Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Molly John Fast and this is Fast Politics,
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Speaker 2: We have another star studded show for you today. Senator
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Speaker 2: we'll talk to Minnesota Attorney General Keith Ellison about how
Speaker 2: Tim Walls figures into the masculine discussion in the election. Next,
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Speaker 2: of the Senate in twenty twenty four. And lastly we
Speaker 2: have Pennsylvania Lieutenant Governor Austin Davis will tell us about
Speaker 2: what happens when the government actually works for the people.
Speaker 2: But first, we have a portion from Politics as Unusual's
Speaker 2: live show in San Francisco at the Swedish American Hall,
Speaker 2: where Rick and Bally did some disgusting of politics and
Speaker 2: answered a few of the audience's questions.
Speaker 3: We're going to play that for you.
Speaker 4: Now we're going to talk about media malpractice here.
Speaker 1: There were reports that said Trump agrees to three debates, right,
Speaker 1: he just made that up. He was like, we're gonna
Speaker 1: go Fox News debate. No one had agreed to a
Speaker 1: Fox foxers.
Speaker 3: Didn't know anything about it. But he was like, we
Speaker 3: will debate on Greenland, the ice sheet. It will fight
Speaker 3: to the death with knives.
Speaker 1: And then the debate that had been agreed upon was
Speaker 1: the ABC debate. But then he was saying, wow, George, right,
Speaker 1: stop Adams. He doesn't like him. He's very unfair. He
Speaker 1: asked very unfair questions. It's very unfair.
Speaker 3: He's super fair. He's nasty.
Speaker 1: He's a nasty man. But he had agreed on it.
Speaker 1: Now they're back and forth on muting the mics. But
Speaker 1: the truth is, and again this is the mainstream media problem.
Speaker 1: Nothing take you take Donald Trump at his word.
Speaker 4: You lose right, like he is never so I mean it?
Speaker 1: So I think you know, does he do it? So
Speaker 1: here's the question. He needs to change the narrative. So
Speaker 1: he wants to do this debate because right now he
Speaker 1: is just cratering in the polls and she's doing better
Speaker 1: and better.
Speaker 3: His people are petrified that he's going to do this debate.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yes, they are doing everything they can to poison the well.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 4: I think his kids, yeah.
Speaker 3: I think the kids too. But inside his campaign, they
Speaker 3: are paralyzed with fear right now because they know there's
Speaker 3: a really meaningful possibility. And we've got a betting pool
Speaker 3: inside the Lincoln Project of when he's gonna say the
Speaker 3: N word, and you know he's gonna. He's so tempted
Speaker 3: because she's everything he hates. She's black, she's smarter than
Speaker 3: he is, she's a prosecutor, she's better on camera, she's
Speaker 3: a woman.
Speaker 4: And remember when he said, Johnald Trump.
Speaker 3: Said, I believe I'm better looking than come L. Harris.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he got very obsessed with that drawing in the Times.
Speaker 4: Jesse is madded, he's, oh no, he's happy with us.
Speaker 3: Oh good, he's happy.
Speaker 6: Are you happy?
Speaker 3: All right? Well good? And that means I don't have
Speaker 3: to wear the shot collar on the next show.
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly right, the lightning.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean I think that thing where he
Speaker 1: was like that Time magazine, she looks so beautiful. The
Speaker 1: drawing was so good. Why was the drawing so good?
Speaker 1: I never have such a good drawing.
Speaker 3: So my friend Maya May who co hosts the show
Speaker 3: with me, we were in Chicago and we're sitting there
Speaker 3: talking at dinner the first night of the convention, and
Speaker 3: she looks at me. She goes, oh my god, I
Speaker 3: figured it out. Like what she's like, he wants to
Speaker 3: fuck her? And I was like, no, oh wait, oh wait,
Speaker 3: because this guy is he is just that shallow. He
Speaker 3: is just that superficial.
Speaker 1: And would you rather be with Trump or Dougie? I'd
Speaker 1: rather be with Douggie.
Speaker 3: Listen, Douggie Dougie as a fellow ball bro. We have
Speaker 3: to up the charm when we lose the hair.
Speaker 1: He's got games, He's got Dougie's got game.
Speaker 4: I mean it's also possible that Trump is bald too. Oh,
Speaker 4: I mean, not to that.
Speaker 3: Whatever that confection of like sprayed lemur fur on his
Speaker 3: head is, I don't think of it is give it
Speaker 3: his hair?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, so Trump, So okay, let's do this right now.
Speaker 1: And if we're wrong, you can yell at us. Does
Speaker 1: he debate?
Speaker 4: Yes or no?
Speaker 3: He debates because he can't resist the spotlight? Jesus, he
Speaker 3: is he is addicted. He is addicted to attention, like
Speaker 3: the worst possible addiction you can imagine.
Speaker 4: And does he lose Oh god, yeah.
Speaker 3: All right now, I will say this though. I will
Speaker 3: say this.
Speaker 4: Though, Does it meanstream media cover it like he won.
Speaker 3: Yes, they will say, mister Trump presented his points forcefully,
Speaker 3: when Donald Trump is basically going to be like a
Speaker 3: monkey in the zoo throwing his feces right right. But
Speaker 3: here's where I think she really has to win this debate.
Speaker 3: She will intellectually crush this guy. She will roll him
Speaker 3: over because he will say the Buddha, the Buddha's She'll
Speaker 3: go at him, she'll tear him apart. She's a prosecutor.
Speaker 3: The one thing she has to watch out for is
Speaker 3: Trump doing his big foot act the work when he
Speaker 3: comes over. And I'll tell you, I'll tell you. I
Speaker 3: know you guys don't like George W. Bush, But there's
Speaker 3: a debate thing, not a politics thing. When you wait
Speaker 3: a second, it's important. When al Gore whipped his ass
Speaker 3: in the first debate in Boston, and I was there,
Speaker 3: it was bad. It was ugly. The next debate, al
Speaker 3: Gore was kind of cocky, and he walked out from
Speaker 3: behind his podium. He walks over towards the W and
Speaker 3: W's got about's about two feet shorter than than al Gore.
Speaker 3: But w stepped out from behind his podium and did
Speaker 3: this little thing step up to me that physicality means
Speaker 3: something people watch, that sort of thing. She needs when
Speaker 3: Donald Trump start starts hovering over her to turn around
Speaker 3: and put her finger in his chest and get the
Speaker 3: fuck back.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And and and this is the way in which Harris
Speaker 1: is very different than than Biden by far.
Speaker 4: She will she.
Speaker 1: Will tell him to you know, and that and I
Speaker 1: think that's a real one of the things we don't
Speaker 1: talk about.
Speaker 3: I would if I were her, I would say, Donald,
Speaker 3: get the get the hell back from me. I'm not
Speaker 3: one of your victims.
Speaker 4: Right. Well, she just also.
Speaker 3: See I'm good at this ship. I know what I'm doing.
Speaker 1: Yes, but she also just is is much tougher. I
Speaker 1: mean again, we're not Biden was. It has been a
Speaker 1: spectacular president, maybe one of the best presidents of my lifetime.
Speaker 4: And and you know.
Speaker 3: The man when you look at the hand he was
Speaker 3: dealt coming in soft landing, right, we had an economic
Speaker 3: soft one in here.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: He got us out of the the burning building of COVID.
Speaker 3: He passed three big significant piece of legislation that actually
Speaker 3: mean something. Yeah, got him done in a bipartisan fashion,
Speaker 3: which nobody gives him credit for doing. And at the
Speaker 3: end of it.
Speaker 1: Took really horrible personal attacks and at his living children.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, and at the end of the day probably made
Speaker 3: one of the most courageous personal decisions you can imagine. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I can't, I can't.
Speaker 4: But yes, so, but but he's not as tough as
Speaker 4: she is.
Speaker 3: But so the question on the question before this house
Speaker 3: is will Donald Trump debate? I think he will because
Speaker 3: he's an addict.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and and needs to change the storyline, right, he
Speaker 4: needs to change it.
Speaker 1: I think you will too, because he needs to change
Speaker 1: and I just think it's too hard for him to
Speaker 1: say no.
Speaker 3: But the other part of it, too is Trump is
Speaker 3: nervous about it. We know this from inside the campaign.
Speaker 3: We know this from reporting because here's the thing. He
Speaker 3: won the lottery in that debate. He had a million
Speaker 3: to one night that much. Yeah, where nothing went right
Speaker 3: for Joe Biden. And it was at the.
Speaker 4: End, so it wasn't great. You saw the if you read.
Speaker 3: The transcript of Trump, you think he was a guy
Speaker 3: who'd been out back of the waffle house drinking plastic
Speaker 3: bottle vodka for a couple of hours. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And also, and if you looked at undecided voters in
Speaker 1: the focus groups, they didn't like him.
Speaker 3: No, yeah, so we we we you know. Look, I
Speaker 3: think he does it. I think he's gonna get whipped.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And if he if he gets whipped in the first one,
Speaker 3: if he gets whipped in the first one, as I anticipate.
Speaker 4: He will, yeah, then he drops.
Speaker 3: We'll spend the rest of the campaign golfing. Yeah, he'll
Speaker 3: check out his ego. Is that weird?
Speaker 4: Yeah? But I also think he But he also doesn't
Speaker 4: really have the end.
Speaker 1: I mean, one of the things you see is he's
Speaker 1: not really traveling in this.
Speaker 3: The guy golfs three days a week, and one of
Speaker 3: our sources inside their world the other day. It's the
Speaker 3: same person, clearly who told the Times they really wanted
Speaker 3: him to not watch the convention and so and so
Speaker 3: he was watching it on the golf course on his phone. Yeah,
Speaker 3: he was watching it in the residence at Bedminster on
Speaker 3: his phone and was firing off all those thirty truths.
Speaker 4: During Harris's speech, all I can say is, is.
Speaker 1: She talking about me?
Speaker 3: About me? I might know, Donald, And she's not going
Speaker 3: to go to the prom with you either.
Speaker 1: My favorite one, my favorite one was The War's Hunter.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, buddy, like that was a that was a
Speaker 1: different guy.
Speaker 3: Look, Donald has lost his mojo on social media. He's
Speaker 3: on trash social every day. His dollar store knockoff of Twitter.
Speaker 3: By the way, I will never call it X. You
Speaker 3: can hook me up to jumper cables and I'm never
Speaker 3: calling it X. It's Twitter till I die.
Speaker 1: Oh wait, all right, since let's do like two minutes
Speaker 1: on tech. We're both ter blonde tech, so let's do it.
Speaker 1: Does Elon end up keeping acts or Twitter?
Speaker 4: Or do you think it ends up?
Speaker 3: Look? I think he's going to continue to It's going
Speaker 3: to continue to spiral down on ad rev. It's it's
Speaker 3: I don't know why, call me crazy, but big brands
Speaker 3: don't want to be on the same Twitter page as
Speaker 3: as four eighty eight, you know, or whatever this neo
Speaker 3: Nazi of the day. Look, the guy's retweeting like actual
Speaker 3: neo Nazis. Come on, your brand is being poisoned. Linda Yakarino,
Speaker 3: that's her last job in the world as CEO of
Speaker 3: Twitter because.
Speaker 4: She could not well deserve, right, you could.
Speaker 3: She could not get hired as a secretariat a roofing
Speaker 3: firm in Palatka, Florida after this. I mean, it's just bad.
Speaker 3: But look he's going to grind it out. As long
Speaker 3: as he can keep Tesla afloat, he'll still have cash
Speaker 3: flow for the rest of his life. And sustaining Twitter
Speaker 3: is different than buying it, right, And so he's gonna
Speaker 3: keep it because it's his vanity project now and it's
Speaker 3: his way to finally feel like the girls like him.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yes, it's true. We've gone way over, haven't way No,
Speaker 4: we haven't.
Speaker 7: Okay, never mind, Why hasn't Kamala Harris put out a
Speaker 7: platform on her website?
Speaker 3: Who cares? Yeah, honestly, who gives a shit? Yeah you
Speaker 3: heard it on the speech. Let me tell you why
Speaker 3: she doesn't do a platform Because when I was a
Speaker 3: Republican and the Democrats put out a plan for climate
Speaker 3: or healthcare, guns or any other thing, they'd always be
Speaker 3: like seven hundred pages long. You know what I would do.
Speaker 3: I'd get ten in turns. I'd lock him in a room,
Speaker 3: feed him fucking Domino's pizza, and say find me twenty
Speaker 3: seven things that scare grandma.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So when the Green New Deal bill was running around,
Speaker 3: what do they do? You can't have hamburgers or fly
Speaker 3: on airplanes, you have to eat insectlaws. They always find
Speaker 3: something scary to be weaponized forget about it. Yeah, Barack
Speaker 3: Obama didn't have a policy section on his website. He
Speaker 3: had three things. Hope change, Yes, we can, that's it.
Speaker 3: Don't play that game, don't fall into the trap. Policy
Speaker 3: is death in presidential campaigns.
Speaker 4: All right, I'll take it. It's a bumper sticker.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, Okay, I'm gonna break up the questions everybody
Speaker 7: was asking because we got a great one from Jennifer lindsay,
Speaker 7: how do you guys think Steve Bannon's doing?
Speaker 3: This?
Speaker 4: Is like just a question for reck.
Speaker 3: Rerick.
Speaker 4: Where is Steve Bannon right now?
Speaker 3: Steve Bannon isn't in made in the Danbury Federal Correctional
Speaker 3: Facility in Danbury, Connecticut and recently received a copy of
Speaker 3: my book Everything Frump, such as dies.
Speaker 4: Are you really?
Speaker 3: I sent it to him. I did that to Paul
Speaker 3: Mannifert when he was in prison, too, and it amused
Speaker 3: me so much I had to do it again. I
Speaker 3: also encourage my followers on Twitter to send Steve Bannon
Speaker 3: as much Japanese tentacle porn as they could find, because
Speaker 3: what could go wrong? Now Steve will be out of
Speaker 3: prison in a for the election in about four weeks,
Speaker 3: five weeks, but he's immediately going on trial for his
Speaker 3: Build the Wall fraud. There's another guy that depends on
Speaker 3: Donald Trump to save his ass. And and look, I'll
Speaker 3: say this about Steve Bannon. That is a second rate
Speaker 3: intellect with a first rate a degree of malice, And
Speaker 3: the malice is made up for a lot of the
Speaker 3: lack of intellect. He is a guy who really believes
Speaker 3: fervently he is an outright nationalist populist. He believes that
Speaker 3: America is a blood and soil country of white Christians
Speaker 3: and not a not a propositional nation that from the beginning,
Speaker 3: as flawed as our beginning was, was designed to allow
Speaker 3: people to become Americans, no matter where they were born,
Speaker 3: of what God they worshiped. So Bannon can fuck right off.
Speaker 3: And I hope he enjoys another prison term after this
Speaker 3: prison term.
Speaker 4: So tell us what you really think.
Speaker 3: Well, I think he's gonna come out of jail like
Speaker 3: that scene in Zulander two with he's ripped his hell,
Speaker 3: got a big Nazi swastika tattoo with an eagle on
Speaker 3: it on his chest right between his moves. All right, Jesse,
Speaker 3: that was light prison segment. I enjoyed it personally.
Speaker 7: I often think about Steve Banned suffering for many years
Speaker 7: because I've had to suffer by listening to his fucking
Speaker 7: podcast to clip things.
Speaker 3: Okay, can I ask you a technical question? Yeah, I
Speaker 3: record five podcasts a week. I'm exhausted by that shit.
Speaker 3: How does Steve Bannon, aside from methanhetamine, get on that
Speaker 3: goddamn podcast and talk for like seventeen hours a day? Yeah?
Speaker 7: I think we all know this that you once called
Speaker 7: him a thing that stuck with me, the human skin tag. Yes,
Speaker 7: the podcasting feeds the skin tags.
Speaker 3: He was like a bag of suet Rancid sue. Okay,
Speaker 3: well I think he's right.
Speaker 4: You're done.
Speaker 7: Okay, So a conversation Molly and I had. How many
Speaker 7: of you watched the Tim Walls talking to Kamala YouTube video?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 7: I thought it was one of the most genius videos
Speaker 7: I've ever seen. But she is clearly not doing as
Speaker 7: many mainstream interviews as many people would like.
Speaker 3: What do you two think of this?
Speaker 1: I think they could fuck right off. I honestly, Chris Solizza, who.
Speaker 3: Is on this, Lena, you're doing that later? You're doing
Speaker 3: that later?
Speaker 6: I want to remember I.
Speaker 3: Said that campaigns were an unknown geography. I believe they
Speaker 3: should proceed to the valley where all my fucks have died,
Speaker 3: lay down on the ground, and let nature take its course,
Speaker 3: and the buzzard should pick their their skin. The interviews
Speaker 3: are a trap, right, don't play their game, play game, yeah,
Speaker 3: and go out do big rallies.
Speaker 1: And you know it is actually in a lot of
Speaker 1: cases it's good to give interviews.
Speaker 4: I have to say this because I know you did
Speaker 4: where my bread is buttered.
Speaker 1: But in this case, with American democracy on the line
Speaker 1: and seventy days to go and the mainstream media really
Speaker 1: treating the two as the same, I think she should
Speaker 1: just tell them to book run off.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's there's no upside.
Speaker 4: There's no upside for her, and all upside for that.
Speaker 3: And by the way, again to look back on the
Speaker 3: policy question for a second, if she had a policy
Speaker 3: document for every big subject and then she did an interview,
Speaker 3: they would say, well, on page seventy four of your
Speaker 3: climate plan, you say that it's three hundred and twenty
Speaker 3: five point two parts per billion of carbon, and your
Speaker 3: plans since it's three hundred and forty and I think,
Speaker 3: I mean, they will play that game right point where
Speaker 3: it just becomes this exhausting Washington circle jerk media game.
Speaker 1: And I think it's worth pointing out that Donald Trump
Speaker 1: does have a policy plan. It's called Project twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1: It mentions his name three hundred plus times.
Speaker 4: It's written by many.
Speaker 1: People who've worked for him, and he's like, I have
Speaker 1: nothing to do with it one hundred and.
Speaker 3: Forty four authors, ninety three or former Trump administrational campaign officials. Yeah,
Speaker 3: so he has nothing to do with Project.
Speaker 4: Oh no, absolutely nothing.
Speaker 7: It's almost like, if you want to learn more or
Speaker 7: show somebody more about Project twenty twenty five, you could
Speaker 7: go onto YouTube and.
Speaker 3: Write Molly Jong Fast.
Speaker 7: Project twenty twenty five documentary is an excellency excellent.
Speaker 1: Series, mostly with a lot of heavy lifting from Jassing.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 7: Thanks, Okay, another media question. All of us know Trump
Speaker 7: is not mentally well. He's George is doing lots of
Speaker 7: things about his psychiatric.
Speaker 4: Right, the psychopath.
Speaker 3: Yes, you can't call it well being. It's bad to being.
Speaker 7: Why do you think the mainstream media can't say those
Speaker 7: words the same way they can't say many things?
Speaker 3: And is there any way to get them to do
Speaker 3: it clicks and eyeballs. Trump is great for business, right,
Speaker 3: He's great for business. Yeah, And if you made him crazy,
Speaker 3: if you said he is mentally ill, if you spoke
Speaker 3: the truth and said Donald Trump has a suite of
Speaker 3: mental illnesses that are going to eventually involve thousands of
Speaker 3: psychiatrists writing new volumes of the DSM, it would disqualify
Speaker 3: the ability of the press to treat them as equals.
Speaker 3: They want you to think this is a standard Republican
Speaker 3: and a standard Democrat, and they want you to think
Speaker 3: that's the frame. And if you really admitted that Trump
Speaker 3: was that crazy, you can't hold that frame anymore.
Speaker 1: I also think that mainstream media is terrified of being
Speaker 1: called partisans working the refs, right.
Speaker 4: So they say, well, you know.
Speaker 1: And I think also the the cravenness and the craziness
Speaker 1: of Trump has really caught a lot of the mainstream
Speaker 1: media flat footed, like they just didn't know how to
Speaker 1: write those kind of stories without feeling that they were
Speaker 1: outing themselves as liberal.
Speaker 3: There's like a lot of yeah, Wow, there's like a.
Speaker 4: Lot it's yeah, it's ridiculous. I agree, there's a lot.
Speaker 3: Of Stockholm syndrome with these reporters too, and they're trapped
Speaker 3: in this they're trapped in this thing. I mean, if
Speaker 3: you want Trump to call you on your cell phone
Speaker 3: and then journalism and if you want him to give you,
Speaker 3: you know, the inside story. Because by the way, half
Speaker 3: the leaks in the Trump administration are from Donald Trump, right,
Speaker 3: literally half of them. Yeah, John John Barty.
Speaker 4: Right, and Kelly Ann that's right.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: By the way, Kelly Ann really hates me.
Speaker 3: She really hates me too.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Oh oh wow, that's allow.
Speaker 3: I have spent entire seconds worrying about that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, not me.
Speaker 8: Yeah, yes, the feeling is robust, yes, yes, Okay, North Carolina, Florida, Rick,
Speaker 8: you know the South.
Speaker 3: What do you see there? What do you think could
Speaker 3: happen in this election there? I think Georgia too. Yeah,
Speaker 3: that's good point.
Speaker 4: North Carolina, Georgia should be the question.
Speaker 3: Yeah. North Carolina and Georgia are on our list now
Speaker 3: they weren't before she's opened those up. And I'll tell
Speaker 3: you three three big things to watch for in Georgia.
Speaker 3: When Reverend Warnock was on the ballot, we saw African
Speaker 3: American voter turn out increase dramatically. We're about to see
Speaker 3: the same thing in Georgia, our models showing it already
Speaker 3: starting to pop. The other thing we've noticed in Georgia,
Speaker 3: and we went out identified a group that the Democrats
Speaker 3: have very much taken for granted, and rightly so, because
Speaker 3: they voted with them one hundred percent of the time.
Speaker 3: Basically that exists in the Atlanta metro area at scale,
Speaker 3: as in few other places. There's a very very large
Speaker 3: cohort of professional African American women in the Atlanta metro area. Okay.
Speaker 3: It's called the Doughnut of counties around Atlanta, Okay. And
Speaker 3: in the Doughnut, in four of those counties, three of them,
Speaker 3: particularly Fulton, Chatham and cab you have enormous numbers of
Speaker 3: professional African American women. They are fired up for Connell
Speaker 3: Harris for a good reason. They also are are part
Speaker 3: of the HBCU Divine nine sorority culture, which Trump of
Speaker 3: course called very unimportant. Good play. Donald might want to
Speaker 3: roll David Duke out again if you're gonna keep up
Speaker 3: that one, Donald, But so Georgia is going to be
Speaker 3: a place where we think is now a state that
Speaker 3: is in the winnable category. A lot of work can
Speaker 3: be done, a very hard slog ahead, but sixty five
Speaker 3: percent of the vote in Georgia comes out of the donut.
Speaker 3: The red parts of Georgia are like the northeast Frontier
Speaker 3: province of Pakistan. They're so conservative. The Donut is a
Speaker 3: purple area of the state, and there's also a purple
Speaker 3: area of the state in Savannah. And in Savannah that's
Speaker 3: where a lot of our Lincoln Project Republican voters live.
Speaker 3: More affluent, more educated, much more moderate. So we think
Speaker 3: George is moving into the winnable category. North Carolina, the Robinson,
Speaker 3: the governor's candidate the Republican Party, I call him rabid
Speaker 3: Tim Scott. He is not good is he is completely bonkers.
Speaker 4: And he's running about ten points He's.
Speaker 3: Running about ten points behind. We rarely see the down
Speaker 3: ballot candidate kill the presidential candidate, but we may see
Speaker 3: that in North Carolina. Also, nor the.
Speaker 1: Legacy of trump Ism. Now, you know, you pick these
Speaker 1: terrible candidates and it.
Speaker 3: Just are Yeah, they're always going to pick the trash
Speaker 3: because Trump likes the trash, and so you're gonna end up.
Speaker 3: I think North Carolina is very much in play. My
Speaker 3: home state of Florida. It is a much closer race
Speaker 3: than it was expected to be. It is now about
Speaker 3: a three point race in Florida. Don't get your hopes
Speaker 3: up yet. But the positive part about Florida being close
Speaker 3: and by the way, she's tied in Palm Beach and
Speaker 3: fifteen points ahead and two surveys, one private, one public
Speaker 3: in Miami Day now Miami Dade, Miami Miami Dade, Broward
Speaker 3: and Palm Beach. When you add those three counties up,
Speaker 3: it's fifty four percent of the likely voter turnout in Florida.
Speaker 3: Does that mean you're gonna win? No, because the rest
Speaker 3: of Florida again northwesterront Here, province of Pakistan, crazy red.
Speaker 3: But Florida is in play in one big place in
Speaker 3: the country and that's in Trump's brain. They are starting
Speaker 3: to spend money in Florida, which is like building a
Speaker 3: bonfire on top of a volcano. You were gonna burn
Speaker 3: through money like nobody's business. And that's what he's doing now.
Speaker 3: And if he's spending money.
Speaker 4: This does it makes him feel better?
Speaker 3: He wants to. He wants he wants the guys in
Speaker 3: the golf club at Durrow and at mar A Lago
Speaker 3: to watch his ads on TV. I'm not kidding you
Speaker 3: by one of the greatest tricks I've ever pulled. I
Speaker 3: run a lot of my ads wherever he is at
Speaker 3: his clubs on the golf channel, because those some bitches
Speaker 3: in the golf club at the end of their round,
Speaker 3: they're watching it. They see an AD and they're all.
Speaker 4: Like, mister Trump, mister Trump.
Speaker 3: They're running a terrible He knows it. It's already been
Speaker 3: running on his phone for three days, but it is.
Speaker 3: It's a constant. Like you do enough of those, it's
Speaker 3: like getting shanked in prison. So well, we.
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Speaker 1: Welcome to Fast Politics. Senator Jilli Brown, how are you.
Speaker 3: I'm good.
Speaker 4: Tell us your plan for the Equal Rights Amendment.
Speaker 5: So most people don't realize this, but almost all the
Speaker 5: work is done to have the twenty eighth Amendment be
Speaker 5: the Equal Rights Amendment.
Speaker 4: It got two.
Speaker 5: Thirds House and Senate votes in the nineteen seventies. You
Speaker 5: don't have to do it again. Check The second thing
Speaker 5: Article five of the Constitution requires for an amendment is
Speaker 5: three quarters of the states have to ratify. The thirty
Speaker 5: eighth state that ratified it was Virginia in twenty twenty.
Speaker 5: So you ask, why isn't it the twentieth Amendment. Well,
Speaker 5: unfortunately Trump was president and he told his lawyers to lie,
Speaker 5: and they decided that it was invalid because it took
Speaker 5: too long. That is not sound legal argument. In fact,
Speaker 5: all the Purple and Blue agees have already filed briefs
Speaker 5: that say, once you do the two thirds of House
Speaker 5: and Senate and three quarters of states ratifying, it becomes
Speaker 5: an amendment. It just needs to be signed and published
Speaker 5: by the archivist. So I sat down with the archivist.
Speaker 5: I said, will you sign and publish the er. She's like, well,
Speaker 5: don't I need a new legal memo from new lawyers.
Speaker 5: I was like, nope, you don't work for the lawyers
Speaker 5: and those are just advisory. She said, well, don't I
Speaker 5: need a nod from President Biden? And I said, nope,
Speaker 5: you don't work for him either. You're just supposed to
Speaker 5: sign and publish. I believe, however, if we can get
Speaker 5: a nod from President Biden, that she will be likely
Speaker 5: to sign and publish it. So I'm working very hard
Speaker 5: to pitch this to President Biden, to educate his lawyers
Speaker 5: and educate his team, and if we can convince them
Speaker 5: that this is the right thing to do, I think
Speaker 5: she'll sign and publish it and we will have a
Speaker 5: twenty th amendment. Now why does that matter. It matters
Speaker 5: because if we had an equal rights amendment, Dobbs would
Speaker 5: be invalid. Explain to us, job says, women of reproductive
Speaker 5: years do not have a right to privacy, and therefore
Speaker 5: they don't have a right to reproductive care. If states
Speaker 5: say it's illegal, men have a right to privacy, and
Speaker 5: men have a right to reproductive care all across this country.
Speaker 5: And if you don't allow women to have it, but
Speaker 5: you do allow men to have it, that is unequal treatment.
Speaker 5: And so an equal rights amendment would deem Dobbs invalid.
Speaker 4: So interesting and such a great idea.
Speaker 5: So so we're just working it.
Speaker 4: We're working to President Biden.
Speaker 5: We're working it. We're trying to So I saw President,
Speaker 5: I saw, I have talked to Anita. I gave her
Speaker 5: all my briefs.
Speaker 1: I'm going to find Anita and and be like, you
Speaker 1: got to publish.
Speaker 4: The r Yes.
Speaker 5: So I saw President Biden at Stonewall. We did a
Speaker 5: big thing about the Stonewall in monument Yes, And I
Speaker 5: pitched him in the photo line. I had a full
Speaker 5: thirty seconds and he loved this argument, and he said,
Speaker 5: so you want me to make a big deal about this.
Speaker 5: I was like, yes, I want you to call on
Speaker 5: the archives published. And he loved it. So if I
Speaker 5: can convince his team, maybe.
Speaker 4: You know, this is how it gets done.
Speaker 5: I think so, because if the archive is signs and published,
Speaker 5: it automatically becomes a twenty eighth amendment. I bet people
Speaker 5: will sue. It'll go up to the Supreme Court. Maybe
Speaker 5: within six months, maybe within a year, who knows. But
Speaker 5: the truth is that the law supports signing and publishing.
Speaker 5: There's no requirement that these amendments need to be done quickly.
Speaker 5: So in fact, Article five doesn't even give Congress the
Speaker 5: ability to set a deadline. And the twenty seven Amendment
Speaker 5: took two hundred and three years to sign and publish,
Speaker 5: so Trump's lawyer's argument that it took two is invalid.
Speaker 5: It is invalid.
Speaker 1: It's funny because it's like, my mom is this feminist author,
Speaker 1: Erka Jong, and she worked really hard on this. This
Speaker 1: was like one of the things that in the seventies
Speaker 1: was one of the great promises.
Speaker 5: Well, it took them time to get state by state.
Speaker 5: It takes a while to get thirty eight states, and
Speaker 5: we didn't get it done right away. Congress wanted it
Speaker 5: done in seven years, but Congress didn't have the authority
Speaker 5: to put that deadline on. At number one and number two,
Speaker 5: the twenty seven Amendment took two hundred and three years,
Speaker 5: So it's not unusual for these amendments to take longer
Speaker 5: than you think.
Speaker 1: One of the things that's happening at this convention is
Speaker 1: there's a feeling that women are finally at the table.
Speaker 5: I think that's right, and I think that the speakers
Speaker 5: that Kamala has chosen to be part of this convention
Speaker 5: a lot of women, a lot of young women, a
Speaker 5: lot of people of color. It's a very diverse and
Speaker 5: exciting and invigorating and energizing convention, a lot of young speakers.
Speaker 5: I mean, I liked AOC for my own state. She
Speaker 5: did a great job. Or speech was fabulous, and then
Speaker 5: Jasmine Crockett was excellent. I loved Angela also Brooks, she
Speaker 5: did a great job. I thought Lisa Blunt Rochester was electrifying.
Speaker 5: I've been really happy with the people that she's lifted
Speaker 5: up to give them speaking roles and a lot of
Speaker 5: new voices, which I really appreciate.
Speaker 1: So one of the things things that the Senate that
Speaker 1: is sort of upsetting to me about the Senate is
Speaker 1: there has only ever been I think we have the
Speaker 1: three black women senators. This is now Senator Butler is
Speaker 1: the third, correct, okay, and so we Senator Harris was
Speaker 1: the second.
Speaker 5: And Illinois Senator Braun.
Speaker 1: Was Carol Moseley Brown was the first. So we've only
Speaker 1: had three, right, which is insane.
Speaker 5: We get two more.
Speaker 4: We could get two.
Speaker 1: More with Angela Austin Brooks and so that in a
Speaker 1: way seems like a big deal.
Speaker 4: And I think it is a big deal.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, And I mean this news set of class
Speaker 5: is gonna be great. We also have Andy Kim coming
Speaker 5: in from New Jersey Kim, so we're getting a lot more.
Speaker 4: We had Andy Kim right after he announced.
Speaker 5: I was proud of him for announcing when he did,
Speaker 5: and he had a lot of guts to do that,
Speaker 5: and that's being rewarded.
Speaker 4: And he had to really run against them New Jersey Machine.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but things can happen. It's amazing when things start
Speaker 5: to change.
Speaker 1: It's funny because it's like Republicans are so mad about Harris.
Speaker 4: They just don't know how to be blast but they're left.
Speaker 5: They're mad and chaotic and confused and unable, like they
Speaker 5: don't know what to say and how to say it.
Speaker 5: It's quite shocking, actually, But if you just remember Trump
Speaker 5: was so vitriolic against women and women of color during
Speaker 5: his presidency. I think all the nasty tweets he sent
Speaker 5: about women and how vicious he was, particularly towards women
Speaker 5: of color. I just think he can't handle it. Yeah,
Speaker 5: I just think he can't handle it. Like I think
Speaker 5: it's like exploding his brain. So, who's the best candidate
Speaker 5: to run against Trump? Kamala Harris. It's like, because by nature,
Speaker 5: she's exploding his head.
Speaker 1: I can't imagine a candidate raising millions of dollars the energy.
Speaker 5: She's creators instantaneously.
Speaker 1: It seems to me that a lot of why she
Speaker 1: was so undermined was because she's a black woman. How
Speaker 1: can we as white women elevate Black women? How can
Speaker 1: we be.
Speaker 4: Like allies in the way that we need to be?
Speaker 3: Well?
Speaker 5: I think in this moment in time, we should leave
Speaker 5: it all on the field for Kamala.
Speaker 4: I mean, we can.
Speaker 5: Show our allieship by our actions, our words, our deeds,
Speaker 5: our blood, our sweat, our tears between now and election day,
Speaker 5: like we can show the American people that we want
Speaker 5: a woman president and we want Kamala Harris to be
Speaker 5: that first woman president. We can through our actions, show
Speaker 5: that we believe in her leadership, that we believe in
Speaker 5: her ability, and that we are going to do everything
Speaker 5: we can to make sure when we know in love
Speaker 5: is registered to vote, is voting, and that nobody gets
Speaker 5: to stay home, nobody gets to sit on their hands,
Speaker 5: nobody gets to do nothing. I mean, like Michelle Obama said,
Speaker 5: just do something.
Speaker 4: Just do something.
Speaker 5: And what I loved about Michelle's speech was that she
Speaker 5: told Kamala's story in the most powerful, loving, supportive way
Speaker 5: possible and coming from her perspective, it was beautiful, yeah,
Speaker 5: and empowering. I thought it was remarkable.
Speaker 1: So much of the political writing about this era right
Speaker 1: now has been people saying that the Bidens and the
Speaker 1: Obamas don't like each other, and that this one and
Speaker 1: then that one don't like each other. And Biden was
Speaker 1: and you know, during Biden's speech, he's sad. He actually said,
Speaker 1: this was my decision. No one made this decision.
Speaker 5: So you know what's so great about that?
Speaker 4: Yeah? So great.
Speaker 5: So Barack Obama trusts the vice presidency to Joe Biden. Yeah,
Speaker 5: Joe Biden trusts the vice presidency to Kamala Harris. But
Speaker 5: when given the choice of who should be the next president,
Speaker 5: Biden was all in for Kamala And that one action
Speaker 5: alone made a huge difference, because when the President of the
Speaker 5: United States says, I believe Kamala Harris is the best
Speaker 5: candidate and should be the next president, it closed the
Speaker 5: door on the five or six, seven or eight candidates
Speaker 5: that were waiting in the wings to jump in to
Speaker 5: create some mini primary. And it was instantaneous. Every single
Speaker 5: one of them endorsed her within forty eight, which created unity.
Speaker 5: And the unity has created momentum, and the momentum has
Speaker 5: created excitement, and this excitement has created electricity, and electricity
Speaker 5: is creating a will to win that I've never seen before.
Speaker 5: I've never seen this level of all in by everyone
Speaker 5: so early, so aggressively, so happily. Yeah, I mean all
Speaker 5: I see is happy warriors everywhere I go, and I
Speaker 5: think it matters. And the other speech that really hit
Speaker 5: me was Hillary's for Hillary again, like this is a
Speaker 5: passing of the torch. Joe Biden passed the torch to Kamala.
Speaker 5: Hillary Clinton passed the torch to Kamala. And for the
Speaker 5: woman who we expected to be the first woman president
Speaker 5: to say, the first woman president will not be me,
Speaker 5: it will be her, will be Kamala Harris showed so
Speaker 5: much grace, so much kindness, so much wisdom. I was
Speaker 5: so proud of her because it takes courage. It takes
Speaker 5: courage for anyone to walk away from power and also
Speaker 5: to walk away from a dream. But we saw both
Speaker 5: Joe Biden and Hillary Clinton do that in this convention,
Speaker 5: and I was in tears. I was so grateful for
Speaker 5: Hillary's grace and courage in that moment was I thought
Speaker 5: it was beautiful.
Speaker 4: Thank you, Senator Jilli Brown, Thank you.
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Speaker 2: Keith Ellison is the Attorney General of Minnesota.
Speaker 1: Welcome back to Fast Politics.
Speaker 9: Thank you, Molly. Good to see you again. How have
Speaker 9: you been been good?
Speaker 4: What is going on? How is being attorney general?
Speaker 3: Well?
Speaker 10: I hear there's a Democratic convention going on as a
Speaker 10: rumor around here anyway, but it.
Speaker 1: Feels like it's like this convention is like the low
Speaker 1: key theme as Minnesota.
Speaker 10: Well, Minnesota is a awesome place. Minnesota is a very fun
Speaker 10: place to live. Minnesota. We value education, we value people.
Speaker 10: Minnesota is the home of Hubert H.
Speaker 3: Humphrey.
Speaker 10: He passed one of the first human rights ordinances in America.
Speaker 3: Hubert H.
Speaker 10: Humphrey in nineteen forty eight said that we have to
Speaker 10: walk out of the dark night of states rights into
Speaker 10: the bright sunshine of human rights.
Speaker 4: And then you know, to do that again, I think again.
Speaker 10: And then Minnesota is a good place. And this is
Speaker 10: my adopt at home. I was born in Detroit, Michigan.
Speaker 10: Love Detroit too, but I like staying in Minnesota. My kids,
Speaker 10: all four of my kids are born there, met my
Speaker 10: wife there. You know, it's a good place. I recommend it,
Speaker 10: but it's not a perfect place. And we got problems
Speaker 10: we got to solve.
Speaker 1: You guys have passed like a lot of really interesting
Speaker 1: progressive legislation. Sure did stuff that I don't know how
Speaker 1: progressive it is in my mind, but I mean I
Speaker 1: think it's normal human rights stuff like feeding hungry children
Speaker 1: paid leave.
Speaker 4: Sure, but I'm curious, does that have an effect on
Speaker 4: the crime well in your state?
Speaker 10: I would say, no, Minnesota is relatively safe place. I
Speaker 10: mean it certainly there's enough crime to keep US prosecutors
Speaker 10: in business. But you know, if you compare red states
Speaker 10: and blue states, they're way more dangerous than us, right,
Speaker 10: and so I'd say.
Speaker 1: But look, if you ask some of the downstream effects
Speaker 1: of this progressive legislation in your state.
Speaker 9: Good questions.
Speaker 10: So I believe that if you have kids who can
Speaker 10: go get a meal at school, even if they're poor
Speaker 10: kids or extremely working class and hard pressed, then sometimes
Speaker 10: those kids the only place you're going to get a
Speaker 10: good meal is in school. And so that means they're
Speaker 10: going to come to school, and that's going to lower
Speaker 10: a school absenteeism. It'll raise a chance to learn some stuff,
Speaker 10: maybe join a team, maybe join the band, getting to
Speaker 10: a play, find your passion, and that helps.
Speaker 9: You stay out of trouble. Right there.
Speaker 3: We do know.
Speaker 9: Look, we have more absenteeism than we want.
Speaker 10: We have not bounced back from the pandemic numbers, but
Speaker 10: because of the universal school meals, we have some good
Speaker 10: numbers and we have reason to be hopeful. I mean,
Speaker 10: you know, so that's just one thing, you know what
Speaker 10: I mean, There's so many others. Child tax credit that
Speaker 10: we passed.
Speaker 1: You have a child tax credit that's a state talk, yes,
Speaker 1: So explain to us how that works. Because the federal
Speaker 1: child tax state income text despite how much Jade Evans
Speaker 1: pretends he loves it. Actually expired because the Senate could
Speaker 1: not get the vote.
Speaker 9: So you got to he vote on that.
Speaker 4: He didn't vote. He didn't go to the vote.
Speaker 10: Oh well, so you know what they used to call that.
Speaker 10: They used to call that taking a Mississippi walk. Yeah,
Speaker 10: that means there's legislation you don't want to vote on,
Speaker 10: so you're conveniently not on the floor to vote, which
Speaker 10: is your job to vote.
Speaker 9: I used to be in Congress for twelve years.
Speaker 10: The only job you have is to vote, show your
Speaker 10: backside up and vote.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 10: And if you can't do that, you're not meeting the
Speaker 10: minimum requirements of the of the job, right, and so
Speaker 10: that's him for you. So you know, so you have stated,
Speaker 10: you know, Minnesota does have state income tax, but because
Speaker 10: of the Child Tax Credit, you know, that helps families
Speaker 10: that are trying to take care of their families and
Speaker 10: their kids and then improves child family income and reduces
Speaker 10: child poverty.
Speaker 9: So it's very important.
Speaker 1: And one of the ideas in Project twenty twenty five
Speaker 1: is to dismantle and ultimately end.
Speaker 4: The Department of Education.
Speaker 1: Right what you started by Jimmy Carter, Right, Department of
Speaker 1: Education does pelgrants, sure, some other things that provide money
Speaker 1: for college for the people who are in the sort
Speaker 1: of poorest group.
Speaker 4: Of American Absolutely true.
Speaker 1: Would you talk about what it would mean to dismantle
Speaker 1: the Department of Education?
Speaker 10: Well, I can talk about pragmatically what it would mean,
Speaker 10: but let me first just mention what it would mean symbolically. Yeah,
Speaker 10: it would mean that we are shutting down the institution
Speaker 10: which provides knowledge to people. We say knowledge is power. Well,
Speaker 10: if you don't have any education department, then there's still power,
Speaker 10: but it's shifted from one place to another, right, it's
Speaker 10: you know, and look, it's real hard to control people
Speaker 10: when they know what's going on, and it's real hard
Speaker 10: to make people hate others when they know something about
Speaker 10: those people.
Speaker 9: But if I don't know nothing about.
Speaker 10: You, it's easy for me to believe that, oh, you
Speaker 10: have poverty in your community because you're just lazy and
Speaker 10: don't want to work. If I don't know nothing about you,
Speaker 10: I can jump to all kinds of ignorant conclusions.
Speaker 9: It's about who you are and what you represent. So
Speaker 9: I'll just say that.
Speaker 10: But you know, look, the Department of Education is doing
Speaker 10: important things regarding Title I, which is making sure that
Speaker 10: low income kids, kids with disabilities get a fair shot educationally.
Speaker 10: Aprotment of educations are very important and making sure that
Speaker 10: we have equal it's a national it's an institution with
Speaker 10: national purview.
Speaker 9: So if you just completely.
Speaker 10: Localize education, you know, the product that a kid might
Speaker 10: get in Lowndes County, Alabama versus what some kids going
Speaker 10: to get in Hinnipey County of Minnesota.
Speaker 9: Is just extremely different.
Speaker 10: And why in the world would you want to, you know,
Speaker 10: create an environment of inequality unless your.
Speaker 9: Goal was in equality.
Speaker 10: So you know, look, these people, I tell you, Molly,
Speaker 10: if I just be straight up with it, I think
Speaker 10: they want to return Jim Crow.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I think that's what they want to do.
Speaker 1: They're not haven't yet said that, but it seems likely
Speaker 1: that at some point someone's going to admit it.
Speaker 10: Yeah, you're you're all mad about DEI, right, keeps you
Speaker 10: up at night for some reason. Yeah, I mean, even
Speaker 10: though we really haven't created equal opportunity in America, you're
Speaker 10: mad at the few opportunities that have been created. So
Speaker 10: you know, and by the way, we're not mad about
Speaker 10: legacy inherited wealth. You can go to Harvard. If mom
Speaker 10: and dad or grandpa went there, and if they build
Speaker 10: a wingy, you know, you can go there.
Speaker 9: You can be dumb as a.
Speaker 1: Post, yeah, really dumb and have bad grades.
Speaker 4: You do have to give like five million dollars.
Speaker 10: Yeah, as long as you got the five million, Yeah,
Speaker 10: you can come there. But if you're a smart kid
Speaker 10: and you don't and you're just trying to get there
Speaker 10: on merit.
Speaker 4: No, forget not so much.
Speaker 1: But then, but the other thing is that, I mean,
Speaker 1: the one really good thing about this country is that
Speaker 1: we have a lot of really good colleges. We do,
Speaker 1: and we have a really good community college system. They
Speaker 1: do that throws people to better colleges.
Speaker 9: I sure, I sure believe that is true.
Speaker 10: And you know, my two older brothers both went to
Speaker 10: community college and one of them is a physician today. Yeah,
Speaker 10: and the other one is a not he's a he's
Speaker 10: a lawyer and a preacher.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 10: So you know, give me a shout out to me,
Speaker 10: make a shout out to Leonard doctor Leonard Ellison yea
Speaker 10: and redend Bryan Ellison, my two brothers, two good guys.
Speaker 1: You have this incredible vice president who is your governor
Speaker 1: and now is running for visas.
Speaker 9: I thought you're talking about the other one.
Speaker 4: I want to talk.
Speaker 1: About you, the guy from your state, the guy he's
Speaker 1: a little less famous.
Speaker 10: Yeah, and so you know what, And I'm glad you
Speaker 10: want to talk about him because the Republicans are doing
Speaker 10: They're in a mad rush to try to define him
Speaker 10: in a negative way.
Speaker 4: By the way, they were not able to define her.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 1: I mean, I tell you so many times people said
Speaker 1: to me, it's the next three days are going to
Speaker 1: define everything. They are trying to define her. They wanted
Speaker 1: to find her. They weren't able to to define her.
Speaker 9: Yeah, well so she's smarter than that, both of them
Speaker 9: put together.
Speaker 3: Five times.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know.
Speaker 1: And I want to define him because I think because
Speaker 1: he looks like a Midwestern dad, and Republicans want those vhotos.
Speaker 3: You know, I have a whole thought about that.
Speaker 10: I don't know if we might take more than two minutes,
Speaker 10: but so and the Republicans have been talking a lot
Speaker 10: about masculinity. Democrats we don't talk that much about it
Speaker 10: because it's.
Speaker 9: Like stupid, I'm a boy or a girl whatever.
Speaker 10: Yeah, but to them, like you know, you got Josh
Speaker 10: Hawley and jd. Vance all this stuff, and they're also
Speaker 10: trying to define feminininity too. And Tim Walls is a
Speaker 10: crack shot, wins the shooting competition, yet he says what's
Speaker 10: more important is protecting people from gun violence. Tim Walls
Speaker 10: football coach, the most macho, he man sport we got.
Speaker 10: He's actually damn good at it and knows how to
Speaker 10: inspire young men to win. And not only that, these
Speaker 10: men in their thirties and forties were in their ball
Speaker 10: jerseys on stage and I don't know, see, I don't know,
Speaker 10: so like maybe my wife doesn't even know this about me.
Speaker 10: But the most electric joyful time in my life was
Speaker 10: when I was sixteen years old running across the football
Speaker 10: field into the end zone. I am sixty one and
Speaker 10: I remember that. And anybody who's ever played high school
Speaker 10: for I don't care if you played college football and
Speaker 10: pro football, you remember being playing for free with your
Speaker 10: friends in your neighborhood. And that is like a you know,
Speaker 10: I don't know, Well, girls don't play football, so that's
Speaker 10: not a memory they have. They might remember being at
Speaker 10: the game, but that is a very male thing, you know,
Speaker 10: And he is able to he's the man on that
Speaker 10: and neither one of them are what did Trump ever do?
Speaker 10: Trump is a bone spur get to avoid Vietnam. He
Speaker 10: might have been a good athlete. Nobody's ever heard about that.
Speaker 3: JD.
Speaker 9: Vance, You know, I don't know.
Speaker 10: I mean, he was a marine, but we know he
Speaker 10: sat in the desk and wrote articles stuff.
Speaker 1: Nothing wrong with that, yeah, but you know.
Speaker 10: But but I guess it's kind of hard to describe
Speaker 10: in a way. But Tim Walls checks all these masculine
Speaker 10: boxes and still his concept of masculinity is to protect, support.
Speaker 10: Their concept of masculinity is to dominate. So in their mind,
Speaker 10: masculinity means you have you're a billionaire, and you boss
Speaker 10: everybody around and do whatever you want and touch women
Speaker 10: who do.
Speaker 4: Big scary trucks.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 10: So his idea is to go on a ride with
Speaker 10: his daughter at the fair. His idea is to support
Speaker 10: his his son. His idea is to support his football
Speaker 10: players even into adulthood, and to be able to have
Speaker 10: the admiration of his fellow soldiers and their idea. And
Speaker 10: they think the soldiers are suckers and and and they
Speaker 10: only and they only support people who don't get captured.
Speaker 10: And I mean, we got to explore the differing concept
Speaker 10: of manhood that are on display right here.
Speaker 9: We don't talk about it. On the dim side.
Speaker 10: We should, but we're kind of leaving that discussion because
Speaker 10: there are a lot of men who are kind of
Speaker 10: like wondering what's going on cause, you know, forty years ago,
Speaker 10: being male, if you could pick up something and she
Speaker 10: can't pick it up, then you're the head of the
Speaker 10: family and she's not.
Speaker 9: Right today, your wife probably does.
Speaker 10: Make more money than you because she probably smarter than you,
Speaker 10: because you know, I mean, you know, and that's making
Speaker 10: and that's making a lot of guys like, where do
Speaker 10: I fit in here? I mean you you look at
Speaker 10: your average law school graduation class. De valedictorian is probably
Speaker 10: a female and most of the class is probably female.
Speaker 4: College or college.
Speaker 9: Yeah, and so a lot of guys are like, where
Speaker 9: do I fit in here?
Speaker 10: And Trump is exploiting that malaise, that that anxiety, and
Speaker 10: so Tim Wallas is kryptonite to them.
Speaker 2: Yes, Ron Widen is the senior senator from Oregon.
Speaker 1: Welcome back to back politics, Oregon Senator Ron Wyden.
Speaker 4: What a treat are you getting me?
Speaker 1: A treat is mine. It is my treat to have
Speaker 1: you on my podcast. You did a lot of interesting
Speaker 1: stuff with taxes this year.
Speaker 4: Talk to me.
Speaker 11: So the differences could not be greater between the wonderful
Speaker 11: woman that we've nominated to be President of the United States.
Speaker 4: And Donald Trump.
Speaker 11: Yeah, you know, Donald Trump is basically trying to claber
Speaker 11: the working class and that's with all these tariffs yeh,
Speaker 11: which are really taxes. So yeah, if a worker in
Speaker 11: Coos Bay, Oregon, or anywhere else you know, is buying
Speaker 11: a car or paying for food or clothing, they basically
Speaker 11: get clabbered so that the people in the one tenth
Speaker 11: of one to one hundredth up at the top are
Speaker 11: going to get more tax breaks. And what we're trying
Speaker 11: to do is make sure that everybody understand what's on
Speaker 11: offer and is basically clabbering working class people in order
Speaker 11: to give gifts and people at the top.
Speaker 1: So, but you have also done some really interesting legislation
Speaker 1: with AI tech and taxes, right, so explain to us
Speaker 1: some of that also. But before you do that, I
Speaker 1: want you to talk about how the Trump tax cut
Speaker 1: is going to expire, and some of what is happening
Speaker 1: behind the scenes is actually about taxes and for a
Speaker 1: lot of rich people. This election is actually about taxes.
Speaker 6: There's no question about it. That's the big pocketbook, you
Speaker 6: know issue.
Speaker 11: People say, well, you know he did good things in
Speaker 11: this term or that term. That's not what this is about.
Speaker 11: This is about the fact. And he said it. He
Speaker 11: has fundraisers and the like with the oil companies and
Speaker 11: the like. Here's what I'm gonna.
Speaker 3: Do for you.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 11: I think what we're doing now is pushing back in
Speaker 11: a way that shows where our values are. For example,
Speaker 11: vice President's been talking about food prices. Right, I'm going
Speaker 11: to be getting on a plane flying home. We are
Speaker 11: molly looking at the biggest food and grocery merger in
Speaker 11: the history of the United States, right, And that's Kroger
Speaker 11: and Albertson's. And the fact is the market is so
Speaker 11: consolidated that in many areas there's not much competition. So
Speaker 11: you pay four dollars for a gallon of milk or
Speaker 11: ten dollars for a pound of beef. And I said,
Speaker 11: when the far right said the Vice president's talking about
Speaker 11: price control, they said, hold on, We democrats are for markets.
Speaker 3: But when the.
Speaker 11: Market is working, we're going to make sure there's some
Speaker 11: guardrails to protect the consumers.
Speaker 6: So that's what we're talking about.
Speaker 4: To anti trust. You got a competition.
Speaker 1: One of the things that the Biden administration has done
Speaker 1: that's made them very unpopular with wealthy people is more.
Speaker 4: Anti trust regulation. Can you talk about that?
Speaker 3: Sure?
Speaker 11: I mean, in sector after sector, we're losing choices, for
Speaker 11: example in Oregon, and I hope this is something that
Speaker 11: you'll see the executive branch, you know, take on. We're
Speaker 11: seeing tremendous consolidation and pharmacies. You know, the grocery merger
Speaker 11: also is a pharmacy merger, and the big pharmacies are
Speaker 11: basically you know, coming together and reducing choices. That meshes
Speaker 11: with the PBMs. These pharmaceutical benefit managers get this, We're
Speaker 11: going to spend more than four trillion dollars on healthcare
Speaker 11: this year. They're like three hundred and thirty million of US.
Speaker 11: You divide three hundred and thirty million into four trillion
Speaker 11: dollars plus and you can send every family of four
Speaker 11: in America for a check now fifty thousand dollars and
Speaker 11: say here, get some healthcare. And where the money's going
Speaker 11: is these middlemen.
Speaker 1: You are a policy guy. I am obsessed with tech regulation.
Speaker 1: I think tech company is basically killed newspapers and now
Speaker 1: are just trying to make content any cheap way they can.
Speaker 4: What can you guys do to enact tech regulation?
Speaker 11: Well, it seems to me the most important thing is
Speaker 11: to make sure that the big guys, you know, I
Speaker 11: mean look at Google. You know Google's being broken up
Speaker 11: in effect. I mean, you're seeing big changes. But I
Speaker 11: want to make sure that the little guys, who's the
Speaker 11: horse I've always been riding, the big guys can take
Speaker 11: care of themselves. Get this in one of my tech bills.
Speaker 11: Mark Zuckerberg would be in jail now for lying.
Speaker 6: About privacy issues.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 11: So I have never, as a guy who's always involved
Speaker 11: in tech policy, people say, oh, you know, Ron's a
Speaker 11: really good guy, but the big guys are benefiting. I
Speaker 11: have no horse in that game.
Speaker 3: But for the little guys.
Speaker 11: You know, the Me Too movement, Black Lives Matter? How
Speaker 11: did that get out? It got out because we had
Speaker 11: a platform in order to give those people voices they
Speaker 11: couldn't have gotten anywhere else.
Speaker 4: Should Tittock be banned?
Speaker 11: I like what we're doing in our legislation, which is
Speaker 11: saying it's got.
Speaker 1: To be American right, got to be sold to an
Speaker 1: American conglomerate.
Speaker 4: Thank you.
Speaker 2: Senator Austin Davis is the Lieutenant Governor of Pennsylvania.
Speaker 1: Welcome to Fast Politics. Lieutenant Governor of Pennsylvania, Austin Davis.
Speaker 6: Thank you for having me. It's great to do.
Speaker 1: Pennsylvania is like pretty much the whole ballgame it is.
Speaker 1: So what does that look like? And what did Democrats
Speaker 1: need to do? You are the lieutenant governor, you have
Speaker 1: one state level. You know what we're dealing with. Tell
Speaker 1: us what we're doing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I.
Speaker 12: Think Democrats need to one show up everywhere, not just
Speaker 12: big cities like Philadelphia and Pittsburgh. We need to go
Speaker 12: to small communities all across Pennsylvania and listen to voters
Speaker 12: and make the case on how we're going to make
Speaker 12: our economy better, how we're going to make our community safer,
Speaker 12: and how we're going to create laders of opportunity for
Speaker 12: everyone to live the American dream.
Speaker 1: So explain to our listeners what it looks like Pennsylvania like.
Speaker 12: So, you know, I'd like to say Pennsylvania, I think
Speaker 12: is the most representative of America. We've got big cities
Speaker 12: like Pittsburgh and Philadelphia, vast amounts of rurallands, big wealth
Speaker 12: suburbs like outside of Philly, but also small towns like Erie,
Speaker 12: Lancaster or Harrisburg. And so you know, you got to
Speaker 12: make sure that you're talking everywhere. And sometimes Democrats need
Speaker 12: to go to places where it's not comfortable to be
Speaker 12: a Democrat, ye and make the case on how we're
Speaker 12: going to make the folks that live there their lives
Speaker 12: better as well. And I think President Harris has been
Speaker 12: doing that. She just did a bus tour in western
Speaker 12: Pennsylvania before she came to the convention.
Speaker 4: But she went to shots, right, aren't there two different?
Speaker 6: Oh? Sheets?
Speaker 3: Sheet?
Speaker 12: She went to sheets, So she was appropriate on the
Speaker 12: western part of the state.
Speaker 6: She went to sheet.
Speaker 1: Did show that Jesse is shaking his head because I
Speaker 1: have mispronounced sheets.
Speaker 6: Go on, they're sheets in Wahwah.
Speaker 12: So she was in the western side of the state,
Speaker 12: so totally appropriate to go to sheets.
Speaker 6: When she's in the eastern side, she'll go to wah
Speaker 6: Wah Okay.
Speaker 12: But yeah, So she did a tour in right outside
Speaker 12: of Pittsburgh, the suburbs of Pittsburgh, Aliquippa and Beaver and
Speaker 12: Beaver and Rochester, small steel towns, and this was going
Speaker 12: to take just going and talking about her vision for
Speaker 12: the economy, how she's going to address the issues that
Speaker 12: everyday Americans are facing. And she has always been a
Speaker 12: champion for working class Americans. So I think part of
Speaker 12: us is reintroducing her and the work she's done throughout
Speaker 12: the course of her career.
Speaker 1: Sort of what is the landscape like, jobs wise? What
Speaker 1: are your industries?
Speaker 12: So, agriculture is our number one industry in Pennsylvania.
Speaker 6: Agriculture.
Speaker 12: We've done actually an economic bell strategy that focuses on robotics, healthcare, agriculture, robotics,
Speaker 12: and biotech is kind of becoming a robotics in Pittsburgh
Speaker 12: because of carnegiemail and in biotech in Philadelphia. So those
Speaker 12: are kind of the five areas.
Speaker 1: What legislation have you guys passed that has been really popular?
Speaker 6: You know? So we have we've done all sides.
Speaker 4: Rebuilding that ninety.
Speaker 6: Five in two weeks. That was kind of a big deal.
Speaker 1: But by the way, I think, like fixing that road,
Speaker 1: people just can't even believe that anyone could do that.
Speaker 12: Yeah, the sad part is people just don't expect that
Speaker 12: government can work for them. Or really solve any of
Speaker 12: our biggest problems. And I think when people saw that
Speaker 12: it can work, they were like, wow, yeah, I mean, look,
Speaker 12: it's not it wasn't groundbreaking like rebuilding a bridge, but
Speaker 12: it was the two week it was the two week
Speaker 12: period that we were able to get it done so efficiently.
Speaker 12: But you know, we've done a lot. We've put millions
Speaker 12: of dollars in workforce development to address our workforce challenges.
Speaker 12: The Governor and I have made the largest investments in
Speaker 12: public education in our commonwealth's history to make sure every
Speaker 12: young person gets a quality education. I've personally taken on
Speaker 12: gun violence in our communities. We're staying up the first
Speaker 12: office at gun Violence Prevention in Pennsylvania. We're spending forty
Speaker 12: five million dollars to make sure everyone has the right
Speaker 12: to be safe and feel saved in our communities. And
Speaker 12: we've passed universal breakfast so that we can stamp out
Speaker 12: hunger among kids in Pennsylvania.
Speaker 6: So we've made a.
Speaker 12: Lot of good work in a year and a half
Speaker 12: and still got a lot of good stuff to do.
Speaker 4: Competing with tim Walls.
Speaker 6: We are competing with it.
Speaker 12: We were competing with tim Walls, and you know, what
Speaker 12: competition for stamping out hunger among young people. That's a
Speaker 12: good competition we should be engaging in.
Speaker 4: Thank you, thank you, thank you.
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