Speaker 1: What's up, family, I'm your girl to make a d.
Speaker 1: Mallory and it's your boy, my sell in the general
Speaker 1: and we are the host of street politicians, the place
Speaker 1: where the streets and politics meet. How feeling it's a
Speaker 1: good day, good day, I mean, you know, good day,
Speaker 1: nervy time, nervy time that's happening. To be very careful
Speaker 1: to protect our energy and to know that it is um,
Speaker 1: it's not. It's not our faults, nothing wrong with black people.
Speaker 1: That there's something wrong with the world and the way
Speaker 1: it treats us. And we have to protect our energy
Speaker 1: and not allow ourselves to go into a complete depression
Speaker 1: because we could. Yeah, you're right. We were already dealing
Speaker 1: with the Derek Chauvin case for the murder of George Floyd,
Speaker 1: and now we have to see a young another young
Speaker 1: boy murdered at the hands of police for a traffic like.
Speaker 1: I don't understand. How do we constantly find ourselves in
Speaker 1: the same situation where officers have excuses and reasons and
Speaker 1: all type of things for why they kill people unarmed
Speaker 1: Black people, unarmed like it's the same situation. I posted
Speaker 1: something on my Instagram the other day where it showed
Speaker 1: how armed white people are arrested. You know, some of
Speaker 1: them are threats, they've murdered people, they've done all type
Speaker 1: of things, but they're actually arrested. They have due process,
Speaker 1: you know, they actually go to court and you know,
Speaker 1: and go through the whole process. But unarmed black people
Speaker 1: never even make it to a chorouse, they never make
Speaker 1: it to a sale to even be trying, like and
Speaker 1: it's just crazy, man, It's a lot too many, too
Speaker 1: many cases. And you know, Dante right just looking at
Speaker 1: I wrote on my page that when I was looking
Speaker 1: at the picture that began circulating of him and his baby,
Speaker 1: it hurt to see him and to know that he
Speaker 1: was killed. I was even more traumatized by looking at
Speaker 1: that little baby, knowing that if we don't get this
Speaker 1: thing right, he could be he could fall victim to
Speaker 1: the same exact type of situation. And the world itself
Speaker 1: is just it's just so cold. Our children and what
Speaker 1: they are experiencing and what we are all experiencing. It's
Speaker 1: too much trauma. There were too many black women who
Speaker 1: have black boys who text me after Dante Wright was
Speaker 1: shot and killed, murdered, as you said and said to me,
Speaker 1: I'm terrified. I'm terrified. I'm terrified for my sons. I'm
Speaker 1: terrified for my husband. I'm terrified, Like I'm living in
Speaker 1: a literal state of terror. And that's the thing that
Speaker 1: I have. I have to be really careful because I'm
Speaker 1: already consumed. Every time my child moves, I'm like, where
Speaker 1: did you go, where you at, what you're doing, who
Speaker 1: you talk? Did you wear this? They don't do this,
Speaker 1: don't wear that. Those earphones in your ears, and where
Speaker 1: you can't hear when you're walking down the street in
Speaker 1: case they tell you to freeze or whatever. I'm already
Speaker 1: putting him through all of that, and now I'm he
Speaker 1: wants to I'm scared to let him drive. I mean,
Speaker 1: he can drive, and he drives well, but I'm afraid
Speaker 1: it's too many and and and I think there are
Speaker 1: so many white folks who are now starting to say
Speaker 1: I just don't have these same fears and they and
Speaker 1: they don't because their reality is different. So when we
Speaker 1: look at these cases and we constantly see the same
Speaker 1: thing in the same response, you know, they are actually
Speaker 1: people who say, well, he had a warrant, you know,
Speaker 1: he had a he had a warrant. He he tried
Speaker 1: to run from the police, and and those things are
Speaker 1: things that you get arrested for, you know, those are
Speaker 1: things that you get arrested for. Somebody issues a warrant,
Speaker 1: you go to arrest, you have your dad court, you
Speaker 1: prove whether you're in it's a guilty, you go through
Speaker 1: the due process. But a warrant is not a warrant
Speaker 1: to be killed. You know, there's no warrant that you
Speaker 1: can issue a person that that commands and demand is
Speaker 1: going to be killed. And we and we are constantly
Speaker 1: issue death ones, you know, we are constantly issued as
Speaker 1: a black man, death warrants and sentence. Because this was
Speaker 1: a death warrant, like a warrant that was issued ended
Speaker 1: up in this man being killed, you know, literally killed.
Speaker 1: It's way too much as a black man, you know,
Speaker 1: having like you said, having conversations with other young black
Speaker 1: man trying to make them understand. But we get to
Speaker 1: a point where it comes fed up. I was actually
Speaker 1: watching the news where the police tried to pull somebody
Speaker 1: over and the guy just had a gun shooting and
Speaker 1: these things, like you at some point, right at some point,
Speaker 1: it was a black man. He was he pulled up
Speaker 1: on him and he had a shotgun. I don't even
Speaker 1: know what it was, but I was like you, at
Speaker 1: some point, what do you expect people to do it.
Speaker 1: I'm not calling for violence, and we're definitely not saying that,
Speaker 1: but I'm just trying to say, you cannot continue to
Speaker 1: kill people and expect them to just wait for you
Speaker 1: to kill him. You can't. We can't constantly keep seeing
Speaker 1: these images of us being pulled over for routine check,
Speaker 1: you know, traffic violations or traffic stops, and dying and
Speaker 1: expect you to keep pulling us over. You know, we
Speaker 1: got and then not even that, you got the guy
Speaker 1: that was in the army, the yeah, the serviceman, the
Speaker 1: serviceman like you, you sit there and you see that,
Speaker 1: and he did. I found out today that he's the
Speaker 1: nephew of Eric Gana's mother. So miss Carr, that's her nephew.
Speaker 1: And she she told the story on on a CNN interview.
Speaker 1: She said that her her niece sent her the video,
Speaker 1: and she said, people send her these horrible videos all
Speaker 1: the time and she doesn't really like to watch them,
Speaker 1: but this particular day she looked at the video and
Speaker 1: just saw this horror, horrifying event occur, and she was like,
Speaker 1: this is terrible and kind of went on about her life.
Speaker 1: What she didn't know was that that was her own
Speaker 1: family member. And then she said that, you know, that
Speaker 1: happened in December of two thousand twenties, so this happened
Speaker 1: last year, at the end of last year. So she's
Speaker 1: saying that she saw him February of this year at
Speaker 1: a funeral for another family member, I think the un goal,
Speaker 1: and she said he was very different, very quiet. You know,
Speaker 1: you could tell that he has suffered extreme trauma. It actually,
Speaker 1: obviously it changes your life. Look at what a he
Speaker 1: went through. I mean, it's just like you said, it's
Speaker 1: way too much and at some point something has to happen.
Speaker 1: And I don't know what that is, but I know
Speaker 1: that when I when when I first got on social media,
Speaker 1: it was almost unheard of to hear people saying that
Speaker 1: that it was time to shoot back or you know,
Speaker 1: or kill cops and crazy stuff like that. Like it was,
Speaker 1: it was it was almost unheard of to hear that.
Speaker 1: But now as time is going on and this years later,
Speaker 1: since I've been on socials, there's so much more of
Speaker 1: this of that what is now what I considered to
Speaker 1: be mental illness, because you know, the trauma is making
Speaker 1: people sick. Yes, it's PTSD is really watching something happened
Speaker 1: and fearing that it could be you, you know, and
Speaker 1: and that's what the human human nature of self reservation,
Speaker 1: you know. And when you think that you're just going
Speaker 1: to continue to kill people and continue to take their lives,
Speaker 1: whether you say it's an accident or whatever, you know,
Speaker 1: at some point it doesn't matter. You know, you know,
Speaker 1: the road to hell was paying with good intention. So
Speaker 1: that doesn't that doesn't don't tell us that because we
Speaker 1: don't care about We just want to live. The bottom
Speaker 1: line is we're trying to live. And you know, and
Speaker 1: and and somebody and I tell people all the time,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna sit there. I'm not gonna sit there.
Speaker 1: I've seen Dr Cornell West he was doing an interview
Speaker 1: and he was talking about how he could not watch
Speaker 1: what was happening to George Floyd. It's no way he
Speaker 1: would be there to sit there for nine minutes. He says,
Speaker 1: they are black men in this world that are not
Speaker 1: going to watch that. We're gonna have to intervene. We're
Speaker 1: gonna risk all and I'm one of those whitmen, you know.
Speaker 1: So that's another fear. That's another that's another fear because
Speaker 1: I my father, my son, my brothers, they are not
Speaker 1: the type of people that are gonna I mean we
Speaker 1: first of all, we were raised in a revolutionary family.
Speaker 1: So they're not the type of people that are gonna
Speaker 1: stand by and watch. But but you don't want people
Speaker 1: who did stand by and watch to feel bad like
Speaker 1: they like like it's the bottom line is that the
Speaker 1: situation we're being put in is not right. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. It's just not right. You should not
Speaker 1: have to choose between stepping into and a murder in
Speaker 1: progress and getting yourself killed as well, because believe it,
Speaker 1: believe it, those other police officers that were there who
Speaker 1: did nothing to help George Floyd, oh, they would have
Speaker 1: pulled their guns on another person that ran up on
Speaker 1: them and those and those individuals could have been killed
Speaker 1: as well. And it's like, what what exactly do we do?
Speaker 1: And and it brings me to my thought of the day,
Speaker 1: because you know, now I'm just like thinking and in
Speaker 1: a lot of ways, I feel paralyzed, you know, and
Speaker 1: I haven't really been talking to you guys about it.
Speaker 1: What I've been dealing in my own mind with feeling
Speaker 1: paralyzed because I'm tired of doing the same thing over
Speaker 1: and over again and getting no results. Like I'm tired
Speaker 1: of it, you know what I mean. And I have
Speaker 1: conversations with the mothers of the movement, and I see
Speaker 1: the pain like the every time the Dante right happens,
Speaker 1: every time they run that video back in the courtroom,
Speaker 1: even if the mothers are in watching that day. You know,
Speaker 1: your socials, your family members, they're gonna mention, oh my god,
Speaker 1: we have to watch it again today. Do you know
Speaker 1: what they go through? The fathers, the fare. I can't
Speaker 1: imagine what Tracy Martin, right, Trayvon Martin's father, knowing that
Speaker 1: his son was visiting with him, this happened in his
Speaker 1: community on his watch. You know, his son was murdered
Speaker 1: by somebody that I'm sure he feels like if he
Speaker 1: had known that this was going on outside, he would
Speaker 1: have gone out there and saved his son. And he wasn't.
Speaker 1: He wasn't allowed to do that. I mean, you've got
Speaker 1: so many fathers. You've got Mike Brown, you have Oscar
Speaker 1: Oscar Grant's uncle, uncle Bobby. There's father's mother's sisters. You
Speaker 1: look at Dante Wright's family, his aunt, his hont is
Speaker 1: out there screaming out like, how did this happen to
Speaker 1: my nephew? She had to pick up her mother on
Speaker 1: like a twelve hour drive from Alabama to Minnesota to
Speaker 1: go pick up the boy's grandmother. Like this is some serious,
Speaker 1: serious ship it is. It's really it's really dramatic, traumatic, drastic.
Speaker 1: You know, I was watching oh Man, the young lady.
Speaker 1: She was in the middle of the street screaming and crying.
Speaker 1: Look what they did to my brother. He didn't deserve this,
Speaker 1: you know. And we just a family, and there's a
Speaker 1: baby that doesn't even know what's going on. It's just
Speaker 1: a lot. But anyway, my thought of the day as
Speaker 1: I'm you know, we're all on the edge of our seats.
Speaker 1: Just so people know, we are taping this episode today.
Speaker 1: And therefore, uh, the George Floyd, the verdict for the
Speaker 1: officer who killed George Floyd, the ex officer who killed
Speaker 1: George Floyd. It has not been released yet, um, but
Speaker 1: by the time this airs it may so we will
Speaker 1: have to come back and talk about that and update
Speaker 1: folks at that time, Um, and what I was really
Speaker 1: thinking about, it's like, doesn't make sense to even have
Speaker 1: a trial if what we know, because I was listening
Speaker 1: to them today, the the prosecution rested, the defense has rested,
Speaker 1: so now it's about to go into close and arguments,
Speaker 1: and I'm sitting there listening to them saying it only
Speaker 1: takes one juror to stop a conviction to throw the
Speaker 1: whole situation. I know, it's like, that's funny, that's that's
Speaker 1: actually very interesting because even if there's well, well, I mean,
Speaker 1: there have been situations which have been hail Mary's right.
Speaker 1: But I know for sure from being in jury duty
Speaker 1: and also having family members and friends who go to
Speaker 1: jury duty, that they that jurors feel extremely pressured, extremely
Speaker 1: pressured too. Like, so if there's one juror that's holding out,
Speaker 1: that juror gets a lot of pressure and a lot
Speaker 1: of talking to and a lot of convincing and working
Speaker 1: on that juror to join the rest of the group
Speaker 1: to convey they do. I mean, people, that's where it works, right,
Speaker 1: But I bet you in this situation, if there's one
Speaker 1: juror who wants to hold out, I bet you it's
Speaker 1: gonna be it won't be due process if we, you know,
Speaker 1: put too much pressure on that person or make them
Speaker 1: feel like their decision is being you know, changed based
Speaker 1: upon the opinion of whoever the court, the prosecut or,
Speaker 1: whoever it is the judge. I think for me, if you,
Speaker 1: if you've been watching this trial right in there is
Speaker 1: a doubt that that I'm George Floyd's life was taken
Speaker 1: by anything other than this man putting his foot on
Speaker 1: his name. If you've seen something his knee, his knee,
Speaker 1: whatever it is. If you watch this trial over and over,
Speaker 1: watching that video, hearing those people say hey, stop, stop,
Speaker 1: you're killing this man, watching this man have no remorse,
Speaker 1: no empathy, no sympathy, not move from the same spot,
Speaker 1: and continuing as a man played for us life. If
Speaker 1: you watch this trial where they showed where everyone over
Speaker 1: and over said that this man would have been alive
Speaker 1: had this foot not been on his neck, I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't think I think that is the overwhelming consensus.
Speaker 1: If you can watch that and come back and say
Speaker 1: that this man is not guilty of killing this man,
Speaker 1: then I don't. I don't know where we go with
Speaker 1: justice in them. I don't know. I don't even know
Speaker 1: what we do. It's not about. But that's the thing, right,
Speaker 1: So so right now, I think the makeup of the
Speaker 1: jury is eight white folks and four people of color
Speaker 1: and probably five five because I think you have to
Speaker 1: have alternate or whatever. But I don't know for sure.
Speaker 1: I know there's twelve people for show, and eight of
Speaker 1: them are definitely white. Um. Now, first of all, the
Speaker 1: assumption that people of color are going to side or
Speaker 1: be on the right side of justice and the right
Speaker 1: side of history is not always an assumption that should
Speaker 1: be made. Because we've seen black folks walk into the
Speaker 1: room and say, I'm not gonna I'm I'm not black,
Speaker 1: I'm you know, I'm American, I'm I'm fourth, i'mb human. Right,
Speaker 1: We've seen that. So you can't be too sure that
Speaker 1: just because there are a few black, you know, black,
Speaker 1: black and brown people on the jury, that they are
Speaker 1: going to just go along with what we know is right.
Speaker 1: We're not asking you to go in and do anything illegal.
Speaker 1: We're not asking you to lie. We're not asking you
Speaker 1: to choose the movement, uh to feel sorry for George Floyd.
Speaker 1: We're talk about the law, the facts, and what you
Speaker 1: see happening in front of your eyes. Right, But and
Speaker 1: and and and and and there may be many white
Speaker 1: people who actually side with our community because we've seen
Speaker 1: that that somebody was telling the story the other day. Yeah,
Speaker 1: somebody was telling me this a story the other day
Speaker 1: of how a white man a white woman lied on
Speaker 1: him and the white husband approached a man in the store.
Speaker 1: It was something to do with a mask or whatever,
Speaker 1: and the white husband approached him and it was another
Speaker 1: white man that got involved and told the husband, hey,
Speaker 1: your wife is lying. So I you know, I can't
Speaker 1: sit here and say that all the white people are
Speaker 1: going to be wrong. We don't know what's gonna happen,
Speaker 1: but it takes one person. And the thing about what
Speaker 1: you're saying that if you could watch that trial and
Speaker 1: go against justice, not against George Floyd, against justice, If
Speaker 1: you could do that, it's something wrong with you. But
Speaker 1: the issue is they could be watching it and no
Speaker 1: damn well that what they see is actually unjustified and
Speaker 1: go along with what they believe is their duty to
Speaker 1: whomever it is that they serve and the people that
Speaker 1: they serve, or the whatever they serve. It is not
Speaker 1: us it's not our communities, it's not black men, it's
Speaker 1: not it's none of that. Right, White supremacy is alive
Speaker 1: and well. And it's very possible that one person on
Speaker 1: that jury will say I just can't do it, like
Speaker 1: they got people to come in in and lie on
Speaker 1: the stand, and you know, in terms of of of
Speaker 1: witnesses or whatever experts that try to lie and say
Speaker 1: stuff about carbon monoxide and and it wasn't his knee
Speaker 1: wasn't really on the neck and all of this craziness.
Speaker 1: So if those people were willing to do that, then
Speaker 1: why is it that a German? You know? And I
Speaker 1: don't want to think negatively, must that's not the thing
Speaker 1: with something I'm trying to do. So I don't want
Speaker 1: people to feel like why I'm my bringing negative energy
Speaker 1: to this situation. I'm just bringing reality because we see
Speaker 1: it happen all the time. And when I heard them today,
Speaker 1: they kept saying, it's almost like the media gets you
Speaker 1: prepared for what they know is coming. And I and
Speaker 1: I was specifically watching Fox News because you know that's
Speaker 1: something I do, and everybody ask me, why do you
Speaker 1: do that to yourself? I have to watch Fox News
Speaker 1: because That's where I learned the lies. I see when
Speaker 1: all of a sudden they put my face up and
Speaker 1: they start talking about terrorism. In the same segment, in
Speaker 1: the same segment with stories about me, Linda's star sore
Speaker 1: portreats colors of Black Lives Matter, Sean King like they
Speaker 1: will put us on Fox News, And in the same
Speaker 1: same segment, somehow terrorism and and and how BLM or
Speaker 1: Black Lives Matter as a movement, not the organization is
Speaker 1: you know, it's a terrorist or terrorist group. They say
Speaker 1: the craziest things about us. So I watch Fox News
Speaker 1: to keep up with what the opposition is saying and
Speaker 1: how they're positioning them cells. And by the way, they
Speaker 1: are using their media to organize, to organize an arsenal,
Speaker 1: a movement of people who are against us. And I
Speaker 1: noticed today they kept saying it only takes one it
Speaker 1: only takes one jury only. What does that mean? It
Speaker 1: means exactly what they said, It only takes one juror,
Speaker 1: you know, to funk it up, you know, And that's
Speaker 1: just the reality. And that's what that's what our justice
Speaker 1: system has and that's why we've been failed. Because the
Speaker 1: one j when you when you're in the minority. You know,
Speaker 1: when you look at the reality of what America is
Speaker 1: based on and built on, and how the value of
Speaker 1: black life, like we have to say black lives matter,
Speaker 1: because the value of black life has not mattered to
Speaker 1: the to the majority of this country since its inception.
Speaker 1: So that's what we face with we they understand that
Speaker 1: all we need is one person to understands that white
Speaker 1: supremacy has to continue to go on to be on
Speaker 1: that jury and say, look, I don't given what happened,
Speaker 1: he ain't guilty. You know, the same way that you
Speaker 1: was having a conversation right about what we were talking
Speaker 1: about jury duty. And that's why black people, please, you
Speaker 1: got to go to jerry duty. You got stuff to do.
Speaker 1: You don't want to sit there. But black people need you.
Speaker 1: Black people need you, man, because if you don't understand
Speaker 1: what they if you understand what they're facing, you know
Speaker 1: you might need them one day. Wow, that's deep. No,
Speaker 1: for real, Like as many times as we have figured
Speaker 1: out ways to circumvent going to jury duty, you don't
Speaker 1: have to go to jury duty because I don't know
Speaker 1: because I have a feeling, but I remember being called
Speaker 1: to jerry duty for years and I'm not doing And
Speaker 1: when I sat there and I watched, because you get
Speaker 1: to see them pick the jury, and they asked them
Speaker 1: certain questions and it was people that was like, yo,
Speaker 1: I just I know him, I've seen him with anything.
Speaker 1: I see him before. Here a good dude. I ain't
Speaker 1: gonna send him to Jim And okay you dismissed. I'd
Speaker 1: be like, why do you have to say that, man,
Speaker 1: I need you. What was your experience? My experience for
Speaker 1: Jerry was it was it was. It was the worst
Speaker 1: experience I ever had watching my jurry get picked. It
Speaker 1: was probably about five white people, three blacks and two
Speaker 1: like three Hispanics to its Latinos my fault and in
Speaker 1: the way they positioned, and I was just and I
Speaker 1: watched how they they try to set it up. It's
Speaker 1: like a battle, right, and they pick two people who
Speaker 1: are strong willed in both different directions. You got one
Speaker 1: person is that you could tell way more conservative, and
Speaker 1: they're not from your community, and they don't really care,
Speaker 1: and you could tell if they're looking at you in
Speaker 1: a certain way. Then you've got one person and said,
Speaker 1: I'm from the community and I think I could be
Speaker 1: feeling this trial and this and that, and it seems
Speaker 1: like they kind of for you. So they set it
Speaker 1: up to where there's this battle with both of them,
Speaker 1: and then everybody else is kind of like a supporting cast.
Speaker 1: They just fit in here and there and they can
Speaker 1: be swayed. So they know exactly what they doing, and
Speaker 1: you don't. You don't get it. You just watch them.
Speaker 1: You don't know what. You don't know what. We have
Speaker 1: to go to jury dude, we have to. We have
Speaker 1: to go to It's so important. If it's nothing else
Speaker 1: that you take from this conversation today and from the
Speaker 1: George Floyd case and so many cases, is that we
Speaker 1: have to be the spooks that sat by the door,
Speaker 1: the watchman for our community. Um, we've got to go
Speaker 1: to jury duty and make sure that and not I'm
Speaker 1: not saying go to jury duty and do anything illegal
Speaker 1: or wrong. I'm saying that too many of our people
Speaker 1: are being wrongfully convicted because we're unlawfully treated and unprotected
Speaker 1: and we need you and need to bring your perspective
Speaker 1: and your understanding of the culture. That So when they're
Speaker 1: having these conversations, they said, oh, he had to do
Speaker 1: this because I've done this before and I ain't do
Speaker 1: none of that, So why does that make them guilty?
Speaker 1: When you when you're having a conversation with a novice
Speaker 1: about our culture, about our communities, about how we think,
Speaker 1: how we move things that even go on our communities
Speaker 1: and in our neighborhoods, and then they tell you that
Speaker 1: these things that they talk about symbolized crime to symbolize violence.
Speaker 1: And then they'd be like, wow, that does symbolize but
Speaker 1: you don't. When you come from that, you're like, well,
Speaker 1: I did all of those things and it wasn't violence,
Speaker 1: but it didn't mean it wasn't like, yeah, it wasn't
Speaker 1: about that. You have a different perspective that you have
Speaker 1: to be able to bring into this justice system, into
Speaker 1: these courtrooms and onto these juries so that you can
Speaker 1: make sure that we're actually getting a fair shot. Absolutely, absolutely,
Speaker 1: I mean that's the real that's the thought of the day.
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Speaker 1: what do we need to do and is you know,
Speaker 1: there was a there was a Huffington Post then that
Speaker 1: you did like in and you talked about there were
Speaker 1: things that our communities were lacking, you know, access education,
Speaker 1: and I forgot the third thing. The third thing was
Speaker 1: that I think, um that that we had too many
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Speaker 1: We're lacking there right their food deserts in our communities.
Speaker 1: We don't have the things we need, but we have
Speaker 1: liquor stores. We had to have all the unhealthy things.
Speaker 1: Do you still feel like that's the same problem or
Speaker 1: you feel like we're doing better because so it's been
Speaker 1: what six years now, Well, well it's it's a slow crawl,
Speaker 1: you know, it's a slow qualm with there's definitely some
Speaker 1: change and improvement. But you know, the more awareness is
Speaker 1: the more improvement and the more changed. So we gotta
Speaker 1: keep working, you know, but there definitely is changed. But
Speaker 1: the real problem is just comes down to the demographics again.
Speaker 1: You know, even in even with the supermarkets or what's
Speaker 1: available there. It's just not quick quality. You know, it's
Speaker 1: not if anything that's it's it's nutritious. So that's the issue.
Speaker 1: It's just changing the entire game and making sure that
Speaker 1: we are thriving in our communities with the right produce
Speaker 1: and the right nutrition so that you know, we can
Speaker 1: elevate ourselves, you know, to be the best that we
Speaker 1: can be because we're so displaced. So the food is
Speaker 1: where we start, you know. But there definitely has been change,
Speaker 1: So I will say that it's just you know, it's
Speaker 1: not major enough. There's actually it's been a major change.
Speaker 1: But what it really is is as as brown people,
Speaker 1: you have to realize in the black community, you have
Speaker 1: to realize how long we've been behind the april. Like
Speaker 1: if you if you if you're fortunate enough as a
Speaker 1: black person to have money, do you compare So when
Speaker 1: you live in a you know, an affluent both in
Speaker 1: neighborhood as in contrast to a poor neighborhood, you get
Speaker 1: to see how much behind on the april we are.
Speaker 1: So there there's not enough style families, pharmacy for Life's
Speaker 1: juices for life is not about just us doing it
Speaker 1: it's us as a whole as the people like. Because
Speaker 1: when you if we mentioned fast food and I asked
Speaker 1: you to ramble off fast food names, you're gonna you
Speaker 1: can ramble off at least twenty before you even have
Speaker 1: to slow down, especially in the hood. So we've made
Speaker 1: major change. The information is getting out there, but the
Speaker 1: change we stand full. We do not expect to be
Speaker 1: alive to see to be with you know this day
Speaker 1: have hundreds of years ahead of us. So we're glad
Speaker 1: to see the changes coming. And you know, people are
Speaker 1: picking up. But until we really understand that, um, this
Speaker 1: this war and many different fasts, and is this the
Speaker 1: way we always say, it's not. Everybody offer through the fool,
Speaker 1: through the water, and through the miseducation. So until we
Speaker 1: get a lot further with that, and we have everybody
Speaker 1: on every neighborhood and every poor neighborhood and every ghetto
Speaker 1: blood crip MS thirteen neutral buzz vibers working until everybody's
Speaker 1: on that one. To let me feed my family right
Speaker 1: and let me take care of myself first and foremost
Speaker 1: in my family. You know, we just scratching the surface,
Speaker 1: but we did a lot of scratching on the surface,
Speaker 1: but we got we got a lot more to do.
Speaker 1: You know. You talk about Juices for Life, pharmacy for life,
Speaker 1: you know, and I've known you for years. When the
Speaker 1: first Juices for Life opened in Castle Hill and I
Speaker 1: was there and I was like, oh Castle Hill and listen, yeah,
Speaker 1: I remember like that was the first time. I'm like, okay,
Speaker 1: they got the juice bar because I remember that was
Speaker 1: one of the rough riders things. They used to be
Speaker 1: in Harlem around the juice bars a lot and a
Speaker 1: lot of people. So I used to go down there
Speaker 1: in the Harlem and meeting with a lot of different
Speaker 1: rough riders, So I know that was always the thing
Speaker 1: that you know, there was people were around the juice
Speaker 1: bar when you first opened it. It was like dn
Speaker 1: they actually opened their own. So when did you start
Speaker 1: to make this healthy transition? Like what created it for you? Um?
Speaker 1: My wife, My wife making shot I eat right at
Speaker 1: home and starting to tell me to incorporate, you know,
Speaker 1: because when you're at home at home, I always ate well.
Speaker 1: You know, she's an excellent cook and a health minded cook,
Speaker 1: so I always ate well. But at that time I
Speaker 1: was on the road a lot and doing a lot
Speaker 1: of fast food. So between that and actually getting in
Speaker 1: trouble and realizing that I was somewhere chemically way off.
Speaker 1: I don't know what was happening. I was systemically I'm
Speaker 1: probably just naturally off, but the food wasn't really helping.
Speaker 1: So I started, um, you know, at the time, I
Speaker 1: was actually getting getting into a lot of trouble. I
Speaker 1: had multiple cases. So I tried to eat home and
Speaker 1: eat eat healthy at home, but also spend my time
Speaker 1: when I go outside some more productive black of work
Speaker 1: and still get things done and shout out to my
Speaker 1: partner's UM nine and Leo. You know. Now, I had
Speaker 1: the juice bar at the time and haul them on
Speaker 1: two fives, So I used to go there, used to
Speaker 1: be about me seven other customers, and it just brought
Speaker 1: something between my wife and that juice bar. I brought
Speaker 1: so much change. I lost weight, m my skin, my
Speaker 1: my eggs, and cleared up my post as with drip left,
Speaker 1: my cyanitis left. I stopped carrying around two guns all
Speaker 1: the time, Like like your whole life change. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: you know, so everything changed, and so it kind of
Speaker 1: just a laugh. But but then also it kind of
Speaker 1: hit us. You know, it was a time we started
Speaker 1: moving to better places and being able to see money more.
Speaker 1: We just kind of noticed like what was happening to
Speaker 1: our people in the neighborhoods. And we started like doing
Speaker 1: our own self education on how to heal ourselves, UM
Speaker 1: for family issues, self issues, lady issues, many issues, just
Speaker 1: trying to figure out how we didn't have to just
Speaker 1: go run to the doctor every time, and how we could,
Speaker 1: you know, start incorporating things. And that was pretty much
Speaker 1: her idea of just incorporated things in the household UM
Speaker 1: to take and just you know, to add to our
Speaker 1: nutrients and into our body. So it was kind of
Speaker 1: I was getting it from every angle, to be honest
Speaker 1: with you, and it just I became a sponge as
Speaker 1: you started absorbing and just kind of noticing what was
Speaker 1: going on. So tell us about the two businesses that
Speaker 1: you all have. Now, what are the purpose? What's the
Speaker 1: difference in the two? Okay, well, how ready you was
Speaker 1: for that? Anyway? It's so irritating anyway, So Juice for
Speaker 1: Life in Pharmacy for Life. Juice for Life his first
Speaker 1: and you know now we're on our fifth store. Last
Speaker 1: one was just we just opened on Fordham Road about
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago, So where where are they all?
Speaker 1: Brooklyn three and the Bronx too, and the Bronx three,
Speaker 1: the Bronx sorry one of Yonkers, Yeah, three and the
Speaker 1: Bronx now one in Brooklyn one of Yonkers in our
Speaker 1: online store, Pharmacy for Life serves anywhere, yelways in Kentucky.
Speaker 1: Somebody y'all sent us a bunch of stuff, so we
Speaker 1: wanted to say thank you for that. Oh, you're welcome,
Speaker 1: You're welcome, You're welcome. Yeah, We're always here to support,
Speaker 1: you know. Pharmacy is our sister company where we sell
Speaker 1: you know, supplements. So it's just an extension of the
Speaker 1: brand and trying to just get more again, more products,
Speaker 1: more awareness and as we learned, we pay it forward,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So as we learn and
Speaker 1: things work for us and he'll heal us, we want
Speaker 1: to share the information and helped to heal our culture
Speaker 1: because we really need as money for many healing foods
Speaker 1: and ailments, you know, things to heal our ailments as possible.
Speaker 1: So like I wouldn't take my c moss, I use
Speaker 1: a lot of doctors, Savy prop dr savy products, um,
Speaker 1: the alkaline exactly all the alkaline products. But it's so
Speaker 1: many pills to swallow, so many big pills, and I'm
Speaker 1: not I don't like swallowing pills for various reasons, and
Speaker 1: so I'm trying to figure out what do I do.
Speaker 1: I know people need the sea moss and stuff. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you make you do you like peanut butter? I love
Speaker 1: peanut butter, all right, So if you love peanut butter,
Speaker 1: almond butter, yeah, get you some seymours boil it oatmeal. Yeah,
Speaker 1: throwing in some right in um, peanut butter, oatmeal banana shape,
Speaker 1: and you won't even taste the seas. Right, you didn't
Speaker 1: get all your benefits peanut butter, oat male and banana together. Yeah.
Speaker 1: There's always a way to make sure you're getting what
Speaker 1: you need. You just gotta be a to creative, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean to do it to get it,
Speaker 1: to ingest it, because you know it's super important. So
Speaker 1: you just have to trick yourself to your body a
Speaker 1: little bit. But you're figure it out. But that's an
Speaker 1: absolute way to take it. Is definitely attue your smoothie.
Speaker 1: Um oh, mail is good, yogurt is good. Just capsules,
Speaker 1: you know, just open how many capsules? Does he it's
Speaker 1: six it's six capsules of the sea moss. And then
Speaker 1: I think and then yeah, it's a lot. And and
Speaker 1: so what I did once was trying to open them
Speaker 1: and put it in like juice and drink it, but
Speaker 1: it was chalky, so I couldn't get it down. You know,
Speaker 1: making your own isn't that difficult. You can make your own.
Speaker 1: You just boil it dry and let's let it sit
Speaker 1: and then boil it and then you just start in
Speaker 1: your friends and you scoop it out and whatever you want.
Speaker 1: We got to talk through that on another time. And
Speaker 1: also with more time on the show, we can actually
Speaker 1: educate people on exactly like people don't know, like people
Speaker 1: want to eat healthy right, Like we've been eating bad
Speaker 1: for just so long and we don't I would taste
Speaker 1: buzz are not even used to you know, healthy food,
Speaker 1: so it tastes it, don't even taste for feeling through.
Speaker 1: So what what what what is? You would you say?
Speaker 1: How would you start to you know, approach it slowly
Speaker 1: and gradually just change it over. What what I would
Speaker 1: suggest is two things. First, if we're talking about sustainability,
Speaker 1: that thens you're eating to live right. That means you
Speaker 1: want to be healthy, you want to keep good things.
Speaker 1: So first start with reading the ingredients. And when you
Speaker 1: start to read the ingredients and you see this highly
Speaker 1: processed and artificial playors and preservatives, sessure just eliminate that
Speaker 1: because that's no that's good for you at all. So
Speaker 1: you start there right. Then also have the refrigerator also. Yeah,
Speaker 1: then you know it's funny because we wanted to raid
Speaker 1: people's friensures. We thought that would be a great show
Speaker 1: to raise people. I mean seriously, because people aren't aware
Speaker 1: and you know they're not as educated, and I believe
Speaker 1: people really want to learn and do well. But the
Speaker 1: second aspect is um balance. Balance, So you can eat
Speaker 1: certain things, but try to balance it out with some
Speaker 1: good things and some healthy thing. So it's like if
Speaker 1: you have some go to regular regulars that you make
Speaker 1: mac and geese, whatever it is, try to make or
Speaker 1: at least have about three or four plant base or
Speaker 1: healthy not necessarily versions or some something that you can
Speaker 1: go to that's healthy. As a balanced meal. You don't
Speaker 1: need to eat a certain way all the time. You know,
Speaker 1: animal protein with every meal and dairy and so forth.
Speaker 1: So it's about finding a balance too. You can start there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was perfect. And and then also pick one day
Speaker 1: out the week, like pick one day out the week
Speaker 1: where you want to start saying, I'm not gonna eat
Speaker 1: how I eat. I'm gonna try to eat clean today.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm gonna eat such and such. Don't eat
Speaker 1: the meat, eat the sides, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: don't use the butter, and use smart balance. Just try
Speaker 1: to pick that one day and then that one day,
Speaker 1: see if you can do it again next week. And
Speaker 1: then if you can hear four times in next day,
Speaker 1: next month, trying to switch two days if you can't,
Speaker 1: And like you said, it gets back to balancing and
Speaker 1: understanding you know your body. It's like it's kind of
Speaker 1: taking in the aspect like if we go out to
Speaker 1: the club, right and we drink and you it's kind
Speaker 1: of like you know, if you drink too much, you
Speaker 1: know that next day, that water you have, that that gatorade,
Speaker 1: ginger rail, you gotta sweat it out, you some push
Speaker 1: up jumping Jack's same. You gotta you gotta apply the
Speaker 1: same mentality the food, and then you gotta also apply
Speaker 1: information like like like the first thing you said, it's
Speaker 1: like half for us, and we don't know. It's because
Speaker 1: we're not taking that time to make disinformation importants like
Speaker 1: you have to make like if you know, like both
Speaker 1: of y'all look very nice to that. You know what
Speaker 1: all our clothes come from. You know where all the
Speaker 1: drip comes from, and how much of course by the
Speaker 1: best drip you you you know, you wash them outside
Speaker 1: of your body as much as possible. What about the inside?
Speaker 1: What information are you looking up for the inside and
Speaker 1: you grab your phone for you know, we're looking up Instagram, Twitter,
Speaker 1: fashion stuff called stuff, jewelry stuff. Look what's up with
Speaker 1: your heart? Ailments, your body? What's wrong with you? How
Speaker 1: you can fix it? Like take time to investigate and
Speaker 1: get some information on And that's that's what we are
Speaker 1: firm believers in because I think a lot of people
Speaker 1: think you gotta do some like like U rule or
Speaker 1: some kind of you know like tree Huggle or super
Speaker 1: Nerdy or super we just you will get the people
Speaker 1: also think you have to have a lot of money
Speaker 1: in order to that's not yeah, and that's that's that's
Speaker 1: actually not true. Exactly, you're paying more money for me
Speaker 1: if when you go to the when you go to
Speaker 1: the supermarket. And you if you take the meat products
Speaker 1: off your dot, if your or if your list, you're
Speaker 1: your bill is gonna drop significantly significant. You're paying for carcuts,
Speaker 1: like you're paying essentially for a dead animal, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like you're paying of your your grocery
Speaker 1: is for deadnique. So it's like, once you eliminate that, uh,
Speaker 1: it's actually not expensive at all. It's actually super cheap.
Speaker 1: It's super cheap. Und how the shop and what the body?
Speaker 1: What exactly, doody hopeful. I was about to say, wholefood
Speaker 1: by certainly more expensive than shot. Right, But here's another thing, like, see,
Speaker 1: this is the thing I started me for saying the
Speaker 1: things so much. But this is the the cause for
Speaker 1: us being in this health world and not being the
Speaker 1: typical health people. If you're listening and you're black and
Speaker 1: your brown, and you're paying attention right now, and then
Speaker 1: my brothers and sisters just brought up a great question.
Speaker 1: And you know, but we don't say that ship about Jordan's.
Speaker 1: We don't say that ship about the new I phone.
Speaker 1: If you got the newest Jordan's, you've got the newest
Speaker 1: night texture, You've got the newest sneakers. You gotta rolly.
Speaker 1: You've got an iPhone watch, you wish every game you
Speaker 1: got all of that. Don't start complaining about the ship
Speaker 1: that's gonna save your life, about the ship you gotta
Speaker 1: spend that's gonna save your life. If you ain't complaining
Speaker 1: about the ship that you're spending, that ain't gonna save
Speaker 1: your life. You understand what I'm saying. So that's some
Speaker 1: ship we're do in the community where it's like cool,
Speaker 1: like when people tell me, I be I truck some
Speaker 1: strap funk out of here with that dog. Lets look
Speaker 1: at your sneak this dog. You got the new retro
Speaker 1: ships on. It's just seven right, right. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying that how much the snapback courts? How much?
Speaker 1: Of course? Yeah, the real ones? Right, So we don't
Speaker 1: hear that expensive ship. You gotta start doing your whole work,
Speaker 1: be diligent and give a funk about it about yourself
Speaker 1: enough to say, all right, let me spend my money
Speaker 1: at least on some ship that's gonna benefit myself. How
Speaker 1: the fund is a Gucci man bag. I'm helping when
Speaker 1: you when you really understand how much we're targeted and
Speaker 1: how much like they using the food literally to target didn't.
Speaker 1: Almost becomes a defense mechanism to just be like it's like,
Speaker 1: you know, you don't say after you when you're on yours.
Speaker 1: It's like a bulletproof vest. They're shooting that. You got
Speaker 1: to put that best on defense. You know, the understanding
Speaker 1: that that's dope. See. I like the way you break
Speaker 1: it down, break it that's what that's what you know,
Speaker 1: what it is. That's what we do. The activism right
Speaker 1: because a lot of people do they say, they say
Speaker 1: activism is something that's so far fetched and it's only
Speaker 1: these type of people are supposed to do that. I'm like,
Speaker 1: na dog. The same way you want to go to
Speaker 1: the club, We go to the club too. We hang out,
Speaker 1: we do all the ship you do. We just ain't
Speaker 1: gonna watch our people die and we're gonna stay on
Speaker 1: the front line to make sure you So that's that's
Speaker 1: what we're doing, is evolutionizing everything that I'm an evolution
Speaker 1: I tell people I'm not a revolution revolutionary. I'm an
Speaker 1: evolutionary because they say it your mother's and grandmother's revolution.
Speaker 1: You know, um um civil rights organization. This ship is different.
Speaker 1: It's gonna look like the culture like. And that's why
Speaker 1: I love y'all. You don't not know. You say we
Speaker 1: gotta be no ghur rule and no nerd hugging and
Speaker 1: treat Now, I'm from the hood. I do the same
Speaker 1: ship y'all do. But I'm just gonna make sure that
Speaker 1: I live long enough to be able to to see
Speaker 1: my great grandkids. I'm gonna live, I'm gonna eat healthy,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take care of my body. And you can
Speaker 1: do it to the same way, from the same culture
Speaker 1: we're from. It's because I'm thinking. My song always says,
Speaker 1: it's not your grandmother's movement or grandfather's movement, but he
Speaker 1: is so in the walking in the light of Reverend
Speaker 1: Jesse Jackson in some ways by making up words and
Speaker 1: evolution is a new is evolutionary, that's evolutionary. That's this
Speaker 1: new word, and that's what Reverend Jackson used to do.
Speaker 1: Just well, you just take, you gotta take, Yeah, you
Speaker 1: gotta take those the things that you we don't. I
Speaker 1: don't discredit none of our ancestors. We stand on their shoulders.
Speaker 1: They did things, but we're gonna take what you did
Speaker 1: and we're gonna modernize it and make it, make it
Speaker 1: flavorful for this culture, so these kids can feel attached
Speaker 1: to it, can see it like Okay, it don't look
Speaker 1: you know, it don't look so far. Yeah, exactly, they
Speaker 1: have to resonate. It has to resonate, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying that they gotta feel Otherwise you're speaking in
Speaker 1: a whole different language. And I want all of this
Speaker 1: is attached, like every one of us. Like we were
Speaker 1: just talking the other day, I say, like your movement,
Speaker 1: you know, um being this movement, trades movement. I live
Speaker 1: a mortal technique. It's all whether it has different faces
Speaker 1: in different times, it's all part of the same movement.
Speaker 1: It's for the same people. Like what we do is
Speaker 1: a big part of understanding. You eat it clean and
Speaker 1: drink it clean. Has a lot to do well, you
Speaker 1: know what our ancestors gave us. But we're just trying
Speaker 1: to tell you in a new way, like you know time,
Speaker 1: we just we ain't doing nothing new under the sun.
Speaker 1: Y'all ain't doing nothing right. We're just doing it in
Speaker 1: a new way. Like you're saying, if we're gonna be
Speaker 1: like we get back to our roots, because a big
Speaker 1: part of you eat and clean and drinking clean and
Speaker 1: show you could be calm too and working, so you
Speaker 1: could be calm and black man, because I did that
Speaker 1: go to do with I wanted to check my temperament
Speaker 1: because I can't be one of them, one of them
Speaker 1: out head and just keep sucking up everybody, especially right.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying process work. So you're saying
Speaker 1: that if we eat better, what my son eats better,
Speaker 1: and there has been a change in him since he
Speaker 1: started eat he doesn't eat meat, not not really, very rarely. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he only eats sea food. He eats double vegetables. All
Speaker 1: of that. Me, I'm struggling, and our team members, some
Speaker 1: of us are struggling. We have one that is a
Speaker 1: vegan completely, so you know, we do balance it out
Speaker 1: and we learn how to eat better. And I think
Speaker 1: my anxiety, cause I have I have diagnosed anxiety. And
Speaker 1: I do notice that the more water I drink and
Speaker 1: the more that I take care of myself, it's like
Speaker 1: the temperament gets better. I want to ask a question
Speaker 1: that goes a little away from this, you know. You
Speaker 1: know ext just passed, you know, so that was a
Speaker 1: that was a big loss for just the world, and
Speaker 1: you know, and I know how how you all all
Speaker 1: you know, I know that's family. Like, how do y'all
Speaker 1: feel like when you heard like, how have you been
Speaker 1: dealing with the process of um? Well, God blessing first
Speaker 1: and foremost all thogs go to heaven. Um were deal
Speaker 1: with the process how we deal with We're all processes.
Speaker 1: We understand that God's decision is much more powerful and
Speaker 1: wiser than ours. We deal with the physical loss, but
Speaker 1: we we kind of understand it's a big part of
Speaker 1: the health thing too. We understand that. And she never
Speaker 1: really dies, you know what I mean. He may be
Speaker 1: physically going, but you know he's here. Like we've lost
Speaker 1: the child. Obviously people know that. Those who don't know,
Speaker 1: we've lost the child. So definitely the way we deal
Speaker 1: with losses is understanding. And for me, what's funny is
Speaker 1: um from reading my wife's book, she wrote a book
Speaker 1: for E three or high it it's given me a
Speaker 1: process with understanding that you know, the privilege of losing
Speaker 1: sometimes and understanding because it gets you, you know, kind
Speaker 1: of get your energy close to God. If you don't
Speaker 1: break down, you know, you're either gonna break all the way.
Speaker 1: Now I'll get close to guy and find a break open.
Speaker 1: You know, I find yourself, find yourself close to guy.
Speaker 1: So it's inevitable we're all going to go. We're definitely
Speaker 1: gonna see my brother again. That's that's inevitable to see
Speaker 1: all I love was on the other side. But we
Speaker 1: just we keep it pushing in. Every time we catch
Speaker 1: a major loss in the community just wakens us up
Speaker 1: to understand we have more of a job to do.
Speaker 1: Why we do exactly what we do, and you know,
Speaker 1: put tide of hoodie up, pull the boots up, get
Speaker 1: back to it. That's right, man, alight the dog man.
Speaker 1: I just wanted to say that real quick, you know.
Speaker 1: But you know, I love you man. That was one
Speaker 1: of the first dudes when I came over to the prisons.
Speaker 1: You know, I was like rapping. I'm like, Staules, I
Speaker 1: need you to get on this job. He's all right, Mike,
Speaker 1: let's do it. He showed up and he did. And
Speaker 1: there's not a lot of people, you know, it's it's
Speaker 1: very few or things. I think the rough ride of
Speaker 1: camp just in general, is one of the most organic
Speaker 1: camps that I've ever been around in the world. Like
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, everybody is who they say
Speaker 1: they is in their camp from the beginning inception. When
Speaker 1: I came into this, they embraced me, always shown me love.
Speaker 1: So you know, I just want to say that you
Speaker 1: know I love you, brother, and you know I love you.
Speaker 1: That's right, man. So watching you and your wife just
Speaker 1: flourish and moving this space and continue to just grow
Speaker 1: and evolve and package health, you know, I would not
Speaker 1: this is this ain't something that you would thought Styles do.
Speaker 1: Like people like Mice. I would have never thought that
Speaker 1: she was gonna be it civil rights. Nobody would have
Speaker 1: thought that Styles was gonna be someone that was a
Speaker 1: health and the Styles was ready whatever, Like listen to me,
Speaker 1: I was. I've been in the camp and I've been
Speaker 1: in whenever something was happening. Styles was the first one
Speaker 1: like he was like what what happened? What were doing?
Speaker 1: Listen and I'm like ready always. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So when you see the evolution of them, man, it's
Speaker 1: it's a salute. You just got to salute them in
Speaker 1: and congratulate you. Man. But this is what this is
Speaker 1: a serious wall. Like we said, it's not just about health,
Speaker 1: It's about you know, because I want everybody who's tuned
Speaker 1: into us right now to understand this is not just
Speaker 1: a healthy way of my people. This is some real
Speaker 1: ship like they have not. You canna look at the numbers,
Speaker 1: but look at the numbers. We ain't lying the numbers
Speaker 1: to tell you the truth. Think about your family. And
Speaker 1: when I look at the numbers, think about your family.
Speaker 1: Think about your aunt with high blood pressure, diabetes, heart problems,
Speaker 1: stroke out. You know, they just think about it though.
Speaker 1: And you know, we used to being on this ship
Speaker 1: all day and you know, talk about popular ship and
Speaker 1: what's living with fly and that's cool. We're gonna do that.
Speaker 1: We're gonna continue to do that. We love nice ship
Speaker 1: over here. We really do like nice ship. So but
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, we gotta take care
Speaker 1: of our own. We gotta take care of our people,
Speaker 1: and we got to understand that this ship is a war.
Speaker 1: This ain't just get healthy look good to throw some
Speaker 1: nice clothes on so Jews self herds and oils running
Speaker 1: and the thing, you know, we exactly what's happening, and
Speaker 1: we're playing our part in the world. If I was
Speaker 1: the one, y'all, it's the same ship as if we
Speaker 1: were standing on the block. I say, yo home, they're
Speaker 1: gonna spend that You spend that corner, they're dumping out.
Speaker 1: You ain't got family over there, You ain't got no
Speaker 1: personal problems, you ain't got no investor. You want to
Speaker 1: avoid there. We ain't doing that with the food and
Speaker 1: the miseducation though, And that's where we're here to make
Speaker 1: sure it happens. We're gonna stop spending that block. We're
Speaker 1: gonna avoid that block. Well, thank y'all so much for
Speaker 1: being with us today. Just listening to you, it just
Speaker 1: brings me to all the people that died um in
Speaker 1: the black community, particularly throughout this pandemic with COVID nineteen,
Speaker 1: and most of them the issue was heart disease and
Speaker 1: just pre existing health conditions asthma, things that we know
Speaker 1: healthy living can at least help with. Not saying that
Speaker 1: you're going to be a hundred percent heell tomorrow, but
Speaker 1: you certainly could be in a better situations. So styles
Speaker 1: p and Aja side Awa when that's such a beautiful
Speaker 1: name to peoful people. Thank y'all so much for being
Speaker 1: with us, and we want you to come back and
Speaker 1: help educate. We're want we want to promote your products
Speaker 1: on the show. So we're definitely gonna connect with you
Speaker 1: all and make sure that we get you said, it's
Speaker 1: a war man, and our people need to make sure
Speaker 1: that they prepared. Yea god lovelut its alut. Before we
Speaker 1: go to the next segment and have our special guests join,
Speaker 1: we're gonna take a quick break for our sponsors, so
Speaker 1: our change Maker segment today. Um, you know, and since
Speaker 1: we're keeping with this theme of healthy living, sustainable living,
Speaker 1: I think it's so important mice for us to really
Speaker 1: start trying to help shift the minds of our people
Speaker 1: to more sustainable living choices. And also standing that after
Speaker 1: this pandemic, we cannot depend on the government and you know,
Speaker 1: the larger society to protect us. We have to learn
Speaker 1: how to protect ourselves and how to make sure that
Speaker 1: our communities are set up in ways that we can
Speaker 1: survive when things get bad. Famine because there was actual
Speaker 1: like food deserts for real, that was stuff really happening
Speaker 1: during this pandemic where people couldn't get the things they needed.
Speaker 1: But also um, in terms of sustainable living, we have
Speaker 1: someone today, a change maker, an incredible young man who's
Speaker 1: actually from Ethiopia. UM. And you know, I think one
Speaker 1: of the other things that we learned is that because
Speaker 1: the pandemic impacted us all over the world, we need
Speaker 1: to share ideas with black people and other people from
Speaker 1: around the world so that we can find the best
Speaker 1: tips for us even here in America. And so Jo
Speaker 1: Dahi Bizabi Uh is an environmental expert who lives in Ethiopia.
Speaker 1: He has he's the host of a show that I've
Speaker 1: been watching. Its actually really really cool called Influencer Uh.
Speaker 1: And you know he's funny. So we're about to get
Speaker 1: somebody who can, who can, who can help retrain us
Speaker 1: and make us laugh all at the same time. Thank
Speaker 1: you so much for being with us, Joe Dari, thank you,
Speaker 1: Thank you very much. The pleasures all mine. Thank you
Speaker 1: for the invitation. So tell us what you do, tell
Speaker 1: us because you listen, I got five jobs down here
Speaker 1: for you. You got all this stuff we need. What exactly,
Speaker 1: UM do you do? And and and I know you're
Speaker 1: you're using your expertise on your show to talk about
Speaker 1: these things, But drill down for us and let us
Speaker 1: know where you are and how your knowledge base can
Speaker 1: help us with sustainable living here in the US. So
Speaker 1: H once again, thank you very much. It's a great
Speaker 1: honor to discuss about this. I mean, this is basically
Speaker 1: what I do all the time. Um. So in my background,
Speaker 1: I'm an applied biologist. I grew up in the city, born,
Speaker 1: e raised. I've always wanted to work in UM something
Speaker 1: that could um potentially impact in regards to nature and sustainability.
Speaker 1: But I've I haven't seen it from any other aspect
Speaker 1: but the scientifical aspect of it. So growing up being
Speaker 1: called the trash mobile trash can because I used to
Speaker 1: carry a lot of trash in my bag or in
Speaker 1: my pocket because my friends threw away their trash in
Speaker 1: my pocket. Actually, most of the time, I was UM
Speaker 1: somehow that geek with a lot of UM understanding about
Speaker 1: environmental sustainability and always left about it, even chilling with
Speaker 1: my friends, Uh fun facts that I've found out about
Speaker 1: the ocean or or different things. So I was always
Speaker 1: that person that asked about a lot of questions about
Speaker 1: environmental sustainability and it pushed me into applied biology. So
Speaker 1: being an applied biologist showed me the scientifical aspect of it,
Speaker 1: but not the rest, you know. So there's the negotiation aspect,
Speaker 1: the business aspect of it, so many, so many other
Speaker 1: UM sectors out there that are working on environmental protection,
Speaker 1: but we still do not understand it. So one thing
Speaker 1: left to another, me speaking about me, put putting out
Speaker 1: those vibes about environmental sustainability. People started pulling me in
Speaker 1: into projects and youth led organizations such as Youth Network,
Speaker 1: Youth Negotiation on Climate Uge Convention green HICH, a concept
Speaker 1: which I helped build UM in so many ways, and
Speaker 1: I've had the chance to to also in turn in
Speaker 1: the Ministry of Environment in our country and for our
Speaker 1: UM for our for our City at Saba City, Brazilist
Speaker 1: Project Office, which actually works on how to make our
Speaker 1: city as resident as possible. So throughout my college years,
Speaker 1: I've been volunteering here and there too to come up
Speaker 1: with solutions on how we could potentially solve this issue.
Speaker 1: But I still didn't see an impactful organization or network
Speaker 1: UM that are working on environmental sustainability from a wholesome aspect.
Speaker 1: So that's how um UM. I wanted to create a
Speaker 1: platform where people could come in and have their own
Speaker 1: perspectives in regards to environment and sustainability and put in
Speaker 1: there a small contribution to the bigger costs that we
Speaker 1: are trying to do because I believe art could speak
Speaker 1: about environment protection just as UM the scientists could. So
Speaker 1: we're trying to create a platform for influencers with an E.
Speaker 1: He represents the environment obviously, or Ethiopia, education and entertainment
Speaker 1: all wrapped up together. So UM that is the word
Speaker 1: that we were trying to use, and it started off
Speaker 1: with Judah's influence at first. It still is going. We're
Speaker 1: still trying to bring in UM friends from different parts
Speaker 1: of the world and in Ethiopia that are working on
Speaker 1: environment sustainability and trying to revitalize the younger generation in
Speaker 1: our country UM into working on environmental systemability. M hm.
Speaker 1: So on your show, you have a lot of interesting
Speaker 1: topics and one of them is climate anxiety. How does
Speaker 1: climate change your alter anxiety? You guys really did your assignments?
Speaker 1: Uh So, I mean mental wellness and and every aspect
Speaker 1: of it is a huge choose priority and I wish
Speaker 1: in everybody's life. And I haven't had that much of
Speaker 1: an issue with any mental disorder, thank god, for so
Speaker 1: many years of my life. But I've always had that
Speaker 1: preservation that that it's that that um um um sense
Speaker 1: of um not doing anything, not contributing anything to the cause.
Speaker 1: You know, Um you hear. I don't even watch much
Speaker 1: of the news anymore in regards to the environment of
Speaker 1: protection because it's just it takes me to places that
Speaker 1: I don't want to go. So I usually focus on
Speaker 1: new innovations that are working for the environment of protection. UM,
Speaker 1: new ways, new science, that that is a good news
Speaker 1: for our world, because that actually drives me. But when
Speaker 1: I hear um small islands getting eaten up by the ocean, um,
Speaker 1: this very hard um scenes from the polar bears in
Speaker 1: the in the northern part. Also in Ethiopia. While you
Speaker 1: were just discussing the desert locusts has been infesting in
Speaker 1: our country. Um, not only on our country, but in
Speaker 1: the Horn of Africa because of the winds, the climates
Speaker 1: change pushed the desert locusts in this area and made
Speaker 1: it stay here because usually just travels into the desert
Speaker 1: and they just die out and they're usually the cycle
Speaker 1: goes on in a small manner. But now because they're
Speaker 1: not able to to to be taken by the wind
Speaker 1: which they usually route is, they stayed and almost defastly
Speaker 1: half of more than half of our countries food. Um um. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So anyways, I've always had that reservation. I'm like, I'm
Speaker 1: not I'm still not doing anything for the cause I
Speaker 1: need to do more um uh. And it's just it's
Speaker 1: something that I'm still trying struggling with. And Apple, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think I totally understand what you mean, because I
Speaker 1: think for for all of us, it's like, we know,
Speaker 1: we see the weather changing. We see when it's supposed
Speaker 1: to be cold, it's hot, and I mean really hot
Speaker 1: days are changing so quickly. Then all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: a snowstorm comes and it's something that is like a
Speaker 1: blizzard from pre like years and years and years ago.
Speaker 1: Like there's so many things that's changing, and and like
Speaker 1: even the season that we're in right now, the pollen
Speaker 1: and the you know, the allergy season is so strong,
Speaker 1: so we know something is happening. But then we noticed
Speaker 1: that the climate change conversation is so political. So you
Speaker 1: have you know, Republicans who want to ignore it, and
Speaker 1: then you have Democrats that want to try to do
Speaker 1: something about it. And then you know, and it starts
Speaker 1: getting into money and so it us create a level
Speaker 1: of of anxiety where even people like me, I have
Speaker 1: anxiety to the point where I'm going to actually worry
Speaker 1: about it. But somebody like my song is gonna be
Speaker 1: like I'm just gonna eat right, my my business. We're
Speaker 1: just gonna keep it moving, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: But it does create in all of us attention of
Speaker 1: like if we know that the country like that, what
Speaker 1: is they they say it's melting, We're melting? Is that
Speaker 1: what we're okay? So if we're melting, then what are
Speaker 1: we gonna do? Like what are we going to do?
Speaker 1: And who knows? And then you have people telling you
Speaker 1: to put solar panels over your home. It's a lot
Speaker 1: of information to take in, especially when we've been taught
Speaker 1: none of it from childhood. So that I mean not
Speaker 1: to cut cut you off, but that is basically what
Speaker 1: we're trying to do, trying to dial down the conversation
Speaker 1: that the chatter which we see on the TV screens
Speaker 1: or different places reach makes the problem even more bigger,
Speaker 1: and to make the smallest change as much as possible
Speaker 1: so that we could have the biggest impact at some point,
Speaker 1: because um, I don't know if you guys have seen
Speaker 1: the videos, but Some of the videos are so simple
Speaker 1: where we just rethink of what we do, for example,
Speaker 1: just not using your straw or reusing your clothes for
Speaker 1: for a bag, maybe just reusing up cycling or just refusing,
Speaker 1: just not not doing things that you're you're not supposed
Speaker 1: to do. Walking into the distances, just small distances which
Speaker 1: you can walk to. UM. There are so many other
Speaker 1: aspects of it which you could bring to. You could
Speaker 1: bring in the health aspect, the business aspect, the political aspect,
Speaker 1: from all all sources of environmental arena and UM we
Speaker 1: can all win at the same time. So that's that's
Speaker 1: basically what we're trying to do. Also from the younger
Speaker 1: John erration, we're trying to work with the different high
Speaker 1: schools in our country about environmental sustainability. So we hope
Speaker 1: we could make a better change even and influence the
Speaker 1: rest of the world, influence with the with the E
Speaker 1: so we we we appreciate you man. And environmental education
Speaker 1: is very important. Man. A lot of us don't focus
Speaker 1: on it because somehow we feel like it's just somewhere
Speaker 1: over there. A lot of people don't you know, they
Speaker 1: don't see it until it actually hits home. You know,
Speaker 1: I don't know exactly what you deal with in Ethiopia.
Speaker 1: I don't know that you know how you actually with
Speaker 1: the environmental changes are you're dealing with there, But I
Speaker 1: see them here in America and I'm watching how the
Speaker 1: weather is changing. I'm watching how you know, how plants
Speaker 1: are dying, how water is not as healthy as a
Speaker 1: lot of things that we're dealing with. You know. So
Speaker 1: I think the work that you're doing is commendable and
Speaker 1: we appreciate you. You know, where can when they find you?
Speaker 1: Where can they find your show? Where can they find you?
Speaker 1: You know, if they want to be more educated about
Speaker 1: what's going on? Thank you, Thank you once again. It's
Speaker 1: such a huge honor to be invited to this show.
Speaker 1: My name is jodas Um, it's my personal handle is Joda.
Speaker 1: Simple as that. But if you want to follow what
Speaker 1: we have been doing so far as Joda's influence, it's
Speaker 1: just like that Joda influence within E with no Space
Speaker 1: and now Influencers Network is officially going to be launched. Um,
Speaker 1: we're working on our websites, but the social media accounts
Speaker 1: are all up. Influencers next and eating Okay, Well, we
Speaker 1: appreciate you. Man, it sounds dope. Continue to do the
Speaker 1: work man. We're supporting you. Hopefully some people will see
Speaker 1: this and say, look, we need to fight for our environment. Man,
Speaker 1: we need environmental justice. You know your activism is definitely
Speaker 1: appreciated and respected. Brother, So maker than you appreciate h
Speaker 1: thank you, thank you, have a beautiful time. So how
Speaker 1: do you pronounce your brother's name again? Okay? Why would
Speaker 1: you do that to me? But I think it's I'm
Speaker 1: gonna say j B. I'm gonna call him JB because
Speaker 1: I think j B his name is like you gotta,
Speaker 1: we're gonna you can see, it's gonna be on the screen.
Speaker 1: I'm not. And for those people who are listening who
Speaker 1: can't see it, let me read it to you properly.
Speaker 1: I'm going to it's I believe it's Joe Dahi bizabi
Speaker 1: but JB. But I want to spell it properly. It's
Speaker 1: j O d A h I B e z a
Speaker 1: b I H j O d A h I no
Speaker 1: b e z a b I H. That's important because
Speaker 1: people who are listening who want to go find him online,
Speaker 1: they can't see the screen. Somebody, you know our you
Speaker 1: know our j B. No but I'm saying, but he
Speaker 1: gave you the heart. No, but on I heart. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you only hear I get it, and so you might.
Speaker 1: You might be listening and then you need this spelling.
Speaker 1: But he said it during it, but he didn't read
Speaker 1: his name. He told you, he told you, But how
Speaker 1: are you going to spell it? What I'm gonna say
Speaker 1: is this, Joe JB had a hell of the interview.
Speaker 1: You talked about environmental justice and all the things we need.
Speaker 1: So it was a dope interview. Follow him, Jello whole platform.
Speaker 1: She she spelled this, so you just follow him. But know,
Speaker 1: but he's talking about something that's really so serious and
Speaker 1: so many of our people. It still goes over. It
Speaker 1: goes over your head, and it goes over my head,
Speaker 1: goes over you us. Like I'm mad they don't have
Speaker 1: plastic bags at the grocery store. That's you know why
Speaker 1: I want my plastic bags from the grocery store. But
Speaker 1: be really honest, this is like they got plastic bags.
Speaker 1: Sometimes it depends on what you're you go to it.
Speaker 1: I go to Walmart. Walmart and is supposed to have
Speaker 1: no plastic that's supposed to be brown paper bags. Well,
Speaker 1: I like my plastic bags. You know why because I'm
Speaker 1: a plastic bag hoarder. So I put I have another.
Speaker 1: But you know all black households, I don't know, maybe
Speaker 1: every household, but definitely where you just put a little
Speaker 1: you just keep stacking them in there. So I have
Speaker 1: this place and not just keep because every time I
Speaker 1: got to go some like in my suitcase. You know,
Speaker 1: everybody knows. Everybody who traveled with me, travels with me knows.
Speaker 1: I have everything in my suitcase. I have the wipes, this,
Speaker 1: the spray, the arm and I was doing this before
Speaker 1: and I got gloves. So I have to put everything
Speaker 1: in a plastic bag because I want to keep things
Speaker 1: separated from one another. And so because if you touches,
Speaker 1: then the whole purpose of trying to bring things and
Speaker 1: make your house and your hotel room and stuff clean
Speaker 1: the germs is such a so I need I need
Speaker 1: plastic bags. Well, if you have to buy zip lock bags,
Speaker 1: that's too expensive. So I need the plastic bags from
Speaker 1: the grocery shopping so I could use them, and then
Speaker 1: I'm the person. This is one thing y'all don't know
Speaker 1: about me. But I actually saved the bag, like after
Speaker 1: I used them to travel. I keep, let's bring them
Speaker 1: all back home. This is a lot about a classic bag.
Speaker 1: This is a whole we could do a whole everie
Speaker 1: about plastic Classic, but that's actually not good for the environment.
Speaker 1: The environment. Speaking of the environment, it brings me to
Speaker 1: my I don't get it, you know, since we're talking
Speaker 1: about the environment and we're talking about germs and packages, eating, eating, writing,
Speaker 1: all these things. COVID. Oh yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: You argue about this, we do about it, but I'm
Speaker 1: guaranteeing you that you're not going to really today. I
Speaker 1: just want to know this, Right, we travel to Atlanta.
Speaker 1: We traveled to Atlanta. Right, we traveled to Atlanta. We
Speaker 1: traveled to my AMBI said, And we travel to different
Speaker 1: states all the time, and I just want to know,
Speaker 1: why does it seem like COVID is affecting Atlanta? Aff
Speaker 1: I mean, it doesn't feel like COVID is affecting Atlanta
Speaker 1: at all. But I'm just saying, when you walk, when
Speaker 1: you go to Atlanta, you don't think COVID has existed.
Speaker 1: If you wasn't watching the news and all that and
Speaker 1: you went to Atlanta, you wouldn't think we as independent well,
Speaker 1: our producer Janice Rodriguez just said that the Bronx seemed
Speaker 1: like they don't have COVID either, But the Bronx always
Speaker 1: was like that anyway. But I'm just trying to figure
Speaker 1: out there are a lot of places, but just to
Speaker 1: be honest, you know, just serious, there are a lot
Speaker 1: of places that have been open, right and you don't
Speaker 1: see this drastic you know, spike in the cases and
Speaker 1: the depths in a lot of these places. And then
Speaker 1: place is true, what do you mean it's not properly
Speaker 1: being reported. Georgia's specific lead the governor was like, we
Speaker 1: ain't about to be putting out numbers all the time.
Speaker 1: But if you talk to Keisha lance Bottom's office, the
Speaker 1: mayor's office, She's like, COVID is spiking crazy. Now. I
Speaker 1: don't know if people are dying the way they did
Speaker 1: in New York, but the difference with New York in
Speaker 1: a place like Georgia is the fresh air, Like your
Speaker 1: point had always been, which I kind of agree with
Speaker 1: the context of, like what you're saying, not the specifics,
Speaker 1: but the context I get it is that you can't
Speaker 1: have people locked in, you know, everybody in the house
Speaker 1: locked in because then the germs are just passing around, right,
Speaker 1: So people do need fresh air. And there was a
Speaker 1: point when they were like making you feel like you
Speaker 1: couldn't even go to the park and walk, and that
Speaker 1: wasn't good. So I think in Georgia, with the fresh
Speaker 1: air and people being they don't live the way we lived.
Speaker 1: The projects, the tenement buildings, the the co ops, the condos.
Speaker 1: We live on top from one another. We share the
Speaker 1: same elevator, buttons, we open in the same doors, so
Speaker 1: we spread things different in certain places. That's what I think.
Speaker 1: I don't in Atlanta. See, this is what I'm trying
Speaker 1: to say. I hear what you're saying. In Atlanta, it's
Speaker 1: not what That's what I'm trying to tell you. You You
Speaker 1: You can walk into the regular just lounge and it's
Speaker 1: a million people, they touching everything, they giving you a pound,
Speaker 1: and it's the same people every time you go. It
Speaker 1: ain't like none of them, That's what I'm saying. Ain'tybody
Speaker 1: come back like you're such and such as man sick.
Speaker 1: We gotta do this. That's the same. Don't see the
Speaker 1: local news, but it's not I'm not talking about the
Speaker 1: local news. I'm talking about the local people. I see
Speaker 1: the local people. My man's in them own a lot
Speaker 1: of restaurants, they own clubs, and they did every week.
Speaker 1: Every time you go there, the spot is open, it's
Speaker 1: the same people they got, They're giving handshakes, they love it.
Speaker 1: It ain't no COVID there is what I think should
Speaker 1: So I'm trying to figure out. I don't get how
Speaker 1: COVID is some places where it ain't nobody going outside
Speaker 1: with this place. It ain't where everybody is going on,
Speaker 1: So like I need to understand it's playing to me
Speaker 1: how this is happening. I really just don't get it.
Speaker 1: I still think that it has a lot to do
Speaker 1: with space and air and all of that. I don't know.
Speaker 1: Maybe they built up her immunity faster. I really don't know.
Speaker 1: But what I do know is that we have a
Speaker 1: responsibility on this show to properly educate people. And we've
Speaker 1: been saying for over a year that we were going
Speaker 1: to find COVID experts and bring them on to talk.
Speaker 1: Because now every day but they answer that anything. They
Speaker 1: just they say, it's very strange, No, that we're not
Speaker 1: true what they don't You're not sure of all the details,
Speaker 1: but so that means you're not really an expert. If
Speaker 1: you're not sure of the details. Can you be sure
Speaker 1: about a pandemic that just started that you never even
Speaker 1: this is the first time you got. You be an expert.
Speaker 1: You are an ex spur at that type of medicine.
Speaker 1: We do not We do not have a COVID experts.
Speaker 1: There's no such thing. That's not true because COVID has
Speaker 1: been around forever, coronavirus has been around. I'm not I'm
Speaker 1: talking about COVID nating. There's no COVID nazing because there
Speaker 1: has been along the way. All these experts have made
Speaker 1: wrong steps. They told us this, and sometimes it's wrong. Okay,
Speaker 1: but that's you're not more about virus. They know more
Speaker 1: about viruses. Maybe they do, and maybe they don't. Who knows,
Speaker 1: because they're not an expert. Because some of our experts,
Speaker 1: some of our brothers who are online right, some of
Speaker 1: our own brothers nineteen Keys, Um Reason Islam and others,
Speaker 1: they feel that they have some expert knowledge about things
Speaker 1: we should and should not be doing. So we can't
Speaker 1: take away. We can't say there are no experts. I
Speaker 1: think they're different experts. There's a different expert. There's no
Speaker 1: expert COVID ninteen. That's just the bottom line. Nobody knows
Speaker 1: what the COVID nineteen shows up. When some people say
Speaker 1: they have it, they never got a call if they
Speaker 1: had nothing. And some people and some black doctors that
Speaker 1: know some things, and I think they do because it's
Speaker 1: no COVID nineteen expert. Because if there was an expert,
Speaker 1: they will be able to give you every Okay, this
Speaker 1: is this this. Nobody is able to give you a
Speaker 1: full scope of what COVID nineteen. We have a responsibility
Speaker 1: on street politicians to properly educate people, but we can't
Speaker 1: educate expert. A very good question on the table, why
Speaker 1: is it? Because you're right in Georgia, I've been obviously
Speaker 1: I see them even when they get called. But my
Speaker 1: family members that had it, that live in Georgia, they
Speaker 1: were very, very sick, very sick. One of my cousins,
Speaker 1: we weren't sure right, No. Two. I had two cousins
Speaker 1: that one of them was on her deathbed and the
Speaker 1: other one was very sick. But now her daughter of them,
Speaker 1: the one that was on her deathbed, Raven, her daughter
Speaker 1: was around her and she never has had any real
Speaker 1: heavy like experience, like she never I don't even think
Speaker 1: she knows if she has anybody. I don't think she
Speaker 1: knows if she ever had COVID at all. And she
Speaker 1: was around her mother while she was sick. So it's
Speaker 1: different things for different people. I don't know the answers,
Speaker 1: but I do know that, especially with this conversation around
Speaker 1: the vaccine, that we should make because one of the
Speaker 1: things that bothers me about the vaccine that I'm I'm
Speaker 1: dealing with right like I want my mother to be saved.
Speaker 1: I want to be safe. I want to help the society.
Speaker 1: I want us all to be a part of the
Speaker 1: society that you know, we work together, we make sure
Speaker 1: we vaccinated, we take care of ourselves. But I'm not
Speaker 1: at I don't get the concept. No, well, I do
Speaker 1: get the concept of just you know, understand, But look,
Speaker 1: vaccine is an individual choice. It's not because your physical anatomy,
Speaker 1: right is un like anybody else's physical anatomy. So the
Speaker 1: way a vaccine will react in your body, even if
Speaker 1: it actually helps you, or in how long it actually lasts,
Speaker 1: is different for each and everything. And I understand that.
Speaker 1: Understanding that reality, it should be your individual choice. If
Speaker 1: I have COVID. If I've had COVID and it doesn't
Speaker 1: affect me in the same manner, this is what I'm
Speaker 1: nothing because the point is if you are getting it
Speaker 1: and able to spread it in the same way, that's
Speaker 1: where the dangers are. But the reason that means that
Speaker 1: the individuals who who who feel like able to spread
Speaker 1: it in the same way. What do you mean you
Speaker 1: don't know? If we don't know if you come into contact, Listen,
Speaker 1: First of all, I am not advocating for you, but exactly,
Speaker 1: And that's important because I don't want people to get
Speaker 1: the impression that I'm saying everybody needs to go out
Speaker 1: and take the vaccine because I have not, but I
Speaker 1: have family members who have, and I've also assisted elderly
Speaker 1: people and other individuals to get it because they called
Speaker 1: me saying I need access. How do I get it? Right?
Speaker 1: But I also believe, and this is what I have.
Speaker 1: My research has said that if a vaccine is going
Speaker 1: to be highly affected, it's going to be effective because
Speaker 1: the masses have taken it. So that we can bring
Speaker 1: this explain to me. I'm saying that vaccines are not
Speaker 1: the way I've been told the way I have what
Speaker 1: I have studied and heard is that if you take
Speaker 1: a vaccine that actually works right, that doesn't have all
Speaker 1: the implications that we've been talking about. You take a
Speaker 1: vaccine that actually works, the more people that takes take
Speaker 1: the vaccine, it protects the entire population or society in general.
Speaker 1: That's what I've been told. But what I'm trying to
Speaker 1: get to but that's the same process of her immunity without.
Speaker 1: All I'm trying to say is that one of the
Speaker 1: things that has really bothered me is the fact that
Speaker 1: too many social media networks and different entities seem to
Speaker 1: be silencing the voices of those who are raising very
Speaker 1: serious issues and concerns with the vaccine. That bothers me
Speaker 1: because I've seen throughout history where we have been prevented
Speaker 1: from getting knowledge that we need about important things. And
Speaker 1: I think that, um everybody, there should be mass debate
Speaker 1: and dialogue about the vaccine, and instead of silencing the
Speaker 1: voices of those who are concerned or those who even
Speaker 1: feel we shouldn't be taking it, what should happen is
Speaker 1: that there be engagement. Because people like a reason Islam
Speaker 1: and others like that they have a following of people
Speaker 1: who listen to them, and so when you silence them
Speaker 1: or attempt to silence them, what happens is it causes
Speaker 1: more confusion. Rather than bringing someone like him to the
Speaker 1: table to sit down and say, let's go line for line,
Speaker 1: there should be people to your point, experts that I
Speaker 1: able to sit down and debate word for word. You
Speaker 1: say that it will cause this problem. Here's my the counterbalance,
Speaker 1: and then give some of us the opportunity to listen
Speaker 1: to that and say, Okay, I think that I'm going
Speaker 1: to take the vaccine because I feel comfortable that there's
Speaker 1: been enough information given, or I'm not gonna take it
Speaker 1: because I I agree with others who are against it.
Speaker 1: But right now I feel like the disinformation that exists
Speaker 1: just by the fact that we don't have enough information
Speaker 1: is very dangerous. That's my opinion. So I wasn't saying take,
Speaker 1: don't take the take. I was just saying that I
Speaker 1: think the way the vaccines are supposed to work is
Speaker 1: that the more people who participate, the better it is
Speaker 1: for society overall. But I also feel very concerned and
Speaker 1: unnerving or I feel nervous about it. My press. You know,
Speaker 1: my point of view. You know, it just differs. I
Speaker 1: just believe that as individuals, when you take the individual
Speaker 1: vaccine is supposed to protect you. Right, If you made
Speaker 1: a decision that you don't want to get you know,
Speaker 1: you don't want to catch COVID, your your immune system
Speaker 1: is not strong enough, you don't know how it's gonna
Speaker 1: affect you. You don't want and you made a conscious
Speaker 1: decision that this is something that you're willing to risk,
Speaker 1: whether it goes along with your molecular structure, whether it's
Speaker 1: gonna affect you. If you made that kinju decision, that
Speaker 1: that's how you feel as an individual, I believe you
Speaker 1: should do that. Right. I also believe that as an individual,
Speaker 1: if you believe that you've done everything health wise in
Speaker 1: which you're eating properly, your immune system is strong, you're
Speaker 1: doing all these things, and you believe that, Okay, I'm
Speaker 1: healthy enough that I can sustain. I don't want to
Speaker 1: put a chemical with my body that I don't know
Speaker 1: how my body is gonna react to. Right, I think
Speaker 1: you should be able to have that choice as an individual,
Speaker 1: And I don't think that you should be pressured to
Speaker 1: believe that if you don't want to take a vaccine,
Speaker 1: that you're not doing the global world of justice right.
Speaker 1: Because they also said when they when they talked about
Speaker 1: herd immunity heard him. Unity was something that they said,
Speaker 1: well developed without a vaccine, did it didn't? It didn't.
Speaker 1: In fact, the in the vaccine, they said herd immunity
Speaker 1: is when you actually enough people get it and then
Speaker 1: they become immune. People start to become immune around being
Speaker 1: around each other because it starts to the body starts
Speaker 1: to adjust. And that's why I say that we need
Speaker 1: I think this show should be a platform because we
Speaker 1: nobody tells us that who we can have on this show.
Speaker 1: I think this show should be a place where we
Speaker 1: have people who are on both sides of these issues
Speaker 1: to come and talk without them being either side being silence,
Speaker 1: because it's important that our communities be educated about the
Speaker 1: whole picture, not just the person that they love and
Speaker 1: listen to. That's cool, but there's more to learning than
Speaker 1: just listening to one aspect of any dialogue. Okay, well
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