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Speaker 1: Hey guys, Sunday Sampler coming up four Things with Amy Brown,

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Speaker 1: The Sore Losers and Me with Stone Cold Steve Boston.

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Speaker 1: You're here a clip of that we're gonna start with

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Speaker 1: this week. On Take This Personally, Morgan talked with a

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Speaker 1: relationship coach about finding the right person for you and

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Speaker 1: how you know you're ready to date. She also had

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Speaker 1: Morgan number one on to talk about past relationships. Boy

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Speaker 1: does she have some stories. Okay, let's get started with

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Speaker 1: a clip from Take This Personally with Morgan Hulsman.

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Speaker 2: I'm giggling because this weekend, I'm joined by Morgan and

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Speaker 2: this is our take two, Take two and action. It's

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Speaker 2: back to my life. Experiences and everything that I have

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Speaker 2: been through have allowed me to be who I am today,

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Speaker 2: and who I am today is freaking awesome, and I'm

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Speaker 2: just really tired of people trying to take that away

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Speaker 2: from me. And I've had enough. That's where I'm at.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm pretty chill, and I'm pretty fun and

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Speaker 2: you know, not crazy, Like I just kind of do

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Speaker 2: my thing and float and I just I let one

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Speaker 2: bad egg in once that really just sucked all of

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Speaker 2: that out of me. I mean, I was a shell

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Speaker 2: of myself and I was like, I cannot let this

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Speaker 2: happen again. You go through enough of that, and you know,

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Speaker 2: it's kind of like some of those memes.

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Speaker 3: You protect your piece a little too.

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Speaker 2: Hard, and then you're you're laying on the couch watching

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Speaker 2: Pride and Prejudice and cooking chili and you're living your best.

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Speaker 2: But then you're also like, should I be maybe take

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Speaker 2: a stroll and meeting a human? We do, We do

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Speaker 2: need to work on that for you, because you do

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Speaker 2: need to get out there a little bit more. There

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Speaker 2: is a level of this, like yes, it will find

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Speaker 2: you and it's going to happen, but there is a

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Speaker 2: level of still work you.

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Speaker 4: Have to put in.

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Speaker 2: Part of me wants to set up Hinge and I'm

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Speaker 2: kind of over the Nashville dating scene, so I want

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Speaker 2: to set up hinge to.

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Speaker 4: Where the area is.

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Speaker 2: Okay, hear me out is are you about to jail again?

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Speaker 2: Because but kind of closer to where I'm from. You

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Speaker 2: want to move back home. Look, I don't know that

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Speaker 2: I want to make back count. You moved out at

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Speaker 2: home for a reason, Okay, but damn like life changes,

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Speaker 2: you know, I want to be prior you can still

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Speaker 2: have your country life.

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Speaker 5: You're in Nashville.

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Speaker 2: Well, what I'm saying is, maybe I find a nice

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Speaker 2: West Tennessee boy. Can they be like just country in

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Speaker 2: general word? Does it have to be West Tennessee specifically? Well,

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Speaker 2: trying to figure out how narrow the search goes.

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Speaker 6: It can't be.

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Speaker 7: It can't be.

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Speaker 2: Nashville like Alabama. Alabama's close, Okay, I mean I'm tucky. Listen,

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Speaker 2: Maybe I start with one area code at a time,

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Speaker 2: you know, and just see how it goes. But my

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Speaker 2: thought process is to go a little bit on the

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Speaker 2: outskirts of town or like people that you know, Okay,

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Speaker 2: and we can do that figure out if that's more successful.

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Speaker 2: I mean, part of dating is trying things, and at

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Speaker 2: this point you're not trying anything. So I'm gonna I've

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Speaker 2: already told you the country boys you date or match

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Speaker 2: with on the apps that are holding dead animals just

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Speaker 2: pushed them my direction.

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Speaker 8: I did.

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Speaker 2: You know What's funny is there was one guy I

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Speaker 2: matched with on a dating app and I knew I

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Speaker 2: wasn't gonna date him because he had all these honey

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Speaker 2: and he had liked me, and I was like, he's

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Speaker 2: literally poor guy, with the intent of saying, hey, I

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Speaker 2: have a friend for you, but I'm not gonna work.

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Speaker 2: Oh god, do not remember this? And I text you

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Speaker 2: and you guys texted for a brief moment or for

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Speaker 2: a split second. But I don't think the guy was

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Speaker 2: The hunting was there. There was a few things missing there,

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Speaker 2: but but I did try.

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Speaker 2: You don't like a fishing photo when they're holding up

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Speaker 2: a dead fish or usually they're alive catch and release.

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Speaker 2: I don't mind the fish ones as much, but it

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Speaker 2: tends to follow with the dead deer and the my guy, sorry,

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Speaker 2: we can't even look at it. I have photos of deer.

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Speaker 2: I know you do, and I love that for you,

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Speaker 2: and I will not show them to you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but you know that you know that.

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Speaker 4: And this is why.

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Speaker 2: In an apocalypse, that's what I see that man can't provide.

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Speaker 2: I need a man who's gonna go pick me some berries.

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Speaker 8: Oh God.

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Speaker 2: I want a man that can put meat on the

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Speaker 2: table and berries.

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Speaker 10: Maybe this is why, Oh.

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Speaker 2: God, I want to end something to be fun, because

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Speaker 2: you're gonna be back on this podcast at some way, but.

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Speaker 11: For now, I feel like we just are so off

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Speaker 11: the rails.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's always great, Like we had a lot

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Speaker 2: of great moments there. But I an end on a

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Speaker 2: bad date story because I think our bad dates are funny.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think they're great to share. So let's

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Speaker 3: end on a funny note.

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Speaker 4: Okay.

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Speaker 2: I did once go on a date with a guy

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Speaker 2: we were supposed to. It was our second date. This

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Speaker 2: has been a long time ago now. It was our

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Speaker 2: second date. We were gonna go to a Sounds baseball

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Speaker 2: Von l Rods at barn or back downtown, but it

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Speaker 2: was going to be a group paying so my roommate

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Speaker 2: at the time, like a lot of her coworkers, were

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Speaker 2: going to the bar too. We were all gonna meet

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Speaker 2: at Von l Rod's as well as this guy that

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Speaker 2: I was going on a second date with. Me and

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Speaker 2: my roommate are going over together. We're a few minutes,

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Speaker 2: He had made it to the bar a few minutes later,

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Speaker 10: We show up and he.

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Speaker 2: Is already hitted off with a girl that's friends like

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Speaker 2: with my roommates, like grouped.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and so we're all going.

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Speaker 2: To be sitting in this same section together and they've

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Speaker 2: already hit it off, like exchange numbers. And when I

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Speaker 2: which I don't do the drama, like who cares? Like

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Speaker 2: they pulled me in the bathroom? You know, we have

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Speaker 2: what happened? And they're like they were all but making

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Speaker 2: I was like, I think I'm good, Like you should

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Speaker 2: definitely reach out to let's call our Heather. Reach out

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Speaker 2: to Heather, like maybe it'll be a better fit.

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Speaker 3: You know, cause did you say that?

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Speaker 8: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: And they did end up going out, which again, like

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Speaker 2: all is fair in love and war if you're not

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Speaker 13: But you found your other person at the bar.

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Speaker 2: It was just it was just it's more shocking.

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Speaker 12: Than he was like wanting to go out with me again.

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Speaker 2: I was perplexed. He probably wanted to try, and you

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Speaker 12: With both of us.

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Speaker 2: Their casual dating isn't bad, but like in that city,

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Speaker 14: What do you do now that's fulfilling because for us,

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Speaker 14: like I see on social media holding the chicken and stuff,

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Speaker 14: like I see like you doing little things around here,

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Speaker 14: But like what now is exciting to you?

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Speaker 15: You know?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I do the chores around here. We live on

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Speaker 8: forty acres. We got hoares with chickens and a couple

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Speaker 8: all that stuff. Competitively, what I found lately is racing,

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Speaker 8: you know, side by sides, you know, utility vehicles. I've

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Speaker 8: been a brand ambassad for Kawasaki Motorsports is twenty fifteen,

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Speaker 8: the Mule division, the Workhorse brand, and then I was

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Speaker 8: filming the show last year that turned into a bomb,

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Speaker 8: but I got a chance to One of the producers

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Speaker 8: asked me, Hey, do you want to do a poker run?

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Speaker 8: And I said, what the fuck is a poker run?

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Speaker 8: Because I don't play cards.

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Speaker 8: So a poker run as it uh, you know, pertains

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Speaker 8: past weekend. Each lap was fifty five miles out in

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Speaker 8: the desert. So on that poker run, basically you're pre

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Speaker 8: running the course that you're going to run the next

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Speaker 8: wanted to poker in? Who had the worst hand. It's

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Speaker 8: kind of entertainment. But that's how I found racing side

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Speaker 8: with it, and it's just so different from anything I've

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Speaker 8: I lived in Georgia and the mud hunting and side

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Speaker 8: by sides, but just recreationally. And when you start racing

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Speaker 8: something and pushing the machine to its limits and pushing

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Speaker 8: yourself to your limits, which you don't know that you

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Speaker 8: have yet because you've never driven at one hundred percent,

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Speaker 8: it takes a while to learn how to do that.

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Speaker 8: So I equated with when I first started wrestling, I sucked,

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Speaker 8: and when I first started driving these things. I won't

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Speaker 8: say I sucked, but I had a lot to learn.

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Speaker 8: And the biggest mistake you making pro wrestling trying to

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Speaker 8: get is trying to do everything too fast and racing

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Speaker 8: the I tell you, And it didn't make sense to

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Speaker 8: me until I ran a few races. Uh. In order

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Speaker 8: to you know to drive fast, you must first learn

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Speaker 8: to drive slow. I mean like when you was born,

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Speaker 8: you started crawling right.

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Speaker 14: No, I was actually balancing on one foot. I was

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Speaker 14: pretty I came out of the room amazing, I was.

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Speaker 8: Told, But you don't come out and just start running

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Speaker 8: that's true. Same thing, that's true, same thing with racing,

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Speaker 10: So I don't understand the side by side. Do you

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Speaker 10: the same partner?

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Speaker 8: Yeah. My co driver is a guy named Shane Kissman.

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Speaker 8: They owned the race team that I raced with when

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Speaker 17: We're gonna do it live we Oh, the one, two,

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Speaker 10: much money are you missing out on?

439
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Speaker 17: What you're not realizing is every business does that unless

440
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Speaker 17: mom and pop are working there, or the manager's on staff,

441
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Speaker 17: or it's a bustling restaurant that basically has to stay

442
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Speaker 17: open if not later than their hours posted.

443
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Speaker 10: Think about this.

444
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Speaker 17: The telephone telecommunications industry when I used to it, right,

445
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Speaker 17: when I used to work in groundy communications, I sold telephone,

446
00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:43,960
Speaker 17: computer and internet, telephone, internet and cable TV. Dude, when

447
00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:47,960
Speaker 17: it was eight forty five, all you gotta do tap

448
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Speaker 17: the old uh hang up button. Then it looks like

449
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Speaker 17: you're busy. You just do it a little bit. Nobody

450
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Speaker 17: really called after eight thirty, So once you started creepingto

451
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Speaker 17: eight fifty eight fifty five, you would get busted if

452
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Speaker 17: you just held it because it shows it, that shows

453
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Speaker 17: records of it. But it doesn't show records if you

454
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Speaker 17: just tap it, so there's no there. Our managers would

455
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Speaker 17: check out seven forty five. They want to go be

456
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Speaker 17: with their family, So eight hits you kind of gotta

457
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Speaker 17: still be studious.

458
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Speaker 10: Eight thirty start thinking about it.

459
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Speaker 17: Eight forty so if somebody had called and you tap

460
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Speaker 17: it, it busys it, so then it gives it to somebody

461
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Speaker 17: else in the call center. But when everybody's doing that,

462
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Speaker 17: the callers could be like, oh my, like why are

463
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Speaker 17: your foe? They could have complained and been like, why

464
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Speaker 17: are your phone's busy? But you start getting closer to nine,

465
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Speaker 17: and everybody's just kind of doing it, pushing the phone

466
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Speaker 17: around the phone's lines. Do you get away with it?

467
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Speaker 17: Because then you're like, then the caller's like a fit,

468
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Speaker 17: you know what. They're all busiest near nine. It makes

469
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Speaker 17: sense if we'd have done that at six, our manager

470
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Speaker 17: would have found out and there would have been audits

471
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Speaker 17: and records of us making phone lines busy.

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Speaker 10: At six. Eight fifty five, the caller just kind of

473
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Speaker 10: gets it. Everybody's heading home. I guess I should have

474
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Speaker 10: understood that because when I flew out of Nashville, my

475
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Speaker 10: flight left at six pm, right and I was leaving

476
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Speaker 10: my house and it usually takes about twenty minutes to

477
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Speaker 10: get to the airport. Well, don't give your exact address,

478
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Speaker 10: and so my wife was like, you better get going.

479
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Speaker 10: I'm like, no, it only takes twenty minutes. So I

480
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Speaker 10: was like, I'll leave at four thirties. Since the flight

481
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Speaker 10: leaves at six, I'll get there at five. I'll have

482
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Speaker 10: an hour, I'll grab something neat cool. I get the

483
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Speaker 10: car at four thirty and I type it let me

484
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Speaker 10: see what they're saying, forty five minutes to the airport

485
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Speaker 10: the worst. And I'm like, oh my god, okay, cool, cool.

486
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Speaker 10: So I'm taking all these back roads, like it's taking

487
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Speaker 10: me on back roads. I'm not even on the highway.

488
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Speaker 10: And I called my dad and I'm like, hey, man,

489
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Speaker 10: just letting you making sure you're gonna pick me up.

490
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Speaker 10: He's like, you're already at the airport. I was like no.

491
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Speaker 10: It says I'm gonna arrive at five twenty and my

492
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Speaker 10: flight leaves at six. He's like, oh my god, thank goodness,

493
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Speaker 10: Rai's not with you. Kid.

494
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Speaker 5: Cut through Terrytown. You're gonna want to go on one

495
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Speaker 5: of those little shortcuts to Mopak that'll take you all

496
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Speaker 5: the way home to the birds. You are now free

497
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Speaker 5: to fly without the country.

498
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Speaker 10: And so I'm pulling into the airport, and yes, I'd

499
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Speaker 10: be fucking freaking out. He was like, And I'm sitting

500
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Speaker 10: there on the highway. Find that get on the highway

501
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Speaker 10: where it tells me to. And I'm like, man, this

502
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Speaker 10: traffic is bad. Now. It says I'm gonna get there

503
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Speaker 10: at five twenty two. It says boarding is it five

504
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Speaker 10: twenty And I'm like, oh my gosh. So I am

505
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Speaker 10: sitting there and I pull into the parking lot. He's

506
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Speaker 10: about to pull in. I pull up to the Nashville

507
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Speaker 10: Airport at five twenty three pm. Wait, I thought we

508
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Speaker 10: were stilling on.

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Speaker 8: No.

510
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Speaker 10: No, I should have known that the Austin Airport closes

511
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Speaker 10: at seven because of this.

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Speaker 17: Oh, I had trouble with your story. I know, okay, kid,

513
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Speaker 17: So I disregard Terrytown. You're actually gonna go kid on

514
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Speaker 17: sixty five twenty four cutover to Knoxville and they're up there.

515
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Speaker 10: So I may have kid those directions in Nashville. Kid,

516
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Speaker 10: I know my directions everywhere, so he's finding the major arteries.

517
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Speaker 10: I parked the car in the lot. No shuttle at

518
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Speaker 10: what time? Five point twenty three? Noted because I wasn't

519
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Speaker 10: about to park, and the cover parking because it was

520
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Speaker 10: forty five dollars a day. I was like, I ain't

521
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Speaker 10: paying that. There's no way that ain't that much. But okay,

522
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Speaker 10: I looked it up on my phone. It's thirty three.

523
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Speaker 17: No, yeah, well could I park there for five days before?

524
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Speaker 10: And anyway? So I'm just sitting there waiting for the shuttle.

525
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Speaker 10: Shut shuttle rolls up at five twenty seven and I'm like,

526
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Speaker 10: all right, we gotta go, we gotta go. He's like,

527
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Speaker 10: what airline? I said, just get me to the I

528
00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:23,880
Speaker 10: don't care what airline. I just first stop, I'm jumping off,

529
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Speaker 10: like I don't care Frontier because I'm not checking a bag,

530
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Speaker 10: So I don't care what airline I get off. I

531
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Speaker 10: just need to get in the doors and get their security.

532
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Speaker 10: Oh here you are. You're all set at Qatar air,

533
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Speaker 10: but not that one. Go a couple more days. Yeah, yeah,

534
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Speaker 10: we're not doing that, airline sorr. Yeah, yeah, we're not

535
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Speaker 10: going to caught arm Yeah you're all down, free to

536
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Speaker 10: fly to Dubai what I was kidding and go farther

537
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Speaker 10: and so I'm on the shuttle and we pull up

538
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Speaker 10: to one shuttle stop. No one's there. Cool. Next one,

539
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Speaker 10: there is a guy walking from half a row down

540
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Speaker 10: like just I mean, just taking his damn time.

541
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Speaker 17: Either you're out that door waving him in, or you're

542
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Speaker 17: telling the driver slipping him a one and say keep going.

543
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Speaker 10: Pop. The bus driver opens the door and the guy

544
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Speaker 10: just acts like we're not waiting on him. He just

545
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Speaker 10: kind of oh, no, looking up at the clouds cause

546
00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:10,480
Speaker 10: it's looking like it's about to rain. And I'm like,

547
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Speaker 10: would you get on this bus already?

548
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Speaker 17: Dude, that's like a rapid type situation. Usually you're not

549
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Speaker 17: gonna see somebody walking towards it.

550
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Speaker 10: I mean, he didn't even oh, you're waiting for me?

551
00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:21,199
Speaker 10: Like here, I'll kind of hustle up.

552
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Speaker 9: No.

553
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Speaker 10: Then he opens his backpack before he gets on to

554
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Speaker 10: make sure he still has his keys. You're all good man.

555
00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:28,040
Speaker 10: I'm like, all right, get on the bus. You need

556
00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:29,919
Speaker 10: a phone charger. I got you, So we get it.

557
00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:32,000
Speaker 10: He gets on the bus and we're driving. I'm like, hey, yeah,

558
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Speaker 10: we're headed for the exit. There's no one up. Someone

559
00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:35,760
Speaker 10: walks up to the next stop, so we got to

560
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Speaker 10: stop and the guy gets on and he knows the

561
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Speaker 10: guy that takes forever and he's like, oh man, I

562
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Speaker 10: thought we had another hour. He goes, No, he goes,

563
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Speaker 10: I mean we still got an hour and twenty to

564
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Speaker 10: our flight. Flight leaves, we'll have time to get something

565
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Speaker 10: to eat. And I'm like, I have twenty one minutes

566
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Speaker 10: until my flight leaves. No, thirty one minutes because it's

567
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Speaker 10: five twenty nine at this point, Oh timeline, what was

568
00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:56,159
Speaker 10: I thinking? My flight leaves at six, And I'm like,

569
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Speaker 10: oh my god. So we pull up to the airport

570
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Speaker 10: and the guy is like, not stop it, and I'm like,

571
00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:03,000
Speaker 10: I just stand up, and he goes, you want off here.

572
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:05,520
Speaker 10: I'm like, yeah, that's good. You jumped wall the busy

573
00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:07,520
Speaker 10: believe he wasn't even no, he wasn't even go to

574
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Speaker 10: the curb. He was in the second lane. He was

575
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Speaker 10: in the second lane and I got out, so he

576
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Speaker 10: was not even at the curb when I got off

577
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Speaker 10: the damn bus. And I went in and I get

578
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Speaker 10: to the freaking checkpoint. It is now when I get

579
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Speaker 10: through security, it is five forty one, and I'm like okay,

580
00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:34,119
Speaker 10: and I'm like and it says boarding was at five twenty.

581
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:36,840
Speaker 10: So I'm like, they're fully boarded, and I'm all the

582
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Speaker 10: way at the very back of the damn airport. Never

583
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Speaker 10: gonna be at the front, can never be the first game.

584
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Speaker 17: It's the newly designed airport. Now it's spider webs and

585
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Speaker 17: it's compremental to Atlantas.

586
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Speaker 10: I was thinking, I'm gonna get dinner when I get

587
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Speaker 10: to the National Airport, get on the plane, will be good,

588
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Speaker 10: I'll won't be hungry, and I am sprinting through the

589
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Speaker 10: airport to my flight.

590
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Speaker 17: Always wanted to do it, but you get the chance

591
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Speaker 17: to actually do it.

592
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Speaker 10: I've done it numerous times because I like to really.

593
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Speaker 10: Oh man, I'm I like to push it with the

594
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Speaker 10: airport because I don't like to be sitting at an

595
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Speaker 10: airport for two hours. Dude.

596
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Speaker 17: Even Baser she thought we were gonna have to run

597
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Speaker 17: at the Atlanta Airport from kan Kun because we had

598
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Speaker 17: a connector in forty five minutes.

599
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Speaker 10: It was right next door. We walked two gates down.

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Speaker 17: I wanted to I was prepared to run, and I

601
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Speaker 17: still didn't get the opportunity.

602
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Speaker 10: And I run, run, run. I'm like, man, I gotta

603
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Speaker 10: fill up my water. I'm dying I'm so thirsty. I'm sweating.

604
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Speaker 17: Yeah, how's it going, brother, I wasn't out there doing

605
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Speaker 17: an air traffic controller. Man, get in there, fill.

606
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Speaker 10: Up your water bottle. So I'm there at the little

607
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Speaker 10: the water fountain filling up my water bottle. And it

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Speaker 10: tells me by filling up my water bottle, I was

609
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Speaker 10: number We've saved three hundred and sixty five twenty six

610
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:52,840
Speaker 10: plastic bottles from going to the landfill. And I get

611
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Speaker 10: it about a quarter of the way up and over

612
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Speaker 10: the announcement, they say, if you're on a flight number

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Speaker 10: one one sixty two heading to Austin, we have fully

614
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Speaker 10: bullet boarded the aircraft. If you are holding a ticket,

615
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Speaker 10: this is your last call to arrive at the gate.

616
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:09,000
Speaker 10: And I'm like, all right, here we go, and I say,

617
00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:10,800
Speaker 10: screw filling up the rounds of the water bone. I

618
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:13,600
Speaker 10: sprint to the plane. Heave the turtles on your own,

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Speaker 10: and I'm the last one on that damplane. Makes sense.

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Speaker 7: Hey, it's Mike d And This week on Movie Mike's

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Speaker 7: Movie Podcast, I sat down with director Carrie Belessa and

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Speaker 7: his wife and producer Summer Blessa to talk about their

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Speaker 7: new movie Amberlert why it took ten years to make,

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Speaker 7: how they manage marriage in the industry, and how they

625
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Speaker 7: turned a parent's worst nightmare into a story that they

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Speaker 7: hope starts a conversation.

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Speaker 6: So I want to share a little bit of this

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Speaker 6: with you.

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Speaker 7: Now, be sure to check out this full interview on

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Speaker 7: Movie Mike's movie podcast. But let's get to the interview now.

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Speaker 6: I feel like a lot of being a filmmaker, being

632
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Speaker 6: an artists is observing the world around you. I feel

633
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Speaker 6: like that's really the thing that defines like somebody who's

634
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Speaker 6: actually going to follow through with it is you observe

635
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Speaker 6: it also write it down and then execute it. Like

636
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Speaker 6: you've been talking about the filmmaking process, just like the

637
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Speaker 6: inspiration of this movie it came from seeing the Ambulla

638
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Speaker 6: and thinking, WHOA that should be a movie. Are you

639
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Speaker 6: constantly observing things and writing things down? Because the other day,

640
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Speaker 6: like I was on a flight and I sat down

641
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Speaker 6: on the exit rode and they're like, hey, if you

642
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Speaker 6: know something to do, that whole thing off something goes wrong,

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Speaker 6: like are you willing to help? And I just you know,

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Speaker 6: willing to say ah yeah, thinking in that moment of

645
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Speaker 6: like what if I actually had something actually went down

646
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Speaker 6: and I was put in that situation of I actually

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Speaker 6: have to do something now, and I was like, hey,

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Speaker 6: that could be something. Are you constantly observing things like that?

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Speaker 8: I made it.

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Speaker 16: I definitely Yeah, truth there's a lot more interesting than fiction.

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Speaker 16: Just reading the news. I mean I have a whole

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Speaker 16: little book plet of news art Culsetter just freezing for

653
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Speaker 16: me personally. I like saying that you possible, we happen

654
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Speaker 16: and then are real.

655
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Speaker 4: How about you?

656
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Speaker 11: Oh, I mean I feel like I kind of going

657
00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:10,680
Speaker 11: more in the fantasy or the romance from Calm World

658
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:11,720
Speaker 11: burns less.

659
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Speaker 13: I mean, it's still human nature.

660
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 3: It's still based on you know, relationships, but maybe the

661
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Speaker 3: less less news.

662
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Speaker 16: Driven or reality or probably like observing it seeing things

663
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Speaker 16: and like oh that might have to be all film,

664
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Speaker 16: But like what you're talking about is like it's like

665
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Speaker 16: some type of little scene there or set up.

666
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Speaker 6: You know, you just got to write it.

667
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:32,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, gotta deal with the next step.

668
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Speaker 6: As a filmmaker. What would be my next step on

669
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Speaker 6: that idea? Is it writing a title, writing a synopsis?

670
00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:40,920
Speaker 6: What is that when you sit down to like you

671
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:42,840
Speaker 6: just had this idea, what is that next step to

672
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Speaker 6: flesh out a script.

673
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Speaker 16: You just need to put in the paper like everything.

674
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Speaker 16: I mean that that's the hardest thing, is just getting

675
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Speaker 16: and even if you don't have the entire film down,

676
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:56,040
Speaker 16: or you just might have a scene, write the scene,

677
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Speaker 16: you know, if you have a first act, right, the

678
00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 16: first act, I just think and it's still difficult to

679
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:05,840
Speaker 16: like sit down, you know, a blank piece of paper.

680
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Speaker 16: It can be so overwhelming and so but it's it's

681
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Speaker 16: just putn't in the work.

682
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Speaker 3: Yeah, no one will make a film of just an idea.

683
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Speaker 11: So you need to have eventually it plushed out into

684
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Speaker 11: a full script and then you can share it and

685
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:26,760
Speaker 11: have people give you insight and hopefully up people who

686
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 11: are like, yeah, I see the vision too, let's go

687
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Speaker 11: think it.

688
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Speaker 6: That leaves me to my final two questions. We're sitting

689
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Speaker 6: here the night before the premiere here in Nashville. Are

690
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Speaker 6: you feeling the overwhelming joy of it finally being out

691
00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:43,320
Speaker 6: after ten years or are you feeling nervous about people

692
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Speaker 6: are going to react to it this week? Because I know,

693
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Speaker 6: as somebody who deals with reading the comments, reading getting

694
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:51,920
Speaker 6: all the messages, I don't see the ones they say, hey,

695
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:53,520
Speaker 6: and that was a great episode you did. That was

696
00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 6: a great interview. I see the ones they say this sucks,

697
00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:57,920
Speaker 6: like why did you put this hell? Like you used

698
00:32:57,960 --> 00:32:59,160
Speaker 6: to feel terrible.

699
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Speaker 16: The positive things and some ding Dong says you suck, Yeah,

700
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Speaker 16: and you just focus.

701
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Speaker 3: We feal it so hard. Yeah, it's definitely human nature.

702
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Speaker 16: I mean, I think now, being the old wise man

703
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:14,920
Speaker 16: that I am, that I don't read comments. I read

704
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:19,520
Speaker 16: comments and before I remember specifically a long time ago,

705
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 16: and like the comments made me feel like I was

706
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Speaker 16: like the grade I was Spielberg.

707
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Speaker 6: You know, some of these people are like this so bazy.

708
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:29,960
Speaker 16: I don't ever read comments.

709
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Speaker 6: You take it with the great to take with a

710
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Speaker 6: grain of salt, Like.

711
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Speaker 16: I love what we do, and I love this path

712
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:38,320
Speaker 16: that we've chosen his career, but I just love so

713
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:40,920
Speaker 16: many other things in life that bring me joy that

714
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:44,360
Speaker 16: no one's going to take us down over some comments

715
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:45,480
Speaker 16: that you're not doing.

716
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:46,160
Speaker 2: You know.

717
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Speaker 3: Yeah, you're not going to make everybody happy with every film.

718
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 11: Yeah, you know, there's films that we love that changed

719
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:55,280
Speaker 11: our lives that some people don't like. At the end

720
00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:56,880
Speaker 11: of the day, that's we just want to make something

721
00:33:56,920 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 11: that's entertaining, to make it people thinking and talking.

722
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 16: And we're like risk takers and gamblers. I'd rather you

723
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:07,920
Speaker 16: absolutely hate my film and talk about it and be

724
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:12,560
Speaker 16: so passionate about your disdain instead of just making something

725
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:16,839
Speaker 16: that they're like, uh, it's okay, Like it was like forgettable.

726
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:19,960
Speaker 16: But yeah, we're we're excited to just get it out

727
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:23,600
Speaker 16: there and hear what people think and their response. And

728
00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:26,439
Speaker 16: we're very confident in the film too. We think it's

729
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 16: a great film. The feedback's been really good, and I.

730
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 3: Think people are really going to enjoy seeing Hayden and

731
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:32,719
Speaker 3: Tyler and the.

732
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Speaker 6: Aah yeah it's Tyler, Like I've really never seen it,

733
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 6: Like I've been watching one avid Elementary and it's like, oh,

734
00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:38,239
Speaker 6: this is a totally different side of it.

735
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Speaker 8: Yeah.

736
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Speaker 16: Yeah, he's a killer, Like he is just so locked in.

737
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:45,960
Speaker 16: It's so good, so insightful. At Hayden too, like they

738
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:49,279
Speaker 16: were just like we're the perfect people at the right

739
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:51,160
Speaker 16: time to have this, you know.

740
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Speaker 11: Yeah, they both brought such humanity to the roles and

741
00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:58,719
Speaker 11: personality and it was really really fun to work with

742
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:01,920
Speaker 11: them and see what, you know, their perspectives on their

743
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:03,959
Speaker 11: characters and they s brought so much.

744
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Speaker 6: And my final question is why Louisville Kentucky. I'll give

745
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:10,960
Speaker 6: you why I think you picked it. After watching the movie,

746
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:14,440
Speaker 6: I feel like that city which I've been to, I

747
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:17,279
Speaker 6: love Louisville. It makes it feel so much more real,

748
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:19,880
Speaker 6: Like you could happen to anybody if you said this

749
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 6: movie in LA, it would feel like, oh, it's just

750
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:24,919
Speaker 6: another movie in LA where crazy things happen all the time,

751
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Speaker 6: or in New York. But for me, like just seeing them,

752
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:28,879
Speaker 6: like at the beginning, they just had a random park

753
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Speaker 6: and that's where it happens. Is that the reason why

754
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:33,839
Speaker 6: it's in Louisville or is it just I just want

755
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:38,280
Speaker 6: to say Louisville, Kentucky is awesome, great people.

756
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Speaker 16: Our crew was like we missed those those people they

757
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:46,080
Speaker 16: were so awesome and just like genuine down the earth

758
00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:48,160
Speaker 16: and they kind of knew our story like that we've

759
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 16: been hustling for ten years, that we were gonna make it,

760
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:55,080
Speaker 16: that we were no one's gonna let us, and they

761
00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:58,280
Speaker 16: just like got behind us like family and really helped

762
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Speaker 16: us make an amazing film.

763
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Speaker 11: As the producer, I will say was because of there

764
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:06,800
Speaker 11: was a few different places that have great test incentives

765
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Speaker 11: that we were debating over, and I think exactly what

766
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Speaker 11: you said, though, is you know, one of the strengths

767
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Speaker 11: of the Snow is that it could be anywhere except

768
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Speaker 11: maybe La but in general, like this happens all over

769
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Speaker 11: the country.

770
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Speaker 16: And it was originally written in Phoenix, Arizona because the

771
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:25,760
Speaker 16: Phoenix is the kidnapping capital of the country.

772
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Speaker 3: Yeah, we wanted to make sure it didn't feel like.

773
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Speaker 6: It could be anybody.

774
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Speaker 16: Yes, so we just kind of tweaked it a little

775
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:34,919
Speaker 16: and it was couldn't. I couldn't imagine anywhere else now,

776
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Speaker 16: And I love that the lushness, the beautiful degree, Like

777
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Speaker 16: I mean, I do want to fight a lot with

778
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:43,880
Speaker 16: the rain. Then we had to day. We didn't shoot

779
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:47,239
Speaker 16: for a whole morning because of rain that you know,

780
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Speaker 16: it was. It was some challenges, but it worked out,

781
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:56,080
Speaker 16: worked out.

782
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:07,279
Speaker 17: Cary Line, she's a queen and talking and so she's

783
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:10,080
Speaker 17: getting really not afraid to feel its episode or soul.

784
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Speaker 10: Just let it blow.

785
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Speaker 6: No one can do we quiet.

786
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:18,400
Speaker 7: Cary Line is sober care Line.

787
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Speaker 18: Because I did not think I was codependent, because I

788
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:24,439
Speaker 18: was so capable exactly. Yeah, And I've done so many

789
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:26,640
Speaker 18: big things and I'm not scared to take risks.

790
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 4: You know, right, But you like everyone else didn't understand

791
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:36,920
Speaker 4: the vast expansion that is codependency and the particular flavor

792
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:40,040
Speaker 4: of your codependency. It was the same as my codependency,

793
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:42,439
Speaker 4: which is why I named a new kind of codependency,

794
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:45,719
Speaker 4: calling it high functioning, because you were like all of

795
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:49,560
Speaker 4: my therapy clients who anytime I would bring up that's

796
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 4: a codependent pattern, they'd be like, no, it's not, lady,

797
00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:55,879
Speaker 4: I'm not codependent. Everyone's dependent on me. I'm the one

798
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:57,919
Speaker 4: making all the dough. I'm the one who's the rock

799
00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:00,160
Speaker 4: in my family. I'm the one managing all the peeople.

800
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:03,839
Speaker 4: What are you talking about? And it made me realize, Wow,

801
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:07,799
Speaker 4: my highly capable clients do not know what godependency is.

802
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:08,560
Speaker 13: What is it?

803
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:10,800
Speaker 4: I won't tell you. According to Terry.

804
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:12,960
Speaker 13: Cole, which is a good one to accord to, that's.

805
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:16,759
Speaker 4: Ru I'm saying is when you are overly invested in

806
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:23,360
Speaker 4: the feeling states, the outcomes, situations, circumstances, relationships of the

807
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:27,319
Speaker 4: people in your life to the detriment of your own

808
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:28,160
Speaker 4: internal peace.

809
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Speaker 13: That's a big one.

810
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Speaker 18: Okay, So like those are some big words just through

811
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:32,279
Speaker 18: out there, but like really, when you break it down,

812
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:34,680
Speaker 18: like if you're feeling sick in your stomach because you're

813
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 18: so worried about everyone in your life that their outcomes

814
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 18: aren't going.

815
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:38,960
Speaker 13: To be what you need them to be.

816
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Speaker 18: And that's what you said, The outcomes need to be

817
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:45,040
Speaker 18: the way I need them to be so I can relax. Like,

818
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:47,800
Speaker 18: I can't have them messing up how I need it

819
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:50,080
Speaker 18: to go, or having them have construction or have them

820
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 18: not being happy or have them being.

821
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Speaker 13: Mad at me, because then I'm not going to be

822
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:54,200
Speaker 13: able to have peace.

823
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:57,200
Speaker 18: So I have to go control them to make sure

824
00:38:57,320 --> 00:38:59,040
Speaker 18: that I give them everything I can with my people,

825
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:02,279
Speaker 18: pleasing personality, read their energy, like feel the room, make

826
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:04,040
Speaker 18: sure they get what they need so they can be happy,

827
00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 18: and then I can be like, Okay, I can relax.

828
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:10,200
Speaker 4: So you see how that's a short term strategy.

829
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Speaker 13: I lived in that way for like my whole life.

830
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 4: Right, But you understand you can't keep going, which is

831
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:15,719
Speaker 4: why you were searching around the.

832
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:16,959
Speaker 13: World having to pray down.

833
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:20,799
Speaker 4: Yeah, because literally there's only so much bandwidth that we

834
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:24,799
Speaker 4: can bleed in that way, especially once you become a mother,

835
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 4: especially because once you hit perimenopause or menopause, like you

836
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:33,239
Speaker 4: just get so over all of this bandwidth bleeding, and

837
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:35,839
Speaker 4: what I see in my therapy practice is that it

838
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:40,280
Speaker 4: makes us resentful because we're doing it. We are proactively

839
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:43,840
Speaker 4: inserting ourselves. Right, So what are let's talk about the

840
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:46,160
Speaker 4: behaviors because I feel like let's get really clear for

841
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:48,799
Speaker 4: people who are watching and listening to be able to

842
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:53,040
Speaker 4: see themselves. If you are a high functioning codependent, I mean,

843
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:56,799
Speaker 4: let's just be specific about the differences. Right, The more

844
00:39:56,840 --> 00:40:01,320
Speaker 4: capable you are, the less codependency, because like codependency, sneak

845
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:03,040
Speaker 4: heer you are, but it's still codependency.

846
00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:05,279
Speaker 13: You're extra sneaky and acting not codependent.

847
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:07,400
Speaker 4: That's right, You're really good at it. But actually people

848
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:09,880
Speaker 4: perceive you as not codependent because you're.

849
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:12,080
Speaker 13: So capable, probably like running some company, you.

850
00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:14,520
Speaker 4: Are, and nobody is checking in on you either, because

851
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:16,200
Speaker 4: we're the ones who are checking in on all the

852
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:21,080
Speaker 4: other people, right. Right, So with codependency, people think my

853
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:25,359
Speaker 4: clients were like, I'm not enabling an alcoholic. What are

854
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:29,480
Speaker 4: you talking about? As if that is the only way

855
00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:31,360
Speaker 4: codependency can be expressed, Like.

856
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:33,960
Speaker 18: Ause, if you let someone carry on a toxic behavior

857
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:36,080
Speaker 18: that you're very aware of, like drinking or drinks.

858
00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:38,799
Speaker 4: I mean, when you think about codependency. This is how codependency,

859
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:41,800
Speaker 4: melody baity, codependent no More, got to be involved with

860
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:44,200
Speaker 4: an addict. This is what a lot of my the

861
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:48,000
Speaker 4: myths that my clients thought were true about codependency. So

862
00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:50,880
Speaker 4: they didn't see themselves in the problem. So for me,

863
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:53,640
Speaker 4: I needed to create it so they could see themselves,

864
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:56,719
Speaker 4: because how could we get to a solution if they

865
00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:59,800
Speaker 4: didn't even see themselves in the problem. And you know, Caroline,

866
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:04,240
Speaker 4: it was also my own personal experiences, so this wasn't

867
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:12,719
Speaker 4: just me sort of changing this definition. It's me expanding

868
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:15,919
Speaker 4: the definition because it was the flavor of my own

869
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:21,000
Speaker 4: young life codependency where you're not just codependent with the

870
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:23,600
Speaker 4: people in your life, you could be codependent. I mean

871
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Speaker 4: I opened the book with a story of me being

872
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Speaker 4: on a platform in Long Island, a train platform at

873
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Speaker 4: ten thirty at night on a Tuesday, and I see

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Speaker 4: this kid he's probably about nineteen and I'm probably about

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Speaker 4: twenty two, and he's holding a little blanket and I'm like, hmm,

876
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Speaker 4: my helper radar is already pinging, like where's this young

877
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:43,320
Speaker 4: kid going? At ten thirty at night? And I was

878
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:45,240
Speaker 4: going back to my apartment. I was coming from therapy,

879
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:47,440
Speaker 4: and so I started chatting him up on the train

880
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:49,239
Speaker 4: and I was like, ohere are you going? He says, Oh,

881
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Speaker 4: my name is Billy blah blah blah. He's like, I

882
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:53,840
Speaker 4: was hired to drive a car from Long Island to

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Speaker 4: Indiana and then they just canceled the gig. So I go,

884
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Speaker 4: so where are you going? It's like I'm going to

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Speaker 4: I'm going to, you know, Penn Station. I go, where

886
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:05,880
Speaker 4: are you going to sleep? He's like Pound Station. I

887
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:07,400
Speaker 4: was like, no, you're not doing Have you ever been

888
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:09,360
Speaker 4: to Penn State team on? There's the late eighties? The

889
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:11,680
Speaker 4: city was rough still. I was like, have you ever

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Speaker 4: been to Pend Station? Dude, you can't sleep there. He's like, well,

891
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:16,279
Speaker 4: I don't know anybody in New York. I'm like, yeah,

892
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:17,319
Speaker 4: you do? You know me?

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Speaker 13: You let him up stay with you?

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Speaker 4: Yes? I did. I took a perfect stranger that I

895
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Speaker 4: knew for exactly one hour, brought him to my apartment

896
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Speaker 4: with my female roommate, and it was a studio.

897
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Speaker 13: You did it all? How did it pan out?

898
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Speaker 8: Oh?

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Speaker 4: Fine? Of course? I mean he left without incident the

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Speaker 4: next day. And the point is, you guys, watching and

901
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Speaker 4: listening to you you may not have done that extreme,

902
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Speaker 4: but we all have Billy's stories, which is where we

903
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:43,719
Speaker 4: feel overly responsible for people we don't even ef and

904
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Speaker 4: know why is that because it's an illusion of control. Right,

905
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:52,600
Speaker 4: here's the illusion. I couldn't stand the idea that this boy,

906
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Speaker 4: in my mind, which is ironic because I was probably

907
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Speaker 4: three years older than him, was going to be in

908
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Speaker 4: what I considered a dangerous or precarious situation. And we

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Speaker 4: are the helpers, the healers, we're the ones. We're the ones.

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Speaker 4: We can't let it slip through the crack, even someone

911
00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:10,960
Speaker 4: we don't know. And here's the thing. I didn't stop

912
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:13,799
Speaker 4: and think and go, hmmm, does that make sense? Is

913
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:16,120
Speaker 4: this even my shit to solve? Like is this even

914
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Speaker 4: my problem? It was a knee jerk reaction. So the

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Speaker 4: thing with high function codependency in these And I'm going

916
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Speaker 4: to go through the behaviors so people can get into

917
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Speaker 4: it and understand if it's them we're talking about. These

918
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Speaker 4: are things we're sort of doing compulsively, like I'm not thinking.

919
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Speaker 4: I wasn't thinking before through not at all, and it

920
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Speaker 4: never entered my mind. It wasn't the right thing to

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Speaker 4: do though, I mean till way later, even when I

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Speaker 4: came home.

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Speaker 13: Reached yourself out way later, way later.

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Speaker 4: Well, of course once I started, once I had kids,

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Speaker 4: I was like, that was insane. Why would you do that?

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Speaker 4: So the behaviors we want to look out for auto

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Speaker 4: advice giving.

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Speaker 18: Okay, I'm not kind of explain that a little bit.

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Speaker 18: So always got the right answer always here. Because another thing,

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Speaker 18: and I'm not trying to diverge, just want to make

931
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Speaker 18: sure I say this is when you are a high

932
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Speaker 18: functioning codependent, you are so afraid of that other person's

933
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Speaker 18: cookie crumbling and their life falling apart. But what you

934
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Speaker 18: don't know is like that is so self righteous of

935
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Speaker 18: you to think that you know it's best for them,

936
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Speaker 18: and that them falling apart isn't exactly what they needed.

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Speaker 18: So they could hit that level and actually gain the

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Speaker 18: lessons they need and go on the journey they need

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Speaker 18: that they wouldn't have done if.

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Speaker 13: They hadn't hit that level. I think about that all

941
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Speaker 13: the time.

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Speaker 4: Yes, but it takes so long to get to that

943
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Speaker 4: because here's the thing.

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Speaker 13: So then you have to let people be.

945
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Speaker 4: That's the thing. We have to let the chips fall

946
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Speaker 4: where they may when they're not your mother, f and chips.

947
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Speaker 4: But that's the hard that's the hard part. So the

948
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Speaker 4: auto advice giving this can look like two things. It

949
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Speaker 4: can look like someone coming to you and just saying, oh, hey,

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Speaker 4: I decided I'm going to go here for vacation. You

951
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Speaker 4: being like, oh, make sure you stop there as well.

952
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Speaker 4: This place was amazing. You're going to love that. I

953
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Speaker 4: know people, I actually have a great real estate, but

954
00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:57,960
Speaker 4: like I have a great travel agent for you. I

955
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Speaker 4: where we just can't stop. That's someone who hasn't even

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Speaker 4: asked us for our input. They literally just said I'm

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Speaker 4: going on vacation. We were like planning their right itinerary.

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Speaker 4: So there's that and many of the people who come

959
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Speaker 4: to you because you are a healer and a helper

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Speaker 4: and a fixer.

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