WEBVTT - Executive Disorder: White House Weekly #36

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<v Speaker 1>Old media.

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<v Speaker 2>Happy g October everybody.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, shut the fuck up, we can't.

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<v Speaker 2>This is that could happen here? Executive Disorder, our weekly

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<v Speaker 2>newscast covering what's happening in the White House, the crumbling world,

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<v Speaker 2>and what it means for you. I'm Garrison Davis to

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<v Speaker 2>joint by Mio Wong, Jamestown and Robert Evans. This episode

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<v Speaker 2>recovering the week of September twenty first to October first.

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<v Speaker 1>And what a week it was.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it does not feel like it should be October,

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<v Speaker 2>but who cares. I guess the government's shut down right now,

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<v Speaker 2>So all of the dozens of anarchists around the country

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<v Speaker 2>are rejoicing, uh huh, as the Senate has failed to

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<v Speaker 2>pass a short term funding bill.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right, everyone, we did it. We defeated the state

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<v Speaker 1>using the power of the state.

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<v Speaker 3>State.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, many such cases. As the governments shut down, Trump

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<v Speaker 2>is threatening mass layoffs, and Republicans are framing this whole

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<v Speaker 2>shot down as being caused by Democrats who are trying

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<v Speaker 2>to defend health care for quote unquote illegals, which isn't real.

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<v Speaker 2>Undocumented immigrants do not get federal health care. That's not

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<v Speaker 2>even what the Democrats are fighting for. Would be cool

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<v Speaker 2>if they were would be cool if the theory of

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<v Speaker 2>this country you could just get health care, that sounds nice.

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<v Speaker 2>Wouldn't that be a cool, almost utopian place to live.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's not what's happening. And the rights confronted with this,

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<v Speaker 2>but they just do not care. Here's a Mike Johnson,

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<v Speaker 2>Speaker of the House on CNN having a little debate

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<v Speaker 2>about this.

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<v Speaker 4>If that counterproposal was enacted, is illegal aliens would be

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<v Speaker 4>paid for American taxpayers hard earned dollars would be paying

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<v Speaker 4>for benefits for illegal aliens. Again, we're not doing that.

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<v Speaker 3>But it's against federal law for people who are here illegally.

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<v Speaker 4>To get yes, and that's why our reforms are so

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<v Speaker 4>important to enforce all that. The important thing.

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<v Speaker 5>To remember is that the Democratic proposal that people who

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<v Speaker 5>are here illegally again.

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<v Speaker 4>Because they don't have the level of specification that we

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<v Speaker 4>had in our bill, it will unwind that and all

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<v Speaker 4>those things that the CBO just verified will be reversed.

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<v Speaker 4>We can't afford to do.

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 4>No, that is a red hearing in this in this debate.

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<v Speaker 2>So what the Democrats are actually doing right now is

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<v Speaker 2>they're trying to extend the current currently enacted federal subsidies

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<v Speaker 2>for the Affordable Care Act, which keeps millions of people

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<v Speaker 2>able to access healthcare. And Democrats are also trying to

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<v Speaker 2>reverse some of the federal health care cuts, including to Medicaid,

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<v Speaker 2>which happened under the One Big Beautiful Bill earlier this year.

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<v Speaker 2>That is what they're actually fighting for. The White House

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<v Speaker 2>is retruthing and retweeting proposals from the Democrats that include

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<v Speaker 2>health care for aliens. But that's legal aliens, that's like

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<v Speaker 2>legal documented residents, and they're framing this as health care

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<v Speaker 2>for quote unquote illegals.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a it's a bad faith representation, as it always is.

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<v Speaker 3>Like people can go all the way back to the

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<v Speaker 3>episode that I made with Robin Sophie last year about

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<v Speaker 3>what Trump might do to learn more about the public

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<v Speaker 3>charge rule and how that pertain to people who are

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<v Speaker 3>not US citizens. I don't think we really have the time, Noise,

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<v Speaker 3>this the place to go over that here, But there

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<v Speaker 3>is not, and there has never been a massive federal

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<v Speaker 3>free health care plan for undocumented people. In fact, people

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<v Speaker 3>who are undocumented are not going to see the doctor

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<v Speaker 3>right now because of the persistent and untrue rumor that

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<v Speaker 3>ICE are taking people from hospitals. That is not something

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<v Speaker 3>I'm aware of ever happening. Ice do take people who

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<v Speaker 3>are already in their custody to hospitals, and they will

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<v Speaker 3>wait for those people while those people are treated. That

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<v Speaker 3>it's not the same as entering the hospital and grabbing

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<v Speaker 3>people based on the immigration status. And I'm aware of

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<v Speaker 3>several cases where people whose life was genuinely in danger

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<v Speaker 3>were afraid to go and seek medical attention because they

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<v Speaker 3>were afraid that they would be targeted for their immigration status.

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<v Speaker 2>So we'll see how long this government shut down last.

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<v Speaker 2>The last one start on twenty eighteen, lasted thirty five days.

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<v Speaker 2>If this shutdown is still happening next week, I'm sure

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<v Speaker 2>we will include some details about government services being affected.

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<v Speaker 2>But this could resolve in a few days, a few hours,

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<v Speaker 2>or in a few weeks. We do not know. But luckily,

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<v Speaker 2>not all is depressing and dark in this country. There

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<v Speaker 2>still is a ray of hope. In that ray of

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<v Speaker 2>hope is named Jimmy Kimmel, who was thankfully back on

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<v Speaker 2>the air. I know we've all been watching. We've all

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<v Speaker 2>been watching this certainly, and next our Instintclair have ceased,

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<v Speaker 2>preempting his show. That's back on air across the country.

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<v Speaker 2>Free speech is hashtag So back in America, provert. Do

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<v Speaker 2>you want to talk about the Disney plus boycott?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, So we've gotten some data finally on the damage

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<v Speaker 1>down to Disney's result of the boycott. After they fired

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<v Speaker 1>Monsieur Kimmel.

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<v Speaker 2>Suspended, suspended, Monsieur kim.

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<v Speaker 1>Il suspended, suspended, They were definitely going to fire. They

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to fire his We definitely wanted to fire him.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, there was a lot of posting online

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<v Speaker 1>about it.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a lot of posting, a lot of.

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<v Speaker 1>Posting about people canceling their accounts and people being like wow,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's I always it's always very frustrated to me

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<v Speaker 1>because like people get very excited and it's impossible to

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<v Speaker 1>tell with the moment is this actually anything? Right? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>sixteen thousand people shared this thing about how the website

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<v Speaker 1>for Disney was down, but that doesn't mean anything other

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<v Speaker 1>than like someone saw the website down and a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of people shared and posted it. So it was very

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<v Speaker 1>difficult to tell, like, is there actually any follow through

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<v Speaker 1>on this? Is Disney's bottom line being hurt? And thankfully

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<v Speaker 1>I'm very happy to say that it does look like

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<v Speaker 1>Disney suffered a substantial financial setback as a result of

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<v Speaker 1>the boycott campaign. YEP, something like one point seven million

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<v Speaker 1>paid subscribers canceled. And this was immediately before Disney was

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<v Speaker 1>looking to announce a price increase. So like this, this

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<v Speaker 1>is like a serious I'm not surprised they reversed. Course,

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<v Speaker 1>this is like damaging to them. We're not talking about

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<v Speaker 1>the amount of money that a company like Disney would

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<v Speaker 1>just ignore.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, And I think the most important thing here for

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<v Speaker 6>all of us, and this is the thing I talked about.

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<v Speaker 6>We did an episode about this. This is actually before for Kimmel.

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<v Speaker 6>I've reenstated by Sinclair. But one of the really important

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<v Speaker 6>things here is that everyone fucking hates this government. They

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<v Speaker 6>are hideously unpopular of the All of their sort of

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<v Speaker 6>legitimization stuff, all of the sort of media complicity they've

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<v Speaker 6>bought has bought them about a four percent of poofa

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<v Speaker 6>rating bump from where they were this time of the

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<v Speaker 6>administration the first time, so he said about forty one

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<v Speaker 6>percent of poofa rating. Everything that he's doing is hideously underwater.

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<v Speaker 6>Like his most popular thing is his immigration policy, which

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<v Speaker 6>is horrible. But it's again like forty two percent. Everyone

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<v Speaker 6>hates these people, you know, and it's it's very easy

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<v Speaker 6>because of their control the media sphere to believe that

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<v Speaker 6>they have this sort of total hegemonic power over everyone

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<v Speaker 6>in the US until the exact moment where it gets

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<v Speaker 6>challenged and everyone's like, wait, hold on, no, it turns

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<v Speaker 6>out most of the country hates this, does not want

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<v Speaker 6>Jimmy Kimmel acts from Disney.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, Comrade Kimmel has joined the fight. Yeah, yeah, there

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<v Speaker 2>are more of us than there are and there always

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<v Speaker 2>have been, and by more of us, Mia is referring

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<v Speaker 2>to herself and Jimmy Kimmel as a coherent political class.

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<v Speaker 1>Just for the record, there the only two members of

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<v Speaker 1>the coherent political class.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's good news just over the state which holds

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<v Speaker 2>me up and Kimmel and the entirety of the fourth Estate.

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<v Speaker 1>But I don't know, there's a little bit of good

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<v Speaker 1>news for you. A bunch of people got really pissed

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<v Speaker 1>at something blatantly anti First Amendment, anti democratic, massive overreach

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<v Speaker 1>of the state, thought crime, nonsense, and the company suffered

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<v Speaker 1>such dramatic within like literally in the space of a week.

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<v Speaker 1>That's three hundred and thirty million or so million dollars

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<v Speaker 1>a year that Disney lost. That even Disney can't ignore

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<v Speaker 1>that kind of money.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh looks like regular people.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Yeah, like people who subscribe to Disney Bluss.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>An army of ordinary liberals, the actual silent majority in

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<v Speaker 2>this country. Yeah said no this, like.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, that's gross and scary. I'm not paying Disney anymore. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's good that they did that.

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<v Speaker 2>Currently, the rights trying to manufacture counter boycott against Netflix

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<v Speaker 2>for having children's shows with non binary characters, mostly using

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<v Speaker 2>clips and children's shows that are like two or three

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<v Speaker 2>years old clips that Limbs of Talk Talk has already

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<v Speaker 2>posted years ago. Now try to write check and others

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<v Speaker 2>are recirculating these clips to being like, look at how

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<v Speaker 2>Netflix has gone too far as pushing woke nonsense down

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<v Speaker 2>the throats of your children by using like ancient clips

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<v Speaker 2>from like the Jurassic Park TV show. Like, okay, guys,

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<v Speaker 2>good luck with that. Have fun.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>In other news, the Department of War. This actually happened

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<v Speaker 2>last month. On September fifth, Trump signed an executive order

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<v Speaker 2>approving the name the Department of War as a secondary

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<v Speaker 2>title for the Department of Defense to use an official correspondence,

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<v Speaker 2>public communications, ceremonial contexts, and non statutory documents within the

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<v Speaker 2>executive branch, while the administration also works on changing the

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<v Speaker 2>name officially through Congress. Hag Seth nearly immediately switched all

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<v Speaker 2>of his accounts and his office name plate to read

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<v Speaker 2>Secretary of War.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you know, he pushed hard for this one.

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<v Speaker 2>Defense dot gov now redirects to war dot gov. And

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<v Speaker 2>they're just referring to this in all public appearances as

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<v Speaker 2>the War Department, something that we've talked about on the

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<v Speaker 2>show before of them wanting to do and they're going

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<v Speaker 2>to continue to push this and using this kind of

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<v Speaker 2>war framing for domestic operations, yeah, not just international deployments.

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<v Speaker 3>This was its historical name right like way way before

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<v Speaker 3>it was a DoD Yeah. Yeah, it was, so just

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<v Speaker 3>to be clear for people, that doesn't mean that it's

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<v Speaker 3>like a good reason to change it back.

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<v Speaker 2>Trump truthed last week quote, at the request of the

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<v Speaker 2>Secretary of Homeland Security Christinome, I'm directing Secretary of War

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<v Speaker 2>Pete Hagseth to provide all necessary troops to protect war

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<v Speaker 2>more ravaged Portland and any of our ICE facilities under

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<v Speaker 2>siege from attack by Antifa and other domestic terrorists. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>also authorizing full force if necessary. Thank you for your

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<v Speaker 2>attention in this matter. War ravaged Portland. How's it hanging

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<v Speaker 2>out there for our Portland correspondence.

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<v Speaker 1>It's fine. It's kind of raining. I had a nice

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<v Speaker 1>tapas dinner on Sunday. It was pretty good.

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<v Speaker 6>The crows are really nice.

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<v Speaker 2>Do what it does? Does someone want to mention like

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<v Speaker 2>the nature of the anti ICE protests happening in like

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<v Speaker 2>one square block in like the south waterfront of downtown Portland.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's in the South waterfront. McAdam is what people

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<v Speaker 1>here call it the neighborhood where the ICE auxiliary facility is.

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<v Speaker 1>And there have been protests off and on pretty much

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<v Speaker 1>since Trump took office. Usually on like a good night

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<v Speaker 1>you get maybe one hundred and fifty two hundred people.

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<v Speaker 1>There were some nights kind of around where things blew

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<v Speaker 1>up in LA that there were more like five or

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<v Speaker 1>six hundred people out for a couple of days. There

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<v Speaker 1>really hasn't been any of the like what we were

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<v Speaker 1>seeing in twenty twenty in terms of like the mass

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<v Speaker 1>mass gatherings, and you know, there has not really been

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<v Speaker 1>much in the way of like people getting arrested, generally

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<v Speaker 1>getting arrested for crossing a line that separates federal property

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<v Speaker 1>from like state property, so to speak, and like step

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<v Speaker 1>over it and then a bunch of guys run out

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<v Speaker 1>and grab them. Right, That's that's mostly what the arrests

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<v Speaker 1>are for. A lot of people have had charges dropped.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, people get fucked up charges when they get charged,

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<v Speaker 1>but a lot of them are not really sticking because

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<v Speaker 1>they're not very strong, like because it's just not much

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<v Speaker 1>going on.

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<v Speaker 5>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we'll talk more about why Trump thinks there's this

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<v Speaker 2>apocalypse now scenario happening in Portland. But yeah, so far

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<v Speaker 2>the protests have been relatively mild.

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, Yeah, the vibe is very much like the classic

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<v Speaker 6>Portland thing of people with like holding doughnuts on fishing

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<v Speaker 6>lines out in front of the cops. Right, it's like that,

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<v Speaker 6>not like molotovs.

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<v Speaker 1>The response has been crazy, Like there's a video going

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<v Speaker 1>around that's a bunch of federal agents. I think they're

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<v Speaker 1>fps rolling in up from a van from outside of

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<v Speaker 1>the ice facility and arresting somebody who again probably crossed

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<v Speaker 1>a line or through something. Generally is why people have

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<v Speaker 1>been getting arrested, so that the response has been nonsense.

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<v Speaker 1>That video is from recently, and I'm seeing it attributed

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<v Speaker 1>to Trump's declaration of war. But like I saw stuff

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<v Speaker 1>like that three months ago, four months ago, like it's

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<v Speaker 1>been happening every day, like they do roll up in

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<v Speaker 1>their vans when they because they periodically throughout the day

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<v Speaker 1>will have Feds come in to go grab a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of people, and that this is a thing they've been doing.

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<v Speaker 1>So they've been so far at least, I have not

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<v Speaker 1>seen either an escalation on the ground really in terms

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<v Speaker 1>of what protests, what the protests are doing, and the

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<v Speaker 1>numbers of protesters since Trump's declaration. And I also really

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<v Speaker 1>haven't seen an escalation in what's being deployed on the ground.

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<v Speaker 2>We have not seen the Oregon National Guard presence that

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<v Speaker 2>is being promised. No, this has just been DHS officers.

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<v Speaker 1>I can confirm, just based on some information that's come

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<v Speaker 1>my way that there do seem to be an increased

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<v Speaker 1>number of DHS blackhaws flying with their transponders off. There's

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of reasons they can do that. Some of

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<v Speaker 1>them is for if they are transporting like high value

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<v Speaker 1>quote unquote deportees, right, people who are being deported for

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<v Speaker 1>some sort of serious crime. Sure, some of it is

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<v Speaker 1>if they are feel like they are under threat and

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<v Speaker 1>are doing like emergency personnel transfers. They're not generally supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to fly without their transponders, although again, you can't really

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<v Speaker 1>trust anything to work the way it's supposed to work.

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<v Speaker 1>But there is some evidence that they have been ramping

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<v Speaker 1>up and they have been flying more MQ nine's over

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<v Speaker 1>the city Reaper drones for surveillance purposes, so that I

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<v Speaker 1>can say there does seem to have been a degree

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<v Speaker 1>of escalation, But in terms of we're not seeing troops

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<v Speaker 1>marching through the city yet, and I honestly can't, it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't seem to me, as of the moment that we're

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<v Speaker 1>recording this, that there has been an escalation in the

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<v Speaker 1>level of force used on the ground right now. That said,

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<v Speaker 1>the level of force use on the ground before Trump

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<v Speaker 1>declared his war on Portland or whatever was still pretty extreme.

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<v Speaker 1>That has continued. I just it doesn't seem like what's

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<v Speaker 1>happening right now is a massive increase over where we

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<v Speaker 1>were two weeks ago. You know, That's all I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 6>And I think the place where that has happened is Chicago,

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<v Speaker 6>and we will get to that later.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Well, Trump has continued to talk about deploying quote

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<v Speaker 2>unquote troops to US cities, including at a meeting of

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<v Speaker 2>top brass on Tuesday, September thirtieth, where Pete hag Seth

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<v Speaker 2>basically ranted to top generals and admirals about no more

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<v Speaker 2>wokeness in the military. But Trump also spoke telling top

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<v Speaker 2>military officials to prepare to deploy military to liberal run cities,

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<v Speaker 2>calling it a quote war from within. Let's play the clip.

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<v Speaker 7>But it seems that the ones that are run by

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<v Speaker 7>the radical left Democrats, what they've done to San Francisco, Chicago,

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<v Speaker 7>New York, Los Angeles the very unsafe places, and we're

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<v Speaker 7>going to straighten them out. It'll be a major part

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<v Speaker 7>for some of the people in this room. That's a

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<v Speaker 7>war too, It's a war from within. Controlling the physical

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<v Speaker 7>territory of our border is essential to national security. We

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<v Speaker 7>can't let these people in.

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<v Speaker 3>The two separate issues there that he conflated, right, protests

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<v Speaker 3>in cities and people crossing the border.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and that's the way Trump's been talking about this

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<v Speaker 2>for a while. I mean, same thing with like DC right,

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<v Speaker 2>combining this like crime issue with undocumented immigration and also

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<v Speaker 2>with protests against ICE operations targeting undocumented immigrants, all kind

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<v Speaker 2>of bundled together into this, into this war from within.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I mean the immigration issue, right, is one that

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<v Speaker 3>gives him a much broaderly way and the powers the

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<v Speaker 3>constitutionally available to him as the executive than policing with

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<v Speaker 3>the military, which is on the face foot of thing

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<v Speaker 3>that shouldn't happen in the United States. It makes sense

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<v Speaker 3>from a tactical perspective for them to conflate those two

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<v Speaker 3>things together. I will say, even if it's not particularly real.

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<v Speaker 2>During this televise meeting, Trump told military leaders quote, last month,

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<v Speaker 2>I signing an executive order to provide training for a

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<v Speaker 2>quick reaction force that can help quell civil disturbances. This

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<v Speaker 2>is going to be a big thing for the people

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<v Speaker 2>in this room talking to the generals, because it's the

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<v Speaker 2>enemy from within, and we will have to handle it

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<v Speaker 2>before it gets out of control. It won't get out

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<v Speaker 2>of control once you're involved. Unquote. They're directly addressing admirals

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<v Speaker 2>and generals about them having to help form a quick

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<v Speaker 2>reaction for us to quell civil disturbance, which won't get

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<v Speaker 2>out of control once they're involved, calling it again the

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<v Speaker 2>enemy from within, align that Trump used a lot during

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<v Speaker 2>the tail end of his presidential campaign in twenty twenty four.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, which is just it's every single element if it

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<v Speaker 6>is just fascist.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean it's it's pretty it's pretty blanket authoritarian stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Like there's no like sugar coating it here. Oh yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>they don't need to like use coded phrases, right, they

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<v Speaker 2>just say this stuff.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, No, they're just yeah, they're just this is this

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<v Speaker 6>is just fascism. They're just trying to do it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they're just saying the thing.

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<v Speaker 2>In the meeting, he explicitly labeled these dangerous cities as

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<v Speaker 2>a training ground for our military National Guard.

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<v Speaker 7>But I want to salute every service member who has

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<v Speaker 7>helped us carry out this critical mission. It's really a

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<v Speaker 7>very important mission. And I told Pete we should use

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<v Speaker 7>some of these dangerous cities as training grounds for our

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<v Speaker 7>military national Guard. But military, because we're going into Chicago.

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<v Speaker 7>Verson that's a big city with an incompetent governor. Stupid

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<v Speaker 7>governor stupid.

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<v Speaker 6>And I think it's worth noting that both the mayor

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<v Speaker 6>of Chicago and the Governor Pritzker have been very unhappy

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<v Speaker 6>about this. Like as much as Pritzker has kind of

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<v Speaker 6>not been doing anything about like CPD aiding ice in raids,

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<v Speaker 6>he is absolutely not budging at all about not putting

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<v Speaker 6>National Guard troops in. So if they're very serious about

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<v Speaker 6>following this through, we're going to see some kind of

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<v Speaker 6>large scale confrontation.

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<v Speaker 3>Yep.

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<v Speaker 6>And Pritzker is not the kind of like knock needs,

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<v Speaker 6>uh Gavin Newson type governor.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he's not Gavin Newson.

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<v Speaker 6>He's not simply just going to let Trump do this.

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<v Speaker 6>And yeah, that's going to be a major source of

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<v Speaker 6>confrontation assuming this, Assuming this specific like we're going to

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<v Speaker 6>send the National Guard in the Chicago stuff like happens soon.

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<v Speaker 2>Trump also talked about talking with Tina Kotec, governor of Oregon,

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<v Speaker 2>about deploying Oregon National Gardener, and her pushing back against that,

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<v Speaker 2>but ostensibly acquiescing in some way because there's been an

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<v Speaker 2>announcement from the organ National Guard that they will be

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<v Speaker 2>deploying and people in Oregon probably aren't gonna be happy

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<v Speaker 2>about it. They won't quote understand the mission. But during

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<v Speaker 2>this meeting, Trump did talk about his phone calls with

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<v Speaker 2>the Oregon governor.

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<v Speaker 7>Portland, Oregon, where it looks like a war zone. And

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<v Speaker 7>I get a call from the liberal governor. Sure, please

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<v Speaker 7>don't come, and we don't need you. I said, well,

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<v Speaker 7>unless they're playing false tapes, this looked like World War two.

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<v Speaker 7>Your place is burning down. I mean, you must be kidding, sir.

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<v Speaker 7>We have it under control. I said, you don't have

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<v Speaker 7>it under control, Governor, but I'll check it and I'll

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<v Speaker 7>call you back. I called it back. I said, this

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<v Speaker 7>place is a nightmare. Probably it's certainly not the biggest,

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<v Speaker 7>but it's one of the worst. Is brew They go

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<v Speaker 7>after our ice people, who are great patriots and tough

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<v Speaker 7>job too, but they love it. They love it because

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<v Speaker 7>they're cleaning up our country.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think because it's a fifty thousand dollars sign up.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, unless they're playing false tapes. So the tapes aren't

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<v Speaker 2>necessarily false. But if you're watching Fox News twenty four

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<v Speaker 2>to seven, what Fox News is doing is they're playing

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of clips not from the Year of Our

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<v Speaker 2>Lord twenty twenty five, but in fact from twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 2>when Trump's last federal invasion of Portland happened where he

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<v Speaker 2>deployed Bortac, which looked much more like a war scene.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you know why because of the massive amounts of

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<v Speaker 2>chemical munitions that Bortac like caked downtown Portland, which made

0:20:06.800 --> 0:20:10.960
<v Speaker 2>it look very similar to a war scene. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>those are the clips that are playing NonStop on TV.

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<v Speaker 2>I've been watching Fox News clips. They're just playing clips

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<v Speaker 2>of Portland twenty twenty to make this look like a

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<v Speaker 2>different situation than what the current on the ground situation is,

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<v Speaker 2>which may have some intense moments, but not nearly the

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<v Speaker 2>intensity of five years ago, which again was stoked by

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<v Speaker 2>Trump's own military police force, which was deployed to the city.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, there's some information that Trump got corrected internally.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know that I think that that's going to

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<v Speaker 1>mean anything, but yeah, six year old footage, five year

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<v Speaker 1>old footage being used to justify in military deployments about

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<v Speaker 1>you'd expect.

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<v Speaker 2>Really literally, yesterday I saw footage circulating on X the

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<v Speaker 2>Everything app of someone throwing a Molotov cocktail into a street.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I remember that Molotov.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember that.

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<v Speaker 1>That Malota getting thrown half a decade ago.

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<v Speaker 2>It only hit another protester whose feet got very badly burned. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's the type of footage circulating that makes it

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<v Speaker 2>look like, you know, once again, Portland's burning down, Portland's

0:21:15.480 --> 0:21:18.720
<v Speaker 2>always burning down, using like one or two select clips

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<v Speaker 2>from yeah, half a decade ago.

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<v Speaker 1>And again no buildings actually burnt down.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they've created a reality around what happened important in

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<v Speaker 3>twenty twenty that you will never change with facts or evidence. Right,

0:21:30.760 --> 0:21:34.479
<v Speaker 3>like to people who watch Fox News, Portland was burned

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<v Speaker 3>to the ground in twenty twenty.

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<v Speaker 1>And again, even on the worst nights in Portland, we

0:21:38.920 --> 0:21:41.680
<v Speaker 1>could go three blocks and get food from a food cart.

0:21:41.760 --> 0:21:43.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we got a lot of great Chinese food.

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<v Speaker 1>That stuff. We've got great Chinese food, shwarma, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep.

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<v Speaker 3>In La when the city was whatever under siege, I

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<v Speaker 3>went to Buffalo Wild Wings and pretty pre normal Buffalo

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<v Speaker 3>Wild Wings at two am on a Wednesday scene.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a war zone. That's a war zone.

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<v Speaker 3>I had my plague carrier on. I was ready to go.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's some ads. We'll be back to talking about Chicago,

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<v Speaker 2>but enjoy these possibly Buffalo Wild Wing sponsored ads.

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<v Speaker 3>I doubt it. No vegan food. All right, we are

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<v Speaker 3>back sweet and it's good to be back. I want

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<v Speaker 3>to talk very briefly about Pete hegsss sec war as

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<v Speaker 3>he is calling himself now, right, and the little speech

0:22:34.560 --> 0:22:39.720
<v Speaker 3>he gave Pete Pegs he's he's working on his his

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<v Speaker 3>physical fitness for sure, his bod that He put a

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<v Speaker 3>big emphasis on physical fitness in his speech, along with

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<v Speaker 3>grooming standards and other.

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<v Speaker 2>Shiit male standards.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, everybody has to attain the male standard for the

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<v Speaker 3>various role of their combat roles that they if they

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<v Speaker 3>want to do that, right, So that would mean, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>the Army Physical Fitness test, right, whatever the male standard

0:23:01.880 --> 0:23:05.200
<v Speaker 3>quote unquote was would be everyone's standard. I don't want

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<v Speaker 3>to go deep into hegsth career. That would be another episode,

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<v Speaker 3>possibly of another show, but I do want to talk

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<v Speaker 3>about this stuff. Did you notice he said no more.

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<v Speaker 3>He listed number of generals, but one of them was Milli, Right,

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<v Speaker 3>he said no more. Milli's Chiarelli, and I forget who

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<v Speaker 3>the other one was. But I thought that was interesting

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<v Speaker 3>given what we saw Trump say about a QRF. Right,

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<v Speaker 3>Milli had a long career in the military, rate he

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<v Speaker 3>saw plenty of combat and all that stuff. But I

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<v Speaker 3>think He's most well known to most people for his

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<v Speaker 3>cooling effect on the use of the US military against

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<v Speaker 3>protesters in twenty twenty. Elsa, I think that is what

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<v Speaker 3>that was referring to, right that hegsth was talking about

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<v Speaker 3>removing that kind of person from Kamal and.

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<v Speaker 1>Milly also said no to Trump when he wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>deploy for and he was also working behind the scenes,

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<v Speaker 1>he's admitted now with Pelosi being like, we need to

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<v Speaker 1>have a plan if he tries to use the nukes

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<v Speaker 1>after the election.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Millie was doing everything he could to mitigate what

0:24:03.720 --> 0:24:08.240
<v Speaker 3>he saw as a massive danger of Trump responding in

0:24:08.280 --> 0:24:10.119
<v Speaker 3>a completely disproportionate.

0:24:09.440 --> 0:24:11.440
<v Speaker 2>Way a legitimate national security and danger.

0:24:11.520 --> 0:24:15.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah yes, yeah, like, yeah, someone whose job is protecting

0:24:15.480 --> 0:24:18.320
<v Speaker 3>the United States, like that's some reasonable concern. Was a

0:24:18.359 --> 0:24:22.320
<v Speaker 3>reasonable concern at that time. Obviously, the Trump administration does

0:24:22.400 --> 0:24:26.359
<v Speaker 3>not want people like that in command anymore, and that

0:24:26.520 --> 0:24:29.639
<v Speaker 3>was something that HEGs spoke about at length. The rest

0:24:29.680 --> 0:24:33.640
<v Speaker 3>of his speech focused on shit like fitness standards, shit

0:24:33.800 --> 0:24:37.159
<v Speaker 3>like grooming, visible tattoos, a bunch of stuff that you

0:24:37.160 --> 0:24:40.680
<v Speaker 3>would expect from a mid career infantry officer who hasn't

0:24:40.680 --> 0:24:43.040
<v Speaker 3>had a particularly distinguished career, right, Like, that's the ship

0:24:43.160 --> 0:24:46.280
<v Speaker 3>that mid career infantry officers do.

0:24:46.480 --> 0:24:49.359
<v Speaker 2>I think you mean war fighters, James, which is haig

0:24:49.440 --> 0:24:51.280
<v Speaker 2>Set's preferred term for soldiers.

0:24:51.440 --> 0:24:57.240
<v Speaker 3>Yes, fuck me. Yeah, well because it's gender neutrals start that.

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<v Speaker 1>They've been doing that for a while.

0:24:58.600 --> 0:25:00.480
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, it's on the MRI, It's been on the

0:25:00.520 --> 0:25:03.000
<v Speaker 3>emerys for a while. But yes, heik Seth does like

0:25:03.040 --> 0:25:07.879
<v Speaker 3>the phrase warfighters. His stuff was, like I said, not

0:25:07.920 --> 0:25:09.919
<v Speaker 3>something you would expect from someone who I think he

0:25:09.960 --> 0:25:13.360
<v Speaker 3>was a four in the national card, right. I don't

0:25:13.400 --> 0:25:16.800
<v Speaker 3>think any of that it's particularly new. He issued a

0:25:16.880 --> 0:25:20.160
<v Speaker 3>number of directives. One thing I did want to talk

0:25:20.160 --> 0:25:25.200
<v Speaker 3>about was this change in grooming standards. So the War

0:25:25.320 --> 0:25:30.480
<v Speaker 3>Department has issued a new directive on shaving profiles. What

0:25:31.119 --> 0:25:35.040
<v Speaker 3>this does in practice is we can see from their announcement,

0:25:35.359 --> 0:25:39.119
<v Speaker 3>which features prominently a black soldier shaving, is it takes

0:25:39.160 --> 0:25:44.040
<v Speaker 3>away long term shaving profiles for soldiers with medical conditions

0:25:44.040 --> 0:25:49.679
<v Speaker 3>such as pseudofoliculitis or exma, or other soldiers who experienced

0:25:49.680 --> 0:25:54.080
<v Speaker 3>skin irritation by shaving. Previously, those soldiers may have had

0:25:54.119 --> 0:25:57.199
<v Speaker 3>a like a waiver which they could show to their

0:25:57.200 --> 0:26:03.160
<v Speaker 3>officers of their officer said, hey, soldier, why have you shave? Soldier, sailor, emon,

0:26:03.920 --> 0:26:08.040
<v Speaker 3>Space Force, guardian, whatever, why haven't you shaved? They could say, well,

0:26:08.040 --> 0:26:10.680
<v Speaker 3>I'm on the shaving profile because of this condition that

0:26:10.680 --> 0:26:14.439
<v Speaker 3>I have. Now you will only have a year and

0:26:14.480 --> 0:26:18.360
<v Speaker 3>then you will have to somehow rectify that condition. They

0:26:18.400 --> 0:26:20.280
<v Speaker 3>talk about treatments a little bit in this Sonow's which

0:26:20.280 --> 0:26:21.680
<v Speaker 3>you can read if you want, not going to read

0:26:21.720 --> 0:26:24.280
<v Speaker 3>them out for you, but this will very clearly target

0:26:24.359 --> 0:26:27.200
<v Speaker 3>black service people the most. And I don't think that's

0:26:27.200 --> 0:26:30.399
<v Speaker 3>a coincidence. And as we see from the picture of

0:26:30.760 --> 0:26:34.800
<v Speaker 3>the black soldiers shaving in the in the release that

0:26:34.880 --> 0:26:37.240
<v Speaker 3>they sent out there, this is happening at the same

0:26:37.240 --> 0:26:38.760
<v Speaker 3>time as the arrested his stuff, right, and at the

0:26:38.760 --> 0:26:42.240
<v Speaker 3>same time as we've seen trans folks removed from the military.

0:26:42.560 --> 0:26:46.120
<v Speaker 3>As Heagfest seems to be going pretty hard on removing

0:26:46.160 --> 0:26:51.600
<v Speaker 3>women from combat roles. He's previously been more out right

0:26:51.720 --> 0:26:53.600
<v Speaker 3>in that this time he's in his speech he was

0:26:53.600 --> 0:26:55.760
<v Speaker 3>talking about how women, if they could meet the same

0:26:55.800 --> 0:26:59.000
<v Speaker 3>standards as men, would be welcoming combat roles, but they

0:26:59.000 --> 0:27:02.879
<v Speaker 3>wouldn't qute unquote lower the standards. The whole thing was

0:27:02.920 --> 0:27:06.159
<v Speaker 3>pretty remarkable to see heg Theift lecturing, you know, people

0:27:06.200 --> 0:27:11.040
<v Speaker 3>who have spent collectively maybe hundreds of years in combat, right.

0:27:10.920 --> 0:27:16.920
<v Speaker 2>People spent decades losing wars. Yeah, yeah, decades of period

0:27:16.920 --> 0:27:17.320
<v Speaker 2>of time.

0:27:17.600 --> 0:27:21.399
<v Speaker 3>Yeah yeah, I mean centuries between them, right, But explaining

0:27:21.440 --> 0:27:25.520
<v Speaker 3>how warfare works to people who have vastly more experience

0:27:25.560 --> 0:27:29.040
<v Speaker 3>in it than him. Yes, I'm basically telling them it's

0:27:29.040 --> 0:27:32.760
<v Speaker 3>not a myth that we haven't seen from fascist states before. Right.

0:27:33.040 --> 0:27:35.199
<v Speaker 3>The soldiers were fine, but they were betrayed by the

0:27:35.200 --> 0:27:39.160
<v Speaker 3>politicians in the generals. Yeah, yeah, yeah, this is nothing new. Yeah,

0:27:39.160 --> 0:27:41.120
<v Speaker 3>but but it was still kind of remarkable to see

0:27:41.160 --> 0:27:43.879
<v Speaker 3>heg theft delivering it to the generals.

0:27:43.520 --> 0:27:46.480
<v Speaker 2>And specifically, both he and Trump made statements about if

0:27:46.560 --> 0:27:49.200
<v Speaker 2>the generals and animals do not like what Trump and

0:27:49.240 --> 0:27:53.040
<v Speaker 2>Hexer were saying, they should just resign, they should just leave.

0:27:53.600 --> 0:27:56.440
<v Speaker 5>I've never walked into a room so solid before. This

0:27:56.520 --> 0:27:59.320
<v Speaker 5>is very don't left, don't live if you're not allowed

0:27:59.359 --> 0:28:02.040
<v Speaker 5>to do that. You know, I just have a good time.

0:28:02.440 --> 0:28:05.160
<v Speaker 5>And if you want to applaud, you applaud. And if

0:28:05.160 --> 0:28:07.119
<v Speaker 5>you want to do anything you want, you can do

0:28:07.160 --> 0:28:09.160
<v Speaker 5>anything you want. And if you don't like what I'm saying,

0:28:09.200 --> 0:28:11.600
<v Speaker 5>you can leave the room. Of course, there goes your rank,

0:28:11.600 --> 0:28:17.320
<v Speaker 5>there goes your future. But you just feel nice and loose, okay,

0:28:17.440 --> 0:28:19.880
<v Speaker 5>because we're all on the same team.

0:28:20.320 --> 0:28:23.200
<v Speaker 2>Part of this is because Trump just wants more loyalists

0:28:23.280 --> 0:28:26.680
<v Speaker 2>in the upper brass of the military. Like that's part

0:28:26.720 --> 0:28:29.080
<v Speaker 2>of this process. That's why he doesn't want millies. He

0:28:29.080 --> 0:28:31.399
<v Speaker 2>doesn't want people that will deny him. He wants just

0:28:31.520 --> 0:28:33.960
<v Speaker 2>a complete loyalist government, and that includes the military.

0:28:34.119 --> 0:28:34.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:28:34.840 --> 0:28:37.240
<v Speaker 2>And if that means that we're going to have a

0:28:37.240 --> 0:28:40.000
<v Speaker 2>whole bunch of generals and animals resigned because of hig

0:28:40.040 --> 0:28:44.120
<v Speaker 2>Seth and Trump's anti woke granting, then that's a desirable

0:28:44.160 --> 0:28:46.400
<v Speaker 2>outcome for the administration at this point.

0:28:46.720 --> 0:28:47.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>Speaking of war Chicago, Yeah, I mean the scenes that

0:28:54.680 --> 0:28:59.360
<v Speaker 6>I have seen the most frequently described as war or

0:28:59.400 --> 0:29:02.560
<v Speaker 6>looking like war this week have come out of Chicago,

0:29:02.760 --> 0:29:05.800
<v Speaker 6>where on Tuesday the thirtieth, there was one of the

0:29:05.800 --> 0:29:11.920
<v Speaker 6>most brutal raids that we've seen from the Feds yet

0:29:11.960 --> 0:29:15.560
<v Speaker 6>in any city. This took place in South Shore, which

0:29:15.600 --> 0:29:17.600
<v Speaker 6>is a ninety percent black neighborhood on the South side

0:29:17.600 --> 0:29:21.360
<v Speaker 6>of Chicago, where a whole bunch of immigrants who. I

0:29:21.360 --> 0:29:24.840
<v Speaker 6>don't know if people remember when Texas and a bunch

0:29:24.880 --> 0:29:27.040
<v Speaker 6>of other states in the South started busing immigrants up

0:29:27.080 --> 0:29:29.200
<v Speaker 6>to cities in the north. Chicago is one of the

0:29:29.240 --> 0:29:31.479
<v Speaker 6>ones where that happened. A lot a lot of these

0:29:31.520 --> 0:29:35.040
<v Speaker 6>people ended up in South Shore and there was a

0:29:35.240 --> 0:29:39.960
<v Speaker 6>massive raid on an apartment complex in the South Shore.

0:29:40.640 --> 0:29:43.600
<v Speaker 6>Agents showed up in a combination of moving vans, sort

0:29:43.640 --> 0:29:48.360
<v Speaker 6>of unmarked vans, and armored vehicles. It's still unclear exactly

0:29:48.440 --> 0:29:52.080
<v Speaker 6>how many people were taken. We so don't know. Estimates

0:29:52.080 --> 0:29:56.200
<v Speaker 6>at the time suggested about forty. It's very unclear. What

0:29:56.240 --> 0:29:57.520
<v Speaker 6>we do know about the raid was that it was

0:29:57.560 --> 0:30:00.960
<v Speaker 6>absolutely brutal. A bunch of a bunch of the initial

0:30:01.000 --> 0:30:02.800
<v Speaker 6>reports thought that they had been shooting, but there hadn't

0:30:02.800 --> 0:30:04.600
<v Speaker 6>been shooting. What there had been was that they blew

0:30:04.640 --> 0:30:07.640
<v Speaker 6>into this apartment complex with flash bank grenades.

0:30:07.760 --> 0:30:11.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, pretty common for people to mistake those two yeah.

0:30:11.560 --> 0:30:13.800
<v Speaker 6>Yeah. And these are just you know, these are just

0:30:14.040 --> 0:30:16.680
<v Speaker 6>regular people who suddenly at one in the morning, a

0:30:16.680 --> 0:30:19.720
<v Speaker 6>bunch of explosions start going off. There's a whole bunch

0:30:19.720 --> 0:30:22.560
<v Speaker 6>of pictures that you can see in various articles about

0:30:22.560 --> 0:30:26.080
<v Speaker 6>this of doors torn off their hinges. The agents did

0:30:26.120 --> 0:30:28.520
<v Speaker 6>a I think this is a classic Chicago police tactic,

0:30:28.600 --> 0:30:30.960
<v Speaker 6>but you know, they just went through and just started

0:30:31.160 --> 0:30:33.880
<v Speaker 6>grabbing everyone's stuff and tearing through it and throwing it

0:30:33.920 --> 0:30:39.160
<v Speaker 6>onto the ground. There were black Hawk helicopters like constantly

0:30:39.240 --> 0:30:44.000
<v Speaker 6>circling this just random apartment complex. There was a massive

0:30:44.080 --> 0:30:48.640
<v Speaker 6>FBI presence alongside border patrol and Ice. Yeah, it's also

0:30:48.640 --> 0:30:51.840
<v Speaker 6>worth mentioning that Independent book Club Chicago, which is one

0:30:51.880 --> 0:30:55.840
<v Speaker 6>of the very sort of prominent independent local media outlets there,

0:30:55.880 --> 0:30:58.640
<v Speaker 6>obtained a picture from a neighbor who was like next

0:30:58.680 --> 0:31:01.920
<v Speaker 6>to the raid that show Chicago Police Department on the scene,

0:31:01.960 --> 0:31:06.040
<v Speaker 6>which they are there expressly forbidden like by state law

0:31:06.320 --> 0:31:09.760
<v Speaker 6>from assisting in immigration enforcement. It is worth reading this

0:31:09.920 --> 0:31:13.400
<v Speaker 6>article in order to see this quote quote. We did

0:31:13.440 --> 0:31:17.560
<v Speaker 6>not participate in or assist with any immigration enforcement, spokesperson

0:31:17.640 --> 0:31:20.800
<v Speaker 6>Maggie he Un said in a statement, followed immediately by

0:31:20.840 --> 0:31:23.360
<v Speaker 6>pictures that clearly show a CBD car on the scene

0:31:23.400 --> 0:31:28.920
<v Speaker 6>of this raid. Yeah, this raid is a really significant

0:31:29.400 --> 0:31:31.600
<v Speaker 6>escalation of force in a sea that has I mean,

0:31:31.600 --> 0:31:34.800
<v Speaker 6>I've already seen ice literally shoot someone and kill them.

0:31:35.320 --> 0:31:39.040
<v Speaker 6>But yeah, I'm going to quote this from Tribe, which

0:31:39.080 --> 0:31:42.040
<v Speaker 6>is another independent news outlet in collaboration with Unraffled Press.

0:31:42.920 --> 0:31:46.440
<v Speaker 6>Veronica Castro, if the Illinois Coalition for Immigrant and Refugee Rights,

0:31:46.440 --> 0:31:50.320
<v Speaker 6>at a press conference, said quote, this looked like hundreds

0:31:50.360 --> 0:31:53.360
<v Speaker 6>of masked agents knocking down doors and dragging families out

0:31:53.400 --> 0:31:56.800
<v Speaker 6>in the middle of the night, holding babies that were unclothed.

0:31:57.200 --> 0:32:02.160
<v Speaker 6>Castro added, so people from their homes in the middle

0:32:02.160 --> 0:32:05.040
<v Speaker 6>of the night, holding naked babies because people haven't had time,

0:32:05.120 --> 0:32:06.880
<v Speaker 6>Like they're not giving people time to like even put

0:32:06.920 --> 0:32:10.120
<v Speaker 6>clothes on something. You see a lot in the accounts

0:32:10.120 --> 0:32:12.320
<v Speaker 6>of this. I'm gonna read some more from an account

0:32:12.360 --> 0:32:15.440
<v Speaker 6>from ABC. As I got to my unit to stick

0:32:15.480 --> 0:32:17.200
<v Speaker 6>my key in the door, I was grabbed by an

0:32:17.200 --> 0:32:20.160
<v Speaker 6>officer and I said, what's going on? What's going on?

0:32:20.240 --> 0:32:22.960
<v Speaker 6>He never actually told me. He said I was being detained,

0:32:23.040 --> 0:32:27.200
<v Speaker 6>said Alicia Books. Neighbors like Ebony Watson say they duck

0:32:27.280 --> 0:32:31.120
<v Speaker 6>for covers. They heard several flashbangs. They was terrified. The

0:32:31.200 --> 0:32:34.920
<v Speaker 6>kids was crying, people was screaming. They looked very distraught.

0:32:35.400 --> 0:32:36.960
<v Speaker 6>I was out there when I seen the little girl

0:32:37.000 --> 0:32:39.200
<v Speaker 6>coming around the corner, because they was bringing the kids

0:32:39.240 --> 0:32:43.000
<v Speaker 6>down too, had them zip tied to each other. Watson said,

0:32:43.480 --> 0:32:47.000
<v Speaker 6>that's all. I kept asking, what is the morality? Where

0:32:47.040 --> 0:32:50.320
<v Speaker 6>is the human One of them literally laughed he was

0:32:50.320 --> 0:32:54.800
<v Speaker 6>standing right there. He said, fucking kids. So that is

0:32:55.160 --> 0:32:57.400
<v Speaker 6>what these raids are looking like now. It is again

0:32:57.400 --> 0:33:00.000
<v Speaker 6>also worth noting that like this, this is a very

0:33:00.120 --> 0:33:03.200
<v Speaker 6>significant escalation of force. They are zip tying children to

0:33:03.280 --> 0:33:04.960
<v Speaker 6>each other as they dragged them from their homes at

0:33:05.000 --> 0:33:06.680
<v Speaker 6>one in the morning and saying fucking kids.

0:33:07.880 --> 0:33:08.120
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:33:08.120 --> 0:33:11.600
<v Speaker 6>And this also marks what seems to be a pretty

0:33:11.720 --> 0:33:16.320
<v Speaker 6>large pivot away from the areas they've been targeting before,

0:33:16.320 --> 0:33:18.160
<v Speaker 6>which hand to be the suburbs in the outlying areas,

0:33:18.200 --> 0:33:21.680
<v Speaker 6>and into very very majority, the majority black.

0:33:21.440 --> 0:33:22.200
<v Speaker 2>Parts of Chicago.

0:33:22.880 --> 0:33:26.160
<v Speaker 6>And we're gonna talk more about this next week with

0:33:26.320 --> 0:33:27.800
<v Speaker 6>journalists who's been on the ground.

0:33:28.560 --> 0:33:28.760
<v Speaker 7>Yeah.

0:33:28.760 --> 0:33:30.520
<v Speaker 6>I mean, for example, a couple of hours before we

0:33:30.520 --> 0:33:35.280
<v Speaker 6>recorded this episode. So there are sparse details, but there

0:33:35.320 --> 0:33:39.719
<v Speaker 6>is a video that shows the Feds just two hands

0:33:39.760 --> 0:33:43.800
<v Speaker 6>on neck choking a black man in East Garfield Park.

0:33:44.320 --> 0:33:48.840
<v Speaker 6>It's deeply unclear why this is happening, but they are

0:33:49.160 --> 0:33:54.040
<v Speaker 6>just doing this now, and what we have so far,

0:33:54.160 --> 0:33:55.560
<v Speaker 6>we don't know why they were doing this. But this

0:33:55.600 --> 0:33:57.960
<v Speaker 6>is also one thing I think is very alarming. This

0:33:58.000 --> 0:33:59.760
<v Speaker 6>is also reported by Tribe. There is a video from

0:33:59.760 --> 0:34:03.400
<v Speaker 6>this where an agent is recorded saying, just so you

0:34:03.440 --> 0:34:06.560
<v Speaker 6>guys know, this is not an immigration enforcement action. The

0:34:06.640 --> 0:34:08.480
<v Speaker 6>agent goes on to say they were responding to a

0:34:08.560 --> 0:34:11.960
<v Speaker 6>robbery in progress. All we know about is there was

0:34:11.960 --> 0:34:14.719
<v Speaker 6>a car crash and they just started choking this guy.

0:34:15.200 --> 0:34:19.280
<v Speaker 6>It's unclear exactly what's going on with this. There probably

0:34:19.320 --> 0:34:21.160
<v Speaker 6>will be more details by the time this episode is

0:34:21.200 --> 0:34:24.960
<v Speaker 6>going out, but the Feds are just doing this stuff

0:34:25.000 --> 0:34:28.520
<v Speaker 6>every day in Chicago, I mean, just randomly choking black

0:34:28.560 --> 0:34:32.000
<v Speaker 6>people on the street. And this massive, hideous raid and

0:34:32.080 --> 0:34:36.600
<v Speaker 6>Sushore are pretty significant escalations in places that haven't been

0:34:36.640 --> 0:34:40.640
<v Speaker 6>targeting before. And it's hard to see this ending anytime

0:34:40.760 --> 0:34:44.959
<v Speaker 6>soon or they're you know, things getting any better from here,

0:34:45.120 --> 0:34:48.600
<v Speaker 6>especially with the sort of you know, as you were

0:34:48.600 --> 0:34:50.560
<v Speaker 6>mentioned earlier, there hasn't been really any sign of like

0:34:50.560 --> 0:34:54.040
<v Speaker 6>an intensification in federal violence in Portland, but in Chicago

0:34:55.120 --> 0:34:59.320
<v Speaker 6>there absolutely has been. And yeah, it's horrible.

0:35:00.560 --> 0:35:04.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So talking of intensification of federal activity, I guess

0:35:04.280 --> 0:35:07.680
<v Speaker 3>according to a notice posted in the Federal Register, DHS

0:35:07.800 --> 0:35:13.640
<v Speaker 3>is going to use the Cultural, Environmental and Historical Protection

0:35:13.960 --> 0:35:16.680
<v Speaker 3>Waiver that we reported about that came out this spring

0:35:17.200 --> 0:35:20.240
<v Speaker 3>to force through war construction in the San Diego sector.

0:35:20.719 --> 0:35:26.239
<v Speaker 3>I am guessing that in part we will see this

0:35:26.640 --> 0:35:30.160
<v Speaker 3>used to wave one of the acts that is waves

0:35:30.160 --> 0:35:34.680
<v Speaker 3>the Native American Graves Protection and Repatriation Act. And I'm

0:35:34.680 --> 0:35:38.080
<v Speaker 3>guessing in part that this will be used to waive

0:35:38.239 --> 0:35:43.000
<v Speaker 3>that right because Kumei ancestors are in these areas and

0:35:43.120 --> 0:35:45.920
<v Speaker 3>in at the end tail end of the previous Tramp administration.

0:35:46.040 --> 0:35:48.480
<v Speaker 3>I reported on this for Sierra, which is a magazine

0:35:48.480 --> 0:35:52.360
<v Speaker 3>of the Sierra Club. Kumii people were using ceremony, So

0:35:52.400 --> 0:35:56.960
<v Speaker 3>they were participating in ceremony every day at construction sites

0:35:57.239 --> 0:36:01.680
<v Speaker 3>in order to slow down the clock, and they also

0:36:01.840 --> 0:36:03.799
<v Speaker 3>filed a lawsuit. Right, but they were trying to basically

0:36:03.840 --> 0:36:06.240
<v Speaker 3>run out the clock on the Trump administration. In twenty twenty,

0:36:06.719 --> 0:36:11.239
<v Speaker 3>they successfully in some areas prevented some construction, but with

0:36:11.440 --> 0:36:14.600
<v Speaker 3>the waiver of Nagpray, it's hard to see how they

0:36:14.600 --> 0:36:18.520
<v Speaker 3>will be able to do that. They also wave a

0:36:18.560 --> 0:36:21.880
<v Speaker 3>bunch of other acts that Eagle Protection Act, Environmental microtrect

0:36:22.000 --> 0:36:26.360
<v Speaker 3>Bird Treatise, a bunch of other acts. Right, this comes

0:36:26.360 --> 0:36:30.640
<v Speaker 3>on the same week as Secretary of War Headths restored

0:36:30.760 --> 0:36:35.799
<v Speaker 3>medals of honor to soldiers at Wounded Knee. If people

0:36:35.840 --> 0:36:38.000
<v Speaker 3>are not familiar, this is not the episode where I

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<v Speaker 3>do a history of things sort of happened at Wounded

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<v Speaker 3>Knee Creek. But this was the largest mass shooting in

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<v Speaker 3>US history.

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<v Speaker 2>This was just a slaughter.

0:36:45.640 --> 0:36:49.080
<v Speaker 3>Hundreds of unarmed Lacta civilians were murdered by the United

0:36:49.120 --> 0:36:50.520
<v Speaker 3>States military in the battle.

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<v Speaker 2>This was just a massacre.

0:36:51.920 --> 0:36:56.000
<v Speaker 3>There were significant casualties for the US military, most of

0:36:56.040 --> 0:36:59.479
<v Speaker 3>them were caused by the US military, a friendly fire

0:36:59.520 --> 0:37:03.760
<v Speaker 3>and completely disorganized slaughter of civilians. There was a standoff

0:37:03.760 --> 0:37:06.760
<v Speaker 3>at Wounded Lee later in the nineteen seventies in which

0:37:06.920 --> 0:37:10.560
<v Speaker 3>two Indigenous people died one went missing. You can read

0:37:10.960 --> 0:37:13.000
<v Speaker 3>Mary brave Bird's book about that if you want a

0:37:13.040 --> 0:37:15.759
<v Speaker 3>first hand account fat it's very good book. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>Hegseth is doing this, I think because Lloyd Austin had

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<v Speaker 3>previously ordered a review of those medals, because they weren't fighting,

0:37:23.640 --> 0:37:26.560
<v Speaker 3>they were just killing people. Therefore, it makes sense, you know,

0:37:26.640 --> 0:37:29.680
<v Speaker 3>that led to strip these these medals of honor, in

0:37:29.760 --> 0:37:31.640
<v Speaker 3>that there was very little honor in what they did.

0:37:31.960 --> 0:37:35.120
<v Speaker 3>Hegseth has restored those very amusingly, he said, this is final,

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<v Speaker 3>like another SECTEF couldn't just order a review like in

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<v Speaker 3>four years and change it again. CBP has also issued

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<v Speaker 3>a request for comments here in San Diego about its

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<v Speaker 3>plans to build seven point six miles of war west

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<v Speaker 3>of Dakat as well as one point three miles of

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<v Speaker 3>wall east of Dakat, more secondary barrier east of O

0:37:55.280 --> 0:37:59.759
<v Speaker 3>tim Mesa, and install or maintain fifty one miles of

0:38:00.080 --> 0:38:04.040
<v Speaker 3>quote barrier system attributes, which may include fiber uptic cables,

0:38:04.160 --> 0:38:08.239
<v Speaker 3>lighting poles, artificial lights, power cables, surveillance cameras, access and

0:38:08.320 --> 0:38:10.600
<v Speaker 3>patrol roads, and utility shelters.

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<v Speaker 2>What this would do.

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<v Speaker 3>I think most people who haven't spent time at the

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<v Speaker 3>border in not aware that there are vast gaps in

0:38:17.200 --> 0:38:21.319
<v Speaker 3>the border wall right, and this would close some of those.

0:38:21.640 --> 0:38:25.120
<v Speaker 3>There are still gaps east of this area. When a

0:38:25.160 --> 0:38:26.880
<v Speaker 3>lot of people were entering in twenty twenty three, they

0:38:26.920 --> 0:38:29.479
<v Speaker 3>were coming east of here in a more mountainous area.

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<v Speaker 3>But this will close existing gaps in the wall around

0:38:33.360 --> 0:38:37.040
<v Speaker 3>takat Ara and Marin Valley. I imagine that after that

0:38:37.280 --> 0:38:40.920
<v Speaker 3>they will continue to move east the areas where there

0:38:40.960 --> 0:38:42.920
<v Speaker 3>are gaps. Some of the area's where the gaps for

0:38:42.960 --> 0:38:44.799
<v Speaker 3>the east aren't that hard to access. Some of them

0:38:45.400 --> 0:38:49.480
<v Speaker 3>would be very hard to access with construction machinery, and

0:38:49.520 --> 0:38:51.680
<v Speaker 3>therefore they'd have to spend a long time building a

0:38:51.800 --> 0:38:56.120
<v Speaker 3>road before they could even begin building the wall. Reuters

0:38:56.400 --> 0:38:59.439
<v Speaker 3>has conducted a review of more than two million court

0:38:59.520 --> 0:39:03.840
<v Speaker 3>records and concluded that federal prosecution of drug cases, especially

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<v Speaker 3>those of high profile traffickers, have dropped to the lowest

0:39:07.800 --> 0:39:11.520
<v Speaker 3>level in decades. Fell forward again a word, yeah, yeah,

0:39:11.600 --> 0:39:16.480
<v Speaker 3>I mean normally you would see things like racketeering, money laundering,

0:39:16.600 --> 0:39:19.680
<v Speaker 3>conspiracy charges, right, but these are down twenty four percent

0:39:19.800 --> 0:39:24.200
<v Speaker 3>compared to last year. Even ongoing investigations have stalled as

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<v Speaker 3>a federal law enforcement apparatus is focusing the vast majority

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<v Speaker 3>of its people on deporting people who have not been

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<v Speaker 3>accused of any crime.

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<v Speaker 2>Really, and even just like the regular FBI investigative capacity,

0:39:33.640 --> 0:39:37.800
<v Speaker 2>it has been shifted massive large extents towards just immigration enforcement.

0:39:38.160 --> 0:39:41.040
<v Speaker 2>So they're not they're actually just not going after as

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<v Speaker 2>much like actual crime.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I think some agencies like the Bureau of Alcohol

0:39:47.120 --> 0:39:49.319
<v Speaker 3>to back of firearms and explosive for example, I think

0:39:49.360 --> 0:39:53.879
<v Speaker 3>have the majority of their agents tasks to immigration rates

0:39:53.960 --> 0:39:57.239
<v Speaker 3>right now. The FBI one agent described what he had

0:39:57.280 --> 0:40:01.399
<v Speaker 3>been tasked with as quote photo op bullshit shit, which

0:40:01.560 --> 0:40:04.960
<v Speaker 3>was taking photos of their teams on and before raids

0:40:05.000 --> 0:40:07.440
<v Speaker 3>for use by the ADF and the White House in

0:40:08.000 --> 0:40:11.879
<v Speaker 3>social media posts. So they do appay to have. I've

0:40:11.960 --> 0:40:16.000
<v Speaker 3>lost the support of even some federal law enforcement. Talking

0:40:16.120 --> 0:40:19.359
<v Speaker 3>of federal law enforcement, we have also learned this week

0:40:19.400 --> 0:40:22.960
<v Speaker 3>about an FBI operation during the Biden administration during which

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<v Speaker 3>Tom Homan allegedly accepted fifty thousand dollars in cash. What

0:40:28.239 --> 0:40:31.600
<v Speaker 3>you didn't hear about the Tom Homan bag of Yeah,

0:40:34.280 --> 0:40:36.080
<v Speaker 3>what a joy to be able to share this with

0:40:36.160 --> 0:40:39.080
<v Speaker 3>you going to get better, Just just keep it, keep

0:40:39.160 --> 0:40:46.320
<v Speaker 3>simmered down, a simmer down, simmer down, sima down. So

0:40:46.800 --> 0:40:49.000
<v Speaker 3>Tom Homan, for those who are not familiar, is Trump's

0:40:49.080 --> 0:40:52.200
<v Speaker 3>borders are and a longtime border security official dating back

0:40:52.239 --> 0:40:55.400
<v Speaker 3>to the Biden administration. Let's find out about how they

0:40:55.560 --> 0:40:59.239
<v Speaker 3>got on to Tom Homan said that there was fifty

0:40:59.280 --> 0:41:02.399
<v Speaker 3>dollars in care but for what Just wait wait, wait

0:41:02.520 --> 0:41:08.680
<v Speaker 3>wait wait. Another Obama era I staffer, Juliancalderas, who agents

0:41:08.760 --> 0:41:11.600
<v Speaker 3>undercover agents had contacted as part of a separate investigation,

0:41:12.120 --> 0:41:14.880
<v Speaker 3>repeatedly suggested to the agents that they may wish to

0:41:14.960 --> 0:41:20.520
<v Speaker 3>bribe Homan in order to obtain government contracts. Kyl Deris

0:41:20.840 --> 0:41:24.279
<v Speaker 3>repeatedly suggested this to the undercover agents, so much so

0:41:24.800 --> 0:41:28.319
<v Speaker 3>that they diverted their investigation and set up this investigation.

0:41:29.040 --> 0:41:32.080
<v Speaker 3>They gave Home and the money, but waited to see

0:41:32.239 --> 0:41:35.680
<v Speaker 3>what he would do in office in order to see.

0:41:36.480 --> 0:41:38.200
<v Speaker 3>I guess they felt they would have a stronger case

0:41:38.440 --> 0:41:39.800
<v Speaker 3>if he came back to them and said, you know,

0:41:39.880 --> 0:41:42.200
<v Speaker 3>I have these five federal contracts, which one would you like?

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<v Speaker 3>The Trump DOJ took no further steps to investigate and

0:41:46.480 --> 0:41:50.040
<v Speaker 3>has closed the investigation. According to NBC, the Trump administration

0:41:50.160 --> 0:41:52.200
<v Speaker 3>is claiming this was a set up by the FBI,

0:41:52.719 --> 0:41:55.839
<v Speaker 3>but of course the investigation occurred in September of twenty four,

0:41:56.040 --> 0:41:59.360
<v Speaker 3>so before the election. Again, it was not an investigation

0:41:59.480 --> 0:42:02.400
<v Speaker 3>that they started on. It branched off because car Thereus

0:42:02.560 --> 0:42:06.160
<v Speaker 3>repeatedly suggested that they should continue to they should try

0:42:06.239 --> 0:42:10.560
<v Speaker 3>and bribe Home. The agents who who did this operation

0:42:10.640 --> 0:42:14.160
<v Speaker 3>were posing his businessman trying to get government contracts. Right, OK,

0:42:14.719 --> 0:42:18.880
<v Speaker 3>This might explain so Homan was a big time Trump affiliate, right,

0:42:19.280 --> 0:42:22.279
<v Speaker 3>big time Trump supporting. Yeah, people were suggesting that he

0:42:22.600 --> 0:42:26.960
<v Speaker 3>might be made Secretary of Homeland Security. This might be

0:42:27.160 --> 0:42:30.720
<v Speaker 3>why we will never know official right, This might explain

0:42:30.800 --> 0:42:34.160
<v Speaker 3>why he's been given a slightly less formal role which

0:42:34.200 --> 0:42:36.200
<v Speaker 3>I don't believe. He has to pass through Congress, which

0:42:36.239 --> 0:42:37.520
<v Speaker 3>is quite unquote borders za.

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<v Speaker 2>This is like the level of normalized corruption which exists

0:42:42.719 --> 0:42:46.560
<v Speaker 2>in every level of this administration is like remember when

0:42:46.760 --> 0:42:49.239
<v Speaker 2>they just could not stop talking about Hunter hide in

0:42:49.320 --> 0:42:53.239
<v Speaker 2>it all the time. And meanwhile you have like like

0:42:53.360 --> 0:42:55.480
<v Speaker 2>you know, like all of like Jared Kushner's dealings with

0:42:55.719 --> 0:42:59.480
<v Speaker 2>like Saudi is the tom hooman getting fifty thousand dollars

0:43:00.160 --> 0:43:04.839
<v Speaker 2>in cash, Yeah, recover he'sents posing US businessman to help

0:43:04.880 --> 0:43:10.240
<v Speaker 2>obtain like government contracts. It's like an absurd comical cartoon world.

0:43:10.440 --> 0:43:12.560
<v Speaker 3>So it's Keystone cop shit. We don't know if he's

0:43:12.600 --> 0:43:13.640
<v Speaker 3>given the cash back.

0:43:14.040 --> 0:43:20.719
<v Speaker 6>Oh that cash, Oh god, so much cocaine, Like I

0:43:20.760 --> 0:43:21.920
<v Speaker 6>could either confirm her did I?

0:43:22.040 --> 0:43:25.960
<v Speaker 3>It was spent on cocaine? Yeah, a world incidence of corruption.

0:43:26.080 --> 0:43:26.600
<v Speaker 2>Oh god.

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<v Speaker 3>Finally, I want to talk about Venezuela. In Venezuela, it

0:43:31.360 --> 0:43:33.840
<v Speaker 3>seems that Stephen Miller has been taking the lead on

0:43:33.960 --> 0:43:36.879
<v Speaker 3>strikes on alleged drug smugglers. According to a Guardian piece,

0:43:37.239 --> 0:43:40.759
<v Speaker 3>the strikes have been authorized by the Homeland Security count Shure.

0:43:41.360 --> 0:43:44.200
<v Speaker 3>That's a body that Miller leaves, which has massively grown

0:43:44.239 --> 0:43:47.880
<v Speaker 3>in influence since the Trump administration. It seems like most

0:43:47.920 --> 0:43:49.960
<v Speaker 3>people in the administration were pretty much kept in the

0:43:50.080 --> 0:43:54.839
<v Speaker 3>duck about this until very shortly before the strikes took place.

0:43:55.600 --> 0:43:58.319
<v Speaker 3>They were just find under the Article two powers, which

0:43:58.400 --> 0:44:00.680
<v Speaker 3>give the president authority to use force in limited self

0:44:00.680 --> 0:44:05.319
<v Speaker 3>defense engagements. But it seems like Miller is the pun

0:44:05.440 --> 0:44:09.560
<v Speaker 3>driving the ship on this increased violence that we're seeing

0:44:09.560 --> 0:44:10.400
<v Speaker 3>against Venezuela.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, we are back for our final story this episode.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to talk about the National Security Presidential Memorandums

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<v Speaker 2>number seven, titled Countering Domestic Terrorism and Organized Political Violence,

0:44:40.800 --> 0:44:43.840
<v Speaker 2>which was signed by President Donald Trump on Thursday, September

0:44:44.000 --> 0:44:49.400
<v Speaker 2>twenty fifth. This relates in many ways to the Antifa

0:44:49.680 --> 0:44:53.120
<v Speaker 2>Domestic Terrorism Executive Order from last week, but this memo

0:44:53.200 --> 0:44:56.720
<v Speaker 2>is a lot more clear in outlining actual policy changes

0:44:57.040 --> 0:45:00.839
<v Speaker 2>that will affect law enforcement investigations. So let's go over

0:45:01.560 --> 0:45:05.480
<v Speaker 2>the four sections of this very very long memo. I've

0:45:05.520 --> 0:45:07.400
<v Speaker 2>tried to condense it down as much as possible, but

0:45:07.600 --> 0:45:09.160
<v Speaker 2>there is some good information in here too.

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<v Speaker 5>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>Section one asserts that there's been an increase in political

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<v Speaker 2>violence in recent years, with assassinations and quote unquote riots

0:45:16.400 --> 0:45:19.160
<v Speaker 2>in Los Angeles and Portland, which have resulted into more

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<v Speaker 2>than one thousand percent increase in attacks against ice officers

0:45:22.520 --> 0:45:25.759
<v Speaker 2>since Trump's inauguration two point zero. The memo states that

0:45:25.920 --> 0:45:30.080
<v Speaker 2>riots and violence aren't organic events or isolated incidents, but

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<v Speaker 2>in fact, quote a culmination of a sophisticated, organized campaigns

0:45:35.440 --> 0:45:38.760
<v Speaker 2>of targeted intimidation, radicalization, threats, and violence designed to silence

0:45:38.760 --> 0:45:42.320
<v Speaker 2>of posting speech, limit political activity, change or direct policy outcomes,

0:45:42.520 --> 0:45:46.640
<v Speaker 2>and prevent the functioning of a democratic society. Unquote.

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<v Speaker 3>If we've spoken about the statistic about attacks and ICE

0:45:50.120 --> 0:45:52.279
<v Speaker 3>officers before and how that's very misleading.

0:45:52.960 --> 0:45:55.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean an ICE officer is attacked when of

0:45:56.080 --> 0:46:01.280
<v Speaker 2>ice officer's fist encounters the face of a child that's

0:46:02.120 --> 0:46:03.120
<v Speaker 2>Latino grandmother.

0:46:03.280 --> 0:46:06.239
<v Speaker 3>R yes, uh, Latina grandmother in that case.

0:46:06.560 --> 0:46:09.120
<v Speaker 2>Well, and a lot of this talking about, you know,

0:46:09.360 --> 0:46:11.840
<v Speaker 2>riots is not organized depends us at an incidents what

0:46:12.120 --> 0:46:14.320
<v Speaker 2>they describe here is this like a culmination of the

0:46:14.400 --> 0:46:18.000
<v Speaker 2>sophisticated campaign. This is just describing like the process of

0:46:18.080 --> 0:46:21.200
<v Speaker 2>like what protesting is right trying to direct or change

0:46:21.239 --> 0:46:23.960
<v Speaker 2>policy outcomes, which comes up a lot in these like

0:46:24.040 --> 0:46:27.760
<v Speaker 2>domestic terrorism laws, which when over applied to just nonviolent

0:46:27.840 --> 0:46:32.200
<v Speaker 2>acts of speech, just start infringing upon very standard First

0:46:32.200 --> 0:46:32.960
<v Speaker 2>Amendment activity.

0:46:33.000 --> 0:46:35.800
<v Speaker 3>It's one of the five fundamental freedoms of the First Amendment,

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<v Speaker 3>right like the right to assemble. The right was several

0:46:37.840 --> 0:46:39.640
<v Speaker 3>of them, actually, the right to assemble, the right to speak,

0:46:39.640 --> 0:46:42.320
<v Speaker 3>the right to petition the government, like these are fundamental.

0:46:42.440 --> 0:46:44.840
<v Speaker 2>The right to twitch stream at a riot as a

0:46:44.920 --> 0:46:46.040
<v Speaker 2>free member of the press.

0:46:46.080 --> 0:46:49.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, definitely, that's not a right that I choose to exercise,

0:46:49.600 --> 0:46:52.719
<v Speaker 3>but I guess it is one that exists. But you

0:46:52.840 --> 0:46:54.400
<v Speaker 3>and I have you were important and I was in

0:46:54.480 --> 0:46:57.319
<v Speaker 3>Los Angeles. Like the idea that these cities were fundamentally

0:46:57.440 --> 0:46:59.839
<v Speaker 3>like damaged by these protests, it's just not true.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, and they're not just talking about damage from riots,

0:47:02.840 --> 0:47:06.520
<v Speaker 2>they're also talking about, you know, effects on individual citizens.

0:47:06.640 --> 0:47:09.879
<v Speaker 2>This memo describes how these you know, organized campaigns start

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<v Speaker 2>by quote isolating and dehumanizing specific targets to justify murder

0:47:14.640 --> 0:47:18.840
<v Speaker 2>or other violent action unquote, claiming that this process happens

0:47:18.880 --> 0:47:23.640
<v Speaker 2>across quote anonymous chat forums, in person meetings, the social media,

0:47:23.719 --> 0:47:27.560
<v Speaker 2>and even educational institutions. These campaigns then escalate to organized

0:47:27.600 --> 0:47:31.480
<v Speaker 2>docsing with the explicit intent of encouraging others to harass, intimidate,

0:47:31.800 --> 0:47:34.400
<v Speaker 2>or violently assault targets en quote.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean this is what the right has done to

0:47:39.520 --> 0:47:43.719
<v Speaker 3>like express especially migrants and trand people right for for

0:47:43.760 --> 0:47:47.000
<v Speaker 3>a very long time. Anonymous chat forums. And do they

0:47:47.080 --> 0:47:47.319
<v Speaker 3>mean a.

0:47:47.320 --> 0:47:50.520
<v Speaker 2>Reddit credits telegram maybe?

0:47:51.200 --> 0:47:55.160
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I know, I know that some subreddits have been

0:47:55.280 --> 0:48:00.640
<v Speaker 3>closed since the issuing of this memorandum, which and wondering

0:48:00.960 --> 0:48:02.840
<v Speaker 3>if it is related.

0:48:02.800 --> 0:48:05.080
<v Speaker 2>Not explicitly, but like I think this memos would be

0:48:05.440 --> 0:48:08.520
<v Speaker 2>in this section like referring to things akin to ice Watch.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, yeah, yeah, that makes a lot of sense as

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<v Speaker 3>well as.

0:48:10.760 --> 0:48:14.320
<v Speaker 2>You know standard like you know, anti fascist action against

0:48:14.560 --> 0:48:18.640
<v Speaker 2>like legitimate neo Nazis, which, yeah, the right is not

0:48:18.920 --> 0:48:21.479
<v Speaker 2>against a dooxing as a practice, as we have seen

0:48:21.960 --> 0:48:25.680
<v Speaker 2>a few weeks with the state sponsored organized doxing harassment

0:48:25.719 --> 0:48:29.120
<v Speaker 2>campaigns against people for their comments about the death of

0:48:29.200 --> 0:48:31.800
<v Speaker 2>Charlie Kirk. Yeah, the memo goes on to list a

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<v Speaker 2>collection of quote common recurrent motivations and indica or indicators

0:48:37.160 --> 0:48:40.439
<v Speaker 2>that unite this pattern of violence and terroristic activities under

0:48:40.440 --> 0:48:45.160
<v Speaker 2>the umbrella of self described anti fascism. These movements portray

0:48:45.480 --> 0:48:49.160
<v Speaker 2>foundational American principles support for law enforcement and border control

0:48:49.440 --> 0:48:53.880
<v Speaker 2>as fascist to justify and encourage acts of a violent revolution.

0:48:54.480 --> 0:48:59.640
<v Speaker 2>Common threads animating this violent conduct include anti Americanism, anti

0:48:59.719 --> 0:49:03.439
<v Speaker 2>cap anti Christianity, support for the overthrow of the United

0:49:03.440 --> 0:49:07.640
<v Speaker 2>States government, extremism on migration, race and gender, and hostility

0:49:07.680 --> 0:49:11.600
<v Speaker 2>towards those who hold traditional American views on family, religion,

0:49:11.760 --> 0:49:15.319
<v Speaker 2>and morality unquote. So in so far as this memo

0:49:15.360 --> 0:49:18.960
<v Speaker 2>has been reported, it's mostly been on this specific section here,

0:49:20.120 --> 0:49:25.319
<v Speaker 2>listing the indicators that could be driving terroristic acts under

0:49:25.360 --> 0:49:29.280
<v Speaker 2>the umbrella of anti fascism, including all of these beliefs

0:49:29.320 --> 0:49:32.280
<v Speaker 2>that people are allowed to hold in the United States

0:49:32.760 --> 0:49:34.839
<v Speaker 2>due to the rights granted to us and the Bill

0:49:34.840 --> 0:49:35.760
<v Speaker 2>of Rights in the Constitution.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean, the hypocrisi is the point, and it's

0:49:39.160 --> 0:49:41.160
<v Speaker 3>sometimes not worth it. It's not the point, but it's

0:49:41.200 --> 0:49:43.520
<v Speaker 3>not particularly you know, it doesn't change anything I'm pointing out,

0:49:43.520 --> 0:49:45.239
<v Speaker 3>But I will just point out that the idea that

0:49:45.600 --> 0:49:49.080
<v Speaker 3>border control is a foundational American principle is not true.

0:49:49.560 --> 0:49:51.880
<v Speaker 3>That it was not until the Chinese Exclusion Act that

0:49:51.920 --> 0:49:55.080
<v Speaker 3>the United States began to exclude anyone from coming here,

0:49:55.120 --> 0:49:58.399
<v Speaker 3>and that was in the nineteenth century. History understanders will

0:49:59.160 --> 0:50:01.959
<v Speaker 3>have noticed, so the United States began at some point

0:50:02.120 --> 0:50:04.200
<v Speaker 3>before the nineteenth century.

0:50:04.800 --> 0:50:08.920
<v Speaker 2>One thing I will say regarding this section, some reporting

0:50:08.960 --> 0:50:11.960
<v Speaker 2>around this memo is framing things like, you know, anti

0:50:12.080 --> 0:50:14.759
<v Speaker 2>capitalism or anti Christianity is now that is going to

0:50:14.800 --> 0:50:18.360
<v Speaker 2>be used as evidence that you are a terrorist. That

0:50:18.520 --> 0:50:21.720
<v Speaker 2>is not the explicit way is written about in this memo.

0:50:22.160 --> 0:50:25.960
<v Speaker 2>These are indicators which if some investigator sees on a

0:50:26.120 --> 0:50:29.359
<v Speaker 2>Twitter account or a blue Sky account, could then cause

0:50:29.440 --> 0:50:32.719
<v Speaker 2>them to investigate further into this personal group. But it's

0:50:32.760 --> 0:50:36.920
<v Speaker 2>not like just expressing these things will itself deem you

0:50:37.160 --> 0:50:39.440
<v Speaker 2>a terrorist and be putting you in jail. And this

0:50:39.840 --> 0:50:42.960
<v Speaker 2>does rely on action. Now, the memo does go on

0:50:43.080 --> 0:50:46.040
<v Speaker 2>to talk about trying to prevent crime before it happens.

0:50:46.880 --> 0:50:48.360
<v Speaker 2>I think this would be more in the way of

0:50:48.480 --> 0:50:51.640
<v Speaker 2>how the FBI tries to set up like sting operations

0:50:51.719 --> 0:50:54.880
<v Speaker 2>or catch people who are planning a violent act before

0:50:54.960 --> 0:50:57.279
<v Speaker 2>they actually do it. Yeah, as we've even seen the

0:50:57.320 --> 0:51:01.760
<v Speaker 2>past few weeks with people being arrested for planning retaliation

0:51:02.000 --> 0:51:05.840
<v Speaker 2>attacks following the death of Charlie Kirk. This has happened.

0:51:06.360 --> 0:51:06.560
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:51:06.800 --> 0:51:10.200
<v Speaker 2>Now, the memo calls for a new national law enforcement

0:51:10.200 --> 0:51:13.759
<v Speaker 2>strategy to quote investigate all participants in these criminal and

0:51:13.960 --> 0:51:18.880
<v Speaker 2>terroristic conspiracies and disrupt networks, entities and organizations that foment

0:51:19.120 --> 0:51:23.239
<v Speaker 2>political violence. That law enforcement can intervene in criminal conspiracies

0:51:23.680 --> 0:51:27.800
<v Speaker 2>before they result in violent political acts unquote. So that

0:51:28.040 --> 0:51:32.120
<v Speaker 2>is the pre crime aspect of this order which they

0:51:32.200 --> 0:51:35.440
<v Speaker 2>could use some of these beliefs like right extremism on

0:51:35.560 --> 0:51:40.719
<v Speaker 2>migration or race or gender, anti americanism as justification to

0:51:40.760 --> 0:51:45.279
<v Speaker 2>start investigating groups, which then arrests could follow prior to

0:51:45.960 --> 0:51:49.720
<v Speaker 2>imminent violent act as deemed by federal law enforcement.

0:51:50.320 --> 0:51:53.280
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I mean, in theory, the role of the effectially

0:51:53.320 --> 0:51:56.319
<v Speaker 3>federal law enforcement has always been to investigate people who

0:51:56.360 --> 0:52:00.200
<v Speaker 3>were planning violent or terroristic acts. The difference here that

0:52:00.280 --> 0:52:03.920
<v Speaker 3>this is being specifically framed around a certain group, and

0:52:04.239 --> 0:52:07.640
<v Speaker 3>this probably will lead to more attempts by their more

0:52:07.760 --> 0:52:10.800
<v Speaker 3>surveillance on people within exactly groups.

0:52:10.920 --> 0:52:14.279
<v Speaker 2>Right now, this is very worrying in terms of like surveillance,

0:52:14.520 --> 0:52:18.240
<v Speaker 2>suppressing speech, chilling speech, because what they're qualifying as violent

0:52:18.400 --> 0:52:22.400
<v Speaker 2>terroristic gas is just ordinary protest activity, first man protests activity,

0:52:22.960 --> 0:52:28.560
<v Speaker 2>non government organizations that support progressive causes or values. That's

0:52:28.719 --> 0:52:30.480
<v Speaker 2>the real concern here.

0:52:30.800 --> 0:52:34.760
<v Speaker 3>It's worth stating here that in Los Angeles, for example,

0:52:34.800 --> 0:52:37.520
<v Speaker 3>a number of grand juries did not return indictments of

0:52:37.640 --> 0:52:41.640
<v Speaker 3>people who were accused of quite serious crimes that the

0:52:41.719 --> 0:52:44.280
<v Speaker 3>grand jury did not think it was reasonable to indict

0:52:44.320 --> 0:52:47.440
<v Speaker 3>them for right. This is unusual. Most federal prosecutions do

0:52:48.640 --> 0:52:51.040
<v Speaker 3>result ultimately in a guilty plea right because they bring

0:52:51.239 --> 0:52:54.279
<v Speaker 3>very strong cases when they bring them. But it's worth

0:52:54.360 --> 0:52:59.000
<v Speaker 3>noting that the specifically, like the US Attorney's Office in

0:52:59.040 --> 0:53:00.960
<v Speaker 3>Los Angeles, has not stuck their landing on all of

0:53:01.000 --> 0:53:03.759
<v Speaker 3>its attempts to indict people for things that they did

0:53:03.880 --> 0:53:05.640
<v Speaker 3>during that time of protest in June.

0:53:06.320 --> 0:53:10.080
<v Speaker 2>In terms of like implementation, the memo says, quote law

0:53:10.160 --> 0:53:15.080
<v Speaker 2>enforcement will disband and uproot networks entities and organizations that

0:53:15.239 --> 0:53:19.879
<v Speaker 2>promote organized violence, violent intimidation, conspiracies against rights, and other

0:53:20.239 --> 0:53:24.400
<v Speaker 2>efforts to disrupt the functioning of a democratic society. Unquote

0:53:25.160 --> 0:53:31.320
<v Speaker 2>networks entities organizations. These refer to like established organizations, like

0:53:31.440 --> 0:53:36.799
<v Speaker 2>actual like formed groups that have political activity. Now, Section

0:53:36.920 --> 0:53:40.600
<v Speaker 2>two outlines how the National Joint Terrorism Task Force will

0:53:40.680 --> 0:53:46.160
<v Speaker 2>quote unquote coordinate and supervise a new comprehensive national strategy

0:53:46.840 --> 0:53:49.680
<v Speaker 2>and orders the local Joint Terrorism Task Force around the

0:53:49.680 --> 0:53:54.640
<v Speaker 2>country to quote investigate potential federal crimes relating to acts

0:53:54.719 --> 0:53:59.560
<v Speaker 2>of recruiting or radicalizing persons for the purpose of political violence, terrorism,

0:53:59.560 --> 0:54:03.719
<v Speaker 2>conspiracy against rights, or the violent deprivation of any citizens'

0:54:03.840 --> 0:54:09.200
<v Speaker 2>rights unquote. The GDTFS, Joint Terrors and Passport will also

0:54:09.320 --> 0:54:15.399
<v Speaker 2>investigate institutional and individual funders, including employees of organizations which

0:54:15.400 --> 0:54:19.120
<v Speaker 2>are quote responsible for sponsor or otherwise the A and

0:54:19.160 --> 0:54:23.120
<v Speaker 2>EVET the principal actors engaging in the criminal conduct as

0:54:23.280 --> 0:54:24.680
<v Speaker 2>previously described.

0:54:25.200 --> 0:54:27.920
<v Speaker 3>That's a broad neet, right, There's.

0:54:27.719 --> 0:54:29.480
<v Speaker 2>A lot of this stuff, like the anti for order

0:54:29.520 --> 0:54:31.919
<v Speaker 2>also alluded to this. Trump's statements made in the Oval

0:54:31.920 --> 0:54:36.120
<v Speaker 2>Office have alluded to this going after funders, foreign funders,

0:54:36.200 --> 0:54:39.640
<v Speaker 2>whether that's the groups like the ACLU or like bail

0:54:39.800 --> 0:54:43.640
<v Speaker 2>funds they mentioned George Sorows very often, Yeah, the Open

0:54:43.680 --> 0:54:45.840
<v Speaker 2>Society Foundation, right, Yeah, I.

0:54:45.880 --> 0:54:48.360
<v Speaker 3>Think the right has had a fascination with sorrows for

0:54:48.440 --> 0:54:50.960
<v Speaker 3>a long time, Right, They've been looking for a reason

0:54:51.320 --> 0:54:54.560
<v Speaker 3>to either exclude Sorrows from participation in US politics and

0:54:54.680 --> 0:54:57.160
<v Speaker 3>just to be like obviously, I think most people realize this,

0:54:57.280 --> 0:55:00.080
<v Speaker 3>but that that fascination is rooted deeply in antisemitis, and

0:55:00.200 --> 0:55:03.680
<v Speaker 3>George Soros is a Holocaust survivor, and there has been

0:55:03.800 --> 0:55:07.680
<v Speaker 3>like an attempt to find reasons to exclude sorrows from

0:55:07.800 --> 0:55:10.760
<v Speaker 3>US political activity for some time. I think it's reasonable

0:55:10.800 --> 0:55:11.760
<v Speaker 3>to see this in that trend.

0:55:12.360 --> 0:55:15.120
<v Speaker 2>This sort of like big organizations foreign organizations is also

0:55:15.200 --> 0:55:17.920
<v Speaker 2>mentioned in this memo and saying the investigation will include

0:55:18.280 --> 0:55:22.719
<v Speaker 2>NGOs and American citizens with foreign ties that could be

0:55:22.880 --> 0:55:26.360
<v Speaker 2>in violation of the Foreign Agents Registration Act or quote

0:55:26.600 --> 0:55:29.680
<v Speaker 2>money laundering by funding, creating, or supporting entities that engaging

0:55:29.719 --> 0:55:34.600
<v Speaker 2>activities that support encouraged domestic terrorism unquote. The memo states

0:55:34.640 --> 0:55:37.920
<v Speaker 2>that the Attorney General shall issue guidance which ensures that

0:55:38.040 --> 0:55:43.239
<v Speaker 2>domestic terrorism priorities include quote politically motivated terrorist acts such

0:55:43.280 --> 0:55:50.520
<v Speaker 2>as organized docsing campaigns, swatting, rioting, looting, trespass, assault, damage

0:55:50.560 --> 0:55:53.839
<v Speaker 2>of property, threats of violence, and civil disorder. The guides

0:55:53.840 --> 0:55:57.280
<v Speaker 2>shall also include an identification of any behaviors, fact patterns,

0:55:57.360 --> 0:56:01.560
<v Speaker 2>recurrent motivations, or other indica common to organizations and these

0:56:01.560 --> 0:56:03.719
<v Speaker 2>that coordinate these acts in order to direct efforts to

0:56:03.760 --> 0:56:07.320
<v Speaker 2>identify and prevent potential violent activity. Unquote. This is a

0:56:07.400 --> 0:56:10.000
<v Speaker 2>worrying list of things that are not domestic terrorism that

0:56:10.080 --> 0:56:14.680
<v Speaker 2>they're going to try to claim our domestic terrorism. Trespass. Yeah,

0:56:15.200 --> 0:56:19.200
<v Speaker 2>like trespassing is now domestic terrorism. That's not a great

0:56:19.280 --> 0:56:21.800
<v Speaker 2>thing for the Attorney General to be issuing guidance on.

0:56:22.480 --> 0:56:27.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, civil disorder is a very broad and somewhat nebulous term, right, Like.

0:56:27.680 --> 0:56:31.080
<v Speaker 2>Are they going to call the organized doxing campaigns that

0:56:31.200 --> 0:56:34.279
<v Speaker 2>the right is doing right now domestic terrorism? No, of

0:56:34.360 --> 0:56:37.600
<v Speaker 2>course not right, These things are just taking form for

0:56:37.800 --> 0:56:42.040
<v Speaker 2>explicit like political prosecution, for the political ends of Trump administration.

0:56:42.560 --> 0:56:43.960
<v Speaker 3>I think the goal hit like some of these are

0:56:43.960 --> 0:56:45.800
<v Speaker 3>reason even a statue, right, Like, I'm not aware of

0:56:46.120 --> 0:56:50.160
<v Speaker 3>a broad federal doxing statute aside from you know, certain

0:56:50.200 --> 0:56:52.480
<v Speaker 3>specific instances where it might be a crime to reveal

0:56:52.560 --> 0:56:53.400
<v Speaker 3>someone's address.

0:56:54.120 --> 0:56:57.440
<v Speaker 2>Violent intimidation of probably like federal law enforcement would be

0:56:57.560 --> 0:56:58.600
<v Speaker 2>one thing that they go after.

0:56:59.080 --> 0:57:03.719
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, federal law enforcement people with protective orders that kind

0:57:03.719 --> 0:57:06.400
<v Speaker 3>of thing, right, And yeah, there are probably ways of

0:57:06.520 --> 0:57:08.279
<v Speaker 3>doing that, but I think a lot of this is

0:57:08.920 --> 0:57:11.840
<v Speaker 3>intended to have a chilling effect on speech and organizing.

0:57:12.280 --> 0:57:14.920
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, the Treasury Secretary will work with EA turn in

0:57:15.000 --> 0:57:17.760
<v Speaker 2>general to quote identify and disrupt financial networks at funded

0:57:17.760 --> 0:57:21.040
<v Speaker 2>domestic terrorism and political activity, and shall deploy investigative tools,

0:57:21.320 --> 0:57:24.000
<v Speaker 2>examine financial flows, and coordinate with partner agencies to trace

0:57:24.000 --> 0:57:27.840
<v Speaker 2>illicit funding streams unquote. Again, very obsessed with this idea

0:57:27.920 --> 0:57:31.919
<v Speaker 2>that there's tons of money that is funding Antifa, which

0:57:31.960 --> 0:57:34.760
<v Speaker 2>if you know anyone under the Antifa umbrella, you know

0:57:34.880 --> 0:57:38.520
<v Speaker 2>that they are extremely bro Yeah, yeah, this is left

0:57:38.560 --> 0:57:42.040
<v Speaker 2>wing protesters are not the most financially stable budget. Yeah,

0:57:42.160 --> 0:57:45.960
<v Speaker 2>there's not this illicit funding streams. This is a huge,

0:57:46.040 --> 0:57:48.400
<v Speaker 2>a huge idea that the right has like latched on.

0:57:49.000 --> 0:57:52.000
<v Speaker 3>Ironically, this is something that the right shares with the

0:57:52.040 --> 0:57:55.840
<v Speaker 3>authoritarian left. Actually, the idea that people can't act independently

0:57:55.960 --> 0:57:59.480
<v Speaker 3>unless there is a large, well funded actor motivating them

0:57:59.520 --> 0:58:02.680
<v Speaker 3>to act. It's something that because the authoritarian right and

0:58:02.720 --> 0:58:05.480
<v Speaker 3>the authoritarian left agree on some things, and one of

0:58:05.520 --> 0:58:09.360
<v Speaker 3>them is that like people can't take the initiative to act, right,

0:58:09.400 --> 0:58:11.920
<v Speaker 3>that there has to be some kind of vanguard in

0:58:12.000 --> 0:58:15.920
<v Speaker 3>the case of the authoritarian left, or nefarious funder in

0:58:15.960 --> 0:58:18.760
<v Speaker 3>the case of the authoritarian right. And so this this

0:58:18.920 --> 0:58:20.800
<v Speaker 3>lines up with the way that they understand the world.

0:58:21.080 --> 0:58:23.600
<v Speaker 2>I mean, yeah, and I was talking specifically here in

0:58:23.680 --> 0:58:27.880
<v Speaker 2>terms of like regular people on the ground attending protests.

0:58:27.920 --> 0:58:30.800
<v Speaker 2>There's like big, big groups like you know, often like

0:58:30.880 --> 0:58:33.440
<v Speaker 2>you know, communist A line groups that may be receiving funding,

0:58:33.520 --> 0:58:37.160
<v Speaker 2>possibly from foreign sources. Yeah, yeah, yeah, for real, But

0:58:37.880 --> 0:58:40.520
<v Speaker 2>I do not believe that is what this order is,

0:58:40.640 --> 0:58:43.080
<v Speaker 2>at least this section is actually wanting to go after.

0:58:43.360 --> 0:58:45.360
<v Speaker 2>That might be what they in the end actually end

0:58:45.480 --> 0:58:47.720
<v Speaker 2>up targeting, end up sweeping up because it's the only

0:58:47.760 --> 0:58:50.120
<v Speaker 2>thing that actually has like you know, foreign funding. But

0:58:50.360 --> 0:58:53.920
<v Speaker 2>like you know, capital a Antifa teenagers with like umbrellas

0:58:53.960 --> 0:58:55.800
<v Speaker 2>showing up in front of an ice building are not

0:58:55.920 --> 0:58:58.560
<v Speaker 2>receiving money from like Iran, China or Russia.

0:58:58.720 --> 0:59:02.160
<v Speaker 3>Like, yeah, as you say, it might be large as

0:59:02.240 --> 0:59:06.960
<v Speaker 3>Southern Policy Law Center, the ACLU, Open Society Foundation, built.

0:59:06.800 --> 0:59:07.920
<v Speaker 2>Gate Network for Strong Community.

0:59:08.000 --> 0:59:10.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, like some of these organizations might be what they're

0:59:10.600 --> 0:59:12.920
<v Speaker 3>trying to drag a net over here.

0:59:13.320 --> 0:59:17.240
<v Speaker 2>Or nonprofits. The next section instructs the IRS to quote

0:59:17.360 --> 0:59:20.720
<v Speaker 2>take action to ensure that no tax exempt entities are

0:59:20.840 --> 0:59:26.960
<v Speaker 2>directly or indirectly financing political violence or domestic terrorism unquote,

0:59:27.440 --> 0:59:31.000
<v Speaker 2>and calls for the IRS to refer suspect organizations and

0:59:31.120 --> 0:59:34.160
<v Speaker 2>their employees to the Department of Justice for investigation and

0:59:34.280 --> 0:59:35.480
<v Speaker 2>possible prosecution.

0:59:36.360 --> 0:59:39.280
<v Speaker 3>It's probably worth noting the context here that there was.

0:59:39.960 --> 0:59:43.160
<v Speaker 3>This is after a twenty ten congressional investigation that found

0:59:43.160 --> 0:59:45.760
<v Speaker 3>out that the IRS had gone after some Tea party groups. Right,

0:59:46.200 --> 0:59:48.240
<v Speaker 3>do you remember the Tea Party Garrison? You or seven

0:59:48.280 --> 0:59:48.760
<v Speaker 3>at that time?

0:59:49.400 --> 0:59:51.440
<v Speaker 2>I remember the Tea Party, Yeah, yeah.

0:59:51.800 --> 0:59:56.040
<v Speaker 3>So the feeling here Biden, if you remember, Garrison also

0:59:56.160 --> 0:59:58.760
<v Speaker 3>hired a number of new IRS agents. There was a

0:59:58.840 --> 1:00:03.240
<v Speaker 3>conspiracy theory that the were to provide some kind of armed, massive,

1:00:03.360 --> 1:00:05.680
<v Speaker 3>armed element to the IRS that was going around in

1:00:05.760 --> 1:00:10.120
<v Speaker 3>the Biden administration. I'm sure the IRS had an armed element, right.

1:00:10.120 --> 1:00:12.880
<v Speaker 3>There is not a federal investigative agency that doesn't, like

1:00:13.240 --> 1:00:16.040
<v Speaker 3>the Postal Service, has cops and probably a swat team.

1:00:16.640 --> 1:00:19.960
<v Speaker 3>But there was a feeling on the right that Biden

1:00:20.040 --> 1:00:24.200
<v Speaker 3>mobilized the IRS against right wing individuals, and I can

1:00:24.280 --> 1:00:27.320
<v Speaker 3>see this being the old Pantue'm swinging back in the

1:00:27.360 --> 1:00:28.360
<v Speaker 3>other direction a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the more interesting sections that I've highlighted of

1:00:33.240 --> 1:00:38.160
<v Speaker 2>the memo instructs investigators to quote question and interrogate individuals

1:00:38.280 --> 1:00:42.560
<v Speaker 2>engaged in political violence or lawlessness regarding the entity or

1:00:42.720 --> 1:00:48.520
<v Speaker 2>individual organizing such actions and any related financial sponsorship prior

1:00:48.640 --> 1:00:53.640
<v Speaker 2>to perfect comjunication or initiation of a plea agreement unquote.

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<v Speaker 2>That's directing like the interrogations of people arrested at protests,

1:00:58.400 --> 1:01:01.360
<v Speaker 2>like specifically go after who funding them to be a protest.

1:01:01.480 --> 1:01:04.120
<v Speaker 2>I'm sure some very fruitful information will come out of

1:01:05.560 --> 1:01:09.000
<v Speaker 2>referring back to our discussion of like, you know, the

1:01:09.440 --> 1:01:12.960
<v Speaker 2>common motivators are Indica, including things you know like anti capitalism,

1:01:13.000 --> 1:01:16.440
<v Speaker 2>anti Americanism, and how those beliefs in and of themselves

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<v Speaker 2>I do not think will be sufficient for declaring someone

1:01:19.320 --> 1:01:22.400
<v Speaker 2>a terrorist and like locking them up. Is because later

1:01:22.560 --> 1:01:28.000
<v Speaker 2>in this memo, the memo directs investigations to quote prioritize

1:01:28.200 --> 1:01:32.440
<v Speaker 2>crimes such as the following assaulting federal officers or employees,

1:01:32.640 --> 1:01:36.280
<v Speaker 2>conspiracy against rights, conspiracy to commit offense, solicitation to commit

1:01:36.360 --> 1:01:39.520
<v Speaker 2>a crime of violence, money laundering, funding of terrorist acts,

1:01:39.600 --> 1:01:44.520
<v Speaker 2>or otherwise facilitating terrorism arson, violations of the u Rico Act,

1:01:44.920 --> 1:01:49.640
<v Speaker 2>and major fraud against the United States unquote. So could

1:01:49.720 --> 1:01:54.000
<v Speaker 2>the government use these indicators to then find groups to target,

1:01:54.200 --> 1:01:58.120
<v Speaker 2>to stick some of these crimes onto groups or organizations. Absolutely,

1:01:58.280 --> 1:01:59.600
<v Speaker 2>that's probably what they're going to do.

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<v Speaker 7>M h.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, But these these are the things to like be

1:02:04.120 --> 1:02:06.840
<v Speaker 2>aware of, and they're going to try to, you know,

1:02:06.920 --> 1:02:09.320
<v Speaker 2>slap these on people who are just arrested at protests,

1:02:09.360 --> 1:02:13.040
<v Speaker 2>people who work for NGOs, people who work for legal

1:02:13.080 --> 1:02:18.480
<v Speaker 2>support networks, maybe migrant assistance networks like that's that's going

1:02:18.560 --> 1:02:21.680
<v Speaker 2>to be the target for a lot of these things.

1:02:21.760 --> 1:02:24.400
<v Speaker 2>And we've seen some of these like conspiracy charges in

1:02:24.520 --> 1:02:28.040
<v Speaker 2>San Diego with their with their Antifa prosecution case. We've

1:02:28.080 --> 1:02:31.480
<v Speaker 2>seen similar stuff in Atlanta with Stop Cop City. Right,

1:02:31.520 --> 1:02:34.600
<v Speaker 2>there is precedent for this. We've seen the state try

1:02:34.680 --> 1:02:38.360
<v Speaker 2>to and to a degree of success and failure, actually

1:02:38.440 --> 1:02:39.840
<v Speaker 2>push these charges forward.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>The panic that those two cases created, I think, and

1:02:44.320 --> 1:02:48.200
<v Speaker 3>we we're still pre you know, trial in the Atlantic case, right,

1:02:48.840 --> 1:02:51.959
<v Speaker 3>trials in progress. Yeah, yeah, sorry, pre uh, I guess

1:02:52.120 --> 1:02:53.280
<v Speaker 3>a conclusion of that trial.

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<v Speaker 2>But the current indication is that most of these record

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<v Speaker 2>charges are not going to stick.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, and most of the conspiracy charges and San Diego

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<v Speaker 3>did not write and most of those people ended up

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<v Speaker 3>not being convicted of all the things they were accused of.

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<v Speaker 3>I do see the major fraud against the United States,

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<v Speaker 3>and I think that's probably going to use against NGOs.

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<v Speaker 3>I do also wonder they have spoken before about the

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<v Speaker 3>Payroll Protection Plan and looking at PPP fraud.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean financial crimes are always are always really scary,

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<v Speaker 2>right like.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, like a lot of nonprofits, you know, like

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<v Speaker 3>people undoubtedly given a scare of the PPP people abused it.

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<v Speaker 3>I think nonprofits would be a lot more buttoned up

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<v Speaker 3>than almost anyone else in that regard, you know, these

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<v Speaker 3>especially these big liberal nonprofits. But that is an area

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<v Speaker 3>which I'm sure that the Trump I R s will

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<v Speaker 3>be looking at.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and they might even try to slap these on

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<v Speaker 2>people making jokes or quote unquote threats online right solicitation

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<v Speaker 2>to commit a crime of violence.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, Yeah. People shouldn't be saying stupid shit on

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<v Speaker 3>social media right.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, which which is absolutely like a chilling speech, right

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<v Speaker 2>that is that that is a bad thing. But you

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<v Speaker 2>don't want to give these people extra ammunition to use

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<v Speaker 2>against yourself. Right now.

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<v Speaker 3>Fighting words are not always like First Amendment speech right

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<v Speaker 3>now now, Like I'm no expect in where that starts

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<v Speaker 3>and where that ends. But yet, yeah, like in terms

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<v Speaker 3>of not doing stupid things, like this is not a

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<v Speaker 3>time to do stupid things on your posting website of choice.

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<v Speaker 2>Section two closes by calling for investigators in federal police

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<v Speaker 2>to quote adopt strategies similar to those used to address

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<v Speaker 2>violent crime and organized crime to disrupt and dismantle entire

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<v Speaker 2>networks of criminal activity unquote. So yeah, especially with all

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<v Speaker 2>this financial stuff, money laundering, rico, conspiracy charges, they're basically

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<v Speaker 2>using or they want to use like tactics to take

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<v Speaker 2>down like organized crime rings just targeting their political enemies,

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<v Speaker 2>targeting political organizations and people who attend protests like that

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<v Speaker 2>is that is the real gist of this memo. Section

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<v Speaker 2>three instructs the Eturney General to designate qualifying groups or

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<v Speaker 2>entities under investigation as domestic terrorist organizations per the definition

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<v Speaker 2>of domestic terrorism in eighteen USC. Two three three one five,

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<v Speaker 2>and to submit a list of such groups to the

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<v Speaker 2>President of the United States. And Section four instructs the

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<v Speaker 2>Attorney General and Secretary of Homeland Security to designate domestic

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<v Speaker 2>terrorism a National Priority area and provide extra funding for

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<v Speaker 2>law enforcement to quote, detect, prevent, and protect against threats

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<v Speaker 2>arising from this area. That is the bulk of the

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<v Speaker 2>National Security Presdential Memorandum number seven, promising to chill speech

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<v Speaker 2>and go after political opponents and organizations, entities and individuals

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<v Speaker 2>and employees of organizations. Yeah, very very undemocratic, very very

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<v Speaker 2>on its face authoritarian. Yeah, you don't even need like

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<v Speaker 2>like allegations of political targets. Like they're writing down how

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<v Speaker 2>they want to do political targeting, they're bragging about it.

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<v Speaker 3>It's really what briefly want to raise the example of

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<v Speaker 3>the flag burning. Right, so Donald Trump signed an executive

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<v Speaker 3>order ordering the Justice Department to investigate flag burning earlier

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<v Speaker 3>this year. I can't quite remember when. Subsequently, someone called

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<v Speaker 3>jan Carey of North Carolina was arrested after they burned

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<v Speaker 3>a flag, an American flag, just to be clear outside

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<v Speaker 3>the White House, I guess the flag burning executive order

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't apply to like you're you know, like anime flag

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<v Speaker 3>or whatever, specifically about the flag of the United States,

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<v Speaker 3>something which I think Johnson versus Texas is a Supreme

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<v Speaker 3>Court case, right, But there is a considerable amount of

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<v Speaker 3>legal precedent, that is First Amendment speech. Kerry was arrested.

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<v Speaker 3>What is being missed in the discussion is that Kerry

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<v Speaker 3>was charged with two misdemeanor crimes. One was for lighting

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<v Speaker 3>a fire not in a designated area and receptacle. The

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<v Speaker 3>other was for lighting a fire in a manner that

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<v Speaker 3>threatened to cause damage to a resulted in the burning

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<v Speaker 3>of property, real property and park resources. These are both

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<v Speaker 3>offensives and you can be incarcerated or fined for I

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<v Speaker 3>want people to know that, right Like, he was not

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<v Speaker 3>arrested because of the executive order, although the executive order

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<v Speaker 3>may very much influenced the climate which led to his

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<v Speaker 3>arrest in charge with these other things, but he wasn't

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<v Speaker 3>charged with violating the executive order because that is not

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<v Speaker 3>how it works.

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<v Speaker 2>They can't change the law with executive orders or presidential memorandums.

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<v Speaker 2>What they can do is direct how the law will

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<v Speaker 2>be enforced or policy guidelines, right, and that's what this

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<v Speaker 2>is affecting. Right now, all of these branches, like the DHS,

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<v Speaker 2>Justice Department, Federal Police are going to be following the

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<v Speaker 2>policy guidelines and outlines established in this memo to then

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<v Speaker 2>try to enforce the laws that we have, some of

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<v Speaker 2>which they will probably find ways to do it, and

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes they won't.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we have a very broad range of statute's criminalizing

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<v Speaker 3>a very large range of things, and someone will find

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<v Speaker 3>some way in there to criminalize someone for something that

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<v Speaker 3>might seem on the face of it to be not nefarious.

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<v Speaker 3>But that doesn't mean that we have executive legisative fusion.

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<v Speaker 3>We don't write yourself too proind to the government. And

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<v Speaker 3>that is important to remember too.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no laws have been changed criminalizing anti americanism, right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that is that is an important thing to keep in mind.

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<v Speaker 2>That does not mean that this order is not going

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<v Speaker 2>to chill speech, suppress free speech, or be used to

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<v Speaker 2>criminally target people. Yeah, criminal prosecutions can ruin the lives

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<v Speaker 2>of people for years and years, regardless of the actual outcome, right,

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<v Speaker 2>even if they get off on the charges. And totally

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<v Speaker 2>we want to be clear that we're not like minimizing

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<v Speaker 2>the effects of this, but we do want to actually

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<v Speaker 2>break down what like the threat model is specifically for

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<v Speaker 2>like NGO's legal organizations that help protesters or migrants, LGBTQ organizations, right,

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<v Speaker 2>these are probably going to be the first targets of

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of like the conspiracy fraud sections of disorder. Besides,

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<v Speaker 2>you know protesters that get rounded up and get put

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<v Speaker 2>into into this like political war game that they're playing,

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<v Speaker 2>similar to how regular protesters in Atlanta then found themselves

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<v Speaker 2>suddenly admitst like a three year long Rico domestic terrorism

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<v Speaker 2>case despite not participating in any kind of large organized

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<v Speaker 2>aspect of Stop Coop City. They were just regular attendees.

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<v Speaker 2>So there'll be stuff similar to that that happens throughout

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<v Speaker 2>the next few months to years, and I think that

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<v Speaker 2>is where we should keep our attention focused on mitigating

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<v Speaker 2>the harms of government overreach.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. So for the fund raise this week, something slightly different.

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<v Speaker 3>I wanted to read of this GoFundMe for the emergency

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<v Speaker 3>circus they are traveling south of the US border. I

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<v Speaker 3>believe they're going to migrant shelters in Tijuana to hold

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<v Speaker 3>circus acts circus performances for kids. I have obviously, obviously,

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<v Speaker 3>but I've spent a decent amount of my life in

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<v Speaker 3>refugee camps and migrant shelters and they can be pretty

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<v Speaker 3>hard places for kids. And it's something that I think

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<v Speaker 3>about almost every day, and so people bringing joy to

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<v Speaker 3>their children is something that I think is wonderful and

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<v Speaker 3>very important. People you get the impression that like legal

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<v Speaker 3>funds are important and the kids having a laugh is

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<v Speaker 3>not important, But like children have a right to be children,

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<v Speaker 3>and that's taken away from them by the immigration system.

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<v Speaker 2>Before we close the episode, but I will tease an

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<v Speaker 2>episode for next week. There was a shooting at a

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<v Speaker 2>Mormon church on Sunday, which the right briefly tried to

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<v Speaker 2>turn into like this culture war narrative I attacks on Christianity,

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<v Speaker 2>and then once information about the shooter became more clear,

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<v Speaker 2>they quickly dropped the subject. So on Wednesday, I'll be

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<v Speaker 2>doing an episode talking about this shooting and a few

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<v Speaker 2>others and how various outlets on the right end left

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<v Speaker 2>are only reporting on these big shootings insofar as they

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<v Speaker 2>can turn them into political weapons against the opposition party.

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