1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:08,639 Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast Hates vending Machines. That's welcome 2 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:11,240 Speaker 1: back to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast. 3 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:13,600 Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hansas, and I am joined by 4 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:17,520 Speaker 1: the room filled with heroes Mark Sessler, Chris Westling, and 5 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:22,239 Speaker 1: Greg Rosenthal. Who that is up? Boys? Hey Dan, I'm 6 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 1: not sure why vending machines honestly still exists other than 7 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:27,800 Speaker 1: the fact that they're gigantic and they're hard to take 8 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:30,360 Speaker 1: out of a building, and that's why they're still sitting 9 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 1: in break rooms for people that don't know. My feeling 10 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 1: is one particular vending machine in the newsroom break room 11 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 1: which has been stealing money from people here in the 12 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:41,960 Speaker 1: shadowy league figures look the other way. But at the 13 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:43,920 Speaker 1: same time, I know they've got more important things to 14 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 1: deal with right now, so I'm I'm just gonna back 15 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:48,839 Speaker 1: off on the vending machine. It's a foss l idea 16 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 1: and they're mostly filled with unhealthy food. Um okay, So 17 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 1: speaking of more important things, Yeah, the uh the NFL 18 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 1: in Week fifteen. This is the flagship program, presented of 19 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:06,400 Speaker 1: course by Head and Shoulders on a day when once 20 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:11,040 Speaker 1: again um fate shine brightly upon the New England Patriots, 21 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 1: a big, huge, huge, huge win for New England. Greg 22 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:20,680 Speaker 1: has got a little pepping as step he's known to do. Greg, 23 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 1: you're feeling good right now? I certainly enjoyed that game. Yeah. Nothing. 24 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:28,200 Speaker 1: Nothing gets more peppy than a article about the catch 25 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 1: rule that I just wrote wait to go no more. 26 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 1: Nothing like getting quotes off of an al Riveran tweets 27 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 1: and from NFL operations that I'll get your juices NFL 28 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 1: ops gets me pumped up about professional football personally. Uh. So, yes, 29 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about that huge game at Hines Field 30 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 1: and of course another unfortunate injury. What a season this 31 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 1: has been? Uh? And uh the team of a t 32 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 1: L with another huge statement and the return of Aaron 33 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 1: Rodgers and why it might not matter ultimately so much 34 00:01:56,920 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 1: to get to uh, in fact, so much to get 35 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 1: to we should just do right, West, Let's do it. 36 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 1: How you doing, buddy, How you feel? I feel good today? 37 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 1: Give us an update? Where is Chris westling at? Physically? Well? 38 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 1: Today is good. I'm very hesitant to ever give updates 39 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:12,920 Speaker 1: to go beyond the next hour, because that's how often 40 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 1: my body changes in reaction to the chemo. Uh. The 41 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:19,800 Speaker 1: last week's chemo ended on Wednesday. Sometimes that stays with 42 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:22,960 Speaker 1: me through Thursday and Friday. I feel pretty good today, 43 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 1: We'll see I still have issues. I still get down 44 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 1: mentally and physically. I have trouble eating and keeping food in. 45 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 1: So um what I'll be I'll be really happy when 46 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 1: that last chemo day, which is January ten, when they 47 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:38,640 Speaker 1: take the pump out, we will be too, just in 48 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 1: time for a little Super Bowl run a few weeks later. 49 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 1: But I know you must be feeling pretty good because 50 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:45,919 Speaker 1: you took the risk of eating some food made here 51 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 1: at the NFL by the Sunday night. I haven't seen 52 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 1: much of that from West here last week's while bor 53 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 1: ragu was besmirched in an unfair manner. Not only was 54 00:02:56,639 --> 00:02:58,800 Speaker 1: it delicious, but it's one of the few things that 55 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 1: my esophagus can really handle it because it was nice 56 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 1: and soft and easy to eat. I never looked at 57 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:07,399 Speaker 1: it from that perspective. Do it, Wild Boar? Well, let's 58 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:09,960 Speaker 1: save it for the Wild Boar podcast. Let's get to 59 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 1: the game, starting, of course, with the a f C 60 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 1: showdown in the season in Pittsburgh. Here he goes third 61 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 1: down play fakes. The spike still has it that bars 62 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:29,680 Speaker 1: the same of the game, and the Patriots absolutely amazing 63 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:32,519 Speaker 1: Jim Nance CBS with the call, we don't have the 64 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 1: Zolac call because his head exploded there. You gonna get 65 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 1: that anyway. After the dreaded catch rule wiped away a 66 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 1: deserved Steelers touchdown, Ben Roethlisberger through a game deciding interception 67 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 1: in the final seconds, and the Patriots held on for 68 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 1: a huge to twenty four win at hines Field. With 69 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 1: the win, the Patriots take over the number one seed 70 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 1: in the a f C. The Steelers, meanwhile, yeah, play that. 71 00:03:57,560 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 1: The Steelers. Meanwhile, we'll finish the regular season without Antonio Brown, 72 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 1: who left this game in the first half after sustaining 73 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 1: a partially torn calf muscle. Rap Sheet reports, Yes, Greg, 74 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 1: the throne of ease is alive and well believe for you. 75 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 1: When the Patriots took the lead late in the fourth quarter, Dan, Dan, 76 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 1: you were you were disconsolate. I don't know if I've 77 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 1: ever seen you as down as in a Jets game. 78 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 1: And I wrote I wrote down from quotes from you, 79 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 1: and they were they were basically said, like this is 80 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 1: so predictable. Anyone watching sports knows exactly how this was 81 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 1: going to happen, and then Juju Smith schuster Bus opened 82 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:38,720 Speaker 1: down the sideline makes the sort of play that you 83 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 1: would expect Antonio Brown to make before all of this happens. 84 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:45,839 Speaker 1: And you, after it was all over, we talked a 85 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:48,920 Speaker 1: little bit about it, and you say the Patriots are lucky, 86 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 1: that they're luckier than any franchise ever. And I get 87 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 1: that from from another perspective watching their team. But luck 88 00:04:56,400 --> 00:05:00,120 Speaker 1: is created by Tom Brady and Rob Gronkowski going on 89 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:02,800 Speaker 1: the field and making some high level plays that only 90 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:07,040 Speaker 1: two of the greatest players in NFL history could set up. 91 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:11,920 Speaker 1: Luck is made on that catull After that happens by 92 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 1: Ben Roethlisberger making a terrible decision throwing the ball over 93 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 1: the middle, Eric Rowe being heads up and tapping the ball, 94 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:23,920 Speaker 1: a decision that Tom Brady would never ever make. So 95 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:27,279 Speaker 1: while they were lucky, the key players in the game 96 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 1: decided it. They set themselves up to get lucky. They're 97 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:33,360 Speaker 1: they're not all lucky. I just want to make it's 98 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 1: a great and they're also fortunate through the years. Yes, 99 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 1: the Ben Roethlisberger throwing the pass, they are fortunate that 100 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:42,360 Speaker 1: that would have happened, just like in Seattle, on the 101 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:44,240 Speaker 1: Super Bowl. They were fortunate they called the pass play 102 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:46,840 Speaker 1: instead of giving to Marshall Lynch, just as they were 103 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:48,920 Speaker 1: fortunate on the tuck play. I don't want to take 104 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 1: anything away from it. They were prepared for it too. 105 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 1: They had three or four guys in coverage. They said 106 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:55,919 Speaker 1: they practiced that fake uh spike play, and it appears 107 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 1: that the Steelers don't practice it too well because Ben 108 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:02,280 Speaker 1: Roethlisberger disagreed with Mike Tomlins take of how that play 109 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 1: even instructed. He said it wasn't a fake spike play, 110 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:07,800 Speaker 1: that the key wanted to just spike the ball to 111 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:09,920 Speaker 1: set up one more play, which makes no sense. Ben 112 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:12,360 Speaker 1: Roethlisberger is just talking out of his ass here, because 113 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 1: it was third down, a spike would have meant a 114 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 1: field goal, and he did do a fake spike, and 115 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 1: no one else on the Steelers moved a muscle except 116 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:23,280 Speaker 1: for Eli Rodgers, and three Patriots followed him and they 117 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:25,360 Speaker 1: made the play. And it's another crazy way to win 118 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 1: a game. Yeah, it's certainly not the first time we've 119 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 1: seen the Patriots maintain their composure and another team act 120 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 1: confused with the game on the line. And I think 121 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 1: the catch roll ongoing shenanigans really overshadowed. I only saw 122 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 1: the last part of the fourth quarter. Rob Gronkowski personally 123 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:45,919 Speaker 1: take control of a football game game. That was amazing performance. 124 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 1: He's the best tight end I've ever seen, and I 125 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:50,599 Speaker 1: don't think it's close. This was a top three gron performance. 126 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:53,160 Speaker 1: And it forget the numbers, who cares? Where the box 127 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 1: score was absolutely dominated this game. And I don't know 128 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 1: about the luck thing, but the fact that this was 129 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 1: the game of all games where Antonio Brown, who is 130 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 1: coming off a month that for me cemented him as 131 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 1: my m v P to lose him early because when 132 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 1: is when is Brown? When has he been at his best? 133 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 1: It's been in the fourth quarter when the Steelers have 134 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 1: to climb out of some sort of dark corner and 135 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 1: you rely on him. Dan, you mentioned there was a 136 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 1: third down past that earlier in the game, it would 137 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 1: have been Brown sealing this victory, and you don't have 138 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 1: him on the field when they had an they had 139 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 1: a five point lead late in the fourth quarter, third 140 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 1: down and manageable, and it was Antonio brown territory. Just 141 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 1: like I should add on the fakes, doomed, fake spike, 142 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:38,640 Speaker 1: Antonio Brown could have been in the middle of that 143 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 1: play too, because he's always in the middle of game 144 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 1: deciding plays like that and what West. You're absolutely right, 145 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 1: they kept their composure um and the and the past 146 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 1: to deserve credit. But it's just wild. Why if you 147 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 1: hate the Patriots, if you're sick of the Patriots, that 148 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 1: they Jesse James scores and the absurd ruling calls it 149 00:07:56,760 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 1: back and then an interception all the things that had 150 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 1: to come together. In fact, let's hear what. Maybe the 151 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 1: NFL will come to its senses and Al River around 152 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 1: the s VP of officiating will announce everyone. We get 153 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 1: your frustration at Martin. Otherwise, great game. Let's see if 154 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 1: Al actually does do that. Let's listen to Rothlessburger completes 155 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 1: a pass to James, and James is going to the 156 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 1: ground as he reaches the goal line. And that's the 157 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 1: key here. He is going to the ground. By rule, 158 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:27,239 Speaker 1: to complete the process of the catch, he must survive 159 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 1: the ground, and by that we mean he must maintain 160 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:33,320 Speaker 1: control of the football. As we see here, he does 161 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 1: put the ball over the goal line extended. Once he 162 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 1: gets there, he loses control of the football and then 163 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:41,720 Speaker 1: the ball hits the ground. We can see here the 164 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 1: ball touches the ground. So therefore two things occur. He 165 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 1: loses control of the football and the ball touches the 166 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:52,680 Speaker 1: ground prior to him regaining control. Therefore, the ruling on 167 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 1: the field of a touchdown was changed to an incomplete pass. West, 168 00:08:57,240 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 1: Why does that still bad? Why is it failing the 169 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 1: and sense test? It's it's the most broken rule in sports. 170 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:06,560 Speaker 1: It's the most confusing rule in sports. By the letter 171 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 1: of the rule, I knew that was not a touchdown, 172 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 1: and I wondered why it was taking romans to acknowledge 173 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 1: that it wasn't a touch and added to the confusion 174 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 1: and speaks to it too, that no one knows that 175 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:20,520 Speaker 1: on every other patch of grass in the world, that's 176 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:23,680 Speaker 1: a catch because he physically caught the ball. That that's 177 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:26,080 Speaker 1: why it's a catch. And it's It fails the common 178 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:28,720 Speaker 1: sense test, it fails the confusion test. To me, it 179 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:32,120 Speaker 1: fails the competitive integrity test, and I think the NFL 180 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 1: suffers for it as a product. Well, the thing I 181 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 1: don't get is the control part. If we really want 182 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:40,320 Speaker 1: to dive into it, because he says, did Tony Cranti, 183 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 1: the referee said in the Pool report after the game 184 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:44,960 Speaker 1: that James lost complete control of the football, and I 185 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:47,720 Speaker 1: don't see how watching that play you can make the 186 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:50,719 Speaker 1: decision that he lost complete control of the football. Now, 187 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:53,440 Speaker 1: all of these rules were made and control it to 188 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:56,319 Speaker 1: to the ground and everything in a time when there 189 00:09:56,400 --> 00:09:59,720 Speaker 1: wasn't eight different HD cameras and there wasn't these slow 190 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 1: mo ocean frame by frame replays. And I thought maybe 191 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:06,319 Speaker 1: bringing the replay review into the league office in New 192 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 1: York would help to clarify things, But I don't think 193 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 1: it has. If anything, it's like they are going by 194 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 1: the letter of the rule even more and I think 195 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:18,319 Speaker 1: fans and broadcasters and us we're even more confused. So 196 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 1: it remains a problem. But I don't know what the 197 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 1: solution is. We can say change the catch roll, but 198 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:24,880 Speaker 1: I don't know change it to what it was before 199 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 1: the Calvin Johnson opened the can of worms? Why not 200 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 1: two feet in control? Why does it have to be 201 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:33,480 Speaker 1: so convoluted, right, because it does follow that followed what 202 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 1: their current rule is. It's not that, it's it's convoluted 203 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:38,440 Speaker 1: and confused with that the whole thing is convoluted to 204 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 1: begin with, and I think you have to spend the 205 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 1: offseason and say this is the one of the biggest 206 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:46,000 Speaker 1: issues facing the NFL. It couldn't have happened at a 207 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:48,560 Speaker 1: more high octane point than it did today, But it's 208 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 1: gonna happen again in the playoffs. Has in the past 209 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 1: this this ruling didn't bother me nearly as much as 210 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 1: the one in the Carolina Green Bay game, which was 211 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:59,000 Speaker 1: even more confusing. And the bird catch, Yes, the demere 212 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:02,079 Speaker 1: bird catch, and Dean Blandino early in the year on 213 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:06,560 Speaker 1: Zach Miller's TV that was overturned, outrageously overturned, said, Look, 214 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 1: the idea is not to get too technical, don't analyze 215 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 1: it to the nth degree. And this is what Riverron 216 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:15,680 Speaker 1: and the point you're making that the league office they're 217 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 1: analyzing it to the nth degree. There's there's not as 218 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:22,560 Speaker 1: much hesitation to have irrefutable evidence like it used to be. 219 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:25,560 Speaker 1: And you cannot now the game itself. The outcome the 220 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:27,600 Speaker 1: Steelers and our eleven and three, they dropped to the 221 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:30,920 Speaker 1: two seed with the Jaguars right behind a ten and four, 222 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 1: and they have two very winnable games left. Even without 223 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 1: Antonio Brown. They could get to thirteen and three, but 224 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 1: we don't know if Antonio Brown does come back, and 225 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:42,720 Speaker 1: rap Sheet says they're hopeful he'll be ready for the playoffs, 226 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:45,960 Speaker 1: if he'll be even near acent a torn calf muscle 227 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:48,439 Speaker 1: does not sound a good situation. And if they do 228 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 1: get to face the Patriots again, it will be in 229 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:54,160 Speaker 1: New England most likely, and all this points in a 230 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:56,440 Speaker 1: very bad direction where Pittsburgh season. It could have in 231 00:11:56,480 --> 00:11:58,640 Speaker 1: a lot of ways it could have ended today. Yeah, 232 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:02,600 Speaker 1: I watched this game fairly common as a Patriots fan 233 00:12:02,679 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 1: because to me, I've seen so many big games and 234 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 1: the important one is the next one that this one 235 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 1: didn't really. I mean, it matters, but it doesn't matter 236 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 1: that much that I think home field is is important, 237 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:14,520 Speaker 1: but it's not that important. There's a reason why. You know, 238 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:18,199 Speaker 1: if if you're wagering on it that it's worth three points, 239 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:20,600 Speaker 1: that's three points. It's not worth It's not necessarily the 240 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:22,520 Speaker 1: end of the world. I think the page the Steelers, 241 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:25,679 Speaker 1: especially with Antonio Brown, are a great team, and they 242 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 1: looked like the better team for much of this game, 243 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 1: and they did find a way to blow it. But 244 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 1: to me, these are two New England team didn't matter 245 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:36,559 Speaker 1: to Pittsburgh. If you're Pittsburgh and you're Mike Tomlin, who 246 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 1: cannot get over the Patriots. That entire team. They needed 247 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 1: to win this. They need to get home field. You 248 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:43,120 Speaker 1: can say it doesn't matter for New England because New 249 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:46,400 Speaker 1: England can win anywhere. The Pittsburgh Steelers, this is their 250 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:48,719 Speaker 1: season on the line. Mike Tomlins chance to make a 251 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:51,439 Speaker 1: statement win with or without Antonio Brown. It didn't have 252 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:53,839 Speaker 1: much confidence. Would they take into January? It would have 253 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:57,520 Speaker 1: changed the entire seaons big. You could tell the burgeoning 254 00:12:57,600 --> 00:13:01,199 Speaker 1: confidence the Steelers had that but like Terry Branshaw was 255 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 1: guaranteeing a victory on Fox Today and it seemed like 256 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 1: everybody had that confidence. Now you're gonna go into New 257 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:10,720 Speaker 1: England with Antonio Brown playing on a partially torn cath muscle, 258 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:13,199 Speaker 1: your your confidence is not going to be as high, alright. 259 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:15,720 Speaker 1: And I just wanted to point out we've talked a 260 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 1: lot about the m v P race, and I think 261 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 1: that was wroth. That was Brady's m v P moment. 262 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:26,040 Speaker 1: And as much as what happened with Smith Schuster's play 263 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:29,280 Speaker 1: afterwards and everything that came in a crazy comeback, the 264 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 1: reality was they were down two scores in this game, 265 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 1: with five minutes to go down eight points, rather with 266 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:38,680 Speaker 1: five minutes ago, they get a field goal, that defense 267 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:40,600 Speaker 1: gets a three and out, and that's why, again it's 268 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:42,679 Speaker 1: not all all luck that the defense had to make 269 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:45,440 Speaker 1: a play there. And then Brady has kind of a 270 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 1: classic Brady and Grounk drive, And with everything else that 271 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:50,760 Speaker 1: happened and Brown getting hurt today, I think he kind 272 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 1: of We're losing MVP candidates literally on a weekly basis 273 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:55,319 Speaker 1: at this point in December, unless you want to make it. 274 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 1: And we're gonna talk about Todd Gurley in a second, 275 00:13:56,840 --> 00:13:59,320 Speaker 1: unless you want to make a case for Girly. Maybe 276 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:02,560 Speaker 1: all that injuries and out wiped out Brown, wiped out 277 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:05,320 Speaker 1: Carson Wentz, wiped out de Shaun Watson, Tom Brady to 278 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:07,840 Speaker 1: his credit as the last man standing, and he'll probably 279 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:09,520 Speaker 1: win it. We'll see them having one of the best 280 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:12,080 Speaker 1: seasons of his career. Okay, we yes, we know that 281 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:15,200 Speaker 1: he's having a great season. Greg, congratulations. I'm just saying 282 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:17,360 Speaker 1: that you were all happy and it just gets like 283 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 1: thrown out, Like I mean, the heat sitting downstairs listening 284 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 1: to Megan stand all day long. I just there wasn't 285 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 1: everyone in this room and everyone listening to this podcast 286 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:28,280 Speaker 1: is aware that Tom Brady is having a great year. Okay, 287 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:31,960 Speaker 1: that's good. Okay, go, let's go. Let's check in on 288 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 1: the team of a t youer. He turns left shoulder, 289 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 1: gives the curly huge hole left side midfield, curly, squirty curly, 290 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 1: first down, curly touchdown Todd Gurley on third down in 291 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 1: twenty with a house call and before the half, this 292 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:54,160 Speaker 1: game is all but finished. M J B Long KSPN 293 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 1: with a great call. There. They'll remember it as the 294 00:14:57,120 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 1: Seattle massacre. Maybe they will, I don't. It was thirteen 295 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:03,760 Speaker 1: nothing after a quarter, thirty four zip at the half. 296 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 1: The game ended forty two to seven in favor of 297 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 1: the Los Angeles Rams. Yes, the team of eight who 298 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:17,320 Speaker 1: delivered a thumping that makes you wonder if the Seahawks 299 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 1: as we've known them are gone forever. The Rams, led 300 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:24,760 Speaker 1: by surging VP candidate Todd Gurley, are now twelve and 301 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 1: three with the NFC West and a playoff by locked 302 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:30,480 Speaker 1: in their sites West. This was a very good day 303 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 1: for the team of atl It was a statement game 304 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 1: with shades of a changing of the guard game. Oh yeah, definitely. 305 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 1: It's not every year that you see a comprehensive dismantling 306 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 1: in every phase of the game and one half of 307 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:49,640 Speaker 1: football like the Rams did to the Seahawks, going up 308 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 1: thirty four to nothing, their largest first half margin on 309 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 1: the road in franchise history and the second largest first 310 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 1: half deficit home the Seahawks have ever had. It was 311 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 1: absolute pummeling, Aaron Donald and Todd Gurley having their way, 312 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:10,480 Speaker 1: and the defensive and offensive lines of the Rams controlling 313 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 1: the game. You know, it's crazy. It could have been 314 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 1: forty three nothing there, forty five nothing in the first half. 315 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 1: Got through an interception in the red zone in the 316 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:21,640 Speaker 1: first half, Cooper Cup dropped the pass right near the 317 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 1: goal line. That's how dominant and balanced this team has been. 318 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 1: And we've talked about how they're good running, passing, defense, 319 00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:31,600 Speaker 1: and special teams. They were able to win this game 320 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:33,760 Speaker 1: and a laugher in a game that Jared Goff only 321 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:35,600 Speaker 1: had to throw at twenty one times for a hundred 322 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 1: and twenty yards in two thousand seventeen. You're blowing teams 323 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 1: out throwing for a they beat you in so many ways, 324 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:43,240 Speaker 1: and and West, You're right up. Was great because it 325 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 1: talked about the fact that this team houses, a Coach 326 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:48,840 Speaker 1: of the Year candidate, a potential m VP candidate, a 327 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 1: defensive Player of the Year candidate, and all pro in 328 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:53,280 Speaker 1: your kicker, And I mean it doesn't end from there. 329 00:16:53,280 --> 00:16:56,920 Speaker 1: And we're talking about a scenery changing NFC West victory 330 00:16:57,040 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 1: reminds me of a game back in two thousand twelve 331 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:01,920 Speaker 1: that I watched at the good old Irish Times when 332 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:06,359 Speaker 1: Seattle thumped Jim Harbaugh's Niners forty two to thirteen. And 333 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 1: there was this Niners fan in a little nice buttoned 334 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:11,440 Speaker 1: up red shirt who was freaking out by the fourth 335 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 1: quarter because he had no idea what was coming at him. Now, 336 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 1: what's happening to the Seahawks. I think we did pretty 337 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:18,720 Speaker 1: good with the Team of a t L this year. 338 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:22,480 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I don't want to hear any I don't 339 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:24,639 Speaker 1: even better about curses. Give me a break. This is 340 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:26,760 Speaker 1: one of the best bettest wins in the Team of 341 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:29,159 Speaker 1: eight history. And Greg, Greg, I believe you picked the 342 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 1: team of a TL this week. That's right, locked it up? Yeah, 343 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:35,960 Speaker 1: you locked it up? And uh there were thousands of 344 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:38,520 Speaker 1: people streaming out of the clink in the third quarter 345 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:41,080 Speaker 1: of this game. There's some video of it. I mean 346 00:17:41,119 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 1: it was something, and when we talked about this game 347 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:45,720 Speaker 1: on Thursday, I thought the Seahawks are gonna win it 348 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:49,399 Speaker 1: because I thought even down bodies that they had something 349 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:51,199 Speaker 1: in the tank in this type of spot. But this 350 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:53,680 Speaker 1: did feel like a changing of the guard where those 351 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:56,840 Speaker 1: days are now definitively over. It feels like I don't 352 00:17:56,840 --> 00:17:58,680 Speaker 1: think we're ever going to see the Seahawks like they 353 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:01,159 Speaker 1: used to be. I don't know if I remember a 354 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:03,680 Speaker 1: time when a running back had a hundred more yards 355 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 1: than the other team at the half. Early has been 356 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:08,959 Speaker 1: in sensational and he's getting better every week. He's been 357 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 1: the best running back. He hasn't got as much pub 358 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:13,719 Speaker 1: as people like Alvin Camara this year, but he's been 359 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:16,040 Speaker 1: the best running back in the NFL. He had a 360 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:18,880 Speaker 1: hundred and eighty yards and four touchdowns, and he left 361 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:21,399 Speaker 1: in the middle of the third quarter, never to return 362 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:23,760 Speaker 1: because the game was already out of and Aaron Donald 363 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:27,760 Speaker 1: had three sacks, four hits, two tackles for loss, a 364 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 1: force fumble, all in two and a half quarters. I 365 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 1: think he's the best defensive player in the league. So 366 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:34,640 Speaker 1: he was my muscle. Wilson called him that going into 367 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:37,120 Speaker 1: this He he was my default choice for Defensive Player 368 00:18:37,119 --> 00:18:39,680 Speaker 1: of the Year through three quarters. And now I think 369 00:18:39,880 --> 00:18:42,640 Speaker 1: this type of performance, in piling up some of those 370 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:44,720 Speaker 1: sacks and stats and it being in a big game, 371 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:46,320 Speaker 1: now I think people are going to vote for I 372 00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:48,480 Speaker 1: think had a Saints player is defensive player of the year. 373 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 1: About he was number two, He was number two in 374 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:52,480 Speaker 1: the in the four and you know I ranked him 375 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:54,359 Speaker 1: or whatever. You're lucky because we can't keep track of 376 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:56,800 Speaker 1: all your predictions, so we have no idea if that 377 00:18:56,840 --> 00:18:59,400 Speaker 1: one's not so much a prediction as Bobby Wagner after 378 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:01,879 Speaker 1: the game, you mentioned Dan possibly you know the end 379 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:04,159 Speaker 1: of the Seahawks dynasty. I think you know if they 380 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:06,240 Speaker 1: all get healthy and back. Look, they're missing four or 381 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 1: five good starters. They can be very compati next to you, 382 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:11,040 Speaker 1: but you are seeing some of the things that happened 383 00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:15,040 Speaker 1: late in these runs. After the game, Bobby Wagner sent 384 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 1: out a tweet, which was quickly deleted, e keep my 385 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:21,400 Speaker 1: name out your mouth. Stop being jealous of other people's success. 386 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:24,919 Speaker 1: I still hope you keep balling, and that was in 387 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 1: response to Earl Thomas's opinion that he should not have 388 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 1: played with his injured hamstring. He tried to fight through it. 389 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:34,679 Speaker 1: I don't think Bobby Wagner's hamstring was a difference in 390 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:37,800 Speaker 1: the game. Well, Greg, the Seahawks now eight and six, 391 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:41,359 Speaker 1: so it's time to fire up the old Greg Rosenthal tabulator. 392 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:44,800 Speaker 1: Any path for them if they close out or is 393 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 1: it over? Playoffs calculator now online, they still have a 394 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:56,680 Speaker 1: good chance of making the playoffs they win their two games. 395 00:19:56,920 --> 00:19:59,800 Speaker 1: I don't know if they're gonna win their two games. Uh, 396 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:03,439 Speaker 1: they play the Cowboys and the Cardinals, and yeah, they 397 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:05,240 Speaker 1: need help. They're gonna They're gonna need the Falcons to 398 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:09,000 Speaker 1: lose a game or two, two games probably, Yeah, it 399 00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 1: doesn't part of that good chance include the Buccaneers and 400 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:16,200 Speaker 1: unlikely upset over the Falcons. I think that they'll need 401 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 1: the Falcons to lose two games the falconimistic robot. The 402 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:22,440 Speaker 1: Falcons play the Saints and the Panthers. I mean, I'm 403 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 1: just saying. You said, if they win their two games 404 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:28,440 Speaker 1: and they Falcons play, Falcons play the Bucks tomorrow night, Yeah, 405 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:31,080 Speaker 1: and a very underman Bucks team without Jerald McCoy and 406 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:34,320 Speaker 1: Lavonte Dave. They know other sensational Monday night tilt. They 407 00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:36,320 Speaker 1: finished with the Saints and the Panthers. So that I 408 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:38,120 Speaker 1: think if you're a Seahawks fan, gives you a little 409 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:39,360 Speaker 1: bit of hope. But I don't know. This is kind 410 00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:41,720 Speaker 1: of a dead, dead team right now. All right, So 411 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:43,040 Speaker 1: there you go. The team of at L in a 412 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:46,640 Speaker 1: good place. Seahawks not so much. Let's move on. There's 413 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:48,879 Speaker 1: a low snap. Roger's back looks coming, rolls on the 414 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:50,639 Speaker 1: slant right, so I cut by Alice and he's hit. 415 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 1: The ball came out. There's a fight for it. Looks 416 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 1: like Carolina is on top of it. The officials coming 417 00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 1: to it. Take a look. It's Pether's football Mick mix 418 00:20:59,880 --> 00:21:03,399 Speaker 1: and w BT with the call Toronimo Allison's turnover wiped 419 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:06,440 Speaker 1: away any chance of Aaron Rodgers magic, and the Panthers 420 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:10,400 Speaker 1: held on for a win over the Packers in Charlotte. 421 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:14,359 Speaker 1: Uh Cam Newton through for two yards and four touchdowns 422 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 1: in the game, which we'll get to in a second. 423 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:18,879 Speaker 1: Let's start though, with a huge news off the field. 424 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:24,119 Speaker 1: Panthers founding owner Jerry Richardson announced Sunday night that he 425 00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:27,919 Speaker 1: will be putting the team up for sale. This development 426 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:32,120 Speaker 1: comes as the NFL takes over the investigation into allegations 427 00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:37,840 Speaker 1: of workplace misconduct made against Richardson. Uh This, that report 428 00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 1: that the NFL was taking over came from Ian Rappaport 429 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:44,720 Speaker 1: on Sunday morning. Uh So Richardson, who has been one 430 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:47,399 Speaker 1: of the Titans and ownership in the NFL since he 431 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:51,679 Speaker 1: came into the league abruptly making this announcement, and um, 432 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:54,919 Speaker 1: it is quite the distraction for a Panther's team that 433 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:58,600 Speaker 1: is finding its footing as the season enters its latest stage. 434 00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:05,240 Speaker 1: Lets this happened the news that the team was investigating Richardson, 435 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:08,960 Speaker 1: which was interesting in itself because he owns the team 436 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 1: and so that you know, he's the one hiring the 437 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:14,360 Speaker 1: lawyers paying the lawyers that are investigating him. Came out 438 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:19,560 Speaker 1: Friday afternoon, Los Angeles time, and we're talking now Sunday 439 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:24,639 Speaker 1: afternoon and he's selling the team. That is a quick process, 440 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:28,280 Speaker 1: which we've seen play out in all walks of stunning. 441 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:33,879 Speaker 1: It's not stunning in December that you can't have this 442 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:37,959 Speaker 1: hanging over the team throughout the off season. And whoever 443 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:41,359 Speaker 1: knows how it's long. There's no tolerance. I suppose it 444 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:43,960 Speaker 1: makes it a little bit and you're dead on your point, Mark, 445 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:45,719 Speaker 1: But what makes it a little more surprising for me 446 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:50,440 Speaker 1: is Richardson sitting in the owner's box on Sunday. Uh, 447 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 1: we see the Fox cameras flashed to the box and 448 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:56,920 Speaker 1: there's Richardson sitting there. Not ten minutes after, um we 449 00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:01,320 Speaker 1: learned that a reported surface involving Richardson. And it's a 450 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:04,560 Speaker 1: situation where it's so sudden you'd never see this kind 451 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:05,960 Speaker 1: of things, But it does tell you a lot of 452 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 1: what's happening in the world right now and how it 453 00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:11,000 Speaker 1: came into the NFL now as well. Well. I think 454 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 1: one thing we're seeing is that people impositions of power 455 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:18,200 Speaker 1: and influence. We'll be we'll have to answer for taking 456 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:21,840 Speaker 1: advantage of that position. And and you you raise an 457 00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:25,120 Speaker 1: interesting point, you know, moving to the football side of things, 458 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:29,720 Speaker 1: that this is, this story isn't going away in the Panthers. 459 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:33,080 Speaker 1: Because of today's result and how well they've played this season, 460 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:34,960 Speaker 1: they're not going away either. So this is gonna be 461 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 1: something that the organization has to deal with continuously the 462 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:41,920 Speaker 1: next few weeks. I was saying to Mark actually after 463 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:44,639 Speaker 1: the game, which was a huge win for the Panthers, 464 00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:46,760 Speaker 1: you know, Aaron Rodgers and all the buzz around him 465 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:51,639 Speaker 1: leading the Packers back to January gets wiped away, essentially 466 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:55,440 Speaker 1: by through another great Carolina performance. But after this game, 467 00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:58,199 Speaker 1: this great effort by the Panthers, I can you even 468 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:00,080 Speaker 1: imagine what was going on that locker room. How the 469 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:02,880 Speaker 1: questions were actually about the game. I'm sure there were, 470 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:06,040 Speaker 1: because that's part of the the info gathering of reporters. 471 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:08,439 Speaker 1: But that's not the story around the pan It's overshadowed. 472 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:11,879 Speaker 1: But it's an unprecedented action and an unprecedented time in 473 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:14,480 Speaker 1: our country, and the people are gonna have to ask 474 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:16,239 Speaker 1: the Panthers, hey, what are you gonna do about it? 475 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:18,880 Speaker 1: That's they closed that case down quickly, and I think 476 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 1: that handled that well. Well, those players walk out of 477 00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:23,080 Speaker 1: the locker room and out of the stadium, they walked 478 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:27,200 Speaker 1: past a statue of Jerry Richards. Well, for now, it's 479 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:31,200 Speaker 1: not simple. I mean it is statues can be taken down. 480 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:33,760 Speaker 1: We've seen that too. Um, now for towards the game, 481 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:37,640 Speaker 1: so West, we'll start with you on this Aaron Rodgers 482 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:40,399 Speaker 1: back on the field. Um, it was a lot a 483 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:42,480 Speaker 1: lot of people expected that to be a magic alixer, 484 00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:45,720 Speaker 1: but he proved to be human. Because Aaron Rodgers was 485 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:47,639 Speaker 1: a little rusty in his return, wasn't he. Yeah, you 486 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:50,359 Speaker 1: saw a little bit of everything from Aaron Rodgers today. 487 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:53,639 Speaker 1: If you were looking for uh reason to believe that 488 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:57,040 Speaker 1: he wouldn't change his playing style, you found that he scrambled. 489 00:24:57,280 --> 00:25:01,160 Speaker 1: He should no reluctance whatsoever to scramble his body in jeopardy, 490 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:04,560 Speaker 1: took hits on that shoulder. Uh made one of his 491 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:08,919 Speaker 1: trademark sand lot style plays to Randall Cobb for a touchdown. 492 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:13,560 Speaker 1: But also the arm strength or the decision making, probably 493 00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:16,840 Speaker 1: a little bit of both was rusty. Um. All three 494 00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:19,600 Speaker 1: of his interceptions were underthrown, and all three of those 495 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:22,080 Speaker 1: plays would have been huge plays had the ball been 496 00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:25,240 Speaker 1: on target. So I think that was definitely a difference 497 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:27,479 Speaker 1: in this game. And for all that being said, he 498 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:30,280 Speaker 1: was driving for the time or even if they wanted 499 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:32,679 Speaker 1: to go for a two point conversion potentially winning score 500 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:35,159 Speaker 1: late in the game, only to see Gerno moll Alice 501 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:38,879 Speaker 1: and fumble the ball in Panther's territory. It felt to 502 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:41,760 Speaker 1: me watching that that oh, yeah, you know, he struggled, 503 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:44,639 Speaker 1: But this is exactly what I would have expected. I 504 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:46,560 Speaker 1: know that, Dan, you expect New England games in a 505 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 1: certain way, and I totallyhim with you on that, but 506 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:50,919 Speaker 1: I thought this is the perfect Aaron Rodgers return for 507 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:53,439 Speaker 1: all his flaws in this game. He's gonna find a 508 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:55,320 Speaker 1: way to tie this thing up. Green Bay is gonna 509 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:57,840 Speaker 1: keep on rolling. But then suddenly the whole Aaron Rodgers 510 00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:01,800 Speaker 1: narrative got violently as circuited in there, out of our life. 511 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:03,840 Speaker 1: For the most part, it's you're happy about that too, 512 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:08,119 Speaker 1: that I'm not. I'm not a Packers guy, but at 513 00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:10,959 Speaker 1: the same time, I like the idea of having for 514 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:13,560 Speaker 1: all the people that we've lost the best teams possible 515 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:15,760 Speaker 1: in the playoffs. Well, we also kind of lose Aaron 516 00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:18,800 Speaker 1: Rodgers now, because it's possible. You would think that they 517 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:21,320 Speaker 1: could decide to shut him down because he even almost certain. 518 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:25,160 Speaker 1: Rogers said himself, he's not If the Falcons beat the Bucks, 519 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:27,600 Speaker 1: the Packers are mathematically lib. You have no reason to 520 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:29,520 Speaker 1: play Rogers. If the Falcons win that game, Tom all 521 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:33,960 Speaker 1: Night and Cam Newton um through four touchdown passes, no interceptions, 522 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:37,359 Speaker 1: protected the ball. Christian McCaffrey has really um as the 523 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:40,960 Speaker 1: season has progressed. He doesn't put up monster stats, but 524 00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 1: he's a big part of their game plan. Every week 525 00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:45,200 Speaker 1: and he had over I think a hundred and forty 526 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:48,240 Speaker 1: yards in total offense and another touchdown. Greg Olsen, who's 527 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:50,480 Speaker 1: kind of moving like my dad now later in his 528 00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:52,720 Speaker 1: softball career where he's got a little hitch in his 529 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:54,480 Speaker 1: giddy up, but he could still get the job done 530 00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:57,040 Speaker 1: like Keith was. Still keeps still getting into that. See 531 00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:59,480 Speaker 1: he's Keith was driving the ball up the gap as 532 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:01,520 Speaker 1: he got into his fifties even but he didn't move 533 00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:03,399 Speaker 1: like he used to. Greg Olsen, not moving like he 534 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:05,679 Speaker 1: used to. But he's crafty nine for one, sixteen in 535 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:08,159 Speaker 1: a touch uh in this game, and that's a big 536 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:11,120 Speaker 1: positive sign West As someone that's enjoyed the Panthers over 537 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:13,760 Speaker 1: the years. This team's ten and four, do you think 538 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:16,120 Speaker 1: they could be a team we'd be covering in Minneapolis? 539 00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:19,320 Speaker 1: They need home field advantage, and I think that Dave 540 00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:22,760 Speaker 1: Shula deserves credit for his play calling. Uh. They are 541 00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:27,720 Speaker 1: now definitely a run first team today. The Packers, like 542 00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:29,840 Speaker 1: any other team in the league, don't have anyone who 543 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:32,760 Speaker 1: can cover Christian McCaffrey one on one as a receiver, 544 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:35,720 Speaker 1: and they got burned by that. Their own coverage bust 545 00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:39,639 Speaker 1: lad to the Greg Olsen production. Um, this is a 546 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:41,680 Speaker 1: team I don't trust their passing game at all because 547 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:44,920 Speaker 1: Cam Newton from week to week is not a consistent passer, 548 00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:48,040 Speaker 1: and they're they're running game is really clicking on on 549 00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:51,040 Speaker 1: most cylinders right now. So and their defense is is 550 00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:53,040 Speaker 1: a top five or six defense too. You have the 551 00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:54,919 Speaker 1: Bucks and the Falcons to close it out twelve and 552 00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:58,440 Speaker 1: four not impossible. Let's check in with another NFC South 553 00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:05,919 Speaker 1: juggernaut backs off set ing and there he goes inside 554 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:14,680 Speaker 1: the thirty five thirty five todown touchdown Saints. That's Jim 555 00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:18,560 Speaker 1: Henderson induced McAlister w w L. I believe McAllister was 556 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:20,679 Speaker 1: telling him slide slide because the game was kind of 557 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:24,120 Speaker 1: decided that point, but whatever mark Ingram ran for two 558 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:27,280 Speaker 1: touchdowns and gained over a hundred and fifty yards UH 559 00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:30,720 Speaker 1: in total offense, including that late fifty yard touchdown run. 560 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:35,600 Speaker 1: These Saints UH commit three turnovers but still take care 561 00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:38,200 Speaker 1: of the Jets thirty one to nineteen. Never mind the 562 00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:40,920 Speaker 1: final score. This was kind of a grinded out win 563 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:43,800 Speaker 1: for the Saints, which I think surprised a lot of 564 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:47,000 Speaker 1: people because if you if you talk desert people, UH, 565 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:49,360 Speaker 1: this game featured one of the biggest underdogs of the 566 00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:52,440 Speaker 1: season and the Jets. But they hung around, and they 567 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:56,240 Speaker 1: hung around because mostly New Orleans was sloppy with the ball. 568 00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:59,320 Speaker 1: They had the three turnovers, including two when they were 569 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:02,960 Speaker 1: kind of marching deep into Jets territory. Unfortunately for the 570 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:06,440 Speaker 1: Jets it is now Bryce Petty and not Josh mccounter quarterback. 571 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:10,320 Speaker 1: So and after each of those turnovers. Um, the Jets 572 00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:13,520 Speaker 1: were unable to uh turn that around and make them 573 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:16,760 Speaker 1: make the Saints really pay for it. But the Saints 574 00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:20,040 Speaker 1: got the win they needed. Uh. No lollipops will be 575 00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:22,440 Speaker 1: handed out I think at the complex on Monday because 576 00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:25,320 Speaker 1: it wasn't their best game. But when you're facing a 577 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:28,680 Speaker 1: Bryce Petty team with Moe Wilkerson out of the game 578 00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:30,959 Speaker 1: because he still can't get to a meeting on time. 579 00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:33,640 Speaker 1: Uh and if you're Todd Bowls, he should be sitting 580 00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:36,080 Speaker 1: for the rest of the season in my opinion, Um, 581 00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:38,520 Speaker 1: the Saints didn't enough to get the win. Mark ingram 582 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:41,120 Speaker 1: by the way, that is now over a thousand yards 583 00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:45,480 Speaker 1: for the second straight season. The brows a star. Saints 584 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:48,400 Speaker 1: also have this identical schedule flip blop to the Panthers 585 00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:51,360 Speaker 1: with the Falcons and Bucks next. So this division kind 586 00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:54,160 Speaker 1: of far from over. Yeah, you know, we're taping the 587 00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:57,760 Speaker 1: Sunday night, assuming that the Falcons do win on Monday night. 588 00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:00,600 Speaker 1: I mean, this is still a three team race where 589 00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:04,520 Speaker 1: it's getting very unlikely that any of the teams could 590 00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:07,040 Speaker 1: get a buy. But any of these teams could be 591 00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:11,280 Speaker 1: anywhere from the three seed too. If you're the Falcons 592 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:15,160 Speaker 1: out of the playoffs entirely, UM, Michael Thomas. It was 593 00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:17,720 Speaker 1: kind of emblematic of the performance for the Saints. Had 594 00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:23,000 Speaker 1: two touchdowns wiped away by inches upon review, uh scored 595 00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:26,000 Speaker 1: later to put the game away. One of them involved 596 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:29,360 Speaker 1: getting one ft down and then the second foot speaking 597 00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:32,000 Speaker 1: catch rules and things that drive me crazy, got his 598 00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:35,360 Speaker 1: heel down in the end zone and then his front 599 00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:38,080 Speaker 1: of his foot stepped on the white line and that 600 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:40,880 Speaker 1: was overturned as an incomplete pass. We saw on Saturday, 601 00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:43,120 Speaker 1: and I'm blanking. I think it was the Lions, UM, 602 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:44,440 Speaker 1: And maybe you guys can help me out if you 603 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:49,200 Speaker 1: remember a playwre receiver caught a ball and his fingers 604 00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:52,680 Speaker 1: touchdown inbounds and then hit the palm of his hands 605 00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:55,920 Speaker 1: landed on the white but that stayed a touchdown. There 606 00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:58,720 Speaker 1: were a lot of confusing calls like that, where like 607 00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:01,640 Speaker 1: a finger equals a toe or doesn't equal to one 608 00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:03,400 Speaker 1: butt cheek in and one butt cheek out. In the 609 00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:06,200 Speaker 1: Panthers games, we have some buttocks stuff going on to 610 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:09,160 Speaker 1: where like West said, when when aask cheeks in one's 611 00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:11,880 Speaker 1: out it's a touchdown. It's it's very confused. Know what's crazy. 612 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:13,280 Speaker 1: It's like we are we sit in a news from 613 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:15,200 Speaker 1: where you can suddenly like jack up the volume. Everyone 614 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:17,520 Speaker 1: can sit around and hear everything that's happening. A lot 615 00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:20,280 Speaker 1: of these people, great football fans, watch these games and 616 00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:23,680 Speaker 1: sports bars where only one game gets sound and you're 617 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:26,400 Speaker 1: watching replays and having no idea of the drama behind 618 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:29,320 Speaker 1: the scenes. Even more maddening. You gotta change all this stuff. 619 00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:31,960 Speaker 1: It's lost Larry Warford. In this game, they have not 620 00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:34,520 Speaker 1: at Andrew's pete on the field. Those are really their 621 00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:37,280 Speaker 1: two best run blockers and and part of the reason 622 00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:39,440 Speaker 1: that they're such a good running team. So that's something 623 00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:41,000 Speaker 1: to keep an eye. And Cam Jordan, who is trying 624 00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:43,120 Speaker 1: to get a triple double. First guy in a little 625 00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:45,920 Speaker 1: while to have ten pass breakups, ten sacks, tent tackles 626 00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:48,640 Speaker 1: for lost. He did it with four pass breakups today. Wow. 627 00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:52,440 Speaker 1: Wow stat there, Greg Uh And lastly, Todd Bowles announced 628 00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:54,600 Speaker 1: Bryce Petty will start next week as well. And I 629 00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:57,840 Speaker 1: have to wonder how bad is Christian. I mean, just 630 00:31:58,000 --> 00:31:59,720 Speaker 1: let us see how bad he is. I'm just excited. 631 00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:01,960 Speaker 1: I want a curiosity at this point. It's one of 632 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:04,920 Speaker 1: the worst second round picks of model times for sure. 633 00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:07,360 Speaker 1: And it is, it really is. It's kind of like 634 00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:10,360 Speaker 1: a like the Freak show on the boardwalk in Venice, 635 00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:14,120 Speaker 1: which is shuttered now. But uh, like Christian Hackerberg is 636 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:16,440 Speaker 1: now at that level in terms of the freak. He's 637 00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:21,240 Speaker 1: the bearded lady. He's beard Lady of the NFL quarterback room. 638 00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:25,040 Speaker 1: Let's move on five clips by Rivers. He fades back 639 00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:27,760 Speaker 1: on fourth down near midfield, the dangerous lop right side 640 00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:31,440 Speaker 1: and or suthing back pedaling and falling onto his back round. 641 00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:35,520 Speaker 1: Parker adds a pick to his fumball recovery. Rivers turned 642 00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:39,640 Speaker 1: over a game. Let's move to Saturday Night and Mitch 643 00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:42,640 Speaker 1: Holdness of k c f X with the call Philip 644 00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:46,240 Speaker 1: Rivers through three interceptions. Uh Kareem Hunt ran for a 645 00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:49,560 Speaker 1: buck fifty five and a touch and the Chiefs beat 646 00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:56,120 Speaker 1: up on the sloppy Los Angeles Chargers. At win for 647 00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:59,840 Speaker 1: the Chiefs, a loss for the old Zeuser, who, you know, 648 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,320 Speaker 1: almost like a act of I wanted to get in 649 00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:04,600 Speaker 1: on the fun. Every everybody else was excited about the Chargers. 650 00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:06,840 Speaker 1: All Right, let's do this. That's some fun. And it's like, 651 00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:09,560 Speaker 1: as I'm watching that game, I'm like, why did I 652 00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:11,600 Speaker 1: do this? I already have the Jets, who always come 653 00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:14,480 Speaker 1: up small when just when you think that they're turning 654 00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:16,560 Speaker 1: the corner. I am not getting involved with the Chargers 655 00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:18,520 Speaker 1: who've been doing this for fifty years. You're also the 656 00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:21,320 Speaker 1: person that had been warning us correctly for weeks that 657 00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:23,800 Speaker 1: the other side of the Chargers was due to come 658 00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:27,080 Speaker 1: home to roost here. Yeah, so that's exactly what happened. 659 00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:30,000 Speaker 1: Whatever wes uh. This was not the Chargers team that 660 00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:33,240 Speaker 1: got everyone excited over the last month. Almost every element 661 00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:36,320 Speaker 1: that contributed to their winning streak came back to haunt 662 00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:39,520 Speaker 1: them in this game. Injuries were a big factor, especially 663 00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:42,520 Speaker 1: in the second half. Special teams play was a factor, 664 00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:47,080 Speaker 1: poor tackling was a huge factor, and the hottest quarterback 665 00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:50,560 Speaker 1: in the game went cold and through three second half interceptions. 666 00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:53,200 Speaker 1: Uh that makes six in or six of his tenners 667 00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:56,200 Speaker 1: interceptions this year came against the Chiefs. And Kennan Allen 668 00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:59,920 Speaker 1: means probably as almost as much to the Chargers as 669 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:03,680 Speaker 1: Antonio Brown means to this and that I don't know 670 00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:06,120 Speaker 1: what his injury status is going to be moving forward, 671 00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:08,120 Speaker 1: But they are not out of the a f C 672 00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:12,319 Speaker 1: wild card race at all mathematically. But if they don't 673 00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:14,279 Speaker 1: have Keenan Allen, they're not the same team. I want 674 00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:18,200 Speaker 1: to say, how dare you Chargers for doing this to us? 675 00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:20,880 Speaker 1: But at the same time, I think this is the 676 00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:24,719 Speaker 1: kind of game that gets Matt Nagy a head coaching job. 677 00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:27,239 Speaker 1: I mean, I give Andy Reid credit because I'm sure 678 00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:29,399 Speaker 1: there's a lot of pride attached to this to hand 679 00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:32,200 Speaker 1: over play calling duties. What two or three weeks ago, 680 00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:35,120 Speaker 1: it reignited for whatever reason. We don't know how how 681 00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:37,200 Speaker 1: these things suddenly work. Maybe it helped to take this 682 00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:39,960 Speaker 1: off Reid's plate with whatever he's doing. But the offense 683 00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:42,920 Speaker 1: is back, and of all things, the fact that the defense, 684 00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:46,120 Speaker 1: when thanks to turnovers, hold the Chargers to thirteen points 685 00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:48,080 Speaker 1: in offense, looked as hot as any in the league. 686 00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:50,319 Speaker 1: A stunning results. It's easy to forget in this game 687 00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:53,560 Speaker 1: they were the Chargers were winning the game right late quarter. 688 00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:56,360 Speaker 1: It was a close game, and I think that the 689 00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:58,759 Speaker 1: edge and head coaching is why the Chiefs are gonna 690 00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:00,520 Speaker 1: be the a f C West champion. And I know 691 00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:03,160 Speaker 1: he gave the play calling over to Naggie. It's his offense. 692 00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:05,319 Speaker 1: I'm sure he has a lot of input. Even during 693 00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:07,880 Speaker 1: the game. He certainly has a lot of inputs like 694 00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:10,279 Speaker 1: I'm not listening to you. No, no, no, you're out. 695 00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:12,759 Speaker 1: He certainly has a lot of input into the game plan. 696 00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:15,319 Speaker 1: And they out coached the Chargers. They came out with 697 00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:17,839 Speaker 1: great play cause and it was definitely Andy Reid who's 698 00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:19,880 Speaker 1: choosing to go for it on fourth and three on 699 00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:22,480 Speaker 1: that first job with really set a tone of aggressiveness 700 00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:24,840 Speaker 1: and they picked it up and they scored. That's future 701 00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:29,600 Speaker 1: Colts coach Matt Nagi or future Browns coach because everybody 702 00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:32,960 Speaker 1: nags up in Cincinnati. Baby, what do we know about Mattie. 703 00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:36,399 Speaker 1: I know more about Charles Naggy than Matt n Andy 704 00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:39,160 Speaker 1: Reid called him the best head coaching prospect he's ever had. 705 00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:41,200 Speaker 1: That includes Douck Peterson, who's a Coach of the Year 706 00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:46,600 Speaker 1: camp Andy Reid's coached about half Andy Reid and ahead 707 00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:50,200 Speaker 1: of that is the second most important coaching figure of 708 00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:52,520 Speaker 1: the last twenty years, behind Bill Belchick. Not only is 709 00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:55,440 Speaker 1: he a top five coach, He's had all sorts of 710 00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:58,640 Speaker 1: coaches go through his staff and go on to bigger 711 00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:00,640 Speaker 1: and better things, including a lot of good some bad ones, 712 00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:04,919 Speaker 1: some good ones. Embarrassing that you missed al grow. Probably 713 00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:09,919 Speaker 1: the Chiefs looked like the September and apparent big time 714 00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:13,680 Speaker 1: I missed it running by me again. He was number 715 00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:16,279 Speaker 1: three on the Influence of Coaching list of the last 716 00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:20,480 Speaker 1: time He's on the Parcels Street with the Chiefs looked 717 00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:23,040 Speaker 1: like the September and early October Chiefs for two straight 718 00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:26,240 Speaker 1: weeks now, and offensively, it's easy for me to believe 719 00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:28,840 Speaker 1: they're back. The running game is certainly back. The offensive 720 00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:32,480 Speaker 1: line Kareem Hunt looks good. Defensively, I think it remains 721 00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:34,560 Speaker 1: to be seen how much of this is home field advantage. 722 00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:37,680 Speaker 1: Leaders in Houston were awesome, though they have superstar players 723 00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:39,480 Speaker 1: who are occasionally in a big game like this can 724 00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:41,200 Speaker 1: just win it on your own. And Marcus Peters and 725 00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:44,040 Speaker 1: Justin Houston were dominant, and I think the football gotna 726 00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:52,000 Speaker 1: sent the which includes us, uh you know, deserve Sorry sorry, cheefs, 727 00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:55,000 Speaker 1: we counted you out a couple of weeks ago. They're okay. 728 00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:58,680 Speaker 1: Now they're looking credit right before they're losing, are right 729 00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:00,960 Speaker 1: into their losing streak, and then they are so screw that. 730 00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:03,800 Speaker 1: It's a week to week proposition. I watched. I watched 731 00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:07,080 Speaker 1: the pick up segment this morning. My my children requested 732 00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:09,000 Speaker 1: it because they like what They're like, let's watch the 733 00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:10,960 Speaker 1: Daddy Show and it's been a few weeks. I showed 734 00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:13,879 Speaker 1: him that the wind loser draw segment that we did 735 00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:16,399 Speaker 1: pictionary a few weeks back, and all four of us 736 00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:19,320 Speaker 1: like confidently picked the Raiders to be half our ratings 737 00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:23,640 Speaker 1: share coming from the Rosenthal House, Uh, we're down, We're down. 738 00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:25,520 Speaker 1: I heard they cut us now to just a ten 739 00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:29,160 Speaker 1: minutes sliver on networks done from four airings to two minutes. 740 00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:32,040 Speaker 1: The NFL's defense I thought about I thought about it 741 00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:35,000 Speaker 1: on Saturday as I was watching you know, NFL games 742 00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:37,799 Speaker 1: all day on NFL Network and thought, well, I guess 743 00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:40,120 Speaker 1: that makes sense that they went with Bears, Lions and 744 00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:43,239 Speaker 1: charges Chiefs over NFL pick them well, that's a sensible 745 00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:48,040 Speaker 1: disab Maybe maybe charges Um and speaking, the charge is 746 00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:51,200 Speaker 1: gonna charge her. Sorry, charges fans, they got your hopes 747 00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:54,239 Speaker 1: up again. Let's move on third and six from his 748 00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:56,879 Speaker 1: own twenty three point clock to one. They get it off. 749 00:37:56,920 --> 00:38:09,440 Speaker 1: Don't look Cadricks new side. Hello, Eric Kendricks with a 750 00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:17,760 Speaker 1: thirty yard pick six zero. It does zero thing. Paul 751 00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:20,840 Speaker 1: Allen and Pete Bursts of kf x N with the 752 00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:23,439 Speaker 1: call yes, Eric Hendricks came up with a pick six. 753 00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:28,440 Speaker 1: Case Keenum delivered another professional, productive game, and the Minnesota 754 00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:31,759 Speaker 1: Vikings clinch the NFC North after a thirty four seven 755 00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:34,319 Speaker 1: win over the Bengals, who look every bit like a 756 00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:37,040 Speaker 1: team that's playing out the string, whether they head coach 757 00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:40,200 Speaker 1: already half out the door. We'll get to the Marvis 758 00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:44,279 Speaker 1: Marvis Lewis Marvin Lewis situation in a moment, but let's 759 00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:47,520 Speaker 1: start with the Vikings, who remain a very real contender 760 00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:50,719 Speaker 1: for the NFC's number one seed. Mark. You know, when 761 00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:53,360 Speaker 1: we cover these games on Sunday, you have a primary 762 00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:55,279 Speaker 1: game and then you have a secondary game to bring 763 00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:57,000 Speaker 1: it to the podcast that you keep an eye on. 764 00:38:58,120 --> 00:38:59,880 Speaker 1: And so if it's a really exciting game you might 765 00:38:59,880 --> 00:39:01,680 Speaker 1: have and flip TVs and put the other game on 766 00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:03,680 Speaker 1: the on the computer, and you know you got like 767 00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:07,239 Speaker 1: a four gotta hold lot thing going on now six 768 00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:09,080 Speaker 1: with about less than six minutes to go in the 769 00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:12,480 Speaker 1: first quarter, when Kendricks had that pick six making it 770 00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:15,279 Speaker 1: fourteen nothing. I didn't really observe this game again. I 771 00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:16,799 Speaker 1: will go back and track it here and there. The 772 00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:21,319 Speaker 1: Vikings romped over Cincinnati in every possible way, and the 773 00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:24,080 Speaker 1: Bengals with forty two total yards in the first half, 774 00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:27,319 Speaker 1: the third fewest in the Marvin Lewis era. And it 775 00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:30,279 Speaker 1: is not deceiving. This team over the left since that 776 00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:33,279 Speaker 1: loss to the Steelers has looked as bad as that 777 00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:37,120 Speaker 1: they gotta wiped out by their bears. They they are asleep. 778 00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:39,719 Speaker 1: We forked them a month plus ago. We should have 779 00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:42,480 Speaker 1: forked them on September ten. This team never came to 780 00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:45,640 Speaker 1: play this season. This is an embarrassing loss. It is 781 00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:48,720 Speaker 1: time to completely re order this thing from top to bottom. 782 00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:50,840 Speaker 1: And it starts with Andy Dalton and a bunch of 783 00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:53,480 Speaker 1: other players. You gotta redo this thing. Hit the reset 784 00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:55,719 Speaker 1: button and don't look back. And yet they were in 785 00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:59,719 Speaker 1: very good playoff position at halftime. Of that Monday night game, 786 00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:02,879 Speaker 1: which really it makes it so much more stark how 787 00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:05,239 Speaker 1: they've been the worst team in football for the last 788 00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:08,319 Speaker 1: That's fine, and that that happened, I think because of 789 00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:10,360 Speaker 1: what happened with Ryan ches Hear and you caught a 790 00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:14,280 Speaker 1: Steelers team that was stunned by Earth events, not football events, 791 00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:17,600 Speaker 1: and then Pittsburgh had the wherewithal to collect themselves at 792 00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:20,880 Speaker 1: halftime and hammer a hapless Bengals team in the second half. 793 00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:23,399 Speaker 1: And nothing has changed. The Bengals revealed who they are. 794 00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:25,520 Speaker 1: Since I just we should do the whole podcast re 795 00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:29,560 Speaker 1: Mark just talks about av C North. It's very confusing 796 00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:31,840 Speaker 1: for maybe three and a half to four. Yeah, the 797 00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:35,680 Speaker 1: Bengals at least are giving Mark Joy, so they've they've 798 00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:38,760 Speaker 1: got that. It's very confusing to me that there multiple 799 00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:42,000 Speaker 1: reports come out, you know, from rap sheet from ESPN 800 00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:44,239 Speaker 1: that Marvin Lewis is leaving at the end of the season. Well, 801 00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:48,400 Speaker 1: Marvin Lewis is an idiot, including one where Ian talks 802 00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:53,040 Speaker 1: about speaking with Marvin Lewis. Okay, that's part of his report, 803 00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:57,640 Speaker 1: solid source going after the game ends, Marvin Lewis after 804 00:40:57,680 --> 00:40:59,839 Speaker 1: the game ends, Marvin Lewis says that he hasn't made 805 00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:04,359 Speaker 1: an any decision about his future. That's Sean Payne's move. 806 00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:06,759 Speaker 1: What's going I know, but this is what this time, 807 00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:10,160 Speaker 1: it's really it's official. His contracts over. It's been an 808 00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:13,319 Speaker 1: interesting era. This probably isn't the podcast to talk about it. 809 00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:15,120 Speaker 1: I mean, he did do a lot of good things. 810 00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:17,880 Speaker 1: He's well over five hundred as the coach of the Bengals. 811 00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:21,200 Speaker 1: He raised the titantic Solomon Wilcott's told Dan, Yeah, once 812 00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:23,000 Speaker 1: upon a time on a feature, I can no longer 813 00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:26,399 Speaker 1: talk about their coaches. And since Paul Brown died in nine, 814 00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:30,640 Speaker 1: I believe their coaches outside of Marvin Lewis have a 815 00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:34,160 Speaker 1: two seventy winning percentage, right, that's like Hugh Jackson parents. 816 00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:37,400 Speaker 1: But things always end badly, and this is this is 817 00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:40,280 Speaker 1: kind of a typical bad ending. And the Vikings deserve 818 00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:42,560 Speaker 1: a lot of credit. Not that we're surprised at this point. 819 00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:46,080 Speaker 1: They're so consistent for playing their type of game and 820 00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:49,799 Speaker 1: just hammering them and totally complete dominant showing. Yeah, I 821 00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:51,839 Speaker 1: mean they are gonna get a bye. They are still 822 00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:54,080 Speaker 1: in the mix for a number one seed. They haven't 823 00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:57,960 Speaker 1: officially clinched by but and it's It's funny you just 824 00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:00,719 Speaker 1: cited as an example of badness huge Jackson. He is 825 00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:04,960 Speaker 1: being connected as a potential Marvin Lewis replacement. Uh so 826 00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:07,759 Speaker 1: that that is all. That's a soap opera, musical chair 827 00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:12,960 Speaker 1: soap opera. That will be a fun, entertaining, potentially farcical 828 00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:15,080 Speaker 1: thing to a state of Ohios, like we are not 829 00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:18,160 Speaker 1: really interested in competing for super Bowls between the two 830 00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:22,320 Speaker 1: the Bengals. The Bengal is actually giving up compensation for 831 00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:25,680 Speaker 1: Hugh Jackson is the most the most Bengal thing ever. 832 00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:31,280 Speaker 1: The we should mention Teddy Bridgewater played game threw an interception, 833 00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:35,799 Speaker 1: what an embarrassment deflected off the guy's hands, you know, 834 00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:39,240 Speaker 1: and that he got a ridiculously loud ovation. And the 835 00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:41,920 Speaker 1: Vikings are team of Ato from last year win the 836 00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:43,520 Speaker 1: NFC North. They have they don't have a lot of 837 00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:46,320 Speaker 1: NFC North titles over the last fifteen years. I know 838 00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:47,759 Speaker 1: they had won a couple of years ago, but that 839 00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:49,640 Speaker 1: that's in the achieved you guys see, I just I 840 00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:52,040 Speaker 1: don't know why I thought of this, but D'Angelo Williams 841 00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:55,560 Speaker 1: rant at the Good Morning Football people that they cannot 842 00:42:56,120 --> 00:43:01,400 Speaker 1: um brand Kyle Brandt and our Boys Rego in particular, 843 00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:05,399 Speaker 1: cannot have real football analysis because they never played the game. 844 00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:08,600 Speaker 1: I mean, at best unnecessary. Do you think Kyle Brand 845 00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:14,160 Speaker 1: did play college? Do you think um knowing that D'Angel 846 00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:18,120 Speaker 1: Williams likes our podcast, No, I'm sure he he sees 847 00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:20,120 Speaker 1: us as for you know, maybe what one or two 848 00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:23,560 Speaker 1: of us played Pop Warner roughly a decade or two 849 00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:25,480 Speaker 1: of you know Ago, Sure, I'm sure there's a lot 850 00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:28,880 Speaker 1: of respect. I don't think he knows we exist personally 851 00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:32,919 Speaker 1: or the podcast itself exists, but I you know, i'd 852 00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:37,080 Speaker 1: like to see him. Uh. Compare the analysis of people 853 00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:39,319 Speaker 1: who didn't play football with the analysis of people who 854 00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:42,160 Speaker 1: did play football. Yeah, yeah, it's pretty grim. Actually, plug 855 00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:46,920 Speaker 1: in D'Angelo. Um, let's let's move on. The older running 856 00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:48,839 Speaker 1: back is the shotgun? He dropped the throw in his 857 00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:56,800 Speaker 1: blanked right Monks looks Nick touchdown? How many does this 858 00:43:57,200 --> 00:44:02,480 Speaker 1: playing on scoring touchdown Jacksonville? He scored two? He planned 859 00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:05,640 Speaker 1: while he planned to score, he scored two. Frank Frangie 860 00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:12,719 Speaker 1: w j x L all the frangim uh from Joe 861 00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:16,759 Speaker 1: Blake Bortles through three touchdown passes, two of which went 862 00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:21,040 Speaker 1: to Jaden Mick Mickens. How Manny does he planned to score? 863 00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:24,320 Speaker 1: He scored two, and the Jaguars clinched the playoff spot 864 00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:28,000 Speaker 1: for the first time since two thousand seven, a forty 865 00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:30,880 Speaker 1: five to seven wipe out of the Texans who are 866 00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:35,840 Speaker 1: limping to the finish line. We now welcome in Nick Shook, brains, 867 00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:40,600 Speaker 1: body and analysis. You know who never played the game 868 00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:44,080 Speaker 1: at the professional right, I did not. That was also 869 00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:46,359 Speaker 1: very awkward, that Good morning football exchange. You know who 870 00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:49,239 Speaker 1: scored two touchdowns as well on Sunday for the Jaguars. 871 00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:53,800 Speaker 1: Tommy Bohannon. Oh yeah, Jets draft pick. I believe fullback 872 00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:59,640 Speaker 1: Tommy Bohannon. Who lately? Hey, le we see Tommy. Hey, 873 00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:03,480 Speaker 1: I'm not leaving here until somebody tells me what they've seen. 874 00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:10,600 Speaker 1: Tommy bohan two carries, two yards, two touchdowns. Bang that, 875 00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:13,120 Speaker 1: Tommy Varndell dream game. You find them in the end 876 00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:15,360 Speaker 1: zone is way you find them. That's down, Tommy Bardell. 877 00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:19,640 Speaker 1: This game was all about Blake Boardles, who I'm convinced 878 00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:22,200 Speaker 1: we've been watching a body double for him for the 879 00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:25,360 Speaker 1: last three years and until the beginning of this month, 880 00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:28,160 Speaker 1: plus a couple of games, because he's been on fire 881 00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:33,759 Speaker 1: in Fuego six yards. It's copyrighted by the way in 882 00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:37,120 Speaker 1: Fuego that Patrick, I think you're in trouble. Well, I'm 883 00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:38,680 Speaker 1: gonna have to go talk to the seats. Now, see 884 00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:41,960 Speaker 1: you guys later. H three touchdowns, a passer rating of 885 00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:44,879 Speaker 1: a hundred and forty three point eight. It's a third 886 00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:48,760 Speaker 1: straight game where he's broken a hundred by a significant count, 887 00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:52,960 Speaker 1: and he looks like a quarterback. You know on this podcast. 888 00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:55,440 Speaker 1: I remember you, Dan and I we all agree with 889 00:45:55,480 --> 00:46:02,440 Speaker 1: you braining a finger right face, Yes the truth. Gregg's 890 00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:04,239 Speaker 1: looking at me. I'll skeptical. I remember you Dan and 891 00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:08,560 Speaker 1: us agreeing that that's just my face was going to 892 00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:11,520 Speaker 1: sink them. Yeah, but right now he's playing, still is 893 00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:18,239 Speaker 1: and I'm fooled. Color me fold because you're right. You're 894 00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:21,120 Speaker 1: absolutely right, because he's playing great now. He's peeking at 895 00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:23,080 Speaker 1: the right time. They've won seven of eight as a team, 896 00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:26,200 Speaker 1: the Jaguars. Uh do I do? I still am I 897 00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:28,880 Speaker 1: still my crazy West to still think when the lights 898 00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:31,400 Speaker 1: come on in January, something terrible could happen, And I 899 00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:33,359 Speaker 1: am I holding on to a ghost. At this point, 900 00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:37,040 Speaker 1: he's paid tangible improvement in many different areas, and I 901 00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:41,920 Speaker 1: believe he's the NFL's highest rated passer in December. That said, so, 902 00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:44,600 Speaker 1: I maintain that this team is a front running team 903 00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:47,160 Speaker 1: and let's see what happens when they fall behind. That's 904 00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:50,000 Speaker 1: that's a totally, totally fair point. I do want to 905 00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:52,959 Speaker 1: just say that I've never seen Blake Bortles drop dimes 906 00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:55,960 Speaker 1: as a professional until this week, and he dropped a 907 00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:59,200 Speaker 1: handful of them almost a dollar's worth. Pretty good for 908 00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:00,840 Speaker 1: a guy. It's not a now troll thrower. They have 909 00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:03,239 Speaker 1: a lot of good young wide receivers to all that 910 00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:05,080 Speaker 1: is starting to kind of show a lot of random 911 00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:07,880 Speaker 1: names like Jaden Mickens form a practice squad guy for 912 00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:14,239 Speaker 1: catches sixty one yards healing cole That's that's wild, and 913 00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:17,440 Speaker 1: even dropping dimes he certainly has. The last couple of weeks, 914 00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:20,920 Speaker 1: I feel like people kind of have erased from their 915 00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:24,520 Speaker 1: memory the two thousand fifteen season when Blake Bortles had 916 00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:27,520 Speaker 1: a lot of really good games and finished the season 917 00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:31,920 Speaker 1: as someone everyone believed was the middle of the road starter. 918 00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:35,320 Speaker 1: Now that's not unbelievable, but that's saying he was better 919 00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:37,319 Speaker 1: than about half of the league, and he had some 920 00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:40,600 Speaker 1: really sensational place So he's always he's had that capable 921 00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:43,799 Speaker 1: if he can be coached up enough and maybe just 922 00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:46,719 Speaker 1: make better decisions. And by the way, his own commitment 923 00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:48,800 Speaker 1: in diligence to the game. Yeah, that was a huge 924 00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:51,279 Speaker 1: part of what people were talking about last offseason was 925 00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:54,359 Speaker 1: that is this a guy that's really committed to the game. 926 00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:56,200 Speaker 1: And I think that we're seeing a different Blake Bortles 927 00:47:56,280 --> 00:47:58,520 Speaker 1: from the neck up. They've they've blown out the Texans 928 00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:03,520 Speaker 1: twice they were in the playoffs. That Steelers lost, though, 929 00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:06,560 Speaker 1: really I don't think it should take the wind out 930 00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:08,520 Speaker 1: of their sales, but they were looking at control of 931 00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:11,680 Speaker 1: the number two seed if the Steelers had held onto that, 932 00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:15,640 Speaker 1: and now they're gonna need some help by an unlikely 933 00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:18,760 Speaker 1: team to to take off the Steelers or the Patriots 934 00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:20,279 Speaker 1: in the next two weeks, where both teams will be 935 00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:22,080 Speaker 1: heavy favorites both weeks. I do want to point out, 936 00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:24,480 Speaker 1: just you know, in defense of the Texans, who are 937 00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:26,600 Speaker 1: not a good football team at this point, that the 938 00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:30,320 Speaker 1: Jaguars happened to avoid playing Deshaun Watson in both games. 939 00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:33,760 Speaker 1: I do wonder what we're waiting for the borders playoff collaps. 940 00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:36,280 Speaker 1: There aren't many good at a f C defenses. Steelers 941 00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:41,160 Speaker 1: defense isn't great anymore. This the Patriots defense certainly isn't great. Uh, 942 00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:43,799 Speaker 1: the Chiefs defense isn't great. So the teams that we 943 00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:45,520 Speaker 1: you know, the Ravens, if they get the teams that 944 00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:47,040 Speaker 1: we know that are in the playoffs, not very good 945 00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:49,239 Speaker 1: defense put them in the Super Bowls. Good point. Let's 946 00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:51,040 Speaker 1: move on and check in with another a f C 947 00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:57,160 Speaker 1: South team. A forty five yard field goal attempts, keep 948 00:48:57,200 --> 00:49:09,279 Speaker 1: going away, the good the buzzer, keep it rolling. Their 949 00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:16,719 Speaker 1: third straight. Well, what did he say, John, I've never 950 00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:19,440 Speaker 1: heard of the general manager getting the first credit at all. 951 00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:21,719 Speaker 1: The general manager got you, Jimmy g So I'm fine 952 00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:24,080 Speaker 1: with it. Well, was he maybe um on the on 953 00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:26,520 Speaker 1: the screen that was Andrew Cattle on a CBS. Well, 954 00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:29,400 Speaker 1: let's maybe that's fair, but I I thought he left 955 00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:31,800 Speaker 1: he left something on the field. Their gold is golden. 956 00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:36,840 Speaker 1: I would have said, winning with pockets, squares and ties. Anyway, 957 00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:39,600 Speaker 1: there you go. After Ryan suck up Drill the fifty 958 00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:42,840 Speaker 1: yard field goal to put the Titoons ahead, Robbie Gold 959 00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:44,879 Speaker 1: answered with a forty five yard of his own as 960 00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:47,880 Speaker 1: time ran out, lifting the forty niners to a twenty 961 00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:52,439 Speaker 1: to nineteen win over Yes, the Tennessee Tytoons. That's three 962 00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:55,120 Speaker 1: straight wins for the Niners and the Jimmy G Era 963 00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:59,080 Speaker 1: Jimmy G Magic. Maybe the Tytoons meanwhile, are suddenly in 964 00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:01,520 Speaker 1: danger of being on the outside looking in when the 965 00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:04,759 Speaker 1: playoffs begin? Is that a bad thing? Mark? Uh Well, 966 00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:08,400 Speaker 1: I think for Titans fans who probably feel disrespected, except 967 00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:11,000 Speaker 1: coming out of this game, you have to say, look 968 00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:13,040 Speaker 1: at you just lost to a team that just won 969 00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:15,319 Speaker 1: its fourth game of the year. But it's a completely 970 00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:18,319 Speaker 1: different Niners team with Jimmy G at the helm. At 971 00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:20,880 Speaker 1: what happened to the quarterbacks getting sacked ten times a 972 00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:23,479 Speaker 1: game in San Francisco, Not with Jimmy G moving around 973 00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:25,680 Speaker 1: the way he does. He took the lead twice in 974 00:50:25,719 --> 00:50:28,240 Speaker 1: the fourth quarter and that last field goal, game winning 975 00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:31,719 Speaker 1: field goal March It started with Jimmy G pristine ly 976 00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:34,759 Speaker 1: pegging three wide receivers, moving that just like Brady did 977 00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:39,080 Speaker 1: against Pittsburgh, moving the team in adequate time downfield in 978 00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:42,399 Speaker 1: perfect position for the game winning field goal he threw 979 00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:45,520 Speaker 1: for three hundred and eighty one yards. Mariotta was not 980 00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:47,680 Speaker 1: the problem in the second half of this game. There's 981 00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:50,120 Speaker 1: nothing around Mariota. He did what he could, but they 982 00:50:50,120 --> 00:50:52,960 Speaker 1: could not. This defense, this Dick Libo defense, could not 983 00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:57,080 Speaker 1: stop Jimmy Garoppolo. And Jimmy Garoppolo has less around him 984 00:50:57,320 --> 00:51:00,520 Speaker 1: than Marcus Mariota does, so no excuse for the Titan. 985 00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:03,000 Speaker 1: Garopolo has less around him than just about any quarterback 986 00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:06,200 Speaker 1: in the NFL. He creates and suddenly guys like Garrett 987 00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:09,719 Speaker 1: Selleck and George Kettle and Kettle whatever. George Kittle looks 988 00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:14,120 Speaker 1: freaking amazing. All these dudes that were little complete fantasy 989 00:51:14,239 --> 00:51:17,600 Speaker 1: dead weight for the entire season have come to life 990 00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:20,040 Speaker 1: with Jimmy G under center. And you know what, I'm 991 00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:22,760 Speaker 1: gonna keep trying to lock him up, not confirming that tonight, 992 00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:25,000 Speaker 1: I'm gonna look at the entire schedule. They got me 993 00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:28,360 Speaker 1: two locks. I couldn't be more happy. Are Reddit boards 994 00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:31,240 Speaker 1: signed up for Jimmy G tonight. They know what they're doing. 995 00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:35,399 Speaker 1: That's coming right down to the did this week. They're 996 00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:41,640 Speaker 1: learning the Jets, they're learning I'm a George Kittle guy. 997 00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:45,839 Speaker 1: He's huge, Taylor. I like that the rest of the 998 00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:48,719 Speaker 1: country is watching the biggest a f C game of 999 00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:50,759 Speaker 1: the year. We've been talking about it all season. A 1000 00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:52,279 Speaker 1: lot of people have a kind of an eye on, 1001 00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:55,000 Speaker 1: you know, an NFC West change into the guards. But 1002 00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:57,719 Speaker 1: Sessler's over in the corner and he's locked into the 1003 00:51:57,760 --> 00:52:01,399 Speaker 1: team of sestl the San Francisco forty Niners. Yes, I am, 1004 00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:05,560 Speaker 1: I am. Let's move on Cousin center center on second 1005 00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:07,839 Speaker 1: and tent fakes the reverse under heat. It's a little 1006 00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:10,480 Speaker 1: scree past the bits. He's got blotchers with the thirty 1007 00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:13,640 Speaker 1: twenty up the right sidelock tad into the end soole. 1008 00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:17,680 Speaker 1: Then it's our Redskins touchdown to free boots. Takes it 1009 00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:21,160 Speaker 1: all the way. Larry Michael W. T. E. M. Sounded 1010 00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:24,360 Speaker 1: a lot like Patrick claiban. Uh. It was the only 1011 00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:27,759 Speaker 1: game in Week fifteen with no playoff ramifications, and the 1012 00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:30,360 Speaker 1: two teams played like it. Kirk Cousins through for d 1013 00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:33,600 Speaker 1: ninety six yards and two touchdowns, and the Redskins Redskins 1014 00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:37,920 Speaker 1: held on for a fifteen win over the Cardinals in Landover, 1015 00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:41,440 Speaker 1: Um shook. Let's really dig into this one. Yeah, was 1016 00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:45,120 Speaker 1: there anything to take out of this game? Let's be quicker? Uh? Actually, okay, 1017 00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:47,440 Speaker 1: fun fact, did you know that before it was called Landover? 1018 00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:51,880 Speaker 1: It was an unincorporated territory called ral John ral John. 1019 00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:54,160 Speaker 1: Jack Kent Cook named it after a combination of his 1020 00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:56,920 Speaker 1: two kids names. Anyway, it's it was like a evil 1021 00:52:56,960 --> 00:53:00,640 Speaker 1: corporation name in the Bad Dog Food. But what was 1022 00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:05,800 Speaker 1: it again, Ralph John John? Uh, they sell like industrial wire, 1023 00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:11,359 Speaker 1: Ralph and John textiles, those kind of things. Sixteen forty 1024 00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:13,560 Speaker 1: one from Blaine Gabbert. The three different times there in 1025 00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:15,760 Speaker 1: the red zone, couldn't get in the end zone, settled 1026 00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:19,200 Speaker 1: for field goals all day, including the final possession. It 1027 00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:24,839 Speaker 1: was a just a symphony of of just errors and 1028 00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:28,200 Speaker 1: and I just I felt pain for the Cardinals in 1029 00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:30,960 Speaker 1: their future because you know, we spent a little bit 1030 00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:32,920 Speaker 1: of time and being like, hey, maybe Blaine Gabbert might 1031 00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:37,040 Speaker 1: be the guy. No, it's not. I felt some sympathy pains, uh, 1032 00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:39,759 Speaker 1: that we assigned this game to you, Chook. We love 1033 00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:42,160 Speaker 1: having you on here. But sometimes when you're the new 1034 00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:44,560 Speaker 1: kid in town, you have to take take one for 1035 00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:46,759 Speaker 1: the team. So that's what happened. Listen, I watched you. 1036 00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:49,879 Speaker 1: I know, we just talked about Niners. I'm I'm growing 1037 00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:51,959 Speaker 1: up Browns fan, and I watched a lot of forty 1038 00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:54,840 Speaker 1: Niners games in the last few years. So it's okay, 1039 00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:57,200 Speaker 1: this this was not that bad. But this was a 1040 00:53:57,200 --> 00:54:00,080 Speaker 1: really ugly game. Uh, I think Cabri bibs. What we 1041 00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:01,879 Speaker 1: heard was about the only highlights for the whole day. Okay, 1042 00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:05,160 Speaker 1: are you going to get a pumpet? Yeah, of course 1043 00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:09,239 Speaker 1: it's a little late, but time to grinde. Why not 1044 00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:11,799 Speaker 1: go Sunday morning before the games? Why do you wait 1045 00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:13,399 Speaker 1: to go? Do you know we didn't do that? Oh? 1046 00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:15,520 Speaker 1: Do you go twice and let your muscles? You're just 1047 00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:17,680 Speaker 1: saying that you're going, you know, because you want to 1048 00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:20,719 Speaker 1: hear this drop. Yeah, well here's the thing. Why don't 1049 00:54:20,719 --> 00:54:22,560 Speaker 1: Why don't we just come in when I come in place? 1050 00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:25,040 Speaker 1: Is that too much? You want play music? No? I 1051 00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:27,360 Speaker 1: don't want to play All right, there you shook um 1052 00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:29,919 Speaker 1: until next week, buddy. All right, thanks guys. That game 1053 00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:32,080 Speaker 1: will not be watched on game Pass this week. It's 1054 00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:34,640 Speaker 1: impossible to evaluate either of those teams with how many 1055 00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:36,480 Speaker 1: injuries this West and I were talking about. You know, 1056 00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:40,600 Speaker 1: teams you can start to put into a nice little 1057 00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:42,839 Speaker 1: sack and put them in a river. There they go. 1058 00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:48,400 Speaker 1: It's you would be to sack. That's like what they 1059 00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:51,680 Speaker 1: do with like kittens. Sometimes is that something does happen. 1060 00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:55,439 Speaker 1: It's like if kidnens deserve our, our attention and care, 1061 00:54:55,520 --> 00:54:57,359 Speaker 1: not these teams. I get it. I get it. It's 1062 00:54:57,360 --> 00:54:59,440 Speaker 1: like if you want to kill someone and make it 1063 00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:05,440 Speaker 1: a special cruel. Exactly, let's move cat. The Eagles stop 1064 00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:10,320 Speaker 1: the Giants right here, Manning Texas slap. He's back, he's looking, 1065 00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:13,320 Speaker 1: he is firing, and it just ain't complete that it 1066 00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:16,760 Speaker 1: is out of the episode and complete and tendent. Fang 1067 00:55:16,880 --> 00:55:21,239 Speaker 1: Rol what forty three suckers and that's a rap, boys 1068 00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:24,320 Speaker 1: and girls. The Giants top three time outs, Mike, so 1069 00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:28,759 Speaker 1: it looks a little short of a run. Carroll comes 1070 00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:31,120 Speaker 1: after my quick quicken a big spot. W I p 1071 00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:33,919 Speaker 1: with the call. Maybe the Eagles do have a chance 1072 00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:36,800 Speaker 1: with that, Carson Wentz. Nick Foles stepped into the starting 1073 00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:39,960 Speaker 1: lineup and threw four touchdown passes and the Philly defense 1074 00:55:40,040 --> 00:55:42,120 Speaker 1: got that fourth down stop to hold off the Giants, 1075 00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:44,920 Speaker 1: a thirty four to twenty nine win for the Eaggles 1076 00:55:45,040 --> 00:55:48,760 Speaker 1: at the meadow Lands Mark. The half glass full viewpoint 1077 00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:51,320 Speaker 1: here is that Nick Foles moved the football put points 1078 00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:53,800 Speaker 1: on the board. Uh. The half glass empty is that 1079 00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:56,759 Speaker 1: the Eagles defense got carved up by Eli How do 1080 00:55:56,800 --> 00:55:59,279 Speaker 1: you view it? Yeah, I think that's pretty accurate. I mean, 1081 00:55:59,320 --> 00:56:02,440 Speaker 1: you think that would come out of this saying that 1082 00:56:02,520 --> 00:56:04,480 Speaker 1: the Eagles had lost. Oh well, Nick Foles will be 1083 00:56:04,520 --> 00:56:06,520 Speaker 1: the reason. Nick Foles was fine. He if he doesn't 1084 00:56:06,560 --> 00:56:09,040 Speaker 1: turn the ball over. What they had. What happened today, 1085 00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:10,960 Speaker 1: They got it done on offense. I mean it did 1086 00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:13,320 Speaker 1: not look like what we saw under Carson Wentz. Is 1087 00:56:13,320 --> 00:56:16,080 Speaker 1: a little bit of a different operation. But who expected 1088 00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:19,200 Speaker 1: Eli Manning to carve up what is a very good 1089 00:56:19,239 --> 00:56:22,680 Speaker 1: defense for four hundred and thirty four yards and three touchdowns. 1090 00:56:23,200 --> 00:56:26,480 Speaker 1: It was a big difference having sturdy Shepherd back in 1091 00:56:26,560 --> 00:56:29,200 Speaker 1: this lineup, and he made Evan Ingram is a star. 1092 00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:32,360 Speaker 1: He is an absolutely fascinating tight end. We've known that 1093 00:56:32,440 --> 00:56:35,080 Speaker 1: for weeks. But guys like Roger Lewis, ta Varus King, 1094 00:56:35,160 --> 00:56:37,960 Speaker 1: they were all making plays against the secondary. This is 1095 00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:41,680 Speaker 1: a game where you want to point to the kicking changes. 1096 00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:45,160 Speaker 1: What the the less effective kicking having a direct impact 1097 00:56:45,320 --> 00:56:47,359 Speaker 1: on away teams have to deal with the fourth quarter. 1098 00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:51,839 Speaker 1: Aldrick Rosas misses a field goal in an extra point 1099 00:56:51,880 --> 00:56:54,239 Speaker 1: In this they were driving down at the very end 1100 00:56:54,280 --> 00:56:56,279 Speaker 1: and Eli Manning had to go for a touchdown. You 1101 00:56:56,400 --> 00:56:58,640 Speaker 1: lost this game by five points. They could have easily 1102 00:56:58,719 --> 00:57:00,719 Speaker 1: kicked a field goal and they would have knocked off 1103 00:57:00,719 --> 00:57:03,319 Speaker 1: the Eagles. We'd be saying something different about Philadelphia right now. 1104 00:57:04,040 --> 00:57:06,480 Speaker 1: The Giants will say this, they they showed, they showed 1105 00:57:06,680 --> 00:57:10,560 Speaker 1: zero quit today. I mean it's well because I think 1106 00:57:10,600 --> 00:57:12,560 Speaker 1: we're kind of you know, Dan, you and I are 1107 00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:17,160 Speaker 1: into the man. But I mean, Eli Manning made it 1108 00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:20,360 Speaker 1: fun today, and it's like they the Eagles. I still 1109 00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:21,960 Speaker 1: think they're gonna get the number one by I think 1110 00:57:21,960 --> 00:57:23,720 Speaker 1: they can win a playoff game. They could win two 1111 00:57:24,240 --> 00:57:26,160 Speaker 1: if you get this Nick Foles, he's not going to 1112 00:57:26,320 --> 00:57:28,320 Speaker 1: change the game like Wence does, but he did not 1113 00:57:28,880 --> 00:57:30,160 Speaker 1: hurt them at all. And this is kind of like 1114 00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:32,000 Speaker 1: a best case scenario. I haven't watched the game, but 1115 00:57:32,080 --> 00:57:33,800 Speaker 1: it's bad defense he was playing. Yeah, I'd like to 1116 00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:36,920 Speaker 1: see how he actually played, but statistically, I mean, what 1117 00:57:37,040 --> 00:57:41,120 Speaker 1: else could you ask for? And a guy five five 1118 00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:45,280 Speaker 1: D and four yards from the Giants against this Eagles 1119 00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:50,200 Speaker 1: defense is one of the more inexplicable and surprising results 1120 00:57:50,240 --> 00:57:53,400 Speaker 1: I've seen chalked up to like division rivals. Maybe I 1121 00:57:53,440 --> 00:57:56,480 Speaker 1: guess we'll watch the Eagles next week. It's a concerning 1122 00:57:56,760 --> 00:57:58,960 Speaker 1: game if you're the Eagles defense, because you need the 1123 00:57:59,000 --> 00:58:01,240 Speaker 1: Eagles defense to how up carry this? Yeah, they gotta 1124 00:58:01,280 --> 00:58:03,760 Speaker 1: go next level instead, they took a step back this week. 1125 00:58:03,840 --> 00:58:06,320 Speaker 1: Let's see how they look. Who they got next week? 1126 00:58:06,640 --> 00:58:10,400 Speaker 1: Oakland and Dallas. Okay, manageable, Let's move on. They've got 1127 00:58:10,440 --> 00:58:13,040 Speaker 1: there by J. Cutler and ready to go the snap. 1128 00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:16,160 Speaker 1: Bills rushed for stocks up front, Cutler gets rid of it, 1129 00:58:16,240 --> 00:58:19,480 Speaker 1: fires town Field picked off, intercepted at the forty five 1130 00:58:19,520 --> 00:58:22,440 Speaker 1: yard line, picked off by T. White. This time he 1131 00:58:22,520 --> 00:58:26,400 Speaker 1: slides down and this one will end it. John Murphy 1132 00:58:26,560 --> 00:58:28,760 Speaker 1: w g R with the call. The J. Cutler Field 1133 00:58:28,800 --> 00:58:32,000 Speaker 1: good story reached its anticipated conclusion on Sunday, as the 1134 00:58:32,080 --> 00:58:35,439 Speaker 1: veteran through three interceptions, including the killer game deciding pick 1135 00:58:35,920 --> 00:58:39,200 Speaker 1: right after Miami had recovered an onside kick late in 1136 00:58:39,240 --> 00:58:41,560 Speaker 1: the fourth quarter, allowing the Bills to hold on for 1137 00:58:41,680 --> 00:58:45,800 Speaker 1: a twenty four to sixteen win. Uh in Buffalo, greg 1138 00:58:46,080 --> 00:58:48,360 Speaker 1: The Bills are suddenly eight and six and in line 1139 00:58:48,400 --> 00:58:50,240 Speaker 1: for a playoff spot in the a f C. And 1140 00:58:50,320 --> 00:58:53,720 Speaker 1: as everyone should know, that has not happened in eighteen years. Well, 1141 00:58:53,720 --> 00:58:55,720 Speaker 1: they have to go to New England next week and 1142 00:58:55,880 --> 00:58:58,560 Speaker 1: that'll be, you know, a big, big game for them, 1143 00:58:58,600 --> 00:59:00,200 Speaker 1: and if they fall, they're eight and seven and they 1144 00:59:00,240 --> 00:59:02,680 Speaker 1: lose a little bit of control. This to me was 1145 00:59:02,800 --> 00:59:05,440 Speaker 1: more the the end of whatever hope there was about 1146 00:59:05,480 --> 00:59:08,200 Speaker 1: the Miami Dolphins, and it felt it felt kind of 1147 00:59:08,240 --> 00:59:12,480 Speaker 1: typically felt fitting that the two thousand seventeen Dolphins ended 1148 00:59:12,960 --> 00:59:16,920 Speaker 1: on a j Cutler just throw to nowhere, like they 1149 00:59:17,040 --> 00:59:20,040 Speaker 1: had the on side kick. He was getting pressured and 1150 00:59:20,120 --> 00:59:22,360 Speaker 1: he just threw it up right to trade Avious White. 1151 00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:25,400 Speaker 1: There's no defender in the area. And that was the 1152 00:59:25,480 --> 00:59:27,920 Speaker 1: day for Jay. Cutler was just kind of throwing it 1153 00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:31,680 Speaker 1: up inexplicably and receivers not being anywhere near the ball. 1154 00:59:31,920 --> 00:59:35,280 Speaker 1: Jay makes a throat to nowhere. He's throwing the ball 1155 00:59:35,360 --> 00:59:41,280 Speaker 1: forty times today. He on the roadwhere here three interceptions. 1156 00:59:41,680 --> 00:59:43,960 Speaker 1: They were all of the like the ugly variety, none 1157 00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:46,640 Speaker 1: of the you know variety. They weren't like, oh, that 1158 00:59:46,760 --> 00:59:49,040 Speaker 1: wasn't his faught like they were his fault. He also 1159 00:59:49,080 --> 00:59:51,200 Speaker 1: fumbled the ball four times today. That's a lot of 1160 00:59:51,280 --> 00:59:53,640 Speaker 1: fumbles he got. He got them all back amazingly. A 1161 00:59:53,680 --> 00:59:59,320 Speaker 1: couple were on the snap Sanchez, this guy, it was 1162 00:59:59,480 --> 01:00:03,800 Speaker 1: rough and the Bills should get credit um for coming 1163 01:00:03,840 --> 01:00:07,400 Speaker 1: out really playing sharp, good game plan in terms of 1164 01:00:07,440 --> 01:00:10,560 Speaker 1: their offense. Tyrod Taylor was, you're kind of doing the 1165 01:00:10,600 --> 01:00:13,400 Speaker 1: Tyrod Taylor things that you love to see, evading sacks 1166 01:00:13,680 --> 01:00:16,680 Speaker 1: and picking up thirdin longs and improvising and also some 1167 01:00:16,800 --> 01:00:18,960 Speaker 1: schemed up plays. And when they do that, they look 1168 01:00:19,080 --> 01:00:20,520 Speaker 1: they look like an eight and eight team. But that's 1169 01:00:20,600 --> 01:00:22,720 Speaker 1: kind of what they've looked like all season. I mean, 1170 01:00:23,120 --> 01:00:25,439 Speaker 1: we were talking about it downstairs, right, do you really 1171 01:00:25,480 --> 01:00:28,080 Speaker 1: want to see this Bill's team in the playoffs? But 1172 01:00:28,160 --> 01:00:29,680 Speaker 1: then the flip side is, well, do you want to 1173 01:00:29,680 --> 01:00:31,960 Speaker 1: see the Titoons in the playoffs? At least if you 1174 01:00:32,040 --> 01:00:34,360 Speaker 1: got the Bills in there, you get that all those 1175 01:00:34,400 --> 01:00:36,360 Speaker 1: fans get that that feeling that we you know, we 1176 01:00:36,520 --> 01:00:38,400 Speaker 1: we finally ended that drought. It's a step in the 1177 01:00:38,520 --> 01:00:41,040 Speaker 1: right direction. But yeah, this does feel like a team 1178 01:00:41,120 --> 01:00:43,640 Speaker 1: that's just gonna beat bad teams like the Dolphins. With 1179 01:00:43,720 --> 01:00:45,600 Speaker 1: Jay Cutler on the road. By the way, they're gonna 1180 01:00:45,640 --> 01:00:47,440 Speaker 1: have a big win. They have the tiebreaker over the 1181 01:00:47,520 --> 01:00:50,800 Speaker 1: Ravens right now. Yeah, but that's very misleading because once 1182 01:00:50,880 --> 01:00:52,880 Speaker 1: the season plays out, the Ravens will have a better 1183 01:00:52,960 --> 01:00:55,800 Speaker 1: record than the Bills all competitions. How about West with 1184 01:00:55,880 --> 01:01:00,360 Speaker 1: the calculatory as also, the Ravens played two Cup and 1185 01:01:00,440 --> 01:01:02,040 Speaker 1: the season and the Bills have to go on the 1186 01:01:02,160 --> 01:01:05,800 Speaker 1: road at New England and at Miami, so I don't 1187 01:01:05,800 --> 01:01:08,280 Speaker 1: have to plug in with a modem No fifty sex Gay, 1188 01:01:08,600 --> 01:01:11,880 Speaker 1: give me a little shorthand division and I'll handle everything. 1189 01:01:11,920 --> 01:01:13,880 Speaker 1: I would like it for the Bills fan base more 1190 01:01:13,920 --> 01:01:16,480 Speaker 1: than most other fan base. It wouldn't be a home game, 1191 01:01:16,560 --> 01:01:18,160 Speaker 1: but it's still still would be fun to watch with 1192 01:01:18,240 --> 01:01:22,120 Speaker 1: that wild cornfield in a FC is wide open. It's wild, 1193 01:01:22,800 --> 01:01:25,680 Speaker 1: wild and wide open. Kill me. Speaking of the Ravens, 1194 01:01:26,560 --> 01:01:29,120 Speaker 1: Sean Kaiser fans in the end zone in the shotgun 1195 01:01:29,320 --> 01:01:31,800 Speaker 1: thanks the snap looks to his right, pumps wants hit 1196 01:01:32,000 --> 01:01:34,840 Speaker 1: me high Bathers lost in the end zone. It's recovered. 1197 01:01:34,880 --> 01:01:38,000 Speaker 1: He's gonna be either a safety or touchdown. Touchdown Ravens 1198 01:01:38,240 --> 01:01:40,480 Speaker 1: and the defense takes care of it as Brandy and 1199 01:01:40,560 --> 01:01:44,480 Speaker 1: Williams comes up with a touchdown. All right, of course, 1200 01:01:46,040 --> 01:01:48,720 Speaker 1: Boo birds out in Cleveland. Jerry Sandusky w b A 1201 01:01:48,920 --> 01:01:51,760 Speaker 1: L with the call. The Ravens defense was expected to 1202 01:01:51,800 --> 01:01:55,200 Speaker 1: be disruptive on Sunday, and they were causing turnovers, including 1203 01:01:55,280 --> 01:01:58,480 Speaker 1: that touchdown a seven to ten win over the Browns. 1204 01:01:58,840 --> 01:02:00,800 Speaker 1: When it was all said and done, the Browns now 1205 01:02:00,920 --> 01:02:03,520 Speaker 1: just two losses away from becoming the second oh and 1206 01:02:03,600 --> 01:02:07,520 Speaker 1: sixteen team in NFL history. The Ravens, meanwhile, moved to 1207 01:02:07,640 --> 01:02:09,919 Speaker 1: eight and six, just like the Bills, and they remain 1208 01:02:10,040 --> 01:02:12,880 Speaker 1: in good position, just like West said, to grab a 1209 01:02:13,000 --> 01:02:16,400 Speaker 1: wild card spot. I would be stunned if the Ravens 1210 01:02:16,800 --> 01:02:19,280 Speaker 1: find a way to lose those two games coming up, 1211 01:02:19,320 --> 01:02:23,960 Speaker 1: because I think they're last doing a little Jordan's three 1212 01:02:24,040 --> 01:02:26,640 Speaker 1: more saying would just come in my way. Yeah, I 1213 01:02:27,360 --> 01:02:29,400 Speaker 1: think I think you're in good shape and that The 1214 01:02:29,480 --> 01:02:31,720 Speaker 1: main thing I was watching today was is the Joe 1215 01:02:31,840 --> 01:02:37,760 Speaker 1: Flacco revival too? You know, respectability to just being solid? 1216 01:02:37,960 --> 01:02:39,680 Speaker 1: Is that like a is that a thing now? Because 1217 01:02:39,680 --> 01:02:41,960 Speaker 1: it had been two weeks it wasn't great against Pittsburgh 1218 01:02:42,200 --> 01:02:44,240 Speaker 1: was good, and now we can say it's three weeks 1219 01:02:44,320 --> 01:02:46,840 Speaker 1: like they were bad throws. There were Joe Flacco moments, 1220 01:02:46,880 --> 01:02:50,160 Speaker 1: some sacks, but there were also those wow, like not 1221 01:02:50,320 --> 01:02:52,800 Speaker 1: a lot of quarterbacks can complete those those throws three 1222 01:02:52,880 --> 01:02:56,640 Speaker 1: or four or five really nice downfield or under pressure. 1223 01:02:56,720 --> 01:02:59,840 Speaker 1: And this is despite losing Jeremy Macklin. They asked him 1224 01:02:59,880 --> 01:03:01,840 Speaker 1: to win the game because they were stuffing the run 1225 01:03:01,920 --> 01:03:04,960 Speaker 1: and gave me through at forty two times. It wasn't great. 1226 01:03:05,000 --> 01:03:06,840 Speaker 1: But if he's just okay, then I think they have 1227 01:03:06,920 --> 01:03:10,160 Speaker 1: a chance to beat just about anyone care a business. 1228 01:03:10,880 --> 01:03:13,400 Speaker 1: I think Cleveland goes Owen sixteen because the only shot 1229 01:03:13,480 --> 01:03:15,080 Speaker 1: that I think you maybe had, and I don't even 1230 01:03:15,120 --> 01:03:16,800 Speaker 1: consider it a shot if you don't beat the Bears, 1231 01:03:17,280 --> 01:03:21,200 Speaker 1: is Pittsburgh sitting like twenty five starters, had they wrapped up. 1232 01:03:21,280 --> 01:03:23,760 Speaker 1: Some sort of is gonna happen there. You're looking at 1233 01:03:23,800 --> 01:03:25,200 Speaker 1: o in sixteen. I don't know how you keep the 1234 01:03:25,200 --> 01:03:27,360 Speaker 1: coach when that happens. And Deshaun Kaiser, who's I think 1235 01:03:27,440 --> 01:03:31,000 Speaker 1: taken a couple of steps forward recently in what's been 1236 01:03:31,040 --> 01:03:33,120 Speaker 1: typical for a season, took a took a step back 1237 01:03:33,160 --> 01:03:37,360 Speaker 1: today another red zone interception, missed somethings just in he's 1238 01:03:37,400 --> 01:03:39,240 Speaker 1: not gonna be the quarterback next year now, John Dorris, 1239 01:03:39,280 --> 01:03:41,680 Speaker 1: he's already handing out projects for for guys to select 1240 01:03:41,720 --> 01:03:44,440 Speaker 1: the next quarterback. Then, Um, I just wanted to I 1241 01:03:44,520 --> 01:03:46,400 Speaker 1: just wanted to check in on the four teams. I 1242 01:03:46,400 --> 01:03:49,200 Speaker 1: asked lindsay earlier today, Hey, can we just get a 1243 01:03:49,240 --> 01:03:51,360 Speaker 1: print out of all the teams that have been forked? 1244 01:03:51,920 --> 01:03:54,080 Speaker 1: Just so I could reference it in the studio? And 1245 01:03:54,160 --> 01:03:56,080 Speaker 1: I say, oh, can I have that on our as 1246 01:03:56,120 --> 01:03:58,880 Speaker 1: the messenger client, She says, it's hanging up. Look around. 1247 01:03:58,960 --> 01:04:01,240 Speaker 1: I can't find it. You wanted to print it out? 1248 01:04:01,400 --> 01:04:03,919 Speaker 1: Hanging up in the studio, literally hanging in the back 1249 01:04:04,000 --> 01:04:08,880 Speaker 1: corner of our studio back there. You can see it 1250 01:04:08,960 --> 01:04:10,840 Speaker 1: from where you're sitting. It's I can't see it. And 1251 01:04:10,880 --> 01:04:13,400 Speaker 1: I have a really good vis I will give you 1252 01:04:13,640 --> 01:04:15,600 Speaker 1: a hundred dollars if you could read that from where 1253 01:04:15,640 --> 01:04:18,000 Speaker 1: I'm sitting where over thirty five years old, we have 1254 01:04:18,080 --> 01:04:21,040 Speaker 1: pressed by apia. I mean, my eyes are good now, 1255 01:04:21,080 --> 01:04:25,200 Speaker 1: I have a great vision, but it's that's in the dark, 1256 01:04:25,520 --> 01:04:27,800 Speaker 1: all right. Here are the four teams, just to check 1257 01:04:27,880 --> 01:04:29,760 Speaker 1: in now late in the season. Are we in danger 1258 01:04:29,840 --> 01:04:32,920 Speaker 1: with any of them? Browns? I think we're safe there. 1259 01:04:33,040 --> 01:04:42,480 Speaker 1: Forty Niners, Giants, Cults, Bucks, Bears, Texans, Ben Gals, Broncos, Packers. 1260 01:04:43,520 --> 01:04:48,880 Speaker 1: That was the team that kind of Dolphins, the Gang 1261 01:04:48,920 --> 01:04:53,360 Speaker 1: Green that's the Jets. The Bills forked? Do we I 1262 01:04:53,400 --> 01:04:55,600 Speaker 1: don't remember forking the Bills. We forked the Bills, guys. 1263 01:04:55,720 --> 01:04:59,120 Speaker 1: I still feel fine about that. Raiders and the Redskins. 1264 01:04:59,160 --> 01:05:02,120 Speaker 1: It's it's really out of the bills. The Bills and 1265 01:05:02,240 --> 01:05:05,000 Speaker 1: the Packers would need a ton of help, a ton 1266 01:05:05,080 --> 01:05:08,120 Speaker 1: of help. I'd be fine that one, especially since has 1267 01:05:08,120 --> 01:05:12,120 Speaker 1: already been kind of forced into making the donation to 1268 01:05:12,200 --> 01:05:14,560 Speaker 1: the bum She'll be yeah, she'll be paying Western New 1269 01:05:14,680 --> 01:05:17,840 Speaker 1: York whatever is. Do check in with one last Saturday game. 1270 01:05:20,440 --> 01:05:27,160 Speaker 1: Throws over the Metal touchdown in Ford, touched out of 1271 01:05:27,240 --> 01:05:30,040 Speaker 1: the season, Free Broad and Detroit has opened up a 1272 01:05:30,240 --> 01:05:32,960 Speaker 1: nine scene to three lead you No, I like Lindsay. 1273 01:05:33,880 --> 01:05:38,360 Speaker 1: She's got some pet down, a little you know, loose cannon, 1274 01:05:39,000 --> 01:05:41,480 Speaker 1: loose cannon. She's really got, you know, a little like 1275 01:05:41,920 --> 01:05:44,480 Speaker 1: edge to her. The Full Time does too. You don't 1276 01:05:44,520 --> 01:05:47,880 Speaker 1: mess with the full Ti. Remember that movie, Don't mess 1277 01:05:48,000 --> 01:05:52,640 Speaker 1: with You don't mess with the Zoltan. You don't mess 1278 01:05:52,680 --> 01:05:55,920 Speaker 1: with the Full Time? Is what I smell a photoshop 1279 01:05:56,040 --> 01:06:00,479 Speaker 1: coming from one of our listeners, Dan Miller, you Jr. 1280 01:06:00,560 --> 01:06:03,200 Speaker 1: What they called Matthew Stafford looked healthy and threw two 1281 01:06:03,280 --> 01:06:07,560 Speaker 1: touchdown passes and leading the Lines to ten victory over 1282 01:06:07,600 --> 01:06:10,400 Speaker 1: the Bears on Saturday and Detroit a perfect game, by 1283 01:06:10,440 --> 01:06:12,960 Speaker 1: the way, And I could attest to this personally. If 1284 01:06:13,240 --> 01:06:17,439 Speaker 1: you're running around and daddy has to take the wife 1285 01:06:17,480 --> 01:06:20,760 Speaker 1: and kids to the mall to see Santa, which was 1286 01:06:20,800 --> 01:06:25,200 Speaker 1: a disaster. My son. Just to recap my son on 1287 01:06:25,400 --> 01:06:30,320 Speaker 1: Thursday at the Big Um Christmas pageant, uh was standing 1288 01:06:30,360 --> 01:06:33,040 Speaker 1: in the front row three years old. My boy Jack 1289 01:06:33,520 --> 01:06:37,160 Speaker 1: did not sing. At one point, covered his eyes and 1290 01:06:38,640 --> 01:06:41,320 Speaker 1: for the For the finality, Jack turns his back to 1291 01:06:41,440 --> 01:06:44,600 Speaker 1: the audience and God in the church. And two days later, 1292 01:06:44,760 --> 01:06:49,040 Speaker 1: my boy decides to become extremely fearful of Santa. Didn't 1293 01:06:49,040 --> 01:06:51,320 Speaker 1: want anything to do with the man in red. Uh. 1294 01:06:51,400 --> 01:06:53,280 Speaker 1: So I'm still figuring out the kids. A little bit 1295 01:06:53,320 --> 01:06:56,480 Speaker 1: of a counter intelligence revolutionary thing going on there. I 1296 01:06:56,520 --> 01:06:59,040 Speaker 1: mean that that's a that's a pretty common reaction though 1297 01:06:59,120 --> 01:07:03,040 Speaker 1: to Santa. On level, Santa's a little scary. Hey go 1298 01:07:03,240 --> 01:07:06,440 Speaker 1: sit on this strange you know, red Man's lap that 1299 01:07:06,520 --> 01:07:09,480 Speaker 1: you've never met before. Concept is odd from a distance. 1300 01:07:09,720 --> 01:07:11,840 Speaker 1: My point being is that I was That was the 1301 01:07:11,920 --> 01:07:14,360 Speaker 1: beginning of my Saturday. I get back on the couch 1302 01:07:14,480 --> 01:07:17,160 Speaker 1: and I'm watching a very boring football game. Perfect time 1303 01:07:17,200 --> 01:07:19,600 Speaker 1: for a nap took a little nap right in the 1304 01:07:19,640 --> 01:07:21,880 Speaker 1: middle of the game. Anyway, the Lions moved to eight 1305 01:07:21,960 --> 01:07:26,240 Speaker 1: and six, and they no doubt eagerly anticipate Monday Night's 1306 01:07:26,920 --> 01:07:29,960 Speaker 1: affair involving the eight and five Falcons. This was a 1307 01:07:30,080 --> 01:07:32,160 Speaker 1: rare game we get on the lines for a lot 1308 01:07:32,240 --> 01:07:34,800 Speaker 1: of things, where they controlled it from front to the beginning. 1309 01:07:34,840 --> 01:07:37,120 Speaker 1: They didn't have to have a comeback. They didn't. You know, 1310 01:07:38,040 --> 01:07:40,919 Speaker 1: I'd like to come back from front to beginning. That's 1311 01:07:41,000 --> 01:07:42,920 Speaker 1: from front to the game. I mean, you can't you 1312 01:07:43,160 --> 01:07:47,360 Speaker 1: you can't get any logger than that. I'm sorry, I 1313 01:07:47,520 --> 01:07:49,520 Speaker 1: was gonna say. I walked away from this game thinking 1314 01:07:50,120 --> 01:07:51,800 Speaker 1: if the lines were in the a f C, they'd 1315 01:07:51,840 --> 01:07:54,400 Speaker 1: be a playoff team. They might be a playoff team 1316 01:07:54,600 --> 01:07:58,400 Speaker 1: if they play the Packers, for instance, without Aaron Rodgers, 1317 01:07:58,520 --> 01:08:02,880 Speaker 1: which seems you tabulate increasingly possible. I think you're tabulating, 1318 01:08:02,880 --> 01:08:10,680 Speaker 1: aren't you. They're eight and six. They're at Cincinnati next week. 1319 01:08:13,560 --> 01:08:16,200 Speaker 1: I'm not even sure if Cincinnati will literally show up 1320 01:08:16,240 --> 01:08:17,840 Speaker 1: for the game, put him in a bag and threw 1321 01:08:17,920 --> 01:08:20,800 Speaker 1: him into right. They might. They might just win that 1322 01:08:20,880 --> 01:08:23,200 Speaker 1: by forfeit. That gets him to nine and six. Marvin 1323 01:08:23,320 --> 01:08:25,280 Speaker 1: Lewis holding a dog with some woman that he picked 1324 01:08:25,360 --> 01:08:28,160 Speaker 1: up at the supermarket, watching the bus drive away. And 1325 01:08:28,439 --> 01:08:32,000 Speaker 1: then they're they're hosting Green Bay, who at that point 1326 01:08:32,280 --> 01:08:35,439 Speaker 1: is likely to be eliminated and very possibly is sitting 1327 01:08:35,520 --> 01:08:38,000 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. They've already, the lines have already shown that 1328 01:08:38,160 --> 01:08:40,960 Speaker 1: they can beat Brett Hunley. They did that earlier this 1329 01:08:41,040 --> 01:08:44,040 Speaker 1: season on Monday Night Football. That gets them to ten 1330 01:08:44,160 --> 01:08:47,720 Speaker 1: and six and very possibly with a little little help 1331 01:08:48,000 --> 01:08:50,599 Speaker 1: from the Falcons. I don't think we need the lines 1332 01:08:50,680 --> 01:08:53,320 Speaker 1: to approve they can beat Brett Hunley. Like I'll just 1333 01:08:53,439 --> 01:08:57,880 Speaker 1: believe it on faith, the saying could happen in this 1334 01:08:58,040 --> 01:09:02,040 Speaker 1: deep NFC. The line there's very much alive. Yeah, they 1335 01:09:02,120 --> 01:09:03,960 Speaker 1: did dominate the game. They scored on four their first 1336 01:09:04,000 --> 01:09:08,240 Speaker 1: six drives. Mitch Drabinsky through three interceptions. Actually let Mitch 1337 01:09:08,360 --> 01:09:10,720 Speaker 1: throw the ball. Uh. Darius Slay played a great game. 1338 01:09:10,720 --> 01:09:13,080 Speaker 1: He's probably gonna the problem from front the beginning. He's 1339 01:09:13,120 --> 01:09:15,439 Speaker 1: been a great player ear This Bears team has so 1340 01:09:15,600 --> 01:09:18,120 Speaker 1: much work to do in the offseason if they don't 1341 01:09:18,200 --> 01:09:21,200 Speaker 1: want Mitchell Robinski's career to get vastly off track at 1342 01:09:21,240 --> 01:09:23,680 Speaker 1: some point here, I mean, you've got to You've got 1343 01:09:23,800 --> 01:09:25,200 Speaker 1: to do a lot. I mean this, this is a 1344 01:09:25,280 --> 01:09:28,920 Speaker 1: team that relies on Tariko and basically breaking two returns 1345 01:09:28,960 --> 01:09:30,680 Speaker 1: a game to have a shot. He had a big 1346 01:09:30,760 --> 01:09:34,120 Speaker 1: return called back yesterday in Chicago. Had no chance to 1347 01:09:34,160 --> 01:09:36,240 Speaker 1: win this game when that was when that happened. Um, 1348 01:09:36,400 --> 01:09:38,400 Speaker 1: how bad have the Bear has been under John Fox? 1349 01:09:38,479 --> 01:09:40,519 Speaker 1: They've lost six of seven their four and ten and 1350 01:09:40,600 --> 01:09:43,639 Speaker 1: that is now in three seasons under Fox, double digit 1351 01:09:43,720 --> 01:09:48,880 Speaker 1: losses after um all three years. So Johnny ain't going 1352 01:09:48,960 --> 01:09:51,439 Speaker 1: nowhere but home after the season. I'd like to see 1353 01:09:51,720 --> 01:09:54,639 Speaker 1: Hugh tax and wishes he had John Fox's record, But yeah, 1354 01:09:54,880 --> 01:09:57,639 Speaker 1: I'd like to see Eagles quarterbacks coach John d Filippo, 1355 01:09:57,680 --> 01:10:01,280 Speaker 1: who Mark is familiar with, working with Mitch Robinski next year. 1356 01:10:01,960 --> 01:10:05,759 Speaker 1: I like that John good coach. Let's move on Sunday 1357 01:10:05,800 --> 01:10:13,120 Speaker 1: football Sunday Night. A voids the shack and he's gonna 1358 01:10:13,160 --> 01:10:17,000 Speaker 1: try to run it in. Yeah, that he lose the ball? 1359 01:10:17,680 --> 01:10:19,400 Speaker 1: Is it go out of the end zone? Does he 1360 01:10:19,520 --> 01:10:22,680 Speaker 1: lose the ball? The Cowboys are signaling for a touchback. 1361 01:10:23,000 --> 01:10:25,919 Speaker 1: This could be a touchback to run or fumble forward 1362 01:10:26,520 --> 01:10:28,639 Speaker 1: through the end zone and out of the end zone 1363 01:10:29,520 --> 01:10:34,200 Speaker 1: on the field back. Yes, on a day where the arcane, 1364 01:10:34,400 --> 01:10:37,679 Speaker 1: clunky NFL rule book decided the game of the year. 1365 01:10:38,000 --> 01:10:41,679 Speaker 1: How fitting that Sunday Night Football ended with the dreaded 1366 01:10:41,800 --> 01:10:45,519 Speaker 1: fumble touchback rule. It costs the Raiders their season or 1367 01:10:45,560 --> 01:10:48,680 Speaker 1: whatever was left of it. A seventeen win for the 1368 01:10:48,800 --> 01:10:52,920 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys uh in Sunday Night Football, a game in 1369 01:10:53,040 --> 01:10:58,880 Speaker 1: which yes, Derek Carr, scrambling towards the pylon with less 1370 01:10:58,920 --> 01:11:02,120 Speaker 1: than a minute to play, had the first down, but 1371 01:11:02,280 --> 01:11:05,040 Speaker 1: had the misfortune of losing his grip on the ball. 1372 01:11:05,439 --> 01:11:08,479 Speaker 1: It goes out of bounds, Chris Westling, that's a touchback 1373 01:11:08,840 --> 01:11:13,799 Speaker 1: to Dallas according to the rule book. And the Cowboys 1374 01:11:13,840 --> 01:11:17,519 Speaker 1: are alive in the NFC playoffs and the Raiders are done. Yeah, 1375 01:11:17,680 --> 01:11:20,880 Speaker 1: and did the Raiders drive ended the game, ended their season, 1376 01:11:20,920 --> 01:11:24,080 Speaker 1: and put their fans out of their misery season long 1377 01:11:24,240 --> 01:11:27,880 Speaker 1: misery watching this band football team, one of the most 1378 01:11:27,920 --> 01:11:32,160 Speaker 1: disappointing teams in the NFL and the most disappointing division. Yeah, 1379 01:11:32,240 --> 01:11:36,000 Speaker 1: it was it kind of I don't know what the 1380 01:11:36,040 --> 01:11:40,200 Speaker 1: word anticlimactic that the Marshawn Lynch returned to Oakland like 1381 01:11:40,400 --> 01:11:45,599 Speaker 1: feel good story all but ended tonight with him losing 1382 01:11:45,680 --> 01:11:48,639 Speaker 1: it on the sidelines yelling at the officials, I guess 1383 01:11:48,720 --> 01:11:51,960 Speaker 1: for that call, but it was undeniably the correct call. 1384 01:11:52,400 --> 01:11:54,920 Speaker 1: You know, everybody calmed down a little bout this. Marshawn 1385 01:11:55,000 --> 01:11:57,479 Speaker 1: Lynch is amazing thing. I mean, what is he? What 1386 01:11:57,560 --> 01:11:59,160 Speaker 1: are you doing? What is the great running back? Yeah, 1387 01:11:59,200 --> 01:12:01,799 Speaker 1: he's a great running back, but this like amazing, man, angle, 1388 01:12:01,880 --> 01:12:06,800 Speaker 1: what are you doing? In perfectly called playing right? Not 1389 01:12:06,960 --> 01:12:11,240 Speaker 1: precious to me anyway, the the call was correct. The rule, 1390 01:12:11,680 --> 01:12:15,840 Speaker 1: much like the catch rule, is not is complicated, but 1391 01:12:15,960 --> 01:12:18,400 Speaker 1: it's poor. I think they need to put the touch 1392 01:12:18,479 --> 01:12:22,240 Speaker 1: back back to the twenty yard line. You keep possession, 1393 01:12:22,640 --> 01:12:25,400 Speaker 1: but your your way back up. It's like a touchback, 1394 01:12:25,479 --> 01:12:28,040 Speaker 1: except you keep the ball, you don't lose possession. Fumbling 1395 01:12:28,080 --> 01:12:29,599 Speaker 1: out of the end zone is a is a bizarre 1396 01:12:29,760 --> 01:12:33,880 Speaker 1: rule that just doesn't really got to count. Yeah, why 1397 01:12:33,960 --> 01:12:37,880 Speaker 1: do we have rules that punished athletes for making spectacular 1398 01:12:37,960 --> 01:12:42,840 Speaker 1: attempts at place? Well? I do think that players might 1399 01:12:42,960 --> 01:12:46,400 Speaker 1: have to rethink all the diving at the end zone though, 1400 01:12:47,040 --> 01:12:50,040 Speaker 1: in that way, because it's happened so many times. Jesse James, 1401 01:12:50,200 --> 01:12:51,880 Speaker 1: you know, the Steelers win if he just holds onto 1402 01:12:51,920 --> 01:12:54,720 Speaker 1: the ball. There he did, he crossed the I know, 1403 01:12:54,840 --> 01:12:57,719 Speaker 1: but if the ball in his hands, if he hadn't 1404 01:12:58,040 --> 01:13:00,880 Speaker 1: gotten out, I hear what you're saying in Derek Carr 1405 01:13:00,960 --> 01:13:03,960 Speaker 1: in that situation. Jeffy did a great job getting over there, 1406 01:13:04,320 --> 01:13:06,840 Speaker 1: but ultimately, like if he had just taken that, if 1407 01:13:06,880 --> 01:13:08,559 Speaker 1: he had gotten the first down, or you know, he'd 1408 01:13:08,600 --> 01:13:11,040 Speaker 1: been a little more careful with the ball, ball security, 1409 01:13:11,400 --> 01:13:12,880 Speaker 1: they have first and go at the one, and they 1410 01:13:12,880 --> 01:13:16,080 Speaker 1: win that game. We should mention the other most amusing 1411 01:13:16,120 --> 01:13:19,519 Speaker 1: part of the game itself was okay, but the really 1412 01:13:19,560 --> 01:13:22,799 Speaker 1: amusing and it was a gutsy onion call by Jason Garrett. 1413 01:13:23,280 --> 01:13:26,439 Speaker 1: Fourth and one, five minutes to play in the fourth quarter, 1414 01:13:26,800 --> 01:13:29,880 Speaker 1: at their own thirty nine. The Cowboys decided to go 1415 01:13:30,080 --> 01:13:33,080 Speaker 1: for it empty backfield, which is a little weird. Someone 1416 01:13:33,160 --> 01:13:36,880 Speaker 1: goes in motion and Dak Prescott takes a snap surges forward. 1417 01:13:37,400 --> 01:13:41,639 Speaker 1: It appeared, at least by the first glance, that Dak 1418 01:13:41,680 --> 01:13:43,840 Speaker 1: got it, but they decided to bring out the chain gang, 1419 01:13:44,520 --> 01:13:48,200 Speaker 1: and it is so close the measurement that Jene Sterator, 1420 01:13:48,240 --> 01:13:51,120 Speaker 1: who by the way, Jeane Sterator, who called the who 1421 01:13:51,200 --> 01:13:53,680 Speaker 1: made the Dez caught it decision? Maybe this is a 1422 01:13:53,720 --> 01:13:56,479 Speaker 1: bit of a makeup call, decides to fold over a 1423 01:13:56,640 --> 01:14:00,320 Speaker 1: index card. What a day for the NFL officials to 1424 01:14:00,720 --> 01:14:03,840 Speaker 1: decide if he actually just did get the first down, 1425 01:14:04,040 --> 01:14:07,200 Speaker 1: and that was through the bent index card. The decision 1426 01:14:07,320 --> 01:14:09,640 Speaker 1: was made that the Cowboys did get the first so 1427 01:14:09,800 --> 01:14:12,320 Speaker 1: first and ten at the forty three plays later, a 1428 01:14:12,439 --> 01:14:15,640 Speaker 1: forty yard passed to Dez Bryant, which set up a 1429 01:14:15,800 --> 01:14:18,400 Speaker 1: field goal to make it seventeen. And then it was 1430 01:14:18,479 --> 01:14:22,479 Speaker 1: that ensuing drive which led to the car shenanigans. What 1431 01:14:22,640 --> 01:14:26,160 Speaker 1: a day? What a world? When al Michaels is, you know, 1432 01:14:27,000 --> 01:14:29,040 Speaker 1: kind of putting his hands up of like, what's a catch? 1433 01:14:29,160 --> 01:14:31,880 Speaker 1: What's anything? Like he doesn't understand the rules, then you 1434 01:14:31,920 --> 01:14:34,840 Speaker 1: know we're in trouble. Al Michael's quote, this will live 1435 01:14:34,880 --> 01:14:38,639 Speaker 1: in infamy, and there's a wry smile from territories. He's 1436 01:14:38,680 --> 01:14:40,640 Speaker 1: walking away. He's like, I know I'm going to be 1437 01:14:40,720 --> 01:14:45,200 Speaker 1: the butt of four million internet jokes over this part 1438 01:14:45,240 --> 01:14:47,439 Speaker 1: of the gig. How else are you gonna tell? If 1439 01:14:47,479 --> 01:14:50,519 Speaker 1: it's the first time and genius? I don't get what 1440 01:14:50,600 --> 01:14:52,519 Speaker 1: did it do though? That's what I'm confused about. It 1441 01:14:52,800 --> 01:14:56,720 Speaker 1: measured whether it was actually that far the card was 1442 01:14:56,880 --> 01:14:58,760 Speaker 1: hitting the football right, which makes it but it was 1443 01:14:58,920 --> 01:15:02,000 Speaker 1: bent it was fold, so we followed it tight together. 1444 01:15:02,080 --> 01:15:05,639 Speaker 1: It wasn't that tight though, Well they were upset. Del 1445 01:15:05,720 --> 01:15:07,600 Speaker 1: Rio in theory. I guess was upset because you know, 1446 01:15:07,680 --> 01:15:10,439 Speaker 1: it's double piece of paper versus one. If it's that close, 1447 01:15:10,840 --> 01:15:12,760 Speaker 1: could have been a single piece. Maybe it wouldn't have been. 1448 01:15:12,840 --> 01:15:14,920 Speaker 1: I mean, the Cowboys are now eight and six. They 1449 01:15:14,920 --> 01:15:16,720 Speaker 1: would have picked your rule book. They would have been 1450 01:15:16,760 --> 01:15:19,760 Speaker 1: all but knocked out. If if they lose this game, 1451 01:15:19,880 --> 01:15:23,599 Speaker 1: imagine a scenario here where the Cowboys win next week 1452 01:15:23,640 --> 01:15:27,519 Speaker 1: against Seattle, went against Philadelphia and they end up getting 1453 01:15:27,560 --> 01:15:29,840 Speaker 1: into the place. Who knows it could change NFL history 1454 01:15:29,920 --> 01:15:32,280 Speaker 1: that index card they'd kill, the wo'd be robbed on 1455 01:15:32,360 --> 01:15:34,880 Speaker 1: a catch rule situation against Patriots in the Super Bowl. 1456 01:15:34,880 --> 01:15:36,600 Speaker 1: If you if you don't like the Cowboys, though, I 1457 01:15:36,640 --> 01:15:38,519 Speaker 1: have a couple I have some good news for you. 1458 01:15:39,000 --> 01:15:50,519 Speaker 1: Done some calculations, good home playoff calculator. Now we're going 1459 01:15:50,560 --> 01:15:53,120 Speaker 1: to dial up at nine pm Pacific time. I mean 1460 01:15:53,200 --> 01:15:55,680 Speaker 1: the Cowboys. If you don't like the Cowboys, some good 1461 01:15:55,720 --> 01:15:57,720 Speaker 1: news for you. They're in deep trouble. They're gonna lose 1462 01:15:57,760 --> 01:16:00,639 Speaker 1: tiebreakers to the Lions. If the line get to ten, 1463 01:16:00,760 --> 01:16:03,200 Speaker 1: they're gonna lose tie break to the Falcons. If they 1464 01:16:03,280 --> 01:16:05,479 Speaker 1: get to ten and they're just not that good of 1465 01:16:05,520 --> 01:16:08,200 Speaker 1: a team and they play two decent teams coming up, 1466 01:16:08,360 --> 01:16:10,000 Speaker 1: I don't really expect them to get to tend that 1467 01:16:10,120 --> 01:16:13,000 Speaker 1: decent Seahawks team that just got absolutely jobbed in their 1468 01:16:13,040 --> 01:16:15,680 Speaker 1: home stadium. Um, okay, there you go. I'm all in 1469 01:16:15,720 --> 01:16:20,080 Speaker 1: the river with Mark's bag of cats. UH neutralize them 1470 01:16:20,200 --> 01:16:25,639 Speaker 1: with lasers. We will be back on Tuesday, uh, where 1471 01:16:25,720 --> 01:16:28,479 Speaker 1: we will begin to look towards yes the pent ultimate 1472 01:16:29,000 --> 01:16:32,799 Speaker 1: week of the regular season. And UH, thank you for everyone, 1473 01:16:33,280 --> 01:16:36,960 Speaker 1: uh for listening along as always. Uh, let's now get 1474 01:16:37,040 --> 01:16:39,400 Speaker 1: out of here. Congratulations Gregg, another big day for you. 1475 01:16:41,560 --> 01:16:44,880 Speaker 1: I'm I'm trying to be macnadals dead hands, signing off 1476 01:16:44,920 --> 01:16:48,200 Speaker 1: for a quiet storm the mailman. Have you ever blessed? 1477 01:16:48,360 --> 01:16:52,160 Speaker 1: Old Boss? And Linsey fault On behind the glass? You 1478 01:16:52,200 --> 01:16:54,360 Speaker 1: don't mess with the fault On Tuesday,