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Speaker 1: You had a thrown in the white and the loss

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Speaker 2: All pitch, you can start your pluses out.

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Speaker 2: That was Scott zolac colin game in the first quarter.

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Speaker 2: It was seventeen to nothing at that point, and there

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Speaker 2: was a little part of me rooting for the Giants

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Speaker 2: They lost thirty three to fifteen. That was also Bob

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Speaker 2: Soci on w b Z. I'm Greg Rosenthal. That's Nick Shook.

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Speaker 2: You are nice enough to join us after a blowout

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Speaker 2: on Monday Night Football Live on YouTube. We appreciate you all, Shook,

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Speaker 2: and we appreciate one of the biggest stories of this

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Speaker 2: NFL season. We enter this stretch run and yes, the

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Speaker 2: eleven and two with Drake may as a real deal

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Speaker 3: Not favorite, but candidate, definitely a candidate's gonna be competing

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Speaker 3: with that guy. Who's thirty seven years old with a

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Speaker 2: It is so early. I want to just push back

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Speaker 2: There's more than a quarter to go of the season.

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Speaker 2: That is so much season for the Patriots that you know,

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Speaker 2: we have five whole weeks. But Drake May is right there.

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Speaker 2: And I think tonight was a great example if you

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Speaker 3: I mean more of the same, but also the ability

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Speaker 3: frustrating set of difficulties that ends up in a field goal,

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Speaker 3: and then the second time they win the fade to

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Speaker 3: But I mean he's comfortable, he's poised no matter the stage.

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Speaker 3: He's now played a primetime game on Thursday, Sunday and Monday.

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Speaker 3: He's looked good in all three like he's just He

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Speaker 3: He caught it.

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Speaker 2: It always makes the hit look a little bigger when

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Speaker 2: Well, one of our commenters, I knew people listening on

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Speaker 2: Order Now Marcus Jones to the Pro Bowl. He's been

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Speaker 3: No, No, I'm just saying because I think Tamiri DK makes

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Speaker 2: Have five more weeks. Well, there's punt returner on All

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Speaker 2: And then came out to the garage that happened and

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Speaker 2: It was it was painful because all I thought, because

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Speaker 2: I really hope that is not the last field goal

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Speaker 2: That would be brutal the guys you bounce around. I'm

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Speaker 2: who has become an international sensation, saying, I wasn't working

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Speaker 2: on the game yet I'm still up at four am.

434
00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:20,840
Speaker 2: Why to watch Drake may electric? I mean, and now

435
00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:23,960
Speaker 2: you're up potentially till till four thirty in the morning

436
00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:28,359
Speaker 2: watching us. Thank you Will A man who will do

437
00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:31,120
Speaker 2: anything to get his name mentioned and get a little

438
00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:38,720
Speaker 2: d light. What a way to think. A great friend

439
00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:39,520
Speaker 2: and a great viewer.

440
00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:43,959
Speaker 3: He's got a junciation of commanders ever, by the ways.

441
00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:46,359
Speaker 2: The best pronounciation of everything. Abdul Carter got benched again

442
00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:48,520
Speaker 2: for the first quarter of this game because he didn't

443
00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:52,280
Speaker 2: show up to a team meeting apparently or some sort

444
00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:55,320
Speaker 2: of team responsibility. That's the second time in three games

445
00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:57,359
Speaker 2: with Mike Kafka. So that's what I'll remember the Mike

446
00:21:57,400 --> 00:22:01,879
Speaker 2: Kafka era for that in some gutlet fourth down decisions tonight,

447
00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:04,399
Speaker 2: yeah night where I'm thinking, like Kafka's got a I

448
00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:05,879
Speaker 2: was gonna have a big take, and I still have

449
00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:07,639
Speaker 2: it that I think Kafka has a better chance to

450
00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:10,880
Speaker 2: keep this job than most people think. But I think

451
00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:13,760
Speaker 2: you're gonna have to have some surprising cool wins or

452
00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:17,679
Speaker 2: moments in it. And to punt the ball on fourth

453
00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:20,600
Speaker 2: in less than a yard late in the first half,

454
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Speaker 2: and then you gave up a field goal to the

455
00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:25,639
Speaker 2: Patriots anyways, and then to punt the ball on fourth

456
00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:28,959
Speaker 2: and eight down two scores. The game was reasonably close

457
00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:31,520
Speaker 2: with like eight minutes to go, and you punted there,

458
00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:33,680
Speaker 2: and of course the Patriots get back to where they

459
00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:35,800
Speaker 2: punted the ball in about three plays because the Giants

460
00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:37,920
Speaker 2: defense stunk all night. The only reason the Patriots didn't

461
00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:39,959
Speaker 2: score more is they kept stubbing their toe and they

462
00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:42,320
Speaker 2: couldn't run in the short yard. It's just a little

463
00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:43,960
Speaker 2: little gut list.

464
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Speaker 3: By Kafas stubbing their toe. You know, I'm going to

465
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Speaker 3: defend him for a second, because let's consider the situation here.

466
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Speaker 3: And I just looked up the next gen probability or

467
00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:52,159
Speaker 3: what the recommendation was, and the recommendation was go for it.

468
00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:54,600
Speaker 3: But it was only by like a small percentage. I

469
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Speaker 3: believe it was zero point five zero point five percent.

470
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Speaker 2: You try to win a game here, you try if

471
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Speaker 2: you're trying to do something special, the only chance you

472
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Speaker 2: have is to do something special.

473
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Speaker 3: Okay, But and you're right in order if he wants

474
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Speaker 3: to keep the job, because you don't win the job,

475
00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:11,359
Speaker 3: like Antonio Pierce once won the job with the Raiders,

476
00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:13,040
Speaker 3: unless you win games, and they have not done that

477
00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:15,679
Speaker 3: with Kafko, right, But also consider the situation. You are

478
00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:18,439
Speaker 3: deep in your own territory. You have not stopped anything

479
00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:20,000
Speaker 3: for most of the first half. The Patriots have all

480
00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:21,560
Speaker 3: the momentum in the world, and they are ready to

481
00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:24,320
Speaker 3: just finally knock you out for good. So if you

482
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Speaker 3: don't get it on fourth and one, which you've already

483
00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:28,200
Speaker 3: been stopped turnover on downs earlier in this game, then

484
00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:30,119
Speaker 3: at least you force them to go I don't know,

485
00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:32,960
Speaker 3: fifty sixty, maybe even seventy yards if the Scottish hammer

486
00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:35,280
Speaker 3: gets a good gets into it, which he kind of didn't.

487
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Speaker 3: But what you don't account for is that your defense

488
00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:38,800
Speaker 3: is going to give up like fifty five yards and

489
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Speaker 3: three plays.

490
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Speaker 2: Well, you account for you if you've watched the game,

491
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Speaker 2: you know.

492
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Speaker 3: I guess that's fair, but I understood it, and I said,

493
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Speaker 3: if they would have gone for it, there would have

494
00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:48,120
Speaker 3: been idiotic and desperate. But again, the Giants have two

495
00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:50,439
Speaker 3: wins on the year. They have to be desperate because

496
00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:53,000
Speaker 3: not being desperate is idiotic in itself.

497
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Speaker 2: Right. Okay, it's one yard though, and that's hard for them.

498
00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:03,840
Speaker 2: That's fair the thirty six yard line. My point is

499
00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:07,920
Speaker 2: it just was not surprising that the Patriots were on

500
00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:11,960
Speaker 2: the giants nineteen yard line four plays later, seven yards

501
00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:14,880
Speaker 2: to Mac Collins, fifteen to do Mario Douglas a short

502
00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:18,760
Speaker 2: past Madre Stevenson. This Giants defense is just poorly coached,

503
00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:21,520
Speaker 2: even without Shane Bowen. And then yeah, they kicked the

504
00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:23,760
Speaker 2: field goal. By the way the Patriots, I point. I

505
00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:26,719
Speaker 2: say this every week though Patriots receivers make tough catches.

506
00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:29,480
Speaker 2: Mac Collins made some tough catches tonight. I know Mark

507
00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:32,880
Speaker 2: Hunter Henry had a drop, which is rare for him.

508
00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:38,600
Speaker 2: But Stefan Diggs, you know, Kyle Williams tonight, certainly keseh

509
00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:41,560
Speaker 2: on booty. They might not beat you with beat you

510
00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:44,280
Speaker 2: with speed. Score they've got good hands, like I've seen

511
00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:47,080
Speaker 2: a lot of contested catches that has helped the completion percentage.

512
00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:49,520
Speaker 2: And then my final thing on this game is they

513
00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:54,240
Speaker 2: should not keep Joe Shane. That's all. Oh why why

514
00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:56,920
Speaker 2: did they move the goalposts? Before the season, they said,

515
00:24:57,400 --> 00:25:00,800
Speaker 2: you know, John mara is on on the record saying

516
00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:03,679
Speaker 2: that wins and losses are gonna you know, that's what

517
00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:05,760
Speaker 2: we need this year. We need to show progress. And

518
00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:08,040
Speaker 2: they asked, how like wins and losses that yes, we

519
00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:10,360
Speaker 2: need to see it in the standings. And somehow they've

520
00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:12,920
Speaker 2: moved the goalposts. They've won two games, and I don't

521
00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:15,119
Speaker 2: think Joe Shane's done a good job start.

522
00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:17,919
Speaker 3: Over, Yeah, what they did was they scapegoated Brian Dable,

523
00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:20,800
Speaker 3: arguably too soon, because I think he finally got the

524
00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:23,159
Speaker 3: quarterback that he could work with, and we saw signs

525
00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:25,080
Speaker 3: of potential with their pairing. And then they just said,

526
00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:26,520
Speaker 3: we need to make a change somewhere, so we're going

527
00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:28,040
Speaker 3: to fire our coach, but we're gonna stick with our

528
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Speaker 3: GM because we like what he's done with our roster

529
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Speaker 3: over the last couple of years. And I pushed back

530
00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:35,520
Speaker 3: against that because Abdil Carter is a great example of

531
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Speaker 3: how far they still have to go as an organization.

532
00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:40,080
Speaker 3: This was the can't miss guy in the draft. Everybody

533
00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:41,600
Speaker 3: went into the draft thinking he's the best player in

534
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Speaker 3: the draft. The Giants get him in the top five

535
00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:46,359
Speaker 3: and everything's dandy, and they trade back in for Jackson

536
00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:49,359
Speaker 3: Dark That's great. What has he done this year? Not much?

537
00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:52,560
Speaker 3: Lack of professionalism at least according to reports, him getting

538
00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:55,240
Speaker 3: benched in the first quarter two of the last three weeks.

539
00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:58,480
Speaker 3: That's not good, which means did you vet him or

540
00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:00,480
Speaker 3: did you just go with well, he's the best player

541
00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:02,679
Speaker 3: on the board that falls on the GM, not just

542
00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:04,280
Speaker 3: on the coach. That falls on the GM as well.

543
00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:07,639
Speaker 3: There's a lack of professionalism and accountability and preparation with

544
00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:09,800
Speaker 3: this team right now, and it starts from the top down.

545
00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:11,240
Speaker 3: So I totally agree. If you're going to fire the

546
00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:13,480
Speaker 3: coach and blame him for everything, the GM that hired

547
00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:15,040
Speaker 3: him and the GM that he was supposed to work

548
00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:17,720
Speaker 3: with to turn this team around should also be held accountable.

549
00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:19,680
Speaker 3: And I felt like it was it was a half

550
00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:21,200
Speaker 3: measure if you're really going to try to put the

551
00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:23,560
Speaker 3: Giants back on track toward being a winning football team.

552
00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:26,080
Speaker 3: I hate to restart because I think continuity matters, but

553
00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:28,479
Speaker 3: you're not keeping any continuity by keeping your GM there.

554
00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:33,040
Speaker 3: You're just perpetuating a list of a routine, a habit

555
00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:35,560
Speaker 3: of making poor decisions with your team. Further, with the

556
00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:37,520
Speaker 3: belief that somehow it's going to change with the new coach.

557
00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:42,400
Speaker 2: I love that, and I do allow for the possibility

558
00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:46,080
Speaker 2: that John Mara will change his mind. He has before

559
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:49,639
Speaker 2: when talking about different YEA coaching decisions over the years,

560
00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:56,240
Speaker 2: so it could still happen. Carter reportedly was a guy

561
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Speaker 2: that was maybe doing this during the Dable tenure, and

562
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:03,760
Speaker 2: that was part of some of the whispers that you

563
00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:06,159
Speaker 2: see from the reporters that cover the team that it

564
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:10,959
Speaker 2: was very permissive atmosphere with Dable there and getting him

565
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:13,920
Speaker 2: out the door. Now they're trying to like get Carter

566
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:19,119
Speaker 2: into better habits. But I'm just I'm just making.

567
00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:20,760
Speaker 3: That's unfair because you're talking about you, I know, and

568
00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:22,800
Speaker 3: I get that, But you moved the goalpost with Joe Shane. Well,

569
00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:25,359
Speaker 3: you're also kind of moving the goalpost with Dable because

570
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:27,679
Speaker 3: think about the position he's in. He's coaching for his

571
00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:30,280
Speaker 3: job and in order to increase his chances of winning

572
00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:32,160
Speaker 3: games to keep his job, he puts his best players

573
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:33,680
Speaker 3: on the field. Carter is supposed to be one of

574
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:36,359
Speaker 3: his better players on the team. You got to keep

575
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:37,720
Speaker 3: him out there. I don't like the idea of it

576
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:40,119
Speaker 3: being permissive either, because you got to establish some culture

577
00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:42,439
Speaker 3: and sense of accountability. But I think he was in

578
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:44,679
Speaker 3: a tough spot regardless. Pinning that on him alone is

579
00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:45,080
Speaker 3: not fair.

580
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:48,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, And Carter, to be fair, came in and I

581
00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:51,919
Speaker 2: think he got three pressures in this first series. Yeah,

582
00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:54,320
Speaker 2: Like he came in and he was like he had

583
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:56,679
Speaker 2: his hair on fire. He got his sack, which was

584
00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:59,520
Speaker 2: really more Drake May sliding at the line of scrimmage.

585
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:01,920
Speaker 2: But Carter got it, but he got a couple other

586
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:04,760
Speaker 2: quick pressures in there, so I thought he played a

587
00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:07,680
Speaker 2: pretty good game. And I will say when Jackson Dart

588
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:10,560
Speaker 2: was running back and forth, back and forth during that

589
00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:14,480
Speaker 2: two point try that he eventually hit, it reminded me

590
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:19,040
Speaker 2: of a play in Drake May's rookie year a rare victory.

591
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:23,919
Speaker 2: Was it his only victory where he hit his receiver

592
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:28,800
Speaker 2: against the Tennessee Titans on an incredible two point attempt

593
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:30,880
Speaker 2: where he is running back and forth and back and forth.

594
00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:33,480
Speaker 2: It was just a guy showing that he's an athlete,

595
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:35,879
Speaker 2: and that was like the first, Okay, Drake May like

596
00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:38,640
Speaker 2: big time moment, and so maybe we'll think back on

597
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:40,760
Speaker 2: how this season ended. I don't think Jackson Dart has

598
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:44,320
Speaker 2: nearly the ceiling as Drake May, because you saw it tonight,

599
00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:47,080
Speaker 2: you've seen it so far. He's just not that successful

600
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:50,400
Speaker 2: right now as a dropback passer, as a traditional just

601
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:52,760
Speaker 2: like you know, forget the RPOs for you.

602
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:56,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, that works for bon Nicks, at least it does

603
00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:57,240
Speaker 3: for the most part.

604
00:28:57,720 --> 00:28:59,440
Speaker 2: That's why That's why I'm saying the ceiling is not

605
00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:02,200
Speaker 2: as high as May, who I think always had every

606
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:04,600
Speaker 2: tool that you wanted, and I think Jackson Dart might

607
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:06,720
Speaker 2: not have that, or it's gonna take a little while. Yeah,

608
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:10,080
Speaker 2: but I do think Jackson dart ceiling is pretty high,

609
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 2: and I think he's looking pretty good as a way.

610
00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:22,040
Speaker 2: All right, let's let's move on to this hierarchy, so

611
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:25,320
Speaker 2: quick assignment. We're gonna we're gonna fire through this quickly.

612
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:30,680
Speaker 2: We finished thirteen weeks. The final four teams that have

613
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:33,720
Speaker 2: a bye are going to have it in week fourteen.

614
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:37,080
Speaker 2: That's the Giants and the Patriots and the Panthers and

615
00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:40,120
Speaker 2: the forty nine. So you know we're we're at a

616
00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:43,600
Speaker 2: nice little point in the season here. I wanted you

617
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:45,800
Speaker 2: after this game, because the Patriots are the number one

618
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:49,160
Speaker 2: seed in the AFC, to break down your AFC hierarchy.

619
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Speaker 2: And I wanted you to do it not by power ranking,

620
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:56,760
Speaker 2: just purely who do you think has like the best

621
00:29:56,840 --> 00:30:00,560
Speaker 2: chances they're a real chance to make the super And

622
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:01,800
Speaker 2: how we're going to do this. We're going to go

623
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:03,040
Speaker 2: one at a time. It's too hard to go back

624
00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:05,480
Speaker 2: and forth. I want you to give me your entire

625
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:10,080
Speaker 2: hierarchy right off the bat top to bottom. We're not

626
00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:12,160
Speaker 2: counting teams that aren't going to make the playoffs. It's

627
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:15,360
Speaker 2: an only team that you can imagine are have a

628
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:17,560
Speaker 2: real chance to make the Super Bowl. You give me

629
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:20,560
Speaker 2: your hierarchy right off the bat, and then we'll talk

630
00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:22,080
Speaker 2: about that, and then I'll go next.

631
00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:23,800
Speaker 3: Do you want to do this by tiers?

632
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:27,480
Speaker 2: Yeah? Me give me your different tiers. Start at the top.

633
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:30,320
Speaker 3: Okay, Tier one, call me crazy because they're not currently

634
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:32,120
Speaker 3: in the playoff picture, but the Kansas City Chiefs are

635
00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:33,880
Speaker 3: in there. This is in no particular order, but within

636
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:36,920
Speaker 3: the tiers, Kansas City Chiefs are in there. I'm going

637
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:39,360
Speaker 3: to say that the Denver Broncos are also in there

638
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:43,040
Speaker 3: because that defense is going to travel well. I'm skeptical

639
00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:44,440
Speaker 3: of them, but I'm still going to put them in

640
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 3: there because they've looked a lot better in the last

641
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:49,800
Speaker 3: few weeks of the Buffalo Bills. Okay, and last but

642
00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:54,080
Speaker 3: not least, the Indiapolis Cults. That's Tier one. Tier two

643
00:30:54,800 --> 00:31:03,240
Speaker 3: will go New England Patriots, and then we'll go Houston Texans.

644
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:07,600
Speaker 3: And that's probably it for that one, because then I

645
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:10,960
Speaker 3: have questions about the remaining teams, which, without keeping track

646
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:12,640
Speaker 3: of this, will go.

647
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:17,200
Speaker 2: It would be Jaguars Chargers. Have you said the Ravens.

648
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:20,600
Speaker 3: Yet that's gonna be the Jaguars, the Chargers and the Ravens.

649
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Speaker 3: Did I just say the Ravens already. I don't think

650
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Speaker 3: I did, because I have questions about all of them.

651
00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:26,680
Speaker 3: The Ravens being Lamar Jackson just doesn't look like himself,

652
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:30,400
Speaker 3: the Chargers offensive line, and the Jaguars they're very up

653
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Speaker 3: and down, and Trevor Lawrence, let's let's break.

654
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Speaker 2: This down here. Let's break this down. So you have

655
00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:41,520
Speaker 2: the Chiefs, the Broncos, the Bills, and the Colts in

656
00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:44,840
Speaker 2: the top tier. And you have those four teams a

657
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Speaker 2: tier ahead of the Patriots. Now, the Colts ahead of

658
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:55,400
Speaker 2: the Patriots, the Broncos ahead of the Patriots. I've been

659
00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:57,360
Speaker 2: kind of banging the drum that I think this Patriots

660
00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:01,480
Speaker 2: team has some real shortcomings. But I'm cure for why

661
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:05,760
Speaker 2: you think they are a whole tier below a team

662
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:09,520
Speaker 2: led by a broken legged Daniel Jones and Bonix.

663
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Speaker 3: It's not because of Mike Vrabel. It's because of the

664
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Speaker 3: trench play. Losing Milton Williams is a big absence, and

665
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Speaker 3: I think it was pretty apparent early in this game

666
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:19,360
Speaker 3: against the Giants, and could.

667
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:21,640
Speaker 2: Get him back, could get both him and Will Campbell

668
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Speaker 2: back for the playoffs.

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Speaker 3: I think, yes, could could, but it's a big could,

670
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:26,360
Speaker 3: and I think that that's going to be their biggest limitation.

671
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:28,200
Speaker 3: It's that And I hate to say this too because

672
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 3: the Colts don't really boast this either, but it's a

673
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:30,520
Speaker 3: lack of experience.

674
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:30,959
Speaker 2: Now.

675
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Speaker 3: I love Drake May and I don't think that he's

676
00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:34,840
Speaker 3: the problem when it comes to a lack of experience,

677
00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:36,760
Speaker 3: but there have been so many new additions to this team.

678
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 3: They spent so much money in free agency. They're relying

679
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Speaker 3: on a mixed cast where I like Stefan Diggs is

680
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:43,600
Speaker 3: one of your most senior members on the offensive side,

681
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:45,280
Speaker 3: and he's had a great year. But if I have

682
00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:47,600
Speaker 3: to like put a lot of trust in them, I

683
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:50,480
Speaker 3: think that while I could see them in the super Bowl,

684
00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:53,720
Speaker 3: I could see them much more being a divisional round

685
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:56,480
Speaker 3: loss candidate with a really high upside going into twenty

686
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Speaker 3: twenty six.

687
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Speaker 2: But you can see in your minds, I myself, let's

688
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:09,760
Speaker 2: do it yourself in a trailer outside of Levi Stadium

689
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:12,480
Speaker 2: like we were last year doing a podcast and shook

690
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:16,240
Speaker 2: taking up like half the trailer and we're talking about

691
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 2: that big fourth quarter drive good or bad. We won't.

692
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 2: We won't decide who wins a game by bow Knicks

693
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:25,840
Speaker 2: in that Super Bowl. You can imagine that, or Daniel Jones,

694
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:28,240
Speaker 2: you can imagine that, But you can't imagine the Drake

695
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:28,760
Speaker 2: may One.

696
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Speaker 3: No, I can't imagine the big, the big fourth quarter

697
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 3: drive by bow Nicks. I can imagine the big fourth

698
00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:36,000
Speaker 3: quarter stand by the Broncos defense, and I can imagine

699
00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:39,680
Speaker 3: the big fourth quarter march by the Colts riding Jonathan

700
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:42,000
Speaker 3: Taylor in that offensive line to a victory and putting

701
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:43,840
Speaker 3: a game away that way. I'm not putting it on

702
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Speaker 3: the quarterbacks. I know quarterbacks the most important position in

703
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:47,880
Speaker 3: the NFL, but I think about the completeness of these

704
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:51,240
Speaker 3: other teams, and Denver's defense is I think, still better

705
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Speaker 3: than we even give them credit for, and could win

706
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 3: any game at any time. It's gonna be close, like,

707
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 3: it's never gonna be a blowt It's always gonna be

708
00:33:57,880 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 3: kind of sloppy. It's gonna be very much playing with

709
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:01,680
Speaker 3: your food with the Broncos. But the defense, I'm telling you,

710
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:04,040
Speaker 3: I know it's old school, but they win champions. We

711
00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:05,880
Speaker 3: saw it with Eagles last year and the Colts are

712
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:08,279
Speaker 3: a more complete team in that I trust lou Anarrimo

713
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:10,360
Speaker 3: to get the most out of his defense. I would

714
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:13,480
Speaker 3: like to Forrest Buckner to be involved, and I believe

715
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:16,680
Speaker 3: that riding Jonathan Taylor could be a key to success

716
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:18,239
Speaker 3: for them against a team that maybe doesn't have a

717
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:19,919
Speaker 3: great run defense, and they get to the super Bowl.

718
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Speaker 2: Okay, I think a lot of the commenters are wondering, like,

719
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Speaker 2: why are the Chiefs in that first tier? But I'm

720
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Speaker 2: going to go through mine now. Now I disagree with

721
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:34,960
Speaker 2: you about the Colts. I don't disagree about the Chiefs

722
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Speaker 2: being in the first tier because I just think they

723
00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:40,480
Speaker 2: have a chance, Like we're talking about chances to go

724
00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:43,040
Speaker 2: to the super Bowl in this scenario, obviously they got

725
00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:45,160
Speaker 2: to make the playoffs. It's a little lower than some

726
00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:48,160
Speaker 2: of the other teams because we know that the Patriots

727
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Speaker 2: and the Broncos are going to the playoffs, for instance,

728
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Speaker 2: and yet, like I do think I can see that route.

729
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:58,120
Speaker 2: But the reality is this is the most open AFC

730
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Speaker 2: maybe open conference that we've seen in a long time,

731
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Speaker 2: and so I have a monstrous first tier. I think

732
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Speaker 2: that's the way I settle it. In no particular order,

733
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Speaker 2: I have the Broncos as well. I have the Patriots.

734
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Speaker 2: If you can get I put those two in, even

735
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 2: though I feel less confident in those two teams because

736
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:21,480
Speaker 2: I think they have a really good chance of either

737
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:23,600
Speaker 2: being the one seed or the one in the two seeds.

738
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Speaker 2: That is a real advantage, especially being the one seed

739
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:29,800
Speaker 2: getting to the divisional round. It all depends on matchups.

740
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Speaker 2: I don't think any of these teams are great, and

741
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:34,840
Speaker 2: so I do think in the right day, the right matchup,

742
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:37,279
Speaker 2: those two teams could win a couple games. I do

743
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Speaker 2: have the Chiefs and the Bills, the coaching, the quarterbacks.

744
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:44,879
Speaker 2: It's obvious they're not playing their best. I just don't

745
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 2: think people remember at this time of year just how

746
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:50,719
Speaker 2: freaking long these NFL seasons are. There will be a

747
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:55,720
Speaker 2: team that starts playing its best football in week seventeen, yeah,

748
00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:58,359
Speaker 2: or eighteen or you know what. They stink going into

749
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:01,560
Speaker 2: the playoffs, and then they start play really well. I'll

750
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:05,239
Speaker 2: like the Bengals a few years back, like they just

751
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:07,640
Speaker 2: have the components, and I know there's some real structural

752
00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:11,439
Speaker 2: problems with these teams, but it's such a weak AFC that,

753
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:13,640
Speaker 2: like I can see it happening So I put those

754
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:17,800
Speaker 2: four teams on the same level with the Ravens because

755
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 2: I still think this defense is playing well right now

756
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:25,279
Speaker 2: and you just can't tell me that a defense and

757
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:30,600
Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson couldn't somehow find a way to figure it out.

758
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:33,080
Speaker 2: And so that's five teams right there, and I wrote

759
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:36,279
Speaker 2: down two more. I actually thought at first, and now

760
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Speaker 2: that I'm talking it through, I don't think I can

761
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 2: do it that I'd put the Chargers and the Texans

762
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 2: in there too, because I really just think, here's why

763
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:49,759
Speaker 2: it shook. It's not a good it's not a good AFC. Like,

764
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:53,719
Speaker 2: could the Texans defense be the best thing in the

765
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:57,799
Speaker 2: playoffs and you have a really great young quarterback who

766
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Speaker 2: plays his best and beats a bad field, could justin

767
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:04,200
Speaker 2: Herbert go total god mode with a ton of skill

768
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:08,799
Speaker 2: position talent and a pretty well coached complete defense. Hell,

769
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Speaker 2: I'm putting those two in the first tier. It's a

770
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Speaker 2: seventeen tier.

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Speaker 3: That Sea you just ruined the entire exercise because you

772
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:15,240
Speaker 3: just know that's.

773
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Speaker 2: What exercise for me. That's the point in the exercise.

774
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:23,920
Speaker 3: Peries, you just ruined it. I appreciate your optimism because

775
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:26,200
Speaker 3: we did this exercise. What was it six eight weeks

776
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:28,640
Speaker 3: ago where we're like, how many teams could we see

777
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:30,680
Speaker 3: making the Super Bowl? We put half the freaking league

778
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:32,440
Speaker 3: in there. So I know you're an optimist when it

779
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:34,200
Speaker 3: comes to these things, but if we're gonna tear them,

780
00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:36,920
Speaker 3: you gotta have shortcomings with some. And I appreciate the

781
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:38,720
Speaker 3: wide open af seed put this segment.

782
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 2: This is a year the Arizona Cardinals in two thousand

783
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:49,839
Speaker 2: and nine. Was it lost Week sixteen and seventeen by

784
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:54,239
Speaker 2: a combined thirty like sixty points, and then they were

785
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:57,480
Speaker 2: one drive away from winning the Super Bowl? Like the

786
00:37:57,480 --> 00:37:59,760
Speaker 2: Green Bay Packers were a six or a seven seed

787
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 2: and they went and won the Super Bowl. We like

788
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 2: the Steelers made it as as a low. This is

789
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:09,160
Speaker 2: a this is a year. I just don't I just

790
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:11,880
Speaker 2: think anyone's got a chance. And I just don't think

791
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 2: in reality there's that big a difference between this Patriots

792
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:21,560
Speaker 2: team and the Chargers, or this Broncos team and the Ravens,

793
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:26,000
Speaker 2: or a Bills team that's not great, And like the

794
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:28,359
Speaker 2: Chiefs are the Texans, I just don't we keep seeing it.

795
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:32,040
Speaker 2: We'll see it against Satday Night Texans. Chiefs. They're all

796
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:35,640
Speaker 2: around the same, they got a chance.

797
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:38,759
Speaker 3: You got to win with the Texans performance against the

798
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:40,840
Speaker 3: Chargers in the playoffs las year, because pretty much everybody

799
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:42,359
Speaker 3: thought the Chargers were going to run away with that one,

800
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:44,480
Speaker 3: and they did. The Texans defense dominated them.

801
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 2: That was actually, but those two teams had no chance

802
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:48,719
Speaker 2: to win the Super Bowl or make the Super Bowl

803
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 2: this year. Don't you feel different? I don't know.

804
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:53,240
Speaker 3: I mean, because it's wide open, that does make sense.

805
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:56,839
Speaker 3: But at the same time, if it's a confidence thing,

806
00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:58,960
Speaker 3: like who is the most complete team, and there is

807
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:02,280
Speaker 3: no perfectly complete team, I just see like the Chargers

808
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 3: on a weekly basis still don't protect Justin Herbert and

809
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:06,399
Speaker 3: I know we have all the faith in the world.

810
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:08,319
Speaker 2: That's the reason against them.

811
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:11,759
Speaker 3: But everyone the Texans and they get shredded again by

812
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:13,960
Speaker 3: that defense, like and boom, you're sure, which is why

813
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:15,960
Speaker 3: you don't belong in Tier one. If I can identify

814
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:18,680
Speaker 3: one matchup where I can see you just getting dominated,

815
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:19,960
Speaker 3: you don't belong in Tier one.

816
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:22,719
Speaker 2: But see everyone's got that matchup. I think that's a

817
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:27,719
Speaker 2: great point. Shook and the weirdly like the Chiefs are

818
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:32,520
Speaker 2: a team that are pretty balanced, like I think the

819
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:35,760
Speaker 2: you know, the Bills give them problems in the regular season,

820
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:37,759
Speaker 2: but I do think, like matchup wise, a team that

821
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:42,360
Speaker 2: could really run the ball on them would be dangerous.

822
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:44,279
Speaker 2: But then you you like look at the group, at

823
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:47,200
Speaker 2: the teams that are making the playoffs and the AFC,

824
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:50,600
Speaker 2: and it's like, who is that really the Chiefs, that's

825
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:53,720
Speaker 2: I mean, the Bills, maybe the Colts, But the Colts.

826
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:55,759
Speaker 2: You can't tell me their offensive line is so great

827
00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 2: when I've seen their intier line totally cave in on

828
00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:00,640
Speaker 2: Daniel Jones two games in a row. They're not pass

829
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 2: protecting well in the defense's block, and so like, do

830
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:07,200
Speaker 2: they get a matchup where they can hide those I

831
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Speaker 2: just I do think it's just gonna be a year

832
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:17,160
Speaker 2: where it all depends on the matchups and there's gonna

833
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:19,880
Speaker 2: be kryptonite for different teams and we won't know totally

834
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:22,120
Speaker 2: till we get there. But like the Broncos aren't some

835
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:24,320
Speaker 2: perfect team. They almost forget the lost of the Commanders

836
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:24,759
Speaker 2: last night.

837
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:26,759
Speaker 3: Yeah no, And that's the problem is that we have

838
00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 3: no idea who these teams are week to week. Like

839
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:32,320
Speaker 3: It's made picking games nearly impossible this season because you know,

840
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:34,279
Speaker 3: on the NFC side, Bryce Young looks terrible one week,

841
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:36,440
Speaker 3: looks great the next, and that's totally true for all

842
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:39,760
Speaker 3: of these AFC teams. There's nobody who is consistently effective

843
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:43,040
Speaker 3: enough from week to week. They've lost certain matchups, and

844
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:45,440
Speaker 3: it makes it all very unpredictable, which is why it

845
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:47,399
Speaker 3: builds the intrigue of the NFL, which is why it's

846
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:49,520
Speaker 3: the best most popular sport in America and why everybody's

847
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 3: gonna tune it.

848
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Speaker 2: Dean in the chat says, y'all why wilding out with

849
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:56,680
Speaker 2: this AFC high Thank you, Dean. I thought shuk was

850
00:40:56,719 --> 00:40:58,920
Speaker 2: out there for having the path in Tier two, and

851
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:03,000
Speaker 2: now sixty percent g half the conference in the top tier. Hey, guys,

852
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 2: life is unpredictable. Sports are unpredictable. Okay, this NFL season

853
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:14,239
Speaker 2: has showed us that actually it wouldn't be that big

854
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 2: of a shock for any of these teams. I like,

855
00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:19,839
Speaker 2: give them all about a fifteen percent chance, and there's

856
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:24,520
Speaker 2: home field doesn't really matter. The pedigree matters. But that's

857
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:27,480
Speaker 2: why I'm bumping up the Ravens and Chiefs and Bills

858
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:30,080
Speaker 2: into the top tier because they haven't really earned it otherwise.

859
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:33,040
Speaker 2: By the way, I do have a Tier two and

860
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:37,000
Speaker 2: that's that's the other. Initially I had the AFC South teams,

861
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:39,160
Speaker 2: all three of them in there, but now I've bumped

862
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:43,439
Speaker 2: the Texans up. My Tier two is the Jags and

863
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:44,000
Speaker 2: the Colts.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I was gonna say, I can't.

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Speaker 2: See them going through three weeks, and then the Steelers.

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Speaker 2: You're not even on my list. I don't care that

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Speaker 2: you're six and six.

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Speaker 3: No, just no, they're not in the conversation. They're not

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Speaker 3: in the conversation. But basically, what you're telling me is

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Speaker 3: that I should just prepare for we're gonna I'm gonna

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Speaker 3: we're gonna fly out to Santa Clair in February, and

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna meet you there and we're gonna be on

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Speaker 3: set and we're gonna be breaking down Jags Bears.

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Speaker 2: Well, no, see the Jags. The only way that I

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Speaker 2: can be proven wrong is if the Jags or the

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Speaker 2: Colts make the Super Bowl. I do think the fact

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Speaker 2: that Daniel Jones cannot move side to side very well,

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Speaker 2: and that their defense is just like, I mean, there's

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Speaker 2: a lot of med defenses here. The Patriots are one

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Speaker 2: of them. But Daniel Jones not moving side to side.

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Speaker 2: Plus meh, I don't like their chances, so I'm putting

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Speaker 2: the Jags and the Colts in a tier below. So

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Speaker 2: the only way I can be wrong is if one

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Speaker 2: of the two of them make it, or the Steelers. Otherwise,

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Speaker 2: you know.

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Speaker 3: Your grease and the skids. You know, it's fine, It's fine,

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Speaker 3: it's fine.

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Speaker 2: Hopefully this show has been more than fine. Thank you

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Speaker 2: to everyone who has been tuning in. We love you all,

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Speaker 2: especially Will Gavin, who's still in the chat making it happen.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna be back in the studio. Hit the music,

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Speaker 2: Crispabon and a great job, by the way, every Monday Night.

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Speaker 2: Next Monday Night, by the way, really good game Chargers stealer,

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Speaker 2: I mean sorry, Chargers Eagles in a game that Eagles

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Speaker 2: are really gonna want in a big test for that

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Speaker 2: Chargers offensive line. Tuesday on the show myself, Colleen Wolf,

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Speaker 2: I can't freaking wake. We will see you that