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Speaker 1: Thank you for You're coming back. Part two is underway

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Speaker 1: from where you grew.

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Speaker 2: Up, how you grew up high school, feel like you

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Speaker 2: always gotta fight. You get the Dallars and Mike, you

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Speaker 2: got everything. You got everything. And now I tell people

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Speaker 2: at the time, like, no matter how much you have,

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Speaker 2: you don't think about what you got, you know, you

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Speaker 2: just think about somebody trying to take advantage of you,

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Speaker 2: somebody trying to what we say, try you trying to

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Speaker 2: pump me. Oh you think because oh you bigger than me.

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Speaker 2: You Nah, it ain't. It don't work like that.

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Speaker 3: Because because you're not living in your now, you're still

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Speaker 3: dealing with your yesterday. Yes you see it. Yes, you're like,

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Speaker 3: and you asked me about finances. That's that's that's what

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Speaker 3: we do. In finances. We buy out of our pain.

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Speaker 3: We don't think about our purpose, our purposes we're gonna

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Speaker 3: do ahead of us. Our pain is what's behind us.

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Speaker 3: So now you get that five million dollar signing, Bonus said,

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Speaker 3: what you do, You're gonna spend two million on the house.

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Speaker 3: You go spend up a million on your mom's house.

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Speaker 3: You go spend some money on cars. Not a five

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Speaker 3: million is down to one million, and you ain't paid

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Speaker 3: no taxes and and and you say to yourself, that's

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Speaker 3: all right, thought I paid mine, I bought it, I

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Speaker 3: paid it all. And you know, because because you're dealing

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Speaker 3: with the pain of watching your mom lose her house

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Speaker 3: and watching your cousin them lose their house soon. Now,

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Speaker 3: you made a stupid financial decision by buying it out

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Speaker 3: right when you should have borrowed and you know what

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Speaker 3: I mean, and left that principle there and use the

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Speaker 3: interest on that to help pay down with you see

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Speaker 3: what I mean. But we do it out of our yesterday,

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Speaker 3: not thinking about out tomorrow. So yeah, you gotta be

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Speaker 3: careful dealing in your pain. And that's what I was

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Speaker 3: doing a lot of times. Even when I was making it,

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Speaker 3: I was still dealing in my pain, the trauma from

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Speaker 3: yesterday or show up today, and that's all of us.

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Speaker 2: You get through that. The ninety sixth season, you get suspended.

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Speaker 2: I think you got suspended the first five five games. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I remember getting.

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Speaker 3: That letter from Paul Taglable, all Taglable saying, you know

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Speaker 3: you have enjoyed the fame and notoriety of playing for

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Speaker 3: one of the biggest and well known franchise in this league,

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Speaker 3: the Dallas Cowboys, And for that, we think we should

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Speaker 3: before that, we should give you.

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Speaker 1: One an extra game.

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Speaker 3: So I got five instead of the four, right, like,

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Speaker 3: yan ya, wait a minute, wait right right? I thought

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Speaker 3: the league was supposed to be about big fair, being fair,

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Speaker 3: you don't give the same thing.

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Speaker 1: But he was like, we're gonna give you one extra.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, they gave me a five game vacation that.

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Speaker 1: I didn't want, but they gave it to me anyway.

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Speaker 1: They gave it to me.

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Speaker 2: During that time, I know just how important because we

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Speaker 2: wired a lot of light, how important the game of

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Speaker 2: football he is. And when I can't do it, not

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Speaker 2: from my own volition, something is missing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Not only is it missing, I'm letting my teammates down

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Speaker 2: because I want my teammates respect and trust. I want

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Speaker 2: my coaches trust, I want the respect, I want the

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Speaker 2: fans appreciation.

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Speaker 1: I got none of that. Now Who am I? What?

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Speaker 3: What?

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Speaker 2: Actually am I at this very moment when I'm not

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Speaker 2: the playmaker?

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Speaker 1: Right? And you know what I'm saying that.

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Speaker 3: That's why I said I was never to say when

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Speaker 3: I got back, it's never to say. Because I demanded

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Speaker 3: accountability and where was I for five games. I cried

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Speaker 3: on the sideline. I went down.

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Speaker 1: Because I realized I couldn't get them back.

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Speaker 3: You know, we had just won the Super Bowl and

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Speaker 3: all of that went down at the hotel Man and

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Speaker 3: uh Man after like, I just you know, I wanted

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Speaker 3: to get back that super Bowl and let's get back

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Speaker 3: to a super Bowl so we can celebrate again and

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Speaker 3: have a whole full celebration in the off season, and

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Speaker 3: just we can never get back. I was never the same.

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Speaker 3: I was never the same.

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Speaker 2: But Mike, your accountability was on the field. You caught

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Speaker 2: the passes, you ran the routes, you was in shape. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: but you felt that what you had done off the

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Speaker 2: general but stand up in front of you and says,

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Speaker 2: this is what I need because you felt they were

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Speaker 3: That's not what you did. Yeah. The authenticity, the authenticity. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I studied a lot of things. You know, I'm trying

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Speaker 3: to figure out trying to figure out me. Excuse me,

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Speaker 3: trying to figure out me. You know, because God has

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Speaker 3: blessed me great way to have to accomplish great things

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Speaker 3: and do some things and financially and everything. And and

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Speaker 3: now that I don't have football, I want to make

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Speaker 3: sure I don't mess that up going forward.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 3: I've always said, I mean no bones about it. If

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't have had football, I wouldn't have made it,

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Speaker 3: you know, So do what they did that one time.

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Speaker 3: What would you do if you didn't have football? And

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Speaker 3: I jokingly said it, but but I don't know if

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Speaker 3: I was all the way joking, and I said, I would

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Speaker 3: probably in present a dead you know, because I'm going

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Speaker 3: to find and try some way to be successful. And

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Speaker 3: I needed an avenue to try to go do it,

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Speaker 3: and football gave me an avenue. I don't you know,

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Speaker 3: I was going to do it. And if I didn't

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Speaker 3: have that avenue, and I could have gotten a lot

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Speaker 1: Could you separate?

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Speaker 2: Could did you ever understand football was what you did

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Speaker 2: but not who you were? Could you ever separate that

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Speaker 2: was what? Or was football tied to? Michael Irban?

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Speaker 3: I could separate once I got once I got enough

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Speaker 3: to live, you know, to be really real. Football was

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Speaker 3: the only way out there was There was nobody around

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Speaker 3: you that you saw got out. The only thing you

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Speaker 3: saw on TV was the football. That's how you get out.

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Speaker 3: That's the way you get out, you know. So so

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Speaker 3: that that was that was it. There was no other

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Speaker 3: way for me. That that's just no other way. Now

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Speaker 3: I graduate, I got a degree in business. But but

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Speaker 3: you know, I got all of them. But it's not

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Speaker 3: and it's not I got all of my My mom

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Speaker 3: told me from the day I was born, dude, from

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Speaker 3: the day I was born. I'm the fifteenth or seventeen kids.

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Speaker 3: She said, Baby, I was fine when I got pregnant

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Speaker 1: She said, I was like, I can't have another baby.

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Speaker 3: I was in church crying, and God put his arms

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Speaker 3: around me and said, Fred, not parol. This is the

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Speaker 3: one that will make your latter days greater than your

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Speaker 1: My mom told me.

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Speaker 3: This every day, every day, I swear, every day of

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Speaker 3: my life, almost like you were pre ordavery day of

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Speaker 1: She said.

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Speaker 3: I remember her opening the refrigerator with nothing in there.

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Speaker 3: And I don't know how I remember this. On God

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Speaker 3: it's my witness. I don't know how I remember, but

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Speaker 3: I remember her saying, look at this. That's all right, baby.

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Speaker 3: God gave me you. He told me you gonna make

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Speaker 3: my latter days better than my former days.

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Speaker 1: I was on that mission.

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Speaker 3: I was on that mission, and you know, and I

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Speaker 3: kept telling everybody, I'm morning this mission. I'm i gotta

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Speaker 3: get here, I gotta get here, you know. So so

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Speaker 3: football is everything for me. It allowed me the opportunity

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Speaker 3: to provide for my family. Even though I got those

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Speaker 3: me that instant help.

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Speaker 1: Like football.

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Speaker 3: There ninety six that happened ninety seven, ninety eight, your

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Speaker 3: last season ninety nine, you and Philly old vat stadium

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Speaker 3: routine play catch it, get tackle, but the first thing

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Speaker 1: Your head backwards. Did you know at the time that

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Speaker 1: it happened that something was wrong? I knew, you know, shit, dizzy.

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm trying to get the cobwebs out here.

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Speaker 3: I'm shaking up, shaking off, and then everybody comes out

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Speaker 3: and I'm sitting and I'm hearing them telling me uncross

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Speaker 3: your legs. I think I was like this, uncross your legs,

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Speaker 3: of course, and I thought I did, and they said

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Speaker 3: see singing Dan prayed like that. I was like just

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Speaker 3: head dings, right, yeah, what's going on? What's going on?

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Speaker 3: And then that's kind of how I got it. And

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Speaker 3: they gave me this little thing that willed something. I

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Speaker 3: feel I said, all right, like I.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna let you know what I feel.

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Speaker 3: So I'll let you know, right and yeah, and then

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Speaker 3: on that That's when I knew. That's when I knew.

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Speaker 3: But I found out right, I didn't know. What I

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Speaker 1: And they were like any other.

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Speaker 3: Hit can be your last, right and and I'm what, like,

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Speaker 3: what are you talking?

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Speaker 1: This was?

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Speaker 3: This was my route. This is a slant route. I

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Speaker 3: And that's what dude. I went to find out. I

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Speaker 3: went and tried to find a doctor that put me

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Speaker 1: You know. I wanted to keep.

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Speaker 3: Playing, you know, And I found one that said, Michael,

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Speaker 3: you've had this forever. You know, you played this along

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Speaker 3: with it's a risk. It's a risk. I got to

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Speaker 3: tell you that, but you can continue playing. And I

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Speaker 3: talked to my wife about it and she was stout,

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Speaker 3: you know, who know where you can do that? And

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Speaker 3: I thought that she's right. She was like, because you're

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Speaker 3: and you're going to hit somebody trying to prove and

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Speaker 3: something's going there like you can't put us through that.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna be worried everything. So yeah, I had to

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Speaker 3: finally walk away. But that was hard. That was hard

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Speaker 3: because I knew that that's that that that's my life

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Speaker 3: saving football, football is my life.

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Speaker 2: That was it because there ain't no senior circuit and golf.

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Speaker 2: You gotta sen yourself.

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Speaker 3: I see right right right, basketball, you got a big three,

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Speaker 3: you got the big three. That's basically your single circuit.

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Speaker 3: This is that And when it's gone. It's gone. And

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Speaker 3: and what you said, we can't. It's what we did

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Speaker 3: and not who we are. But separating the two when

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Speaker 3: what you did made you who you are, coming from

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Speaker 3: where you came from, it was very difficult. It was

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Speaker 1: We were all we were ready.

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Speaker 3: Daniel stubbed they had drafted stuff. Yeah, so Stebby was

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Speaker 3: You could do that. He could do that real good.

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Speaker 1: Now in ninety So you win ninety two, you win

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Speaker 2: If Jimmy because I believe because you Jimmy was your

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Speaker 2: think do you ever think about, like, man, why these

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Speaker 3: That's perfect too, And I was thinking about that. I

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Speaker 1: And you know why. You know why because Jimmy spoke

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Speaker 3: You see Belichick that speaks to that, right he so

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Speaker 3: Belichick don't want to hear. He ain't giving you the time.

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Speaker 3: talked about the documentary. CBS wanted to take let's give

439
00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:53,000
Speaker 3: less money, and all the other owners were saying, okay, because.

440
00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:55,200
Speaker 1: The good old board network.

441
00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:58,120
Speaker 3: Jerry said, ain't no good old boys here, No, no,

442
00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:01,520
Speaker 3: no CBS you out. He brought in now Fox a

443
00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:07,240
Speaker 3: whole right, Fox a whole network. And now now everybody

444
00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:10,200
Speaker 3: starts growing again. Everybody's coming back there, and CBS tries

445
00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:12,399
Speaker 3: to wants to work back in. He's doing the same

446
00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:16,320
Speaker 3: thing with Netflix. In the salary cap coaches making that

447
00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:20,040
Speaker 3: kind of money. They're making quarterbacks making kind of money making.

448
00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:26,480
Speaker 3: If if somehow they could have worked that out let Jerry,

449
00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:29,879
Speaker 3: let Jerry show off the team so he can build

450
00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:33,040
Speaker 3: a league, like he's building the league, and you just

451
00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:36,760
Speaker 3: do your thing, it would have been perfect. They would

452
00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:39,120
Speaker 3: have been Jimmy would have been the greatest coach, known

453
00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:40,840
Speaker 3: as the greatest coach ever.

454
00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:42,920
Speaker 1: Coach. Jerry was gonna promote.

455
00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:44,960
Speaker 3: It that way because you guys were supposed to be

456
00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:47,040
Speaker 3: the Patriots before the Patriots became the Patriot.

457
00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:47,840
Speaker 1: Because when you.

458
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Speaker 2: Won your third Super Bowl, Mike, you was twenty eight,

459
00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:53,360
Speaker 2: right em, it was like twenty five, dude, that crazy

460
00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:56,440
Speaker 2: Troy would like six twenty seven, and you had Larry Allen,

461
00:22:56,560 --> 00:23:00,320
Speaker 2: you had time, you had your you had had it.

462
00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:00,479
Speaker 3: Man.

463
00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:07,320
Speaker 1: It was dude, it was do you couldn't keep it together?

464
00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:11,480
Speaker 3: Turn God Oldmighty could keep that together, y'all.

465
00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:13,359
Speaker 1: Y'all, y'all could have three people.

466
00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:15,399
Speaker 3: I asked him, and today I asked him about that

467
00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:19,480
Speaker 3: because I saw the old I saw that interview in

468
00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:23,000
Speaker 3: the in the documentary when Bob Costa set Jimmy up

469
00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:26,479
Speaker 3: pretty good. But he said, you know, Jerry said he

470
00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:29,639
Speaker 3: could coach this team. Do you have any respect for

471
00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:33,919
Speaker 3: Jerry's football AGM? And he said, well, yeah as an owner,

472
00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:37,200
Speaker 3: as an owner, and then and then Bob came back

473
00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:40,160
Speaker 3: and Jimmy thought about it, and Jimmy smart enough.

474
00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:41,840
Speaker 1: I wish you should have handled that.

475
00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:44,560
Speaker 3: I know he looks back down so like when he asked,

476
00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:47,840
Speaker 3: but as as an equal, as an equal, it's a

477
00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:50,120
Speaker 3: set up rush. How the hell you're gonna ask this man?

478
00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:52,639
Speaker 3: Is it equal to him? Yeah, you know, equal to

479
00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:56,639
Speaker 3: him as a coach. Now, I wish Jimmy would have said, well, listen,

480
00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:59,919
Speaker 3: I don't expect this man to know what I know

481
00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:02,880
Speaker 3: make me any equal right to him in business? Right,

482
00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:05,360
Speaker 3: because when he's bought down copitals, because he's been doing

483
00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:07,239
Speaker 3: that for thirty five years. Correct, I've been coaching for

484
00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:09,600
Speaker 3: thirty five years. So you can't expect me to think

485
00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:12,880
Speaker 3: he's my equal like I expect him to think. Give

486
00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:15,639
Speaker 3: an answer like that and leave him some room to wiggle,

487
00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:17,800
Speaker 3: you see, because he's sitting right next to it.

488
00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:19,720
Speaker 1: And I think that was that was the killer.

489
00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:23,040
Speaker 2: I think what really hurt Jimmy is that he said

490
00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:25,400
Speaker 2: there anybody could coach this team.

491
00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:28,240
Speaker 1: But the question is could anybody have built.

492
00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:31,040
Speaker 3: This team and that that's a good that's a good assess.

493
00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:31,680
Speaker 1: That's a good.

494
00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:35,399
Speaker 2: Because to go to get Troy to draft in it,

495
00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:38,280
Speaker 2: to trade hurt and I think to think where it

496
00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:39,600
Speaker 2: started and who.

497
00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:40,640
Speaker 1: Traded her a good way?

498
00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:45,440
Speaker 2: Who traded her like Jimmy said, I did it, Jerry

499
00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:47,879
Speaker 2: said it was it was a collective thing and that

500
00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:50,280
Speaker 2: kind of it kind of and then you know you

501
00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:54,440
Speaker 2: have success. And you know you have said everybody thinks

502
00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:57,480
Speaker 2: they have success because even the people that cook the food.

503
00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:00,320
Speaker 3: Everybody, but you know that food, that was the bare food.

504
00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:03,040
Speaker 3: We don't y'all want a super Bowl with it. We

505
00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:04,640
Speaker 3: want a super Bowl running flat rounds.

506
00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:06,640
Speaker 1: Joe, I ain't got nothing to do with no food

507
00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:09,240
Speaker 1: you put on the table. But everybody that does.

508
00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:13,080
Speaker 3: Say that, why not do it?

509
00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:13,560
Speaker 1: Nothing?

510
00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:17,240
Speaker 3: Man, But you're right, And that's why winning at that

511
00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:22,399
Speaker 3: kind of pace it's so hard because everybody wants to

512
00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:26,679
Speaker 3: get more credit than he than they deserve, than they deserve,

513
00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:29,720
Speaker 3: and it's just and that's why it's hard to keep

514
00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:34,240
Speaker 3: it together. Mike, you almost got traded to the Raiders. Yeah, yeah,

515
00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:36,560
Speaker 3: you know they player. I would have loved to go

516
00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:39,200
Speaker 3: to the raiders. If I was going to get traded,

517
00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:42,600
Speaker 3: raiders would have been out here. You know, ol Davis,

518
00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:44,280
Speaker 3: You know I used to walk around when you're working

519
00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:46,680
Speaker 3: out and always come back. I don't know why that

520
00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:49,920
Speaker 3: wasn't tampering. Why they ain't never put our Tampa our

521
00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:51,920
Speaker 3: car right on back and watch you work out.

522
00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:55,399
Speaker 1: But you work out like a radar. So he would always.

523
00:25:55,640 --> 00:26:01,320
Speaker 1: So you want to be right, what hey? What a why?

524
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:01,880
Speaker 1: Worst time?

525
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:05,600
Speaker 3: Don't listen, don't David got close to you. Walk He

526
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:08,240
Speaker 3: come walking by. He always walked by you on there

527
00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:12,320
Speaker 3: and for us that was like boy, that was like

528
00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:19,560
Speaker 3: Michael Corleon and to the family.

529
00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:21,000
Speaker 1: Because when you saw him all the time, that mean

530
00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:22,119
Speaker 1: you know he knows.

531
00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:25,120
Speaker 3: And he said, you want of them dolls because we

532
00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:26,480
Speaker 3: only want dolls over here.

533
00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:29,160
Speaker 1: So you know, he played that great man. I loved

534
00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:30,880
Speaker 1: al Man. I loved them.

535
00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:34,960
Speaker 3: But Jared Jerry, Jerry even said he said when when

536
00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:38,399
Speaker 3: they were talking about trading me and everything, al Davis

537
00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:40,600
Speaker 3: was the one told him because he was new.

538
00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:41,280
Speaker 1: Jerry was due.

539
00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:44,480
Speaker 3: He said it you don't trade people like that.

540
00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:47,600
Speaker 1: He should trust me. You don't trade me like that.

541
00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:50,840
Speaker 3: So you know, so so you know al I had

542
00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:53,160
Speaker 3: a great respect and love for Hal Davis.

543
00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:54,080
Speaker 1: Man, I really did.

544
00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:57,119
Speaker 3: When y'all got time, did you know the time was

545
00:26:57,200 --> 00:26:59,960
Speaker 3: up for forty mins? Glad y'all enjoyed that championship, but

546
00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:00,600
Speaker 3: should not finish?

547
00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:01,800
Speaker 1: Get it right, right, right, right right?

548
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:04,439
Speaker 3: And and I was, you know, I called time. We

549
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:06,920
Speaker 3: had talked, dude, I got time here.

550
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:08,240
Speaker 1: He called me.

551
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:11,119
Speaker 3: When we talked on the phone, I said, He said, Michael, Man,

552
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:14,359
Speaker 3: what is it like? I said, what was that like?

553
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:19,080
Speaker 3: Going from Atlanta to San Francisco? He said, fred hold on.

554
00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:26,040
Speaker 1: I said, just I'll tell that about ten. Come on,

555
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:28,760
Speaker 1: leip all die, let me show you.

556
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:35,320
Speaker 3: Help my verbatim word dog that Jovi A came a

557
00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:41,400
Speaker 3: third you. I didn't have been all on the radio, Prime.

558
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:42,879
Speaker 1: Time party thirday night.

559
00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:45,480
Speaker 3: Yo, come on and make me help me welcome him here,

560
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:48,080
Speaker 3: help me get him here. We're gonna make sure Dion's

561
00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:50,240
Speaker 3: had to becoming boy. The whole city came.

562
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:51,680
Speaker 1: It turned out, what.

563
00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:57,320
Speaker 3: Man, you know, time is a show. He's always been,

564
00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:00,159
Speaker 3: always been there. He's always been a show man. So

565
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:02,919
Speaker 3: you put that show on, man, and I got time over.

566
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:04,840
Speaker 3: I was so happy to get him, man, that's my boy.

567
00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:06,800
Speaker 3: I love him, and I was like, man, we've been

568
00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 3: beating e jail for a long time, joined for it.

569
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:12,440
Speaker 3: Let's stop this mess, man, Let's come on and play together.

570
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:15,320
Speaker 3: And then that made that Florida thing that we love.

571
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,239
Speaker 3: Let me let's go to some current events. You've been

572
00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:21,280
Speaker 3: outspoken about your door and how the Browns have handled

573
00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:24,760
Speaker 3: that situation, and I've said, look, I ain't say the

574
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:27,200
Speaker 3: man should start, but I do believe that he played

575
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:30,040
Speaker 3: well enough in the one game because I was in

576
00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:32,159
Speaker 3: a very similar situation Mike. I got drafted in the

577
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:35,439
Speaker 3: seventh round, played really well in the preseason game, and

578
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:37,800
Speaker 3: then I started getting reps with the ones and twos

579
00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:40,040
Speaker 3: because the coaches wanted to see, Okay, he did that

580
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:42,600
Speaker 3: against the threes and fours, let's see what he could

581
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:44,280
Speaker 3: do a gift for competition.

582
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:47,880
Speaker 2: I just thought that was the natural progression. I'm not

583
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:50,400
Speaker 2: saying he takes all the rep with the ones, but

584
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:53,360
Speaker 2: I'm saying, don't you want to see if he could

585
00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:58,480
Speaker 2: perform at that level with better competition against better competition?

586
00:28:58,880 --> 00:28:59,280
Speaker 1: Correct?

587
00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:03,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, And that's the process, that's the process of his progress.

588
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:06,200
Speaker 3: I want to see that. I want to see now

589
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:09,960
Speaker 3: now what they did and Honestly, I knew they would.

590
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:12,840
Speaker 1: What they've done now is put it in a situation.

591
00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:15,600
Speaker 3: Oh, this is about to be one of the most

592
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:20,320
Speaker 3: interesting seasons for the Cleveland Browns that we've ever seen for.

593
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:23,000
Speaker 1: The Cleveland Browns. The way I see.

594
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:26,000
Speaker 3: This thing happening, and I'm you call it a prediction,

595
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:28,440
Speaker 3: I'm saying this unprophesying. I know it to go down

596
00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:32,960
Speaker 3: this way. I don't know, but old Joe he gonna

597
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:36,240
Speaker 3: play first four or five games maybe and if this

598
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:39,600
Speaker 3: team is h one four, one five, something like that,

599
00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:41,640
Speaker 3: and know you're not going anywhere.

600
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:42,640
Speaker 1: Or Joe gets hurt.

601
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:48,200
Speaker 3: Dude, Cleveland is going to be where it's going to

602
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:54,400
Speaker 3: be the first in season quarterback battle between rookies. If

603
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:57,959
Speaker 3: I'm Cleveland, I'm almost saying it's thing wide though, I'm

604
00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:00,920
Speaker 3: gonna get I'll start dealing one with he should do

605
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:03,600
Speaker 3: it the next Do you know how many people are

606
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:08,200
Speaker 3: gonna tune in and watch this live in season quarterback battle,

607
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:11,240
Speaker 3: Joe Flack or Hurt. Let's find out and we got

608
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:13,760
Speaker 3: to find out which one of these, if any one

609
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:16,440
Speaker 3: of these can do it. Market we got to go

610
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:20,600
Speaker 3: back in. This is about to be a very interesting season.

611
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:23,400
Speaker 3: For the Cleveland Browns. And I believe should do it.

612
00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 3: Get those reps that that you were talking about to

613
00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:29,800
Speaker 3: see if and once you get the reps, I won't

614
00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:32,200
Speaker 3: make sure you put a game play together for him.

615
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:32,880
Speaker 1: The other day.

616
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:36,360
Speaker 3: The other day he had no time back here with

617
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:41,600
Speaker 3: those guys. Why are we doing regular drop backs either?

618
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:44,680
Speaker 3: Either give him a quick game, just give him a

619
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:47,560
Speaker 3: quick game. And to give him quick game even though

620
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:49,800
Speaker 3: you don't got linemen in the block, give me some

621
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:53,680
Speaker 3: receivers that can work the quick game, to give me

622
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:56,280
Speaker 3: some movie, you know what I mean. And usually it

623
00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:59,240
Speaker 3: takes a quarterback two three years to really learn the

624
00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:01,959
Speaker 3: quick game where where I can take these bad linemen

625
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:04,400
Speaker 3: and still make a play that's Tom Brady's through, that's

626
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:07,000
Speaker 3: Patrick that that's that's that's stuff that's gonna take you

627
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:07,880
Speaker 3: a little time to learn.

628
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm anxious to see what happens.

629
00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:12,160
Speaker 2: And I think the thing is what your door he

630
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:14,560
Speaker 2: he he fell into the thing and and and you

631
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:17,640
Speaker 2: know best better than anybody might. You're not gonna make

632
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:21,200
Speaker 2: every play, and sometimes he falls into the trap. He's

633
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 2: giving up, bro, You can't give up that kind of ground, right,

634
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:27,920
Speaker 2: Sometimes a one two check it down.

635
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:29,040
Speaker 1: Throw it away, or throw it away.

636
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 3: It's really an incompletion sometimes is the best thing that

637
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:35,840
Speaker 3: you can have. But when you playing in desperation, it's

638
00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:38,080
Speaker 3: just like you said, okay, okay, so just like you

639
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:38,960
Speaker 3: you seventh round.

640
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:41,520
Speaker 1: Ye, so now you gotta go ahead, joker.

641
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 3: I know, like the old vet that been here for

642
00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 3: I know you don't want me to, but I'm about

643
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:47,600
Speaker 3: to block you.

644
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 1: Real hard because I don't know if I want to

645
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:50,600
Speaker 1: be a butter.

646
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, so you let somebody else getting this game, because

647
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:56,400
Speaker 3: don't ask me to go easy, send me home, you know.

648
00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:56,880
Speaker 1: What I'm saying.

649
00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 3: So you gotta have you gotta work through that because

650
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 3: you he had different place, like he's got to try

651
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:04,200
Speaker 3: to make her play, dude, Like you got to try

652
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:05,640
Speaker 3: to make amp plain because I got to make this

653
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:07,040
Speaker 3: team of your first round.

654
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:08,040
Speaker 1: You threw the ball away.

655
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:10,400
Speaker 3: Nobody gonna say that, right, but but you know you're

656
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 3: in a competition, so yeah, that that's that's kind of

657
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 3: the balance.

658
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:15,640
Speaker 1: Sometimes the incompletion of a good play, it's a good thing.

659
00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:17,440
Speaker 3: And guys got to learn, you know what I want,

660
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:19,680
Speaker 3: they got it any And that's the part that most

661
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 3: young guys have to learned in the NFL they do

662
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:24,080
Speaker 3: some throwing it away.

663
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 2: Zero is better than minus twelve. You go back and

664
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 2: look at you your team that won. You guys got

665
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:33,760
Speaker 2: Charles Haley. You took the next step. You ain't got

666
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:37,680
Speaker 2: don You went back. You guys had an opportunity to

667
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:40,840
Speaker 2: get Randy Moss in ninety eight. Yeah, if you get

668
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 2: Randy Moss in ninety eight, do you guys get it?

669
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:49,560
Speaker 3: We do it? Got no doubt. Randy gives me life. Well,

670
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:51,960
Speaker 3: he added to Chris Carter, you should have added here.

671
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 3: You know, I had spoke with Randy during that draft,

672
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:58,600
Speaker 3: and Randy we had already started a friendship. I really

673
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:02,200
Speaker 3: thought he was going to get drafted here and and

674
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:04,760
Speaker 3: and Jerry talked about it just because of the stuff

675
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:07,160
Speaker 3: that we had gone through here and.

676
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:09,080
Speaker 1: The way the media came at it. He you know,

677
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:09,720
Speaker 1: they they.

678
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:13,640
Speaker 3: Backed him up off Randy, and man, oh my god,

679
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:16,480
Speaker 3: we would have gotten Randy Moss. That would have been

680
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:18,880
Speaker 3: That would have been the difference. That would have been

681
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:22,680
Speaker 3: the difference because he was well, he ate us up too.

682
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:26,480
Speaker 3: Every time he played that Thanksgiving the game, he went

683
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 3: three one sixty three. I'm playing you know. See, we

684
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:30,920
Speaker 3: ain't get him. Now, I gotta match up on him.

685
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:32,680
Speaker 3: I mean I think I had like eight for one

686
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:34,080
Speaker 3: thirty five I thumb.

687
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:37,719
Speaker 1: I mean I was like, beat my buddy in here tonight,

688
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:38,520
Speaker 1: you know what I mean.

689
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 3: I was supposed to get this dude, man, Kylie. I

690
00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:44,080
Speaker 3: heard that bothered me too. That was another one when

691
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:47,400
Speaker 3: you look at the things that you say, the Eric

692
00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 3: Williams car accident, Yes, that costs us one with even

693
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:55,560
Speaker 3: with dian and San Francisco, with Eric Williams, we win

694
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:58,200
Speaker 3: that super Bowl, we went that suh where we went

695
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:00,920
Speaker 3: another super Bowl, you know, and then you get damned.

696
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 3: We recording certainly go win those those things right there.

697
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:10,560
Speaker 3: We get Randy. You know these are plays that man. Yeah, yeah,

698
00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:14,040
Speaker 3: we're definitely well. We could have won five in a row.

699
00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:17,759
Speaker 3: Five five in a row. Should have won me six

700
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:21,480
Speaker 3: or seven by myself, no doubt. No. I should have

701
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:25,680
Speaker 3: won three straight national titles too before I got to Dallas.

702
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:28,759
Speaker 3: I should have I played three straight national titles games.

703
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:32,200
Speaker 3: I should have won all them jokes too, man, But yeah, yeah,

704
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 3: you you mentioned the differences between Jimmy and Barry. Jimmy

705
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:41,399
Speaker 3: was a guy. He gonna grind you ride.

706
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:44,360
Speaker 1: He gonna ride you right, he gonna take you to

707
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 1: the limit.

708
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:46,400
Speaker 2: He gonna put you, take it right up to the line,

709
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:48,000
Speaker 2: and you're gonna ask you to look over.

710
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:50,839
Speaker 1: He gonna ask you to look over the lot because

711
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 1: you going to the line. Now you going right, you

712
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:56,759
Speaker 1: gotta go. You gotta go as far as I can go.

713
00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:59,320
Speaker 3: Right there, the ft and outside was telling you this

714
00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:03,640
Speaker 3: that there's say that I love that says only those

715
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:07,440
Speaker 3: who risk going too far can possibly know what we

716
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:08,399
Speaker 3: can go, you.

717
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 1: Know what I mean?

718
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 3: And and yeah, that that's how we've been doing it,

719
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:15,760
Speaker 3: you know. And it's great on the field, but sometimes

720
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 3: not to rade off the field. But then you get Barry,

721
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:23,920
Speaker 3: And Barry was a guy. You're you're a professional, grown man.

722
00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:27,160
Speaker 3: You know what you're supposed to do. Go handle your business.

723
00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:29,799
Speaker 3: And and it don't that that that that that's a

724
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:38,640
Speaker 3: great thing to say, but it's not a reality in life, no,

725
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:44,960
Speaker 3: and no kind of Everybody has to be held account

726
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:47,400
Speaker 3: to what we're trying to do. And and everybody's not

727
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:50,120
Speaker 3: going to have the same accountability if you leave it

728
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:52,479
Speaker 3: to them on their own. So we have to set

729
00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:54,760
Speaker 3: the standard for accountability.

730
00:35:54,800 --> 00:36:02,080
Speaker 2: That's why they got people that self check out.

731
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 3: You know we're gonna you're gonna try and people, most

732
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:08,520
Speaker 3: people are going to try to slip a corner. If

733
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:10,359
Speaker 3: you don't watch it, you don't watch you don't pin

734
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:15,480
Speaker 3: it down and twin championships, there is no corner slipping.

735
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:19,799
Speaker 1: Nope, there is no way around it.

736
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:23,000
Speaker 3: Nobody can give it to you, nobody can hope it

737
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:27,080
Speaker 3: for you is will you gotta go take it? So

738
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:30,279
Speaker 3: I can't play with you in the practice because they

739
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 3: not gonna play with you in the real You gotta

740
00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:33,560
Speaker 3: go get it.

741
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 2: That's just what it is. Mike, why are you on this?

742
00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:37,560
Speaker 2: And and I've kind of gotten away from this. I'm

743
00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:41,200
Speaker 2: really never big on this going back and forth with

744
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:44,480
Speaker 2: current players are former player because Tim told me this,

745
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:47,960
Speaker 2: He's like, he's like, man, he's like the problem that

746
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:51,759
Speaker 2: you have. He said, You're not wrong, he says, but

747
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:54,560
Speaker 2: because you have a gold jacket, it carries more weight

748
00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:57,840
Speaker 2: than when anybody else says anything else about their players.

749
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:01,080
Speaker 2: So when you say something about it player, you gotta

750
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 2: gold jacket. You're credential because for the longest days like well,

751
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 2: what did you do? They can't ask Michael Urber what

752
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:09,480
Speaker 2: did he do? He got three of them things. He

753
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:12,080
Speaker 2: was an all decade player in the nineties. And what

754
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:15,000
Speaker 2: number you I'm two sixty seven, what number you? Two

755
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:18,400
Speaker 2: thirty two? So you got that. So when you speak,

756
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 2: you know what you speak of. People get upset. They

757
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 2: call it hating because you can't you can't have an opinion. Now,

758
00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 2: you can't critique a play. Now, Mike, you hate right right,

759
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:29,000
Speaker 2: right right because of who you are.

760
00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 3: And Shannon that that's the power of what you do

761
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:37,200
Speaker 3: and what we have. And let me do this to

762
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 3: be righteous because I love your brother. And let me

763
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:44,200
Speaker 3: apologize to you here live while we're on because you know,

764
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:48,799
Speaker 3: even when when the Travels hundred stuff went down, you know,

765
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:50,880
Speaker 3: with its girl, and I said, come on, man, and

766
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:52,440
Speaker 3: then we finally talked about the way did we do?

767
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 3: I said the same thing to you, I said, Shannon,

768
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 3: I want you to think about that's you saying because

769
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:02,920
Speaker 3: everybody talking to his girl and said, I said, everybody's

770
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:05,399
Speaker 3: saying stuff. The only one what I said, the only

771
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:07,640
Speaker 3: way he's going to remember is what BUB said. And

772
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:10,279
Speaker 3: we're gonna need you one day to go lift them

773
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:12,960
Speaker 3: up and he's gonna bring back up. Oh man, you

774
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:14,640
Speaker 3: try to talk to my woman, man, like, you know

775
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:17,320
Speaker 3: what I mean, And that's what I was talking because

776
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 3: that's you just said it.

777
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:22,319
Speaker 1: A million other people can say it, but they got

778
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:25,200
Speaker 1: that jacket. It'll go right off his back.

779
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:29,160
Speaker 3: But he's trying to get and be you, so he's

780
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:32,879
Speaker 3: going to hear it from you, and now you won't

781
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:35,520
Speaker 3: have to have the ability to go give him what

782
00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:37,760
Speaker 3: he needs as he takes his journey.

783
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:38,160
Speaker 2: Right.

784
00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:40,640
Speaker 3: And that's what I was saying when I said, Shannon,

785
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:42,080
Speaker 3: we're gonna need you when I got that's what. We

786
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:43,839
Speaker 3: don't need you. We don't need you. This brother don't

787
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:46,160
Speaker 3: need you. I don't want him to turn the ear

788
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:49,879
Speaker 3: off to you. You're one of our greatest spokesman out here.

789
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 3: I need you to be then, and you didn't do

790
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 3: anything wrong, right, But he gonna take it that way,

791
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:57,920
Speaker 3: right because I was like you trying to help him.

792
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:00,479
Speaker 3: But but but but speaking to his girl, he gonna

793
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 3: be like he wonna protect this girul.

794
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:03,879
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. And you know that kind

795
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:04,759
Speaker 1: of cause I told you how.

796
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:07,319
Speaker 2: You have to understand when you were growing up and

797
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:10,120
Speaker 2: your mom or your dad and your grandparents told you

798
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 2: not to see that boy or not to see that.

799
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:14,680
Speaker 1: Girl, it drove you close. Now you ain't.

800
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:18,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, now you trying to pull them apart. They're gonna

801
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:20,760
Speaker 2: band together almost like a Romeo and Juliet.

802
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:23,120
Speaker 1: Together, right right right right, so.

803
00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:26,480
Speaker 3: And and then blame you because you know, like like

804
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 3: you did something. This generation different, They very different. I'm

805
00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:33,279
Speaker 3: different now, you know. I told my son. Know they listen, man,

806
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:36,359
Speaker 3: I don't want you with all these girls in the house.

807
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:41,640
Speaker 1: Women. If man man like showing my house. I do

808
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:42,600
Speaker 1: what I want my house.

809
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:45,320
Speaker 3: I'm telling you what I do want you doing at my house.

810
00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 3: That's what tell me trying to well, don't you can't

811
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:52,160
Speaker 3: do that about you know this this generation. My son

812
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:56,640
Speaker 3: like just told me one time, I said, like, somebody

813
00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 3: take my money out of here. Somebody steal my money.

814
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:03,520
Speaker 3: It's said, Dad, did you take the money? He said, yeah,

815
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:05,640
Speaker 3: I got. I said, I didn't steal your money, Dad,

816
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:06,080
Speaker 3: I took it.

817
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:06,879
Speaker 1: You're my dad.

818
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:10,880
Speaker 3: I can't steal from you. You took my money. That's

819
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:11,759
Speaker 3: how they see it.

820
00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:14,480
Speaker 1: You're my dad. What's yours is mine. I can't steal

821
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:15,040
Speaker 1: from you. I said.

822
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:17,960
Speaker 3: Okay, this boy crazy, you know what I mean. But

823
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:25,839
Speaker 3: they believe that. The generation believe my dad with a grad. Well,

824
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:29,439
Speaker 3: we ain't know, no more money around here all year long.

825
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:31,760
Speaker 3: You can't be you know, it's been a whole different

826
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:33,360
Speaker 3: thing for this generation.

827
00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:33,880
Speaker 1: Different.

828
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:37,200
Speaker 2: What do you think about today's receivers? Uh, compare because

829
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:39,440
Speaker 2: it's it's different. I mean the game is different, the

830
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:41,280
Speaker 2: way you attack the receiver, the way you can attack

831
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:43,920
Speaker 2: the wide receiver, to the space in which they play in.

832
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:48,600
Speaker 1: But they physically gifted. Now some talented mother brother, Oh.

833
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:51,000
Speaker 2: You didn't have no one on When you have no

834
00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 2: seven o cam Newton seven o seven, you ain't have.

835
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:56,239
Speaker 1: None of that. We learned to play at the backyard.

836
00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:59,320
Speaker 3: And get crazy and they they and these receivers and

837
00:40:59,400 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 3: it's passing.

838
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:01,120
Speaker 1: It's quarterback.

839
00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:03,600
Speaker 2: That quarterback coach is the middle school in junior high

840
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:03,879
Speaker 2: and high.

841
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:06,880
Speaker 3: I was telling people we were playing you had the

842
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:09,200
Speaker 3: big receiver in the fast receiver.

843
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:11,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, now the big receiver is the fast receiver.

844
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:15,359
Speaker 3: They all won, man, And it's so amazing to see

845
00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 3: the talent and skill set. You got the seven foots

846
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:22,120
Speaker 3: dribbling basketballs all the way up the floor. You know,

847
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:26,560
Speaker 3: because everybody now for sports have become such a big business. Now,

848
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:29,480
Speaker 3: it's like like when you tell your kids. Go be

849
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:31,840
Speaker 3: a doctor, Go be a lawyer. Everybody look, go be

850
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:35,440
Speaker 3: and has so you start training three four, five years old,

851
00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:38,360
Speaker 3: and they train all them all their lives. The fat

852
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:42,520
Speaker 3: guys used to shake fat. Now they're just.

853
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:44,200
Speaker 1: Man.

854
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:47,560
Speaker 3: These are three hundred and fifty pounds wide receiver looking

855
00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:49,319
Speaker 3: dudes like Aaron Donal.

856
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:51,160
Speaker 1: There's not an answer fat on these jobs.

857
00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:53,880
Speaker 3: It's look at myles game, Look at he's supposed to

858
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:54,719
Speaker 3: be that he's supposed to be.

859
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:58,120
Speaker 1: He's supposed to be that size, and amazing to see that.

860
00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:00,960
Speaker 3: It's I don't care what you he ain't supposed to do.

861
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:04,160
Speaker 3: I saw I had him well, I saw alunso spellman.

862
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:06,920
Speaker 3: Have you ever seen a lunso spellman walk through a

863
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:10,800
Speaker 3: locker room naked with all them muscles sitting on top.

864
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:14,120
Speaker 1: Of him the law, I said, god thurn.

865
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 3: Man, Oh, I would hate to make that joke A

866
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:18,640
Speaker 3: mad man. I mean, it's just a physical beast man

867
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:23,319
Speaker 3: and boy, yeah, Miles, it's different, different athletes. They're different

868
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:27,200
Speaker 3: different now now the physical skill set, physical skill set now,

869
00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:29,200
Speaker 3: mentality they are different.

870
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:29,520
Speaker 1: Also.

871
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:32,160
Speaker 3: I see receivers now tapping his heads on third down

872
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:32,759
Speaker 3: coming out.

873
00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:34,920
Speaker 2: You never coming out on third down that's the wight.

874
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:36,080
Speaker 2: I'm gonna get that ball they're gonna get.

875
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:38,040
Speaker 3: You can't even play with me if I see you

876
00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:40,160
Speaker 3: tap your help man on third down, Coach, get him

877
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:40,520
Speaker 3: out the game.

878
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:44,560
Speaker 1: Don't ever bring his ass back. You leaving now? We

879
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:45,439
Speaker 1: need third down?

880
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:48,279
Speaker 3: Yeah you want to We need to go get these

881
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:50,000
Speaker 3: other downs right right now.

882
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:51,439
Speaker 1: You can go some next.

883
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:54,160
Speaker 3: But you if you leave on this third down, don't

884
00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:55,560
Speaker 3: ever want to pay. I don't ever want to play

885
00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:58,120
Speaker 3: with you again. So so so that so you got

886
00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:00,879
Speaker 3: all the physical skill set, all the physical skill set,

887
00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:04,600
Speaker 3: But sometimes I question the desire when I see guys

888
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:06,160
Speaker 3: walking off the field on third down.

889
00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:09,360
Speaker 2: Denzel has some very some very some some very strong

890
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:13,279
Speaker 2: comments to say about them cowboys. You heard what he said,

891
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:16,399
Speaker 2: Denzil washing, Yeah, I love yeah, yeah he said, he said,

892
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:17,000
Speaker 2: I don't know.

893
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:19,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, I heard him talking about Jerry saying, all money

894
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:20,240
Speaker 3: ain't good money.

895
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:21,160
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?

896
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:23,719
Speaker 3: You know, I guess when you get up there with

897
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:29,040
Speaker 3: the kind of money for me, all money, I guess

898
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:31,879
Speaker 3: when you get up there, I can't wait to see

899
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:38,560
Speaker 3: that day. You know, one day I shore like some bad,

900
00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:44,279
Speaker 3: bad thing. Hey, that's that's a bad fifty million. Now,

901
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:46,320
Speaker 3: I don't know if you want that. When they're sitting

902
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:47,200
Speaker 3: over here, anyway, I.

903
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:52,120
Speaker 1: Decided, all right, I don't know about that.

904
00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:54,759
Speaker 3: All money and good money, but but I get to

905
00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:57,000
Speaker 3: just to what he's saying, you know, I get to

906
00:43:57,160 --> 00:43:59,160
Speaker 3: just to what he's saying. It's about let's get it

907
00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:03,799
Speaker 3: to the field, let's get back in the championship, a

908
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:06,640
Speaker 3: challenge and everything. And I believe and he's right about that.

909
00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:08,759
Speaker 3: He's right about it, and that's why, and I know

910
00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:12,000
Speaker 3: Jerry does. But that's why I thought this time, this

911
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:16,319
Speaker 3: time is the right time to get Michael Parson done.

912
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:19,800
Speaker 3: Let's not go went through a DAK a CDD. Let's

913
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:22,840
Speaker 3: make Michael. I wanted him to make Michael to Patrick

914
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:25,560
Speaker 3: Mahomes and this team. I thought that would have been smart,

915
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:28,080
Speaker 3: right the expectations.

916
00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:31,319
Speaker 2: You got George Pickens, CD comes back healthy, Dak says

917
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:34,920
Speaker 2: he's feeling good. The only thing, really the uncertainty is

918
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:37,120
Speaker 2: is your defense. But you're gonna be reliant on your

919
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:42,360
Speaker 2: offense because your best player, three of your best four players, Michael,

920
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:44,960
Speaker 2: for me, is the best player on this team. But

921
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:48,000
Speaker 2: you got CD, you got Pickens, who's coming from Pittsburgh,

922
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:51,680
Speaker 2: extremely talented, but you know a he wasn't getting the ball,

923
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:53,400
Speaker 2: he would mold, he wouldn't block. And do you have

924
00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:57,240
Speaker 2: Dak what is your expectations for the Cowboys this season?

925
00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:00,640
Speaker 1: Would you have to look at this year and especially

926
00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:01,600
Speaker 1: in this league.

927
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:04,920
Speaker 3: Cowboys probably the last year had those three twelve and

928
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:10,960
Speaker 3: five seasons. They were averaging about nine thirty points a game.

929
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:13,680
Speaker 3: In those years. They were top pretty tops in offense

930
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 3: in this league. If you can put an offense on

931
00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:20,520
Speaker 3: the field, you're gonna win some games. Yes, you can

932
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:23,560
Speaker 3: put an offense on the field and you're gonna make

933
00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:26,240
Speaker 3: some plays late, you're gonna win the game. Now Cowboys

934
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:30,000
Speaker 3: have that on offense. The issue I'm having with and

935
00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:32,160
Speaker 3: when you do go up and put them points on

936
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:36,799
Speaker 3: the board, now you just set the defense up to

937
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:39,480
Speaker 3: pin their ears back right, the best.

938
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:42,960
Speaker 1: Ear pinner you have, you're not even paying.

939
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:47,799
Speaker 3: So how are you working harmoniously to get to a

940
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 3: Super Bowl. So so Michael Parson's value went up when

941
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:58,520
Speaker 3: you got George Pickens because now every time you gave

942
00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:02,440
Speaker 3: giving Dak two receivers, he came way twelve and five.

943
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:05,560
Speaker 3: He was in the top offense, and you know you

944
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:08,920
Speaker 3: got he has that now Michael Parson should have more

945
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:11,359
Speaker 3: value because he can get to the quarterback. And if

946
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:14,000
Speaker 3: you're gonna put up thirty five points, that's the surprise

947
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:16,719
Speaker 3: that I think will hit a lot of people this

948
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:18,799
Speaker 3: year because the Cowboys will put up at least third

949
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:19,279
Speaker 3: points a game.

950
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:20,280
Speaker 1: I think.

951
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:24,160
Speaker 2: I think it was last year you spoke about your wife,

952
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:27,160
Speaker 2: who's been by your side through thinking thing a baby,

953
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:33,520
Speaker 2: and you said she's going through early onset dementia. How

954
00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:36,120
Speaker 2: has that been on you dealing with that? I mean

955
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:39,600
Speaker 2: such a young age, and to see the woman that

956
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:41,720
Speaker 2: you've been she was a cheerleader.

957
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:43,480
Speaker 1: After you met in college.

958
00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:47,520
Speaker 3: And to see her go through that and with the

959
00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:50,520
Speaker 3: support that she's given me over the years. You know,

960
00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:55,840
Speaker 3: my wife, I'm fifty nine, and we recognize some things

961
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:58,400
Speaker 3: were going wrong with her about ten years ago. Actually

962
00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:00,920
Speaker 3: really we thought it was menopaul and you know, you

963
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:03,560
Speaker 3: go through it and you start going to the doctor.

964
00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:08,799
Speaker 3: Now I'm coming off of burying my mother in law. Well,

965
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:11,880
Speaker 3: well I buried my mom. She had all the timers.

966
00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:15,080
Speaker 3: My mother in law was living with us because she

967
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:17,640
Speaker 3: had all the times and we were taking care of her.

968
00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:20,920
Speaker 3: And now we thought my wife was going through menopause

969
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:23,520
Speaker 3: at forty nine, because she's coming at fifty and so

970
00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:25,600
Speaker 3: in about a year, but a year year and a

971
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:28,520
Speaker 3: half of testing we find out it was early on set.

972
00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:32,200
Speaker 3: So we had been dealing with this eight nine years,

973
00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:35,239
Speaker 3: you know, going back and forth, and it's been you

974
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:39,440
Speaker 3: know what's difficult is you know, you know, it's quite

975
00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:42,719
Speaker 3: hard to take care of someone twenty four hours a day,

976
00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:49,160
Speaker 3: twenty four hours and she and she has that agitate,

977
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:53,799
Speaker 3: agitating all times. And I have to keep a twenty

978
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 3: four hour nurse with her, nurse with her all the time.

979
00:47:56,280 --> 00:47:58,600
Speaker 3: And these people, now you know, she get me, ain't

980
00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:01,399
Speaker 3: agitation all the time and she hits you. They take

981
00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:03,640
Speaker 3: that nurse out, send another nurse, and they put more

982
00:48:03,719 --> 00:48:04,279
Speaker 3: charges on.

983
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:05,880
Speaker 1: I mean, they running a ball upon me.

984
00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:08,759
Speaker 3: But but she if anybody has earned the right of

985
00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:11,239
Speaker 3: being her home, yes you know what I mean, And

986
00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:14,680
Speaker 3: it don't matter what she will be in her home.

987
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:17,160
Speaker 3: And I have to do it and it gets hard.

988
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:19,759
Speaker 3: But football gets me, like I'll do what they gotta

989
00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:21,680
Speaker 3: do all week. They didn't get to go on the

990
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:24,600
Speaker 3: weekend and talk football. So well, watch some games, AV

991
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:26,759
Speaker 3: a good time and I can come back and do

992
00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:28,839
Speaker 3: what I gotta do again, you know what I mean,

993
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:30,680
Speaker 3: and take care of my wife, take care of my family.

994
00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:34,480
Speaker 3: But football, still football. Playing football brought me out of

995
00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:38,840
Speaker 3: the ghetto. Now being around the game, and he keeps

996
00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:40,879
Speaker 3: me sober and gives me that lift so I can

997
00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:42,880
Speaker 3: go deal with everything else I need to deal with

998
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:44,360
Speaker 3: the most touching thing.

999
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:48,719
Speaker 2: That I took from that documentary is that when you

1000
00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:53,600
Speaker 2: got in that trouble and your wife said, the Lord

1001
00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:56,680
Speaker 2: told me, I am your wife, and whatever else you did,

1002
00:48:56,760 --> 00:48:59,000
Speaker 2: you got to work out that with him. But I'm

1003
00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:02,960
Speaker 2: your wife and I'm not leaving, but you got to

1004
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:05,520
Speaker 2: work out what you need to work out with him.

1005
00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:10,280
Speaker 2: When you told you told a story, and it almost

1006
00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:13,239
Speaker 2: like you broke that like that broke me everything else

1007
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:15,200
Speaker 2: I had been through. I thought I was strong enough

1008
00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:17,640
Speaker 2: to overcome. But when I heard heard of those words

1009
00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:18,600
Speaker 2: that broke me.

1010
00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:23,040
Speaker 3: It's to fight in me, right. I told you about

1011
00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:27,440
Speaker 3: the reptilian brain. I'd rather her fight me here now,

1012
00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:30,080
Speaker 3: physical fight because I never hit a woman. But Russell,

1013
00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:31,960
Speaker 3: what is wrong with you? What are you doing? How

1014
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:33,839
Speaker 3: could you do that? How could you do me like that?

1015
00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:34,239
Speaker 1: Then?

1016
00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:37,200
Speaker 3: What I've been taking care of everybody you know that.

1017
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:39,720
Speaker 3: That's I've been taking care of my family, your femily,

1018
00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:42,680
Speaker 3: I'm going through. You could run to that, yeah, you

1019
00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:46,959
Speaker 3: could run to that. But she didn't fight me. She says,

1020
00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:51,759
Speaker 3: I'm running, get out the way. And now she makes

1021
00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:57,880
Speaker 3: that fight between me and me. Now I'm looking and

1022
00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:00,960
Speaker 3: she just showed me in that moment how much she

1023
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:04,480
Speaker 3: doesn't deserve how much I don't deserve her in that moment,

1024
00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:08,160
Speaker 3: and she's saying, she's not going anywhere. What you go

1025
00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:11,239
Speaker 3: in the room and say to that, what do you do?

1026
00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:15,560
Speaker 3: I was hoping she gonna fight me and we get

1027
00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:17,279
Speaker 3: in an argument. I could walk back out the door

1028
00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:19,799
Speaker 3: and go do some more, right, or she said I'm

1029
00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:22,239
Speaker 3: with the boy. Hey, then you want to be out there.

1030
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:24,480
Speaker 3: I'm i'ma do what you gotta do. Well, I'm gone,

1031
00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:26,319
Speaker 3: I'll go back and do some more, you know what

1032
00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:29,320
Speaker 3: I mean. But when she hit me with that, it

1033
00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:35,720
Speaker 3: was oh yeah, boyo, that was that was the artist.

1034
00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:40,319
Speaker 2: When you found yourself alone with yourself, did you ask God, God,

1035
00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:42,799
Speaker 2: what did I do deserve this woman? What did I

1036
00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:45,960
Speaker 2: do to deserve her? What did I do to deserve

1037
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:47,120
Speaker 2: your mercy?

1038
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:52,319
Speaker 1: Now? Something like that? Anything a woman like this.

1039
00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:56,000
Speaker 3: And my mom, my mom, man, she was always like,

1040
00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:58,360
Speaker 3: you know, you meet people as you go through and

1041
00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:02,680
Speaker 3: my mom would always say, got some cook club, baby,

1042
00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:07,839
Speaker 3: but she's not the one like come on, but she's

1043
00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:10,480
Speaker 3: not the one that girl. She's not. I like her,

1044
00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:12,400
Speaker 3: but she's not. As soon as she met saying and

1045
00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:16,759
Speaker 3: she was like, that's it, that's the wife. That's why

1046
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:20,120
Speaker 3: my wife and my mom were very close, you know,

1047
00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:23,799
Speaker 3: very close. And and my and me and her mom

1048
00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:25,800
Speaker 3: were very close because her mom put me back together.

1049
00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:27,640
Speaker 1: Like even when I was out all night and that's

1050
00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:29,239
Speaker 1: round and come back home.

1051
00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:31,680
Speaker 3: Her mom would say, baby, come on now, it's just

1052
00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:34,439
Speaker 3: the devil that was trying to take our blessings. She said,

1053
00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:37,399
Speaker 3: I got you just we're gonna get you back on

1054
00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:40,760
Speaker 3: your feet. She would pray feed me, say, ain't nobody

1055
00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:43,359
Speaker 3: going nowhere. We're gonna get you back on that's an

1056
00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:44,319
Speaker 3: old school though. Yeah.

1057
00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:48,759
Speaker 1: That's that's how my grandparents, how they came up. It

1058
00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:49,480
Speaker 1: happened today.

1059
00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:53,360
Speaker 3: That's the village, when the village, that's a village. They

1060
00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:55,680
Speaker 3: were going to look out and take care of you.

1061
00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:58,319
Speaker 3: And she was like that. I loved her mom, and

1062
00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:00,560
Speaker 3: I was so close. I unless her so much, man,

1063
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:02,840
Speaker 3: because she just she just helped me with every right,

1064
00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:05,600
Speaker 3: you know, she just helped me. But but yeah, that

1065
00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:07,840
Speaker 3: that's been hard. And and that's what the thing was.

1066
00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:11,000
Speaker 3: After watching what my mom goes through and then us

1067
00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:13,600
Speaker 3: picking her mom up off the floor even at the

1068
00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:16,960
Speaker 3: house all the time. When she realized, when we realized

1069
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:21,760
Speaker 3: it was all timer's my wife, she made a promise,

1070
00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:23,400
Speaker 3: I don't want anybody to know.

1071
00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:24,880
Speaker 1: I don't anybody know.

1072
00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:28,600
Speaker 3: On I said, that's why people never found out that

1073
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:31,439
Speaker 3: I've been dealing with ten years, because she didn't want

1074
00:52:31,560 --> 00:52:32,359
Speaker 3: anyone to know.

1075
00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:33,880
Speaker 1: And and and.

1076
00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:37,279
Speaker 3: How they found out is I brought everybody because I

1077
00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:38,839
Speaker 3: told everybody that you can come live at the house.

1078
00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:40,680
Speaker 3: It's a big house. Just saw us see you come

1079
00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:43,879
Speaker 3: live at the house. Help out. And and then her

1080
00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:47,600
Speaker 3: brother and sister get in a fight at the house

1081
00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:50,279
Speaker 3: and and I'm working and they're calling me all the time.

1082
00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:52,040
Speaker 3: He has to go, he has to go. And I

1083
00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:54,600
Speaker 3: had to get her brother to leave and he didn't

1084
00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:55,840
Speaker 3: want to leave it. I had to take him to

1085
00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:58,480
Speaker 3: court to leave out. And then it all came out

1086
00:52:58,760 --> 00:53:00,600
Speaker 3: in a little court because I had to get him

1087
00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:02,719
Speaker 3: to leave right und instead of that, you know, and.

1088
00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:04,439
Speaker 1: It was just it's mess.

1089
00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:09,360
Speaker 3: This is so hard on families disorder because every family

1090
00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:11,320
Speaker 3: member loves the one.

1091
00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:15,719
Speaker 1: That is sick and they think they know what's best.

1092
00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:19,640
Speaker 3: And you got you arguing about treatment and who's gonna

1093
00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:20,359
Speaker 3: take care of her?

1094
00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:23,280
Speaker 1: And this thing requires an annoying.

1095
00:53:24,560 --> 00:53:27,000
Speaker 3: I can't do it twenty four hours a day, every day,

1096
00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:29,120
Speaker 3: so I got I have to get help. It takes

1097
00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:31,920
Speaker 3: an annoying to take care of people. So I'm praying

1098
00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:34,839
Speaker 3: for everybody out here that's dealing with it, and there's

1099
00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:37,400
Speaker 3: a lot of people that are dealing with.

1100
00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:38,279
Speaker 1: You know, a child.

1101
00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:41,160
Speaker 2: Taking care of a child can pick the child up

1102
00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:43,160
Speaker 2: you and carry them around, but you're talking about an

1103
00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:44,400
Speaker 2: adult that's not.

1104
00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:46,080
Speaker 1: It's easily manageable.

1105
00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:49,839
Speaker 2: Correct, correct, And like you said, she's at that state

1106
00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:53,000
Speaker 2: where she gets agitated and she fights you back and

1107
00:53:53,040 --> 00:53:57,200
Speaker 2: you try to calm her down, and it's a huge undertaking.

1108
00:53:57,640 --> 00:54:02,439
Speaker 3: And with a child you have of you tomorrow. I'm

1109
00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:05,239
Speaker 3: doing all of this now, but the kid's going to

1110
00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:06,320
Speaker 3: learn and they'll.

1111
00:54:06,120 --> 00:54:06,759
Speaker 1: Be able to do it.

1112
00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:10,799
Speaker 3: So you got in game. There is none here. She's

1113
00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:14,040
Speaker 3: not gonna get better. We're going to continue to do

1114
00:54:14,160 --> 00:54:16,880
Speaker 3: this and so you just got to keep that support

1115
00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:19,839
Speaker 3: and keep people around her, Like the doctor said, bring

1116
00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:21,359
Speaker 3: as much family around as you can.

1117
00:54:22,120 --> 00:54:23,400
Speaker 1: Does she recognize family?

1118
00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:26,759
Speaker 3: She she doesn't recognize.

1119
00:54:27,160 --> 00:54:28,400
Speaker 1: And one, you know, it's so funny.

1120
00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:32,000
Speaker 3: You said it for the first time about three months ago,

1121
00:54:33,080 --> 00:54:38,759
Speaker 3: and I promise you man, and least seven eight years

1122
00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:41,440
Speaker 3: before she sin she said it. She looked at me

1123
00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:46,560
Speaker 3: and she said, and I held her hands out, like,

1124
00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:49,960
Speaker 3: come here, baby, and she hadn't done that. And you know,

1125
00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:55,000
Speaker 3: seven eight years about about six years ago, six years,

1126
00:54:55,040 --> 00:54:58,359
Speaker 3: seven years ago, she came. We were in the room,

1127
00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:03,759
Speaker 3: and she looked at me and like, what's this in

1128
00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:09,719
Speaker 3: my bed? And that's what I knew. Yeah, yeah, I

1129
00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:12,080
Speaker 3: can't be in the room anymore. So I had to

1130
00:55:12,080 --> 00:55:16,080
Speaker 3: go to the other room. M M because she was like, uh,

1131
00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:19,919
Speaker 3: who is this man in my bed? You know? So yeah,

1132
00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:23,040
Speaker 3: I should have my own room.

1133
00:55:23,080 --> 00:55:27,280
Speaker 1: Sorry to hear that, Mike, just you touched on it briefly.

1134
00:55:27,560 --> 00:55:31,279
Speaker 3: Uh. Rampage Jackson his son Roger into its got into

1135
00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:35,480
Speaker 3: a situation where a psycho Stu and you like, he

1136
00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:38,840
Speaker 3: gets on the the internet. The internet is a blessing

1137
00:55:38,920 --> 00:55:39,359
Speaker 3: on the curse.

1138
00:55:39,960 --> 00:55:42,120
Speaker 2: It is a blessing to curse because you've seen it

1139
00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:45,480
Speaker 2: make careers and you've seen the end careers, and sometimes

1140
00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:48,839
Speaker 2: people performed to performed it for the camera. That's really

1141
00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:50,840
Speaker 2: not who they are, but they perform for the cameras.

1142
00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:54,239
Speaker 2: I mean all the time. They know, sometime most of

1143
00:55:54,280 --> 00:55:57,040
Speaker 2: the time, most of the time. If you could, if

1144
00:55:57,400 --> 00:55:59,799
Speaker 2: if you could, like if that was your child, I mean,

1145
00:55:59,840 --> 00:56:01,120
Speaker 2: how would you How would you go about it?

1146
00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:03,080
Speaker 1: Mike? How would you How would you have how would

1147
00:56:03,080 --> 00:56:03,640
Speaker 1: you like? Man?

1148
00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:06,640
Speaker 2: You know, I thought rampage. You know, he came out

1149
00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:08,839
Speaker 2: and says, look, I would want to apologize for my son.

1150
00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:11,200
Speaker 2: That's that's really That's really all you could do. Because

1151
00:56:11,239 --> 00:56:13,959
Speaker 2: the act has already happened. You just hope that people

1152
00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:16,400
Speaker 2: will give him mercy, will give him grace, show and leniency.

1153
00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:19,720
Speaker 2: But there's really nothing. I mean, it's happened.

1154
00:56:19,719 --> 00:56:23,839
Speaker 3: Now. Yeah, I tell you what. Now, I know they're

1155
00:56:23,880 --> 00:56:26,560
Speaker 3: trying to say all of this and and everything, and

1156
00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:29,080
Speaker 3: they told him part of scheme and all of that.

1157
00:56:32,200 --> 00:56:38,400
Speaker 3: There's a lawsuit coming. I don't apologize, who apologized who whatever?

1158
00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:42,560
Speaker 3: Cycle stue going through and and and and because somebody

1159
00:56:42,600 --> 00:56:45,719
Speaker 3: gonna get cycle suit and said, listen, we got money here.

1160
00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:49,040
Speaker 1: Well, he got some soul. There's a lass suit coming.

1161
00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:52,840
Speaker 3: I just I you know, I just want like, if

1162
00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:57,400
Speaker 3: if you're going to be doing all this and streaming

1163
00:56:57,800 --> 00:57:03,680
Speaker 3: and inviting people in, understand you're inviting in their opinions too. Yes,

1164
00:57:04,120 --> 00:57:10,440
Speaker 3: So you can't after inviting all these people in, go

1165
00:57:11,120 --> 00:57:13,799
Speaker 3: crazy on somebody else because all these people saying you

1166
00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:15,640
Speaker 3: solve and all that, you know, because that's what he

1167
00:57:15,800 --> 00:57:17,640
Speaker 3: was look calling me up.

1168
00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:18,160
Speaker 1: Ain't this?

1169
00:57:18,200 --> 00:57:21,320
Speaker 3: Ain't that what you invited them to this show? You

1170
00:57:21,400 --> 00:57:25,120
Speaker 3: told them that their opinions matter, and you allow on

1171
00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:28,960
Speaker 3: them now space in your brain, and and and these

1172
00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:32,320
Speaker 3: things happen. Yeah, I think I think I used to

1173
00:57:32,360 --> 00:57:37,120
Speaker 3: always say I'd rather somebody. I'd rather be around somebody

1174
00:57:37,160 --> 00:57:42,640
Speaker 3: that I understand, no illness is real, but I'd rather

1175
00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:46,960
Speaker 3: be around somebody that's really mentally ill, that somebody's acting

1176
00:57:47,040 --> 00:57:50,560
Speaker 3: like they're mentally ill, because somebody's acting like the mentally ill,

1177
00:57:51,240 --> 00:57:53,560
Speaker 3: or take it too far to prove the point, you

1178
00:57:53,640 --> 00:57:55,959
Speaker 3: know what I mean? And ain't somebody in middle ill

1179
00:57:56,280 --> 00:57:58,240
Speaker 3: you can kind of see it and deal with it

1180
00:57:58,320 --> 00:58:00,680
Speaker 3: and work with it. And and and I don't know,

1181
00:58:01,200 --> 00:58:04,720
Speaker 3: I don't know about him, but I was like, I'm

1182
00:58:04,840 --> 00:58:10,720
Speaker 3: worried about what I see with that dude. Wait, it's

1183
00:58:10,760 --> 00:58:14,720
Speaker 3: a wrestling match. We all know this is fake, correct,

1184
00:58:15,800 --> 00:58:18,440
Speaker 3: And that can he hit you with ain't no spount

1185
00:58:18,520 --> 00:58:20,920
Speaker 3: up in there. Gain that can was already soft and

1186
00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:22,040
Speaker 3: prepared for that.

1187
00:58:22,240 --> 00:58:25,120
Speaker 1: Here. You didn't even move when he hit you. It

1188
00:58:25,200 --> 00:58:28,520
Speaker 1: wasn't even that serious. And you understand. But for you

1189
00:58:28,640 --> 00:58:31,720
Speaker 1: to go after all of that time.

1190
00:58:33,520 --> 00:58:36,880
Speaker 3: And well like that and think that was okay, that's

1191
00:58:36,920 --> 00:58:39,440
Speaker 3: a little crazy, right, that's a little crazy. And you

1192
00:58:39,520 --> 00:58:41,400
Speaker 3: might say, well, that's crazy, Michael. We talking about that.

1193
00:58:41,440 --> 00:58:43,520
Speaker 3: We just talked about you couldn't do throwing.

1194
00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:46,640
Speaker 1: All of that? Yeah, yeah, but that was woof.

1195
00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:49,840
Speaker 3: I mean, you just pounded twenty five times on this

1196
00:58:50,040 --> 00:58:54,160
Speaker 3: man and he's out. That's yeah. What's it been working

1197
00:58:54,160 --> 00:58:59,120
Speaker 3: like with Cavin Mason? I love those guys. It reminds

1198
00:58:59,120 --> 00:59:02,160
Speaker 3: me a lot Dionne and I. You know, that old

1199
00:59:02,320 --> 00:59:05,560
Speaker 3: friendship that's been around a long time. You got those

1200
00:59:05,640 --> 00:59:09,480
Speaker 3: hidden things and that's what. But they're smart dudes. They

1201
00:59:09,480 --> 00:59:10,520
Speaker 3: are smart dudes.

1202
00:59:10,560 --> 00:59:10,720
Speaker 1: Man.

1203
00:59:10,800 --> 00:59:13,280
Speaker 3: I love what they've done and I love to bring

1204
00:59:13,400 --> 00:59:18,400
Speaker 3: because our people spend a lot of time music and

1205
00:59:18,400 --> 00:59:21,800
Speaker 3: that in sports. So when you start blending those two,

1206
00:59:22,120 --> 00:59:24,680
Speaker 3: you can grab a good audience because that that's what

1207
00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:27,360
Speaker 3: that's what we do, and that's you know that. So

1208
00:59:27,440 --> 00:59:31,320
Speaker 3: I love having that opportunity to talk to us, to

1209
00:59:31,440 --> 00:59:36,000
Speaker 3: talk to that audience. That's how I enjoy being with Cam.

1210
00:59:36,280 --> 00:59:39,280
Speaker 3: Cause some criticism Cam Newton when he said Jalen Hurst,

1211
00:59:39,320 --> 00:59:41,080
Speaker 3: he don't see think Jalen Hurst is the top ten

1212
00:59:41,160 --> 00:59:45,360
Speaker 3: quarterback and everybody now they try to underman undermine his career.

1213
00:59:45,560 --> 00:59:48,479
Speaker 3: Cam with a phenomenal player, you know, oh my god,

1214
00:59:48,560 --> 00:59:51,960
Speaker 3: won the Heisman Trophy. Phenomenal. I mean, are we no

1215
00:59:52,040 --> 00:59:56,880
Speaker 3: longer allowed to have opinions? Mike, Yes, you can have

1216
00:59:56,920 --> 00:59:59,680
Speaker 3: an opinion. You can have an opinion, but you got.

1217
00:59:59,560 --> 01:00:01,640
Speaker 1: Somebody else to have an opinion on your opinion.

1218
01:00:01,320 --> 01:00:04,200
Speaker 3: Right, That's just what it is. And if you deliver

1219
01:00:04,720 --> 01:00:09,680
Speaker 3: the opinion and you come off of anything where people

1220
01:00:09,760 --> 01:00:14,240
Speaker 3: feel you are staying professional and you go personal, then

1221
01:00:14,280 --> 01:00:17,800
Speaker 3: they're going to go person correct and it's just what

1222
01:00:17,840 --> 01:00:21,720
Speaker 3: they may see. Your every egle fan. Once you say

1223
01:00:22,120 --> 01:00:26,440
Speaker 3: that about Jalen Hurts, come on, man, it man just

1224
01:00:26,440 --> 01:00:29,720
Speaker 3: gave him a Super Bowl, took him the Tube video

1225
01:00:29,720 --> 01:00:32,560
Speaker 3: game last week, so you're gonna get some pushback, and

1226
01:00:32,600 --> 01:00:35,040
Speaker 3: you didn't win that Super Bowl. You just gotta get

1227
01:00:35,040 --> 01:00:37,360
Speaker 3: ready to handle that. And you're gonna get everybody gonna

1228
01:00:37,360 --> 01:00:39,720
Speaker 3: bring up you not diving on that ball, correct. You

1229
01:00:39,880 --> 01:00:42,160
Speaker 3: just gotta be ready for that and be ready when

1230
01:00:42,200 --> 01:00:44,880
Speaker 3: you go in, you know, be ready to go in

1231
01:00:45,080 --> 01:00:47,160
Speaker 3: when you go in and understand that's what's going to now,

1232
01:00:47,240 --> 01:00:47,880
Speaker 3: that's what's going down.

1233
01:00:47,880 --> 01:00:49,320
Speaker 2: I'm gonna get you out of here on this with Mike.

1234
01:00:49,480 --> 01:00:53,840
Speaker 2: Your dad raised seventeen kids. You don't nearly have that

1235
01:00:53,920 --> 01:00:58,000
Speaker 2: many kids. What type of father is Michael Irvin? How

1236
01:00:58,080 --> 01:01:02,960
Speaker 2: close of a your father? How he raised his kids?

1237
01:01:03,760 --> 01:01:05,480
Speaker 2: Are you to raising your kid?

1238
01:01:05,600 --> 01:01:09,080
Speaker 3: You rad like my dad was more hard on us.

1239
01:01:09,840 --> 01:01:13,320
Speaker 3: It was more difficult, tough, you know what I mean

1240
01:01:13,720 --> 01:01:16,240
Speaker 3: my dad. My dad would say I was a kid,

1241
01:01:16,320 --> 01:01:18,680
Speaker 3: he said, you know, teaching me about being a man.

1242
01:01:18,760 --> 01:01:24,840
Speaker 3: He said, being a man, it's about making decisions, living

1243
01:01:25,880 --> 01:01:30,760
Speaker 3: and dealing with the results. Are the consequences. That's what

1244
01:01:30,800 --> 01:01:33,720
Speaker 3: we got to do, you know. And so I remember

1245
01:01:33,760 --> 01:01:37,080
Speaker 3: being young and thinking I was sleeping, say, oh okay,

1246
01:01:38,000 --> 01:01:40,120
Speaker 3: so I said my dad, you know, I didn't wanna

1247
01:01:40,120 --> 01:01:42,080
Speaker 3: make a decision and try to wake me up one day,

1248
01:01:42,360 --> 01:01:44,320
Speaker 3: h I mean the decision, and I think I wanna

1249
01:01:44,400 --> 01:01:48,640
Speaker 3: quit school. He said, okay, sir, and let's gold there

1250
01:01:48,680 --> 01:01:51,240
Speaker 3: you say. I said, d I, I just made a decision.

1251
01:01:51,240 --> 01:01:53,360
Speaker 3: I thought you would being a man and making a decision, right.

1252
01:01:53,400 --> 01:01:55,560
Speaker 3: And then he said, yeah, that's the decision. The other

1253
01:01:55,640 --> 01:01:57,800
Speaker 3: side of it is the consequence, and let's go. You

1254
01:01:57,880 --> 01:02:01,720
Speaker 3: gonna go to work with me, dude, Dude, I went

1255
01:02:01,760 --> 01:02:03,920
Speaker 3: to work with this joker that first day.

1256
01:02:05,040 --> 01:02:06,320
Speaker 1: Oh, and he was a roofer.

1257
01:02:06,640 --> 01:02:09,800
Speaker 3: Like we went on the roof, Yeah, and laid tile

1258
01:02:09,960 --> 01:02:12,640
Speaker 3: in Florida. Yeah, my dad died of a brain and

1259
01:02:12,720 --> 01:02:15,720
Speaker 3: throat tumor. I to this day, I know it was.

1260
01:02:15,920 --> 01:02:18,080
Speaker 3: It was the sun in Florida beating down on his

1261
01:02:18,240 --> 01:02:21,000
Speaker 3: head every because we worked Sunday sunlight.

1262
01:02:21,040 --> 01:02:21,360
Speaker 1: Sunlight.

1263
01:02:21,440 --> 01:02:23,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you had to have those tires. You had

1264
01:02:23,480 --> 01:02:26,480
Speaker 2: to towel upstairs. I'm carried on top of the roof

1265
01:02:26,600 --> 01:02:28,960
Speaker 2: because now they got a machine for you.

1266
01:02:29,160 --> 01:02:31,960
Speaker 3: Dude, that's my hand and I had to put on

1267
01:02:32,080 --> 01:02:34,360
Speaker 3: rope pull that stuff up. You had to grab the towel.

1268
01:02:34,600 --> 01:02:36,680
Speaker 3: So he worked me to death. When I when I

1269
01:02:36,720 --> 01:02:38,960
Speaker 3: went to I worked every summer with him. I went

1270
01:02:39,000 --> 01:02:42,720
Speaker 3: to college, I took the pants in the shirt with

1271
01:02:42,840 --> 01:02:44,760
Speaker 3: all the seamen on it. Dude, it was it was

1272
01:02:44,800 --> 01:02:47,920
Speaker 3: all my on my wall and college. I said, well,

1273
01:02:47,920 --> 01:02:50,120
Speaker 3: if you don't make football work, that's gonna be work.

1274
01:02:52,720 --> 01:02:53,320
Speaker 1: I'm never going.

1275
01:02:55,600 --> 01:02:58,360
Speaker 2: I have a lot of jobs when you're growing up,

1276
01:02:58,360 --> 01:02:59,640
Speaker 2: because did they tell you what you don't want?

1277
01:02:59,760 --> 01:03:00,600
Speaker 1: What you don't want it?

1278
01:03:00,640 --> 01:03:02,680
Speaker 2: Because if you can't do that job as a child

1279
01:03:03,200 --> 01:03:04,800
Speaker 2: when you young, it got full of.

1280
01:03:04,800 --> 01:03:07,800
Speaker 1: Energy, energy right right of the doors.

1281
01:03:08,480 --> 01:03:10,760
Speaker 3: No time for it, no time for it. So so

1282
01:03:11,040 --> 01:03:13,840
Speaker 3: it's a difference. And it goes back to what I

1283
01:03:13,880 --> 01:03:18,000
Speaker 3: was saying when we started in our areas where we

1284
01:03:18,080 --> 01:03:20,480
Speaker 3: grew up, we didn't have I want to be him.

1285
01:03:20,680 --> 01:03:22,400
Speaker 3: I want to be him. I want to be him.

1286
01:03:22,720 --> 01:03:25,000
Speaker 3: Them pants in the shirt, I don't want to be there.

1287
01:03:25,440 --> 01:03:28,120
Speaker 3: That's what I know. I will not be him. And

1288
01:03:28,160 --> 01:03:30,680
Speaker 3: that's how you got it, that's how you got motivated.

1289
01:03:31,280 --> 01:03:37,640
Speaker 3: Twenty twenty six super Bow champl Cowboys twenty twenty five.

1290
01:03:38,200 --> 01:03:41,720
Speaker 3: That plays in twenty twenty six. Cowboys got a chance here,

1291
01:03:42,200 --> 01:03:44,640
Speaker 3: Cowboys got ten. We got a new head coach, and

1292
01:03:44,680 --> 01:03:46,760
Speaker 3: there's so many things. You got to see how he

1293
01:03:46,880 --> 01:03:51,040
Speaker 3: handles in game, right in game. But in this league,

1294
01:03:51,080 --> 01:03:53,400
Speaker 3: if you could put twenty five to thirty points on.

1295
01:03:53,840 --> 01:03:56,240
Speaker 1: You can win any game in this league.

1296
01:03:56,600 --> 01:03:58,720
Speaker 3: And the Cowboys have an offense that can put up

1297
01:03:58,760 --> 01:04:01,600
Speaker 3: thirty points, twenty seven and thirty points.

1298
01:04:01,800 --> 01:04:05,080
Speaker 1: You can win games. When you rewatch.

1299
01:04:06,760 --> 01:04:13,160
Speaker 3: America's team, the Gambler and the Cowboys, when you rewatch

1300
01:04:13,200 --> 01:04:18,640
Speaker 3: all that, what goes through your mind? Man? It's first

1301
01:04:18,640 --> 01:04:21,000
Speaker 3: of all, I'm so glad they're showing these highlights man.

1302
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Speaker 1: Because they forgot. They forgot to bad. Brother, what boy?

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01:04:24,360 --> 01:04:26,360
Speaker 1: I forgot? How bad I would? I ain't mad at this,

1304
01:04:26,920 --> 01:04:27,880
Speaker 1: I forgot.

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01:04:27,520 --> 01:04:29,680
Speaker 3: Blab blah, God dang I did all that? We got

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01:04:31,040 --> 01:04:33,840
Speaker 3: who touch down of the second said it that?

1307
01:04:34,000 --> 01:04:36,760
Speaker 1: Boy? Hey boy, godle don't know why we like it?

1308
01:04:36,840 --> 01:04:38,280
Speaker 1: Why them highlights? Bob like who?

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01:04:38,840 --> 01:04:41,800
Speaker 3: Everywhere I go now doing speaking engagements and they play

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01:04:41,880 --> 01:04:43,320
Speaker 3: these highlights.

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Speaker 1: I give them a copy of that. I got a

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Speaker 1: copy of all of them. I want all the highlights,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean?

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Speaker 3: So first it's always you go through and you go

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01:04:50,680 --> 01:04:51,520
Speaker 3: over those moments.

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01:04:51,560 --> 01:04:51,760
Speaker 1: Man.

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01:04:52,280 --> 01:04:54,800
Speaker 3: But but people, what I want them to take from

1318
01:04:54,840 --> 01:04:56,560
Speaker 3: and I want what I want these current Cowboys to

1319
01:04:56,600 --> 01:04:59,280
Speaker 3: take from take from it is what we talked about

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01:04:59,520 --> 01:05:03,960
Speaker 3: the CLO since it takes to win championships. I always

1321
01:05:04,000 --> 01:05:10,240
Speaker 3: say this. Football teams and organizations will never win a championship.

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01:05:10,400 --> 01:05:13,160
Speaker 3: It's too hard. It has to be a football family.

1323
01:05:13,680 --> 01:05:19,720
Speaker 3: Think about championship teams. Man, you in football, You in baseball, Reggie, Reggie,

1324
01:05:19,840 --> 01:05:21,080
Speaker 3: he got a problem with the manager.

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01:05:21,120 --> 01:05:22,080
Speaker 1: Y'all ain't got to get along.

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01:05:22,200 --> 01:05:25,840
Speaker 3: You can still win, and basketball you get probably still win.

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01:05:26,160 --> 01:05:30,160
Speaker 3: It ain't happening in football because everything is interconnected and

1328
01:05:30,280 --> 01:05:34,280
Speaker 3: interdependent on one another. So we can't have these rife

1329
01:05:34,560 --> 01:05:37,960
Speaker 3: this greatness division, this division. You can't be so so

1330
01:05:38,000 --> 01:05:42,320
Speaker 3: that that's the whole game. If you become this close,

1331
01:05:43,480 --> 01:05:46,360
Speaker 3: this is what it takes to be a champion. And

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01:05:46,680 --> 01:05:49,000
Speaker 3: you could talk about all of the talent we had,

1333
01:05:49,720 --> 01:05:51,800
Speaker 3: but you get to see the work we put in

1334
01:05:51,880 --> 01:05:56,440
Speaker 3: and the determination we had to turn it around. And honestly,

1335
01:05:56,960 --> 01:06:00,760
Speaker 3: there's nothing greater when it starts at the atom and

1336
01:06:00,840 --> 01:06:03,800
Speaker 3: you raise it till the top. That that that's the

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01:06:03,840 --> 01:06:09,360
Speaker 3: greatest journeys that you can take. Playmaker five, my doll,

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01:06:09,480 --> 01:06:10,560
Speaker 3: love your mother, appreciate you.

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Speaker 1: Brother all my.

1340
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Speaker 4: Life, grinding all my life, sacrifice, hustle back the price

1341
01:06:16,680 --> 01:06:20,160
Speaker 4: wanta slice got to brother diceap all my life. I'll

1342
01:06:20,160 --> 01:06:23,320
Speaker 4: be grinding all my life, all my life, and grinding

1343
01:06:23,400 --> 01:06:27,520
Speaker 4: all my life. Sacrifice, hustle, bad the price and want

1344
01:06:27,520 --> 01:06:30,560
Speaker 4: a slice? Got the brother, the dice sap all my life.

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01:06:30,640 --> 01:06:34,400
Speaker 4: I've been grinding all my life.