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Speaker 2: Some people say entrepreneur if they want to talk to

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Speaker 2: me about other stuff. Most people say podcast if they

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Speaker 1: I'm comfortable with all time, all times.

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Speaker 3: Welcome to Naked Sports, the podcast where we live at

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Speaker 3: the intersection of sports, politics, and culture. Our purpose reveal

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Speaker 3: the common threads that bind them all.

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Speaker 1: So what's happening in women's basketball right now is what

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Speaker 1: we've been trying to get to for almost thirty years.

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Speaker 3: From the stadiums where athlete to break barriers and set records.

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Speaker 3: Caitlin Clark broke the all time single game assists record.

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Speaker 3: This is crazy for rookies to be doing. Our discussions

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Speaker 3: will uncover the vital connections between these realms and the

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Speaker 3: community we create. Welcome to Naked Sports. I'm your host,

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Speaker 3: Carrie Champion. Hey everybody, welcome to you another edition of

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Speaker 3: Naked I appreciate you all being here. I haven't done

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Speaker 3: the intro in a very long time, but there is

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Speaker 3: a reason why I am doing an intro. So today's

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Speaker 3: guest is not necessarily an athlete or a politician for

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Speaker 3: that matter, but I do believe that she lives in

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Speaker 3: the intersection that this podcast tries to live in, and

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Speaker 3: that's just culture, deep in the culture. It may not

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Speaker 3: be your culture, but I would say it's culture. She

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Speaker 3: is one half of the very popular podcast Decisions Decisions.

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Speaker 3: It used to be known as Horrible Decisions, but now

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Speaker 3: it's Decisions Decisions. She is an entrepreneur. She owns if

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Speaker 3: you're in the New York area tramp House Fitness, I

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Speaker 3: don't know if you ever heard of it. And if

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Speaker 3: you are in LA and or New York and you

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Speaker 3: wrint studio space, she has WTF Media. Her name is Wheezy.

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Speaker 3: I say all that to say in the beginning of

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Speaker 3: the pod, we're like, well, what's your title. I'm like,

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Speaker 3: let's do all the multi hyphenets. I love how you think.

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Speaker 3: I love how you moved. My intention of interviewing her

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Speaker 3: today was it to make this a podcast about sex.

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Speaker 3: But of course, so we talked about sex. But I

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Speaker 3: am genuinely curious about her curiosity when it comes to

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Speaker 3: when we live in society and a culture that says

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Speaker 3: to us no, no, no, you're not allowed to feel that. No, no,

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Speaker 3: That's an incredibly vulnerable thing to do, and it's even

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Speaker 3: more courageous, in my opinion, to share. But when you share,

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Speaker 3: people often judge. And she is finding herself in a

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Speaker 3: very beautiful space. While I do love what I do

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Speaker 3: and I created this niche podcast about sexual freedom, I

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Speaker 3: In her words, so I think, not only is this

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Speaker 3: an interesting podcast about who you are, but I think

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Speaker 3: I hope you enjoyed this version of Naked Sports. I'm

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Speaker 3: Horrible Decisions, but now it's called Decisions Decisions. Why did

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Speaker 2: So Charlotte Vagne gave us a book deal, No Holds Barred,

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Speaker 2: we had horror in the title. We were so burned

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Speaker 2: I mean even calling them out. Carrie, I tried to

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Speaker 1: It was meant to be punny and funny, and it just.

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Speaker 1: You know, I've tried to let them know I'm not

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Speaker 3: Why the title? Why do you? When you you and

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Speaker 3: Horrible Decisions? Why where did that live? What was the pun?

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Speaker 2: We were maybe having a conversation. I came up a

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Speaker 2: One of my homegirls just got a BBO. This is

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Speaker 2: She said, someone just called me a bird and I

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Speaker 2: Decisions would be us talking about sex and kink and

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Speaker 3: I wasn't judging you. Tell me about experiences with threesomes

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Speaker 2: I'm not a robot girl, Like I'm mainly talking to

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Speaker 1: Nobody's never calling me a whole in my YouTube comment.

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Speaker 1: So they're like, we tuned in for a fun story, right.

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Speaker 2: They want the actual or they want the nastiness, the kinkiness,

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Speaker 1: But to see those that aren't in my demo and.

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Speaker 4: How they view what I call liberation, and they're like,

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Speaker 3: Those people, those people have never had an orgasm. This

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Speaker 2: Original before, and Horrible Decisions still exists behind a paywall,

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00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:14,920
Speaker 2: but it's just not as accessible for that.

435
00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:26,200
Speaker 3: Here's something that's interesting when you talk about this. There

436
00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:29,000
Speaker 3: is a joy and an excitement that you have that

437
00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:33,240
Speaker 3: I think only is fitted for passion for people who

438
00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:38,679
Speaker 3: are passionate about what they do. You said something that

439
00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:42,440
Speaker 3: I want to explore. Why is it odd or what

440
00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:46,480
Speaker 3: is the connection that black people who are key or

441
00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:50,120
Speaker 3: into kink or listening to horrible decisions? What does that

442
00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:54,760
Speaker 3: tribe feel like to you when they interact with you

443
00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:55,760
Speaker 3: or connect with you?

444
00:21:56,600 --> 00:22:00,160
Speaker 2: Well, that horror high? Right, So, how I started this episode?

445
00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:03,399
Speaker 2: How I was upset with those people eating comments. I

446
00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:06,680
Speaker 2: know we were all pretty much raised the same way.

447
00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:09,040
Speaker 2: If you think or you got on crop top, or

448
00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:12,520
Speaker 2: you want to talk to somebody, you fast right, were

449
00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:15,480
Speaker 2: period and my white home girls like my mom, that's

450
00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:19,480
Speaker 2: my boyfriend sleep by over, not us, you know, how

451
00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:22,040
Speaker 2: dare you? It's the Obama effect. He had to be

452
00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:23,720
Speaker 2: the best president in the world. Like, you can't be

453
00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:27,800
Speaker 2: black in this, you know, And so I see it.

454
00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:30,600
Speaker 2: I see it with horrible decisions all the time. You

455
00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:33,760
Speaker 2: cannot be black and kinky. You cannot be black and

456
00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:36,160
Speaker 2: permis you. You cannot be black and polyamorous.

457
00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:38,439
Speaker 1: You just can't. There's no room for it.

458
00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:45,199
Speaker 2: I'm my partner's Nigerian, right, the brothers law, medical, you

459
00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:45,600
Speaker 2: know what I mean?

460
00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:46,200
Speaker 1: Education?

461
00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:48,760
Speaker 2: He was like, nah, I'm not really failing this. I

462
00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:53,639
Speaker 2: think I'm a best ah. How dare you?

463
00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:55,360
Speaker 1: You know? You I come to this country and now

464
00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:56,680
Speaker 1: you want to be an investor?

465
00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:03,960
Speaker 3: Like so true, so true? You have any African friends,

466
00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:05,320
Speaker 3: you already know it's the truth.

467
00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:09,879
Speaker 2: Go ahead, too, up And I think that's really what

468
00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:11,560
Speaker 2: it is, right, is that we all grew up the

469
00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:13,680
Speaker 2: same and we were told we had to follow this way,

470
00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:16,359
Speaker 2: So to kind of be black and alternative is just

471
00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:17,880
Speaker 2: the thing that kind of like.

472
00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:18,439
Speaker 1: Really gets me.

473
00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:20,760
Speaker 2: I remember going to like raves and stuff like that

474
00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:22,360
Speaker 2: when I was young, sneaking out, and if I saw

475
00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:23,800
Speaker 2: a black girl there'd be like, oh my god, we're

476
00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:24,880
Speaker 2: like one of a kind.

477
00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:27,840
Speaker 1: Like it's us, sister, It's just us. We're the only

478
00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:29,240
Speaker 1: ones that want the house music.

479
00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:31,520
Speaker 2: And so I think when it came to black kink

480
00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:34,080
Speaker 2: spaces that tribe, what they mean to me is knowing

481
00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:36,960
Speaker 2: we're all the rejects in a way. I like misfit

482
00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:41,520
Speaker 2: energy and it feels very good. I love somebody saying

483
00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:44,400
Speaker 2: something crazy and no one going ill.

484
00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:47,760
Speaker 3: But what if someone does, as you talked about in

485
00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:50,400
Speaker 3: the beginning of this episode, when people make those comments,

486
00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:53,280
Speaker 3: it's still you. What does that feel like when someone

487
00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:54,760
Speaker 3: says ill or judge you.

488
00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:57,560
Speaker 2: I think for me, the only reason it heard is

489
00:23:57,560 --> 00:23:59,200
Speaker 2: because it was by the thousands this week.

490
00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:04,240
Speaker 3: You're like the valume of it all.

491
00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:06,959
Speaker 2: But there's always gonna be one that says that. But

492
00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:09,920
Speaker 2: it doesn't matter because I'm not even gonna see the comment.

493
00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:11,760
Speaker 2: Carry They're gonna be like, no, we is He's out

494
00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:14,760
Speaker 2: here for the girls. Like, do we're that community?

495
00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:14,959
Speaker 3: Right?

496
00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:18,440
Speaker 2: We're making each other feel safe in our choices. However,

497
00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:22,159
Speaker 2: I think that's what I know that we brought to

498
00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:25,359
Speaker 2: each other. Like we do a live episode of Horrible

499
00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:28,639
Speaker 2: every month, right, somebody unmutes their mic. It's just fans

500
00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:30,520
Speaker 2: in it with me and Mandy, just like on zom

501
00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:33,280
Speaker 2: someone unuts might like, oh my god, y'all, So my

502
00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:37,239
Speaker 2: boyfriend and his boyfriend are gonna come over tonight. And

503
00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:39,040
Speaker 2: so what I'm telling my girlfriend is and we all

504
00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:41,879
Speaker 2: just sit in there like yep, right, and it's like

505
00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:44,760
Speaker 2: it's crazy, But is it crazy that.

506
00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:49,600
Speaker 3: For you all? Not for you, not for your tribe, and.

507
00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:51,920
Speaker 2: Knowing that we have that with each other is so special.

508
00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:55,240
Speaker 2: Like my on my fourth date with my boyfriend three

509
00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:57,400
Speaker 2: years ago, we went to a place called Last Lap

510
00:24:57,400 --> 00:24:59,600
Speaker 2: in New York, to staple black bar in the Lower

511
00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:02,440
Speaker 2: East Side. He knew I had a podcast, but he

512
00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:05,320
Speaker 2: didn't understand. And his girl comes up to me, Carrie

513
00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:07,840
Speaker 2: in tears, and she goes.

514
00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:14,439
Speaker 1: Weezy like I I haven't had sex in four years.

515
00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:16,720
Speaker 2: I've been going through so much trauma in an abusive

516
00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:22,200
Speaker 2: relationship because my husband slapped me during a sexual act

517
00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:24,240
Speaker 2: I wanted to try. She wanted to do something kinky,

518
00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:27,359
Speaker 2: and he was like, yo, like you are pretty much

519
00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:29,359
Speaker 2: in an abomination, Like where did you get the shit from?

520
00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:31,480
Speaker 2: She's like, he told my parents. He made me feel

521
00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:34,199
Speaker 2: like I had no relationship to God anymore. Like it

522
00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:36,560
Speaker 2: was just he really messed with her head emotionally too.

523
00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:39,000
Speaker 2: And she was like and last night, She's like, I

524
00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:41,800
Speaker 2: feel like God brought me to you. Last night I

525
00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:45,040
Speaker 2: had the most amazing, freeing sex. He made me feel special.

526
00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:48,600
Speaker 2: It was romantic. I got to have a rebirth. And

527
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:51,040
Speaker 2: my boyfriend's sitting there like, what the fuck does this

528
00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:51,840
Speaker 2: bitch do?

529
00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:53,160
Speaker 3: What is this podcast?

530
00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:53,639
Speaker 1: You do?

531
00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:54,000
Speaker 3: Am?

532
00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:57,320
Speaker 2: And it's so basic, right, someone is going to listen

533
00:25:57,320 --> 00:25:58,440
Speaker 2: to this and be like, girl, all you do is

534
00:25:58,440 --> 00:25:59,480
Speaker 2: talk about second.

535
00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:05,720
Speaker 1: There's something that made this girl feel seen.

536
00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:08,359
Speaker 2: And if I did this for ten years and all

537
00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:11,440
Speaker 2: this strife for that girl, then that's what I did.

538
00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:14,680
Speaker 1: Like I don't know how she felt normal.

539
00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:18,720
Speaker 2: I don't know what episode activated that in her, but like, nah,

540
00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:20,760
Speaker 2: like that's the thing that gets me excited. And it's

541
00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:24,440
Speaker 2: not the decisions. Decision isn't special, because that also is.

542
00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:27,000
Speaker 2: I think it's that I've been doing something for so long,

543
00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:28,360
Speaker 2: I'm learning a new thing.

544
00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:31,920
Speaker 3: What in that new thing would be if you had

545
00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:36,760
Speaker 3: to describe it, just you're learning to what assimilate we

546
00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:40,040
Speaker 3: referring to decisions decisions. What is this new thing you're learning.

547
00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:44,119
Speaker 1: I'm learning how to scale. I'm learning that that niche

548
00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:47,200
Speaker 1: show that I had at the end of the day,

549
00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:52,359
Speaker 1: decisions decisions paid, was maybe fifty percent cent of my

550
00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:54,720
Speaker 1: down payment on my home. So anyway, you want to

551
00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:57,359
Speaker 1: click and do a little stalking, and you know Carrie,

552
00:26:57,359 --> 00:26:59,280
Speaker 1: but you don't know me. Here's some tea for you.

553
00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:02,399
Speaker 3: She bought a beautiful home in California, in the hills

554
00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:04,840
Speaker 3: with oranges. I was, I was all on the page

555
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:06,720
Speaker 3: and when I said, we're all rooting for you. When

556
00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:08,639
Speaker 3: I tell you, we were so happy for you, we

557
00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:10,440
Speaker 3: all fought home when you bought a home.

558
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:11,600
Speaker 1: I felt that energy.

559
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:15,080
Speaker 2: I actually ran into a girl at Trader Jones who

560
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:17,000
Speaker 2: was like, oh my god, bitch, I'm from the view

561
00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:18,160
Speaker 2: that she was in his neighborhood.

562
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:19,080
Speaker 1: Girl, I'm so proud of you.

563
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:22,320
Speaker 2: It was so sweet, and I think we feel that

564
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:25,680
Speaker 2: like when we see someone grow. My followers know I've

565
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:27,960
Speaker 2: been ranting, and there was some struggles. In the beginning

566
00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:31,479
Speaker 2: of the show, I moved my mother. You know, my

567
00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:33,679
Speaker 2: mom lives with me. Now my dad's nursing home is

568
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:36,280
Speaker 2: nine minutes. I moved his place, so we're all together.

569
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:40,920
Speaker 2: Decision's Decisions had such a big check the first year

570
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:43,520
Speaker 2: the name changed that it was literally I was like, oh,

571
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:46,280
Speaker 2: I can afford to buy now. I've had to make

572
00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:48,439
Speaker 2: so many other businesses y'all might know me from, like

573
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:52,000
Speaker 2: trap House or the podcast studio, that like, now my

574
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:55,040
Speaker 2: biggest venture how everyone knows me actually made me money.

575
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:57,560
Speaker 2: It was making me feel sad and happy at the

576
00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:01,879
Speaker 2: same time. Because Decisions, to me, is more important to

577
00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:05,800
Speaker 2: the culture. It is more reputable as a not reputable,

578
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:08,439
Speaker 2: it's more recognizable as a brand.

579
00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:12,240
Speaker 1: It's more popular. I get less listens.

580
00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 2: On Decisions Decisions, but more money than I did when

581
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:15,240
Speaker 2: it was horrible.

582
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:19,360
Speaker 1: It's like a sellout in a weird way, or is it.

583
00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:23,160
Speaker 1: I don't think the fans think it is because they

584
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:25,159
Speaker 1: want Mandy and I to do well because they've been

585
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:26,880
Speaker 1: around so long. But like, yes it is.

586
00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:32,040
Speaker 2: I call her daddy, but poor the call her daddy

587
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:36,040
Speaker 2: girl the snake to friend and her talking about sex

588
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:39,280
Speaker 2: and being these cool white girls that blah blah blah,

589
00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:41,040
Speaker 2: and now she interviews Kamala Harris.

590
00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:45,200
Speaker 3: You know, I want to say something about that. The

591
00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:49,440
Speaker 3: life of a black woman, a black or brown woman marginalized.

592
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:52,600
Speaker 3: They we are not allowed to have certain joy in

593
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:58,719
Speaker 3: society at scale. Like a woman, a woman like I

594
00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:01,720
Speaker 3: interviewed Jane Kind, a legend in her field, and she's

595
00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:05,040
Speaker 3: seventy five years old and she's essentially Yeah, her career

596
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 3: ended because a sex tape came out. When you have

597
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:10,600
Speaker 3: someone like Kim Kardashian who is a billionaire now because

598
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:13,120
Speaker 3: of a sex tape, or I can list a bunch

599
00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:15,400
Speaker 3: of women that I work with who have tapes that

600
00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:18,120
Speaker 3: have that are not black, that have allowed them to

601
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:21,920
Speaker 3: be curious about sex.

602
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:23,400
Speaker 1: It's Taylor.

603
00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:26,680
Speaker 3: It's not viewed as it's not viewed as something bad.

604
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:30,600
Speaker 3: It just isn't though. Unfortunately Joy, I think Joy is

605
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:33,280
Speaker 3: taking hits for no reason, right. I think people have

606
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:38,400
Speaker 3: been and we don't even know. That's just that's conjecture.

607
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:40,200
Speaker 3: That was a lawsuit. We don't even know what's going

608
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:42,520
Speaker 3: on with her. I don't even know. It's none of

609
00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:46,400
Speaker 3: our business. Most importantly, but if she's not able to

610
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:48,760
Speaker 3: take this moment and flip it and become a billionaire,

611
00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:53,960
Speaker 3: like somebody else could write, like, for instance, black women

612
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:57,320
Speaker 3: could like I think of Kayla mcicole, I'm gonna do

613
00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:59,440
Speaker 3: her pot tomorrow. I look, I look at her and

614
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 3: what happened with Travis and while they were together, he

615
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:06,760
Speaker 3: you know his he couldn't stay faithful. But then he

616
00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:10,640
Speaker 3: flips and he gets this. He gets Taylor of all people, right,

617
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:13,200
Speaker 3: the biggest star we have, and it's a different He's

618
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:15,440
Speaker 3: a different human. He's moving differently, he sought of differently,

619
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:18,480
Speaker 3: and she has to and a good to her credit.

620
00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:20,840
Speaker 3: I think she's trying to make that moment happen and

621
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:22,800
Speaker 3: make and make some money off of it. She's trying

622
00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:23,160
Speaker 3: to ski.

623
00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:25,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, when I saw that Super Bowl commercial.

624
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:28,440
Speaker 3: I think she's scaling that moment.

625
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:30,040
Speaker 1: No, I know she ain't give a fuck about get you.

626
00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:33,720
Speaker 3: She didn't care get your money. So I think what

627
00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:37,880
Speaker 3: you're saying is is a direct reflection on the archaic

628
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:40,920
Speaker 3: ideas that we still have in society about black and

629
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:41,480
Speaker 3: brown women.

630
00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:46,720
Speaker 2: And Karen, can I tell you Kayla is a phenomenal example.

631
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:49,560
Speaker 2: The day that we found out Travis was Dayton, Taylor

632
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:51,960
Speaker 2: a mutual friend of ours said, called me.

633
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:54,280
Speaker 1: I said, what you're doing. I'm about to go to Kayla's.

634
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:55,000
Speaker 1: How she want to come?

635
00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:57,040
Speaker 2: And She's like, I'm bringing flowers, I'm bringing candy and

636
00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:59,160
Speaker 2: I was like yeah, yeah, yeah. I was like, have

637
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:02,040
Speaker 2: you spoken a She like really upset and she was like, girl,

638
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:03,480
Speaker 2: it doesn't matter. Do you know what they an that's

639
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:05,960
Speaker 2: about to do on her page? You about to feel

640
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:09,640
Speaker 2: They about to find out who Kayla is and she

641
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:13,720
Speaker 2: gonna be on the white blogs now. That morning, she's like,

642
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 2: it is beyond the shade. They love how they get

643
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:22,400
Speaker 2: it from everywhere. Four days later, Kayla texts me, I

644
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 2: need to come to WTF. I need to record something

645
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:30,360
Speaker 2: because I need to get this out. And that was

646
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:33,480
Speaker 2: that little I don't know if it was maybe ten

647
00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:35,440
Speaker 2: minutes or six minutes or whatever she did where she

648
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 2: was like, dear black girl, do you remember that?

649
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:38,040
Speaker 3: Yeah?

650
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 2: It was up there calling her. Let me tell you something.

651
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:45,120
Speaker 2: I think about Beyoncen and I think about Kayla because

652
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:49,320
Speaker 2: Beyonce basically made the Becky with the good hair thing

653
00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:52,480
Speaker 2: and let us all know you could be Beyonce and

654
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:53,120
Speaker 2: get cheated on.

655
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:55,080
Speaker 1: And then Caylea makes.

656
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:57,920
Speaker 2: Me realize you could be the bad black girl a

657
00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:01,239
Speaker 2: line and they oh, gon tear your ass up.

658
00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:03,000
Speaker 1: What is there wrong to say about this girl?

659
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 3: Nothing?

660
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:06,640
Speaker 1: She's a cutie, she's college educated.

661
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 3: No, come on, but she's feeling what you're feeling too.

662
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 3: While at the same time she's learning this scale, there's

663
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:15,200
Speaker 3: a part of her that wishes that she didn't have

664
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:17,920
Speaker 3: to withstand the judgment that she shouldn't have to withstand.

665
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:20,400
Speaker 3: Neither should you. This is your choice, this is what

666
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 3: you love, this is your niche podcast brought you joy.

667
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:26,520
Speaker 3: It is a special place where you have created a

668
00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 3: culture for people to feel free. And that is a

669
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 3: special thing to do because everybody can't lead by example,

670
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:34,440
Speaker 3: and that's what you were able to do with your show.

671
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 3: You and may And in my mind, I'm all like,

672
00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:39,200
Speaker 3: don't lose that. I get we got to make our

673
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 3: buddy because this is what we got to do in

674
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 3: this crazy world. But don't lose that. And and and

675
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:47,920
Speaker 3: for Kila, don't lose that. Like yeah, I'm honey, you

676
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:51,040
Speaker 3: won the people who matter know you won the people.

677
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:55,640
Speaker 2: Tony Braxton told us she won on the traders. She

678
00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:59,640
Speaker 2: literally won figuratively, not I mean literally not figuratively on

679
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:02,200
Speaker 2: that damn show. And you know what, I just spoke

680
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:04,560
Speaker 2: about her a few days ago. I'm shooting in La.

681
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 2: One of the producers of the show was like, let

682
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 2: me hit Kayla. She ain't been horrible yet. And he

683
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:11,240
Speaker 2: was like, how many more clips can we take of

684
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 2: her talking about Travis? And I'm like, furst of all.

685
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 1: Oh boy, Kayla goes on a show. They're gonna ask her,

686
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:21,640
Speaker 1: do I give a shit? I actually would do everything

687
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:22,480
Speaker 1: not to talk about him.

688
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:27,760
Speaker 3: You're gonna dance around it? Yeah, okay, I'm all set.

689
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:30,920
Speaker 2: We're all set, Like, but I get why Kayla. And

690
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:33,240
Speaker 2: people will say in the comments, oh, here she go again.

691
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:35,880
Speaker 2: Do you think she she goes on a show and

692
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:37,320
Speaker 2: be like, let me tell you guys about my man.

693
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:40,040
Speaker 3: Of course, of course not. She's trying to take this

694
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 3: moment and move beyond it. And sorry, y'all, let Kim

695
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:44,440
Speaker 3: do it, y'all. Let Kim flip this sex tape with

696
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:48,320
Speaker 3: Ray Jay's ass. And and and now she's a billionaire,

697
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:50,520
Speaker 3: y'all buying all her clothes. Stop it, let her go by.

698
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:53,200
Speaker 3: Let let me see Cayla have a come up just

699
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:57,200
Speaker 3: like that. Yeah, And and I do think this is

700
00:33:57,600 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 3: a good question to ask you. The reason why we

701
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 3: talk about names. I came up with naked because I

702
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 3: wanted to people have people on who are completely honest.

703
00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:07,160
Speaker 3: There are only so few people who live in that space,

704
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:09,400
Speaker 3: and you live in that space. I think you should

705
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:11,600
Speaker 3: do a pod where you talk about it hurt your

706
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:15,160
Speaker 3: feelies because it's hard to be the first and what

707
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:19,800
Speaker 3: it comes with is a lot of expectations, responsibility, misunderstanding

708
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:24,160
Speaker 3: and judgment. And if people are judging you for what

709
00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:27,200
Speaker 3: you like to do in your bedroom, then that's on them.

710
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:30,360
Speaker 3: I didn't even get into your boyfriend. Y'all went on

711
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:32,799
Speaker 3: your fourth day? Was he into this world? How would

712
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:35,319
Speaker 3: y'all meet? I am so curious? But how cause how

713
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:37,280
Speaker 3: does one get a man and be like oh? Because

714
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:39,080
Speaker 3: if I in my mind I know a man would

715
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:43,240
Speaker 3: be like dope, I hit the Okay, I hit the lottery.

716
00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:45,560
Speaker 3: Yet she want to bring other girls. She don't mind

717
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 3: if we do this like we get. She don't care

718
00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:50,400
Speaker 3: how freaky we are. I've lot to like.

719
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 2: I would think, Carrie, here's the thing. It's the lottery

720
00:34:56,120 --> 00:35:02,480
Speaker 2: when they just want to fuck. But those men don't

721
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:08,120
Speaker 2: necessarily want to be with a woman that enjoy sex

722
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 2: with multiple people.

723
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:10,800
Speaker 1: That just is crazy.

724
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:13,680
Speaker 2: I remember the last person I had really been in

725
00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:18,440
Speaker 2: love with was a bartender. I hope he never hears this,

726
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:21,160
Speaker 2: but it was something that I was very in love

727
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:23,000
Speaker 2: with him. He was so smart, he was so cute,

728
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:25,880
Speaker 2: he was so great. He was We weren't compatible. But

729
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:30,799
Speaker 2: the moment I knew we weren't compatible, he was at

730
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:32,880
Speaker 2: work and talked about how these girls are flirting with

731
00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:36,160
Speaker 2: him and I was away in Mexico and I was like,

732
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:38,040
Speaker 2: you should have went on taste it.

733
00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:39,800
Speaker 1: And nigg called me and tell me what happened.

734
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:41,239
Speaker 2: And I was thinking I was being cute and he

735
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:44,239
Speaker 2: was like he didn't reply, and he called me on

736
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:45,840
Speaker 2: the way home and said, I don't like that.

737
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:46,920
Speaker 1: You always just want.

738
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 2: Me to like like like you treat me like this

739
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:51,399
Speaker 2: sexual thing, Like why would I want to do that?

740
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:52,960
Speaker 2: Like I want to be with you? And I was like,

741
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:55,080
Speaker 2: I know you want to be with me, Nigga, like

742
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:56,960
Speaker 2: you can't you tell me? I want to dig suck

743
00:35:57,040 --> 00:36:01,920
Speaker 2: going gone, Yeah, And then I wanted to have a

744
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 2: threesome with this little girl.

745
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:04,840
Speaker 1: I liked that. I thought I was cute.

746
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:06,399
Speaker 2: That was in town fool, and he was like, yo,

747
00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:09,600
Speaker 2: like you, desiring other people doesn't turn me on, and

748
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:12,239
Speaker 2: that is a version of love to him. I don't

749
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:13,799
Speaker 2: give a shit if my girl wants to bring a

750
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:15,840
Speaker 2: girl in the bedroom, she wants somebody else.

751
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:18,360
Speaker 1: Right, there's a thing called compersion.

752
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:19,680
Speaker 2: I don't know if you've ever heard this word, and

753
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 2: maybe a lifestyle sex people turn, but it's the joy

754
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:26,000
Speaker 2: in seeing other people happy.

755
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 1: Everybody felt compursion for me when I bought the house.

756
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:34,120
Speaker 2: Compersion is the joy of seeing a partner happy in

757
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 2: every way and it has no limit.

758
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:37,919
Speaker 3: Right.

759
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 1: I did not know when meeting my man that that

760
00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:45,160
Speaker 1: would happen. I think.

761
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 2: The first date I felt a sex, sexy energy or kinky,

762
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:52,120
Speaker 2: and then we talked a little bit on the second

763
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:55,279
Speaker 2: or third, or fourth. But the way that I knew

764
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:57,480
Speaker 2: there was real compatibility in it, because I've never really

765
00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:00,239
Speaker 2: met a man they didn't want to have threesome is

766
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:04,120
Speaker 2: when ooh, he always told me we got in an

767
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 2: argument the first time we went to the sex club. Right,

768
00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:10,399
Speaker 2: And this is advice for anyone listening. You may get

769
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 2: a little worked up in this episode and say fuck.

770
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:12,719
Speaker 1: It, let's try it out.

771
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 3: Let's try you never know.

772
00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:17,160
Speaker 2: So we went to this sex club and we didn't

773
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:20,399
Speaker 2: really have much talk about what our boundaries would be,

774
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:23,680
Speaker 2: what we would do, what would make us feel respected

775
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:25,960
Speaker 2: or not. I came out of the bathroom or a

776
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:28,680
Speaker 2: conversation with somebody and basically saw him talking to this girl.

777
00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 2: I felt like it was too long, and I left

778
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 2: and when he called me like where are you, blah blah,

779
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:37,400
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, you're not fucking right now, and he's like,

780
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 2: hold on, you think I'm coming to the sex club

781
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 2: for new pussy like I needed that bad. I came

782
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 2: to the sex club to experience something with you. I

783
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 2: don't need new pussy. I'm a grown ass man, Like,

784
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:54,640
Speaker 2: this is where my focus is. If I was talking

785
00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:56,719
Speaker 2: to someone or playing on that energy and you don't

786
00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:58,480
Speaker 2: want me to talk to someone while you're not around,

787
00:37:58,760 --> 00:37:59,879
Speaker 2: I would have respected that.

788
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:01,800
Speaker 1: You don't need to leave me. You don't need to

789
00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:02,600
Speaker 1: walk away from me.

790
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:05,200
Speaker 2: He's like, and even for you to go walk out

791
00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:07,880
Speaker 2: the door and think that you not being in a

792
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:09,920
Speaker 2: room would make me feel like I had this freedom

793
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:10,360
Speaker 2: to fuck.

794
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:13,640
Speaker 1: I don't need freedom like that. I want you. I

795
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:14,799
Speaker 1: want to have an experience with you.

796
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:18,280
Speaker 2: And I was like Okay, Wow, now we're in alignment

797
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:22,400
Speaker 2: because open relationships for a lot of people are women

798
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 2: being taken advantage of because men want to fuck multiple women.

799
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:26,400
Speaker 3: That's true.

800
00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:30,120
Speaker 1: I'm Polly, No you're not. You just got other hopes.

801
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:32,560
Speaker 3: No you're not.

802
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:35,080
Speaker 1: You probably amory.

803
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:38,360
Speaker 3: I saw it on the internet.

804
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:40,080
Speaker 1: I want to be on an open relationship. You know,

805
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:42,719
Speaker 1: I'll like this floor, but I'm gonna come home to you.

806
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:43,000
Speaker 1: I no.

807
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 2: And then the woman ends up getting into this thing

808
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:47,799
Speaker 2: because she feels like that's all she can do. She

809
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:50,360
Speaker 2: feels like that's men today. That's not okay to me.

810
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 2: I encourage monogamy because I don't think this lifestyle is

811
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:57,040
Speaker 2: for everybody. But that is the moment when I knew, like, Okay,

812
00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 2: we're into the same thing. Because I always felt like

813
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:02,080
Speaker 2: the desire that I had couldn't be shared with men

814
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:04,520
Speaker 2: because they would just label me with a scarlet a.

815
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:08,160
Speaker 3: Or the way I'm hearing that story, you can tell

816
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 3: me if it's wrong. I heard. I really care about

817
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:12,479
Speaker 3: this dude, and he's trying to connect with this woman

818
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:15,239
Speaker 3: on a level that I don't like. If you see

819
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:18,280
Speaker 3: him talking to someone talking is a whole different vibe,

820
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:20,480
Speaker 3: Like if you can give my mind. It's a wrap.

821
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:21,480
Speaker 3: You got everything else?

822
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:25,319
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, right, what happened in that moment? Actually, if

823
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:30,960
Speaker 2: I could walk back to the feeling I thought, I

824
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:32,880
Speaker 2: actually to this day, don't care if he's talking to

825
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:35,520
Speaker 2: a woman without me. I just thought he wanted to

826
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:39,719
Speaker 2: do something separate from me. Oh so I thought, oh,

827
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:43,440
Speaker 2: he's gonna have do something to hot me. Oh like today,

828
00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:45,840
Speaker 2: if I come back and my man is even smiling

829
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:47,480
Speaker 2: and talking to a woman, it's.

830
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:47,879
Speaker 3: A different thing.

831
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 1: Like you think, I'm thinking about to give him and

832
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 1: leave me.

833
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 3: Now, what advice before I let you go? What advice

834
00:39:55,640 --> 00:40:01,400
Speaker 3: would you give two women who I believe don't understand

835
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:05,600
Speaker 3: their sexual freedom or are comfortable with their sexuality, or

836
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:11,360
Speaker 3: comfortable with desiring sex the same way a man desires sex.

837
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:14,759
Speaker 1: I'm about to get dark a little bit.

838
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:15,640
Speaker 3: That's okay.

839
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:22,040
Speaker 1: I have a friend who's sick and she is married.

840
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:24,719
Speaker 1: We got drunk. She's not even supposed to be drinking.

841
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:29,480
Speaker 1: Durank came o. But uh, she said to me, why

842
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:31,920
Speaker 1: did I never teach him how to eat my plussa weezy?

843
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:36,040
Speaker 1: And I said, what do you mean? You married like

844
00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:39,040
Speaker 1: twelve years? You ain't never told him it wasn't good.

845
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:40,840
Speaker 1: She's like, I just wanted him to be happy. You know,

846
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:43,239
Speaker 1: I'm happy in my life. We got the kids, like,

847
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:45,000
Speaker 1: I'm just happy what I'm about to do get some

848
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:50,560
Speaker 1: new dick. And I'm like, girl, no, you tell him

849
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:53,319
Speaker 1: what you like. You're telling me it's been uncomfortable and

850
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:57,920
Speaker 1: weird this whole time. And where my advice? You asking

851
00:40:57,960 --> 00:40:59,719
Speaker 1: me this question may have been different six months ago.

852
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:02,600
Speaker 1: Me in this experience with her has been lingering with me, Carrie,

853
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:05,120
Speaker 1: because I'm just like, don't make this clip, by the way,

854
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:06,720
Speaker 1: because I don't want her to relive this moment.

855
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:09,440
Speaker 2: But let's let this sit with your listeners, GP will

856
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:12,400
Speaker 2: do I say, that's.

857
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:12,840
Speaker 3: The only time.

858
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:18,520
Speaker 2: This is someone that's in their forties that's going to

859
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:19,720
Speaker 2: leave this earth when.

860
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:21,920
Speaker 1: Never having an orgasm in that way with her husband.

861
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:25,680
Speaker 2: Oh and I and I literally said to her, bit

862
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:28,480
Speaker 2: you guys say it tonight, and she's like no, She's like,

863
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:30,440
Speaker 2: I would rather die with him thinking he fucked the

864
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:31,040
Speaker 2: shit out of me.

865
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:33,240
Speaker 1: And we laughed together about that moment.

866
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:34,280
Speaker 3: But I wouldn't.

867
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:38,400
Speaker 1: I think we are all too young. We could say.

868
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:40,919
Speaker 2: Sixties old, we could say whatever's old, but when they die,

869
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:44,520
Speaker 2: we say they died too young. I really don't think

870
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:47,359
Speaker 2: we're living for ourselves. I think we're living to make

871
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:50,000
Speaker 2: things not awkward. Sometimes. Can't tell you how many times

872
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:51,640
Speaker 2: I work with somebody I don't like and I never

873
00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:53,440
Speaker 2: tell them to their face, or they do something I

874
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 2: don't like and I just talk shit with my homegirls.

875
00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:58,840
Speaker 2: Sexuality is the most intimate personal thing in the world.

876
00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:02,920
Speaker 2: So it's like, if you aren't exploring your kinks, the

877
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 2: things you like telling someone, leaving the open and open

878
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:09,680
Speaker 2: door for it. I would say this in a more

879
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:11,920
Speaker 2: direct way for those of you in a relationship. If

880
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:14,279
Speaker 2: you're not all the way pleased and you don't know

881
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:16,200
Speaker 2: how to spice it up, and there's a particular thing

882
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:18,239
Speaker 2: you want, the easiest advice, you got to send it

883
00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:20,400
Speaker 2: in a link to a porn That's what you gotta do.

884
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:22,120
Speaker 1: You got to be like, ooh, this looks crazy, this

885
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:22,680
Speaker 1: looks fun.

886
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:25,160
Speaker 2: You got to grab a hotel first daycation, and for

887
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:27,359
Speaker 2: some reason everybody gets turns up like that.

888
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:29,400
Speaker 1: Whatever it'll cost, if.

889
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 2: You can get a rope one hundred dollars, whatever you do,

890
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:33,640
Speaker 2: just get it out of the house. For some reason,

891
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:36,759
Speaker 2: that really helps people with breaking those intibitions down.

892
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:40,960
Speaker 1: For single people, I would say this, ladies, if you're

893
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:43,239
Speaker 1: looking to meet your husband, and you're looking to meet

894
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:49,160
Speaker 1: the most amazing person wife whoever, you can still enjoy yourself.

895
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:52,240
Speaker 1: You could still have fun. You are not giving nothing

896
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:54,320
Speaker 1: up just because you chose to have sex with someone.

897
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:56,799
Speaker 1: You gotta stop looking at this like I'm not gonna

898
00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:59,120
Speaker 1: give him that. He don't deserve it. You deserve sex.

899
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:02,880
Speaker 2: All of the people in my life that be acting

900
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:05,000
Speaker 2: like that, I'd be like, you ain't had dickey in

901
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:06,960
Speaker 2: like months, but you're saying he don't deserve it, But

902
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:08,640
Speaker 2: you also need to get so what you're gonna do

903
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:12,440
Speaker 2: as long as you're safe, not hurting yourself or compromising

904
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:15,759
Speaker 2: other people? Why are we so worried about that? Why

905
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:18,200
Speaker 2: do we leave? Why is it a walker Shane? Why

906
00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:19,840
Speaker 2: do we leave a nigga house and feel bad?

907
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:24,040
Speaker 1: And I used to do it too.

908
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:27,640
Speaker 2: The only time you should feel bad is outfit, but

909
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:30,279
Speaker 2: you should be enjoying it.

910
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:33,719
Speaker 1: And if you don't have a whole friend, less than a.

911
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:37,960
Speaker 2: Horrible decisions because I would celebrate your whole shit, But like,

912
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:38,880
Speaker 2: why you do that?

913
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:40,319
Speaker 1: Dum?

914
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:44,480
Speaker 2: And I hate that it took my friend with cancer.

915
00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:46,440
Speaker 2: Now I'm out to call her. I told her, I said, Yo,

916
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:48,800
Speaker 2: I'm letting you know, bitch, you about to be my excuse?

917
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:53,040
Speaker 1: And she was like, oh my god, Hey, you ain't

918
00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:55,680
Speaker 1: dying today. Are you gonna be my excuse today? And

919
00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:56,759
Speaker 1: in it till the end.

920
00:43:57,520 --> 00:43:59,480
Speaker 2: And I'm telling you, it really has been teaching me

921
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 2: a lot. Like to watch someone young in reflection and

922
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 2: sex is something they reflect on is just very pivotal

923
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:08,239
Speaker 2: for me.

924
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 3: Amen, Amen, uh follow weezy? How do they follow you

925
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:13,960
Speaker 3: on all your socials? I know we I'm gonna talk

926
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:16,000
Speaker 3: about trap house because y'all want to do get You

927
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:17,520
Speaker 3: got to do pilates. You can do it in La.

928
00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:20,600
Speaker 3: Do you have trap house in La? Didn't make it

929
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:22,399
Speaker 3: in New York? Okay, you have it in New York

930
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:25,239
Speaker 3: Lower East Side? People swear by. You didn't even know

931
00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:26,880
Speaker 3: My makeup artists went and she was telling me. She

932
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:30,920
Speaker 3: was like, it was the best experience you ever had. Wtf, media,

933
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:33,279
Speaker 3: you can you can. She's the entrepreneur. This is the

934
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:36,239
Speaker 3: entrepreneur side. You can rent out all of her spaces.

935
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:38,840
Speaker 3: You guys did a white psych I think that's dope.

936
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:41,040
Speaker 2: Do you want to make a podcast if you want

937
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:43,480
Speaker 2: to just do little TikTok clips. I have podcast studios

938
00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:46,280
Speaker 2: in New York and La trap House is plate studio

939
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:48,640
Speaker 2: that plays trap and house music. Those are my two favorites.

940
00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:50,759
Speaker 2: See that's the little alternative Black Girl. It's like I

941
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:53,719
Speaker 2: want to see future and then I need to see

942
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:54,400
Speaker 2: a Calvin Hairs.

943
00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:54,759
Speaker 1: I don't know.

944
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:56,880
Speaker 3: You can have all the things you can't you you

945
00:44:56,920 --> 00:44:59,600
Speaker 3: can live in so many spaces freely, and you are

946
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:02,120
Speaker 3: a living example of that. It's Women's History Month. We

947
00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:03,680
Speaker 3: have to shout out to the women's Are we not

948
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:04,759
Speaker 3: giving love to the women?

949
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:05,880
Speaker 1: Need to?

950
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:08,040
Speaker 3: I love you so much, Thank you. I know you

951
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:11,000
Speaker 3: got to run and that story stuck with me. I'm

952
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:14,080
Speaker 3: sure you're liberating some folks. Decisions decisions, y'all and Black

953
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:16,000
Speaker 3: in Fact Network, but make sure y'all follow her or

954
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:17,799
Speaker 3: do the paywall horrible decisions right?

955
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:20,120
Speaker 1: Five bucks a month and you get all the dirty stuff.

956
00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:21,680
Speaker 2: That episode I talked about, by the way, with the

957
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:24,520
Speaker 2: man on the floor, I'm put that on decision decisions.

958
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:26,600
Speaker 3: But this week I said, have to need to remember

959
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:28,600
Speaker 3: the people that need to remember what you do just

960
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:30,799
Speaker 3: a little bit, so you know.

961
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:33,800
Speaker 1: Just to carry if you ever want to have a seat.

962
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:36,440
Speaker 3: Oh you know, I do. You know I do. I

963
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:38,480
Speaker 3: was waiting for you to invite me. I was waiting.

964
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:41,440
Speaker 3: I have lots of stories. I have lots of stories.

965
00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:43,000
Speaker 3: I like to share a story or two.

966
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:47,120
Speaker 2: I want to talk about how I want to talk

967
00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:48,720
Speaker 2: about what it's like to be a woman in media

968
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:49,960
Speaker 2: and how these men be treating you.

969
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:54,280
Speaker 3: Actually, girl, you just said something that I thought was really interesting.

970
00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:57,040
Speaker 3: You said we were not living to be free. We'relieving

971
00:45:57,120 --> 00:45:59,400
Speaker 3: to We're living to be not awkward or not have

972
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:01,719
Speaker 3: awkward moment. And I get that's that's gonna be the

973
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 3: name of the whole pod. I can tell you all

974
00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:05,560
Speaker 3: my awkward moments that I was living through. Not anymore,

975
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:08,160
Speaker 3: you know what I mean? Yeah, I mean I still

976
00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:10,920
Speaker 3: do it. I still have that same issue at CNN.

977
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:14,279
Speaker 3: I really do not no front. But sometimes it's just

978
00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:17,280
Speaker 3: is it worth it? Like I usually take that approach.

979
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:20,239
Speaker 3: Now it's like is it worth it? I'll leave that there,

980
00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:23,920
Speaker 3: you know. Or I handle people differently because it doesn't

981
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:26,799
Speaker 3: affect me emotionally because I'm so sturdy in who I

982
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:28,399
Speaker 3: am now. But it took a while to get here.

983
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:29,880
Speaker 1: That's it. It's like, if I know it's not going

984
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:32,160
Speaker 1: to bother me, I won't bring it up now, Like

985
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:35,080
Speaker 1: that's what it is. So the moral of the story is,

986
00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:37,319
Speaker 1: tell everybody how to eat your coouci my friend wants to.

987
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:44,399
Speaker 3: At the end of the day, make it easy everybody. Well,

988
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:47,080
Speaker 3: that's the more of a story, right, make sure somebody

989
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:50,319
Speaker 3: is pleasuring you before you leave this place. Geez, that

990
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:53,920
Speaker 3: was heavy but true. Having said that, I want you

991
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:58,200
Speaker 3: guys to don't forget download subscribe to my podcast and

992
00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:02,440
Speaker 3: my new latest part with Jamel Hill is called Flavored

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Speaker 3: and Funny, and it is so hilarious. We live in

994
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Speaker 3: a space where we talk a little bit about our

995
00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:08,279
Speaker 3: personal lives. If I'm not gonna lie a lot of

996
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:10,800
Speaker 3: bit about our personal lives, I'm not out here giving

997
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:14,319
Speaker 3: you decisionous decisions type information. But it is really a

998
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Speaker 3: breath of fresh air to do something with someone who

999
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:18,799
Speaker 3: has been my friend for so long and who's really

1000
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Speaker 3: truly my friend, like a really good friend. It doesn't

1001
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Speaker 3: make it feel like I'm going to work. It makes

1002
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:26,120
Speaker 3: it feel like I'm having a conversation about life, getting

1003
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Speaker 3: some therapy but also educating at the same time. I

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Speaker 3: hope you'll enjoy it because it is a blast watch

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Speaker 3: on YouTube because you can see the faces of the

1006
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Speaker 3: movement and how can we be and stuff. Thank y'all

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Speaker 3: for listening to Naked Sports. Shout out to everyone who

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Speaker 3: made this podcast possible. To quease my producer right now,

1009
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Speaker 3: Thank you so much, my friend. We'll see y'all next week.

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Speaker 3: Naked Sports written and executive produced by me Carrie Champion,

1011
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