1 00:00:02,480 --> 00:00:06,880 Speaker 1: From the twenty twenty three NFL Combine. This is Patriots unfiltered. 2 00:00:09,520 --> 00:00:11,760 Speaker 1: All right, guys, it's Dus Lazarre and we are back 3 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:15,680 Speaker 1: again here on Friday from Indianapolis at the NFL scouting Combine. Evan, 4 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 1: today we heard from the quarterbacks, the wide receivers, and 5 00:00:18,040 --> 00:00:19,599 Speaker 1: the tight ends. It's an exciting day. I mean, let's 6 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:22,079 Speaker 1: face it, this is it. The Patriots need a wide receiver, 7 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:23,960 Speaker 1: then you need it. They could use a tight end 8 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:26,920 Speaker 1: long term. You know, some questions there as that as 9 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 1: far as that goes. But I saw a number of 10 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 1: good players today and we should tease too. We're going 11 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:33,960 Speaker 1: to focus here mostly on the wide receivers and tight ends. 12 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 1: If you want to hear about quarterbacks, we had guess 13 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 1: Mark Schofield from sp Nation. Come on, he has a 14 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 1: quarterback guru. He knows everything about these guys. We talked 15 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:43,559 Speaker 1: to Mark about mac Jones about last year, about what 16 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:45,479 Speaker 1: he expects this year. A lot of great stuff. So 17 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:47,199 Speaker 1: if you want to hear about the quarterbacks, go on 18 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:48,800 Speaker 1: to the end. We're going to focus here though on 19 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 1: the wide receivers and the tight ends. So Evan, you 20 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 1: know what is your big you know, just overall takeaway today, 21 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 1: starting with the wide receivers well first and foremost. I 22 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 1: did an interview with Macro, Patriots director of player personnel 23 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 1: that's up on patriot dot com right now, and he 24 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:05,759 Speaker 1: said to me that with the playmaker positions, you either 25 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 1: have to invest high draft capital or cap space, and 26 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:11,680 Speaker 1: these guys they don't come cheap anymore. You know that 27 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 1: I'm paraphrasing, but that's essentially what he said. And I 28 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 1: think when you look at this draft, it's another draft 29 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 1: where using a top fifty pick on a wide receiver 30 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 1: or maybe a tight end, which we can get into 31 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:24,839 Speaker 1: here in a second as well, is where the Patriots 32 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:28,200 Speaker 1: are at. And I understand the optics of that for 33 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:31,600 Speaker 1: the Patriots and their history at that position and maybe 34 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:34,480 Speaker 1: wanting to go through the veteran market. But we were 35 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:37,400 Speaker 1: talking about this off the air yesterday, trying to go 36 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:40,399 Speaker 1: through the options in the veteran market and nothing appealing. 37 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:43,319 Speaker 1: There's nothing great unless one of these guys really comes 38 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 1: available that you know, a Jerry Judy or te Higgins 39 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 1: or somebody like that. Because the contract negotiations. My guests 40 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 1: would be why that would be the situation. But I 41 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 1: don't think their teams. Currently, the Bengals and the Broncos 42 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 1: have big plans to move on from either one of 43 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 1: those guys. So I could be wrong about that. It's 44 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 1: not inside information, it's just the feeling after talking to 45 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 1: them here the other day. So looking at this draft, 46 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 1: I think you're looking at taking another stab at it, right, 47 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 1: Throwing another dart got you gotta And I think at 48 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 1: this point in time, you know, I always compare this 49 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:21,239 Speaker 1: draft of the twenty nineteen draft because more of the 50 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 1: receiving talent that ended up panning out in the league 51 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:25,360 Speaker 1: when in the second and third rounds instead of the 52 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 1: first round. But with this draft, I can promise you 53 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 1: that a couple of these guys are going to pan 54 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:34,119 Speaker 1: out to being really good NFL players. That's just how 55 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:36,919 Speaker 1: it works, whether they're drafted in the top ten or 56 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 1: or you know, in the third round, right, somebody is 57 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 1: going to end up being the A. J. Brown, Deebo, 58 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 1: Samuel DK Metcalf, Terry McLaurin of this draft. And eventually 59 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:51,640 Speaker 1: Patriot's got to hit on one of these guys eventually, 60 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 1: like you, they need it. And so I want to 61 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 1: start at the top. You know a guy that I 62 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 1: think we, you know, kind of agreement on at least 63 00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 1: early Quentin Johnston certainly a physical specimen. We saw him 64 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:06,800 Speaker 1: walking around. Big guy is straight speed outside receiver primarily 65 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:10,240 Speaker 1: not you know, I've been banging quickness inside. But an 66 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 1: interesting day, I think, especially for you getting to hear 67 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 1: from him, getting to talk to him a little bit. 68 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:17,640 Speaker 1: My mind's a little bit swayed. It's a little bit swayed, Eldrich, 69 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:19,919 Speaker 1: You'll be happy about that. I think the one thing 70 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:24,079 Speaker 1: that you can see with Quentin Johnston, let me start 71 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:26,080 Speaker 1: with why I wasn't high on him to begin with, 72 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 1: and now we can kind of explain it from there. 73 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 1: The two things that really show up on his film 74 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 1: are one, he's not a very good separator at the 75 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 1: top of the route at the break point. He's not 76 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 1: somebody that's gonna sink and then create separation like a 77 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 1: Zay Flowers or Jordan Addison might on a route going 78 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 1: over the middle or something like that. So you're really 79 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 1: talking about a linear athlete that operates on a vertical 80 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 1: route tree, So we're talking about verticals, fades, posts, things 81 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 1: like that. And then maybe like a hitch to keep 82 00:03:57,360 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 1: defensive backs honest, right, and I think that the route 83 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 1: tree that you look at if you want to see 84 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 1: a guy that's panned out in this mold, it's like 85 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 1: a Dez Bryant, right, who ran literally three routes his 86 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 1: entire career. It was a vertical, it was a slant, 87 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 1: and it was a hitch like. Those were the three 88 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 1: routes he ran. But he was dominantly good at those 89 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 1: three routes and he was able to make up where 90 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:19,719 Speaker 1: I think DK metcalf is another guy that's in a 91 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 1: similar situation. So that's why I had some reservations about 92 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:25,040 Speaker 1: Quentin Johnson. There's also the issues with his hands. He's 93 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 1: had some drops on his tape and he's not at 94 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 1: his high six foot three, six foot four. This is 95 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:33,359 Speaker 1: not DeVante Parker like. He's not a contested catch receiver. 96 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 1: He's more of a burner. Now, with all that being said, 97 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 1: it was very, very impressive at the podium, which I 98 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:44,480 Speaker 1: thought was great. Very confident but cool, not like overconfident 99 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 1: or cocky, but just a really good swagger about him. 100 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 1: And I think the other thing is you start to 101 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:52,039 Speaker 1: look at some of these guys in this draft, I 102 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:55,240 Speaker 1: think the one guy where I can say a defensive 103 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 1: coordinator might lose some sleep at night thinking about the 104 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:00,920 Speaker 1: matchup against this guy, or they might have to leave 105 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 1: that safety over the top and take him out of 106 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 1: the middle of the field, or the guy that's going 107 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:08,360 Speaker 1: to impact teams the most. Turned from a game plan perspective, 108 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:11,719 Speaker 1: it's probably Johnston if he pans out in the NFL, 109 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:14,160 Speaker 1: because these other guys are more of the R type 110 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:17,600 Speaker 1: of guys, these separation quick, you know, twitchy slot receiver 111 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:21,120 Speaker 1: types that aren't necessarily going to demand double teams or 112 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 1: extra attention or coverage being rotated over to them, or 113 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:27,240 Speaker 1: whatever the case might be. So the other three guys 114 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:28,920 Speaker 1: kind of next on the list, say Flowers of course, 115 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 1: were familiar with him. Boston College was at the Shrine Bowl. 116 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 1: Patriots have plenty of contact with him out there as well. 117 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:37,480 Speaker 1: Jackson Smith and Jinba not going to run here at 118 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:40,600 Speaker 1: the combine. We're kind of waiting to see tomorrow night exactly, 119 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 1: you know, how we tests otherwise see what he looks 120 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 1: like on the field. Probably a little bit of a 121 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 1: you know, question mark for guys like us who are saying, hey, 122 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:48,719 Speaker 1: we just want to make sure someone comes through this door. 123 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 1: He can run like the run like the win in 124 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 1: terms of quickness and you know, get open. And then 125 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 1: the last, the last one, Jordan Addison, who you know, 126 00:05:55,960 --> 00:06:00,160 Speaker 1: my guy, my first mock questionable if that will remain. 127 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:03,599 Speaker 1: But overall, all three of those guys guys that can 128 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 1: control the middle of the field, and it feels like that's, 129 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 1: you know, something that would help Mac Jones. And I 130 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 1: don't know what's going to happen with Jacobe Myers. That's 131 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:11,279 Speaker 1: certainly his area and where he kind of makes his living. 132 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:13,839 Speaker 1: But I don't see it as hard if you're gonna 133 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 1: let Jacoby Myers go cashing somewhere else, and then maybe 134 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 1: you bring him one of these rookies and you say, hey, 135 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 1: let's go plug him in the middle, develop a relationship 136 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 1: with Mac Jones, and then those two guys are together 137 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 1: for the next two to three years. I'm really gravitating 138 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 1: more and more towards Zay Flowers. I just feel like 139 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 1: his game is exactly what the Patriots need for Mac 140 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 1: Jones and specifically and Bill O'Brien, because Bill O'Brien talks 141 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 1: about a lot with the middle of the field role 142 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 1: that he likes out of the slot, he likes to 143 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 1: put his quickest guy in that role, that Edelman, that 144 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 1: Welker role, And right now, I love Jacoby Myers, but 145 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 1: I don't necessarily think that that's his game. Like I 146 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 1: don't think he's really a true jitterbug like Zay Flowers is. 147 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 1: Whereas Zay can really get in and out of the break. 148 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 1: He's got great electric quickness, and he's excellent after the catches, 149 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:03,680 Speaker 1: explosive all around player, moves at a different speed than 150 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 1: everybody else out on the field. And now that he's 151 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 1: up to one eighty one eighty five, like he told 152 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:12,680 Speaker 1: us here today, and I also like he doesn't shy 153 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:16,240 Speaker 1: away from things like you know, I think people were 154 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 1: asking why did you go to the Shrine Bowl instead 155 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 1: of the Senior Bowl, And he said he wanted to 156 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 1: be different, he wanted to stand out. Why. You know, 157 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 1: he's going to test completely here at the combine, run 158 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 1: the forty, jumps, agilities, on field work, the whole nine yards. 159 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 1: I'm not saying Jason's ducking it a little bit, but 160 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 1: I'm saying Jason might be ducking it in a little 161 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 1: bit because the forty might not be very good for him. 162 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 1: And I think that Zay Flowers this whole entire process 163 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 1: has said, I'm a stud. I know I'm a stud. 164 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 1: I'll run a forty, I'll play at the Shrine Bowl. 165 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 1: I don't care. I'm gonna be good. I love that attitude, 166 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 1: And that was kind of what the battitude Mac had 167 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 1: when he came out, when he went from winning a 168 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 1: national championship to go in like right to the Shrine 169 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 1: Bowl working out there. I'm sorry, the Senior Bowl. Yeah, 170 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 1: I got senior in Shrine Bowl. I gotta get these straight. 171 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 1: They're playing together here, folks. They're both start with s. 172 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 1: It's and we're here like we've been at the combine 173 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:08,119 Speaker 1: for day we're day five now, it's all blending together. 174 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 1: I but hey, if there's anything though that can get 175 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 1: us up, it's these wide receivers. And I think, you know, 176 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 1: part of the excitement is and I know there's there's 177 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:17,240 Speaker 1: been some reports I think maybe Chad Graff from the 178 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:19,680 Speaker 1: Athletic reporting that you know, the Patriots might choose not 179 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 1: to use their fourteenth overall pick on one of these 180 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 1: wide receivers and instead might look to either free agency 181 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 1: or maybe the later rounds. And you know, I think 182 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 1: we both agree as always, and I say this. I 183 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 1: feel like this is the third or fourth year in 184 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 1: a row that I said this, that there are good 185 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:34,200 Speaker 1: players in Day two. There are starters in Day two 186 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 1: and maybe even into day three. I think for me 187 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:38,600 Speaker 1: today hearing some of these guys, I know, we both 188 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 1: really like Jayden Reid. I mean, if you watch any 189 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 1: of the Senior Bowl practices, he had some amazing downfield catches. 190 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 1: Really exciting guy guys like him, you know, these second 191 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 1: level guys that I still think even though they're not 192 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:51,560 Speaker 1: going to be the fourteenth overall pick, but somebody like 193 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 1: him who you know, you're not waiting to get that 194 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 1: seventh round slot receiver that Perlo always makes fun of 195 00:08:56,240 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 1: us for, like, well, let's just find our slow guys. 196 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:01,439 Speaker 1: Who was who was here today? Is well that, but hey, 197 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:03,960 Speaker 1: let's get the day two sluck. I let's get it. Yeah. 198 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:05,839 Speaker 1: Maybe he's not as polished as some of these guys 199 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 1: like Zay and Addison that we're talking about, but guys 200 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 1: that just innately have that top half of the draft quickness. 201 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:13,719 Speaker 1: That's a separation. So the guy that really stood out 202 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 1: to me along with Reid, who I think is more 203 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:17,560 Speaker 1: of like a vertical slot and you know he's someone 204 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 1: that's gonna run a lot of slot fades, are overs, 205 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 1: you know, deep crossers from the slot, things like that 206 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:24,720 Speaker 1: Josh downs from you and see I had him in 207 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 1: my mock draft to the Patriots at forty six in 208 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 1: the second round. He feels like a guy that is 209 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 1: one of those jitterbug quickness, good twitch, good ability after 210 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:37,440 Speaker 1: the catch, but also has some high IQ route running 211 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:40,000 Speaker 1: about him as well. And I asked him today, what's 212 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:42,720 Speaker 1: your favorite route and he said that the Edelman pivot route. 213 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 1: He said it is. I'm like, all right, well, this 214 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 1: guy is a Patriot. He said something along the lines 215 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 1: of if you need to play, come to Josh down. 216 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 1: So I was like, all right, you know, I like 217 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:54,319 Speaker 1: that swire, that attitude. He's somebody that I think is 218 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 1: gonna be available. I don't know if he's gonna make 219 00:09:57,840 --> 00:09:59,560 Speaker 1: it to forty six. I do is every year there's 220 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:01,480 Speaker 1: I always say like, this guy might not make it, 221 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:02,840 Speaker 1: but I don't know if he's gonna make it to 222 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:05,560 Speaker 1: forty six. But I think he's someone that if you're 223 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 1: serious about this, And it's what they did with Taekwon 224 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:11,079 Speaker 1: last year, remember trading up from fifty four to fifty 225 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 1: and wasn't a huge trade up, but they did. If 226 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:15,960 Speaker 1: you're serious about this, then moving up from forty six 227 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:19,559 Speaker 1: to thirty six, let's say to secure Josh downs at 228 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 1: the beginning of the second round. That's something that I 229 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:24,560 Speaker 1: think that they should really entertain if they don't want 230 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:27,720 Speaker 1: to use the fourteenth overall pick on An Addison or 231 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 1: on a Flowers. It's funny with some of these guys, Evan, 232 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:31,959 Speaker 1: because I mean, I you know, I try to get 233 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:33,480 Speaker 1: a look at as many of them as I can 234 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 1: and try to research, but inevitably, you're not going to 235 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:37,440 Speaker 1: get a hand on everybody, or you're gonna forget somebody. 236 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 1: And then you get here and you happen to walk 237 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:41,959 Speaker 1: by a podium and you say, this guy see any 238 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:43,839 Speaker 1: I don't remember seeing any film on him, but he 239 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:45,840 Speaker 1: sounds like a patriot a little bit to me, or 240 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 1: you know, just his presence. It's like, this seems like 241 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:49,960 Speaker 1: a guy that would fit into that locker room. Marvin 242 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:52,080 Speaker 1: Mims was a guy I haven't I can't recall any 243 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 1: tape I've watched of him, but I'm like, it sounds 244 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 1: like Damian Harris up there. This is Damian Knight, not 245 00:10:56,600 --> 00:10:58,920 Speaker 1: quite as deep and sexy voice that Damien Harris has, 246 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:01,960 Speaker 1: but just that a serious tone to him. And that 247 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 1: was the same thing that I noticed with with your guy. 248 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:08,200 Speaker 1: You were just talking about downs serious football guy, and 249 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:10,200 Speaker 1: that that always kind of triggers me a little bit. 250 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, there might be something there. So if 251 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:14,679 Speaker 1: you ask ou fans, Marvin Mims should have won the 252 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 1: Bulletin Cough last year. I went to Jalen High from Tennessee. 253 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 1: Mims is a vertical route runner as well as speed guy, 254 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:24,719 Speaker 1: kind of in that read mold from Michigan say the 255 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 1: guy we're just talking about from the Senior Bowl. He's 256 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 1: got some really good film though, and he had some 257 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 1: really great production last year with the Sooners as well. 258 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:34,320 Speaker 1: So he's somebody that can certainly get up the field 259 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 1: and has that ability to just stretch the defense from 260 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:40,199 Speaker 1: all three levels. And I really liked what I saw 261 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:42,080 Speaker 1: out of him, and I think that in some ways 262 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 1: he's sort of the forgotten receiver of this class because 263 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 1: Addison had the big twenty twenty one. He wins the 264 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:50,600 Speaker 1: Bulletin Cough at Pittsburgh and then last year High At 265 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 1: wins the Bulaton Cough at Tennessee, and Mims was just 266 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 1: right there both times almost and just didn't get over 267 00:11:57,400 --> 00:12:00,720 Speaker 1: the hump to get into the actual win circle of 268 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 1: that award. So it's a really interesting player. I actually 269 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 1: think for where they're going to be drafted, I would 270 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:10,680 Speaker 1: probably prefer Mims over Hyatt, honestly, because I think high 271 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:13,440 Speaker 1: it's going to be overdrafted because of the speed, Whereas 272 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 1: Mims I think has in the ballpark speed as Jalen Hyatt, 273 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:19,640 Speaker 1: but has a little bit more film against press coverage 274 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 1: and a little bit more film against NFL style defense, 275 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:24,960 Speaker 1: Whereas with Jalen Hyatt you have the splits and you 276 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 1: have the releases and it's just all, you know, smoking 277 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 1: mirrors there from Tennessee. I saw a lot of a 278 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:33,480 Speaker 1: lot of Taekwon Thornton in him. But the guy who 279 00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 1: quick want to talk about it is just the other 280 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 1: Tennessee receiver who was Cedric Tillman, who more productive played 281 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:41,120 Speaker 1: this year his last year this year played with a 282 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 1: high ankle sprain. He talked about that a little bit. 283 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 1: He's another one of those guys. And I mean I 284 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 1: brought up Garrett Williams from Syracuse coming off and acl 285 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:49,439 Speaker 1: like I always get intrigued by these guys who you know, 286 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 1: maybe had a little bit down production in terms of 287 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:53,760 Speaker 1: an inch dealing with an injury. But you look as 288 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 1: taped the year before. He's an explosive guy that you 289 00:12:56,160 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 1: wonder where would he be being talked about if he 290 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:01,320 Speaker 1: was still that player. If you're if you're grading just 291 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:04,080 Speaker 1: off of film and you're evaluating just off of film, 292 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:06,319 Speaker 1: and you're not looking at production, and you're not looking 293 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 1: at forty times, Cedric Tillman's tape is better than Jalen 294 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:12,400 Speaker 1: Hyatt's tape. He's a more technically sound receiver, he's a 295 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 1: better route runner, he has more tools in his bag. 296 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 1: But because Jalen Hyatt has the production as the guy 297 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:21,959 Speaker 1: that Tennessee everybody talks about last year, one of the 298 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 1: games he was healthy for was the Georgia game. Killey 299 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:26,680 Speaker 1: Ringo had all sorts of problems with this guy. He 300 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 1: couldn't cover him because killey Ringo has some stiffness and 301 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:33,680 Speaker 1: coverage and change of direction concerns. And Tillman would just 302 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:35,880 Speaker 1: get on that vertical and then just sit it down 303 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:39,199 Speaker 1: really quickly and stop down on hitches and things like that, 304 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 1: and he would just you know, ringo bid bye, you know, 305 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:43,560 Speaker 1: like up the field and he would just lose him 306 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:45,640 Speaker 1: and then he was pretty elusive and good with the 307 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:48,000 Speaker 1: football in his hands after the catch as well. So 308 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 1: if I am going with that big body X receiver, 309 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:54,320 Speaker 1: I obviously Quentin Johnson's one of one in that category, 310 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 1: but I think Cedric Tillman would be the number two 311 00:13:57,040 --> 00:13:59,719 Speaker 1: guy on that board for me that might be available 312 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:03,319 Speaker 1: more in like the top seventy five pick picks instead 313 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:05,600 Speaker 1: of you know, up in the first round. All right, well, 314 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 1: let's let's turn the page then to the tight ends 315 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 1: and again, you know, go to the end. We'll talk 316 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:12,320 Speaker 1: about the quarterbacks. Great stuff with Mars Schofield tight ends 317 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:14,080 Speaker 1: and Evan, I know you got you got a little 318 00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 1: enamored with Quentin Johnson. A I think you got a 319 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:19,040 Speaker 1: little enamored with Michael Mayer as well. But um, we 320 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 1: know Mayor is a well rounded tight end. I mean 321 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 1: he's he's probably like the full package in terms of 322 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 1: you know why tight end he can block? He you know, 323 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 1: is he is he a next generational kind of move guy? 324 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:30,960 Speaker 1: Maybe not. We'll see how he tests tomorrow night. Um, 325 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 1: but there are some of those move guys and I 326 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:34,840 Speaker 1: and I have to admit I'm intrigued, you know, like 327 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 1: go back to Aaron Hernandez. You know they took Gronk 328 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 1: and and As together. They were a perfect compliment. I 329 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:41,840 Speaker 1: think some people thought that's where you were getting with 330 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:43,920 Speaker 1: John Smith and Hunter Henry. It hasn't quite worked out 331 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:46,360 Speaker 1: that way. Um, So it's intriguing. As Michael Mayer is, 332 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:48,960 Speaker 1: as you know, that prototypical guy, there's also plenty of 333 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:50,760 Speaker 1: guys who are that f tight end and that you 334 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 1: know that that can be a move guy that you know. Again, 335 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 1: it just for me, it goes back to creating mitts 336 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 1: matches in the middle of the field, and I see 337 00:14:56,920 --> 00:14:59,640 Speaker 1: some of these guys Luke Musgraves, Dalton Kincaid. I don't know, 338 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:01,240 Speaker 1: it's be a little bit too rich for their blood 339 00:15:01,280 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 1: there in the first round or two, but it's not 340 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 1: hard to envision a guy like that being a weapon 341 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:08,920 Speaker 1: for Bill O'Brien. So I felt the same way about 342 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:12,200 Speaker 1: Quentin Johnson, and I felt the same way about Joey 343 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 1: Porter Jr. And I felt the same way. I would 344 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 1: say also about Nolan Smith, who just put on an 345 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 1: absolute show last night on the on field workouts and 346 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 1: athletic testing A four three nine at like two hundred 347 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 1: and forty pounds is unfair. That's you know, Captain America 348 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 1: type stuff. So he was ridiculous. All three of those 349 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:35,119 Speaker 1: guys are the type of players that like are Captain's 350 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 1: longtime captains another year franchise, those guys that you're gonna 351 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:44,200 Speaker 1: put out and be faces of your organization. And Michael Mayer, 352 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 1: to me, was exactly that. And I talked to him 353 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:50,600 Speaker 1: at the podium briefly and then I tried to grab 354 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 1: him off to the side as he was walking around 355 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 1: going through all the big Jay media trying to get 356 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 1: him on TV and things like that, and just talking 357 00:15:58,520 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 1: to him. I just went up to him as like, 358 00:15:59,840 --> 00:16:02,600 Speaker 1: you know, I really enjoyed watching your film, you know 359 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:04,840 Speaker 1: what he met with the Patriots things like that, and 360 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:07,400 Speaker 1: he was just he's just a great guy, you know, 361 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 1: and intense, intense competitive, confident and a leader. And you 362 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 1: can tell that guys are going to gravitate towards him 363 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:15,720 Speaker 1: in a locker room and are really going to follow 364 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:18,200 Speaker 1: him when he pulls on that rope. And I think 365 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 1: that's something that you have to think about in the 366 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 1: first round, like that's it's legit. You have to think 367 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:25,480 Speaker 1: about it in the first round that this is going 368 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:27,440 Speaker 1: to be a guy that's going to be front and 369 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 1: center for your organization, hopefully for a very long time. 370 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:33,280 Speaker 1: And I think that mayor really passed that test today. 371 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:34,680 Speaker 1: It's a great point. I feel like if we were 372 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:36,760 Speaker 1: in two thousand and five or two thousand and six, 373 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 1: maybe back when, like every it was just a running 374 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:41,040 Speaker 1: joke that the Patriots always draft tight ends like they 375 00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 1: just always needs. Like I think if we were still 376 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:44,600 Speaker 1: in that headspace, I think it would be getting a 377 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:47,360 Speaker 1: lot more attention for Michael Mayer, but a couple other guys. 378 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:49,920 Speaker 1: I just wanted to highlight. Darnell Washington from Georgia's a 379 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 1: guy we were talking about prior to him getting up 380 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:54,800 Speaker 1: just a monster, you know, not going to be that 381 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 1: dangerous move tight end. But if you want to talk 382 00:16:57,440 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 1: about a dominant, big bodied guy that you could stay 383 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 1: next to a tackle and run a jumbo O line package, 384 00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:05,159 Speaker 1: he could do it. He's got a big scar on 385 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 1: his face too. I mean, the guy just looks like 386 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:09,600 Speaker 1: a baller. But one more guy want to highlight, and unfortunately, 387 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:11,360 Speaker 1: you know, the Holy Cross guy they lost to South 388 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:14,720 Speaker 1: Dakota State in the FCS semi finals. But Tuckercraft I 389 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:16,720 Speaker 1: just really enjoyed listening to him. He was from a 390 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:18,800 Speaker 1: small town. He said. You know, his whole k through 391 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 1: twelve is altogether. There were like twenty kids in his 392 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:23,040 Speaker 1: graduating class. And you know, pil Hey, how would you 393 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:24,920 Speaker 1: feel about going to Tampa Bay? And He's like, honestly, 394 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:26,960 Speaker 1: I go anywhere. I just looking forward to getting out 395 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 1: of South Dakota. He's been there for for his whole life. 396 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:31,919 Speaker 1: But you know, just a couple of examples and one 397 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 1: more I'll tee up for. He was Cameron Lattu that 398 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 1: we were there for with Alabama, And you asked him 399 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:37,800 Speaker 1: about Bill. Yeah, I was asking him about Bill O'Brien. 400 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:39,200 Speaker 1: He had some good things to say. I think the 401 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 1: best thing for Patriots families from my perspective that he 402 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:45,560 Speaker 1: said about Bill O'Brien was that Bill O'Brien knew his 403 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:47,960 Speaker 1: strengths and weaknesses and knew how to use them, which 404 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:50,119 Speaker 1: I think is going to be really those words like 405 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 1: really resonated with me. That he said that every time 406 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:55,239 Speaker 1: he was asked to do something, it was something that 407 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:57,720 Speaker 1: he felt comfortable with, that he was good at and 408 00:17:57,760 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 1: I was going to amplify his skill. But you mentioned 409 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:03,440 Speaker 1: RNL Washington. He called himself the most unique tight end 410 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:05,359 Speaker 1: in this draft. He wouldn't say he's the best tight end. 411 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 1: He's is the most unique tight end, and I'd agree 412 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:09,520 Speaker 1: with that. And I think if you look at what 413 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:13,359 Speaker 1: the Patriots might morph into, it's not exactly what they 414 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:15,439 Speaker 1: were the first time around with Bill O'Brien, where it 415 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:17,439 Speaker 1: was a lot of pace in space and shotgun and 416 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:19,760 Speaker 1: things like that. But a lot of us were clamoring 417 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:22,440 Speaker 1: for more play action last year. And if you start 418 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:25,239 Speaker 1: to be a run heavy, play action heavy type of 419 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 1: offense maybe moving forward, and now you have basically a 420 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:32,000 Speaker 1: sixth offensive lineman on the field that once you run 421 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:35,160 Speaker 1: that play action fake and you get those linebackers stepping up, 422 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:37,960 Speaker 1: he can sneak behind somebody up the seam or something 423 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 1: like that. He has that ability about him to run 424 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:44,199 Speaker 1: the seam, to adjust the balls in the air and 425 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:46,639 Speaker 1: make catches outside of his frame with his length and 426 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:49,480 Speaker 1: his size, and then rumble after the catch like he's 427 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:52,800 Speaker 1: got Dak Gronkowski bounce off of me type of yacability. 428 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 1: And that fits really well with like an under center 429 00:18:55,920 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 1: play action downhill run offense, which I wouldn't be surprised 430 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:02,240 Speaker 1: if that's where they go. I also wouldn't be surprised 431 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:04,879 Speaker 1: if it's the total opposite, but I feel like that 432 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:07,120 Speaker 1: it is a possibility at least that that's the type 433 00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:09,320 Speaker 1: of offense they run. All right, now, we're gonna take 434 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:12,360 Speaker 1: a quick cut over to our interview with Mark Scofield 435 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:15,919 Speaker 1: of SB Nation and we're gonna talk some quarterbacks. All right. 436 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:18,159 Speaker 1: We're excited to be joined out by Mark Scofield of 437 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:19,920 Speaker 1: SP Nation. If you guys don't know him, he is 438 00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:21,879 Speaker 1: a quarterback guro. He knows everything there is to know 439 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:24,080 Speaker 1: about quarterbacks and the draft classes. I was happy to 440 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 1: run across him here at the combine as we usually do. 441 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:29,120 Speaker 1: How to have him come on talk about this class 442 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:31,119 Speaker 1: a little bit about Mac as well. I know Evan 443 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:33,480 Speaker 1: is familiar with him. Thank Mars, thank you for coming on. 444 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:35,959 Speaker 1: How are you doing here at your combine week? I 445 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:37,239 Speaker 1: know you just got in last night, right I did, 446 00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:39,480 Speaker 1: yet it I get in Thursday morning. It's it's strange 447 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:41,240 Speaker 1: the way the schedule is set up this year, because 448 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:43,640 Speaker 1: they had the general manager's head coaches early in the week. 449 00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:46,359 Speaker 1: Usually like to see that. But we got quarterbacks thrown 450 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:48,480 Speaker 1: on Saturday, and that's you know what I do, That's 451 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:50,720 Speaker 1: what I love. So I want to make sure I 452 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 1: could be here for that. So I came in Thursday morning, 453 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 1: which is probably physically for the best because combined week 454 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:58,840 Speaker 1: tends to be a bit People are running on fumes 455 00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:00,560 Speaker 1: right now, so I've still got a little bit of 456 00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:02,640 Speaker 1: get up and go left. I don't know how long 457 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:05,120 Speaker 1: that's gonna last. It's raiding here in Indy today on Thursday, 458 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:07,239 Speaker 1: so that's taking a lot out of us. But it 459 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:09,080 Speaker 1: is great to be here. It's great to see you guys. 460 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:11,640 Speaker 1: Always fun to catch up, you know, on air off air, 461 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:14,240 Speaker 1: and I'm really excited to be here. One of these days, 462 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:17,359 Speaker 1: I'm gonna publish some of our dms together, Mark, because 463 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:19,920 Speaker 1: it's just me being like, am I right about this? 464 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:23,159 Speaker 1: Or am I seeing this correctly? Or of the time 465 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:28,840 Speaker 1: You're out here, two kinds now back and forth about 466 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:31,600 Speaker 1: quarterbacks with you all the time, and I'm always like, 467 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:34,960 Speaker 1: it's his foot, like a little bit off here, what's 468 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 1: going on? We went as deep as like Tyree Jackson, 469 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:41,240 Speaker 1: I think you and I have discussed before and all 470 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:43,480 Speaker 1: the way down the rabbit hole we go. But I 471 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:46,119 Speaker 1: think to start We'll get into the draft in a second, 472 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:48,960 Speaker 1: but I would love your opinion on Mac last season 473 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:51,359 Speaker 1: and what you saw from him that led to the 474 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:55,240 Speaker 1: regression from a quarterbacking standpoint, not just a coaching standpoint, 475 00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:57,960 Speaker 1: but some of the mechanical things or the processing things. Yeah. 476 00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 1: I mean we know the coaching stuff, we know the 477 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:02,200 Speaker 1: scheme stuff, and that's sort of been talked about it. 478 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:04,960 Speaker 1: I could go twenty minutes on run more play action, 479 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:07,800 Speaker 1: we could go down that road. But I think sort 480 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:12,879 Speaker 1: of mechanically structurally, there were some lower body inconsistencies from 481 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:15,280 Speaker 1: Mac Jones last year that we hadn't really seen before. 482 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:16,879 Speaker 1: This is part of what you and our DM in 483 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:19,320 Speaker 1: a mode. Yeah, sometimes that front foot wasn't where it 484 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 1: needed to be, or you know, the hallway, like we say, 485 00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:24,480 Speaker 1: with the hips weren't set the right way to get 486 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 1: him in a position to make a good throw downfield, 487 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:30,520 Speaker 1: whether it's you know, intermediate DP boundary wherever. And so 488 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:34,119 Speaker 1: I think that's part of what he faces this offseason, 489 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:37,480 Speaker 1: is to reset him from a mechanical standpoint, particularly in 490 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:39,800 Speaker 1: the lower half. That was on an issue coming out 491 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:41,879 Speaker 1: of Alabama. I mean, coming out of Alabama, he was 492 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:47,720 Speaker 1: fairly clean mechanically, whether it was protection upfront, trying to 493 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:50,600 Speaker 1: get through reads, quicker, trying to speed himself up for 494 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:53,080 Speaker 1: one reason or another, that sort of took a step back, 495 00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:54,879 Speaker 1: and I think that's part of the process. We can 496 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:59,040 Speaker 1: certainly talk about the conceptual stuff, the schemes, the designs, 497 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:02,320 Speaker 1: the play calling, but from a get the ball where 498 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:04,440 Speaker 1: it needs to be, where it needs to be their perspective, 499 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 1: that's one of the biggest things he's facing this offseason. 500 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:08,879 Speaker 1: And so when you look at Bill O'Brien coming back 501 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 1: to the Patriots this year, what, knowing what you know 502 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:13,560 Speaker 1: about him, what's kind of your expectation in terms of 503 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:17,800 Speaker 1: how are Mac Jones's game, bill O'Brien's offense, his philosophy's 504 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:20,720 Speaker 1: gonna mesh this year? I have, you know, I'm pretty 505 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:23,000 Speaker 1: optimistic about what this is going to look like next year. 506 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:25,320 Speaker 1: And part of that is if you sort of watch 507 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:28,639 Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien and his offensive philosophy, he molds it to 508 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:31,400 Speaker 1: his talents, he molds it to the quarterback that he has. 509 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:33,600 Speaker 1: I mean, obviously, add somebody that we just heard from 510 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 1: this morning and Bryce Young and you know the way 511 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:37,920 Speaker 1: he was able to mold and you know, shape that 512 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:40,920 Speaker 1: offense and what Bryce Young likes to do, spread it out, 513 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:43,320 Speaker 1: get the ball out quickly, things like that and some 514 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:45,200 Speaker 1: of the other things he's done over his various coaching 515 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 1: stops for different types of quarterbacks. That tells me that 516 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:50,679 Speaker 1: they're going to figure out over the course of these 517 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:53,359 Speaker 1: next couple of months where Mac Jones needs to be 518 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:56,359 Speaker 1: where he's most comfortable, and that's what the offense is 519 00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:58,359 Speaker 1: going to look like. So I mean, I could tell you, 520 00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:00,439 Speaker 1: you know, what it should look like, what it might 521 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 1: look like. They're going to figure that out. They're going 522 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:04,320 Speaker 1: to figure out what it looks like and best in 523 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 1: Mac Jones's hands. And that's the biggest part of this 524 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:09,200 Speaker 1: because you know, now Mac Jones is going to be, 525 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:12,200 Speaker 1: in a way, a third offense a three years that's 526 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:16,439 Speaker 1: not always conducive to quarterback development. So now the process becomes, 527 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:19,639 Speaker 1: where do you take this offense? How do you construct 528 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:22,000 Speaker 1: it in a way that Mac Jones wants it, because 529 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:24,920 Speaker 1: that's what the focus should be. Now. You know, we 530 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:27,000 Speaker 1: used to live in a world where like the best receivers, 531 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:29,440 Speaker 1: the open receiver and all that fun stuff. No, let's 532 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:31,960 Speaker 1: find out what Matt Jones wants to do. Where's he comfortable, 533 00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:34,359 Speaker 1: what designs does he want to run? Put it in 534 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:36,720 Speaker 1: his hands. If it works, that's what we want. If 535 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:39,200 Speaker 1: it doesn't, now you've got your answer. After year three 536 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:40,720 Speaker 1: of the Mac Jones experiment. Let me let me ask 537 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:42,440 Speaker 1: a quick follo up heaven Um. Just in terms of 538 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 1: the guys that are here, wide receivers, tight ends, we've 539 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:46,600 Speaker 1: talked a lot about we think they need weapons. You know, 540 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:48,720 Speaker 1: for you, is there a particular and it doesn't even 541 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:50,240 Speaker 1: have to be a specific player maybe it is, but 542 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 1: just a style of player or style of weapon or 543 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:53,920 Speaker 1: you know, what do you think they need to put 544 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:57,720 Speaker 1: around Mac to to do what you're saying, to play 545 00:23:57,760 --> 00:23:59,280 Speaker 1: to those strengths what you mean? I mean a lot 546 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:01,600 Speaker 1: about quickness. There are two guys that come to mind 547 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:04,720 Speaker 1: remedia that Quentin Johnson from TCU, Zay Flowers from Boston College. 548 00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:07,920 Speaker 1: And what I look for are guys that can create 549 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:10,240 Speaker 1: up to the catch point and then after the catch 550 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:12,360 Speaker 1: because I think some of the times we saw Mac 551 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:14,760 Speaker 1: most comfortable was when they were sort of spreading things out. 552 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:16,520 Speaker 1: They don't get the ball out of his hands. Quickly. 553 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:18,840 Speaker 1: The guys that create after the catch, that can create 554 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:21,040 Speaker 1: in space, and those are two guys that can certainly 555 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:22,520 Speaker 1: do that can do it at a high level. And 556 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:24,879 Speaker 1: so whether it's at fourteen, which is probably why you're 557 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:26,720 Speaker 1: gonna have to do it with one of those guys, 558 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:29,240 Speaker 1: or a trade back, those are two players that I 559 00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:31,440 Speaker 1: really have in mind. But it's really that ability to 560 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:35,960 Speaker 1: create before the catch point, release packages, separation make life 561 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:37,840 Speaker 1: a little bit easier in mac Jones with what those 562 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:40,399 Speaker 1: guys can do, and then after the catch created with 563 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:43,639 Speaker 1: yards after the catchers where this offense has been historically, 564 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 1: and that's what they need in this offense. You know, 565 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:48,720 Speaker 1: whether they bring Parker back, whether they bring Meyers back, 566 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:52,280 Speaker 1: either way, having a player like that will be huge 567 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:55,159 Speaker 1: for this offense next year. Yeah. Absolutely, I think the 568 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:57,119 Speaker 1: big thing I wanted to ask about with Mackett and 569 00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:58,399 Speaker 1: then I think we can move more on to the 570 00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:02,800 Speaker 1: draft prospect. But out of structure playmaking and out of 571 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:06,439 Speaker 1: the pocket playmaking is something that is getting really popular 572 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:07,800 Speaker 1: around in the league. And I think this is a 573 00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:10,200 Speaker 1: big question mark that people have with the future with 574 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:13,160 Speaker 1: mac Jones, is he's not one of these Patrick Mahomes 575 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:15,800 Speaker 1: Josh Allen type of athletes that gets out the side 576 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:17,800 Speaker 1: of the pocket. I guess it's a two prong question. One, 577 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:20,200 Speaker 1: how much do you think that that actually matters to 578 00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:22,639 Speaker 1: quarterback play in the league right now? And do you 579 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:24,800 Speaker 1: think that that is something that he could improve on 580 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:28,160 Speaker 1: and become better at outside the pocket, out of structure 581 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:29,840 Speaker 1: type of stuff. Yeah, I mean, I think it does 582 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:32,640 Speaker 1: matter because it gets to the idea of football as 583 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:35,960 Speaker 1: problem solving, right, and if you've got multiple ways on 584 00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:38,760 Speaker 1: a down to down basis to solve problems as a quarterback, 585 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 1: whether it's with your mind, whether it's with your arm 586 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:44,800 Speaker 1: and velocity, or created as a secondary reaction player where okay, 587 00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:46,639 Speaker 1: we've got a free rusher off the left edge, I 588 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:49,400 Speaker 1: could spit away from that and create off of structure 589 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:52,280 Speaker 1: outside the pocket. The more ways you can solve a 590 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:54,879 Speaker 1: problem as a quarterback, the better the offense is going 591 00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:56,159 Speaker 1: to be. If you're only going to be able to 592 00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:58,320 Speaker 1: solve it with your mind and your arm and you're 593 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:01,360 Speaker 1: dead to rights when you get that free rusher, defenses 594 00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:03,199 Speaker 1: will be able to take advantage of that. Now, can 595 00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:05,680 Speaker 1: Mack do that? I think so? As a rookie, I 596 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:08,200 Speaker 1: thought he showed a little bit more athleticism than perhaps 597 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:09,959 Speaker 1: we gave him credit for in the breads. I gave 598 00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 1: him credit for coming out of Alabama. But his next 599 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:15,600 Speaker 1: evolution in this process is to be ahead of things 600 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:17,320 Speaker 1: with his mind. And I know you, Evan, You and 601 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:19,200 Speaker 1: I talked about this a little bit going into his 602 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:23,960 Speaker 1: year too. Was pre snap pressure identification. Okay, can you 603 00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:26,399 Speaker 1: get a better idea before that snap of where that 604 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:28,240 Speaker 1: pressure was coming from? If you think back to his 605 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:30,600 Speaker 1: college days, he had to play against Notre Dame in 606 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:33,040 Speaker 1: their playoff game where he saw that blitz coming pre 607 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 1: snap and was Evan you and I talked about this 608 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:37,600 Speaker 1: a lot and spun away from him because he was 609 00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:39,480 Speaker 1: ahead of it with his mind. If he can get 610 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:42,040 Speaker 1: to that level in the NFL, he'll be able to 611 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:44,800 Speaker 1: create some of these sort of outside the pocket, off 612 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:47,440 Speaker 1: of structure moments. He's never gonna be, you know, a 613 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:50,080 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray or Lamar Jackson, but if he can get 614 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:51,560 Speaker 1: ahead of things with his mind, he can be a 615 00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:54,679 Speaker 1: Ryan Tannehill type who Okay, he's not gonna create as 616 00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:57,600 Speaker 1: an athlete or be an explosive, you know, ball carrier, 617 00:26:57,880 --> 00:26:59,520 Speaker 1: but he can get ahead of things with his mind, 618 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:02,360 Speaker 1: beat fences with mine and put himself then physically post 619 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 1: snap in a position to do that. Yeah, I think 620 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:07,640 Speaker 1: the big thing for me is that people always get 621 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:11,120 Speaker 1: caught up and out of structure bombs down the field, right, 622 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 1: and it doesn't always have to be that. I remember 623 00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:16,040 Speaker 1: he made play against Baltimore last year where he scrambled 624 00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:18,200 Speaker 1: out on fourth down and was able to just find 625 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:19,960 Speaker 1: somebody right past the sticks for like a four or 626 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:23,080 Speaker 1: five yard game, which still added something to what they 627 00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:26,119 Speaker 1: were doing. It wasn't necessarily a Josh Allen, you know, 628 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:28,480 Speaker 1: seventy five yard piss missile. It was something a little 629 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:30,600 Speaker 1: bit different, And I think that that's okay, Like, we 630 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:33,399 Speaker 1: don't have to sometimes you just got to get to 631 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:35,280 Speaker 1: the next play, right, you know, And we get so 632 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:37,560 Speaker 1: caught up. And I was having this conversation this morning Evan, 633 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:40,399 Speaker 1: we get so caught up in like, oh, explosive plays, 634 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:42,399 Speaker 1: and you do have to generate those as an offense, 635 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:44,400 Speaker 1: but sometimes you just got to get to the fresh 636 00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:47,280 Speaker 1: set of downs. And that play you referenced Evan, like, yes, 637 00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:49,280 Speaker 1: what it would be awesome if he then throws across 638 00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:52,320 Speaker 1: his body thirty five yards downfield to the opposite hash. Yeah, 639 00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:55,119 Speaker 1: we'd all be losing our minds, rightfully so, but sometimes 640 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:57,800 Speaker 1: it's just as important to Jacobe Myers is at the 641 00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:00,720 Speaker 1: five yards downfield, it's fourth and four. Let's get to 642 00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:03,359 Speaker 1: first down. Because now the playbooks open, we're still on 643 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:05,080 Speaker 1: the field. We're not sending out the punt team, we're 644 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:07,080 Speaker 1: not sending out the defense again. And so, you know, 645 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:11,119 Speaker 1: sometimes being a quarterback that can create outside of the pocket, 646 00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:13,800 Speaker 1: off of structure is just can you get us another 647 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:16,840 Speaker 1: set of downs? Yeah? Absolutely, so we saw the quarterbacks today. 648 00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:18,719 Speaker 1: I know this is your thing, Mark, that's why you're here. Um, 649 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:20,760 Speaker 1: I'll just teet up for you know, general general thoughts 650 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:22,480 Speaker 1: on the class. I mean, we know Bryce Young, we 651 00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:24,840 Speaker 1: know CJ. Stroud. We've got to look at Anthony Richardson, 652 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:27,080 Speaker 1: who looks like he was sculpting in a lab. No 653 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:30,000 Speaker 1: reports that the Patriots actually met with him. What are 654 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:31,760 Speaker 1: your thoughts and what are you looking for here these 655 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:33,520 Speaker 1: next couple of days with these guys. It's a very 656 00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:36,920 Speaker 1: interesting class, Mike. I'm very excited about this group. And 657 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:39,120 Speaker 1: it's really I've used this phrase a couple of times. 658 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:42,000 Speaker 1: It's a pick your poison quarterback class. Like, you could 659 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:43,680 Speaker 1: tell me, are these four guys that we're all sort 660 00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:45,880 Speaker 1: of talking about it at the top, whether it's Levis, Richardson, 661 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:48,120 Speaker 1: Stroud Young, you can tell me any one of those 662 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 1: is your QB one. I might not agree myself, but 663 00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:52,400 Speaker 1: I could see a case for it, even Levis, who 664 00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:57,240 Speaker 1: most people have here's that they with Will Levis. So 665 00:28:57,320 --> 00:29:00,480 Speaker 1: this is I've used this sort of hypothetical lot. If 666 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:03,479 Speaker 1: he goes to Carolina at nine, it could work right 667 00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:06,840 Speaker 1: because they have put so much around that quarterback position, 668 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:09,000 Speaker 1: whether it's Frank Reich, who's got a record of quarterback 669 00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:11,440 Speaker 1: development dating back to Philadelphia in his first run with 670 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:14,760 Speaker 1: Carson Wentz, Josh mcdowan who was basically like a coach 671 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:17,520 Speaker 1: last player with the Jets, and Sam Donald, Like, they've 672 00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:20,880 Speaker 1: put a lot structurally around the quarterback position where I 673 00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:22,640 Speaker 1: could talk myself and do what working with well off 674 00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:25,040 Speaker 1: its But look the three that excite me the most. Yeah, 675 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:28,360 Speaker 1: it's Shroud, It's Young, It's Richardson. I think everybody that's 676 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:30,240 Speaker 1: going to be in Lucas Oil on Saturday to watch 677 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:33,480 Speaker 1: Richardson throw and work out, we might see a show, 678 00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:36,560 Speaker 1: you know, because he might throw some incredible throws during 679 00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:38,320 Speaker 1: his throwing session and then run a four or four, 680 00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:41,400 Speaker 1: and then it becomes that could be something special. We 681 00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:46,000 Speaker 1: could leave Indianapolis saying he's the first player drafted. It's possible. 682 00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:48,760 Speaker 1: We were talking about Mike. You just mentioned that the 683 00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:51,960 Speaker 1: Patriots didn't meet with Anthony Richardson. It's a little bit interesting. 684 00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:54,400 Speaker 1: I think we were talking about maybe them doing some 685 00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:56,960 Speaker 1: due diligence on him against the Jets draft him, or 686 00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:59,800 Speaker 1: the Raiders draft him, or something like that ahead of 687 00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:03,320 Speaker 1: that on the draft board. But what I have found 688 00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:05,800 Speaker 1: fascinating about his film, just like I've only watched like 689 00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:07,600 Speaker 1: one or two games because I don't think they're going 690 00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:10,600 Speaker 1: to draft them, but regardless is that it doesn't seem 691 00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:14,120 Speaker 1: to be about his eyes or where he's looking or processing. 692 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:17,240 Speaker 1: It's mechanical. And that is why I think so many 693 00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:20,960 Speaker 1: people us in the media and teams are saying this 694 00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:23,560 Speaker 1: guy's fixable, like you can you can get this guy there, 695 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:26,360 Speaker 1: because it's not about what's between the ears. It's just 696 00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:28,800 Speaker 1: that his feet are a little bit wacky. Sometimes it's 697 00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:31,040 Speaker 1: mechanics are a little bit off. Yeah, I think his 698 00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:33,240 Speaker 1: eyes are for the most part where they need to 699 00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:35,200 Speaker 1: be on a given play. I mean, you watch that 700 00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:37,600 Speaker 1: Florida State game. He had a touchdown to Piersol up 701 00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:40,280 Speaker 1: the right sea on a post route where he's looking 702 00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:42,520 Speaker 1: them off, looking that post safety in middlefield off and 703 00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:44,360 Speaker 1: then comes back on time and rhythm and throws an 704 00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:46,720 Speaker 1: absolute strike And it's like, I don't It's a put 705 00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:48,720 Speaker 1: the pen down moment, right, Like, I don't need to 706 00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:51,080 Speaker 1: see anything else. And if you add the four or four, 707 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:53,360 Speaker 1: if you add the run against LSU, the pocket movement 708 00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:56,040 Speaker 1: against tennessee all the clips that get you posted on 709 00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:59,000 Speaker 1: Twitter day in and day out, there's potential there for 710 00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:00,760 Speaker 1: him to be very special. But you're right, Evan, the 711 00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:02,400 Speaker 1: eyes for the most part of where they need to be. 712 00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:05,560 Speaker 1: It's just getting the feet to match the eyes. And 713 00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:07,840 Speaker 1: I think you know you hear the phrase he's raw. 714 00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:10,520 Speaker 1: He needs two years. No, he just needs reps. I 715 00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:13,240 Speaker 1: think he could play. He could play as a rookie 716 00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:16,160 Speaker 1: and play very well. Yeah, what else you're looking at 717 00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:17,800 Speaker 1: be lower down? I mean, we know we talked a 718 00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:20,760 Speaker 1: little bit to Dorian Thompson Robinson today, who they coached 719 00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:22,160 Speaker 1: at the Shrine Bowl, had a lot of great things 720 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:24,200 Speaker 1: to say just about the Patriots tap not a huge need, 721 00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:25,840 Speaker 1: of course for the Patriots, but I mean, I'm in 722 00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:27,880 Speaker 1: the business. I'm sharing the same It's always good business 723 00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:30,520 Speaker 1: to have the quarterbacks in the pipeline. Love taking Zappy 724 00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:32,920 Speaker 1: last year. It doesn't necessarily have to be a refermendum 725 00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:35,760 Speaker 1: on your starter. Maybe a little bit, but not necessarily. 726 00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:38,640 Speaker 1: Who are the guys? Maybe day two, day three, maybe 727 00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:40,880 Speaker 1: that you might like to just take a flyer on. Yeah, Mike, 728 00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:43,840 Speaker 1: I think I don't want to say. The more interesting 729 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:45,800 Speaker 1: question is who is QB five? But it's a very 730 00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:48,080 Speaker 1: interesting question because we're all sort of cold lesser around 731 00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:51,520 Speaker 1: the top four. Who's the next quarterback? Hennon Hooker very interesting? 732 00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:53,960 Speaker 1: Put up huge numbers this year, but you've got some 733 00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:55,880 Speaker 1: question marks about the offense that he ran and how 734 00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:59,600 Speaker 1: translatable that is. Obviously the age, the knee injury. You know, 735 00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:01,160 Speaker 1: I think there are things you can say about all 736 00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:03,160 Speaker 1: of those. The offense could translate, you could run some 737 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:05,560 Speaker 1: of those concepts. The knee he's almost ready to throw. 738 00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:07,800 Speaker 1: I mean a clo injuries aren't what they were a 739 00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:10,560 Speaker 1: couple of years ago. The age quarterbacks are playing earlier 740 00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:12,760 Speaker 1: in their career, so it's not the detriment it used 741 00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:14,480 Speaker 1: to be when you hold a clipboard for three years 742 00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:17,640 Speaker 1: before you saw the field. I'm very intrigued by Jake Hanner. 743 00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:19,440 Speaker 1: You know, he was somebody that was really fun to 744 00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:22,640 Speaker 1: watch these past couple of years. Tough, competitive, had an 745 00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:25,320 Speaker 1: injury against UCLA two years ago, but finished that game, 746 00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:27,760 Speaker 1: got a big win. This year, he had the you know, 747 00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:30,560 Speaker 1: the lower body injury against usc but came back well 748 00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:33,440 Speaker 1: ahead of schedule, played at the Mount to West Championship game. 749 00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:36,400 Speaker 1: You know another quarterback that I'm intrigued by is Tanner 750 00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:40,080 Speaker 1: McKee from Stanford. I wonder if he's sort of you know, 751 00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:42,720 Speaker 1: behind the times a bit, you know, Joe Flacco. It'd 752 00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:44,600 Speaker 1: say if this was two thousand and five, he might 753 00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:46,080 Speaker 1: be in the mix for QB one, but it's not 754 00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:49,320 Speaker 1: so now. He's probably a Day three guy. You know, 755 00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:53,600 Speaker 1: dtrs fascinating, yeah, you know, incredibly athletic. You know, Jack 756 00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:56,120 Speaker 1: chip Kelly offense did a lot to stress defenses both 757 00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:58,080 Speaker 1: in the run game in the past game, made some 758 00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:01,040 Speaker 1: impressive throws. Obviously an a lead and with the way 759 00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:02,880 Speaker 1: the game is trending, like we just talked about, would 760 00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:05,040 Speaker 1: create an office structure and outside the pocket if you 761 00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:06,640 Speaker 1: want to take a flyer in a quarterback on day 762 00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:09,360 Speaker 1: three somebody you've now got experienced coaching, and you know 763 00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:11,760 Speaker 1: how they take to coaching, which is, you know, whenever 764 00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:14,240 Speaker 1: we talk about Shrine Bowl, Senior Bowl, people get caught 765 00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:16,680 Speaker 1: up in the game itself or how they look in drills. 766 00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:18,840 Speaker 1: The teams want to see if you take to coaching. 767 00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:21,200 Speaker 1: If you told them something Monday in practice, do you 768 00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:23,360 Speaker 1: run it the next day or not. Patriot's got a 769 00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:24,920 Speaker 1: good look at that with dtr and if they came 770 00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:27,360 Speaker 1: away liking what they saw, it wouldn't surprise me if 771 00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:30,479 Speaker 1: they drafted him Monday three. What about jarn Hall from BYU. 772 00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:34,680 Speaker 1: I had high expectations coming into this season, you know, 773 00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:36,880 Speaker 1: I think he sort of had a down week, you know, 774 00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:39,920 Speaker 1: in his sort of Senior Bowl experience. What I like 775 00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:42,959 Speaker 1: about him as pocket movement and pocket boys. There are 776 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:44,920 Speaker 1: some plays he had this year at BYU where I 777 00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:46,800 Speaker 1: remember one play if you get who it was against, 778 00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:49,080 Speaker 1: but there's pressure off the left edge and he doesn't 779 00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:50,920 Speaker 1: even drop his eyes for a second, even though it's 780 00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:54,120 Speaker 1: right in his blindside. He just feels and it moves around. 781 00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:56,840 Speaker 1: He had some throws against Notre Dame. Now, there was 782 00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:59,120 Speaker 1: a situational and wearing a sack against Notre Dame where 783 00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:00,800 Speaker 1: he gave up a safety, but there are some other 784 00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:03,320 Speaker 1: moments in that game where he's just almost impervious to pressure, 785 00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:05,520 Speaker 1: and that's something you can't teach. And you're gonna face 786 00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:08,120 Speaker 1: a lot of pressure playing quarterback in the NFL. And 787 00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:10,200 Speaker 1: so I think again, if you get into that sort 788 00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:12,959 Speaker 1: of you know, round full of round five, round six range, 789 00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:15,759 Speaker 1: I'm with you, Mike. You should always be looking to 790 00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:19,280 Speaker 1: upgrade the quarterback room overall, whether it's as a starter, 791 00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:21,680 Speaker 1: somebody to push the starter, or even somebody to push 792 00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:24,399 Speaker 1: QB two, because if number one goes down, you better 793 00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:26,400 Speaker 1: have a good answer at number two. Otherwise you're wasting 794 00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:28,560 Speaker 1: weeks in the NFL. And we don't we don't like 795 00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:31,080 Speaker 1: wasting weeks in the NFL. Here on the new inclam Patriots, Right, 796 00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:32,839 Speaker 1: all right, Well, I don't want to end it before 797 00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:34,719 Speaker 1: you get a last chance. Even did you get everything 798 00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:36,440 Speaker 1: off your chest here? I don't. You're gonna have to 799 00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:38,719 Speaker 1: take the DMS later to get there. There's there's a 800 00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:41,000 Speaker 1: big one that I do want to ask you about, 801 00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:43,879 Speaker 1: and I think this is a really popular conversation. It's 802 00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:46,600 Speaker 1: it's a popular take in Boston right now that the 803 00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:49,440 Speaker 1: Patriots should follow the model that the Eagles followed by 804 00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:52,640 Speaker 1: hedging their bets with Carson Wentz with Jalen Hurts right 805 00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:55,000 Speaker 1: and making sure that you have somebody like that. And 806 00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:56,839 Speaker 1: I think the only guy in this draft that fits 807 00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:58,600 Speaker 1: that is Head and Hooker, Like I can't really think 808 00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:02,560 Speaker 1: of anybody else that, But I have reservations about Okay 809 00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:05,120 Speaker 1: now as a guy coming off in ACL who's already 810 00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:08,719 Speaker 1: an older prospect, and Mac Jones only in year three. 811 00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:11,440 Speaker 1: Carson Wentz was year five when they did that in Philadelphia. 812 00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:14,240 Speaker 1: It's a much different situation. But what are your opinions 813 00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:16,640 Speaker 1: on Hooker? And a lot of people I've heard of said, 814 00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:18,560 Speaker 1: if he didn't have a turn toward a c L, 815 00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:20,160 Speaker 1: we might be talking about him in the first round. 816 00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:21,960 Speaker 1: I don't know if you're that high on him. I'm 817 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:24,480 Speaker 1: not that high on him, but I do understand the 818 00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:28,360 Speaker 1: allure obviously the production that offense, though how much of 819 00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:30,719 Speaker 1: that is translatable because they had those wide splits, a 820 00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:34,719 Speaker 1: lot of stacks concept a lot of switch concepts. I mean, yeah, 821 00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:37,239 Speaker 1: let you know, it's a limited rout tree. But four 822 00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:39,920 Speaker 1: two is four two, right. There's also that aspect to it, 823 00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:42,360 Speaker 1: you know. I think the conversation with Hooker that's fascinating 824 00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:44,800 Speaker 1: and again is sort of like you got to the 825 00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:46,960 Speaker 1: age thing. Now. There are ways where you could say, look, 826 00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:49,480 Speaker 1: it's not an issue. But in New England, if you 827 00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:51,719 Speaker 1: might give Mac another year or two, then you're talking 828 00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:54,120 Speaker 1: two more years before Hooker seats a field. It's a 829 00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:58,040 Speaker 1: different conversation. I think, Look, this is a copycat sport, 830 00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:00,680 Speaker 1: it's a copycat league. People say, oh, just made a run. 831 00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:02,200 Speaker 1: Look at how they structured it. We should do what 832 00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:05,520 Speaker 1: they did. Let's also remember this time last year, Howie 833 00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:07,640 Speaker 1: Roseman and Nick Sirianni was sitting at the podium in 834 00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:09,879 Speaker 1: the next room saying, yeah, we believe in Jaden and Hurts. 835 00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:12,120 Speaker 1: We're gonna build around him. As they were calling around 836 00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:15,759 Speaker 1: about Russell Wilson. Like you know, they also acquired a 837 00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:17,719 Speaker 1: future first round pick in this year's draft in case 838 00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:19,840 Speaker 1: it didn't work out with Jalen Hurts, Like you know, 839 00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:22,240 Speaker 1: they can hedge their bets differently, the New England Patriots 840 00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:24,800 Speaker 1: can you know, they could acquire a future draft capital, 841 00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:27,239 Speaker 1: they could give Bailey Zappie a shot if it doesn't 842 00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:29,520 Speaker 1: work out this year with Mac Jones. Now, I think 843 00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:31,560 Speaker 1: next year is probably the draft if it doesn't work 844 00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:33,680 Speaker 1: out with Mac this year, where you might see them 845 00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:36,680 Speaker 1: trying to move up to perhaps Drake may Kayleb Williams 846 00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:38,920 Speaker 1: something like that might be cost for him to do so, 847 00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:41,960 Speaker 1: but I think that's probably the Mac Jones gets this 848 00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:43,520 Speaker 1: year to sort of figure it out. It's year three, 849 00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:45,800 Speaker 1: that's take the step with Bill O'Brien. If it doesn't, 850 00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:48,239 Speaker 1: we're gonna explore some options in twenty four. Yeah, that 851 00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:53,799 Speaker 1: Drake make It's good, He's very good. Williams, Mike get 852 00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:57,719 Speaker 1: ahead of our will we do this every year? Right, 853 00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:01,080 Speaker 1: It's like, well this girl next year? Next you watch 854 00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:03,719 Speaker 1: Josh down. So I think is a really nice fit 855 00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:06,680 Speaker 1: for the Patriots in the slot. And I'm texting my 856 00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:09,279 Speaker 1: podcast co host Ogs Bars. We text all the time 857 00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:11,759 Speaker 1: about prospects, and I'm like, he knows way more about 858 00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:13,719 Speaker 1: college football than me. So I'm texting, I'm like, who's 859 00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:17,160 Speaker 1: this quarterback that UNC has guys like throwing off platforms. 860 00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:19,680 Speaker 1: I was talking to an UNC coach yesterday and I 861 00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:22,480 Speaker 1: was just like, casually speaking, so who who's who has 862 00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:24,279 Speaker 1: already come around looking for Drake May It's like all 863 00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:26,319 Speaker 1: thirty two two years. Yeah, so let's put it that way. 864 00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:28,839 Speaker 1: It's very excited. Well, and now we're onto the twenty twenty. 865 00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:30,399 Speaker 1: I know that's what I was gonna say. And Mark 866 00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:31,880 Speaker 1: will be back next year at the Scout and Combine. 867 00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:33,520 Speaker 1: We'll have him back on. So Mark, thank you, you 868 00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:35,600 Speaker 1: know so much for taking some time giving your you know, 869 00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:37,320 Speaker 1: your knowledge as you do on Twitter as well, and 870 00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:38,719 Speaker 1: as you guys can tell, give him a follow at 871 00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:41,920 Speaker 1: Mark Scholfield Espnation read all this stuff. Um, if quarterback 872 00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:44,279 Speaker 1: becomes a need anytime in the future, certainly that he's 873 00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:46,319 Speaker 1: the guy to hit up. So Mark, thanks for joining us, guys, 874 00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:49,279 Speaker 1: Thanks so much for having we always a blast. All right. 875 00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:52,040 Speaker 1: That'll do it for Lazarre and Deuce on Friday from 876 00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:55,160 Speaker 1: the Combine. One more day to go, and I gotta 877 00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:57,120 Speaker 1: admit I'm still I still got some energy. I'm still 878 00:37:57,120 --> 00:37:59,719 Speaker 1: excited to see some of these offensive linemen tomorrow finally 879 00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:01,520 Speaker 1: get a look at them. It's it's probably gonna be 880 00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:03,359 Speaker 1: a little bit more subdued than it was here today 881 00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:05,719 Speaker 1: with all the quarterbacks going anything. You just want to 882 00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:09,839 Speaker 1: tee up for tomorrow. Skronsky, It's Scronsky time, baby, It's 883 00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:12,239 Speaker 1: Scronsky time now, and all seriousness though. I was talking 884 00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:14,319 Speaker 1: to a lot of the edge defenders at the other 885 00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:16,880 Speaker 1: day when we had them available, and there were just 886 00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:19,520 Speaker 1: every single guy you asked had a different answer for 887 00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:22,160 Speaker 1: who the best tackle that they faced was. Which to me, 888 00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:24,520 Speaker 1: I speaks to the depth of the class. You know, 889 00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:28,279 Speaker 1: some guys are saying Anton Harrison, some guys are saying Scronsky. 890 00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:31,440 Speaker 1: Will Anderson said Darnell Right from Tennessee. So that's like 891 00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:33,560 Speaker 1: a riser Darnell right. All I'm gonna mention to him 892 00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:34,800 Speaker 1: in the last couple of days. He's one of my 893 00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:36,920 Speaker 1: guys in this draft too. So you look at some 894 00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:39,800 Speaker 1: of these players at tackle, I think they're going to 895 00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:42,800 Speaker 1: have a ton of options, and you're gonna have somebody 896 00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:45,680 Speaker 1: available in the first two rounds that you will probably 897 00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:47,880 Speaker 1: feel good about starting right out of the gate as 898 00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:49,839 Speaker 1: a rookie, which I think the Patriots could really use. 899 00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:51,760 Speaker 1: All right, guys, keep an eye out for more content 900 00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:55,080 Speaker 1: rolling in tomorrow. Saturday afterwards as a travel day for us, 901 00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:57,080 Speaker 1: so it might be a little late coming in, but 902 00:38:57,239 --> 00:39:01,200 Speaker 1: Monday Tuesday. Look, we're gonna fire out every thing, recaps, videos, 903 00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:03,200 Speaker 1: you guys know how we do it here. It's been 904 00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:05,359 Speaker 1: a great weekend now we're looking forward to a strong, 905 00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:07,880 Speaker 1: finished show. Stay tuned for more content here on Patriots 906 00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:08,239 Speaker 1: dot com.