> 01:01:55,640 Speaker 1: seventy pounds of books on one party your body. Messenger 1147 01:01:55,640 --> 01:01:58,200 Speaker 1: bags came into fashion. When I hit high school, had 1148 01:01:58,280 --> 01:01:59,960 Speaker 1: one bagged. My mother should got me a nice let 1149 01:02:00,000 --> 01:02:03,720 Speaker 1: their one. It was pretty so much so much. It 1150 01:02:03,840 --> 01:02:07,160 Speaker 1: was not even distribution. Noope, did not help. Really really 1151 01:02:07,200 --> 01:02:10,280 Speaker 1: left me up, especially a kid who didn't go. I 1152 01:02:10,480 --> 01:02:13,200 Speaker 1: barely went to my locker because that would eat into 1153 01:02:13,240 --> 01:02:15,520 Speaker 1: my time during in between class like during nutrition, just 1154 01:02:15,560 --> 01:02:17,800 Speaker 1: sunk around my friends. So I carried all my books 1155 01:02:17,840 --> 01:02:21,640 Speaker 1: at once, and that ship was a nightmare. I strategically 1156 01:02:21,680 --> 01:02:24,600 Speaker 1: left my books in different classrooms because teachers liked me. 1157 01:02:24,960 --> 01:02:26,960 Speaker 1: I'll be like, yo, man, can I just keep my 1158 01:02:27,000 --> 01:02:29,040 Speaker 1: books in here? And they'd be like, yeah, that's chill, 1159 01:02:29,360 --> 01:02:31,880 Speaker 1: thank you. Teachers be like, hey, let me get your book. Teach. 1160 01:02:31,920 --> 01:02:33,720 Speaker 1: They're like, that's the teachers that I'm like, just shut 1161 01:02:33,840 --> 01:02:42,439 Speaker 1: up your cool, right, not just oh man. Let's see 1162 01:02:42,440 --> 01:02:45,960 Speaker 1: some treets I like. First one is from Amber Nelson 1163 01:02:46,040 --> 01:02:49,720 Speaker 1: at Amber Smelson tweeted got invited to someone's place for 1164 01:02:49,800 --> 01:02:53,760 Speaker 1: dinner and they charged me for it. This is weird, right, Yes, 1165 01:02:53,840 --> 01:02:55,640 Speaker 1: that is weird. You do not get You do not 1166 01:02:55,840 --> 01:03:00,320 Speaker 1: invite someone to your home and then charge them. That 1167 01:03:00,360 --> 01:03:03,560 Speaker 1: goes against everything I know about the art of invitations 1168 01:03:03,600 --> 01:03:08,080 Speaker 1: and hospitality. I don't of the relationship. Would you bring 1169 01:03:08,080 --> 01:03:10,240 Speaker 1: it up if someone did that too, Like, would you say, hey, 1170 01:03:10,240 --> 01:03:13,760 Speaker 1: what are you fucking wild? What is this? Or would 1171 01:03:13,800 --> 01:03:15,440 Speaker 1: you just say I'm not talking to them forever? No, 1172 01:03:15,520 --> 01:03:17,400 Speaker 1: I'm a receipts person. Let me pull on my phone. 1173 01:03:17,720 --> 01:03:19,080 Speaker 1: Did they ask me to pay and I missed it? 1174 01:03:19,120 --> 01:03:21,600 Speaker 1: I got a d D D as possible? No, just a 1175 01:03:21,640 --> 01:03:25,400 Speaker 1: straight invite. What's going on? What happened here? Needing money? 1176 01:03:25,400 --> 01:03:27,520 Speaker 1: Are you okay? We gotta have a conversation about it 1177 01:03:27,520 --> 01:03:31,080 Speaker 1: because I'm not handing over money freely. I need When 1178 01:03:31,240 --> 01:03:32,880 Speaker 1: they say and then they hit you with this, well, 1179 01:03:32,920 --> 01:03:35,760 Speaker 1: I mean like honestly, like I mean like the alcohol 1180 01:03:36,000 --> 01:03:38,640 Speaker 1: was really expensive, and like the ingredients were like I 1181 01:03:38,680 --> 01:03:41,000 Speaker 1: spent like a hundred fifty bucks at the grocery store. 1182 01:03:41,320 --> 01:03:44,760 Speaker 1: So okay, cool, here's the bottle of wine I brought. 1183 01:03:45,320 --> 01:03:48,200 Speaker 1: Enjoy it also wasn't cheap because I'm not cheap and 1184 01:03:48,240 --> 01:03:50,280 Speaker 1: I'll be out. Actually, let me let me let me 1185 01:03:50,320 --> 01:03:52,840 Speaker 1: just tally up all the bottles I've brought, the bottles 1186 01:03:52,840 --> 01:03:55,600 Speaker 1: of wine I've brought to your house over the last year. 1187 01:03:55,720 --> 01:04:01,000 Speaker 1: So actually, you know what, right exactly exactly, get out 1188 01:04:01,000 --> 01:04:03,800 Speaker 1: of here, come on be more Hospitable, folks, uh, and 1189 01:04:03,800 --> 01:04:07,000 Speaker 1: then at Forever Wildon, at Forever while and underscore tooted 1190 01:04:07,280 --> 01:04:10,439 Speaker 1: introvers be like I know a spot and then go home. 1191 01:04:11,040 --> 01:04:14,520 Speaker 1: Yeah it's true. I do know a spot and it's 1192 01:04:14,600 --> 01:04:17,800 Speaker 1: my house and that place it fucking this, it goes off. 1193 01:04:18,520 --> 01:04:21,400 Speaker 1: So shout out to all my introverts out there. You 1194 01:04:21,440 --> 01:04:23,840 Speaker 1: can find me at Miles of Gray on Twitter and Instagram. Also, 1195 01:04:23,880 --> 01:04:26,800 Speaker 1: the other pod four twenty day Fiance was Sophia Alexandra. 1196 01:04:26,800 --> 01:04:28,640 Speaker 1: If you like ninety day Fiance and married the first 1197 01:04:28,640 --> 01:04:30,640 Speaker 1: sight of them trash reality shows, that's what That's where 1198 01:04:30,640 --> 01:04:33,560 Speaker 1: I blow my steam off. Okay watching those shows, so 1199 01:04:33,600 --> 01:04:36,040 Speaker 1: come hear me talk about those. You can find us 1200 01:04:36,040 --> 01:04:38,320 Speaker 1: at Daily zekeis on Twitter at the Daily z eyekeis 1201 01:04:38,400 --> 01:04:40,040 Speaker 1: on Instagram. We've got a Facebook fan page, We've got 1202 01:04:40,040 --> 01:04:42,120 Speaker 1: a Westie, We've got daisy guys dot com. I'm pretty 1203 01:04:42,120 --> 01:04:44,400 Speaker 1: sure at least the probably we got the the U 1204 01:04:44,520 --> 01:04:46,400 Speaker 1: r L parked on. I don't know. Look, don't worry 1205 01:04:46,400 --> 01:04:48,160 Speaker 1: about it, but you go there. You can find all 1206 01:04:48,160 --> 01:04:53,040 Speaker 1: our episodes and our footnotes notes may you Joel, where 1207 01:04:53,160 --> 01:04:56,400 Speaker 1: we also post everything we talked about today as well 1208 01:04:56,440 --> 01:04:59,640 Speaker 1: as the song we ride out on, I want to 1209 01:04:59,640 --> 01:05:04,040 Speaker 1: go out on the track from Liam Bailey. Liam Bailey 1210 01:05:04,080 --> 01:05:07,480 Speaker 1: is slowly becoming one of my new favorite artists. Born 1211 01:05:07,560 --> 01:05:12,120 Speaker 1: in Nottingham, UK. He's English and Caribbean because he's like 1212 01:05:12,160 --> 01:05:16,080 Speaker 1: English parents Caribbean parents coming together just playing like it's 1213 01:05:16,120 --> 01:05:19,240 Speaker 1: like a fantastic singer songwriter, but also has like this 1214 01:05:19,360 --> 01:05:23,520 Speaker 1: really great knack for putting on like older sort of 1215 01:05:23,560 --> 01:05:25,960 Speaker 1: aesthetic sounds on his work to make it sound like 1216 01:05:26,120 --> 01:05:29,320 Speaker 1: of a older period. But he's so creative and really 1217 01:05:29,320 --> 01:05:32,479 Speaker 1: really fantastic artists. So check Liam Bailey out with This 1218 01:05:32,680 --> 01:05:35,240 Speaker 1: track from Liam Bailey that we're going out on is 1219 01:05:35,240 --> 01:05:39,640 Speaker 1: called Champion from the album Ekundo. So check this song out. 1220 01:05:39,680 --> 01:05:41,800 Speaker 1: It's really dope, has like a lot of nice little 1221 01:05:41,880 --> 01:05:44,720 Speaker 1: roads piano playing on it. But yeah, that's we're gonna 1222 01:05:44,720 --> 01:05:46,960 Speaker 1: write out on. And like this is a production of 1223 01:05:46,960 --> 01:05:48,680 Speaker 1: My Heart Radio. So for more podcast Got the Heart 1224 01:05:48,760 --> 01:05:51,160 Speaker 1: radiop wherever you get your podcast free, see you later 1225 01:05:51,200 --> 01:05:53,880 Speaker 1: talk about what's trending. Until then, have a good week y'all. 1226 01:05:53,920 --> 01:05:54,920 Speaker 1: Buy he