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Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George

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Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong, Joe Ketty, Armstrong and Getty

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Speaker 1: and He Armstrong and Getty.

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Speaker 2: President Donald Trump is currently meeting with the leaders of

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Speaker 2: the G seven all our allies about the Middle East

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Speaker 2: and where things are there. Benjamin Yet not meant, the

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Speaker 2: guy who is currently Prime Minister of Israel, said that

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Speaker 2: Trump is a Rand's number one enemy, which.

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Speaker 1: Might be true. Certainly if Trump gave.

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Speaker 2: The go ahead or gives the go ahead, that could

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Speaker 2: destroy Iran, and if it had been a different president,

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Speaker 2: not so much.

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Speaker 1: Probably, what do you think there's strategy is in making

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Speaker 1: that statement. It's for somebody, I don't know that to

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Speaker 1: discredit any turn toward regime change. If the US even

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Speaker 1: winks in that direction, I mean, surely they're not trying.

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Speaker 1: Maybe the Mullas think if they can provoke Trump into

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Speaker 1: actively joining the attack. Mike Lyons our friend suggested it

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Speaker 1: was almost an aside, but he said it will take

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Speaker 1: B two bombers and bunker busters to really take out

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Speaker 1: the four to huh nuclear enrichment site, and he expects

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Speaker 1: that to happen. Is it trying to provoke Trump into

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Speaker 1: doing something so the Arab world rises up a good look,

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Speaker 1: it's Satan. Good luck with that.

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Speaker 2: That's a poor plan, Yeah, agreed Benjamin Netanyah, who is

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Speaker 2: the current Prime Minister of Israel. And he sat down

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Speaker 2: with Brett Bear of Fox on a Sunday yesterday afternoon,

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Speaker 2: and I said this, which I always raised both my

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Speaker 3: Do you have intel that the assassination attempts on present

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Speaker 3: Trump worked directly from.

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Speaker 4: Iran through proxies. Yes, through their intel. Yes, they want

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Speaker 4: to kill and look is enemy number one. He's a

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Speaker 4: decisive leader. He never took the path that others took

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Speaker 4: to try to bargain with him in a way that

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Speaker 4: is weak, giving them, giving them basically a pathway to

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Speaker 4: a rich uranium, which means a pathway to the bomb,

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Speaker 4: patting it with billions and billions of dollars. He took

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Speaker 4: up this fake agreement and basically tore it up. He

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Speaker 4: killed the cossom Suleimany he said, made it.

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Speaker 1: There was the part before the beginning.

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Speaker 2: There that was the important part there in that Brett

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Speaker 2: Behar asked BB nettan Yahoo about Iran's attitude toward the

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Speaker 2: United States and everything, and Benjamin Netanyahu listed off a

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Speaker 2: bunch of things, including saying, they tried to assassinate Donald

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Speaker 2: Trump twice. They've been firing, you know, aiding the hoho

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Speaker 2: thi's and then Brett Baer said, you have information that

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Speaker 2: Iran was behind the two assassination attempts, and then bb

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Speaker 2: kind of fudged on the next part where he says

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Speaker 2: they they announced that they wanted him dead. Yes, okay, no, no, no,

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Speaker 2: you just listed in the list of things that they've

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Speaker 2: done that they tried to kill Trump twice.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and then yeah, speaking of fudging, I think I

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Speaker 1: the two actual assassination attempts in his follow up question, right,

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Speaker 1: but there were Iranian plots to assassinate absolutely, and I

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Speaker 1: think Boebe was referring to those and didn't hate it

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Speaker 1: like he also meant the geek on the roof and

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Speaker 2: We don't have that part of the clip, but him

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Speaker 2: just saying they tried to kill Trump twice. I think

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Speaker 2: he absolutely wanted that to land with people thinking that

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Speaker 1: Behind those two assassination attempts, which is just not true.

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Speaker 2: So does would be another one of those examples of

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Speaker 2: I'm on your side. Don't exaggerate things because it allows

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Speaker 1: Yeah, don't gild the lily, as they say, don't try

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Speaker 1: scenes to kill Trump. They were absolutely involved in those.

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Speaker 1: The guy on the roof, I have no idea.

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Speaker 2: I thought this was very interesting to the whole We

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Speaker 1: Sorry Phoebe is clearly trying any way he can to

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Speaker 2: Sure article in Politico, this guy Matthias Dupner, who I

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Speaker 2: amid the unfolding war between Israel and Iran, saying when

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Speaker 2: a society can no longer distinguish between good and evil,

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Speaker 2: dynamic is one of the great constants of human history.

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Speaker 2: during the climatic showdown, climactic showdown between underway in the

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Speaker 2: demoralized and divided. He's talking about the whole oppress or

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he goes on, philosophy unspeakably idiotic.

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Speaker 2: He goes on, and I thought this was good. Consider

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Speaker 2: the regime that Israel is fighting in Iran. Women are

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Speaker 2: that has been repeatedly observed since October seventh applies even

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Speaker 2: in the most obvious case here with Iran. Then this

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Speaker 2: the process of losing the world culture war, which in

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Speaker 2: reality has long since become a war of civilizations. I

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Speaker 2: don't think that overstates it at all. This is a

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Speaker 2: worldwide culture war, therefore a world a war of civilizations.

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Speaker 2: And we're divided, and that we have, you know, college

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Speaker 2: and Iran's the you'll pressed.

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Speaker 1: Right, that's so nuts. Yeah, it is, It absolutely is.

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Speaker 1: That's why I'm so adamant about this stuff. A it's

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Speaker 1: utter stupidity and be how important it all is the

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Speaker 1: whole Now we're fine, or a superpower will always be fine.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's how superpowers go away. There are

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Speaker 1: evil doers of all sorts of descriptions plotting our demise

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Speaker 1: Western world, the free world. If we stop that for

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Speaker 1: For the first time in human history.

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Speaker 2: And Ran paul On I think it was Meet the

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Speaker 2: Press yesterday saying this was an this is an unjust war.

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Speaker 2: Preemptive or preventive wars are unjust wars, which is crazy.

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Speaker 2: You're gonna let your opponent who's been vowing to kill

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Speaker 1: At which point you can't stop them short of a

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Speaker 1: nuclear holocaust. Right, that's so crazy.

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Speaker 2: I can't believe anybody so smart can have that point

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Speaker 1: That's nuts to me. It reminds me of the horrors

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Speaker 1: of in Afghanistan, are you know, marines and infantry men

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Speaker 1: special forces were told, hey, you can't like preemptively attack,

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Speaker 1: pointing right at you. That's your new rules of engagement. Horrifying.

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Speaker 2: Before we take a break and move on to something else.

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Speaker 2: Do you think Iran gets the bomb?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's interesting. I was just reading Mark Alprin's piece

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Speaker 2: is one thing Trump is adamant about. This isn't like

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Speaker 2: tariffs or something like that. He's adamant about. He is

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Speaker 2: not going to allow Iran to get a nuclear weapon

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Speaker 2: right right, and won't budge on that. So at some

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Speaker 2: point maybe we are, like you were talking about Mike

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Speaker 2: Lions on our show Hour two, get the podcast Armstrong

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Speaker 2: and Getting on Demand, believes we will be helping with

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Speaker 2: our bunker busters take out fourdoh, that last, hopefully last nuclear.

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Speaker 1: Site buried under a mountain. My favorite detail is that

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Speaker 1: they have no long corridors. They're built at right angles

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Speaker 1: at least to contain a blast energy. That's how cautious

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Speaker 1: they are about being blasted out of existence.

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Speaker 2: I have a report on how far along that project

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Speaker 1: To that a little bit later. We've got other stuff

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Speaker 1: idiotic transition, now, we're next right now.

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Speaker 2: Okay, let me get my feet at shoulder with Okay,

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Speaker 1: Good enough. Nuclear holocaust talk Jack coming up next. It's

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Speaker 1: getting pricier to fly with your pet. Oh my god,

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Speaker 2: Okay, that stupidity and other stuff on the way.

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Speaker 3: Welcome to La where something is always on fire. Yes,

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Speaker 3: we've had a little unrest. Here's how super dangerous this

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Speaker 1: And they're still going on.

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Speaker 3: Rigoletto is still playing there. So little tip if you're

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Speaker 3: planning on lou where it took Seda. This is this

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Speaker 2: And the crowd, the LA crowd laughing at that. Uh yeah,

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Speaker 2: two breaking news things. Don't have to dwell on them

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Speaker 2: because Joe has other stuff. Uh Iran has just announced

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Speaker 2: they're they're about to launch the biggest attack against Israel. Ever,

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Speaker 2: I don't know why you'd announced that ahead of time,

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Speaker 1: That's why you would announce you're about to launch the

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Speaker 1: biggest talk attack ever. Got gotcha? Yeah, yeah, we're serious.

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Speaker 1: Now let's have some meetings or something. We'll bring the food,

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Speaker 1: uh yeah Israel, to which Israel will say yeah, no,

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Speaker 1: peacefully side by side with islamis suvado wipe them off

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Speaker 1: the map. Moving along, I thought this was interesting. A

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Speaker 1: everyone blamed the Boeing. But it's not so simple, writes

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Speaker 1: Joon O. Sarah for The Free Press. Essentially, he reached

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Speaker 1: investigate because something weird happened. And they also made the

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Speaker 1: point that I tell you what, once you lose your reputation,

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Speaker 1: this is true for human beings too. Kids. Take it

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Speaker 1: from your old uncle Joe. Reputation takes lifetime to build

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Speaker 1: in a minute to destroy. Once you've lost your reputation,

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Speaker 1: hope for Boeing that's the case that it wasn't a

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Speaker 2: Yesterday was the anniversary of two very very big deals.

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Speaker 5: And you can't stop Aaron from going nuclear, which they

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Speaker 5: Set upon getting the Americans directly involved. As of right now,

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Speaker 1: And this is the whole deal, right, this is the

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Speaker 1: But meanwhile, I'm sure the strategy involves we'll also destroy

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Speaker 2: We've been playing Bill maher jokes throughout the morning, and

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Speaker 2: he his Friday night HBO show is what we're playing

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Speaker 2: the jokes from. He's got another show that I watched

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Speaker 2: regularly where he sits down in a basement and smokes

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Speaker 2: pot with various celebrities and has very very long conversations.

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Speaker 1: I love that show. It's very interesting. And he drinks

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Speaker 1: hard liquor too. He drinks whiskey and smokes spot and

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Speaker 1: I'm by the end.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I must say I usually have to bail out

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Speaker 2: because he starts to get laughing at everything, and he

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Speaker 2: spaces out all the.

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Speaker 1: Time because he's I, well, were we just talking about?

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Speaker 2: I'll say anyway, But I've seen some really really good

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Speaker 2: conversations with comedians, actors, politicians, all kinds of different people.

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Speaker 2: He had Sean Penn on the other day, and I

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Speaker 2: haven't actually seen this, but he got angry at Sean

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Speaker 2: Penn because Sean ped came in and criticized the Bill

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Speaker 2: Maher for meeting with Trump, for sitting down with Trump,

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Speaker 2: and Bill Martin said, I wish I could say the

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Speaker 2: word because it makes it better. You met with effing

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Speaker 2: Castro and Hugo Chavez. That's pretty good.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, wow, I wonder where it went from there. I

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Speaker 1: know I might check it out. I might have to

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Speaker 1: tune in. Yeah, that crowd whatever, all right, good for you.

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Speaker 1: I know they just wear me out.

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Speaker 2: I do need to watch some highlights of the parade

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Speaker 2: if you if you haven't seen the on the military parade,

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Speaker 2: the Army Birthday parade, if you haven't seen the soldiers

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Speaker 2: marching with those robot dogs. I thought that was freaking

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Speaker 2: cool and frightening because we ain't the only people that

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Speaker 2: are gonna have robot dogs.

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Speaker 1: Wow wow, Yeah, yeah, I wish i'd seen it. I

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Speaker 1: actually it was a busy day Saturday, and I flipped

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Speaker 1: on the TV a couple of times when I had

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Speaker 1: a free moment to see if there was any coverage

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Speaker 1: of it, and I really didn't get any. I'm sure

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Speaker 1: they did on Fox.

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Speaker 2: I was talking to my dad last night for Father's

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Speaker 2: Danny said they watched the whole thing beginning to end,

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Speaker 2: and I found it very, very enjoyable.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I'll bet it's available somewhere to watch again.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, the more I hear about it, the more

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Speaker 1: I think it was everything we were hoping it would be,

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Speaker 1: and really nothing of what everybody on the left, particularly

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Speaker 1: said it would be an Unamerican North Korea style blah

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Speaker 1: blah blah. Actually some people on the right said that too,

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Speaker 1: Come to think of it, you only used to get

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Speaker 1: juiced in it. We we'll finish strong next. I have

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Speaker 1: not been invited.

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Speaker 6: The only reason I would not accept an invitation is

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Speaker 6: because I see I see.

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Speaker 5: No.

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Speaker 1: So it's a long flight and I see no.

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Speaker 3: Really you meet with I don't castro into gushia Vez,

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Speaker 3: but not the president of the United States.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I saw good results come out of some of

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Speaker 6: those things. In terms of generalize that I had, I

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Speaker 6: don't think that there's anything that that I would I

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Speaker 6: just personally wouldn't trust anything that was said in the room.

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Speaker 3: Personality. It's not a it's a it's not a matter

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Speaker 3: of matter of trusting it. It's a better of seeing it,

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Speaker 3: matter of experiencing, matter of knowing it.

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Speaker 4: More.

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Speaker 3: No, it's like saying I don't want this UH medical

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Speaker 3: test because.

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Speaker 1: You know I don't want to know. I want to know.

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Speaker 2: That's Bill Maher talking to Sean Penn, high and drunk

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Speaker 2: in the basement of his UH shack that he has

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Speaker 2: behind his house.

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Speaker 1: Wow, these people are so.

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Speaker 2: Self reverential of themselves in a way that the rest

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Speaker 2: of the world doesn't get. Sean Penn, I, of course

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Speaker 2: I met with Hugo Chavez because I feel like I

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Speaker 2: accomplished a lot.

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Speaker 1: You didn't accomplish anything.

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Speaker 2: He doesn't care what you think, Sean Penn, And I

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Speaker 2: don't know if i'd accomplish anything with Trump. You feel

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Speaker 2: like you could meet with a different present and accomplish

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Speaker 2: something because you're Shawn pen.

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Speaker 1: Man, what are you talking about? Yeah, that was reasonably

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Speaker 1: bright guy trying desperately to find an argument and being unsuccessful.

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Speaker 2: You think these communist leaders meet with you because they

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Speaker 2: want to hear your valuable input on things, and it

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Speaker 2: isn't just because it helps give them some legitimacy that

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Speaker 2: a giant movie star.

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Speaker 1: Is meeting with them I would have dropped everything and

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Speaker 1: paid all expenses to meet with Joe Biden. Of me too.

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Speaker 2: If somebody said I could get you a dinner with

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Speaker 2: a bu you and three other people and the president

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Speaker 2: name a president, I'm going are you kidding?

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a well, it's Trump de arrangement syndrome.

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Speaker 2: It's also over and over inflating the fact that he

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Speaker 2: thinks he has a hand in major policies around the

527
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Speaker 2: world because he's Shawn ben or something.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, how odd? Huh? So touched on this briefly.

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Speaker 1: Did you want to talk about this survivor of the

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Speaker 1: Air India crash because I'm reading more from aviation experts

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Speaker 1: and they are virtually all saying pilot error on the

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Speaker 1: plane crash.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they said the good news though, right, isn't that

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Speaker 2: good news? It's better than mechanicalry. You can do something

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Speaker 2: about pilot error. Get better pilots.

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Speaker 1: Well, hang on now, My next sentence was going to

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Speaker 1: be the The consensus was that the majority of accidents

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Speaker 1: are either pilot error or maintenance error. According to airline

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Speaker 1: consultantslet's forums, which are not necessarily going to be correct

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Speaker 1: because sometimes, you know, people bark up the wrong tree.

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Speaker 1: But in pilot's forums they point out that the seven

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Speaker 1: thirty seven Max that was the Boeing plane that had

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Speaker 1: so many problems a number of years ago. Unlike that plane,

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Speaker 1: the Dreamliners tried and true, any tendency toward mechanical failure

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Speaker 1: would have emerged years and years ago. It is a

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Speaker 1: great trusted aircraft and pilots know it. So why do

547
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Speaker 1: most airline professionals believe it was pilot error? Mainly because

548
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:37,959
Speaker 1: the videos showed a series of things that didn't make

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Speaker 1: sense to them. First, the flaps on the wings were up,

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Speaker 1: a huge mistake. The upposition pushes the plane down to

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Speaker 1: use during landings. Second, the landing gear was never attracted.

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Speaker 1: That's something pilot usually takes care of the moment the

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Speaker 1: plane leaves the ground. Anybody who's ever flown knows that.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you're barely off their ground and you hear

555
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Speaker 1: the clunk clunk on a form used by professional pilots.

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Speaker 1: I saw these two observations again and again, writes this

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Speaker 1: journalist in a thread, Gear down, flap up. And then

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Speaker 1: this retired pilot who flew for Delta for years and years,

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Speaker 1: found the flat mistake extremely puzzling, to say the least.

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Speaker 1: Quote At Delta, the rule is that you don't even

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Speaker 1: begin taxinging to the runway until both the pilot and

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Speaker 1: co pilot have physically looked at the flaps. They turn

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Speaker 1: and look out the window to make sure the flaps

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Speaker 1: are in the right position. It's almost fail proof, and

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Speaker 1: several people speculating that perhaps the pilot in Air India

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Speaker 1: veterans somehow hit the flap control instead of the landing

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Speaker 1: gear control and was he drunk or stupid or poorly trained,

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Speaker 1: or what's the deal or all of the above. I

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Speaker 1: don't know. The other factor was one hundred and seven

570
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Speaker 1: degrees that day, the flight was full passenger's luggage and fuel.

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Speaker 1: Another experts said if the crew didn't factor in the

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Speaker 1: high temperature to set the correct engine thrust to account

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Speaker 1: for the plane's weight, the engines might not have generated

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Speaker 1: enough power to keep the plane airborne after lift off.

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Speaker 2: I just I think that that guy who survived in

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Speaker 2: C eleven e he should already have an agent so

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Speaker 2: he can become a motivational speaker or a religious figure,

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Speaker 2: or get on dancing with the stars, or something all

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Speaker 2: of the above.

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Speaker 1: Are you kidding? Who watch final thoughts? Who watch final thoughts?

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Speaker 1: Go have some final thoughts. Hooray, here's your host final thoughts.

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Speaker 1: Joe Getty quick on here meeting Michael the opening clip

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Speaker 1: of the show. That's gonna be my final sock. Let's

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Speaker 1: get a final thought for everybody on the cow to

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Speaker 1: wrap up the show for the day. There he is, Michael.

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Speaker 1: Line is a little pressing the button switching final thought Michael, Oh.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, just I always get an amusement when movie stars

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Speaker 7: think they made a difference. That's like me writing to

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Speaker 7: Donald Trump and he's saying, I want you to close

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Speaker 7: the border, and then he does. You know, a couple

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Speaker 7: months later, I say he did it because of my letter.

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Speaker 1: That's a good one, kidding. Katie Greener esteemed to us

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Speaker 1: woman as a final thought.

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Speaker 7: Katie, I like what you guys were saying earlier along

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Speaker 7: the lines of wow, so much has changed and I

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Speaker 7: feel so different today after the no Kings protests.

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Speaker 1: Right, yeah, what now? Who cares? Jack?

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Speaker 8: Final thought for us fans of competitive eating like me

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Speaker 8: are rejoicing as Joey Chestnut, friend of the Armstrong in

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Speaker 8: Geddy Show, the World's Greatest Eater, will be returning to

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Speaker 8: Nathan's Hot Dog eating contest on fourth of July.

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Speaker 1: They worked out their differences. He didn't get to go

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Speaker 1: last year, he will be there this year. Fabulous, and

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Speaker 1: I'm giving my final thoughts to Douglas Murray.

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Speaker 9: Every single country, including this one, will condemn Israel, and

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Speaker 9: they will go back to their homes and they will

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Speaker 9: say in private, thank God for Israel. The Saudis, the Barralis,

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Speaker 9: the Egyptians, the Libyans, the Lebanese, everybody will say thank

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Speaker 9: God they did it because nobody else would true that.

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Speaker 2: Armstrong and Geddy wrapping up another grueling four hour workday.

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Speaker 1: So many people think so little time. Go to Armstrong

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Speaker 1: Geddy dot com all sorts, great clicks there. We'll see

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Speaker 1: you then. God bless America. I'm strong and getty. What

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Speaker 1: do we want to be? Losers? Or winners. I want winners.

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Speaker 1: We smell like winning around here. I think your star

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Speaker 1: spangled Washington.

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Speaker 7: They are the true hero, greatest dynasty ever and everyone

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Speaker 7: knows it.

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Speaker 1: So let's go out with a bang Selma Hayak for

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