1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:03,560 Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:04,440 Speaker 1: Sports Radio. 3 00:00:04,720 --> 00:00:08,000 Speaker 2: We have some NFL news. The trade deadline is tomorrow, 4 00:00:08,600 --> 00:00:12,399 Speaker 2: and the Philadelphia Eagles have picked up Jalen Phillips from 5 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:15,600 Speaker 2: the Dolphins. There edge rusher who's only twenty six years 6 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 2: of age. The two and seven Dolphins will be selling 7 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:23,320 Speaker 2: probably a little bit more than this, but he could 8 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:26,840 Speaker 2: have left in free agency. So they're gonna get a 9 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 2: third round pick, it looks like. And the Eagles, once again, 10 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:34,160 Speaker 2: this is what they do. They've already picked up JayR Alexander, 11 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:37,600 Speaker 2: a cornerback, Michael Carter, a cornerback, and now you get 12 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 2: Phillips as well. All Right, so football coming up tonight. 13 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 2: A lot to recap from over the weekend, and we'll 14 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:46,880 Speaker 2: get to that as well. We've got to play the 15 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:50,519 Speaker 2: day poll question. Stat of the Day is always Herm Edwards, 16 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:53,159 Speaker 2: the former coach, former player, will join us coming up 17 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 2: as his former quarterback at Arizona State, Jaden Daniels went 18 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 2: down with a dislocated elbow, non throwing elbow, but still 19 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:05,679 Speaker 2: probably done for the rest of the season. Tom Berducci, 20 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 2: who was working the World Series for Fox, will somehow 21 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:12,320 Speaker 2: try to recap what we saw over the weekend as 22 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 2: the Dodgers beat the Jays in seven and Yamamoto pulling 23 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 2: a Randy Johnson, he wins game six and seven just 24 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:23,959 Speaker 2: like Randy Johnson did, and he got the MVP. In fact, 25 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 2: here is well, this is the call of Will Smith's 26 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:31,480 Speaker 2: go ahead home run. I'm going to play the Dodgers 27 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 2: call and then the Blue Jays call. This is courtesy 28 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:37,120 Speaker 2: of the Dodgers radio network. 29 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 3: The two oh Smith with a smash in the air 30 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 3: to DP pliftfield. This ball is Smith lets it fly 31 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 3: and breaks the tie in game seven. 32 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 2: Okay, here is the Blue Jays radio call. Beaver's two. 33 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 4: Swing in a deep fly left field, straw on the track, 34 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 4: looking up at the wall. It's gone. Will Smith has 35 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:12,960 Speaker 4: given the Dodgers the lead with a solo home run. 36 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 4: First LA lead of the ninth. He's in the top 37 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:16,800 Speaker 4: of the eleventh. 38 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 2: You start to do the math if you're a Blue 39 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:22,519 Speaker 2: Jays fan. In the seventh inning, Okay, we got to 40 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 2: get nine outs and then all of a sudden it's 41 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:27,680 Speaker 2: eight ounce and then seven. Once again doing the math, 42 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 2: but the Dodgers didn't go away. Crazy plays offense, defense, 43 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:36,359 Speaker 2: Guys that you probably hadn't heard of or didn't expect 44 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:39,680 Speaker 2: to do anything. Guys, you did expect to do something, didn't. 45 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:43,920 Speaker 2: It was wild. But Yamamoto, I thought if he was 46 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 2: able to pitch another great game in Game six and 47 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 2: they won, he would be the MVP. I didn't know 48 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:52,080 Speaker 2: he was going to come back for Game seven. It 49 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 2: was wild. It was wonderful, and I hope people I 50 00:02:56,320 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 2: hope people were open to the idea of watching the 51 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 2: Dodgers in the Blue Jays. If you're a non baseball fan, 52 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 2: even if you're a baseball fan, I know we look 53 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 2: at the Dodgers. People probably look at them and they're 54 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 2: the now you know, they're the villains, but they shouldn't 55 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:14,960 Speaker 2: be viewed that way in my opinion. I know that 56 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 2: it's a checkbook that's always open, but there is financial 57 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:23,359 Speaker 2: imbalance in baseball. But I would hope that this spurs 58 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 2: other teams to spend more money. The Dodgers will be 59 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 2: favored to win again next year, but you've gone back 60 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 2: to back, You've got three and five years. The Dodgers 61 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 2: may be what baseball does need, and that is spending money. 62 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 2: And I know it's hard to say, well, if we 63 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 2: had that kind of money, and we had Yamamoto. And 64 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 2: if you said at the beginning of the World Series, 65 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 2: the MVP is going to be from Japan, you probably 66 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 2: would have said, show hey Otani. But Yamamoto was wonderful 67 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 2: to watch. Loved watching him throughout and even during the 68 00:03:56,680 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 2: regular season. Even go back to the World Baseball class. 69 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 2: When you're seeing somebody like that, and I liken him 70 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 2: to Pedro Martinez. He's not big, but you talk about fundamentals. 71 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 2: He's always scribbling in his notebook. I mean, he's really 72 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 2: a true professor of the game and he loves to 73 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 2: have that data and it shows. But for Toronto, you 74 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 2: had your moments. You had your moments, crushing moments, but 75 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 2: you at least had them, and it was wonderful baseball 76 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 2: on the biggest stage of all. All right, seatan whole question. 77 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 2: What are we going to go with in the first 78 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 2: hour of the program. 79 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:37,920 Speaker 5: Well, it's Monday, so let's start with worst loss of 80 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 5: the weekend. Wow, got some options here for you. Are 81 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 5: the blue Jays in this blue Jays are not Okay, 82 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:46,719 Speaker 5: they're off the boards. That's obviously a terrible one. Okay, 83 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:50,720 Speaker 5: we're going to keep it to just NFL in college football. 84 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 2: Okay, go with those two. 85 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 5: Why don't we start in the NFL? We could go 86 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:59,799 Speaker 5: straight to your Cincinnati Bengals dropping one to the Chicago Bears. 87 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:01,159 Speaker 2: They're not my Bengals. 88 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 5: Paul's Chicago Bay Yes, and somebody else's Cincinnati Bengals. 89 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:07,839 Speaker 6: Yes. 90 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:11,240 Speaker 2: Here is the Bengals. Head coach Zach Taylor is. The 91 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 2: Bengals found yet another way to lose. 92 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:17,280 Speaker 7: His coaches were just spin this week, finding a way 93 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:20,280 Speaker 7: to help everybody and get it done, because this is 94 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 7: it's sick. It's sick to lose like that. It's sick. 95 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:26,040 Speaker 7: So we got to own it and we got to 96 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:28,479 Speaker 7: keep finding ways to improve and keep finding ways to 97 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 7: find a win. 98 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:31,160 Speaker 8: As last two weeks has happened. 99 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:37,480 Speaker 2: Okay, you get incredible play from Joe Flacco and no defense. Again, 100 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 2: it didn't matter if you had Joe Burrow this year. 101 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 2: It really didn't. I mean, you got Trey Hendrickson, but 102 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:47,280 Speaker 2: that defense is not good. I wouldn't be surprised if 103 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 2: you ship him out the trade deadline. The way things 104 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:53,280 Speaker 2: are going here, your defense can't be any worse. Might 105 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 2: as well get something for him. But you're watching that, 106 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 2: you know, and look somebody had to win that game. 107 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 2: Somebody had to lose that game too, and the Bears 108 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 2: certainly had their hand in both. You know, maybe winning, 109 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:09,919 Speaker 2: maybe losing. But you're watching the Bengals and all I 110 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 2: thought is can you maintain five hundred. If you can 111 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:16,719 Speaker 2: maintain five hundred for another month or so and maybe 112 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 2: you get Joe Burrow back, it doesn't matter if Joe 113 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 2: Burrow comes back, you're not winning and you're scoring forty 114 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 2: and not winning, that's pretty hard to do. Chase Brown, 115 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:34,160 Speaker 2: the running back for the Bengals, who had one hundred yards, 116 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:36,160 Speaker 2: not happy. 117 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 9: We just got to play complimentary football, like we put 118 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:40,719 Speaker 9: the ball in the end zone and go up a 119 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:44,040 Speaker 9: point at the end and the game like make them, 120 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:46,240 Speaker 9: make them get us the ball back, let us go 121 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 9: to twenty two victory, and let's end the game. 122 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 2: That's how that's like. 123 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:52,039 Speaker 9: That's how I feel any playmaker on this team, any 124 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:55,159 Speaker 9: any position, like we're all willing to do whatever it 125 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:57,920 Speaker 9: takes to win. We just got to finish. I think 126 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:01,679 Speaker 9: that's like what you go into this by week thinking 127 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 9: and kind of repeating to yourself is just finish, finish, 128 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 9: finish these games. Jus finish out what was round through 129 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 9: your head walking back to the locker room chase probably 130 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 9: the same as what was running through your head, like 131 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 9: like what. 132 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 2: The yeah, kind of a nervous laughter. There a bye week, 133 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 2: you've lost six to seven, and this where you get 134 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 2: a divided locker room. This is when the offense is like, like, 135 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 2: what is up with you guys? Just get a stop 136 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 2: the Bears, you know they're not that good, Just get 137 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:43,680 Speaker 2: a stop. We could have won these games. Yes, yes, hey, 138 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 2: y that. 139 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 5: It really isn't anything new for the Bengals either, because 140 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 5: you could go back last year they how many one 141 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 5: score losses they had. You know, you lost sixteen to 142 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 5: ten to the Patriots twenty six, twenty five. They have 143 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 5: a lot of very very very close losses over the years. 144 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 5: Over the last two years at least, you don't think 145 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 5: of the Bears as a running team. But when you 146 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 5: give up over two hundred and fifty yards rushing to 147 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:15,119 Speaker 5: the Bears, culture is a word that's used a lot, 148 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 5: and that culture is not good. And Zach Taylor might 149 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:21,559 Speaker 5: be holding on for dear life here because you've lost 150 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 5: six of your last seven and you're giving up forty 151 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 5: points in these games. You're scoring forty and losing. All right, 152 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:34,200 Speaker 5: who else would be on that list there? Seaton, let's 153 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:37,319 Speaker 5: see worst loss of the weekend, we can hit the 154 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 5: man the Colts at Steelers. 155 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:43,440 Speaker 2: That's a bad loss for the Colts because of how 156 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 2: they lost, because it makes you go Danny Dimes. And 157 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 2: that was one of those where I was curious about 158 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 2: it and then all of a sudden, I go, oh, 159 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:59,680 Speaker 2: Danny Dimes. Maybe he is who we thought we were. 160 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:02,840 Speaker 2: I thought that was going to be the message today, 161 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:06,559 Speaker 2: and maybe it should be. Had three interceptions there when 162 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:09,600 Speaker 2: they have six turnovers, you're not going to beat anybody. 163 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 2: But that's why you've been really good. You haven't been 164 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 2: beating yourself. And Okay, maybe it's one week, and I 165 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:20,559 Speaker 2: would buy into one week, but I don't care what 166 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:24,079 Speaker 2: they do during the regular season. It's going to be 167 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:27,199 Speaker 2: in the postseason. There's certain teams and we've singled them 168 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 2: out before and the Colts are in that category. It's 169 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 2: a wonderful story until you get to the postseason. I 170 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 2: go back to Sam Darnold with the Vikings, man, this 171 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:41,719 Speaker 2: is incredible. He is incredible. They're incredible, and then they 172 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 2: weren't incredible, and then they moved on from him. By 173 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 2: the way, he was unbelievable last night. It was as 174 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:51,439 Speaker 2: about as perfect as you could get. Well was he 175 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 2: sixteen for sixteen with four touchdowns at one point. But 176 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 2: the big headline of that game, why was Jane Daniels 177 00:09:59,840 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 2: in there? It's thirty eight seven? That was what I 178 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:06,560 Speaker 2: was like, what are you doing? Unless you know? Dan 179 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 2: Quinn was thinking, I, you know, I got to get 180 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:11,680 Speaker 2: got to get him more reps in there. I would 181 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 2: get him out. He's been banged up the last couple 182 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 2: of weeks. Here is dan Quinn answering that question host game. 183 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 10: I'm asking this really respectfully. I want you to understand that. 184 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:29,680 Speaker 10: But Jade's been hurt three straight times in three straight games. 185 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:32,600 Speaker 10: Does this organization have to take a different approach with 186 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 10: him with regard to keeping him on the field even 187 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:38,840 Speaker 10: if a game's lost, or you think there's a chance, 188 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:40,439 Speaker 10: even if you think there's still a chance to win, 189 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:43,680 Speaker 10: if it's not capable of giving him the support he 190 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 10: needs on the offense and the defensive side for him 191 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 10: to be at his best. 192 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:48,559 Speaker 11: Yeah, I think the answer to that is we will 193 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:50,959 Speaker 11: give him the support to do that, and I am 194 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 11: certain of that. Dave to make sure that we do 195 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 11: that in every single way, and that's called offense defense, 196 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 11: you know, like the whole way through. Man, we feel 197 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:03,559 Speaker 11: that way on you know, the hamshuring injury and tonight 198 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 11: with an elbow. Yeah, it's really important we get that 199 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:07,880 Speaker 11: part right and we. 200 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 2: Will tough to watch. Shouldn't have been out there at 201 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:16,439 Speaker 2: thirty eight to seven. Uh, just because he's been banged up. 202 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 2: You got a preserve him for the long haul here, 203 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:24,080 Speaker 2: and that long haul is going to be now without 204 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:27,559 Speaker 2: Jayden Daniels, perhaps the rest of the regular season. All right, 205 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 2: let's see eight seven seven three DP show operator Tyler 206 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 2: sitting by. We always do it every Monday, best and 207 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 2: worst of the weekend. What you saw that you liked 208 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:38,959 Speaker 2: you didn't like? Let me get some of the Dodger 209 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 2: fans phone calls out of the way first. Uh, Gus 210 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 2: in La Gus, congratulations. 211 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:49,319 Speaker 12: Good morning, mister Patrick. How are you and the boys doing? 212 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 12: How are you and the boys doing? Other than my 213 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 12: brother James in Virginia, I think we all had a 214 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 12: pretty damn great week. 215 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 1: Get a week? 216 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 12: What a weekend? Man? What is season? Let me tell 217 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:00,720 Speaker 12: you something. Let me get this out. Wait, really quick. 218 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:03,839 Speaker 12: I'm gonna get off my sofax really quick, because all 219 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 12: I heard about this weekend from everybody coming at me. 220 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:09,719 Speaker 12: You guys bought this World series. This World Series was 221 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 12: bought for it. No, it wasn't before I continue, hold on, 222 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:15,600 Speaker 12: there we go, we got war but through there cracking. 223 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 12: Let me tell you something. You guys bought this series. Really. 224 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 12: Can anybody name me the pitcher that was ran out 225 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 12: there in Game three of the World Series for four innings, 226 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 12: who made fifty thousand dollars this year? Yeah, we really 227 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 12: bought the World Series, didn't we? Yeah? No. This dodgire 228 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 12: team was a roller coaster of emotions all year. We 229 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:37,319 Speaker 12: set the biggest loss record, not once but white this season. 230 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 12: This team was dead in the water. The Blue Jays 231 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:42,719 Speaker 12: got to bless them. They probably you know, deserved what 232 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:46,200 Speaker 12: they're hitting and they're just monstering and pitching. But at 233 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:48,679 Speaker 12: the end of the day, boy, it's Dodger Blue. I 234 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:50,680 Speaker 12: gotta get dressed. I gotta be at the stadium in 235 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:53,560 Speaker 12: a little bit. We're partying all day. You boys. Have 236 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 12: a great week. Buddha. Oh see your. 237 00:12:55,120 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 2: Suit pal, Oh thank you Gus. Buddha in San Francisco, Hey, Buddha, congratulations. 238 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:03,880 Speaker 12: Damn. 239 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:08,440 Speaker 6: It feels good to be a champion. Every day is 240 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:14,199 Speaker 6: the World Series. Let's go MORVINU best of the Weekend. 241 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:18,720 Speaker 6: Then my Dodgers winning six seven. See what I did there, 242 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 6: Fritzy sixty seven on the road and the first team 243 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 6: to win back to back in fifty years. And best 244 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 6: of the Weekend and winning my bet against Marvin, Oh 245 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 6: blueberry pie in the face and Dan. I have a 246 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:39,560 Speaker 6: proposal for you guys. I'm proposing you guys come to 247 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:43,280 Speaker 6: Herca Restaurant and I administer the pie of the space 248 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:46,200 Speaker 6: when you guys are in San Francisco, when your guys 249 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 6: are doing the Super Bowl week. 250 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 2: I'll think about it, Buddha. But congratulations. Yeah Marvin you 251 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:56,080 Speaker 2: uh he lost the bet I did. 252 00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:57,439 Speaker 8: Dodgers came through. 253 00:13:57,559 --> 00:13:59,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, keep you I'm pretty confident. Keep your head up. 254 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:03,520 Speaker 2: By the way, the starting lineup, Fritzy's here, Seaton, Mark 255 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:07,319 Speaker 2: Paul ears truly and the backroom guys, not the bathroom guys. 256 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:09,600 Speaker 2: I didn't know that. People thought I was talking about 257 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 2: the bathroom guys. It's the back room guys, the brgs. Yes, Paul, 258 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:15,080 Speaker 2: I like that. 259 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 13: Marvin is now a blue Jays fan, even though he 260 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 13: just likes their logo and colors, not their team or. 261 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 8: Organization none whatsoever. 262 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 2: I just like the logo and they, oh, you want 263 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 2: to make a bet? I mean sure, why not? Well, okay, 264 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:29,960 Speaker 2: you were going into game six and you're up, so 265 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:31,360 Speaker 2: you're up. 266 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 12: I wasn't. 267 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 2: Well your hat was that you were wearing? You know, 268 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:38,880 Speaker 2: you had a sweatshirt on as well? I did. Yeah, 269 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 2: I mean that's investing a little bit more in that. 270 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:43,880 Speaker 1: Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan 271 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 1: Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific 272 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:51,320 Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio. 273 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:54,520 Speaker 13: Wapp Hey, It's Rob Parker and Kelvin Washington from The 274 00:14:54,520 --> 00:14:56,640 Speaker 13: Odd Couple on Fox Sports Radio. 275 00:14:56,600 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 14: And in addition to hearing us live weeknights from seven 276 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 14: to ten pm Eastern on Fox Sports Radio, we are 277 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 14: excited to announce brand new YouTube channel for the show. 278 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:09,680 Speaker 13: That's right, you can now watch The Odd Couple live 279 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:11,600 Speaker 13: on YouTube every day. 280 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 14: All you gotta do search Odd Couple FSR on YouTube. 281 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:19,000 Speaker 14: Again YouTube, just search Odd Couple FSR. Check us out 282 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 14: on YouTube and subscribe. 283 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 2: We bring in Herm Edwards, ESPN football analyst and former 284 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:29,720 Speaker 2: NFL and college head coach and a former defensive back 285 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:33,920 Speaker 2: as well. How do you react as a coach when 286 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 2: your offense is putting up forty and your defense is 287 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 2: giving up forty and it doesn't enter the locker room, 288 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:42,680 Speaker 2: it doesn't divide the team. 289 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 13: It's tough, Dan, And obviously that that has kind of 290 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:51,680 Speaker 13: taking place in Cincinnati right now, and that's a tough 291 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:56,640 Speaker 13: conversation that you're going to have to have with the 292 00:15:56,720 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 13: whole team. But then particularly was some of the players 293 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 13: that are a little frustrated to this point, you're gonna 294 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 13: have to call them in and say, look, I understand. 295 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 8: Well, we all we. 296 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:11,400 Speaker 13: All get it, but we got to make sure we 297 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 13: keep this in house and that we continue to try 298 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:15,680 Speaker 13: to win a game. 299 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 8: And obviously, when you coach. 300 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:23,120 Speaker 13: On one side of the ball your whole life, unless 301 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:27,040 Speaker 13: say I was a defensive guy, you take it personal 302 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 13: that your defense is playing like this. 303 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:30,560 Speaker 8: As a head coach, or if. 304 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 13: Your offense on the on the other side of it, 305 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:35,600 Speaker 13: you know you're losing games up, you know, fourteen to 306 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 13: seven and stuff like that, and you're going, hey, man, offensively, 307 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:40,160 Speaker 13: so you. 308 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:42,400 Speaker 8: Take it personal. Obviously, you talk. 309 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:44,520 Speaker 13: To those guys on the side of the ball defensive 310 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 13: coaches and say, look, what are we doing to make 311 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:52,920 Speaker 13: sure that then they don't get the big explosive place 312 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:55,600 Speaker 13: because when you watch Cincinnati, I mean it's. 313 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:58,320 Speaker 8: Almost like, oh man, I mean every. 314 00:16:58,200 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 13: Time they throw the ball and it's a twenty yard 315 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 13: you know, and look, they might not have a rush 316 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 13: with all that, but you got to stop that. You 317 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:10,359 Speaker 13: got to stop some breeding somewhere, right if they're running 318 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:13,119 Speaker 13: the ball, and as well, you say, coach, you know, 319 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 13: we gotta put I don't care if. 320 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:16,560 Speaker 8: We put nine guys in the box, they're not gonna 321 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:18,240 Speaker 8: run the ball. We gotta do something to stop this. 322 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 8: So that's part of the discussion. 323 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:24,480 Speaker 2: Watching the Chiefs yesterday, not surprised they lost in Buffalo. 324 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:28,080 Speaker 2: But here is the bigger picture. DraftKings still has them 325 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:31,919 Speaker 2: with I think Buffalo as the team to beat for 326 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:36,720 Speaker 2: the super Bowl the best odds. And I'm going, okay, 327 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:41,760 Speaker 2: if I said, would you bet on the Chiefs making 328 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:44,359 Speaker 2: the super Bowl or not making the playoffs right now? 329 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:51,560 Speaker 2: Because both are a very realistic. 330 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:55,400 Speaker 13: I think I think they find a way to get 331 00:17:55,400 --> 00:18:00,560 Speaker 13: in the playoffs, right because look, Dan, the more you 332 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 13: look at this and I'm kind of looking at this 333 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 13: I'm going to look, there's only two teams with seven wins. 334 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:09,479 Speaker 8: There's what six teams with six wins. 335 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:14,119 Speaker 13: I mean, it's like all these divisions all of a 336 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 13: sudden have kind of they're close. 337 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:19,199 Speaker 8: I mean they're close all of a sudden. 338 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:22,159 Speaker 13: If I'd have told you, hey, by the way, in 339 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:27,080 Speaker 13: week nine, the Chicago Bears are going to have the 340 00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:29,760 Speaker 13: same record as the Green Bay Packers and the Detroit Lines. 341 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 13: You say, coach, what you're talking about? Oh, they all 342 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:38,000 Speaker 13: got five wins? Five five, five wins? And so you 343 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:40,240 Speaker 13: sit here and every time you think you figured out 344 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:46,120 Speaker 13: a division or a team, you go, they're all the same, right, 345 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:50,120 Speaker 13: I mean, Dan, I mean, we generally have a team 346 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:53,480 Speaker 13: that time runs away from everybody. That's not the case anymore. 347 00:18:55,760 --> 00:19:00,120 Speaker 2: But your eyes don't lie when, like you can tell, 348 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 2: let's take the record out of this. 349 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:03,120 Speaker 12: Yeah. 350 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:05,359 Speaker 2: And then sometimes you look at a team and you know, 351 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:07,960 Speaker 2: the Bears aren't as good as the Lions or the Packers, 352 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:12,760 Speaker 2: but they're, you know, on equal footing here. The Chargers 353 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:15,720 Speaker 2: in the Broncos aren't as good as the Chiefs probably 354 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:19,480 Speaker 2: in people's minds. But your eyes don't lie when you're 355 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:21,480 Speaker 2: watching some of the You know, the Broncos want a 356 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 2: really tough game. 357 00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 13: You are correct, and the Broncos are hard out because 358 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:29,040 Speaker 13: they don't allow you to score points. They got a 359 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:31,159 Speaker 13: young quarterback. They don't give up a lot of points. 360 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:34,560 Speaker 13: I mean they hold you under it. When a defense 361 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:38,200 Speaker 13: can hold you under twenty points last time I checked, 362 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:41,320 Speaker 13: that's pretty good, right in this league, in the NFL, 363 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 13: where it's a throwing league, everybody can score when and 364 00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:47,200 Speaker 13: so you're running against some teams now that all of 365 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 13: a sudden defensively Seattle. 366 00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 8: Seahawks, they play good deal. 367 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:55,440 Speaker 13: There's some teams that are playing deep and it warms. 368 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:56,199 Speaker 8: My heart when I see it. 369 00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:59,160 Speaker 13: I go, oh, we can still play defense in this league, right, 370 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:02,560 Speaker 13: And I think those teams that can do that, they 371 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:03,640 Speaker 13: have the ability to go. 372 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:07,159 Speaker 8: On the road and beat teams. Right when you can play. 373 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:10,960 Speaker 13: Defense because defense travels, it can play in any any condition. 374 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:13,240 Speaker 8: Offense not so much. 375 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 13: If you're in in a dome, yeah, but when you 376 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:18,119 Speaker 13: get outside, all of a sudden, the offenses are the 377 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:22,440 Speaker 13: weather kind of predicts we can't throw it fifty times 378 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:24,680 Speaker 13: a day, boys, right, It's it's interesting. 379 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 2: Why was Jaden Daniels in there? Down thirty eight to seven. 380 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 13: Yeah, that's that's a hard one there, And I knew 381 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:33,679 Speaker 13: that was gonna come up as soon as I saw it. 382 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:37,560 Speaker 8: Yeah, And I think there comes a point to where, first. 383 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:39,840 Speaker 13: Of all, we know the players are competitive and they 384 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:40,840 Speaker 13: don't ever want to come out. 385 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:42,680 Speaker 8: Sometimes you got to protection from yourself. 386 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:44,960 Speaker 13: And I think there's a point in that third quarter 387 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:47,560 Speaker 13: where you're looking at it and you're going to how 388 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:50,760 Speaker 13: many possessions do I have left? I got four possessions 389 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 13: left probably in this game. Ah, coach, we got to 390 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 13: have to pull the quarterback right, and you got to 391 00:20:57,800 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 13: make that decision. And it's hard, and sometimes you get 392 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:02,480 Speaker 13: caught up in the game and you're so competitive you 393 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:04,720 Speaker 13: want your good guys in the game, and. 394 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:06,560 Speaker 8: But there comes a point to where you got. 395 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:09,239 Speaker 13: I gotta get him out right, because he's already been 396 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:09,680 Speaker 13: in or twice. 397 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:11,920 Speaker 2: I know that's the point. When I'm watching, I'm going 398 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 2: take him out, take him out. I know he just 399 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 2: got back. I don't want to give him more reps. 400 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:22,440 Speaker 2: I want to protect him long haul. And now a 401 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:23,440 Speaker 2: season's over. 402 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:26,879 Speaker 13: Yeah, because you're not bringing him back. I don't care 403 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:29,560 Speaker 13: what they say he's done for the year. I mean, 404 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 13: if that's if I'm that I'm in that organization, I'm going, 405 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:35,000 Speaker 13: hey we can we look, we we got to now, 406 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:37,760 Speaker 13: you know, three times in one year is a lot, 407 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:39,120 Speaker 13: So let's just rest him. 408 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:42,440 Speaker 2: Now we're talking to Herm Edwards of the Mothership. Yeah, 409 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:45,440 Speaker 2: I got the odds here super Bowl odds. The Bills 410 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 2: have the best odds. Then it's the Chiefs, then it's 411 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:54,919 Speaker 2: the Rams. Matthew Stafford has stayed healthy, Herm and I 412 00:21:55,280 --> 00:22:00,320 Speaker 2: thought if he stayed healthy, I thought they they were 413 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:02,480 Speaker 2: going to beat the Eagles last year. If that game 414 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:06,719 Speaker 2: goes sixty seconds more, they probably win that game. I 415 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:11,080 Speaker 2: just don't like he's been incredible. When you talk about 416 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:14,399 Speaker 2: MVP candidate, we might not be talking about him, but 417 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:16,119 Speaker 2: Stafford has been wonderful. 418 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:17,880 Speaker 8: He's unbelievable. 419 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:20,399 Speaker 13: He's fun to watch and look and they were winning 420 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:21,440 Speaker 13: games without Nicola. 421 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:22,120 Speaker 8: Now he's back. 422 00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:24,880 Speaker 13: And their defense doesn't get a lot of credit. They 423 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:27,600 Speaker 13: do a nice job too. This is a very well 424 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 13: coordinated team. They can run the football, they can throw 425 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:33,240 Speaker 13: the football. They play good defense, They have the elements 426 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 13: that can travel. 427 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:37,159 Speaker 8: They look I know they you know, they playing. 428 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:38,920 Speaker 13: A dome and on it, they can play outside. 429 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:41,480 Speaker 8: This team, they ain't wont of them teams? Oh I 430 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:43,120 Speaker 8: got to play a dome? No no, no, no, no, 431 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:45,120 Speaker 8: they can go play outside. Right. 432 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:48,400 Speaker 13: They're a tough football team. 433 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:51,320 Speaker 8: It's just they're in a division. Do I look at 434 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 8: that division? I go, wow, everyone's got six wins over there. See, 435 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:57,320 Speaker 8: Adam's got San Francisco, believe it or not. 436 00:22:57,400 --> 00:23:00,280 Speaker 13: With all the injuries, San Francisco is still finding to 437 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:01,280 Speaker 13: win football games. 438 00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:06,200 Speaker 8: And then the Rams. The Rams are probably the fun 439 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:09,880 Speaker 8: team to watch because of how they play offense. Right, 440 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:11,840 Speaker 8: this is like, wow, look at this stuff. Man, it's 441 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 8: just fun. And then you. 442 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:16,240 Speaker 13: Marvel at Matthew Stafford, and you Matthew mentioned Matthew Stafford. 443 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:18,920 Speaker 13: We gotta tip our hat to this guy. How about 444 00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:26,080 Speaker 13: Joe Flacco, I mean Joe Flacco. It's almost like he 445 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 13: just hey, he leaves for a couple of weeks. Get 446 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 13: him at the bus stop, Hey, Joe, come on in here. 447 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:33,879 Speaker 13: And all he does is throw touchdowns. A guy, the 448 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:35,399 Speaker 13: guy just throw touchdowns. 449 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:41,399 Speaker 2: Unbelievable, unbelievable. He's doing exactly what Joe Burrow would be doing. Yes, 450 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:44,199 Speaker 2: but the defense has been terrible here it is. The 451 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:46,720 Speaker 2: Bengals are the first team to lose consecutive games in 452 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:50,359 Speaker 2: which they scored thirty eight or more. You have to 453 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 2: go back to nineteen sixty six last time that happened. 454 00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:56,639 Speaker 13: Yeah, you would think when in the NFL you score 455 00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:59,560 Speaker 13: thirty points, you gonna win a lot of football games. 456 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:03,280 Speaker 13: But that's not the league has and you you Dan, 457 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:05,200 Speaker 13: you you've covered the league as long as I've been 458 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:09,280 Speaker 13: involved in it. It's just it's amazing what these quarterbacks 459 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:12,240 Speaker 13: can do and these offenses can do to you now, 460 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:14,199 Speaker 13: and how they can score. 461 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:17,160 Speaker 8: It's just like it's almost reminds you of college football something. 462 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:19,960 Speaker 8: I'm like this NFL man, they just score. 463 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:23,359 Speaker 13: If you don't have a pass rush and you don't tackle, well, 464 00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:26,919 Speaker 13: you got a problem. You got a major problem. And 465 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:28,840 Speaker 13: there's a lot of teams that don't have those two. 466 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:32,639 Speaker 2: Convince me that what you saw with the Colts is 467 00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:37,920 Speaker 2: not part of a bigger picture, bigger problem for this team. 468 00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:41,200 Speaker 8: Well, this was the test for the Colts. 469 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 13: And I've been saying, Look, he went from Danny Dimes 470 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 13: to Indiana Jones. 471 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:46,720 Speaker 8: When he was in Indiana. 472 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:51,040 Speaker 13: Now and then he plays Pittsburgh and Pittsburgh just lost 473 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:52,040 Speaker 13: the prior week. 474 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:54,320 Speaker 8: At home and I said it. I'm a student. 475 00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:57,960 Speaker 13: I said, Pittsburgh ain't losing another one at home boys, 476 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:01,480 Speaker 13: And you know what showed up kind of like the 477 00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:03,880 Speaker 13: Ravens have done the last couple of weeks. The Pittsburgh 478 00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:09,160 Speaker 13: defense showed up and it was like, oh boy, then 479 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:11,720 Speaker 13: he had no shot. They had no shot to win 480 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:14,840 Speaker 13: that game. The way that defense played five sacks turnover. 481 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:18,239 Speaker 8: That he had no shot. It was like, oh, and 482 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:22,160 Speaker 8: so now you off for the Colts. 483 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:23,960 Speaker 6: I y. 484 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:28,119 Speaker 8: You know every week they were winning. 485 00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:30,800 Speaker 13: When they were winning, you kept standing the wheels are 486 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:33,520 Speaker 13: coming off, and then they just kept winning and finally 487 00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:36,160 Speaker 13: said maybe they're a really good team. And then they 488 00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:38,640 Speaker 13: played Pittsburgh, And now you're scratching your head again, Well 489 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:39,960 Speaker 13: what kind of team are they? 490 00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:40,320 Speaker 12: Right? 491 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:45,000 Speaker 8: I think they win the division? Right? I mean the 492 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:46,399 Speaker 8: Jaguars gonna win the division. 493 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:50,639 Speaker 13: No, Houston Texas gonna win the division. No, Tennessee, the 494 00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 13: Titan's gonna win a division. No, it's their division to lose. 495 00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:56,159 Speaker 13: Indianapolis Colts are gonna win the division. 496 00:25:57,080 --> 00:26:02,520 Speaker 2: Explain to me how the Packers at home, Yeah, lose 497 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:06,639 Speaker 2: to I'm gonna give Carolina credit. Okay, they played well 498 00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:11,600 Speaker 2: and they run the football. They kept it close. And 499 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:13,800 Speaker 2: but you're the Packers at home. 500 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:18,840 Speaker 13: That was any You're right, Dan, because that's a special 501 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:21,400 Speaker 13: place and. 502 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:22,320 Speaker 8: And I know that being a former. 503 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:25,879 Speaker 13: Player going to Green Bay, playing there and coaching against 504 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:26,879 Speaker 13: the Packers as well. 505 00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:32,760 Speaker 8: The Packers played down to the competition. And here's my 506 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:36,200 Speaker 8: take on it too. You know what I said, think 507 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 8: about it, man. 508 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:41,200 Speaker 13: This year, for some reason, they're bringing back to these 509 00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:45,200 Speaker 13: old uniforms, and almost. 510 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:47,000 Speaker 8: Ninety percent of the teams that wore those old uniforms 511 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:50,400 Speaker 8: they lose. When I looked at the Green Bay Packers and. 512 00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:52,520 Speaker 13: They had that old helmet on, I said, these boys are. 513 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:56,680 Speaker 8: Today the trump If you want to wear those uniforms, 514 00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:59,000 Speaker 8: wear them in practice, don't wear them in a real game. 515 00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:01,040 Speaker 8: I mean I saw that true. Just wear that banana 516 00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:02,960 Speaker 8: suit they had on auto, and. 517 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:05,280 Speaker 13: I said, that is the ugliest looking thing I've ever seen. 518 00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:05,959 Speaker 8: They lost. 519 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:08,719 Speaker 13: Pittsburgh went back to that old universe. 520 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:11,240 Speaker 8: They lost. Every time I turn them out, when they. 521 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:13,280 Speaker 13: Put on that suits, them old suits, I go, they're 522 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:13,800 Speaker 13: gonna lose. 523 00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:17,040 Speaker 8: You don't want to see those those suits. 524 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:21,919 Speaker 2: Although Seattle brought back the Jim Zorn uniform and that 525 00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:22,920 Speaker 2: was okay. 526 00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:26,399 Speaker 13: We're used to that one when they take it way back. 527 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:28,760 Speaker 2: Can't take it too far back. 528 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:29,760 Speaker 8: No, that was. 529 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:37,399 Speaker 2: What do you expect? Is this going to be a 530 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:40,240 Speaker 2: game tonight? Can this be a game tonight with the 531 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:41,360 Speaker 2: Cowboys and the Cardinals? 532 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:44,480 Speaker 13: If you're the Cowboys, you don't want to make it 533 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:47,879 Speaker 13: a game. This offense can score now they can, and 534 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 13: the Cardinals are struggling some. But the offense of the 535 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:53,240 Speaker 13: Dallas Cowboys, you know, prior to the last couple of weeks, 536 00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:55,080 Speaker 13: this is the number one offense in the league. Now 537 00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:56,840 Speaker 13: their defense wasn't very good. 538 00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:02,520 Speaker 8: Poor Jerry, he just can't figure it out. 539 00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:05,000 Speaker 13: He's got He's got this high flat offense and Dak 540 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:07,399 Speaker 13: Prescott was playing at MVP level last couple of weeks. 541 00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:10,840 Speaker 13: You know, until you know. But this offense is fun 542 00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:14,120 Speaker 13: to want. But the defense then they can't stop anybody. 543 00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:18,399 Speaker 13: I mean making now so so Arizona might have a chance, 544 00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:19,680 Speaker 13: but I don't think they. 545 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:22,080 Speaker 8: Can keep up with the pace of the Cowboys offense. 546 00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:26,600 Speaker 2: Do you think Jerry does something? We saw the Eagles 547 00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:29,000 Speaker 2: they made a move here, they made a couple of moves. 548 00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:33,080 Speaker 2: Does Jerry go after one of these edge rushers? Does 549 00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:36,119 Speaker 2: he try to go re engage with the Raiders, with 550 00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:39,520 Speaker 2: Max Crosby, Trey Hendrickson, with the Bengals. 551 00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:41,960 Speaker 8: I would I would think it had a conversation there. 552 00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:43,160 Speaker 8: They're three four and one. 553 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:48,520 Speaker 13: They got to heal the climb to get to the playoffs, right, 554 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:52,480 Speaker 13: I mean they're worth the worst the worst case scenario. 555 00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:55,800 Speaker 8: Can they get in as a wild card? I don't 556 00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:57,760 Speaker 8: know that. I don't know that. 557 00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:00,080 Speaker 2: Could they have gotten in with Micah Parsons? 558 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:07,840 Speaker 8: He helps you in this sense. But here's the problem. 559 00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:09,280 Speaker 8: They can't stop the run. 560 00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:13,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, but they brought in a run stopper. 561 00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:19,040 Speaker 8: Yeah, and they're and their thirty seconds. One guy can't 562 00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:21,480 Speaker 8: do it. You need linebackers too, you know, you need 563 00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:24,080 Speaker 8: some other guy. One guy just can't do it by hisself. 564 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:26,600 Speaker 13: He may he may control the A gap, but there's 565 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:28,400 Speaker 13: another A gap over there on the other side. 566 00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:30,080 Speaker 8: There's two B gaps they can run too. 567 00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:32,440 Speaker 13: And the last time I checked, you better have some linebackers. 568 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:34,160 Speaker 8: They can step up in there and play those gaps. 569 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:37,040 Speaker 2: Is anybody around you there at the mother Ship? Are 570 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:38,240 Speaker 2: you in a room by yourself? 571 00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:40,520 Speaker 8: No, I'm over here. I'm over here in the radio row. 572 00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:43,040 Speaker 8: You know I slipped over here. 573 00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:47,320 Speaker 2: Yeah. I didn't know if people wanted to know who 574 00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:48,120 Speaker 2: you were talking to. 575 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:50,360 Speaker 8: But they know I told them who else I'm going. 576 00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:54,080 Speaker 2: Okay, tell everybody there, I said alone, right, I will. 577 00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:54,640 Speaker 8: I will. 578 00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:57,600 Speaker 2: Great to talk to you, buddy, Thank you, Thank you, 579 00:29:57,640 --> 00:29:58,760 Speaker 2: my friend. 580 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:01,960 Speaker 1: Fox Sports right has the best sports talk lineup in 581 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:05,360 Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio 582 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:09,600 Speaker 1: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to 583 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:10,400 Speaker 1: listen live. 584 00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:14,760 Speaker 2: Tom Berducci, sports illustrated senior baseball writer, New York Times 585 00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:17,840 Speaker 2: bestselling author, co host of the Book of Joe podcasts 586 00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:21,680 Speaker 2: with Joe Madden, did a great job at the World Series. Tom, 587 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:24,160 Speaker 2: If I said what do you think is going to 588 00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:28,120 Speaker 2: happen in Game seven? Before Game seven unfolded, you would 589 00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:28,640 Speaker 2: have said, what. 590 00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:34,520 Speaker 15: I liked Toronto going into that game because they were 591 00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:39,840 Speaker 15: a home But I did not expect that Yesternobi Yamamoto 592 00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:41,440 Speaker 15: was going to pitch in that game at all. 593 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:42,240 Speaker 16: I really didn't. 594 00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:45,520 Speaker 15: It wasn't on my Bengo card that after pitching Game 595 00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:47,080 Speaker 15: six he'd come back the next day. 596 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:48,360 Speaker 16: That was a difference maker. 597 00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:51,120 Speaker 2: What do you think was the turning point in the game. 598 00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:56,000 Speaker 15: Well, the home run by Miggi Rojas, right, I mean 599 00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:58,400 Speaker 15: the Jays are two outs away from the first World 600 00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:01,240 Speaker 15: Series in thirty two years. Your closer on the mound. 601 00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:05,280 Speaker 15: It's a three to two count, number nine hitter. I 602 00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:08,120 Speaker 15: understand you can't walk him because Otani is on deck. 603 00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:10,040 Speaker 15: He's the go ahead run, right, so you have to 604 00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:13,280 Speaker 15: throw a strike. What I didn't like was throwing a slider. 605 00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:16,200 Speaker 15: When you have to throw a strike, that's a strike 606 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:17,000 Speaker 15: to strike pitch. 607 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:21,680 Speaker 16: I'd rather just throw a fastball challenge him. And it 608 00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:22,280 Speaker 16: was a hanger. 609 00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:25,640 Speaker 15: I mean, it's a home run that you didn't see coming, 610 00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:28,200 Speaker 15: kind of like that Roger Davis home run in sixteen. 611 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:30,720 Speaker 15: This happened to be two outs from the end of 612 00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:33,920 Speaker 15: the game. So that was the turning point. And after that, 613 00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:35,960 Speaker 15: I just thought the air came out of the building. 614 00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:38,000 Speaker 15: It was gonna be tough to beat the Dodgers at 615 00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:41,160 Speaker 15: that point, giving up such a renewed life right there. 616 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:44,480 Speaker 15: But listen, that was a stunning as stunning of a 617 00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:46,520 Speaker 15: home run as I've seen in the World Series. 618 00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:49,640 Speaker 2: Mickey Rojas, you bring up a great point because you 619 00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:53,959 Speaker 2: got Otani on deck and you're just kind of thinking, 620 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:56,120 Speaker 2: I just got to get through this. He's the ninth hitter. 621 00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:58,360 Speaker 2: Let me just get through this so I don't have 622 00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:01,479 Speaker 2: to worry, you know, about tany with anybody on. And 623 00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:04,880 Speaker 2: I mean, there were so many little moments here, but 624 00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:08,320 Speaker 2: that's what makes up these great games. It's small moments 625 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:11,760 Speaker 2: that can lead to big moments as well. And that's 626 00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:16,200 Speaker 2: what was fascinating about this is both teams had those moments. 627 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:19,479 Speaker 2: You either capitalized or you didn't. 628 00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:22,200 Speaker 15: Totally, Dan, I think that's what made this series and 629 00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:24,840 Speaker 15: especially this game stand apart. It's been at a lot 630 00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:28,000 Speaker 15: of great games obviously, but you can go back, like 631 00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:30,680 Speaker 15: watching a great movie, right, you go back and watch 632 00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:33,480 Speaker 15: it a second, third, fourth time. It never gets old 633 00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:36,040 Speaker 15: because you go back and you rEFInd something like, oh, 634 00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:39,600 Speaker 15: I forgot about that point or that line in this movie. 635 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:44,040 Speaker 15: How about Andy Piez going into the game, Dan, I'm 636 00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:47,520 Speaker 15: sitting there next to the Dodgers dugout. Andy Piez was 637 00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:49,880 Speaker 15: as involved in the game as I was. He's sitting 638 00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:52,920 Speaker 15: there with his hoodie on, just watching the game, and 639 00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:55,320 Speaker 15: all of a sudden, Danny Leeman, the bench coach, runs 640 00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:58,000 Speaker 15: down there and says, get in there. This is bases 641 00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:01,200 Speaker 15: loaded ninth, I think, and he just ripped off his hood. 642 00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:03,480 Speaker 15: He hadn't warned up at all, runs out the center field, 643 00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:07,080 Speaker 15: and two batters later, there he is playing Superman, jumping 644 00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:10,240 Speaker 15: over keyk Hernandez to literally save the game. 645 00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:10,760 Speaker 12: Right. 646 00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:13,320 Speaker 15: That looked, for all intents and purposes like Ernie Clement 647 00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:16,000 Speaker 15: was going to be the World Series MVP, the Jays 648 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:18,560 Speaker 15: were going to be World champions, and he flies out 649 00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:19,200 Speaker 15: of nowhere. 650 00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:20,760 Speaker 16: I mean, he must have ran more than one hundred 651 00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:21,760 Speaker 16: feet to get that ball. 652 00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:24,240 Speaker 15: That was one of the great World Series catches of 653 00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:25,880 Speaker 15: all time because of what was on the line. 654 00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:30,280 Speaker 2: But was it Okay, we know the result, but was 655 00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:33,040 Speaker 2: it a smart play by him in the moment? 656 00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:36,280 Speaker 15: You know, they tell you it's the centerfielder, go get 657 00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:39,200 Speaker 15: what you can get, right, So I think it was 658 00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:42,960 Speaker 15: in the moment because he was fearless going after that ball. 659 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:44,120 Speaker 16: I'm not sure that Key. 660 00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:46,440 Speaker 15: K would have caught it over the shoulder with his 661 00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:49,080 Speaker 15: face about five feet from the wall at that point, 662 00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:51,280 Speaker 15: so I think it was a play that had to 663 00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:54,800 Speaker 15: be made. There was a risk obviously they collide and 664 00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:55,600 Speaker 15: the ball falls. 665 00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:56,920 Speaker 16: I mean, what a way that would have been to 666 00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:57,920 Speaker 16: lose the World Series. 667 00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:01,080 Speaker 15: But I love the aggressive from that kid, he didn't 668 00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:02,320 Speaker 15: hit it all in the postseason. 669 00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:05,120 Speaker 16: He's got to play. He'll remember forever. 670 00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:09,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with you centerfield. You have control, you 671 00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:12,239 Speaker 2: have license to go after because of the angle. And 672 00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:16,000 Speaker 2: that's why I thought, Okay, you may bowl over your teammate, 673 00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:19,320 Speaker 2: but you have a better angle than he does. And 674 00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:22,840 Speaker 2: he ended up holding on to it. One thing that 675 00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:26,040 Speaker 2: I thought was so small, Well, maybe it wasn't touched 676 00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:30,239 Speaker 2: on as much that you have that you know, I kft, 677 00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:34,320 Speaker 2: he's not off third base, Tom and on contact I'm going. 678 00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:37,719 Speaker 2: I just didn't know why he didn't have a little 679 00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:40,560 Speaker 2: bit more of a lead, knowing if it's a ground ball, 680 00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:45,480 Speaker 2: you're going. And I thought that it became it shouldn't 681 00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:47,399 Speaker 2: have been close at home. I thought that he would 682 00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:48,680 Speaker 2: have been down the line a little bit. 683 00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:52,080 Speaker 15: Yeah, it's a great point, and in real time I 684 00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:56,000 Speaker 15: had the same reaction. But looking at it again, and 685 00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:59,320 Speaker 15: a lot of teams teach this in that situation, shorter 686 00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:02,080 Speaker 15: lead it because the worst thing that can happen is 687 00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:04,279 Speaker 15: what a line drive and you get doubled up and 688 00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:07,279 Speaker 15: the game's over. So there's more of the emphasis on 689 00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:10,880 Speaker 15: a better secondary than getting the longer primary lead. At 690 00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:14,279 Speaker 15: third base. He's a smart baseball player. I am not 691 00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:16,719 Speaker 15: going to question him on that. I think he was. 692 00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:18,240 Speaker 16: We already saw a line drive. 693 00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:19,640 Speaker 15: To Muncie in that game. I don't know how he 694 00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:23,799 Speaker 15: caught other than self defense. You cannot get doubled up 695 00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:26,080 Speaker 15: at third base. I think that's the right way to go. 696 00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:29,080 Speaker 15: You can argue he could have been a little more aggressive, 697 00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:31,680 Speaker 15: but on this case, I'll air on the side of 698 00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:34,440 Speaker 15: IKF being a smart ball player making the right call. 699 00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:36,920 Speaker 2: Was that the greatest game that you've ever been a 700 00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:37,279 Speaker 2: part of. 701 00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:41,040 Speaker 15: I have a hard time putting it up above Game 702 00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:45,440 Speaker 15: seven of twenty sixteen. You know, I still go back 703 00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:48,880 Speaker 15: to that seventeen minute rain delay. That just that pregnant 704 00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:50,919 Speaker 15: pause in the game. You're like, the game is tied 705 00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:52,600 Speaker 15: in the World Series, and we're gonna stop and have 706 00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:56,320 Speaker 15: a seventeen minute timeout with two teams that had won forever. 707 00:35:57,400 --> 00:35:59,239 Speaker 15: And that was another game, by the way, that had 708 00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:01,879 Speaker 15: so many twists and turns. It wasn't just the end, 709 00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:04,279 Speaker 15: it was all the pivot points in the course of 710 00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:06,880 Speaker 15: the game where history was changing minute by minute. 711 00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:09,120 Speaker 16: This is right up there, though, because. 712 00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:11,160 Speaker 15: Again I think there was so much to absorb in 713 00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:14,200 Speaker 15: this game, Dan, actually the whole series where I don't 714 00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:16,400 Speaker 15: know how many times you thought this, like the Dodgers 715 00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:18,279 Speaker 15: are going to win the World Series, the Ja's are. 716 00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:20,919 Speaker 16: Gonna win the World Series, right, Yeah, I mean. 717 00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:24,680 Speaker 15: You couldn't have written any better as far as Cliffhangers. 718 00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:27,879 Speaker 2: Go, and Dave Roberts had one of the great late 719 00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:32,040 Speaker 2: inning managerial games in the history of the sport. Everything 720 00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:39,600 Speaker 2: he did worked totally, I thought all throughout. I mean, 721 00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:42,399 Speaker 2: when you think about will Smith, you know he moved 722 00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:45,160 Speaker 2: will Smith up to the two hole because the Jays kept. 723 00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:47,759 Speaker 15: Walking show Hey Otani and MOOKI wasn't swinging a hot 724 00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:50,200 Speaker 15: bat and Will Smith was, so I think it was 725 00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:52,799 Speaker 15: Game five he moved will Smith up to number two 726 00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:55,400 Speaker 15: where he just doesn't hit, But it was because he 727 00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:57,480 Speaker 15: was the hotter bat. He's the one who HiT's the 728 00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:00,680 Speaker 15: home run, two outs, bases empty in the eleventh, getting 729 00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:02,919 Speaker 15: Mookie down in the order for Game six, he said, 730 00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:05,040 Speaker 15: I want him in an RBI spot. Maybe that'll help 731 00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:07,359 Speaker 15: him relax to swing for a base hit. He had 732 00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:11,120 Speaker 15: that huge two strike, two run, two out hit. I 733 00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:14,080 Speaker 15: really won the game for him in six, So you're right, 734 00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:16,880 Speaker 15: the defense there Miggy. I mean just the idea that 735 00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:20,600 Speaker 15: you know he told us before Game five, Before Game six, 736 00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:23,160 Speaker 15: he put Miguel Rojas in the game, who had had 737 00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:26,040 Speaker 15: a base hit for a month, literally thirty one days 738 00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:28,040 Speaker 15: since he had a base hit. Put him in the 739 00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:31,640 Speaker 15: game because, as he told us, he's such a glue guy. 740 00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:33,520 Speaker 16: I mean so much to this team. 741 00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:36,320 Speaker 15: I couldn't see going home losing the World Series without 742 00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:38,920 Speaker 15: giving him a chance to play. I had nothing to 743 00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:41,520 Speaker 15: do with the analytics or numbers. It's a look in 744 00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:44,399 Speaker 15: the eye that says, if I'm going down, I'm going 745 00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:47,040 Speaker 15: down with this guy. And not just the home run, 746 00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:49,279 Speaker 15: but how about his defensive plays. I mean the pick 747 00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:51,520 Speaker 15: he made on Key K's double play in Game six 748 00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:52,320 Speaker 15: to end the game. 749 00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:54,200 Speaker 16: Wow, that was a great play. 750 00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:56,279 Speaker 15: And then of course you mentioned the play thrown out 751 00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:59,000 Speaker 15: ikf at the plate, so you're right. I mean, Dave 752 00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:02,640 Speaker 15: Roberts made some you know, I call them blink moments 753 00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:04,000 Speaker 15: there and the course of a game where you have 754 00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:07,279 Speaker 15: to make a quick decision, and it seemed like, if 755 00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:09,680 Speaker 15: not all of them, most of them certainly worked out 756 00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:10,200 Speaker 15: in his favor. 757 00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:11,360 Speaker 16: I thought he had a great series. 758 00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:15,560 Speaker 2: Tom Bernucci Sports illustrated senior baseball writer Fox Sports on 759 00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:20,520 Speaker 2: MLB Otani's legacy. I don't know. Did he get a 760 00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:22,000 Speaker 2: boost here in the last month. 761 00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:24,560 Speaker 12: Uh? 762 00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:27,720 Speaker 16: Yeah, I mean greatest game ever, you know, ten. 763 00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:32,840 Speaker 15: Strikeout game with three home runs. Yeah, I mean the 764 00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:36,360 Speaker 15: eighteen in game, nine times on base. 765 00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:40,640 Speaker 2: Greatest World Series game of all time turned in by one. 766 00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:44,919 Speaker 15: Point on base. That's gonna be tough to be. Two 767 00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:47,319 Speaker 15: home runs, four extra base hits for the first time 768 00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:50,800 Speaker 15: in one hundred and eight years in the World Series. Yeah, 769 00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:52,680 Speaker 15: I mean, and then he goes out and pitches the 770 00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:54,560 Speaker 15: next day seventeen hours later. 771 00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:58,560 Speaker 16: Now I thought he was gassed. I mean, I really think. 772 00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:02,759 Speaker 15: There's a point where even uh is showing E on 773 00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:04,479 Speaker 15: the on the on the gas tank. 774 00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:08,160 Speaker 16: But uh, he pitched it as well as he could. 775 00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:12,759 Speaker 15: But I think his legacy Dan is cemented again by 776 00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:16,120 Speaker 15: he's a winning ballplayer. You know, he joins the Dodgers 777 00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:18,960 Speaker 15: and they've won two World Championships since he got to 778 00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:21,520 Speaker 15: pitch in the World Series for the first time. This 779 00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:24,080 Speaker 15: was the first time we saw a show. Hey, you know, 780 00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:26,879 Speaker 15: pitching and hitting in a World Series. And last year 781 00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:29,200 Speaker 15: he had the shoulder issue early against the Yankees. He 782 00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:34,400 Speaker 15: was certainly compromised there. But yeah, he keeps going further 783 00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:37,640 Speaker 15: and further away from anybody else who ever played the game. 784 00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:40,840 Speaker 15: It's it's not sacrilegious to say this is the best 785 00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:43,920 Speaker 15: baseball player who has ever played. 786 00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:46,040 Speaker 16: This game, and he keeps making it more certain. 787 00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:50,360 Speaker 2: If Babe Ruth knew that o'twani would do this later on, 788 00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:55,160 Speaker 2: would Babe have stayed a pitcher and a hitter. 789 00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:59,360 Speaker 15: That is a great question, because you just reminded me 790 00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:02,200 Speaker 15: of this base dinner in New York years ago. It 791 00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:05,360 Speaker 15: was after Katseko goes forty forty and Mickey Mantle was 792 00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:07,879 Speaker 15: at the dinner and it was late in the night, 793 00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:10,759 Speaker 15: so you can imagine how Mickey was keeping himself hydrated. 794 00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:14,880 Speaker 15: So after Katsiko got the award, Mickey actually wanted to 795 00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:17,040 Speaker 15: go back up to the podium and he said, listen, 796 00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:19,680 Speaker 15: if you guys, if I knew you guy makes such 797 00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:21,960 Speaker 15: a big deal out of forty forty, I'd have done 798 00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:26,200 Speaker 15: it like five times. But you know, going back to 799 00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:29,200 Speaker 15: the Babe, you know, he actually said he really never 800 00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:33,040 Speaker 15: had two full seasons like start to finish a two 801 00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:36,080 Speaker 15: way play. And he actually said after the second one 802 00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:38,960 Speaker 15: it's just too hard, you know. I think his heart's 803 00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:41,400 Speaker 15: based on what I've read, was really into hitting and 804 00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:43,520 Speaker 15: that's what that was his love where I think show 805 00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:47,160 Speaker 15: has DNA begins with pitching, and baby Bruce said, it's 806 00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:47,920 Speaker 15: just too hard. 807 00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:48,799 Speaker 16: Physically to keep up. 808 00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:50,920 Speaker 15: I want to hit, and you know, I don't want 809 00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:53,320 Speaker 15: to feel, you know, sore, armed or whatever play in 810 00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:57,200 Speaker 15: the outfield because there was no DHU, so I don't 811 00:40:57,239 --> 00:40:59,120 Speaker 15: think the babe would do it. The question is how 812 00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:02,640 Speaker 15: long can show Hey do this right? And watching the 813 00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:05,360 Speaker 15: physical wear and tear on him, especially after that eighteen 814 00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:08,320 Speaker 15: in the game, Dan, I started to think we better 815 00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:10,840 Speaker 15: enjoy this because I don't think it came met lasts 816 00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:14,040 Speaker 15: much longer. But then I asked Dave Roberts and he said, 817 00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:16,920 Speaker 15: I don't see any reason why he can't keep doing 818 00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:19,960 Speaker 15: this two way pitching and hitting it twenty twenty five 819 00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:20,360 Speaker 15: starts a. 820 00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:24,120 Speaker 16: Year for years and years and years. This guy is 821 00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:24,880 Speaker 16: just amazing. 822 00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:30,600 Speaker 2: And Vlad Guerrero, you know what, an incredible series and 823 00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:34,000 Speaker 2: a losing effort, and you saw how emotional he was 824 00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:37,560 Speaker 2: after the game. He was in tears. He did everything, 825 00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:41,000 Speaker 2: just about everything possible to win a World. 826 00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:43,560 Speaker 15: Series I'm glad you brought him up, Dan, because we 827 00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:44,680 Speaker 15: knew he was a great hitter. 828 00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:47,520 Speaker 16: I think this whole postseason, especially. 829 00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:50,640 Speaker 15: The World Series, pointed out what a great baseball player 830 00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:53,359 Speaker 15: this guy is. I mean, I remember a game when 831 00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:57,040 Speaker 15: Max Schurzer was pitching in Seattle in the ALCS, and 832 00:41:57,280 --> 00:42:00,560 Speaker 15: he's got a problem tipping his pitches. Was the one 833 00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:03,040 Speaker 15: of the first inning who stopped him and went to 834 00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:05,800 Speaker 15: the mound and say, hey, watch your hands. Here runners 835 00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:08,359 Speaker 15: are picking it up. There was a throw at third 836 00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:10,520 Speaker 15: base Barger threw the runner out at third instead of 837 00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:12,560 Speaker 15: throwing home. It was Glad who told him to throw 838 00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:16,759 Speaker 15: it to third, not to home. The defensive plays I 839 00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:19,600 Speaker 15: counted three great ones he made just in Game seven. 840 00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:21,279 Speaker 16: And you're right. 841 00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:23,920 Speaker 15: You saw the emotion on his face, how much this 842 00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:27,520 Speaker 15: meant to him, The swings he put on the baseball, Dan, 843 00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:29,759 Speaker 15: if you go back and look at it, this wasn't 844 00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:30,440 Speaker 15: the guy trying to. 845 00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:31,320 Speaker 16: Hit home runs. 846 00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:34,120 Speaker 15: This was a guy doing whatever he could to get 847 00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:37,440 Speaker 15: on base, shortening up sometimes even early in counts, sitting 848 00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:38,040 Speaker 15: on pitches. 849 00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:42,080 Speaker 16: I was blown away by Vlad and his all around game. 850 00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:48,120 Speaker 2: Great stuff. Are you now off? You're not doing anything. 851 00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:52,120 Speaker 15: I wish I could say that, but no, it's starting 852 00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:56,400 Speaker 15: at MLB Network. We start Awards week next week, start 853 00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:59,880 Speaker 15: aligning up the finalists for the awards tonight on it 854 00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:03,040 Speaker 15: will be network. Of course, everybody wants to wait for 855 00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:05,680 Speaker 15: the al NBP vote. That's going to be a cliffhanger 856 00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:09,280 Speaker 15: Judge and Raleigh. So I'm not getting on a plane. 857 00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:09,919 Speaker 16: So that's big. 858 00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:15,280 Speaker 2: Thanks again, Tom, Hey, my pleasure. All right, that's Tom Berducci.