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Speaker 1: have a merry Christmas. Ask I ran off the field.

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Speaker 1: He was trying to kill me.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the NFL Player Second Acts Podcast. I'm Peanut

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Speaker 2: Tillman and with me as always my god Roman Arf.

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Speaker 3: What's up, baby man. Don't be hitting me like that.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, we're here in Atlanta. Thank you at iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 4: Allowing us to use their studios. I'm not gonna say

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Speaker 4: anything else, Peanut, I want to heart him. Get to

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Speaker 4: this legendary guest that we have today, because he has

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Speaker 4: a ton of stories.

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Speaker 2: His resume is like really long, so forgive me if

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Speaker 2: I have to read this one. He's a member of

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Speaker 2: the NFL Hall of Fame, So right there, we're blessed

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Speaker 2: with football Royalty. One of the greatest quarterbacks to ever

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Speaker 2: play the game. When he retired, he basically held every passing, rushing,

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Speaker 2: touchdown completion. He held every record that a quarterback could have.

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Speaker 2: He's known as probably the first scrambling quarterback in the NFL,

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Speaker 2: and he's an accomplished entrepreneur, businessman, and author. Ladies and gentlemen,

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Speaker 2: please welcome to the pod. Friand targetin the Friends are

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Speaker 2: glad to be here.

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Speaker 1: The free guys. We call you mister like you're yeah,

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Speaker 1: you don't need to call me mister. But you know

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Speaker 1: I've lived a great life. I'm eighty four point six

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Speaker 1: years old. I played here in Georgia for the Athens Trojan.

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Speaker 1: We won the state championship in football. I played basketball,

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Speaker 3: I didn't know you went to Athens.

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Speaker 1: we beat Valdosta for the state championship forty one twenty.

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Speaker 3: Were anybody's going forty points back now?

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Speaker 1: Because because you had a center, two guards, two tackles,

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Speaker 1: It was archaic, but we played. There's a team here

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Speaker 1: Yeah, something like that beautas ology and try to And

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Speaker 1: I did that for the last four years of my career.

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Speaker 1: if you win this game forty eight to nothing, you

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Speaker 1: Here's what I know I've never had an original thought myself.

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Speaker 1: I didn't like school. I didn't like arithmetic and reading

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Speaker 1: How'd you do it?

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Speaker 1: Why'd you do that? How'd you do this? What am

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Speaker 1: we beat Chicago Bears. We won three games. I'm going

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Speaker 1: We won. All right, we'll give you another name for

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Speaker 1: Now we go to the forties and another fifties.

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Speaker 3: He got the team all for himself. Did he stack

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's his leg He won the championships, he

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Speaker 1: So now I've got to my coach on this new

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Speaker 1: Because back then quarter called their place wasn't called from

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Speaker 1: With the Bears, they blitzed about sixty percent of the time.

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Speaker 1: So all the visiting presses around. He comes in the trill.

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Speaker 1: He said, Hey, I'm gonna have to start this guy.

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Speaker 1: George Shaw's the quarterback. We gave her number one draft

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Speaker 1: They're beating us six to nothing. We haven't made a

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Speaker 1: I went in. At the end of the first quarter.

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Speaker 1: We beat him thirty seven to thirteen. That's the start

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Speaker 1: great organization. You gotta have great coaches, great front office,

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Speaker 1: and if you don't have that, you're not gonna win much.

430
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Speaker 3: Would you say that is the biggest key to what

431
00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:12,080
Speaker 3: has allowed you to sustain your success in business? I mean,

432
00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:14,760
Speaker 3: like you said, you've been doing it for fifty plus years. Yes,

433
00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:20,040
Speaker 3: when you played, you through eighteen years you had you

434
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Speaker 3: made a salary of one point two million dollars if that.

435
00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:27,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was the highest paid player in football in

436
00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:30,560
Speaker 1: my eighteenth yer and I was making one hundred and

437
00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:35,240
Speaker 1: eighty thousand dollars in eighteen years. I made one point

438
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Speaker 1: two million in football. That's it. That's it.

439
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Speaker 4: And your net worth is much harder. Pardon, your net

440
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:43,840
Speaker 4: worth is much harder. That now, we don't need to

441
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Speaker 4: discuss that.

442
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:46,120
Speaker 1: But Ivan golf stream Jet.

443
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Speaker 3: Yes, that says enough enough.

444
00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:52,920
Speaker 1: It's paid for it. Yeah, I can say anything else.

445
00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:58,280
Speaker 3: Mike was dropped. Mike was dropped. Yeah, and we'll be

446
00:26:58,400 --> 00:26:58,960
Speaker 3: right back.

447
00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:04,680
Speaker 1: So I keep going and I stumble and I get

448
00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:07,600
Speaker 1: back up and someone hits me in the face, and

449
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:10,040
Speaker 1: I said, you know, you're right. You know I'm messed up?

450
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:14,360
Speaker 1: Is everything A touchdown pass? Know? Is everything you know?

451
00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:20,080
Speaker 1: And I make mistakes like anybody else. But I admit

452
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:25,000
Speaker 1: the mistakes. I own them. We're kind of taught. If

453
00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:28,320
Speaker 1: you fumble, you messed up. Or if you missed your assignment,

454
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:30,920
Speaker 1: you messed up. If you drop the past, you messed up.

455
00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:35,960
Speaker 1: In business, I don't find much of anybody says I

456
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:40,560
Speaker 1: was wrong. When I'm wrong, I'm wrong because what that

457
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:43,520
Speaker 1: does makes me deal with it right and fix it

458
00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:47,600
Speaker 1: and make it right. Puts the mission of business help people?

459
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:52,320
Speaker 1: What's the mission of business? We want to have products

460
00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:56,320
Speaker 1: and services that gets you more money. The only reason

461
00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:59,840
Speaker 1: we have Apple watches and so forth because they work.

462
00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:04,560
Speaker 1: And so Apple's done all right. They've built products and

463
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:08,280
Speaker 1: services that do something for you, that work for you.

464
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:12,600
Speaker 1: And there's so many people about you know, ah, I

465
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:16,800
Speaker 1: love this product. Well, what's the product doing nothing? And

466
00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:20,480
Speaker 1: they want tot through some way to maneuver and stri

467
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,359
Speaker 1: to make you buy it. They don't care whether you

468
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 1: use it or not, just so you pay them, and

469
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:29,720
Speaker 1: just so I make money. My mission is to help

470
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Speaker 1: people in business off business, and by product of that,

471
00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:37,000
Speaker 1: we make a little money. And if you don't make

472
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:39,960
Speaker 1: a little money, you better find something that really helps

473
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:43,800
Speaker 1: that customer. But now we can do it easier with AI,

474
00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:49,560
Speaker 1: and the AI is just starting, and so I bought

475
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Speaker 1: into a company. Is two guys at the company. Guys

476
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:56,880
Speaker 1: have a background in AI, really good guys. And they

477
00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:58,720
Speaker 1: came to me and that we can't make it work.

478
00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:00,400
Speaker 1: I said, I may not be a to make it

479
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:03,840
Speaker 1: work either, but let's partner up. We're fifty to fifty

480
00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:04,680
Speaker 1: partners and we make it.

481
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:05,120
Speaker 3: Didn't work.

482
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:11,840
Speaker 1: I can hardly spay it spell AI, but but this

483
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 1: guy can. Yeah, and he knew how to do it.

484
00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:17,440
Speaker 1: I knew how to make it work, and so we

485
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:21,280
Speaker 1: but we keep going. What else am I going to do?

486
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:23,000
Speaker 3: Right? I don't know.

487
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:23,600
Speaker 1: I made it.

488
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Speaker 4: I feel that eighty eighty four point, but it.

489
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Speaker 1: Might even be points. February thres, my birthday.

490
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:38,320
Speaker 2: I've got a non football question, okay, or excuse me,

491
00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:41,720
Speaker 2: a non business question for you. You are one of

492
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:45,320
Speaker 2: two quarterbacks to have ever been ejected from a football game.

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Speaker 1: Who's the old one? Because I know I'm one. Who's

494
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 1: the other one?

495
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:52,080
Speaker 3: Trit Dilford really for Tampa Bay.

496
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Speaker 1: So Trent Dilford got kicked out of the game too, Yes.

497
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:56,480
Speaker 3: Sir, we washed yours.

498
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Speaker 2: I'm sure you're remembering right of course, yeah, so oh

499
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:01,320
Speaker 2: it was a it was a boot.

500
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:03,560
Speaker 3: It was a scramble and you ran. You moved to

501
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Speaker 3: your left, I.

502
00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:06,960
Speaker 1: Moved the left and from the like a six or

503
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Speaker 1: seven years I scored. Yes, sir, you said, there's a

504
00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:12,560
Speaker 1: little defensive back. Nice guy. I can't remember his name now,

505
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:16,040
Speaker 1: just a terrific guy. And so as I'm going into

506
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Speaker 1: the Ron Bolt Ron Bolts great from the from the

507
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Speaker 1: New England paper. Yeah, new Eland, Patris, and I'm going

508
00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:25,560
Speaker 1: in and so he clipped me, probably not on the

509
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Speaker 1: back of my shoe. The shoe and I went over.

510
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:33,800
Speaker 1: So I got pissed and I scored the touchdown and

511
00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:37,040
Speaker 1: I looked back around at him and he's there, and

512
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:41,200
Speaker 1: I'm here to go, broom right here, knock him down. Now,

513
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Speaker 1: I wouldn't have done that if I didn't have my

514
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Speaker 1: center and few remembers you're looking to come. My center

515
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:51,400
Speaker 1: was Mick Tingohoff, who's in the Hall of Fame. He

516
00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:53,840
Speaker 1: was my roommate and best friend and he could have

517
00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:57,400
Speaker 1: been a professional boxer, and so I knew he was

518
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Speaker 1: around me somewhere. So he came in there pounding on me,

519
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:05,920
Speaker 1: and he's one throwing them off of me. So I

520
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:08,240
Speaker 1: so I had a reason that I could be a

521
00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:11,800
Speaker 1: little more daring because I knew kingle Off was going

522
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:16,240
Speaker 1: to always cover my my ass and take over, and

523
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:18,880
Speaker 1: so I meant a lot of bars and I you know,

524
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:22,720
Speaker 1: i'd be rude to somebody because I knew Mick would

525
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:25,440
Speaker 1: if they came to me. I didn't have to fight

526
00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 1: a Mick with But I didn't know. That's an interesting

527
00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:30,600
Speaker 1: I'm glad you told me that, because I thought I

528
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 1: was the only quarterback to ever get kicked out of

529
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:35,960
Speaker 1: the game. That's a great record. I'm proud of that,

530
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:37,000
Speaker 1: you know what.

531
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Speaker 3: I'm glad. I'm glad you own it.

532
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 1: Oh, I own it.

533
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 4: It was hilarious because you know when it was described

534
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:44,760
Speaker 4: just like you know, oh, well this guy pushed him

535
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:47,400
Speaker 4: late and like friends just kind of lost it.

536
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:50,440
Speaker 3: Then we saw the play and you're even.

537
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:53,040
Speaker 4: Like, I mean he hit my angle and that because

538
00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:54,760
Speaker 4: we looked at the ball.

539
00:31:57,480 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 3: Up at it.

540
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:01,160
Speaker 2: When I looked at it, I was like, here, really, yes,

541
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 2: they were a little defense.

542
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:05,480
Speaker 4: But I was like, I don't know if he turned

543
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:09,520
Speaker 4: around and fired Swiggs that you you go at him

544
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:11,719
Speaker 4: and then your boys coming and getting them right off.

545
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 3: It was I was great.

546
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:15,560
Speaker 1: But I say, you know, I a lot of the

547
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:18,760
Speaker 1: guys that I agitated were great. I'm playing against me

548
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:21,840
Speaker 1: and Joe Green. Yeah, he was a he was a freak.

549
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:26,080
Speaker 1: He was just a freak of My time in Pittsburgh

550
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:29,760
Speaker 1: was nothing before he got there. And so we're playing.

551
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 1: I'm with the Giants who were playing him, and and

552
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:35,640
Speaker 1: he's going after me. He's a rookie. And I said, hey, Joe,

553
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 1: you're not quick enough. I'm a step ahead of you. Yeah.

554
00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 1: I baited him, and I baited, and I baited him,

555
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:47,920
Speaker 1: and so anyway, and so he's chasing me again and

556
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:50,680
Speaker 1: I go out of bounds. I didn't get hit. I

557
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:52,920
Speaker 1: was a scrambler and all that stuff. I didn't get hit.

558
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:57,080
Speaker 1: A watch I get down, jump over out a bounce.

559
00:32:57,280 --> 00:33:00,920
Speaker 1: So now I'm in the Yankee stadium in football, and

560
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:03,760
Speaker 1: so I got he's chasing me, and he's just the

561
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:05,600
Speaker 1: wanting to get a hold of me, and I just

562
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:07,600
Speaker 1: step out of bounce. He didn't stop.

563
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:09,240
Speaker 3: He hit me.

564
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:15,200
Speaker 1: My shoulder pads, my helmet flew off, but he somehow

565
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:17,320
Speaker 1: I had my wits and he's there on the ground

566
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:20,040
Speaker 1: and said, hey, mean, Joe, he will kick your ass

567
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:25,280
Speaker 1: out of this game, and they did so. But I

568
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 1: had that was I had fun playing football. Yeah, I

569
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:33,320
Speaker 1: mean football, and I like the juice to the defense.

570
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:36,720
Speaker 1: Jack Youngblood, who's still living. Jack young Blood doesn't speak

571
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:40,120
Speaker 1: to me anymore because we're playing them in a playoff game.

572
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:43,360
Speaker 1: I think a championship came up in Minneapolis and we

573
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:46,320
Speaker 1: got the game won, and we're going in where I'm

574
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:49,040
Speaker 1: gonna kneel and so forth. And so I kneeled the

575
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:53,320
Speaker 1: first time and he's over here and he just he's

576
00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:55,280
Speaker 1: trying to get it me and hit me at da

577
00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:58,880
Speaker 1: da da, And luckily my lineman kept him off on me.

578
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:02,640
Speaker 1: And the talk is going down, and so now I

579
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 1: can run off the field and I go up to

580
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 1: the line, I said, hey, hey, Jack, have a merry Christmas.

581
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:13,160
Speaker 1: Ask I ran off the field because he was trying

582
00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:14,960
Speaker 1: to kill me. And oh, he give me the big

583
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 1: mouth all during the game.

584
00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:16,279
Speaker 3: Right.

585
00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 1: I enjoyed that. Yeah, you see, And Joe and I

586
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:26,680
Speaker 1: became great friends. Geno Marquetti, great friend. Jack Youngblood never

587
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:27,240
Speaker 1: has spoken.

588
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:33,000
Speaker 2: That's funny. So I want to talk about Mount Rushmore

589
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:35,680
Speaker 2: real quick. So Mount Rushmore it has four people and

590
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:38,480
Speaker 2: if you could put four people on your mount rushmore

591
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:42,360
Speaker 2: of influence, people of who helped.

592
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:44,839
Speaker 3: You get to where you are today. Who would those

593
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:45,520
Speaker 3: four people be?

594
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:49,040
Speaker 1: Cobra and Kelly who you've never heard of because he

595
00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:53,720
Speaker 1: was He was the athletic director of the Athens Georgia

596
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:59,160
Speaker 1: Wayiam c a OK and he coached me football, basketball, baseball.

597
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:01,680
Speaker 1: He took us one trips we'd go play other teams,

598
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:08,240
Speaker 1: and he was a giant of a man. And I

599
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:16,080
Speaker 1: met him at age ten and he really was my foundation.

600
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:21,120
Speaker 1: I'm gonna jump way on board. I've had a lot

601
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:24,800
Speaker 1: of bad coaches. Probably my high school coach was a

602
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:29,880
Speaker 1: total asshole, and my college coach was a total asshole.

603
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 1: My first pro coach, Van Brocklin, who was a great player,

604
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:41,840
Speaker 1: was a total asshole. And so I had all these

605
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 1: should have been great role models, you know, awful. And

606
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:52,280
Speaker 1: so anyway, my last six years of playing, I'm playing

607
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:56,279
Speaker 1: for a guy named Harry Peter Grant. But Grant, yeah,

608
00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:02,800
Speaker 1: was my hero. Without him, I came back to Minnesota

609
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 1: to play my last six or seven years. We went

610
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:09,280
Speaker 1: to three Super Bowls during that time, won six straight

611
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:13,400
Speaker 1: division championships. He never raised his voice in anybody. He

612
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:16,839
Speaker 1: wasn't an ex and those guy, but he was a chance.

613
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:21,400
Speaker 1: He didn't graduate from college. He wasn't his thing, but

614
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:24,400
Speaker 1: he he died a year ago. I thought he's going

615
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 1: to live for effort. And I talked to him probably

616
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:32,880
Speaker 1: twice a month. He was a hunter, fisherman. Unbelievable life,

617
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:36,680
Speaker 1: but he was. He saved my life in many ways,

618
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:43,239
Speaker 1: and so he was really really important to me. And

619
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:47,879
Speaker 1: then I'd say Sam Walton took me under his arms.

620
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:52,879
Speaker 1: I bet I opened forty stores with him. I did

621
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:56,040
Speaker 1: a lot of work with him. And he was a

622
00:36:56,040 --> 00:37:02,080
Speaker 1: soft spoken guy, genius guy, wanted to bring guy and

623
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:05,680
Speaker 1: he did something that nobody else has ever done in

624
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:10,640
Speaker 1: the timeframe, right, and so and so he would he

625
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:14,200
Speaker 1: would be that guy. And the fourth guy's my father. Yeah,

626
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:19,240
Speaker 1: the fourth guy's my father who grew up. His father

627
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:23,000
Speaker 1: was a policeman. His father was killed in Norfolk, Virginia,

628
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:27,520
Speaker 1: in line of duty. He lost his mother when he

629
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 1: was sixteen years old. He took care of his younger

630
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:35,960
Speaker 1: sister and he made it and he became an educator, preacher,

631
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:40,759
Speaker 1: and he was a smart business guy. And I'll give

632
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:45,319
Speaker 1: you one. We're playing game against the Cowboys and it's

633
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:49,840
Speaker 1: the Roger Staubach Hail Mary pass and we have the

634
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:53,560
Speaker 1: game one. There's thirty seconds left. He's on his own

635
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:56,759
Speaker 1: forty yard line, about his last deal. He throws it

636
00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:58,839
Speaker 1: up in the air. It was the first hail Mary

637
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 1: past ever was. It bounces off the ends, the foot

638
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:07,680
Speaker 1: goes up there, catches it in the end zone and

639
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:12,399
Speaker 1: they win, and we had it won. So I came

640
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:16,360
Speaker 1: out after the game and I'm looking, we're going to

641
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:18,960
Speaker 1: win a bago with some of my teammates and wives.

642
00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:24,240
Speaker 1: We're watching the second half game and Jack Buck, the

643
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:27,600
Speaker 1: father of the Buck who's now doing football, he was

644
00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 1: the announcer. So he announces the death of my father.

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Speaker 1: My father was sixty two years old and he was

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Speaker 1: preaching for a friend of his in Savannah, Georgia, and

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00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:43,839
Speaker 1: somewhere doing the second half of the game, watching the game.

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00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:50,200
Speaker 1: He has a massive heart attack and he dies. That's

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Speaker 1: tough deal. Yeah, that's tough deal.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And so but you know what they all they all

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00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:03,480
Speaker 1: either destroy you or they build your character. Yeah, very true.

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00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:09,840
Speaker 1: They build my character. And I'm whatever. You know, success

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Speaker 1: I've had is not because of me. It is because

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Speaker 1: of these people and many more people who I've learned from.

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00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:20,920
Speaker 1: Uh And and I look back and I want to say,

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Speaker 1: I'm surprised that all these things have happened from not

658
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:28,000
Speaker 1: only from sports and football, but business business. I think

659
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:30,359
Speaker 1: I've done even more than I did in sports. I

660
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:33,239
Speaker 1: know I am, yeah, uh and I'm very proud of that.

661
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:36,239
Speaker 1: But that's because of the other people too. You know,

662
00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:38,880
Speaker 1: I had the right partners, the right the right right people,

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00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:42,560
Speaker 1: the right them. And so now you know, I'm the

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Speaker 1: old guy around there.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 1: Now at my age, I'm dealing with deaths of my friends.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And one of my great friends died two days ago,

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Speaker 1: and he was a basketball player South Carolina Big he

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00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:02,080
Speaker 1: was eighty seven years o oh. And I talked to

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Speaker 1: him two weeks ago and he was doing fine. People

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00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:06,680
Speaker 1: asked me what he die of. I he died of

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Speaker 1: old age, you know, but but I had this. I

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Speaker 1: celebrate his life the last two days with who me

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Speaker 1: with me? You know, I talked. So I've been talking

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Speaker 1: to him for the last two days like that, and uh,

677
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Speaker 1: And he will never be dead in my life. He's

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00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:30,400
Speaker 1: alive and well in my life. And that's the way

679
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:33,360
Speaker 1: I live my life. That's beautiful and uh, and I

680
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:38,560
Speaker 1: appreciate you guys coming around and and and chatting with me.

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00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:43,000
Speaker 1: Uh and I I got to tell you this year

682
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:46,799
Speaker 1: both obviously great successes. And you you're smart as hell

683
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:52,800
Speaker 1: and you're good looking guys. And I played. I didn't

684
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:56,480
Speaker 1: play with any black players in college. I played in

685
00:40:56,520 --> 00:41:02,320
Speaker 1: the Orange Bowl against Missouri players. On my first team

686
00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 1: in Minnesota, we had four. On my last day in Minnesota,

687
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:11,759
Speaker 1: we had about seventy. And I it was the greatest

688
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 1: to be able to come and play in the NFL.

689
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:19,520
Speaker 1: And I would say all of my teammates are kind

690
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:23,120
Speaker 1: of my favorites. But you know the name Jim Marshall. Yeah,

691
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:26,440
Speaker 1: of course I went the wrong way exactly. I was

692
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:30,320
Speaker 1: in that game. We're in San Francisco and we're gonna

693
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:34,880
Speaker 1: beat him, and Jim had picked up a fumble and

694
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:37,799
Speaker 1: he starts going the other way and I'm on the

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00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 1: sideline running with him. Jim, you're going to run play Jim.

696
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:47,239
Speaker 1: He looks over at me and he gets in the

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00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 1: end zone. Me to them, all, well, let me tell

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00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:55,080
Speaker 1: you what Jim. Jim Marshall came to us in sixty one,

699
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:58,120
Speaker 1: one week before the season started. He had played a

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00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:01,200
Speaker 1: couple of years in Cleveland and one in Canada. Thing

701
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:06,359
Speaker 1: he had had some sickness or something. He was six

702
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:11,480
Speaker 1: foot three or four, maybe two thirty five. He played

703
00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:15,960
Speaker 1: that first game with us three days. He never missed

704
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:20,360
Speaker 1: a game, He never missed a practice. He is the

705
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:23,720
Speaker 1: Minnesota Vikings. He's the heart and soul of our team.

706
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:28,239
Speaker 1: I played him in chess in training camp every year.

707
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 1: I never beat him. He's the sweetest, toughest, smartest, greatest

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00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:38,839
Speaker 1: human being I've ever known. And I'm working on He's

709
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:40,880
Speaker 1: out in the Hall of Fame and I have been working.

710
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:43,840
Speaker 1: I'm going to get him in that Hall of Fame somehow.

711
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:51,960
Speaker 1: But he he just he was phenomenal. He was phenomenal.

712
00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:55,799
Speaker 1: And you know, I think in this crazy world, we

713
00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:59,719
Speaker 1: have the greatness now for you guys who came after me,

714
00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:05,280
Speaker 1: to be able to go in and have diverse people

715
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:11,480
Speaker 1: playing side by side. There's nothing all the business I had,

716
00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:16,200
Speaker 1: nothing like being around the guys. There's nothing like being

717
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:18,759
Speaker 1: in the trenches. You either win or lose. You do

718
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:22,440
Speaker 1: it in sixty minutes. And those guys that we deal with,

719
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:24,359
Speaker 1: if you guys, you never forget them.

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Speaker 3: True.

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Speaker 1: That's the people that live forever in your life, and

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Speaker 1: I'm so grateful that I had that chance to do that.

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Speaker 3: We appreciate you, mister Frank. Thank you so much.

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Speaker 4: Man, I really, really truly am thankful for that. And

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Speaker 4: you spend this time with us. Man, We're going to

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Speaker 4: get ourself out of here. You ready, So wherever you

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Speaker 3: You tell a friend, and tell a friend and teller friends.

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Speaker 3: Get us out here.

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Speaker 2: Hey, I'm peanut. We were blessed with Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 2: Mister friend. Hey, that's my guy.

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Speaker 3: Wrong. We appreciate y'all watching the show.

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