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Speaker 1: Mickey Spagnola, Brian brought us, Taylor Stern and Rob Phillips. Hello, everyone,
Speaker 1: and welcome into another edition of Talking Cowboys. We are
Speaker 1: here more than midway through this week's game against the Broncos,
Speaker 1: getting ready. The Cowboys are prepping. They're gonna have their
Speaker 1: second practice. Just now, make you good son, We're q.
Speaker 1: I think Kent's Mike might be we go. We're back.
Speaker 1: It's all talking to you guys, talking to me. Guess hey,
Speaker 1: I thought I was in the wine cellar. Yeah, he's
Speaker 1: always here with us, with us. Rob's here with Brian's
Speaker 1: here with us. We are in the Taylor's here with us.
Speaker 1: See mortgage studio. I'm here with you and we're breaking
Speaker 1: things down. But I just mentioned the Cowboys are about
Speaker 1: to have their second practice. They had their first yesterday.
Speaker 1: Fans were a little alarmed when they saw that Terrence
Speaker 1: Williams was a DNP, but I think Garrett kind of
Speaker 1: cleared that up for everyone today when he said he
Speaker 1: would be able to do a little bit more today.
Speaker 1: What do you think of that, Mick. He said, hopefully
Speaker 1: he can do a little bit more. Yeah, I'm means
Speaker 1: he didn't do anything yesterday, So I am not sure
Speaker 1: about what a little bit more means. Maybe like put
Speaker 1: on football gear, Yeah, show up for warm ups as
Speaker 1: supposed to not wear football gear. I think maybe the
Speaker 1: practice squad move they made yesterday could be a little
Speaker 1: bit telling that there's a little concern there. And the
Speaker 1: practice squad move was Robert I guy Jamille Showers no
Speaker 1: longer on the ten man practice squad. They brought back
Speaker 1: Brian Brown wide receiver, So we'll see. But Terence is tough.
Speaker 1: I mean, he has not missed a single game in
Speaker 1: his career. So if he can possibly be out there,
Speaker 1: he'll be out there. I'm sure the Brown things for
Speaker 1: for practice purposes. Well, I know, we just have some
Speaker 1: depths right in case you need to. Yeah, but I
Speaker 1: would think, you know this is gonna be I mean,
Speaker 1: it doesn't look good right now. Let's let's let's be fair. Uh,
Speaker 1: maybe he gets better as the week goes along, and
Speaker 1: it might be one of those things where if you
Speaker 1: can do a little something on Friday, then you had
Speaker 1: you you know, might be able to play on Sunday
Speaker 1: and you got a couple of days after Friday. Yeah,
Speaker 1: how do you play this game without him? What do
Speaker 1: you how do you mind this thing up? I was
Speaker 1: just thinking, you know, yesterday we're talking about e Zeke
Speaker 1: Elliott and the sixty play runs that he had week one.
Speaker 1: Do you utilize Zeke a little bit more in the
Speaker 1: passing game? Well, it's not a bad idea. This Bronco
Speaker 1: team struggled with that against San Diego. They hit some plays.
Speaker 1: I like that idea. I'll tell you what I like though.
Speaker 1: I mean, we've talked about, We've talked about, you know,
Speaker 1: with with Bryce Butler, you know, does he step up?
Speaker 1: Do you feel good about Bryce Butler, Beasley Dez going
Speaker 1: into this game? If you had to play those three?
Speaker 1: You feel good about this? Absolutely. See that's one of
Speaker 1: those things where you kind of, you know, you say, okay.
Speaker 1: Terrence Williams, Yeah, he played a hell of a game
Speaker 1: the other day, and he's he's he's been one of
Speaker 1: those guys like Rob talks about, you throw him out there,
Speaker 1: you find space, he makes plays. He's getting better, you know,
Speaker 1: he's getting better and better and better at that. But
Speaker 1: you feel a little bit better about what is behind him.
Speaker 1: The depth of the wide receiver position gives his team
Speaker 1: a little flexibility. Maybe it gets Switzer out on the
Speaker 1: field a little more, you know, maybe some of the
Speaker 1: more opportunities for him if in fact, Terrence Williams cannot
Speaker 1: go in this game. This is exactly why they kept
Speaker 1: Bryce Butler. Now he earned it, he earned it, but
Speaker 1: everybody wanted to get rid of him. Right he got
Speaker 1: Noah Browns. Everybody wanted to get rid of Price Butler.
Speaker 1: And then he had a really good offseason or a
Speaker 1: really good training camp, And you didn't have that type
Speaker 1: of receiver available to you when they started training camp
Speaker 1: that can go in and take the place of Dez
Speaker 1: or take the place of Terrence Williams. All you had
Speaker 1: is the little munchkin guys, and you don't want those
Speaker 1: guys on on the outside all that much, or a
Speaker 1: guy like Noelah brown who's never who's never played in
Speaker 1: right games. Right now, you've got Bryce Butler who at
Speaker 1: least has shown uh if he'll run discipline routes and
Speaker 1: you know, catch the ball and as shost to finish that,
Speaker 1: you know he can fill in that role as that
Speaker 1: guy that guy doesn't have to be the lead receiver.
Speaker 1: He just has to be the complimentary guy and make
Speaker 1: catches when they call your number or when they're triple
Speaker 1: team in Dez Bryant. Hey, I think route running is
Speaker 1: going to be huge this weekend. I really do. And
Speaker 1: it's always I don't mean to diminish, but you can't
Speaker 1: be lazy against these guys. You know, you can't be
Speaker 1: lazy with the ball outside to throw. You gotta run route,
Speaker 1: you gotta get open, you gotta fight for space. There's
Speaker 1: gonna be a lot of times we've talked about frustrations
Speaker 1: level you brought up to leave and what he potentially
Speaker 1: can do. You know. That's that's the thing that you
Speaker 1: know that I worry about with with with Harris Robie
Speaker 1: to Leab, he's you know those guys covering. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: know you get Mickey said it. He disciplined, run routes,
Speaker 1: finish it. They're gonna be fine for some space on
Speaker 1: the outside. And this one, I do think when we
Speaker 1: talked about this little bit yesterday, I do think Zeke
Speaker 1: is an option there and and five catches the other
Speaker 1: day that could be a preview of what he's doing
Speaker 1: for this team the entire season if he if he
Speaker 1: plays the entire season given the legal issues going on.
Speaker 1: Um I asked him yesterday about his pass catching ability.
Speaker 1: He said, growing up, I never wanted to have any weaknesses.
Speaker 1: And Marshall Falk I remember as a guy, he's pointed
Speaker 1: out that he wants to see Yeah, Saint Louis guy.
Speaker 1: I mean he's an underrated option there for this team,
Speaker 1: I think, and it's worth noting with with Terrence a
Speaker 1: little gimpy this week, yes, and yeah, I like what
Speaker 1: Mickey's saying there. Excuse me. I like what you're saying, Mick,
Speaker 1: as far as if he can do a little bit,
Speaker 1: will you open that for me? Open my water here?
Speaker 1: What you're saying, if Terence can go a little bit
Speaker 1: on Friday, we may see him come Sunday. And I
Speaker 1: say that because Terrence injured himself on the very first
Speaker 1: play of the game, so he showed that he could
Speaker 1: have it out. Now. Granted, I'm not saying that he
Speaker 1: can't be tough again or questioning any of that. I
Speaker 1: get the doctors and other people are involved, and you know,
Speaker 1: preventing future injuries. Yeah, high altitude help you heal fast. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I hope, So hi Chamber, you know what, I'll tell
Speaker 1: you where they will miss him though blocking blocking, and
Speaker 1: he's one of these guys. They bring emotion and they
Speaker 1: put him at the point of attack, and he's got
Speaker 1: a nasty disposition about himself. You know. When he goes
Speaker 1: up in there and there's a lot of things, they
Speaker 1: run play action off that too to try and fool
Speaker 1: bring him in motion. They think, oh, they was gonna
Speaker 1: have a running play right here, but then they're able
Speaker 1: to fake it and then he goes up the field
Speaker 1: and you know create. So if you're gonna miss him,
Speaker 1: and we all feel good about Bryce Butler, but if
Speaker 1: you're gonna miss him, it's gonna be as a as
Speaker 1: a blocker, a point of attack blocker, and a guy
Speaker 1: when the run gets to the edge, he's able to
Speaker 1: kind of hold the edge too out there, you know,
Speaker 1: make those guys to leave or whoever's covering him, Harris,
Speaker 1: those guys that Robie have to, you know, get off
Speaker 1: blocks to make tackles well on the other side of
Speaker 1: the ball. Orlando Scanner obviously did not practice, and there's
Speaker 1: assuming now that he will most likely not be on Sunday.
Speaker 1: Of course, yesterday, Garrett said, not ruled out. Yeah, day
Speaker 1: to day, we're just coach speak. Yeah, Mickey and I
Speaker 1: back in the day when we when yeah, when when
Speaker 1: Kelsey Charles was sitting in that chair, they would always
Speaker 1: laugh because I'd give it one of these like that,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, that's get out of Yeah, that's out.
Speaker 1: You know, that's a major league going. Part way of saying, yeah,
Speaker 1: so I get ready to play without Orlando scanners, but
Speaker 1: get ready to play with Jordan Lewis. Oh yeah, old participation. Wait,
Speaker 1: first time since he's been a cowboy in training camp
Speaker 1: back then. Uh yeah, apparently he looked good out there.
Speaker 1: I would imagine more reps for him this week. And
Speaker 1: a Woozier continues to be okay. I think you know,
Speaker 1: he rolled his ank a little bit the other night.
Speaker 1: So finally we're starting to see these young rookie cornerbacks
Speaker 1: out there. That'd be great to get I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: get Lewis back on the field. That's good. I think
Speaker 1: he's another option in the slot if he's ready to go.
Speaker 1: He's the most talented of the young I mean of
Speaker 1: him and a Woozia, and I love what a Woozier.
Speaker 1: He's done, I mean, how he's shown up so far.
Speaker 1: But Lewis is the more talented of the two in
Speaker 1: my opinion. Well, and I just want him to be
Speaker 1: ready because I'm ready for Mickey to see him really play.
Speaker 1: You haven't really gotten to see Jordan Lewis play as
Speaker 1: much as you probably wanted to. Well, we didn't see
Speaker 1: him at all in training camp, really didn't. He didn't
Speaker 1: hurt himself right away on special teams and then you know,
Speaker 1: just kind of prolonged and prolonged. So the most we
Speaker 1: saw of him it was in OTAs and you know,
Speaker 1: obviously the coaches like what they saw of him. But again,
Speaker 1: you haven't seen it yet. So well, we'll see. I'm
Speaker 1: throwing him in the deep end of the pool, you
Speaker 1: got ahead and see if he can start throw him
Speaker 1: And before j Barrett said it today, yeah, I think
Speaker 1: so absolutely A drafted this kid to play about Brown
Speaker 1: in the slot? Yeah absolutely Brown, Yeah, let's go. Don't
Speaker 1: you think Brown starts? Oh no, Brown absolutely starts. He's
Speaker 1: gonna play in the slot. I think what you're gonna
Speaker 1: see is where we saw the end of the game.
Speaker 1: I think that's what you're gonna be starter, Carol A. Woozier,
Speaker 1: and then and then Brown in the slot, and then
Speaker 1: your complimentary player is gonna be Lewisy. Jason Garrett said it,
Speaker 1: guys and gal, sixteen games. You've only got sixteen of these. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: we don't have time to wait around anymore. And you're
Speaker 1: saying that, and the only name that was actually on
Speaker 1: this twenty sixteen roster was Anthony Brown. Yeah, And I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that thing against that. You're just different,
Speaker 1: that's crazy. But before that buried Church and all them.
Speaker 1: But before we had this show, and I think if
Speaker 1: we'd had this show in this in the in the
Speaker 1: in the some in the spring, we would have talked
Speaker 1: about is this group more talented than the one they
Speaker 1: let go? And that's that's there on the other side
Speaker 1: of the building. That's what they're thinking. They're liking. Hey Woozier,
Speaker 1: come on, Lewis, come on. You know, hey Brown, you
Speaker 1: were pretty good last year. Carol, just be you get
Speaker 1: us to where we need to be and we'll figure
Speaker 1: these young guys out. Younger for sure, but they'll tell
Speaker 1: you that the hope is a little faster, a little quicker,
Speaker 1: maybe in position to make more plays on the ball. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but again they're young. So are you getting forty turnovers? Yeah,
Speaker 1: you got a lot to go there, you got thirty
Speaker 1: nine to god, you trade off allowing more big plays
Speaker 1: down the field with the younger guys out there. I mean,
Speaker 1: you have to see they did it. But that was
Speaker 1: the best thing they did in the secondary last year
Speaker 1: was allowing I think ten fewer pass plays over twenty
Speaker 1: yards than they did the year before. I was gonna say, well,
Speaker 1: maybe faster than Brandon Carr, but I'll take Morris Clayborne
Speaker 1: in a foot race with any of these guys. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's he just couldn't stay healthy. You can't stay healthy
Speaker 1: and may and hopefully hopefully he doesn't. The curse hasn't
Speaker 1: been passed down to Lewis you know him now, maybe
Speaker 1: he's got that behind him, so hopefully. So. Now on
Speaker 1: the couraging side, we got to see Anthony Hitchens do
Speaker 1: some field work out there on the chords. So what
Speaker 1: if let me ask you this, play play crystal ball
Speaker 1: with me Mickey Okay's favorite, Vicky loves crystal ball. What
Speaker 1: if you do if you get the same type of
Speaker 1: effort intensity all those things you got from Jalen Smith
Speaker 1: in week one and say you and we we get
Speaker 1: to week four and Hitchens is able to play. M hmm,
Speaker 1: you're gonna make that switch? Oh it's a Prescott Romo
Speaker 1: deal again. Oh, I'm just I'm not saying I'm not
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna hold it to you. But what we saw,
Speaker 1: what we saw from Anthony Hitchens is he was clearly
Speaker 1: the starting middle linebacker. Yeah, and maybe this is another
Speaker 1: day talk. I'm sorry for bringing. Oh, it's like, we
Speaker 1: gotta see what Smith does because I think he has
Speaker 1: to take the next steps and improve. But yeah, it
Speaker 1: wasn't perfect. No, no, he wasn't perfect. But if he
Speaker 1: plays like he did, you know where, you're like, whoa,
Speaker 1: he wasn't a liability out there, right, you know? I mean,
Speaker 1: then maybe maybe Hitchens take for for just getting them
Speaker 1: back in. He takes over the role that Durant was
Speaker 1: going to take. That's even better point because he was
Speaker 1: playing on all those changeup Remember it was him and
Speaker 1: wonder of the coaches would switch that. Wow, put it
Speaker 1: on the coaches, Mickey say with the same with the
Speaker 1: coaches would put to put that. Don't put it on
Speaker 1: you put on the coaches. I'd play him on the
Speaker 1: nickel hitch hitch on the Nickels Hitchins in league, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then let let Jalen play based defense. How about
Speaker 1: you there? That probably was the plan to begin with. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I feel like this is what they've been thinking. Yeah,
Speaker 1: put Jalen in that in a two down situation, and
Speaker 1: then Hitchens is the nickel guy. Good. Hitchens was good California. Yesterday.
Speaker 1: He said he's talked about him every day, probably wrote
Speaker 1: about him. Yeah, I did. Just I spoke to him briefly.
Speaker 1: He said he's you mentioned rehab work, and he's just
Speaker 1: getting gone with that. He's not, you know, back to
Speaker 1: football activities. I put him out there next week. He
Speaker 1: says he getting better every single day. The head coach,
Speaker 1: I'm not thanks God for that. Just throw him out there.
Speaker 1: Huh No, I just I'm the worst when he's not ready.
Speaker 1: He's not. Brian's favorite thing of the entire football industry,
Speaker 1: NFL Draft. I love football. And yeah, yesterday we were
Speaker 1: in the locker room. Mickey you wrote about it, and
Speaker 1: Mick shots whoa, that's back. It's back back baby, and
Speaker 1: Rob you guys all know about this. But Dak Prescott
Speaker 1: told a very interesting story during his locker room availability,
Speaker 1: saying that he missed a flight to Denver and the
Speaker 1: possibilities of him possibly not being with the Cowboys all
Speaker 1: pretty much laid with the trade of the Broncos trading
Speaker 1: up to get Paxton Lynch, stealing him away from Jerry Jones,
Speaker 1: and what that could have meant for the team. They
Speaker 1: would have probably traded their second round, third round pick
Speaker 1: of that draft. That means no Jalen Smith, no Charles Tapper, yeah,
Speaker 1: and definitely no Dak Prescott if they go and get
Speaker 1: a quarterback in the first round. Paxton Lynch should not
Speaker 1: practice yesterday's shoulder and has been inactive, and obviously Trevor
Speaker 1: Simmon is the starting quarterback for them now. Sometimes the
Speaker 1: best trade you make are the ones you don't make, right, Brian,
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, man, no true words. Sometimes things
Speaker 1: happen for a reason. As they wrote about on the website,
Speaker 1: it's fate kind of what happened. Let me tell you this.
Speaker 1: Let me tell you this. Sitting in a draft room,
Speaker 1: you think about that, and you yourself, and then you
Speaker 1: look at how it turned out and you're like, my
Speaker 1: God was I stupid. You know, You're like, oh God,
Speaker 1: was I lucky? You know, you do you sit there
Speaker 1: and you just you your Bronchos right now? Well you know,
Speaker 1: but yeah, it's Hey, it worked out. John always a
Speaker 1: good evalu waiter of quarterbacks. I mean I trust his
Speaker 1: eye for quarterbacks. I really really did. And obviously they
Speaker 1: had some interest in Dak. They wanted to bring him
Speaker 1: in and as you said, Tay, I mean, Dak was
Speaker 1: pretty open about that. He said he was working down
Speaker 1: in Orlando and apparently that's a busy airport to fly
Speaker 1: out of. Hey. I just want to say the Bronchos
Speaker 1: are definitely mad at themselves right now, because that was
Speaker 1: the year they were deciding not to pay Broncos Swiler
Speaker 1: that big money contract. Texans ended up doing that. They
Speaker 1: traded him away to the Brown's last free agency date.
Speaker 1: Now he's back with the Bronchos for a lot less
Speaker 1: much a lot less money. But I'll tell you what though.
Speaker 1: The worst airport to fly out in the United States,
Speaker 1: he said, he was a little other than maybe Chicago. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it just will traffic on the way. Well this weekend,
Speaker 1: there's just so much more the security lines Miami are
Speaker 1: so long. Well, you have been in Miami. Oh yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: say mickey. Yeah, but Orlando, there's no there's no Disney
Speaker 1: World in her room. But they handled they know how
Speaker 1: to handle the crap. Don't take a shot at Orlando
Speaker 1: because not only do you have to go through that
Speaker 1: long security line, you gotta get on a tram to
Speaker 1: get to the terminal. Everywhere you go, we get on
Speaker 1: a tram. I know, but that's what you gotta play
Speaker 1: ahead when you go to land flying charter rookie, he
Speaker 1: didn't need an understand flying out of land, That's true.
Speaker 1: A lot happens. But he missed. He said, he missed
Speaker 1: the team the dinner and he got there later. But
Speaker 1: you know, and he said, when the quarterback misses his flight,
Speaker 1: it's probably not a good it's a bad example. Yeah,
Speaker 1: told him he should have he got there. He said,
Speaker 1: the door just closed. He should have offered the gate
Speaker 1: person a water burger. But that's not a bad call, right,
Speaker 1: didn't come prepared? Let him in. Now, seeing Dak Prescott
Speaker 1: walk up, a matter of fact, I think if you've
Speaker 1: really followed that, he doesn't have to fly commercially. Yeah,
Speaker 1: if you follow there, Yeah, I deviated that he just
Speaker 1: game a little plug right, And if you guys follow
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones, you realize he doesn't all as well and
Speaker 1: they would ride down the tollway anymore from him. Yesterday,
Speaker 1: this is what Jerry Jones said right after Draft Night one,
Speaker 1: missing on Paxiston Lynch, and he said, when I look
Speaker 1: back on my life, I overpaid for my big successes
Speaker 1: every time, and when I tried to get a bargain,
Speaker 1: get a little cheaper, or get a better deal on it,
Speaker 1: I ended up usually either getting it and not happy
Speaker 1: I got it, or even missing it. And I probably
Speaker 1: should have overpaid. Here in reference to Paxiston Lynch, Yes,
Speaker 1: little did he know he didn't need to do that. No,
Speaker 1: and hey, the draft gods once and while they smile
Speaker 1: on you, you know I really do. It's an interesting quote,
Speaker 1: really interesting quote when you think about how fortunate they've
Speaker 1: been with quarterbacks. I mean, Romo was like a godsend
Speaker 1: undrafted and since then, I mean they really They took
Speaker 1: a flyer on Stephen McGee in the fourth round didn't
Speaker 1: work out, So I mean, I think the philosophy was,
Speaker 1: if we want to get a guy that's the air
Speaker 1: apparent to Tony. We might have to pay up, might
Speaker 1: have to spend a high pick on him, lo and
Speaker 1: behold Rain Dakota in the fourth round. Hey, in the
Speaker 1: history of the Dallas Cowboys, they've taken flyers on every
Speaker 1: quarterback that was outstanding except Troy Aikman. Because they had
Speaker 1: the first pick in the draft. Sure, they took a
Speaker 1: flyer on Merit that's signing him to basically a what
Speaker 1: do you call it private services contract AFL times Yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: because they wanted to get him away from the AFL.
Speaker 1: They took a flyer on Roger Staubach, who they knew
Speaker 1: that he was going to handle service four to five
Speaker 1: years of service. They took a flyer on Danny White
Speaker 1: when they drafted him. He was going to the WFL,
Speaker 1: and they said, okay, let's just use a third round
Speaker 1: pick on him and see if that turns out. So, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's flyer on Romo, flyer on this guy, flyer on
Speaker 1: Drew Henson, chater. Yeah, didn't work. Brett Wade Wilson, Rob
Speaker 1: you know, don't remind me, Sorry, Brian, But those weren't, yeah, liars.
Speaker 1: Those were just kind of bringing in guys trying to
Speaker 1: find we were trying to have a really didn't have anything,
Speaker 1: kind of have a good company baseball team. But I
Speaker 1: am glad that we have Jayalen Smith and Charles Tapper. Yes,
Speaker 1: because as Mickey is alluding to Jaylen Smith, he could
Speaker 1: even be causing some uproar in the line up here.
Speaker 1: And Charles Tapper getting his first sack last week. So
Speaker 1: Cowboys very happy with that team. Sixteen sixty. Yes, the
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Speaker 1: And before the break, I told you guys we would
Speaker 1: get some Bronco's offensive players. But we also want to
Speaker 1: hear from you, so before we get to that We'll
Speaker 1: get to our caller Paul in Colorado because he is
Speaker 1: behind enemy lines this week. Yeah, what's up, Paul? Not much, Taylor, Rob,
Speaker 1: Bryan Mickey, Good to talk to you guys. Taylor, thanks
Speaker 1: for reading my tweet yesterday. I am local to the area,
Speaker 1: so yeah, I end up listening to a lot of
Speaker 1: sports radio out of Denver Um. So I've got a
Speaker 1: question and then a bold prediction. My question is does
Speaker 1: coach Marinelli change things up this week? Last week it
Speaker 1: was a lot more of kind of a soft zone
Speaker 1: veteran quarterback, and Eli Manning proved to be the right solution.
Speaker 1: This week, we've got a one year player. And I
Speaker 1: tell you from listening to the radio from from training camp,
Speaker 1: there was a lot of whaling and nashing of teeth
Speaker 1: during training camp because it seemed like neither Simeon or
Speaker 1: Paxton Lynch wanted to take that starting job. You know,
Speaker 1: they were very inconsistent. So does Marion Ellie change things
Speaker 1: up and bring more pressure this week to try and
Speaker 1: rattle him? All right, We'll get to that, and then
Speaker 1: what was your bold prediction? My bold prediction is related
Speaker 1: to that, is that we will see brock Osweiler on
Speaker 1: Sunday because the Cowboys defense will be able to get
Speaker 1: to Trevor Simeon and rattle him so much that they'll
Speaker 1: pull him and put brockets. That is bold. So Paul
Speaker 1: is out there, He's got a little insight being located
Speaker 1: in Colorado. Marinellie loves pressure. I think he would love
Speaker 1: to see a quarterback switch. But will that happen? Do
Speaker 1: you guys see them really making the move on Trevor Simeon.
Speaker 1: I mean, if Paul's talking about all out blitzing constantly,
Speaker 1: that's not really Rods. So you're right they I mean,
Speaker 1: they want to get as much pressure as possible. But
Speaker 1: he's pretty to get to the quarterback to the quarterback.
Speaker 1: But I don't know if they change what they do.
Speaker 1: They're pretty selective with their blitz as guys, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: And I don't know that plane zone or man changes
Speaker 1: what you know, significantly what he wants. I mean, he
Speaker 1: wants to rush with his front four a right every
Speaker 1: once in a while is send a linebacker, send a
Speaker 1: guy out of the slot. Sure, but I don't know
Speaker 1: that that changes how you play your entire defense. Now.
Speaker 1: I think he was talking about do you take maybe
Speaker 1: the switch would be from a veteran quarterback to a
Speaker 1: really a second year quarterback. Do you try and confuse
Speaker 1: him with looks, with different looks. I don't see it
Speaker 1: being a really a big disguising defense here. I mean
Speaker 1: there's stuff they do in the secondary where they kind
Speaker 1: of give you a look like they're going to play
Speaker 1: two and then they go to three. You know that
Speaker 1: kind of stuff. Nicky's right rob with the blitz, the
Speaker 1: slot blitz. I think that's how they kind of want
Speaker 1: to get home. But it's going to be about four
Speaker 1: man pressure, you know. And we'll get into when we
Speaker 1: start to say, tell me more. I know the guy
Speaker 1: that I picked, Well, then let's go. Let's go into
Speaker 1: your guys. And I think what I think, to me,
Speaker 1: what's more difficult for a young quarterback is to figure
Speaker 1: out the zones than figure out man Yeah, make contested throws.
Speaker 1: I think that's the real the key, you know, if
Speaker 1: you could find a way to make him have to
Speaker 1: make We talk about pressure with Manning. You know, they
Speaker 1: got to Manning pretty well, but Manning wasn't accurate throwing
Speaker 1: the football. And I think that's really what the way
Speaker 1: they want to affect Trevor Simeon in this football game,
Speaker 1: make him not be an accurate quarterback. Yes, well you
Speaker 1: hinted at it. Let's go to tell me more. Today.
Speaker 1: My panel shows offensive players for the Bronchos that you
Speaker 1: guys should know about. So I'm very excited to say
Speaker 1: that Brian, you should go first. I will. Garrett Bowles
Speaker 1: is the first round tackle that the that the Bronchos
Speaker 1: took and he's your starter at left tackle. And he
Speaker 1: went to school at Utah much maligned if you remember
Speaker 1: from the draft show, bounced around. Yeah, older guy married,
Speaker 1: all that, you know, a positive things turned his life around.
Speaker 1: Was really a train before he got married and all
Speaker 1: that bounced around to a bunch of different schools, you know,
Speaker 1: found himself being you know, coming up the draft boards
Speaker 1: here late in the late in the first round. The
Speaker 1: Broncos they do take him. So what you got to
Speaker 1: know about him though, is he plays really soft. And
Speaker 1: when I mean soft, he's not one of these guys
Speaker 1: that when you watch Tyrn Smith play or watch Collins play,
Speaker 1: that they sit down on you when you know, when
Speaker 1: you get into him, they sit down immediate because they've
Speaker 1: got that up upper and lower body power. This guy
Speaker 1: doesn't have that. So when you watch him rush, and
Speaker 1: especially with Melvin Ingram in this game I watched last
Speaker 1: week his ability. You could take him to the quarterback,
Speaker 1: you can. You can rush him hard enough. Now, he's
Speaker 1: an athletic guy, so movement doesn't give him problems, but
Speaker 1: power does. Keep an eye on the Cowboys if they're
Speaker 1: able to get that rush where they lower their head
Speaker 1: and just take him straight back to the correct Both
Speaker 1: these tackles struggle, not as badly as what the Giants
Speaker 1: tackles were struggling out, but that this is this is
Speaker 1: a group. I think that you can take advantage of
Speaker 1: the edges a little bit, but keep an eye on
Speaker 1: him and keep an eye on him on his lack
Speaker 1: of power, and see if they could squeeze the pocket.
Speaker 1: You know, the tackle was responsible for the whip. With
Speaker 1: squeeze the pocket, get the middle push and maybe create
Speaker 1: some problems for Simeon in the middle of the pocket.
Speaker 1: I like hearing all of that to watch out for Taco,
Speaker 1: Watch out Taco. I'd beat Taco Sunday. Yeah, who are
Speaker 1: you watching out for? Mickey? Out there? I am watching
Speaker 1: out for an obvious one. Unfortunately, Demarrius Thomas. Yeah, eighty eight.
Speaker 1: He was their leading receiver in the game, five for
Speaker 1: sixty seven. But as I was going through their little
Speaker 1: release here, this stuck out to me. Broncos wide receiver
Speaker 1: de Marius Thomas joined the Pro Football Hall of famers
Speaker 1: Jerry Rice and Marvin Harrison as the only players in
Speaker 1: league history with four consecutive seasons totaling at least ninety
Speaker 1: catches and thirteen hundred receiving yards. So good, that's pretty good, right,
Speaker 1: And that's that's kind of very you know, small company there.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I think the Cowboys have to make sure
Speaker 1: that he doesn't single handedly hurt them, and it's got
Speaker 1: to be a combination of coverages. I don't think anybody
Speaker 1: follows them, especially Andrick out. They'll continue to play sides,
Speaker 1: but they've got to they've got to change up between
Speaker 1: doubling him, singling him, kind of make doing what teams
Speaker 1: do to Dez let the linebacker if you're in base
Speaker 1: disrupted out a little wider so he can't run the
Speaker 1: slant passes. Uh So, but they better keep an eye
Speaker 1: on him and not let him bail out. Simeon, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that that's a very good thumbnail on the guy too,
Speaker 1: And I'll tell you what you've I noticed on film
Speaker 1: though it's been a little bit of a struggle. When
Speaker 1: under the Manning administration, he was top doc and here
Speaker 1: it's been a little bit more like ten twelve less
Speaker 1: receptions because of where the quarterback problems that they've had.
Speaker 1: So but Mickey's absolutely right about the ability of the player.
Speaker 1: He's a little like they're eighty eight. Is a big
Speaker 1: physical receiver. Oh, absolutely, go up and get the ball.
Speaker 1: I think a question a lot of people had last
Speaker 1: week was where was Brandon Marshall? And I thought the
Speaker 1: Cowboys did a good job shutting him down. So hopefully
Speaker 1: what Mickey is telling you won't scare you, but excite
Speaker 1: you because the Cowboys were able to do something similar
Speaker 1: to that with Brandon Marshall. This guy's not old. He's
Speaker 1: not old. He's not old. Only fifth season then there
Speaker 1: with the Broncos, right, right, So that's scary. Tell me
Speaker 1: something that won't scare me, rob Boy. Potentially maybe, well potentially,
Speaker 1: let's go to another text in here. We talked about
Speaker 1: a couple of texts in yesterday. Jamal Charles backup running back.
Speaker 1: He's a little older by running back standards now. Used
Speaker 1: to be one of the best back's, most premier backs
Speaker 1: in the league, thirty years old now, and he's settled
Speaker 1: into a complimentary role now in his first year in Denver. CJ.
Speaker 1: Anderson's your starter, and he got the bulk of the
Speaker 1: carries in Week one against I was gonna say San
Speaker 1: Diego La the Chargers, but Jamal Charles ten carries forty
Speaker 1: yards in the game. He's a weapon out of the backfield.
Speaker 1: He can. You know, he's got two hundred and eighty
Speaker 1: five career catches. That's over thirty a year. So that's
Speaker 1: something they've got to watch for. And I want to
Speaker 1: point out the running game, especially because it's kind of
Speaker 1: like the point I made last week about the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: You Denver needs to stay ahead of the chains here
Speaker 1: for Simeon still a young quarterback. Denver was near the
Speaker 1: bottom of the league last year in rushing three point
Speaker 1: six yards a carry, less than one hundred yards rushing.
Speaker 1: So maybe Charles can get in that mix. But what
Speaker 1: it looks like right now is they're just kind of
Speaker 1: use him as a change of pace guy, maybe a
Speaker 1: dozen specialty plays. That's what their reports are up there,
Speaker 1: so can he give them an extra element in the
Speaker 1: run game? Kind of lightning to C. J. Anderson's thunder.
Speaker 1: They ran for one hundred and forty yards against the Chargers.
Speaker 1: If they run for one hundred and forty yards against
Speaker 1: the Cowboys, the Cowboys are getting beat. Yeah. Wow, I'll
Speaker 1: just go right there, Bold, that's fair. So those guys
Speaker 1: up front, you know, we always make a big deal
Speaker 1: out of the pass rush. Who can get there, who can't.
Speaker 1: It's going to be an important game to stop that
Speaker 1: run and make sure that ball is in Simeon's hand.
Speaker 1: And that might mean that Tyrone Crawford plays a little
Speaker 1: bit more as a run stopping defensive end more so
Speaker 1: than the guy that's going to get to the court,
Speaker 1: right nofir to say that the advantage here for the
Speaker 1: Cowboys though, And I agree with what Mickey says as
Speaker 1: far as if they run that much, but their offensive
Speaker 1: line is as weak as probably the Giants. Maybe yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's not as I don't think it's as bad
Speaker 1: overall I do at the tackle spot. Just keep an
Speaker 1: eye if it turns into a game where all of
Speaker 1: a sudden they're not able to sustain runs like Mickey say,
Speaker 1: now it's Simeon, it has to throw. Then watch these tackles.
Speaker 1: But it's He's absolutely right. You know, if they can
Speaker 1: get some things that get some track. The same can
Speaker 1: be said for the Cowboys, Right, You've got to find
Speaker 1: a way to make Denver defend your run. Yeah, if
Speaker 1: they if they are successful defending the run, they're gonna
Speaker 1: get you. They don't. They don't give anything on second down,
Speaker 1: and they surely are not going to give you a
Speaker 1: thing on third down when you have to throw the football.
Speaker 1: So this game is going to come down really to
Speaker 1: what team is better equipped or run. We think it's
Speaker 1: the Cowboys, and what defense is better equipped to handle
Speaker 1: the run. We'll see that the Broncos have made some
Speaker 1: schematic improvement and physical improvement. Let's see if they can
Speaker 1: carry it all together. Got a quick stat for you
Speaker 1: from All twenty two dot com. This speaks to just
Speaker 1: how good Denver's defense has been over the last couple
Speaker 1: of years. Since twenty fifteen. They're twenty four and four.
Speaker 1: When they score seventeen points or more, that's it seventeen
Speaker 1: and when they score less they're one and seven. But
Speaker 1: they don't they put their offense in position where the
Speaker 1: offense doesn't really have to go win the game, and
Speaker 1: the question is going to be can the Cowboys put
Speaker 1: that pressure on them? And we'll see, I mean seventeen
Speaker 1: that that shows you just how good defensively they've been.
Speaker 1: But the professor's not there anymore. The professor Wait, Phillips, wait, Phillips. Truth.
Speaker 1: I think you're right, But there is another text in
Speaker 1: there to look at. And I have Emmanuel Sanders, the
Speaker 1: wide receiver who used to be teammates with Cole Beasley
Speaker 1: here both slot receivers, and I think you know we're
Speaker 1: talking earlier about how the Cowboys will do with slot corners, right,
Speaker 1: Emmanuel Sanders might be the bigger threat here. I know
Speaker 1: what Mickey said about Damarus Thomas. He absolutely a threat.
Speaker 1: You need to keep your eyes on that eighty eight.
Speaker 1: But Emmanuel Sanders, what is scary about him is the
Speaker 1: space that he can get her read coverages so well, yeah,
Speaker 1: so will he'd be beating up on these slot corners
Speaker 1: for the Cowboys. Yeah, it's gonna be a huge matchup.
Speaker 1: That's good. That's a good thing. I you know, is
Speaker 1: I agree with you that what Mickey saying and but
Speaker 1: you know with Sanders, you know how that matchup. Can
Speaker 1: Anthy Brown inside play well enough? You know Simeon's gonna
Speaker 1: look for people that he can throw too, that can
Speaker 1: make plays for him. Okay, that sounds very obvious, Sarah,
Speaker 1: But Sanders is a guy a little bit different though.
Speaker 1: The ability to find the space, like you said, and
Speaker 1: make those those catches get first downs, high football intelligence,
Speaker 1: knows where the sticks are. One of those types of
Speaker 1: guys that you're going to have to deal with absolutely,
Speaker 1: but you get when you go to SMU, right, smart guy?
Speaker 1: Is it? SMU just makes those guys. I guess they
Speaker 1: make them smart football players. There a fan question and
Speaker 1: we already know this, but let's answer Nicole's question. She said,
Speaker 1: can you give any updates on Rico Gathers. Yeah, he's
Speaker 1: not going to practice until You're not going to get
Speaker 1: him for well five more weeks now, yeah, so he
Speaker 1: can't officially start practicing till week six, and then he
Speaker 1: could be activated in week eight. So you still got
Speaker 1: five more weeks of Rico Gathers being on game eight.
Speaker 1: Week nine, yeah, right, may week n buy in there
Speaker 1: right at some point right now. Yesterday the media was
Speaker 1: available to talk to DeMarcus Ware obviously former Cowboy for
Speaker 1: first nine years, ended his career in Denver and will
Speaker 1: be honored at the game on Sunday. And they said,
Speaker 1: how close were you to coming back to the Cowboys?
Speaker 1: And he said one day. Of course, he ended up
Speaker 1: retiring officially as a Dallas cow Boy. So would you
Speaker 1: guys have liked to have seen him on this line
Speaker 1: just for one more season? Absolutely? I mean he still
Speaker 1: had something left in the tank. Don't you think they
Speaker 1: must not have offered him enough money health? Maybe you
Speaker 1: think the health was he talked about money, money, I
Speaker 1: think was I think money's fair point. But I think
Speaker 1: as a health I think health if you get a
Speaker 1: bad over just down the hall here. He mentioned that
Speaker 1: in his retirement ceremonial press conference that long term health
Speaker 1: was important to him. Harrison, he could have been like
Speaker 1: the young kids, the guy with Pittsburgh, right, Harrison, James Harrison,
Speaker 1: Jameson's gonna be a designated pass rusher. You know, every
Speaker 1: three or four snaps you go in there and one
Speaker 1: time and rush the quarterback when you need him. That's
Speaker 1: a little bit too about if you look at what
Speaker 1: the Steelers have done with what you know, they've they've
Speaker 1: drafted him to kind of take over that role. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's drafted to take over that role of Harrison. You're
Speaker 1: right though some designated pass rush stuff. I just you know,
Speaker 1: with with with where I do believe it was more
Speaker 1: about the long term health. I said earlier that he's
Speaker 1: got young kids. You know, you want to think about that,
Speaker 1: and you know, hopefully you know when he has he
Speaker 1: made his decision. Those those kids were in the forefront
Speaker 1: of his mind, and I think they were. I mean,
Speaker 1: he told us that when he came and did the
Speaker 1: pregame show. Is the preseason game, the first one he did.
Speaker 1: We talked about it. I said, can I talk you
Speaker 1: out of it, because you know Steven's coming up next?
Speaker 1: Sure we can work something out. And he was like,
Speaker 1: you know, closer, this is the healthiest I felt. I
Speaker 1: feel so good, and he goes, you know what, I
Speaker 1: just didn't want to do anything. I think when you've
Speaker 1: had that much back problems, it probably shies you away
Speaker 1: well trying to become an agent. Here you trying. I
Speaker 1: was trying. Yeah, I think you were seeing that pass
Speaker 1: rush get that three percent cut I'd be doing. I
Speaker 1: liked I wouldn't have been here today yesterday too, and
Speaker 1: he said somebody was asking him, did you think about
Speaker 1: helping the Cowboys practice this week kind of simulating simula, Yeah,
Speaker 1: simulating von Miller And he said I couldn't be as
Speaker 1: fast as him, No, so that wouldn't do any buddy help.
Speaker 1: But we have a caller on the line, Michael from California.
Speaker 1: What is your question? My question is do you think
Speaker 1: it's time that people start giving the Cowboys a little
Speaker 1: bit more fit it for the way they draft as
Speaker 1: far as defense, and start giving credit and recognizing that
Speaker 1: our defense is actually starting to, you know, come together
Speaker 1: as the pieces we have drafted, and that as saying,
Speaker 1: you know, like do you think they'll be They'll be
Speaker 1: pretty good. That's my question. Thank you very much. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll give for the for the credit for drafting better,
Speaker 1: but I will also say this New York Giants were
Speaker 1: offensively challenged, and you're about to play some teams that
Speaker 1: are you know, I mean, we'll see what happens here
Speaker 1: in Denver. They've got the running game, Mickey mentioned, you know,
Speaker 1: they've got a young quarterback. But you've got some games
Speaker 1: coming up against some veteran quarterbacks that can spin it
Speaker 1: pretty good. Let's let's see how defensively. I'm encouraged by
Speaker 1: the young guys. I'm always more interested in playing with
Speaker 1: young guys and seeing if they can have success as
Speaker 1: opposed to older guys. That just being okay where you're
Speaker 1: treading water. But I'll yeah, I'll give William McClay and
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones and Stephen Jones and Jason Garrett for that
Speaker 1: matter of credit for the way they have drafted, because
Speaker 1: they've they figured out some pieces. Now let's see overall
Speaker 1: how that all plays out. But at least for right now,
Speaker 1: I'm okay with this. But I also cautme that the
Speaker 1: Giants were a very offensively challenged team. On their line,
Speaker 1: they were compromised without Odell Beckham. They don't run the football,
Speaker 1: and they've got a quarterback. When you bring his eye
Speaker 1: level down, he's not very good. Well, I don't know
Speaker 1: if this defense got enough credit last year for what
Speaker 1: they did. They weren't flashy, but they kept teams out
Speaker 1: of the end zone for the most part. They were
Speaker 1: one of the stingiest teams in terms of points per game.
Speaker 1: Very underrated. They didn't make a lot of plays on
Speaker 1: the ball. They still need more takeaways and that's that's
Speaker 1: where rod'stal comes from. Yeah, coach, I just wonder what
Speaker 1: Coach Marinelli thinks that this, you know, we'll talk about
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, did some good things. Got to be
Speaker 1: more consistent though, got a good opportunities. Stay at it
Speaker 1: every day, never stop aggressive, grinding fast. Where do you
Speaker 1: can't find that solid? Where do you find that cut?
Speaker 1: They have Coach Marinelli on the line. Here's a lot
Speaker 1: of can we dial them up? That is a that
Speaker 1: is from a that's from his office right there. You
Speaker 1: just got we have a direct line to direct line
Speaker 1: whose office? Nick? You know that Coach Marinellie listens to
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Speaker 1: didn't have to worry about beside sponsorship. It was splash.
Speaker 1: It was that was after I splashed blood on the
Speaker 1: shirt off earlier. That's morbid? What okay? I mean? And
Speaker 1: then here comes the FBI. Yeah, and we're one less
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Speaker 1: himself with a staple. Yeah, so that's what happened because
Speaker 1: he stapling all these papers age you guys are watching.
Speaker 1: Its very impressive the way that Mickey prepares every organized
Speaker 1: right he's organized was flying around. What do you think
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Speaker 1: and it's talking about what we what we just talked
Speaker 1: about Rod Marinelli's goal. Forty takeaways this year or how
Speaker 1: many takeaways do you think the Cowboys defense will get
Speaker 1: you got four options below twenty twenty to thirty, thirty
Speaker 1: to forty or forty plus. Who may just get to
Speaker 1: fifty this year? You know, I'm very curious to see
Speaker 1: who won that. You got what I have? Yeah, twenty
Speaker 1: to thirty okay, anybody in the thirties fair, especially when
Speaker 1: Mickey told us how many they got last year. What's
Speaker 1: over thirty to thirty to forty? Okay? But you're playing
Speaker 1: against some guys. I'm thinking of these the schedule guys
Speaker 1: that take care of the Yeah, guys that take care
Speaker 1: of the ball with Rodgers. But the way I think
Speaker 1: they're going to create is with their tackling. You know,
Speaker 1: we've seen we've seen them that ability to get to
Speaker 1: the ball, to tackle, rip the ball loose. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go I'll go over with these guys. I'll go thirty
Speaker 1: to forty on that. I think they'll be. I think
Speaker 1: what they'll be one of the better ones. The only
Speaker 1: thing I hope is that Jeff Heath isn't their interception
Speaker 1: leader again. Yeah, you'd you'd prefer the corners to get
Speaker 1: a couple picks in there. Yeah, how many do they have?
Speaker 1: Like year? It was twenty. You got the book something
Speaker 1: like that. You got one hundred pounds of paper in
Speaker 1: front of you. Keep talking about the results. You're in
Speaker 1: twenty sixteen. I've moved on to sixty three percent of
Speaker 1: the votes. Say twenty to thirty, Okay, guys were correct,
Speaker 1: thirty to forty got nine. Yeah, I mean yeah, and
Speaker 1: you guys will probably be right. But I'll think that
Speaker 1: just because they've they've done a little bit better job.
Speaker 1: They got some guys, these young guys like that. You know,
Speaker 1: Orlando Scandricks has improved with his ball skills. You know
Speaker 1: before we've seen training camp. They worked really hard on that.
Speaker 1: They ripped, they ripped the ball. They tackle well enough.
Speaker 1: You know, you get guys like Sean Lee with a
Speaker 1: big hit. If Jalen Smith continues to big hit, you
Speaker 1: get sacked fumbles in the pockets. Just need to get
Speaker 1: on those, you know. I mean, they'll probably be about
Speaker 1: six or seven when they don't get on. Yeah, but yeah,
Speaker 1: I would go, I would go maybe the thirty. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I hope they had twenty last year. Yeah, the problem
Speaker 1: was they only ended up with well eleven fumble recovery, right,
Speaker 1: there were twenty eight fumbles they got eleven. That's I'm saying.
Speaker 1: You gotta get on that. Get on that football football
Speaker 1: Tiger Tiger. For anyone who doesn't know what we're talking about,
Speaker 1: Tiger Woods look him up insulting himself back in the day.
Speaker 1: But we gotta we gotta get to our guy Reggie here.
Speaker 1: He's calling all the way from Germany. All right, Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: hey Reggie, he's still on. Sorry Reggie. How you doing, guys, Good,
Speaker 1: good good. I got um two quick questions for you. Um,
Speaker 1: I know that that DeMarcus talked about wanting to help
Speaker 1: the defensive ends out, Um have the defense if any
Speaker 1: of our defensive ends turned to him or the Cowboy's
Speaker 1: gonna allow him to do some work with our ends. Um.
Speaker 1: The other question is, Um, I got into a real
Speaker 1: deep discussion with a bunch of folks online that we're
Speaker 1: talking about who's the best back. So I'm gonna ask you, guys,
Speaker 1: who do you think is the better back? Davy Johnson, Um,
Speaker 1: guy Zeke Um or Bell leave him Bell? Yeah? Well,
Speaker 1: thanks for bringing in the NFL over to Germany. We
Speaker 1: always appreciate that you guys can still call us numbers
Speaker 1: two one four at seven two twenty one two. Let's
Speaker 1: get his first do where helping the guys. I haven't
Speaker 1: seen that. I haven't seen that. I haven't seen it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I haven't seen that. And you know we live right
Speaker 1: the practice fielders our back backyard. I will say the
Speaker 1: open practice here at Ford Center. Charles Haley, Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: always Sidley. Yeah that that's not a bad guy to
Speaker 1: learn from either. So I don't know if it wasn't
Speaker 1: during the season, but I know Tyrone Crawford worked with
Speaker 1: them a little in the off season. I remember them
Speaker 1: tweeting about that or something like that. There's a little
Speaker 1: show you're worked with where worked with the Marcus ware
Speaker 1: and Marcus where did something for NFL network, I believe,
Speaker 1: And Tyrone Crawford was involved. And I mean I think
Speaker 1: he's probably one of those guys that you could just
Speaker 1: consult anytime, maybe a mentor to these guys, right, Brian, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think that to me that you know, Haley is
Speaker 1: always going to be a guy that's around and where
Speaker 1: I think he's got other interests in things like that.
Speaker 1: It's always an offer. You always say, hey, well yeah,
Speaker 1: well we'll show up. You know. It's like Michael Leveran, Hey,
Speaker 1: I'll show up. I'll work with that whoever. But you know,
Speaker 1: when you get into season, it's a little bit more difficult.
Speaker 1: It's a lot. It's well, it's not a little, it's
Speaker 1: a lot difficult because the coaches. You don't have that
Speaker 1: much time. You know, the coaches get you out there now,
Speaker 1: maybe some pre practice stuff if they're standing around. But
Speaker 1: I just haven't seen anybody reach out reach out to
Speaker 1: well where I haven't seen him really, you know, reach
Speaker 1: out to be a part of that. I've got some
Speaker 1: pretty good teachers here. Yeah, I don't do. I mean,
Speaker 1: leon Lett kind of knows what's going on. Yeah, so yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I thought what was the other cause of the best
Speaker 1: he was talking about the best running back in the league.
Speaker 1: You know. Unfortunately David Johnson out for two to three
Speaker 1: months now with the dislocated risks, right, so and he's out,
Speaker 1: he's out, out of the equation. If you had to
Speaker 1: pick one, and we've lived with the one that's here
Speaker 1: twenty one, if you had to, if you had to,
Speaker 1: if you had to pick one to go play a
Speaker 1: game tomorrow, who would you pick? I think I would
Speaker 1: pick Zeke because we saw Levy on Bell Showing in
Speaker 1: Week one. Yes, I get sometimes people have slow starts,
Speaker 1: but yeah, I agree. I said it the other day.
Speaker 1: He's the best back in the league because there's the
Speaker 1: underrated part of the passing game. But a guy that
Speaker 1: can get you tough yards, he can do that better
Speaker 1: than the other two yards. Can he play with this
Speaker 1: old line wherever? That is the game that I'm playing, Brian, Yeah,
Speaker 1: this old line be the one that's helping him. Mickey,
Speaker 1: you ever thought, Yeah, I would take Zeke just because
Speaker 1: this reminds me of the argument Barry Sanders and Emmat Smith. Right.
Speaker 1: I like that you brought that up the other day
Speaker 1: because I think a lot of people forget that argument
Speaker 1: and that raged right. Oh, Barry Sanders was great. He
Speaker 1: did this, this and this, and he was but they
Speaker 1: were two different backs. You know, Barry Sanders might have
Speaker 1: had a heck of a lot more yards if he
Speaker 1: didn't lose so many yards. Emmett didn't lose yards, right,
Speaker 1: He was always going forward, you know. Barry Sanders was
Speaker 1: always looking for the big explosion play, and Emmat understood
Speaker 1: what getting that. Zeke understands the dirty yards where you
Speaker 1: just sometimes you gotta get three. You can't sit there
Speaker 1: and jump around in the holes looking for twenty. So yeah,
Speaker 1: I think Zeke now from a pure running standpoint, Bell's
Speaker 1: awfully good. No, that's what. Yeah, I'm kind of leaning
Speaker 1: towards Bell myself. How do you have such a slow
Speaker 1: start week one? You know, but you never know, Yeah,
Speaker 1: he get he held out if you remember he signed it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know he didn't have the camps and stuff like that,
Speaker 1: but you know they have OTA's meek. That's not an excuse.
Speaker 1: But if I think if I had to play a
Speaker 1: game tomorrow, I like what you guys are saying. We've
Speaker 1: we've all seen this with Ezekiel Elliott. Those are some
Speaker 1: tough yards the other day against the Giants, you know,
Speaker 1: and we all realize what he brings to this football team.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you. I think David Johnson's very underrated though too,
Speaker 1: but if you look at what he's what he's done
Speaker 1: in Arizona, his ability to catch the football such a weapon,
Speaker 1: you know, if you have to get him around the
Speaker 1: goal line. I mean, he's tough. But I think if
Speaker 1: I had to pick a game, and this is no
Speaker 1: disrespect to whoever you don't pick, but I think I
Speaker 1: would pick Bell to be my to be my primary
Speaker 1: ball carrier if I yeah, say, the problem what Johnson
Speaker 1: is He's playing in Arizona. People don't get to see
Speaker 1: him oh television and specially national team. Yeah, but if
Speaker 1: you watch tape, you'll know about him. You watch him,
Speaker 1: you see him play. I mean his ability, he can,
Speaker 1: he can, he can make you look silly trying to
Speaker 1: catch him. And you know the way he runs, and
Speaker 1: you know they get him going to the game, especially
Speaker 1: throwing the football. It's tough, tough, kindly tough in the
Speaker 1: passing game. Yes, hey, let's get you another caller. We
Speaker 1: have Jonathan in Shreveport on the line. What is that? Hello,
Speaker 1: Well I'm doing Uh, I'm sorry, I'm I had all
Speaker 1: my questions playing out, but I get you on here,
Speaker 1: I get a little nervous. That's okay, it's only just
Speaker 1: oh sorry, Nick. First, I just want to thank y'all
Speaker 1: for everything. I'll do. Uh. I listen to all y'all shows.
Speaker 1: Appreciate great programming. Um, Brian, he kind of surprised me
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago because your personality doesn't seem
Speaker 1: like the type. You said that with the whole Zeke
Speaker 1: deal that, uh, you would just put it behind you? Yeah.
Speaker 1: Now me, I can speak personally. I've been accused of
Speaker 1: mystic violence that I should not commit. And I can
Speaker 1: assure you that when person it's accused to that, they're
Speaker 1: not gonna say pletay guilty to it, you know, I mean,
Speaker 1: I just I can't fathom it. And especially with you,
Speaker 1: with your personality, you really think you would do that.
Speaker 1: I would in this case, absolutely I would. Because let
Speaker 1: me ask you this, in your domestic violence case, did
Speaker 1: things get pushed further out? Did we find out more
Speaker 1: about you afterwards? Where there's it all got dropped? But
Speaker 1: and no, so we didn't find out anything. So if
Speaker 1: we found out the truth and now it's over and
Speaker 1: done with, where has had I pled guilty to something?
Speaker 1: That's something that never goes away. I mean, weren't your
Speaker 1: domestic violence it's not behind you. It's never behind you.
Speaker 1: Your domestic violence God for the rest of your life. Well,
Speaker 1: you know, like I said, No, the thing I was
Speaker 1: saying is I'm I'm worried about what further further damage
Speaker 1: is going to be done to him? And and I
Speaker 1: understand about the domestic I get that it's a terrible
Speaker 1: tag to have. It really, really is. I totally get
Speaker 1: that part of it. I'm worried about going forward, if
Speaker 1: this thing continues on and on and on and on,
Speaker 1: what else are we gonna learn about her? And what
Speaker 1: else are we gonna learn about Ezekiel Elliott. That's what
Speaker 1: I'm worried about. The more we dig, the more the
Speaker 1: NFL digs, the more investigators dig, the more everybody we're
Speaker 1: gonna find out things we probably don't want to find
Speaker 1: out about this relationship. I don't know if we can
Speaker 1: find out anything more than we've already found. I don't disagree.
Speaker 1: I disagree with that here and here's the deal going
Speaker 1: forward now and what's happening now has nothing to do
Speaker 1: I'm not worried about the case anymore. I'm not worried
Speaker 1: about him now. I'm not worried. I'm worried about somebody
Speaker 1: digging more on Ezekiel L's background independent of what we're
Speaker 1: about to hear. I'm not worried about the NFL anymore.
Speaker 1: But I'm not worried about it, and that's fine. But
Speaker 1: what I'm saying is, what's going on now is more
Speaker 1: about having a fair hearing a fair. I'm not worried
Speaker 1: about that, Mickey. I'm worried. That's what's going on. That's
Speaker 1: why it's still going That's what I'm saying. I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Put it's it's going forward for the fair hearing and
Speaker 1: all that because people are still fighting about it. That's
Speaker 1: the problem. Now. They're fighting about it because they said
Speaker 1: we gave them a fair. Here they're not. Yeah, they're
Speaker 1: not fighting. They're not fighting the domestic violence. They're fighting
Speaker 1: the suspension. So that's all gone. There should be no
Speaker 1: more evidence that's brought into these somebody. But I'm saying
Speaker 1: in this day and age, people will take the cause
Speaker 1: and saying, okay that the guy is supposedly a domestic
Speaker 1: violence guy. Somebody will take up the cause and say, well,
Speaker 1: let's dig this a little bit further. The Charles Robinson's
Speaker 1: of the world, okay, But guys like that that will
Speaker 1: write cases or write stories that all of a sudden
Speaker 1: paints Zeke in an even worse life. Well, and there's
Speaker 1: things that have come out about their relationship that have
Speaker 1: been made public that nobody You wouldn't want that out
Speaker 1: in the public. It's private information, absolutely, But at the
Speaker 1: same time. I mean, what what could come out that's
Speaker 1: worse than than being label just think you can I
Speaker 1: say something? Are you saying that they would continue to
Speaker 1: dig into who Zeke is? Absolutely absolutely separate incident, Absolutely yes,
Speaker 1: finding other Yes, that could lea people believing. That's what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I totally get everybody's argument or argument or
Speaker 1: understanding of trying to clear your name. I'm it's not
Speaker 1: giving I'm just saying, does Ezekiel Elliott in this in
Speaker 1: his wanting to clear his name, is he willing to
Speaker 1: put other things potentially that he's done for someone else
Speaker 1: to go out and find. Apparently, yes, because this thing
Speaker 1: could drag on into twenty eighteen, well into twenty eighteen.
Speaker 1: That's I'm saying. An Instagram posts the other day. Did
Speaker 1: you see it? Mick I did not. He said he
Speaker 1: shared a photo and he was kind of had a
Speaker 1: kind of a goofy expression on his face. Who shared
Speaker 1: this is Ezekiel? He had he had his bows headphones on,
Speaker 1: and he was in game day dress and he had
Speaker 1: kind of a silly looking happy face on obviously first
Speaker 1: game day of the regular season. The caption was I
Speaker 1: go through it, just don't show it. Yeah. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's kind of his first hint at even saying anything
Speaker 1: about all this, because it really hasn't. Yeah, I kept,
Speaker 1: I can say it's it's not about giving up, it's
Speaker 1: about the the maybe I don't think, Yeah, the damage
Speaker 1: further damage down the road. That's because you're dealing in
Speaker 1: a situation where it appears that both sides are are
Speaker 1: putting a lot out there, and Okay, what else is there?
Speaker 1: Maybe not with this girl. What if this somebody finds
Speaker 1: another girl that steps We saw it in the Tiger
Speaker 1: Woods case. It's not just one woman, it's three women,
Speaker 1: it's four women, it's five women. Yeah. Well, and that's fine, Bryan.
Speaker 1: I just if it were me personally, I would just look,
Speaker 1: you can call me a lot of things, but you
Speaker 1: can't call me such and such domestic violence. People are
Speaker 1: knocking out on the name. People are not going to
Speaker 1: give him the benefit of the doubt anyway. I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: you might as well keep fighting it. Yeah, Well, they're
Speaker 1: not gonna they're not going to give him the benefit
Speaker 1: of the doubt. It's going further. Now, did you guys
Speaker 1: see Bran Cushing now suspended ten games. Pets that can
Speaker 1: strike for him out there. I mean, yes, the Texans
Speaker 1: don't draft the right kind of gut. That's the second one. Yeah,
Speaker 1: his four games. Yeah, his father was very critical too,
Speaker 1: of a lot of people down in the Huston media.
Speaker 1: And when it happened the first time ten yeah, give
Speaker 1: the year season. Yeah, they were very critical of of
Speaker 1: guys down there and that that they you know, stay
Speaker 1: you know, stay in your lane kind of bit. And
Speaker 1: you know, sure enough what happens. Now Son's gone for
Speaker 1: ten for ten games, So ten games, that's just second
Speaker 1: second offense, right, Yeah. In to nine in Textans will
Speaker 1: try to figure out their quarterback problems with the Deshaun
Speaker 1: Watson starting the first game on a Thursday night, Yes,
Speaker 1: Cincinnati and Cincinnati the twenty second birthday. What were you
Speaker 1: doing on your twenty second birthday? Mickey writing a story?
Speaker 1: He's on a Smith Corol was trying to graduate college. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, Deshaun, this is the right thing
Speaker 1: for Houston to do, you know. And and when are
Speaker 1: they going to say here's my quarterback? And I'm sticking
Speaker 1: with them. They need to do that right now. It's
Speaker 1: week one. I know they're already changed. How many times
Speaker 1: have they changed last year? Not everyone gets a fly
Speaker 1: by like we were saying that the Cowboys do all
Speaker 1: the time. This has been going on just in the years. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you've invested in him as the future. If you're gonna
Speaker 1: go with him, go with him, go with him. I
Speaker 1: saw an interesting sat to what Mickey saying, though. Deshaun
Speaker 1: Watson will be Texans ninth different starting QB tonight since
Speaker 1: twenty fourteen, more than the Browns and the most in
Speaker 1: the NFL in that span. And it's not all because
Speaker 1: of injury. And they're a playoff team, which is amazing.
Speaker 1: Speaks to how fortunate these Dallas Cowboys for a long time.
Speaker 1: Long did they did they actually list the names? They
Speaker 1: didn't list the names, but the Browns ones. You can
Speaker 1: just go find that famous jersey. But we know somebody
Speaker 1: will see in Denver on Sunday. Brockoswiler, he was an
Speaker 1: option there. Sure, Tom Savage, God, there's so many Brandon
Speaker 1: Brandon Weed. Yeah, they've had they've had had a few
Speaker 1: of them. They've had with him. Couch a lawyer, that
Speaker 1: was the name I was looking for, a shob Yeah,
Speaker 1: thank you there. Who was our guy from Harvard who
Speaker 1: was a Harvard quarterback. That's Patrick. It's Patrick. Yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: Now in the Bucks, the quarterback carousel never really asks
Speaker 1: what happens when you keep changing coaches, you keep changing
Speaker 1: front office guys. Nothing, no continuity. I got Bill o'brand
Speaker 1: was the quarterback guru, and what what's happened here? When
Speaker 1: the guy asked about the draft. It has a lot
Speaker 1: to do with the continuity the people making the decisions,
Speaker 1: same scheme, the same scheme. You're Fooklyn for the same
Speaker 1: type of player. The scouts kind of understand what you're
Speaker 1: looking for. And you got a guy that's in that
Speaker 1: scouting department now that the front office will listen to. Yep,
Speaker 1: and it helps, So it helps hot nuity. Hey, well,
Speaker 1: we will appreciate everyone who's listening to us because we
Speaker 1: will have another edition of Talking Cowboys tomorrow, the final
Speaker 1: one of the week. Nicky's gonna bring it with the
Speaker 1: game predictions and the rankum aren't GMx. I could do
Speaker 1: it right now, No, don't say who won't rank of
Speaker 1: By the way, last week, I think I had Sean Lee,
Speaker 1: he had Malik. I easily had the catch of the year.
Speaker 1: Oh geez, I don't know guys, guys split it. You
Speaker 1: guys split right to say DeMarcus Lawrence too, but yeah,
Speaker 1: exactly you meant to Ken said that one. All right,
Speaker 1: we'll be back in tomorrow in the SMBBC Mortgage Studio.
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