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Speaker 3: What shaken Hurdler's My name's Emily Abadi and you are

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Speaker 3: listening to episode ninety four of Hurdle, a wellness focused

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Speaker 3: podcast where I sit down with inspiring individuals to talk

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Speaker 3: like it's probably pretty important to quickly reintroduce myself again,

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Speaker 3: Emily Abadi living in New York for the past nine years.

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Speaker 3: Where does the time go on a day to day basis?

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Speaker 3: I split my time between this podcast and working as

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Speaker 4: Skate all day every day, that's all it was.

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Speaker 3: Were you just on the ground thinking to yourself, what?

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Speaker 4: Oh? I was so sad.

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Speaker 3: It's just that idea that failure doesn't need to be

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Speaker 1: So it just all it did is it helped me

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Speaker 1: all that. You know, I just wanted to like lend

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Speaker 3: Talk to me about what the rehab process looks.

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Speaker 4: Like, the rehab mentally.

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Speaker 3: Well, I guess we have two parts to talk about.

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Speaker 1: my knee isn't doing enough for me. So I start

440
00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:31,359
Speaker 1: asking them to give me like upper body and core

441
00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:34,840
Speaker 1: workouts and stuff like that. And the physical therapists they're

442
00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:38,040
Speaker 1: all my friends, my trainers and stuff. So they start

443
00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:40,680
Speaker 1: making these workouts for me, and they start making them

444
00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:44,600
Speaker 1: really hard because they know, like I'll want hard stuff. Basically,

445
00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:48,600
Speaker 1: I end up building like a vice towards it, Like

446
00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:52,520
Speaker 1: I want to work out. That's like my new thing

447
00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:55,960
Speaker 1: while I can't skate, you know, Right, So I started

448
00:23:56,280 --> 00:24:02,000
Speaker 1: that was keeping me occupy while I wasn't partying and

449
00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:03,560
Speaker 1: skating and stuff like that.

450
00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:06,840
Speaker 3: I think it's really special that you grew so attached

451
00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:08,439
Speaker 3: to it. I think that's a hard thing for a

452
00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:10,320
Speaker 3: lot of people to deal with when they're injured. Right.

453
00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:13,680
Speaker 3: It's like, I'm a big runner, and if you hurt

454
00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:16,800
Speaker 3: your foot or your legs or I mean your body,

455
00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:21,080
Speaker 3: just like in skateboarding, and you can't run. It's so defeating.

456
00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:24,239
Speaker 3: It's like you identified as a skateboarder. I identify as

457
00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:26,360
Speaker 3: a runner. And when you can't do those things, all

458
00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:28,800
Speaker 3: of these questions pop into your head about who it

459
00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:31,159
Speaker 3: is that you really are. And so I get so

460
00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:34,480
Speaker 3: many messages from people, whether it's on social media over email,

461
00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:38,120
Speaker 3: just being like, I am injured and I feel so lost.

462
00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:38,920
Speaker 4: Yeah.

463
00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:42,520
Speaker 3: So you're feeling lost, but you find this purpose almost

464
00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:46,560
Speaker 3: in your rehab, which is magical exactly.

465
00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:47,400
Speaker 4: Yeah.

466
00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:51,160
Speaker 1: So it basically saved me, and little by little because

467
00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:54,520
Speaker 1: I started getting into fitness and you know, taking care

468
00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:58,920
Speaker 1: of myself. Little by little, the steps started lining where

469
00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:03,879
Speaker 1: it was. I started to want to reach my optimal performance.

470
00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:06,879
Speaker 1: You know, I'm here, I'm twenty eight at this point,

471
00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:09,680
Speaker 1: and I'm just like, man, I want to I want

472
00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:11,520
Speaker 1: to be the best I can be at this point

473
00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:14,320
Speaker 1: in my life. You know, how can I reach my

474
00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:15,560
Speaker 1: highest potential?

475
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Speaker 3: Taking a break from today's episode to talk up linked

476
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Speaker 3: in jobs. I'm the kind of person that believes that

477
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Speaker 3: it is super important to own your weaknesses and that

478
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Speaker 3: you need to know when to ask for help. Now,

479
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Speaker 3: asking for help, especially when it comes to hiring, can

480
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483
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484
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Speaker 3: the whole process super simple from start to finish. It's

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Speaker 3: no wonder why a person is hired every eight seconds.

486
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487
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488
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490
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491
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492
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Speaker 3: It's interesting that you started to be able to define

493
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:32,080
Speaker 3: your highest potential in a different way than you did

494
00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:33,560
Speaker 3: when you were skating all the time.

495
00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:36,320
Speaker 1: Fitness brought it out in me because it was like,

496
00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:40,560
Speaker 1: if I strengthen these areas of my body, I will

497
00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:44,159
Speaker 1: be able to perform better on my skateboard, and I

498
00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:48,119
Speaker 1: will feel stronger and I'll feel better in life. After

499
00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:51,520
Speaker 1: working out, you feel great. You're like, oh, hi, on

500
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:54,760
Speaker 1: the endorphins and whatever. And you know, those are things

501
00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:56,199
Speaker 1: that kind of brought me into it.

502
00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:58,920
Speaker 3: Were you doing any sort of like strength training or

503
00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:01,320
Speaker 3: any other working out aside from skating when you were

504
00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:03,359
Speaker 3: big into skate before the injury.

505
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:07,040
Speaker 1: Before an injury, I would do like pushups and bench press,

506
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:09,840
Speaker 1: like dips, like you know, just the random ones, maybe

507
00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:12,919
Speaker 1: like pull up challenge with your friends or something like

508
00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:13,720
Speaker 1: just random.

509
00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:17,399
Speaker 3: You know, what does training look like for you these days?

510
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:19,240
Speaker 3: And I mean there's a little bit we're skipping over,

511
00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:20,879
Speaker 3: but I'm just kind of curious.

512
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:23,760
Speaker 4: So I trained six days a week.

513
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:27,640
Speaker 1: I do a lot of conventional training, building certain areas

514
00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:29,960
Speaker 1: up and keeping areas strong.

515
00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:34,880
Speaker 4: You know, I'm not a powerlifter. I believe in lighter

516
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:36,240
Speaker 4: to moderate weights.

517
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:39,760
Speaker 1: You know, I want longevity. You know, I'm not trying

518
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:44,920
Speaker 1: to blow myself out at thirty four. How that's how old.

519
00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:45,800
Speaker 4: I am now, you know.

520
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:49,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm trying to like, I want to be my

521
00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:52,320
Speaker 1: strongest when I'm sixty seventy, you.

522
00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:52,960
Speaker 4: Know what I mean.

523
00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:56,840
Speaker 1: So I'm just slowly building my way up, but at

524
00:27:56,840 --> 00:28:00,119
Speaker 1: the same time, I'm strengthening myself and keeping sure I

525
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:02,680
Speaker 1: do my mobility drills and all that stuff.

526
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:02,959
Speaker 4: You know.

527
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:05,800
Speaker 3: So you're hanging out with all of your friends at

528
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:08,040
Speaker 3: the rehab center, all the people that are helping you

529
00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:12,119
Speaker 3: get strong again. And when do you get back to skating.

530
00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:16,880
Speaker 1: I get back to skating nine months, ten months or so.

531
00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:20,760
Speaker 1: And at this point we can just you can just

532
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:24,119
Speaker 1: like cruise around. You could do a couple flip tricks

533
00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:26,400
Speaker 1: on the flatground and stuff. You can't really do much,

534
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:29,800
Speaker 1: you know, and as the months passed, probably like four

535
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:32,760
Speaker 1: more months or so, then you could start, you know,

536
00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:35,680
Speaker 1: pushing it, like jumping on tables and stuff like that.

537
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:38,120
Speaker 3: Did it feel different.

538
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:39,040
Speaker 4: At the beginning?

539
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:42,719
Speaker 1: It does, because you haven't done anything for nine months,

540
00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:46,840
Speaker 1: you know, But eventually it breaks in.

541
00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:50,480
Speaker 4: You know. It's a mind to muscle kind of connection.

542
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:54,360
Speaker 4: You know. It's like if you grew up drawing or

543
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:55,000
Speaker 4: something like that.

544
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:57,200
Speaker 1: It's like if you didn't draw for a couple of months,

545
00:28:57,680 --> 00:28:59,920
Speaker 1: you'll still be able to draw something.

546
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,400
Speaker 4: It's like a mental connection that you have with it.

547
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:04,080
Speaker 4: You just kind of jump right back in.

548
00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 3: Did you always think during the time that you were

549
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:10,760
Speaker 3: working to get your strength back that you would definitely

550
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:12,840
Speaker 3: get back into skating or was there ever a point

551
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:14,560
Speaker 3: where you were like, maybe this isn't going to be

552
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:15,280
Speaker 3: my thing anymore.

553
00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:15,680
Speaker 4: Oh?

554
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:19,640
Speaker 1: No, I was completely focused and dedicated to getting back

555
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:24,880
Speaker 1: into skating. And it's my baby, you know, it's all

556
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:28,680
Speaker 1: I know. It's what gives me my freedom. You know,

557
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:32,560
Speaker 1: it's what allows me to be a creative person and

558
00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:35,520
Speaker 1: really expressed myself.

559
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:38,680
Speaker 3: So talk to me about the first few months when

560
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:40,880
Speaker 3: you really feel like you're back in the saddle when

561
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:41,440
Speaker 3: it comes to.

562
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:45,000
Speaker 1: Skating, getting back into skating. I mean, it's all just

563
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 1: a learning curve. It was just little by little getting

564
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:54,440
Speaker 1: things back, like, you know, making sure I'm back and

565
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:58,760
Speaker 1: prepared before I'm able to jump down stairs and gaps

566
00:29:58,800 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 1: and stuff again.

567
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 3: Stairs and gaps and stuff like that. As you're skating

568
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:07,600
Speaker 3: more and feeling stronger, are you still like not partying,

569
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:08,880
Speaker 3: not doing any of that kind of stuff.

570
00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:11,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, I stood true.

571
00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:15,160
Speaker 1: You know, I stopped partying and drinking and I have

572
00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:19,800
Speaker 1: five years now on my belt. I haven't tasted alcohol.

573
00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:20,960
Speaker 3: How does it feel?

574
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 4: It's great?

575
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:22,560
Speaker 3: Yeah?

576
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:23,040
Speaker 4: Yeah.

577
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:24,840
Speaker 3: What would you say you've noticed has been like one

578
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:28,440
Speaker 3: of the biggest differences in you since making this shift.

579
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:33,920
Speaker 1: The biggest difference to me is I'm more able to

580
00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:36,600
Speaker 1: Back then, when I was drinking and partying and all

581
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:40,280
Speaker 1: that stuff, I was living for the now. I was

582
00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:44,120
Speaker 1: like just living by day by day. Just what can

583
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:47,200
Speaker 1: I do now now that I don't drink or party

584
00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:47,760
Speaker 1: or anything.

585
00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:49,520
Speaker 4: I live for the future.

586
00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:53,080
Speaker 1: Like I'm more planning for, you know, the years to

587
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:57,760
Speaker 1: come ahead. You know, I'm smarter. I could focus on things,

588
00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:02,280
Speaker 1: you know, and it's just living on both sides.

589
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 4: You know. It's like I'd rather be like I.

590
00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:10,080
Speaker 1: Am today, Yeah, because it's like if I was like

591
00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:13,840
Speaker 1: I am today when I was twenty, who knows how

592
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:17,520
Speaker 1: much I would have taken care of at this point

593
00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 1: in my life, you know.

594
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:18,880
Speaker 4: What I mean.

595
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, not drinking, not partying for so long has given

596
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 1: me so much free time to like create and do

597
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:30,040
Speaker 1: other stuff. So I've been skating. I'm still skating super hard,

598
00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 1: same way I used to. But instead of going out

599
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:36,360
Speaker 1: to the bars and throwing away the rest of the

600
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:40,479
Speaker 1: day and drinking, I go home and you know, I

601
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:43,360
Speaker 1: actually started my own business and my own company, and

602
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:46,120
Speaker 1: I make spice rubs.

603
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:48,480
Speaker 3: Now you know where did that come from? Where did

604
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:49,800
Speaker 3: come from?

605
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:54,560
Speaker 1: It's pretty sick how it came to play. So on

606
00:31:54,680 --> 00:32:00,800
Speaker 1: my social media. It's Nan Williams on Instagram. I my stories.

607
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 1: I do a lot of cooking in my stories, like

608
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:07,200
Speaker 1: clip by clip by clip, and I just always I

609
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:10,080
Speaker 1: did this for fun forever, you know, for years, for

610
00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:13,560
Speaker 1: like my friends and followers and fans and whatever, just

611
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:17,600
Speaker 1: to kind of give dinner, lunch, breakfast ideas or whatever.

612
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 1: You know.

613
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 4: It's just it's just fun. It's not even like I'm

614
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:23,560
Speaker 4: not trying to do anything. It's just all for fun.

615
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:28,080
Speaker 1: And I would make this chicken with a certain like

616
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:31,680
Speaker 1: batch of seasoning, and I made a YouTube video about it,

617
00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:35,120
Speaker 1: and people started making my chicken and like tagging me

618
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:38,960
Speaker 1: in it on Instagram and stuff like that, and they're like, oh,

619
00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:42,200
Speaker 1: this is the best chicken, like we love this and

620
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:45,160
Speaker 1: you know, and it was like I had something there.

621
00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:48,200
Speaker 1: So my Lady Jazz, she told me like, hey, we

622
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:51,240
Speaker 1: should make spices, you know, and I was like yeah, yeah, yeah.

623
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:54,719
Speaker 1: And then one of my other friends that he worked

624
00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:59,000
Speaker 1: for Whole Foods, he hit me up one day because

625
00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:01,320
Speaker 1: I was started to make my own T shirts, not

626
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:03,080
Speaker 1: a damn chance T shirts, you know.

627
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:05,400
Speaker 3: And I don't know, tell me about your not a

628
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:06,720
Speaker 3: damn Chance T shirts.

629
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:09,600
Speaker 1: So like after I would make my food on my

630
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:12,800
Speaker 1: Instagram stories, I'd have a big plate of food and

631
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:15,440
Speaker 1: I'd crush it, eat it all, you know, clean the plate,

632
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:17,920
Speaker 1: and I'd just say not a damn chance, and I

633
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 1: throw the napkin or like throw the plate off the table.

634
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:21,719
Speaker 4: Whatever.

635
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:24,280
Speaker 1: But it caught on and people started doing it too

636
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:27,120
Speaker 1: and sending it to me, and it was just like

637
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:29,640
Speaker 1: this big fun thing, you know, and we still do.

638
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:30,280
Speaker 4: It to this day.

639
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:31,000
Speaker 3: I love it.

640
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:33,400
Speaker 1: So I made not a damn chance shirts. I actually

641
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:38,520
Speaker 1: have one on right now. And my friend hit me

642
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:40,959
Speaker 1: up and he was like, hey, what's up with like

643
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:44,840
Speaker 1: your own hot sauces or your spice rubs or this

644
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:46,320
Speaker 1: that and the other, you know, And I was like,

645
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:49,720
Speaker 1: oh yeah. And I remember my lady Jess. She told

646
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:53,240
Speaker 1: me to do it too, you know. So I was like, yeah,

647
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:55,080
Speaker 1: I think it's time time.

648
00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:58,800
Speaker 3: I can't imagine that, like figuring out how to distribute

649
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:01,960
Speaker 3: spices or make them in any sort of mass quantity

650
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:03,160
Speaker 3: is like an easy thing.

651
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:08,200
Speaker 4: Well you know that. What's great about nowadays is there's YouTube.

652
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:14,440
Speaker 1: You know. YouTube has answers for everything, you know, so, uh,

653
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:17,600
Speaker 1: my lady went on YouTube and figured it out.

654
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:19,640
Speaker 3: I need to date any man that just refers to

655
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:20,920
Speaker 3: me as his lady.

656
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:24,000
Speaker 4: My lady lady.

657
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:24,160
Speaker 3: Yeah.

658
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:27,279
Speaker 4: Yeah.

659
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:29,400
Speaker 1: She figured it out and then came up to me

660
00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:33,520
Speaker 1: with like the plan and a couple of manufacturers. We

661
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:36,560
Speaker 1: had a meeting with a manufacturer and they're really cool,

662
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Speaker 1: family owned.

663
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Speaker 4: You know, we liked them and we started doing business

664
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Speaker 4: with them.

665
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:44,400
Speaker 1: We gave them, like I gave them my specific recipes

666
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:48,520
Speaker 1: for each spice rub and he sent me some samples

667
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:51,080
Speaker 1: that he made in bulk, and you know, once we

668
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:54,360
Speaker 1: nailed the formulas, it was like it was like clockwork.

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Speaker 4: We're just boom boom boom.

670
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Speaker 3: And these are all for sale online.

671
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Speaker 1: Yeah, they're all on my website, which is nine williamsco

672
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Speaker 1: dot com.

673
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:05,080
Speaker 4: I figured to make it as easy as possible. It's

674
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Speaker 4: just my name.

675
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:07,680
Speaker 3: Talk to me about what does it mean for you

676
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:09,240
Speaker 3: to be healthy these days?

677
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:14,160
Speaker 1: Health has become like a religion nowadays towards like everybody,

678
00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:16,840
Speaker 1: you know, it's like either you're this, or you're that,

679
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:19,399
Speaker 1: or you're that. You don't do this, you don't do that.

680
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:25,800
Speaker 1: And to me, health is just feeling good and knowing

681
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:28,160
Speaker 1: what you're putting in your body, like being mindful of

682
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:30,720
Speaker 1: what you're putting in your body, taking care of yourself

683
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:32,400
Speaker 1: and feeling good.

684
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:34,880
Speaker 4: Like that's what health is to me.

685
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter what you choose to eat, just make

686
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:44,120
Speaker 1: sure it's clean and it's from the earth. And you're

687
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:47,279
Speaker 1: doing so much better by doing that instead of like

688
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 1: these little nitpicky things. Because there's so many diets out there,

689
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:53,279
Speaker 1: there's so many routes you can take, and so many

690
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:55,719
Speaker 1: people like this is the healthiest, that's the healthiest, and

691
00:35:55,760 --> 00:36:00,480
Speaker 1: it's like just eat whole foods. Yeah, like that, like

692
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:03,319
Speaker 1: eat stuff from the earth, Eat stuff that grows out

693
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 1: of the ground. Like if you eat animals, like eat

694
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:09,759
Speaker 1: clean animal products that don't have like hormones and this,

695
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:11,839
Speaker 1: that and the other put in them, and you're going

696
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:12,680
Speaker 1: to be well off.

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00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:14,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that's what I think.

698
00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 1: And I'm okay with everyone's diet choices and you know,

699
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 1: morals and stuff when it comes to.

700
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:24,880
Speaker 4: Food and eating meat or eating veggies.

701
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:26,600
Speaker 1: And this that, and it's like I'm cool with that

702
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 1: because I respect everybody.

703
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 4: You know, and your choice is your choice, and.

704
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:35,799
Speaker 1: I'm not here to tell you which way to go,

705
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:39,200
Speaker 1: but do what works for you and what you.

706
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:44,080
Speaker 4: Believe is your healthy and that's that's it. That's it,

707
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:47,920
Speaker 4: you know, like it's easy, it's simple. You know, when you.

708
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:52,160
Speaker 3: When you stopped partying so much and started really focusing

709
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 3: on your health and then the rehab and then getting

710
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 3: back into skating, did you start to hang out with

711
00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 3: different people.

712
00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:00,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was one of the first steps.

713
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 1: Like we went over like the physical of rehab, mental rehab.

714
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:09,000
Speaker 4: Being off of alcohol and off of partying.

715
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:12,480
Speaker 1: Was I had to stop hanging out with like the

716
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:14,480
Speaker 1: crew I used to hang out with, you know, and

717
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:17,879
Speaker 1: it was sad, you know, losing friends and stuff. I mean,

718
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:20,239
Speaker 1: there's still my friends if I hit them up, you know,

719
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:23,319
Speaker 1: but it's like I'm not about that life anymore, you know.

720
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:25,160
Speaker 4: And we could connect.

721
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:28,839
Speaker 1: In like a skate skate way, you know, but in

722
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:31,400
Speaker 1: a party way. It's like, I'm not about that anymore.

723
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 4: So that was like the first step.

724
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:35,759
Speaker 1: And people asked me that all the time on Instagram

725
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 1: and stuff in my dms.

726
00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:39,320
Speaker 4: Just like how did I stay sober?

727
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:43,680
Speaker 1: Basically, first two weeks I came out of surgery, I

728
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 1: was in a brace. It's so painful to move after

729
00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:50,439
Speaker 1: an ACL surgery, any surgery anyways.

730
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Speaker 4: You know. So I was in a brace.

731
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:56,080
Speaker 1: I was on the couch for two weeks playing video

732
00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:58,320
Speaker 1: games because that was the only thing.

733
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Speaker 4: I could do.

734
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:03,759
Speaker 1: And then yeah, I just had to stay away from

735
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:06,879
Speaker 1: going out to bars and clubs for like.

736
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Speaker 4: Three three the first.

737
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:14,839
Speaker 1: Three months or something, until I had a strong enough

738
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 1: will to like go out to a bar and be like, yeah,

739
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:19,560
Speaker 1: I don't want a beer, Like give me a water

740
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Speaker 1: or a soda.

741
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 4: Water or something.

742
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 3: That must have been really hard.

743
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean even nowadays, I don't really go out

744
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:28,319
Speaker 1: to bars or anything. Like, if there's an event, I'll

745
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:30,880
Speaker 1: go out, But there's no point for me to be

746
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:33,440
Speaker 1: in a dark little bar if I'm not drinking.

747
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:35,920
Speaker 4: It's just there's nothing going on.

748
00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:38,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, unless it's like early and it's a

749
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:42,160
Speaker 1: business meeting, I'm good, you know. But if it's like

750
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:45,279
Speaker 1: eleven PM, it's like I need to go home.

751
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:47,800
Speaker 3: And obviously we're touching on the mental side of things.

752
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:51,160
Speaker 3: Did you go to some dark places to get through this,

753
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 3: because I can't imagine that.

754
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:55,280
Speaker 4: It was easy dark places.

755
00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 3: As you're sitting there, your leg is all sorts of

756
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 3: messed up. You aren't hanging out with the people that

757
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:03,400
Speaker 3: you used to hang out with. I mean, it's just

758
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:06,840
Speaker 3: such a drastic shift and very sudden.

759
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:10,480
Speaker 1: I have like a weird, like strong will in my head.

760
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 1: My girl, my lady, and she actually she actually decided

761
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 1: to not drink and party two with me.

762
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:19,680
Speaker 4: I had her with me.

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Speaker 1: She works from home too, she's a baker, so me

764
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:25,720
Speaker 1: and her we just kind of hung out and she'd

765
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Speaker 1: be bacon.

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00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:27,040
Speaker 4: I'd just be.

767
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:30,360
Speaker 1: Playing video games and there was no darkness. It was

768
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:32,719
Speaker 1: just like, well, I'm home here, I am. I mean,

769
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:35,600
Speaker 1: I was just playing video games.

770
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:39,120
Speaker 3: Or as someone who wants to have that kind of willpower,

771
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:42,360
Speaker 3: like what kind of advice would you offer them? Because

772
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:45,480
Speaker 3: this isn't just like advice as to how you stayed sober.

773
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:47,719
Speaker 3: This is like advice for anyone that wants to go

774
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:49,440
Speaker 3: after something that they're after.

775
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:52,160
Speaker 4: I always say, focused on the positive.

776
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:56,600
Speaker 1: We as humans tend to veer off into all the

777
00:39:56,680 --> 00:40:00,840
Speaker 1: negative things in life. The best way to rid yourself

778
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:03,960
Speaker 1: of that is to just focus on like the positive

779
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:07,680
Speaker 1: outweighs and negative. You know, but we always tend to

780
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:11,319
Speaker 1: focus on the negative. If we just get away from

781
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:15,560
Speaker 1: that negative and remember this to focus on the positive,

782
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:19,040
Speaker 1: will will be so much better off, you know, because

783
00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 1: there there are so many more accomplishments and so many

784
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:25,879
Speaker 1: more positive. There's so many people that care for each

785
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:28,960
Speaker 1: and every one of us all, you know, like focus

786
00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:33,440
Speaker 1: on that instead of that one person that's pissing you off.

787
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:37,240
Speaker 3: And I'm sure the path that you took to getting

788
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:41,160
Speaker 3: better and to getting stronger, it wasn't one vertical line

789
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:43,920
Speaker 3: up to the top. You must have had setbacks along

790
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:46,719
Speaker 3: the way. So staying positive, how do you stay positive

791
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:50,280
Speaker 3: when you feel like you're at a plateau?

792
00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:55,279
Speaker 1: Well, there's tons of ups and downs and fallbacks. I

793
00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:59,080
Speaker 1: stay positive by just remembering my goals, you know, and

794
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:01,879
Speaker 1: being grateful where I am in life and what I've

795
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:05,880
Speaker 1: accomplished and what I'm trying to get to. You don't

796
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 1: bring if something happens on the streets, you don't bring

797
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:10,200
Speaker 1: it home.

798
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:12,239
Speaker 4: You let you let it go.

799
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:16,400
Speaker 1: You're gonna have a better day if you are happy

800
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:19,920
Speaker 1: and positive. If you bring you know, that guy that

801
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:22,959
Speaker 1: cut you off and like flick you off and spin

802
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:27,000
Speaker 1: on your car home with you, you're gonna be a mess.

803
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:28,920
Speaker 1: You know. Then you're gonna you're gonna walk in your

804
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:30,839
Speaker 1: house and you trip on your skateboarder you and fall

805
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 1: on your ass or something, you know, like like bad

806
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:35,000
Speaker 1: things are gonna keep happening.

807
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 4: But if you're happy and you let it go, that's

808
00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:38,960
Speaker 4: what you need.

809
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:41,960
Speaker 1: To let things go and keep moving forward, you know,

810
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:43,480
Speaker 1: don't let anything.

811
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:44,160
Speaker 4: Take you down.

812
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:46,680
Speaker 3: So then, what does life look like for you? These days?

813
00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:48,760
Speaker 3: You're skating, you're training six days a week.

814
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, life is It's good. It's like one one.

815
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:57,840
Speaker 1: Big science project basically, like I'm working out fitness, getting

816
00:41:57,840 --> 00:41:59,239
Speaker 1: myself to my.

817
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:01,759
Speaker 4: Optimal level, like highest performance.

818
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 1: I feel great. I feel better than I ever felt.

819
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 1: You know, obviously I have some wear and tear thirty four.

820
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:12,200
Speaker 1: I've been skating since thirteen fourteen. You know that's a

821
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:15,759
Speaker 1: long time, jumping off the stairs and stuff since then,

822
00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:19,719
Speaker 1: taking injuries. But I'm at my best, you know, I

823
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:23,719
Speaker 1: feel great. I'm happy all the time. I have my company,

824
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:26,480
Speaker 1: you know, that is going up and up and up.

825
00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:27,600
Speaker 4: You know, it's fun.

826
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:29,879
Speaker 1: It's cool to see like people tagging me in their

827
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:32,359
Speaker 1: food that they're making with my spices and stuff, which

828
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:36,080
Speaker 1: is super awesome to get to share these things with people.

829
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:38,960
Speaker 1: You know, and life is nice. I mean I always

830
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:41,719
Speaker 1: think it's life is what you make it. You know,

831
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:45,520
Speaker 1: you manifest your own reality. If you're if you think

832
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:48,440
Speaker 1: life is nice, life is nice. If you think life

833
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:50,480
Speaker 1: is bad, then life is going to be bad. You know,

834
00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:52,399
Speaker 1: you get to choose your route.

835
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:55,479
Speaker 3: I love that we're both wearing the whoop right now.

836
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:58,400
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, we're trying to level up our potential. What

837
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:00,200
Speaker 3: would you say, is like one other thing that you

838
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:03,240
Speaker 3: added to your routine or like your overall well being

839
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:04,880
Speaker 3: that has kind of been a little bit of a

840
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:05,799
Speaker 3: game changer for you.

841
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:11,160
Speaker 1: The one main thing that I started like working on

842
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:14,360
Speaker 1: a little bit more and actually being aware of because

843
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:17,319
Speaker 1: I was never aware of it was recovery. Yeah, you know,

844
00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:20,800
Speaker 1: and actually the whoop actually helps me with that the most.

845
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:23,640
Speaker 1: You know what changed with that just being aware with

846
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 1: it of it, taking ice bats, you know, eating when

847
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:30,319
Speaker 1: I have like a shitty day of recovery, I'll eat

848
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:33,080
Speaker 1: a bunch of like I'll have a cheat meal, Like

849
00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:36,000
Speaker 1: I'll just slam a bunch of bread and pasta and

850
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:38,840
Speaker 1: just a bunch of carbs to like replenish my body,

851
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:42,720
Speaker 1: you know. Making sure to pay attention to taking days off.

852
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:45,440
Speaker 1: That's like a really big thing. And I think that's

853
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:48,600
Speaker 1: a lot of the reason why I would get injured.

854
00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:52,760
Speaker 1: When I would get injured. Is I wasn't resting with skating.

855
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:55,840
Speaker 1: You want to skate every single day. You want to

856
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 1: skate all day about like eight ten hours a day. Yeah,

857
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:02,720
Speaker 1: you know, like you just want to skate, skate, skate, skate,

858
00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:05,520
Speaker 1: and even if you're sore, you skate through the soreness

859
00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:08,439
Speaker 1: to where you don't feel sore anymore. But I think

860
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:12,640
Speaker 1: the problem with that is your body isn't recovered, so

861
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:16,240
Speaker 1: you're prone to get hurt at that point.

862
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:18,719
Speaker 3: You know, what are you excited about right now?

863
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 1: I'm just excited about everything, Excited about the future, excited

864
00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:26,440
Speaker 1: to see what the future holds.

865
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:29,080
Speaker 4: I'm excited to keep.

866
00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 1: Going on with what I've been doing and sharing with

867
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:35,720
Speaker 1: people and helping people. And I get stoked when people

868
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:38,320
Speaker 1: take stuff from what I'm saying and what I'm doing

869
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:40,120
Speaker 1: and like apply it to their life and then it

870
00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:42,799
Speaker 1: helps them, you know, Like that's what excites me.

871
00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:45,960
Speaker 3: You mentioned your social media following. You have quite the

872
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:49,719
Speaker 3: social media following. I think the last time I checked,

873
00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 3: you at over four hundred and twenty two thousand followers

874
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:53,960
Speaker 3: on Instagram. A lot of those people they come to

875
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:56,240
Speaker 3: your page, they see a guy that likes to skate,

876
00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:59,520
Speaker 3: he's got a lot of tattoos. Yeah, when you look

877
00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:02,640
Speaker 3: in the or what is it that you see?

878
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 1: I mean, I see a person that definitely has his flaws,

879
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:12,960
Speaker 1: you know, and that is steady working on them and

880
00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:18,160
Speaker 1: you know, trying his best to to be a better

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Speaker 1: person at all times. You know, that's kind of what

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Speaker 1: I see, is just trying to be better than the

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Speaker 1: previous day, the previous week. You know, like, how can

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Speaker 1: I how can I do something bigger better?

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Speaker 4: How can I be a better person?

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Speaker 3: What would you say has been one of the best

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Speaker 3: pieces of advice that you have received? Let's go with

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Speaker 3: since your accident.

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Speaker 1: Best pieces of advice would be probably from my boss,

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Speaker 1: the boss Andrew Reynolds. He when I was quitting like

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Speaker 1: smoking cigarettes and like drinking and stuff, he told me

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Speaker 1: to wait whenever you got an urge, to wait ten minutes, like,

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Speaker 1: don't act on it, wait ten minutes. And you know,

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Speaker 1: after those ten minutes have passed, like nine times out

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Speaker 1: of ten, you're you don't have that urge anymore, and

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Speaker 1: you're off to doing something else. And that was a

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Speaker 1: very big and important thing that I that I live with.

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Speaker 1: You know, It's something that helped me through the process

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Speaker 1: of staying off of partying, cigarettes, drugs, alcohol.

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Speaker 4: All of that.

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Speaker 1: You know, it was just wait ten minutes and you

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Speaker 1: end up you're like doing something else in your mind,

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Speaker 1: somewhere else, you know, and it's perfect.

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Speaker 3: That's amazing.

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Speaker 4: That's the best advice possible.

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Speaker 3: I sat down with a registered dietitian named Lisa Hiam

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Speaker 3: on the pod and she said to me, when it

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Speaker 3: came to food cravings or you wanted to eat something specific,

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Speaker 3: sit down for a second and think about how you

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Speaker 3: would feel in ten minutes from right now if you

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Speaker 3: ate the thing you wanted to eat in that moment.

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Speaker 4: Oh my god.

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Speaker 3: Yes, a lot of times with food especially, it's such

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Speaker 3: a mindless thing that we do while we're doing other things.

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Speaker 3: But what if you're intentional with like what you're putting

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Speaker 3: you do take this time that you're.

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Speaker 1: Saying, like a funnel cake or something, you're just like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I am not going to feel good in ten minutes

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Speaker 1: after eating this.

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Speaker 3: So that means it's a no go. All right, you

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Speaker 3: have an opportunity right now to offer yourself one piece

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Speaker 3: of advice. Looking back on your hurdle moment when you

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Speaker 3: are on the ground, laying there thinking shit, you have

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Speaker 3: an opportunity right now to offer yourself one piece of advice.

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Speaker 3: What is it that you tell yourself?

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Speaker 4: Everything will be all right.

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Speaker 1: Just keep pushing, Focus on your goals, focus on what

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Speaker 1: you want out of life, you know, and keep pushing,

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Speaker 1: like don't let don't let things stop you, you know,

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Speaker 1: like keep climbing in and keep being a good person,

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Speaker 1: and you know, keep fighting.

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Speaker 3: Keep fighting. Thanks so much for your.

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Speaker 4: Time, Thank you, thanks for having me.

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Speaker 3: And I love it. Another hurdle conquered. Catch you guys

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