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Speaker 1: Everyone, just enjoy themselves and take a little breather, and

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Speaker 1: for us consumers, because that's what I care about I

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Speaker 2: Obviously you know Victor Hovelin hater, I.

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Speaker 1: Halftime I think what's crazy is he has to have

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Speaker 1: now it's you know, he's had a longer career of

431
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Speaker 1: all the top players, just of the last thirty forty years,

432
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Speaker 1: probably the most unique career because just put some players

433
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Speaker 1: in his generation, Rory, he has like twenty five wins.

434
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Speaker 1: Justin Thomas won multiple majors, ton of wins, DJ multiple majors.

435
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Speaker 1: What does he have like twenty plus wins? These guys

436
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Speaker 1: win a lot. I look today non internationally, Kepka has

437
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Speaker 1: nine wins obviously, five of them are majors and two

438
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Speaker 1: of them are waste managements. So it's this guy doesn't

439
00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:19,240
Speaker 1: just win like a memorial here, you know, a player's here,

440
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Speaker 1: a random like colonial here like No, he doesn't really

441
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Speaker 1: participate in that operation, the waste management when everyone's there

442
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Speaker 1: and it feels sweet and the majors like it kind

443
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Speaker 1: of makes sense, right. That feels very on brand for

444
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Speaker 1: Brooks Kopka when you actually pull up his Wikipedia and

445
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Speaker 1: see the other wins non mad.

446
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Speaker 3: So here are the numbers. He's got four non majors

447
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Speaker 3: on the PGA Tour, he's got two live golf wins.

448
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Speaker 3: He's got one on the dp World Tour, one on

449
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Speaker 3: the Japan Tour, four on the Challenge Tour, and five majors,

450
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Speaker 3: like of all the different categories, I mean Challenge Tour

451
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Speaker 3: Japan to I get they hadn't played that much over there,

452
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Speaker 3: but he's got more major championship wins than wins on

453
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Speaker 3: any other tour, which we've never seen be for. I mean,

454
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Speaker 3: Andy North had three career PGA Tour wins. Two of

455
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Speaker 3: them were US Opens. That's not this though, That's not hey,

456
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Speaker 3: I just showed up for major championships. And this is

457
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Speaker 3: part of the reason why I believe that brooks Kepka

458
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Speaker 3: has gamed the system, and we've seen that he's sort

459
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Speaker 3: of downplayed the whole live thing. If Phil Mickelson won

460
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Speaker 3: the PGA this past week, the entire narrative is all

461
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Speaker 3: about live, live, live, live live. Brooks Keptka wins, and

462
00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:26,760
Speaker 3: we try to ask him about live, He's like, yeah, whatever, man,

463
00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:28,960
Speaker 3: that's just you know, I just play where I play.

464
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Speaker 3: It doesn't really matter. And there's been a lot of

465
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Speaker 3: rumor that, look, until he substantiates it, I won't I

466
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Speaker 3: won't report it, certainly, but there's been a lot of

467
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Speaker 3: rumors that brooks Keptka wishes that he could go back

468
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Speaker 3: to the PGA Tour and has is having some buyer's remorse.

469
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Speaker 3: I make the point that Brooks has gained the system. John.

470
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Speaker 3: What he has done is, Okay, I don't really care

471
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Speaker 3: about the non majors, so I might as well get

472
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Speaker 3: paid nine figures to go play those non majors instead

473
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Speaker 3: of playing these non majors. And then four times a year,

474
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Speaker 3: I'll flip the switch, I'll play my best golf and

475
00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:05,200
Speaker 3: I'll become known as the major championship killer once again.

476
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Speaker 3: And what's wrong with that? I mean, I get it.

477
00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:10,040
Speaker 3: Some people don't like live some people don't like where

478
00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:13,520
Speaker 3: the money's coming from. I understand that, but just based

479
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Speaker 3: on a business decision for Brooks, keepka. He is living

480
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Speaker 3: the best of both worlds.

481
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Speaker 1: Right now, and now he's restarted his clock. So it

482
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Speaker 1: feels like for the you know, in his prime, he's

483
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Speaker 1: going to be have access to all these majors now

484
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Speaker 1: for the next five years.

485
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Speaker 3: Oh yeah.

486
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Speaker 2: By winning, I.

487
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Speaker 3: Mean he's in the PGA for as long as he

488
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Speaker 3: wants to be. I mean, Sean mckeel won twenty years ago.

489
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Speaker 3: He was back in the field, and he certainly was

490
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Speaker 3: never the player that Brooks Keepka is us open. He's

491
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Speaker 3: got a I think what eight years, seven years left

492
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Speaker 3: on his exemption there that might you know, they might

493
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Speaker 3: tack on more masters. He's now winning for a while.

494
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Speaker 3: I mean, look, he's fine for a while. And even

495
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Speaker 3: if somehow he runs dry in the majors for the

496
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Speaker 3: next three or four years, when he's thirty seven, he

497
00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:02,760
Speaker 3: goes clips on off another one and he extends those exemptions,

498
00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:05,400
Speaker 3: he is just fine for a while. And quite frankly,

499
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Speaker 3: if those exemptions at some point years from now dry up,

500
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Speaker 3: don't be surprised if those major championships give him an exemption,

501
00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:15,480
Speaker 3: because why wouldn't they. He's shown that he can go

502
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Speaker 3: win these things. I don't care if it's ten years

503
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Speaker 3: from now and the knees hurting him again. He just

504
00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:23,840
Speaker 3: gets prepared for these majors. He is the epitome of

505
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Speaker 3: what Tiger Woods has told us for twenty five years.

506
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Speaker 3: What has Tiger said John for twenty five years. He goes,

507
00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:32,440
Speaker 3: I want my game to peak four times a year,

508
00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:36,040
Speaker 3: and I've spent many hours on a driving range, on

509
00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:39,960
Speaker 3: a practice screen talking to the world's best professional golfers

510
00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:43,040
Speaker 3: asking them the question, how do you get your game

511
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Speaker 3: to peak four times a year. I asked Jason Day

512
00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:47,760
Speaker 3: that last week. I reminded him that years ago i'd

513
00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:49,800
Speaker 3: asked him that question. He gave me the best response.

514
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Speaker 3: He literally looked at me and shrugged. He's like, I

515
00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:54,040
Speaker 3: have no idea. It's like, if I'm playing well the

516
00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:56,280
Speaker 3: week before, it's not like I go whoa slow down.

517
00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:58,399
Speaker 3: I don't want to play as well. And obviously that

518
00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:00,720
Speaker 3: was relevant because he had won the Nelson the week

519
00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:03,280
Speaker 3: before then didn't play well when he got to the PGA.

520
00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:07,280
Speaker 3: I don't think anyone has had a better answer, even Tiger,

521
00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:09,560
Speaker 3: for how to get your game to peak four times

522
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Speaker 3: a year. Tiger Tiger peaked every week. I mean, Tiger

523
00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:14,960
Speaker 3: was great at the majors, but he was just as great,

524
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:17,879
Speaker 3: if not even greater, at the regular PGA Tour events.

525
00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:21,879
Speaker 3: Brooks Koepka is the epitome of everything Tiger has told

526
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Speaker 3: us about trying to get your game to peak four

527
00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:27,160
Speaker 3: times a year. He has figured it out unlike anybody else.

528
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Speaker 1: When you think about Phil and Tiger, I think Kepka

529
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Speaker 1: when you just watch him play, is much especially on

530
00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:37,840
Speaker 1: the weekend, much more like a Tiger, just slow Steady

531
00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:41,359
Speaker 1: makes a ton of long par putts than Phil would

532
00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:44,440
Speaker 1: have like sprayed out the planet, miraculous shot over treat

533
00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:48,119
Speaker 1: when he went in big tournaments, crazy flop shot. You know, like,

534
00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:51,360
Speaker 1: how did he just kepka is a little boring and

535
00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:54,200
Speaker 1: he just hits these eight to twelve footers over the week.

536
00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:56,880
Speaker 1: He just makes a ton of pars that you're like, oh,

537
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Speaker 1: this is gonna be a swing, this is gonna be

538
00:26:58,280 --> 00:26:58,639
Speaker 1: a swing.

539
00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:01,520
Speaker 2: Then it's not a swing because he drains putts.

540
00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:03,720
Speaker 3: So there was a strategy that he had coming into

541
00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:06,359
Speaker 3: this one. He said it was based on not getting

542
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:08,400
Speaker 3: the job done at the Masters, Who's fifty four whole

543
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:10,680
Speaker 3: leader got passed by John Rahm, finishing the tie for

544
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:13,399
Speaker 3: second place, and he said afterwards, I sort of lost

545
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:16,800
Speaker 3: my strategy. I lost that mindset. He was asked after

546
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:19,520
Speaker 3: the win. Okay, what was that mindset? He goes, now,

547
00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:22,560
Speaker 3: I'm not done. I'm not telling you because I want

548
00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:24,280
Speaker 3: everyone else to take it away. I think it has

549
00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:28,080
Speaker 3: something to do with playing a little slower, playing methodical,

550
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:31,879
Speaker 3: and basically giving everybody else the heisman, especially when you

551
00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:34,840
Speaker 3: have the lead going into the final round of a major. Look,

552
00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:38,080
Speaker 3: this is how Tiger won fourteen of his fifteen major

553
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:41,480
Speaker 3: championships by playing with the lead going into the final

554
00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:44,960
Speaker 3: round and essentially stiff arming the field and just not

555
00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:47,600
Speaker 3: letting them get any closer to him. And I think

556
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:49,640
Speaker 3: that's a big part of what brooks Kopka is trying

557
00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:51,720
Speaker 3: to do right now, which is let me race out

558
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:54,040
Speaker 3: in front and then just not let you catch me.

559
00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:56,400
Speaker 3: He knows he doesn't have to go shoot sixty three

560
00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:58,680
Speaker 3: on Sunday and win this thing. He can go out

561
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:01,600
Speaker 3: and shoot, Hey, it might be sixty seven, it might

562
00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:04,320
Speaker 3: be sixty nine, but whatever it is, it's gonna be

563
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:07,200
Speaker 3: enough that nobody else can catch him. And he's gonna

564
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:09,159
Speaker 3: look at the leader board and he's gonna figure out

565
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:11,919
Speaker 3: exactly what he needs to do to win. It's not

566
00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:14,680
Speaker 3: unlike a football team that has the ball. All right,

567
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:18,360
Speaker 3: we're up four with three minutes to play, and we've

568
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 3: got the ball. What are you gonna do. You don't

569
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:24,200
Speaker 3: have to throw an eighty yard touchdown pass and solidify

570
00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:27,160
Speaker 3: the victory because you don't need it at that point.

571
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:29,840
Speaker 3: Let's run out the clock and brooks Keepka essentially he's

572
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:32,199
Speaker 3: trying to run out the clock there and whatever it

573
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:35,040
Speaker 3: takes to get a victory. Doesn't necessarily mean making birdies

574
00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:37,640
Speaker 3: every hole, but it does mean not making mistakes. Don't

575
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:40,000
Speaker 3: fumble the ball with three minutes left in your own

576
00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:40,680
Speaker 3: side of the field.

577
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:44,480
Speaker 1: Well, two guys that made mistakes back to back days

578
00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:46,520
Speaker 1: that could have won this tournament, where Corey Connors and

579
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:49,360
Speaker 1: Victor Hovlin that literally hit the same exact shot. I mean,

580
00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:54,080
Speaker 1: it's it's it's eerie. How when Corey Connors did it,

581
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 1: no one knew because you've thought it hit the lip

582
00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:59,760
Speaker 1: like any guy played golf over their career, just as

583
00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 1: a normal as normal people hits the lamp, go some

584
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:07,480
Speaker 1: weird way it got embedded. And then Victor Hoblin you

585
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 1: could tell his reaction, Oh my god, he did the

586
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:10,760
Speaker 1: exact same thing.

587
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:13,680
Speaker 2: And then Brooks knocks it stiff, and that's tournament.

588
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:17,080
Speaker 3: So I've spoken with Hoblin about this in the past.

589
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:19,040
Speaker 3: He is a guy who doesn't watch a whole lot

590
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:20,920
Speaker 3: of golf. Now he says this on his off weeks.

591
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:22,920
Speaker 3: I don't know that this guy goes back to the

592
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:25,640
Speaker 3: rental house or the hotel room after a round, puts

593
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:28,160
Speaker 3: on golf channel and watches. I get the sense he

594
00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:31,360
Speaker 3: doesn't do that, so I still I haven't heard. He

595
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:34,320
Speaker 3: did very limited interviews after the round, but I haven't

596
00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:37,560
Speaker 3: heard whether he actually saw Corey Connor's shot on Saturday

597
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:40,480
Speaker 3: or not. I'm guessing maybe not. I don't necessarily fault

598
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:43,320
Speaker 3: him for the shot at that point he's down. He

599
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:45,960
Speaker 3: has to be a little bit aggressive. I think we

600
00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:48,800
Speaker 3: criticize him if he knocks one back into the fairway

601
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:51,040
Speaker 3: then doesn't get up and down, makes a bogie and

602
00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:53,800
Speaker 3: loses that way, we go, come on, Victor, have some

603
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:56,360
Speaker 3: balls and go for it. So he went for it

604
00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:58,560
Speaker 3: and it didn't work out for him. The one thing

605
00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:01,360
Speaker 3: that surprised me a little bit on I've always seen

606
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,400
Speaker 3: Victor Hoblin is a little kind of happy, go lucky.

607
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 3: You know, I's got the smile, and you know, when

608
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:09,160
Speaker 3: he's playing well, he's like, yeah, what averkut shrugs his shoulders.

609
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:12,280
Speaker 3: When he's not playing well, okay, I mean, which is

610
00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:15,400
Speaker 3: a great life to have as a professional golfer. I've

611
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:17,280
Speaker 3: aways thought he's one of the few guys out there

612
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:22,920
Speaker 3: whose mood isn't dictated by his scores and results. Who's

613
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:25,280
Speaker 3: you know, a lot of the guys out there you

614
00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:28,000
Speaker 3: can look at that. Rory Mclwory's a perfect example. Justin

615
00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:30,360
Speaker 3: Thomas is a great example, Like you don't need to

616
00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:32,280
Speaker 3: look at a leader board. You can just see their

617
00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:34,320
Speaker 3: face on the screen and you know if they're playing

618
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:36,320
Speaker 3: well or not. Victor Hoblin's one of these guys that like,

619
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Speaker 3: I'm in a good mood today, I'm feeling good. Maybe

620
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:41,800
Speaker 3: I shot seventy four, but hey, you know what life

621
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:43,720
Speaker 3: is life, and you know he doesn't have all the

622
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:47,560
Speaker 3: star tissue built up from years of not winning major championships.

623
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Speaker 3: I was very surprised. In the immediate aftermath, I saw

624
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:53,800
Speaker 3: him and he was despondent. I mean, I'm telling you,

625
00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:56,440
Speaker 3: he looked like a guy who you know, someone just

626
00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:59,200
Speaker 3: someone just kicked his dog. I mean, he looked like

627
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:03,800
Speaker 3: you know any other player who's been grinding for twenty

628
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:06,360
Speaker 3: years trying to win a major that can't get it done,

629
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 3: and so well.

630
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:10,920
Speaker 1: He had a legit chance to win, right Kepka lips

631
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:12,160
Speaker 1: out of Pott, he birdies.

632
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:13,920
Speaker 2: I mean, he could. He could have been a major

633
00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:15,800
Speaker 2: right there. He's playing right.

634
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 3: There for the last three majors. I mean, and I

635
00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:21,480
Speaker 3: maintain after every major championship that getting into the heat

636
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:24,320
Speaker 3: of the battle and losing is still a much better

637
00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:27,520
Speaker 3: experience than finishing in forty third place. Like, we're not

638
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:29,920
Speaker 3: talking about the guy that finished in forty third, We're

639
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:32,160
Speaker 3: not talking about, Hey, what do you think of Justin

640
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 3: Thomas this week? And does he takes some positives from that?

641
00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:36,960
Speaker 3: It wasn't even I don't know. He finished before the

642
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:39,920
Speaker 3: leaders even started their round, so it doesn't matter. We're

643
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Speaker 3: talking about Victor Hoblin because he was in the heat

644
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:43,720
Speaker 3: of the battle. This will be a good thing for

645
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:46,000
Speaker 3: him moving forward. But I don't know. I kind of

646
00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:48,560
Speaker 3: like the fact that he was pissed off afterwards, that

647
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:51,200
Speaker 3: he wasn't just like, oh, well, well didn't win a major,

648
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:54,080
Speaker 3: but that's okay. This was not just a shrug of

649
00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:57,480
Speaker 3: the shoulders for Victor Hoblin, and so I think that

650
00:31:57,480 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 3: that's something we want to see. We want to see

651
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:00,880
Speaker 3: him pissed off halfwards.

652
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 1: I'm gonna skip him at LACC, but I peaked at

653
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:05,920
Speaker 1: the Open. He's thirty to one.

654
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:07,000
Speaker 2: I like that.

655
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:10,160
Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna be all over him there any

656
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:14,480
Speaker 1: big picture thoughts on this tournament headed in to the

657
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:16,640
Speaker 1: other major here in a couple of weeks. One thing

658
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:20,120
Speaker 1: I took away was, you know, I played lacc one time.

659
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 1: You can spray it a little bit. And Cam Smith,

660
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:26,200
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know if he's known as the

661
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:26,800
Speaker 1: trailers driver.

662
00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:28,360
Speaker 2: He kind of it.

663
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:30,840
Speaker 1: He kind of heat it up, and it's just you

664
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Speaker 1: can get him in that mid twenties.

665
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:35,000
Speaker 2: Because here's the thing, So Bill, no more for me.

666
00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:39,840
Speaker 1: Betting on Xander's finales speech, JT's can't les.

667
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:42,280
Speaker 2: I'm either going Koepka, Rom Scottie.

668
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:45,400
Speaker 1: Even Rory at least showed some signs of life that

669
00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:48,960
Speaker 1: you know, I'd be more inclined to do that. He's

670
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:51,880
Speaker 1: the only other guy I'm not messing around with these

671
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:54,920
Speaker 1: our group in the Ryder Cup. I'm sorry, prove something

672
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:58,200
Speaker 1: before I give you any shackles moving forward, because these

673
00:32:58,240 --> 00:32:59,760
Speaker 1: guys I look up, it's.

674
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:04,280
Speaker 2: Like they're nowhere to be found. Nowhere, Miss Smiley.

675
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:07,880
Speaker 3: Is a very legitimate takeaway that not just from this week,

676
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 3: but from the last couple of years, that look, they're

677
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:14,640
Speaker 3: guys that got it at as h Nicholas Colsart's once

678
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:16,880
Speaker 3: set at the Ryder Cup, you've either got it in

679
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:18,880
Speaker 3: your pants or you don't, and sometimes you gotta go

680
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 3: with what's in your pants? I'm still not totally sure

681
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:24,400
Speaker 3: what that means, but I love the fact that he

682
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:28,000
Speaker 3: said it on international TV after a Ryder Cup victory.

683
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 3: And so look, they're guys that either have it or

684
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:33,960
Speaker 3: they don't, and we can watch Patrick Cantley every single

685
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:38,000
Speaker 3: week and go that dude is really freaking good. Xander

686
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 3: Schoffley has played really well at major championships, hasn't broken through.

687
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:45,480
Speaker 3: I still think he's going to Max Homa. Sam Burns

688
00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:49,280
Speaker 3: don't play well at major championships, they just haven't. Then

689
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 3: they're guys. Scottie Scheffler plays well every single week, like

690
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:56,720
Speaker 3: his floor is higher than anybody else's right now, not

691
00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:59,520
Speaker 3: even close. Step on throats. John Rawn wants to step

692
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:02,360
Speaker 3: on throats, give me the throat steppers. I still think

693
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:05,000
Speaker 3: he's not playing great. I mentioned him justin Thomas wants

694
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:07,680
Speaker 3: to step on throats. He's not playing very well right now.

695
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:09,480
Speaker 3: He needs to go eat a pizza once in a

696
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:14,040
Speaker 3: while because I think the no gluten thing is deteriorating

697
00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 3: his mind and he's just pissed off all the time.

698
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:17,160
Speaker 2: But he needs to go.

699
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:20,239
Speaker 3: Out and and start playing some better golf. But he

700
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:22,640
Speaker 3: will he's got the right mentality for it. There are

701
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:24,719
Speaker 3: other guys who are just I don't know. Yeah, I'm

702
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:27,640
Speaker 3: really good golfer. It see what happens? You know. I

703
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:30,920
Speaker 3: think being around these players and speaking with them, you

704
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:33,880
Speaker 3: get a better sense of like, all right, he's really good,

705
00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:37,200
Speaker 3: but he's just a stone cold killer. And then there

706
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:39,919
Speaker 3: are other guys he's really good. It's like, uh, see

707
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:42,040
Speaker 3: what happens this week. I really hope that I play well.

708
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:44,520
Speaker 3: Like that ain't the attitude you got to have in

709
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 3: a major championship. And so you mentioned Cam Smith. Absolutely

710
00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:51,279
Speaker 3: love him for the US Open. What's the hallmark of

711
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:54,120
Speaker 3: a US Open that we've seen over the last decade.

712
00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 3: It's ay, well, it's short game. It's hey, everybody's gonna

713
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:02,160
Speaker 3: miss the fair way. So we need guys that can

714
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:04,720
Speaker 3: mash it out of the rough, and we need guys

715
00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:06,720
Speaker 3: that have a great short game and can make putts.

716
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 3: At least the second part of that is Cam Smith.

717
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:12,000
Speaker 3: I love Tony. Tony Faw has been on my radar

718
00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:15,680
Speaker 3: for the US Open for a long time. I don't know.

719
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:20,400
Speaker 3: Is Tony Fenow soft I don't think so, But boy,

720
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:23,160
Speaker 3: big events certainly doesn't seem to happen for a guy

721
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:24,839
Speaker 3: who looks like he's got top five in the world

722
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:27,760
Speaker 3: type talent. So I don't know, it's the same names

723
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 3: every single week and until we don't see those names

724
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:33,759
Speaker 3: up there, and Jordan Spieth another name who you know,

725
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 3: that dude ain't soft, That dude was hurt. He played better,

726
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:39,400
Speaker 3: scored better every single round. Love him this week at

727
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:42,719
Speaker 3: Colonial Jordan's Speed's gonna win something very very soon, if

728
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:44,799
Speaker 3: not this week. I mean they're guys who have it

729
00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:47,640
Speaker 3: at the big events and guys who they're just showing

730
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:50,440
Speaker 3: us time after time they don't really have it.

731
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Speaker 1: Go get you out of here on this just because

732
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:56,440
Speaker 1: you know. He was one of the more fascinating guys

733
00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:58,319
Speaker 1: over the last couple of years. Then he fell off

734
00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:01,120
Speaker 1: the face of the earth, Skinny Bryson. I mean, do

735
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:04,879
Speaker 1: you expect you you were around out there?

736
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 2: What was the talk?

737
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:09,359
Speaker 1: He a breakthrough? Just a good course setup. I mean

738
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:13,440
Speaker 1: you expect him to be He's played lacc before. Obviously

739
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:15,960
Speaker 1: being a California guy, he's comfortable with the with the

740
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:20,040
Speaker 1: grass sod. Is Bryson just shot signs of life or

741
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:21,759
Speaker 1: is this something to keep an eye on because he's

742
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 1: another guy that you know has had a lot of

743
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:26,760
Speaker 1: success in the biggest moments on the right setup.

744
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:29,480
Speaker 3: So look, Okill was a I thought more of a

745
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:32,399
Speaker 3: US Open type of setup than a PGA Championship type

746
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:35,719
Speaker 3: of setup. In quick sidebar, I wouldn't be surprised. I

747
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:38,719
Speaker 3: think Okill proved itself. The new redesign was great. I

748
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:42,239
Speaker 3: wouldn't be surprised if at some point the USGA goes

749
00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:45,200
Speaker 3: to the PGA of Americans, like, come on, like, it's

750
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 3: gonna be better in June than it is in May.

751
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:50,000
Speaker 3: Looks more like a US Open setup than a PGA

752
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:52,359
Speaker 3: Championship setup. Why don't you let us have that one.

753
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:54,719
Speaker 3: We'll give you. I think Olympic Club is now going

754
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:57,600
Speaker 3: into the PGA rotation. All right, we'll give you Olympic Club.

755
00:36:57,640 --> 00:36:59,880
Speaker 3: You give us o Kill. I would not be surprised

756
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:03,399
Speaker 3: next time we see Oakill and a major championship, it's

757
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 3: hosting a US Open, not a PGA. So that's the

758
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:08,400
Speaker 3: aside there, But the fact that it played like a

759
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:12,520
Speaker 3: US Open. It was suited more for Bryson to Shambeau

760
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:14,759
Speaker 3: than a lot of other golf tournaments are. I would

761
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:17,360
Speaker 3: expect a LACC to be very much the same. So

762
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 3: for me, it's about course fit. For Bryson, I think

763
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:22,640
Speaker 3: that on any given week, you put him on a

764
00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:26,919
Speaker 3: place where hey, can you mash driver and just play

765
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:29,560
Speaker 3: some angles and everyone else is gonna be in the rough.

766
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:31,640
Speaker 3: So being in the rough's not gonna hurt you in

767
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:34,880
Speaker 3: relation to the field as much as other events where

768
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:38,319
Speaker 3: other guys are hitting twelve of fourteen fairways, you're hitting

769
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:40,960
Speaker 3: four of fourteen fairways, you're behind the eight ball. If

770
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 3: everyone's hitting four of fourteen fairways, well, Rison's got a

771
00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:47,759
Speaker 3: better shot of getting the ball to the hole more

772
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:49,600
Speaker 3: so than a lot of other players. And so I

773
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:51,359
Speaker 3: think we're gonna see that next month. So I do

774
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:53,399
Speaker 3: like him a little bit there. But now then we're

775
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:56,400
Speaker 3: gonna go to an Open Championship at Royal Liverpool, and

776
00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:58,200
Speaker 3: I don't think he'll see his name anywhere. I mean,

777
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:00,799
Speaker 3: I wouldn't expect that he's up there at all. So

778
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:02,560
Speaker 3: it's all cool fit for Bryson.

779
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:06,400
Speaker 1: So do you think you're gonna pivot on your LACC

780
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:09,160
Speaker 1: pick and go with one of the horses over Fino baby?

781
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:13,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, for a while.

782
00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:18,320
Speaker 1: Look after because even even Rom, like obviously Rom was

783
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:21,719
Speaker 1: getting going viral for his f bombs. Used to I

784
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:23,040
Speaker 1: just used to be like, well he's got a big

785
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:25,600
Speaker 1: temper to me. Now his standards so high. He's showing up,

786
00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:27,560
Speaker 1: like you said, the mind, He's showing up to win,

787
00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:30,279
Speaker 1: and when it's off, he's extra mad because like his

788
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:32,879
Speaker 1: mentality is like I'm winning two or three majors this year,

789
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:34,879
Speaker 1: less of what it was a couple of years ago,

790
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:38,040
Speaker 1: just being a hothead after in my opinion, that.

791
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:40,040
Speaker 3: Was my guy after he won a tory. You want

792
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:43,520
Speaker 3: toy right, everyone there, like the entire world. I mean

793
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:46,160
Speaker 3: I follow a lot of people who are betting experts

794
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:49,520
Speaker 3: on social media, and like the entire world started betting home.

795
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:52,239
Speaker 3: I mean his number was likely I did it. I

796
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:55,719
Speaker 3: mean I don't dislike him. Max Ohma is still best

797
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:58,799
Speaker 3: major finish is a thirteenth place in the PGA Championship

798
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:01,760
Speaker 3: last year. I don't dislike him for the US Open,

799
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 3: But I mean at some point, I think everyone sort

800
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:07,240
Speaker 3: of pivots and they go I think there's that separation

801
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:09,279
Speaker 3: like we're just talking about. I know, look, a lot

802
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:11,840
Speaker 3: of people like can't lays an LA guy going back home.

803
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:15,960
Speaker 3: You might like Morikawa another LA guy, and Marikawa has

804
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:18,600
Speaker 3: shown the stuff that can win major championships if his

805
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:21,439
Speaker 3: putter was right, and his putter was right this past week.

806
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:26,600
Speaker 3: But watching cam Smith, I'm like, man, this dude's not

807
00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:29,160
Speaker 3: And there's something to be said for the live players.

808
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:32,279
Speaker 3: And we talked about Kopka peaking four times a year. Look,

809
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:35,800
Speaker 3: all the PGA Tour guys, they're playing designated events, elevated

810
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:39,080
Speaker 3: events seemingly on an every other week kind of basis.

811
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 3: They're playing big events all the time. The live guys, hey, yeah,

812
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:45,080
Speaker 3: they want to go out and win some live events.

813
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:48,239
Speaker 3: But four times a year, it's like, all right, let's go,

814
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:52,040
Speaker 3: this is my week. I mean, John Rahm really wants

815
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:54,400
Speaker 3: to play well the major championships. He's also got what

816
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 3: eight other events, nine other events where he really wants

817
00:39:57,640 --> 00:39:59,759
Speaker 3: to play well against the best players on the PGA Tour.

818
00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:02,640
Speaker 3: The if guys only have four of those, and so

819
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:05,880
Speaker 3: for Keopka, for Cam Smith, it's easier to peak on

820
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:07,960
Speaker 3: one of those weeks when you only have four of them.

821
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 3: Is supposed to having double digits.

822
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:13,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think with the big three, Scottie Rahm, Rory

823
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:17,200
Speaker 1: Night through Kopka, I would put camp Smith right up

824
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 1: there to go headed into the to LACC. That would

825
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:22,319
Speaker 1: be kind of my group of players because I give

826
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:24,279
Speaker 1: Rory some credit. He showed signs of life. Still a

827
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:27,239
Speaker 1: little off, but he I thought he battled more than

828
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:28,920
Speaker 1: historically he has, did not.

829
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Speaker 3: Have his best stuff and he finished well. A lot

830
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 3: of times. Look, Rory didn't have his best stuff in

831
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:35,239
Speaker 3: the Masters, missed the cut. I love the fact that

832
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:38,240
Speaker 3: Rory didn't have his best stuff and finished in seventh place.

833
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:40,920
Speaker 3: That's a good sign. I think moving forward, I'd like

834
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:42,600
Speaker 3: to see him with his best stuff at some point,

835
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:45,840
Speaker 3: but at least that's a step in the right direction

836
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:47,759
Speaker 3: for him.

837
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:51,799
Speaker 1: Agreed, Well, soble uh have a good Memorial Day weekend.

838
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:52,200
Speaker 2: Play golf.

839
00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:54,520
Speaker 3: He's got one last thing for you too. Shout out

840
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:56,560
Speaker 3: to Hunter Mayhan. I was hanging out with Hunter Mayhan,

841
00:40:56,560 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 3: who was doing analysis for our series XM Radio Cut

842
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:02,560
Speaker 3: this past week, and one play goes, dude, you know

843
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:05,239
Speaker 3: John Middlecoff. It's like that's so cool. It's like, yeah,

844
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:08,040
Speaker 3: what a great guys like that. So you've got it.

845
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:10,000
Speaker 3: You've got a massive fan in Hunter Man.

846
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:13,480
Speaker 1: I remember playing golf a couple of years ago with

847
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:15,200
Speaker 1: Spencer Levine and I was like you know, we were

848
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:17,920
Speaker 1: talking about the PGA tories. Like I always thought if

849
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:20,800
Speaker 1: I beat Hunter in a tournament, I had some success.

850
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:23,880
Speaker 2: Like Hunter can play. Yeah, I mean that dude was

851
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:25,360
Speaker 2: that dude's still could.

852
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:27,759
Speaker 3: Play, but the taste now doing some radio, which is

853
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:28,919
Speaker 3: which is pretty cool for him.

854
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:30,759
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, I heard him doing last year. He was

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Speaker 1: doing some college events. He's he's gonna be good. He'd

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Speaker 1: be a.

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Speaker 2: Good transition for him.

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Speaker 1: Uh So, we'll talk to you soon, man, Thanks, Buddy,

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Speaker 1: appreciated that.

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Speaker 3: A good weekend.