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Speaker 3: Oh baby, how's that film?

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Speaker 1: Here's Craig Griolu, Paul Calvic, and three time pro bowler

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Speaker 1: Kyle Vanmenbosch.

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Speaker 4: So here's the thing about the Red Sea Report. We

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Speaker 4: don't often take this show out of state, but when

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Speaker 4: we do, there's only room for one of the three

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Speaker 4: voices to leave Arizona, and that would be me. As

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Speaker 4: I say, good morning and welcome to Indianapolis side of

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Speaker 4: the twenty twenty five NFL Scott in Combine. Unfortunately, KVB,

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Speaker 4: you are stuck with Paul there in studio.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, they obviously they picked the smartest one to bring

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Speaker 5: with him. And also I was talking to Omo and

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Speaker 5: he said, you're gonna race Rich Eisen. He thinks you

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Speaker 5: can beat his all he can you can beat his

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Speaker 5: five nine seven. He said, you're sneaky athletic.

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Speaker 6: Is that right?

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Speaker 4: Sneaky athletic. I don't believe that it's a phrase that's

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Speaker 4: ever been used for me, So I appreciate that first

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Speaker 4: of all. Second of all, that would be that would

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Speaker 4: be a sight to see. I'm not sure what how

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Speaker 4: that would affect the ratings on the NFL network, but yeah,

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Speaker 4: that is that's something rich has done now for a

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Speaker 4: handful of years. Always great. But yeah, I don't I

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Speaker 4: know that might be a closer than you.

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Speaker 6: Would expect foot race, you know, Craig, I don't think

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Speaker 6: you want any of that smoke, honestly, Rich Eisen he's

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Speaker 6: worked on his get off over the year. You know,

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Speaker 6: you're a long strider, so it's true. Paully prop Bet

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Speaker 6: might put a few dollars on you, perhaps, but I

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Speaker 6: think just to get off Rich Eisen, he has been

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Speaker 6: schooled by some of the best, so his track start

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Speaker 6: would probably get you and you wouldn't be able to

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Speaker 6: make up that that lead he would take.

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Speaker 4: Believe a long stride. Wasn't that something that PAULI helped

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Speaker 4: me out? There was a Cardinals player, the Ajol Alright,

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Speaker 4: that's right, I mentioned, who's going to shorten up his

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Speaker 4: stride because you could get the quarterback quicker with many

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Speaker 4: more steps as opposed to longer steps.

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Speaker 6: No, when it comes to pass rushers, I like long

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Speaker 6: arm stab. That's what I prefer. Forget the long striders.

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Speaker 6: I want the long arm stab. That's my favorite pass

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Speaker 4: Perhaps all right, So for you, Paul, then you would

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Speaker 4: enjoy mel kiper Junior's mock draft that dropped earlier on

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Speaker 4: Tuesday because after going offensive guard with his one point zero,

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Speaker 4: his two point zero went with A and M defensive

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Speaker 4: end Shamar Stewarts, who doesn't really have the stats, but

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Speaker 4: he certainly has the measurables, and talking to people here

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Speaker 4: in Indianapolis, they expect him to really test well, which

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Speaker 4: maybe he wouldn't be available at number sixteen.

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Speaker 3: Great.

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Speaker 6: See this scares me. This excites me and scares me

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Speaker 6: at the same time. Guys, because if the Cardinals, for example,

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Speaker 5: It's always difficult, and you look at some of the

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Speaker 5: extremely elevate players. Some players are just playmakers. Some players

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Speaker 5: A lot of those things don't show up at the combine.

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Speaker 5: football players, hall of famers, pro Bowlers, all pros. They're

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Speaker 5: It all comes down to production, and quite frankly, that's

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Speaker 4: And it's the pressuring of the quarterback that when you

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Speaker 4: he does want to see this defense affect the quarterback

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Speaker 4: on a more consistent basis, maybe not with the sacks,

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's that's where the film comes in. Are these

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Speaker 5: scouting departments, the good gms that you know sixty seventy

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Speaker 4: League as far as the Cardinals and where they select

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Speaker 4: it is pick number sixteen. A year ago, the Cardinals

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Speaker 4: A little bit different of a story here this year.

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Speaker 4: They've got half as many picks, one in each of

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Speaker 4: But the challenge of picking sixteenth overall. GM Monti Austin

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Speaker 4: Ford late last week on Bickley and Marauda part of

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Speaker 7: We're in a little bit different situation than we have

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Speaker 7: the last two years, and you know, picking sixteen this year,

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Speaker 7: it's harder to predict who's going to be available at sixteen.

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Speaker 7: You know, the last two years that we were in

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Speaker 7: we were at four, and so you know, we had

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Speaker 7: Now it's you know, now, I think this draft more

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Speaker 7: I mean, even you know, there's a lot of talk

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Speaker 4: Now, speaking of the quarterback position, Paul, I have tried.

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Speaker 4: It's very early in the week, but I've tried to

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Speaker 4: see if we can't come up with a slogan for you,

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Speaker 4: because right now I think we're all in agreement that

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Speaker 4: there are two quarterbacks and Cam Warden Shooter Sanders. But

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Speaker 6: Yep, it's going to happen, Craig, It'll happen, all right.

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Speaker 6: Some teams need for a quarterback. Well, go ahead, and

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Speaker 6: it'll fuel the elevation of a quarterback that's not worthy

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Speaker 6: starts this Saturday. Isn't that when quarterbacks are gonna throw?

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Speaker 6: When somebody just goes down there and they show off

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Speaker 6: We just need to figure out exactly who's gonna kill

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Speaker 6: it at the combine where you are right now, TikTok,

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Speaker 6: it's a matter of time before somebody on air proves

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Speaker 6: to be supposedly the next great arm in this draft.

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Speaker 4: As of last check, cam Ward undecided on whether he

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Speaker 4: will work out at the combine. Shooter Sanders has already

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Speaker 4: said he will not throw at the combine and wait

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Speaker 4: until his pro day. Overall, this draft class, when you

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Speaker 4: talk about the twenty twenty five draft class, three hundred

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Speaker 4: and twenty nine prospects are here or were invited to

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Speaker 4: Indianapolis earlier on Tuesday. Had a chance to catch up

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Speaker 4: with NFL Networks Daniel Jeremiah what he sees with this

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Speaker 4: draft class here in twenty twenty five. It's a meat

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Speaker 8: It's a draft where you're finding starters, not stars, and

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Speaker 8: it is at the line of scrimmage that's where you're

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Speaker 8: gonna find guys, and to me, I look at differently

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Speaker 4: Red Sea Report. Well before we hit the drafts in April,

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Speaker 2: You have to Cook up the middle and he's tackled

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Speaker 3: Senior getting a little grease right there.

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Speaker 4: Correct me if I'm wrong, Paul, and I know you will,

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Speaker 6: You know what I would say, First off, if you

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Speaker 4: And you hope that continues because it's word of mouth,

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Speaker 7: We are going to be active in free agency. We

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Speaker 4: his goodbyes. Don't know that for a fact. But if

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Speaker 4: you lose that piece in the middle of your defense,

435
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Speaker 4: to Paul's point, you gotta find somebody to replace them.

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Speaker 6: No, you're exactly right.

437
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Speaker 5: And you know, we talk about impact players on defense

438
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Speaker 5: and how this team can really improve in that area.

439
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Speaker 5: You know, I think we have solid players across the board.

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Speaker 5: I think we have intelligent players. I think we have

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Speaker 5: good culture and good character players. But really, yeah, I mean,

442
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Speaker 5: it's it's kind of a cliche, but your mike backer

443
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Speaker 5: is the quarterback of the defense. He has to recognize checks,

444
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Speaker 5: he has to recognize motions, he has to get make

445
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Speaker 5: sure everybody's on the same page, Jim. You know, maybe

446
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Speaker 5: as important as anything else, he has to be your

447
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Speaker 5: emotional leader on that field.

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Speaker 6: He has to rally rally the troops.

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Speaker 5: When times get tough, or when you get down a score,

450
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Speaker 5: or when you need a big play. He is the

451
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Speaker 5: voice that everybody hears in that huddle. He is the

452
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Speaker 5: voice that calms down a team that's frantic at times.

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Speaker 5: He he and that's exactly what Kaiser White has been.

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Speaker 5: He has been everything that we had hoped he would be.

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Speaker 5: He has everything that you look for in a mike backer.

456
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Speaker 5: Now he's not necessarily just one of one. I mean,

457
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Speaker 5: there's a number of mic backers in this league that

458
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Speaker 5: can fill that role. But you know, it's it's hard

459
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Speaker 5: to dismiss the impact that he has had on not

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Speaker 5: just the defense, but this entire team since he has

461
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Speaker 5: been here. And and if he, you know, walks out

462
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Speaker 5: the door and goes somewhere else, whoever comes in and

463
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Speaker 5: fills that role as our Mike Backer is gonna have

464
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Speaker 5: some pretty big shoes to fill.

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Speaker 6: And here's the thing, Craig, when you look at the

466
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Speaker 6: fact Cardinals, who are preemptive, got ahead of the curve

467
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Speaker 6: and getting deals done with Jay, James Connor In, Buddha Baker,

468
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Speaker 6: and Xavin Collins. Maybe they tried with Kayzer White knowing

469
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Speaker 6: he's going to be a free agent, knowing his value,

470
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Speaker 6: knowing the kind of season he just turned in. It

471
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Speaker 6: was spectacular, But maybe the two sides couldn't come to

472
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Speaker 6: turns on a number. And maybe that's what Kaizer White meant.

473
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Speaker 6: They've already done the negotiation and maybe, guess what, He's

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Speaker 6: not in the Cardinals future.

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Speaker 4: At least maybe not right now. And guys have a

476
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Speaker 4: number in mind when they hit free agency, and sometimes

477
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Speaker 4: that number is not what they hear coming back because

478
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Speaker 4: with free agency, the free is not free when it

479
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Speaker 4: comes to dollars and cents. But will the Cardinals spend?

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Speaker 4: According to over the caap dot com, Cardinals have the

481
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Speaker 4: fourth most cap space and the cap just went up

482
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Speaker 4: or is reportedly going to go up twenty to twenty

483
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Speaker 4: five million in twenty twenty five. Owner Michael Bidwell last

484
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Speaker 4: week on Bickley and Marauda about the Cardinals plan in

485
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Speaker 4: free agency.

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Speaker 9: You're going to overpay free agency. That's just the act

487
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Speaker 9: life in the NFL. And so we got to see

488
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Speaker 9: who's out there and what the circumstances are. Man, he's

489
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Speaker 9: making all those decisions. He's got the you know, the

490
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Speaker 9: keys to the franchise in the football personnel and roster

491
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Speaker 9: building world, and so we have regular conversations about it.

492
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Speaker 9: And so we just got to see who's out there

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Speaker 9: and how they're going to fit in and make sure

494
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Speaker 9: we don't overpay by too much to where you're regretting

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Speaker 9: something down the line.

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Speaker 4: Yes, you have cap space, but to your point, Paul,

497
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Speaker 4: there's also resigning your own guys. And as we speak here,

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Speaker 4: GM Monny Austin Ford being asked questions by the assembled

499
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Speaker 4: media and the obvious question about Trey McBride and a

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Speaker 4: potential contract extension for him, and according to our colleague

501
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Speaker 4: Denny Surrek, the response was, Trey is a priority for us.

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Speaker 4: So that's another another wrinkle when it comes to free agency.

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Speaker 4: Would fancy, oh, there's seventy plus million of cap space. Well,

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Speaker 4: there's also guys that perhaps the Cardinals want to get

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Speaker 4: ahead of so they don't reach free agency.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, as far as Trey McBride goes, you've got to

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Speaker 6: figure a deal as co, and it's coming pretty soon

508
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Speaker 6: at least in terms of this offseason. There is still

509
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Speaker 6: upside you get ahead of the curve. With Trey McBride.

510
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Speaker 6: I think this was his breakout season and guess what,

511
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Speaker 6: based on his youth, his competitive fire, the athleticism, the

512
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Speaker 6: inability of teams to truly find a solution for Trey McBride,

513
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Speaker 6: he's just going to continue to be more valuable to

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Speaker 6: your operation. So many Austin Fort's aware of that, and

515
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Speaker 6: you know there's going to be at least one big

516
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Speaker 6: dollar figure this offseason, and it figures to be Trey

517
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Speaker 6: mcpaid by the time we get to training camp.

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Speaker 4: And also got to keep that salary cap available to

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Speaker 4: re sign like Kyle Vannibasch as well, another big ticket

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Speaker 4: item that has really proved really dividends for us here

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Speaker 4: on the Cardinals radio network.

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Speaker 5: There, Kyle, those checks must be getting lost in the

523
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Speaker 5: mail because I haven't been getting those big ticket checks

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Speaker 5: that you're referring to.

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Speaker 4: So Paul's intercepted them as though he must.

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Speaker 5: Be that's why he's got that fancy car in the

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Speaker 5: parking lot there.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, there is a reason I'm the one guy who

529
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Speaker 6: still goes into the branch, you know, because you know,

530
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Speaker 6: kbb's old school, you know, with the UH doesn't go

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Speaker 6: with a direct deposit. Makes it a little tougher, you know.

532
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Speaker 6: I can't really go the crypto route or bitcoin to

533
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Speaker 6: But by the way, Jonah Williams Manias Aboards saying moments

534
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Speaker 6: ago that the Cardinals are looking forward to having him

535
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Speaker 6: back next year at right tackle, but no real update

536
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Speaker 6: other than he's progressing well from the late season knee injury.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, someone that was heard at the start of the

538
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Speaker 4: season and hurt again at the end of the season.

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Speaker 4: As we continue here on the Cardinals Red Sea Report,

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Speaker 4: once GM Monti Austin Forts is done speaking to the media,

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Speaker 4: we will hear what he had to say. Danny s

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Speaker 4: Rec will join us in the second half of the

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Speaker 4: show as we continue live from the Scutting Combine and

544
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Speaker 4: Idianapolis here on the Arizona Cardinals Radio Network.

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Speaker 2: Let's do Wolf Now, let's start out, as Jack Nicholson.

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Speaker 10: You give me a ground pounder and three dirt liquors

547
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Speaker 10: and we'll get it in every time.

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Speaker 4: You don't interrupt me.

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Speaker 10: This is too good for this. Let your dirt liquors

550
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Speaker 10: do what they do. Come off the ball and let

551
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Speaker 10: the ground pounder stick it in.

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Speaker 4: There is only one Frank Caliendo on a recent edition

553
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Speaker 4: of The Day Pash podcast. If you want more, visit

554
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Speaker 4: Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or you can find that entire Frank

555
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Speaker 4: Caliendo interview on the Cardinals official YouTube page. Go to

556
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Speaker 4: YouTube dot com. Forward slash a Z Cardinals and we

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Speaker 4: talk about dirt liquors. That means Skyle. We are talking

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Speaker 4: about the line of scrimmage, whether that is the offensive

559
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Speaker 4: line or the defensive line. And when you think about

560
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Speaker 4: going into twenty twenty five, both lines of scrimmage, whether

561
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Speaker 4: it's the offensive line or defensive line, going to have

562
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Speaker 4: brand new position coaches. Justin Frye is the new offensive

563
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Speaker 4: line coach, and Winston del about there is the new

564
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Speaker 4: d line coach. We could just call him coach Debo

565
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Speaker 4: for short. In fact, that's what he insisted when he

566
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Speaker 4: met the media late last week. But this line of

567
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Speaker 4: scrimmage certainly appears to be the focal point of the offseason,

568
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Speaker 4: whether that's free agency of the draft or now all

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Speaker 4: of a sudden, Hey, these are rooms that we might

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Speaker 4: see sifferent because there are different voices leading those respective rooms.

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Speaker 11: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, an offensive line coach, particularly when they're

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Speaker 5: new and they come into a room, and a defensive

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Speaker 5: line coach when he comes from a different place, They've

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Speaker 5: got a little bit different philosophies that are wired different ways.

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Speaker 5: They look for different things and different players. They understand

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Speaker 5: what they can get from different body types. But in

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Speaker 5: the end, you know, listening to both of their press conferences,

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Speaker 5: you know they're gonna fit in very well with this

580
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Speaker 5: Arizona Cardinals team. They matched the philosophy of this team

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Speaker 5: of being tough, being strong, being physical, being disciplined, and

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Speaker 5: you know, just talking about the offensive line in general,

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Speaker 5: you know, and listening to Daniel Jeremi and talking about

584
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Speaker 5: how you can't have a tomato can on that offensive line.

585
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Speaker 5: You've got to have five guys, you can't have a weakness.

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Speaker 5: It's it's what defensive coordinators, defensive line coaches look for

587
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Speaker 5: in film. The first thing they look for is which

588
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Speaker 5: guy is going to be a turnstile in the passing game?

589
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Speaker 5: Which guy is a liability in the run game. So

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Speaker 5: not only is it important that you get those five starters,

591
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Speaker 5: you've got to have depth. You've got to have the

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Speaker 5: swing guy that can back up both tackles. You've got

593
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Speaker 5: to have somebody that can play the three interior positions,

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Speaker 5: because in a seventeen game season, and frankly, either in

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Speaker 5: free agency or draft, likely in the in the terms

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Speaker 5: of this young player or this veterans contract, it might

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Speaker 5: flip to eighteen games and and it you know, it's

598
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Speaker 5: almost an impossibility for a Trench player to stay healthy

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Speaker 5: for those you know, when I played, it was sixteen

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Speaker 5: and then now at seventeen, and you're gonna if you're

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Speaker 5: gonna add that eighteenth game, you need depth. And again,

602
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Speaker 5: you know, it's been talked about a ton, and it's

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Speaker 5: probably gonna be talked about until next season starts. But

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Speaker 5: you look at what the Philadelphia Eagles did. They they

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Speaker 5: they managed injuries in the playoffs to their offensive line.

606
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Speaker 5: They had depth on their defensive line. They rolled fresh

607
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Speaker 5: players in the ball game almost on a not down

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Speaker 5: by down, but every series they had fresh pass rushers

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Speaker 5: that were able to come on the field to present

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Speaker 5: problems for Kansas City's offensive line. And anybody they face

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Speaker 5: in the playoffs. So you can never have too many,

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Speaker 5: you know, good offensive linemen. You can never have too

613
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Speaker 5: many impact defensive linemen. And and you've got to think that.

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Speaker 5: You know, we know that that's the way mantiasa Ford thinks.

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Speaker 5: But we also know that again just seeing what happened

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Speaker 5: in this playoffs and seeing you know the history of

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Speaker 5: NFL playoffs and what dominant offensive lines and defensive lines

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Speaker 5: can do late in the season. It's it's gonna be

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Speaker 5: a priority for almost every team in the National Football League.

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Speaker 6: When I hear Daniel Jeremiah tell you that you don't

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Speaker 6: need four offensive linemen, you need all five. I think

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Speaker 6: of the game the loss at Seattle where Leonard Williams

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Speaker 6: big Cat, absolutely wrecked the game and he basically feasted

624
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Speaker 6: on the Cardinals two starting guards. And so with Maniyasin

625
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Speaker 6: Ford building this team in the offseason, yes, you have

626
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Speaker 6: to address that. Now. Isaiah Adams, I think as a

627
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Speaker 6: sleeper is your low key figure to maybe make the

628
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Speaker 6: biggest jump of any rookie from year one to year two.

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Speaker 6: I think he really finished strong, and once he does

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Speaker 6: get stronger, I could really see him playing a pivotal role.

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Speaker 6: But I'm guessing Mania Siborne is out there looking for

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Speaker 6: a veteran, proven, established starting interior offensive line and he

633
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Speaker 6: can put it either left or right guard plug in play,

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Speaker 6: especially considering what you have to go against in this division.

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Speaker 4: Again, the new man in that position room coaching the

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Speaker 4: offensive line. Justin Fry we heard him late last week.

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Speaker 4: We also heard him recently on The Big Red Rage

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Speaker 4: talking about what he wants to see from his guys

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Speaker 4: up front.

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Speaker 12: The beautiful thing about offensive line play is it's the

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Speaker 12: only thing left in the world where you can take

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Speaker 12: someone and move them against their will and push them

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Speaker 12: around and be physical and not get in trouble for it.

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Speaker 12: That's got to be a mindset like we're gonna take

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Speaker 12: this guy and we're gonna move this guy, or we're

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Speaker 12: gonna protect this guy and no one's touching our quarterback.

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Speaker 12: And so you need to sense and see that from

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Speaker 12: guys that when they're playing the game, they're not trying

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Speaker 12: to be precise or exact, but at the end of

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Speaker 12: the day, my man's not making a play.

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Speaker 4: Certainly love to hear that, Paul, and I think it

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Speaker 4: does help that Justin. Yeah, he's a new voice. But

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Speaker 4: when you look at what some connections in that offensive

654
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Speaker 4: line room, having coached Paris Johnson junior at Ohio State,

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Speaker 4: having coached John Gains at UCLA, there's some familiarity, and

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Speaker 4: I do think it's gonna be maybe an easier transition

657
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Speaker 4: going from college to the NFL for someone like Justin Fry,

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Speaker 4: who was heavily coveted amongst several NFL teams, who as

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Speaker 4: we were getting word that he was looking to leave

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Speaker 4: Ohio State.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, at forty one years of age, I think he's

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Speaker 6: going to relate real well to these offensive linemen. He's

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Speaker 6: a guy who played at a high level, started a

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Speaker 6: lot of games in the Big Ten for Indiana. Said

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Speaker 6: he has a really hands on style of teaching. He

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Speaker 6: told us he's gonna get into the drills. He's gonna

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Speaker 6: demonstrate in his opinion, he thinks that offensive linemen need

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Speaker 6: to be able to quote sense and feel that toughness

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Speaker 6: from their coach, their position, coach end quote. So it's

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Speaker 6: gonna be interesting to watch. It's gonna be a real

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Speaker 6: hands on type of teaching style, and we're gonna get

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Speaker 6: a load of it at training camp. If nothing else

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Speaker 6: on the other.

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Speaker 4: Side of the line, the new defensive line coach Paul

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Speaker 4: You had a chance to catch up with coach Debo

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Speaker 4: on what he wants to see or what he likes

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Speaker 4: to see in a good defensive lineman.

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Speaker 11: I could talk about all these intangibles and having an

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Speaker 11: eighty one inch wingspan and having this and having that.

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Speaker 11: But at the end of the day, if they're not

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Speaker 11: playing with motor and violence, right, then they're not a racers.

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Speaker 11: And I think that erasers are the guys that are

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Speaker 11: able to really stamp their name on the game. That

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Speaker 11: was something that's always been big with me because I'm

685
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Speaker 11: not the biggest guy. I'm not the strongest guy, but

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Speaker 11: I was gonna play until my heart was gonna explode

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Speaker 11: because I knew that that was my deficit, that I

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Speaker 11: wasn't the most talented. Now you pair that with these

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Speaker 11: guys like Darius, Sure right, You let that dude go

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Speaker 11: play with motor and violence. Lord help whoever is in

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Speaker 11: his way.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, listen to both of those coaches there, Kyle, whether

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Speaker 4: it's Justin Frye or Deebo. And you hear Jonathan Gennon,

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Speaker 4: you hear Nick Rulis, When you hear moving guys against

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Speaker 4: their will or the motor and violence that you need

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Speaker 4: to be able to play with at the line of scrimmage.

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Speaker 4: So very easy to see why those are the two

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Speaker 4: new faces in those respective rooms.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and position coaches, particularly offensive line defensive line, you've

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Speaker 5: got to bring energy every day. You've got to bring

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Speaker 5: that type of attitude. You've got to be an example

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Speaker 5: of the type of attitude you want your players to bring,

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Speaker 5: not just to the game field on Sundays, but to

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Speaker 5: the practice field every week. And look, I was blessed

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Speaker 5: with defensive line coaches late in my career that were

706
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Speaker 5: wired that way that you know, when you come into meetings,

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Speaker 5: it was business and when he got on that practice field,

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Speaker 5: it's us against the world. And you know, between training

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Speaker 5: camp practices, you know, this is seems like a million

710
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Speaker 5: years ago. But I would have to get ivs because

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Speaker 5: I was dehydrated, and it was almost every time when

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Speaker 5: we had a true two a day practice, and I

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Speaker 5: would look over at the table next to me, my

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Speaker 5: d line coach was getting an IV too, because he

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Speaker 5: was out on that practice field yelling and screaming and

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Speaker 5: running around as much as any of the players were.

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Speaker 5: And so you know, to have that type of voice,

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Speaker 5: to have that type of mentor where he's not just

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Speaker 5: telling you what to do most times, he's showing you

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Speaker 5: what to do and how to do it, and how

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Speaker 5: to approach the game. And to have a love and

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Speaker 5: have a passion every single day of the week and

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Speaker 5: in order to be a difference maker in order to

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Speaker 5: be that eraser that he's talking about. That's how you

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Speaker 5: have to approach this game. You can't just you know,

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Speaker 5: have days where you roll your helmet out on the

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Speaker 5: field and say, yeah, I'm gonna take today off. Today

728
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Speaker 5: is gonna be an easy day. I'm just going to

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Speaker 5: go through the motions today. You've got to constantly work

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Speaker 5: on your craft of that is, you work on your

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Speaker 5: mental mindset. And you can't just flip that light switch

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Speaker 5: of hey, I didn't practice hard this week. You know,

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Speaker 5: I kind of walked through things and went through the

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Speaker 5: motions and I'm gonna go out there and dominate on Sundays.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 5: There is a handful of people on this planet that

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Speaker 5: have that ability, but there's very few. And to have

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Speaker 5: consistency and to not have off games and to always

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Speaker 5: affect the quarterback and to be able to finish out

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Speaker 5: games late and fourth quarters. You've got to have a

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Speaker 5: coach that inspires you and brings the best out of

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Speaker 5: you like he does.

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Speaker 6: And it was interesting. Coach Deebo said that Jonathan Gannon

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Speaker 6: is one piece of advice so far and making the

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Speaker 6: transition from the college coaching game to now the NFL,

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Speaker 6: is don't hesitate to be who you are, bring your energy,

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Speaker 6: and do not fail your room by failing to get

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Speaker 6: after guys. And so he's encouraging coach Debo to do that, who,

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Speaker 6: by the way, at age twenty seven, says he's not

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Speaker 6: going to hesitate to get into drills himself. He's going

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Speaker 6: to be very interactive and hands on and he's going

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Speaker 6: to be out. They're demonstrating and getting on all four.

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Speaker 6: So once again, I think there's gonna be some performance

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Speaker 6: coaching going on in Cardinals training camp.

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Speaker 4: And Debo younger than many of the guys in his

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Speaker 4: own room. Kyle, I have you ever had a position

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Speaker 4: coach who was younger than you as a player.

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Speaker 5: My d line coach for Detroit was two days older

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Speaker 5: than me, so he was older than me. He said

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Speaker 5: those two days made him much wiser than I was,

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Speaker 5: which I guess I have to defer to that.

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Speaker 4: out here in Indianapolis, the twenty twenty five scouting combine,

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Speaker 4: as we mentioned GM Monty Austin Ford, taking questions and

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Speaker 4: providing answers. While one of those people asking the questions,

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Speaker 4: Danny Shrek, She'll join us, join me here in Indianapolis,

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Speaker 4: the two of you, paulk al vc kam Manibash Studio.

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Speaker 4: As we continue here on the Arizona Cardinals Radio.

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Speaker 2: Network, Murray takes the shotgun, snap back the throw now

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Speaker 2: a lob near side. Poor mccride in the corner makes

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Speaker 2: the catch for the touchdown.

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Speaker 3: All that what's been reseet good right there from Kyler Murray.

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Speaker 3: And that was a tear drop a dime.

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Speaker 2: Murray to throw a fade right side of the end zone.

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Speaker 2: I'm the money to Marvin Harrison Junior.

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Speaker 3: Touchdown.

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Speaker 2: What a throw by Murray cats his fourth touchdown pass,

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Speaker 2: tying a career high.

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Speaker 3: Kyler Murray put it out there, and Marvin Harrison Junior

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Speaker 3: went and got it.

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Speaker 2: Tex fits and let him know that Marvin Harrison Junior

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Speaker 2: just tied his rookie record. That's eight touchdown catches, tying

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Speaker 2: it with an Kwon Bolden and Larry for most touchdown

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Speaker 2: catches by a rookie and team histery twenty.

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Speaker 4: One total touchdown passes thrown by Kyler Murray in twenty

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Speaker 4: twenty four to ten of which went to either Trey

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Speaker 4: McBride or Marvin Harrison Junior. As we say, welcome back,

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Speaker 4: it is the Cardinals Red Sea reports Craig Realu here

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Speaker 4: live in Indianapolis out of the twenty twenty five NFL

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Speaker 4: scouting combine, Paul Calvec Covin and Bosh back in studio,

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Speaker 4: and as promise, also joining him as me here in

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Speaker 4: Indy is Stanny Sirek, who, as we referenced a couple

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Speaker 4: of different times during the course of the show, we

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Speaker 4: heard from GM Monty Austin Fords late last week on

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Speaker 4: Newsmakers Week. We also or you did just here from

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Speaker 4: Mani moments ago, taking questions and providing some answers from

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Speaker 4: the media. And one of those questions, as we hear

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Speaker 4: the day patched on by from Kyler Murray, was about

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Speaker 4: the potential of maybe, well, right now there's only two

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Speaker 4: quarterbacks in the room, so someone has got to be

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Speaker 4: added to that QB room first.

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Speaker 13: And foremost you will need a body that is common

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Speaker 13: to have three quarterbacks. So that's not an alarm going

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Speaker 13: off when Awesome Ford is talking about the possibility of

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Speaker 13: adding somebody into that position room that makes that's not

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Speaker 13: saying that somebody's going to come in and take away

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Speaker 13: the starting role from Kyler Murray. It's about competition and

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Speaker 13: that's not just in the quarterbacks room. That is in

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Speaker 13: every room. That's something we have heard from Austin for it.

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Speaker 13: That's something we have seen in the moves that have

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Speaker 13: been made over the last couple of years. So I

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Speaker 13: would expect to see a body is that free agency,

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Speaker 13: is that through the draft. That's still up in the

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Speaker 13: air at the moment. I do think that that is

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Speaker 13: good to have competition of with Clayton Tune as your

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Speaker 13: backup quarterback. And also if it is somebody who's a

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Speaker 13: veteran that could still be helpful for Murray of a

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Speaker 13: different set of eyes and what you're seeing from a defense,

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Speaker 13: So it will be beneficial whenever they do out of body.

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Speaker 13: That is something that is going to happen, and it

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Speaker 13: shouldn't sound alarm bells for anybody when that does happen.

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Speaker 4: Paul, I know you were monitoring social media and trying

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Speaker 4: to get as much information.

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Speaker 13: On social media.

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Speaker 4: Hey, you know what he's big on X or Twitter

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Speaker 4: or Instagram, Facebook, I mean TikTok.

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Speaker 6: I have burner accounts. I just hide behind the burner accounts.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you don't put yourself out soar up front for everybody.

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Speaker 6: So what I saw and Danny you can confirm or

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Speaker 6: deny the GM was getting pepper with Trey McBride. Questions, right,

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Speaker 6: what did we learn about the off season extension potentially

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Speaker 6: for the Cardinals Pro Bowl tight end.

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Speaker 13: Austoin Fort was very forthcoming, saying that McBride is a

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Speaker 13: priority and they would quote love to extend him. McBride

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Speaker 13: similar to a Buddha Baker or James Connor who earned

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Speaker 13: in season contract extensions as a player who prepares the

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Speaker 13: right way, produces on the field, and does everything that

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Speaker 13: they want out of these players in that building. And

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Speaker 13: McBride is incredibly deserving. You know, I know, I just

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Speaker 13: put the headset of I'm sure you guys have been

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Speaker 13: talking about just how deserving he is and the play

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Speaker 13: that he puts out there, and when you're not even

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Speaker 13: looking at the receiving touchdown numbers, looking at the rest

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Speaker 13: of his stats using the eye test, he is what

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Speaker 13: drives this offense. It was going through If it's not

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Speaker 13: going through Connor, then it's going through McBride at least

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Speaker 13: in the passing game. And so McBride is very deserving.

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Speaker 13: Austin Ford was very forthcoming with that there is no

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Speaker 13: timeline on an extension, although that would be nice to

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Speaker 13: have certainty going into this the rest of the offseason

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Speaker 13: and then into next season to already have you were

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Speaker 13: starting starting tight end locked up and making sure he's

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Speaker 13: not going to hit free agency this time next year.

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Speaker 4: And Kyle, we've seen going back to training camp, whether

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Speaker 4: it was Zavian Collins or you'll to Froholt, then James Connor,

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Speaker 4: Buddha Baker, hal Manti, austin Ford and this front office

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Speaker 4: values if you've got a player already in the building,

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Speaker 4: don't let them hit free agency, prioritizing your own guys

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Speaker 4: that you know can contribute and have a major influence,

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Speaker 4: whether that's offense or defense.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that's how good organizations are run. You

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Speaker 5: find out who fits your culture and who leads your culture.

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Speaker 5: Who is your culture, And that's Trey McBride, that's James Connor,

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Speaker 5: that's Xavin Collins. The guys that you know, put on

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Speaker 5: their hard hats, come to work, do the right thing,

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Speaker 5: lead the younger players and what is still a relatively

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Speaker 5: young roster full of young talent and you know, just

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Speaker 5: a large number of recent draft picks. They still need

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Speaker 5: that leadership, that need those guys in the building. But

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Speaker 5: on top of that, you know Trey McBride's production, what

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Speaker 5: he does to this with for this offense, as Danny

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Speaker 5: was referring.

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Speaker 3: To, And.

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Speaker 5: You know, the the hard thing to even come to

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Speaker 5: grips with is you feel like he's he's still as

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Speaker 5: sending and having one of the best historical seasons certainly

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Speaker 5: for Arizona Cardinal tight ends, but for tight ends in

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Speaker 5: general in the National Football League that has a long

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Speaker 5: list of Hall of Fame tight ends and impact tight ends.

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Speaker 5: And for him to do what he did and to

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Speaker 5: think that he is still improving and he can be

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Speaker 5: a bigger part of this offense. He can improve his

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Speaker 5: game in different areas. You don't want him to leave.

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Speaker 5: You know, the worst thing for a locker room and

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Speaker 5: for a front office is when you let a player

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Speaker 5: walk and he flourishes other places. And you want to

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Speaker 5: keep Trey McBride because he is what your team is

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Speaker 5: all about. But probably more important as is impact on

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Speaker 5: Sundays and what he does for this offense and for

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Speaker 5: this team.

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Speaker 13: Not just talking about extensions and with McBride, but when

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Speaker 13: you're talking about Kyle of not letting players walk out

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Speaker 13: of the building and be successful elsewhere. Austin Fort was

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Speaker 13: very honest when talking about the priority to re sign

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Speaker 13: some of the current players who are expected to hit

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Speaker 13: free agency here in the next couple of days. He

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Speaker 13: did make it clear, you know, it takes two to

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Speaker 13: make a deal, but similar to what we have seen

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Speaker 13: with these contract extensions of it's very clear this front

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Speaker 13: office if they feel that you are the right piece

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Speaker 13: here and you fit what they want culturally and out

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Speaker 13: on the football field, they have no problem giving you

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Speaker 13: a deal.

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Speaker 4: And a number of those free agents to be on

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Speaker 4: the offensive line real quick I know fans are going

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Speaker 4: to want to hear Jonah Williams. What kind of an

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Speaker 4: update after the injury late in the season.

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Speaker 13: There was no update on the injury itself, although Austin

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Speaker 13: Fort did want to point out how underrated it was

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Speaker 13: that Williams was able to come back from his injury

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Speaker 13: and play at the level he did. He gave props

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Speaker 13: to Williams.

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Speaker 4: There, good stuff, excellent stuff. Danny appreciate it. Paul Kyle,

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Speaker 4: I'll see you next week.

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Speaker 6: All right, keep the good coverage coming from the combine.

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Speaker 6: You know, we'll put in our bid to A ten

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Speaker 6: next year. I guess stretch those semis.

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Speaker 4: We'll see if it gets approved. Hey, special, thanks everyone

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Speaker 4: behind the scenes. Jim Mamhundro, Coody Fitcher, Matt Lazarus for

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Speaker 4: Ky Vanderbosch, Paul COWBC, Dannis Rick. I'm Craig Real Lou.

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Speaker 4: It is caught by McBride.

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Speaker 2: Hey, it's a touchdown boot a Baker with the sack

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Speaker 2: strip the ball. Hurry's gonna score touchdown?

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Speaker 3: Oh baby.

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