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Speaker 1: Jeff Kirchen. Welcome to Is this a great game or what?

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Speaker 1: Happy Easter Sunday? At least that's the day we're recording. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: this releasing Monday morning, the day of the NCAA Championship Game.

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Speaker 1: Another week of baseball kicking off. But Dad, before we

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Speaker 1: jump into all of that stuff, I want to say,

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Speaker 1: this is probably the first time in the history of

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Speaker 1: this podcast that I am better dressed than you are.

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Speaker 1: I'm still in my Easter Sunday morning dress right Well.

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Speaker 2: Jeff, I wore a Canally suit to church this morning

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Speaker 2: because it's Easter Sunday.

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Speaker 1: I always get those at our local pizza shop. When

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Speaker 1: I order a pizza, I always get Oh you saidal,

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Speaker 1: I thought you said Canoli. I'm so sorry, yes so,

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Speaker 1: but it's raining here, so I just ran home got

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Speaker 1: Everything okay? And you said, yeah, I'm just walking home. Well,

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Speaker 1: it was early in the morning. I said, where are

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Speaker 2: Jeff, it was a nice morning. Anyone can walk two

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Speaker 2: point six miles. I'm sixty nine years old. I'm not

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Speaker 2: ninety nine. And if you think I'm going to call

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Speaker 2: That defines a good day for me.

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Speaker 1: Well, Dad, I'm telling you, I'm impressed because two point

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Speaker 1: six miles. You say, anybody can do that, that's almost

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Speaker 1: I was a little worried about your safety, but you

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Speaker 1: there were no sidewalks. And I happened to call you

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Speaker 1: right when you were passing by my old preschool, which

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Speaker 1: had some interesting memories that you had to remind me

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Speaker 2: Yes, well, we'll leave those alone. Jeff I felt sorry

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Speaker 2: like you were running around all by your I'll never

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Speaker 2: forget that. Every time I drive by that school, I

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Speaker 2: see you running all by yourself, and I'm thinking, my

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Speaker 2: three year old son doesn't have any friends. He's playing

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Speaker 2: than anyone I've ever met. So enough of feeling sorry

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Speaker 2: for you, Jeff.

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Speaker 1: Well, I appreciate that. Dad. Well. Speaking of nice outfits,

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Speaker 1: right this, if you recognize this vest, you bought me

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Speaker 1: this for Christmas years ago, years in your series, I do.

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Speaker 2: That's a col Han vest Right, it is, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: It is, and it's one of my favorite, you know,

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Speaker 1: that's your insert classic movie character name here. Vest. They

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Speaker 1: want to see dad. I'm going to I'm going to

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Speaker 2: Okay, Jeff, you don't look like Jake Jillenhall. By the way,

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Speaker 2: You've told me that multiple times. He's way better. Because

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Speaker 2: you're my son. You can't be better looking than Jake Jillenhall.

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Speaker 1: Son, tell me I've never I've never said I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: you a lie. Great shot kid, don't get cocky. No,

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Speaker 2: Oh that's Star Wars? That is uh con Han solo.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, that's what people said, this vest looks like

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Speaker 2: As opposed to Hope solo? Right, Okay, Le solo from

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Speaker 2: I don't think it looked like Harrison Ford, but maybe

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Speaker 2: with the With that, I just wish. I'm ashamed to

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Speaker 2: And I'm not proud of that. Okay, It's just I

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Speaker 1: I mean, we're twenty. You were nineteen seventy seven the

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Speaker 1: if you were seven years younger, you're thirteen, that would

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Speaker 2: Right in nineteen seven, twenty seven, I was at a

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Speaker 2: Pirates red scheme. That's what I remember. Okay, So just

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Speaker 2: movies were not part of the scenery. Never mind, forget it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I mean, I don't think I look

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Speaker 2: Right, He played branch Rickey in the Great Movie forty two.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, So I have a funny story, and I have

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Speaker 1: to day. Dad. Okay, so we went to an Easter

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Speaker 1: They said, come to brunch with us. It was like

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Speaker 1: and he goes, it's either Babe Ruth or Jackie Robinson.

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Speaker 2: Wow, he's look, Jeff, he's ten. That's so impressive.

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Speaker 1: Yall hit the floor. Dad, I was, I am. I

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Speaker 1: it because greatest hitter of all time without a doubt,

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Speaker 1: I would say Jackie Robinson the greatest impact of all time.

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Speaker 1: Also a great player, let's talk right, He's.

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Speaker 2: The most important player of all time, Babe Ruth for me,

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Speaker 2: Of the two best players, Jackie Robinson wasn't one of

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Speaker 2: There there cannot be an argument with that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So I just I needed to share that with you.

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Speaker 1: I was so excited to share that with you. Just

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Speaker 1: Before we get into the takeaways in baseball, I wanted

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Speaker 1: to do a quick update Dad as to the March

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Speaker 1: Madness brackets that we filled out you by the skin

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Speaker 1: of your teeth, I mean barely got your bracket in

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Speaker 1: in time this year. And I even heard my sister,

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Speaker 1: your daughter Kelly helped you, helped you be able to

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Speaker 2: She help me with the picks. She helped me on

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Speaker 1: Right, so that there's a hundred and nine people in

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Speaker 1: the Kirkshin Bracket Challenge. It's a bracket challenge I host

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Speaker 1: every year for friends and family, right, and currently yours

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Speaker 1: Pokemon picks, which because your grandson Carson and granddaughter Emma

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Speaker 1: So you did your Pokemon picks. You are currently in

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Speaker 1: fifteenth out of one hundred and what did I say?

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Speaker 1: One hundred and nine? Yep, one hundred and nine people.

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Speaker 2: No, but I need to explain the Pokemon picks, Jeff,

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Speaker 2: One last thing, Joe. Look our emails that we get

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Speaker 2: Well, Saturday night, Jeff Joe Adele had three home run

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Speaker 1: Look at you with the Adele cuts. I love this.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that was two stage. Sorry about that. And by

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 1: And I think the relationship between catcher and umpire cannot

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Speaker 1: be overstated. This is so pathetic for me to compare

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Speaker 1: my umpireship to that of major League baseball. But nothing

434
00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:23,320
Speaker 1: was better than going up to you know, I did

435
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Speaker 1: some pretty pretty hard hitting, you know, fifteen year old games,

436
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Speaker 1: and I'd go up to the catcher and I'd give

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Speaker 1: them a fist bump and I say, hey, you know,

438
00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:33,760
Speaker 1: have a great game. You're in between me and the ball.

439
00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:37,199
Speaker 1: You know, check it. Let's throw some strikes. Yeah, like

440
00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:39,680
Speaker 1: it's you and I And I think it's really cool.

441
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Speaker 1: Even at the major league level, there's that intimacy between

442
00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:45,359
Speaker 1: them because you're right, Dad, nobody knows better about facing

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Speaker 1: that pitch every single time than the other guy wearing

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Speaker 1: the mask, the catcher. So yeah, I think we do

445
00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:53,880
Speaker 1: need to give umpires a little more credit. I missed maybe.

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Speaker 2: Last last thing, Jeff, not being critical, but we had

447
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Speaker 2: I saw a little crawl at the bottom of a

448
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Speaker 2: game the other day that to bo Bashett new Met

449
00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:05,800
Speaker 2: has eight strikeouts this year. This was the other day

450
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Speaker 2: since and no extra base hits. So I just thought

451
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Speaker 2: it was a little bit early to be comparing strikeouts

452
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Speaker 2: to extra base hits. Okay, because we all know what

453
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Speaker 2: the strikeout rate is like these days. Great players strikeout

454
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Speaker 2: four times in the game every single night these days.

455
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Speaker 2: It's unbelievable. But it got me to thinking, what is

456
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Speaker 2: the greatest gap between strikeouts and extra base hits in

457
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Speaker 2: a season, because this implied eight strikeouts no extra base hits. Well,

458
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Speaker 2: Charlie Garringer, Jeff In nineteen thirty six Hall of Fame,

459
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Speaker 2: Second base Fame, struck out Jef. I know Jeff, different place,

460
00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:46,280
Speaker 2: different time, different game. This is nineteen thirty six, but

461
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Speaker 2: he struck out thirteen times all year and had eighty

462
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Speaker 2: seven extra base hits. Joe DiMaggio in the year in

463
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Speaker 2: which he hit in fifty six straight games nineteen forty one,

464
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Speaker 2: he had eighty four extra base hits and struck out

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Speaker 2: thirteen times. I mean, again, they're not seeing the pitching

466
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Speaker 2: we see today, and they're seeing so many pitchers over

467
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Speaker 2: and over again. But yeah, eighty four and thirteen, eighty

468
00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:19,080
Speaker 2: seven and thirteen, that's amazing, is it not?

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Speaker 1: It really is? Dad, And I think I don't even

470
00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:25,439
Speaker 1: want to look up what like our big stars are

471
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Speaker 1: doing extra base hits to strikeouts, because when you think

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Speaker 1: about it, it's just in general, right, Like Aaron Judge

473
00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:34,920
Speaker 1: struck out one hundred and sixty dimes last year, right,

474
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Speaker 1: one hundred and sixty times and won the MVP and

475
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Speaker 1: had a whole lot of extra base hits. But it's

476
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Speaker 1: just a different game. It's just the way the world works.

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Speaker 1: And this is this is what I love about baseball.

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Speaker 1: When you debate could a player play today or whatever,

479
00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:51,200
Speaker 1: you can't make those comparisons because the game has changed.

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Speaker 1: And that's why the game is great, because as players changed,

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Speaker 1: the game changes.

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Speaker 2: Right and Jeff, The record for most strikeouts in an

483
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Speaker 2: MVP season is held by show hey Otani, the most

484
00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:07,000
Speaker 2: remarkable player anyone has ever seen, and the second most

485
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:11,200
Speaker 2: strikeouts ever in an MVP season is held by show

486
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Speaker 2: hey Otani. And again, I'm just I try to point

487
00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:18,679
Speaker 2: this out on every episode, how hard it is to

488
00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:21,120
Speaker 2: get a hit these days. A hitting environment has never

489
00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:24,400
Speaker 2: been more difficult, and we always need to keep.

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Speaker 1: That in mind, no doubt, and dead that record is

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Speaker 1: like one hundred and eighty seven, right, something like that, nine.

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Speaker 2: Seven if memory serves.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, so I just double checked it.

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Speaker 2: That's correct.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's unbelievable.

496
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Speaker 2: That's unbelievable. Yes, all right, Jeff, onto the courchins. Okay,

497
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Speaker 2: you know these are my favorite things. I just love

498
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Speaker 2: to run through the box score. So Junior camon Aro

499
00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:55,160
Speaker 2: we've talked about many times as a Ray's incredibly young

500
00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:58,399
Speaker 2: power hitter with ridiculous power. Well, the other day he

501
00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:01,439
Speaker 2: made three errors in a game, struck out twice, and

502
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:04,600
Speaker 2: grounded into a double play. So I asked Frank from

503
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:07,439
Speaker 2: the Elias. He went back the last twenty years and

504
00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:10,320
Speaker 2: found only two guys that had ever made three errors

505
00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:14,840
Speaker 2: in a game, struck out twice and grounded it into

506
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Speaker 2: a double play in the same game. Hose Iglesias did

507
00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:19,800
Speaker 2: it in twenty twenty one. Dylan Moore did it in

508
00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:23,639
Speaker 2: two thousand and nineteen. And I'm still looking, Jeff for

509
00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:27,320
Speaker 2: what I call the reverse triple double, someone who has

510
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:31,080
Speaker 2: two errors, two grounded in the double plays, and two

511
00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:35,280
Speaker 2: strikeouts in one game. Kurt Babakua did it late seventies

512
00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:38,199
Speaker 2: and he's the only one that's ever done that. So

513
00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:40,600
Speaker 2: this is how pathetic I am, Jeff. When I read

514
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:43,680
Speaker 2: the box scores every morning with two dive Mountain Dews

515
00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:47,600
Speaker 2: by my side, I never ever forget to check. Did

516
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:51,560
Speaker 2: anyone have a reverse triple double last night? And it

517
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:54,760
Speaker 2: hasn't happened in fifty years? How about that?

518
00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:57,040
Speaker 1: But you're tracking it, you're waiting for it.

519
00:27:57,160 --> 00:28:01,240
Speaker 2: I'm tracking it right. So Daniel Sussak, who's a catcher

520
00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:04,879
Speaker 2: for the Giants. He's the brother of Andrew Susak, who

521
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:08,400
Speaker 2: also caught for the Giants a few years ago. And

522
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:10,840
Speaker 2: Daniel came up and went three for three in his

523
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:15,120
Speaker 2: Major league debut. I found this interesting. His first two

524
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:17,919
Speaker 2: at bats he saw one pitch in each at bat

525
00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:20,919
Speaker 2: and got a hit. So the first two pitches he

526
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,880
Speaker 2: saw in the major leagues he got a hit. So

527
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:27,240
Speaker 2: we actually tracked that. The last time that happened was

528
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Speaker 2: Ezekiel Tobar of the Rockies in twenty twenty two. And

529
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Speaker 2: then let's see if you can catch the interesting part

530
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:35,280
Speaker 2: of this that the other guy before that was Dylan

531
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Speaker 2: Ceese in twenty twenty one. You get it, Yeah, he

532
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:46,200
Speaker 2: is a pitcher. Pitcher Dylan Sees in twenty twenty one.

533
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:49,280
Speaker 2: You know, back when pitchers were still having the bat

534
00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:52,160
Speaker 2: in Nation League Ballparks, hit a single off Jeff Hoffman,

535
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:54,920
Speaker 2: who's now his teammate with the Blue Jays, and then

536
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:59,120
Speaker 2: hit a double off Jose de Leone. So in the

537
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:01,520
Speaker 2: last two guys to do that. One was a pitcher,

538
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:03,640
Speaker 2: Dylan Sees, who went three for three in that game,

539
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:06,240
Speaker 2: and the first two pictures he saw he got hits.

540
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:09,480
Speaker 2: I just love. I just love when pictures do crazy

541
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Speaker 2: things like that and we don't get to see it

542
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:13,040
Speaker 2: anymore because pictures don't get.

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00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:15,080
Speaker 1: To the moment of silence, moment of silence for the

544
00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 1: pitchers at bat.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Kygrie, we missed some great notes for that, right, Jeff.

546
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 2: The Braves had eleven different players with an RBI in

547
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:27,760
Speaker 2: one game the other day, eleven guys had at least

548
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:31,680
Speaker 2: one RBI since two thousand. The Red Sox in twenty

549
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:35,440
Speaker 2: eighteen on July seventh, are the only other team since

550
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 2: two thousand to have eleven different players with an RBI

551
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:44,120
Speaker 2: in a game. It's a pretty deep lineup, don't you think.

552
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:46,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, eleven different players. I mean, it's one thing to

553
00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:49,920
Speaker 1: have eleven players get a hit, right, because that's speaking

554
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:52,080
Speaker 1: volumes to you know what kind of day you had.

555
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:54,080
Speaker 1: But RBI's pretty good.

556
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Speaker 2: Yeah. Speaking of eleven, Jeff, the Yankees the other day

557
00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:01,760
Speaker 2: walked eleven times in a game against the Marlins, and

558
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 2: the Marlins had zero walks. So the last time it

559
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:09,720
Speaker 2: wasn't that long ago that a team walked eleven times

560
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:12,920
Speaker 2: and the other team walked zero times was the Tigers

561
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:16,320
Speaker 2: who had zero walks and the White Sox. No, the

562
00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:20,120
Speaker 2: Tiger pitchers walked zero and White Sox pitchers walked eleven

563
00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:22,720
Speaker 2: in the same game. Pretty big gap, don't you think,

564
00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:24,000
Speaker 2: eleven to zero, Jef?

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00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:26,960
Speaker 1: Huge gap at that point, all right.

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Speaker 2: As you know, Jeff, I love names. Dl Hall pitches

567
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:34,480
Speaker 2: for the Milwaukee Brewers. I am certain I'm the only

568
00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:37,000
Speaker 2: one on earth that cares about stuff like this. But

569
00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:40,360
Speaker 2: he had two wild pitches in a two inning relief appearance.

570
00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:43,360
Speaker 2: He's a good pitcher and he throws hard. But I'll

571
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:46,680
Speaker 2: never forget when I was growing up in Maryland, Dick

572
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:49,760
Speaker 2: Hall used to pitch for the Orioles, and he was

573
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:53,360
Speaker 2: a strike throwing machine, a late inning reliever, and he

574
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:57,520
Speaker 2: had one wild pitch in one two hundred and fifty

575
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Speaker 2: nine innings, one wild pitch in twelve hundred and fifty

576
00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:05,000
Speaker 2: nine innings and a guy with the same last name

577
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:08,200
Speaker 2: and the same initial The first Dame d Hall had

578
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:12,680
Speaker 2: two wild pitches in one in one two inning. Outing.

579
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Speaker 2: Am I taking this way too far? The answer is

580
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:15,800
Speaker 2: obvious yes.

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00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 1: No, well I mean in your standard, No, in the

582
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:23,160
Speaker 1: average household standard. Yes, you're taking it too far.

583
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:27,560
Speaker 2: Okay, very good now, Jeff, as you know, I love names.

584
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:31,160
Speaker 2: So we had a really nice starting pitching matchup the

585
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:36,280
Speaker 2: other day between Joe Boyle and Bailey over boil over,

586
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:38,080
Speaker 2: boil over all.

587
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:40,080
Speaker 1: Right, what about Louder rocker?

588
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker 2: Right right? We had a Red Louder against Kumar Rocker.

589
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:48,000
Speaker 2: Now the question, Jeff, is it Louder rocker or rocker Louder?

590
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:52,440
Speaker 2: You're a music guy. You you understand music way better

591
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:55,360
Speaker 2: than I do. What's the better way to put it? Louder?

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00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:59,240
Speaker 1: I think it's I think it's rocker Louder. You got

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00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:00,400
Speaker 1: a rocker.

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00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:05,320
Speaker 2: Let's go so, which which rocker is Louder? Bruce Sprigsteen

595
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:06,320
Speaker 2: or Steven Tyler.

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00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 1: That's a good question.

597
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:15,280
Speaker 2: Is that a really bad example? No?

598
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:17,040
Speaker 1: No, that was that was a good one. But I

599
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:19,960
Speaker 1: have one for you that could go both ways. Tonight's

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00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:24,120
Speaker 1: matchup the Phillies against the Giants. Is it a houser

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00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 1: painter or a painter houser.

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00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:30,120
Speaker 2: That's pretty good, Jeff. You're you're ahead.

603
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 1: Upon house painter hous er painter. You know it's it's close,

604
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:35,480
Speaker 1: but it works.

605
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:37,520
Speaker 2: All right. I'm a little worried about you, Jeff, but

606
00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:39,720
Speaker 2: this is the last quirt chen of the day, and

607
00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:42,600
Speaker 2: I'm really worried about me because you know what I

608
00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 2: love to do to look at line scores every day,

609
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:51,080
Speaker 2: line scores that look like telephone numbers. Okay, And I'm

610
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:53,120
Speaker 2: not going to tell you which game it is because

611
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:55,560
Speaker 2: it's intrusive. I could get in trouble. I don't want

612
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:58,600
Speaker 2: to get anybody in trouble. But I found a game

613
00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:01,520
Speaker 2: in the first, you know, ten days of the season

614
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:05,160
Speaker 2: where the line score looked like a telephone number. And

615
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:08,920
Speaker 2: get this, I called it game. We got to leave

616
00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:10,600
Speaker 2: it at that because I could get in trouble. It's

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00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:13,280
Speaker 2: a working number. It's a working number.

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00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:15,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I'm looking at it right now. I'm sorry,

619
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:19,080
Speaker 1: I'll bleep out what team? I said, Yeah, and you

620
00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:20,320
Speaker 1: did somebody pick up?

621
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Speaker 2: Uh no? It was like, well we'll no. I hung

622
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:26,840
Speaker 2: up as soon as it wasn't a you know, a

623
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Speaker 2: quick beep like beauty the phone number, Yeah, it was.

624
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:32,240
Speaker 2: It was bad So uh.

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00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:34,480
Speaker 1: Well, I mean and the area code, Dad, is one

626
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:35,760
Speaker 1: that you're familiar.

627
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:38,360
Speaker 2: With, right, that's kind of the point. We're not it's a.

628
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:40,880
Speaker 1: Home phone growing up. That's crazy.

629
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Speaker 2: This is all Peter Gammon's fault, the greatest baseball writer

630
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 2: of all times. Doing a game at Fenway Park, he

631
00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:49,720
Speaker 2: looks up and there's like a six one seven area code,

632
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:53,760
Speaker 2: the Boston area code, like in the first three innings.

633
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:55,960
Speaker 2: By the end of the game, he calls the number

634
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:58,600
Speaker 2: and it's the warehouse. He like got a working number

635
00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:02,240
Speaker 2: and actually spoke to somebody and he said, oh, sorry, sorry,

636
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:06,120
Speaker 2: the number was the line score tonight at Fenway Park.

637
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:08,440
Speaker 2: I love it. So I've been doing it that ever since.

638
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:11,160
Speaker 2: It's a really, really bad habit, and I have to stop.

639
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 1: On this date in baseball history, Dad, what do you have?

640
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:24,239
Speaker 2: Okay? Nineteen fifty one, Bert Blyleven was born. Now, what

641
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:28,720
Speaker 2: is the significance of Burt Blyleven on our podcast? Well,

642
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:31,400
Speaker 2: when it comes to the alphabet, he's the best be

643
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:36,040
Speaker 2: pitcher of all time. We established that last week. This

644
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:38,880
Speaker 2: week we're going to go to the greatest position player

645
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:42,080
Speaker 2: and greatest pitcher of all time with the letter C.

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Speaker 2: So if you want to work on that, I think

647
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Speaker 2: it's relatively easy, although nothing is really easy in this

648
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:52,160
Speaker 2: day and age. So yes, happy birthday to Burt Blyleven.

649
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:55,800
Speaker 2: On this date, in nineteen seventy three, the Pirates retired

650
00:34:55,920 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 2: Roberto Clemente's number twenty one, which we all know what happened,

651
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:04,839
Speaker 2: and how sad that is. Let's just be clear, Jeff.

652
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:08,960
Speaker 2: He's the greatest defensive right fielder of all time for me,

653
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 2: and he has the greatest throwing arm of any outfielder

654
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:16,960
Speaker 2: I've ever seen, and I will stand on that one.

655
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:20,960
Speaker 2: And few people hit the ball harder than Roberto Clemeny,

656
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:24,160
Speaker 2: and few people love to play the game more than

657
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 2: Roberto Clemeny. And do you remember what EDWARDO Perez said

658
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:29,720
Speaker 2: when he first got to the big leagues? What number

659
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:33,400
Speaker 2: they gave him.

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00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:33,919
Speaker 1: Roberto Clemene's number twenty one?

661
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 2: And what did he do? He gave it back. I

662
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:41,880
Speaker 2: can't wear this. I'm not worthy of wearing this number.

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Speaker 2: Typical EDWARDO Perez. All right, Jeff, nineteen seventy nine. On

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Speaker 2: this date, Earl Weaver won his one thousandth game. I

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00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:52,799
Speaker 2: can't say foudinth. By the way, can you say that

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00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:53,600
Speaker 2: word properly?

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00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:54,960
Speaker 1: Say one thousand?

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00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:57,359
Speaker 2: It's tough. It's tough, right.

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00:35:57,560 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 1: I don't even take me to a place that serves

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00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:03,120
Speaker 1: beer on tap. That makes it there a brewery.

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00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:07,960
Speaker 2: Oh, yes, you can retire. I have trouble with the

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Speaker 2: word one thousand. So Earl Weaver won game number one

673
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 2: thousand of his career. And the point is, Jim Palmer

674
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:19,719
Speaker 2: pitched that game, beat the White Sox five to three

675
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:22,920
Speaker 2: with a three hitter. And Jim Palmer is what Jeff.

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Speaker 1: Our guest on Tuesday tomorrow.

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00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 2: Right, we will be interviewing Jim Palmer tomorrow Monday or

678
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:34,280
Speaker 2: today Monday, and it will run on Tuesday. Jim Palmer

679
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:37,000
Speaker 2: tells some of the greatest stories of all time. And

680
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:40,000
Speaker 2: I believe he made his first opening I know he

681
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:43,560
Speaker 2: made his first opening day roster sixty years ago with

682
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:48,160
Speaker 2: the nineteen sixty six Orioles. He pitched in nineteen sixty

683
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 2: five at age nineteen. But we'll ask him about that.

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00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:54,840
Speaker 2: He's eighty years old now, Jeff, and he he looks

685
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:57,640
Speaker 2: so much better than I do. It's embarrassing, and he's

686
00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:00,279
Speaker 2: he's eleven years older than I am. He's also ten

687
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 2: thousand times better looking than I am, So all right,

688
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:07,520
Speaker 2: all right, all right. Nineteen eighty three, Thomas Diamond was

689
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:11,279
Speaker 2: born and he pitched. I know he pitched at least

690
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:15,200
Speaker 2: one game against Chris Sale, so we had the Diamond

691
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 2: Sale matchup. Always loved that.

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Speaker 1: Excellent.

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00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:23,440
Speaker 2: Yeah. Nineteen ninety three, Mitch Williams officially changed his uniform

694
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:27,880
Speaker 2: number from twenty eight to ninety nine and kind of

695
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:30,600
Speaker 2: half jokingly said, every pitch I throw for the rest

696
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 2: of my career, I want to throw at at least

697
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 2: ninety nine miles an hour, and he came close. Mitch

698
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:40,240
Speaker 2: was a very hard throwing and a very effective relief

699
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:42,880
Speaker 2: pitcher who had a little trouble with control. But I

700
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:47,919
Speaker 2: told you, Jeff, his brother, Bruce Williams, also pitched professionally

701
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:51,880
Speaker 2: in the Brewers organization. And he Mitch told me what

702
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:54,879
Speaker 2: said He and his brother, when they were like teenagers,

703
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:57,320
Speaker 2: like high school kids, would go out and play catch

704
00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:00,720
Speaker 2: in the front yard in the neighborhood. And he said

705
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:04,200
Speaker 2: that moms would come running out of their house and

706
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 2: scream to their children get off the streets, get in

707
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:15,040
Speaker 2: the house. The Williams boys are playing catch, so what's

708
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:17,799
Speaker 2: going to get hurt? That's how wild they were, so

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00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:21,239
Speaker 2: all right, Jeff little sad news on this date in

710
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:26,600
Speaker 2: twenty twenty one, Al Kayline died. Al Kline for me,

711
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:31,200
Speaker 2: for me after Roberto Clementi is the greatest defensive right

712
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:34,120
Speaker 2: fielder that I've ever seen. He has one of the

713
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:38,080
Speaker 2: greatest throwing arms of anyone I've ever seen in the

714
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:41,160
Speaker 2: outfield or anywhere else. He told me once he was

715
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:44,240
Speaker 2: a better basketball player than he was a baseball player

716
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:48,439
Speaker 2: in high school. And he won a batting championship at

717
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:51,520
Speaker 2: age twenty in the American League, and of course he

718
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:55,720
Speaker 2: got three thousand hits. Al Kayline one of the great

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Speaker 2: classy men of all time. Jeff, A few things made

720
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 2: me happy year than when I used to just wander

721
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:05,800
Speaker 2: into Tigertown and spring training and there's al ka Line

722
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:09,360
Speaker 2: just sitting there at his locker, and I would just

723
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:11,680
Speaker 2: go sit next to him and just talk to him

724
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:14,040
Speaker 2: about baseball, because I you know, I grew up watching

725
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:16,040
Speaker 2: I didn't grow up in Detroit, but I grew up

726
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 2: watching al k Line play. It was It was so

727
00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:22,480
Speaker 2: much fun. And last thing, Jeff. On this date in

728
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:26,799
Speaker 2: twenty thirteen, the Upton brothers Bjay and Justin Upton hit

729
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 2: home runs in the same inning as members of the

730
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:34,759
Speaker 2: Atlanta Braves. The last brothers to homer in the same

731
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:38,399
Speaker 2: inning were Billy and Cal Ripken in nineteen ninety six.

732
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:40,640
Speaker 2: So it had been seven years. But I think I

733
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:43,719
Speaker 2: told you this before, Jeff. I used to be the

734
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:47,479
Speaker 2: sideline reporter, the dugout reporter, before they I got moved

735
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:49,319
Speaker 2: up to the booth. Not the point. The point is

736
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:52,400
Speaker 2: I'm in the dugout in the Braves dugout in the

737
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:55,440
Speaker 2: middle of a game, and Justin Upton comes up to

738
00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:59,360
Speaker 2: me in the middle of the game and says, Tim, h,

739
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:02,880
Speaker 2: my brother and I were just wondering what size shoe

740
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:08,080
Speaker 2: do you wear? So I said, well, Justin, I wear

741
00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:10,799
Speaker 2: a seven and a half shoe and he just looked

742
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:13,759
Speaker 2: at me and he goes, man, that's really, that's really,

743
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:16,040
Speaker 2: you have really small feet, and then he walked away.

744
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:19,359
Speaker 2: That was it. So in the middle of a baseball game,

745
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:23,800
Speaker 2: these two brothers are have taken the time to wonder

746
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:27,640
Speaker 2: the dinky little sideline reporter at the end of the dugout.

747
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:30,759
Speaker 2: I wonder how small his feet are. How do you

748
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:34,120
Speaker 2: do you do you find that interesting at all? Jeff?

749
00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:36,520
Speaker 1: You know they were talking about you from across the

750
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:38,440
Speaker 1: dugout and they said, well, you ask him, no, you

751
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:40,960
Speaker 1: ask him no, you go ask him now.

752
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:41,879
Speaker 2: They got to figure it out.

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00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:43,400
Speaker 1: Of course, I.

754
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:46,560
Speaker 2: Got these gigantic hands and I've got these tiny feet.

755
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:47,640
Speaker 2: It's really weird.

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00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:50,279
Speaker 1: But none of that all we can do because I

757
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:52,479
Speaker 1: got I got the same hands and fingers shoe hats.

758
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:53,560
Speaker 1: So the only thing we can do.

759
00:40:53,600 --> 00:41:00,640
Speaker 2: Is it's claw with these fingernails for that listen.

760
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:03,880
Speaker 1: I don't pretend to be able to do any voices.

761
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:07,200
Speaker 1: It's like it's that one line from any given Sunday

762
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:10,279
Speaker 1: and then any line. Gilbert Gottfried ever said, I can

763
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 1: do an impression of maybe a little bit of Charlie

764
00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 1: Day from Always Sunny in Philadelphia, but that's it I have.

765
00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:20,080
Speaker 1: I am the worst impressionist, but I can do that line,

766
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:21,840
Speaker 1: and I just Gilbert Gottfried.

767
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:24,640
Speaker 2: Just give me the fingernails again one more time.

768
00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:33,799
Speaker 1: You crawl with your fingernails. Family Podcast.

769
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Speaker 2: But so we compared you on this podcast, Jeff to

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Speaker 2: Uh to uh, Jake Gillet Hall, Harrison Ford, and now

771
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:45,160
Speaker 2: al Pacino.

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Speaker 1: Do you want to I mean, do you want to

773
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:50,279
Speaker 1: hear my Gilbert Gottfried? Yes, of course this is this

774
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:54,400
Speaker 1: is h Gilbert Godfried's Iago in any scene in Aladdin.

775
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Speaker 5: Ready, Jeff, oh God, Jeff, you have gone off the

776
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:07,240
Speaker 5: rails on Easter Sunday.

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00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 1: I know, I know it's so bad. Okay, last one

778
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna do. My last one is the only one

779
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:15,040
Speaker 1: I have. This is Charlie, Charlie Days.

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00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:19,080
Speaker 2: He's so funny, he's so funny. Horrible bosses, horrible bosses.

781
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:24,360
Speaker 1: He's looking in the newspaper in the men seeking men's

782
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:27,279
Speaker 1: section because he thought that's we were seeking a man

783
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:29,920
Speaker 1: to kill one of our bosses. But it was, you know,

784
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:32,480
Speaker 1: for men who want the company of a man. So

785
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:36,560
Speaker 1: when he's trying to explain himself about why he used

786
00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:39,839
Speaker 1: that section, this is how he explained it. We are

787
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:47,680
Speaker 1: a man seeking a man's That's all I've got.

788
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:51,480
Speaker 2: That is that is That is pretty good. It's not

789
00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:53,920
Speaker 2: the funniest lie of the movie. The funniest lie is

790
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:57,480
Speaker 2: by Jason Sedeikis where they're talking about Jamie Fox with

791
00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:00,719
Speaker 2: that unusual nickname in the movie, which he woke over

792
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 2: and he says he didn't kill anyone like his biggest

793
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:07,120
Speaker 2: his biggest interraction as he pired in an Even Hall

794
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:14,399
Speaker 2: movie that was a wildly underrated comedy. It was really fun.

795
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:17,160
Speaker 2: And your Charlie Day, Jeff, is pretty darn good. I

796
00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:21,960
Speaker 2: must say. Next week I'll do my impersonation of Bob Shepherd,

797
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:25,440
Speaker 2: the old Pa guy for the Yankees. That's as far

798
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 2: as that's the only one I could do, and I

799
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:30,000
Speaker 2: won't do it ever again. Okay, I love it, I

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00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:30,960
Speaker 2: love it, all right, dad.

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00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:33,839
Speaker 1: Well, we have to wrap up with a team Tim, right, So.

802
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:37,960
Speaker 2: Well, he's kind of easy. This every week kind of easy, Jeff.

803
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:39,719
Speaker 2: And this is the goal every week to have a

804
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:42,080
Speaker 2: team Tim, not just once, but maybe even twice. So

805
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:45,680
Speaker 2: it's Easter Sunday when we're taping this, so it's gratuitous,

806
00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:48,839
Speaker 2: but we're gonna do the All Easter team. Okay. Our

807
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 2: catcher is Bunny Madden. I had to look that one up,

808
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:55,239
Speaker 2: of course, so good. The captain of the team is

809
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:58,920
Speaker 2: Luke Easter, the first baseman, that's his real name, and

810
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:03,319
Speaker 2: he was a good player too. Uh. Bobby Priest is

811
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:08,520
Speaker 2: our second baseman. Lave Cross is our third baseman, although

812
00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:12,760
Speaker 2: we could go with Mike Lamb if we wanted. Rabbit

813
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:16,640
Speaker 2: Moranville is the shortstop, even though it's much more of

814
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:21,280
Speaker 2: a bunny than a rabbit. JESU salute. Dan Patrick's favorite

815
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:28,840
Speaker 2: player is one outfielder. Angel Pagan is another. Ryan Church

816
00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:32,040
Speaker 2: is our third outfielder. And I'm going to use Jermaine

817
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:37,040
Speaker 2: Die as our DH even though he was a good

818
00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:41,920
Speaker 2: right fielder. Jermaine Die because we die eggs on Easter Sunday. Correct.

819
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:44,239
Speaker 1: I'm glad you went with that instead of that Jesus

820
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:45,400
Speaker 1: died for our sins.

821
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:48,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was a little bit dark, right, right, totally.

822
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:52,759
Speaker 2: And we've got Brad Lord as one of our pitchers.

823
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:58,000
Speaker 2: We have Tim Pew because I sat this morning in

824
00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:01,880
Speaker 2: church in a pew and preachure row. So that is

825
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:06,480
Speaker 2: my All Easter team. When you can start off with

826
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 2: Bunny Madden and Luke Easter, you're off to a good start.

827
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:11,920
Speaker 2: It slowed down a little bit after that, but we

828
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:15,280
Speaker 2: did the best we could on the All Easter Team.

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Speaker 1: I love it, Dad Well, I really enjoyed putting this

830
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:22,320
Speaker 1: episode together with you. I'm so excited we have Hall

831
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:26,560
Speaker 1: of Famer Jim Palmer on the podcast tomorrow and then

832
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:30,359
Speaker 1: again Dad in person for Thursday's episode. Well, we'll bring

833
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:32,840
Speaker 1: you more of Alpha Best and all of our great

834
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:35,920
Speaker 1: Thursday editions, including Game Changer of the Week.

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Speaker 2: Right, okay, Jeff, and again Jim Palmer won a World

836
00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:44,120
Speaker 2: Series game in three different decades. He won three cy

837
00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 2: Young Awards. He never gave up a Grand Slam and

838
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:52,279
Speaker 2: neither four nearly four thousand innings pitch so and he

839
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:55,719
Speaker 2: tells great stories. And I've known him forever. Cakes, this

840
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:57,960
Speaker 2: is his nickname. I can't call him Jim anymore. I

841
00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:00,239
Speaker 2: have called him Jim in twenty five years because the

842
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:02,600
Speaker 2: right time I look at him, I think he's cakes,

843
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:05,560
Speaker 2: because his nickname was pancakes, because he used to eat

844
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:09,439
Speaker 2: those before his starts. Now he's just cakes. And it's

845
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:12,720
Speaker 2: still just an honor for me to interview Jim Palmer

846
00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:15,160
Speaker 2: because he makes me think, he makes me laugh, and

847
00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:18,440
Speaker 2: his recall is absurdly amazing.

848
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 1: Well, let's do that tomorrow with Jim Palmer here on.

849
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:24,000
Speaker 1: It's a great game or what. Thank you for listening,

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00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:26,120
Speaker 1: as always, thank you for being a part of our family.