WEBVTT - S1: E12 – BFFs: The Disappearance of Sarah Stern, Part 1 

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<v Speaker 1>When a nineteen year old's car was found abandoned on

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<v Speaker 1>a bridge at the Jersey Shore, speculation ran wild keys.

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<v Speaker 2>We're in the ignition, no sign of foul play, nothing.

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<v Speaker 3>Sarah was nowhere to be found.

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<v Speaker 1>But was Sarah Stern trying not to be found?

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<v Speaker 4>Sarah talked about possibly starting a new life in Toronto

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<v Speaker 4>and moving away.

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<v Speaker 5>Her mother had left her a lot of cash.

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<v Speaker 1>It all added up to one giant mystery.

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<v Speaker 4>You don't know what today.

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<v Speaker 1>To be honest, today we're at the Jersey Shore in

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<v Speaker 1>the community of Neptune City for BFFs the disappearance of

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<v Speaker 1>Sarah Stern. I'm Sloan Glass and this is American homicide.

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<v Speaker 1>As a note, this podcast also contains subject matter which

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<v Speaker 1>may not be suitable for all audiences. Discretion is advised.

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<v Speaker 1>The Jersey Shore, What did it give us? Snookie, Polly

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<v Speaker 1>d and Jwow. But what you say see on TV

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<v Speaker 1>and what really happens in real life are two completely

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<v Speaker 1>different things.

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<v Speaker 5>The Jersey Shore is not quite what you would expect

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<v Speaker 5>to see.

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<v Speaker 1>Journalist Tom Davis grew up on the Jersey Shore and

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<v Speaker 1>now covers the area for Patch dot Com.

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<v Speaker 5>It's actually a very conservative, traditional community, that's mixed in

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<v Speaker 5>with a tourist atmosphere.

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<v Speaker 1>Like clockwork, every summer, tourists and beachgoers take over the area.

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<v Speaker 5>During the summertime, I would say the population probably for

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<v Speaker 5>druples at least, especially on the weekends. It almost develops

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<v Speaker 5>a little bit more of a Miami Field to it.

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<v Speaker 1>The party atmosphere every summer takes over the mini bars, restaurants,

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<v Speaker 1>and of course the beaches.

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<v Speaker 5>The beaches are the best place to beat.

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<v Speaker 1>The shore features forty four beaches in total, and if

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<v Speaker 1>you're like Tom and live there year round, you look

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<v Speaker 1>forward to the off season.

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<v Speaker 5>For a lot of people, they really kind of hate

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<v Speaker 5>the crowd, so they actually like the fall and the

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<v Speaker 5>winter bigg This is obviously a lot emptier, it's a

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<v Speaker 5>lot less crowded. I always called it the void between

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<v Speaker 5>Labor Day and Moral Day because literally nothing happens here.

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<v Speaker 1>But in the early morning hours of December third, twenty sixteen,

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<v Speaker 1>something did happen. A ridehair driver noticed an abandoned Oldsmobile

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<v Speaker 1>sedan atop a bridge heading out of town and called

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<v Speaker 1>nine one one.

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<v Speaker 5>Mine one one, where is the emergency?

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<v Speaker 1>I kut on the Belmore Bridge through the car that

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<v Speaker 1>debanded gets off the side in the road.

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<v Speaker 4>Was there anybody inside the vehicle?

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<v Speaker 2>I look down.

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<v Speaker 1>That tall bridge spans the Shark River, which despite its name,

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<v Speaker 1>isn't known for having sharks.

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<v Speaker 5>The water underneath is a Shark River, which is a

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<v Speaker 5>very shallow river. The might do some fishing there. There's

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<v Speaker 5>really no swimming or anything like that.

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<v Speaker 1>When police got to the car, they found no one inside,

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<v Speaker 1>so they contacted its owner, Michael Stern.

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<v Speaker 3>About three o'clock in the morning.

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<v Speaker 6>Was kind of a squeaky voice saying they were from

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<v Speaker 6>the Mamouth County Sheriff's Department and they were looking for

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<v Speaker 6>the owner of an oldsmobile.

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<v Speaker 1>Michael lived in Neptune City, New Jersey year round with

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<v Speaker 1>his daughter Sarah, but at the time he was out

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<v Speaker 1>of town. He was vacationing in Orlando.

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<v Speaker 3>And I said, yeah, you know, Sarah drives that car.

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<v Speaker 1>Sarah was his nineteen year old daughter. She was in

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<v Speaker 1>college studying media production.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, Sarah was into the arts.

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<v Speaker 6>She was taking television production, art classes, pottery photography.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, her dad was in Orlando, Sarah was back home.

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<v Speaker 3>Sarah was basically by herself, and she didn't like to

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<v Speaker 3>be by herself.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, but sometimes, like everyone, Sarah just needed her space.

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<v Speaker 6>When she was fifteen, her mom passed away cancer and

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<v Speaker 6>it was a tough time for her.

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<v Speaker 1>It was very tough. Sarah's mom had a long bout

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<v Speaker 1>with breast cancer.

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<v Speaker 3>And Sarah, you know, she was a champ.

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<v Speaker 6>She loved her mom and she did everything she could

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<v Speaker 6>to keep for comfort when she was going through chemo.

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<v Speaker 1>And sadly, her mom ultimately lost that fight. When Sarah

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<v Speaker 1>was a freshman in high school.

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<v Speaker 3>She struggled at the time, you know, losing her mom.

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<v Speaker 1>Sarah took that pain and channeled it into her artwork.

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<v Speaker 6>So she had to kind of find herself and that's

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<v Speaker 6>when she threw herself into art, drawing, photography, and the media,

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<v Speaker 6>and her talent just blossomed. Within a couple of years,

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<v Speaker 6>she was doing things that I thought were incredible.

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<v Speaker 1>According to Michael, as a widower and father of a

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<v Speaker 1>teenage daughter, he thought the only thing to do was

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<v Speaker 1>to pull Sarah close and cope together.

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<v Speaker 6>Our family basically was Sarah and myself and always a dog.

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<v Speaker 6>She loved her dog Buddy, and she dressed Buddy up

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<v Speaker 6>in different outfits like put jackets on them in sweatshirts, and.

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<v Speaker 3>The buddy dressed up for Halloween. That was her best friend.

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<v Speaker 1>With Sarah and Buddy back home, Michael spent the early

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<v Speaker 1>morning hours of December third, twenty sixteen, trying to figure

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<v Speaker 1>out why Sarah's carr was left on a bridge some

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<v Speaker 1>two miles from their home.

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<v Speaker 6>I tried the house phone and her cell phone, and

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<v Speaker 6>I wasn't getting anything through.

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<v Speaker 1>Then he did what every father of a nineteen year

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<v Speaker 1>old would do. He sent her a text message.

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<v Speaker 6>The messages were coming up green as opposed to blue

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<v Speaker 6>on an iPhone, so I thought, maybe your phone was off,

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<v Speaker 6>or you know, the battery life had gone down.

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<v Speaker 1>By then, the police had gone to Sarah's home and

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<v Speaker 1>already did a search.

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<v Speaker 3>No one was there except for the dog.

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<v Speaker 1>The police found Buddy locked in his cage, which was

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<v Speaker 1>something Sarah's dad said she would only do when strangers

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<v Speaker 1>were at the house.

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<v Speaker 6>It was kind of odd that he would have been

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<v Speaker 6>in there, but Sarah was nowhere to be found. At

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<v Speaker 6>that point, we just didn't know what was going on,

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<v Speaker 6>so we just packed up and threw everything in the

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<v Speaker 6>car and started driving north.

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<v Speaker 1>The sixteen hour ride from Orlando to Neptune City gave

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<v Speaker 1>Michael plenty of time to think about what could have happened.

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<v Speaker 6>There was a million scenarios going through my head. Did

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<v Speaker 6>the car stall with something wrong with it, you know?

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<v Speaker 6>Did Sarah have somebody with her that might have abducted her.

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<v Speaker 1>There was also the terrifying thought that Sarah, who was

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<v Speaker 1>struggling with the loss of her mother, possibly took her

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<v Speaker 1>own life.

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<v Speaker 3>We had no answers, no answers at all.

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<v Speaker 1>Early that morning, the police sent a team of divers

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<v Speaker 1>into the frigid waters of the Shark River to look

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<v Speaker 1>for any signs of Sarah.

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<v Speaker 3>The tides go in and out very very quick.

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<v Speaker 6>It's cold, it's rocky in some areas, and it's marshy

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<v Speaker 6>and other areas.

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<v Speaker 1>By the time the sun came up that Saturday morning,

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<v Speaker 1>there was still no sign of Sarah and no evidence

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<v Speaker 1>of what could have happened.

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<v Speaker 4>There were a couple of theories that law enforcement believed.

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<v Speaker 1>Early on, Alex Napoliello covered the story for NJ dot

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<v Speaker 1>com and the Star Ledger newspaper.

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<v Speaker 4>It's possible her car had broken down and she flagged

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<v Speaker 4>the wrong person for help, and someone did something terrible

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<v Speaker 4>to her, possibly threw her body off the bridge. And

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<v Speaker 4>I remember early reports talking to sources off the record,

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<v Speaker 4>that there was belief that she had jumped off the bridge.

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<v Speaker 4>So then law enforcement wants to start putting the pieces together.

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<v Speaker 4>What was her mental state leading up to this?

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<v Speaker 3>You know, was she sad?

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<v Speaker 4>Was she depressed?

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<v Speaker 3>Well?

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<v Speaker 1>According to witnesses who last saw Sarah, she was not

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<v Speaker 1>in a good place mentally.

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<v Speaker 4>Police talked to her neighbor across the street, Robin Draper,

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<v Speaker 4>and what Robin had told them was that Sarah had

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<v Speaker 4>seemed a little off that day and not necessarily herself.

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<v Speaker 4>Sarah was over at their home earlier in the day

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<v Speaker 4>and she had dropped off some bins of her belongings.

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<v Speaker 1>But Sarah didn't just drop all of some of her stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>She also dropped some hints about where she might be going.

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<v Speaker 4>Sarah talked about possibly starting a new life in Toronto

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<v Speaker 4>and moving away. If she's getting rid of these belongings

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<v Speaker 4>while her father is vacationing, maybe she wanted to leave

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<v Speaker 4>town without necessarily notifying her family that she was leaving.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the last people to see Sarah Stern before

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<v Speaker 1>her disappearance was one of her best friends, Liam Mcatasne.

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<v Speaker 4>Liam Mcatazsne was one of Sarah's closest friends growing up.

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<v Speaker 4>They lived about a block away from each other. They

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<v Speaker 4>were childhood friends and they did what normal kids do,

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<v Speaker 4>play video games, talk on the phone, text with each other.

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<v Speaker 1>The two had one of those rare lifelong friendships. They

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<v Speaker 1>met at Sunday School when they were just six years old.

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<v Speaker 4>They were close and they remained close up until the

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<v Speaker 4>day she disappeared.

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<v Speaker 1>Liam was with Sarah that afternoon as she moved those

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<v Speaker 1>beens filled with her personal belongings into a neighbor's house.

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<v Speaker 1>When detectives questioned him, he painted a bleak picture of

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<v Speaker 1>Sarah's state of mind.

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<v Speaker 7>In the past, she has had a tendency to have

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<v Speaker 7>self destructive, suicidal behavior.

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<v Speaker 4>He was telling law enforcement she wanted to move away.

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<v Speaker 4>She wasn't happy, she was depressed.

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<v Speaker 8>Over the past few months, she's been telling.

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<v Speaker 7>Me how bad her relationship with her father is and

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<v Speaker 7>how she just needs to get out of here.

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<v Speaker 4>She had a rocky relationship with her father. There were

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<v Speaker 4>some periods where you know, they fought and had disagreements.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's say that one of Sarah's best friends was right,

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<v Speaker 1>and she did leave to get away from her dad, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>how could she afford it.

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<v Speaker 4>On the day before Sarah's carr was found abandoned on

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<v Speaker 4>the bridge, police learned that she I had gone to

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<v Speaker 4>a bank during the day to withdraw money from a

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<v Speaker 4>safety deposit box that she had.

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<v Speaker 1>Liam said he went with her to the bank, but

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<v Speaker 1>stayed in the car while Sarah went inside.

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<v Speaker 4>She took out seven thousand dollars. What would a nineteen

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<v Speaker 4>year old be doing with this money?

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<v Speaker 1>What nineteen year old has thousands of dollars soft away

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<v Speaker 1>in a safe deposit box.

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<v Speaker 4>You don't know what to think, to be honest.

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<v Speaker 1>Sarah's father also didn't know what to think of that cash.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't know about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, here's what he learned. Sarah found those thousands of

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<v Speaker 1>dollars in a shoe box inside their home, and this

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<v Speaker 1>money was filthy and old from well before the US

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<v Speaker 1>Treasury redesigned the twenty and fifty dollars bills.

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<v Speaker 6>Her mother I'd squirreled away money, I guess for years.

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<v Speaker 6>But she mentioned it to somebody and he got back

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<v Speaker 6>to Sarah and.

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<v Speaker 3>She found it.

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<v Speaker 1>So Sarah Stern had some problems with her dad, and

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<v Speaker 1>she had a pile of cash. So it makes perfect

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<v Speaker 1>sense that she left town, but her dad wasn't buying it.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, she just wasn't leaving her car on a

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<v Speaker 6>bridge and leaving her suitcase and her passport. Her passport

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<v Speaker 6>was up in her drawer where she kept it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, without a passport, Sarah would have no way to

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<v Speaker 1>get into Canada.

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<v Speaker 3>We just we didn't know. Then.

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<v Speaker 6>It just left the big open wound.

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<v Speaker 1>In the early hours of December third, twenty sixteen, nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>year old Sarah Stearn's car turned up on a bridge

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<v Speaker 1>near her home in Neptune City, New Jersey.

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<v Speaker 2>There's really not a lot of room over there on

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<v Speaker 2>the shoulder, so it's very, very odd for people to

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<v Speaker 2>be stopping.

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<v Speaker 3>On the bridge.

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<v Speaker 1>Edward Kirshenbaum was the director of Public Safety for the

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<v Speaker 1>Neptune City Police Department.

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<v Speaker 2>He's bring the ignition with no sign of a driver

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<v Speaker 2>or a pass sure, no sign of foul play. Nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>And here's a bit of bad luck. Surveillance cameras near

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<v Speaker 1>the bridge were not working that night, but a home

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<v Speaker 1>security camera across from the Stearns house was working. Unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 1>for detectives, they couldn't make out anything other than the

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<v Speaker 1>time Sarah's car came and left the house.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't know what's going on, so you have to

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<v Speaker 2>pull in every resource that you can to try to

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<v Speaker 2>get to the inline of what happened.

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<v Speaker 1>Hundreds of Sarah's friends and neighbors joined Sarah's best friend,

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<v Speaker 1>Leah Mcatasne in the search for any sign of Sarah.

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<v Speaker 2>The beaches in the lakes and the inlets were all

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<v Speaker 2>searched by volunteers, so there was an all out effort

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<v Speaker 2>by the community to see if they could locate anything

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<v Speaker 2>that would give any indication of what happened to.

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<v Speaker 1>Sarah stick but detectives were concerned about Sarah's bizarre behavior.

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<v Speaker 1>The afternoon before she.

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<v Speaker 2>Disappeared wasations with friend of Sarah's Liam mcintazie, where she

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<v Speaker 2>may have had some type of suicidal tendency that she

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<v Speaker 2>was upset with issues, maybe because of her mom's death.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, Liam was with her when she moved some

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<v Speaker 1>of her stuff into a neighbor's house. The afternoon before

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<v Speaker 1>she went missing.

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<v Speaker 2>Sarah had dropped off bins of her personal belongings to

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<v Speaker 2>be kept in the friend's basement. Sarah also gave a

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<v Speaker 2>bin of footballs and basketballs or some type of equipment

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<v Speaker 2>to kids in the neighborhood, so that was kind of odd.

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<v Speaker 1>Liam told detectives that afternoon, the two went to the bank,

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<v Speaker 1>got tacos for lunch, and returned to Sarah's house. They

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<v Speaker 1>ate and then played video games until around four forty

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<v Speaker 1>five PM. That's when Liam left for his job at

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<v Speaker 1>a local steakhouse.

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<v Speaker 2>Liam was the last person that Sarah had talked.

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<v Speaker 1>To, and most concerning was what Liam told detectives about

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<v Speaker 1>Sarah's state of mind.

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<v Speaker 2>Sarah was unhappy with her home life, that her father

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<v Speaker 2>was overbearing, that the relationship between Michael Stern and Sarah

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<v Speaker 2>Sterne was not a good relationship.

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<v Speaker 1>So naturally, detectives questioned her father, Michael, about his relationship

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<v Speaker 1>with Sarah, and they were surprised by his response.

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<v Speaker 2>Michael Sterne was an open book. He was forthcoming with

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<v Speaker 2>everything that we discussed. Any type of telephone communication, whether

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<v Speaker 2>it be text messages, their voicemails.

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<v Speaker 1>And these messages didn't show any sort of conflict between them.

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<v Speaker 1>Just before Sarah disappeared, she texted her dad, Hey Dad,

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<v Speaker 1>good afternoon. What day are you coming back from Florida?

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<v Speaker 1>Her text also contained emojis, a smiley face with sunglasses,

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<v Speaker 1>a palm tree, and a little red car. Michael's response

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<v Speaker 1>included a picture of a rainbow that had just appeared

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<v Speaker 1>right around that time. He later sent a picture of

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<v Speaker 1>Disney's Magic Kingdom, where he was vacationing. Sarah wrote back, Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>the castle looked so pretty with the lights. She added

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<v Speaker 1>a shooting star emoji. It was the last message he

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<v Speaker 1>received from Sarah. So again, what's going on here?

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<v Speaker 2>It's a parent sports nightmare. I couldn't imagine it myself,

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<v Speaker 2>and my heart was breaking for him.

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<v Speaker 1>At this point, all detectives knew for sure was that

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<v Speaker 1>Sarah took out a large sum of money from the

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<v Speaker 1>bank and then vanished.

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<v Speaker 2>There was no utilization of any bank cars or anything

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<v Speaker 2>that would give some kind of information that she had

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<v Speaker 2>left the area, because without funding, how far can you

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<v Speaker 2>go you have no car, So it was a unique case.

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<v Speaker 2>There was nothing adding up.

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<v Speaker 1>Even the surveillance footage from the bank showed Sarah smiling

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<v Speaker 1>and waving to the manager as she left, it didn't

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<v Speaker 1>exactly point to someone who was considering taking her own

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<v Speaker 1>life or fleeing the country.

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<v Speaker 2>There were no hardcore facts out there, so you had

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<v Speaker 2>to use the totality of circumstances to just old fashioned

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<v Speaker 2>police work, hoping that somebody says something, and just talking

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<v Speaker 2>to everybody to try to put the pieces together.

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<v Speaker 1>Journalist Alex Napoleello covered the story.

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<v Speaker 4>Very early on. The reports coming to us from police

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<v Speaker 4>was that Sarah was missing and that there wasn't anything

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<v Speaker 4>suspicious about her disappearance. And then, sort of seemingly out

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<v Speaker 4>of the blue, the Mammoth County Prosecutor's office puts out

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<v Speaker 4>information that they are willing to pay anyone who would

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<v Speaker 4>have information in her disappearance.

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<v Speaker 1>That reward, which totaled five thousand dollars, caught everyone off guard.

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<v Speaker 4>Now that struck us as a bit odd because usually

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<v Speaker 4>those rewards are put out when there's a crime that

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<v Speaker 4>has occurred.

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<v Speaker 1>Reporters saw it as a sign that police no longer

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<v Speaker 1>believe Sarah took off to Canada or her own life.

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<v Speaker 4>And it was the first indication to us that maybe

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<v Speaker 4>something the faarius had happened here.

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<v Speaker 1>And then seven weeks after Sarah's disappearance, detectives got a

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<v Speaker 1>mysterious lead from someone who went to high school with Sarah.

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<v Speaker 2>Police father got information of a gentleman by the Marathony Curry.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, let's talk about Anthony Curry. Like Sarah, he was

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen years old and liked the arts at the time.

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<v Speaker 1>He considered himself to be an aspiring horror movie maker

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<v Speaker 1>and sort of looked the part. He was tall, with long,

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<v Speaker 1>dark hair, wore dark clothing, and smoked cigarettes, but he

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't exactly a loner. In high school, he was named

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<v Speaker 1>most likely to become famous.

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<v Speaker 2>Mister Curry met with detectives of the case and told

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<v Speaker 2>them an incredible story.

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<v Speaker 1>Incredible is an understatement. Anthony Curry told detectives about a

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<v Speaker 1>bizarre conversation he had with a longtime friend about movies.

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<v Speaker 1>This friend floated a movie idea past Anthony that involved

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<v Speaker 1>robbing and killing someone.

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<v Speaker 2>A scenario of parking a vehicle on the bridge, making

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<v Speaker 2>hear that somebody committed suicide by jumping off the bridge

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<v Speaker 2>into the water.

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<v Speaker 1>This so called movie plot sounded all too familiar to detectives.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a detail by detail description of what had

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<v Speaker 2>happened to Sarah.

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<v Speaker 1>Star, making things even more bizarre. This conversation with Anthony

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<v Speaker 1>Curry happened on Thanksgiving twenty sixteen, just days before Sarah

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<v Speaker 1>Stern went missing.

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<v Speaker 2>Anthony came up with information that only somebody involved in

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<v Speaker 2>the crime would know.

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<v Speaker 1>And this person who shared this movie idea with Anthony, well,

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<v Speaker 1>he was also no stranger to Sarah.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a friend of Sarah's, Liam mcintazie.

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<v Speaker 1>I know a lot has happened, so let's take a

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<v Speaker 1>moment to reset. A week before Sarah disappeared, Anthony Curry

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<v Speaker 1>alleges that Sarah's good friend, her best friend, Liam shared

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<v Speaker 1>his idea for a movie about a young woman who

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<v Speaker 1>was robbed, murdered, and then thrown off a bridge while

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<v Speaker 1>her car was left on a bridge to appear like

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<v Speaker 1>she took her own life. Things are getting really weird here,

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<v Speaker 1>so just.

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<v Speaker 2>The whole concept is beyond comprehension.

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<v Speaker 1>And Anthony said he never thought about this conversation after

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<v Speaker 1>it happened, that is, until he read about Sarah's mysterious disappearance.

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<v Speaker 2>Mister Curry came forward too law enforcement because mister mcintassie

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<v Speaker 2>continued to reach out for mister Curry.

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<v Speaker 1>Leah mcintazzne told Anthony it was urgent they meet up,

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<v Speaker 1>which is what caused Anthony to go to the cops.

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<v Speaker 1>But again, Liam was one of Sarah's oldest and best

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<v Speaker 1>and most devoted friends. Could he actually be involved in

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<v Speaker 1>Sarah's disappearance? Was this just some sort of weird coincidence,

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<v Speaker 1>or had Sarah and Liamp cooked up some sort of plan.

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<v Speaker 2>This is just so off the choice that nobody knows

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<v Speaker 2>what happened.

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<v Speaker 1>So the police came up with a plan to learn

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<v Speaker 1>the truth, and it involves some serious work on the

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<v Speaker 1>part of Anthony Curry. If he could pull this off,

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<v Speaker 1>it would make him famous for reasons no one in

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<v Speaker 1>his high school could have ever imagined. A week before

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen year old Sarah Stern went missing in December twenty sixteen,

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<v Speaker 1>Leamcatazzne told his friend Anthony Curry an idea for a movie.

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<v Speaker 1>In this movie, a young woman is robbed and killed.

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<v Speaker 1>Her body is then thrown off a bridge, all to

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<v Speaker 1>make it look like she took her own life. Now

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<v Speaker 1>back to reality, nobody was found when already searched the river.

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<v Speaker 1>But since the rest of the movie plot sounded like

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<v Speaker 1>what could have happened to Sarah Stearn, Anthony Curry went.

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<v Speaker 2>To the cops, so they wired mister Curry up.

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<v Speaker 1>Edward Kirshenbaum worked for the Neptune City Police Department, and

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<v Speaker 1>a plan.

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<v Speaker 2>Was put in placed by the investigative team for a

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<v Speaker 2>meet between Liam mctazzie and Anthony Curry, with law enforcement

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<v Speaker 2>wiring mister Curry and monitoring with audio and video the

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<v Speaker 2>conversation that would take place.

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<v Speaker 1>On January thirty first, twenty seventeen, seven weeks after Sarah

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<v Speaker 1>Stearn's disappearance, Anthony Curry met Liam mcintasney in his car.

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<v Speaker 1>The police listened from a safe distance in hopes of

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<v Speaker 1>learning whether Liam's idea for a movie was actually his

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<v Speaker 1>plan to murder Sarah.

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<v Speaker 9>Don't he don't put you on to hide from the cops. Dude,

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<v Speaker 9>you can't blame me for doing this, right. I got

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<v Speaker 9>a few y real quick, right right.

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<v Speaker 1>Off the bat. Liam Mcatazsney amped up the drama. He

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<v Speaker 1>was nervous and asked to pat down Anthony Curry in

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<v Speaker 1>case he was wearing a wire.

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<v Speaker 8>No disrespect.

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<v Speaker 9>I'll show you no disrespect, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Liam's pat down of Anthony didn't reveal anything because the

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<v Speaker 1>police didn't wire him up. They wired up his car,

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<v Speaker 1>so Liam had no idea their conversation was being recorded.

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<v Speaker 9>I got the FBI on my ass. Dude, what are

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<v Speaker 9>they questioning? Oh yeah, a lot? Well what killing there?

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<v Speaker 1>The FBI was not involved in the investigation, So what

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<v Speaker 1>was Liam talking about? Was this another page from his script?

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<v Speaker 1>Was this all again to him? And then police heard this?

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<v Speaker 8>I did something really dumb.

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<v Speaker 9>Then I planned it out half a year and the

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<v Speaker 9>worst part is we threw off the bridge and the

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<v Speaker 9>body never showed up.

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<v Speaker 1>Well that was pretty shocking, and who is we? Then

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<v Speaker 1>Liam shared what happened the afternoon before Sarah disappeared.

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<v Speaker 9>I'm hanging out with her. We went to the bank.

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<v Speaker 9>She took some money out, not all for money.

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<v Speaker 1>Liam said. After Sarah took seven thousand dollars out of

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<v Speaker 1>her safe deposit box, the two went back to Sarah's

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<v Speaker 1>and that's when Liam put his plan into action.

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<v Speaker 9>We're counting out and then she goes to walk out

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<v Speaker 9>the front door.

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<v Speaker 8>I choked her out, like I just I picked her up.

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<v Speaker 9>And had her just like dangling off the ground, and

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<v Speaker 9>she just herself said my name, and then that was it.

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<v Speaker 9>And her dog laid there and watched as I killed her.

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<v Speaker 9>Didn't do anything.

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<v Speaker 1>That's really hard to hear and makes my stomach drop.

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<v Speaker 1>Such a sad ending to Sarah's life and the police

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<v Speaker 1>could not believe what they were hearing. Sarah Stearn's friend

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<v Speaker 1>and neighbor, Liam mcintosney, very nonchalantly described how he killed

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<v Speaker 1>Sarah with his own two hands.

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<v Speaker 8>She was just laying there, having a seizure or something.

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<v Speaker 9>I got a shirt and I just shoved it down

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<v Speaker 9>her throat so she wouldn't throw up her anything, and

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<v Speaker 9>held my finger over her nose.

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<v Speaker 8>And it took me like a half an hour.

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<v Speaker 1>It's really hard to listen to this because he is

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<v Speaker 1>so cold, But Liam went on. He said he ran

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<v Speaker 1>out of time. He had to be at work at

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<v Speaker 1>five pm, so he dragged Sarah's body to the bathroom

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<v Speaker 1>and left her there. And that's where Liam's accomplice comes

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<v Speaker 1>into the story. His roommate, Preston Taylor. According to Liam,

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<v Speaker 1>Preston was in on the plan. They had actually been

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<v Speaker 1>planning to rob and kill Sarah for six months.

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<v Speaker 9>You are the only person on the planet that not

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<v Speaker 9>besides Preston, and Preston doesn't know.

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<v Speaker 3>That you know.

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<v Speaker 1>So if what he is saying is true, then while

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<v Speaker 1>Liam was at work, Preston entered Sarah's house through her

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<v Speaker 1>back door and then moved her body to a bushy

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<v Speaker 1>area in the backyard.

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<v Speaker 9>I get off work, Donn Preston, and I go over

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<v Speaker 9>to her house. Then we take her body out of

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<v Speaker 9>the bushes and drag it over to her back fence,

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<v Speaker 9>and I crawl get into her car and I back up.

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<v Speaker 9>She had There's a security camera across the street, so

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<v Speaker 9>I had to back I had to act like her.

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<v Speaker 9>I watched her. Every time she backed out, she does

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<v Speaker 9>the same thing. So I backed out exactly like she

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<v Speaker 9>did and drove off.

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<v Speaker 1>Liam still hasn't said anything that establishes a clear motive.

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<v Speaker 1>His story is so brutal and so nonchalant at the

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<v Speaker 1>same time, it's hard to believe it's true. And then

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<v Speaker 1>there's another thing. Somehow Liam dodged the security cameras, which

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't easy considering where he put the body.

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<v Speaker 8>Put her in the passenger seat of her own car.

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<v Speaker 1>With a seatbelt around. Sarah's dead body in the passenger

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<v Speaker 1>seat of her own car, Liam said he drove to

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<v Speaker 1>the bridge over the Shark River.

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<v Speaker 9>I go up, open the door on hooker, pull her out,

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<v Speaker 9>start dragging her to throw her over, and then cars

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<v Speaker 9>start coming up.

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<v Speaker 8>I seeing like headlights coming.

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<v Speaker 9>I try to get her over and I can't my

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<v Speaker 9>leg up like so now I'm limping my legs up

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<v Speaker 9>and there's three cars coming up.

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<v Speaker 1>Liam said he freaked out and dragged Sarah's body back

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<v Speaker 1>to the car, pushing her into the passenger seat and

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<v Speaker 1>signaling to his roommate pressed in for help. From the

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<v Speaker 1>way he described it, Liam did all of this with

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<v Speaker 1>no regard for Sarah. It was it's like she was

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<v Speaker 1>no longer a person, but just an object, no longer

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<v Speaker 1>his best friend, just a thing.

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<v Speaker 9>The two of us throw the body over and then

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<v Speaker 9>we're out. This is the thing about there's so much

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<v Speaker 9>you can't account for. You don't know until it happens.

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<v Speaker 1>Liam then explained how he and Preston stole a safe

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<v Speaker 1>from Sarah along with that money Sarah took out from

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<v Speaker 1>her safe deposit box.

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<v Speaker 9>That's not even the worst part. The worst part of

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<v Speaker 9>it is I thought I was walking out fifty grand,

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<v Speaker 9>one hundred grand in my pocket. She only had ten

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<v Speaker 9>grand and this money I don't know if it was

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<v Speaker 9>birth or something.

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<v Speaker 8>It's old money, terrible quality.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the worst part. He's upset about the money. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>if you remember those twenty and fifty dollars bills looked

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<v Speaker 1>old and beaten up, which upset Liam.

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<v Speaker 8>I don't even know if I can put any of it.

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<v Speaker 1>In the ban out this sickening discussion with Liam, Anthony

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<v Speaker 1>Curry kept repeating, it's like a movie. It's like a movie, man,

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<v Speaker 1>and Liam agreed, to.

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<v Speaker 9>Your life, you might as well make it. What are

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<v Speaker 9>you gonna list on? Foreign ass life?

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<v Speaker 1>That's when Liam said he needed to go and exited

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<v Speaker 1>the car. But then seconds later Liam turned around and

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<v Speaker 1>ran back to Anthony's car. Liam knocked on Anthony's window

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<v Speaker 1>and looked worried.

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<v Speaker 8>There he there, got ahead, everything got They're there.

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<v Speaker 1>Liam found his keys in Anthony's car, grabbed them and left.

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<v Speaker 1>Anthony exhaled, lit up another cigarette, and drove back home,

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<v Speaker 1>wondering how on earth this horror movie plot Liam shared

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<v Speaker 1>with him on Thanksgiving may have turned into a real

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<v Speaker 1>life murder. As for the detective, they also tried to

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<v Speaker 1>process what they heard.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a detailed accounting of what he, along with

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<v Speaker 2>President Taylor did to Sarah start Ed.

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<v Speaker 1>Kirshenbaum of the Neptune City Police Department was shocked not

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<v Speaker 1>just at what Liam said, but how he said it.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a chilling account with no remorse, no emotion.

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<v Speaker 1>With Liam mctasne on tape detailing what he did to

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<v Speaker 1>Sarah Stearn. You would think there would have been enough

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<v Speaker 1>evidence to charge him with murder, but this story was

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<v Speaker 1>far from over.

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<v Speaker 3>They spotted somebody but looked like Sarah.

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<v Speaker 1>I got a good look right in her face, stared

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<v Speaker 1>right into her eyes.

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<v Speaker 8>Away and looking at you right now, and she turned

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<v Speaker 8>her head duck down an alleyway. I said, I don't

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<v Speaker 8>know what that is, but that girl did not.

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<v Speaker 3>Want to be seen. I just you know, I was

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<v Speaker 3>beside myself.

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<v Speaker 4>I had never seen anything like that. As a reporter

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<v Speaker 4>covering crime for many years.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Sloane Glass. Join me for part two of BFFs,

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<v Speaker 1>the Disappearance of Sarah Stern, as we learn what really

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<v Speaker 1>happened in the small beach town of Neptune City. That's

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<v Speaker 1>next time on American Homicide. You can contact the American

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