1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:03,239 Speaker 1: This is Bloomberg Business of Sports. 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 2: Business of sports can be intimidating for hard for a 3 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:07,200 Speaker 2: start to break into. 4 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:10,280 Speaker 3: We really appreciate when our owners are actually there, you know, 5 00:00:10,360 --> 00:00:11,880 Speaker 3: with us through the journey. 6 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:15,159 Speaker 4: Teams ours especially then very intentional to diversify at all 7 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:16,239 Speaker 4: levels of the company. 8 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:19,320 Speaker 5: Maybe win the golden years for the NFL and college football. 9 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:23,000 Speaker 6: Our demographic reach has continued to explode. This is going 10 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:27,160 Speaker 6: to be really unlocking the streaming platform for sports fans. 11 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 1: Sports evaluations are rising. 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Will we 17 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:45,559 Speaker 9: explored the big money issues in the world of sports. 18 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:48,559 Speaker 10: Michael baarn I'm Scarlett Fool and Time damiansas out Oh 19 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:49,960 Speaker 10: the band is backed. 20 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 9: Coming up on the show today, we talk with Basketball 21 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 9: Hall of Famer, three time WNBA MVP and four time 22 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 9: w NBA Champion Shryl Swoops. 23 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:07,399 Speaker 3: Sports gave me so many opportunities, obviously while I was 24 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:09,960 Speaker 3: playing it on the court, but since I retired and 25 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 3: the things that are important to me and passionate that 26 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:16,399 Speaker 3: I'm passionate about off the court. Sports gave me that 27 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 3: platform to be able to have a voice. 28 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:23,120 Speaker 9: Troops is also very involved in health advocacy, especially for 29 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:27,479 Speaker 9: breast cancer screening services through a partnership from Radnet, an 30 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 9: outpatient imaging services company. Plus we'll hear from one of 31 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 9: the greatest hockey players of all time, guess who? Guess 32 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 9: you guess who? Mark Messier and all that and more. 33 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 9: Straight ahead on the Bloomberg Business of Sports. But first, 34 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 9: the NBA is closing in on a huge and I 35 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 9: mean huge media rights deal with NBCESPN and Amazon. We 36 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 9: welcome Bloomberg News Global Business of Sports reporter Ira Woodway 37 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 9: to help us break it down. Ira, welcome, old friend 38 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 9: of the Bloomberg Business of Sports. 39 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:07,559 Speaker 2: How's it going? 40 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:11,680 Speaker 9: Yeah, Well, my first thought, I gotta admit I feel 41 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:16,640 Speaker 9: sorry for TNT because they're out and it's too bad 42 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:20,079 Speaker 9: because I'm just wondering what's going to happen now with 43 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 9: Chuck and Shaq and Ernie. What's going to happen to that? 44 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 9: I love that show. 45 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 2: Well, so it's not guaranteed that that they're out right, 46 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 2: because there's no rule that says the league couldn't add 47 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 2: a package. You know, they can do as many or 48 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 2: as few as they want, but it does look like 49 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:43,960 Speaker 2: they may be on the outs. They're not, you know, 50 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 2: in our reporting and in the reporting of others, it 51 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 2: doesn't look like Warner Slash TNT is going to be 52 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 2: in the mix this time. But you know, none of 53 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 2: these things are final, and we still may be weeks 54 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:57,920 Speaker 2: away from knowing for sure. 55 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:00,920 Speaker 4: But right now it looks like it's going to be 56 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:05,079 Speaker 4: NBC Comcast, which of course owns NBC, and Amazon as 57 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 4: the main partners here. And I'm wondering if in ESPN, yes, 58 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:12,240 Speaker 4: of course, which is owned by Disney, And I'm wondering 59 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 4: if that is as much Warner Brothers Discoveries fault, meaning 60 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 4: it just didn't have the financial resources to go in 61 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:22,640 Speaker 4: there and make a strong bid, or was this a 62 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:26,799 Speaker 4: case of Comcast being very, very opportunistic, you. 63 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:28,960 Speaker 2: Know, I think it's a few things. I think one 64 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 2: big difference maker for Comcast is that they have a 65 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 2: broadcast network, so they have NBC. Warner does not have 66 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 2: a broadcast network, And the future of sports broadcasting more 67 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 2: and more of sports media more and more looks like 68 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 2: a return to broadcast networks as the cable bundle continues 69 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 2: to atrophy. So there's both movement towards streaming and movement 70 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 2: back toward broadcast antenna free TV, and Warner is not 71 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 2: great at the streaming yet. I think the NBA looks 72 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 2: at Max as a kind of muddled sports product. They 73 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 2: have that add on Bleacher Report service that you have 74 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 2: to do and on top of Max in order to 75 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 2: get their sports content. Not a very good pure play 76 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 2: sports streaming option. No broadcast network, So really they are 77 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 2: they are about their cable channels, TNT, you know, where 78 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:17,800 Speaker 2: they put the NBA games, and TBS where they put 79 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 2: a lot other sports. So that looks less attractive to 80 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 2: the NBA as a way to distribute its games. Even 81 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 2: though they have this you know, great studio show that 82 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:30,160 Speaker 2: we've out with Chuck and Jack and Ernie and Kenny, 83 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:33,039 Speaker 2: you know, that would potentially go away, and that is 84 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 2: a selling point. They don't have the kind of distribution 85 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 2: that I think the NBA wants. And then there is 86 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 2: they just don't have the balance sheet of Amazon, Disney 87 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 2: or Comcast. So when you're talking about paying to and 88 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 2: a half billion dollars a year, you know, which is 89 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:51,599 Speaker 2: what they would have to do to match Comcast's offer, 90 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 2: which they have a right to do. They that's that's 91 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 2: harder for them to do. And then the league can 92 00:04:57,080 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 2: still say, you know what, your two and a half 93 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 2: billion is not worth as much as comcast two and 94 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:04,240 Speaker 2: a half billion because it has better distribution than you do. 95 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:06,280 Speaker 10: All right, let's get let's get into the numbers of 96 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:07,560 Speaker 10: bit IRA. I just want to break it down for 97 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:09,839 Speaker 10: our audience here. Seventy six billion over eleven years is 98 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:11,839 Speaker 10: what we're talking about here. It looks like NBC's at 99 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:14,039 Speaker 10: two and a half billion year, Amazon at one point 100 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 10: eight billion year, and Disney at two point six billion 101 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 10: dollars a year. These deals go into effect after the 102 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 10: twenty four to twenty five season. And correct me if 103 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 10: I'm wrong, But this also includes the WNBA, does it not? 104 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:30,680 Speaker 2: That is not entirely clear, but from what we understand, 105 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 2: the Amazon, so Amazon already has WNBA games and would 106 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 2: be adding to that inventory through this deal with the NBA. 107 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 2: And ESPN also already has WNBA games and would be 108 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 2: re upping potentially on that in this deal. But then 109 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:49,359 Speaker 2: there's other chunks of WNBA inventory that would still be 110 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:52,920 Speaker 2: up for grabs so how much is included here and 111 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:55,599 Speaker 2: it even whether it is is not totally clear. We've 112 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 2: been told that the WNBA is in the Amazon and 113 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 2: ESPN deals and that it's it represents a significant increase 114 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:04,239 Speaker 2: in what they were getting before. 115 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:07,800 Speaker 10: Well, you're going, you're going there, I right, That's exactly 116 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:08,600 Speaker 10: what I want to know. 117 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 11: Are they breaking out how much of that for the 118 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:12,040 Speaker 11: players Association? 119 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:12,280 Speaker 9: Right? 120 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 11: For future contracts? 121 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 9: Right? 122 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:15,720 Speaker 10: I mean are they breaking out how much of that 123 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 10: deal goes to the women's as opposed to the. 124 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 2: Men's I think there has to be some uh, you 125 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 2: know writing of that number. Yeah, because again, you're right, 126 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:25,359 Speaker 2: that would be how you would look at revenue for 127 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:27,559 Speaker 2: the w NBA would be, you know, the biggest piece 128 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 2: of their national revenue would be media rites and that 129 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 2: is baked into the collective burying agreement with the players. 130 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 2: Is you know how how the league does affects their 131 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:41,600 Speaker 2: pay so they have to, yes, say what what they're 132 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 2: paying for that piece in these deals? 133 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:46,279 Speaker 10: I mean, Michael bar that is the missing number that 134 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 10: I want to sink my teeth into. 135 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:49,360 Speaker 11: You know, I'd really like. 136 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 10: To know, you know how these how NBC, how ESPN? 137 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 10: How are we valuing women's sports today. 138 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:58,919 Speaker 9: Oh, I think that's going to be way more valuable, 139 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:00,840 Speaker 9: especially with Caitlin. 140 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 11: Clark legacy of so much to talk about. 141 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:08,840 Speaker 9: Yeah, it's I know, later on we're going to talk 142 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 9: about the hard files that Caitlin Clark's getting. So you've 143 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 9: got your prize product out there, but that's we're going 144 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 9: to save that for later on because there are two 145 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:22,240 Speaker 9: other topics, especially in baseball. I'm going to file this 146 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 9: under what in the hell were you guys thinking? Department? 147 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 9: And I'm going to start now. And this guy, he 148 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 9: had a decent career, but now a lifetime ban betting 149 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 9: on baseball. Tukupeta, Mark Hanna. Yeah, and I don't understand 150 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 9: why you would bet on baseball in your own sport. 151 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 9: Let me put it this way. We have a rule 152 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 9: here at Bloomberg we can't do any day trading. So 153 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 9: you know what happens. We don't do any damn day trading. 154 00:07:57,400 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 9: So why in the world do people still do? You know? 155 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 8: It is? 156 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 2: It's sad in a way you look at this. So 157 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 2: there were five players, two major leaguers, three minor leaguers 158 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 2: who got hit with different levels of suspensions, and Marcano 159 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 2: was the one who was banned for life because he 160 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 2: was betting on Pirates games while he was on the 161 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 2: Pittsburgh Pirates rostering though he was recovering from injury didn't 162 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 2: play in those games. So the rule basically is, if 163 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 2: you're betting on games that you're involved in, you're out, 164 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 2: and if you bet on baseball at all but not games, 165 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:29,200 Speaker 2: you're in. 166 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 1: It's a year. 167 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 2: And so you know, the fact that this is happening 168 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 2: and happening with legal sportsbooks suggests that either the outreach 169 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:44,959 Speaker 2: by the league, the education efforts are not working, or yeah, it's. 170 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:48,079 Speaker 11: Just a gambling as a disease. I mean real mean, I. 171 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:50,559 Speaker 2: Mean there's addiction, for sure. I mean, but you look 172 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 2: at the A's pitcher Michael Kelly, who was suspended for 173 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 2: a year. He bet less than one hundred dollars on baseball. 174 00:08:57,360 --> 00:09:00,160 Speaker 2: So that suggests that you know, I mean, who at 175 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:03,319 Speaker 2: least that they were aware of and that they are 176 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:06,439 Speaker 2: punishing him for, you know, the bets that they tracked 177 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 2: on baseball less than one hundred bucks. So that doesn't 178 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:12,959 Speaker 2: seem like, you know, an out of control gambling habit. 179 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:16,839 Speaker 2: It just seems like a failure to understand the rules. 180 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:19,360 Speaker 2: Which is hard to understand because Rule twenty one is 181 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:24,319 Speaker 2: a famous piece of baseball. You know, it's on the clubhouse, 182 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 2: it has to be posted. Club goes back to Pete Road, 183 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 2: so you would think that players would know. And then 184 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 2: you kind of have to wonder too, is this a 185 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:37,560 Speaker 2: case of better monitoring? Is just we're learning about more 186 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:40,679 Speaker 2: of these cases go uncaught, you know, which is what 187 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 2: the league said when they started to embrace sports betting. 188 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 2: Is that bring into light, making it regulated, actually allows 189 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:49,400 Speaker 2: us to monitor it better. And so you could see that, Okay, 190 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 2: maybe that's working, but the education piece seems to not 191 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 2: be working when you get cases like this. 192 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:56,440 Speaker 4: And these are instances where it's legal betting, right, I 193 00:09:56,440 --> 00:09:58,720 Speaker 4: mean there's plenty of illegal betting, which we're not even 194 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 4: getting into here. And of course this comes as all 195 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:06,440 Speaker 4: the leagues embrace partnerships and relationships business relationships with these 196 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 4: sports betting companies, whether it's Fan Duel, whether it's Caesars, 197 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 4: you name it, MGM, Grand that's another draftings, right, So 198 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 4: it's in your face, it's in the players faces certainly constantly. 199 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:22,560 Speaker 4: There are shows built around it, right, there's programming devoted 200 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 4: to it, and the players are somehow supposed to ignore 201 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:30,960 Speaker 4: the fact that they are pieces of data for a 202 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 4: betting public, but not be participating it in it or 203 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:36,679 Speaker 4: addressing it in any way. 204 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it is tricky. You see, We've seen 205 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:42,199 Speaker 2: it across every league. So the NFL's had players suspended 206 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:46,080 Speaker 2: for betting on team property. Right in the NFL. If 207 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:48,840 Speaker 2: you're betting on any sport while you're at an NFL facility, 208 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 2: that's against the rules. And then we've seen players CJ. Moore, 209 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 2: who just resigned with the Lions without for a year 210 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 2: for betting on football. And in all of those cases, 211 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 2: you're talking about betting with regulated books. You know, these 212 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:05,720 Speaker 2: are bets that would be fine if it weren't for 213 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 2: the fact that these players play those sports. And in 214 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 2: all of those cases, there's no indication of any kind 215 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 2: of manipulation in that the players were throwing games or 216 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 2: otherwise underperforming. We have seen in the NBA Johntay Porter 217 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:23,720 Speaker 2: of the Raptors, was, you know, allegedly manipulated game. He 218 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:26,839 Speaker 2: had put wrecked up some really big betting debts and 219 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 2: as a way to pay those off, according to allegations 220 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 2: that are now coming out. 221 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 11: He was injuring himself during the games. 222 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:33,840 Speaker 8: He was taking himself, he was leaving, Yeah, he was. 223 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 2: He was removing himself from games early, claiming illness and 224 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 2: alerting his partners ahead of times, co conspirators, and they 225 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:43,840 Speaker 2: you know, one case, a guy won forty thousand dollars 226 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 2: on a parlay that involved quarters stats. So that is 227 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 2: where the leagues I think have a real problem because 228 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 2: that damages public confidence. So all of these cases, I 229 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 2: think make create a cloud of suspicion. And then when 230 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:02,240 Speaker 2: you have cases where there is in fact somebody not 231 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:05,440 Speaker 2: performing to their utmost right, then you lose confidence in 232 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 2: the product. And that has always been what the Weeks 233 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:10,960 Speaker 2: said they were afraid of with betting. Now they've embraced it, 234 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 2: they're making revenue from it. It's a big area of 235 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 2: growth for them, but they're facing this consequence of Yeah, 236 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 2: you know, sometimes the players, whether it's happening more or 237 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:25,600 Speaker 2: just seems to be happening more. I think fans, you know, 238 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:28,400 Speaker 2: are can have a right to be suspicious sometimes. 239 00:12:28,679 --> 00:12:31,680 Speaker 9: Ira Bodway, you are the man. Bloomberg News Global Business 240 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 9: of Sports reporter. Thank you Sarah for talking about us. 241 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:35,679 Speaker 9: We really do appreciate it. 242 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 2: Thank you. 243 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 9: Up next, we hear from six times Stanley Cup champion 244 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:44,680 Speaker 9: Mark Messier. You're listening to the Bloomberg Business of Sports 245 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:47,040 Speaker 9: Bloomberg Radio. Around the world. 246 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 1: You're listening to Bloomberg Business of Sports from Bloomberg Radio. 247 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 9: This is the Bloomberg Business of Sports show. But we 248 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 9: explore the big money issues in the world of sports. 249 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 9: I'm Michael Barr, along with Scarlett fu and Damian Sas 250 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 9: hour on the way, we'll hear a conversation with a 251 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:14,840 Speaker 9: monumental sports and entertainment chairman and CEO, Ted Leoneses. But 252 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 9: first we listen in on a conversation with all time 253 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 9: hockey great, six times Stanley Cup champion Mark Messier. He 254 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 9: spoke with our colleagues Tom Keane and Paul Sweeney. I 255 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 9: know them earlier this week on Bloomberg Radio. Let's listen 256 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 9: in on their conversation. 257 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 8: Mark. 258 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:34,679 Speaker 12: I could do a three hour conversation with you in 259 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:38,200 Speaker 12: honor of Geela floor in his criticism of hockey. But 260 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 12: let's set up right now. The Florida Panthers against your sacrilege. 261 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:46,840 Speaker 12: To those of you that are Rangers fans, Mark Messier's 262 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:50,080 Speaker 12: Edmonton Oilers, who are you going to be rooting for Mark. 263 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:53,959 Speaker 5: Well, you know, I've said all along, all year long. 264 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:56,480 Speaker 5: I love the way that Florida Panthers play. They're probably 265 00:13:56,480 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 5: one of my favorite teams to watch. But unfortunately they're 266 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:01,720 Speaker 5: playing against a team that I spent a lot of 267 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:03,439 Speaker 5: years with, had a lot of success with some of 268 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 5: the greatest players in the world there so, and I 269 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:08,440 Speaker 5: still know so many people back in my hometown of Edmonton, 270 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:11,480 Speaker 5: so I'm gonna have to stick with Edmonton in this one. 271 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 12: When you look at hockey today, and it's something that 272 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 12: Paul Sweeney and Rvis Truman are much more up on. 273 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:18,960 Speaker 1: Than I am. 274 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 12: To me, it's a radically different game than the controlled 275 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 12: aggression that you've played. Are you bored with a modern game? 276 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:29,800 Speaker 8: Well, I'm not actually. 277 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 5: In fact, we always speak about this all the time, 278 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 5: and it's still a tough game. And you can see 279 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 5: the teams that go on to win the Stanley Cup. 280 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 5: The grueling six months in the regular season. You're basically 281 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 5: playing four and a half games a week for over 282 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 5: six months with travel, and then you've got to go 283 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 5: through two months of the playoffs and eliminate three other 284 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:54,480 Speaker 5: teams in order to do that, or four teams in 285 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:57,560 Speaker 5: order to do that. So the game is tough in 286 00:14:57,640 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 5: many ways. Of course, they've changed the rules, in my opinion, 287 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:02,560 Speaker 5: for the betterment of the game. I think it's opened 288 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:04,520 Speaker 5: up the skill, it's opened up the speed of the game. 289 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 5: But as you've seen in these playoffs, in order to score, 290 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 5: you still got to get into those tough areas and 291 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:11,000 Speaker 5: you've got to be willing to stay there once you 292 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:12,880 Speaker 5: get there, and it's not comfortable to. 293 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 8: Go there, right. 294 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 5: So I think that overall the game is still an 295 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 5: incredibly tough game. It's a dangerous game, but that's one 296 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:21,880 Speaker 5: of the things that makes it so exciting. 297 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 7: Hey, Mark, as a Rangers fan, thank you for delivering 298 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 7: the cup here to Ranger fans here. And I know 299 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 7: you won't buy a drink or a meal in the 300 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 7: city ever again. Talk to us, talk to us about 301 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:34,280 Speaker 7: the Rangers this year. 302 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 9: I mean, a. 303 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:38,440 Speaker 7: Great season, some great players that I know, the city 304 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 7: rallied around, but they did not really get it done 305 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 7: in the postseason. Is this a team that needs to 306 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:47,360 Speaker 7: be broken up? What can it be built upon? 307 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 5: Well, it's hard to say the team should be broken up, 308 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 5: but I have to say, you know, they said all 309 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 5: kinds of franchise. 310 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 8: Records this year. They had a tremendous regular season. 311 00:15:56,320 --> 00:15:58,840 Speaker 5: They seem to be really a tight knit team, which 312 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 5: is a crucial point of winning a Stanley Cup. So 313 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:03,840 Speaker 5: they got a lot of things to be positive about. 314 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 5: You know, you can't throw it all down the journey 315 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 5: because you lost to an incredibly strong Panther team. There 316 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 5: were some areas in the game that will probably need 317 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 5: to be addressed, and I'm sure the management will do that. 318 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 5: But overall, of course, you can't say it's a great 319 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:21,720 Speaker 5: success if you don't win the Stanley Cup. But I 320 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 5: think there's a lot of things that you can really 321 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:27,560 Speaker 5: be positive about this team. And you know, the reality 322 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 5: is that only one team is going to go away 323 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:31,200 Speaker 5: happy this year, and that's a team that wins the 324 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 5: Stanley Cup. And you know, the regular season is one thing, 325 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:36,880 Speaker 5: and as we've seen during the regular season and then 326 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 5: the playoffs, it's a different game. 327 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 8: It's a different mindset in order to be successful. 328 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:43,960 Speaker 5: And if you're a good player and you're a player 329 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 5: that's you know, relied on to score, the other team's 330 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:49,880 Speaker 5: job is not to allow you to do that, and 331 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:51,800 Speaker 5: so you have to be able to be adapt and 332 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 5: change your game in playoffs when teams are focusing on 333 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:59,000 Speaker 5: you individually to not allow you to get to your 334 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 5: game that has made you successful, and the good players 335 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:05,239 Speaker 5: find a way. And you also have to remember that 336 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:07,400 Speaker 5: you know, even though that we have some of our 337 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 5: players on the Rangers team, they don't have a tremendous 338 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 5: amount of playoff experience. Yep, they're getting it, but you know, 339 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 5: playoff experience matters when it gets down to the nook 340 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:20,680 Speaker 5: and cranny like it did in the conference finals this 341 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 5: year against a team that played incredibly stringent defense and 342 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:25,240 Speaker 5: put a lot of pressure on the team. 343 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:28,639 Speaker 12: Mark, you will always be thirty two. But the truth 344 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:32,000 Speaker 12: is some people retire and they check out. You did 345 00:17:32,040 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 12: not tell us about the Mark Messier Foundation last time 346 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 12: I talked to you. You're trying to build three or 347 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:42,240 Speaker 12: five or twelve ice rinks in northern Manhattan. Tell us 348 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:45,560 Speaker 12: about answer the call and what you're doing with first responders. 349 00:17:46,760 --> 00:17:46,960 Speaker 8: Yeah. 350 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 5: I was lucky when I came to New York to 351 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:52,320 Speaker 5: get involved with some amazing people and it was always 352 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:54,960 Speaker 5: important for us. I remember our coach Glenn say, they're 353 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:57,199 Speaker 5: back in Edmonton, that he made every one of the 354 00:17:57,280 --> 00:17:59,720 Speaker 5: teammates when we were eighteen years old affiliate with a 355 00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:02,080 Speaker 5: chick and it's one of the best things that ever 356 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:04,640 Speaker 5: happened to us, and certainly me as as a professional 357 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:07,439 Speaker 5: because it gave me some perspective outside the game, and 358 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 5: I got involved with the Alberta Lung. 359 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:12,120 Speaker 8: Association until this day we still try to help out. 360 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:16,200 Speaker 5: Came to New York and one of the first things 361 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:20,560 Speaker 5: I did was join the UH UH the Cancer Institute 362 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 5: over in Hackensack Tomorrow's Children, which was incredible. 363 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:25,400 Speaker 8: I have a skyway over there that. 364 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:29,480 Speaker 5: Links the children's pavilion and the uh and the women's pavilion. 365 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:32,360 Speaker 5: I put all my memorability in there, and it took 366 00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:34,160 Speaker 5: place for the kids and the families to go get 367 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:36,600 Speaker 5: some reprieve and answer the call as you know, as 368 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:39,200 Speaker 5: the first responders in New York City for our NYPD 369 00:18:39,359 --> 00:18:41,840 Speaker 5: fd N Y and the first in our port authority. 370 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:46,000 Speaker 5: And we know what help impactful that charity has been 371 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:48,240 Speaker 5: to the city of New York and what great work 372 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:51,400 Speaker 5: UH we do over there. And of course my own 373 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 5: foundation and Mark Messier Foundation that's really kind of geared 374 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:58,720 Speaker 5: towards creating access and opportunity for kids under privileged kids 375 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 5: that would never have the opportunity to play some of 376 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 5: the sports and get on the ice and other things. 377 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:06,800 Speaker 5: So that's been a big part of not only since 378 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:08,720 Speaker 5: I've been retired, but also when I first came to 379 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 5: New York. 380 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:10,600 Speaker 8: So it's been a lot of years of. 381 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:12,919 Speaker 5: Some incredible work that's been done by a lot of 382 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:13,760 Speaker 5: amazing people. 383 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:17,640 Speaker 9: At six times Stanley Cup Champion hockey legend Mark Messier 384 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:20,960 Speaker 9: in the conversation with our colleagues Tom King and Paul 385 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 9: Sweeney on Bloomberg Surveillance has heard live on Bloomberg Radio. 386 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:28,359 Speaker 9: Catch that show every weekday morning starting at seven am 387 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:32,520 Speaker 9: Eastern and stream at live on YouTube. Now we head 388 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 9: to d C, where billionaire Monumental Sports and Entertainment chairman 389 00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:40,600 Speaker 9: and CEO Ted Leoneses is planning big things for the 390 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:44,240 Speaker 9: sports scene in the nation's capital. Leones has spoke with 391 00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:47,960 Speaker 9: Bloomberg Balance of Power hosts Joe Matthew earlier this week 392 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:51,159 Speaker 9: about his plans for DC, starting with how the deal 393 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 9: that would have brought the Wizards, Capitals and Mystics to 394 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:56,359 Speaker 9: Virginia fell through. 395 00:19:57,040 --> 00:20:00,720 Speaker 6: I never signed anything. That's the most remarkable thing in 396 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:03,240 Speaker 6: it was a handshake. Yeah, it was a handshake deal. 397 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 6: And you know Washington, d C. I came here from Lowell, 398 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:11,280 Speaker 6: Massachusetts on a Greyhound bus and the mid seventies, fell 399 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 6: in love with the city, went to Georgetown University, and 400 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:20,640 Speaker 6: then we stood up AOL and built really the commercialization 401 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:24,720 Speaker 6: of the internet not too far away in Virginia. And 402 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:29,480 Speaker 6: I've always looked at this community, the DMV if you will, 403 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:34,880 Speaker 6: being the district Maryland and Virginia. It's the most important market. 404 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 6: It's ten million people. It's the third or fourth largest 405 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:42,840 Speaker 6: DMA in the country. And so you know DC. We 406 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:46,480 Speaker 6: need a strong DC, We need a strong downtown. And 407 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 6: we owned the building, we owned the teams, we own 408 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:52,760 Speaker 6: the network, the studios here and so way you've made 409 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:55,159 Speaker 6: a big commitment, and we'll work with the mayor and 410 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:59,920 Speaker 6: help to reimagine what should the next version of downtown 411 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 6: rebirth look like. 412 00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:03,479 Speaker 13: Yeah, I want to ask you about what that looks like. 413 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:04,640 Speaker 8: But did Governor. 414 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:07,960 Speaker 13: Glenn Youngkin get a little over his skis when he 415 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:09,160 Speaker 13: shook your hand on that deal? 416 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:09,719 Speaker 4: What happened? 417 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 6: I think the governor is a really great executive, and 418 00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 6: he dealt with what basically everyone is dealing with a 419 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:30,200 Speaker 6: real bifurcated view of what is best for people. And 420 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:34,680 Speaker 6: when I said, Paula Tooks took over, this was a great, 421 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 6: great business deal. 422 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:40,920 Speaker 8: And we were told that your business isn't wanted here. 423 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:44,880 Speaker 6: And so that was done not through where we were 424 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 6: being located in Alexandria, but by the political machine in Richmond. 425 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:53,160 Speaker 6: And so, you know, you get to the point where 426 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 6: you say, there's no place like home. And we worked 427 00:21:56,880 --> 00:22:00,440 Speaker 6: the deal with the mayor and the city council, and 428 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:03,680 Speaker 6: you know, we're a part of that team. And the 429 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:10,680 Speaker 6: country needs a functioning, strong, safe, clean growth mindset. Washington, 430 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:13,560 Speaker 6: d C. Where a bell weather, if you will, for 431 00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 6: the entire country. And we fell behind a bit pre pandemic, 432 00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:23,879 Speaker 6: during the pandemic post pandemic, and I'm really glad that 433 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:27,440 Speaker 6: there's been this reckoning, if you will, and it's happening 434 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:30,520 Speaker 6: in all major metro areas and now we can move 435 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:36,159 Speaker 6: forward in coordination with business and the philanthropy community. We 436 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 6: have a unique set of issues here because of the 437 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:44,400 Speaker 6: federal government overlay, and you know, just every day we 438 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:48,720 Speaker 6: have to deal with things that connect Virginia and Maryland 439 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:53,480 Speaker 6: in DC, like the metro, like the traffic that needs 440 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:57,160 Speaker 6: to be mitigated, like the infrastructure dollars that are being 441 00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:01,040 Speaker 6: spent on roads and road closures and so all of that. 442 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:05,480 Speaker 6: I think we can play a big social responsibility role 443 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:07,200 Speaker 6: in helping to make things better. 444 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 13: Well, you're going to play a pivotal role in the 445 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:12,920 Speaker 13: future of the city in the downtown area. I heard 446 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:14,919 Speaker 13: you mentioned the other day you might be interested in, 447 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 13: speaking of talking like a politician an honorary title vice 448 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:21,120 Speaker 13: Mayor of the d DC Downtown DC, because that's kind 449 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:24,320 Speaker 13: of what you are. You joined city officials on a 450 00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 13: trip to Las Vegas to a retail conference a couple 451 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:30,240 Speaker 13: of weeks ago to bring business here. You're representing the city, 452 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 13: and what is truly a balance of politics and business. 453 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:34,439 Speaker 8: Isn't it. 454 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:37,119 Speaker 6: Yes you may not know this, but I was once 455 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 6: mayor elected mayor of my town in Florida. I serve 456 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 6: for six years as mayor. Every time I see many 457 00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:49,320 Speaker 6: of Bloomberg, we choke and call each other honorable. So 458 00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:51,640 Speaker 6: you should pay a little more respect. 459 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:52,920 Speaker 8: To me there, mister mayor. I appreciate it. 460 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:57,399 Speaker 6: Yes, I understand the role that we can play in 461 00:23:57,480 --> 00:24:02,679 Speaker 6: attracting businesses, And frankly, I said, I was surprised at 462 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:07,199 Speaker 6: you'd always heard how well managed the state of Virginia is. 463 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:09,080 Speaker 8: It has low. 464 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:13,119 Speaker 6: Taxes, it's a great state. But I found it easier 465 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:16,719 Speaker 6: to negotiate and work with the City of DC than 466 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:21,000 Speaker 6: I did with the State of Virginia. And so yeah, 467 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:22,840 Speaker 6: I'm going to go out and be an evangelist for 468 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:26,560 Speaker 6: the city, for the mayor, for the city council. I 469 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:29,679 Speaker 6: want a higher quality of life for our employees. We 470 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:33,080 Speaker 6: bring two and a half million people into the city 471 00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:37,720 Speaker 6: every year for our concerts, for NCAA tournaments, for the capitals, 472 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:39,960 Speaker 6: for the Wizards, for the Mystics. We have back to 473 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:44,720 Speaker 6: back Mystics games WNBA tonight and tomorrow night. There'll be 474 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:48,119 Speaker 6: thirty thousand people or so in those two nights coming 475 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:51,520 Speaker 6: into DC, and most of them come in from Maryland 476 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:55,040 Speaker 6: in Virginia, and they'll spend money in DC, pay tax 477 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:55,680 Speaker 6: dollars here. 478 00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 9: That's building your Mayor. Dead Leones's chairman and CEO of 479 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:03,960 Speaker 9: Monumental Sports at Entertainment, speaking with Bloomberg Balance of Power 480 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:08,080 Speaker 9: hosts Joe Matthew earlier this week. Don't miss Bloomberg Balance 481 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:12,080 Speaker 9: of Power weekday afternoons from noon to two and again 482 00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:17,399 Speaker 9: at five pm Eastern on Bloomberg Television and Radio. Up next, 483 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:21,479 Speaker 9: we turn back to basketball for a special conversation with 484 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:25,919 Speaker 9: WNBA legend Ryl Swoops. You're listening to the Bloomberg Business 485 00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:28,879 Speaker 9: of Sports from Bloomberg Radio. Around the world. 486 00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:45,080 Speaker 1: You're listening to Bloomberg Business of Sports from Bloomberg Radio. 487 00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:48,760 Speaker 1: This is the Bloomberg Business of Sports show. But we 488 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:50,760 Speaker 1: explored the big money issues the world of sports. 489 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:53,879 Speaker 11: I'm Michael Barr, I'm Scarlett Foo, and I'm Bimian Sausauer. 490 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:54,120 Speaker 8: Man. 491 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:56,040 Speaker 9: We can make so much money of the stuff that 492 00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:59,200 Speaker 9: happens off Mike that we need to save this stuff 493 00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:02,679 Speaker 9: and then one day just air it. We make a 494 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:05,840 Speaker 9: boatload of money. Cheryl Swoops, that's all I got to say. 495 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:09,520 Speaker 9: She's in the Basketball Hall of Fame. She was the 496 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:13,720 Speaker 9: standout in the w NBA. And by the way, if 497 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:18,280 Speaker 9: you want to win on trivial pursuit and someone says, 498 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:21,359 Speaker 9: who was the first player to sign in the w NBA, 499 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:26,240 Speaker 9: it's Cheryl Swoops. Cheryl, welcome to the Bloomberg Business and Sports. 500 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:29,199 Speaker 14: Thanks for having me. How are you. 501 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:32,479 Speaker 9: I'm doing great. I'm going to start with the happy 502 00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:37,400 Speaker 9: business part here you've been the pioneer of air Swoops, 503 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:41,240 Speaker 9: the Nike shoe, and it's been successful. Take us through that, please. 504 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:43,960 Speaker 3: First of all, you're not supposed to give away that 505 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:54,399 Speaker 3: trivia answer. Hopefully it'll be useful. Yeah, I mean, you know, 506 00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:59,560 Speaker 3: I am god this thing called sports and basketball, and 507 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:03,119 Speaker 3: I've been very fortunate to be able to be a 508 00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:06,680 Speaker 3: part of it forever and still continue to be involved 509 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:10,240 Speaker 3: with it. But when you talk about my shoe, the 510 00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:15,760 Speaker 3: Nike air Swoops, being the first you know, female athlete, 511 00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:19,000 Speaker 3: let alone the first black female athlete with a to 512 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:22,280 Speaker 3: have her own signature shoe with Nike back in nineteen 513 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:26,520 Speaker 3: ninety seven, was the first pair was pretty special for me, 514 00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:30,520 Speaker 3: and obviously it was very special for all the young 515 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:33,480 Speaker 3: girls up and coming, and you know, I mean, we 516 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:36,280 Speaker 3: can get into that later, but you see where where 517 00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:39,240 Speaker 3: we are with that and all the other women who've 518 00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:42,399 Speaker 3: come after me who now have their own signature shoes. 519 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:46,400 Speaker 3: So you know, for me, it was always bigger than 520 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:49,080 Speaker 3: myself and bigger than the moment, and that's where we 521 00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:49,720 Speaker 3: are today. 522 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:52,640 Speaker 14: I was fortunate enough to be able to have. 523 00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:59,000 Speaker 3: Six seven different versions of my shoe from nineteen ninety 524 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:01,639 Speaker 3: seven until you know I'm a little older, so my 525 00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:03,960 Speaker 3: math isn't as good as it should be anymore. 526 00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:06,720 Speaker 14: But yeah, it was a special moment. 527 00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:10,880 Speaker 3: Nike just approached me about, you know, designing a women's 528 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:13,600 Speaker 3: basketball shoe before I knew it was going to be 529 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:16,080 Speaker 3: my own shoe, because you know, when I played, I 530 00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:19,600 Speaker 3: grew up and I played, there weren't any women's basketball shoes. 531 00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:23,200 Speaker 3: It was all about the men. And I always played 532 00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:26,320 Speaker 3: in men's basketball shoes. So when I got that opportunity 533 00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:30,000 Speaker 3: to have a conversation with Nike about what was important 534 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:32,040 Speaker 3: to me and a women's shoe, and then helping to 535 00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:35,320 Speaker 3: design it, and then to ultimately find out that it 536 00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:37,920 Speaker 3: was going to be named after me, the Nike Air Swoops, 537 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:43,400 Speaker 3: you can only imagine how emotional I got at that moment. 538 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:45,080 Speaker 3: And the crazy thing is is that when I think 539 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:48,560 Speaker 3: about it, I still get emotional to this day just 540 00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:51,240 Speaker 3: just having a conversation and reliving that moment. 541 00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:55,720 Speaker 4: Absolutely I can imagine very poignant. I want to get 542 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:58,560 Speaker 4: your take, Cheryl, on what you see with the WNBA 543 00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:03,800 Speaker 4: right now season began. There's a new superstar in the league, 544 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:06,280 Speaker 4: and I wonder to how much what we've seen so 545 00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:10,160 Speaker 4: far is just a the veterans giving the rookie a 546 00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:14,239 Speaker 4: welcome to the w NBA kind of moment. With what 547 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:17,240 Speaker 4: some people are saying are some hard fouls. 548 00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:21,480 Speaker 3: You know, I first want to just say good, bad 549 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:25,560 Speaker 3: and different. The fact that so many people are talking 550 00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:31,240 Speaker 3: about women's basketball is it's different and it's good. It's 551 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:37,520 Speaker 3: conversation every single day, which has never happened. You know, 552 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:41,640 Speaker 3: Sue Wix, who played for the New York Liberty back 553 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:44,200 Speaker 3: in the day when I played, she posted something on 554 00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:47,600 Speaker 3: Facebook and I shared it because I thought with all 555 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:50,960 Speaker 3: the conversation and everything that everybody has to say about 556 00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:53,680 Speaker 3: women's basketball today, even those who have never watched the 557 00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:57,760 Speaker 3: game before, Sue was so spottled with what she said. 558 00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:01,920 Speaker 3: And to me, when the league first started back at 559 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:05,000 Speaker 3: ninety seven, you know, we were just excited to have 560 00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:08,600 Speaker 3: a league to play in. And again, it's always been 561 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:12,200 Speaker 3: about leaving things better than we found it. And the 562 00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:15,520 Speaker 3: fact that these women are doing the things they're doing today, 563 00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:19,040 Speaker 3: they have the eyeballs on the game that they have today, 564 00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:24,160 Speaker 3: they have these crazy endorsements and you know, wonderful opportunities. 565 00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:26,080 Speaker 14: That's what we've always wanted. 566 00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:30,520 Speaker 3: And not just for Caitlin for every single young lady 567 00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:34,000 Speaker 3: that's in the league today. That's this rookie class that 568 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:37,400 Speaker 3: came in that I know everyone's excited about, everyone's talking about, 569 00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:41,240 Speaker 3: but it's also the Vets and the Ogs and the 570 00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:44,680 Speaker 3: players who've been in this league for a while. I 571 00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:48,840 Speaker 3: think it's great for the game. It's exciting, and you know, 572 00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:54,760 Speaker 3: it's basketball, it's sports. And the thing that really gets 573 00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:59,120 Speaker 3: me is, you know, at first people were saying, well, 574 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:01,320 Speaker 3: when women start to dunk, more people will tune in 575 00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:01,800 Speaker 3: and watch. 576 00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:03,400 Speaker 14: I never agreed with that. 577 00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:06,480 Speaker 3: I never believed it because to me, women's basketball has 578 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:09,520 Speaker 3: always been fun, it's always been exciting. The difference today 579 00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:13,479 Speaker 3: is one I think it's social media. You have a 580 00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:17,120 Speaker 3: place where you can really connect with these players and 581 00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:20,160 Speaker 3: feel like you know them, so then you continue, you 582 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:21,600 Speaker 3: follow them in college. 583 00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:22,920 Speaker 14: Then you move on to the w n b A. 584 00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:26,520 Speaker 3: And you know, when you when you talk about hard fouls, 585 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:29,720 Speaker 3: and I know, the conversation over the last few days 586 00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:33,959 Speaker 3: and even today has been the foul Kennedy Carter on 587 00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:37,320 Speaker 3: Caitlyn Clark. And you know, I think one thing everybody 588 00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:39,320 Speaker 3: agrees on, myself included, is. 589 00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:41,920 Speaker 14: That that foul was foul. 590 00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:46,400 Speaker 3: It was not a basketball play, it was unnecessary, and 591 00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:49,320 Speaker 3: so of course everyone gets in an uproar. But when 592 00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:51,720 Speaker 3: I go back and I look at so many other 593 00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:55,360 Speaker 3: fouls and situations and things that has happened in the 594 00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:58,200 Speaker 3: w NBA over the past couple of weeks. You know, 595 00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:03,200 Speaker 3: Alyssa Thomas clothesline, clotheslining Angel Reese and taking her down. 596 00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:06,960 Speaker 3: I mean, to me, that was worse than what happened 597 00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:11,480 Speaker 3: to Caitlin, But there's no uproar over that. So I 598 00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:15,520 Speaker 3: guess at the end of the day, the hard fouls, 599 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:19,320 Speaker 3: the physical play, the contact, it's. 600 00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:20,480 Speaker 11: All part of the sports, part. 601 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:20,720 Speaker 9: Of the game. 602 00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:24,520 Speaker 3: I'm not saying anything that's not stuff that's not a 603 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:27,440 Speaker 3: part of the play, right, the unnecessary stuff that has 604 00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:32,200 Speaker 3: no place in sports. But listen, if you're gonna play sports, 605 00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:34,320 Speaker 3: I don't care male or female, I don't care what 606 00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:37,520 Speaker 3: sport it is. There's going to be trash talking, there's 607 00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:40,120 Speaker 3: going to be physical play, and if you can dish 608 00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:41,760 Speaker 3: it out, you got to be able to take it. 609 00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:45,760 Speaker 10: Cheryl Swoops, four time WNBA champion, three time MVP, won 610 00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:49,480 Speaker 10: the NCAA Championship with Texas Tech back in ninety three, 611 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:51,719 Speaker 10: but I want to hear about some of your happenings 612 00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:54,040 Speaker 10: off the court. You know, since you've retired, you know, 613 00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:55,840 Speaker 10: you've been involved in a lot of different things. I 614 00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:58,520 Speaker 10: know breast cancer awareness is one of them. Can you 615 00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:00,520 Speaker 10: tell us a little bit about what you're doing in 616 00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:04,360 Speaker 10: healthcare advocacy and particularly as it release the cancer treatment. 617 00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:07,720 Speaker 14: Yeah, thanks for asking. 618 00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:13,280 Speaker 3: You know, I feel like for myself personally, sports gave 619 00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:17,400 Speaker 3: me so many opportunities, obviously while I was playing it 620 00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:20,600 Speaker 3: on the court, but since I retired and the things 621 00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:23,600 Speaker 3: that are important to me and passionate that I'm passionate 622 00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:26,920 Speaker 3: about off the court, Sports gave me that platform to 623 00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:31,600 Speaker 3: be able to have a voice and being a spokesperson 624 00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:35,000 Speaker 3: for radnet and especially when it comes to breast cancer 625 00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:39,640 Speaker 3: is definitely something I'm passionate about. My mom had thirteen 626 00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:43,280 Speaker 3: brothers and sisters, and excuse me, at least seven of 627 00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:46,600 Speaker 3: them passed away from some form of cancer. My mom 628 00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:49,800 Speaker 3: passed away seven years ago to colon cancer, three aunts 629 00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:52,520 Speaker 3: passed away from breast cancer, three uncles passed away from 630 00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:57,480 Speaker 3: prostate cancer. So this is one that's very near and 631 00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:00,080 Speaker 3: dear to my heart, and just to be able to 632 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:03,200 Speaker 3: get the awareness out there and talk to not just women, 633 00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:05,440 Speaker 3: but you know, talk to men as well about the 634 00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:10,960 Speaker 3: importance of getting your mammograms in early screening. And you know, 635 00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:14,200 Speaker 3: one stat that really stood out to me when I 636 00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:16,399 Speaker 3: decided to be a part of rating It and talk 637 00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:19,680 Speaker 3: to them was, you know that breast cancer remains it's 638 00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:24,760 Speaker 3: the second leading cause of cancer related deaths among young women. 639 00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:31,680 Speaker 3: And I had a mammogram done about a month ago 640 00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:33,600 Speaker 3: when when I was in New York for a rating 641 00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:40,600 Speaker 3: an event and the radiologists saw something on my mamogram 642 00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:43,880 Speaker 3: that she didn't like, so we immediately did some more images. 643 00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:46,279 Speaker 14: Then I ended up having a biopsy. 644 00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:50,200 Speaker 3: And I have to tell you, for anyone out there 645 00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:52,920 Speaker 3: who's listening, if you've never had a mammogram, First. 646 00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:56,879 Speaker 14: Of all, it wasn't painful, It didn't hurt. 647 00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:00,799 Speaker 3: The worst part of it was the stress of is 648 00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:02,160 Speaker 3: there going to be something there? 649 00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:07,120 Speaker 14: Are they going to see something? But I have to 650 00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:09,480 Speaker 14: say I was so glad I did it. The worst 651 00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:10,960 Speaker 14: part was the waiting period. 652 00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:14,440 Speaker 3: About three or four days after I had my biopsy, 653 00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:16,680 Speaker 3: I got the results back and it came back everything 654 00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:20,279 Speaker 3: was fine. But you know, to me, it's a matter 655 00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:24,200 Speaker 3: of life or death right. If you have your mammograms, 656 00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:27,560 Speaker 3: you get screened. If they see something early enough, they 657 00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:31,400 Speaker 3: could absolutely there's a treatment plan and it could possibly 658 00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:32,160 Speaker 3: save your life. 659 00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:33,880 Speaker 14: So that's why this is something that's. 660 00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:37,000 Speaker 3: So near and dear to my heart and so important 661 00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:38,719 Speaker 3: for me to be able to have a voice in it. 662 00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:44,480 Speaker 9: I think you said it very well. And I'm speaking 663 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:49,560 Speaker 9: on behalf of my mom who died from breast cancer. 664 00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:56,360 Speaker 9: It's no secret my wife right now is going through cancer, 665 00:35:57,160 --> 00:36:02,360 Speaker 9: and I want to there's some language I want to use. 666 00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:05,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, I am oh gosh, I'm gonna try that to 667 00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:11,759 Speaker 3: get emotional. First of all, I'm so sorry cancer, And 668 00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:14,000 Speaker 3: it doesn't matter what kind it is, right, it's one 669 00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:19,120 Speaker 3: of the I say, it's the ugliest disease out there. 670 00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:22,920 Speaker 3: It's the one thing that doesn't discriminate. And to me, 671 00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:26,960 Speaker 3: that's why it's so important, and especially in the African 672 00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:30,680 Speaker 3: American community and you know, the black and brown communities, 673 00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:34,480 Speaker 3: it's something that we just don't talk about it for 674 00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:39,160 Speaker 3: whatever reason. I know my mom didn't, my aunts didn't. 675 00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:41,080 Speaker 3: When we found out my mom had cancer, she was 676 00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:44,799 Speaker 3: already in stage four, and for whatever reason, it's just 677 00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:47,840 Speaker 3: something we don't talk about one thing I will say 678 00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:51,080 Speaker 3: again with Bradnet, they have this program it's called MAMMOGLAMB, 679 00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:56,160 Speaker 3: but they also have these screening facilities in Walmarts. 680 00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:57,800 Speaker 14: And I think that's. 681 00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:01,880 Speaker 3: One of the best ideas, best things out there, because 682 00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:05,160 Speaker 3: for people who go to Walmart, you shop at Walmart, 683 00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:08,640 Speaker 3: you're already there shopping anyway, so why not get your groceries, 684 00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:10,120 Speaker 3: get whatever else you need. 685 00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:12,400 Speaker 14: And just get your mammogram. 686 00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:17,600 Speaker 3: Again, It's something that could potentially save a life. And 687 00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:21,839 Speaker 3: I'm just I'm so thrilled that I get an opportunity 688 00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:23,719 Speaker 3: to be a part of something that's so important. 689 00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:28,399 Speaker 9: Cheryl Swoops Basketball Hall of Famer, and you're out there 690 00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:33,680 Speaker 9: fighting a good fight against cancer. I cannot say enough, 691 00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:36,000 Speaker 9: and thank you so much for coming on the Bloomberg 692 00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:39,759 Speaker 9: Business or Sports. It means a lot to a lot 693 00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:44,000 Speaker 9: of people out there listening, and especially to me fight 694 00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:45,640 Speaker 9: the good fight. Thank you so much, Cheryl. 695 00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:47,680 Speaker 14: I appreciate you. Thank you. 696 00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:50,880 Speaker 9: This is the Bloomberg Business of Sports show. 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