1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:02,520 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Best of the Week for What's Right 2 00:00:02,600 --> 00:00:05,240 Speaker 1: with Nick Right the best takes and moments from this 3 00:00:05,320 --> 00:00:08,240 Speaker 1: week on the show Enjoy. 4 00:00:09,320 --> 00:00:11,760 Speaker 2: Luca was on the cover of Men's Health magazine, looking 5 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:15,560 Speaker 2: very slender. He came out with a quote saying, just visually, 6 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:18,520 Speaker 2: I would say that my whole body looks better. How 7 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 2: are you feeling about Luca's transitions? 8 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:25,239 Speaker 1: So a couple things. One is, first, sorry to I 9 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 1: pointed this out on TV, and I'm not trying to 10 00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:30,960 Speaker 1: pick on anybody, but this, to me is one of 11 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:33,920 Speaker 1: the main takeaways from the article. Remember I told you 12 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 1: guys Ai doesn't know sports and that Ai hallucinates sports. 13 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:44,279 Speaker 1: This article got marred a bit by the fact that 14 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 1: the author included in it an anecdote about how Luca, 15 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:53,279 Speaker 1: when he came into the league had a forty two 16 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 1: inch vertical that was measured at the NBA Combine. The 17 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:04,400 Speaker 1: problem with that is twofold. One is anyone that's watched 18 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 1: ten minutes of Lukadanic at any moment of his career 19 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 1: knows he never had a forty two inch vertical. The 20 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:17,399 Speaker 1: other problem is Lukdancic did not go to the combine, 21 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:21,759 Speaker 1: so there is no place to measure his vertical, So 22 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 1: what happened there? The most obvious answer, is figured out 23 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 1: by some Internet sleuths, was if you googled Lukdanciic vertical, 24 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:40,959 Speaker 1: the top AI result was that Luk Adancic had a 25 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:44,479 Speaker 1: forty two inch vertical measured at the NBA Combine, which 26 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 1: then links you to an article about Dante Divincenzo's forty 27 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 1: two inch vertical at the NBA Combine. But AI hallucinated it. 28 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 1: I guess they saw the chu in both names, white guys, 29 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 1: the same draft class, and they just made it up. 30 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 1: So again, I'm not saying AI can't be used for things. 31 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's not you know, the next, the future, 32 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:11,640 Speaker 1: all of that. I am saying, for some reason, AI 33 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 1: does not know sports and can't figure it out. That's 34 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 1: first thing. Second thing is this my other takeaway from 35 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 1: that article demands. I'm going to read you a line 36 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:29,640 Speaker 1: in it which I found fascinating. The facility which is 37 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:33,360 Speaker 1: located in the town where Doncic is vacationed every summer 38 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 1: since he was a teen. That's important. The facility which 39 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 1: is located in the town where Doncic has vacationed every 40 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 1: summer since he was a teen, didn't have weights until 41 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 1: earlier this month, when he had dumbbells, barbells, weight plates 42 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 1: and medballs trucked in. So here's why that's noteworthy to me. 43 00:02:57,080 --> 00:02:59,960 Speaker 1: Luke every summer goes back to this town in Slovenia 44 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 1: UH and trains. But his training has always just included 45 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 1: hoop it, you know what I mean. He plays ball 46 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:10,359 Speaker 1: and does drills, all of it. Weight draining was never 47 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:14,239 Speaker 1: a big part of it for him. And so now 48 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 1: you guys know, I feel like the go ahead. 49 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 3: Oh, it's so cool just being able to get a 50 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 3: bus of. 51 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 2: Uh weights, Oh just yet to wherever you're Yeah, yeah. 52 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 1: Of course. But the the I felt that the whiplash 53 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:41,840 Speaker 1: effect of you know, Luca's fat, out of shape drinking 54 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 1: problem was far too strong, considering that without ever being 55 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 1: in peak physical condition, he had one of the greatest 56 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 1: opening six year stretches of a career. 57 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 3: Ever. 58 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 1: This is where I am contractually obligated to remind the 59 00:03:57,440 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 1: audience that Luka Doncic all ready has made more first 60 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 1: team All nbas than either Steph Curry or Chris Paul 61 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 1: and only has one less than Kevin freaking Durant. He's 62 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 1: twenty six years old. That's how great he's been. Now, 63 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:18,480 Speaker 1: he did have a down year, and part of it 64 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 1: was he was a little out of shape. He was 65 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 1: also sad. He also got hurt, He also got traded, 66 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 1: and all, you know, all of those things. So I 67 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:36,839 Speaker 1: think that is I think that is important. It's not 68 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 1: giving him an excuse. But I just thought twelve months 69 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:44,800 Speaker 1: ago today, before Luca got hurt, before Luca got traded, 70 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 1: when Luca was coming off a finals appearance, nobody thought 71 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:52,039 Speaker 1: and he had beaten in round two Shay and in 72 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:55,360 Speaker 1: round three Anthony Edwards, and had averaged thirty four to 73 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 1: nine and ten in the regular season. Nobody thought Shay 74 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 1: or Anthony Edwards was better than him. Now I think 75 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 1: it's like conventional wisdom that those guys are better than him, 76 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:08,560 Speaker 1: and Shade certainly has earned it. I guess Anthony. I 77 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 1: don't think Quhite has. But whatever, the point I'm making 78 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 1: is this, Luca, in non tip top physical condition, was 79 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:19,920 Speaker 1: already well on his way to being one of the 80 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:26,360 Speaker 1: greatest players ever. Luca like this should be the early 81 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:27,599 Speaker 1: favorite for League MVP. 82 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 3: Well you don't, and. 83 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 2: You don't think with his play style that him being 84 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:34,120 Speaker 2: a little bit thinner might affect it. 85 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 1: So I don't know he's going yeah, but I think 86 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 1: I think that if he is, I don't think he's 87 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:44,799 Speaker 1: going to be skinny. I think he's going to be lean, 88 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I think if you just 89 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:52,279 Speaker 1: replace some of what was fat the Lakers, Yeah, you 90 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:54,359 Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like, I would bet he weighs 91 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:57,040 Speaker 1: about the same, but look at me, if not. 92 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 2: More, Yeah, I mean, muscle weighs more than fat, right, 93 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 2: I mean, so he looks a lot thinner than he was. 94 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 2: He looks a lot thinner, you know what I mean. 95 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 2: So I just, yeah, I don't think you want actually 96 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 2: skinny Luca, but thinner Luca. I think what is. 97 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:19,279 Speaker 1: Helpful. And I think that he has taken this, you 98 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:22,599 Speaker 1: know what happened last year to heart. And this was 99 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:26,240 Speaker 1: the thing that I warned the MAVs about after the 100 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:29,479 Speaker 1: trade that even if they were going to be right, 101 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 1: they're going to be wrong. Even if they were right, 102 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:35,600 Speaker 1: that if they didn't trade him and they signed him 103 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:38,479 Speaker 1: to an extension, he was just gonna get fat and 104 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:44,160 Speaker 1: out of shape and all these things. He by trading 105 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:50,040 Speaker 1: him and motivating him and insulting him. They then put 106 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 1: this extra chip on his shoulder. Now people can say, 107 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 1: why didn't he do it during the year. I don't 108 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 1: think you can do this type of thing during a season, 109 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:01,160 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? I think you have to this. 110 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 1: You n need an offseason. And he's about to be 111 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:06,840 Speaker 1: playing a ton of ball at euro Basket at for 112 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 1: Slovenia and I right now he would be my early 113 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 1: season pick to win League MVP next year. 114 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 2: And if he just torched Dallas every single time they 115 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 2: play and it just doesn't even matter. 116 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 1: God, I just can't wait if that were to happen. Also, 117 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 1: by the way, shout out to Marco in the chat 118 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 1: watching from Slovenia. 119 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 3: Yes, shout out Marco. Very cool. 120 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:39,240 Speaker 1: Let's do Matt Stafford here and then we get to 121 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 1: the listeners. 122 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, so Matt st Everett has been dealing with some 123 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 2: backsword on this and is set to miss another week 124 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 2: of camp. You've been high on the RAMS. Does this 125 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 2: affect it at all? 126 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 3: I think the guy just doesn't want to go to 127 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 3: training camp. He's old. Oh old. 128 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 1: I hope that's it. That would be great. That would 129 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 1: be an awesome result here. If it's just old guy 130 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 1: doesn't want to practice. So here is before training camp, 131 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 1: there was one story of potential contender that hit my radar, 132 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 1: and that was the CJ. Stroud's shoulder soreness. I was like, ooh, 133 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 1: that's something to watch CJ Stroud, you know, like that 134 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 1: he wasn't able to do full throwing practice or whatever, 135 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 1: like that's something watch. That seems to have subsided. Okay, 136 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 1: but it was. It hit my radar in training camp. 137 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:42,320 Speaker 1: We've been lucky so far, fingers crossed. There hasn't been 138 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 1: the like devastating superstar injury, and there hasn't been the 139 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:52,079 Speaker 1: contender that has just been hit with a bunch of 140 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:56,839 Speaker 1: you know, contributor injuries, at least not yet. So there 141 00:08:56,880 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 1: have been to me two made stories out of training 142 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 1: camp so far for contenders. One is a positive one. 143 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:08,800 Speaker 1: One is a worrisome one. The positive one and people 144 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 1: can say this is you know, Chiefs colored glasses, but 145 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:18,439 Speaker 1: I'm not wrong about this. The Chiefs rookie first round 146 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 1: pick Get who was considered a top ten talent, who 147 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:29,120 Speaker 1: fell because people thought his knee was not right and 148 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 1: he might not be healthy for a good portion of 149 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:35,680 Speaker 1: his rookie year. Not only being healthy the first day 150 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 1: of camp, but being slotted as the starting left tackle, 151 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:43,720 Speaker 1: not competing with Jalen Moore, who they signed to be 152 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 1: the left tackle for that spot, and just being their 153 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 1: left tackle from day one of camp today to right 154 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 1: now is one of the biggest positive stories for any 155 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 1: true contender this training camp, because if they have that 156 00:09:57,280 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 1: spot locked down, and then you have Jail Moore, the 157 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:03,600 Speaker 1: guy they signed from San Francisco, and Juwan Taylor, the 158 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:05,840 Speaker 1: right tackle who's been a bit of a disappointment with 159 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:08,960 Speaker 1: Kansas City since they signed him from Jacksonville, competing on 160 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:11,559 Speaker 1: the right side, then all of a sudden, the Chiefs 161 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 1: offensive line is totally different. So and there was everyone 162 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:19,320 Speaker 1: agreed that Josh Simmons had the talent to potentially be 163 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 1: the number one tackle in his draft class, but the 164 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:26,560 Speaker 1: injury was so worried some he slid. If the knee 165 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:31,000 Speaker 1: is really right, then the Chiefs dealing at taking care 166 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 1: of one of the most important and one of the 167 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:38,680 Speaker 1: most expensive spots in football by drafting a guy at 168 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 1: thirty two is a game changer that's in the positive 169 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:46,439 Speaker 1: direction for a contender, in a negative direction for a contender. 170 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:56,840 Speaker 1: It's this Stafford story because aside from confidence for your 171 00:10:56,960 --> 00:11:01,440 Speaker 1: team's secondary, there is nothing positive that comes out of 172 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:05,600 Speaker 1: Jimmy G practicing and playing in trailing camp. And you 173 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:13,679 Speaker 1: need desperately healthy Matt Stafford in order to contend, and 174 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:16,839 Speaker 1: I think the Rams can contend. I liked now poor 175 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 1: DeVante Adams. He's like, you got to be kidding me. 176 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:21,440 Speaker 1: I got massive, I got Jimmy G throwing me the 177 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:26,480 Speaker 1: wall again. I love Puka, I really like their d line. 178 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:29,960 Speaker 1: I obviously love McVeigh. I think DeVante is good as 179 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 1: a number two with the Rams, but it all comes 180 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:37,960 Speaker 1: undone without Stafford, and Stafford is thirty seven. 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The Madden rating go. 216 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:29,840 Speaker 2: Ahead, So I don't know about indefensible, but the ninety 217 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:32,920 Speaker 2: nine club came out for Baden twenty six. Your guy 218 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 2: Mahomes was snubbed. Josh Allen Lamar Jackson are the two 219 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 2: eight both f ninety nine ratings? Yeah, how do you 220 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:43,840 Speaker 2: feel about this? Is this legit? I think it's pretty fair. 221 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:47,680 Speaker 2: I think that Lamar Jackson and Josh Allen are much 222 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:51,600 Speaker 2: more Madden type quarterbacks than Patrick Mahomes is. Like Patrick 223 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:54,720 Speaker 2: Mahomes is more of an improviser. Lamar Jackson's obviously like 224 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 2: super fast, and Josh Allen's like a freak athlete. 225 00:13:58,400 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 3: He's huge running through dudes. 226 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 2: So it's like as far as games, like, if you 227 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 2: want to play Madden, like you're thinking, like you want 228 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 2: to play, you would rather play with Lamar Jackson or 229 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:07,560 Speaker 2: Josh how Okay. 230 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:09,520 Speaker 1: So that's a really interesting way to look at it. 231 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 1: And if that's the argument, that so be it. Listen, 232 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:21,400 Speaker 1: Mahomes coming into this year, in the six Maddens post, 233 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 1: his rookie post, his first year as a starter, he 234 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 1: was a ninety nine to four times, he was the 235 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 1: highest rated quarterback five times. The one time he wasn't 236 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 1: he was the third highest rated quarterback behind Brady and Rogers, 237 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:43,600 Speaker 1: and that was after the AFC Championship Game loss to Cincinnati. 238 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:47,280 Speaker 1: And he responded by having more yards than any player 239 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 1: in the history of the league, winning the Super Bowl MVP, 240 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:53,360 Speaker 1: winning the regular season MVP, and having arguably the greatest 241 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 1: quarterback season anyone's ever had. So I'm I'm not even 242 00:14:56,640 --> 00:15:00,360 Speaker 1: mad at Madden. Maybe they motivated him. I act actually, 243 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:06,840 Speaker 1: I I want to use this as an opportunity and listen, 244 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 1: Josh just won Super Bowl or I'm sorry, regular season 245 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 1: MVP had, you know, for a team that a lot 246 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 1: of people thought was not going to be good. Some 247 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:19,880 Speaker 1: people who had always been called a Bill's hater for 248 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:22,680 Speaker 1: just being right about the Bills then last year thought 249 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:26,560 Speaker 1: the Bills could be really good and that person was me, 250 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 1: but that it was because of Josh Allen, So it's fine. 251 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:35,240 Speaker 1: And Lamar has had basically back to back perfect regular season, 252 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 1: so you want to give him a ninety nine rating, 253 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 1: it's fine. I actually want to use this time here 254 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 1: to talk a little bit about Lamar and the Ravens, 255 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 1: because I was on Mina's podcast and she was a 256 00:15:53,880 --> 00:16:05,000 Speaker 1: gog that I was skeptical of the rape Vins and Mena, 257 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:10,280 Speaker 1: you know, said Lamar didn't play poorly in the playoff game, 258 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 1: which I find unbelievable, and said that basically she thought 259 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 1: I was being unfair to Lamar or the Ravens by 260 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 1: not I guess chalking up the same exact thing happening 261 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 1: every single year to just dumb luck and said, oh, 262 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 1: I didn't know you were a Ravens hater. And this 263 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:48,880 Speaker 1: is where as I said with her, I will break 264 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 1: k fabe for a moment. I adore Mina times. I know, 265 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 1: I call her my rival that I want to vanquish. 266 00:16:55,160 --> 00:16:58,480 Speaker 1: I think she's outstanding. It's the only reason I went 267 00:16:58,520 --> 00:17:01,640 Speaker 1: on a podcast with her at seven o'clock New York 268 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:04,720 Speaker 1: City time on the night before I was going to 269 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:09,439 Speaker 1: the Bahamas for a few days, and I think she 270 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:10,280 Speaker 1: does great work. 271 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 3: But I. 272 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:16,880 Speaker 1: There are two major points I want to make here. 273 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:22,720 Speaker 1: The first one is this, at what point does someone 274 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:28,879 Speaker 1: stop being a hater if they are constantly one of 275 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:34,719 Speaker 1: the only people provencorrect at what I'm just curious for 276 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:38,760 Speaker 1: the for the media and internet at large, at what 277 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:52,199 Speaker 1: point does hating transition to accurate skepticism or is the answer? 278 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:57,440 Speaker 1: Never is the answer? Nope? If the whole world acknowledges 279 00:17:57,880 --> 00:18:02,760 Speaker 1: this guy is just you know, dan close to a 280 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:06,919 Speaker 1: perfect player, who's had a couple perfect regular seasons, who's 281 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:13,480 Speaker 1: just bad timing for these awful moments and now twenty 282 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:16,560 Speaker 1: twenty three for Lamar, it was an awful game. Twenty 283 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:19,159 Speaker 1: twenty four, it was not an awful game. It was 284 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 1: a couple really awful moments that ruined an otherwise really 285 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:28,600 Speaker 1: good game by him. But I am and so because 286 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:33,240 Speaker 1: I didn't think Lamar was terrible in the Divisional round 287 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:36,800 Speaker 1: game against Buffalo. What I did think was a guy 288 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:42,000 Speaker 1: who was historically good all year about protecting the football 289 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:45,400 Speaker 1: having two turnovers in the first twenty minutes of that 290 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 1: game made it to where the best grade he could 291 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:55,680 Speaker 1: get for the games, like a C plus and especially 292 00:18:55,760 --> 00:19:05,000 Speaker 1: because they end up losing. And so the the question 293 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:10,199 Speaker 1: I truly have, and the question I truly have for 294 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:19,359 Speaker 1: the audiences is that hating is. And I'll use the 295 00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 1: Bills thing as an example. Every single year people called 296 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:28,399 Speaker 1: me a Bill's hater. Now I was a Bill's troll 297 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:31,359 Speaker 1: to a degree, and I said drop the banner, and 298 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 1: I poked fun and I did all that stuff. But 299 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:39,399 Speaker 1: I was also right every single time. And then this 300 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:42,560 Speaker 1: past year when I thought the pendulum had swung too 301 00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:45,280 Speaker 1: far in the other direction, and I said, I actually 302 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:46,800 Speaker 1: think the Bills are going to be excellent. I think 303 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:52,359 Speaker 1: they're once again the biggest threat to the Chiefs, And 304 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:55,040 Speaker 1: that's the opposite of hating, and it was just correct. Right. 305 00:19:56,000 --> 00:20:01,719 Speaker 1: So then the and yes, guys, when I say Mahomes 306 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:03,920 Speaker 1: at the most yards in the single season ever, that's 307 00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 1: that is exactly the It's exactly what I'm saying. 308 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:07,879 Speaker 3: It is. 309 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:11,639 Speaker 1: It's total yards for the full season, everything all put together. 310 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:13,919 Speaker 1: The most yards any players I ever accounted for was 311 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:19,480 Speaker 1: twenty twenty two Patrick Mahomes. So the Lamar stuff to 312 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:28,119 Speaker 1: me is interesting because I it's not only that I 313 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 1: don't think I'm a hater, but I think a lot 314 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:39,480 Speaker 1: of other really smart people who cover this league are 315 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:48,480 Speaker 1: in willful denial because they like him and because they 316 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:53,840 Speaker 1: want it to be different than it is, and because 317 00:20:53,960 --> 00:21:00,320 Speaker 1: and this part I really empathize with, because they detectest 318 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:07,919 Speaker 1: so much, so many of his original actual haters, the 319 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 1: people who said he should change positions coming in the league, 320 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 1: or he'd never be any good or any of that stuff, 321 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:19,119 Speaker 1: and so all of that has created this very odd 322 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 1: world where folks patronize him a bit in a way. 323 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 1: They discuss what is the only hole on his resume, 324 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:41,479 Speaker 1: but it's the hole that matters the most, which is 325 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:44,600 Speaker 1: in that league, for that position, how you play in 326 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:49,639 Speaker 1: the postseason. And so this is the question that I 327 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:53,439 Speaker 1: would just have to everyone, Folks on Ravens Twitter who 328 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:56,800 Speaker 1: are mad at me because they think the team is 329 00:21:56,960 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 1: absolutely stacked, and I have questions about its received position, 330 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:08,480 Speaker 1: and folks in the media that think I'm unfair in 331 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:12,240 Speaker 1: my skepticism. Because one of the other things that happened 332 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:14,800 Speaker 1: when I was talking again I think Mina is outstanding 333 00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:20,840 Speaker 1: with Mina was Stafford came up and I talked about 334 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:25,600 Speaker 1: how if I were like I kind of impromptu was 335 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 1: talking about how he might be my third pick of 336 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 1: any quarterback in the league to have in the postseason. 337 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:40,240 Speaker 1: That would go Mahomes Alan Stafford, And she seemed legitimately 338 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:45,280 Speaker 1: a ghast that I was not including Lamar in the 339 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 1: math for that, and I was legitimately aghast that she 340 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:53,280 Speaker 1: possibly could include Lamar in the math for that specific question. 341 00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:57,240 Speaker 1: You could have any quarterback for a playoff run, like, well, 342 00:22:57,280 --> 00:23:00,800 Speaker 1: I'm not going to pick the guy who's literally never 343 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:04,240 Speaker 1: like shown us that he can do that. It would 344 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:07,080 Speaker 1: seem that would seem silly to me. You might be like, well, 345 00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:09,679 Speaker 1: Josh hasn't shown it. Josh has had plenty of playoff 346 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 1: runs where he's played excellent throughout. He just the team 347 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 1: wasn't good enough or did see that from Lamar? But 348 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:17,359 Speaker 1: that's fine. This is kind of an old hat. We've 349 00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:20,360 Speaker 1: talked about this each of the last few years, because each 350 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:23,200 Speaker 1: of the last few years it has gone exactly like this 351 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 1: unbelievable regular season that I look at with a quizzical 352 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:28,399 Speaker 1: eye because I want to see how it works in 353 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:32,720 Speaker 1: the postseason. Then Lamar has one of, if not his 354 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:36,480 Speaker 1: downright worst game in the postseason, and then everybody has 355 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 1: this moment of clarity for about three days, where after 356 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:43,200 Speaker 1: the year people are like, damn, Nick was right without 357 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:45,640 Speaker 1: saying Nick was right, and then come this time of year, 358 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:47,639 Speaker 1: it's like, no, this will year will be different. So 359 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:52,000 Speaker 1: this is my question because Raven's Twitter, Raven's Twitter thinks 360 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:56,640 Speaker 1: the team is absolutely loaded, so obviously like there shouldn't 361 00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:59,399 Speaker 1: be any excuses there. But my question in the media 362 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:06,960 Speaker 1: is this, if it were to happen again, same be 363 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:09,720 Speaker 1: to the last couple of years, is Lamar gonna win MVP? 364 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:12,600 Speaker 1: He is the MVP's top two MVP, all of it, 365 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:16,200 Speaker 1: and then once again the Ravens don't play to their 366 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:19,960 Speaker 1: seed or don't play to their talent or you know, 367 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 1: and it's because of massive quarterback mistakes early in a 368 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:28,360 Speaker 1: playoff game that puts him in a hole that they 369 00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:31,640 Speaker 1: can't quite dig themselves out of. Will this year then 370 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:35,880 Speaker 1: be enough? Is it, like before, the sample is too 371 00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:40,080 Speaker 1: small or will it still just be a randomness, dumb 372 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:44,840 Speaker 1: luck of the playoffs? I find it really fascinating because 373 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:51,320 Speaker 1: it is absolutely true that the only thing standing between 374 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:58,199 Speaker 1: Lamar and being in the discussion demanse as one of 375 00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:06,400 Speaker 1: the Mixer seven greatest quarterbacks of all time, is one 376 00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:09,600 Speaker 1: great playoff run. That's all that's standing between It's just 377 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:15,000 Speaker 1: one because the regular season stuff is so unbelievable. But 378 00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:24,800 Speaker 1: the only thing standing between him and being in a 379 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:30,919 Speaker 1: very unique class of all time athletes in a in 380 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:35,880 Speaker 1: a not great sense, is deja vu all over again 381 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:38,680 Speaker 1: one more time. And it makes this year one of 382 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:41,320 Speaker 1: the most fascinating. It makes it makes the Ravens and 383 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:45,639 Speaker 1: Lamar one of the most fascinating stories of the season. Uh. 384 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:53,800 Speaker 1: And it also I am I'm really excited to watch it, 385 00:25:54,640 --> 00:26:01,880 Speaker 1: and I am really excited to see how people react 386 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:11,119 Speaker 1: myself included to how this full season plays out. And 387 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:15,440 Speaker 1: so like it was, it's back to back years. It's 388 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:19,800 Speaker 1: all been right there, all been. And that's one other 389 00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:21,520 Speaker 1: thing I want to say, because one of the things 390 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 1: Mena pointed out was Dvoa has over the last quarter 391 00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:30,280 Speaker 1: century de Monday, the two best teams, the two best 392 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:34,320 Speaker 1: five year stretches by any team to not make a 393 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:38,280 Speaker 1: Super Bowl are the last five years of the Buffalo 394 00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:41,960 Speaker 1: Bills and the last five years of the Baltimore Ravens. 395 00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:49,040 Speaker 1: And the point there that Mina made was, you know, 396 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:53,919 Speaker 1: basically that's an Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes stat, and 397 00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:56,560 Speaker 1: it's that these two teams were good enough to be 398 00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:59,639 Speaker 1: all time greats. They were just blocked by one of 399 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:02,240 Speaker 1: the great is, if not the greatest duo in NFL history. 400 00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:05,400 Speaker 1: And I pushed back on that too, because I think 401 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:08,800 Speaker 1: the Bills being on that list is a Andy Reid 402 00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:11,440 Speaker 1: and Patrick Mahomes stat because the Bills have lost to 403 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:15,840 Speaker 1: the Chiefs five times in this stretch all r I'm sorry, 404 00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:19,640 Speaker 1: four times. I don't know that. I feel the Ravens 405 00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:23,639 Speaker 1: being on that list is a Chief stat because only 406 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:26,600 Speaker 1: one of those years have the Chiefs been the team 407 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:30,200 Speaker 1: to block the Ravens. They haven't gotten to that level yet. 408 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:33,199 Speaker 1: So we'll see, and I listen, you believe in the 409 00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:35,879 Speaker 1: Ravens this year year. 410 00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:39,320 Speaker 3: NFL is wide open this year. See what he does. 411 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:45,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, we'll see. I have a feeling it will 412 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:50,880 Speaker 1: be like every year, unbelievable. In the regular season, they 413 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:53,399 Speaker 1: lose a couple of games they probably shouldn't lose that 414 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:57,120 Speaker 1: are a little odd, but the it is jaw dropping. 415 00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:03,520 Speaker 1: And then come the playoffs, we're gonna be like, wow, 416 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:08,640 Speaker 1: this team sure looks different, wonder why? And then but listen, 417 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:11,399 Speaker 1: maybe I'll be wrong. Maybe I'll be wrong. 418 00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:17,359 Speaker 2: So Brown's owner Jimmy Haslam has distanced himself from the 419 00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:20,159 Speaker 2: Shador Sanders pick, saying that the GM was the one 420 00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:23,240 Speaker 2: who made that call and not him. So why wouldn't 421 00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:27,120 Speaker 2: he want stake on such a low risk, high reward situation. 422 00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:32,399 Speaker 1: So listen, I think he is just trying to I 423 00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:35,120 Speaker 1: don't think he's trying to distance himself as much as 424 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:38,480 Speaker 1: what he's trying to do is make it clear or 425 00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 1: at least clean up a bit. No, the GM's in charge, 426 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:47,120 Speaker 1: not me. Here is what I find so interesting about 427 00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:51,760 Speaker 1: the Chador situation right now. I was not a Shadoor guy. 428 00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:57,200 Speaker 1: I was one of I think the first people in 429 00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:02,360 Speaker 1: the mock draft community that had Shador early in the process, 430 00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:06,160 Speaker 1: slipping to the back half of Round one, talking about 431 00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:08,680 Speaker 1: that the Steelers might not need to trade up if 432 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:11,400 Speaker 1: they need to get him. I talked a lot about 433 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:15,200 Speaker 1: how I thought there was too much discussion about Shador's 434 00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:19,640 Speaker 1: personality and not enough discussion about his lack of arm talent, 435 00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:21,800 Speaker 1: and I just didn't look at him as like a 436 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:25,280 Speaker 1: blue chip prospect. So I was not a Shadoor guy. 437 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 1: And now the however, because of where he is and 438 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:33,360 Speaker 1: the quarterbacks that he is competing with. I find myself 439 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:36,760 Speaker 1: feeling like they've got to start him at some point, 440 00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:41,640 Speaker 1: because here's the deal. Kenny Pickett is injured and not 441 00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:46,360 Speaker 1: an NFL quarterback. There is a zero percent chance Kenny 442 00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:54,480 Speaker 1: Pickett is the Steeler's answer at quarterback. Zero percent. The Steelers, 443 00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:56,920 Speaker 1: pardon me, there is a zero percent chance he wasn't. 444 00:29:56,920 --> 00:30:00,480 Speaker 1: The Steelers answer that Kenny Pickett is the Browns answer quarterback, 445 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:06,600 Speaker 1: so cross him out. Joe Flacco is forty years old. 446 00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:11,320 Speaker 1: There is a zero percent chance Joe Flacco is their 447 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:19,200 Speaker 1: long term answer at quarterback, so cross him out. Dylan Gabriel, sorry, 448 00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:22,560 Speaker 1: and you're not gonna like this, demase, he's too small. 449 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:27,440 Speaker 1: There is a zero percent chance Dylan Gabriel can be 450 00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:31,080 Speaker 1: a nice backup, maybe a spot starter. There is a 451 00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:36,160 Speaker 1: zero percent chance Dylan Gabriel is the Browns franchise quarterback 452 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:42,280 Speaker 1: three years from now. Shadoor, there is a five percent 453 00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:49,440 Speaker 1: chance Shadoor is the Browns franchise quarterback. Five percent got 454 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:53,400 Speaker 1: more than one, less than ten somewhere in there, when 455 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:57,800 Speaker 1: the other three guys are a combined zero percent, and 456 00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:01,640 Speaker 1: you're gonna be a terrible team the moment you know, 457 00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:04,520 Speaker 1: you can start Flacco to start the year, but the 458 00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:08,480 Speaker 1: moment that the year has gotten away from you, you 459 00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:12,160 Speaker 1: gotta play shittor. And that's the other weird thing. Haslam 460 00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:17,640 Speaker 1: was like Andrew picks the players, Stefanski sets the rock, 461 00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:20,480 Speaker 1: you know, decide too plays, but then also said in 462 00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:24,920 Speaker 1: that same SoundBite, obviously both young guys need to play 463 00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:28,960 Speaker 1: this year. I mean, Haslm's not the greatest donor just 464 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:29,720 Speaker 1: just flat. 465 00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:31,520 Speaker 3: Like both of them just saying that this year is 466 00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:33,360 Speaker 3: like a waste. 467 00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:36,480 Speaker 1: Well, I mean I don't. I mean, it seems. 468 00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:39,040 Speaker 3: Quarterbacks need to play this year. You kind of have 469 00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:40,840 Speaker 3: an idea of what your season. 470 00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:44,520 Speaker 1: To correct because they have two first round picks next 471 00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:47,240 Speaker 1: year and they yeah, I mean, Haslm is a tough 472 00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:51,760 Speaker 1: guy to work for. Danny's quarterback rankings are just an abomination, 473 00:31:52,840 --> 00:32:02,920 Speaker 1: and it just begs the question, why is it? Why 474 00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:07,280 Speaker 1: do we play the games if they're not going to count? 475 00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:11,960 Speaker 1: And again they are. I might be being a little 476 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:17,400 Speaker 1: harsh because the rankings are actually Danny's rankings. Go Mahomes, 477 00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:23,719 Speaker 1: Alan Burrow, Lamar, Herbert Stafford, Jaden Goff Baker hurts. So 478 00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:27,840 Speaker 1: here's the when I say they're an abomination, here's what 479 00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:33,160 Speaker 1: I mean, or here's here's what's unfair about that. If 480 00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:39,600 Speaker 1: he's simply flipped Hurts and Herbert, they're totally legitimate ranking. 481 00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:42,000 Speaker 1: And that's I'm not saying that's how I would have 482 00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:47,840 Speaker 1: it one through ten. But if it went Mahomes, Alan Burrow, Lamar, Hurts, Stafford, 483 00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:52,640 Speaker 1: Jaden Goff, Baker, Herbert, that's fine, Like, there's nothing crazy 484 00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:56,560 Speaker 1: about that. But having Justin Herbert ahead of Matt Stafford, 485 00:32:56,960 --> 00:33:01,200 Speaker 1: Jaden Daniels, Jared Goff, Baker Mayfield, and Jail and Hurts 486 00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:06,640 Speaker 1: for nothing other than vibes, it's just it's just ridiculous. 487 00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:10,600 Speaker 3: And that's pretty good. 488 00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:16,000 Speaker 1: So now, you demons, do you have an issue with 489 00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:17,920 Speaker 1: people who put Burrow ahead of Lamar? 490 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:23,800 Speaker 3: No, I could. 491 00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:25,920 Speaker 2: I could see those, I can flip those on any 492 00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:29,320 Speaker 2: given day. I feel like, so I could pull Lamar 493 00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:32,280 Speaker 2: before before Brow. I'm also not mad at Burrow being 494 00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:33,000 Speaker 2: before Lamar. 495 00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:38,280 Speaker 1: I'm not mad at Burrow being ahead of Lamar. However, again, 496 00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:42,760 Speaker 1: my job on this pod is to just be sports. 497 00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:47,520 Speaker 1: The sports worlds ras al Ghoul and you know, create 498 00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:52,240 Speaker 1: balance in the world where there otherwise isn't let me 499 00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:58,000 Speaker 1: defend Lamar for a moment here. It is unfair in 500 00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:09,120 Speaker 1: my opinion to penalize Lamar for bad postseason performances and 501 00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:12,719 Speaker 1: then lift up Joe Burrow, who the last couple of 502 00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:17,160 Speaker 1: years has had nonexistent postseason performances, you know what I mean? 503 00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:21,240 Speaker 1: So like that is it's a weird because you can't 504 00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:24,640 Speaker 1: argue as great as Burrow has been was in the 505 00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:28,600 Speaker 1: regular season last year, a lot of the MVP voters, 506 00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:32,680 Speaker 1: all pro voters, a lot of people thought Lamar was better. 507 00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:36,759 Speaker 1: And then obviously the year before Lamar was better in 508 00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:39,000 Speaker 1: the regular season is Burrow was hurt and wasn't that 509 00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:42,920 Speaker 1: effective early and Lamar won League MVP, and so the 510 00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:46,279 Speaker 1: knock on Lamar's postseason performances, but Burrow hasn't been in 511 00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:49,080 Speaker 1: the postseason. So like that one I do think is 512 00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:49,759 Speaker 1: a little. 513 00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:52,719 Speaker 2: Much of Lamar is my guy and you're ripping into 514 00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:55,920 Speaker 2: him the other day on Tuesday. But as postseason success, 515 00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:58,879 Speaker 2: I really can't argue, like that's that's fair. But how 516 00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:01,080 Speaker 2: much of that stuff is Burrow's fault? How much of 517 00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:04,040 Speaker 2: that stuff is Lamar's fault? As far as the postseason, 518 00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:06,799 Speaker 2: what happens, like with with Joe Burrow, You're saying he 519 00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:09,200 Speaker 2: was banged up and then you have a terrible defense 520 00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:09,719 Speaker 2: last year. 521 00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:14,200 Speaker 1: I just think, well, no, That's what I'm saying is, yes, 522 00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:17,399 Speaker 1: those are true factors, but I'm also not going to. 523 00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:21,160 Speaker 3: Use it as a metric, like when when ranking them. 524 00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:24,680 Speaker 1: Well, no, I I what I'm not gonna do is 525 00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:31,160 Speaker 1: say after the regular season, Lamar is higher than Burrow, 526 00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:37,080 Speaker 1: Burrow misses the playoffs, Lamar plays poorly in the playoffs, 527 00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:42,200 Speaker 1: and then Lamar gets dropped beneath Burrow, like the because 528 00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:49,400 Speaker 1: you can't, yep, showing up to a test and failing 529 00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:54,080 Speaker 1: it is still better than skipping the test, like not 530 00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:57,319 Speaker 1: showing up. And so like you got you got more, 531 00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:00,600 Speaker 1: you got some questions right, and so oh like the 532 00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:03,920 Speaker 1: and so that's the So I listen, I don't think 533 00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:07,360 Speaker 1: having Burrow ahead of Lamar is outrageous, but it's not 534 00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:13,360 Speaker 1: what I would have And and then it starts getting 535 00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:17,040 Speaker 1: you know, then we start figuring out where exactly do 536 00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:20,520 Speaker 1: you have hurts, And the hurts ranking is really interesting. 537 00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:23,120 Speaker 1: And I tried to make this point on TV yesterday 538 00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:26,239 Speaker 1: and I did it kind of ham handedly, which is 539 00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:30,440 Speaker 1: Eagles fans right now, and I get it they're feeling themselves. 540 00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:34,400 Speaker 1: You won the chance Super Bowl, you should absolutely be thrilled, 541 00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:38,920 Speaker 1: But they kind of want the best of both worlds. 542 00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:50,040 Speaker 1: They want everyone to acknowledge how utterly stacked their roster is, 543 00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:54,960 Speaker 1: how great, Howie Roseman's done, how good they are, you know, 544 00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:58,120 Speaker 1: in every way, shape and form. They want all of that, 545 00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:01,640 Speaker 1: but they also don't don't want any of us to 546 00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:07,360 Speaker 1: incorporate any of that into our evaluation of Jalen Hurts. 547 00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:11,040 Speaker 1: Like they want everyone to bend the knee that they 548 00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:14,360 Speaker 1: have the best overall roster in football by a mile, 549 00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:20,080 Speaker 1: but also pretend like we think Jalen Hurts is carrying 550 00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:24,000 Speaker 1: just a regular team. And so now I think Hurts 551 00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:27,680 Speaker 1: has been clearly excellent in huge spots, and I think 552 00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:31,400 Speaker 1: Hurts I think having Hurts ten like Danny did is 553 00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:34,600 Speaker 1: too you know, a bridge too far. But I also 554 00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:41,280 Speaker 1: think that it is you view it differently than if 555 00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:44,799 Speaker 1: Josh Allen had won the Super Bowl last year with 556 00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:48,239 Speaker 1: the team he had, Jalen winning it last year with 557 00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:49,840 Speaker 1: the team he had. I just think there is some 558 00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:53,120 Speaker 1: nuance there. Eagles fans, on the other hand, want us 559 00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:55,239 Speaker 1: all to be like, you have the greatest roster in 560 00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:58,960 Speaker 1: the league. It's it's sakwan'sa Hall of Famer. How he 561 00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:01,399 Speaker 1: drafts better than every everyone, the best wide receiver, duo 562 00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:05,040 Speaker 1: of the best offensive line. And I'll also Jalen Hurts 563 00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:10,480 Speaker 1: got no help, Like, which is the you're not gonna 564 00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:11,000 Speaker 1: get that. 565 00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:15,560 Speaker 2: Yesterday was the five year anniversary of the first game 566 00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:18,279 Speaker 2: in the Bubble, and it's still a huge debate on 567 00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:22,640 Speaker 2: its legitimess. Darryl morri said in quote, everyone I speak 568 00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:25,360 Speaker 2: to around the league privately agrees that it doesn't truly 569 00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:29,880 Speaker 2: hold up as a genuine championship. Yes, looking back, how 570 00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:32,239 Speaker 2: would you measure the Bubble championship? 571 00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:36,160 Speaker 1: Okay, so first let me help out my pal Daryl, 572 00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:40,320 Speaker 1: because I was shocked when I read this quote, because 573 00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:47,520 Speaker 1: Darryl has publicly many times talked about how legit he 574 00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:51,759 Speaker 1: finds that championship to be and how hard it was. 575 00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:55,920 Speaker 1: And so when I saw it's one thing for you know, 576 00:38:57,560 --> 00:39:01,000 Speaker 1: Legion Hoops or whatever one of these kind of aggregators 577 00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:07,040 Speaker 1: to post a quote to another thing for ESPN their 578 00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:12,160 Speaker 1: social team to post, you know, end quotes. Everyone I 579 00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:14,720 Speaker 1: speak to around the league privately agrees that it doesn't 580 00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:18,040 Speaker 1: truly hold up as a genuine championship, with the source 581 00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:22,400 Speaker 1: being the Athletic. So I'm going to read you. So 582 00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:27,840 Speaker 1: I reached out to Daryl, and not surprisingly, he explained 583 00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:29,760 Speaker 1: to me what I thought was going to be the case, 584 00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:36,000 Speaker 1: which is, while he wasn't misquoted, it is being misinterpreted. 585 00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:40,839 Speaker 1: So I'll read you the full quote and clarify, and 586 00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:43,000 Speaker 1: but then I'll also give you my thoughts on what 587 00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:46,359 Speaker 1: everybody seems to think. All Right, Daryl says, quote, had 588 00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:49,720 Speaker 1: the Rockets won the title, I absolutely would have celebrated 589 00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:54,360 Speaker 1: it as legitimate, knowing the immense effort and resilience required. 590 00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:59,360 Speaker 1: Yet everyone I speak to around the league privately agrees 591 00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:02,840 Speaker 1: that it doesn't truly hold up as a genuine championship. 592 00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:07,920 Speaker 1: Pause for a moment. The privately agrees is what is 593 00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:12,400 Speaker 1: tripping people up. He is saying everyone he talks to 594 00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:18,560 Speaker 1: agrees amongst themselves, like he is the outlier that says 595 00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:24,040 Speaker 1: this was an amazing accomplishment, but everybody else says not 596 00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:28,920 Speaker 1: so much. Where people are saying, and I actually understand 597 00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:33,799 Speaker 1: why people are confused. They are reading it as everyone 598 00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:39,000 Speaker 1: privately agrees with me, he's saying, everyone privately agrees with 599 00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:43,120 Speaker 1: each other, and so just to and again, Darrel is 600 00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:46,759 Speaker 1: my pal. But I also you know, he deserves to 601 00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:50,160 Speaker 1: have his actual opinion out there correctly. He then went 602 00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:52,640 Speaker 1: on to say, perhaps lasting legacy the NBA bubble is 603 00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:55,640 Speaker 1: that the NBA should be proud of its leadership at 604 00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:58,279 Speaker 1: both the beginning and the end of pandemic, even though 605 00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:01,640 Speaker 1: the champion will forever be marked an asterisk. And he 606 00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:06,040 Speaker 1: again is saying there because that's the way seemingly everyone 607 00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:10,279 Speaker 1: else feels. And so here is I said to you 608 00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:14,680 Speaker 1: guys a couple months ago that the vast majority of 609 00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:18,839 Speaker 1: NBA myths fall into one of two categories. Not all, 610 00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:24,360 Speaker 1: but the vast majority. Category one is uplifting Michael Jordan, 611 00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:29,399 Speaker 1: and category two is tearing down Lebron James. And there 612 00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:35,840 Speaker 1: is no greater example of that than the revisionist history 613 00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:42,799 Speaker 1: on the god Doog bubble. So here is the accurate 614 00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:49,280 Speaker 1: timeline of the Los Angeles Lakers winning the twenty twenty 615 00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:59,720 Speaker 1: NBA Championship. Okay, in twenty eighteen, Lebron James was universally 616 00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:05,160 Speaker 1: old as by a wide margin, the best player in 617 00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:12,400 Speaker 1: the NBA, dragging a Cleveland Cavalier team to the NBA 618 00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:17,200 Speaker 1: Finals with a playoff run that had an all time 619 00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:24,440 Speaker 1: record eight forty point games, two true buzzer beaters, two 620 00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:29,680 Speaker 1: game seven victories, one of which on the road, and 621 00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:34,760 Speaker 1: what some consider the single greatest individual performance any players 622 00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:38,080 Speaker 1: ever had fifty one to eight and eight in Game 623 00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:45,399 Speaker 1: one of the twenty eighteen NBA Finals, where with no 624 00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:50,560 Speaker 1: other because Kevin Love was not was had gotten banged 625 00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:53,319 Speaker 1: up at the end of the Celtics series with no 626 00:42:53,360 --> 00:43:00,720 Speaker 1: one around him against Steph kd Clay Draymont two Lebron 627 00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:05,000 Speaker 1: was in twenty eighteen. In twenty nineteen, he goes to 628 00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:09,239 Speaker 1: the Los Angeles Lakers, who were in the midst of 629 00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:14,480 Speaker 1: the worst half decade stretch in the history of their franchise, 630 00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:18,960 Speaker 1: and is playing a game on Christmas Day when they 631 00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:21,719 Speaker 1: are a top four as drug that team to a 632 00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:24,840 Speaker 1: top four seed in the West, and suffers the first 633 00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:28,680 Speaker 1: major injury of his career. But at that moment, there 634 00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:32,680 Speaker 1: was still no argument and no debate over who the 635 00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:37,880 Speaker 1: best player in the world was. That offseason, they acquire 636 00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:45,080 Speaker 1: Anthony Davis and instantly become the best team in the league. 637 00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:52,000 Speaker 1: That Lakers team pre pandemic, pre bubble, pre everything with 638 00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:59,400 Speaker 1: ad started the year twenty four and three was running 639 00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:04,600 Speaker 1: rough shit got over everyone. Lebron James was the leading 640 00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:11,080 Speaker 1: NBA MVP candidate and they were the favorite to win 641 00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:21,560 Speaker 1: the championship pre pandemic. So what we had was the 642 00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:25,920 Speaker 1: Lakers had the best record in basketball, the Lakers had 643 00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:29,319 Speaker 1: the best player in basketball, the Lakers had made the 644 00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:34,960 Speaker 1: biggest trade an acquisition of any team that offseason with 645 00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:38,080 Speaker 1: respect to what the Clippers had done, and they were 646 00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:44,440 Speaker 1: the favorites to win the championship. The season then shuts 647 00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:51,600 Speaker 1: down post shutdown, or right before the shutdown, Jannis had, 648 00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:56,799 Speaker 1: you know, really gone on an unbelievable run, and the 649 00:44:56,920 --> 00:45:04,520 Speaker 1: NBA MVP debate came down to two guys, Giannis or Lebron, 650 00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:09,440 Speaker 1: with hardened kind of lurking because Harden had made the 651 00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:14,440 Speaker 1: Key and Westbrook thing work and that team seemed dangerous. 652 00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:18,719 Speaker 1: And then we get to the bubble and there is 653 00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:25,200 Speaker 1: no home court, which penalized two teams more than any 654 00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:30,239 Speaker 1: which were the two teams that had earned home court advantage, 655 00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:36,640 Speaker 1: Lebron's team and Giannie's team. Lebron's team which won the 656 00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:41,960 Speaker 1: West by four games and Janice's team, which won the 657 00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:50,840 Speaker 1: East by four games, and then the bubble happens, and 658 00:45:50,920 --> 00:46:00,160 Speaker 1: the playoff bracket is set, and every single potential pitfall 659 00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:08,080 Speaker 1: matchup that people are convinced is a bad matchup or 660 00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:14,600 Speaker 1: the toughest possible path hits the Lakers. We can now 661 00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:20,959 Speaker 1: pretend it did not happen. But Dame and Portland were 662 00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:25,560 Speaker 1: the scary team that nobody wanted to face in round one, 663 00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:29,839 Speaker 1: and the Lakers drew them with no home court advantage, 664 00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:34,040 Speaker 1: and after losing Game one, dispatched of them in five. 665 00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:41,839 Speaker 1: Then the Rockets with the one year Harden and Westbrook 666 00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:45,719 Speaker 1: worked that Rockets team with James Harden being third and 667 00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:51,360 Speaker 1: MVP voting that year and Russ the last actually really 668 00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:54,960 Speaker 1: good season of his career on a at least that 669 00:46:55,200 --> 00:47:00,520 Speaker 1: involved winning It's Round two, the Lakers get the rights 670 00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:04,359 Speaker 1: and they lose Game one and then dispatch of them 671 00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:10,560 Speaker 1: in five. And then you get the Denver Nuggets with 672 00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:16,160 Speaker 1: a healthy Jamal Murray who would not lose another playoff 673 00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:23,759 Speaker 1: series with a healthy Jamal Murray four years, and Anthony 674 00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:28,560 Speaker 1: Davis plays the best basketball of his life. Lebron James 675 00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:34,360 Speaker 1: in a closeout game goes thirty eight, sixteen, and ten, 676 00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:40,560 Speaker 1: and they dispatch of the Nuggets in five. And then 677 00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:44,640 Speaker 1: in the NBA Finals, Oh, they get a fluke of 678 00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:49,600 Speaker 1: a team that definitely wouldn't have made the finals if 679 00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:54,120 Speaker 1: not for the Bubble, the Miami Heat, who responded by 680 00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:58,280 Speaker 1: the way to that finals trip by two years later 681 00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:02,399 Speaker 1: making game seven of the conference finals, and the year 682 00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:08,440 Speaker 1: after that making the NBA Finals again. And in those finals, 683 00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:17,920 Speaker 1: Lebron James plays close to perfect basketball, reminding people once 684 00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:21,560 Speaker 1: again that he's still the best player in the world 685 00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:28,399 Speaker 1: when he averaged thirty twelve and nine on fifty nine 686 00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:34,320 Speaker 1: to forty two splits to finish off a playoff run 687 00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:40,240 Speaker 1: where again the best player in the world, Lebron James 688 00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:46,680 Speaker 1: averaged for the postseason twenty eight eleven and nine on 689 00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:54,440 Speaker 1: fifty six percent from the field. That team won the championship. 690 00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:59,799 Speaker 1: And then how did they defend their title when the 691 00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:07,239 Speaker 1: bubble was done? The next season? They started twenty one 692 00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:10,240 Speaker 1: and six, well they I mean they started actually eleven 693 00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:16,600 Speaker 1: and three, and they had the best record in basketball 694 00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:20,120 Speaker 1: or in the Western Conference was maybe the Western Conference 695 00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:29,360 Speaker 1: or basketball The day Solomon Hill stumbled into Lebron's ankle 696 00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:35,000 Speaker 1: and he got hurt. So before the pandemic, they were 697 00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:37,360 Speaker 1: the best team in the league with the best player 698 00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:41,120 Speaker 1: in the league. During the pandemic, they had home their 699 00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:44,920 Speaker 1: home court advantage they had earned taken from them, and 700 00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:49,160 Speaker 1: got what people were calling at the time a nightmare 701 00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:53,600 Speaker 1: path Dame in round one, Harden and Russ in round two, 702 00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:59,080 Speaker 1: Joker and Jamal Murray in round three, and dust them 703 00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:04,399 Speaker 1: all in five in the finals. People think, oh, they 704 00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:08,920 Speaker 1: got lucky. They don't have to face yeh honest, they 705 00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:11,960 Speaker 1: don't have to face I think Toronto was actually the 706 00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:14,400 Speaker 1: two seed that year. That would have been no problem, 707 00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:18,080 Speaker 1: and they got this fluke of a team in Miami, 708 00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:20,080 Speaker 1: except for the fact that Miami a couple of years 709 00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:23,960 Speaker 1: later beat Milwaukee again and came within a jump shot 710 00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:26,239 Speaker 1: of going back to the finals. And then the next 711 00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:31,760 Speaker 1: year did go back to the finals, and the best 712 00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:37,239 Speaker 1: player in the world played peak basketball. And then the 713 00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:42,160 Speaker 1: next season they start twenty one and six. The idea 714 00:50:43,640 --> 00:50:48,200 Speaker 1: that the wrong champion was crowned, the idea that that 715 00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:57,200 Speaker 1: was an easy or fraudulent or lesser path win. The 716 00:50:57,239 --> 00:51:04,120 Speaker 1: only basketball ringible basketball thing that was altered was no 717 00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:10,800 Speaker 1: one had home court, and so the only tangible damage 718 00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:13,880 Speaker 1: that was done to any of the teams were the 719 00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:18,200 Speaker 1: teams that would have had home court throughout, and that 720 00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:27,600 Speaker 1: was the Los Angeles Lakers. And every single person watching 721 00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:32,560 Speaker 1: knows that if the Milwaukee Bucks, who were the one 722 00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:36,520 Speaker 1: seed and had the League MVP, it's like the Lakers, 723 00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:39,360 Speaker 1: who were the one seed and had the second or 724 00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:42,160 Speaker 1: the runner up for League MVP. If the Bucks had 725 00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:45,960 Speaker 1: won that title, there's not a person in the world 726 00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:51,799 Speaker 1: that would be like fake title if the I don't 727 00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:54,040 Speaker 1: even know if the Warriors made the playoffs that year. 728 00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:58,640 Speaker 1: I don't think they did. Certainly, though, if the Clippers 729 00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:07,360 Speaker 1: with Kawhi and Paul George instead of absolutely mortifyingly folding 730 00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:11,479 Speaker 1: against Denver had won the title, no one be calling 731 00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:16,560 Speaker 1: it a fake title, because ultimately that discussion is not 732 00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:22,400 Speaker 1: about how real or fake a title is. That discussion 733 00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:29,000 Speaker 1: is about dis either dislike or jealousy of Lebron James. 734 00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:37,080 Speaker 1: And now our chat says seventy nine percent say yes, 735 00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:41,040 Speaker 1: the Bubble title is legit. Our chat probably skews a 736 00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:48,120 Speaker 1: little Lebron and Laker fan heavy, but you cannot say 737 00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:52,560 Speaker 1: that the team with the best record and the best 738 00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:59,080 Speaker 1: player in the world with a very difficult path. Who again, 739 00:52:59,840 --> 00:53:03,160 Speaker 1: the team they beat in the conference finals validated their 740 00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:06,880 Speaker 1: appearance there by winning a championship a couple of years later, 741 00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:10,960 Speaker 1: the team they beat in the NBA finals validated their 742 00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:15,160 Speaker 1: appearance there by making the finals a couple of years later. 743 00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:20,960 Speaker 1: You cannot argue. And then they validated it themselves by 744 00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:23,759 Speaker 1: being an awesome team the next year before Bron got hurt. 745 00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:29,799 Speaker 1: It's just such horseship and deep down everybody knows it. 746 00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:34,960 Speaker 2: What's up to was like horse crap. It's funny, But yeah, 747 00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:36,560 Speaker 2: I saw it in the rundown last night. You went 748 00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:40,480 Speaker 2: on the RAMT. But I instantly thought, like, how many 749 00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:43,160 Speaker 2: of those people that say that it wasn't legitimate just 750 00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:44,040 Speaker 2: don't like Lebron? 751 00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:45,440 Speaker 3: And it's funny that. 752 00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:52,960 Speaker 1: I mean, that's all it is. Everybody knows. Everybody knows 753 00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:58,839 Speaker 1: that if the Clippers, who weres everyone's team of the 754 00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:03,720 Speaker 1: Flavor of the month year and Kawhi had won the title, 755 00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:08,480 Speaker 1: no one would be saying it doesn't count. And everybody 756 00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:14,640 Speaker 1: knows if uh Yannis had won the title, because those 757 00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:18,320 Speaker 1: were the next two favorites. It was Lakers Bucks Clippers 758 00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:21,480 Speaker 1: were the favorites. Kind of all year had won the title, 759 00:54:21,840 --> 00:54:23,839 Speaker 1: no one would be saying it didn't count. It's just 760 00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:26,480 Speaker 1: so stupid, just so incredibly. 761 00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:31,480 Speaker 2: There is the calm court advantage, but the obviously that's 762 00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:32,480 Speaker 2: both ways. 763 00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:36,479 Speaker 1: But it goes both ways, but it hurts. The team 764 00:54:36,520 --> 00:54:40,480 Speaker 1: that's damaged by it is the top seed. Yeah, like 765 00:54:40,560 --> 00:54:44,680 Speaker 1: that's the and so it just such utter silliness.