1 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:07,920 Speaker 1: You're in the Freedom high This is the Buck Sexton Show. 2 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:11,200 Speaker 1: Buck took the day off, but don't worry, We've still 3 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:14,360 Speaker 1: got your covered. This is the best of the Buck 4 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 1: Sexton Show. Welcome to the Buck Sexton Show. Friends. Honored 5 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:23,840 Speaker 1: and privileged to have you here with me. There are 6 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 1: only a few names that you can think of from 7 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 1: American history that we are all supposed to that we 8 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:36,279 Speaker 1: all have some degree of reverence for right that we're 9 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 1: supposed to believe no matter who you are, where you 10 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:41,200 Speaker 1: come from this country, you're supposed to think, well, that's 11 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:44,960 Speaker 1: a great man. There are only a few names where 12 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 1: that is the case. And you can start with the 13 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 1: founding fathers, the people on Mount Rushmore, and you would 14 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 1: add Martin Luther King Junior, and you beat some people 15 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 1: would add I don't know. You know, they're a handful 16 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 1: of these names out there that when someone says who's 17 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 1: a great American and we can all agree on it, 18 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 1: there are only a handful of names that come to mind. 19 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:11,479 Speaker 1: And for a lot of people, they were at least 20 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 1: under the impression until recently that Abraham Lincoln was one 21 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 1: of them, that Abraham Lincoln would be free from cancel 22 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 1: culture that this would be a guy that we could 23 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:27,479 Speaker 1: all agree did something pretty extraordinary and wasn't perfect by 24 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 1: any means, But at the end of the day, he 25 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 1: was on the right side and was the commander in 26 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 1: chief of a military that ended slavery in the United States, 27 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 1: and that's a pretty remarkable thing. So we tend to 28 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 1: give him a lot of plaudits for this, and as 29 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 1: we know, he was assassinated afterwards for it. And but 30 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 1: Abraham Lincoln would be one of those names where you'd say, well, 31 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 1: the greatness of what he accomplished with the ending of slavery, 32 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 1: the greatness that he accomplished with all of this, wouldn't 33 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 1: that then him at least somewhat immune to these efforts 34 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 1: to destroy historical figures based upon some perception of what 35 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 1: they should be that's constantly changing and very new to 36 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 1: our current moment. But then I bring you the modern 37 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 1: American lib the left, the Democrats, and their wokeness, their 38 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 1: psychological disorder known as wokeness, and we have yet another 39 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 1: example of just how far that will go. You have 40 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 1: Abraham Lincoln as a name that a San Francisco high 41 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 1: school board or some kind of a committee that's looking 42 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 1: to rename schools, and it's in San fran and they 43 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:43,799 Speaker 1: want to get rid of Abraham Lincoln's name from a 44 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:47,359 Speaker 1: school because he was I believe the quote is insufficiently 45 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:53,079 Speaker 1: committed to black lives mattering or to the matter of 46 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 1: black lives. Now, for the man that ordered hundreds of 47 00:02:57,080 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 1: thousands of Americans to their deaths or to extreme pain, mutilation, 48 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:08,679 Speaker 1: being wounded on the battlefield to end slavery, to say 49 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 1: that he was insufficiently committed to black lives mattering would 50 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:17,800 Speaker 1: seem to be the height of insanity, and it is. 51 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 1: But there's a reason behind all of this. So we 52 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 1: need to start examining what's really going on in this 53 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:27,080 Speaker 1: country because we're at this point where we're told that 54 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 1: the Democrats are calling for unity, that Joe Biden and 55 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 1: his would be cabinet they're saying unify, and as we know, 56 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 1: unify really means bend the need of me, do what 57 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 1: I say, and we'll call it unity. But while they're 58 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 1: calling for this, we also see time and again they 59 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 1: don't particularly have any sense of unity to America as 60 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 1: we know it. There's something very different going on, and 61 00:03:56,720 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 1: it usually is incremental that this happens. They start with 62 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 1: something where we say okay, fine, you know, and this 63 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 1: is why when there was that old dust up about 64 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 1: about Confederate generals, I was saying, look, I'm I'm not 65 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:17,919 Speaker 1: somebody that is gonna carry in any water for the 66 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:21,359 Speaker 1: keep up some of these Confederate general's statue side of 67 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 1: this brief, it's, you know, it's a community decision, a 68 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 1: community standard. But understand this, they're coming for the founding 69 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 1: Father's next. In fact, Donald Trump said at the time, 70 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 1: well what about Jefferson, what about Washington? Are they gonna 71 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:38,040 Speaker 1: Are they gonna tear down those statues? There is here 72 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:40,480 Speaker 1: in New York City. I've seen this so many nights 73 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:43,920 Speaker 1: because I go for walks sometimes. Right near what is 74 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 1: known as Columbus Circle, named for Christopher Columbus, is a 75 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:51,040 Speaker 1: very large, very prominent statue of Christopher Columbus. There is 76 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:55,719 Speaker 1: an army of NYPD officers that are deployed in a 77 00:04:55,839 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 1: huge circle with barricades, and they've got they've got all 78 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 1: kinds of additional e su and vehicles deployed. It's it's crazy. 79 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 1: And I've asked the cops. I've said, is this really 80 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:12,040 Speaker 1: because you guys are worried that one night, the radical 81 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:13,840 Speaker 1: left is just going to show up and destroy this 82 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 1: statue of Christopher Columbus. And they said, yes, absolutely, that 83 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 1: is why we are deployed here. And this is in 84 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 1: one of the ritzier parts of New York City. It's 85 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:27,479 Speaker 1: outside the Time Warner Center. So even Deblasio realizes this 86 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 1: would get some attention. But they say that Columbus was 87 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:37,280 Speaker 1: a genocidal essentially a genocidal maniac who was engaged in 88 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 1: the exploitation of humanity and so on and so forth. 89 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 1: They don't care that we celebrate Columbus for discovering the 90 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 1: New World for Europe and the rest of the world. 91 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 1: They don't care about that. That's not enough. And as 92 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 1: we see with Abraham Lincoln, it's not enough that he 93 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 1: was the commander in chief and the president who led 94 00:05:56,640 --> 00:06:00,120 Speaker 1: us into war, a war that did end slavery in 95 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:02,720 Speaker 1: this country, and that he called for the freeing of 96 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 1: the slaves during that war. What's really happening here? There 97 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:11,920 Speaker 1: is an essay that I came across. I've never I've 98 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 1: never even heard of this publication before, and I haven't 99 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:17,920 Speaker 1: heard of this author before. But I thought this essay 100 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 1: was extraordinary, and I read constantly of the commentary all 101 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 1: over the web, and I'm always looking to see who's 102 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:30,839 Speaker 1: worth reading because most of it, ninety percent of what's 103 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 1: published on the Internet, even by so called conservatives or 104 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:37,279 Speaker 1: whatever it is, Really it's repetitive. It's an echo chamber. 105 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:40,040 Speaker 1: It's just not worth spending much time on, at least 106 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:43,280 Speaker 1: for me as someone who's reading this stuff all day long. 107 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 1: This was really good. It was at unheard dot com 108 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 1: and the author is Matthew Crawford, who is a fellow 109 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:55,599 Speaker 1: at the Institute for Advanced Studies in Culture at the 110 00:06:55,720 --> 00:07:01,280 Speaker 1: University of Virginia. The title is How Raised Politics Liberated 111 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:08,479 Speaker 1: the Elites And this is absolutely top notch analysis. It's phenomenal. Really, 112 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 1: it's a really really strong piece. And here let me 113 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 1: give you some of what we're talking about here and 114 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 1: why this I think defines our current moment for the 115 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 1: Democrat Party and for the left. The idea of a 116 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 1: common good, this is a quote from the piece, has 117 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 1: given way to a partition of citizens along the lines 118 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 1: of a moral hierarchy. Instead of feeling bound up in 119 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 1: a shared fate with one's country a countryman, one develops 120 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 1: an alternate, alternate solidarity that is placeless, the relatability across 121 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 1: national borders that the genteel folk feel in one another's company, 122 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 1: the gracious ease and trust, the shared points of reference 123 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 1: in high prestige opinion has something to do with their 124 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 1: uniformly high standing in the moral hierarchy that divides citizen 125 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 1: from citizen within their own nations. The decision making class 126 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 1: has discovered that it enjoys the mandate of Heaven, and 127 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:13,680 Speaker 1: with this comes certain permissions, certain exemptions from democratic scruple. 128 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 1: This is spot on, this is excellent. He's talking about 129 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 1: how in our country now, because America, I mean, the 130 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 1: short version of this is that because America, according to 131 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 1: the left now is inherently racist and misogynist, it gives 132 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 1: the elites. It gives this ruling class a mentality that 133 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 1: they owe no allegiance to that entity, to America, at 134 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:47,479 Speaker 1: least to the idea, to the ideals of traditional America. 135 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 1: They have something better, They're working for something better, and 136 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 1: so there's no need for them to debase themselves by 137 00:08:55,920 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 1: pretending that our flag waving, jingoistic, we love the founding 138 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:04,840 Speaker 1: fathers in the Constitution nonsense, should in any way slow 139 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 1: their role. They get to do whatever they want. They 140 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:11,680 Speaker 1: know better, you see, they're above it. But this is 141 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:14,720 Speaker 1: a version of something I've said to you many times before. 142 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:18,960 Speaker 1: There are those of us who take tremendous pride in 143 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 1: being American, and then there are those of us who 144 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 1: take pride in believing we are better than America, and 145 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 1: those are called liberals. Those are leftists. That's what they are, 146 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:36,079 Speaker 1: That's how they think. The reason that they're constantly encouraging 147 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 1: the most toxic identity politics, racial politics, gender politics, the 148 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 1: reason they do this is because they've adopted a philosophy 149 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:50,320 Speaker 1: that America is actually bad, that there's this moral rot 150 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 1: at the center of this country. They've identified it. It's 151 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 1: almost like they stumbled upon some secret knowledge and now 152 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 1: they're spreading this great wisdom to all the rest of us. 153 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 1: And anyone who rejects this, anyone who sees this for 154 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 1: the intense hypocrisy that it is, is shouted down. Part 155 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:13,079 Speaker 1: of the patriarchy, part of the racist, misogynistic system. And 156 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 1: also it gives the people at the top a total 157 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 1: pass for not working for what we think of as 158 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 1: the common good, not working for what we consider to 159 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 1: be universal American values. They can live their lives. This 160 00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 1: is why they can fly on private jets to climate 161 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 1: change conferences where they're going to talk about how you 162 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:37,560 Speaker 1: should be. You know, walking three miles or biking ten 163 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 1: miles to work every day can put all that co 164 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:42,720 Speaker 1: two in the air. Well, they're above you, you see, 165 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 1: they're working for this better world, this better place. You 166 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:52,359 Speaker 1: are part of this traditional America that's just so racist 167 00:10:52,400 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 1: and misogynistic and so awful. And so this goes way beyond, 168 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:05,840 Speaker 1: even way beyond the usual liberal hypocrisy. This is a 169 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:12,680 Speaker 1: kind of religion of elites excellence, and they are devotees 170 00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 1: of it. And they also get to think of themselves 171 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 1: as great heroes for standing up for the oppressed. I mean, 172 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 1: how many of you does this sound like your smug 173 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:25,679 Speaker 1: neighbor who has a big Biden Harris sign in their yard, right? 174 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 1: Don't they always think that they're somehow so morally enlightened, 175 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 1: even if their own personal choices are really crappy, and 176 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:34,600 Speaker 1: even if they don't really care about other people or 177 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:38,200 Speaker 1: help them very much. But they stand for equality. In fact, 178 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:42,520 Speaker 1: these days, they stand for equity the preferred term, which 179 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:45,679 Speaker 1: is just the quality of outcome, which is Marxism backed 180 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 1: into this piece for a second quote. In the Revolt 181 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:50,439 Speaker 1: of the Elites, Christopher Lash spelled out in greater detail 182 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 1: the role that claims of racial and sexual oppression play 183 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:58,080 Speaker 1: in securing release from allegiance to the nation, not just 184 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 1: for those who identify as its victims, but for those 185 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:06,160 Speaker 1: with the moral sensitivity to see victimization where it may 186 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 1: not be a parent, and who make this capacity a 187 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:14,839 Speaker 1: touchstone of their identity. It becomes a token of moral 188 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 1: elevation by which we recognize one another and distinguish ourselves 189 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 1: from the broader run of citizens. Both Lash and Hannah 190 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 1: Arrant argue that black Americans serve a crucial function for 191 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 1: the white bourgeoisie as the emblement proof of America's illegitimacy. 192 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 1: They anchor a politics of repudiation in which the idea 193 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:41,720 Speaker 1: of a common good has little purchase end quote, saying, 194 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:48,680 Speaker 1: all those elitist, white college educated liberal Democrats out there, 195 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 1: the libs who are always talking about racism, they don't 196 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 1: do anything to solve racism. They don't spend any time 197 00:12:56,760 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 1: in black majority neighborhoods. They don't really know what's going 198 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 1: going on within the black community. But they love pointing 199 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 1: out the racism all around them all the time, even 200 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 1: where there's no actual racism. Sometimes they do this because 201 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:16,200 Speaker 1: by demeaning traditional America American values, by saying that this 202 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:21,200 Speaker 1: place is racist and wrong and evil, they're not bound 203 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:25,600 Speaker 1: by the generally held conceptions of what makes a good 204 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:29,200 Speaker 1: American citizen these days, because they know better. They're above it, 205 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:32,720 Speaker 1: they're elevated beyond it. Doesn't this all sound exactly like 206 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 1: the ethos the modern philosophy of a democrat. Don't you 207 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:40,079 Speaker 1: all have friends that are just like this. They've never 208 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:46,560 Speaker 1: actually been in a high crime, majority minority neighborhood for 209 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:49,600 Speaker 1: more than a couple of hours or maybe driving through it, 210 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:52,800 Speaker 1: But they want to give you lectures about BLM. That's right, 211 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 1: They want to lecture you about BLM from their million 212 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:59,440 Speaker 1: dollar house in an all white suburb. These are the 213 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 1: kind of we're talking about here, The ones who are frauds, 214 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:07,319 Speaker 1: the ones who are fakes. How do they get away 215 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:10,520 Speaker 1: with this in their own minds? This is how they 216 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 1: don't take pride in being Americans. They think they are 217 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 1: better than America, They know better than America, and they 218 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 1: want to transform this place in this image. And that's 219 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 1: what we are facing now going forward, Liberty, truth and 220 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 1: great hair. You're listening to the best of the Butt 221 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 1: Sexton Show, How Race Politics Liberated the Elites by Matthew Crawford. 222 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:46,920 Speaker 1: Unheard dot Com is the site, and I just I 223 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 1: thought this was a fascinating analysis. And I like to 224 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:52,000 Speaker 1: give people credit when they do something like this that 225 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:55,200 Speaker 1: really advances the conversation. Other people just like to rip 226 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 1: people off and pretend it's there's no I want. I 227 00:14:57,600 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 1: want Matthew Crawford to get the High five deserves for this, 228 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 1: and he goes on, and I think we have to remember, 229 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 1: there's another way to prove this analysis or this line 230 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 1: of thinking, the legitimacy, the integrity of this philosophical approach, 231 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 1: because it's not only in America that this actually has 232 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 1: now spread. It's gone beyond American borders. So you'd think 233 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 1: that the left's unique revulsion at the longstanding history of 234 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:32,479 Speaker 1: slavery in this country and then Jim Crow and segregation, 235 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:36,280 Speaker 1: and you know, they say that they're they're confronting that 236 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 1: even today. That's what the left will tell you. But 237 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 1: yet there are BLM protests in London, in Paris, in Germany, 238 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 1: and the author points this out. This illegitimacy transcends any 239 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 1: particular historical facts about slavery and segregation, and indeed transcends America, 240 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 1: as one can surmise by the ease was with which 241 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:04,440 Speaker 1: American grievance politics have been exported throughout the Western world. 242 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 1: In this we sometimes see the use of historical American 243 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 1: references that have been weirdly transposed, as when a house 244 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 1: once lived in by Rosa Parks was relocated from Detroit 245 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 1: to Berlin, the financial seat of the European Union. Under 246 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 1: the Empire of Christendom, the market for material relics from 247 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 1: the Passion of the Christ was similarly global. They left 248 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:27,960 Speaker 1: the Holy Land and ended up in various seats of 249 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 1: earthly power, most recently the Transatlantic Festival of George Floyd 250 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:36,040 Speaker 1: attests to the fact that it isn't simply America that 251 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:40,240 Speaker 1: stands accused the social order is corrupt. Then, the labor 252 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 1: movement once had an alternative order to offer in its stead, 253 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 1: drawing on the socialist tradition. It was one that included 254 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 1: African Americans, not as African Americans, but as workers, and 255 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:54,480 Speaker 1: this movement was fairly successful. What happened then, The prominence 256 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 1: of the term repressed in the nineteen sixties is significant 257 00:16:57,920 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 1: and marks a shift into a new terrain of psychologized politics. 258 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:04,679 Speaker 1: The object of attack for the new left was no 259 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:08,720 Speaker 1: longer leis a fair capitalism, but society, the Freudian super 260 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:11,239 Speaker 1: ego more or less, with its insistence on standards of 261 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:15,359 Speaker 1: behavior that are binding on all society, is to be 262 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:22,520 Speaker 1: taken as inherently oppressive and discredited in the name of liberation. Effectively, 263 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:28,880 Speaker 1: America is so oppressive, racist, evil, gender discriminatory. It's such 264 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 1: a bad place that the left can completely rewrite the 265 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 1: rules of what we should be trying to achieve in 266 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:37,879 Speaker 1: this country. And on a personal level, they feel no 267 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 1: particular allegiance to traditional America, and they feel like their 268 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 1: actions are always justified because they're working for this greater, 269 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:51,640 Speaker 1: idealized future. Isn't this every lib you know? Isn't this 270 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:55,800 Speaker 1: every smug Biden voter you've come across in the last 271 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 1: year or so. I'm sure there are some exceptions, but 272 00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:01,920 Speaker 1: I'm betting it's most of them. Just to finish this up, quote, 273 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:04,280 Speaker 1: if the ideal of a demoralized public sphere was a 274 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:08,040 Speaker 1: signature aspiration of liberal secularism. It seems we have entered 275 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:12,120 Speaker 1: a post secular age. Populism happened because it became widely 276 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:15,439 Speaker 1: noticed that we have transition from a liberal society to 277 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:20,240 Speaker 1: something that more closely resembles a corrupt theocracy. End quote. Yeah, 278 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:23,639 Speaker 1: this is the religion of the elites we are talking about. 279 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:30,400 Speaker 1: Buck took the day off, but don't worry, We've still 280 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:33,359 Speaker 1: got your covered. This is the best of the Buck 281 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 1: Sexton Show. Big story about Eric Swawell, a member of 282 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:41,719 Speaker 1: Congress and on the Intelligence Committee no less in the House, 283 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:45,399 Speaker 1: who was targeted by a Chinese spy. People are now 284 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 1: paying more attention than they have in quite some time 285 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:53,480 Speaker 1: to Chinese espionage and influence operations in the United States. 286 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:55,680 Speaker 1: I wanted you all to get a real sense of 287 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:59,359 Speaker 1: how far and why those operations really are, and so 288 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 1: we're bringing all our friend Gordon Chang to tell you 289 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:04,800 Speaker 1: about it right now. He's the author of a book 290 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:07,200 Speaker 1: you can get right now, ebook The Great US China 291 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:10,720 Speaker 1: Tech War, and you can follow him on Twitter Gordon G. Chang. 292 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:12,120 Speaker 1: If you want to know what's going on with China, 293 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:16,040 Speaker 1: you should Gordon. Thanks so much, Thank you, Buck. So Gordon, 294 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:18,960 Speaker 1: take us just from the broad strokes here because I've 295 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:20,919 Speaker 1: spent some time on the Swallowell case this week, and 296 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:23,680 Speaker 1: we can dig into that in a moment. But what 297 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:28,760 Speaker 1: do people need to know about Chinese Communist Party influence 298 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:33,400 Speaker 1: and espionage operations as a as a systematic threat that's 299 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:35,679 Speaker 1: been going on for years in the US. Yeah, Well, 300 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:38,679 Speaker 1: China's operations against the US have been going on for 301 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 1: years and indeed decades, and they are at all levels 302 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:45,719 Speaker 1: of society. We're talking not just the White House, not 303 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:49,520 Speaker 1: just the House and Senate, but also down to municipalities. 304 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:53,800 Speaker 1: You know, the most interesting detail about the Swalwell investigation 305 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:57,080 Speaker 1: is that they first came into contact with him, not 306 00:19:57,119 --> 00:19:59,720 Speaker 1: when he was on the House Intel Committee, which of 307 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:02,400 Speaker 1: course would be of value to them, but when he 308 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:07,240 Speaker 1: was a council member in Dublin City, California. They started early, 309 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:11,520 Speaker 1: They helped to promote his campaigns. They obviously were trying 310 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 1: to intrate him, to influence him, and indeed, in a 311 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:19,280 Speaker 1: sense it may have worked because even after the FBI 312 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:22,400 Speaker 1: warned him that there was a possible Ministry of State 313 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:27,960 Speaker 1: Security agent in his inner circle, Swalwell didn't talk about 314 00:20:28,119 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 1: China's threat to the US. It was all Russia, Russia, Russia, 315 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:36,280 Speaker 1: and I think that was certainly helping China because that's 316 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:39,960 Speaker 1: one of their narratives that it's not them. So we've 317 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:43,879 Speaker 1: got to be concerned. And remember Swalwell was just one individual. 318 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:47,680 Speaker 1: They're doing this across the country. No other nation has 319 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 1: posed such a big intelligence threat to the United States ever. Now, 320 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:55,760 Speaker 1: tell us about some of the ways that they influenced, 321 00:20:55,800 --> 00:21:00,119 Speaker 1: specifically on the corporate side, and just if you can 322 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:03,480 Speaker 1: add a little context here for the ways that they 323 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 1: can exert influence in a fashion that moves the needle 324 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:11,240 Speaker 1: for them, But that may not be as obvious people. 325 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:13,640 Speaker 1: I mean, we know that they're trying to get classified information. 326 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 1: We know about the cyber side of things. We hear 327 00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:19,040 Speaker 1: more about that than we do this other these other aspects. 328 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:23,560 Speaker 1: But on influence operations, how is the Chinese commists part? 329 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 1: I mean the NBA, for example, right, we know the 330 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 1: NBA doesn't want to go against the CCP. Where else 331 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:32,160 Speaker 1: are there pressure points in what we're seeing day to day? Well, 332 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:34,439 Speaker 1: I'll take something from the headlines, and this is the 333 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:37,960 Speaker 1: other side of the aisle. The Republican Governor of Georgia, 334 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:45,040 Speaker 1: Brian Kemp he always tells the investment opportunities for China 335 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:49,320 Speaker 1: in the Peach State. He was actually proud to be 336 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:53,879 Speaker 1: pictured next to Houston's Consul general from China before, of 337 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:56,879 Speaker 1: course the consul before the consulate was closed by the 338 00:21:56,880 --> 00:22:00,040 Speaker 1: State Department in July. So really, what they try to 339 00:21:59,920 --> 00:22:02,360 Speaker 1: do is they go after all of the states, They 340 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:07,480 Speaker 1: go after many of the cities, dangling out sister city projects, 341 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:11,680 Speaker 1: also trade and investment, all the rest of it. So 342 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:15,600 Speaker 1: this is multidimensional and it's sometimes it looks harmless, as 343 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:18,359 Speaker 1: it does in the case of Georgia, but it's part 344 00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:23,840 Speaker 1: of one malicious campaign. Whether we're talking Brian Kim, Eric Swalwell, 345 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:27,120 Speaker 1: or whomever, we're talking to Gordon Chang, author The Great 346 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:30,480 Speaker 1: US China Tech War, and you can follow him on Twitter, 347 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:36,480 Speaker 1: Gordon g as in g Chang, Gordon, tell me about 348 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:39,240 Speaker 1: the tech aspects of this and what we should be 349 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:41,440 Speaker 1: prepared for going forward. I know you've written a book 350 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:45,040 Speaker 1: on this recently. Yeah. What I tried to do was 351 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:48,119 Speaker 1: to look at China's tech challenge to the US, because 352 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:50,439 Speaker 1: if we go back a decade ago, China was not 353 00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:54,480 Speaker 1: considered to be a competitor to the US in tech 354 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:58,280 Speaker 1: but now in certain areas, in certain crucial areas, China 355 00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:01,040 Speaker 1: is actually ahead of the US. So, for instance, in 356 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:05,480 Speaker 1: quantum communications, they're not far behind. In quantum computing, which 357 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 1: is even more important, they can even be ahead if 358 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:11,200 Speaker 1: we take their claims at face value of their new 359 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 1: supercomputer all sorts of things like artificial intelligence, big data, 360 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:20,679 Speaker 1: they are even with US, if not ahead. This is 361 00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 1: a multidimensional challenge. China is trying to collect the DNA 362 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:27,480 Speaker 1: of Americans, and the question is what's up with that. 363 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 1: They've been doing that by hacking you know Anthem, the 364 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:35,639 Speaker 1: second largest health insurer. That hack was disclosed in early 365 00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 1: twenty fifteen. We know that they're buying up companies with 366 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:45,920 Speaker 1: DNA profiles of Americans. They offer subsidized DNA and analysis. 367 00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:49,240 Speaker 1: So if you go to an ancestry company, chances are 368 00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:53,560 Speaker 1: that China has gotten your DNA. So this is really 369 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:56,720 Speaker 1: a challenge to us really across the board. What would 370 00:23:56,800 --> 00:24:01,359 Speaker 1: China want with DNA? Gordon Two things buck. First of all, 371 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:06,399 Speaker 1: biotechnology is one of the ten areas that designated in 372 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:10,280 Speaker 1: their Nate in China twenty twenty five plan. That's a 373 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:15,240 Speaker 1: ten year program to dominate technology. But there's something even 374 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:20,800 Speaker 1: sinister about this. And as China is collecting American and 375 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:26,159 Speaker 1: the DNA of others, it is also restricting, essentially prohibiting 376 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:31,680 Speaker 1: the transfer of Chinese DNA too foreigners. They talk about 377 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:34,399 Speaker 1: how they want to be cooperative with the world, but 378 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:38,040 Speaker 1: they don't want us to see genetic material of Chinese. 379 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:43,040 Speaker 1: And many people suspect, including some in the US government, 380 00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:49,040 Speaker 1: that China is actually using DNA genetic information to design 381 00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:56,119 Speaker 1: diseases targeting certain ethnic or racial groups. Now this gets 382 00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:59,560 Speaker 1: to the point where we've got to be obviously critically 383 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:04,920 Speaker 1: concerned because we saw what the coronavirus did, and imagine 384 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:07,720 Speaker 1: if it were engineered. I mean some people say it 385 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:10,920 Speaker 1: was engineered, but whether it was engineered or not, it 386 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:14,359 Speaker 1: is criminaled American society, and it's now killed about two 387 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:18,960 Speaker 1: hundred and ninety thousand Americans. What Gordon, what Gordon is 388 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:23,120 Speaker 1: allowing China? Is it all just straight up lying about 389 00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:26,440 Speaker 1: the numbers in suppression Because we hear all the COVID 390 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:28,320 Speaker 1: numbers coming out of Europe, we hear about them in 391 00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:31,600 Speaker 1: South America, and obviously we're in a very bad spot 392 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:34,560 Speaker 1: right now with COVID in the US. We don't hear 393 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:37,600 Speaker 1: about huge outbreaks in China right now, or at least 394 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:40,080 Speaker 1: it's certainly not making the news cycle. What's going on 395 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:43,800 Speaker 1: a great question because the answer is we don't know. 396 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:48,159 Speaker 1: We do know that on January twenty six, the Communist 397 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:51,800 Speaker 1: Party formed its leading Group on the coronavirus, which is 398 00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:55,480 Speaker 1: essentially China's task force, and other than nine person roster, 399 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:58,520 Speaker 1: there was only one health official. The rest of them 400 00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:02,520 Speaker 1: were propaganda workers as they're called in China and Communist 401 00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:06,440 Speaker 1: Party hacks, so you can see that really their emphasis 402 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:10,560 Speaker 1: was controlling the narrative. And since that time end of January, 403 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:13,879 Speaker 1: we haven't heard very much about what's going on in 404 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:17,880 Speaker 1: China because they are suppressing information. You know. My sense 405 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:21,119 Speaker 1: is that they have fewer cases than we do, far fewer, 406 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:25,040 Speaker 1: because they use draconian methods. But we really don't know. 407 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:30,280 Speaker 1: We hear about outbreaks across the country periodically, including big 408 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:34,840 Speaker 1: cities like Shanghai, and then the news is just disappeared. 409 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:38,240 Speaker 1: So I think that essentially they do have a problem, 410 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:41,840 Speaker 1: they haven't mastered it, but nonetheless it's not as serious 411 00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:45,720 Speaker 1: as ours. Gordon. What is it that the Chinese Communist 412 00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:50,679 Speaker 1: Party wants to be the foreign policy going forward. I 413 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:53,000 Speaker 1: mean Trump clearly confronted them in a way that they 414 00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:56,760 Speaker 1: were not used to. If we do go into a 415 00:26:56,840 --> 00:27:01,120 Speaker 1: Biden administration here, what is it that the Chinese Communist 416 00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:03,800 Speaker 1: Party wants to be our viewpoint? You know, it's essentially 417 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:07,680 Speaker 1: what are they trying to achieve with the influence operations? 418 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:09,760 Speaker 1: Put aside, the espionage is clear, right, they want to 419 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:12,880 Speaker 1: steal our most valuable intellectual property and technology and they've 420 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:15,160 Speaker 1: been doing this for many, many years and gotten away 421 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:18,120 Speaker 1: with Well, we can't really it's incalculable, right, we can't 422 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:21,119 Speaker 1: actually even know the full scope and damage. But in 423 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:23,280 Speaker 1: terms of what they want our perception to be and 424 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:26,520 Speaker 1: what they'd want a Biden administration foreign policy to look like, 425 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:29,560 Speaker 1: what does that look like? Well, they want whoever is 426 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 1: inaugurated on January twenty to express subservience to China, because 427 00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:38,400 Speaker 1: we have seen this year but China try to overthrow 428 00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:41,960 Speaker 1: the government of the United States. And we know that 429 00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:45,240 Speaker 1: Cijun Ping, the Chinese ruler, has the view that there 430 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:47,720 Speaker 1: is only one sovereign state in the world and only 431 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:51,639 Speaker 1: one sovereign ruler, and that of course is China and 432 00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:55,560 Speaker 1: Ciji and Ping himself, so these are designs, you know. 433 00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 1: You know a lot of people say un China just 434 00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:59,160 Speaker 1: wants to replace the US at the top of the 435 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:04,360 Speaker 1: international system. That's wrong. China wants to overthrow that international 436 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:07,440 Speaker 1: system and replace it with this notion of worldwide Chinese rule. 437 00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:10,199 Speaker 1: And we have seen that they're willing to go to 438 00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:14,240 Speaker 1: any lengths in order to accomplish that, including inciting violence 439 00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:16,440 Speaker 1: on American streets, which is what they did this year, 440 00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:19,399 Speaker 1: which is more than just subversion, that's an act of 441 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:22,560 Speaker 1: war against the United States. So what we can see 442 00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:25,639 Speaker 1: is that China is trying to change our form of 443 00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:28,280 Speaker 1: government so that we are subservient to China and that 444 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:31,720 Speaker 1: we're no longer a sovereign republic. I know many people 445 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:35,280 Speaker 1: think that that is an extreme statement, but nonetheless that 446 00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:38,600 Speaker 1: is consistent with what we have seen China do, and 447 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:42,200 Speaker 1: the more benign interpretations of their goals are not consistent 448 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:45,240 Speaker 1: with the facts. Gordon, I'm sure that that it got 449 00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:50,960 Speaker 1: people's attention when you mentioned violence on US streets and 450 00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:54,640 Speaker 1: instigated by China. Tell us about that, Yes, Radio Free 451 00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:57,200 Speaker 1: Asia as a report, you know we've heard, of course, 452 00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:01,320 Speaker 1: the State Department closed the Houston Console in July China's 453 00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:04,280 Speaker 1: consulate and the Saint Department said it was a hub 454 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:09,200 Speaker 1: of espionage. Well, that is fits all five of the 455 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:13,560 Speaker 1: then Chinese consulates and indeed the embassy itself. Radio Free 456 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:17,520 Speaker 1: Asia reports that an intelligence unit of the People's Liberation 457 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:22,000 Speaker 1: Army based themselves in the Houston Consulate and there they 458 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:26,360 Speaker 1: were using big data and artificial intelligence to identify Americans 459 00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:31,400 Speaker 1: likely to participate in ANTIFA and Black Lives Matter of protests. 460 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:35,680 Speaker 1: And then the Chinese military sent those Americans videos via 461 00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:40,360 Speaker 1: TikTok on how to riot, So that is an act 462 00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:44,680 Speaker 1: of war. Also, you know, we have seen the Bureau 463 00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:47,479 Speaker 1: Chief for Europe of China Daily, which is an official 464 00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:52,880 Speaker 1: Communist Party publication, actually on Twitter encourage Americans to incited 465 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:58,200 Speaker 1: Americans to commit violence. So this is this is across 466 00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:02,479 Speaker 1: the board China policy right now, and that is the 467 00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:06,640 Speaker 1: most malaia that we can think of. Gordon Chang, everybody 468 00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:09,440 Speaker 1: check out the Great US China Tech War and follow 469 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:13,760 Speaker 1: him on Twitter. Gordon g Chang, Gordon, I always appreciate it. 470 00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:20,920 Speaker 1: Thanks for your expertise. Thank you. Buck Bucks off spreading 471 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:24,560 Speaker 1: freedom coast to coast. This is the best of the 472 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:31,360 Speaker 1: Buck Sexton Show. I also don't think we should get 473 00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:36,640 Speaker 1: too far ahead of ourselves on dealing with police reform 474 00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:40,760 Speaker 1: in that because they've already labeled us as being defund 475 00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:43,800 Speaker 1: the police. Anything we put forward in terms of the 476 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:47,520 Speaker 1: organizational structure to change police in which I promise you 477 00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:51,480 Speaker 1: will occur. Promise you just think to yourself and give 478 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:54,800 Speaker 1: me advice whether we should do that before January fifth, 479 00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:57,360 Speaker 1: because that's how they beat the living hell out of 480 00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:01,080 Speaker 1: us across the country. The same that we're talking about 481 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:05,400 Speaker 1: defunding the police, we're not. We're talking about holding them accountable. 482 00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:08,720 Speaker 1: Biden didn't get the memo from the left. And I 483 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:11,520 Speaker 1: know left wing activists and there are Bernie supporting folks 484 00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:13,640 Speaker 1: out there that people tell you know, when they say 485 00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:17,120 Speaker 1: defund the police, you know what they mean, defund the police. No, 486 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:20,520 Speaker 1: they're serious about it. See see the Democrats keep keep 487 00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:23,000 Speaker 1: hoping they can convince every Oh no, no, no, that's 488 00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:25,440 Speaker 1: not when we when we say that thing, it's not 489 00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:28,440 Speaker 1: what we mean. We say defund the police. We mean 490 00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:33,600 Speaker 1: is you know, accountability. No, no, that is not that 491 00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:37,719 Speaker 1: is not, in fact, what the Democrat activist base wants. 492 00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:40,960 Speaker 1: They they they want no more of this. They want 493 00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:46,320 Speaker 1: defunding of police. There you go. Biden, though, is telling 494 00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:48,320 Speaker 1: you what's obvious. And of course our media won't ever 495 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:52,160 Speaker 1: pick up on this because they don't want to upset 496 00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:55,400 Speaker 1: their a portion of their viewers who are left wing lunatics. 497 00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:58,720 Speaker 1: This was bad for Democrats in these house races. This 498 00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:02,080 Speaker 1: really hurt. It's a good thing that Joe Biden had 499 00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:05,680 Speaker 1: enough political consultants around him to tell him, Hey, the 500 00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:07,920 Speaker 1: numbers on this are not good. Don't don't go down 501 00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:14,520 Speaker 1: this aoc ilhan omar defund the police, crazy path. Don't 502 00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:16,280 Speaker 1: do that, because then you won't be able to fool 503 00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:20,360 Speaker 1: enough Americans into thinking that you're like moderate, good old 504 00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:22,720 Speaker 1: uncle Joe. You know, that was the big That was 505 00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:24,600 Speaker 1: the big problem. But there are going to be a 506 00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:27,480 Speaker 1: lot of fights about policing in the next four years, 507 00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:30,800 Speaker 1: that's for sure. The Democrats are convinced that they've gotten 508 00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:35,600 Speaker 1: They've created these these beachheads, they have these footholds, and 509 00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:39,480 Speaker 1: they change the language around all this. They talk about, how, 510 00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:43,720 Speaker 1: you know, police violence is this great threat to to 511 00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:47,200 Speaker 1: black and brown communities, and this is what they'll aways 512 00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:49,880 Speaker 1: say all the time. I mean, here, here's Karen Bass, 513 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:52,640 Speaker 1: who was at one point being talked about as a 514 00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:55,320 Speaker 1: possible VP for Biden. Here she is telling everybody what 515 00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:58,360 Speaker 1: her view of policing is played nineteen. My understanding from 516 00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:00,800 Speaker 1: the proposal it is that it's a propos all about 517 00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:04,959 Speaker 1: racial equity. And I think considering the historical moment that 518 00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:08,680 Speaker 1: we're in post George Floyd, where people finally in the 519 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:11,720 Speaker 1: United States understand that the issue of policing is a 520 00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:15,280 Speaker 1: question of systemic racism. We understand because of COVID, the 521 00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:19,240 Speaker 1: underlying health conditions, and so we have real issues in 522 00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:21,960 Speaker 1: this country. And what we saw over the last few 523 00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:25,080 Speaker 1: months is that maybe we can address some of these issues. 524 00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:28,520 Speaker 1: I think it makes absolute sense to do that at 525 00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:33,200 Speaker 1: the highest level. Why is there an issue of systemic 526 00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:37,080 Speaker 1: racism exactly? I really would like to have more of 527 00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:39,560 Speaker 1: this kind. I'd like to know what is the systemic 528 00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:43,040 Speaker 1: racism in law enforcement? I'm not eving getting it doesn't 529 00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:45,440 Speaker 1: exist or not. I don't. I think the answer is no. 530 00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:47,800 Speaker 1: But nonetheless, let's just get past that for right now. 531 00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:52,400 Speaker 1: What is it? What does it mean if we're going 532 00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:56,320 Speaker 1: to talk about disparate impact, which is this doctrine of 533 00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:59,120 Speaker 1: when some groups are affected by things more than others. 534 00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:04,680 Speaker 1: Inherently there must be a racial animus or racial inequality 535 00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:07,800 Speaker 1: involved in that. Well, I mean, as I've said to you, 536 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:11,880 Speaker 1: that's not necessarily true, because then you'd have to address 537 00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:18,280 Speaker 1: the Asian supremacist US system, where we have Asian Americans 538 00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:23,080 Speaker 1: out earning white households in this country, and they have 539 00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:25,240 Speaker 1: been I think for about the last fifteen or twenty years, 540 00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:29,560 Speaker 1: and they've also had more economic gains under the Trump 541 00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:31,960 Speaker 1: administration than any other group. So it's kind of a 542 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:35,960 Speaker 1: strange system of white supremacy when it doesn't actually make 543 00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:38,719 Speaker 1: sure that white people are advanced at the expense of 544 00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:41,640 Speaker 1: other people in this country. Right, So you have to 545 00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:43,759 Speaker 1: start with the facts what we know, and you can 546 00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:48,000 Speaker 1: also look at as I point out, gender inequality, sorry 547 00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:53,120 Speaker 1: I should say gender disparate impact. Violent crimes are ninety 548 00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:58,800 Speaker 1: percent plus committed by men. It is not anti mail 549 00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:03,160 Speaker 1: that there are more violent criminals who are prosecutor who 550 00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:05,720 Speaker 1: are met. That's just that's just that we have laws, 551 00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:08,480 Speaker 1: they're applicable, and that's how it shakes out. So I 552 00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:12,200 Speaker 1: just need I need to know where is this systemic 553 00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:16,960 Speaker 1: racism in law enforcement? Explain they say this and we're 554 00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:20,040 Speaker 1: all supposed to know. But what is systemically racist in 555 00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:23,800 Speaker 1: our cops are are mostly racist? Is that what it means? 556 00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:26,480 Speaker 1: I just want answers, but they're not going to give 557 00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:28,560 Speaker 1: us answers, are they. They're going to give us lecture. 558 00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:35,920 Speaker 1: You're in the Freedom Hut. This is the Buck Sexton Show. 559 00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:39,200 Speaker 1: Buck took the day off, but don't worry, We've still 560 00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:42,359 Speaker 1: got your covered. This is the best of the Buck 561 00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:48,920 Speaker 1: Sexton Show. Is there a doctor in the White House? 562 00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:54,840 Speaker 1: Not if you need an m d. This was written 563 00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:58,680 Speaker 1: by this guy, Joseph Epstein, And the subheading if this 564 00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:00,880 Speaker 1: is an editorial in the Wall Street Old Jill Biden 565 00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:06,720 Speaker 1: should think about dropping the honorific, which feels fraudulent even comic. 566 00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:11,640 Speaker 1: Let me just be very clear. It is fraudulent and comic. 567 00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:14,640 Speaker 1: It's absurd. Now, when is a fraudulent I mean the 568 00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:17,440 Speaker 1: notion that we should have to call this person who 569 00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:20,320 Speaker 1: got a PhD at fifty five because she was apparently 570 00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:22,879 Speaker 1: bored and you know, wanted to get more street cred 571 00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:27,439 Speaker 1: or something. Got a PhD at fifty five in some 572 00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:35,160 Speaker 1: kind of you know, educational field, and we're all supposed 573 00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:36,359 Speaker 1: to refer to as doctor. Now, well, let me be 574 00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:38,400 Speaker 1: very clear. This is a custom thing, this is a 575 00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:41,720 Speaker 1: cultural thing. There's no legal issue here, right, Call whatever 576 00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:45,520 Speaker 1: you want. So I don't really understand what they think 577 00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:47,400 Speaker 1: the big deal is here. And I want to be 578 00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:52,320 Speaker 1: very clear that when I look at this, I see 579 00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:55,680 Speaker 1: that there are people making a big deal is now. 580 00:36:55,760 --> 00:37:01,320 Speaker 1: I said back in August, doctor or Jill Biden shouldn't 581 00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:05,359 Speaker 1: be called doctor. This isn't a partisan statement. It's about reality. 582 00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:09,439 Speaker 1: That was back in August. So they wrote this piece 583 00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:12,560 Speaker 1: the Walls Through Journal a few months after. I was 584 00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:14,839 Speaker 1: already coming out there saying this because I think it's 585 00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:18,080 Speaker 1: very obvious. The whole thing is absurd. But you see, 586 00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:25,000 Speaker 1: they hate You're not allowed to mock. You are not 587 00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:29,319 Speaker 1: allowed to mock people in power when they're Democrats. You 588 00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:31,800 Speaker 1: can't do that. You're not allowed to poke fun at them. 589 00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:36,880 Speaker 1: They shut that down because it takes away from the 590 00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:40,000 Speaker 1: power and the perception of power that they're trying to 591 00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:43,200 Speaker 1: build for them. So, you know, I mean, Jill Biden 592 00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:47,200 Speaker 1: is not a doctor. And here's what this guy, this 593 00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:53,680 Speaker 1: guy writes, Madam first Lady missus Biden, Jill kiddo. Now 594 00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:55,719 Speaker 1: that people got mad about the kiddo thing, a bit 595 00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:59,200 Speaker 1: of advice on what may seem like a small but 596 00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:03,080 Speaker 1: I think is not on important matter. Any chance you 597 00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:07,560 Speaker 1: might drop the doctor before your name, Doctor Jill Biden 598 00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:10,480 Speaker 1: sounds and feels fraudulent, not to say a touch comic. 599 00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:15,279 Speaker 1: Your degree is, I believe an e an ed d. 600 00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:19,839 Speaker 1: Or a Doctor of Education earned at the University of 601 00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:25,160 Speaker 1: Delaware through a dissertation with the unpromising title student retention 602 00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:30,480 Speaker 1: at the community college level, meeting students' needs. A wise 603 00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:32,800 Speaker 1: man once said that no one should call himself doctor 604 00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:36,520 Speaker 1: unless he has delivered a child. Think about a doctor, Jill, 605 00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:42,799 Speaker 1: and forthwith drop the doc. I taught at Northwestern University 606 00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:45,520 Speaker 1: for thirty years without a doctorate or any advanced degree. 607 00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:49,920 Speaker 1: I have only a BA in absentia from the University 608 00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:53,719 Speaker 1: of Chicago in absentia because I took my final examination 609 00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:57,440 Speaker 1: on a pool table at headquarters Company ford Hood, Texas, 610 00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:00,680 Speaker 1: while serving in the Peacetime Army in the late nine fifties. 611 00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:03,719 Speaker 1: I do have an honorary doctorate, though I have yet 612 00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:06,560 Speaker 1: to report to the president of the school that awarded it. 613 00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:08,799 Speaker 1: I was fired the year after I received it. Not 614 00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:16,080 Speaker 1: I hope for allowing my honorary doctorate. That's right. So friends, 615 00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:19,239 Speaker 1: this is this is pretty straightforward. And I remember some 616 00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:21,200 Speaker 1: of you wrote any disagree with me on this, that's fine. 617 00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:24,120 Speaker 1: I think it's weird and if you if we can 618 00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:26,120 Speaker 1: argue about this, there's certainly arguing to be had on 619 00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:28,440 Speaker 1: both sides. I think it's weird to insist, because she 620 00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:31,080 Speaker 1: clearly does. Because there are tons of people out there 621 00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:34,520 Speaker 1: without doctorates. I'm sorry, with doctorates who don't want to 622 00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:37,359 Speaker 1: be called a doctor. There lots and lots and lots 623 00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:40,720 Speaker 1: of them. Um. I've always thought this was a little strange. 624 00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:42,719 Speaker 1: I never liked it. I had a we call them 625 00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:47,000 Speaker 1: headmasters at my grammar school, my primary school, so that's 626 00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:48,920 Speaker 1: that's what we had to call our principal, a headmaster, 627 00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:53,080 Speaker 1: and we had to call him doctor and he was 628 00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:55,719 Speaker 1: he wasn't a doctor. You know, we had some kind 629 00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:58,719 Speaker 1: of a doctorate in the humanities or whatever. And I 630 00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:03,000 Speaker 1: know that there's some there's some long standing tradition here 631 00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:06,160 Speaker 1: of people that are getting a you know, the PhD 632 00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:09,840 Speaker 1: came before the MD or whatever. I don't care. We've 633 00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:13,279 Speaker 1: we've evolved in our conversation about this. A doctor is 634 00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:16,719 Speaker 1: a person who is a doctor, right, and I think 635 00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:19,879 Speaker 1: that that's in it's it's delivered as an honorific, it's 636 00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:22,480 Speaker 1: delivered as a term of respect. I do not have 637 00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:27,480 Speaker 1: any respect for Jill Biden's PhD in community college retention. 638 00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:33,799 Speaker 1: I give zero, you know what's about that? And so 639 00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:36,759 Speaker 1: I'm not going to walk around and be told that 640 00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:38,200 Speaker 1: I have to I have to say this better. You 641 00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:42,200 Speaker 1: know this. If I insisted that Democrats call me Buck 642 00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:46,200 Speaker 1: the radio genius Sexton, they would have a right to say, now, 643 00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:49,200 Speaker 1: we're not actually going to do that. We're not actually 644 00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:51,479 Speaker 1: going to refer to him as the radio genius and say, well, 645 00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:54,080 Speaker 1: but why not, you know it, why not just be 646 00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:56,040 Speaker 1: polite and call him what he likes to be called. 647 00:40:56,760 --> 00:41:00,960 Speaker 1: They won't do that. So I I I had a 648 00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:04,239 Speaker 1: grandfather who had an honorary doctorate from Notre Dame No. One. 649 00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:08,520 Speaker 1: We never called him doctor. He wasn't a doctor. So 650 00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:12,719 Speaker 1: I think that this is this is just one of 651 00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:14,319 Speaker 1: these things that shouldn't have been such a big deal. 652 00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:20,120 Speaker 1: But the Libs and the machinery of Biden worship, that's 653 00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:23,200 Speaker 1: all kicking into gear. It's amazing. Oh this is sexist. 654 00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:27,200 Speaker 1: They say it's not sexist. Oh what they think that 655 00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:29,520 Speaker 1: if we were supposed to call him doctor Joe Biden 656 00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:33,840 Speaker 1: because of his PhD in education and in community college 657 00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:37,520 Speaker 1: retention or whatever, that we wouldn't make fun of him 658 00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:39,880 Speaker 1: for that. That's absurd. I mean, their point is absurd. 659 00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:42,759 Speaker 1: It's not it's not real. I would, of course make 660 00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:44,560 Speaker 1: fun of Joe Biden for that. I'd make fun of 661 00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:46,400 Speaker 1: anyone for that, and I think we have a right 662 00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:51,080 Speaker 1: to do that. But you'll you'll notice there's a particular 663 00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:57,360 Speaker 1: sensitivity around Biden and his wife and the First family 664 00:41:57,520 --> 00:42:00,880 Speaker 1: and all this stuff, because they'd don't want people to 665 00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:03,880 Speaker 1: start to realize how how silly this whole thing is. 666 00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:08,640 Speaker 1: That Joe Biden is a third tier mediocrity in every sense. 667 00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:11,640 Speaker 1: And they just figured that this is a guy we 668 00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:14,439 Speaker 1: could make president. They didn't spend enough time thinking about 669 00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:16,719 Speaker 1: should we make him president. They just figured out we can. 670 00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:20,080 Speaker 1: We can fool enough people with the media and with 671 00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:23,680 Speaker 1: social media allied together in a pandemic year, we could 672 00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:26,080 Speaker 1: we could get this guy to be president. And they're 673 00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:27,879 Speaker 1: all going to try to pretend like this is really 674 00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:30,240 Speaker 1: impressive and he's some great guy. Joe Biden's a clown, 675 00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:34,680 Speaker 1: and it's a little it is it's pretentious that her 676 00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:37,120 Speaker 1: wife that his wife rather goes around demanding to be 677 00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:40,839 Speaker 1: called doctor doctor Joe Biden. I'm sorry it is pretentious 678 00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:45,279 Speaker 1: because clearly she demands it. Because we know about it, right, 679 00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:47,520 Speaker 1: This isn't like it just is. It's not It's one 680 00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:52,040 Speaker 1: thing in the classroom on campus. I'm talking about it 681 00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:56,200 Speaker 1: in like general, in life, in general. You know, I 682 00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:59,320 Speaker 1: think Dick Cheney's wife has a has a doctor, and 683 00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:01,600 Speaker 1: no one calls her doctor Chenney like our missus Cheney. 684 00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:04,239 Speaker 1: There's tons of examples. The Wall Street Journal do its 685 00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:07,120 Speaker 1: credit fired back on this one because social media over 686 00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:10,759 Speaker 1: the weekend. Oh my gosh, how how dare you not 687 00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:15,239 Speaker 1: referred to as doctor Jill Biden. I just want to 688 00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:17,960 Speaker 1: know it. Has anyone who ever wrote a dissertation for 689 00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:20,840 Speaker 1: a PhD program at the University of Delaware. I'm just 690 00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:22,879 Speaker 1: gonna ask this question. Do you think I've ever not 691 00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:25,640 Speaker 1: gotten it? Do you think a University of Delaware has 692 00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:28,160 Speaker 1: ever been like, yeah, you're you're in their PhD program 693 00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:30,880 Speaker 1: and you finished a doctorate, but you know it just 694 00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:33,920 Speaker 1: wasn't really good, so we're not going to give you 695 00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:37,200 Speaker 1: your PhD. I'm just guessing I don't know. I have to. 696 00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:39,160 Speaker 1: I wonder if the state is even available. I'm guessing 697 00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:41,480 Speaker 1: the answer, though, is that you know, you show up, 698 00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:44,520 Speaker 1: you write the thing, you get the doctorate. So what 699 00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:48,279 Speaker 1: exactly is impressive about this? In what way am I 700 00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:52,319 Speaker 1: supposed to care about? No, of course not. Do you 701 00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:55,400 Speaker 1: think that? Do you think that if the roles were reversed, 702 00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:58,320 Speaker 1: if this was a Republican's wife, the Democrats would be 703 00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:01,000 Speaker 1: leaping to our defense. No? In fact, there was no 704 00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:04,799 Speaker 1: talk about the sexism of attacking Milani all the time. 705 00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:07,320 Speaker 1: There was no talking about the xenophobia of attacking her accent, 706 00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:09,760 Speaker 1: making fun of her a woman who speaks five She's 707 00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:13,920 Speaker 1: a highly successful international model who speaks five languages. But 708 00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:17,239 Speaker 1: they would they love making jokes about her, mocking her. 709 00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:21,719 Speaker 1: You think they made? You think they made jokes about this? 710 00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:25,080 Speaker 1: Would they make jokes about this if it was a Republican? Now, 711 00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:27,319 Speaker 1: they would if it was a Republican, Not if it's 712 00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:30,319 Speaker 1: a Democrat. So, oh, there's a little bit more here. 713 00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:34,319 Speaker 1: I want to read more from this guy's piece. The 714 00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:38,920 Speaker 1: PhD may have once held prestige, but that has been 715 00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:41,960 Speaker 1: diminished by the erosion of seriousness and the relaxation of 716 00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:46,640 Speaker 1: standards in university education generally at any rate outside the sciences, 717 00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:50,200 Speaker 1: getting a doctorate was then an arduous proceeding. One had 718 00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:53,680 Speaker 1: to pass examinations in two foreign languages, one of them 719 00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:57,000 Speaker 1: Greek or Latin, defend one's thesis, and take an oral 720 00:44:57,000 --> 00:45:01,320 Speaker 1: examination on general knowledge in one's field. At Columbia University 721 00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:03,920 Speaker 1: of an earlier day, a secretary sat outside the room 722 00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:07,080 Speaker 1: where these examinations were administered, a pitcher of water and 723 00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:10,560 Speaker 1: a glass on her desk. The water and glass were 724 00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:14,000 Speaker 1: there for the candidates who fainted a far cry. This 725 00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:16,799 Speaker 1: is from the few doctoral examinations I sat in on 726 00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:20,480 Speaker 1: during my teaching days, where candidates and teachers addressed one 727 00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:24,040 Speaker 1: another by first name, and the general atmosphere you're more 728 00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:29,640 Speaker 1: resembled a coffee clatch, doctor Jill. I note you acquired 729 00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:33,040 Speaker 1: your ed as recently as fifteen years ago or at 730 00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:37,560 Speaker 1: age fifty five, long after the terror had departed. The 731 00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:42,080 Speaker 1: prestige of honorary doctorates has declined even further. Such degrees 732 00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:47,200 Speaker 1: were once given exclusively to scholars, statements, statesmen, artists, and scientists. 733 00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:50,000 Speaker 1: Then rich men entered the list, usually in the hope 734 00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:52,000 Speaker 1: they would donate money to the schools that had granted 735 00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:56,840 Speaker 1: them their honorary degrees. My friends, my late friends. Saw Linowitz, 736 00:45:56,920 --> 00:46:00,439 Speaker 1: then chairman of Xerox, told me he had six three 737 00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:05,960 Speaker 1: honorary doctorates. Famoush television journalists who passed themselves off as intelligent, 738 00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:12,440 Speaker 1: followed entertainers who didn't bother feigning intelligence were next. At Northwestern, 739 00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:16,760 Speaker 1: recent honorary degree recipients and commencement speakers have included Stephen 740 00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:20,600 Speaker 1: Colbert and Seth Myers. I sent a complaining email to 741 00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:23,160 Speaker 1: the school's president about the low quality of such men, 742 00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:26,920 Speaker 1: of men, such sorry of such men as academic honor Rand's, 743 00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:30,880 Speaker 1: with the result that the following year, the commencement speaker 744 00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:34,279 Speaker 1: and honor rand was Billy Gene King, who, with the 745 00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:37,760 Speaker 1: graduating members of the schools women's tennis team, hit tennis 746 00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:40,640 Speaker 1: balls out to the audience of graduating students and parents 747 00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:43,399 Speaker 1: who had paid seventy thousand dollars a year for their 748 00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:47,560 Speaker 1: university education, or perhaps I should say, for their credential. 749 00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:54,120 Speaker 1: Political correctness has put paid to has put paid to 750 00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:58,000 Speaker 1: any true honor and honorary doctorate may once have possessed. 751 00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:01,880 Speaker 1: If you're ever looking for a similar similar to denote rarity, 752 00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:07,000 Speaker 1: try rarer than a contemporary university honorary degree list not 753 00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:10,399 Speaker 1: containing an African American woman. Then there are all those 754 00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:14,400 Speaker 1: honorary degrees bestowed on Bill Cosby, Charlie Rose, and others, 755 00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:18,800 Speaker 1: owing to their proven or alleged sexual predations, have to 756 00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:22,000 Speaker 1: have had to be rescinded between the honorary degrees given 757 00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:27,120 Speaker 1: to billionaires, the falsely intelligent entertainers, and the politically correct. 758 00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:30,960 Speaker 1: Just about all honor has been drained from honorary doctorates, 759 00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:35,279 Speaker 1: as your ed d or, E ed d Or, I 760 00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:37,920 Speaker 1: don't know how you even say this educational doctorate, Madame, 761 00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:40,400 Speaker 1: First Lady, hard owned, though hard earned though it may 762 00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:43,920 Speaker 1: have been, Please consider stowing it at least in public, 763 00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:46,719 Speaker 1: at least for now. Forget the small thrill of being 764 00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:49,399 Speaker 1: doctor Jill and settled for the larger thrill of living 765 00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:51,480 Speaker 1: for the next four years and the best public housing 766 00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:58,520 Speaker 1: the world has as First Lady Jill Biden. Yeah, completely 767 00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:01,000 Speaker 1: agree with this piece, which may not surprise that any 768 00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:04,120 Speaker 1: of you. I think it's completely correct. I think he's 769 00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:09,719 Speaker 1: spot on. I think Joe Biden is you know, I 770 00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:12,240 Speaker 1: think that she's a little high falutin here, and I agree, 771 00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:14,239 Speaker 1: and I think we are allowed to make fun of this. 772 00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:20,799 Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I am not simply not going to bend 773 00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:26,160 Speaker 1: the knee on this one because they say so. No interest, 774 00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:35,000 Speaker 1: no interest whatsoever. So that's what I would say. That's 775 00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:37,080 Speaker 1: where I am on this one. Not calling her doctor Joe, 776 00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:39,680 Speaker 1: don't call her Joe Biden the first lady. You can 777 00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:42,520 Speaker 1: call her first lady, that's fine, or Joe Biden, that's 778 00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:45,960 Speaker 1: her name. Joe Biden can hem and hall about this 779 00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:47,839 Speaker 1: as much as he wants, but really the more it's 780 00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:50,719 Speaker 1: just get ready for a lot of the of the 781 00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:52,839 Speaker 1: usual tactics you've seen in the past. They're gonna call 782 00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:56,560 Speaker 1: this person, They're gonna call this person. Weever, it is 783 00:48:57,120 --> 00:48:59,560 Speaker 1: in the role that is pointing out what's so obvious 784 00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:02,480 Speaker 1: to all of us sexist. Get ready for everything is 785 00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:05,520 Speaker 1: going to be sexist and racist again. That's that's the 786 00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:09,319 Speaker 1: future we're now heading toward in a Democrat bid administration. 787 00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:12,600 Speaker 1: Whenever they don't like something, it's sexist, it's racist. They're 788 00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:14,920 Speaker 1: not going to be arguing on the merits. They're not 789 00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:18,480 Speaker 1: going to allow for differences of opinion on things that 790 00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:20,680 Speaker 1: whenever they can get away with it, which is gonna 791 00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:23,440 Speaker 1: be a lot. They're gonna raise this as an issue. 792 00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:27,600 Speaker 1: They're gonna be telling people that this is the way 793 00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:33,080 Speaker 1: it has to be. And I'm sorry, I refuse, I refuse. 794 00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:35,560 Speaker 1: We gotta come up with something they already used hashtag resist. 795 00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:38,040 Speaker 1: We got to come up with a hashtag, you know, 796 00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:51,200 Speaker 1: go blank off libs, something like that, Liberty, truth and 797 00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:55,279 Speaker 1: great hair. You're listening to the best of the Buck 798 00:49:55,360 --> 00:50:03,480 Speaker 1: Sexton Show. Interesting. Sorry today at a time when I 799 00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:06,839 Speaker 1: know the Attorney General has come in for a lot 800 00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:10,200 Speaker 1: of criticism from Trump's supporters. Interesting story not getting a 801 00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:13,680 Speaker 1: whole lot of attention here, but a little bit. Special 802 00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:19,080 Speaker 1: Counsel Durham is expanding his team examining the origins of 803 00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:22,160 Speaker 1: the Russia collusion problem. Let me tell you what could 804 00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:25,040 Speaker 1: end up happening here, friends. Well, first, first, I'll give 805 00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:26,959 Speaker 1: you the update in the story. Fox News has learned 806 00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:30,000 Speaker 1: that Durham, the USE Attorney for Connecticut who bar appointed 807 00:50:30,120 --> 00:50:33,480 Speaker 1: in October a special Counsels adding prosecutors to his team. 808 00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:37,400 Speaker 1: It's unclear who they are, but Fox News a supporter 809 00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:39,920 Speaker 1: that Jeff j Jeff Jensen, the US Attorney for the 810 00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:42,840 Speaker 1: Eastern District of Missouri, stab by the Justice Department in 811 00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:45,080 Speaker 1: February or review the case of former AT Security advisor 812 00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:49,440 Speaker 1: Michael Flynn was helping the Durhm's investigation. So this is 813 00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:54,160 Speaker 1: this is interesting that that the Durham would be expanding 814 00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:56,880 Speaker 1: his team at this phase now he's a special counsel, 815 00:50:57,880 --> 00:51:01,479 Speaker 1: makes it a lot hard harder, makes it a lot 816 00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:06,520 Speaker 1: harder for anyone to just shut this down in a 817 00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:08,719 Speaker 1: Biden administration. I'm not saying it's impossible, but it makes 818 00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:12,520 Speaker 1: it more complicated, it makes it more politically costly. And 819 00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:15,120 Speaker 1: here's what I see happening. If they shut it down, 820 00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:18,480 Speaker 1: We've already established because they said this under Trump, if 821 00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:20,840 Speaker 1: they shut down they told us that if Trump shut 822 00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:23,680 Speaker 1: down the Special Collusion I'm sorry, Special Council probe into 823 00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:27,640 Speaker 1: Russia collusion, if they shut that down, they would impeach 824 00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:30,399 Speaker 1: him just for shutting it down. We might be able 825 00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:35,000 Speaker 1: to take the House back in two years. And depending 826 00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:38,680 Speaker 1: on what this Durham probe finds, wouldn't it be fair play? 827 00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:44,640 Speaker 1: Wouldn't it be justice? Dare I say if Durham gets 828 00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:49,440 Speaker 1: the goods on Biden and members of the members of 829 00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:52,680 Speaker 1: the Obama administration, I mean, who knows what he's really 830 00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:54,960 Speaker 1: going to find here, right, but people from the Obama 831 00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:58,200 Speaker 1: administration who could be back in the Biden administration and 832 00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:02,600 Speaker 1: Biden word shut down the Durham probe or even try to. 833 00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:07,359 Speaker 1: Maybe it's time for a little Democrat impeachment process and 834 00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:10,120 Speaker 1: maybe we'll see how they like it. You know, this 835 00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:14,680 Speaker 1: could happen. I know it's a ways out. But if 836 00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:18,040 Speaker 1: we do have a full accounting of Russia collusion, we 837 00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:20,960 Speaker 1: we'll see if the Democrats are a bunch of corrupt 838 00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:27,000 Speaker 1: deep state liars and their disgrace, and that the Obama 839 00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:30,799 Speaker 1: administration that Joe Biden was a part of at a 840 00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:34,920 Speaker 1: very high level was also a complete and utter disgrace. 841 00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:39,239 Speaker 1: So don't don't give up entirely on this. I said 842 00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:41,680 Speaker 1: Durham wasn't going to get it done before the election. 843 00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:44,360 Speaker 1: I didn't realize that there was going to be a 844 00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:47,319 Speaker 1: special counsel appointed after the election, or that he would 845 00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:50,600 Speaker 1: be appointed as a special counsel. And this could this 846 00:52:50,680 --> 00:52:53,400 Speaker 1: could change things quite a bit. This, this could be 847 00:52:54,840 --> 00:53:00,000 Speaker 1: very very relevant going forward because friends, the Russia calloo 848 00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:04,400 Speaker 1: stuff was was atrocious, and we know enough now to 849 00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:06,600 Speaker 1: know that everything we've said about how bad they were, 850 00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:11,160 Speaker 1: and how awful and egregious their actions were. We were 851 00:53:11,239 --> 00:53:14,439 Speaker 1: telling the truth, we were correct, and they were lying 852 00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:17,919 Speaker 1: about this stuff. So Durham being able to find out 853 00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:20,879 Speaker 1: more here and get to the point where he's able 854 00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:23,879 Speaker 1: to hold people accountable, I think that could really make 855 00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:27,560 Speaker 1: a big difference down the line. Not right now, but 856 00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:31,440 Speaker 1: down the line. This is a long fight, friends, Don't 857 00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:35,920 Speaker 1: don't feel dejected. Don't feel like you know all is 858 00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:38,160 Speaker 1: lost right now, because I understand there's a tough week 859 00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:42,719 Speaker 1: with the electoral Electoral College today and this is not 860 00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:45,799 Speaker 1: an easy time. But we still have a lot of 861 00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:49,400 Speaker 1: fights ahead and the Democrats are going to have their handsful, 862 00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:51,319 Speaker 1: and I hope this Durham probe makes things a whole 863 00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:59,120 Speaker 1: lot more challenging for them, that's for sure. Buck took 864 00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:02,000 Speaker 1: the day off. Don't worry, We've still got your covered. 865 00:54:02,719 --> 00:54:07,239 Speaker 1: This is the best of the Buck Sexton show. They 866 00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:10,920 Speaker 1: can ban me, they can throttle me, they can shadow 867 00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:15,200 Speaker 1: band all the things that they're doing, demonetize, you know, 868 00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:18,720 Speaker 1: they can scold me with these emails. There's no human 869 00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:20,560 Speaker 1: being that could win any of these arguments with me. 870 00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:25,040 Speaker 1: So now it's all. It's all from anonymous online accounts 871 00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:28,680 Speaker 1: from these mega social media companies. I mean, this is 872 00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:31,520 Speaker 1: like a cough gas nightmare. You're banned because you said 873 00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:35,400 Speaker 1: something not true. I shared an opinion and it's actually 874 00:54:35,560 --> 00:54:38,880 Speaker 1: rooted in fact. But who wants to debate me? No? No, sorry, 875 00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:44,960 Speaker 1: the fact checkers said you're wrong. Oh oh, the fact checkers. Well, 876 00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:47,640 Speaker 1: I'm sure people that spend their time doing fact checks 877 00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:52,040 Speaker 1: on social media are really smart and understand the complexities 878 00:54:52,040 --> 00:54:56,160 Speaker 1: of American politics as well as microbiology and COVID policy. 879 00:54:56,280 --> 00:54:58,840 Speaker 1: I'm sure there are a bunch of geniuses. You know 880 00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:02,960 Speaker 1: what this is, friends, The left was losing ground when 881 00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:06,360 Speaker 1: social media was never a truly open playing field, but 882 00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:10,520 Speaker 1: when there was an active censorship. And so what they've 883 00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:14,920 Speaker 1: done is they've bullied their buddies, their peers, Jack Dorsey 884 00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:17,480 Speaker 1: and Zuckerberg and the rest, and they've bullied them into 885 00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:22,960 Speaker 1: adopting these official stances that privilege, advance and support the 886 00:55:23,040 --> 00:55:27,680 Speaker 1: left wing narrative of events. This we talk about how 887 00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:30,239 Speaker 1: if we lose, and we'll talk about the Georgia Senate seat. 888 00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:31,520 Speaker 1: It's coming up here in a little bit too. But 889 00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:33,160 Speaker 1: if we lose the Senate, they're going to add DC 890 00:55:33,320 --> 00:55:36,200 Speaker 1: Puerto Rico Pack, the Supreme Court get obviously the filibuster 891 00:55:36,239 --> 00:55:39,479 Speaker 1: are getting rid of. It goes first. If we don't 892 00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:44,480 Speaker 1: get control of the ability to communicate freely online, we're done. 893 00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:48,359 Speaker 1: In the long term, conservatism is over. If they can 894 00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:50,239 Speaker 1: tell you what you can think and what you could say, 895 00:55:50,239 --> 00:55:53,280 Speaker 1: and how you can share information because we can't compete, 896 00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:54,839 Speaker 1: you can say, oh, buck, well, we can all start 897 00:55:54,840 --> 00:55:56,960 Speaker 1: writing to each other with quill pens and use snail 898 00:55:57,000 --> 00:56:00,040 Speaker 1: mail or something. We won't be able to compete. The 899 00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:03,719 Speaker 1: propaganda machine will become overwhelming. Again. Why do you think 900 00:56:03,719 --> 00:56:06,439 Speaker 1: they're so desperate to do this. It's pathetic, but it's 901 00:56:06,560 --> 00:56:13,080 Speaker 1: very effective. It's very effective. This is concerning, it's upsetting. 902 00:56:14,239 --> 00:56:17,040 Speaker 1: We gotta fight, friends, We gotta fight. We gotta fight 903 00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:21,840 Speaker 1: for these election results to be clear, to be real. 904 00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:24,920 Speaker 1: We have to see where there was fraud. We have 905 00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:26,680 Speaker 1: to find it. We have to put it out there. 906 00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:29,480 Speaker 1: And they're gonna tell you that fact checkers say this 907 00:56:29,560 --> 00:56:33,360 Speaker 1: isn't true, of course, and they're gonna tell you. Do 908 00:56:33,440 --> 00:56:36,560 Speaker 1: what you're told. Wear a mask, shut up, peasant. Sorry 909 00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:38,759 Speaker 1: if you lose your business, Sorry if you have a 910 00:56:38,800 --> 00:56:43,160 Speaker 1: mental breakdown. Mental health metrics in this country are in 911 00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:47,800 Speaker 1: the toilet. I mean, it's going terribly for people, kids 912 00:56:47,840 --> 00:56:50,080 Speaker 1: taken out of school. I just want to know when 913 00:56:50,120 --> 00:56:52,880 Speaker 1: I was advocating for schools to be open in August, 914 00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:55,839 Speaker 1: as I was, and as the President Trump was, When 915 00:56:55,880 --> 00:56:58,520 Speaker 1: I was advocating for schools to open, I wonder I 916 00:56:58,560 --> 00:57:00,360 Speaker 1: have thing to be able to go back and look. Yet, 917 00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:04,680 Speaker 1: how much fact checking and throttling of my usage of 918 00:57:04,719 --> 00:57:10,680 Speaker 1: these supposedly free and fair platforms online occurred? Do you 919 00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:14,120 Speaker 1: think that? Do I get an email from Twitter saying, hey, 920 00:57:14,480 --> 00:57:19,320 Speaker 1: Fouchi's actually a week will Democrat jackass and you were 921 00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:24,360 Speaker 1: right about schools. Sorry about that? No, No, I do not. 922 00:57:26,040 --> 00:57:28,439 Speaker 1: I do I get anybody saying, oh wow, great call 923 00:57:28,480 --> 00:57:30,040 Speaker 1: when I said that New York City was gonna lock 924 00:57:30,080 --> 00:57:32,160 Speaker 1: down again, that all these cities were gonna lock down again, 925 00:57:32,400 --> 00:57:34,040 Speaker 1: and that the stuff we were doing over the summer 926 00:57:34,040 --> 00:57:37,800 Speaker 1: when cases were low was just theater. No, I do 927 00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:40,760 Speaker 1: not get an apology for that. No one tells me sorry, 928 00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:45,040 Speaker 1: you were right. Wow. What has Fouchi been right about? 929 00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:47,600 Speaker 1: I just what has Fouchi said that? He goes, oh wow, 930 00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:51,680 Speaker 1: that was good. He saw that one coming. Of course, 931 00:57:51,720 --> 00:57:55,880 Speaker 1: Biden's keeping them on the classic bureaucrat status move. Have 932 00:57:56,040 --> 00:58:00,440 Speaker 1: somebody who's a total clown, but they have the right politics, 933 00:58:00,560 --> 00:58:03,040 Speaker 1: and you keep them around. You keep them around and 934 00:58:03,080 --> 00:58:07,040 Speaker 1: have them hide behind their credentials. You know, Fauci's not 935 00:58:07,120 --> 00:58:09,919 Speaker 1: some world class brain surgeon. Okay, he's a guy who's 936 00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:12,240 Speaker 1: a game. We got, you know, to metrics and the numbers. 937 00:58:12,720 --> 00:58:14,960 Speaker 1: And you know, I've been a doctor in public health 938 00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:18,080 Speaker 1: for a long time. Yeah, what what great public health 939 00:58:18,160 --> 00:58:23,200 Speaker 1: scourge did he help us defeat? Ask yourself that question. 940 00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:25,640 Speaker 1: Where where's his record? Where's his track record of success? 941 00:58:25,840 --> 00:58:29,200 Speaker 1: Or was he just hiding in the flabby folds of 942 00:58:29,240 --> 00:58:33,400 Speaker 1: bureaucracy for the last forty years? The flu season might 943 00:58:33,400 --> 00:58:35,960 Speaker 1: be bad this year. Be careful, wash your hands. Thanks, 944 00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:41,920 Speaker 1: doctor Fauci. Amazing, it's amazing, right. You would hope that 945 00:58:41,960 --> 00:58:45,480 Speaker 1: we could at least be honest about this, but we can't. Okay, 946 00:58:45,560 --> 00:58:49,040 Speaker 1: I've got more questions. I can say them here. Thankfully. 947 00:58:49,120 --> 00:58:51,200 Speaker 1: I don't get shut down on radio, so I can 948 00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:53,200 Speaker 1: tell you the truth on the radio. I try to 949 00:58:53,240 --> 00:58:55,720 Speaker 1: tell you the truth online those of you follow me. 950 00:58:56,320 --> 00:59:01,040 Speaker 1: But getting getting shut down, Yeah, what else am I 951 00:59:01,080 --> 00:59:02,600 Speaker 1: gonna do? But yeah, by the thir year. You're gonna 952 00:59:02,600 --> 00:59:04,960 Speaker 1: tell me I'm already I'm posting every I'm on Parlor 953 00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:08,760 Speaker 1: all the time. I'm posting there, of course. But this 954 00:59:08,840 --> 00:59:11,640 Speaker 1: is why I've been saying, we need these things, and 955 00:59:11,760 --> 00:59:14,240 Speaker 1: we need people to back them, and we need big 956 00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:18,120 Speaker 1: money to go into them, you know, Republican billionaires. I 957 00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:21,360 Speaker 1: put out my clarion call to you again. You want 958 00:59:21,360 --> 00:59:25,640 Speaker 1: to help save the country, stop funding another think tank 959 00:59:25,720 --> 00:59:30,320 Speaker 1: that does nothing, and fund a social media platform so 960 00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:33,520 Speaker 1: that it can actually get the user base necessary. And 961 00:59:33,560 --> 00:59:35,920 Speaker 1: by if it's Parlor, that's great. I love Parlor. I'm 962 00:59:35,960 --> 00:59:38,720 Speaker 1: using it every day, and I appreciate what the people 963 00:59:38,720 --> 00:59:41,240 Speaker 1: who are spearheading that are doing. I'm all about it. 964 00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:45,880 Speaker 1: But we need more. I want conservative movie studios. I 965 00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:50,320 Speaker 1: want conservative news organizations that don't have to worry and 966 00:59:50,360 --> 00:59:53,000 Speaker 1: shut down the moment that there's a boycott from some 967 00:59:53,040 --> 00:59:56,040 Speaker 1: of these left wing activists who the game they play, 968 00:59:56,080 --> 00:59:57,720 Speaker 1: it doesn't even have to be a boycott. They just 969 00:59:57,760 --> 01:00:00,400 Speaker 1: have to make people afraid they'll be a boycott. And 970 01:00:00,440 --> 01:00:02,880 Speaker 1: those you were saying, oh but buck, let's you know what, 971 01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:05,720 Speaker 1: we gotta dig more into the Sydney Powell thing or whatever, 972 01:00:05,800 --> 01:00:08,040 Speaker 1: I'm sitting here saying, look, I want to do all 973 01:00:08,080 --> 01:00:12,960 Speaker 1: of that. If they control the information flow, it doesn't matter. 974 01:00:14,080 --> 01:00:17,400 Speaker 1: This is the fight that is hanging above all these 975 01:00:17,400 --> 01:00:19,880 Speaker 1: other political fights we're having. If they can shut this down, 976 01:00:19,920 --> 01:00:22,560 Speaker 1: if they can censor you, they can stop people like 977 01:00:22,640 --> 01:00:26,440 Speaker 1: me from telling you the truth about things. What arguments 978 01:00:26,440 --> 01:00:28,320 Speaker 1: do you think we're going to win. We're in a 979 01:00:28,440 --> 01:00:31,040 Speaker 1: very divided country. There are a lot of Democrats. It 980 01:00:31,080 --> 01:00:33,560 Speaker 1: doesn't matter how bad, it doesn't matter what happens. We 981 01:00:33,560 --> 01:00:35,920 Speaker 1: could set it all new COVID record next week and 982 01:00:35,960 --> 01:00:38,360 Speaker 1: the week after and the week after, and they'll say, oh, well, 983 01:00:38,800 --> 01:00:40,840 Speaker 1: you know you're not locking down enough. And if the 984 01:00:40,840 --> 01:00:42,560 Speaker 1: cases go down or the next two weeks, guess what 985 01:00:42,600 --> 01:00:45,280 Speaker 1: they'll say, See, you lockdowns are great, they work really well. 986 01:00:46,080 --> 01:00:50,080 Speaker 1: And then what happens you stop and then what happened? Right? 987 01:00:50,120 --> 01:00:52,360 Speaker 1: I mean, this is not allowed, not allowed to even 988 01:00:52,360 --> 01:00:54,120 Speaker 1: think about it, not allowed to have a real discussion 989 01:00:54,160 --> 01:00:59,600 Speaker 1: about it. People are suffering because of this. People are 990 01:00:59,600 --> 01:01:05,360 Speaker 1: suffering because of bad policy, because of capricious and arbitrary 991 01:01:05,400 --> 01:01:08,200 Speaker 1: decision making by government officials who are going outside the 992 01:01:08,240 --> 01:01:11,840 Speaker 1: normal legislative process that checks and balances the accountability for 993 01:01:11,880 --> 01:01:15,560 Speaker 1: what's happening that's been wiped away. And you have people 994 01:01:15,600 --> 01:01:19,240 Speaker 1: like this, like this woman who is a restaurant owner, 995 01:01:20,400 --> 01:01:23,800 Speaker 1: a restaurant owner in California who put out a video 996 01:01:23,800 --> 01:01:26,160 Speaker 1: when viral, and I want to just narrate a little bit, 997 01:01:26,160 --> 01:01:28,840 Speaker 1: then you'll hear her voice. But she goes outside of 998 01:01:28,880 --> 01:01:34,760 Speaker 1: her restaurant. She spent eighty thousand dollars, a lot of 999 01:01:34,800 --> 01:01:36,760 Speaker 1: money for a small business, for a restaurant. I mean, 1000 01:01:36,760 --> 01:01:43,480 Speaker 1: I'm you know, spent eighty thousand dollars creating a really functional, cozy, 1001 01:01:44,160 --> 01:01:51,080 Speaker 1: substantial outdoor dining area in California. And after doing that, 1002 01:01:51,160 --> 01:01:53,680 Speaker 1: and she obeyed them a she bent the knee. And 1003 01:01:53,680 --> 01:01:55,600 Speaker 1: by the way, I don't say that disparagingly, but you know, 1004 01:01:55,680 --> 01:01:58,520 Speaker 1: she said, okay, government, I'll do what you say here. 1005 01:01:58,560 --> 01:02:00,520 Speaker 1: I'm trying to be a good citizen, you know. And 1006 01:02:00,680 --> 01:02:02,480 Speaker 1: she's expecting a little pad on the head from the 1007 01:02:02,520 --> 01:02:05,720 Speaker 1: governance is all right, we're gonna we're taking eighty thousand 1008 01:02:05,720 --> 01:02:09,120 Speaker 1: dollars out of your pocket. But once you've done that, 1009 01:02:09,960 --> 01:02:13,360 Speaker 1: we'll let you operate and sell your food to customers, 1010 01:02:13,640 --> 01:02:16,400 Speaker 1: but it has to be outside. And then they turn around, 1011 01:02:16,400 --> 01:02:20,080 Speaker 1: they say oh, I'm sorry. Too many cases, too many cases. 1012 01:02:20,080 --> 01:02:23,680 Speaker 1: So you're not allowed to open your restaurant anymore. You're 1013 01:02:23,720 --> 01:02:28,000 Speaker 1: you're not allowed to do this. And she walks outside 1014 01:02:28,200 --> 01:02:31,240 Speaker 1: and her outdoor dining and this is why it's it's 1015 01:02:31,240 --> 01:02:33,400 Speaker 1: so I mean, you can't you know, you can't see 1016 01:02:33,440 --> 01:02:35,600 Speaker 1: this if you're listening to this on a podcast or radio. 1017 01:02:36,120 --> 01:02:40,040 Speaker 1: But her outdoor dining area is right next to another 1018 01:02:40,960 --> 01:02:46,200 Speaker 1: outdoor dining area which is set up exclusively for the 1019 01:02:46,320 --> 01:02:51,000 Speaker 1: use of a movie production, which is considerably larger, more chairs, 1020 01:02:51,040 --> 01:02:54,320 Speaker 1: more tables, everything, movie production. It's sort of catering tables 1021 01:02:54,640 --> 01:02:58,840 Speaker 1: because Hollywood needs to be able to do its business. 1022 01:02:59,040 --> 01:03:01,080 Speaker 1: And if you're the mayor, or if you're Garcetti in 1023 01:03:01,120 --> 01:03:06,160 Speaker 1: Los Angeles, you gotta keep Hollywood happy. So her business 1024 01:03:06,240 --> 01:03:09,920 Speaker 1: goes up in smoke. She's out eighty thousand dollars. She 1025 01:03:10,040 --> 01:03:12,920 Speaker 1: may go bankrupt. She has to fire all of her employees. 1026 01:03:12,920 --> 01:03:15,960 Speaker 1: Remember there's no PPP anymore, there's no money coming, there's nothing. 1027 01:03:16,920 --> 01:03:19,560 Speaker 1: Because Nancy Pelosi wanted to make a political point. These 1028 01:03:19,600 --> 01:03:24,440 Speaker 1: democrats are vicious, vicious. It's gonna get worse too, if 1029 01:03:24,440 --> 01:03:27,760 Speaker 1: they actually managed to seize power with Biden here but 1030 01:03:28,360 --> 01:03:31,440 Speaker 1: here she is in her own words describing what she 1031 01:03:31,560 --> 01:03:35,840 Speaker 1: sees outside of her restaurant. This woman Marsden play it. 1032 01:03:37,000 --> 01:03:39,600 Speaker 1: So this is my place, the Pineapple Hill Grill in Saloon. 1033 01:03:39,720 --> 01:03:41,400 Speaker 1: If you go to my page, you can see all 1034 01:03:41,400 --> 01:03:44,280 Speaker 1: the work I did for outdoor dining, for tables being 1035 01:03:44,320 --> 01:03:47,440 Speaker 1: seven feet apart. And I come in today because I'm 1036 01:03:47,560 --> 01:03:51,280 Speaker 1: organizing a protest, and I came in to get stuff 1037 01:03:51,360 --> 01:03:56,520 Speaker 1: for that, and I walk into my parking lot and 1038 01:03:56,680 --> 01:04:06,600 Speaker 1: obviously Mayor Garcetti has approved this, has approved this being 1039 01:04:06,680 --> 01:04:11,760 Speaker 1: set up for, this being set up for for a 1040 01:04:11,840 --> 01:04:16,680 Speaker 1: movie company. I'm losing everything, everything I own is being 1041 01:04:16,720 --> 01:04:19,240 Speaker 1: taken away from me, and they set up a movie 1042 01:04:19,280 --> 01:04:23,680 Speaker 1: company right next to my outdoor patio, which is right 1043 01:04:23,720 --> 01:04:29,360 Speaker 1: over here. And people wonder why I'm protesting and why 1044 01:04:29,560 --> 01:04:33,479 Speaker 1: I have had enough. They have not given us money 1045 01:04:33,520 --> 01:04:36,160 Speaker 1: and they have shut us down. We cannot survive. My 1046 01:04:36,240 --> 01:04:41,800 Speaker 1: staff cannot survive. Look at this, tell me that this 1047 01:04:41,960 --> 01:04:46,360 Speaker 1: is dangerous. But right next to me as a slap 1048 01:04:46,400 --> 01:04:50,800 Speaker 1: in my face. It is is a slap in her face. 1049 01:04:51,920 --> 01:04:55,320 Speaker 1: And these morons in our media, and they're disgusting, who 1050 01:04:55,400 --> 01:04:58,360 Speaker 1: don't give more voice to women and men like this 1051 01:04:58,920 --> 01:05:00,760 Speaker 1: who have done everything there's a opposed to do, and 1052 01:05:00,800 --> 01:05:04,560 Speaker 1: then just based on the arbitrary whim of government power, 1053 01:05:05,520 --> 01:05:09,840 Speaker 1: they're ruined. Why should she accept that based on what? 1054 01:05:11,000 --> 01:05:12,840 Speaker 1: Let me tell you this. Do you think anyone from 1055 01:05:12,880 --> 01:05:14,720 Speaker 1: the government is going to come to help her? Does 1056 01:05:14,760 --> 01:05:17,480 Speaker 1: anyone feel sorry for her when her business goes under, 1057 01:05:17,560 --> 01:05:19,760 Speaker 1: when she can't make the rent payments for this business, 1058 01:05:20,200 --> 01:05:24,800 Speaker 1: when her life savings are drained? What do they think happens? No, 1059 01:05:25,440 --> 01:05:28,120 Speaker 1: the movie industry producers, the people that are connected that 1060 01:05:29,560 --> 01:05:33,360 Speaker 1: Garcetti and others like him, other Democrats who are particularly 1061 01:05:33,400 --> 01:05:35,520 Speaker 1: odious when it comes to this, all across the country. 1062 01:05:36,320 --> 01:05:39,920 Speaker 1: The ones who are connected, they're fine, They'll be fine. 1063 01:05:40,000 --> 01:05:42,919 Speaker 1: Does anyone feel sorry for this woman? In three months 1064 01:05:43,000 --> 01:05:45,160 Speaker 1: or six months, with the pandemic recedes as it will 1065 01:05:45,680 --> 01:05:48,280 Speaker 1: and she's bankrupt. No, it's sorry, start all over again. 1066 01:05:49,040 --> 01:05:55,280 Speaker 1: Your livelihood, your future was the cost of doing business. Sorry, 1067 01:05:55,920 --> 01:05:58,520 Speaker 1: that's the way that it had to be. Because doctor 1068 01:05:58,560 --> 01:06:03,280 Speaker 1: Fauci says, so oh no, not the movie producers. They're important. Sorry, 1069 01:06:03,440 --> 01:06:15,080 Speaker 1: Too bad for you. Bucks Off spreading freedom coast to coast. 1070 01:06:15,920 --> 01:06:22,280 Speaker 1: This is the best of the Buck Sexton Show. Does 1071 01:06:22,320 --> 01:06:25,400 Speaker 1: anyone even want to try to answer this question. Why 1072 01:06:25,520 --> 01:06:29,920 Speaker 1: is outdoor dining band in California? I want to know, 1073 01:06:30,080 --> 01:06:33,440 Speaker 1: Show me the study, show me where outdoor dining is 1074 01:06:33,480 --> 01:06:36,960 Speaker 1: a major transmission risk, And keep in mind there are 1075 01:06:37,000 --> 01:06:39,840 Speaker 1: activities that are allowed. Still there are plenty of things 1076 01:06:39,920 --> 01:06:41,880 Speaker 1: you can still do in California. I mean, I should 1077 01:06:42,000 --> 01:06:43,800 Speaker 1: say plenty. There are a bunch of things you can 1078 01:06:43,800 --> 01:06:46,920 Speaker 1: still do in California that are far riskier than outdoor dining, 1079 01:06:47,480 --> 01:06:51,640 Speaker 1: like go into a home depot or a lowse go 1080 01:06:51,680 --> 01:06:56,240 Speaker 1: into a costco. That's totally fine. Retail is open at 1081 01:06:56,360 --> 01:07:00,280 Speaker 1: limited capacity, but retail is open. Huh, we're Do you 1082 01:07:00,320 --> 01:07:03,520 Speaker 1: think you're safer being in a place where they limit 1083 01:07:03,520 --> 01:07:05,720 Speaker 1: the number of people indoors but there are still people 1084 01:07:05,760 --> 01:07:09,880 Speaker 1: indoors or being out in open air? Do they think? 1085 01:07:09,920 --> 01:07:11,680 Speaker 1: Do you think the virus is going to fly at 1086 01:07:11,720 --> 01:07:16,240 Speaker 1: you with open air flow? It's like a heat seeking missile. 1087 01:07:16,240 --> 01:07:19,600 Speaker 1: It's going to come at you from twenty feet away outdoors. 1088 01:07:20,880 --> 01:07:22,600 Speaker 1: I'm just I'm wondering. Does anyone want to try to 1089 01:07:22,600 --> 01:07:24,920 Speaker 1: answer this. No, they have no one. It's just be quiet, 1090 01:07:24,960 --> 01:07:28,320 Speaker 1: do what you're told. And I've had enough of be quiet, 1091 01:07:28,320 --> 01:07:30,720 Speaker 1: do what you're told I think this is wrong. I 1092 01:07:30,760 --> 01:07:33,760 Speaker 1: think this needs to stop. And I'm not the only one, obviously. 1093 01:07:33,760 --> 01:07:36,080 Speaker 1: It's why there's these protests happen thing. That's why people 1094 01:07:36,080 --> 01:07:39,440 Speaker 1: are speaking out against this. Kevin O'Leary, mister wonderful. I 1095 01:07:39,480 --> 01:07:42,200 Speaker 1: gotta say I've always I like Kevin O'Leary. I've interviewed him, 1096 01:07:42,240 --> 01:07:45,880 Speaker 1: a medium, good dude. Here he is asking the obvious questions. 1097 01:07:45,920 --> 01:07:49,920 Speaker 1: Play nine. How is it possible when I've spent sixty 1098 01:07:50,000 --> 01:07:53,400 Speaker 1: eighty thousand dollars on the back of the restaurant and 1099 01:07:53,520 --> 01:07:56,320 Speaker 1: the front of the restaurant to provide the seats and 1100 01:07:56,480 --> 01:08:01,440 Speaker 1: the heaters, and complied with the city ortance and was 1101 01:08:02,040 --> 01:08:05,240 Speaker 1: just about to reopen. No tents. This is not tented. 1102 01:08:05,280 --> 01:08:09,840 Speaker 1: This is outside with air flowing. I'm shut down, And 1103 01:08:10,080 --> 01:08:13,400 Speaker 1: right across the street is a big box retailer with 1104 01:08:13,520 --> 01:08:18,479 Speaker 1: food services, vending machines and open service courts inside the store, 1105 01:08:18,760 --> 01:08:23,680 Speaker 1: providing food inside of a big box walls around it. 1106 01:08:23,800 --> 01:08:25,920 Speaker 1: And you could argue to me that they have HEPA filters. 1107 01:08:25,960 --> 01:08:28,360 Speaker 1: I know with certainty they don't. So you're telling me 1108 01:08:28,400 --> 01:08:32,000 Speaker 1: the viral load in the outside of my restaurant is 1109 01:08:32,120 --> 01:08:35,080 Speaker 1: higher than the viral load inside of the big box 1110 01:08:35,080 --> 01:08:38,960 Speaker 1: which is enclosed. That's ridiculous, And there's no science claim 1111 01:08:39,000 --> 01:08:42,240 Speaker 1: on this. You people are making a comment of science statements. 1112 01:08:42,360 --> 01:08:47,240 Speaker 1: How can outside be less safe than inside? You heard 1113 01:08:47,240 --> 01:08:49,280 Speaker 1: God leave himself on your own air just moments ago 1114 01:08:49,360 --> 01:08:52,439 Speaker 1: talking about eating and restaurants outside with a mask on. 1115 01:08:52,920 --> 01:08:54,760 Speaker 1: So now I, as a share will have to go 1116 01:08:54,800 --> 01:08:58,160 Speaker 1: bankrupt and all the employees I have have to be 1117 01:08:58,240 --> 01:09:02,600 Speaker 1: laid off for the third time. Fine, this is totally unfair. 1118 01:09:02,800 --> 01:09:05,559 Speaker 1: This is just Los Angeles. Kevin, by the way, it's 1119 01:09:05,600 --> 01:09:07,200 Speaker 1: not just La How come I can be open to 1120 01:09:07,240 --> 01:09:11,080 Speaker 1: Miami in the same chain. I would love to see 1121 01:09:11,720 --> 01:09:15,360 Speaker 1: Fauci trying to explain that one. I know he's not 1122 01:09:15,400 --> 01:09:18,160 Speaker 1: making the decision. It's Los Angeles. Why can't he tell 1123 01:09:18,200 --> 01:09:20,599 Speaker 1: them not to do this? He'll weigh in on things 1124 01:09:20,640 --> 01:09:23,559 Speaker 1: whenever he feels like it. Dude, is to that open schools, 1125 01:09:23,600 --> 01:09:27,920 Speaker 1: don't open schools wearing masks, Wash your hands, don't breathe 1126 01:09:27,960 --> 01:09:30,880 Speaker 1: too much. This guy's got lots of opinions about what 1127 01:09:30,880 --> 01:09:33,320 Speaker 1: the public should be doing all the time. Why isn't 1128 01:09:33,320 --> 01:09:35,120 Speaker 1: he telling me? But but didn't have an opinion about 1129 01:09:35,160 --> 01:09:36,960 Speaker 1: how school should be open, even though all the data 1130 01:09:37,000 --> 01:09:41,000 Speaker 1: always always not only support of that proved that schools 1131 01:09:41,400 --> 01:09:45,679 Speaker 1: were effectively zero risk to children and not only zeros 1132 01:09:45,680 --> 01:09:48,160 Speaker 1: to children, but that children don't transmit this very easily 1133 01:09:48,160 --> 01:09:51,360 Speaker 1: at all to adults. If at all that's what we 1134 01:09:51,400 --> 01:09:53,960 Speaker 1: actually have seen in schools, Fouchi wouldn't speak up on that. 1135 01:09:54,040 --> 01:09:57,120 Speaker 1: Why doesn't want doesn't want the Democrats and the teachers' 1136 01:09:57,200 --> 01:09:59,960 Speaker 1: unions not to like him. Oh but he's non part 1137 01:10:00,120 --> 01:10:03,679 Speaker 1: If you think Fauci's not partisan, honestly, you know, somebody 1138 01:10:03,680 --> 01:10:06,599 Speaker 1: should go watch MSNBC because they're just not smart enough 1139 01:10:06,600 --> 01:10:08,960 Speaker 1: to handle reality. Does anyone have an answer to what 1140 01:10:09,280 --> 01:10:12,160 Speaker 1: mister wonderful Kevin O'Leary is talking about there? No, they 1141 01:10:12,160 --> 01:10:14,759 Speaker 1: do not. They don't even pretend to have an answer. 1142 01:10:14,800 --> 01:10:18,240 Speaker 1: They have no idea, right, They just say, well, that's 1143 01:10:18,240 --> 01:10:24,040 Speaker 1: what the people in charge are saying. Really really, yeah, 1144 01:10:24,080 --> 01:10:27,120 Speaker 1: this is where we are not even offered up any answers. 1145 01:10:27,640 --> 01:10:29,800 Speaker 1: I wonder if Kevin O'Leary will get if you put 1146 01:10:29,840 --> 01:10:31,759 Speaker 1: some of this stuff out there, if he'll get shadow 1147 01:10:31,760 --> 01:10:34,439 Speaker 1: banned on social media. By the way, the social media 1148 01:10:34,439 --> 01:10:37,200 Speaker 1: companies are doing great, aren't they? During this Amazon's doing 1149 01:10:37,240 --> 01:10:39,960 Speaker 1: great Washington Post doing great. All these a lot of 1150 01:10:40,000 --> 01:10:43,759 Speaker 1: these companies, they're not laying off people. They're not worried. 1151 01:10:44,560 --> 01:10:47,759 Speaker 1: Who's voice listen all of this, the small business owner, 1152 01:10:47,840 --> 01:10:52,920 Speaker 1: the independent American, the worker, the person who's still driving 1153 01:10:53,040 --> 01:10:56,439 Speaker 1: his truck, or the you know, the woman who's still 1154 01:10:56,680 --> 01:11:00,360 Speaker 1: at the grocery store, at the pharmacy. They're still doing 1155 01:11:00,400 --> 01:11:08,200 Speaker 1: their job. You're in the Freedom Hut. This is the 1156 01:11:08,320 --> 01:11:11,920 Speaker 1: Buck Sexton Show. Buck took the day off, but don't worry. 1157 01:11:12,120 --> 01:11:15,400 Speaker 1: We've still got your covered. This is the best of 1158 01:11:15,439 --> 01:11:21,960 Speaker 1: the Buck Sexton Show. What are we really seeing when 1159 01:11:22,000 --> 01:11:24,559 Speaker 1: it comes to the results of these lockdowns? And what 1160 01:11:24,640 --> 01:11:28,080 Speaker 1: has the data told us so far about so many 1161 01:11:28,080 --> 01:11:31,320 Speaker 1: of these expert predictions when it comes to COVID nineteen 1162 01:11:31,360 --> 01:11:34,120 Speaker 1: and how we're supposed to handle it. We're joined out 1163 01:11:34,120 --> 01:11:37,920 Speaker 1: by Phil Kirpin. He's a syndicated columnist and also the 1164 01:11:38,160 --> 01:11:42,320 Speaker 1: president of American Commitment. Phil, thanks for making the time 1165 01:11:42,560 --> 01:11:46,600 Speaker 1: great with Let's talk about schools first. What is the 1166 01:11:46,720 --> 01:11:52,120 Speaker 1: data tell us about school lockdowns at this stage? Or 1167 01:11:52,160 --> 01:11:54,720 Speaker 1: I should just say school closures. It's not even really lockdowns. 1168 01:11:54,720 --> 01:12:00,320 Speaker 1: Closing schools and doing only virtual learning. Probably the single 1169 01:12:00,360 --> 01:12:03,920 Speaker 1: biggest policy mistake of the entire year, which is hanging 1170 01:12:03,920 --> 01:12:05,839 Speaker 1: a lot because we've had a lot of policy mistakes. 1171 01:12:06,439 --> 01:12:10,200 Speaker 1: It's interesting. The original CDC guidance on schools was really balanced, 1172 01:12:10,200 --> 01:12:12,240 Speaker 1: and I think anyone who actually read it and paid 1173 01:12:12,240 --> 01:12:15,040 Speaker 1: attention would not have closed schools. And yet we had 1174 01:12:15,040 --> 01:12:17,719 Speaker 1: sort of this panic contagion that swept the whole country 1175 01:12:17,720 --> 01:12:19,280 Speaker 1: and all the schools were closed, and a lot of 1176 01:12:19,280 --> 01:12:23,400 Speaker 1: them never reopened or opened on very limited part time schedules. 1177 01:12:23,880 --> 01:12:26,080 Speaker 1: And it's interesting. There was a study in the Journal 1178 01:12:26,080 --> 01:12:28,439 Speaker 1: of the American Medical Association a couple of weeks ago. 1179 01:12:28,479 --> 01:12:31,680 Speaker 1: They looked at just the impact of elementary school closures 1180 01:12:31,680 --> 01:12:34,160 Speaker 1: and just for two months in the spring, and they 1181 01:12:34,200 --> 01:12:38,960 Speaker 1: calculated five million years of life lost from two months 1182 01:12:39,400 --> 01:12:42,040 Speaker 1: of elementary school closures, which is probably more years of 1183 01:12:42,040 --> 01:12:44,680 Speaker 1: life lost than we're going to have from the coronavirus. 1184 01:12:45,720 --> 01:12:50,000 Speaker 1: There's a very strong relationship between educational attainment and not 1185 01:12:50,080 --> 01:12:53,920 Speaker 1: just income, but life expectancy as well. The difference between 1186 01:12:53,960 --> 01:12:56,320 Speaker 1: a high school graduate and a high school dropout, on 1187 01:12:56,400 --> 01:13:00,920 Speaker 1: average is about five years of life expectancy. The online 1188 01:13:01,080 --> 01:13:03,240 Speaker 1: learning is not working for a lot of people. For 1189 01:13:03,280 --> 01:13:06,240 Speaker 1: some kids, it's fine some of them are doing okay, 1190 01:13:06,240 --> 01:13:08,200 Speaker 1: but a lot of kids are failing. A lot more 1191 01:13:08,240 --> 01:13:12,680 Speaker 1: kids than ever failed with traditional school, and that has 1192 01:13:12,840 --> 01:13:17,559 Speaker 1: major long term consequences, both economic and health consequences. And 1193 01:13:17,640 --> 01:13:22,080 Speaker 1: so we're essentially imposing enormous harms and enormous enormous costs 1194 01:13:22,640 --> 01:13:27,800 Speaker 1: on children societally, even though children are atists near zero risks, 1195 01:13:28,040 --> 01:13:31,320 Speaker 1: certainly much lower risk with coronavirus than they are from 1196 01:13:31,320 --> 01:13:34,400 Speaker 1: seasonal flu, which is five to ten times more deadly 1197 01:13:34,439 --> 01:13:37,680 Speaker 1: for children than coronavirus, and that we tolerate and that 1198 01:13:37,760 --> 01:13:40,760 Speaker 1: we think is a perfectly acceptable little level of risk. 1199 01:13:40,800 --> 01:13:44,200 Speaker 1: And so children have really been the biggest losers in 1200 01:13:44,240 --> 01:13:48,639 Speaker 1: our policy response to COVID. It feels increasingly feel like 1201 01:13:48,880 --> 01:13:53,320 Speaker 1: the elimination of any tolerable risk when it comes to 1202 01:13:53,360 --> 01:13:56,400 Speaker 1: COVID has been at the center of a lot of 1203 01:13:56,439 --> 01:14:00,599 Speaker 1: the policies that we see, and restaurant in New York 1204 01:14:00,640 --> 01:14:03,880 Speaker 1: City have just been closed as of this week, Contact 1205 01:14:04,000 --> 01:14:07,240 Speaker 1: Racing showed that they were responsible for they believe about 1206 01:14:07,360 --> 01:14:11,439 Speaker 1: one percent of the spread. So what are what have 1207 01:14:11,520 --> 01:14:15,360 Speaker 1: we learned about? Where is the virus spreading in New 1208 01:14:15,439 --> 01:14:17,800 Speaker 1: York and it's and its environs? Because that's a that's 1209 01:14:17,840 --> 01:14:19,759 Speaker 1: also a good proxy for where it would be spreading 1210 01:14:19,760 --> 01:14:23,120 Speaker 1: in other densely populated parts of the country. Well, the 1211 01:14:23,720 --> 01:14:25,960 Speaker 1: data the New York published, and it's interesting because they 1212 01:14:26,040 --> 01:14:28,840 Speaker 1: published you know, very very similar data back in May 1213 01:14:28,960 --> 01:14:31,160 Speaker 1: and then ignored it, and now they're finding the same 1214 01:14:31,200 --> 01:14:34,080 Speaker 1: thing again, which is almost all of the spread is 1215 01:14:34,160 --> 01:14:37,320 Speaker 1: inside of homes, inside of households. And you know, New 1216 01:14:37,360 --> 01:14:40,600 Speaker 1: York of course has a lot of high density residential, 1217 01:14:40,640 --> 01:14:43,479 Speaker 1: a lot of multi family, you know, apartment buildings, and 1218 01:14:44,240 --> 01:14:46,760 Speaker 1: so you know, maybe a little bit different there than 1219 01:14:46,840 --> 01:14:49,400 Speaker 1: some other places, but by and large, I think it's 1220 01:14:49,439 --> 01:14:51,680 Speaker 1: now pretty clear from the contact tracing we've seen all 1221 01:14:51,680 --> 01:14:54,960 Speaker 1: over the country that there's not a lot of spread 1222 01:14:55,040 --> 01:14:57,960 Speaker 1: in places like restaurants and retail, and so that the 1223 01:14:58,120 --> 01:15:00,920 Speaker 1: spread tends to happen sort of the one to one 1224 01:15:00,960 --> 01:15:04,320 Speaker 1: person to person spread tends to happen inside of homes. 1225 01:15:04,360 --> 01:15:07,240 Speaker 1: Now we also have this other problem of these occasional 1226 01:15:07,360 --> 01:15:10,000 Speaker 1: sort of super spread or events which are hard to predict, 1227 01:15:10,040 --> 01:15:14,000 Speaker 1: and we still don't really know why some small percentage 1228 01:15:14,000 --> 01:15:16,200 Speaker 1: of people with this virus and it's only maybe ten 1229 01:15:16,280 --> 01:15:19,760 Speaker 1: percent something like that seemed to be responsible for you know, 1230 01:15:19,800 --> 01:15:21,600 Speaker 1: a lot of the spread. And so you know, if 1231 01:15:21,600 --> 01:15:23,920 Speaker 1: you've got an AD, the average person gets this virus 1232 01:15:23,960 --> 01:15:27,200 Speaker 1: infects zero or one other people. And then but then 1233 01:15:27,200 --> 01:15:29,519 Speaker 1: you've got this small group that affects tons of people. 1234 01:15:29,560 --> 01:15:31,679 Speaker 1: And you know, we still don't really know what makes 1235 01:15:31,720 --> 01:15:35,120 Speaker 1: them different and why they tend to infect lots of people. 1236 01:15:35,160 --> 01:15:38,000 Speaker 1: And I wish with more research we're going into that 1237 01:15:38,080 --> 01:15:40,920 Speaker 1: because that would be very useful to sort of identify 1238 01:15:41,000 --> 01:15:44,200 Speaker 1: and be able to predict what those characteristics are. But 1239 01:15:44,360 --> 01:15:46,640 Speaker 1: by and large, what we saw in the New York 1240 01:15:46,720 --> 01:15:48,720 Speaker 1: hit and it was remarkable because Governor Cuomo came out 1241 01:15:48,720 --> 01:15:51,240 Speaker 1: and he said, look, here's the data. Seventy five percent 1242 01:15:51,320 --> 01:15:54,000 Speaker 1: of transmission is in homes, one percent is in restaurants. 1243 01:15:54,120 --> 01:15:57,800 Speaker 1: So I'm closing restaurants. And you know, then he said, well, 1244 01:15:57,840 --> 01:15:59,640 Speaker 1: you know, because it's something we can do. You know, 1245 01:15:59,640 --> 01:16:02,160 Speaker 1: we can't close homes, we can close restaurants. But of course, 1246 01:16:02,439 --> 01:16:05,240 Speaker 1: just because you can do something doesn't mean that it's 1247 01:16:05,280 --> 01:16:07,360 Speaker 1: actually you know, he said, you know, it's only a 1248 01:16:07,360 --> 01:16:09,439 Speaker 1: small difference, but it's something we can do. You know, 1249 01:16:09,479 --> 01:16:12,000 Speaker 1: but if you look at the data, but it's more 1250 01:16:12,080 --> 01:16:15,559 Speaker 1: likely to be a negative difference than a positive difference, 1251 01:16:15,600 --> 01:16:18,320 Speaker 1: because if you say, you know, we're going to push 1252 01:16:18,520 --> 01:16:21,240 Speaker 1: gatherings and holiday gatherings and dinners and all this kind 1253 01:16:21,240 --> 01:16:23,599 Speaker 1: of stuff out of restaurants where people are being very 1254 01:16:23,640 --> 01:16:26,880 Speaker 1: strict with their distancing and their hygiene and all this stuff, 1255 01:16:26,920 --> 01:16:29,200 Speaker 1: we're gonna push them out. We're gonna close. Now, they're 1256 01:16:29,200 --> 01:16:31,400 Speaker 1: gonna take place in homes instead. You know, some of 1257 01:16:31,400 --> 01:16:33,000 Speaker 1: them won't take place at all, but a lot of 1258 01:16:33,040 --> 01:16:36,000 Speaker 1: them will take place in homes instead without any of 1259 01:16:36,040 --> 01:16:39,759 Speaker 1: those precautions. And so in my judgment, the restaurant closure 1260 01:16:39,800 --> 01:16:43,280 Speaker 1: is not only economically devastating, but it's more likely to 1261 01:16:43,360 --> 01:16:46,200 Speaker 1: increase transmission than to decrease it because people are going 1262 01:16:46,240 --> 01:16:48,680 Speaker 1: to meet in home settings instead. Well, this was a 1263 01:16:48,680 --> 01:16:52,000 Speaker 1: concern also last winter or late late in the winter, 1264 01:16:52,560 --> 01:16:55,400 Speaker 1: when we recognize that New York City was facing this 1265 01:16:55,600 --> 01:16:58,800 Speaker 1: first big wave of COVID cases. They went into the 1266 01:17:00,000 --> 01:17:02,479 Speaker 1: fifteen days to stop the spread and the stay at 1267 01:17:02,479 --> 01:17:04,519 Speaker 1: home orders, and a lot of people are saying, well, 1268 01:17:04,520 --> 01:17:07,439 Speaker 1: hold on a second, We've had this virus is all 1269 01:17:07,479 --> 01:17:10,080 Speaker 1: over the place already, and now what you're going to 1270 01:17:10,160 --> 01:17:12,479 Speaker 1: be doing by shutting down the schools, shutting down anywhere 1271 01:17:12,479 --> 01:17:15,000 Speaker 1: for people to places for people to go, is you 1272 01:17:15,080 --> 01:17:19,920 Speaker 1: might actually be forcing and you mentioned multigenerational, multifamily homes, 1273 01:17:20,000 --> 01:17:23,000 Speaker 1: dense housing, which is all over New York City where 1274 01:17:23,040 --> 01:17:26,559 Speaker 1: people it's very difficult to really stay far away from others. 1275 01:17:26,960 --> 01:17:29,200 Speaker 1: It may have effectively sent everyone home to infect their 1276 01:17:29,200 --> 01:17:33,160 Speaker 1: family members inadvertently, but that was always a concern. Yeah, 1277 01:17:33,200 --> 01:17:35,960 Speaker 1: I think that that almost certainly was a big part 1278 01:17:35,960 --> 01:17:38,280 Speaker 1: of what happened in New York back in the spring. Now, 1279 01:17:38,280 --> 01:17:40,479 Speaker 1: the good thing you've got going for you now in 1280 01:17:40,600 --> 01:17:43,639 Speaker 1: New York is, you know, so many people have already 1281 01:17:43,640 --> 01:17:46,160 Speaker 1: had it. You have a very high level of community immunity, 1282 01:17:46,200 --> 01:17:48,439 Speaker 1: probably higher than anywhere else in the United States. And 1283 01:17:48,479 --> 01:17:50,960 Speaker 1: so if you look at the New York state numbers, 1284 01:17:51,200 --> 01:17:53,679 Speaker 1: it's now mostly outside of the New York City area 1285 01:17:53,680 --> 01:17:55,160 Speaker 1: and sort of the rest of the state is kind 1286 01:17:55,160 --> 01:17:58,760 Speaker 1: of catching up New York City. If you look at 1287 01:17:58,800 --> 01:18:02,519 Speaker 1: the hospital utilization in the emergency room data, you've actually 1288 01:18:02,600 --> 01:18:07,400 Speaker 1: got lower emergency room visits for respiratory illnesses and influenza 1289 01:18:07,439 --> 01:18:10,960 Speaker 1: like illness now than you know, any of the previous 1290 01:18:10,960 --> 01:18:13,759 Speaker 1: five years this time of year. So you're actually lower 1291 01:18:13,800 --> 01:18:17,280 Speaker 1: than normal in New York City. I think because you've 1292 01:18:17,280 --> 01:18:19,960 Speaker 1: got a lot of community immunity to COVID, and because 1293 01:18:20,000 --> 01:18:22,360 Speaker 1: the other factor, which is happening everywhere in the world 1294 01:18:22,439 --> 01:18:26,320 Speaker 1: right now with very little attention paid to it, there's 1295 01:18:26,360 --> 01:18:28,960 Speaker 1: almost no flu activity this year. And we don't know 1296 01:18:29,000 --> 01:18:32,400 Speaker 1: if that's because you know, the policy measures like the 1297 01:18:32,439 --> 01:18:35,519 Speaker 1: masks and the distancing and school closures are somehow more 1298 01:18:35,560 --> 01:18:38,080 Speaker 1: effective for flu than they are for COVID, or if 1299 01:18:38,120 --> 01:18:41,040 Speaker 1: the virus itself has somehow disrupted. We don't really know 1300 01:18:41,120 --> 01:18:44,160 Speaker 1: why it's the case, but it's a remarkable story because 1301 01:18:44,280 --> 01:18:46,280 Speaker 1: remember the experts that we're gonna have this twindemic flu 1302 01:18:46,360 --> 01:18:47,880 Speaker 1: is going to hit at the same time as COVID, 1303 01:18:48,080 --> 01:18:51,320 Speaker 1: all the hospital's gonna be overwhelmed. Instead, we've got, you know, 1304 01:18:51,360 --> 01:18:54,240 Speaker 1: the mildest flu season since at least twenty fifteen, and 1305 01:18:54,320 --> 01:18:56,320 Speaker 1: maybe you know, we'll see if it doesn't take off 1306 01:18:56,320 --> 01:18:59,439 Speaker 1: at all, maybe the mildest flu season on records. So 1307 01:18:59,479 --> 01:19:03,559 Speaker 1: you've got really under utilization of hospitals in a place 1308 01:19:03,600 --> 01:19:06,320 Speaker 1: like New York City that has relatively little COVID activity 1309 01:19:06,400 --> 01:19:09,280 Speaker 1: because we're not seeing any fluid. I pulled some numbers 1310 01:19:09,360 --> 01:19:11,880 Speaker 1: last week. I'm glad you brought that up. Phil I'm 1311 01:19:11,920 --> 01:19:16,200 Speaker 1: speaking of Phil Kirpin, syndicated columnist, journalist, and at Phil 1312 01:19:16,680 --> 01:19:19,800 Speaker 1: I looked at the initial Now, now I had someone, right, 1313 01:19:19,840 --> 01:19:22,760 Speaker 1: I've had people right into me since to say we're 1314 01:19:22,800 --> 01:19:26,160 Speaker 1: not really testing for flu the way that we normally do. 1315 01:19:26,240 --> 01:19:28,360 Speaker 1: And to that, I say, okay, because I am asking. 1316 01:19:28,360 --> 01:19:30,040 Speaker 1: You know, so sometimes people are asking a question and 1317 01:19:30,080 --> 01:19:32,759 Speaker 1: they're really trying to push a conclusion. I'm actually asking 1318 01:19:32,760 --> 01:19:36,400 Speaker 1: the question. But I pose to the audience. I said, 1319 01:19:37,120 --> 01:19:39,840 Speaker 1: you know, the initial data on the CDC website for 1320 01:19:39,880 --> 01:19:43,080 Speaker 1: the first week of December, and and I think it 1321 01:19:43,120 --> 01:19:45,080 Speaker 1: was it was low for what they actually had for COVID. 1322 01:19:45,120 --> 01:19:47,120 Speaker 1: So this was initial data. So the numbers are clearly 1323 01:19:47,120 --> 01:19:49,080 Speaker 1: going to go up, and you know, maybe it went 1324 01:19:49,160 --> 01:19:51,320 Speaker 1: from you know, maybe I might even go up by 1325 01:19:51,320 --> 01:19:53,040 Speaker 1: a factor of ten let's say, right, I mean, it 1326 01:19:53,040 --> 01:19:55,479 Speaker 1: could go up substantially. But the initial data said that 1327 01:19:55,600 --> 01:20:00,680 Speaker 1: they had something like two thousand plus COVID debts in 1328 01:20:00,720 --> 01:20:03,519 Speaker 1: the first week of December that we're officially COVID, you know, 1329 01:20:03,560 --> 01:20:07,759 Speaker 1: meaning that this is the way they had three three 1330 01:20:07,880 --> 01:20:12,040 Speaker 1: from the flu. Now I can understand more COVID I 1331 01:20:12,040 --> 01:20:15,400 Speaker 1: got under but there's clearly something going on here. I 1332 01:20:15,439 --> 01:20:19,000 Speaker 1: mean you mentioned some of the possibilities. There's no way 1333 01:20:19,040 --> 01:20:22,040 Speaker 1: that you have almost a factor of a thousand more 1334 01:20:22,240 --> 01:20:24,880 Speaker 1: COVID debts than you do flu debts, given what we 1335 01:20:24,920 --> 01:20:28,439 Speaker 1: would see in a normal flu season. That's not possible. Well, 1336 01:20:29,400 --> 01:20:33,120 Speaker 1: you know, flue peaks are more often in January and 1337 01:20:33,120 --> 01:20:35,679 Speaker 1: February than they are in November and December time, sometimes 1338 01:20:35,680 --> 01:20:38,479 Speaker 1: you have in earlier flu seasons. So you know a 1339 01:20:38,560 --> 01:20:40,439 Speaker 1: lot of people say, well, you know, flu's not here yet, 1340 01:20:40,479 --> 01:20:43,400 Speaker 1: it's still coming. That might be true, but we've never 1341 01:20:43,439 --> 01:20:46,120 Speaker 1: seen levels this low. We've never seen levels this low. 1342 01:20:46,160 --> 01:20:48,800 Speaker 1: And if you look at the CDC flu testing data, 1343 01:20:49,360 --> 01:20:54,840 Speaker 1: it's down about ninety five almost one hundred percent some weeks, 1344 01:20:54,840 --> 01:20:56,920 Speaker 1: and we've had like ninety eight percent reduction from the 1345 01:20:56,960 --> 01:20:59,960 Speaker 1: five year average. And it's not that we're not testing. 1346 01:21:00,120 --> 01:21:04,080 Speaker 1: The flu tests are actually higher than the five year average, 1347 01:21:04,080 --> 01:21:06,719 Speaker 1: and they're actually at a record high. At the number 1348 01:21:06,720 --> 01:21:08,960 Speaker 1: of flu tests at the CDC tracks, and the CDC 1349 01:21:09,080 --> 01:21:11,880 Speaker 1: only tracks clinical labs and public health labs, so they 1350 01:21:11,880 --> 01:21:14,000 Speaker 1: don't track, you know, like the rapid tests in the 1351 01:21:14,080 --> 01:21:16,360 Speaker 1: doctor's office. That's not in the stats, So they only 1352 01:21:16,400 --> 01:21:18,360 Speaker 1: have thousands of tests. They don't have millions of tests, 1353 01:21:19,000 --> 01:21:22,320 Speaker 1: but it's still it indicates that I think one of 1354 01:21:22,400 --> 01:21:27,360 Speaker 1: three things is going on buck Either we've got the 1355 01:21:27,479 --> 01:21:30,320 Speaker 1: public health measures that are being implemented for some reason, 1356 01:21:30,439 --> 01:21:32,680 Speaker 1: or very effective at stopping flu, even though they don't 1357 01:21:32,720 --> 01:21:36,160 Speaker 1: seem to be. They're not effective at stopping covid right right, 1358 01:21:36,240 --> 01:21:37,920 Speaker 1: So that's a little hard to believe, although a lot 1359 01:21:37,920 --> 01:21:40,679 Speaker 1: of people have been saying that or somehow the covid 1360 01:21:40,800 --> 01:21:44,200 Speaker 1: virus itself disrupts the flu virus, which is possible. There's 1361 01:21:44,200 --> 01:21:47,599 Speaker 1: a phenomenon called viral interference, and this was actually how 1362 01:21:47,640 --> 01:21:49,760 Speaker 1: swine flu ended back in two thousand and nine. The 1363 01:21:49,840 --> 01:21:52,559 Speaker 1: rhinovirus came in and it sort of just knocked it out, 1364 01:21:52,640 --> 01:21:55,040 Speaker 1: you know, people got that instead, and it sort of 1365 01:21:55,120 --> 01:21:56,760 Speaker 1: knocked it out, and there was some hope. There was 1366 01:21:56,760 --> 01:21:59,240 Speaker 1: actually an article, you know, months ago, hoping that flu 1367 01:21:59,320 --> 01:22:02,120 Speaker 1: season would come in and sort of disrupt COVID. That 1368 01:22:02,240 --> 01:22:04,920 Speaker 1: definitely didn't happen, but maybe the opposite happened. Maybe COVID 1369 01:22:04,920 --> 01:22:07,720 Speaker 1: disrupted flu, and you know, once you get COVID, your 1370 01:22:08,120 --> 01:22:11,439 Speaker 1: mucus build up blocks flu, or some mechanism causes viral 1371 01:22:11,520 --> 01:22:14,640 Speaker 1: interference or the third possibility is that we've got some 1372 01:22:14,680 --> 01:22:17,880 Speaker 1: sort of a data artifact where maybe you know, we're 1373 01:22:17,960 --> 01:22:20,599 Speaker 1: get so many false positives for COVID that people get flu, 1374 01:22:20,680 --> 01:22:23,240 Speaker 1: they test false positive, it gets into the stats as 1375 01:22:23,240 --> 01:22:27,559 Speaker 1: of COVID case instead of a flu case. Maybe there's 1376 01:22:27,560 --> 01:22:29,600 Speaker 1: a timing issue where even though we have lots of 1377 01:22:29,600 --> 01:22:32,400 Speaker 1: flu tests, people are only taking the flu test after 1378 01:22:32,439 --> 01:22:34,559 Speaker 1: they get a negative COVID test back, and by then 1379 01:22:34,680 --> 01:22:37,840 Speaker 1: flu is not detectable anymore. Some people have suggested that, 1380 01:22:37,920 --> 01:22:41,320 Speaker 1: so they're basically there are three possibilities, in my judgment, 1381 01:22:41,360 --> 01:22:46,160 Speaker 1: Either the policies are actually stopping flu somehow there's actual 1382 01:22:46,360 --> 01:22:48,639 Speaker 1: viral interference, or we've got some sort of a data 1383 01:22:48,720 --> 01:22:51,000 Speaker 1: artifact based on the sequence and the way that we're 1384 01:22:51,000 --> 01:22:53,960 Speaker 1: doing the testing that's causing the flu cases to be 1385 01:22:54,080 --> 01:22:56,479 Speaker 1: mischaracterized as COVID. So it's got to be one of 1386 01:22:56,479 --> 01:22:58,960 Speaker 1: those three things. I'm not sure which it is, or 1387 01:22:59,000 --> 01:23:02,439 Speaker 1: if it's a combination, but I wish there were a 1388 01:23:02,439 --> 01:23:05,599 Speaker 1: lot more curiosity about this, you know, among the media 1389 01:23:05,640 --> 01:23:08,280 Speaker 1: and among the public health officials, because it's a pretty 1390 01:23:08,280 --> 01:23:11,519 Speaker 1: remarkable phenomenon. Talk to me about this, and we're speaking 1391 01:23:11,520 --> 01:23:14,919 Speaker 1: of Phil Kirpin. He is the president of American Commitment, 1392 01:23:14,920 --> 01:23:18,680 Speaker 1: and he's a syndicated columnist. Phil I see all these 1393 01:23:18,760 --> 01:23:20,479 Speaker 1: charts and I've I've looked at some of the data myself, 1394 01:23:20,520 --> 01:23:24,920 Speaker 1: and they show mask mandates going into place on a timeline. 1395 01:23:25,560 --> 01:23:29,200 Speaker 1: And you know, for a state, right whether it's California 1396 01:23:29,360 --> 01:23:32,360 Speaker 1: or Hawaii or New York or wherever mask mandate goes 1397 01:23:32,400 --> 01:23:36,040 Speaker 1: into effect, and then you have countless charts where you 1398 01:23:36,080 --> 01:23:38,960 Speaker 1: just give it time and the case is just skyrocket 1399 01:23:39,160 --> 01:23:42,400 Speaker 1: after the mandate goes into effect. What can we just 1400 01:23:42,439 --> 01:23:46,200 Speaker 1: tell from the numbers about this as a policy? Can 1401 01:23:46,280 --> 01:23:49,320 Speaker 1: can we draw any conclusions or you can you draw 1402 01:23:49,360 --> 01:23:53,320 Speaker 1: any conclusions from what we're seeing. I don't think masks 1403 01:23:53,360 --> 01:23:57,600 Speaker 1: have any effect mask mandates. You know, we should we 1404 01:23:57,640 --> 01:24:00,559 Speaker 1: should differentiate the two masked mandates and masks are not 1405 01:24:00,640 --> 01:24:03,960 Speaker 1: necessarily synonymous, because just because the mandates in an area 1406 01:24:03,960 --> 01:24:06,519 Speaker 1: doesn't mean everyone's wearing them, or wearing them properly, or 1407 01:24:06,520 --> 01:24:09,280 Speaker 1: handling them properly and so forth. You know, the reason 1408 01:24:09,439 --> 01:24:14,160 Speaker 1: historically we've never recommended masks outside of medical settings is 1409 01:24:14,240 --> 01:24:17,439 Speaker 1: it's actually really hard to use a mask properly, to 1410 01:24:17,479 --> 01:24:19,680 Speaker 1: make sure you never touch the outside to remove it. 1411 01:24:20,320 --> 01:24:22,599 Speaker 1: Carefully and throw it out or wash it without ever 1412 01:24:22,640 --> 01:24:25,360 Speaker 1: touching the outside. And you know, that's why we've never 1413 01:24:25,400 --> 01:24:28,160 Speaker 1: recommended them in non medical settings, because even if they 1414 01:24:28,200 --> 01:24:31,040 Speaker 1: work sort of conceptually in sort of a lab test, 1415 01:24:31,400 --> 01:24:34,200 Speaker 1: we never had confidence that people would use them correctly 1416 01:24:34,240 --> 01:24:37,439 Speaker 1: in a way that actually could be beneficial. And I 1417 01:24:37,479 --> 01:24:39,680 Speaker 1: think that based on the data that I'm seeing, you know, 1418 01:24:39,800 --> 01:24:42,479 Speaker 1: it's sort of you could go either way on whether 1419 01:24:42,520 --> 01:24:44,559 Speaker 1: they work in an idealized setting. There is a lot 1420 01:24:44,600 --> 01:24:46,839 Speaker 1: of lab data showing that they probably would be beneficial 1421 01:24:46,880 --> 01:24:50,240 Speaker 1: if they were used sort of perfectly, but in practice, 1422 01:24:50,640 --> 01:24:53,240 Speaker 1: I don't see any evidence that they've been beneficial at all. 1423 01:24:53,320 --> 01:24:56,360 Speaker 1: And you know, there there cherry picking that goes on, 1424 01:24:56,640 --> 01:24:58,799 Speaker 1: And the CDC had a couple of very low quality 1425 01:24:58,800 --> 01:25:02,240 Speaker 1: studies looking at Arizona in Kansas, where they essentially just 1426 01:25:02,320 --> 01:25:06,360 Speaker 1: cherry picked their end dates and their comparators and said, look, 1427 01:25:06,640 --> 01:25:10,280 Speaker 1: masks to the reason we saw a decline. And you know, 1428 01:25:10,320 --> 01:25:14,280 Speaker 1: if you look at kind of what's happened seasonally, you 1429 01:25:14,400 --> 01:25:18,040 Speaker 1: have essentially identical patterns in places with and without mask mandates, 1430 01:25:18,080 --> 01:25:21,080 Speaker 1: if they've got the same geography in the same sort 1431 01:25:21,120 --> 01:25:23,479 Speaker 1: of time of year. And so I don't think that 1432 01:25:23,600 --> 01:25:25,760 Speaker 1: they make a difference one way or the other. You 1433 01:25:25,800 --> 01:25:29,240 Speaker 1: could argue some have suggested they may actually be harmful. 1434 01:25:29,320 --> 01:25:31,960 Speaker 1: The reason that the normatic states have all avoided the 1435 01:25:32,040 --> 01:25:35,599 Speaker 1: mask mandates, you know, Sweden, Denmark, Norway and so forth, 1436 01:25:35,600 --> 01:25:38,280 Speaker 1: as they say, look, you know, the mask doesn't really 1437 01:25:38,280 --> 01:25:41,080 Speaker 1: do that much, especially the way a typical person handles it, 1438 01:25:41,200 --> 01:25:43,000 Speaker 1: is not well trained, the way as a surgeon would be, 1439 01:25:43,000 --> 01:25:45,320 Speaker 1: and so forth. But if you tell people that the 1440 01:25:45,360 --> 01:25:48,479 Speaker 1: mask protects you, then suddenly they're going to stand right 1441 01:25:48,479 --> 01:25:50,920 Speaker 1: next to each other for prolonged periods of time with 1442 01:25:51,160 --> 01:25:52,880 Speaker 1: masks on, and they're going to think they don't need 1443 01:25:52,960 --> 01:25:55,120 Speaker 1: to keep their distance. And oh and I'm sure people 1444 01:25:55,120 --> 01:25:56,880 Speaker 1: that have mild code they might go out of the 1445 01:25:56,960 --> 01:25:59,680 Speaker 1: house even if they're feeling sick because mask on and 1446 01:25:59,760 --> 01:26:01,760 Speaker 1: so the you know, a false belief that a mask 1447 01:26:01,800 --> 01:26:03,840 Speaker 1: will protect you might actually put you at more risk. 1448 01:26:03,920 --> 01:26:05,360 Speaker 1: This is what I've been saying, that you're gonna have 1449 01:26:05,360 --> 01:26:07,200 Speaker 1: people and say, well, maybe I got COVID, but my 1450 01:26:07,200 --> 01:26:09,360 Speaker 1: symptoms aren't that bad and I'm wearing a mask, so 1451 01:26:09,400 --> 01:26:11,360 Speaker 1: I'm good to go. It's like, no, this is a 1452 01:26:11,360 --> 01:26:14,240 Speaker 1: bad idea. There's a bad idea, but I'm I could 1453 01:26:14,240 --> 01:26:16,519 Speaker 1: guarantee that's been happening all over the country, all over 1454 01:26:16,560 --> 01:26:19,559 Speaker 1: the world. Phil, Look, I appreciate that you're willing to 1455 01:26:19,560 --> 01:26:21,400 Speaker 1: take take a look at the data here on the 1456 01:26:21,479 --> 01:26:24,360 Speaker 1: numbers and come to conclusions that you know aren't right 1457 01:26:24,400 --> 01:26:26,479 Speaker 1: in line with the consensus. I feel like this is 1458 01:26:27,240 --> 01:26:29,479 Speaker 1: the brainwashing that has gone on on this issue is 1459 01:26:29,640 --> 01:26:31,439 Speaker 1: unlike anything else I've ever seen in my life. I 1460 01:26:31,439 --> 01:26:33,439 Speaker 1: just want to give you the last word. Yeah, I mean, 1461 01:26:33,479 --> 01:26:35,479 Speaker 1: probably the most frightening thing of the past year, Buck 1462 01:26:35,520 --> 01:26:39,080 Speaker 1: has been the extent to which people not only accepted 1463 01:26:39,360 --> 01:26:42,840 Speaker 1: all of these various arbitrary government decrees, but demanded them 1464 01:26:42,840 --> 01:26:45,920 Speaker 1: and welcomed them and cheered them on. And I think 1465 01:26:45,960 --> 01:26:48,639 Speaker 1: the extent to which a large portion of the public 1466 01:26:49,800 --> 01:26:54,439 Speaker 1: supports the heavy handed government policy response is probably the 1467 01:26:54,439 --> 01:26:57,800 Speaker 1: most frightening takeaway of this whole thing. And you know, 1468 01:26:57,840 --> 01:26:59,760 Speaker 1: it means we could we could see this again every 1469 01:26:59,800 --> 01:27:02,960 Speaker 1: time there's a disease. So I am concerned about that, 1470 01:27:03,040 --> 01:27:06,639 Speaker 1: and I share your you know, I share your sentiments 1471 01:27:06,640 --> 01:27:10,040 Speaker 1: on that. Bill Kirpin, President of American Commitment. Phil really 1472 01:27:10,080 --> 01:27:21,920 Speaker 1: appreciate it. Talk to you soon, all right, Come on, liberty, truth, 1473 01:27:22,360 --> 01:27:26,240 Speaker 1: and great hair. You're listening to the best of the 1474 01:27:26,280 --> 01:27:32,280 Speaker 1: Butt Sexton show. Well, I think the party is uncertain 1475 01:27:32,280 --> 01:27:34,120 Speaker 1: of the course that we're going to take going forward. 1476 01:27:34,520 --> 01:27:37,439 Speaker 1: The principles that have long been the hallmark of my 1477 01:27:37,520 --> 01:27:40,040 Speaker 1: party are very much in question, which is, do we 1478 01:27:40,080 --> 01:27:42,920 Speaker 1: believe in balancing the budget? Do we believe in standing 1479 01:27:43,000 --> 01:27:46,080 Speaker 1: up to people like Kim Jong gun and Vladimir Putin? 1480 01:27:46,360 --> 01:27:49,599 Speaker 1: Are we committed to the principle that character counts? These 1481 01:27:49,640 --> 01:27:51,040 Speaker 1: are all things that I think we're going to have 1482 01:27:51,080 --> 01:27:53,000 Speaker 1: to decide over the coming years. I can tell you 1483 01:27:53,040 --> 01:27:55,080 Speaker 1: this much. Mid Romney's not going to be the leader 1484 01:27:55,080 --> 01:27:57,080 Speaker 1: of the Republican Party. That's for damn sure. Mid Romney 1485 01:27:57,120 --> 01:27:58,920 Speaker 1: is a Democrat now, I'm not going to forget that 1486 01:27:58,960 --> 01:28:02,519 Speaker 1: one anytime soon. He should be ashamed of his vote 1487 01:28:03,080 --> 01:28:06,920 Speaker 1: for the president to be removed during that sham impeachment. 1488 01:28:07,200 --> 01:28:11,040 Speaker 1: An impeachment about a president having a phone call where 1489 01:28:11,080 --> 01:28:14,160 Speaker 1: he asked about what we know is an entirely legitimate 1490 01:28:14,160 --> 01:28:19,120 Speaker 1: issue Biden family corruption, which is quite real. There's a 1491 01:28:19,160 --> 01:28:23,080 Speaker 1: federal investigation going on around it. You know, they may 1492 01:28:23,120 --> 01:28:25,799 Speaker 1: not like that the Trumpster was using some bare knockle 1493 01:28:25,840 --> 01:28:28,960 Speaker 1: politics here, but he was within his rights to do it. 1494 01:28:28,960 --> 01:28:31,559 Speaker 1: It was a fair ask. No action was taken on 1495 01:28:31,600 --> 01:28:34,799 Speaker 1: it anyway, and mid Romney voted to have the president 1496 01:28:34,880 --> 01:28:38,360 Speaker 1: removed from office based on that. Now, let's not ever 1497 01:28:38,400 --> 01:28:42,240 Speaker 1: forget this. There are a lot of these never trumpers. 1498 01:28:42,280 --> 01:28:45,479 Speaker 1: There are a lot of these stealth Democrats running around 1499 01:28:45,960 --> 01:28:47,280 Speaker 1: who were now all of a sudden going to be 1500 01:28:47,320 --> 01:28:51,640 Speaker 1: talking about how much they care about protecting life and 1501 01:28:51,680 --> 01:28:53,240 Speaker 1: the pro life movement. They're gonna be talking about the 1502 01:28:53,280 --> 01:28:56,840 Speaker 1: constitution and limited government and a strong national defense and 1503 01:28:56,920 --> 01:28:59,040 Speaker 1: all these things. They think they were going to turn 1504 01:28:59,080 --> 01:29:01,559 Speaker 1: the clock back to, you know, two thousand and six 1505 01:29:01,640 --> 01:29:06,160 Speaker 1: or something, and the Romneyite McCain, you know, mccinnian view 1506 01:29:07,120 --> 01:29:09,720 Speaker 1: of the Republican Party is going to be what we 1507 01:29:09,800 --> 01:29:12,120 Speaker 1: go back to. And I think that they're in for 1508 01:29:12,320 --> 01:29:15,920 Speaker 1: a brute awakening. It's not going to happen, and it 1509 01:29:15,960 --> 01:29:19,360 Speaker 1: should not happen. Buck took the day off, but don't worry. 1510 01:29:19,520 --> 01:29:22,640 Speaker 1: We've still got your Coverard. This is the best of 1511 01:29:22,640 --> 01:29:29,240 Speaker 1: the Buck Sexton Show right now for some good news, 1512 01:29:29,280 --> 01:29:33,160 Speaker 1: although in a way it's also troubling that it came 1513 01:29:33,160 --> 01:29:39,160 Speaker 1: to this. I told you that General Flynn was pardoned 1514 01:29:39,240 --> 01:29:41,240 Speaker 1: by the president. You'd no doubt I've seen or heard 1515 01:29:41,280 --> 01:29:43,559 Speaker 1: that a lot of places. It was pretty big news 1516 01:29:43,560 --> 01:29:48,400 Speaker 1: when it happened. And in response to that, you had 1517 01:29:48,560 --> 01:29:55,720 Speaker 1: Judge Emmett Sullivan produce a thirty four page opinion from 1518 01:29:55,760 --> 01:29:59,799 Speaker 1: the from the Federal Bench that shows you what finals 1519 01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:04,840 Speaker 1: stage Trump't derangement syndrome. Looks like. General Flynn is an 1520 01:30:04,840 --> 01:30:08,320 Speaker 1: innocent man. They ruined this guy, and they used the 1521 01:30:08,479 --> 01:30:11,760 Speaker 1: law to settle political scores against him. They ruined this guy, 1522 01:30:12,200 --> 01:30:17,920 Speaker 1: or have tried to based on lies, deception, the destruction 1523 01:30:18,240 --> 01:30:23,519 Speaker 1: of his constitutional rights. It was all politicized. It was 1524 01:30:23,560 --> 01:30:26,960 Speaker 1: a partisan hit. That's what they did to General Flynn. 1525 01:30:27,000 --> 01:30:32,559 Speaker 1: We all know it. This is very clear. But it 1526 01:30:32,600 --> 01:30:35,120 Speaker 1: took a pardon from the President of the United States 1527 01:30:35,360 --> 01:30:39,400 Speaker 1: to get a federal judge to stop going after him. 1528 01:30:40,200 --> 01:30:43,760 Speaker 1: And then he wrote a thirty four page thirty four 1529 01:30:43,840 --> 01:30:45,920 Speaker 1: page opinion from the bench where he talked about how 1530 01:30:45,960 --> 01:30:48,200 Speaker 1: Flynn is guilty and the administration shouldn't have done this, 1531 01:30:48,240 --> 01:30:50,120 Speaker 1: and this is you know, yes, they have the power, 1532 01:30:50,160 --> 01:30:52,479 Speaker 1: but this is a miscarriage of justice. Like a lunatic, 1533 01:30:52,960 --> 01:30:59,960 Speaker 1: he continued a prosecution by judge after the Department of Justice, 1534 01:31:00,439 --> 01:31:04,320 Speaker 1: which is the prosecutorial arm of the federal government, dropped 1535 01:31:04,360 --> 01:31:07,280 Speaker 1: the case and told him we never should have brought 1536 01:31:07,320 --> 01:31:10,760 Speaker 1: this case. But he thinks he's respecting the system by 1537 01:31:10,840 --> 01:31:13,840 Speaker 1: trashing it because he doesn't like a decision that they made. 1538 01:31:13,880 --> 01:31:17,040 Speaker 1: It was their decision. What is this guy doing? Yes, 1539 01:31:17,720 --> 01:31:20,479 Speaker 1: General Flynn is no longer in criminal jeopardy and he 1540 01:31:20,520 --> 01:31:24,720 Speaker 1: has been officially pardoned. But we also need to know 1541 01:31:24,760 --> 01:31:28,000 Speaker 1: that Judge Emmett Sullivan is a Trump deranged lunatic and 1542 01:31:28,080 --> 01:31:30,600 Speaker 1: he should be and I mean this removed from the 1543 01:31:30,640 --> 01:31:37,280 Speaker 1: federal bench and disbarred forthwith right away. That's what should happen. 1544 01:31:37,600 --> 01:31:40,599 Speaker 1: This guy is scary. Do you think if you're a 1545 01:31:40,640 --> 01:31:43,680 Speaker 1: person known in public life as a conservative, as a 1546 01:31:43,680 --> 01:31:45,160 Speaker 1: Trump supporter, do you think that you could get a 1547 01:31:45,160 --> 01:31:50,160 Speaker 1: fair trial and Judge Emmett Sullivan's courtroom. This guy's a 1548 01:31:50,160 --> 01:31:52,479 Speaker 1: federal circuit judge in DC. It's a pretty big deal. 1549 01:31:52,840 --> 01:31:55,040 Speaker 1: You think you get a fair trial? Absolutely not. This 1550 01:31:55,040 --> 01:31:58,559 Speaker 1: guy's a disgrace, a disgrace to the judiciary. But he 1551 01:31:58,600 --> 01:32:03,640 Speaker 1: shows you what we're up against. This was unheard of 1552 01:32:04,520 --> 01:32:07,640 Speaker 1: when the when the DJ says the judge doesn't get 1553 01:32:07,680 --> 01:32:09,400 Speaker 1: to pick somebody. Does a judge get to say, you 1554 01:32:09,439 --> 01:32:11,200 Speaker 1: know what, I don't like this guy. I'm gonna bring 1555 01:32:11,240 --> 01:32:13,920 Speaker 1: him into my courtroom and prosecute him. It's basically what 1556 01:32:13,960 --> 01:32:16,719 Speaker 1: they did to Judge Sullivan, I mean, to General Flynn, 1557 01:32:18,840 --> 01:32:24,040 Speaker 1: completely insane, but I'm very so so it's good that 1558 01:32:24,240 --> 01:32:26,479 Speaker 1: General Flynn is no longer in criminal jeopardy, but they 1559 01:32:27,200 --> 01:32:32,839 Speaker 1: dragged him through four years of this madness, four years 1560 01:32:33,160 --> 01:32:39,840 Speaker 1: of this insanity for what, for what? To make an 1561 01:32:39,840 --> 01:32:45,519 Speaker 1: example of him? And unfortunately that still stands. Do you 1562 01:32:45,560 --> 01:32:50,160 Speaker 1: think that now people might have second thoughts, especially to 1563 01:32:50,240 --> 01:32:55,360 Speaker 1: support Trump if he's leaving that Oval office in January, 1564 01:32:55,479 --> 01:32:59,200 Speaker 1: which I'll leave it to you. I'll leave the percentages 1565 01:32:59,240 --> 01:33:04,320 Speaker 1: to you, but certainly is a possibility. I think we 1566 01:33:04,320 --> 01:33:06,120 Speaker 1: could say it's a probability. I've been saying that for 1567 01:33:06,160 --> 01:33:09,960 Speaker 1: weeks if that happens. Do you think that people are 1568 01:33:09,960 --> 01:33:12,479 Speaker 1: going to be a little bit concerned about what could 1569 01:33:12,520 --> 01:33:16,559 Speaker 1: happen to them if they go forward and support Donald J. Trump? 1570 01:33:16,800 --> 01:33:19,720 Speaker 1: You think that may be something to consider her? As 1571 01:33:19,760 --> 01:33:22,600 Speaker 1: I do? As I do, I think there are going 1572 01:33:22,640 --> 01:33:25,679 Speaker 1: to be a lot of people who say, oh, what 1573 01:33:26,160 --> 01:33:30,760 Speaker 1: are my risks here? What's going to happen. Here is 1574 01:33:30,800 --> 01:33:36,040 Speaker 1: the Attorney General for New York State, Leticia James, who 1575 01:33:36,080 --> 01:33:43,600 Speaker 1: is straight up threatening like a mob boss, threatening prosecution 1576 01:33:44,400 --> 01:33:48,559 Speaker 1: of Donald Trump by her state when he leaves office. 1577 01:33:49,479 --> 01:33:57,240 Speaker 1: Play seven. It's important to understand he's pardoned from federal crimes, 1578 01:33:57,560 --> 01:34:00,960 Speaker 1: but he's not pardoned from state crimes. Year I introduced 1579 01:34:00,960 --> 01:34:03,800 Speaker 1: a bill in the state legislature which would close the 1580 01:34:03,840 --> 01:34:07,080 Speaker 1: pardon loophole so that individual such as the President of 1581 01:34:07,120 --> 01:34:10,720 Speaker 1: the United States would not evade justice. It's important that 1582 01:34:10,760 --> 01:34:14,400 Speaker 1: we have this check on presidential powers, and in the legislature, 1583 01:34:14,479 --> 01:34:17,320 Speaker 1: the state legislature. I'm so happy they passed that bill 1584 01:34:17,520 --> 01:34:19,040 Speaker 1: and it is now the law in the state of 1585 01:34:19,120 --> 01:34:23,360 Speaker 1: New York. President Trump cannot avoid justice in the great 1586 01:34:23,360 --> 01:34:25,760 Speaker 1: state of New York. People who asked me, should the 1587 01:34:25,800 --> 01:34:31,519 Speaker 1: president pardon himself? The answer is yes. What's what happens 1588 01:34:31,560 --> 01:34:33,760 Speaker 1: if he pardons, If he writes a preemptive pardon for 1589 01:34:33,840 --> 01:34:38,360 Speaker 1: himself and his family members, think about this? What what? 1590 01:34:38,360 --> 01:34:41,519 Speaker 1: What's the downside? Oh, everyone's gonna scream, Oh, look what 1591 01:34:41,560 --> 01:34:44,559 Speaker 1: he did, He's a criminal. They're saying that. Anyway, there's 1592 01:34:44,560 --> 01:34:46,680 Speaker 1: no fair minded person who looks at Trump and look 1593 01:34:46,840 --> 01:34:49,559 Speaker 1: looks at what's going on right now and says, yeah, 1594 01:34:49,640 --> 01:34:53,519 Speaker 1: he'll he'll be left alone in private life. They'll they'll 1595 01:34:53,520 --> 01:34:57,120 Speaker 1: back all. Don't let him go, you know, go lead 1596 01:34:57,400 --> 01:35:03,479 Speaker 1: a quiet family life with his kids and grandkids. And nope, no, 1597 01:35:03,880 --> 01:35:06,879 Speaker 1: we chanted lock her up. And then Hillary evaded justice 1598 01:35:06,960 --> 01:35:10,240 Speaker 1: even though she did break the law. They will go 1599 01:35:10,320 --> 01:35:13,320 Speaker 1: after Trump and they'll fabricate crimes. That's how they play 1600 01:35:13,360 --> 01:35:17,800 Speaker 1: the game. We play, you know, two hand touch. We're 1601 01:35:17,840 --> 01:35:22,920 Speaker 1: playing flag football here in politics, they are putting on 1602 01:35:23,080 --> 01:35:25,400 Speaker 1: brass knuckles and hitting us in the back of the 1603 01:35:25,439 --> 01:35:28,120 Speaker 1: head when the ref is not looking. That's how they 1604 01:35:28,160 --> 01:35:31,360 Speaker 1: play the game. Unfortunately, I think we're going to get 1605 01:35:31,400 --> 01:35:36,719 Speaker 1: another another lesson than that here very soon. They're gonna 1606 01:35:36,760 --> 01:35:40,479 Speaker 1: they're gonna go after people with prosecutions. They're gonna go 1607 01:35:40,520 --> 01:35:43,839 Speaker 1: after people with the irs. Oh but they talk of unity, 1608 01:35:44,200 --> 01:35:48,920 Speaker 1: remember that in their little self congratulatory delusion. We just 1609 01:35:48,960 --> 01:35:54,960 Speaker 1: want the American people to unify. But remember New York 1610 01:35:55,000 --> 01:35:57,639 Speaker 1: state charges. It is true, you can only pardon yourself 1611 01:35:57,640 --> 01:36:01,240 Speaker 1: from federal charges you got. You cannot clear yourself, even 1612 01:36:01,280 --> 01:36:06,040 Speaker 1: as president, from state charges. And nor could he clear 1613 01:36:06,040 --> 01:36:09,040 Speaker 1: his family members from that. And They've been talking about 1614 01:36:09,040 --> 01:36:11,080 Speaker 1: this for a long time now, you might say, buck, 1615 01:36:11,160 --> 01:36:15,200 Speaker 1: but can they really get him? I don't know. Can 1616 01:36:15,200 --> 01:36:18,960 Speaker 1: they fabricate a crime they fabricated Russia collusion. But even 1617 01:36:19,000 --> 01:36:22,040 Speaker 1: if they can't convict Trump or any of his family members, 1618 01:36:22,600 --> 01:36:26,439 Speaker 1: they can certainly investigate them, hound them, go after them, 1619 01:36:27,360 --> 01:36:31,160 Speaker 1: harass them. I think Ivanka Trump just what was it 1620 01:36:31,200 --> 01:36:35,200 Speaker 1: a week ago? Was was deposed having to do with 1621 01:36:35,640 --> 01:36:41,200 Speaker 1: inauguration spending? What? Yeah, do you think there'll be any? 1622 01:36:41,400 --> 01:36:42,760 Speaker 1: They ask is, do you think they'll actually be any 1623 01:36:42,800 --> 01:36:47,639 Speaker 1: federal criminal charges about the inauguration spending? No? No, not 1624 01:36:47,640 --> 01:36:49,680 Speaker 1: not against Ivanka, not against any of the drums. Not 1625 01:36:49,720 --> 01:36:53,120 Speaker 1: gonna happen. But why well, they've got somebody, the DJ 1626 01:36:53,720 --> 01:36:57,080 Speaker 1: wants to harass them. It's like it's auditioning for a bigger, 1627 01:36:57,120 --> 01:36:59,479 Speaker 1: better role on a Biden administration. This is what they do. 1628 01:37:01,160 --> 01:37:03,720 Speaker 1: It's it's appalling. Look Trump is and I want to 1629 01:37:03,720 --> 01:37:05,679 Speaker 1: be very clear, Trump is not giving up the fight. 1630 01:37:07,120 --> 01:37:09,479 Speaker 1: He's He's staying in this to the absolute very enemy. 1631 01:37:09,520 --> 01:37:13,120 Speaker 1: I think he's gonna fight this until the day that 1632 01:37:13,360 --> 01:37:17,439 Speaker 1: the moving trucks arrive. And God bless him. Why not? 1633 01:37:18,760 --> 01:37:22,639 Speaker 1: Why why pretend that everything is fine here, And why 1634 01:37:22,720 --> 01:37:26,000 Speaker 1: pretend that the Biden administration in any way that these 1635 01:37:26,040 --> 01:37:29,720 Speaker 1: Democrats have acted in good faith. They put forward this 1636 01:37:30,400 --> 01:37:34,880 Speaker 1: quasi senile clown, and we're all supposed to say, yeah, 1637 01:37:34,960 --> 01:37:37,599 Speaker 1: you guys have the best interests of the nation at heart. Sure, 1638 01:37:38,520 --> 01:37:41,120 Speaker 1: I don't think so. Not gonna happen with me. I mean, 1639 01:37:41,160 --> 01:37:45,080 Speaker 1: I can't speak for anybody else. Here's the president though, 1640 01:37:45,160 --> 01:37:47,439 Speaker 1: just just letting everybody know I'm doing a little bit 1641 01:37:47,439 --> 01:37:50,360 Speaker 1: of trolling Play eleven. The next administration will be the 1642 01:37:50,400 --> 01:37:52,880 Speaker 1: one ultimately that implements a lot of the distribution of 1643 01:37:52,880 --> 01:37:55,320 Speaker 1: this vaccine and will oversee much of the future of 1644 01:37:55,400 --> 01:37:58,840 Speaker 1: the way operation goes forward. Why not include members of 1645 01:37:58,840 --> 01:38:02,080 Speaker 1: the Bible Transition as part of this summit that you're 1646 01:38:02,080 --> 01:38:03,880 Speaker 1: hosting today. Well, we're gonna have to see who the 1647 01:38:03,920 --> 01:38:08,519 Speaker 1: next administration is because we won in those swing states 1648 01:38:08,600 --> 01:38:11,880 Speaker 1: and there was terrible things that went on. So we're 1649 01:38:11,880 --> 01:38:14,000 Speaker 1: gonna have to see who the next administration is. But 1650 01:38:14,360 --> 01:38:18,880 Speaker 1: whichever the next administration is will really benefit by what 1651 01:38:18,920 --> 01:38:22,879 Speaker 1: we've been able to do with this incredible science. The doctors, 1652 01:38:23,120 --> 01:38:26,280 Speaker 1: all of the people that came up, the lab technicians, 1653 01:38:25,760 --> 01:38:28,960 Speaker 1: the work that's been done is incredible and it will 1654 01:38:29,000 --> 01:38:32,320 Speaker 1: be incredible for the next administration, and hopefully the next 1655 01:38:32,360 --> 01:38:38,360 Speaker 1: administration will be the Trump administration. We'll see. But I 1656 01:38:38,479 --> 01:38:42,320 Speaker 1: like that he still goads them and he's showing them 1657 01:38:42,360 --> 01:38:45,400 Speaker 1: he's not backing down one bit. They think they can 1658 01:38:45,479 --> 01:38:50,400 Speaker 1: tame Trump as he's in these weeks of December before 1659 01:38:50,439 --> 01:38:54,599 Speaker 1: what could be a presidential transition, and they're wrong. He's 1660 01:38:54,640 --> 01:38:56,519 Speaker 1: not going to back down. He's not going to give up. 1661 01:38:57,439 --> 01:39:00,240 Speaker 1: And what you see now is more and more reason 1662 01:39:00,320 --> 01:39:02,680 Speaker 1: to continue on with that fight. Even even if we 1663 01:39:02,720 --> 01:39:07,000 Speaker 1: don't win. We stay unified and we show the other 1664 01:39:07,040 --> 01:39:12,880 Speaker 1: side that we got we got some backbone, we can 1665 01:39:12,920 --> 01:39:16,760 Speaker 1: dig in. We're willing to take this all the way, 1666 01:39:16,800 --> 01:39:24,120 Speaker 1: to take this to the map, Bucks off spreading freedom 1667 01:39:24,320 --> 01:39:27,599 Speaker 1: coast to coast. This is the best of the Buck 1668 01:39:27,680 --> 01:39:35,720 Speaker 1: Sexton show. You know, what the President isn't doing is 1669 01:39:35,760 --> 01:39:38,479 Speaker 1: telling anybody telling America's what they should do in the meantime, 1670 01:39:38,520 --> 01:39:42,080 Speaker 1: while we're waiting for this vaccine he distributed to general population, 1671 01:39:42,160 --> 01:39:45,320 Speaker 1: He's not communicating the message about what they should do 1672 01:39:45,439 --> 01:39:47,640 Speaker 1: to curve the spread of this. That's what Biden is 1673 01:39:47,680 --> 01:39:50,880 Speaker 1: talking about. Biden is talking you know, obviously darker terms, 1674 01:39:51,600 --> 01:39:54,719 Speaker 1: obviously not putting nearly as much emphasis on the vaccine, 1675 01:39:54,720 --> 01:39:57,599 Speaker 1: but talking about the near term, the next few hundred days, 1676 01:39:57,600 --> 01:39:59,599 Speaker 1: in which basically Americans still have to do a lot 1677 01:39:59,640 --> 01:40:04,040 Speaker 1: to pretend themselves until we can get that inoculation. That's right. 1678 01:40:04,120 --> 01:40:06,280 Speaker 1: This is what you're going to be told every day 1679 01:40:06,320 --> 01:40:11,240 Speaker 1: from now until the end of January. We haven't been 1680 01:40:11,320 --> 01:40:14,800 Speaker 1: told enough? Did do you feel like that we haven't 1681 01:40:14,840 --> 01:40:20,240 Speaker 1: been told enough about social distancing? Where a mask wash 1682 01:40:20,320 --> 01:40:25,160 Speaker 1: your hands? Here here's a question that I asked yesterday 1683 01:40:25,240 --> 01:40:30,200 Speaker 1: on Twitter, you know, before they banned me. But here's 1684 01:40:30,200 --> 01:40:33,519 Speaker 1: a question that they ask on Twitter, and that I 1685 01:40:33,560 --> 01:40:38,120 Speaker 1: asked on Twitter rather and I gotta tell you, as 1686 01:40:38,120 --> 01:40:41,679 Speaker 1: I look at it, it's amazing to me how unself 1687 01:40:41,680 --> 01:40:46,559 Speaker 1: aware of so many people are. I said about this 1688 01:40:47,640 --> 01:40:51,439 Speaker 1: COVID stuff that we're being told all the time, I 1689 01:40:51,479 --> 01:40:53,639 Speaker 1: asked the very real question, does anyone have an explanation 1690 01:40:53,680 --> 01:40:57,440 Speaker 1: of how it's possible? Mass compliance is the most widespread 1691 01:40:57,479 --> 01:40:59,920 Speaker 1: it has been all year in this country, But we 1692 01:41:00,080 --> 01:41:04,519 Speaker 1: now have more COVID cases than we did in March 1693 01:41:05,200 --> 01:41:10,000 Speaker 1: of twenty twenty and April, after months a viral spread 1694 01:41:10,600 --> 01:41:14,920 Speaker 1: with no mask mandates and almost no public masking at all, 1695 01:41:15,160 --> 01:41:18,439 Speaker 1: And I said, please answer me before Twitter bands this question, 1696 01:41:18,479 --> 01:41:20,439 Speaker 1: because as we know, social media companies are run by 1697 01:41:20,479 --> 01:41:25,800 Speaker 1: idiot libs and they can't think for themselves. Okay, so 1698 01:41:26,439 --> 01:41:28,760 Speaker 1: what is the answer to this. What's amazing to me, 1699 01:41:29,200 --> 01:41:31,800 Speaker 1: and this tells you so much, is how many people 1700 01:41:31,880 --> 01:41:35,919 Speaker 1: respond to this with because it's blah blah blah, you idiot, 1701 01:41:36,479 --> 01:41:40,200 Speaker 1: And there's a hundred different people with a hundred different 1702 01:41:40,520 --> 01:41:44,719 Speaker 1: reasons why I'm an idiot for not knowing what they're 1703 01:41:44,960 --> 01:41:50,160 Speaker 1: approved consensus left wing Fauci seal of approval answer is 1704 01:41:50,840 --> 01:41:55,680 Speaker 1: it's because people aren't masking up enough, really, so they 1705 01:41:55,680 --> 01:41:57,840 Speaker 1: didn't really think about the question very much, did they. 1706 01:41:58,120 --> 01:42:02,240 Speaker 1: We went from basically clean no masking in March and April, 1707 01:42:02,360 --> 01:42:05,320 Speaker 1: very very little, very intermittent here and there, and certainly 1708 01:42:05,320 --> 01:42:09,320 Speaker 1: no mandates. We went from that to eighty percent ninety 1709 01:42:09,320 --> 01:42:14,439 Speaker 1: percent mass compliance. And somehow cases and cases are higher. 1710 01:42:14,760 --> 01:42:17,720 Speaker 1: Some of them were saying because cases are not hospitalizations 1711 01:42:17,720 --> 01:42:22,360 Speaker 1: and death uitiot, Really, hospitalizations and deaths are also higher. 1712 01:42:23,520 --> 01:42:26,040 Speaker 1: But you just go, you go down this list because 1713 01:42:26,080 --> 01:42:29,040 Speaker 1: Europe figured it out and we didn't really Germany just said, 1714 01:42:29,080 --> 01:42:33,320 Speaker 1: it's all time one day death record from COVID Germany 1715 01:42:33,439 --> 01:42:36,200 Speaker 1: is a sixth the size of the United States. They 1716 01:42:36,200 --> 01:42:39,360 Speaker 1: had almost what was it, five hundred five hundred plus 1717 01:42:39,400 --> 01:42:41,400 Speaker 1: dead in one day, So it's you know, two or 1718 01:42:41,439 --> 01:42:44,360 Speaker 1: three thousand dead in one day in Germany if you 1719 01:42:44,400 --> 01:42:47,559 Speaker 1: made it a comparable to the US population. Oh, and 1720 01:42:47,600 --> 01:42:49,439 Speaker 1: I thought the Germans figured out the whole thing. I 1721 01:42:49,520 --> 01:42:51,679 Speaker 1: thought the Germans had the answer. It was those dumb 1722 01:42:51,720 --> 01:42:57,679 Speaker 1: Trump supporters. It is so dangerous and so wrong for 1723 01:42:57,760 --> 01:43:03,720 Speaker 1: people to think it's okay to blame disfavored political groups 1724 01:43:03,760 --> 01:43:07,160 Speaker 1: in the United States and group in this case half 1725 01:43:07,160 --> 01:43:10,680 Speaker 1: the country that supported Donald Trump. They're the reason for 1726 01:43:10,720 --> 01:43:14,320 Speaker 1: this virus. This is idiocy. There's no basis for this, 1727 01:43:14,560 --> 01:43:17,400 Speaker 1: and they can't answer these questions when you bring them up. 1728 01:43:18,400 --> 01:43:20,559 Speaker 1: And my favor, of course, as I've said, is it's 1729 01:43:20,600 --> 01:43:23,920 Speaker 1: so obvious, idiot. And then they tell me something and 1730 01:43:23,920 --> 01:43:26,800 Speaker 1: I say, well, your other liberal blue check friend over here, 1731 01:43:27,000 --> 01:43:30,559 Speaker 1: who believes in the science, has a different answer. So 1732 01:43:30,680 --> 01:43:32,400 Speaker 1: which one of you is correct? And if it's a 1733 01:43:32,520 --> 01:43:36,320 Speaker 1: hundred different things, maybe it's not obvious, is it. All 1734 01:43:36,360 --> 01:43:38,920 Speaker 1: you have to do is ask the questions. You don't 1735 01:43:38,960 --> 01:43:41,600 Speaker 1: even have to take stands right now, just ask the 1736 01:43:41,680 --> 01:43:44,680 Speaker 1: questions you're not supposed to. And when you get unsatisfactory 1737 01:43:44,720 --> 01:43:47,960 Speaker 1: answers and you're told shut up, peasant, do what you're told. 1738 01:43:48,240 --> 01:43:52,479 Speaker 1: You know exactly what you're up against. Anyone can observe 1739 01:43:52,880 --> 01:43:56,200 Speaker 1: that what the media, the left, the Libs have been 1740 01:43:56,240 --> 01:43:59,040 Speaker 1: saying was going to save us. We can control this, 1741 01:43:59,320 --> 01:44:04,080 Speaker 1: we can flat in the curve. Clearly that is not true. 1742 01:44:05,200 --> 01:44:10,120 Speaker 1: Clearly it is called an observation of reality all around us. 1743 01:44:10,800 --> 01:44:13,000 Speaker 1: I know people here in New York who are getting COVID. 1744 01:44:13,200 --> 01:44:15,360 Speaker 1: I have friends in LA who have just gotten COVID. 1745 01:44:15,560 --> 01:44:18,880 Speaker 1: I know people all across the country are seeing cases 1746 01:44:19,320 --> 01:44:25,360 Speaker 1: and hospitalizations spiking even more than they did the last 1747 01:44:25,800 --> 01:44:27,439 Speaker 1: at the beginning of the pandemic. So this is now 1748 01:44:27,960 --> 01:44:31,280 Speaker 1: called second wave that we're seeing, right, this is the 1749 01:44:31,320 --> 01:44:34,599 Speaker 1: second wave. But if we have gotten so much better 1750 01:44:34,600 --> 01:44:36,800 Speaker 1: with our ppe, we remember we have better treatments for 1751 01:44:36,840 --> 01:44:40,040 Speaker 1: this now. So somehow the virus has spread more and 1752 01:44:40,080 --> 01:44:43,160 Speaker 1: it's spread more efficiently. Okay, maybe there's a mutation that's 1753 01:44:43,560 --> 01:44:45,519 Speaker 1: led to the increased spread. We don't know. That's a 1754 01:44:45,600 --> 01:44:48,600 Speaker 1: real answer. I could handle that as an answer. But 1755 01:44:48,760 --> 01:44:51,679 Speaker 1: where a mask, like what Cuomo says all the time. 1756 01:44:52,040 --> 01:44:55,720 Speaker 1: That's not a real answer. That's not me saying that 1757 01:44:55,760 --> 01:44:58,200 Speaker 1: it doesn't work at all. I'm just saying the reason 1758 01:44:58,240 --> 01:45:00,400 Speaker 1: that we have this huge spike in cases is not 1759 01:45:00,520 --> 01:45:04,559 Speaker 1: lack of mass compliance. That is madness. People are masking 1760 01:45:04,640 --> 01:45:06,840 Speaker 1: up all over the place. I know people who are 1761 01:45:07,800 --> 01:45:13,639 Speaker 1: very mask conscientious. They're sick or they've gotten sick. So 1762 01:45:14,040 --> 01:45:16,360 Speaker 1: what are they Is it their fault? Oh no, it's 1763 01:45:16,360 --> 01:45:20,800 Speaker 1: only a Republicans. When a Republican gets COVID, it's his fault. Right, 1764 01:45:20,880 --> 01:45:24,200 Speaker 1: So when Rudy Giuliani gets COVID nineteen, the media says, see, 1765 01:45:24,280 --> 01:45:27,560 Speaker 1: he's reckless. But when Jared Polis, the governor of Colorado, 1766 01:45:27,760 --> 01:45:30,120 Speaker 1: big mask maniac, when he gets it and his wife 1767 01:45:30,160 --> 01:45:32,639 Speaker 1: gets it, it's oh, gosh, it's a virus. I guess 1768 01:45:32,640 --> 01:45:36,040 Speaker 1: it can really spread. Gosh, this is real contagious. Is 1769 01:45:36,080 --> 01:45:39,040 Speaker 1: this is tearing us apart? We should be unified against this, 1770 01:45:39,720 --> 01:45:41,920 Speaker 1: We should be united as a country. This isn't This 1771 01:45:42,000 --> 01:45:46,720 Speaker 1: is an external enemy that is mixing in in all 1772 01:45:46,760 --> 01:45:51,080 Speaker 1: over our society, this virus. And instead people have used 1773 01:45:51,080 --> 01:45:53,719 Speaker 1: this as a wedge. They've used this for further division 1774 01:45:54,400 --> 01:45:57,839 Speaker 1: and they refuse to deal with what we can all 1775 01:45:57,880 --> 01:46:03,479 Speaker 1: see and observe they are lying to you, and just 1776 01:46:03,680 --> 01:46:07,200 Speaker 1: asking them to explain themselves results in them saying that 1777 01:46:07,479 --> 01:46:08,960 Speaker 1: you are a liar.