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Speaker 3: Welcome to the Action Network Podcast. I'm Brandon Anderson here

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Speaker 3: as all is with Raheem Palmer to wrap up a

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Speaker 3: mostly mundane Week six. The favorites bounced back as nearly

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Speaker 3: every big public favorite one on Sunday, most of them

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Speaker 3: big all seven favorites one and covered in the early

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Speaker 3: afternoon Slate. It's kind of a slog day of football.

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Speaker 3: You even got a quiet witching hour an NFL red

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Speaker 3: zone today that we did get three overtime finishes, which

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Speaker 3: we will talk about soon.

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Speaker 2: Rahiem, how's your week? Sex?

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Speaker 1: I mean it was it was solid. It was interesting

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Speaker 1: because the public absolutely dominated. Every single public team pretty

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Speaker 1: much came through and it had to be a good

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Speaker 1: day for the public. I think when you're I'm going

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Speaker 1: to consider myself one of a sharper player, and I'm

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Speaker 1: I'm I can be contrarian at times, so like days

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Speaker 1: like this aren't the best days.

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Speaker 3: I'm honestly, this felt like a day that the books

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Speaker 3: got hit pretty hard, and I think a day that

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Speaker 3: sharps got hit pretty hard.

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Speaker 2: To you.

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Speaker 3: A lot of those underdog and taking the points angles

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Speaker 3: where the points seemed too much. The favorites overcame today

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Speaker 3: and ended up covering even some of these kind of

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Speaker 3: backdoor late covers sort of things. So yeah, we'll get

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Speaker 3: to all those. As usual, we'll run through the Sunday

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Speaker 3: slate with betting takeaways for every game we preview Monday

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Speaker 3: Night Football, and do our Week seven Hot read as always.

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Speaker 3: Odds today are from Bett MGM, the official odds provider

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Speaker 3: of the Action Network podcast.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's talk about.

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Speaker 3: Those three overtime games today, and we'll start with the

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Speaker 3: one that just finished in Pittsburgh Sunday night. So it

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Speaker 3: was not the Sunday night game that we were hoping for,

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Speaker 3: nothing like the marquee games we've had in a recent weeks,

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Speaker 3: but we got a good one. First half started out ugly,

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Speaker 3: didn't even look super watchable. Seattle got the ball moving

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Speaker 3: the second half, Alex Collins running the ball, open up

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Speaker 3: the play action, Seahawks come all the way back, We

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Speaker 3: send it to overtime, and then TJ. A. Watt takes

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Speaker 3: over from there. Steelers kick the field goal for the win.

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Speaker 3: Seattle ends up covering the five, but they pushed on

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Speaker 3: the total. Talk to me about TJ.

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Speaker 2: Watt. What a game for that dude.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely dominant. I mean, he pretty much won the game.

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Speaker 1: He had the sack that pretty much put them out

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Speaker 1: of field goal range when Seahawks were driving to start overtime,

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Speaker 1: and then he had the game winning sack to pretty

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Speaker 1: much force the fumble. It's just you need to get

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Speaker 1: those type of dominant performances, especially when you don't have

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Speaker 1: a great offense. And you know, kudos to him.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he had a forty pass ud win rate, which

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Speaker 3: is yeah, that's a lot on that strip sack. For

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Speaker 3: just a split second, Devin Bush picked that up and

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Speaker 3: started running the wrong way. I thought we might get

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Speaker 3: Jim Marshall, Like only a Seahawks game could end in

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Speaker 3: overtime with the winning safety returned seventy five yards the

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Speaker 2: We had a chance.

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Speaker 3: We had a chance there, but you know, cue up

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Speaker 3: the Kevin Clark that there's never been a normal Seahawks

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Speaker 3: game tweet that always comes out on every single Seahawks game.

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Speaker 3: Weird game. There was the weird replay right before the

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Speaker 3: end of regulation. DK Metcalf had a catch near the sideline,

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Speaker 3: and then a great punch out. We got a lot

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Speaker 3: of players stealing that peanut Tillman punch these days, and

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Speaker 3: they recover the ball, run it to the line, get

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Speaker 2: This was kind of an old school game overall.

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Speaker 3: It felt like, especially in the second half, it felt

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Speaker 3: like Pete Carroll and Mike Tomlin were just like, all right,

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Speaker 2: I'll punch you, you punch me. Let's see who flinches first.

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Speaker 2: And I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Tj Ott won the fight without a doubt, Without a doubt.

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Speaker 3: So Steelers go to three and three. Feels like they

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Speaker 3: Dallas moves to five and one on the year, six

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Speaker 3: and zero against the spread. They're unstoppable. Cowboys win thirty

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Speaker 1: That was a frustrating game for me because I actually

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Speaker 1: many things that had to go wrong for the Cowboys

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Speaker 1: to cover that game. And I told somebody today, trey

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Speaker 1: Vione Diggs is not going to have an interception in

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Speaker 1: case scenario is the Patriots go three and out, they

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Speaker 1: punt the ball back to the Cowboys. Cowboys come down

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Speaker 1: to kick a field goal, he throws a pick six.

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Speaker 1: The following play, they target Trayvon Diggs, they score a touchdown.

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Speaker 1: kick a field goal. Of course they punted. The Cowboys

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Speaker 1: broken play gets a touchdown literally one of the most

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Speaker 1: it matters, And I'm not sure you can't.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the Cowboys really should have dominated this game. Like

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Speaker 3: you said, five hundred and sixty seven yards, that is

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Speaker 3: a huge number. That was two hundred and thirty four

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Speaker 3: But then Dallas undid so much of that twelve penalties

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Speaker 3: You know that no one is really question because the

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Speaker 3: Cowboys are winning. But they have that fourth and one,

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Speaker 3: you know where they just before halftime, and I think

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Speaker 3: that was the right call. You go for it, You

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Speaker 3: try to punch the ball in. They got stuffed and

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Speaker 3: they scared them off because now you get down late

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Speaker 3: little more, get into better field goal, arrange maybe score

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Speaker 3: the long field goal probably should have cast them the game.

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Speaker 3: But then Trayvon Diggs bails them out gets the pick

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Speaker 3: six I saw digs seven interceptions is already in week six,

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Speaker 3: already the most by any Dallas Cowboys since nineteen eighty

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Speaker 3: five for an entire season. Shouts to Everson Walls with

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Speaker 3: instead of going for it, take another field goal. But

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Speaker 3: they made the long one. Send it over time. And

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Speaker 3: you know, McCarthy, the whole thing was, he took all

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Speaker 3: the he took his sabbatical, he took his time off.

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Speaker 3: He's supposed to learn the ways of the modern game

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Speaker 3: and learn all the analytics. It clearly did not happen.

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Speaker 3: So definitely definitely a problem. Let's queue up the stink

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Speaker 2: Smelly, smelly, smelly.

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Speaker 1: It's the smell. It's quite pungent.

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Speaker 2: Did plug your nose?

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Speaker 1: It's stinks.

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Speaker 3: This is your stink.

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Speaker 2: Of the week you talked about.

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Speaker 3: Cowboys come out get stopped in fourth down. The next

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Speaker 3: three drives boom, boom, boom, three touchdowns. It's fourteen to seven,

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Speaker 3: and again I'm on twenty four. There's a few twenty

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Speaker 3: We got a whole second quarter. Still, there's already twenty

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Speaker 3: one up. The defenses haven't showed up, so I already

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Speaker 3: we're over. I lost the under, but touchdown comes off

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Speaker 3: the board and then the Patriots fumble. No points on

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Speaker 3: I'm on a push on mine. Some of the people

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Speaker 2: You just just need points, just get any points here.

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Speaker 2: We're already there.

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Speaker 3: And that's where they get down to the one on

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Speaker 3: Cedric Wilson first and goal. In the one with Dallas,

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Speaker 3: you have like the two most efficient running in the league,

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Speaker 3: and they three times get stuffed. Fourth time Dak stretches out,

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Speaker 3: they call the touchdown, they review it, they overturn the fumble.

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Speaker 3: We end at twenty four. Greatest first half under push

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Speaker 3: of my life. Big play by Juwan Bentley getting the

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Speaker 3: fumble there. But if you had the over in the

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Speaker 3: first half, boy, that is a stink of the week

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Speaker 2: And you can you.

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Speaker 1: Didn't even you didn't even name the best stink of

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Speaker 3: This is the most passing yards Bill Belichick team has

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Speaker 3: So Dallas looking good. They did show Dak Prescott had

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Speaker 1: There's so much frustrating about the game, even even before

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, you can tell by the way that

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Speaker 3: But you're right, you know, normally we're used to seeing

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Speaker 3: so you know, they let them hang around, they play

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Speaker 1: To me, this was the second most frustrating game of

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the Vikings were up eleven with five minutes left

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Speaker 3: In that game, Minnesota could be five and one right now.

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Speaker 3: But that really obscures how bad he was because he

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Speaker 2: And I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Oh, without a down Minnesota. When you look at I

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Speaker 3: So let's talk about You mentioned the COVID team that

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Speaker 2: You mentioned COVID.

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Speaker 3: Should have been worse by them, to be honest, this

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, without a doubt. And it started from pretty

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the Browns thirty seven to fourteen. It honestly was

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Speaker 3: it was. You know, I said it was twenty and

439
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Speaker 3: nothing early and then twenty twenty three to seven nearly

440
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Speaker 3: before halftime. That's when that hail Mary that you mentioned,

441
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Speaker 3: that's when that hit and donovand people's jones the hail Mary.

442
00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:30,440
Speaker 3: It's only as twenty three to fourteen and we hit

443
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Speaker 3: the over there and that was a rough beat. That

444
00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:36,080
Speaker 3: was that's the end. The Cleveland then't score again in

445
00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:37,919
Speaker 3: the second half after that, it did.

446
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Speaker 1: It did look like they were they were going to

447
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Speaker 1: make it a game because they came out in the

448
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Speaker 1: second half. They stopped Arizona, they got the ball. Did

449
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Speaker 1: I think they got a three and out? They stopped

450
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Speaker 1: Arizona again, and then they get the ball back and

451
00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:54,560
Speaker 1: they're driving down the field and they get it too.

452
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Speaker 1: About the Arizona forty four Baker gets sacked, sack fumble,

453
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Speaker 1: that's another thing we got to talk about Arizona's fumble luck.

454
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Speaker 1: It's just absolutely out of this world.

455
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Speaker 3: The Browns had so many mistakes this game that they

456
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Speaker 3: lost to fumbles. They had an interception early, you know

457
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Speaker 3: that twenty nothing I mentioned. They had a turnover on downs,

458
00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:16,240
Speaker 3: interception and a fumble right away, and the Cardinals settled

459
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Speaker 3: for field goals. In the first half, they scored every

460
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Speaker 3: drive and came away only with twenty three first half points.

461
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Speaker 3: They could have had thirty seven by halftime if they

462
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Speaker 3: had put these you know, put the game away, gotten

463
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Speaker 3: into the end zone. You mentioned four to seven in

464
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Speaker 3: the red zone. That's not even all those field goals.

465
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Speaker 3: That's seven trips in the red zone. The whole thing

466
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Speaker 3: with the Browns that we've been excited about this is

467
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Speaker 3: our Browns podcast.

468
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Speaker 2: We've been talking them up because.

469
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Speaker 3: Their defense was taking a big step forward and it

470
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Speaker 3: just didn't happen today. Both both sides really didn't show up.

471
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Speaker 3: I'm willing to excuse the offense. We found out a

472
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Speaker 3: couple hours before the game that both tackles weren't going

473
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Speaker 3: to be playing. I certainly didn't expect that, and I thought,

474
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Speaker 3: you know, both of us were on the Browns. I

475
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Speaker 3: think we loved the run game how it shaped up.

476
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Speaker 3: But then it turns out when you lose your star

477
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Speaker 3: tackles and Nick Chubb, who I think is maybe the

478
00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:06,200
Speaker 3: best running back in football, yeah, your run game is

479
00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:08,200
Speaker 3: not going to be quite as dominant When that happens

480
00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:10,840
Speaker 3: and you go down twenty to nothing before you blink, yeah,

481
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Speaker 3: you're probably not gonna be able to run the ball

482
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Speaker 3: as well when you're playing from a three touchdown deficit

483
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Speaker 3: the entire game.

484
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Speaker 2: So yeah, I think Chubb will be back this Thursday.

485
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Speaker 2: I don't know.

486
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Speaker 3: It's not a good time to have a short week.

487
00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:25,119
Speaker 3: Kareem Hunt has a calf strain, so it looks like

488
00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:28,280
Speaker 3: he might miss some time. Baker, it looked really bad

489
00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:31,440
Speaker 3: for a second. He hurt that left shoulder again, though

490
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Speaker 3: he kept playing. Obj it you didn't mention him. He's

491
00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:38,840
Speaker 3: hurt again always. J Oka got hurt. But the offense

492
00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:41,679
Speaker 3: was so banged up. I'm willing to overlook that a

493
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Speaker 3: little bit. The defense, I don't know what excuses.

494
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Speaker 2: To make for that.

495
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Speaker 3: That did feel to me. It didn't feel like this

496
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Speaker 3: was the Cardinals juggernaut that just blew them away. It

497
00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:56,480
Speaker 3: felt more like the Browns just laid a complete egg

498
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Speaker 3: and just didn't show. Cardinals playmakers made some play, but

499
00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:03,159
Speaker 3: it's felt like the Browns just really brownsing it up

500
00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:04,359
Speaker 3: to that.

501
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Speaker 1: Exactly what it felt like. I'm still I'm afraid that

502
00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:10,359
Speaker 1: this Arizona Cardinals team is going to be the team

503
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Speaker 1: that sharps and you know, guys at our company are

504
00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:18,639
Speaker 1: going to continue to fade and we're gonna get burnt.

505
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Speaker 1: And I think there's always a team like that where

506
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Speaker 1: you feel like this team's not nearly as good as

507
00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:26,080
Speaker 1: you think they are, but for some reason, they find

508
00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:28,880
Speaker 1: ways to win. And I think I have to kind

509
00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:31,040
Speaker 1: of put a stop loss on that at some point,

510
00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:35,320
Speaker 1: just because it's pretty clear that one way or another,

511
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Speaker 1: they're going to find a way to win, and it's

512
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Speaker 1: kind of frustrating.

513
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Speaker 3: So, yeah, what do you think about this? This is

514
00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:44,000
Speaker 3: my theory with them. I'm starting to tinker with. So

515
00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:46,880
Speaker 3: you know, we've dumped a lot on Cliff Kingsbury. It's

516
00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:49,080
Speaker 3: still doesn't look like he's gonna be the first coach

517
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Speaker 3: fire this season, but get you know, give some time.

518
00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:55,480
Speaker 3: The Cardinals now thirty seven to fourteen in Cleveland here,

519
00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:57,879
Speaker 3: don't forget a couple of weeks ago, thirty seven to

520
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Speaker 3: ten in Los Angeles. I thought that we're gonna run

521
00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:02,400
Speaker 3: away with that game, and that would be the week

522
00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:05,200
Speaker 3: that the Cardinals were exposed. So that's two huge road

523
00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:08,040
Speaker 3: wins for them. They're playing the Texans next week, so

524
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Speaker 3: mark them down for seven to zero. Here's my theory

525
00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:15,280
Speaker 3: with Arizona Cliff Kingsbury. First of all, We know producer

526
00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:17,639
Speaker 3: Matt Mitchell would want us to point out Kingsbury is

527
00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:20,200
Speaker 3: bad in the second half of the season. We haven't

528
00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:22,560
Speaker 3: made it there yet. There's still time for the Cardinals

529
00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:25,240
Speaker 3: to collapse and for Kingsbury to do his thing. But

530
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Speaker 3: what I'm wondering is this, every time I watch Arizona,

531
00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:29,720
Speaker 3: every time, especially if you're on a red zone and

532
00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:32,960
Speaker 3: it's bouncing around, you get to Arizona and it just

533
00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:37,560
Speaker 3: looks different. You see Kyler Murray, or you see Chase Edmonds,

534
00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:40,639
Speaker 3: or you see rond All Moore. They get all these little, tiny,

535
00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:44,200
Speaker 3: speedy dudes who are just running past everyone on defense.

536
00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:49,159
Speaker 3: And what I'm wondering is did Arizona fall apart in

537
00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:52,479
Speaker 3: previous years because they just didn't have the right weapons.

538
00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:55,480
Speaker 3: They've been running all these little bubble screens and curls

539
00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:57,800
Speaker 3: and just get the ball to playmakers, but didn't how

540
00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:01,280
Speaker 3: many playmakers. They didn't have enough playmakers. So I'm wondering

541
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Speaker 3: now that they got all these little dudes, now that

542
00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:06,680
Speaker 3: Kyler Murray can run around and do his thing, is

543
00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:09,480
Speaker 3: anything more terrifying than Kyler with a little bit of

544
00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:12,280
Speaker 3: space and it's like he's giggling as he runs past you.

545
00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:16,640
Speaker 3: It's like playground football. So is there a chance that

546
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:20,680
Speaker 3: this is a juggernaut and Kyler is an MVP and

547
00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:23,760
Speaker 3: we just needed Kingsbury to get the toys he needed

548
00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:24,880
Speaker 3: for his offense to work.

549
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Speaker 2: What do you think about that theory.

550
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Speaker 1: I do think there's a chance. I think that's that's

551
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Speaker 1: the real possibility. I think one of the things that

552
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Speaker 1: we tend to over underrate last year is that Kyler

553
00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:35,720
Speaker 1: Murray was banged up, he got hurt, he was never

554
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Speaker 1: the same after injuring his shoulder, and it's pretty clear

555
00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:41,720
Speaker 1: that he's healthy. I think that's another thing that we

556
00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:44,400
Speaker 1: kind of had a misconception in coming into this game,

557
00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:47,400
Speaker 1: is that he ever talks to Kyler Murray was banged up,

558
00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:50,800
Speaker 1: hurt his shoulder again. So I'm thinking that we probably

559
00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:53,159
Speaker 1: see the same issues that we saw Murray last season,

560
00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:55,840
Speaker 1: and we didn't see him today. He looked perfectly fine today.

561
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Speaker 1: So I think if Kyler Murray is healthy, you got

562
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Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins, you got around them more, you got Chase Edmonds.

563
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:06,080
Speaker 1: You have so many of these weapons, and it's tough

564
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:09,320
Speaker 1: to stop, especially when we have a quarterback who's can't quick.

565
00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:13,320
Speaker 1: It's almost like Tom and Jerry and you can't catch

566
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Speaker 1: this guy. And actually the defense has been the most

567
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Speaker 1: One of the most impressive things for me is that

568
00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:23,080
Speaker 1: they're finding ways to slow teams down, so it's possible

569
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Speaker 1: they could be the Juggernaut.

570
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Speaker 3: Yeah, Kyler Murray is now the favorite, well still the favorite.

571
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Speaker 3: I guess he has Bunny's plus three fifty right now

572
00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:34,080
Speaker 3: to win MVP at bet MGM. However, the Cardinals still

573
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:36,560
Speaker 3: getting a little disrespected in Super Bowl odds. They are

574
00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:39,320
Speaker 3: plus nine hundred right now at bet MGM, so only

575
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:42,240
Speaker 3: the fifth favorite. Even in the NFC, they're behind the

576
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:45,680
Speaker 3: Bucks and the Rams. So are you making up bet

577
00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:47,439
Speaker 3: on the Cardinal Super Bowl odds at this point?

578
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:49,960
Speaker 1: I'm not making a bet on the Cardinal Super Bowl odds,

579
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Speaker 1: but I definitely think they're a team that I'm trying

580
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:53,199
Speaker 1: to watch for it.

581
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Speaker 3: So so you I think that you're out on the Browns,

582
00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:58,399
Speaker 3: but I'm wondering how out you are in the Browns.

583
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Speaker 2: We talked about them with the Super Bowl A sleep.

584
00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:02,800
Speaker 3: Browns are plus twenty two hundred to win the Super

585
00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:04,919
Speaker 3: Bowl right now, so they're falling. They're only three and

586
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:07,640
Speaker 3: three now, although the three losses have been to three

587
00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:10,960
Speaker 3: very good teams, to three other potential super Bowl contenders.

588
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:14,560
Speaker 3: So I know you're worried about the injuries and where

589
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:17,080
Speaker 3: the season is heading. Are you out on the Browns?

590
00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:18,440
Speaker 3: Are you on to wait and see? What are you

591
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:19,200
Speaker 3: thinking about them?

592
00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:21,720
Speaker 1: I'm out on them to win the super Bowl at

593
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:26,000
Speaker 1: this point. I just think for me, I think one

594
00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:28,520
Speaker 1: of the best, one of the best paths to win

595
00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:30,880
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl is to win your division and get

596
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:33,560
Speaker 1: that buy and get those home games. And this is

597
00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:37,760
Speaker 1: a banged up team right now. They have Denver next week,

598
00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:42,240
Speaker 1: short week and they're banged up. They got Pittsburgh, which

599
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:46,040
Speaker 1: is always gonna be a tough game, Cincinnati at Cincinnati,

600
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Speaker 1: at New England. This is a stretch where when I

601
00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:52,280
Speaker 1: when I looked at the schedule earlier in the year,

602
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:54,000
Speaker 1: like I felt like this was a good stretch for them,

603
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,840
Speaker 1: But this is not an easy stretch. So and you

604
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Speaker 1: still they still got played Baltimore twice, They got to

605
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:02,080
Speaker 1: play Vegas, Raiders, are going to play at Green Bay.

606
00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:05,600
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if they can recover, especially if they're

607
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:06,120
Speaker 1: not healthy.

608
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:09,040
Speaker 3: I'm not willing to give up on the Browns, but

609
00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:11,520
Speaker 3: I also don't know. I can't put them as a

610
00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:13,640
Speaker 3: super Bowl team right now because of the way Baker

611
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:14,600
Speaker 3: Mayfield is playing.

612
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Speaker 2: And I look, I just talked about.

613
00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:18,760
Speaker 3: Him on our last podcast as a long shot MVP,

614
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:20,680
Speaker 3: so let's be honest with myself on that.

615
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 2: But he's not playing like one right now. He didn't

616
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:23,720
Speaker 2: play like one today.

617
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:27,120
Speaker 3: He's clearly not healthy, and there's no chance that they

618
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:29,880
Speaker 3: are gonna be anything like a super Bowl contender without

619
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Speaker 3: the Baker that we saw the second half of last season.

620
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:35,160
Speaker 3: I'm not out on the Browns entirely for the season,

621
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Speaker 3: though not necessarily as champions, but I do think this

622
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 3: upcoming stretch is winnable. This Denver game on Thursday is tricky,

623
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Speaker 3: but Denver is in the tailspin of their own right now,

624
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:48,160
Speaker 3: and it's a home game for Cleveland. So if you

625
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:51,800
Speaker 3: can get through that one home against Pittsburgh, both winnable

626
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:55,080
Speaker 3: games at Cincinnati and New England both winnable, and then

627
00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:59,120
Speaker 3: the Lions, that's five very winnable games that the Browns

628
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:01,720
Speaker 3: probably will be favorite in all five of those. So

629
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:04,160
Speaker 3: even if you lose one, you get back to seven

630
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:06,680
Speaker 3: and four, and that's when you get the weird stretch

631
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Speaker 3: they play the Ravens and then up bye week and

632
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:11,240
Speaker 3: then the Ravens again, so they have two Ravens games

633
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Speaker 3: in a row. I don't know if I've ever seen

634
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:16,720
Speaker 3: that on the schedule before, and I still don't mind

635
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:17,200
Speaker 3: the way.

636
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:19,200
Speaker 2: This team matches up with the Ravens.

637
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:21,800
Speaker 3: So I don't know if I'm willing to go Super

638
00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:24,400
Speaker 3: Bowl odds, but I am looking at Browns plus four

639
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:27,320
Speaker 3: hundred to win the division because if they can get

640
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:30,080
Speaker 3: through this little stretch and get to those Baltimore games,

641
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:33,240
Speaker 3: then you just you know, that's the stretch that's where

642
00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:35,880
Speaker 3: you can flip it. And I am kind of on

643
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:38,480
Speaker 3: a by low on the Browns and a cell high

644
00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:41,400
Speaker 3: on the Ravens. So let's use that to transition into

645
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:43,160
Speaker 3: the Ravens game. Because that was our other big game

646
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:46,440
Speaker 3: that we thought would be another marquee today and same thing.

647
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:49,240
Speaker 3: It was a huge dud. The Ravens played the Chargers.

648
00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:51,320
Speaker 3: That was our early game that we were supposed to

649
00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:54,680
Speaker 3: get excited about, and it was over immediately, just like

650
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:58,600
Speaker 3: the Browns Cardinals game was Ravens won thirty four to six,

651
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:01,880
Speaker 3: nearly shut them out. The Chargers just never got going.

652
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:04,400
Speaker 3: So was this similar to the other game. Did you

653
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:07,520
Speaker 3: feel like the Ravens impressed with the blowout that the

654
00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:08,520
Speaker 3: Chargers lay an egg?

655
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:09,960
Speaker 2: What's your thoughts on the one.

656
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:13,320
Speaker 1: I felt like it said a lot more about the Ravens.

657
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:17,280
Speaker 1: I think we spoken about the Chargers their struggles in

658
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:21,040
Speaker 1: early down success rates and how they were like living

659
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 1: on third and fourth down, and I think all of

660
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:26,280
Speaker 1: that came to a head here. I think the most

661
00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:30,200
Speaker 1: surprising thing is how dominant Baltimore was offensively. I felt

662
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:33,800
Speaker 1: like they got whatever they wanted, so they won the

663
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 1: yards around twenty seven to two hundred and eight. The

664
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:38,080
Speaker 1: yards supposed to be four point eight to three point

665
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:41,760
Speaker 1: nine third downs, they dominated rushing yards wound eighty seven

666
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:44,840
Speaker 1: to twenty six. We spoke about how the Chargers struggled

667
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:47,560
Speaker 1: to stop the run and the Ravens were able to

668
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:49,720
Speaker 1: do that, and I just think it was a huge

669
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 1: statement game for this Ravens team, and it said a

670
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:56,960
Speaker 1: lot about the regression for this Chargers team that we

671
00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:59,760
Speaker 1: all knew was coming at some point. At some point,

672
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,440
Speaker 1: you're not going to convert every single third down. It

673
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:05,200
Speaker 1: was just three for twelve the day on third down.

674
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:08,160
Speaker 1: It just had to come. The Chickens had to come

675
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:12,240
Speaker 1: home the Wools. They were seven of eight on fourth

676
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:15,000
Speaker 1: down and the one thiss was was a fake punt,

677
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:19,400
Speaker 1: and seven and eight of those fourth down conversion led

678
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 1: to a touchdown. So I think they finally they finally

679
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:26,080
Speaker 1: rested to me here and we started to see some

680
00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:27,680
Speaker 1: of the issues with the Chargers team.

681
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:31,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, the Ravens ran thirty eight times for one hundred

682
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:33,720
Speaker 3: and eighty seven yards and three touchdowns. I'm a little

683
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:36,200
Speaker 3: upset with myself because I was on the Chargers side

684
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:37,680
Speaker 3: on this one and.

685
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:40,320
Speaker 2: A week ago I was not. A week ago.

686
00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:43,400
Speaker 3: I had already warned everyone away from the Chargers that

687
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:44,920
Speaker 3: this two weeks was going to be a really off

688
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 3: stretch against the Browns and then against the Ravens, because

689
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 3: it looked like just very much the wrong matchup the

690
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 3: two run heaviest teams in the league, Browns and the Ravens,

691
00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 3: that I thought, well, they're just going to run it

692
00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:58,360
Speaker 3: down the Chargers' throat. We know the run defense is bad,

693
00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:00,680
Speaker 3: the whole defense is set up to not be good

694
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:02,720
Speaker 3: at the run and take away the pass. And then

695
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:05,680
Speaker 3: on more research this week and seeing, hey, you know,

696
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:07,640
Speaker 3: the Ravens run game is not as good as it

697
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:10,640
Speaker 3: has been, and actually Lamar Jackson's been winning with the pass,

698
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:14,800
Speaker 3: and so I kind of changed my tune and thought, well,

699
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:16,720
Speaker 3: if the run game was not going to be so good,

700
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:20,120
Speaker 3: then you know, maybe the Chargers take away that Lamar

701
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 3: Jackson deep pass.

702
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:22,560
Speaker 2: Which I mean, I guess they did.

703
00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 3: They didn't really have to bother with it because they're

704
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:26,960
Speaker 3: just getting anything they wanted on the ground. That's the

705
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:30,280
Speaker 3: problem is if you play a team that can run

706
00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:33,520
Speaker 3: that much and that easily, you know the ball. So

707
00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:36,440
Speaker 3: the Chargers only had twenty two minutes of possession in

708
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:39,720
Speaker 3: this game. I don't know that their offense was horrible.

709
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:43,000
Speaker 3: Certainly wasn't good. I mean, the only touchdown they had

710
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:46,320
Speaker 3: came because of a really bad Lamar Jackson interception that

711
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 3: basically set them up.

712
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:48,160
Speaker 2: But that's it.

713
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 3: Six points, And I don't know, I'm not too worried

714
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:53,120
Speaker 3: about the offense on this one. They just didn't get

715
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:55,000
Speaker 3: a ton of chances. Davis he didn't convert when they

716
00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:58,040
Speaker 3: had them, but they just didn't. The defense couldn't get

717
00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:02,479
Speaker 3: off the field here. And I will say, though I

718
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:07,600
Speaker 3: am not worried about the Chargers large scale, this just

719
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:10,440
Speaker 3: is the wrong matchup to me that this was the

720
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:13,719
Speaker 3: exact wrong team. You know, this was the thing I

721
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:15,839
Speaker 3: thought was going to happen these two weeks, but then

722
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:17,759
Speaker 3: it didn't. Last week it was it was for a

723
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:21,280
Speaker 3: while the Chargers, you know, we're getting kind of beaten

724
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:23,280
Speaker 3: by the Browns, but then have the big comeback.

725
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:25,279
Speaker 2: And I think the other thing we saw in this game.

726
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:26,399
Speaker 2: You mentioned the fourth down.

727
00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:29,520
Speaker 3: You know Staley's been going for those all year, fourth

728
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:33,400
Speaker 3: and one on their own nineteen in the first possession

729
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 3: of the second half, down eighteen points, they go for it.

730
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:38,640
Speaker 2: That's like the exact same thing as last week.

731
00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:41,400
Speaker 3: They were down two scores early in the second half,

732
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:43,959
Speaker 3: they went for it, and then they got that one

733
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:46,520
Speaker 3: galvanize the team. They go down, they get the touchdown,

734
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:48,759
Speaker 3: they win. This is the other side of the coin.

735
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:52,760
Speaker 3: I think that Staley knew that this was a possible outcome.

736
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:55,719
Speaker 3: If you're gonna go for this many fourth downs and

737
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:58,359
Speaker 3: you're gonna, you know, risk it for the biscuit per se,

738
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:01,399
Speaker 3: you're gonna have some of the and I think it's

739
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 3: it would have been the wrong decision to just say, well,

740
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 3: we're not picking them up this game, We're not converting.

741
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:09,400
Speaker 3: I guess let's just punt. No, this is who the

742
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:13,239
Speaker 3: Chargers are. And some days, if you're gonna go for

743
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:15,400
Speaker 3: all these fourth downs and you're gonna go for it

744
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:17,759
Speaker 3: on your own twenty and thirty, you're gonna miss some

745
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:20,640
Speaker 3: of them. And your team has to know that's your identity.

746
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:23,759
Speaker 3: If we're gonna be willing to go for it and

747
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:26,120
Speaker 3: get those first downs, we got to be willing to

748
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:30,560
Speaker 3: lose thirty four to six because the Ravens offense, you know,

749
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:32,880
Speaker 3: it wasn't like they're ripping off these huge plays. They

750
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 3: just kept getting the ball in such good field position

751
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:37,880
Speaker 3: because Chargers turn it over because they were trying to

752
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:40,960
Speaker 3: win the game. So I don't mind it. I'm not

753
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:43,839
Speaker 3: so worried. You know, the Chargers twice in their own

754
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:46,360
Speaker 3: half of the field went for fourth down and got stopped,

755
00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 3: only cost them six points. The Ravens got two field

756
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:52,319
Speaker 3: goals out of it, so we've seen the upside. If

757
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:54,480
Speaker 3: the downside is six points in a game like this,

758
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:57,440
Speaker 3: I don't mind it. This to me is not a

759
00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:00,239
Speaker 3: sign that the Chargers are flawed or anything else. This

760
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:02,400
Speaker 3: is just a bad matchup and a game where everything

761
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 3: went wrong for them.

762
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:05,600
Speaker 1: I got to push back on that. It's so funny

763
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 1: because last week we were on totally opposite ends of

764
00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:10,839
Speaker 1: the spectrum when it came to this. Like I think

765
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:13,840
Speaker 1: last week I was saying, how when you have to

766
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:17,400
Speaker 1: stop a team on four downs, it's tough. But one

767
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 1: of the things I had to sit down and realize

768
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:23,040
Speaker 1: is that this early down success rate, it's actually predictive

769
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 1: of how teams do. I mean, this team is just

770
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:30,680
Speaker 1: twenty four and early down success rate, you're twenty fifth

771
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:34,760
Speaker 1: and drop back EPA at some point if you can't

772
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:38,320
Speaker 1: do these things, if you can't find ways to generate

773
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:41,880
Speaker 1: offense on first and second down and you're constantly in

774
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:45,319
Speaker 1: third and longs, this is a solid team. But I

775
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:47,920
Speaker 1: just think they needed they got to figure out the

776
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:49,000
Speaker 1: offense a little bit more.

777
00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:53,160
Speaker 3: So I don't disagree with that, but definitely they need

778
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:54,759
Speaker 3: to do a little better. They need to do a

779
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:56,959
Speaker 3: lot better and first and second down. We've been saying

780
00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:59,479
Speaker 3: that for a few weeks already, and I haven't moved

781
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 3: off of that position. Just they need to do better

782
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 3: on those downs. But you know, sometimes they're not going

783
00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:07,640
Speaker 3: to convert those third and fourth downs, and I'm not

784
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:09,839
Speaker 3: willing to jump off the bridge the other way when

785
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:11,840
Speaker 3: we're when we've been all in so much on the

786
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:14,120
Speaker 3: one side, this is just the other side of the coin.

787
00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 2: If you're gonna be that aggressive.

788
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:18,719
Speaker 3: I think of there's the I can't think of his name,

789
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:21,200
Speaker 3: the coach in college football that never punts, that just

790
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:23,640
Speaker 3: always goes for a fourth down, and I think it's

791
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:26,399
Speaker 3: at Presbyterian now, and some of those games his team

792
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:29,279
Speaker 3: puts up sixty seventy eighty points. Some games he gives

793
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:31,400
Speaker 3: up them many points, because if you go for it

794
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:34,839
Speaker 3: and don't punt from your own fifteen, then you put

795
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:37,239
Speaker 3: your tire defense right back on the field and then

796
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:40,239
Speaker 3: get back out there and try again. So to me,

797
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 3: I'm just saying, this is a team culture game. For me,

798
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:46,960
Speaker 3: this is a Staley's gonna go stand in front of

799
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:49,319
Speaker 3: the mics and take it and say we were the

800
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:49,919
Speaker 3: worst team.

801
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 2: We got beat.

802
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:54,839
Speaker 3: We lost big time today, and it's my decisions. I

803
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:57,319
Speaker 3: went for the fourth downs and we didn't get it,

804
00:37:57,640 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 3: and the team has to convert better. They got it,

805
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:02,080
Speaker 3: get in a better position and hopefully not get into

806
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:04,680
Speaker 3: those fourth downs. But I think it's a win for

807
00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:07,040
Speaker 3: the team culture because they stuck to what they do

808
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:09,520
Speaker 3: and what they do has been working, and just because

809
00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 3: it didn't work for one day, to me, doesn't mean

810
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:14,279
Speaker 3: you throw it out. I want to talk about the

811
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:17,680
Speaker 3: Ravens a little bit because I am really underwhelmed by

812
00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 3: this team. They the defense today very good, but overall

813
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 3: not so convincing, pretty average by DVOA measures. The run

814
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:30,320
Speaker 3: game has not been that great outside of today. The

815
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:33,600
Speaker 3: Ravens lost in their first game and then one to

816
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:34,320
Speaker 3: five straight.

817
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:35,680
Speaker 2: Very weird season.

818
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:40,719
Speaker 3: The Ravens, Packers, Cowboys, and possibly the Bills on to

819
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:43,239
Speaker 3: one to start the year, and then five straight since then.

820
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:47,120
Speaker 3: So Week one really threw things off the scent. But

821
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:51,480
Speaker 3: the Ravens just aren't really impressing. They're starting slowly in games.

822
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:54,000
Speaker 3: I'm not in on this team at five and one.

823
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:55,600
Speaker 3: I do think they're going to make the playoffs, but

824
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:58,160
Speaker 3: they seem kind of like what Bill Simmons used to call,

825
00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:01,880
Speaker 3: like the good bad team that like they To me,

826
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 3: it's Lamar Jackson and smoking mirrors, and Lamar is doing enough.

827
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:07,880
Speaker 3: But it reminds me a little bit of the Seahawks

828
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:10,680
Speaker 3: from a year ago, where we had a quarterback doing

829
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:13,160
Speaker 3: absolutely everything for the first half of the year and

830
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:16,279
Speaker 3: then when that ran out of working, then things kind

831
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:17,960
Speaker 3: of fell apart toward the end when the rest of

832
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:20,640
Speaker 3: the machine wasn't that good. So are you in on

833
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:22,319
Speaker 3: the Ravens? Are you believing in this five and one

834
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:22,920
Speaker 3: team in THEFC?

835
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:24,719
Speaker 1: I do feel like I need to see more? What

836
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:27,480
Speaker 1: do you I mean, what do you make of a defense?

837
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:30,040
Speaker 1: I mean, this Ravens defens was twenty eighth rinked in

838
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:32,919
Speaker 1: past defense and it held justin Herbert to one hundred

839
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:35,399
Speaker 1: and ninety five years past. So it's like, is this

840
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:38,960
Speaker 1: how do you mark this on it? Like? Yeah, I

841
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:42,560
Speaker 1: subscribe to the Darryl Mourray philosophy. Every game is a

842
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:45,120
Speaker 1: data point, So like, what does this data point do

843
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:45,480
Speaker 1: for you?

844
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:48,040
Speaker 3: I mean it certainly, it's a great data point. Is

845
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:51,239
Speaker 3: easily by far the best data point that Baltimore is

846
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:54,280
Speaker 3: put on there. But what if you flip the schedule?

847
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:57,040
Speaker 3: What if you say this was week one and then

848
00:39:57,160 --> 00:40:00,759
Speaker 3: you'll put everything backwards. Wouldn't we be very Baltimore right

849
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:03,359
Speaker 3: now and saying this is an overrated five and one team.

850
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:05,160
Speaker 3: I know they have that one really good win, but

851
00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:07,040
Speaker 3: what about all the other games? What about when they

852
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:09,399
Speaker 3: almost lost to the Lions. What about when they keep

853
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:13,280
Speaker 3: coming out flat and needing these amazing Lamar Jackson comebacks

854
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:16,040
Speaker 3: in the second half against not very good teams. This

855
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:18,319
Speaker 3: is a data point. It's a very good one. But

856
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:21,080
Speaker 3: I can't use recency bias to just throw out the

857
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:22,920
Speaker 3: other five data points because there's a lot more of

858
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:23,400
Speaker 3: that data.

859
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:27,279
Speaker 1: That's fair. But we do have to remember that they

860
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:30,799
Speaker 1: weren't necessarily healthy. They're actually getting healthier now. Obviously they

861
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:35,680
Speaker 1: got Jimi Smith back, like even like Rasha Bateman is

862
00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:39,400
Speaker 1: finally playing, so it's just like they're just getting healthy everywhere.

863
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:42,400
Speaker 1: So it's just kind of like it's one thing if

864
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:46,200
Speaker 1: this wasn't like football, where like this is the same

865
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:49,320
Speaker 1: team playing every week, but they've been hampered by injuries.

866
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 1: So I guess it remains to be seeing what this

867
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:55,080
Speaker 1: team is because I do think it's concerning that how

868
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:57,440
Speaker 1: easily the Colts carved them up, and I think they

869
00:40:57,560 --> 00:41:00,799
Speaker 1: lose that game if coach don't have their injuries down

870
00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:01,280
Speaker 1: to stretch.

871
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:02,680
Speaker 2: Yeah.

872
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:04,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think your point about the injuries is very fair,

873
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:07,920
Speaker 3: So I take that. Again, I'm not necessarily out on

874
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:10,960
Speaker 3: the Ravens. I'm just definitely not in on the Ravens.

875
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:14,080
Speaker 3: This looks to me like a ten to eleven, twelve

876
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:18,200
Speaker 3: win team that you know, maybe wins a playoff game,

877
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:20,359
Speaker 3: a tough one at home, and then kind of goes

878
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:23,600
Speaker 3: out relatively easy. Like this just looks like a team

879
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:26,800
Speaker 3: that I don't see the ceiling here. Today was the ceiling,

880
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:29,520
Speaker 3: But is there are there four of those games in

881
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:31,359
Speaker 3: a row. I don't know that we're going to see

882
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:34,319
Speaker 3: four those games, And this was the ceiling that again,

883
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:36,920
Speaker 3: as we said, for the Chargers, this was the perfectly

884
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:38,200
Speaker 3: wrong opponent for them.

885
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:39,919
Speaker 2: Then you've got to flip at the other side.

886
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 3: This was the perfect opponent for the Ravens to look

887
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:45,960
Speaker 3: really good too. And so I think the Chiefs are

888
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:48,680
Speaker 3: also a similar opponent to that because of their leaky defense.

889
00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:50,480
Speaker 3: But there are other opponents in the AFC that are

890
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:53,920
Speaker 3: not going to have those same matchup advantages. So I

891
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:57,719
Speaker 3: just don't know that this Ravens team that it's a

892
00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:01,440
Speaker 3: regular season formula to me, you know where we're NBA guys,

893
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:03,239
Speaker 3: where we're starting out in a couple of days here.

894
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:05,759
Speaker 3: This feels to me like what we kind of thought

895
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:08,480
Speaker 3: of the you know, the Milwaukee Bucks before last season

896
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:11,800
Speaker 3: of just like we know the formula, we know it works,

897
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:15,080
Speaker 3: We've seen it year after year. But you know, I

898
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:17,680
Speaker 3: don't know that the formula has been proven to work

899
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 3: enough against enough different opponents. There's not enough versatility here.

900
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:25,479
Speaker 3: So I'm buying them certainly. I think it's a playoff team,

901
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:27,480
Speaker 3: but I don't want to. I don't want to put

902
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:30,960
Speaker 3: my money on Lamar Jackson for MVP because I think

903
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:34,080
Speaker 3: it's bad when you're doing so much of everything. And

904
00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:36,120
Speaker 3: I definitely don't want to put super money on.

905
00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:39,080
Speaker 1: You don't want to put your money on Lamar Jackson

906
00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:40,800
Speaker 1: because he's doing so much of everything.

907
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:44,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, because I if you have to carry so much

908
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:47,480
Speaker 3: of the entire offense, it just doesn't hold up usually,

909
00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:49,640
Speaker 3: like and I don't think Baltimore is going to be

910
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:53,520
Speaker 3: good enough around him because you can't do everything for

911
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:56,280
Speaker 3: all seventeen games. You need some help at some point,

912
00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:58,919
Speaker 3: and I don't know these getting enough help.

913
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:02,839
Speaker 2: So I MVP is an individual award that is part

914
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 2: of a team award.

915
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:05,719
Speaker 3: Your team has to be good enough for you individually

916
00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:07,360
Speaker 3: to win MVP, and I don't think his team is

917
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:09,759
Speaker 3: good enough. But maybe they're getting healthy and maybe they

918
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:10,560
Speaker 3: will be good enough.

919
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:13,719
Speaker 1: I mean, they're five and one right now, and when

920
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:17,120
Speaker 1: you look at the game that they lost, it probably

921
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:19,120
Speaker 1: happened because Lamar Jackson fumbled twice.

922
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:20,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're not wrong.

923
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:22,400
Speaker 1: I don't know if he can count this team that,

924
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:25,680
Speaker 1: especially with Lamar Jackson, he appears to be getting better,

925
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:29,239
Speaker 1: becoming just a pure passer. And when you look at

926
00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:32,120
Speaker 1: the rest of this AFC, the Chiefs don't seem like

927
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:35,440
Speaker 1: they're the same team if they were were previously. So

928
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:38,600
Speaker 1: one of the teams that we were high on in

929
00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:42,320
Speaker 1: the Browns, they're banged up and they're in the same division.

930
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:45,040
Speaker 1: So and then when you look at the AFC South,

931
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:48,279
Speaker 1: the Codes to the Titans, they're not challenging them. So

932
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:51,080
Speaker 1: I think part of it is that we can't look

933
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:52,839
Speaker 1: at these teams in the back. We got to look

934
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:57,520
Speaker 1: at them as collectively, like who are they gonna be

935
00:43:57,520 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 1: playing it? Right now? It looked like the Charges by

936
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:01,480
Speaker 1: to be the best team in AFC.

937
00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:04,760
Speaker 3: It's fair to say that the Chargers certainly look among

938
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:08,760
Speaker 3: the best. This could be a non first round playoff matchup,

939
00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:11,600
Speaker 3: so for Baltimore to dominate a game like this, it

940
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:13,799
Speaker 3: certainly has to be a very strong data point. That's

941
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 3: for sure, So all right, let's whip around the rest

942
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:19,399
Speaker 3: of Sunday action and wrap up Week six. We got

943
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:21,960
Speaker 3: our second and final London game of the year this morning,

944
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:24,960
Speaker 3: as the Jaguars snapped their twenty game losing streak with

945
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:28,000
Speaker 3: the win over the Dolphins. Matthew Wright had fifty four

946
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:30,160
Speaker 3: and fifty three yard field goals in the final minutes

947
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:33,320
Speaker 3: to give Trevor Lawrence his first win. Turns out the

948
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:36,359
Speaker 3: Jaguars are right at home in London. Apparently they seem

949
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:39,319
Speaker 3: to play somewhere a little more urban. Score Gami in

950
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:42,360
Speaker 3: New York as the Rams beat the Giants thirty eight eleven.

951
00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:45,520
Speaker 3: Stafford and Cup had huge games, but the score Gami

952
00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:48,400
Speaker 3: did come at a cost to underbetters. New York had

953
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:51,560
Speaker 3: a garbage touchdown late and cashed in on a meaningless

954
00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:54,160
Speaker 3: two point conversion that was not so meaningless for all

955
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:57,120
Speaker 3: of us. Battle of former three and Ozero teams sent

956
00:44:57,160 --> 00:45:00,560
Speaker 3: the Broncos to three and three, the Raiders four four

957
00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:04,960
Speaker 3: turnovers in a thirty four to twenty four win. Vegas

958
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:09,360
Speaker 3: coach Rich Bisaccia wins his debut and the Raiders shredded

959
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:12,480
Speaker 3: that Denver von to defense. In Denver, they had big

960
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:15,080
Speaker 3: plays of forty eight twenty five, thirty three to thirty one,

961
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:18,080
Speaker 3: twenty nine to forty and fifty one yards On offense,

962
00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:22,040
Speaker 3: pad Mahomes was human again two more interceptions, one of

963
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:25,440
Speaker 3: them absolutely terrible, three sacks, but the Chiefs turned on

964
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:27,920
Speaker 3: the after burners late and ran away with it thirty

965
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:31,759
Speaker 3: one to thirteen over Washington, and Chiefs defense actually shot

966
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:34,040
Speaker 3: up a little bit, held the football team to two

967
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:36,080
Speaker 3: hundred and seventy six yards and kept them out of

968
00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:39,359
Speaker 3: the red zone. The Colts returned home after a three

969
00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:42,839
Speaker 3: game road trip, enrolled on the Texans eight point one

970
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:45,399
Speaker 3: yards of play in a thirty one to three win,

971
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:49,239
Speaker 3: and the Lions remained winless. They couldn't even get on

972
00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:52,360
Speaker 3: a scoreboard until the final ten minutes. The Bengals coast

973
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:54,759
Speaker 3: to a thirty four to eleven win and last, but

974
00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:58,399
Speaker 3: not least in Chicago. The Bears hung around, but Aaron

975
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:00,880
Speaker 3: Rodgers ran in the clinching score in the final minutes,

976
00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:02,200
Speaker 3: then screamed at the.

977
00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:03,239
Speaker 2: Crowd, I own you.

978
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 3: I still own you, and it's hard to argue with

979
00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:09,040
Speaker 3: the results. Rogers is twenty two and five all time

980
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:13,440
Speaker 3: against Chicago. Packers win twenty four to fourteen, but Chicago

981
00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:16,800
Speaker 3: is still the city of champions, as my Chicago Sky

982
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:20,160
Speaker 3: came back down fourteen in the second half to win

983
00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:23,680
Speaker 3: their first ever WNBA championship in front of a rabid

984
00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:27,319
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Speaker 1: Let's get back to the show all right.

1016
00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 3: Monday night, we have the Buffalo Bills, the red scorching

1017
00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:17,040
Speaker 3: Hot Buffalo Bills heading to Tennessee to take on the Titans.

1018
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:20,480
Speaker 3: The Bills are five and a half point underdogs. We've

1019
00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:23,040
Speaker 3: got a high total here, fifty three and a half.

1020
00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:27,279
Speaker 3: We're expecting some points, we're expecting some fireworks. What do

1021
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:28,279
Speaker 3: you make of this game?

1022
00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:30,840
Speaker 1: We're here right now. I don't want to step in

1023
00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:33,880
Speaker 1: front of his billstring, and I think that's the that's

1024
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:37,600
Speaker 1: the bottom line for me. It's we all saw Josh

1025
00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:41,440
Speaker 1: Allen emerge as a top tier quarterback last season, and

1026
00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:44,799
Speaker 1: their defense kind of took a step back this year

1027
00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:48,760
Speaker 1: to actually have a solid defense. And I can't step

1028
00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:50,200
Speaker 1: in front of that. Like there was a period of

1029
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:53,560
Speaker 1: time where I felt like I would play the Titans

1030
00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:57,000
Speaker 1: in this spot with the Bills actually coming off that

1031
00:48:57,120 --> 00:49:00,839
Speaker 1: huge win against the Chiefs, but this is not a

1032
00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 1: defense that I like. I don't want to back this

1033
00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:08,000
Speaker 1: Titans defense like at all. And so for me, I'm

1034
00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:11,520
Speaker 1: kind of looking at Buffalo on teasers. I'm looking to

1035
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:15,120
Speaker 1: lay to five and a half. I do think they're

1036
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:19,480
Speaker 1: charging you a premium oning, obviously because they come off

1037
00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:22,440
Speaker 1: a big win. But this is a defense, It's a

1038
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:25,880
Speaker 1: Titans defense that's twenty second in EPA for play. I

1039
00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:28,360
Speaker 1: don't know if this is the spot to be fading Buffalo.

1040
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:30,120
Speaker 1: What's your thoughts on this game.

1041
00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:32,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, the Titans are three and two and leading the

1042
00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:35,760
Speaker 3: division comfortably for now. But this is not a good team.

1043
00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:39,400
Speaker 3: Like you said, their defense has been terrible. They're Titans

1044
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:42,480
Speaker 3: are number twenty six in DVOA overall as a team.

1045
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:45,520
Speaker 3: The defense is number twenty seven. They've not been good

1046
00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:48,719
Speaker 3: on run or pass defense. They haven't been passing the ball.

1047
00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:51,880
Speaker 3: Ryan Tannehill has lost his mojo. I think his mojo's

1048
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:54,120
Speaker 3: name was Arthur Smith and he's gone now.

1049
00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:56,240
Speaker 2: So Titans passing has been bad.

1050
00:49:56,600 --> 00:49:58,800
Speaker 3: That's bad news if you get behind on this Buffalo

1051
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:00,799
Speaker 3: team and the way that they're passing, rush is coming

1052
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:03,840
Speaker 3: home and their defense that is lit up in every

1053
00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:06,359
Speaker 3: area of the field. Like the only thing going right

1054
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:09,560
Speaker 3: for Tennessee right now is Derrick Henry. But even that

1055
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:12,560
Speaker 3: usually happens in the second half of the game. The

1056
00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:15,160
Speaker 3: Titans have been getting buried early in first halfs and

1057
00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:18,799
Speaker 3: then eventually Henry's wearing teams down. Even one of those

1058
00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:21,600
Speaker 3: wins was that really wonky game against Seattle, like every

1059
00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:24,960
Speaker 3: Seattle game, but Henry had the huge second half and

1060
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:27,520
Speaker 3: a huge game. I don't know if the Bills are

1061
00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:29,640
Speaker 3: going to allow Henry to do that or to hang

1062
00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:32,719
Speaker 3: around against Buffalo is year the leader running back from

1063
00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:36,960
Speaker 3: the opponent forty five yards, twenty five, thirty one, twenty four,

1064
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:39,000
Speaker 3: and twenty seven. It's not going to get the job

1065
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:41,319
Speaker 3: done if Derrick Henry, He's going to have to have

1066
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:44,440
Speaker 3: all five of those together if the Titans want to

1067
00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:47,560
Speaker 3: have any chance in this one. So here's my question

1068
00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:50,560
Speaker 3: for you. The Bills are five and a half point favorites.

1069
00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:55,200
Speaker 3: On Sunday. We saw every one of those huge favorites

1070
00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:58,200
Speaker 3: come home, All the public favorites came home, all the

1071
00:50:58,239 --> 00:51:02,240
Speaker 3: teaser legs hit Vegas got crushed on Sunday.

1072
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:05,239
Speaker 2: This is the trappiest trap that I've ever seen.

1073
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:08,760
Speaker 3: On Monday night, it's everyone's final leg in their teaser.

1074
00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:12,920
Speaker 3: Everyone is just flush with money after they just want everything.

1075
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:17,160
Speaker 3: On Sunday, they're feeling great. Does that as a professional better?

1076
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:19,600
Speaker 3: Does that give you any pause? Or is that just

1077
00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:20,640
Speaker 3: overthinking the angle?

1078
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:23,640
Speaker 1: I do think it gives you some palls, obviously. I

1079
00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:26,400
Speaker 1: think it gives you some balls that they came off

1080
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:30,600
Speaker 1: this high profile win against the Chiefs. So for me,

1081
00:51:31,239 --> 00:51:33,239
Speaker 1: this is a spot that I'm kind of looking at

1082
00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:37,520
Speaker 1: like as much as I like Buffalo, and I if

1083
00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:39,160
Speaker 1: I'm going to be playing this game, I'm probably gonna

1084
00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:43,000
Speaker 1: be playing Tennessee or pass. And for me, I don't

1085
00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:44,959
Speaker 1: want to back to Tennessee, So I'm looking to pass

1086
00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:47,440
Speaker 1: on this game because it just feels like one of

1087
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:49,520
Speaker 1: those spots where they're going to make you pay a

1088
00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:50,720
Speaker 1: premium to back Buffalo.

1089
00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:53,839
Speaker 2: So a couple action lab numbers. I feel the same

1090
00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:54,279
Speaker 2: way as you.

1091
00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:58,880
Speaker 3: It feels so trappy that everything in me sees the matchup,

1092
00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:01,200
Speaker 3: sees everything on page and on the field, and this

1093
00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:04,319
Speaker 3: just looks like a Bill's like steamroll, Like the Bills

1094
00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:07,720
Speaker 3: should win by two three touchdowns in this matchup. Titans

1095
00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:10,480
Speaker 3: are not playing good football right now, but if you

1096
00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:12,839
Speaker 3: you know that it's so trappy. But a few action

1097
00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:16,239
Speaker 3: lab things I do like here, first thing, road favorites

1098
00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:19,000
Speaker 3: on Monday Night Football of three to seven points, so

1099
00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:22,120
Speaker 3: that's the Bills. Road favorites like that are forty three

1100
00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:24,840
Speaker 3: and twenty seven against the spread, so sixty one percent,

1101
00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:28,160
Speaker 3: and they're covering by four point seven points, so that'd

1102
00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:30,240
Speaker 3: be a Bill's win by about ten points. That's basically

1103
00:52:30,239 --> 00:52:32,759
Speaker 3: what we're expecting this game. So that's a good sign

1104
00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:36,520
Speaker 3: in our favor. Also, primetime games, you're looking at the

1105
00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:39,520
Speaker 3: two quarterbacks in this game, Josh Allen and Ryan Tannehill.

1106
00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:43,720
Speaker 3: Ryan Tannehill is three and ten against the spread lifetime

1107
00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:47,600
Speaker 3: in primetime games. That is horrendous twenty three percent cover rate.

1108
00:52:48,080 --> 00:52:50,960
Speaker 3: Josh Allen is five and a one in primetime games

1109
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:55,000
Speaker 3: ats and that one loss is counting a Tuesday night

1110
00:52:55,040 --> 00:52:57,239
Speaker 3: a year ago. Do you remember who the Bills were

1111
00:52:57,239 --> 00:52:58,880
Speaker 3: playing on a Tuesday night when they lost.

1112
00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:02,399
Speaker 1: They were playing Titans. Obviously, the Titans had came off

1113
00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:06,160
Speaker 1: the little COVID outbreak and actually through. It's so funny

1114
00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:09,400
Speaker 1: because I think they actually played the Chiefs either the

1115
00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:12,560
Speaker 1: week before or the week after, and it actually threw

1116
00:53:12,640 --> 00:53:14,760
Speaker 1: off the Bills whole schedule.

1117
00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:15,759
Speaker 2: Yeah it did.

1118
00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:19,279
Speaker 1: So I think I'm pretty sure this team remembers that.

1119
00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:22,319
Speaker 3: I think that they do too, And that's why I

1120
00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:26,360
Speaker 3: am willing to back the Bills because that's Josh Allen's

1121
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:30,400
Speaker 3: only nighttime game that he lost and lost against the spread.

1122
00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:34,200
Speaker 3: And I agree this to me, this Buffalo team that's

1123
00:53:34,239 --> 00:53:36,520
Speaker 3: the exact sort of team that remembers a game like that.

1124
00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:39,280
Speaker 3: They remember they've had this one circle on their calendar.

1125
00:53:39,840 --> 00:53:41,920
Speaker 3: Like I know, last week against the Chiefs, that was

1126
00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:45,240
Speaker 3: a big emotional game, and this profiles as an emotional

1127
00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:46,160
Speaker 3: letdown spot.

1128
00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:47,720
Speaker 2: This is not a game.

1129
00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:49,880
Speaker 3: That the Bills are overlooking, I think because of that game.

1130
00:53:50,320 --> 00:53:54,000
Speaker 3: So with Tannehills so bad in night games, with Allan

1131
00:53:54,120 --> 00:53:56,400
Speaker 3: so good in them, the way that the road favorites go,

1132
00:53:57,000 --> 00:54:00,640
Speaker 3: I'm willing to back the Bills here. It feels so trappy.

1133
00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:02,880
Speaker 3: I feel like I'm being lured in. But hey, I

1134
00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:04,680
Speaker 3: did it for most of the games on Sunday and

1135
00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:06,320
Speaker 3: it worked out for me too, So I'm just gonna

1136
00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:07,879
Speaker 3: keep riding Captain Public here.

1137
00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:10,560
Speaker 2: I will take the Bills. Are you betting the Titans?

1138
00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:12,040
Speaker 2: Are you just gonna stay away from this one?

1139
00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:15,040
Speaker 1: I'm not becking the Titans at all. I think if

1140
00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:18,600
Speaker 1: I'm like in a spot like this, this is the

1141
00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:20,680
Speaker 1: spot to where I be looking towards the Titans. But

1142
00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:22,520
Speaker 1: when I break down the game, like you said before,

1143
00:54:23,040 --> 00:54:27,040
Speaker 1: the Bills are the team that you should dominate this game,

1144
00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:28,400
Speaker 1: So this is a completely stay away from me.

1145
00:54:28,719 --> 00:54:31,120
Speaker 3: All right, Well, let's hit our Week seven hot read

1146
00:54:31,200 --> 00:54:33,480
Speaker 3: and get a few early winners on the board here

1147
00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:39,000
Speaker 3: before we get out of here, Hot Rock, Ice.

1148
00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:43,520
Speaker 1: Rights, Ice Cream nineteen, Sound nineteen.

1149
00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:48,680
Speaker 3: I'm gonna start off with another Titans read here because

1150
00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:51,320
Speaker 3: the Kansas City Chiefs are playing the Titans next week.

1151
00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:53,840
Speaker 3: I told you guys on Friday in the look ahead

1152
00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:56,799
Speaker 3: segment to beat the Chiefs. The Chiefs went out and

1153
00:54:56,960 --> 00:55:01,200
Speaker 3: wan huge today and beat up on Wash and the

1154
00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:02,280
Speaker 3: line didn't really budge.

1155
00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:03,399
Speaker 2: It's still at about four.

1156
00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:04,920
Speaker 3: I've still seen you at three and a half on

1157
00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:08,160
Speaker 3: some books in Tennessee next week. Look, it's all the

1158
00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:11,080
Speaker 3: same logic that we've just been talking about. The Titans

1159
00:55:11,120 --> 00:55:14,600
Speaker 3: defense is very bad. The Chiefs defense is bad too.

1160
00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:16,640
Speaker 3: But if both defenses are bad, just like in the

1161
00:55:16,680 --> 00:55:19,880
Speaker 3: Chiefs Washington game, then you pick the offense that's better.

1162
00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:22,480
Speaker 3: Guess which offense is better. It's the one of Patrick Mahomes.

1163
00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:26,600
Speaker 3: So especially, you want to grab this line. If you

1164
00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:29,320
Speaker 3: like it, you want to grab it on Monday, because

1165
00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:32,640
Speaker 3: if Tennessee beats the Bills, I don't know that the

1166
00:55:32,680 --> 00:55:35,279
Speaker 3: line moves that much. Maybe you do move it past

1167
00:55:35,080 --> 00:55:38,200
Speaker 3: the key number of three. Maybe, I'm not sure if

1168
00:55:38,239 --> 00:55:40,160
Speaker 3: it does. But it's not like the Titans are going

1169
00:55:40,239 --> 00:55:43,440
Speaker 3: to suddenly be favored against Patrick Mahomes. But there's a

1170
00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:46,160
Speaker 3: lot better chance that the Bills do what we said

1171
00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:48,319
Speaker 3: they're going to do and blow out the Titans. And

1172
00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:50,480
Speaker 3: if they do and the Titans suddenly look exposed the

1173
00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:53,120
Speaker 3: way the numbers are exposing them suddenly, or this line

1174
00:55:53,160 --> 00:55:55,200
Speaker 3: goes to six, goes to seven, you lose a lot

1175
00:55:55,200 --> 00:55:58,120
Speaker 3: of value here. So I think that actually the Chiefs

1176
00:55:58,120 --> 00:56:00,920
Speaker 3: have moved to being a little bit undervalue. You'd still

1177
00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:02,880
Speaker 3: in a game against a good team. I'm gonna be

1178
00:56:03,120 --> 00:56:05,879
Speaker 3: guessing twice about them. Titans are not a good team.

1179
00:56:05,960 --> 00:56:09,719
Speaker 3: This is a terrible defense. The Titans have beaten the

1180
00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:11,879
Speaker 3: Chiefs a few times, but by like a point two

1181
00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:15,279
Speaker 3: point three points. So the Chiefs are going to take

1182
00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:17,160
Speaker 3: care of business. I'm gonna go ahead and grab them

1183
00:56:17,200 --> 00:56:18,600
Speaker 3: before this line balloons.

1184
00:56:19,480 --> 00:56:20,960
Speaker 1: I'm not mad at that. I'm not mad at that

1185
00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:24,279
Speaker 1: at all. For me, I already mentioned this before. I

1186
00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:26,879
Speaker 1: like the Denver Broncos plus five. I think I gave

1187
00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:30,040
Speaker 1: this out on Friday at plus six, but I still

1188
00:56:30,120 --> 00:56:33,960
Speaker 1: like it here. Like when you look at the Cleveland Browns,

1189
00:56:34,239 --> 00:56:37,600
Speaker 1: they're banged up. They were without both of their starting shackles,

1190
00:56:37,600 --> 00:56:41,439
Speaker 1: and Jock Willis and Jack Conklin. Now you got Nick

1191
00:56:41,520 --> 00:56:45,160
Speaker 1: Chubb banged up. Jarvis Landry has been out, Kareem Hunt

1192
00:56:45,239 --> 00:56:49,000
Speaker 1: is definitely gonna miss next week's game. Baker Mayfield is hurt.

1193
00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:51,960
Speaker 1: Now you got Odell Beckham banged up. This is a

1194
00:56:52,040 --> 00:56:54,600
Speaker 1: short week, even though they're at home, and you kind

1195
00:56:54,600 --> 00:56:56,640
Speaker 1: of want to be looking towards these home teams a

1196
00:56:56,680 --> 00:56:59,560
Speaker 1: lot of times in these Thursday night games. The Broncos

1197
00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:03,239
Speaker 1: just got dominated by a divisional opponent going on the road,

1198
00:57:03,320 --> 00:57:05,439
Speaker 1: so I think there's gonna ben extra level of focus there.

1199
00:57:05,640 --> 00:57:08,040
Speaker 1: I just think this is too many points against a

1200
00:57:08,120 --> 00:57:11,200
Speaker 1: banged up Browns team. I know that the Broncos are

1201
00:57:11,239 --> 00:57:13,520
Speaker 1: in the a tail spin of their own, but I

1202
00:57:13,600 --> 00:57:15,640
Speaker 1: think this is this, this is the spot, this is

1203
00:57:15,640 --> 00:57:17,480
Speaker 1: their season right here. So I got a back to

1204
00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:18,200
Speaker 1: Broncos here.

1205
00:57:18,600 --> 00:57:20,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know what to make of this Thursday

1206
00:57:20,080 --> 00:57:21,240
Speaker 3: game yet. I think I'm gonna have to wait and

1207
00:57:21,240 --> 00:57:23,520
Speaker 3: see kind of where the injury report comes out. There's

1208
00:57:23,560 --> 00:57:25,800
Speaker 3: so many names banged up on both of these teams

1209
00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:29,360
Speaker 3: right now, and a short week leaves me to believe

1210
00:57:29,400 --> 00:57:32,640
Speaker 3: that there's gonna be you know, these spotty rosters matching

1211
00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:35,720
Speaker 3: up and you know, maybe an ugly low scoring game.

1212
00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:37,440
Speaker 2: So it is a lot of points in that case.

1213
00:57:37,480 --> 00:57:39,680
Speaker 3: So I don't mind taking the points, but I've got

1214
00:57:39,720 --> 00:57:41,600
Speaker 3: to wait and see where that one lands for me.

1215
00:57:42,280 --> 00:57:45,000
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go against a team that we talked about earlier.

1216
00:57:45,320 --> 00:57:48,560
Speaker 3: I'm gonna fade the Ravens. Baltimore is at home. They're

1217
00:57:48,600 --> 00:57:51,440
Speaker 3: big favorites against the Cincinnati Bengals. They're six and a

1218
00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:54,000
Speaker 3: half points favorites right now. I'm gonna take Cincinnati because

1219
00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:56,400
Speaker 3: I think that line is too high. I put this

1220
00:57:56,480 --> 00:58:00,440
Speaker 3: around for myself. Cincinnati came into the weekend number seven

1221
00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:03,920
Speaker 3: and dvoa on defense. The run defense has been very good. Obviously,

1222
00:58:03,920 --> 00:58:06,280
Speaker 3: those numbers are only going to get better after the way.

1223
00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:07,280
Speaker 2: They dominate on Sunday.

1224
00:58:07,800 --> 00:58:10,840
Speaker 3: And I just don't know that the Ravens are dominant

1225
00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:13,760
Speaker 3: enough to be a touchdown favorite against what's been proven

1226
00:58:13,800 --> 00:58:17,600
Speaker 3: to be like a very capable and probably above average

1227
00:58:17,640 --> 00:58:18,760
Speaker 3: at least Bengals team.

1228
00:58:19,040 --> 00:58:20,560
Speaker 2: Jamar Chase has been killing it.

1229
00:58:20,640 --> 00:58:21,960
Speaker 3: I don't know that the Ravens are going to be

1230
00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:25,560
Speaker 3: able to slow him down necessarily. Joe Burrow is playing well.

1231
00:58:25,640 --> 00:58:28,760
Speaker 3: Apparently a throat contusion is not a big deal. The

1232
00:58:28,880 --> 00:58:32,440
Speaker 3: Ravens still underwhelming to me. There are two impressive wins.

1233
00:58:32,840 --> 00:58:35,200
Speaker 3: They had the big win against the Chargers, excellent win,

1234
00:58:35,360 --> 00:58:38,160
Speaker 3: no doubt. But the only other impressive one on the

1235
00:58:38,160 --> 00:58:41,080
Speaker 3: schedule was against the Broncos, and that was mostly due

1236
00:58:41,160 --> 00:58:43,320
Speaker 3: lock in that game. I'm not taking too much away

1237
00:58:43,360 --> 00:58:46,720
Speaker 3: from that one. Baltimore has been slow starters in all

1238
00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:50,120
Speaker 3: their games up until this week. The Bengals have two

1239
00:58:50,120 --> 00:58:52,160
Speaker 3: big wins and they have four games that came down

1240
00:58:52,200 --> 00:58:54,200
Speaker 3: to the field goal. So I don't know that the

1241
00:58:54,240 --> 00:58:56,040
Speaker 3: Bengals are going to go on the road and win

1242
00:58:56,120 --> 00:58:58,760
Speaker 3: in Baltimore. Is Burrow ready for that yet? I don't know,

1243
00:58:59,240 --> 00:59:01,880
Speaker 3: but maybe another field goal loss here. I think the

1244
00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:04,320
Speaker 3: Bengals can be on this one. So I think the

1245
00:59:04,360 --> 00:59:06,760
Speaker 3: line is a little too high, and I won't be

1246
00:59:06,760 --> 00:59:09,160
Speaker 3: surprised that it moves down towards Cincinnati. So I'm gonna

1247
00:59:09,160 --> 00:59:10,920
Speaker 3: grabout six and a half as an underdog.

1248
00:59:11,440 --> 00:59:15,320
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm struggling with to make it make of this

1249
00:59:15,400 --> 00:59:20,720
Speaker 1: game just because Baltimore has just been so dominant, and

1250
00:59:21,120 --> 00:59:23,560
Speaker 1: for me, I'm gonna I'm gonna wait and see how

1251
00:59:23,600 --> 00:59:26,240
Speaker 1: that plays out for me. I think my second game

1252
00:59:26,280 --> 00:59:28,920
Speaker 1: that I'm really looking at and I haven't played it yet,

1253
00:59:28,920 --> 00:59:31,280
Speaker 1: but it's not making any sense to me. You look

1254
00:59:31,320 --> 00:59:34,280
Speaker 1: at the New York Jets on the road in Foxborough

1255
00:59:35,120 --> 00:59:38,040
Speaker 1: against the New England Patriots. It doesn't make sense why

1256
00:59:38,040 --> 00:59:41,080
Speaker 1: this line is six and a half. These two teams

1257
00:59:41,080 --> 00:59:45,600
Speaker 1: played earlier this year and the line was five and

1258
00:59:45,640 --> 00:59:49,720
Speaker 1: a half six, So why is this line six and

1259
00:59:49,720 --> 00:59:53,600
Speaker 1: a half here? With the Patriots being at home and

1260
00:59:53,640 --> 00:59:57,520
Speaker 1: we all know Belichick's record against rookie quarterbacks Zach Wilson

1261
00:59:57,520 --> 01:00:00,760
Speaker 1: has not been good at all. I just I can't

1262
01:00:00,760 --> 01:00:04,000
Speaker 1: make any sense of this. The Jets are dead lass

1263
01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:08,240
Speaker 1: and EPA for play, same with success rate. It's just

1264
01:00:09,720 --> 01:00:12,600
Speaker 1: I expect New England go out there and dominate in

1265
01:00:12,640 --> 01:00:15,160
Speaker 1: the same way that they did previously. So I actually

1266
01:00:15,200 --> 01:00:16,920
Speaker 1: want to do a little bit more digging on this game.

1267
01:00:17,440 --> 01:00:19,360
Speaker 1: I do think the number is eventually going to move,

1268
01:00:19,440 --> 01:00:24,520
Speaker 1: especially with New England coming off a real high profile,

1269
01:00:25,000 --> 01:00:27,680
Speaker 1: close game against the Dallas Cowboys who appear to be

1270
01:00:27,680 --> 01:00:31,160
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl contender, and we all know the Jets

1271
01:00:31,160 --> 01:00:33,160
Speaker 1: are coming off a bus that are kind of forgotten about.

1272
01:00:33,640 --> 01:00:36,640
Speaker 1: But I think New England's probably probably going to be

1273
01:00:36,680 --> 01:00:37,760
Speaker 1: the side here, do you.

1274
01:00:37,920 --> 01:00:39,680
Speaker 3: I mean, as the Jets are coming out of a

1275
01:00:39,720 --> 01:00:41,840
Speaker 3: bye week, do you think that that's being factored under

1276
01:00:41,840 --> 01:00:42,840
Speaker 3: the price a little bit here?

1277
01:00:45,600 --> 01:00:49,320
Speaker 1: I can't fathom why I would, at least in this

1278
01:00:49,400 --> 01:00:52,480
Speaker 1: situation where you had these two teams who played before

1279
01:00:53,040 --> 01:00:56,680
Speaker 1: and the Jets had no answer for anything the pictures

1280
01:00:56,760 --> 01:00:58,440
Speaker 1: are trying to do. So it just it just doesn't

1281
01:00:58,480 --> 01:01:01,320
Speaker 1: make sense from a power rating PERSPECTI but I definitely

1282
01:01:01,320 --> 01:01:02,520
Speaker 1: want to do a little bit more dating.

1283
01:01:03,000 --> 01:01:03,680
Speaker 2: That makes sense.

1284
01:01:04,200 --> 01:01:06,320
Speaker 3: I'm going to give you guys one more here, a

1285
01:01:06,360 --> 01:01:10,480
Speaker 3: bonus third Hot Red pick, and let's get ugly.

1286
01:01:10,720 --> 01:01:12,560
Speaker 2: This one is really ugly.

1287
01:01:13,160 --> 01:01:18,320
Speaker 3: We are going to play the Houston Texans plus seventeen

1288
01:01:18,640 --> 01:01:21,920
Speaker 3: in Arizona next week. The Houston Texans, the team that

1289
01:01:22,000 --> 01:01:24,120
Speaker 3: we all thought might go winless this season, against the

1290
01:01:24,120 --> 01:01:28,400
Speaker 3: team that literally is undefeated. But seventeen points is a

1291
01:01:28,440 --> 01:01:32,040
Speaker 3: lot of points. The line shifted three points already since

1292
01:01:32,080 --> 01:01:35,920
Speaker 3: Sunday morning. And this is just a play the number spot.

1293
01:01:35,960 --> 01:01:38,880
Speaker 3: And I know I play the number in Houston on Sunday.

1294
01:01:38,880 --> 01:01:41,000
Speaker 3: It didn't work. The Texans get blown out of the

1295
01:01:41,000 --> 01:01:44,120
Speaker 3: waters thirty one to three, and that was against the Colts.

1296
01:01:44,120 --> 01:01:46,000
Speaker 3: So the Colts do that what are the Cardinals going

1297
01:01:46,080 --> 01:01:48,800
Speaker 3: to do? This is just playing the numbers and playing,

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Speaker 3: you know, the trends. Here are a few trends so October.

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Speaker 3: Unbeaten teams in October or after who are favored by

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Speaker 3: seventeen or more have never covered the spread in our

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Speaker 3: data base at Action Labs. It's only six games, but

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Speaker 3: they're o and six against the spread in that spot,

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01:02:05,160 --> 01:02:08,040
Speaker 3: failing to cover by over ten points a game. So

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Speaker 3: that's a trend that's going against the Cardinals here. As

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Speaker 3: such huge favorites. We also have teams who lost by

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Speaker 3: seventeen or more, like Houston did, against teams who won

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Speaker 3: by seventeen or more like Arizona just did. Those underdog

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01:02:20,480 --> 01:02:23,480
Speaker 3: teams are ninety six fifty nine to four against the spread,

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Speaker 3: so sixty two percent cover there. And teams with an

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01:02:27,000 --> 01:02:30,600
Speaker 3: average scoring margin of minus fourteen or worse, which of

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01:02:30,640 --> 01:02:33,919
Speaker 3: course the Texans are because they're terrible, are one hundred

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Speaker 3: and seventeen seventy eight and six against the spread. Sixty

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Speaker 3: percent cover, right, So the Texans are bad.

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Speaker 2: We know this.

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Speaker 3: You don't have to be awesome, you just have to

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Speaker 3: not lose by seventeen or more points. Tarad Taylor there's

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Speaker 3: a chance he could be back for this game. He

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Speaker 3: was a huge difference maker for Houston. I still think

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Speaker 3: that this team is more bad than awful, like we

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Speaker 3: thought that they're going to be. I still feel like

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Speaker 3: Arizon is overvalued, especially coming off this huge win this week.

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Speaker 3: It's kind of like a game that they're going to

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Speaker 3: look past, probably with Green Bay and San fran I

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Speaker 3: think coming up next.

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Speaker 2: So I'm gonna grab the points.

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Speaker 3: Seventeen is a lot of points, and it seems like

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Speaker 3: this line might come a little bit back down to

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Speaker 3: earth once things settled down a little bit. It's ugly,

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Speaker 3: it's gross. Give me the Texans plus seventeen, let's go.

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Speaker 1: I like that, especially like the fact that it's a

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Speaker 1: non conference opponent. It doesn't have the meaning of it.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't have that same meaning. So this is the

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01:03:34,840 --> 01:03:37,880
Speaker 1: perfect opportunity for a leadown spot. And the Texans have

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Speaker 1: been pretty competitive outside of a few games here and here.

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Speaker 1: So seventeen is a lot of points, So I'm not

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Speaker 1: mad at it. What do you think about the over

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Speaker 1: in the game.

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Speaker 3: You know, I don't play a lot of totals, so

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Speaker 3: I didn't look at that one, but definitely seems like

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Speaker 3: we're gonna get some points. Certainly, if the Texans cover

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01:03:55,120 --> 01:03:56,840
Speaker 3: the seventeen, I think you'd have to feel a lot

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Speaker 3: better about the over because it's probably not because the

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01:03:59,240 --> 01:04:01,600
Speaker 3: Texans have just shout out the Cardinals in that case,

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01:04:01,640 --> 01:04:03,560
Speaker 3: so you have to assume that means that they're going

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01:04:03,640 --> 01:04:04,320
Speaker 3: to get some points.

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Speaker 2: So what do you think?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like I think a lot of times, like I

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01:04:09,040 --> 01:04:11,880
Speaker 1: tend to look at these things, is correlated. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: we have a spread debt high and the total is

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Speaker 1: only forty eight, like like you're looking at a spread

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Speaker 1: the thirty five percent of the total. So I actually think,

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Speaker 1: like now I sit down and think about it, I

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01:04:24,560 --> 01:04:27,080
Speaker 1: actually think the over might be a good play if

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01:04:27,120 --> 01:04:29,800
Speaker 1: you think the Texans can do anything. I actually I

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01:04:29,840 --> 01:04:33,560
Speaker 1: actually like the over in today's quotes in Texas game,

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01:04:33,600 --> 01:04:36,120
Speaker 1: and that didn't work out for me. But Coaton actually

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01:04:36,120 --> 01:04:37,600
Speaker 1: went out there and put up thirty one points in

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01:04:37,680 --> 01:04:40,240
Speaker 1: their own But it's just the Texans didn't do your job,

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01:04:40,440 --> 01:04:43,080
Speaker 1: and it'll be interesting to see if they could do

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01:04:43,120 --> 01:04:46,880
Speaker 1: anything if they If the Texans covered his number, it's

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Speaker 1: gonna be the game's going over. So I think those

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Speaker 1: are correlated.

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Speaker 2: I like that all right.

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Speaker 3: That is going to wrap it up today at the

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Speaker 3: Action Network Podcast. Make sure to your rate, subscribe, and review.

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Speaker 3: Stucky and a Ray Baun are back Wednesday night with

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01:04:59,680 --> 01:05:02,880
Speaker 3: their NFL six pack betting guide. Raheem and I will

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Speaker 3: be back Friday for our run through the slate and

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Speaker 3: our look ahead segment for Raheem Palmer. I'm Brandon Anderson

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Speaker 3: and this has been the Action Network Podcast.

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Speaker 2: We are on two week seven