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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio Hope, everybody. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to Fox Sports Sunday. I'm Bucket brook to on me

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Speaker 1: joined with Andy Furman later Great Sports Weekend. We're in

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Speaker 1: the middle of March Madness. March Madness isn't just for

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Speaker 1: the guys, It's for the ladies. The guys are trying

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Speaker 1: to break down getting into the Final four. We have

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Speaker 1: the ladies who are in the Elite eight, and what

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Speaker 1: we're going to see is a lot of good basketball.

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Speaker 1: Whether you like NBA college basketball, it doesn't matter. Everyone

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Speaker 1: loves and enjoys March Madness. I am sitting here fully

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Speaker 1: disappointed because my bracket has been absolutely blown to Smith Rens.

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Speaker 1: My beloved tar Heels are no longer in the tournament,

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Speaker 1: and I am trying to figure out how I'm going

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Speaker 1: to root for either Duke or NC State to go

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Speaker 1: to the Final four. Giving my allitiance to the tar

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Speaker 1: Heels is tough. It's a tough day for the tar Heels,

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Speaker 1: but it is a great day if you are a

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Speaker 1: Yukon fan. The defending nationals champion Yukon Huskies are continuing

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Speaker 1: to roll through the tournament. One of the more dominant

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Speaker 1: runs that we have seen. Last night, we saw them

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Speaker 1: absolutely dismantle a really good Illinois team, but Yukon just

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Speaker 1: takes them to the shed, beats them by twenty five points,

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Speaker 1: continues to roll. Danny Hurley looks like he has it

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Speaker 1: going with everything Yukon. And what I loved about Danny

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Speaker 1: Hurley's postgame comments. He talked about the obnoxiousness of the

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Speaker 1: Yukon fans, how everyone has put a target on their back,

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Speaker 1: not only because they're defending national champs, but because Yukon

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Speaker 1: the brand and because of maybe the snewdiness of the

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Speaker 1: fan base, and they've embraced it and they love it.

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Speaker 1: And I think sports are better when we have a villain.

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Speaker 1: There's not a bigger villain in college basketball than the

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Speaker 1: Yukon Huskies right now. So then we're gonna bringing my

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Speaker 1: guy Andy Furman.

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Speaker 2: Andy, Wait, wait just a minute. You had to bring

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Speaker 2: the term villain up and then you bring me in.

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Speaker 2: What is that?

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Speaker 1: Is there?

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Speaker 2: A carl? Oh?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we're trying to Yeah, because I know you know

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Speaker 1: that part of it, like you kind of like playing

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Speaker 1: the bag at role, and so I just wanted to

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Speaker 1: make sure that I brought you in and set you

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Speaker 1: up nicely, you know, like like it's about putting people

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Speaker 1: in a role that they can flourish in, and I

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Speaker 1: know you kind of flourish as the villain.

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Speaker 2: I tell you what, it was a pretty nice intro.

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Speaker 2: And I just waited, but I didn't think you bring

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Speaker 2: me in like that. But that's okay, that's okay. You know,

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Speaker 2: let me just say one thing about this and the

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Speaker 2: point about the NCAA tournament. You know, I think and

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Speaker 2: maybe I'm mistaken here, maybe that there's no buzz. I'll

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Speaker 2: tell you why there's no Cinderella. And people make fun

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Speaker 2: about that all the time. They said, well, you know, yeah,

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Speaker 2: they're not gonna win. That's what it's all about. The

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Speaker 2: Loyola of Chicago when they had the sister on the sideline,

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Speaker 2: Saint Peter's, to some extent Oakland this year when they

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Speaker 2: beat Kentucky Florida Atlantic. You have to have some rooting interest.

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Speaker 2: And right now it's a domination tournament. I mean, you

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Speaker 2: could have picked early on that Connecticut was going to

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Speaker 2: go all the way or at least to the final four.

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Speaker 2: I mean Alabama's that's a strange one, okay. I mean

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Speaker 2: Alabama's the first time ever been to the Final four.

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Speaker 2: But maybe I'm way off base yet, but I've got

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Speaker 2: to believe there is no buzz, there is no excitement.

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Speaker 2: So because there is no Cinderella team.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know if it's because of a Cinerella team.

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Speaker 1: We don't really like Cinderella's the American viewer in public.

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Speaker 1: We like brand names. We like to know that the

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Speaker 1: blue bloods are going to be in the mix. I

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Speaker 1: would consider Yukon of blue bud given the fact that

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Speaker 1: they've won I think five national titles in the last

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty five years, they deserve to be in those

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Speaker 1: conversations with Duke in Carolina and some of the other

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Speaker 1: dominant teams that we've seen in basketball, Kentucky would fall

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Speaker 1: into that category. I believe there's no buzz around the

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Speaker 1: tournament because there are no stars in college basketball. We

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Speaker 1: the NBA. And now what we have are a lot

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Speaker 1: of fourth, fifth, and six year players that are playing

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Speaker 1: that we don't expect to see in the NBA. And

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Speaker 1: because there's not that buzz, I think we're having a

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Speaker 1: what's what in the college basketball landscape. And we've also,

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Speaker 1: i would say, maybe the negative part of the transfer portal.

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Speaker 1: We haven't had an opportunity to fall in love with

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Speaker 2: And I'll tell you, and that's the reason why the

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Speaker 2: women's tournament to me is at least as popular, maybe

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Speaker 2: more so than the men's tournament. Why there's stars, There

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Speaker 2: were stars that you get a couple two things together

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Speaker 2: maybe I'm wrong, stars and somewhat of a cinderella aspect

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Speaker 2: of a team that say, why where did they come from?

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Speaker 2: Where they located? And I think that's a big deal. Look,

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Speaker 2: we all know that the Cinderella team will never win it,

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Speaker 2: but the fact that they could make it deep into

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Speaker 2: a big deal. It creates buzz, greets, people talking about it.

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Speaker 2: And I remember when Saint Peter's beat Kentucky that was

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Speaker 2: a big deal with Saint Peter's college was Peter's University.

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Speaker 2: Whatever they are now, I don't know, but that's a

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Speaker 2: big deal. They don't have that now. I mean, where

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Speaker 2: the brackets, I mean, even in the elite eighth, don't

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Speaker 2: I don't see anybody that you consider maybe a team

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Speaker 2: that could be a Cinderella. Really maybe NC State maybe,

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Speaker 2: you know, because they were basically look for dead in

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Speaker 2: the in the a SEC tournament and then they won

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Speaker 2: five straight and five days and now they're coming on strong.

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Speaker 2: So maybe maybe NC State's one of those teams. Maybe

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Speaker 2: I don't know, And then today will feed well I

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Speaker 1: I mean yeah, I think they would qualify, and I

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Speaker 1: think they do have a nice bandwagon that is filling

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Speaker 1: up with folks who are supporting them. When you're thinking

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Speaker 1: I also think that we do love of dominant teams.

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Speaker 1: wash them win or Washington fall. And that's where Yukon

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Speaker 1: greatest coaches of all time? YadA, YadA, YadA. That will

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. And we're quick when I say we media

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Speaker 2: people there quick to make people to go the best,

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Speaker 2: you know, put them on Mount Rushmore, whatever the we

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Speaker 2: want to be. You know, you got to like put

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Speaker 2: the brakes on just a little bit. I mean, they're

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Speaker 2: a real good team, Ukon. Not great competition for them

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Speaker 2: to play with it blowing teams out by twenty thirty points.

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Speaker 2: They had a thirty zero run yesterday. I mean that's

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Speaker 2: unheard of in basketball live alone, college or any basketball.

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Speaker 2: I mean, they just they just domin eight people. They're

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Speaker 2: greatest coach of all time not yet. I'm gonna wait

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Speaker 2: a little bit and I'll tell you why things are

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Speaker 2: gonna get maybe even worse. And I hate to be

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Speaker 2: doom and gloom here. I read a story just the

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Speaker 2: other day about the coach at at Oakland, Okay. And

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Speaker 2: Greg camp is the coach man here like forty years

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Speaker 2: he was there when they were a Division two school.

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Speaker 2: And he said that, look, after that big upset over

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Speaker 2: Kentucky in the first round, got a kid in the

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Speaker 2: name of Townshend, Trey Townsend. This kid, Tray Townsend, may

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Speaker 2: not return like next year. He's gonna look for like

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Speaker 2: two hundred and fifty to three hundred thousand dollars in nil.

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Speaker 2: So what does that mean. It means that the rich

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Speaker 2: three hundred thousand dollars to play basketball. So Greg Campy

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Speaker 2: that I'm gonna lose him. So what's gonna happen. It's

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Speaker 2: gonna happen that any school that has some sort of

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Speaker 2: a star is gonna go out there, going to the portal,

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Speaker 2: go for nil money, big time money. I don't blame him,

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Speaker 2: but that's the way the system is and it's not healthy.

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Speaker 2: So you may never see school like Oakland again playing

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Speaker 2: in the NT double A tournament. Why they can't pay

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Speaker 2: players like other schools can not fair? Not right.

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Speaker 1: Well, now you may see them for one year, but

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Speaker 1: it'll be hard to see them play back to back

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Speaker 1: the mid majors and they're taking their kids. They're taking

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Speaker 1: their kids like the big schools are saying, oh man,

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Speaker 1: that's a great player at a small school. Let's pay

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Speaker 1: him to get him and pluck him. That's the way

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Speaker 1: that it's going. And until the NC DOUBLEA, until like

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Speaker 1: college athletics kind of gets a hold of the transient

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Speaker 1: nature of the players, the new infusion of money that's

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Speaker 1: going to those players and all of that, Yeah, the

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Speaker 1: movement and it's gonna change how we've looked at college

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Speaker 1: athletics for a long time. But some of this stuff

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Speaker 1: is good. It definitely is impacting Mark Maddness though, because

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Speaker 1: We're seeing a different kind of tournament this year. Like

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Speaker 1: would say there are not as many upsets because I

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Speaker 1: believe the parody is the same. I believe all these

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Speaker 1: teams are on the same level. Outside of Yukon, there

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Speaker 1: really wasn't a dominant team this year, Like there wasn't

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Speaker 1: a team that people were on that they could like

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Speaker 1: just kind of pencil in to the final four. And

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Speaker 1: I think sometimes the intrigue is good. We're just lacking

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because there's so much free agency in college basketball

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Speaker 2: don't know if the coaches are the ones that go

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Speaker 2: that contact the coaches and say, look, we need to

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Speaker 2: get a center, we need to get a point guard.

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Speaker 2: Here's a blank check, go out there and get one.

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Speaker 2: And I don't know if that's healthy. I mean, it's

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Speaker 2: great for kids, it's you know, I'm sure that in

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Speaker 2: some manor way of form, you're saying to yourself. Man,

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Speaker 2: I kind of missed it. If I was playing football

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Speaker 2: right now, I could be making amend, right, you'd be

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Speaker 2: involved with the nil, I'm sure you.

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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I mean like you missed out on that

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Speaker 1: part of it, like people moving around and shaking and yeah,

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Speaker 1: you talk about collectives now suddenly being involved in recruiting

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Speaker 1: and where people are going and all that stuff. But

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Speaker 1: when you made those decisions to play in these other leagues,

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Speaker 1: like you're just hoping to extend your opportunity to play.

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Speaker 1: You're hoping that someone will see you and provide you

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Speaker 1: with the chance, and you're trying to gather film. You're

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Speaker 1: trying to take advantage of an opportunity to just keep

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Speaker 1: the light on. And so fifty five hundred dollars a week,

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Speaker 1: fifty five thousand dollars for two and a half months

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Speaker 1: of work. Look for some of those guys, they will

438
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Speaker 1: say that it's worth it because it doesn't prevent you

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Speaker 1: from steel chasing dreams to play in the NFL, because

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Speaker 1: you can finish that season then have an opportunity to

441
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Speaker 1: go to camp and those things. And if you're young

442
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Speaker 1: enough and you don't have anything going on, why not

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Speaker 1: why not fully exhaust the dream before you have to?

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Speaker 1: I would say join civilian life. Like I'm all about

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Speaker 1: being a dream chaser, and if that gives you an

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Speaker 1: opportunity to continue to pursue something that you really love

447
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Speaker 1: and really want to do, man, you should do it.

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Speaker 2: Here we go, I've done. Speaking of dream chaser, I

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Speaker 2: think one of them is Michael Pennix junior. He's one

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Speaker 2: of several quarterbacks right now in college trying to take

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Speaker 2: several top thirty visits with interested teams. And I want

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Speaker 2: to know why. Okay, he had a great college career,

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Speaker 2: but he's got some baggage in the sense that he

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Speaker 2: had two ACL tears. He's a little older than most,

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Speaker 2: he's twenty three years of age. But he's visiting the Giants,

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Speaker 2: the Falcons, the Raiders, the Broncos, the Steelers. Why so

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Speaker 2: many teams? Number one? Why even the Steelers? They just

458
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Speaker 2: signed another quarterback what's the story with Michael PENNOCKX junior.

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Speaker 2: Is he ready to play in the NFL? Is he

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Speaker 2: a risk because of injuries in age?

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Speaker 1: I don't think he's a risk because of injuries and age.

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Speaker 1: I think is something that you have to do. You

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Speaker 1: do dieligence on and I would say that you want

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Speaker 1: to mitigate the risks that you have with any prospect

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Speaker 1: with him, but maybe not draft him in the first round.

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Speaker 1: Maybe draft him in the second round so you don't

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Speaker 1: have as much as money invested in the player. The

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Speaker 1: player itself, though, is a fantastic prospect. He is worthy

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Speaker 1: of being considered with the top quarterbacks based on the

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Speaker 1: body of work and particularly what he's done the last

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Speaker 1: two years at Washington. The reason why you see so

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Speaker 1: many visits there are a lot of people that are

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Speaker 1: interested in the talent and they're trying to gauge, Okay,

474
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Speaker 1: what's real, what's not? What do our doctors think? How

475
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Speaker 1: is the all? Does that fit in if we do

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Speaker 1: bring him in, how's he fit in the locker room?

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Speaker 1: Where can we kind of slot him in as a

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Speaker 1: QB one, QB two, all of those things. So you

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Speaker 1: should look do your due diligence if you're a team

480
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Speaker 1: in need of a quarterback, and as you mentioned the

481
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Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Steelers, you never turned down an opportunity to get

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Speaker 1: to know these quarterback prospects because either you want them

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Speaker 1: or you're going to play against them, and that intel,

484
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Speaker 1: that information that you kind of gather from them on

485
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Speaker 1: these visits can certainly help you down the road. Either

486
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Speaker 1: you bring them onto your team or you have to

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Speaker 1: face them, so you just want to know about them.

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Speaker 2: Well, let's talk about the Atlanta Falcons for a second.

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Speaker 2: They just sign up Kirk Cousins a four year deal

490
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Speaker 2: one hundred eighty million dollars. Okay, he's going to be

491
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Speaker 2: the number one guy. They're got to get the eighth

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Speaker 2: pick overall in the draft, and everybody says they've got

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Speaker 2: to get like an edge rusher. Probably then they don't

494
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Speaker 2: pick again to like I think the forty third pick,

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Speaker 2: and I think that's where maybe Penix could still might

496
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Speaker 2: be available and maybe they get him. You know, look,

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Speaker 2: this Kirk Cousins is no kid, and he's coming off

498
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Speaker 2: an injury as well. Maybe you want to get a

499
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Speaker 2: good backup and Penix could be the guy. I don't know,

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Speaker 2: but I was kind of scratching my head when I'm

501
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Speaker 2: seeing all these teams with somewhat of an interest with

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Speaker 2: Michael PENNOCKX Junior, especially the Steelers who now of Russell

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Speaker 2: Wilson and Justin Fields.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you always like good teams are always looking. You're

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Speaker 1: always looking to upgrade your ross. You never satisfied. You

506
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Speaker 1: don't just you know, mel it in and say, oh

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Speaker 1: we're good, this team, this ross is complete. We don't

508
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Speaker 1: need to do anything else. You always owe it to

509
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Speaker 1: the franchise to be looking to build the best team,

510
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Speaker 1: the best program that you can build, and so I

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Speaker 1: understand why they continue to search it. I actually applaud

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Speaker 1: them because this is how you're supposed to go about

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Speaker 1: your business. You're not supposed to leave any rocks unturned,

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Speaker 1: and so that's what they're doing and they should be

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Speaker 1: commended for that.

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Speaker 2: Okay, my next question is this. I get it that

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Speaker 2: the teams are somewhat interested. You can never have you know,

518
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Speaker 2: enough quarterbacks injury wise, back up whatever it may be.

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Speaker 2: But is it wise for Penix to visit all these teams?

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Speaker 2: Could that hurt him? He'd be better off. You know,

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Speaker 2: a lot of these guys don't even go to their

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Speaker 2: pro days. I mean sometimes you just have your stats,

523
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Speaker 2: leave it the way it is, and you know, if

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Speaker 2: you want to draft me, draft me rather than keep

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Speaker 2: on going out and kind of these many tryouts.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. See, Now the difference is like a Top thirty

527
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Speaker 1: visit is not a workout. A visit is just what

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Speaker 1: it says like, you go, you have dinner, You're in

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Speaker 1: the facility for thirty for a four to twenty four hours.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you get a chance to spend a full

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Speaker 1: day with the team. They get to meet with you,

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Speaker 1: all the coaches get to meet with you. You're not tested

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Speaker 1: or anything like that. It's really a meet and greet session.

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Speaker 1: And what you have to understand for most of these teams,

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Speaker 1: they've never really had an opportunity to really sit down

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Speaker 1: with the player to really get to know them. The

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Speaker 1: only time that you have to interact with players at

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Speaker 1: the end of the season, like once the season is done,

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Speaker 1: if you meet them at an All Star game, if

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Speaker 1: you have a visit with them at the combine. Those

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Speaker 1: meetings are maybe fifteen minutes of pop when you see

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Speaker 1: them at a pro day. Normally, if you're really interested

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Speaker 1: in them, you have a dinner to night before, then

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Speaker 1: you see them at the Pro Day, and then this

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Speaker 1: Top thirty visit, which is another twenty four hours. So

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Speaker 1: I'm telling you, maybe you're making a million a multimillion

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Speaker 1: dollar decision on about forty eight hours of engagement and interaction.

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Speaker 1: That's hard to do and so that's why these visits

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Speaker 1: are important for the teams, because you're trying to get

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Speaker 1: to know the player as well as you can in

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Speaker 1: the limited time that you're given to really develop a

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Speaker 1: familiarity with them.

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Speaker 2: I got you in all right. He's Bucket Brooks and

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Speaker 2: Andy Furman. This is Fox Sports Sunday on Fox Sports Rado. Now,

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Speaker 2: championship rings are great, but this one not so much.

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Speaker 2: That's coming up next on Fox Live for the Tyraq

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Speaker 2: dot Com studios. So first, he's back our guy, Kevin

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Speaker 2: Ryot with all your sports.

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Speaker 5: Yes, we're now in the Elite eight round of March Madness.

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Speaker 5: We had two teams punch their ticket into the final

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Speaker 5: four on a Saturday. The top team in the country, Yukon,

562
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Speaker 5: looking very impressive in their game with Illinois. They wanted

563
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Speaker 5: seventy seven to fifty two and at one point had

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Speaker 5: a thirty to nothing run, and during that stretch, the

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Speaker 5: defense also clamped down, as the ALIGNI shots seventeen from

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Speaker 5: the floor during the Hust's big run, Alabama erases a

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Speaker 5: thirteen point deficit against Clemson. They beat the Tigers eighty

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Speaker 5: nine eighty two out in Los Angeles to win the

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Speaker 5: West Region and head to the Final Four. On the

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Speaker 5: women's side of things, we're gonna have a couple of

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Speaker 5: great alleviate matchups after the Sweet sixteen was on Saturday,

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Speaker 5: the Yukon Huskies beating Duke fifty three forty five, USC

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Speaker 5: over Baylors seventy four to seventy so that sets up

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Speaker 5: an alleate matchup between the Trojans and the Huskies. And

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Speaker 5: we're also gonna get a rematch of last year's national

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Speaker 5: title game in the Alitia. That's after Iowa demolished Colorado

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Speaker 5: eighty nine sixty eight. LSU got by UCLA seventy eight

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Speaker 5: to sixty nine. So Iowa and LSU, the huge matchup

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Speaker 5: we've all been hoping for in the tournament, will take

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Speaker 5: place on Monday. In the NBA, Celtics improved to a

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Speaker 5: league best fifty eight and sixteen with a win at

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Speaker 5: New Orleans one of four ninety two, the Magic dominate,

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Speaker 5: the Memphis Grizzlies won eighteen eighty eight and the Bucks

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Speaker 5: over win at win at Atlanta, won twenty two to

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Speaker 5: one at thirteen, Rangers eight five winners at Arizona, Colorado

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Speaker 5: over National seven to four. Blackhawks get a five to

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Speaker 5: one win at Philadelphia, and the Vegas Golden Knights out

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Speaker 5: last in Minnesota Wild in overtime two to one. Major

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Speaker 5: League Baseball Cardinals in Tendings beat the Dodgers six to five,

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Speaker 5: as La reliver Joe Kelly a lot five runs in

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Speaker 5: the seventh, Dodgers were able to come back and tie

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Speaker 5: it in the ninth a Bookie Bets home run, Max

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Speaker 5: Months the RBI single, and La had their chances after

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Speaker 5: the Cardinals got the go ahead run in the tenth,

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Speaker 5: had the bases loaded, but just couldn't drive anyone. In

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Speaker 5: Seattle gets by Boston four to three. They scored three

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Speaker 5: times at the bottom of the tenth inning, Julio Rodriguez

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Speaker 5: getting the walk off RBI knock. The Yankees come from

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Speaker 5: behind him at the Astros five to three, and spring

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Speaker 5: football has already started. The new UFL Spring Football League

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Speaker 5: has nothing to do with the old UFL that existed

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Speaker 5: what like fifteen years ago as a merger of the

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Speaker 5: USFL XFL. They had a couple of games yesterday, Birmingham

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Speaker 5: winning the opener twenty seven to fourteen at Arlington, Michigan

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Speaker 5: eighteen sixteen winners against the Saint Louis BattleHawks on a

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Speaker 5: sixty four yard field goal.

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Speaker 2: Thank you guys, thank you see keV RCA. Now, this

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Speaker 2: is a strange request. We'll explain that in just about

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Speaker 2: a minute. He's Bucky Brooks. I'm Andy Furman. We are

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Sunday on Fox Sports Radio. Have the asked

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Speaker 2: Bucky in about seven eight minutes from now. And it's

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Speaker 2: kind of a crazy story, but I gotta run it

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Speaker 2: by you because you got to help me out here.

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Speaker 2: I don't get it. I just look at rules and

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Speaker 2: I say, why are these rules? They are? And what's happening.

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Speaker 2: There's a freshman All American, Hannah Hidalgo. She was forced

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Speaker 2: to take her nosering out in the middle of the

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Speaker 2: Notre Dame loss to Oregon State Friday seventy sixty five.

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Speaker 2: That was in the sweet sixteen. Okay, why game officials

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Speaker 2: enforced an NCAA rule prohibiting jewelry during games. All right,

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Speaker 2: all right, the decision came as a surprise to Aidalgo

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Speaker 2: and the coach of notjed Dame and those on the NOTJ.

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Speaker 2: Dame bench. Why, of course, Hidalgo has played with a

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Speaker 2: nose ring the entire season, including the first two NCUBA

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Speaker 2: tournament games. All right, so this is crazy, it really is.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 2: In the postgame interview, the Doglas said one official told

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Speaker 2: her that she could wear the nose ring as long

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Speaker 2: as she covered it up, but at the end of

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Speaker 2: the first quarter, her Doga was told the nose ring

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Speaker 2: how to be removed or she couldn't play in the game.

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Speaker 1: All right.

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Speaker 2: She missed like four or five minutes of the game

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Speaker 2: in the second quarter, and the train has struggled to

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Speaker 2: get the ring out, okay, And she said that the

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Speaker 2: trainers didn't know how to take it out and her

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Speaker 2: nose was bleeding as a result. And she was given

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Speaker 2: no explanation why the officials changed her course during the game, saying,

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Speaker 2: you got to have it in and take it out.

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Speaker 2: I don't understand it. Look, I watch NFL games players

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Speaker 2: wear changed. I couldn't even lift all right, what about

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Speaker 2: NCAA football players they weren't change. What is happening? Why

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Speaker 2: can't you wear a nose ring? And she wore it

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Speaker 2: all season long, and she wore for the first two

645
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Speaker 2: games in the NCUBAA tournament. Am I pushing something that's

646
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Speaker 2: really crazy? I just don't understand why one day it's good,

647
00:30:57,080 --> 00:31:00,240
Speaker 2: one day it's bad. What is happening here? With rules?

648
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 1: So there's always kind of been a rule when it

649
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:06,080
Speaker 1: came to jeury in those things, and a lot of

650
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:08,720
Speaker 1: it is not for the opponent, is really to protect

651
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:12,040
Speaker 1: the player, and so andy when it comes to ear

652
00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:14,840
Speaker 1: rings and jury in those things, particularly we're talking about

653
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 1: the nose ring. What they're trying to prevent is an

654
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:21,600
Speaker 1: opponent hitting her in the nose and having the nose

655
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:24,520
Speaker 1: ring rip and tear her nose where she's bleeding and

656
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:27,080
Speaker 1: doing things just like if I had ear rings in

657
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Speaker 1: there're sometimes you have rules like hey man, don't wear

658
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 1: ear rings because like people can tug them and pull

659
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:36,200
Speaker 1: them out and then like it split your ear lobes

660
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:38,520
Speaker 1: in those things, and so it's supposed to be a

661
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:42,160
Speaker 1: preventive measure. I would say that I can understand her

662
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:46,040
Speaker 1: confusion because some officials let it slide and what all

663
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:50,920
Speaker 1: players and what everyone wants are consistency, and those rules

664
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Speaker 1: are in place. Some officials choose to govern a little

665
00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:58,520
Speaker 1: stricter than others. But if the rules were in place,

666
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:00,760
Speaker 1: the coach should have known that, and then the player

667
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:02,960
Speaker 1: should know because the officials will tell you that before

668
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:05,960
Speaker 1: the game, like a coach. Here's the situation. Because they

669
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Speaker 1: do uniform check and expection, they make sure everyone is

670
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Speaker 1: properly equipped in those things. That's the conversation that the

671
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:15,840
Speaker 1: officiers should have had with the coach before the game.

672
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:18,520
Speaker 1: And if the coach should have relayed that information to

673
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Speaker 1: the player, so they wouldn't have had that, they wouldn't

674
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Speaker 1: have had the confusion in the middle of the contest.

675
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Speaker 2: Have you seen anything like this when you played in

676
00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:29,480
Speaker 2: your playing days with uniforms or jewelry or anything like that,

677
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Speaker 2: players weren't jewelry and toul to remove it.

678
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:34,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've seen. I mean, look, I've seen it happen

679
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:37,600
Speaker 1: in high school. I mean it's not the same as college,

680
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:40,000
Speaker 1: but yeah, like they have you remove stuff, like there's

681
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,600
Speaker 1: certain things that you can't do with the EyeBlack, you know,

682
00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:44,560
Speaker 1: like the eye black that is supposed to take away

683
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:46,320
Speaker 1: the glare. You can't have it smeared all over your

684
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:49,840
Speaker 1: face in high school. Now, some officials don't care about it,

685
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:53,280
Speaker 1: but others, particularly when you get into the postseason, when

686
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:56,440
Speaker 1: you have the best of the best officiating the game. Oh,

687
00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 1: they will absolutely point out those things or uniform violations.

688
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:03,880
Speaker 1: Your jersey's tucked in and you know, your socks and

689
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 1: the extra wrist bands and all those bands. Yeah, their

690
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:10,800
Speaker 1: rules and restrictions, like their protocols, And what you try

691
00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:13,120
Speaker 1: to do is you try to eliminate all that stuff

692
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Speaker 1: before it even gets to the officials. He as a coach.

693
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Speaker 1: I mean, somebody should be responsible for making sure that

694
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Speaker 1: everyone looks the part that everyone is, you know, properly

695
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:25,440
Speaker 1: equipped in those things. And whether we like it or not,

696
00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:27,400
Speaker 1: and whether we agree with the rules, that's a different thing.

697
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:29,480
Speaker 1: But if the rules are in place, you have to

698
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Speaker 1: abuye by the rules.

699
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Speaker 2: It's funny you mentioned that because I'm sure you know

700
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:37,720
Speaker 2: this film. My buddy David Fulcher, who played for the Bengals. Okay,

701
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:40,120
Speaker 2: David Fulcher had a job for years. He'd stay on

702
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:44,080
Speaker 2: the sidelines during the home game, right, I mean, make

703
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:47,080
Speaker 2: sure your jersey's tucked in and with the same color socks.

704
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:49,360
Speaker 2: So I guess there is something like that. I'll tell

705
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:51,960
Speaker 2: you a funny story about David Fulcher. Back in the day.

706
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:54,960
Speaker 2: I was working in TV at the time and the

707
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 2: NBC affiliate in Cincinnati. I was told that the Bengals

708
00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:00,000
Speaker 2: drafted David Fultuer. I don't think you could do this today.

709
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:03,480
Speaker 2: I called up the airlines to find out what flight

710
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:06,240
Speaker 2: he was on so our TV station would get to scoop.

711
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:08,080
Speaker 2: All right, you can't do that today, there's no way

712
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:10,719
Speaker 2: with security. So I found out what he was coming in.

713
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:12,560
Speaker 2: I found out what the hotel he was at, went

714
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Speaker 2: to the hotel, knocked on the door, opened the door,

715
00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:17,919
Speaker 2: and he says, who the hell are you? And I said,

716
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:19,440
Speaker 2: who I want but the bank and we got a

717
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:21,880
Speaker 2: TV interview and ever since that time we become pretty

718
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:23,759
Speaker 2: good friends, David Folter and I. But he was doing

719
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:25,719
Speaker 2: that job on the sidelines. I don't know if he

720
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:28,240
Speaker 2: still does it, but I remember he would report people

721
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:30,480
Speaker 2: of the uniform police. So you're right about it. I've

722
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:31,600
Speaker 2: just just dawned on me.

723
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Speaker 1: Really. Yeah, and Andy, you're you're very aggressive when it comes

724
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Speaker 1: to breaking news in storytime.

725
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:39,840
Speaker 2: You can't do it. Can you imagine calling an airline

726
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:42,000
Speaker 2: came out. You get on the phone, now call an

727
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:45,399
Speaker 2: airline to say what flight is Bucky Brooks on, then

728
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:47,240
Speaker 2: hang up on you. You can't do it with security

729
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:49,319
Speaker 2: right now, there's no way. But back in the day

730
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:51,200
Speaker 2: you could do it. It was great. He told me

731
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:52,719
Speaker 2: he was on this flight, so okay, I'll be down

732
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:55,080
Speaker 2: there now. I met him, found what hotel he's at,

733
00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:57,879
Speaker 2: and got into his room. But not today. You can't

734
00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:00,239
Speaker 2: even get into the hotel, let alone the airline. You

735
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:01,800
Speaker 2: couldn't get into the hotel today.

736
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:05,399
Speaker 1: You absolutely cannot nor should you be able to get

737
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:08,279
Speaker 1: to the hotel. The doors and no where everyone is.

738
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:10,200
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's a much different time when it comes

739
00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:12,480
Speaker 1: to that kind of stuff with security or whatever. But

740
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:16,920
Speaker 1: the uniform police is real and there guys to this

741
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 1: day that are still doing that checking uniforms, making sure

742
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:23,719
Speaker 1: everyone is properly equipped, making sure they adhere to the

743
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 1: NFL standards when it comes to the uniform.

744
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:28,480
Speaker 2: It's funny, I just found this out right now, you're

745
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:31,640
Speaker 2: one thousand percent correct. Bucket Brooks. The Anti DOUBLEA released

746
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:33,319
Speaker 2: his statement that over here it said that it's a

747
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 2: rule rule one section twenty five Autical seven head decorations, headwear, helmets,

748
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:41,480
Speaker 2: and jewelry are illegal. If a player is found to

749
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:44,520
Speaker 2: be wearing Julie Antiuba, rules state the player is required

750
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:46,920
Speaker 2: to remove it at the first dead ball and cannot

751
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:49,080
Speaker 2: return until they have to remove So, you're right, the

752
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:52,319
Speaker 2: coaches probably should have known about that, you know, Yeah,

753
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:53,000
Speaker 2: lost play.

754
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:55,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, they should have known about that. And even to

755
00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:59,279
Speaker 1: your point when you talk about like college players and

756
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:02,120
Speaker 1: stuff like that, Marvin Harrison Junior may have won to

757
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 1: watch during the game or like slipped it on because

758
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:07,880
Speaker 1: I know people made a big deal about that at

759
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:11,320
Speaker 1: one point. You now, you can't have those things, and

760
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:14,640
Speaker 1: if the officials knew that, they're directed to pull them

761
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:16,160
Speaker 1: out the game and tell them to take that off

762
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:19,120
Speaker 1: until and he can't come back in until all this

763
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:19,920
Speaker 1: suffers removed.

764
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Speaker 2: Now I have an extra thing to watch when I

765
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:23,960
Speaker 2: watch games on TV, to see what kind of jewelry

766
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:26,279
Speaker 2: they're wearing, the fat they are. That's what I'm gonna do.

767
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:29,200
Speaker 2: I will I'm gonna keep marking it down. That's what

768
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Speaker 2: I'll do. Bucky brooks Andy Furman, we are Fox Sports

769
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:35,760
Speaker 2: Sunday on Fox Sports Radio. Hey, you want answers. Here's

770
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:40,960
Speaker 2: the man, why as Bucky is next? All right, it's

771
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 2: time for ass Bucky. This is Fox Sports Sunday on

772
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:46,600
Speaker 2: Fox Sports. Ready is Bucky Brooks. I'm Andy Furman who

773
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:49,160
Speaker 2: went live from the ti raq dot Com studios. Let's

774
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:52,560
Speaker 2: get it going, next, Bucky Time, here we go. All right,

775
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:56,239
Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes and Travis kelcey to have a steakhouse. They're

776
00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 2: gonna have an a d Reed cheeseburger on the menu

777
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 2: at the New Downtown. I gonna ask you, Bucky Brooks,

778
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:07,000
Speaker 2: is it healthy for active teammates to engage in a

779
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:10,799
Speaker 2: business venture. I mean, honestly, what if someone complains about

780
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:13,879
Speaker 2: the Andy Richiesburger. I think there could be some conflicts here.

781
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 2: I don't think it's such a healthy move. What do

782
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 2: you think?

783
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:17,840
Speaker 1: Yeah? I mean I think you have to be careful

784
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:21,239
Speaker 1: going into business with your friends because they can ruin

785
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:23,640
Speaker 1: their relationship. The only thing that I will say is

786
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:27,880
Speaker 1: Pat Mahomes has some successful business ventures. I think Travis

787
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 1: Kelsey also has done some things independently, and maybe they

788
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:36,040
Speaker 1: have the acumen wherewithal and the solid friendship and business

789
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:37,279
Speaker 1: partnership to be able to make it.

790
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:39,480
Speaker 2: Happen sounds good to me. Now, if you are the

791
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:42,640
Speaker 2: commissioner of Major League Baseball, how would you, Bucky Brooks

792
00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:44,800
Speaker 2: handle the Shoheia Tani situation.

793
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 1: Well, you have to really investigate it because you don't

794
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:53,520
Speaker 1: want your best player involved in anything that look puss

795
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:57,400
Speaker 1: the game in a negative life. There already some squeamish

796
00:37:57,600 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 1: stomachs when it comes to sports and their intertwining of

797
00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:03,560
Speaker 1: sports and sports gambling. When you have a big star

798
00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 1: like Otani, uh, you just have to investigate it and

799
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:09,760
Speaker 1: make sure as well as you can to no links

800
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 1: between Otani and his involvement in the gamli that it

801
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 1: was all of the interpreter's stuff on his own.

802
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:18,799
Speaker 2: As an aside, do you think that perhaps Otani was

803
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:21,719
Speaker 2: giving him the money to gamble with that money rather

804
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:23,640
Speaker 2: than saying the money was stolen from him? Do you?

805
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:25,920
Speaker 2: How do you not realize four million plus dollars was

806
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:27,760
Speaker 2: stolen from your account? Really?

807
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:28,880
Speaker 1: When you have a lot when you have a lot

808
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:31,160
Speaker 1: of money, depending on what accounts it's in, I mean,

809
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:33,800
Speaker 1: you know, I would assume that a player like Otani

810
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:36,960
Speaker 1: probably has a regular checking and savings, but all of

811
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:39,640
Speaker 1: his millions are not into checking and savings. Accounts, then

812
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:43,880
Speaker 1: investment portfolios and others safe havens for money, and maybe

813
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:45,719
Speaker 1: he just didn't know. He wasn't aware when you have

814
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:47,279
Speaker 1: that much, I mean, we talked about the deal. He

815
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:49,880
Speaker 1: just he's just signed. When you have so much money,

816
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:54,320
Speaker 1: sometimes you can lose sight of a couple of million dollars.

817
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:58,440
Speaker 2: Well, I guess all right, speaking of Otani and the

818
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:01,799
Speaker 2: situation Pete roast that are last week, if he had

819
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:03,920
Speaker 2: an interpreter, he'd be in the Hall of Fame. Do

820
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 2: you agree?

821
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:08,719
Speaker 1: I mean, maybe you know. Here's the thing. I think

822
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:10,839
Speaker 1: Peek Pete Road should be in the Hall of Fame,

823
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:15,440
Speaker 1: regardless of the stuff that he has been accused of

824
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:18,160
Speaker 1: doing or victed of doing, or whatever it is. I

825
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:19,640
Speaker 1: think he should be in Hall of fame because what

826
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:21,799
Speaker 1: he did on the field is worthy of being a

827
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:23,719
Speaker 1: guy that's celebrated, is one of the best ever do it.

828
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:24,719
Speaker 2: I'm with you on that.

829
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:25,240
Speaker 1: Okay.

830
00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:30,120
Speaker 2: Your biggest surprise to date in the NTAA men's tournament.

831
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:33,960
Speaker 1: I think the biggest surprise is how NC State has

832
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:37,000
Speaker 1: been able to sustain their momentum from the ACC tournament.

833
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:40,080
Speaker 1: This was a team that was left for dead. They

834
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:41,920
Speaker 1: were struggling getting into the had lost four in a

835
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:44,640
Speaker 1: row going into the ACC tournament, and then they caught

836
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:47,719
Speaker 1: fire and they've been able to during that run not

837
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 1: only continue to maintain the momentum, but they found an

838
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:53,399
Speaker 1: identity that works for them. Wait, this is a big

839
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 1: deal for them to be in an elite eight with

840
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:59,040
Speaker 1: an opportunity to knock off Duke. I mean, they've beaten

841
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:01,879
Speaker 1: Duke in AC Tournament. They knocked off Carolina for NC State,

842
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:04,520
Speaker 1: this is everything. If they knock off Duke to go

843
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:06,200
Speaker 1: to the final four, this would be one of the

844
00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:08,040
Speaker 1: greatest seasons that they've ever been a part of.

845
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:11,160
Speaker 2: And I can't believe you're talking in such glowing terms

846
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:14,160
Speaker 2: of NC State a kind of an arch enemy of yours.

847
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:16,440
Speaker 2: I mean, really getting him a lot of credit. Give

848
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:17,000
Speaker 2: me some love.

849
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:20,760
Speaker 1: I mean, look, it's hard for me. I can't say anything.

850
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:24,120
Speaker 1: At some point State or Duke is going to the

851
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:26,400
Speaker 1: final four. I can't prevent it. So I just have

852
00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:28,960
Speaker 1: to accept it. And it is what it is right

853
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:30,640
Speaker 1: now for me. Andy, there you.

854
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 2: Go, all right, I tell you I got one more, biggie,

855
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:34,960
Speaker 2: but I'll hold that until after the top of the hour,

856
00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:38,000
Speaker 2: because you're running against the clock, right now he is

857
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:40,840
Speaker 2: Bucky Brooks and Andy Furman. Bucky has an early surprise

858
00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:44,239
Speaker 2: for next year's Super Bowl and more. Where next, I'm

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Speaker 2: this is Fox Sports Sunday on Fox Sports Radio. He

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Speaker 2: is Bucky Brooks, I'm Andy Furman, and we're broadcasting live

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Speaker 2: buying should be. And Bucky Brooks, I want to touch

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Speaker 2: back a little bit on this NCAA tournament if I may.

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Speaker 2: You showed a lot of love Tanacy Staton. Certainly they

872
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:26,040
Speaker 2: deserve so it's coming from a tar heel, which is

873
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:27,840
Speaker 2: kind of crazy. But one thing they asked you the

874
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Speaker 2: question John Calipari. He's going to return for season number

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Speaker 2: sixteen University of Kentucky. Last week Kentucky fired the women's coach,

876
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Speaker 2: but Calipari's coming back. Is that a shock to you?

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Speaker 2: To me, I guess to some extent that is. But

878
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:43,840
Speaker 2: he's got something like a thirty five million dollar buyout

879
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:46,440
Speaker 2: and I'll over signed that contract should be gone. Not

880
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Speaker 2: John Calipari.

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean, look, people gonna say a lot about

882
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:55,080
Speaker 1: Cali Parker. Caler Pari has certainly been good for Kentucky basketball.

883
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:56,799
Speaker 1: I mean, you look at the amount of winning they

884
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Speaker 1: do done since he's been there. If they were struggling,

885
00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:01,480
Speaker 1: they were up and down. John Cayler party coming. And

886
00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:03,480
Speaker 1: I know he hasn't won as many titles as they

887
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:06,879
Speaker 1: would like him to win. But I think in basketball,

888
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:09,239
Speaker 1: it's hard to judge people off really a six game

889
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:12,280
Speaker 1: run in the tournament. We have seen how topsy turvy

890
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:17,719
Speaker 1: the NCAA tournament has been. March Madness is a unique adventure,

891
00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:20,840
Speaker 1: and look, it's not built for every team to be

892
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:24,040
Speaker 1: able to thrive and flourish in those moments. He's done

893
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:26,799
Speaker 1: a really good job throughout a time. He's talked about

894
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:29,680
Speaker 1: the amount of pros that they've gotten. But I would

895
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Speaker 1: say maybe the formula that he's used in the blueprint

896
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:35,080
Speaker 1: that he's used in recent years to one and done's

897
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:38,400
Speaker 1: that might be hard to win in today's climate, just

898
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:40,399
Speaker 1: because the older teams are the ones that are really

899
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Speaker 1: whipping people. And I just don't know if you can

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Speaker 1: win an NCAA tournament with so much youth and an

901
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:47,480
Speaker 1: experience in your key positions.

902
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:49,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think coaches have caught up to his idea

903
00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:51,239
Speaker 2: of the want and done. You know, I think we

904
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:53,239
Speaker 2: really upset a lot of the alums, a lot of

905
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Speaker 2: people in and around the Commonwealth of Kentucky. After Kentucky

906
00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:59,040
Speaker 2: lost to Oakland Is at his news conference, he wasn't

907
00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:02,120
Speaker 2: taking it, wasn't taking responsibility. He was saying that how

908
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:05,239
Speaker 2: all his graduates are making so much money in the

909
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:08,840
Speaker 2: pros and whatever it may be. People don't care. Alums

910
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:10,960
Speaker 2: don't care. Theyn't want to see people do well. We're

911
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:14,359
Speaker 2: in the Kentucky uniform, not an NBA team uniform. And

912
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:17,120
Speaker 2: he kind of pushed it aside and saying, well, you know,

913
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Speaker 2: my graduates are going to the NBA, who are prepping

914
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Speaker 2: them for the NBA. I don't think people really want

915
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 2: to hear that they want to win and win now.

916
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:25,319
Speaker 2: But it was good. I mean, as far as you

917
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:28,600
Speaker 2: know his psychology is concerned, it was great. He kind

918
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:31,520
Speaker 2: of pushed it off his responsibility and blamed it on

919
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:33,680
Speaker 2: other things and said, look, it's not my fault. They're

920
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:35,719
Speaker 2: making good money in the NBA. And there we go.

921
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Speaker 2: So he's back, and I think, as you say, he's

922
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:41,319
Speaker 2: done a good job there. And you can't judge a

923
00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:44,600
Speaker 2: guy on a tournament. You just can't do it. And

924
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:46,520
Speaker 2: speaking of the tournament, there's some talk now they want

925
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:50,839
Speaker 2: to expand it, maybe to ninety eight teams. I'm not

926
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Speaker 2: for that. I'm really not. As much as I love

927
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Speaker 2: basketball and college basketball, you know, it's like getting the

928
00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 2: participation trophy in little league. I mean, come, I everybody

929
00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:02,279
Speaker 2: shouldn't go. It's not fair everybody. Really, no, it's not.

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Speaker 1: It's not for everybody. And it's been it's definitely been

931
00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:11,239
Speaker 1: a different uh thing to expand one, for it to

932
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Speaker 1: go from sixty four to sixty eight and and those things.

933
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Speaker 1: At some point you're like, man, okay, how many how

934
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:19,240
Speaker 1: many more teams can we add to the mix? Everyone

935
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Speaker 1: can't go, uh to the tournament. I like the interest.

936
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Speaker 1: I know they're talking about the money and the automatic bids,

937
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:30,080
Speaker 1: and so many guys that are not that are so

938
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Speaker 1: many teams that are being left out because of the

939
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:35,200
Speaker 1: they call them the bid steelers, the teams that are

940
00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:40,480
Speaker 1: winning the tournaments and they're they're not accounted for kind

941
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:42,560
Speaker 1: of messing up. But I mean, that's that's that's what

942
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Speaker 1: it is. That's part of the fun and watching college

943
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:48,799
Speaker 1: basketball is that once you get the March and you

944
00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:52,759
Speaker 1: get to the conference tournaments and to the March Madness,

945
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:56,600
Speaker 1: the NC Double A Tournament, anything goes. And you know

946
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Speaker 1: a lot of people don't like having their coaching fate

947
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:01,520
Speaker 1: and things hen to those kinds of things.

948
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Speaker 2: Now I'm gonna get personally with you. Have you checked

949
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:07,400
Speaker 2: your bracket challenge? The Fox Sports Radio Bracket Challenge?

950
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 1: I had to quit looking at it.

951
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 2: I haven't even looked, so, I mean, if anybody has

952
00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:14,440
Speaker 2: checked it out, they could let me know where Bucky

953
00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:17,239
Speaker 2: Brooks Rice stand on that. So I know I didn't

954
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Speaker 2: do well, but I can't believe anybody has really done

955
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:22,680
Speaker 2: excellent in that. It's just so difficult to get beat

956
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:25,040
Speaker 2: up so early on. But I don't think I did

957
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:26,640
Speaker 2: well at all. But so we move on to football

958
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:29,560
Speaker 2: because that's your expertise. Although you're a genius in all sports,

959
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:31,960
Speaker 2: you really are, Bucky Brooks really the player to Scout,

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00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:34,759
Speaker 2: the coach and writer for NFL dot Com this week,

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Speaker 2: a true Super Bowl contender for twenty twenty four, and

962
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:41,799
Speaker 2: you mentioned the Green Bay Packers. I was a little

963
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:44,440
Speaker 2: bit shocked on that. And you talked about Jordan Love

964
00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:47,400
Speaker 2: the Jordan Love led Packers, And after I read that,

965
00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:51,520
Speaker 2: my first thought was just think, Aaron Rodgers is going

966
00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:53,640
Speaker 2: to pick this up and read this. What do you

967
00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:57,320
Speaker 2: think Aaron Rodgers is saying after reading this, the Jordan

968
00:45:57,440 --> 00:46:00,400
Speaker 2: Love led Packers could be a true Super Bowl contender

969
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:02,960
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty four. What do you think Aaron Rodgers'

970
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:03,760
Speaker 2: remarks would.

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Speaker 1: Be, Look, he shouldn't be focused on the Packers since

972
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:09,919
Speaker 1: he's went the Jets. But this team has gotten better

973
00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:13,400
Speaker 1: without Aaron Rodgers because as great as Aaron Rodgers was

974
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:16,080
Speaker 1: as a four time MVP, he was holding him back

975
00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:18,959
Speaker 1: from some of the development of their younger players. Aaron

976
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:22,359
Speaker 1: Rodgers liked who he liked on the perimeter. He liked

977
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:25,280
Speaker 1: older guys who he could trust, who he had established

978
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:28,880
Speaker 1: a rapport with, and those It was great when Davante

979
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:32,520
Speaker 1: Adams was there. When you know Jordan Nelson and Ronald

980
00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:34,440
Speaker 1: Cobb and James Jones were there like it was a

981
00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:37,440
Speaker 1: great run, but at some point those guys age out

982
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:41,040
Speaker 1: where they're no longer effective, particularly based on the production

983
00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:45,200
Speaker 1: doesn't match to compensation. To continue to pay Aaron Rodgers

984
00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:47,120
Speaker 1: where they were paying them, they needed to infuse the

985
00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:50,279
Speaker 1: room with a bunch of young players. He didn't come

986
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 1: to the offseason workouts before his final season with the

987
00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:56,719
Speaker 1: young players, and then was mad when Christian Watson and

988
00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:59,520
Speaker 1: those guys weren't on the same page. And so the

989
00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:02,239
Speaker 1: French guys knew that they would never be able to

990
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:05,840
Speaker 1: develop their young players with Annon Rodgers in the building,

991
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:08,840
Speaker 1: so they remove him. He gets traded away. He was

992
00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:11,640
Speaker 1: happy and fine to do that, and now they have

993
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:14,080
Speaker 1: a young quarterback in Jordan Love who has a better

994
00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:16,560
Speaker 1: report with the younger players, and they're playing with a

995
00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:18,800
Speaker 1: bunch of look first and second year players on a

996
00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:23,000
Speaker 1: perimeter and having success and that success should grow going

997
00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:26,480
Speaker 1: into this year because it's a better overall team. Yeah.

998
00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:28,200
Speaker 1: I mean, look, he can be upset, but like he

999
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:31,880
Speaker 1: kind of held them back with his attitude, with his

1000
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:33,880
Speaker 1: own philosophy when it came to who he wanted to

1001
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 1: throw the ball to on the perimeter.

1002
00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:37,719
Speaker 2: I'm reading there's an NFL dot com which you put

1003
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:40,759
Speaker 2: up there every Friday, and it's tremendous. I didn't know.

1004
00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:44,080
Speaker 2: This is unbelievable because I don't think Green Bay got

1005
00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:46,200
Speaker 2: the respect or Jordan Love didn't get the respect that

1006
00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:49,040
Speaker 2: he should have. After I read this back half of

1007
00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:51,520
Speaker 2: the schedule. Last year, he led the Green Bay package,

1008
00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:53,440
Speaker 2: who was six and two record. He said he played

1009
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:56,520
Speaker 2: like an MVP candidate. Look completed over seventy percent of

1010
00:47:56,560 --> 00:47:59,439
Speaker 2: his passes, twenty one hundred and fifty yards, two hundred

1011
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:03,680
Speaker 2: sixty eight game, eighteen touchdowns, one I int and added

1012
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:06,000
Speaker 2: another two scores on the ground. And of course we

1013
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:08,640
Speaker 2: knew about what happened on the Super Bowl wild Card weekend.

1014
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:11,480
Speaker 2: They beat up the Cowboys pretty good forty eight to

1015
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:15,160
Speaker 2: thirty two, and really and truly this team really developed

1016
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:17,759
Speaker 2: and blossomed at that point in time. I watched that

1017
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 2: playoff game beating the Cowboys because everybody was thinking, maybe

1018
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:23,640
Speaker 2: it's not Green Bay as much as the Cowboys just

1019
00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:26,120
Speaker 2: can't get it done. But it is Green Bay, And

1020
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:29,240
Speaker 2: you're saying right now they're a legitimate Super Bowl contended

1021
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:33,520
Speaker 2: for next year, although I do question trading their running

1022
00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:34,520
Speaker 2: back Aaron Jones.

1023
00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:38,880
Speaker 1: You know, I don't question that at all. I mean,

1024
00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:40,480
Speaker 1: Aaron Jones has been beat up, he had been hurt

1025
00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:42,359
Speaker 1: the last few years, and I would say they got

1026
00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:45,600
Speaker 1: to upgrade in a position in Josh Jacobs. Josh Jacobs

1027
00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:49,080
Speaker 1: an NFL rushing champion. Josh Jacobs is someone that when

1028
00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:52,960
Speaker 1: the defense lines up to prepare the game plan for him,

1029
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:55,960
Speaker 1: they have to take him away. That means more one

1030
00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:58,879
Speaker 1: on one opportunities for Jordan Love in the backfield, more

1031
00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:04,440
Speaker 1: big play opportunity of these off playfakes and where you

1032
00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:06,759
Speaker 1: lure the linebackers up to the line and he's able

1033
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:09,320
Speaker 1: to take shots down to field. To me, this is

1034
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:12,360
Speaker 1: a completely different look for the Green Bay Packers because

1035
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:14,920
Speaker 1: of their running game and their running game being legit.

1036
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:17,319
Speaker 1: It changes the way you have to defend people. He's

1037
00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:20,040
Speaker 1: going to create more opportunities for Dredd and Love to

1038
00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:21,279
Speaker 1: take his game to a higher level.

1039
00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:23,840
Speaker 2: Oh, let's talk about Josh Jacis versus. How does the

1040
00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:24,920
Speaker 2: team let a guy like that go?

1041
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:25,719
Speaker 1: All?

1042
00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:25,880
Speaker 6: Right?

1043
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:26,879
Speaker 2: How does job Jake?

1044
00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:27,160
Speaker 1: He look?

1045
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:29,320
Speaker 2: He's only twenty six years of age. He was a

1046
00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:32,120
Speaker 2: first round pick back in twenty twenty two. Rushing Champion

1047
00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:36,640
Speaker 2: NFL thousand mark runs in three of his five NFL years.

1048
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:38,640
Speaker 2: Does he How does the team let a guy let

1049
00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:38,920
Speaker 2: that go?

1050
00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:41,960
Speaker 1: Well, I mean at the previous place, but the Las

1051
00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:44,720
Speaker 1: Vegas Raiders, Josh mc dangers and those guys didn't value

1052
00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:47,600
Speaker 1: what he brought to the table as a workhorse, so

1053
00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:50,880
Speaker 1: he never signs a long term deal that and then

1054
00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:53,080
Speaker 1: last year he got hurt, got beat up a little bit,

1055
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:56,160
Speaker 1: and that probably diminished his value within the building. But

1056
00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:58,080
Speaker 1: for the Green Bay Packers, they're looking at a guy

1057
00:49:58,160 --> 00:49:59,759
Speaker 1: who was young, who didn't have a lot of tread

1058
00:49:59,840 --> 00:50:02,000
Speaker 1: on I mean, who still has a lot of tread

1059
00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:04,880
Speaker 1: on the tire because of the few amount of reps

1060
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:07,560
Speaker 1: that he took as a collegiate. And even in the league,

1061
00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:10,319
Speaker 1: they're willing to go all in because he also gives

1062
00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:13,480
Speaker 1: them a physicality and a toughness that they didn't have

1063
00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:15,600
Speaker 1: in previous years. They can kind of grind it out,

1064
00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:17,800
Speaker 1: kind of knock it down with the bully, like go

1065
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:21,000
Speaker 1: toe to toe and those tough games because they got

1066
00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:23,040
Speaker 1: a running back and that's only going to make life

1067
00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:24,920
Speaker 1: easy for those receivers on the perimeter.

1068
00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:27,840
Speaker 2: You know, maybe they just thought that the position running

1069
00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:30,080
Speaker 2: back is not as valuable as it should be with

1070
00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:32,239
Speaker 2: the Raiders, and they let him go. But I do

1071
00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:34,360
Speaker 2: believe that at the age of twenty six, what was

1072
00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:36,400
Speaker 2: the Aaron Jones. He had to be like thirty one,

1073
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Speaker 2: wasn't he. So there's an age difference there. And you

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00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:40,880
Speaker 2: said he was beat up as far as injuries were concerned,

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Speaker 2: So but still at all. I mean, look, I know

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00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:45,040
Speaker 2: money is a major factor.

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Speaker 1: I get that.

1078
00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:48,839
Speaker 2: But to go from la and to play in the cold,

1079
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Speaker 2: a bitter cold, the tundra of Green Bay, I think

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00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:53,759
Speaker 2: I think twice about that. Really.

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Speaker 1: Uh yeah, No, I don't know. I think it's about

1082
00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:02,840
Speaker 1: it's about opportunities and opportunities to win Super Bowls. And

1083
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:06,359
Speaker 1: this team is well positioned to make a Super Bowl

1084
00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:10,080
Speaker 1: run because look, Josh Saykis could look around and see

1085
00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:13,080
Speaker 1: the pieces in place. Their defense has the weaponry, has

1086
00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:15,480
Speaker 1: the personnel to be an elite defense. They have that

1087
00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:17,960
Speaker 1: kind of personnel. Offensively, you have to be impressed with

1088
00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:19,880
Speaker 1: all the young guys and how they played. And then

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00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:23,520
Speaker 1: when it comes to anything, the quarterback, the quarterback is everything.

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00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:27,120
Speaker 1: And Jordan Love showed after all the doubts and that stuff,

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00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:31,640
Speaker 1: that hey, maybe he's a legit big time quarterback. They

1092
00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:36,080
Speaker 1: took their time developing him, and now he is ready

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00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:39,360
Speaker 1: to make that stuff and become almost maybe an elite

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00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:40,120
Speaker 1: player at the position.

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Speaker 2: I'm glad you mentioned quarterback, but you also wrote on

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Speaker 2: NFL dot com about a quarterback who happened to have

1097
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Speaker 2: been the number two overall back in twenty twenty one,

1098
00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:50,480
Speaker 2: and now we can't even get on the field and

1099
00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:52,359
Speaker 2: he's on the Jets. His name is Zach Wilson. I'm

1100
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:54,920
Speaker 2: sure they want to unload this guy. And look, here's

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00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:58,040
Speaker 2: the question I have. You're another two pick, all right,

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00:51:58,560 --> 00:52:02,240
Speaker 2: and I'd like to find that out. Who in fact

1103
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:05,640
Speaker 2: made that pick. Who's the guy that hollered out his name?

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00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:09,640
Speaker 2: Why isn't that guy responsible? Coaches get fired all the

1105
00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:12,720
Speaker 2: time when teams don't win. Coach didn't pick up Zach Wilson.

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00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:15,960
Speaker 2: Some guy in the war room said, Zach Wilson, we

1107
00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:19,000
Speaker 2: want him. That's the guy that should be put on

1108
00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:21,919
Speaker 2: the hot seat because he picked this guy and he's

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00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:24,360
Speaker 2: been really, as you say, a disaster.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but everyone everyone's responsible. Because the general manager cannot

1111
00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:33,760
Speaker 1: pick players without the input from the coaches. The coaches

1112
00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:36,080
Speaker 1: are tasked with developing the players once they get into

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Speaker 1: the building. I will say this, and look, Zach Wilson

1114
00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:41,960
Speaker 1: hasn't been what many expected him to be. But I

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00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:43,840
Speaker 1: can't say that the jest did a great job of

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00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:47,279
Speaker 1: setting him up. He comes in, he had a a

1117
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:50,840
Speaker 1: first time play caller and Mike Lafleur running the offense

1118
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:53,560
Speaker 1: in New York didn't really go well for them, didn't

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Speaker 1: really mess didn't job some of that as a quarterback.

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Speaker 1: Some of this is a play caller, and a lot

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Speaker 1: of that is the surrounding personnel. You then have Zach Wilson,

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00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:07,360
Speaker 1: who may not have kind of shown like that desire,

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Speaker 1: that that industriousness, that heavy work ethic that some expect

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00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:13,760
Speaker 1: from the QB one. He lost the trust of his teammates.

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00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:16,840
Speaker 1: That's on him, you know. But when they're openly backing

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00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:21,240
Speaker 1: Mike White, they're applauding Joe Flacco and anything and everything

1127
00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:23,920
Speaker 1: they did, some of that is a Zach Wilson problem.

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Speaker 1: So everyone is responsible for it, the general manager, the

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00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:29,920
Speaker 1: head coach for the failing, even the court, I mean

1130
00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:33,879
Speaker 1: the quarterback. But yeah, it extends beyond just the person

1131
00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:34,480
Speaker 1: who picked him.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And the funny thing is, I think where Zach

1133
00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:39,279
Speaker 2: Wilson went down the tubes. I know his reckless twelve

1134
00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:41,160
Speaker 2: and twenty one, but he's played on a bad team

1135
00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:42,920
Speaker 2: and they just haven't been in the playoffs for like

1136
00:53:43,040 --> 00:53:45,600
Speaker 2: some fifteen years. But I remember after one loss, I

1137
00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:48,000
Speaker 2: believe it was a year ago, he was in the

1138
00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:50,279
Speaker 2: postgame news conference and he said it wasn't on him,

1139
00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:52,959
Speaker 2: and you can't do that. You got to you gotta

1140
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:56,799
Speaker 2: take responsibility, even if it wasn't on him, you got

1141
00:53:56,920 --> 00:53:59,480
Speaker 2: to say the right things. And that really I had

1142
00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:02,800
Speaker 2: to believe, made the separation between he and the players

1143
00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:04,920
Speaker 2: in the locker room, and it wasn't good, it wasn't healthy.

1144
00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:07,080
Speaker 2: And from that time on, I think he lost the team.

1145
00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:08,040
Speaker 2: I really believe that.

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00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:13,400
Speaker 1: Oh I can believe that. Yeah, it's it's tough. It's

1147
00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:16,480
Speaker 1: a situation where the quarterback not only has to be

1148
00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:19,399
Speaker 1: super talented physically, but he has to be a high

1149
00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:24,719
Speaker 1: level leader with great intangibles. And Zach Wilson's immaturity hurt

1150
00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:27,520
Speaker 1: him in some instances where he didn't answer those questions

1151
00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:30,680
Speaker 1: the right way. And in that market, the New York market,

1152
00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:36,440
Speaker 1: with everything is examined two, three, four times, every interaction,

1153
00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:40,080
Speaker 1: every conversation. In those things, he didn't endear himself to

1154
00:54:40,560 --> 00:54:42,680
Speaker 1: his teammates or the public with his actions.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're going to find out in a few minutes

1156
00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:47,799
Speaker 2: where he may end up. But first, right now, we're

1157
00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:49,320
Speaker 2: going to let you know that you can get Bucket

1158
00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:51,640
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Speaker 2: call it at Buckie Brooks or had Andy Furman fs

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Speaker 2: R Betty Yet we'd love to hear from you. Eight

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Speaker 2: betting in this hour. We've got the blame game coming

1164
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Speaker 2: up an hour number three, and of course, of course

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Speaker 2: it's a homecoming for one NFL performer that's coming up

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Speaker 2: next live from the tie rack dot com studios. Can

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Speaker 2: he really make a difference, Well, that's right around the corner.

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1178
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Speaker 2: I want to follow up on this situation with Zach.

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Speaker 2: All Right, Zach Wilson quarterback of the New York Jets,

1180
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Speaker 2: and you say where he may end up. And it's

1181
00:55:54,280 --> 00:55:56,759
Speaker 2: funny because you, after reading this at NFL dot Com book,

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00:55:57,800 --> 00:56:01,560
Speaker 2: you do not necessarily lay Zack Wilson on a team

1183
00:56:01,600 --> 00:56:04,080
Speaker 2: that needs a quarterback. You're putting him on a team

1184
00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:07,480
Speaker 2: that has a great offensive mind, that head coach. That's

1185
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Speaker 2: what I got out of reading that article on Friday.

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Speaker 2: Am I correct on that?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? No, I think you are correct. It's about finding

1188
00:56:17,080 --> 00:56:19,560
Speaker 1: the right fit. It's the coach, it's the environment. It's

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00:56:19,600 --> 00:56:21,359
Speaker 1: the coach and the only a handful of guys who

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00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:24,120
Speaker 1: have the experience and the ability to be able to

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00:56:24,239 --> 00:56:27,239
Speaker 1: set him up for success. After watching him fail and

1192
00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:30,200
Speaker 1: flop in New York as appearing to me now more

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00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:35,680
Speaker 1: than ever, coaching and the environment matters more to Zach

1194
00:56:35,719 --> 00:56:38,800
Speaker 1: Wilson than just the playbook. So he has to be

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00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:41,640
Speaker 1: with someone that supports him, someone that has approven track

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00:56:41,719 --> 00:56:44,520
Speaker 1: record being able to develop young players. That's where I

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Speaker 1: would go from Zack Wilson. I want someone.

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Speaker 2: And one of those teams you mentioned is the Kansas

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Speaker 2: City Chiefs, and people would say, why are you kidding me?

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00:56:49,680 --> 00:56:52,839
Speaker 2: They got Patrick Mahomes. But it's not Patrick Mahomes as much.

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00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:55,879
Speaker 2: Who needs Zack Wilson. It's the guy that could maybe

1202
00:56:56,080 --> 00:56:59,040
Speaker 2: teach and tutor Zack Wilson. And as the head coach,

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00:56:59,080 --> 00:57:01,920
Speaker 2: Andy Reid, who did very similar work I guess with

1204
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Speaker 2: Michael Vick in Philadelphia.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's done a lot of work with a lot

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00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:08,959
Speaker 1: of quarterbacks throughout his time. So you think about in Philadelphia,

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Speaker 1: and let me go back for disclosure, Andy Reid and

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00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:13,920
Speaker 1: I were together in Green Bay. Andy Reid was a

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00:57:13,960 --> 00:57:17,520
Speaker 1: tight ends coach who was evlevated a quarterback coach before

1210
00:57:17,600 --> 00:57:20,640
Speaker 1: taking over as the Philadelphia Eagles head coach, and he

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00:57:20,720 --> 00:57:22,960
Speaker 1: took a lot with a lot of the same things

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00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:25,360
Speaker 1: that the Green Bay Packers did under Mike Hongwren. He

1213
00:57:25,520 --> 00:57:27,720
Speaker 1: took that with him and one of the things that

1214
00:57:27,800 --> 00:57:30,240
Speaker 1: they did is they always believed in having multiple quarterbacks

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00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:32,800
Speaker 1: on the roster. Wanted they could develop and they could

1216
00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:36,800
Speaker 1: turn that into a potential trade chip or upgrade the

1217
00:57:36,880 --> 00:57:40,120
Speaker 1: depth on the team always wanted to be in the

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00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:42,560
Speaker 1: quarterback business is kind of how they referenced it.

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Speaker 7: Well.

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Speaker 1: Andy Reid took the same philosophy he helped with Donovan mcmahd,

1221
00:57:46,840 --> 00:57:49,640
Speaker 1: but then along the way he not only helped aj

1222
00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:53,800
Speaker 1: Fielly and Kevin Cobb become tradable commodities that they where

1223
00:57:53,840 --> 00:57:57,960
Speaker 1: they benefited from directly playing their young player, but now

1224
00:57:58,320 --> 00:58:02,000
Speaker 1: he also had taken over the Michael Vick Recognition project

1225
00:58:02,120 --> 00:58:05,320
Speaker 1: and helped Michael repair his career after being incarcerated for

1226
00:58:05,360 --> 00:58:08,120
Speaker 1: two years and return to being a Pro Bowl caliber player.

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Speaker 1: That's what you want if you're Zach Wilson. You want

1228
00:58:11,160 --> 00:58:14,600
Speaker 1: to sit with someone who understands how to help guys

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00:58:15,040 --> 00:58:18,680
Speaker 1: become better quarterbacks, better pros and to do that. And

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Speaker 1: even though you may not play with Pat Mahomes and Trench,

1231
00:58:21,920 --> 00:58:24,880
Speaker 1: you certainly cane learn a lot from those practices. And

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00:58:25,040 --> 00:58:27,560
Speaker 1: for the Chiefs it makes sense because it's a cheaper,

1233
00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:30,000
Speaker 1: talented quarterback coming into the building.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and another landing spot you mentioned with Zach Wilson

1235
00:58:32,640 --> 00:58:35,320
Speaker 2: could be another coach who's had success with quarterbacks as

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Speaker 2: Sean Payton in Denver, although he hadn't had much luck

1237
00:58:38,200 --> 00:58:40,400
Speaker 2: with Russell Wilson, but he had a lot of luck

1238
00:58:40,440 --> 00:58:41,960
Speaker 2: with New Orleans with Drew Brees.

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00:58:42,960 --> 00:58:44,560
Speaker 1: He did have a lot of luck with Drew Brees,

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00:58:44,800 --> 00:58:47,280
Speaker 1: and he had a lot of luck. I want to

1241
00:58:47,280 --> 00:58:49,480
Speaker 1: say that he was very instrumental early on. You know

1242
00:58:49,560 --> 00:58:52,160
Speaker 1: when the Cowboys aroun an Tony Romo and that stuff.

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00:58:52,160 --> 00:58:57,200
Speaker 1: I think this is one where you are trying to

1244
00:58:58,040 --> 00:59:02,000
Speaker 1: like look the goal like trying to hit the slot machine.

1245
00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:04,840
Speaker 1: You're trying to really come up and make it happen.

1246
00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:07,920
Speaker 1: I believe that Sean Payton would be good. Now the

1247
00:59:08,040 --> 00:59:12,960
Speaker 1: tough love, tough love would be something that Zach Wilson

1248
00:59:12,960 --> 00:59:15,640
Speaker 1: would have to get used to, the hard coaching in

1249
00:59:15,720 --> 00:59:19,280
Speaker 1: those things, but I think it would work out well

1250
00:59:19,400 --> 00:59:22,040
Speaker 1: for him. And Sean Payton did spend three years with

1251
00:59:22,600 --> 00:59:25,960
Speaker 1: Tony Romo in Dallas, going from andrafted dominic guy that

1252
00:59:26,040 --> 00:59:29,120
Speaker 1: started games for the Cowboys. You're thinking about that tutoring,

1253
00:59:29,240 --> 00:59:31,880
Speaker 1: that nurturing, all of that stuff that should help him

1254
00:59:31,960 --> 00:59:34,640
Speaker 1: really get the best out of Zach Wilson.

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Speaker 2: All here's a situation.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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00:59:37,760 --> 00:59:40,520
Speaker 2: You also say that the charges of LA could be

1258
00:59:40,560 --> 00:59:43,280
Speaker 2: a landing stuff as Zach Wilson new head coach, did

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Speaker 2: Jim Harbor and obviously Harbord did coach in college at

1260
00:59:46,600 --> 00:59:50,680
Speaker 2: Andrew Luckt Stanford. However, he's very high on JJ McCarthy.

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Speaker 2: He's guy at Michigan. All right, I ask you this

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00:59:53,600 --> 00:59:56,160
Speaker 2: would and JJ McCarthy's a winner and everybody's saying that

1263
00:59:56,600 --> 00:59:59,160
Speaker 2: the winning is probably maybe more important than a skill set.

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00:59:59,240 --> 01:00:02,800
Speaker 2: Who knows. I don't, But would JJ McCarthy been as

1265
01:00:02,840 --> 01:00:07,480
Speaker 2: successful at any other school not being coached by Jim Harbor,

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Speaker 2: or did Jim Harbor make that much of a difference

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Speaker 2: with JJ?

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Speaker 1: I would say, I don't know, like physically how much

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01:00:13,520 --> 01:00:16,160
Speaker 1: of a difference he made, but I know mentally absolutely.

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Speaker 1: When you listen to j JJ talks about the team,

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01:00:18,760 --> 01:00:21,280
Speaker 1: he talks about toughness, about talks about doing the little

1272
01:00:21,320 --> 01:00:24,480
Speaker 1: things necessary to win games, and how the only thing

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01:00:25,160 --> 01:00:27,960
Speaker 1: is winning every quarterback that you poll, that's not what

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01:00:28,080 --> 01:00:30,760
Speaker 1: they're talking about, that's not what their focus is. Their

1275
01:00:30,800 --> 01:00:33,640
Speaker 1: focus might be on running up the pat you know,

1276
01:00:33,800 --> 01:00:36,280
Speaker 1: running up the stats so they can get a bigger check.

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01:00:37,480 --> 01:00:40,400
Speaker 1: Some of them won't have the ability to check their

1278
01:00:40,400 --> 01:00:43,640
Speaker 1: eager in the door to be a facilitator on an

1279
01:00:43,680 --> 01:00:46,080
Speaker 1: offense that's a run first offense. This is a four

1280
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Speaker 1: to five star recruit that decided he's going to Michigan

1281
01:00:49,800 --> 01:00:52,080
Speaker 1: knowing full well that they're going to run the football.

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Speaker 1: To me, that speaks volumes about his intangibles. He speaks

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Speaker 1: volumes about what he wants to do and what he

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Speaker 1: was sacrificed to win games. That's the kind of player

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Speaker 1: that I would be encouraged to be around because you

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Speaker 1: know that he's gonna give his all to do it

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Speaker 1: the way that you want it done. And his ego

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Speaker 1: is not necessarily tied to being the guy who has

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Speaker 1: to throw at thirty to forty times a game.

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Speaker 2: What happens now? And obviously you work in the NFL,

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Speaker 2: You've been there, you played there. You see things happen

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Speaker 2: all the time. If Zach Wilson gets picked up by

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Speaker 2: one of these teams, either Denver Charges maybe Kansas City,

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Speaker 2: who knows where, and he turns it around, that starting

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Speaker 2: quarterback gets hurt. He comes in, learns the system, the

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Speaker 2: coach has confidence in him, and he does well. Maybe

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Speaker 2: takes a team to a playoff. What does that do

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Speaker 2: besides put egg on the face of the Jets and

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Speaker 2: their coaching staff.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it certainly puts egg on the face of

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Speaker 1: the Jets. If he goes somewhere else and plays well, yeah,

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Speaker 1: they're gonna say it's a coaching and development problem. That's

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Speaker 1: the issue. Woody Johnson will say that how come this

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Speaker 1: guy can play so well for Andy Reid in Kansas

1305
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Speaker 1: City but he couldn't play well for us here? Then

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Speaker 1: have second thoughts about why did that keep these as

1307
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Speaker 1: If they can develop the most important position in the

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Speaker 1: game for Wilson, they have to make a decision whether

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Speaker 1: they're gonna trade them or cut them, you know, will

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Speaker 1: someone throw a seventh round pick at him just to

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Speaker 1: make sure they secure his services. And then they have

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Speaker 1: to cast their eyes right away to what they're gonna

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Speaker 1: do with the fifth year option and that stuff. All

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Speaker 1: of that stuff matters, and so it's still fluid as

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Speaker 1: a work in progress. But I would expect to see

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Speaker 1: him somewhere and hopefully those three teams that we mentioned,

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Speaker 1: the La Chargers on the Jim Harborough at the kan

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Speaker 1: City Chiefs and the Denver Broncos could provide them a

1319
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Speaker 1: nice little land. It's about waking bounce back.

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Speaker 2: And you'd like to see a guy got a second

1321
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Speaker 2: chance there too, because obviously, as soon as the Jets

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Speaker 2: signed up on Aaron Rodgers, you know, he was finished,

1323
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Speaker 2: you know. And it would have been great if Aaron

1324
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Speaker 2: Rodgers was playing and not hurt, because maybe Zack could

1325
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Speaker 2: have learned a little bit from Aaron throughout the course

1326
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Speaker 2: of the season. But didn't work out that way. He

1327
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Speaker 2: was thrown into action, and obviously we saw what happened.

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Speaker 2: It didn't work out well at all.

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Speaker 1: So no, it didn't work out. It's unfortunate, but both

1330
01:03:02,680 --> 01:03:04,800
Speaker 1: are gone because the Jets are the win now many

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01:03:04,800 --> 01:03:06,760
Speaker 1: they need to win this year or that. An entire

1332
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Speaker 1: coaching staff and maybe the general manager and person that's

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Speaker 1: up they're all gone. So it's a lot of pressure

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Speaker 1: on working done.

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Speaker 2: Every yeh And it should be you know, it should

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Speaker 2: be pre I mean, and I'll tell you why. Not

1337
01:03:18,160 --> 01:03:21,120
Speaker 2: so much for the ownership, not so much for players

1338
01:03:21,160 --> 01:03:24,440
Speaker 2: that play. I think, just be pressure for hard working

1339
01:03:24,680 --> 01:03:27,400
Speaker 2: fans that pay good money to see a team play

1340
01:03:27,920 --> 01:03:30,000
Speaker 2: and the gun flushing it down the toilet because the

1341
01:03:30,040 --> 01:03:32,520
Speaker 2: team never wins. Was it fifteen years since the Jets

1342
01:03:32,560 --> 01:03:36,000
Speaker 2: have been in the playoffs, Come on, really get it,

1343
01:03:36,160 --> 01:03:39,040
Speaker 2: get it right. I don't think it's that difficult, is

1344
01:03:39,120 --> 01:03:40,480
Speaker 2: it to put a team together?

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Speaker 1: Can't It's hard to be consistent. And their struggles have

1346
01:03:45,200 --> 01:03:47,880
Speaker 1: been with their consistency, like consistently taking care of the ball,

1347
01:03:47,960 --> 01:03:50,040
Speaker 1: consistently making the plays are there to be made on

1348
01:03:50,120 --> 01:03:53,400
Speaker 1: third down, winning in two minutes. All those things have

1349
01:03:53,560 --> 01:03:55,960
Speaker 1: been issues. And then defensively, they have to turn the

1350
01:03:56,040 --> 01:03:58,640
Speaker 1: ball over more. They haven't created more takeaways. They need

1351
01:03:58,760 --> 01:04:02,400
Speaker 1: more opportunities. That's where they can benefit this offense, giving

1352
01:04:02,440 --> 01:04:06,120
Speaker 1: them more cracks and more bite. Said to Apple, defensive

1353
01:04:06,160 --> 01:04:08,880
Speaker 1: blame to go around, even though we've said they've been,

1354
01:04:09,680 --> 01:04:12,640
Speaker 1: you know, like they've shown signs of coming. But yeah,

1355
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Speaker 1: there's a lot of stuff just going on with.

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Speaker 2: It, no doubt about that.

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Speaker 1: All right.

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Speaker 2: He's Bucket Brooks on Ady Firm, and we are Fox

1359
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Speaker 2: Sports Sunday on Fox Sports RDY. By the way, owners

1360
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Speaker 2: should be seen and not heard. Oh but this man

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Speaker 2: should be heard. Of course he should be because we've

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Speaker 2: got Kevin Wirt coming up next with all your sports.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, we're in the Elite eight round of March Madness

1364
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Speaker 5: and two games have been played on Saturday two teams

1365
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Speaker 5: punching their ticket into this year's Final Four. The first one,

1366
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Speaker 5: top ranked Ukon, absolutely dominating Illinois in a seventy seven

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Speaker 5: to fifty two win that included a thirty to nothing

1368
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Speaker 5: run by the Huskies. Alabama had to come from behind.

1369
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Speaker 5: They were down thirteen points at one point in the

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Speaker 5: first half, but they're able to take down the Clemson

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Speaker 5: Tigers eighty nine eighty two. And we got two more

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Speaker 5: Elite Eight games coming up Today two twenty Eastern time

1373
01:05:02,840 --> 01:05:05,360
Speaker 5: is the scheduled tip for top seed at Berdue and

1374
01:05:05,520 --> 01:05:07,960
Speaker 5: at two seeded Tennessee, and then at five o'clock the

1375
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Speaker 5: second game of the day, fourth seeded Duke and then

1376
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Speaker 5: NC State. They won five games in a row in

1377
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Speaker 5: the ACC Tournament just to make the Big Dance, and

1378
01:05:18,080 --> 01:05:21,160
Speaker 5: now they've won three games to get to the Elite Eight,

1379
01:05:21,320 --> 01:05:23,760
Speaker 5: and they faced the big biggest blue blood program of

1380
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Speaker 5: them all, arguably in the Duke Blue Devils. As for

1381
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Speaker 5: the women's side of things, we got some good matchups

1382
01:05:28,880 --> 01:05:32,600
Speaker 5: coming up because the Sweet sixteen gave us the matchups

1383
01:05:32,640 --> 01:05:35,360
Speaker 5: we were hoping for. Yukon beat Duke fifty three forty five,

1384
01:05:35,520 --> 01:05:37,840
Speaker 5: USC got by Baylor's seventy four to seventy, so it'll

1385
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Speaker 5: be the Trojans and the Huskies in one Elite eight matchup,

1386
01:05:42,040 --> 01:05:45,560
Speaker 5: and Iowa they destroy Colorado eighty nine to sixty eight.

1387
01:05:46,000 --> 01:05:49,920
Speaker 5: LSU beats UCLA seventy eight to sixty nine, so Monday's

1388
01:05:49,920 --> 01:05:52,480
Speaker 5: Elite eight matchup will be a rematch of last year's

1389
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Speaker 5: National Championship game Iowa and Caitlin Clark versus Angel Reese

1390
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Speaker 5: and LSU. In the NBA Hey, the Celtics improved to

1391
01:06:02,280 --> 01:06:04,480
Speaker 5: a league best fifty eight and sixteen. They win at

1392
01:06:04,520 --> 01:06:06,960
Speaker 5: New Orleans one oh four ninety two. The Magic dominate

1393
01:06:07,040 --> 01:06:09,760
Speaker 5: the Memphis Grizzlies one eighteen eighty eight. The Bucks over

1394
01:06:09,840 --> 01:06:14,000
Speaker 5: the Atlanta Hawks won twenty two one thirteen. In the NHL,

1395
01:06:14,160 --> 01:06:17,480
Speaker 5: Rangers eight five winners at Arizona, the Avalanche defeat the

1396
01:06:17,560 --> 01:06:21,080
Speaker 5: Nashville Predators seven to four. The Blackhawks winners at Philadelphia

1397
01:06:21,160 --> 01:06:24,280
Speaker 5: five to one. Vegas goes to overtime where they outlast

1398
01:06:24,360 --> 01:06:29,600
Speaker 5: Minnesota two to one. Major League Baseball, the Cardinals beat

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Speaker 5: the Dodgers six to five and ten innings as Joe

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01:06:32,560 --> 01:06:34,640
Speaker 5: Kelly allowed five runs of the seventh Dodger are able

1401
01:06:34,640 --> 01:06:35,760
Speaker 5: to come back and tie it in the ninth with

1402
01:06:35,840 --> 01:06:38,600
Speaker 5: a Mookie bet home run, Max Months the RBI single. However,

1403
01:06:39,240 --> 01:06:41,680
Speaker 5: after Saint Louis took the lead into the tenth inning,

1404
01:06:41,840 --> 01:06:45,320
Speaker 5: LA got the bases loaded but could not score. The

1405
01:06:45,400 --> 01:06:48,160
Speaker 5: Seattle Mariners come from behind to beat the Boston Red

1406
01:06:48,240 --> 01:06:49,920
Speaker 5: Sox four to three. They scored three times at the

1407
01:06:49,960 --> 01:06:53,360
Speaker 5: bottom of the tenth inning and Julio Rodriguez getting the

1408
01:06:53,400 --> 01:06:56,480
Speaker 5: game winning RBI knock the Yankees. They come from behind

1409
01:06:56,520 --> 01:06:59,320
Speaker 5: win against the Houston Astros five to three. The UFL

1410
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Speaker 5: Spring Football League started Saturday on Fox usfl XFL officially

1411
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Speaker 5: merging so it'll be a new United Football League. The

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01:07:06,600 --> 01:07:09,480
Speaker 5: first game saw Birmingham win at twenty seven to fourteen

1413
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Speaker 5: at Arlington. The second game Michigan over Saint Louis eighteen

1414
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Speaker 5: sixteen on a sixty four yard field goal.

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Speaker 2: Back to you guys, thanks kevisey in And now all right,

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Speaker 2: this man was heard, that's coming right up. He is

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Speaker 2: Bucky Brooks on Andy Firman. We are Fox Sports Sunday

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Speaker 2: and Fox Sports Ready, and we'relying from the tierrack dot

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Speaker 2: com studios. And of course we got bon and Barrow

1420
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Speaker 2: betting in less than ten minutes coming up. But I

1421
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Speaker 2: want to talk about a three time Pro Bowl selection.

1422
01:07:34,000 --> 01:07:36,280
Speaker 2: He lives in rock Hill, South Carolina. Just a few

1423
01:07:36,360 --> 01:07:38,919
Speaker 2: days ago, he signed a two year, twenty million dollar

1424
01:07:39,040 --> 01:07:42,560
Speaker 2: deal with his hometown, the Carolina Panthers. I'm talking about

1425
01:07:42,640 --> 01:07:45,680
Speaker 2: edge Russier Jadavian Clowney. Last year at the age of

1426
01:07:45,760 --> 01:07:49,760
Speaker 2: thirty one, nine point five sacks, which tied a career high.

1427
01:07:50,160 --> 01:07:52,680
Speaker 2: But this is his third team in three years. Played

1428
01:07:52,720 --> 01:07:56,880
Speaker 2: for the Browns, last year the Ravens, and why go,

1429
01:07:57,360 --> 01:08:00,680
Speaker 2: I guess hometown's a big deal. It's about I get it.

1430
01:08:01,080 --> 01:08:06,479
Speaker 2: He claims that this Charlotte team can be a playoff team.

1431
01:08:06,880 --> 01:08:09,520
Speaker 2: Can one guy really make a difference? Can the edge

1432
01:08:09,600 --> 01:08:13,040
Speaker 2: Russia Jadavian Clowney come in there and turn this team

1433
01:08:13,120 --> 01:08:15,800
Speaker 2: around and make this team a playoff team? I don't

1434
01:08:15,840 --> 01:08:17,040
Speaker 2: know what do you think.

1435
01:08:18,600 --> 01:08:22,720
Speaker 1: Who a player can turn around? But it takes a

1436
01:08:22,760 --> 01:08:24,519
Speaker 1: lot of pieces of the posal to make to make

1437
01:08:24,600 --> 01:08:28,240
Speaker 1: it happen. And I think you gotta have a look

1438
01:08:28,439 --> 01:08:30,240
Speaker 1: a little stroke of luck. You gotta have all the

1439
01:08:30,280 --> 01:08:32,360
Speaker 1: pieces to play come into place, and you got to

1440
01:08:32,400 --> 01:08:35,439
Speaker 1: be healthy down the stretch. And as much as we

1441
01:08:35,640 --> 01:08:37,719
Speaker 1: like to think that it is the natural next step

1442
01:08:38,120 --> 01:08:40,559
Speaker 1: to being your postseason team. In those things, there are

1443
01:08:40,560 --> 01:08:42,080
Speaker 1: a lot of little things to go with us. So

1444
01:08:42,120 --> 01:08:43,960
Speaker 1: I don't know, Andy, if like one player can do it,

1445
01:08:44,000 --> 01:08:46,320
Speaker 1: I think it certainly enhances it, it helps them. But

1446
01:08:46,520 --> 01:08:48,479
Speaker 1: man to put it all on one player, I don't

1447
01:08:48,479 --> 01:08:49,080
Speaker 1: know if we can do that.

1448
01:08:49,479 --> 01:08:51,360
Speaker 2: And he claims that they could turn it around. Look,

1449
01:08:51,800 --> 01:08:53,439
Speaker 2: the thing that I questioned a little bit is his

1450
01:08:53,520 --> 01:08:56,040
Speaker 2: third team in three years, and there was an article

1451
01:08:56,120 --> 01:08:59,840
Speaker 2: published in Cleveland dot Cleveland dot com. He said that

1452
01:09:00,000 --> 01:09:02,320
Speaker 2: team that Browns would favor in the start defensive end

1453
01:09:02,600 --> 01:09:05,040
Speaker 2: Miles Garrett over him. It's all about egos. I mean,

1454
01:09:05,080 --> 01:09:07,640
Speaker 2: come on, really, and he says, uh, let's say it.

1455
01:09:07,720 --> 01:09:09,719
Speaker 2: Let's be honest. This is what Clowney said in the article.

1456
01:09:09,920 --> 01:09:12,280
Speaker 2: It seems to me they didn't want me to outplay anybody.

1457
01:09:12,640 --> 01:09:16,000
Speaker 2: I mean, come on, I mean, I just it's so petty.

1458
01:09:16,360 --> 01:09:18,840
Speaker 2: I don't understand why a guy would do that. They

1459
01:09:18,920 --> 01:09:21,360
Speaker 2: know his value, they know his worth in Cleveland, I

1460
01:09:21,360 --> 01:09:23,920
Speaker 2: guess not. He didn't think they knew it, so he left.

1461
01:09:24,000 --> 01:09:26,639
Speaker 2: He packed up a left on three teams in three years.

1462
01:09:26,920 --> 01:09:30,000
Speaker 2: This team starts out on five six. There's gonna be

1463
01:09:30,040 --> 01:09:32,720
Speaker 2: some problems there in Carolina. He's gonna want out of there.

1464
01:09:34,240 --> 01:09:37,360
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, this is what it is. This

1465
01:09:37,520 --> 01:09:39,840
Speaker 1: is what he does. I mean, he's a mercenary. He

1466
01:09:39,880 --> 01:09:44,200
Speaker 1: gets to bad and he goes in place. But look,

1467
01:09:44,640 --> 01:09:46,599
Speaker 1: we'll see, we'll see how it works out. We'll see

1468
01:09:46,600 --> 01:09:49,479
Speaker 1: if he can kind of elevate that squad. But I

1469
01:09:49,520 --> 01:09:51,400
Speaker 1: don't know if I would be optimistic that he is

1470
01:09:51,520 --> 01:09:53,200
Speaker 1: going to be the missing piece that helps him get

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Speaker 1: over the top.

1472
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Speaker 2: Right, I'm with you, right, and I hope he does.

1473
01:09:56,439 --> 01:09:57,800
Speaker 2: You know, I think there's one heck of a player

1474
01:09:58,000 --> 01:10:01,040
Speaker 2: in the right situation, but you know, I don't know

1475
01:10:01,080 --> 01:10:03,200
Speaker 2: if that's the right situation right now. We talk about

1476
01:10:03,280 --> 01:10:07,160
Speaker 2: owners and sports, you know, really and truly, I think

1477
01:10:07,240 --> 01:10:09,439
Speaker 2: that as much as you and I and everybody else

1478
01:10:09,479 --> 01:10:11,800
Speaker 2: follow the world of sports, I don't think we could

1479
01:10:11,800 --> 01:10:14,760
Speaker 2: probably name five owners, and I don't think we have to. Yeah,

1480
01:10:14,760 --> 01:10:17,320
Speaker 2: and the ones you can name, they probably talk too much.

1481
01:10:17,600 --> 01:10:19,560
Speaker 2: Jerry Jones is on top of the list, right, and

1482
01:10:19,600 --> 01:10:22,719
Speaker 2: you talk about Carolina Panthers. What about their own David Tepper.

1483
01:10:22,800 --> 01:10:25,639
Speaker 2: That guy needs a shrink, really, So I don't think

1484
01:10:25,680 --> 01:10:29,080
Speaker 2: the owners and they're chatting means much and I think

1485
01:10:29,120 --> 01:10:30,960
Speaker 2: they should be seen or not heard. And I'm gonna

1486
01:10:30,960 --> 01:10:33,240
Speaker 2: add New York Jets owner Woody Johnson to his list

1487
01:10:33,600 --> 01:10:36,120
Speaker 2: because on the tweets on social media there was a

1488
01:10:36,240 --> 01:10:41,280
Speaker 2: story published and they said let it die, and they

1489
01:10:41,360 --> 01:10:44,000
Speaker 2: add wood to the fire. Woody, I mean, come on.

1490
01:10:44,160 --> 01:10:47,559
Speaker 2: The NFL Network reported that he and the Jets coach

1491
01:10:47,680 --> 01:10:51,439
Speaker 2: Robert Saylor engaged in a very heated conversation at the

1492
01:10:51,560 --> 01:10:55,000
Speaker 2: NFL's annual league meetings in Orlando, Florida, last week. All right,

1493
01:10:55,520 --> 01:10:58,240
Speaker 2: so he read that, he said it wasn't true. He

1494
01:10:58,439 --> 01:11:01,679
Speaker 2: goes on social media and he says it wasn't true.

1495
01:11:02,680 --> 01:11:05,439
Speaker 2: Why Why? Why did these pegs? Do they have that

1496
01:11:05,560 --> 01:11:08,840
Speaker 2: much of an ego? Let it go? Who cares? Have

1497
01:11:08,960 --> 01:11:11,840
Speaker 2: he and the coach had it to do? Who really cares?

1498
01:11:13,160 --> 01:11:16,320
Speaker 1: Nobody really does. So that's why it was really funny

1499
01:11:16,400 --> 01:11:18,559
Speaker 1: that he would be so upset about it, he would

1500
01:11:18,560 --> 01:11:21,960
Speaker 1: have so much issue with it. But where just smoked,

1501
01:11:22,000 --> 01:11:28,200
Speaker 1: there's fire, and where people are sensing, there's uncomfortable conversations

1502
01:11:28,360 --> 01:11:33,120
Speaker 1: and not this natural chemistry and connectivity that you normally

1503
01:11:33,280 --> 01:11:36,960
Speaker 1: have when you see multiple like two executives together. Yeah,

1504
01:11:37,160 --> 01:11:39,160
Speaker 1: you can tell that the donor is frustrated.

1505
01:11:39,840 --> 01:11:42,200
Speaker 2: There's no doubt about that. Now here's a situation. What hey,

1506
01:11:42,240 --> 01:11:44,320
Speaker 2: Johnson's seventy six years of age, he owns the team

1507
01:11:45,040 --> 01:11:48,200
Speaker 2: NFL Network. The girl who wrote this basically her name

1508
01:11:48,280 --> 01:11:51,280
Speaker 2: is Colleen Wolfe, and Colleen Wilf said she's on the

1509
01:11:51,280 --> 01:11:54,280
Speaker 2: Around the NFL. It was a podcast as well. She

1510
01:11:54,439 --> 01:11:57,960
Speaker 2: said she heard about this alleged confrontation with the coach

1511
01:11:58,000 --> 01:12:00,280
Speaker 2: and the owner from a quote very real life biable

1512
01:12:00,400 --> 01:12:01,280
Speaker 2: source dot it.

1513
01:12:01,880 --> 01:12:05,120
Speaker 1: Okay, so here's go. So Colleen wood who's an NFL

1514
01:12:05,200 --> 01:12:07,840
Speaker 1: Network colleague who I'm friendly with, like, she wouldn't put

1515
01:12:07,880 --> 01:12:10,080
Speaker 1: out their stuff that she doesn't know. And so if

1516
01:12:10,120 --> 01:12:13,479
Speaker 1: Colleen hears this from a trusted source, like, I'm sure

1517
01:12:13,880 --> 01:12:16,800
Speaker 1: it happened. What I don't understand about the conversation is like,

1518
01:12:16,840 --> 01:12:19,800
Speaker 1: why Woody Johnson is so upset that people know that

1519
01:12:19,920 --> 01:12:24,040
Speaker 1: maybe he and Robert Sala had looking interaction and argument

1520
01:12:24,280 --> 01:12:27,320
Speaker 1: that happens, that happens in business, that happens on teams,

1521
01:12:27,400 --> 01:12:30,799
Speaker 1: that happens in real life and relationships. So it shouldn't

1522
01:12:30,800 --> 01:12:33,040
Speaker 1: have been that big of a deal for Woody Johnson

1523
01:12:33,080 --> 01:12:35,720
Speaker 1: to make it a bigger deal to me, signals that

1524
01:12:35,800 --> 01:12:39,479
Speaker 1: there's something even deeper there. He certainly's not happy they

1525
01:12:39,520 --> 01:12:42,519
Speaker 1: haven't been to the playoffs in twelve seasons. Robert Sala

1526
01:12:43,479 --> 01:12:47,080
Speaker 1: and these guys are all then on the Aaron Rodgers experience,

1527
01:12:47,600 --> 01:12:49,800
Speaker 1: and so they have to figure out how to get

1528
01:12:49,840 --> 01:12:53,120
Speaker 1: it done. If there was a little testiness between the two,

1529
01:12:53,560 --> 01:12:57,240
Speaker 1: that's good. He should put Robert Sala in an uncomfortable

1530
01:12:57,320 --> 01:13:00,479
Speaker 1: situation where he knows that the urgent he needs to

1531
01:13:00,560 --> 01:13:03,080
Speaker 1: be there for him, for the team and everyone associated

1532
01:13:03,080 --> 01:13:05,760
Speaker 1: with the program. If they're going to continue on with

1533
01:13:05,880 --> 01:13:08,680
Speaker 1: the Jets, they need to win and they can't just

1534
01:13:09,160 --> 01:13:11,519
Speaker 1: talk about, oh, our defense is this, and oh if

1535
01:13:11,960 --> 01:13:14,639
Speaker 1: a Rods had been there. They have to win games.

1536
01:13:14,760 --> 01:13:17,479
Speaker 1: That's what you're tasked with as the head coach, no

1537
01:13:17,600 --> 01:13:19,880
Speaker 1: matter what the situation. Your job is to find a

1538
01:13:19,920 --> 01:13:23,920
Speaker 1: way to take this team as presently constructed and win games.

1539
01:13:24,240 --> 01:13:27,559
Speaker 1: And with teams like Detroit going on runs with Todd

1540
01:13:27,600 --> 01:13:29,280
Speaker 1: Bowles been ready to make a run with the Tampa

1541
01:13:29,280 --> 01:13:31,800
Speaker 1: Bay Buccaneers, the expectations there to New York just need

1542
01:13:31,880 --> 01:13:33,640
Speaker 1: to make a run this year, all right, guys, So

1543
01:13:34,000 --> 01:13:35,360
Speaker 1: what we're gonna do is we're gonna take a break

1544
01:13:35,400 --> 01:13:38,360
Speaker 1: right now, we'll come back finish up the hour. Got

1545
01:13:38,439 --> 01:13:39,400
Speaker 1: some more games to play.

1546
01:13:39,600 --> 01:13:44,120
Speaker 2: Say right here, it's that time bottom barrel betting. Right

1547
01:13:44,160 --> 01:13:46,920
Speaker 2: around the ben these Bucky Brooks. I'm Andy Furmer. We

1548
01:13:47,080 --> 01:13:50,560
Speaker 2: are Fox Sports Sunny of Fox Sports Radio on what

1549
01:13:50,680 --> 01:13:52,840
Speaker 2: Live from the Tirock dot com studio. Hey, we got

1550
01:13:52,960 --> 01:13:56,520
Speaker 2: a game to play. Let's play it. It's bottom bottom.

1551
01:13:59,080 --> 01:14:00,559
Speaker 1: Sleep people get my money, I'll put your.

1552
01:14:01,840 --> 01:14:02,400
Speaker 3: Yes it is.

1553
01:14:02,680 --> 01:14:04,680
Speaker 2: Let's play the game. Here's the eye man to help

1554
01:14:04,760 --> 01:14:05,120
Speaker 2: us out.

1555
01:14:05,920 --> 01:14:08,559
Speaker 6: All right, another dominant week for Bucky Brooks.

1556
01:14:08,640 --> 01:14:09,599
Speaker 2: What's happening?

1557
01:14:09,800 --> 01:14:12,719
Speaker 6: Why he won last week four to one yet again?

1558
01:14:12,920 --> 01:14:17,520
Speaker 6: So the overall score update is Bucky thirty Andy sixteen.

1559
01:14:18,120 --> 01:14:20,920
Speaker 2: You know a lot of people out there in radio land,

1560
01:14:20,960 --> 01:14:24,400
Speaker 2: I'm thinking maybe this thing is like skewed towards Bucky

1561
01:14:24,479 --> 01:14:27,200
Speaker 2: Brooks because he's the pro. Could there be some money

1562
01:14:27,320 --> 01:14:27,960
Speaker 2: under the table.

1563
01:14:28,360 --> 01:14:32,599
Speaker 6: That's what makes this game it's so funny, is there's

1564
01:14:32,720 --> 01:14:35,719
Speaker 6: no money under the table. It's just it's just Bucky

1565
01:14:35,880 --> 01:14:40,599
Speaker 6: is absolutely dominant in in bottom barrel betting. And all right, anyway,

1566
01:14:40,640 --> 01:14:41,240
Speaker 6: we gotta.

1567
01:14:41,240 --> 01:14:43,760
Speaker 2: Domina pickos everything I pick, he picks the opposite and

1568
01:14:43,840 --> 01:14:44,600
Speaker 2: he wins.

1569
01:14:45,640 --> 01:14:49,320
Speaker 1: That scenes there's a problem with you. Well, pick, I

1570
01:14:49,439 --> 01:14:50,320
Speaker 1: just say, okay.

1571
01:14:50,439 --> 01:14:53,720
Speaker 6: You alternate, you switch off, who goes first, and then

1572
01:14:53,760 --> 01:14:56,599
Speaker 6: you both picked the office up. Anyway. Anyway, we're starting

1573
01:14:56,640 --> 01:14:59,600
Speaker 6: off today with Taiwanes baseball, so we have.

1574
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:01,120
Speaker 1: When he's baseball. I love it.

1575
01:15:01,280 --> 01:15:02,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, see he knows the stuff.

1576
01:15:02,439 --> 01:15:02,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, there you go.

1577
01:15:02,960 --> 01:15:09,559
Speaker 6: He's all right. So we have the CTBC Brothers versus

1578
01:15:09,800 --> 01:15:13,200
Speaker 6: the way Schwan, dragons, and Bucky will start with you today.

1579
01:15:13,479 --> 01:15:16,400
Speaker 6: Who you got The brothers are minus one eighteen and

1580
01:15:16,600 --> 01:15:18,280
Speaker 6: the dragons are minus one oh two.

1581
01:15:19,160 --> 01:15:22,759
Speaker 1: Oh. So let's start off. Let's go with the dragons.

1582
01:15:23,040 --> 01:15:25,280
Speaker 1: I just think a fire breathing dragon to me strikes

1583
01:15:25,360 --> 01:15:26,920
Speaker 1: more feared than the other one. Let's go. Let's go

1584
01:15:26,960 --> 01:15:29,120
Speaker 1: with the dragon over the brothers. Andy, here you go.

1585
01:15:29,439 --> 01:15:31,960
Speaker 2: You're going with an animal over a human. So I'm

1586
01:15:32,000 --> 01:15:35,240
Speaker 2: going with the brothers. I'm going with the dragons are extinct.

1587
01:15:35,280 --> 01:15:37,800
Speaker 2: There's no more dragons, Brown really, so I go with

1588
01:15:37,880 --> 01:15:38,240
Speaker 2: the brothers.

1589
01:15:38,280 --> 01:15:39,080
Speaker 1: Are you sure about that?

1590
01:15:39,400 --> 01:15:39,599
Speaker 2: Yes?

1591
01:15:39,800 --> 01:15:40,040
Speaker 1: Sure?

1592
01:15:40,320 --> 01:15:41,799
Speaker 2: What was the last time you saw a dragon?

1593
01:15:42,760 --> 01:15:46,320
Speaker 1: Just because this scene doesn't mean it's that true. That's true.

1594
01:15:46,360 --> 01:15:46,720
Speaker 1: All right.

1595
01:15:47,080 --> 01:15:50,479
Speaker 6: Next, we got women's cricket. It's an international matchup. We

1596
01:15:50,560 --> 01:15:53,759
Speaker 6: have New Zealand at plus two thirty facing off against

1597
01:15:53,840 --> 01:15:56,800
Speaker 6: England at minus three forty Andy, who you got?

1598
01:15:56,920 --> 01:15:59,200
Speaker 2: I gotta go with England. I mean my grandfather's from England.

1599
01:15:59,200 --> 01:16:01,479
Speaker 2: I gotta go to England. You kidding me? I drink tea.

1600
01:16:02,080 --> 01:16:02,839
Speaker 2: I'm an Englishman.

1601
01:16:02,920 --> 01:16:07,599
Speaker 1: Really, you have to look, That's that's all it takes. Fright, Tree,

1602
01:16:08,680 --> 01:16:10,360
Speaker 1: I drink tea English.

1603
01:16:10,080 --> 01:16:12,559
Speaker 2: At four o'clock Easter time. That's I drink tea at

1604
01:16:12,560 --> 01:16:14,120
Speaker 2: four in the afternoon. I think that's that's when they

1605
01:16:14,200 --> 01:16:14,479
Speaker 2: drink it.

1606
01:16:14,560 --> 01:16:17,519
Speaker 1: There, you drink tea and you have finger sandwiches, and

1607
01:16:17,640 --> 01:16:22,759
Speaker 1: that qualifies trumpets crumpets. All right, give me the opposite.

1608
01:16:23,120 --> 01:16:26,760
Speaker 6: I'll take that opposite, alright, Bucky taking English muffins too.

1609
01:16:27,640 --> 01:16:30,760
Speaker 6: There you go, all right, lots of good research going.

1610
01:16:31,000 --> 01:16:33,000
Speaker 2: You finished this week, buddy, you finished?

1611
01:16:34,080 --> 01:16:38,439
Speaker 6: Okay, Curling, we have the Men's World Championship of Curling,

1612
01:16:38,840 --> 01:16:43,680
Speaker 6: so Canada Canada at minus one oh five versus Scotland

1613
01:16:43,760 --> 01:16:46,120
Speaker 6: at minus one twenty five. Bucky, who you got?

1614
01:16:47,360 --> 01:16:49,760
Speaker 1: Oh curling? Because this has a little icy we got

1615
01:16:49,800 --> 01:16:51,640
Speaker 1: the little sweepers and all that other stuff. Let's go

1616
01:16:51,720 --> 01:16:53,600
Speaker 1: with Canada. They know how to do it better than

1617
01:16:53,640 --> 01:16:54,920
Speaker 1: anybody else. You know what.

1618
01:16:55,479 --> 01:16:58,040
Speaker 2: This is the first, This is a first. I am

1619
01:16:58,120 --> 01:16:59,920
Speaker 2: going with Canada. And I'll tell you why.

1620
01:17:00,120 --> 01:17:00,560
Speaker 3: I have to.

1621
01:17:00,880 --> 01:17:04,599
Speaker 2: My wife's Canadian. My wife is Canadian, so if I don't,

1622
01:17:04,760 --> 01:17:07,280
Speaker 2: she'll disown me and I'll take our green card away.

1623
01:17:07,520 --> 01:17:08,639
Speaker 2: So I gotta go with Canada.

1624
01:17:08,760 --> 01:17:09,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, you got it.

1625
01:17:09,560 --> 01:17:11,639
Speaker 6: You're in a bind there, Andy Pie.

1626
01:17:12,160 --> 01:17:13,960
Speaker 2: You know I gotta do it all right.

1627
01:17:14,400 --> 01:17:16,880
Speaker 6: Well, if it's Scotland, that's going to be a missed opportunity.

1628
01:17:16,920 --> 01:17:18,479
Speaker 6: But I do understand the reasoning there.

1629
01:17:19,040 --> 01:17:19,719
Speaker 2: Next t piece.

1630
01:17:20,120 --> 01:17:23,760
Speaker 6: Next we have women's surfing. This is the the Rip

1631
01:17:23,880 --> 01:17:27,360
Speaker 6: Curl pro Bell Beach Semifinals, and this is a single

1632
01:17:27,439 --> 01:17:29,360
Speaker 6: heat because it's a one versus one.

1633
01:17:30,080 --> 01:17:32,720
Speaker 2: Uh so we like you knew like you knew it right,

1634
01:17:32,800 --> 01:17:33,439
Speaker 2: Like you've seen this.

1635
01:17:33,640 --> 01:17:36,519
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, yeah, I'm a close follower of the Rip

1636
01:17:36,640 --> 01:17:41,120
Speaker 6: Curl pro Bell Beach Semifinals. So Joanne de Fay at

1637
01:17:41,160 --> 01:17:45,840
Speaker 6: minus one fifteen versus Brisa Hennessy at minus one fifteen, Andy,

1638
01:17:45,880 --> 01:17:46,360
Speaker 6: who you got?

1639
01:17:48,360 --> 01:17:51,439
Speaker 2: Well, I gotta be honest with you, like I follow

1640
01:17:51,520 --> 01:17:54,760
Speaker 2: this sport pretty heavily and I'm Bresa. Brisa Hennessy's pretty

1641
01:17:54,800 --> 01:17:55,880
Speaker 2: good so I'm going with Brisa.

1642
01:17:57,000 --> 01:18:00,080
Speaker 1: Oh man, gosh man, my best price to n So

1643
01:18:00,080 --> 01:18:03,040
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with Joanna. Really, he's the date of

1644
01:18:03,120 --> 01:18:04,519
Speaker 1: Joanna when we were in college. So I'm gonna go

1645
01:18:04,600 --> 01:18:04,760
Speaker 1: with that.

1646
01:18:05,720 --> 01:18:09,040
Speaker 6: Could be the same one, all right, and uh our

1647
01:18:09,160 --> 01:18:13,000
Speaker 6: last last pick of the day. We have Ausie Rules football.

1648
01:18:13,240 --> 01:18:17,240
Speaker 6: So it's the Melbourne Demons versus the Adelaide Crows. Bucky

1649
01:18:17,280 --> 01:18:17,880
Speaker 6: will start with you.

1650
01:18:18,840 --> 01:18:20,880
Speaker 2: Wait, Adelaide, Adelaide.

1651
01:18:20,520 --> 01:18:23,160
Speaker 6: Adelaide Crows versus the Melbourne Demons.

1652
01:18:23,800 --> 01:18:24,000
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1653
01:18:24,080 --> 01:18:25,719
Speaker 1: Well I think I think I'm gonna go with the demons.

1654
01:18:26,200 --> 01:18:28,000
Speaker 1: Demons Melbourne. I'm just going to demons.

1655
01:18:28,400 --> 01:18:30,639
Speaker 2: I have a lot of demons. My life is full

1656
01:18:30,680 --> 01:18:34,679
Speaker 2: of demons. However, I'm going with the Crows, Adelaide Crows.

1657
01:18:34,960 --> 01:18:36,840
Speaker 2: That's what I'm doing right there, And I tell you

1658
01:18:37,000 --> 01:18:40,120
Speaker 2: right now, put it down, Mark it down. I'm gonna win.

1659
01:18:40,320 --> 01:18:43,160
Speaker 2: And could you tell me maybe to rehash when some

1660
01:18:43,240 --> 01:18:45,200
Speaker 2: of these events are being taken place so I could

1661
01:18:45,280 --> 01:18:48,679
Speaker 2: follow to see that there's no cheating involved, everything's above board.

1662
01:18:48,840 --> 01:18:50,840
Speaker 2: I want to follow the events. What are they?

1663
01:18:51,080 --> 01:18:53,680
Speaker 6: Most of them happened the next day, because that's how

1664
01:18:53,760 --> 01:18:56,519
Speaker 6: that's when the when I'm looking for the lines. They

1665
01:18:56,840 --> 01:18:59,000
Speaker 6: usually just have the next day's events, or you know,

1666
01:18:59,120 --> 01:19:01,200
Speaker 6: sometimes it'll be the coming week.

1667
01:19:01,320 --> 01:19:04,360
Speaker 2: But well, I'm gonna be following these a little more close.

1668
01:19:04,840 --> 01:19:07,960
Speaker 6: I'll shoot you guys an email with the actual because

1669
01:19:08,040 --> 01:19:08,360
Speaker 6: you know what.

1670
01:19:08,720 --> 01:19:11,040
Speaker 2: It doesn't make any sense that I could be that

1671
01:19:11,400 --> 01:19:15,080
Speaker 2: far behind, trailing so much in this stupid game. All right,

1672
01:19:15,479 --> 01:19:16,439
Speaker 2: it doesn't make any sense.

1673
01:19:16,560 --> 01:19:18,800
Speaker 6: You think you'd think it wouldn't make much sense, but.

1674
01:19:19,000 --> 01:19:21,680
Speaker 2: Right, it doesn't make any sense. So I'm thinking, like

1675
01:19:21,720 --> 01:19:25,200
Speaker 2: there's a little hanky panky going on, right, am I?

1676
01:19:25,280 --> 01:19:25,439
Speaker 1: Right?

1677
01:19:25,479 --> 01:19:27,840
Speaker 2: A wrong? You're wrong?

1678
01:19:28,040 --> 01:19:29,120
Speaker 1: What are we talking about?

1679
01:19:29,439 --> 01:19:31,759
Speaker 2: I may not have suited up in the National Football

1680
01:19:31,800 --> 01:19:34,799
Speaker 2: League like Bucket Brooks, but I have some competitive juices

1681
01:19:35,000 --> 01:19:37,679
Speaker 2: inside me like anybody else, and I don't like to lose.

1682
01:19:37,960 --> 01:19:38,560
Speaker 2: I just don't like.

1683
01:19:39,080 --> 01:19:39,880
Speaker 6: It's far from over.

1684
01:19:40,600 --> 01:19:43,920
Speaker 2: Really, it's far from over. Okay, we want to put

1685
01:19:43,920 --> 01:19:45,880
Speaker 2: a little cash on this to make a little more interesting.

1686
01:19:45,920 --> 01:19:48,400
Speaker 2: Maybe next week we'll put a little betting money and

1687
01:19:48,439 --> 01:19:50,640
Speaker 2: maybe the money you'll go to charity. That's what we'll do.

1688
01:19:50,760 --> 01:19:52,839
Speaker 2: Like that, what do you think a little money for charity?

1689
01:19:52,920 --> 01:19:55,920
Speaker 2: Something like that? Our favorite charities, right, we could do

1690
01:19:56,040 --> 01:19:58,160
Speaker 2: something like that because now I want to gear this

1691
01:19:58,320 --> 01:20:00,400
Speaker 2: up a little bit. I'm a little sick. Can tire

1692
01:20:00,479 --> 01:20:03,519
Speaker 2: again slapped around by Bucky Brooks? That's all I could say.

1693
01:20:03,800 --> 01:20:08,240
Speaker 2: All Right, well that's all. I love him to death,

1694
01:20:08,560 --> 01:20:10,320
Speaker 2: but I don't like to lose to him. That's all

1695
01:20:10,320 --> 01:20:11,240
Speaker 2: I'm telling you right now.

1696
01:20:11,400 --> 01:20:13,320
Speaker 6: Good opportunity to turn around this week.

1697
01:20:13,400 --> 01:20:15,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, well I will. Hey, you know sports has some

1698
01:20:15,560 --> 01:20:18,840
Speaker 2: ugly moments. We're gonna tell you about one on Fox

1699
01:20:18,880 --> 01:20:21,080
Speaker 2: Sports Sunday coming up right here next.

1700
01:20:22,640 --> 01:20:25,360
Speaker 1: Don't listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

1701
01:20:25,880 --> 01:20:28,640
Speaker 2: Okay, there's only one word for this. It's you g

1702
01:20:28,960 --> 01:20:32,240
Speaker 2: l y ugly, and that's coming right out. Good morning, everybody.

1703
01:20:32,320 --> 01:20:35,200
Speaker 2: This is Fox Sports Sunday and Fox Sports Radio. He

1704
01:20:35,400 --> 01:20:39,000
Speaker 2: is Bucky Brooks on Andy Furman, and we are broadcasting

1705
01:20:39,080 --> 01:20:41,760
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1706
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Speaker 1: Here we go.

1712
01:20:57,479 --> 01:21:00,120
Speaker 2: We've got two games today. We got Purdue ten to

1713
01:21:00,200 --> 01:21:03,439
Speaker 2: see Duke NC State, I ask you. We talked about

1714
01:21:03,960 --> 01:21:07,599
Speaker 2: Kevin mentioned this top of the hour doing the sports updates.

1715
01:21:07,840 --> 01:21:12,639
Speaker 2: This Cinderella's all right? To me? Maybe I'm off base.

1716
01:21:12,840 --> 01:21:14,479
Speaker 2: I think that you have to say, obviously in NC

1717
01:21:14,640 --> 01:21:17,840
Speaker 2: State's Cinderella. Alabama's got to be a Cinderella. They've never

1718
01:21:17,920 --> 01:21:20,680
Speaker 2: been in the Final four. But what constitutes of cinderella.

1719
01:21:20,920 --> 01:21:24,080
Speaker 2: You could be a big time conference team team member

1720
01:21:24,479 --> 01:21:27,320
Speaker 2: and still be a Cinderella because you're not expected or

1721
01:21:27,400 --> 01:21:30,000
Speaker 2: you haven't been there before. So I got to believe

1722
01:21:30,080 --> 01:21:33,880
Speaker 2: that NC State and Alabama could be considered Cinderella teams

1723
01:21:33,920 --> 01:21:34,839
Speaker 2: this year. Am I correct?

1724
01:21:35,720 --> 01:21:39,519
Speaker 1: I think they can be considered cinderella's because they're lower seeds,

1725
01:21:39,600 --> 01:21:43,080
Speaker 1: particularly in C State. No one expects an eleven seed

1726
01:21:43,320 --> 01:21:47,400
Speaker 1: to be vying for a Final four. Birth with Alabama,

1727
01:21:47,479 --> 01:21:50,559
Speaker 1: I think you can still make that conversation about whoever

1728
01:21:50,880 --> 01:21:53,240
Speaker 1: is going to make it to the Final four. Because

1729
01:21:53,280 --> 01:21:55,120
Speaker 1: they were one of the lower seeds in the region.

1730
01:21:55,400 --> 01:21:58,360
Speaker 1: You can still in some ways say that they are Cinderella.

1731
01:21:58,720 --> 01:22:02,519
Speaker 1: But to me, the truth would be NC State based

1732
01:22:02,600 --> 01:22:05,599
Speaker 1: on them having to play their way into the tournament

1733
01:22:05,680 --> 01:22:08,559
Speaker 1: like they did by winning the ACC Tournament, and then

1734
01:22:08,640 --> 01:22:11,880
Speaker 1: the way that they've started as an eleven seed and

1735
01:22:12,320 --> 01:22:15,320
Speaker 1: kind of made their way through the tournament, feel to

1736
01:22:15,400 --> 01:22:18,080
Speaker 1: put themselves in a position to if they win their

1737
01:22:18,160 --> 01:22:19,080
Speaker 1: in the final four.

1738
01:22:19,640 --> 01:22:21,240
Speaker 2: And I'll tell you right now, I'm looking at the

1739
01:22:21,439 --> 01:22:23,920
Speaker 2: entire bracket as we speak, and I'm saying, we are

1740
01:22:23,960 --> 01:22:27,439
Speaker 2: seeing an erosion of this soul called Cinderellas, like we're

1741
01:22:27,439 --> 01:22:30,880
Speaker 2: seeing an erosion of the Saint Peter's, of the Oaklands,

1742
01:22:31,120 --> 01:22:34,640
Speaker 2: of the Leola Chicago's. I'm looking at basic Cinderella's that

1743
01:22:34,760 --> 01:22:37,280
Speaker 2: made it to the second round this year, Oakland, James

1744
01:22:37,360 --> 01:22:40,600
Speaker 2: Madison and basically that's it. That's it. Why because of

1745
01:22:40,760 --> 01:22:43,840
Speaker 2: nil And what do I mean by that? Nil? Money

1746
01:22:44,000 --> 01:22:48,519
Speaker 2: is luring players even from lower division schools with big

1747
01:22:48,600 --> 01:22:51,360
Speaker 2: time money who can play or coaches think they can

1748
01:22:51,479 --> 01:22:54,439
Speaker 2: play at a higher level. You're paying them big money.

1749
01:22:54,680 --> 01:22:57,640
Speaker 2: These players are going to leave. The portal situation is

1750
01:22:57,720 --> 01:23:00,960
Speaker 2: making or letting kids leave for one school to another.

1751
01:23:01,080 --> 01:23:06,040
Speaker 2: So you're reading out the quote weaker, smaller Cinderella schools

1752
01:23:06,240 --> 01:23:08,320
Speaker 2: and it's going to be a tournament right now just

1753
01:23:08,439 --> 01:23:10,360
Speaker 2: for the big boys. And I don't like it. I

1754
01:23:10,360 --> 01:23:12,600
Speaker 2: don't think it's good. I think the thrill and the

1755
01:23:12,720 --> 01:23:16,519
Speaker 2: excitement and the fun of this tournament was seeing schools

1756
01:23:16,720 --> 01:23:20,240
Speaker 2: you maybe have never heard of before coming and playing

1757
01:23:20,320 --> 01:23:23,400
Speaker 2: and going deep into the tournament. Even last year Florida

1758
01:23:23,439 --> 01:23:26,559
Speaker 2: Atlantic they went to the final four. What happened this year?

1759
01:23:26,640 --> 01:23:28,920
Speaker 2: The coach is gone, is going to Michigan. So I

1760
01:23:29,040 --> 01:23:31,360
Speaker 2: think that's what we're seeing right now. And even if

1761
01:23:31,400 --> 01:23:34,439
Speaker 2: they expanded to ninety eight teams, as there's some suggestion

1762
01:23:34,840 --> 01:23:37,120
Speaker 2: that there may happen, it's not going to help the

1763
01:23:37,200 --> 01:23:39,240
Speaker 2: smaller schools, but it was they going to dominate the

1764
01:23:39,280 --> 01:23:42,879
Speaker 2: big conferences with guarantee berths to get them in the tournament.

1765
01:23:44,000 --> 01:23:46,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I see it a little differently when

1766
01:23:46,240 --> 01:23:48,000
Speaker 1: it comes to the Cinerella. I think we actually have

1767
01:23:48,040 --> 01:23:50,840
Speaker 1: seen more upsets. I think the parody is the best

1768
01:23:50,880 --> 01:23:52,840
Speaker 1: that we've seen. We've seen teams go down. We saw

1769
01:23:52,960 --> 01:23:55,680
Speaker 1: Ducuine win a first round game. We saw some of

1770
01:23:55,720 --> 01:23:59,000
Speaker 1: the lower seeds win. Now they're not making these deep,

1771
01:23:59,280 --> 01:24:03,280
Speaker 1: historic runs, but I think that has less to do

1772
01:24:03,439 --> 01:24:07,559
Speaker 1: with like the haves gobbling up all the have nice talent.

1773
01:24:08,280 --> 01:24:11,439
Speaker 1: I think it's just the way that it plays out.

1774
01:24:11,600 --> 01:24:15,799
Speaker 1: I think parody is more apparent in the college basketball

1775
01:24:15,880 --> 01:24:18,519
Speaker 1: landscape than it's ever been in Before. It was always

1776
01:24:18,560 --> 01:24:21,160
Speaker 1: the blue bloods in the final four. It was always

1777
01:24:21,520 --> 01:24:23,280
Speaker 1: one of the top teams, one of the teams from

1778
01:24:23,320 --> 01:24:28,120
Speaker 1: the Power five or Power six conferences playing Now. I mean,

1779
01:24:28,160 --> 01:24:30,880
Speaker 1: we've seen it. Last year you talked about FAU being

1780
01:24:30,920 --> 01:24:32,800
Speaker 1: able to make it. We've seen some of these other

1781
01:24:32,920 --> 01:24:35,519
Speaker 1: smaller teams make deep runs where they're on the verge

1782
01:24:35,560 --> 01:24:38,400
Speaker 1: of making the final four. I just believe the tournament

1783
01:24:38,520 --> 01:24:41,479
Speaker 1: is changing, and the excitement of the tournament stems from

1784
01:24:42,000 --> 01:24:43,920
Speaker 1: you have to tune in because you just never know

1785
01:24:44,080 --> 01:24:44,880
Speaker 1: what you're going to see.

1786
01:24:45,920 --> 01:24:49,439
Speaker 2: Well, look, you see the Duke playing NC State today.

1787
01:24:49,560 --> 01:24:52,280
Speaker 2: Those teams kind of like a repeat they played during

1788
01:24:52,280 --> 01:24:54,240
Speaker 2: the regular season. You got two teams from the ACC,

1789
01:24:54,640 --> 01:24:57,960
Speaker 2: two teams from the SEC coming in there, purduees in there,

1790
01:24:58,479 --> 01:25:01,200
Speaker 2: I think purduing Connecticut. They may very well be in

1791
01:25:01,240 --> 01:25:04,280
Speaker 2: the finals right now. Connecticut head and shoulders, I believe,

1792
01:25:04,960 --> 01:25:07,960
Speaker 2: over everybody else in this tournament, they're not only winning,

1793
01:25:08,080 --> 01:25:11,400
Speaker 2: they they destroying their opponents. Yesterday when they won, well

1794
01:25:11,439 --> 01:25:13,759
Speaker 2: two days ago when they won, they had a thirty

1795
01:25:13,800 --> 01:25:16,800
Speaker 2: to nothing run. I mean that's unheard of. I mean,

1796
01:25:17,000 --> 01:25:20,720
Speaker 2: this team is just deep, good and I guess it's

1797
01:25:20,800 --> 01:25:23,400
Speaker 2: the coaching, is the size of their bench, whatever it

1798
01:25:23,479 --> 01:25:25,760
Speaker 2: may be. But Hurley has developed some sort of a

1799
01:25:26,120 --> 01:25:27,960
Speaker 2: mini dynasty over there Connecticut.

1800
01:25:28,880 --> 01:25:31,040
Speaker 1: He certainly has done a really good job. He's done

1801
01:25:31,080 --> 01:25:34,519
Speaker 1: a really good job of being able to navigate difficult

1802
01:25:34,600 --> 01:25:37,880
Speaker 1: circumstances in terms of winning Aster championship, losing a handful

1803
01:25:37,880 --> 01:25:41,679
Speaker 1: of guys to the pros, and knowing that the second

1804
01:25:41,760 --> 01:25:44,320
Speaker 1: year is always harder than the first year, but embracing

1805
01:25:44,479 --> 01:25:48,160
Speaker 1: the target and attacking it and attacking it with this team.

1806
01:25:48,600 --> 01:25:51,200
Speaker 1: He is a grizzled, hard nosed coach, but he always

1807
01:25:51,280 --> 01:25:53,240
Speaker 1: talks about I can coach my guy's hard because they

1808
01:25:53,280 --> 01:25:55,599
Speaker 1: know I love them and I'm gonna be there for them.

1809
01:25:56,640 --> 01:25:59,840
Speaker 1: He look he deserves high marks for creating or re

1810
01:26:00,120 --> 01:26:03,880
Speaker 1: creating a championship culture at Yukon, but we also have

1811
01:26:03,960 --> 01:26:08,040
Speaker 1: to understand this. Yukon in the last quarter century has

1812
01:26:08,080 --> 01:26:10,600
Speaker 1: been regarded as one of the power one of the

1813
01:26:10,640 --> 01:26:12,920
Speaker 1: power teams. They're blue blood. They won a bunch of

1814
01:26:13,040 --> 01:26:14,960
Speaker 1: national titles. They won with Jim Carhun, they won with

1815
01:26:15,040 --> 01:26:17,280
Speaker 1: Kevin Island, they won with Danny Hill. This is a

1816
01:26:17,439 --> 01:26:20,120
Speaker 1: program that is accustomed to winning and when you take

1817
01:26:20,200 --> 01:26:22,799
Speaker 1: over a situation like that, not saying that it's easier,

1818
01:26:23,320 --> 01:26:26,439
Speaker 1: but they have seen success, which makes it easier to

1819
01:26:26,560 --> 01:26:29,439
Speaker 1: tell the team, Hey, if we do these things, we

1820
01:26:29,520 --> 01:26:33,320
Speaker 1: will win. This is what this university, this basketball program

1821
01:26:33,400 --> 01:26:35,240
Speaker 1: has been founded on. We're going to come to continue

1822
01:26:35,240 --> 01:26:37,240
Speaker 1: to step on the gant, the shows the giants.

1823
01:26:38,560 --> 01:26:40,240
Speaker 2: I'm going to run this by because you're a tar

1824
01:26:40,360 --> 01:26:42,880
Speaker 2: hill for North Carolina, and I got to consider North

1825
01:26:42,920 --> 01:26:45,599
Speaker 2: Carolina blue blood. No matter what happened this year, there's

1826
01:26:45,600 --> 01:26:47,640
Speaker 2: still a blue blood. Many people thought they'd make it

1827
01:26:47,720 --> 01:26:50,560
Speaker 2: to the Final four. How does a school like Connecticut

1828
01:26:51,560 --> 01:26:55,799
Speaker 2: manage to have more success than in North Carolina or Kentucky.

1829
01:26:55,960 --> 01:26:59,720
Speaker 2: I don't understand that whatsoever. What does Connecticut have that

1830
01:27:00,280 --> 01:27:03,240
Speaker 2: that North Carolina Kentucky does not have. They don't have

1831
01:27:03,320 --> 01:27:06,000
Speaker 2: the tradition of North Carolina Kentucky. They don't have the

1832
01:27:06,080 --> 01:27:09,040
Speaker 2: facilities I don't believe as North Carolina or Kentucky. What

1833
01:27:09,360 --> 01:27:12,519
Speaker 2: could they do to attract a kid unless a kid

1834
01:27:12,600 --> 01:27:15,160
Speaker 2: that on their roster is from the East and doesn't

1835
01:27:15,200 --> 01:27:17,519
Speaker 2: one to move to the Midwest of the South. That's

1836
01:27:17,520 --> 01:27:19,880
Speaker 2: the only thing I can think of. Well, maybe it's money.

1837
01:27:20,000 --> 01:27:22,599
Speaker 2: I don't know. What they have that kind of lures

1838
01:27:22,680 --> 01:27:25,880
Speaker 2: people to Connecticut to make that school over any other

1839
01:27:25,920 --> 01:27:29,840
Speaker 2: school a basketball power, a basketball juggernaut. I never would

1840
01:27:29,880 --> 01:27:34,680
Speaker 2: have dreamt in my entire dreams of basketball that Connecticut

1841
01:27:34,720 --> 01:27:36,920
Speaker 2: will be considered a basketball power.

1842
01:27:38,160 --> 01:27:40,120
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, I think a couple of Thames. I

1843
01:27:40,160 --> 01:27:43,960
Speaker 1: wouldn't say that they are above North Carolina and Duke.

1844
01:27:44,280 --> 01:27:47,000
Speaker 1: I mean North Carolina, Duke, Kentucky and those schools. I

1845
01:27:47,080 --> 01:27:50,080
Speaker 1: think they're in the conversation. I think those teams have

1846
01:27:50,160 --> 01:27:53,840
Speaker 1: to be considered like the elite of the at least

1847
01:27:53,880 --> 01:27:56,920
Speaker 1: because they're always in the conversation to win national titles.

1848
01:27:57,479 --> 01:27:59,920
Speaker 1: I think when we judge everything off of the coma

1849
01:28:00,320 --> 01:28:03,120
Speaker 1: of a tournament, it makes it hard to really say

1850
01:28:03,200 --> 01:28:05,439
Speaker 1: that who's on part because you're really talking about winning

1851
01:28:05,479 --> 01:28:08,360
Speaker 1: a six game run to be the national champion. What

1852
01:28:08,560 --> 01:28:11,679
Speaker 1: Yukon has done, though, is they were a dominant team

1853
01:28:11,760 --> 01:28:14,280
Speaker 1: in the Biggies. They've been a dominant team there. Their

1854
01:28:14,320 --> 01:28:17,040
Speaker 1: recruiting base, even though we talked about Connecticut, well, they

1855
01:28:17,080 --> 01:28:20,160
Speaker 1: can go to the Tri state area, they can go

1856
01:28:20,760 --> 01:28:23,920
Speaker 1: New York, New Jersey, they can dip down into the

1857
01:28:24,040 --> 01:28:27,400
Speaker 1: DMV and get players. So their recruiting basis for there

1858
01:28:27,439 --> 01:28:30,280
Speaker 1: are a ton of players in New York, in New

1859
01:28:30,400 --> 01:28:34,160
Speaker 1: York City that they can lure from. Look, man, my

1860
01:28:34,280 --> 01:28:37,799
Speaker 1: daughter recently took a visit to Yukon just as a student,

1861
01:28:37,840 --> 01:28:39,720
Speaker 1: and she talked about how she fell in love with it.

1862
01:28:39,840 --> 01:28:44,200
Speaker 1: So there is something attractive about Yukon that is luring

1863
01:28:44,320 --> 01:28:48,120
Speaker 1: people into it. But when you have success like they've

1864
01:28:48,160 --> 01:28:51,960
Speaker 1: had in the past, it's easy to sell. When they've

1865
01:28:52,000 --> 01:28:54,000
Speaker 1: had pros come out of the program, and I think

1866
01:28:54,040 --> 01:28:55,280
Speaker 1: they have a lot of good things, a lot of

1867
01:28:55,320 --> 01:28:57,479
Speaker 1: attractive qualities to sell as a basketball program.

1868
01:28:57,800 --> 01:29:00,360
Speaker 2: And you're right, success does bring success to be part

1869
01:29:00,400 --> 01:29:02,880
Speaker 2: of a winning team. I mean I remember when Jerry

1870
01:29:02,920 --> 01:29:05,439
Speaker 2: Fous coach Molar High School in Cincinnati. I mean that

1871
01:29:05,520 --> 01:29:08,080
Speaker 2: team was dominant, and you know what, I'd go watch

1872
01:29:08,160 --> 01:29:11,040
Speaker 2: those games on Friday night and he'd have like fifty

1873
01:29:11,120 --> 01:29:13,760
Speaker 2: sixty seventy kids on the sidelines. Why kids want to

1874
01:29:13,800 --> 01:29:16,200
Speaker 2: be part of a winning program? You know, look at

1875
01:29:16,280 --> 01:29:19,200
Speaker 2: high school teams that have losing seasons. They can't even

1876
01:29:19,280 --> 01:29:21,280
Speaker 2: feel twenty two to twenty five players on the team.

1877
01:29:21,479 --> 01:29:23,080
Speaker 2: Nobody wants to be part of a loser. And I

1878
01:29:23,200 --> 01:29:25,280
Speaker 2: get it because at that age You're going to school

1879
01:29:25,280 --> 01:29:27,599
Speaker 2: on a Monday morning and you'll see so many students

1880
01:29:27,680 --> 01:29:30,080
Speaker 2: in the classes and say, hey, you lost the ging

1881
01:29:30,120 --> 01:29:32,519
Speaker 2: on Friday, didn't you. Nobody wants that, especially at that

1882
01:29:32,680 --> 01:29:34,640
Speaker 2: age in high school. You want to be part of

1883
01:29:34,720 --> 01:29:36,600
Speaker 2: a winning team, even if you don't play. You just

1884
01:29:36,680 --> 01:29:38,240
Speaker 2: want to wear the uniform and get the letter at

1885
01:29:38,240 --> 01:29:38,840
Speaker 2: the end of the year.

1886
01:29:39,880 --> 01:29:41,800
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean that's cool to a point, but you

1887
01:29:41,880 --> 01:29:45,560
Speaker 1: can't have what some are termed burger eaters, guys that

1888
01:29:45,720 --> 01:29:47,759
Speaker 1: just want to come and get up all the scraps

1889
01:29:47,800 --> 01:29:49,960
Speaker 1: and enjoy the spores of the hard work of others.

1890
01:29:50,360 --> 01:29:53,080
Speaker 1: They have to be contributing to the members of the squad,

1891
01:29:53,600 --> 01:29:57,240
Speaker 1: you know, and when it comes to like that part

1892
01:29:57,320 --> 01:29:59,720
Speaker 1: of it, like we'll go back to Yukon, look at

1893
01:29:59,800 --> 01:30:02,479
Speaker 1: the a lot of hard work for them to make

1894
01:30:02,560 --> 01:30:05,120
Speaker 1: their way to the top. You know, Before you can

1895
01:30:05,160 --> 01:30:07,680
Speaker 1: talk about Ray Allen and Kron Butler and some of

1896
01:30:07,720 --> 01:30:09,880
Speaker 1: those guys that have put on that jersey, you got

1897
01:30:09,960 --> 01:30:11,960
Speaker 1: to talk about Tate George, who was a part of

1898
01:30:12,000 --> 01:30:14,240
Speaker 1: them when they were coming up. I mean, they have

1899
01:30:14,360 --> 01:30:17,000
Speaker 1: a bit of a history. And look, there's a recency

1900
01:30:17,080 --> 01:30:19,479
Speaker 1: bias when it comes with today's generation in terms of

1901
01:30:19,520 --> 01:30:22,120
Speaker 1: what programs are great. While we could talk about the

1902
01:30:22,320 --> 01:30:24,880
Speaker 1: lore and the tradition of Kentucky and Carolina going all

1903
01:30:24,880 --> 01:30:29,160
Speaker 1: the way back to the fifties and sixties, young people

1904
01:30:29,200 --> 01:30:32,120
Speaker 1: today don't care about that. They can hit the head.

1905
01:30:32,680 --> 01:30:34,479
Speaker 1: They don't care about that. They care about what has

1906
01:30:34,560 --> 01:30:38,040
Speaker 1: happened since twenty fifteen, what happened since twenty ten, things

1907
01:30:38,080 --> 01:30:41,639
Speaker 1: that have happened in recent years. And they recently saw

1908
01:30:41,840 --> 01:30:44,360
Speaker 1: Yukon win a title with Kevin Olly. They recently have

1909
01:30:44,600 --> 01:30:47,559
Speaker 1: watched Danny Hurley win a title. So now it's an

1910
01:30:47,640 --> 01:30:51,240
Speaker 1: easier sail when you're recruiting because they've done it recently.

1911
01:30:51,760 --> 01:30:54,200
Speaker 1: They've done it within range of a kid growing up

1912
01:30:54,200 --> 01:30:56,280
Speaker 1: and being able to remember those highlights and the players

1913
01:30:56,320 --> 01:30:57,280
Speaker 1: that played during that time.

1914
01:30:57,680 --> 01:30:59,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what, you get a kid or a

1915
01:31:00,160 --> 01:31:03,479
Speaker 2: coach from UCLA trying to recruit a kid. Those kids

1916
01:31:03,520 --> 01:31:06,639
Speaker 2: have no idea what UCLA did dominating in the sixties

1917
01:31:06,640 --> 01:31:09,759
Speaker 2: and seven. They have no idea, nor should they. They're donkid.

1918
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Speaker 2: History is yesterday for a kid playing high school ball

1919
01:31:13,920 --> 01:31:16,559
Speaker 2: right now, and you know it more than anybody else, probably,

1920
01:31:16,600 --> 01:31:19,879
Speaker 2: But you work with these kids, history to them is yesterday.

1921
01:31:20,120 --> 01:31:23,080
Speaker 2: That's history to them, really, and that's all they need

1922
01:31:23,160 --> 01:31:25,760
Speaker 2: to know, really, is what happened yesterday. They don't want

1923
01:31:25,760 --> 01:31:28,040
Speaker 2: to know here about Elvin Hayes playing for the University

1924
01:31:28,080 --> 01:31:30,639
Speaker 2: of Houston. You know, Kelvin Sampson does not use Elvin

1925
01:31:30,680 --> 01:31:33,439
Speaker 2: Hayes as a recruiting tool, I'm sure because these kids

1926
01:31:33,479 --> 01:31:35,840
Speaker 2: have no idea who the big E was back in

1927
01:31:35,880 --> 01:31:36,200
Speaker 2: the day.

1928
01:31:37,600 --> 01:31:39,760
Speaker 1: No, they don't have any idea, nor do they care.

1929
01:31:39,880 --> 01:31:41,639
Speaker 1: They care about what have you done for me lately?

1930
01:31:41,720 --> 01:31:44,080
Speaker 1: What have you done most recently? They will lead me

1931
01:31:44,120 --> 01:31:46,479
Speaker 1: to believe that I can come here and win. And

1932
01:31:46,600 --> 01:31:49,000
Speaker 1: as you talked about it, young people don't want to

1933
01:31:49,960 --> 01:31:53,559
Speaker 1: associate themselves with losers. The majority of them don't. There's

1934
01:31:53,600 --> 01:31:55,599
Speaker 1: some that want to take on the challenge of helping

1935
01:31:55,680 --> 01:31:59,639
Speaker 1: a team turn it around. That's not the overwhelming majority

1936
01:31:59,640 --> 01:32:01,920
Speaker 1: of young young people. And so they've been able to

1937
01:32:02,000 --> 01:32:07,120
Speaker 1: recruit using success as the blueprint. Hey, we won here,

1938
01:32:07,240 --> 01:32:08,880
Speaker 1: we'll continue to win here. We get the right kind

1939
01:32:08,880 --> 01:32:12,840
Speaker 1: of guys. This is what we do. We win. To me,

1940
01:32:13,280 --> 01:32:16,080
Speaker 1: that's a little scary that when you're sitting there and

1941
01:32:16,240 --> 01:32:18,360
Speaker 1: listening to that message, because they have one and they

1942
01:32:18,400 --> 01:32:21,920
Speaker 1: have a confident nature about their approach. They have a

1943
01:32:22,000 --> 01:32:24,680
Speaker 1: coach who's confident in the players that he gets and

1944
01:32:24,720 --> 01:32:27,639
Speaker 1: how he's able to put them together on the basketball court.

1945
01:32:28,360 --> 01:32:31,479
Speaker 2: It's interesting you say that, because I think there's got

1946
01:32:31,560 --> 01:32:34,240
Speaker 2: to be some kids somewhere say, look, I want to

1947
01:32:34,320 --> 01:32:36,360
Speaker 2: go to school X. They have not a winning season

1948
01:32:36,400 --> 01:32:38,599
Speaker 2: in ten years. I think I could turn them around

1949
01:32:38,600 --> 01:32:41,960
Speaker 2: to help them. However, I think the problem being is

1950
01:32:42,040 --> 01:32:45,040
Speaker 2: that these kids who are recruited are so used to

1951
01:32:45,160 --> 01:32:48,439
Speaker 2: winning they couldn't handle losing. You know, you're recruiting a

1952
01:32:48,520 --> 01:32:51,800
Speaker 2: five star blue chipper who's probably never lost or had

1953
01:32:51,840 --> 01:32:54,719
Speaker 2: a losing season in his high school career. Why would

1954
01:32:54,760 --> 01:32:56,320
Speaker 2: he go to a school that hadn't had a winning

1955
01:32:56,360 --> 01:32:59,600
Speaker 2: season in five, six, ten years. That's the problem. But

1956
01:32:59,680 --> 01:33:01,800
Speaker 2: I think that everybody would love to have that ego

1957
01:33:02,200 --> 01:33:05,320
Speaker 2: and have their legacy on their name that hey, they

1958
01:33:05,400 --> 01:33:08,040
Speaker 2: didn't win until I got there. But I don't think

1959
01:33:08,120 --> 01:33:10,639
Speaker 2: kids will do that because they don't know how to lose.

1960
01:33:11,080 --> 01:33:12,720
Speaker 2: I mean, you know how to win, but you don't

1961
01:33:12,720 --> 01:33:14,720
Speaker 2: know how to lose. I think it's important also to

1962
01:33:14,880 --> 01:33:16,600
Speaker 2: learn how to lose, and as a coach, you know that.

1963
01:33:16,880 --> 01:33:18,599
Speaker 2: I think it's important to learn how to lose.

1964
01:33:20,640 --> 01:33:23,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's very important to learn how to lose because

1965
01:33:23,200 --> 01:33:26,680
Speaker 1: there are lessons in those losses that can help you win.

1966
01:33:26,840 --> 01:33:29,840
Speaker 1: You can learn in a win, but a loss wakes

1967
01:33:29,880 --> 01:33:34,240
Speaker 1: you up. It increases the urgency and practice next week.

1968
01:33:34,640 --> 01:33:39,400
Speaker 1: It requires more guys to focus and lock in, especially

1969
01:33:39,439 --> 01:33:41,519
Speaker 1: if you're a team and a program that's used to

1970
01:33:41,600 --> 01:33:43,160
Speaker 1: winning way back in the day. Yeah, you got to

1971
01:33:43,200 --> 01:33:44,599
Speaker 1: lock in, you got to focus, you got to ride

1972
01:33:44,640 --> 01:33:46,760
Speaker 1: it out through the rough patches, and then when you

1973
01:33:46,920 --> 01:33:49,080
Speaker 1: start to win, you got to continue to raise the bar,

1974
01:33:49,320 --> 01:33:52,920
Speaker 1: raise the standard, raise the expectations for your team. That's

1975
01:33:53,000 --> 01:33:57,040
Speaker 1: why it's such a big deal when you get it going,

1976
01:33:57,080 --> 01:33:59,200
Speaker 1: you get it established, and why you want to continue

1977
01:33:59,320 --> 01:34:04,320
Speaker 1: to elevate those around you because you know expectations rise

1978
01:34:04,479 --> 01:34:08,960
Speaker 1: as you began to realize some of those championship dreams. Yeah.

1979
01:34:09,160 --> 01:34:11,080
Speaker 2: I mentioned this coming into this segment that there's only

1980
01:34:11,160 --> 01:34:13,760
Speaker 2: one word for this, and it's ugly. Ugly, And I

1981
01:34:13,840 --> 01:34:15,760
Speaker 2: talked about sports bring out the best and the worst

1982
01:34:15,800 --> 01:34:18,760
Speaker 2: in many and we seemed storming the basketball court after

1983
01:34:18,880 --> 01:34:21,320
Speaker 2: a win, we saw a fan beating the New England

1984
01:34:21,320 --> 01:34:24,120
Speaker 2: of a Patriots game, and that guy later passed, even

1985
01:34:24,200 --> 01:34:26,600
Speaker 2: players and coaches getting it ugly at some games, but

1986
01:34:27,280 --> 01:34:29,400
Speaker 2: this was the worst and it happened earlier this week.

1987
01:34:29,479 --> 01:34:32,960
Speaker 2: The racial incidents as the Utah women's basketball team, they

1988
01:34:33,000 --> 01:34:36,599
Speaker 2: experienced that while traveling to the NCAA tournament earlier last week,

1989
01:34:36,680 --> 01:34:39,960
Speaker 2: and there were incidents occurred surely after the traveling party

1990
01:34:40,120 --> 01:34:43,799
Speaker 2: arrived in the area to participate in the NCAA Women's

1991
01:34:43,800 --> 01:34:46,679
Speaker 2: basketball tournaments first and second rounds and they were hosted

1992
01:34:46,720 --> 01:34:50,759
Speaker 2: by Gonzaga University in Spokane, Washington, and there were two separate,

1993
01:34:51,400 --> 01:34:55,519
Speaker 2: very disturbing encounters. First, the traveling party was walking to

1994
01:34:55,640 --> 01:34:58,639
Speaker 2: a restaurant for dinner in the vicinity of their hotel.

1995
01:34:59,120 --> 01:35:02,960
Speaker 2: A card rove by and the people shouted racial advitats

1996
01:35:03,000 --> 01:35:06,360
Speaker 2: to the group. Second, on the walk back to the hotel,

1997
01:35:06,920 --> 01:35:10,160
Speaker 2: a car slowly passed the group. They rend the engine

1998
01:35:10,200 --> 01:35:12,680
Speaker 2: with the car the kids and people in the car

1999
01:35:13,080 --> 01:35:17,720
Speaker 2: shouting racially disparaging words and threats. A police report was

2000
01:35:17,800 --> 01:35:20,840
Speaker 2: filed later. I think it was a Thursday night with

2001
01:35:21,000 --> 01:35:24,799
Speaker 2: the City of Cure, the Aleen the Police Department in Idaho,

2002
01:35:25,200 --> 01:35:26,960
Speaker 2: and they continue to work on it, and I think

2003
01:35:26,960 --> 01:35:30,040
Speaker 2: it's ugly and when I hear stories like this, they're

2004
01:35:30,080 --> 01:35:32,360
Speaker 2: here in the back of my back stands up straight.

2005
01:35:32,840 --> 01:35:37,640
Speaker 2: To realize that you have people so small minded in

2006
01:35:37,760 --> 01:35:40,640
Speaker 2: this country of ours during a sporting event, to do

2007
01:35:40,760 --> 01:35:43,880
Speaker 2: this to young women, no less, who just happened to

2008
01:35:43,960 --> 01:35:47,760
Speaker 2: have maybe a different color or belief or religion or

2009
01:35:47,760 --> 01:35:52,200
Speaker 2: wherever it may be. It's just it's disgusting. I don't

2010
01:35:52,200 --> 01:35:54,200
Speaker 2: even like talking about it, but I think we have

2011
01:35:54,360 --> 01:35:56,760
Speaker 2: to bring it to life because it happened, and it

2012
01:35:56,880 --> 01:35:58,960
Speaker 2: was just a bad thing. It really was.

2013
01:36:01,560 --> 01:36:04,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a bad thing. It's not great, you know,

2014
01:36:04,439 --> 01:36:07,280
Speaker 1: and it's one of those things that you never want

2015
01:36:07,680 --> 01:36:12,439
Speaker 1: that stuff to happen, you know, Quarterlane, Idaho up there, like,

2016
01:36:12,560 --> 01:36:17,719
Speaker 1: there been talks about like that being a very touchy place,

2017
01:36:17,760 --> 01:36:20,439
Speaker 1: particularly for minorities when it comes to visiting and being

2018
01:36:20,600 --> 01:36:23,559
Speaker 1: up there or whatever. So it's unfortunate that the team

2019
01:36:23,720 --> 01:36:27,439
Speaker 1: was subject to those, you know, those things and looks

2020
01:36:27,600 --> 01:36:31,599
Speaker 1: it weird a weird time where we're having like these

2021
01:36:31,680 --> 01:36:35,600
Speaker 1: conversations and look, sports mimics life, like it imitates the

2022
01:36:35,800 --> 01:36:38,400
Speaker 1: art of life, and so the things that you deal

2023
01:36:38,479 --> 01:36:41,160
Speaker 1: with out in the public sector away from the arena,

2024
01:36:41,240 --> 01:36:43,400
Speaker 1: you also sometimes have to deal with in the arena

2025
01:36:43,520 --> 01:36:45,800
Speaker 1: and on the court, and so it's unfortunate that they

2026
01:36:45,840 --> 01:36:47,439
Speaker 1: had to deal with that. Hopefully we can get past it,

2027
01:36:47,439 --> 01:36:49,479
Speaker 1: and hopefully there's a lesson to be learned for everyone

2028
01:36:50,280 --> 01:36:51,880
Speaker 1: as we continue to discuss these things.

2029
01:36:52,240 --> 01:36:54,479
Speaker 2: You're exactly right. I think comments will be welcome on

2030
01:36:54,560 --> 01:36:57,599
Speaker 2: Twitter at Bucky Brooks, at anything from an FSL. We'd

2031
01:36:57,640 --> 01:36:59,559
Speaker 2: love to hear from you about this. Eight seven seven

2032
01:37:00,160 --> 01:37:02,840
Speaker 2: ninety nine on Fox. That translates to eighty seven seven

2033
01:37:02,920 --> 01:37:05,760
Speaker 2: nine ninety six sixty three sixty nine. And of course

2034
01:37:06,080 --> 01:37:08,519
Speaker 2: we have the blame game at the end of this album.

2035
01:37:08,640 --> 01:37:13,080
Speaker 2: Right now, one pro admits he was wrong again.

2036
01:37:13,680 --> 01:37:14,240
Speaker 1: That's next.

2037
01:37:15,360 --> 01:37:19,160
Speaker 2: The word is control, But can he We'll get to

2038
01:37:19,240 --> 01:37:21,439
Speaker 2: that in just about a minute. He is Bucky Brooks.

2039
01:37:21,640 --> 01:37:24,880
Speaker 2: I'm Andy Furman. We a Fox Sports Sunday, Fox Sports

2040
01:37:24,920 --> 01:37:28,320
Speaker 2: already we're live and thet iraq dot Com studios. And

2041
01:37:28,800 --> 01:37:31,040
Speaker 2: there's really good news here. This is nice. This is

2042
01:37:31,479 --> 01:37:35,280
Speaker 2: a good news little tidbit here. North Carolina Central coach

2043
01:37:35,760 --> 01:37:40,080
Speaker 2: Lavelle Moten and Pittsburgh Steelers coach Mike Tomlin. They've partnered

2044
01:37:40,160 --> 01:37:43,719
Speaker 2: up to launch an initiative to help young minority men's

2045
01:37:43,800 --> 01:37:48,240
Speaker 2: and women's basketball coaches gain opportunities to advance their careers.

2046
01:37:48,439 --> 01:37:50,800
Speaker 2: This is wonderful, it really is. It's called the Next

2047
01:37:51,000 --> 01:37:54,960
Speaker 2: Up Conference and aims to identify black minority coaches who

2048
01:37:55,000 --> 01:37:58,800
Speaker 2: could benefit from relationships with decision makers and executives of

2049
01:37:58,840 --> 01:38:01,880
Speaker 2: course the collegiate landscape. And it's going to be held

2050
01:38:02,240 --> 01:38:06,400
Speaker 2: May thirty and thirty one in Raleigh, North Carolina. Why

2051
01:38:06,520 --> 01:38:10,080
Speaker 2: is this a good move? Look? Two years ago, eighty

2052
01:38:10,160 --> 01:38:13,680
Speaker 2: two percent of all men's and women's basketball coaches at

2053
01:38:13,720 --> 01:38:17,799
Speaker 2: the D one level were white, according to the Institute

2054
01:38:17,840 --> 01:38:20,560
Speaker 2: for Diversity and Ethics in Sport at the University of

2055
01:38:20,640 --> 01:38:23,240
Speaker 2: Central Florida. This is a nine year old report. And

2056
01:38:23,479 --> 01:38:25,760
Speaker 2: you know what, I'm not here to say white, black,

2057
01:38:25,800 --> 01:38:29,000
Speaker 2: whatever it may be. But when you have maybe seventy

2058
01:38:29,080 --> 01:38:33,360
Speaker 2: five percent of the participants black, you know it doesn't

2059
01:38:33,400 --> 01:38:35,560
Speaker 2: make much sense to have eighty two percent of the

2060
01:38:35,640 --> 01:38:38,600
Speaker 2: coaching staffs white. Do you agree with me on that?

2061
01:38:38,720 --> 01:38:40,759
Speaker 2: I mean, you want to have people who could relate

2062
01:38:41,040 --> 01:38:43,040
Speaker 2: with one another perhaps a little bit better.

2063
01:38:43,120 --> 01:38:43,240
Speaker 3: Now.

2064
01:38:43,280 --> 01:38:46,559
Speaker 2: I know there's a lot of black associate and assistant coaches,

2065
01:38:46,640 --> 01:38:49,680
Speaker 2: but let's even up to score a little bit. Could

2066
01:38:49,720 --> 01:38:51,840
Speaker 2: we balance the scales? A little bit. Do you agree

2067
01:38:51,880 --> 01:38:52,639
Speaker 2: with me on that book?

2068
01:38:53,880 --> 01:38:56,000
Speaker 1: So I didn't even know that you're going to bring

2069
01:38:56,080 --> 01:39:00,760
Speaker 1: this up. But for disclosure, Lavelle Moten and I grew

2070
01:39:00,840 --> 01:39:04,160
Speaker 1: up together, Lamiel Laville and the Boys and Girls Club

2071
01:39:04,320 --> 01:39:08,439
Speaker 1: in Raleigh. Lavell and his older brother, Laverne grew up

2072
01:39:08,479 --> 01:39:11,600
Speaker 1: with my brother, my younger brother, Kevin, and so to

2073
01:39:11,680 --> 01:39:14,439
Speaker 1: hear that Lavell is doing this like, it's terrific. Leavell

2074
01:39:14,479 --> 01:39:16,160
Speaker 1: has been a great coach at n C Central for

2075
01:39:16,240 --> 01:39:17,960
Speaker 1: a long time. He's a great player there. He's been

2076
01:39:18,000 --> 01:39:21,920
Speaker 1: a great coach there. He's been very active in helping

2077
01:39:22,000 --> 01:39:26,080
Speaker 1: his student athletes understand opportunities at the next level. Having

2078
01:39:26,160 --> 01:39:30,320
Speaker 1: coached at an HBCU, he understands like the weight that

2079
01:39:30,439 --> 01:39:34,519
Speaker 1: it carries to have representation in those leadership positions. Mike

2080
01:39:34,600 --> 01:39:37,800
Speaker 1: Tomlin obviously has a tremendous amount of success in the

2081
01:39:38,040 --> 01:39:41,000
Speaker 1: National Football League as a head coach. He's probably gonna

2082
01:39:41,000 --> 01:39:42,200
Speaker 1: go down as one of the greatest to do it

2083
01:39:42,200 --> 01:39:44,280
Speaker 1: when you think about his record and those things for

2084
01:39:44,400 --> 01:39:47,960
Speaker 1: those guys to collab up and to show young minority

2085
01:39:48,040 --> 01:39:53,439
Speaker 1: coaches a pathways to success, pathways to those seats that

2086
01:39:53,680 --> 01:39:55,920
Speaker 1: they all desire to be in the front of the rooms.

2087
01:39:56,200 --> 01:40:00,519
Speaker 1: It's a terrific deal. And so I do believe in

2088
01:40:00,640 --> 01:40:03,160
Speaker 1: Like we're at a time where people are talking about

2089
01:40:03,200 --> 01:40:07,160
Speaker 1: DI and d EI and all of these initiatives and

2090
01:40:07,200 --> 01:40:10,479
Speaker 1: those things and wipe it those opportunities away, it is

2091
01:40:10,520 --> 01:40:14,400
Speaker 1: still as important that you have leaders within the communities

2092
01:40:14,960 --> 01:40:21,200
Speaker 1: show and demonstrate leadership and effectiveness and provide networking opportunities

2093
01:40:21,400 --> 01:40:25,519
Speaker 1: and teach the next generation how to succeed and maybe

2094
01:40:25,600 --> 01:40:27,559
Speaker 1: to get to the seats that they've been blessed to meet.

2095
01:40:28,439 --> 01:40:32,840
Speaker 2: I don't care how many tournaments, games won, championships, Laville

2096
01:40:32,880 --> 01:40:35,599
Speaker 2: Mowten has ever won an NC Central I don't care.

2097
01:40:36,240 --> 01:40:38,479
Speaker 2: The fact is that his legacy will re remembered to

2098
01:40:38,600 --> 01:40:42,080
Speaker 2: helping those that want to gain into the profession down

2099
01:40:42,160 --> 01:40:44,519
Speaker 2: the road. That's his legacy, which to me is more

2100
01:40:44,560 --> 01:40:47,360
Speaker 2: important than any trophy you could ever bring home. Now,

2101
01:40:47,520 --> 01:40:50,200
Speaker 2: how long guess you known? But how long has he

2102
01:40:50,320 --> 01:40:51,960
Speaker 2: been coaching in North Carolina Central?

2103
01:40:52,920 --> 01:40:54,400
Speaker 1: For a long time. I mean he's been there for

2104
01:40:54,439 --> 01:40:56,080
Speaker 1: a long time. His teams has won, He's led him

2105
01:40:56,080 --> 01:40:59,519
Speaker 1: to the tournament, they've won their conference. He's just really

2106
01:40:59,720 --> 01:41:02,200
Speaker 1: a like a like a great coach, like I can

2107
01:41:02,280 --> 01:41:03,960
Speaker 1: only tell you, man, he was a great player as

2108
01:41:04,000 --> 01:41:05,640
Speaker 1: a high school player. He played against my brother in

2109
01:41:05,720 --> 01:41:08,680
Speaker 1: high school at in thew High School in Raleigh. But

2110
01:41:10,200 --> 01:41:14,400
Speaker 1: it is fantastic that he is taking upon himself to

2111
01:41:14,479 --> 01:41:17,160
Speaker 1: team up with Mike Tomlin to kind of put this together.

2112
01:41:17,280 --> 01:41:19,880
Speaker 1: It's a really really it's great interesting thing and how

2113
01:41:19,960 --> 01:41:23,280
Speaker 1: they've kind of linked up to do it. But I

2114
01:41:23,320 --> 01:41:26,880
Speaker 1: guess they've known each other for over a decade. Lavelle

2115
01:41:27,800 --> 01:41:30,360
Speaker 1: is a Steelers fan and would always go to training

2116
01:41:30,400 --> 01:41:31,920
Speaker 1: camp and then they just kind of put it together.

2117
01:41:32,040 --> 01:41:35,479
Speaker 1: So this is Look, it's great that it's kind of

2118
01:41:35,520 --> 01:41:36,280
Speaker 1: working out that way.

2119
01:41:36,800 --> 01:41:38,479
Speaker 2: You know, it's great. But I'm a little upset that

2120
01:41:38,560 --> 01:41:41,599
Speaker 2: there's not more coaches involved with the program. I guess

2121
01:41:41,640 --> 01:41:43,560
Speaker 2: they will join down the road, but I like to

2122
01:41:43,760 --> 01:41:46,560
Speaker 2: see and read more names involved in this. Now. I

2123
01:41:46,680 --> 01:41:50,080
Speaker 2: may be mistaken here, but the late great number twenty

2124
01:41:50,120 --> 01:41:52,960
Speaker 2: four from the Boston Celtics, Sam Jones, played for North

2125
01:41:52,960 --> 01:41:55,400
Speaker 2: Carolina Central. I wonder if he was coached by Levelle mowten.

2126
01:41:57,240 --> 01:41:58,639
Speaker 1: No, Laville is a younger guy.

2127
01:41:58,680 --> 01:42:01,439
Speaker 2: He was not coached, but you do remember Sam Jones.

2128
01:42:01,920 --> 01:42:04,880
Speaker 1: I do remember Sam Jones and Laville definitely was not

2129
01:42:05,040 --> 01:42:07,800
Speaker 1: coaching here. Val is younger than me and so that

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Speaker 1: would not be possible.

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Speaker 2: Sam Jones were the great bank shot artists of the NBA.

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Speaker 2: Was always off the glass and good with Sam Jones

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Speaker 2: number twenty four who played in the backcourt with number

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Speaker 2: twenty five KC. Jones and both have passed. And those

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Speaker 2: guys were great players. I remember watching them growing up.

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Speaker 2: But we continue, Okay, let's get some more coaches involved

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Speaker 2: with that situation with Mike Tom and what a great thing.

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Speaker 2: And you know what that and to me, hasn't been

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Speaker 2: publicized as much as should be publicized. Don't you agree?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right, Like I'm just hearing of it. So

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Speaker 1: now is fantastic you brought it up. But now those

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Speaker 1: things should be publicized. You want more involvement, more activist

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Speaker 1: and more people involved to uplift the other generation, the

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Speaker 1: next generation of coaches that are coming up. So it's great, no.

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Speaker 2: Doubt about that. All right, He's Bucket Brooks and Andy Furman.

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Speaker 2: the end. Now it is a little too late, just

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Speaker 2: a little too late for this group. That's next for

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Speaker 2: first Kevin Wyatt with all your sports.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Elite eight action in March Madness Saturday had two

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Speaker 5: teams punched their tickets to the final four, Ukon winning

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Speaker 5: in an absolutely dominating fashion against Illinois seventy seven to

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Speaker 5: fifty two. Is the Huskies at one point, we're on

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Speaker 5: a thirty to nothing run Alabama race a thirteen point deficit,

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Speaker 5: they'd be Clemson eighty nine eighty two out in Los

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Speaker 5: Angeles to win the West Region. And today we have

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Speaker 5: two more games coming up in the Elite Eight at

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Speaker 5: two twenty Eastern time in the Midwest Region in Detroit,

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Speaker 5: top seeded Perdue second seed in Tennessee. Then at five

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Speaker 5: o'clock it'll be four seeded Duke eleventh seed at NC State. Now,

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Speaker 5: keep in mind the wolf Pack just to get into

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Speaker 5: the Big Dance had to win five straight games in

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Speaker 5: the ACC Tournament. They now have won three March Madness games,

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Speaker 5: so they're on an eight game postseason winning streak right now.

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Speaker 5: The wolf Pack playing incredibly well, but they're going against

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Speaker 5: one of the biggest Blue bud programs that are out there,

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Speaker 5: the Duke Blue Devils. In the professional ranks, the Celtics

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Speaker 5: and NBA best fifty eight and sixteen. They win at

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Speaker 5: New Orleans one to four ninety two, The Magic dominate

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Speaker 5: the Memphis Grizzlies one eighteen eighty eight, and the Milwaukee

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Speaker 5: Bucks winners at Atlanta won twenty two to one thirteen.

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Speaker 5: Major League Baseball Cardinals over the Dodgers in ten inning

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Speaker 5: six ' five as Joe Kelly had a rough inning

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Speaker 5: in the seventh as he gave up five runs. Dodgers

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Speaker 5: actually were able to come back and tie it up

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Speaker 5: in the ninth on a Mookie Bets home run in

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Speaker 5: a Max Muntzy's single, but the Cardinals would take the

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Speaker 5: lead in the tenth and the Dodgers would leave the

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Speaker 5: bases loaded in the tenth inning and not able to

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Speaker 5: get a run across. Seattle beats Boston for to three

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Speaker 5: in ten innings. They scored three times including the game

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Speaker 5: winning RBI hit by Julio Rodriguez yankees I five to

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Speaker 5: three win at Houston. They had to come from behind,

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Speaker 5: and the new UFL started on Saturday as Birmingham opened

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Speaker 5: the new season with a twenty seven to fourteen win

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Speaker 5: at Arlington and Michigan eighteen sixty winners against the Saint

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Speaker 5: Louis BattleHawks on a sixty four yard field goal they

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Speaker 5: got the win.

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Speaker 2: That's you guys, all right, keV have a great day,

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Speaker 2: Thanks for all your health, thanks for all you do,

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Speaker 2: and say goodbye. That's coming right up. He's Bucky Brooks.

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Speaker 2: I'm Andy Fermerwee of Fox Sports Sunny of Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: The blame game coming up about eight nine minutes from now,

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Speaker 2: and of course we are here at the tai iraq

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Speaker 2: dot Com studios. Now, let's get into this for a

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Speaker 2: second because we've got a little story about Draymond Green.

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01:45:41,800 --> 01:45:43,639
Speaker 2: He's in the news. Every time he's in the news.

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01:45:44,120 --> 01:45:47,280
Speaker 2: It really is kind of controversial. It's nothing really super,

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Speaker 2: although he's a great player and it'll probably be in

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Speaker 2: the Hall of Fame. But Thursday night against the Warriors

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01:45:52,080 --> 01:45:55,240
Speaker 2: Orlando game, and the Warriors were in the first quarter

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Speaker 2: through he was thrown out. Like about eight minutes left

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Speaker 2: in the first quarter, Draymond Green was thrown out again,

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Speaker 2: his fourth ejection of the year. Now, I got to ask,

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Speaker 2: you played the game. I get it.

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Speaker 1: I get it.

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Speaker 2: People get emotional, they get crazy, they're not happy with calls,

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Speaker 2: with officials calls. I understand that. But is it emotion

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01:46:13,280 --> 01:46:15,600
Speaker 2: or does he have a problem. That's the question I have.

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Speaker 2: He's the first player to be ejected at least four

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Speaker 2: times in a season since Kevin Durant was ejected four

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Speaker 2: times in twenty seven to twenty eighteen. I don't understand

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Speaker 2: the problem with Draymond Green. I enjoy watching him play.

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Speaker 2: I like his emotion. I like the fact that he's

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Speaker 2: there to play every game. It gives a one hundrede

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Speaker 2: hundred and ten percent. As they say, but you got

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01:46:35,880 --> 01:46:37,679
Speaker 2: to control the emotions. They're really.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you have to control the emotions. And I would say, look,

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01:46:43,080 --> 01:46:45,519
Speaker 1: there's an issue. And the reason there's an issue because

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Speaker 1: this repeatedly comes up and Draymond Green has played in

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Speaker 1: the league for too long to be involved in these

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Speaker 1: kinds of issues. And if he is unable to control

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Speaker 1: his emotions in those things, it's problematic, particularly for a

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Speaker 1: team that is struggling. He has to have enough awareness

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01:47:02,680 --> 01:47:05,920
Speaker 1: to understand game situation and circumstance and when you can

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Speaker 1: put yourself in a compromising position and when you can't.

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Speaker 1: And what he did the other night was unacceptable. He

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Speaker 1: left his teammates, his quote unquote brothers out to dry.

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Speaker 1: And that's a very selfish act. And he can't do that.

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Speaker 1: He knows better. He's done it before in the past.

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Speaker 1: And at some point, as an organization man, you grow

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01:47:23,240 --> 01:47:25,839
Speaker 1: tired of that. You know, it becomes a bigger distraction,

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Speaker 1: it becomes detrimental to the squad. And I don't know

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Speaker 1: how long they can continue to I guess kind of

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01:47:33,439 --> 01:47:36,320
Speaker 1: be okay with it, you know, because look, it's two

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01:47:36,560 --> 01:47:38,599
Speaker 1: things you're doing, either coaching or you're allowing to happen.

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01:47:38,840 --> 01:47:41,360
Speaker 1: And so they've allowed it to happen for a long time.

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01:47:41,720 --> 01:47:44,560
Speaker 1: At some point, Steve Kerr, the organization, they got to

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Speaker 1: sit together and figure out, Draymond, what are we doing.

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Speaker 1: We can't continue to do this, or they have to

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Speaker 1: part ways.

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Speaker 2: In the league as well. And let's see it directly

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Speaker 2: from Draymond Drean, what do you got to say for yourself.

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Speaker 7: I said what I said, I deserve to get kicked

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01:47:56,479 --> 01:47:58,479
Speaker 7: out at that point, and what I said from a

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01:47:58,479 --> 01:48:01,000
Speaker 7: while away, honest with Charlotte kind of trying to turn

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01:48:01,080 --> 01:48:02,960
Speaker 7: my body and angle and go to the bench, and

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Speaker 7: I said what I said, like a little too soon

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01:48:05,479 --> 01:48:09,439
Speaker 7: before angling my body to the bench. But yeah, it

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01:48:09,560 --> 01:48:14,000
Speaker 7: just can't happen. And you know that, like we need

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01:48:14,040 --> 01:48:18,640
Speaker 7: to win games. So like I said, not going to overreact,

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01:48:18,720 --> 01:48:21,280
Speaker 7: like ah man like, stuff is never as good as

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Speaker 7: it seems, is never as bad as it seems. Like

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Speaker 7: I know where I am, I understand what I'm doing

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Speaker 7: moving for and in my position.

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Speaker 1: Just make sure that that's the exception and not the rule.

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Speaker 2: No, wait a minute, it is the rule. And Drayman,

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Speaker 2: if it was the first time, I believe you. But

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Speaker 2: it was your nineteenth career regular season ejection, the second

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Speaker 2: most in NBA history, and you might need some help.

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Speaker 2: Let's take a listen. Maybe the coach, Steve car himself,

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Speaker 2: has something to say about that, because you're the guy

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Speaker 2: that's supposed to coach him, and maybe calm him down. Coach,

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Speaker 2: what do you got to say, too bad?

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Speaker 1: It was unfortunate, he deserved it.

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Speaker 2: And you know, he'll he'll bounce back amazing.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I mean, teammates got to come up to this guy

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01:49:11,640 --> 01:49:14,680
Speaker 2: and say, look, you're not only hurting yourself, you're hurting us.

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Speaker 2: We need you on the court, and for you to

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Speaker 2: get ejected than the eight minute mark in the first

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01:49:19,360 --> 01:49:22,400
Speaker 2: quarter doesn't do anybody any good. And the NBA has

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Speaker 2: got to step in. They got to do something. I mean,

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Speaker 2: it's not just a Golden State Warrior situation. I think

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01:49:27,680 --> 01:49:28,920
Speaker 2: it's an NBA situation.

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01:49:30,280 --> 01:49:32,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, look, the NBA can step in for

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01:49:32,960 --> 01:49:34,839
Speaker 1: those things. But it wasn't a fight. It was an ejection,

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01:49:35,200 --> 01:49:37,400
Speaker 1: you know, like that's not warm where the league steps

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01:49:37,439 --> 01:49:39,560
Speaker 1: in and it's like, hey, Dremond this and that this

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01:49:39,720 --> 01:49:41,360
Speaker 1: is more of a team thing. This is more of

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01:49:41,439 --> 01:49:44,760
Speaker 1: a Steve Kerk Golden State Warrior. We need to sit

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Speaker 1: down with our star player and talk to him because

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01:49:47,160 --> 01:49:49,760
Speaker 1: he's costing the team and we're in a situation where

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01:49:49,800 --> 01:49:51,880
Speaker 1: we can't give away games. So they gave away game

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01:49:51,920 --> 01:49:56,280
Speaker 1: because Draymond Green was not available to play. No, I mean,

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Speaker 1: just look around. He has to be able to read

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Speaker 1: the room. He has to know that he can't get

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01:49:59,680 --> 01:50:02,320
Speaker 1: involved and that stuff, and you can only tell the

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01:50:02,360 --> 01:50:04,280
Speaker 1: players so many times before you have to show them

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Speaker 1: why it's not acceptable by even cutting him or moving

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01:50:07,840 --> 01:50:09,880
Speaker 1: on from him via trade or some other vehicle.

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Speaker 2: You agree, he's a Hall of Famer when he retires, though, don't.

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Speaker 1: You think he's gonna be a Hall of Famer because

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Speaker 1: of the collective? You know, because of the group, because

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Speaker 1: they've been one of the more dominant teams of this era.

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01:50:21,479 --> 01:50:23,200
Speaker 1: He would go in and it's the Big Three. But

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01:50:23,320 --> 01:50:25,960
Speaker 1: this does tarnish it. It does make it harder when

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01:50:26,000 --> 01:50:28,040
Speaker 1: you have the conversation in the room about who should

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Speaker 1: be a Hall of Famer or not. It's easy to

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01:50:30,160 --> 01:50:33,960
Speaker 1: say that that Steph is in, but then how do

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01:50:34,000 --> 01:50:36,360
Speaker 1: you put Clay and Draymond and how do you rank

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01:50:36,479 --> 01:50:39,960
Speaker 1: them when it comes to you know where they go?

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Speaker 1: And that stuff like this will play a put a

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01:50:43,000 --> 01:50:45,559
Speaker 1: black mark a little bit on his candidcy because it's

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01:50:45,600 --> 01:50:48,280
Speaker 1: just been so much. You talked about nineteen ejections, second

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01:50:48,360 --> 01:50:50,800
Speaker 1: most in league history. I mean, that's a lot of ejections.

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01:50:50,880 --> 01:50:55,360
Speaker 1: That's a lot of selfish decisions and behaviors that it

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01:50:55,600 --> 01:50:59,479
Speaker 1: probably cost your team games. Yeah, it's not a good

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01:50:59,520 --> 01:51:02,400
Speaker 1: look he's going into Hall of Fame, but certainly doesn't

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01:51:02,400 --> 01:51:03,120
Speaker 1: help his Tennessey.

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Speaker 2: Well, the good news is, I mean that he will

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Speaker 2: be a Hall of Famer. And the better news is

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Speaker 2: that if you live in the San Francisco Golden State area,

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Speaker 2: you have a team, But if you live in Oakland,

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01:51:12,560 --> 01:51:15,479
Speaker 2: you don't have a team. Because thousands of athletics fans

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01:51:15,600 --> 01:51:19,639
Speaker 2: gathered in the Coliseum South parking lot before Thursday night's

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01:51:19,680 --> 01:51:22,439
Speaker 2: opening game against the Cleveland Guardians to try out a

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01:51:22,479 --> 01:51:26,000
Speaker 2: new way of displaying their displeasure with the team's ownership

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01:51:26,439 --> 01:51:29,960
Speaker 2: showing up but staying away at the beginning of the

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01:51:30,000 --> 01:51:33,719
Speaker 2: team's final year. Perhaps in Oakland, fans were waiving hundreds

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01:51:33,760 --> 01:51:38,479
Speaker 2: of sell flags. They ate free tacos, and they listened

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Speaker 2: to live music. Look, they probably had more fans and

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01:51:41,760 --> 01:51:44,559
Speaker 2: they announced the crowd in the parking lot for thirteen

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01:51:44,680 --> 01:51:47,160
Speaker 2: thousand plus. They had more fans in the parking lot

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01:51:47,360 --> 01:51:50,120
Speaker 2: that that teams drawn in the stadium over the last

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01:51:50,160 --> 01:51:52,360
Speaker 2: four or five six years. All Right, And I get it.

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Speaker 1: It's not totally the.

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01:51:53,200 --> 01:51:55,840
Speaker 2: Fans fall, and maybe it's not totally the ownership full

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01:51:56,040 --> 01:51:58,200
Speaker 2: because the city of Oakland will not put any repairs

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Speaker 2: in that dump of a coliseum, and it is a dump.

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Speaker 2: The sewers are backing up in the locker rooms and

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Speaker 2: things like that. But I think it's a destiny right

2340
01:52:05,600 --> 01:52:07,920
Speaker 2: now that the Oakland A's will be leaving and they'll

2341
01:52:07,920 --> 01:52:09,920
Speaker 2: be going to Las Vegas next year. And I think

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01:52:09,960 --> 01:52:13,240
Speaker 2: it's great for baseball because obviously that city can support

2343
01:52:13,439 --> 01:52:14,439
Speaker 2: Major League Baseball.

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01:52:17,080 --> 01:52:20,680
Speaker 1: Yes, Unfortunately, like having spent time in Oakland, you know,

2345
01:52:20,840 --> 01:52:23,559
Speaker 1: three years they're living there, going to A's games, taking

2346
01:52:23,600 --> 01:52:25,960
Speaker 1: the bar train to go to the games, and understanding

2347
01:52:26,520 --> 01:52:30,639
Speaker 1: how much the A's mean to the city. I can't

2348
01:52:30,720 --> 01:52:35,439
Speaker 1: tell you how much pride the Oakland natives took in,

2349
01:52:36,200 --> 01:52:38,320
Speaker 1: you know, their A's, the athletics, and how big of

2350
01:52:38,360 --> 01:52:39,640
Speaker 1: a deal it is. And for them to go to

2351
01:52:39,760 --> 01:52:41,679
Speaker 1: Vegas and not be a part of the community anymore,

2352
01:52:41,760 --> 01:52:45,599
Speaker 1: it's heartbreaking. They should be upset. They should be upset

2353
01:52:45,640 --> 01:52:49,040
Speaker 1: at not only then being removed, but how ownership has

2354
01:52:49,080 --> 01:52:51,880
Speaker 1: treated the team the last few years, not spending money,

2355
01:52:52,000 --> 01:52:55,840
Speaker 1: not helping them put the best possible team together. I mean,

2356
01:52:55,880 --> 01:53:01,240
Speaker 1: it's a very selfish act and ownership for them. I mean, look,

2357
01:53:01,840 --> 01:53:04,400
Speaker 1: they should be criticized, They should be called a task.

2358
01:53:04,960 --> 01:53:07,200
Speaker 2: I'm with you right there, and it's a shame. I mean,

2359
01:53:07,240 --> 01:53:09,719
Speaker 2: this team started out if you look at the history

2360
01:53:09,760 --> 01:53:12,960
Speaker 2: books way back when in Philadelphia as the athletics. They

2361
01:53:13,040 --> 01:53:15,400
Speaker 2: moved to Kansas City as athletics. Now they go to

2362
01:53:15,520 --> 01:53:17,639
Speaker 2: Oakland and they're going to go back to Maybe they're

2363
01:53:17,640 --> 01:53:20,200
Speaker 2: coming back east. They're going from Oakland to Vegas. Maybe

2364
01:53:20,200 --> 01:53:22,280
Speaker 2: we're going to go back eventually Kansas City and then

2365
01:53:22,560 --> 01:53:25,880
Speaker 2: Philadelphia again. Who knows. I don't know, but I feel

2366
01:53:25,960 --> 01:53:28,240
Speaker 2: for the fans. You know, it's a big loss for

2367
01:53:28,360 --> 01:53:31,639
Speaker 2: the team leaves the city. Economically, it's a big loss,

2368
01:53:31,720 --> 01:53:35,160
Speaker 2: you know, tourism, restaurants, hotels, whatever it may be. But

2369
01:53:35,720 --> 01:53:38,679
Speaker 2: bye by A's they're out of there. This year their

2370
01:53:38,760 --> 01:53:41,800
Speaker 2: last year, all right. Just like in basketball, the successful

2371
01:53:41,800 --> 01:53:45,120
Speaker 2: game plan starts with the right players the team attractor

2372
01:53:45,200 --> 01:53:48,639
Speaker 2: supply brings hustle and heart, and that's what really sets

2373
01:53:48,720 --> 01:53:51,320
Speaker 2: them apart. So lace up your sneakers and make the

2374
01:53:51,400 --> 01:53:55,160
Speaker 2: winning play by heading to your local tractor supply store today.

2375
01:53:55,600 --> 01:53:59,559
Speaker 2: Bucky brooks Andy Furman, the game you wish you could play,

2376
01:54:00,080 --> 01:54:04,559
Speaker 2: The blame game. It's freaking next, all right, Little Stevie

2377
01:54:04,640 --> 01:54:07,040
Speaker 2: Wonder with the play game blame game. Right around the corner.

2378
01:54:07,320 --> 01:54:09,800
Speaker 2: This is Fox Sports Sunday on Fox Sports Radio. He

2379
01:54:10,000 --> 01:54:12,679
Speaker 2: is Bucky Brookes on Andy Firman, about twelve minutes before

2380
01:54:12,720 --> 01:54:14,400
Speaker 2: the top of the hour, and we're Alyve from the

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01:54:14,479 --> 01:54:16,519
Speaker 2: tire rap dot Com studios. And by the way, we

2382
01:54:16,560 --> 01:54:19,000
Speaker 2: want to thank our tremendous staff, Kevin Wyat with all

2383
01:54:19,000 --> 01:54:21,880
Speaker 2: the sports updates, Mark Ramsey doing all the controls, and

2384
01:54:21,960 --> 01:54:24,120
Speaker 2: of course the high man taking care of business. But

2385
01:54:24,240 --> 01:54:27,840
Speaker 2: right now top of the hour, Brian no, Rich Orenberger

2386
01:54:27,960 --> 01:54:30,640
Speaker 2: and Bill Krakenberger. That'll be at nine o'clock easton. But

2387
01:54:30,840 --> 01:54:32,560
Speaker 2: let's play the playing game.

2388
01:54:32,720 --> 01:54:33,560
Speaker 1: You ruin me.

2389
01:54:33,800 --> 01:54:36,640
Speaker 2: It's all your fault. No, it's your fault.

2390
01:54:36,840 --> 01:54:38,160
Speaker 1: What is all your fault?

2391
01:54:41,680 --> 01:54:44,960
Speaker 2: Maybe it's everyone's fault. Who knows the liar?

2392
01:54:45,160 --> 01:54:47,440
Speaker 3: That's why here's the blame game, the blame game.

2393
01:54:47,560 --> 01:54:49,080
Speaker 2: Let's figure out who to blame?

2394
01:54:50,160 --> 01:54:53,560
Speaker 6: All right, the blame game. So we're just gonna jump

2395
01:54:53,640 --> 01:54:56,000
Speaker 6: right into it today. The first question we got for

2396
01:54:56,080 --> 01:55:01,240
Speaker 6: you guys, U NC basketball star Armando Bacon admitted he's

2397
01:55:01,280 --> 01:55:05,120
Speaker 6: gotten messages from angry betters in recent weeks. Who do

2398
01:55:05,200 --> 01:55:05,920
Speaker 6: you blame, Bucky?

2399
01:55:07,160 --> 01:55:10,320
Speaker 1: Uh, Look, I just blame society. In general, I think

2400
01:55:10,400 --> 01:55:14,760
Speaker 1: fans are fanatical about their supposed relationship with these players,

2401
01:55:14,800 --> 01:55:16,440
Speaker 1: the fact that they reach out to them to get

2402
01:55:16,560 --> 01:55:19,920
Speaker 1: upset about fantasy football results. They get upset about gambling results. Hey,

2403
01:55:19,960 --> 01:55:22,600
Speaker 1: you don't like how it plays out, don't gamble as

2404
01:55:22,640 --> 01:55:23,280
Speaker 1: the fans fault?

2405
01:55:23,880 --> 01:55:26,800
Speaker 2: Andy, who's going, Oh, there's just too many opportunities for

2406
01:55:26,880 --> 01:55:28,880
Speaker 2: people to get on their phone and there's so many

2407
01:55:28,920 --> 01:55:31,240
Speaker 2: outlets to wager. That's what they do. But you know what,

2408
01:55:31,360 --> 01:55:33,960
Speaker 2: i'mando play a little better and maybe they won't be

2409
01:55:34,040 --> 01:55:36,640
Speaker 2: mad at you. That's all of you. Look, you lost,

2410
01:55:36,960 --> 01:55:38,920
Speaker 2: you and see loss, will play a little better, and

2411
01:55:39,080 --> 01:55:41,160
Speaker 2: you know people have faith in you. You should be

2412
01:55:41,240 --> 01:55:42,040
Speaker 2: happy they.

2413
01:55:42,040 --> 01:55:42,520
Speaker 3: Bet on you.

2414
01:55:44,080 --> 01:55:44,400
Speaker 1: All right?

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01:55:44,480 --> 01:55:47,960
Speaker 6: Well, why aren't there any women coaching men's basketball teams?

2416
01:55:48,000 --> 01:55:48,760
Speaker 6: Who do you blame?

2417
01:55:48,920 --> 01:55:49,240
Speaker 1: Andy?

2418
01:55:51,040 --> 01:55:53,400
Speaker 2: You know what, I think the old guard They just

2419
01:55:53,480 --> 01:55:55,360
Speaker 2: won't allow the women to get on the bench with

2420
01:55:55,440 --> 01:55:57,080
Speaker 2: the men. They don't think it would work out. I

2421
01:55:57,160 --> 01:55:59,320
Speaker 2: don't know. I mean, there are men coaching women and

2422
01:55:59,360 --> 01:56:02,360
Speaker 2: they would rather well in that regard, But you know what,

2423
01:56:02,880 --> 01:56:05,320
Speaker 2: women maybe want to just stay with women. I don't know.

2424
01:56:05,720 --> 01:56:07,280
Speaker 2: I think there's got to be a breakthrough. I'm not

2425
01:56:07,320 --> 01:56:09,080
Speaker 2: saying that they can't. I think there's a lot of

2426
01:56:09,160 --> 01:56:12,160
Speaker 2: women who probably could and would be successful coaching men's teams,

2427
01:56:12,240 --> 01:56:14,360
Speaker 2: but no one has really given them the opportunity to

2428
01:56:14,520 --> 01:56:14,720
Speaker 2: do so.

2429
01:56:15,120 --> 01:56:16,120
Speaker 6: Who do you blame, Bucky?

2430
01:56:17,560 --> 01:56:19,520
Speaker 1: This is a tough one. I would say it's a

2431
01:56:19,560 --> 01:56:22,120
Speaker 1: little bit of the pipeline and being a forward thinker.

2432
01:56:22,640 --> 01:56:26,160
Speaker 1: I think in basketball in particular, like you don't have

2433
01:56:26,320 --> 01:56:31,000
Speaker 1: these gender roles where guys can't take instruction from female leaders,

2434
01:56:31,080 --> 01:56:33,800
Speaker 1: so it will work. I think it's about opportunities, creating

2435
01:56:33,800 --> 01:56:36,640
Speaker 1: an opportunity, seeing someone who can do it, and giving

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01:56:36,680 --> 01:56:39,160
Speaker 1: them a chance to do it without giving them a

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01:56:39,360 --> 01:56:42,760
Speaker 1: short timeline. I think a lady like Becky Hammon could

2438
01:56:42,760 --> 01:56:45,520
Speaker 1: do it. Dawn Stay certainly get coached women's basketball. There

2439
01:56:45,520 --> 01:56:47,440
Speaker 1: are people that are available to do it. You just

2440
01:56:47,520 --> 01:56:48,840
Speaker 1: have to be willing to make it happen.

2441
01:56:50,920 --> 01:56:55,400
Speaker 6: Victor Wombinyama had a forty point twenty rebound game against

2442
01:56:55,440 --> 01:56:57,560
Speaker 6: the next the other day, the most by an NBA

2443
01:56:57,720 --> 01:56:59,920
Speaker 6: rookie since Shack Bucky.

2444
01:57:00,040 --> 01:57:05,480
Speaker 1: Who do you blame, look, man, I blame victim for

2445
01:57:05,640 --> 01:57:07,880
Speaker 1: his greatness. He came into the league. He's lived up

2446
01:57:07,880 --> 01:57:11,280
Speaker 1: to the hype and the expectation, even though it hasn't

2447
01:57:11,320 --> 01:57:14,720
Speaker 1: really changed the state of the union for San Antonio.

2448
01:57:14,880 --> 01:57:17,400
Speaker 1: He has been terrific. He's been everything that they said

2449
01:57:17,440 --> 01:57:19,000
Speaker 1: that he would be. So I give him the credit

2450
01:57:19,080 --> 01:57:19,880
Speaker 1: for the work that he's put in.

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01:57:20,160 --> 01:57:22,600
Speaker 2: Andy, you know, wait a minute, they won the game,

2452
01:57:22,720 --> 01:57:24,800
Speaker 2: so obviously the I'm not blaming anybody, But what about

2453
01:57:24,840 --> 01:57:27,000
Speaker 2: Jalen Brunton. Didn't they have sixty one in that game?

2454
01:57:27,040 --> 01:57:27,240
Speaker 6: Point?

2455
01:57:27,520 --> 01:57:27,720
Speaker 1: Yeah?

2456
01:57:28,560 --> 01:57:31,360
Speaker 2: You know, so blame the Knicks for not supporting Jalen Brunton.

2457
01:57:31,400 --> 01:57:34,280
Speaker 2: But this kid's going to be a superstar in San Antonio.

2458
01:57:34,440 --> 01:57:36,760
Speaker 2: He really is, and I wouldn't blame anybody. Maybe lack

2459
01:57:36,800 --> 01:57:38,840
Speaker 2: of defense on the Knicks pot, but you know, the

2460
01:57:39,040 --> 01:57:43,680
Speaker 2: Jalen Brunson situation was really shadowed by that performance by

2461
01:57:43,720 --> 01:57:46,240
Speaker 2: the big Man in San Antonio. Sixty one points from

2462
01:57:46,240 --> 01:57:48,680
Speaker 2: the Knicks. That's huge. I don't remember anybody scoring that

2463
01:57:48,760 --> 01:57:50,120
Speaker 2: many points for a Nick game.

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01:57:51,200 --> 01:57:54,760
Speaker 6: The NFL says there will be much more streaming options

2465
01:57:54,800 --> 01:57:57,360
Speaker 6: in twenty twenty four in terms of there being exclusive

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01:57:57,440 --> 01:58:00,480
Speaker 6: games for Peacock. Remember that was a a big controversy

2467
01:58:00,520 --> 01:58:02,680
Speaker 6: this past year. Andy, who do you blame?

2468
01:58:03,520 --> 01:58:07,320
Speaker 2: I blame money, That's what it's all about revenue streaming,

2469
01:58:07,400 --> 01:58:10,560
Speaker 2: and the commissioner of the National Football That, Roger Goodell,

2470
01:58:10,600 --> 01:58:12,880
Speaker 2: comes out and says, we want to put a footprint

2471
01:58:13,120 --> 01:58:16,560
Speaker 2: on various places. On September, the sixth Friday night of

2472
01:58:16,600 --> 01:58:18,879
Speaker 2: this year, there's going to be a game in Brazil

2473
01:58:19,280 --> 01:58:21,200
Speaker 2: on TV. I think it's going to be the Eagles

2474
01:58:21,240 --> 01:58:24,040
Speaker 2: playing someone haven't announced it yet, and that game will

2475
01:58:24,080 --> 01:58:26,560
Speaker 2: be streamed and everybody's going to be trying to watch it.

2476
01:58:26,800 --> 01:58:29,840
Speaker 2: But remember one thing. They streamed that Dolphins Kansas City

2477
01:58:29,960 --> 01:58:32,520
Speaker 2: game this past season, and that game did not have

2478
01:58:32,560 --> 01:58:34,920
Speaker 2: as many people as the game that was not streamed,

2479
01:58:35,080 --> 01:58:37,120
Speaker 2: the playoff game. So I think that people are going

2480
01:58:37,160 --> 01:58:38,920
Speaker 2: to say, you know what, I've had it. I'm fed up.

2481
01:58:39,000 --> 01:58:40,640
Speaker 2: I don't need to spend that kind of money on

2482
01:58:40,720 --> 01:58:43,000
Speaker 2: a game. I just believe that the money is killing it.

2483
01:58:43,200 --> 01:58:44,800
Speaker 2: It's killing it. Stop the streaming.

2484
01:58:46,440 --> 01:58:49,440
Speaker 1: No, I actually think is great. More opportunities, more outlets,

2485
01:58:49,760 --> 01:58:52,560
Speaker 1: all those things. I think you can see more days, more,

2486
01:58:52,920 --> 01:58:55,800
Speaker 1: more more more. Like we learned in COVID that people

2487
01:58:55,800 --> 01:58:58,240
Speaker 1: will watch football on Tuesdays, I think you'll see the

2488
01:58:58,320 --> 01:59:01,520
Speaker 1: extension of the game free A yeah, I mean, what

2489
01:59:01,680 --> 01:59:03,920
Speaker 1: with the streaming services, ay, man, Like, sometimes you gotta

2490
01:59:03,920 --> 01:59:05,520
Speaker 1: pay for stuff. You pay to watch your movies on

2491
01:59:05,640 --> 01:59:09,120
Speaker 1: Netflix and Hulu and those things. Live events have been

2492
01:59:09,160 --> 01:59:12,360
Speaker 1: the things that we haven't paid for. In some instances,

2493
01:59:12,560 --> 01:59:14,520
Speaker 1: we will pay for mma match, we'll pay for a

2494
01:59:14,560 --> 01:59:17,280
Speaker 1: boxing match. At some point, maybe you have to pay

2495
01:59:17,360 --> 01:59:20,320
Speaker 1: for a little bit of that NFL exclusivity because okay, but.

2496
01:59:20,600 --> 01:59:22,120
Speaker 2: Let me just stay with that for a segments. This

2497
01:59:22,240 --> 01:59:24,840
Speaker 2: is really irking me because I get the movies thing,

2498
01:59:25,080 --> 01:59:29,400
Speaker 2: because when they form HBO or Netflix, whatever it may be,

2499
01:59:29,920 --> 01:59:31,960
Speaker 2: you knew from the get go. You want a movie,

2500
01:59:32,000 --> 01:59:33,240
Speaker 2: you want to do this, you gotta pay for you

2501
01:59:33,320 --> 01:59:35,960
Speaker 2: gotta buy it. Football was always given to us free.

2502
01:59:36,280 --> 01:59:40,120
Speaker 2: The changing factor, that's the problem. They're changing and people

2503
01:59:40,200 --> 01:59:42,280
Speaker 2: don't like change. And I don't want to spend my

2504
01:59:42,520 --> 01:59:44,600
Speaker 2: change to buy football games on TV.

2505
01:59:47,000 --> 01:59:49,720
Speaker 1: All Right, I guess we can. I guess we can

2506
01:59:50,000 --> 01:59:51,640
Speaker 1: read the paper the next day and you can figure

2507
01:59:51,640 --> 01:59:53,919
Speaker 1: out the results if you don't pay for the streaming services.

2508
01:59:54,120 --> 01:59:57,280
Speaker 1: I mean, they're they're just Look, there's so many options.

2509
01:59:57,320 --> 01:59:59,520
Speaker 1: There's such a big inventory of games that people are

2510
01:59:59,600 --> 02:00:02,040
Speaker 1: comfortable with that I don't see an issue. It's another

2511
02:00:02,120 --> 02:00:03,200
Speaker 1: way for us to watch games.

2512
02:00:03,760 --> 02:00:05,680
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, look, you're right and there's going to

2513
02:00:05,680 --> 02:00:07,440
Speaker 2: be people doing it, but I may not be one

2514
02:00:07,440 --> 02:00:09,760
Speaker 2: of them. Otherwise, have a great day. This has been

2515
02:00:09,800 --> 02:00:12,440
Speaker 2: a tremendous show. Bucky, love you, see you next week.

2516
02:00:12,680 --> 02:00:15,280
Speaker 2: Say to keep it here on Fox next