WEBVTT - Q&A 2023 0:00:05.160 --> 0:00:12.680 Sacred twenty three, extremely extremely exciting. It's finally, finally, two 0:00:12.720 --> 0:00:17.319 thousand twenty three. That means only funny things can happen 0:00:17.400 --> 0:00:25.120 this year. That's right, selfie. Welcome to Welcome to Christy. 0:00:25.160 --> 0:00:30.640 I wouldn't hear any criticism. Welcome to Well. I don't 0:00:30.640 --> 0:00:36.320 know if I'm gonna say they're welcome, but it is good, 0:00:36.400 --> 0:00:41.880 good work. Enjoy your year of discord um as if 0:00:41.920 --> 0:00:44.519 any year of the last, like ten, has not been 0:00:44.520 --> 0:00:47.879 a year every every year previously was totally normal and 0:00:47.960 --> 0:00:54.120 not chaotic. Downhill from here. First off, welcome, welcome back. 0:00:54.320 --> 0:00:58.560 We we love some of you. Probably presumably I haven't 0:00:58.600 --> 0:01:01.240 met you, any of the ones that I love, but 0:01:01.280 --> 0:01:04.520 I assume that you're out there. How's everybody doing, how's 0:01:04.520 --> 0:01:09.440 everyone's new year? Absolute slap in the face to anyone 0:01:09.480 --> 0:01:13.720 you've met on any of your live events, that's a fairy. 0:01:13.959 --> 0:01:18.199 So nice to meet you. Thank you for coming in person. Also, 0:01:18.640 --> 0:01:23.000 fuck you. That's what this whole episode is a series 0:01:23.040 --> 0:01:26.399 of slaps to the face, because it's not for us. 0:01:26.440 --> 0:01:30.400 We're lying. We're all lying to them. Who knows if 0:01:30.440 --> 0:01:32.840 we make it that far today we're recording this on 0:01:32.880 --> 0:01:38.320 December two, and what is it? What has happened today? Friends? Also, 0:01:38.400 --> 0:01:42.200 who are you? Who is on this episode? Garrison's here? 0:01:42.240 --> 0:01:45.000 As I've already spoken into the microphone, you know who 0:01:45.000 --> 0:01:50.520 else has spoken into the microphone? Serene? Question work? Now 0:01:50.560 --> 0:02:00.320 you have Sophie, Sophie, ye, James? Oh? Miss any one left? Oh? No, Mia, 0:02:00.440 --> 0:02:02.720 I don't. I don't think I've actually spoken into this 0:02:02.760 --> 0:02:09.480 episode yet. So now I have. You've started the day? Didn't? 0:02:10.240 --> 0:02:13.760 So that's how you introduced a PODCT so incredibly awkward. 0:02:14.080 --> 0:02:17.280 It was perfect, magnificent, as if we had never done 0:02:17.280 --> 0:02:20.440 a podcast. But before we get to this, to some 0:02:20.520 --> 0:02:22.960 of the q days of what has happened today when 0:02:22.960 --> 0:02:26.400 we're recording it? Oh, well, today is the day? Is 0:02:26.440 --> 0:02:30.120 the one day anniversary of me showing Garrison the movie 0:02:30.240 --> 0:02:35.920 Strange Days, written by James Cameron um a New Year's classic. 0:02:37.040 --> 0:02:40.400 Such a good movie. Not seen it? Oh you gotta 0:02:40.520 --> 0:02:42.880 you gotta watch it? It is Robert got an alert 0:02:42.919 --> 0:02:45.880 on his phone that was just like Memories one year, 0:02:46.480 --> 0:02:51.360 a lot of one day, one day, a lot of 0:02:51.440 --> 0:02:55.720 violence against the l a p D in that film. Today, 0:02:55.760 --> 0:02:59.880 that's what's happened has happened? Yeah, definitely not a pro 0:03:00.160 --> 0:03:03.760 l a p D movie. Um. Also you you get 0:03:03.800 --> 0:03:07.639 to repeatedly see a couple of now prominent actors oh 0:03:07.680 --> 0:03:12.000 faces um, which is which is great in a slightly 0:03:12.080 --> 0:03:17.840 problematic context, deeply problematic context, but a good movie. What 0:03:17.919 --> 0:03:22.160 actors are in this movie? What's his? What's his? Ralph Find? Yeah, 0:03:22.280 --> 0:03:26.440 Ralph find is the main character, and he looks exactly 0:03:27.080 --> 0:03:31.239 like ten years ago Bradley Cooper. Bradley Cooper in this movie. 0:03:32.040 --> 0:03:35.680 So don't insult Ralph. Don't do that. They that's what 0:03:35.760 --> 0:03:39.840 I mean. Okay, well, that's cool. Um, he's great and 0:03:40.040 --> 0:03:44.680 Angela Bassett is fucking incredible in it. Queen. Yeah. Tom 0:03:44.760 --> 0:03:54.760 Sizemore is present in the movie. Alright, Well my favorite 0:03:54.840 --> 0:03:59.040 is Vincent din Afrio looks exactly like Tim Heidecker's character, 0:03:59.120 --> 0:04:00.960 and that I think you should leave sketch where they're 0:04:01.000 --> 0:04:05.440 at the UFO themed restaurant. It's it's uncanny, um that 0:04:05.480 --> 0:04:08.839 you're still doing. Uh. I think you should leave references 0:04:09.080 --> 0:04:15.160 in the Lord's I showed my family before before they 0:04:15.240 --> 0:04:18.640 left to go see other family for Christmas. I sat 0:04:18.680 --> 0:04:20.480 I sat my family down to watch the second half 0:04:20.520 --> 0:04:26.000 of season two and magnificent. Yeah, it's defined, and that 0:04:26.000 --> 0:04:28.600 that leads into my only prediction for the next year, 0:04:28.640 --> 0:04:35.760 which is this is, oh God, come on all right, 0:04:35.800 --> 0:04:41.920 who's what's the first question? Then? Well, want to know, um, 0:04:41.960 --> 0:04:44.320 in an alternate universe where it could happen here, has 0:04:44.360 --> 0:04:46.960 a corporate office, does the staff get a Robert Evans 0:04:47.000 --> 0:04:50.760 book for holiday presence or a gift card? And we 0:04:50.800 --> 0:04:55.039 can we can actually answer this because despite not having 0:04:55.080 --> 0:04:58.440 a corporate office, there's still there still was a holiday 0:04:58.440 --> 0:05:00.880 gift which I have not actually with mine yet, so 0:05:00.960 --> 0:05:03.640 I can't say what line is, but I know other 0:05:03.640 --> 0:05:07.080 people have received theirs. I don't know, Sophie, I ordered 0:05:07.120 --> 0:05:12.800 yours for well, well, Sophie, you know sometimes it would 0:05:12.800 --> 0:05:15.880 be like that tracking it's probably gonna be yes. So 0:05:15.880 --> 0:05:19.680 if you're about to ruin some ups drives day, But 0:05:19.760 --> 0:05:22.760 what did what did everyone else received for their Scarrison? 0:05:22.800 --> 0:05:26.800 Will be delivered PM today out for today? There there 0:05:26.880 --> 0:05:29.560 you go. It's okay, Garrison. I didn't get shipped either. 0:05:30.080 --> 0:05:35.320 Oh oh, did buy you something that hasn't come yet? Devastatingly, 0:05:35.640 --> 0:05:38.160 what did what did what did everyone else get for 0:05:38.160 --> 0:05:41.360 for their holiday gift? Was it a Robert Evans book? No, 0:05:41.440 --> 0:05:46.240 it wasn't God would be Oh my god, imagine you're 0:05:46.440 --> 0:05:50.799 that fucked up, that unchanged that you're like, you should 0:05:50.839 --> 0:05:57.560 do that ar gift. The second job I ever had, 0:05:57.760 --> 0:06:00.159 which was our third job, I guess, which was working 0:06:00.240 --> 0:06:04.440 for this accountant guy that's like like he was like right, 0:06:04.800 --> 0:06:08.480 he was a retirement like an advisor guy. He would 0:06:08.480 --> 0:06:11.040 help old people get their money in order to retire. 0:06:11.560 --> 0:06:14.560 It was mostly like helping him host events at like 0:06:14.600 --> 0:06:16.720 a Texas roadhouse where we would try to get old 0:06:16.720 --> 0:06:19.520 people to buy annuities. But um, so I worked for 0:06:19.520 --> 0:06:21.160 this guy. In the day I started the job, he 0:06:21.200 --> 0:06:24.040 gave me a copy of his self published novel Operation 0:06:24.200 --> 0:06:27.080 night Watch, which was about a group of Navy seals 0:06:27.120 --> 0:06:32.279 going rogue to stop drug dealers and is one of 0:06:32.320 --> 0:06:36.880 the worst things I've ever read. I mean I attempted 0:06:36.960 --> 0:06:40.000 to someone when I mentioned it once on the show. 0:06:40.080 --> 0:06:45.679 Somebody found and bought a copy and give that money 0:06:45.720 --> 0:06:49.520 to someone else. Oh, he can't be alive anymore. There's 0:06:49.560 --> 0:06:51.360 no way he said it was. It was probably all 0:06:51.440 --> 0:06:54.200 the eBay or something. Yeah, yeah, that that man has 0:06:54.240 --> 0:06:57.080 been dead for years. I'm sure we still we still 0:06:57.080 --> 0:07:00.400 have an we still have, we got time. He can's 0:07:00.520 --> 0:07:03.960 mace to to a little personal maces on the left 0:07:04.000 --> 0:07:06.960 hand one for your right hand. I really like it. 0:07:06.960 --> 0:07:10.160 It's very compact. New pepper spray has been on my 0:07:10.240 --> 0:07:12.800 tables for like months because mine was expired like a 0:07:12.880 --> 0:07:14.920 year ago. But I've never actually bought in one, and 0:07:14.960 --> 0:07:16.720 so it was perfect and I was just so tiny. 0:07:16.720 --> 0:07:18.080 I can put it in like my Fannie pack and 0:07:18.120 --> 0:07:20.840 just continue on my day. How do you know it 0:07:20.880 --> 0:07:23.880 won't work if it's expired. I just poked it up. 0:07:24.080 --> 0:07:25.560 I looked it up, and I was just like, I 0:07:25.600 --> 0:07:27.800 don't want to like, I don't know. I just it 0:07:27.840 --> 0:07:29.720 was on my tables. I obviously didn't buy it yet. 0:07:29.760 --> 0:07:31.560 It wasn't like you don't want to hurt somebody with 0:07:31.640 --> 0:07:36.520 expired pepper spray. It's a propellant that expires. Yeah, the 0:07:36.640 --> 0:07:41.000 kid itself gets like yourself. Yeah I got it. Yeah Yeah, 0:07:41.280 --> 0:07:46.280 well there you go, there you go. Um let's see, 0:07:46.600 --> 0:07:48.000 so we're going to be going through some of the 0:07:48.040 --> 0:07:50.880 questions that we got for the previous Sorry my cats 0:07:50.880 --> 0:07:53.840 are making Also. I do like that that, but that 0:07:53.920 --> 0:07:58.040 person really thought that Robert was that person that was like, hey, 0:07:58.640 --> 0:08:02.920 happy holidays, here's my book. I do get the royalties. 0:08:03.360 --> 0:08:08.200 You're welcome. We should, we should. We should use the 0:08:08.240 --> 0:08:10.680 corporate cards to buy more copies of my book. That's 0:08:10.680 --> 0:08:14.560 a good idea. So we can just ship them to 0:08:14.640 --> 0:08:19.160 the sea, though it doesn't matter where they go. For 0:08:19.320 --> 0:08:24.080 the next question, and we're using the questions from the previous, 0:08:24.160 --> 0:08:26.000 it could happen in your livestream for this, by the way, 0:08:26.080 --> 0:08:28.080 So if we didn't get to your question, we're getting 0:08:28.080 --> 0:08:32.400 to some more of them right now. Unless your questions sucked. Yeah, yeah, 0:08:32.960 --> 0:08:39.120 very personal. Yes, that's that's that's what I meant by sucked. Um. 0:08:39.520 --> 0:08:42.560 So do you know of a way to get involved 0:08:42.559 --> 0:08:45.080 in mutual aid without using social media? I don't really 0:08:45.120 --> 0:08:47.560 use it for mental health reasons. Good decision there to 0:08:47.600 --> 0:08:51.680 not use social media. Continue using social media. Yeah, Um, 0:08:51.720 --> 0:08:54.000 A lot of mutual aid organizing or you know, like 0:08:54.080 --> 0:08:58.920 requests happen on social media. Um, but I mean there's 0:09:00.400 --> 0:09:03.160 I guess it depends on how you use social media. 0:09:03.200 --> 0:09:06.360 I suppose like it might be useful to have a 0:09:06.360 --> 0:09:09.400 friend that follows some of the some of the social 0:09:09.400 --> 0:09:12.400 media stuff in your local area, whether that be on 0:09:12.400 --> 0:09:16.800 Twitter or mastered on or Instagram. Um, and then can 0:09:16.880 --> 0:09:20.920 like relay relay to you if there's local events um, 0:09:21.040 --> 0:09:23.080 or you can just like section off like once a 0:09:23.120 --> 0:09:25.240 week you check on just a few of those things 0:09:25.600 --> 0:09:27.679 and then you then you delete the app from from 0:09:27.679 --> 0:09:31.319 your phone again. Um. Because once you are like plugged 0:09:31.320 --> 0:09:33.680 into a local community, then people can just like directly 0:09:33.720 --> 0:09:37.560 send you flyers and stuff. Um. But you have to 0:09:37.600 --> 0:09:39.520 have those connections there in the first place. And those 0:09:39.520 --> 0:09:42.040 connections are really best made by going to things on 0:09:42.080 --> 0:09:43.920 the ground, whether it be you know, a food not 0:09:44.000 --> 0:09:46.400 bombs type thing, whether it be you know, like a 0:09:46.440 --> 0:09:50.320 clothing swap. Um. Lots of local events do happen in 0:09:50.320 --> 0:09:52.480 in in people's cities, and once you actually go there 0:09:52.520 --> 0:09:55.520 in person, that's where real community actually gets built. So 0:09:55.880 --> 0:09:58.280 it's it's just it's just it's kind of just breaking 0:09:58.280 --> 0:10:00.560 the ice to actually get to act go to a 0:10:00.559 --> 0:10:02.960 few in person things and then and then people can 0:10:03.000 --> 0:10:05.280 send you, you know, direct fires and stuff. If you 0:10:05.320 --> 0:10:09.320 don't want to be doom scrolling well looking for things, 0:10:09.600 --> 0:10:11.360 you don't have to even have an account if you 0:10:11.440 --> 0:10:14.679 don't decide not to. You can like view profiles on 0:10:14.720 --> 0:10:17.760 Twitter and Instagram without an account that you can't like 0:10:17.960 --> 0:10:20.240 see the comments or whatever. But if you just want 0:10:20.240 --> 0:10:21.880 to see their profile every once in a while and 0:10:21.960 --> 0:10:23.800 check in on what they're doing. You can do that 0:10:24.120 --> 0:10:27.679 online with no account. Yeah, often as well, like and 0:10:28.240 --> 0:10:30.600 well we're doing mutual aid things here. It tends to 0:10:30.600 --> 0:10:33.040 focus on the border a lot or on house people, 0:10:33.280 --> 0:10:36.959 and like in both cases you can just show up 0:10:37.000 --> 0:10:40.959 and you'll meet someone who's helping in most instances, and 0:10:41.000 --> 0:10:42.719 then they can direct you and they can text you 0:10:42.800 --> 0:10:45.360 or signal you whatever. Like there were tons of people 0:10:46.360 --> 0:10:48.640 when the migrant caravan arrived who were much older and 0:10:48.679 --> 0:10:51.920 not on social media, often with church groups, and they 0:10:51.920 --> 0:10:55.320 didn't hugely like have UM I would say a lot 0:10:55.360 --> 0:10:57.520 of experience in that kind of area, but they deeply 0:10:57.520 --> 0:10:59.439 wanted to help and they showed up and people were like, hey, 0:10:59.440 --> 0:11:00.760 can you go to us, go and get base and 0:11:00.760 --> 0:11:03.080 they want to ga absolute and yeah, and we use 0:11:03.160 --> 0:11:06.360 what's happened? It was fine, and like check around. Another 0:11:06.400 --> 0:11:08.040 option to be obviously if if you if you have 0:11:08.120 --> 0:11:11.040 like like a radical meeting space in your city, you 0:11:11.040 --> 0:11:14.400 can check their um If you don't have those, you 0:11:14.400 --> 0:11:18.360 can even check see if there's any like radical coffee 0:11:18.360 --> 0:11:20.920 shops or cafes that maybe have like a bulletin board 0:11:21.040 --> 0:11:24.160 people will often put up flyers for stuff there. Um, 0:11:24.280 --> 0:11:26.800 just you really have to do start to start trying 0:11:26.840 --> 0:11:30.559 to be like plugged into your actual like I r 0:11:30.679 --> 0:11:33.800 L local community and that's generally how that goes. Um, 0:11:34.120 --> 0:11:36.000 you have to be more proactive than if you had 0:11:36.120 --> 0:11:38.160 social media is the main thing. You still have to 0:11:38.200 --> 0:11:42.400 show up either way, right, Like, Yeah, and do you 0:11:42.400 --> 0:11:46.960 know who else wants you to show up online? Evans? 0:11:47.559 --> 0:11:50.439 I don't these products and services that want you to. 0:11:50.800 --> 0:11:57.440 We're now exclusively only sponsored by Robert's books. Yes, and 0:11:57.559 --> 0:12:11.120 here's an excerpt. All right, and we're back speaking of 0:12:11.160 --> 0:12:14.600 the Internet. Robert or anyone I suppose, do you think 0:12:14.640 --> 0:12:17.600 there's a way to get back to fulfilling the promise 0:12:17.679 --> 0:12:22.400 of the early Internet? Uh? No, Um, I don't. I 0:12:22.400 --> 0:12:26.720 think the early Internet was a thing that happened that 0:12:26.800 --> 0:12:29.400 in part was the way that it was because our 0:12:29.440 --> 0:12:33.720 brains did not have any kind of tolerance or or 0:12:33.880 --> 0:12:38.480 or like we're not like prepared for it. Um, And 0:12:38.559 --> 0:12:43.640 it it kind of grew up as we became capable 0:12:43.800 --> 0:12:47.319 of like I don't know, like the the the Internet 0:12:47.480 --> 0:12:51.360 grew more social as we got used to it. And 0:12:51.559 --> 0:12:54.439 I don't think that can ever happen again, like those 0:12:54.760 --> 0:12:59.760 those weird little moments where I don't know ye that 0:13:00.200 --> 0:13:02.120 my answer is no, I don't think it will ever 0:13:02.200 --> 0:13:04.520 happen again, in the same way that like you're never 0:13:04.559 --> 0:13:07.840 going to get those weird little moments that you you had, 0:13:08.040 --> 0:13:12.080 like the birth of you know, the printing press or whatever. 0:13:12.200 --> 0:13:14.440 Like you know, it was a unique moment in history 0:13:14.679 --> 0:13:18.480 and it's never going to come again. Which doesn't mean 0:13:18.480 --> 0:13:22.640 that something else won't happen. Um, but the Internet is 0:13:22.679 --> 0:13:26.080 not Like the fact that we've all lived through the 0:13:26.120 --> 0:13:29.360 social media era means even once all these companies go bust, 0:13:29.440 --> 0:13:32.280 our brains have still been changed by them too much 0:13:32.320 --> 0:13:35.320 to ever go back to posting the way we once did. No, 0:13:35.400 --> 0:13:38.120 we're too far gone, I think. On a kind of 0:13:38.200 --> 0:13:41.360 similar note, in a few days, we have an episode 0:13:41.440 --> 0:13:45.520 from Andrew on digital commons and this that kind of 0:13:45.559 --> 0:13:48.440 involves around this same kind of question. So in a 0:13:48.440 --> 0:13:50.080 few days we'll have we'll have an episode kind of 0:13:50.240 --> 0:13:53.679 about this topic ran by Andrew. Um, but James, you 0:13:54.040 --> 0:13:57.560 had you had something, Yeah, Sometimes like obviously like the 0:13:57.559 --> 0:13:59.720 Internet is terrible in many ways, but like when we 0:13:59.760 --> 0:14:02.120 talk about like what happened in myanma that series of 0:14:02.280 --> 0:14:05.240 Robert and I did. Like that seems to me like 0:14:05.280 --> 0:14:08.600 it's delivering on some of the promises of the early Internet, 0:14:08.640 --> 0:14:12.600 Like it's it's mad that you know, a young person 0:14:13.559 --> 0:14:16.880 like who is facing a coup and wants democracy in 0:14:16.920 --> 0:14:19.560 this part of Asia can go online speak to some 0:14:19.720 --> 0:14:23.600 dude in these aren't real places, like people are spoken 0:14:23.600 --> 0:14:25.480 to about like some some guy in his garage in 0:14:25.520 --> 0:14:28.960 Ohio who's threely printing guns, and that person can help 0:14:29.000 --> 0:14:32.040 the other person on themselves and defend their right to 0:14:32.120 --> 0:14:34.240 choose who governs them or if they're governed at all, 0:14:34.280 --> 0:14:37.560 Like that is really fucking cool, and that doesn't happen 0:14:37.600 --> 0:14:42.160 without the Internet, and so yeah, there's also yeah, it's 0:14:42.240 --> 0:14:44.560 it's not that there's not going to be good things 0:14:44.600 --> 0:14:46.840 done with the Internet, or that it can't be made better, 0:14:46.880 --> 0:14:49.040 but it's never going to be what it was because 0:14:49.880 --> 0:14:55.120 we simply know too much. Um, let's see what are 0:14:55.240 --> 0:14:59.800 some inspiring recent examples of cooperation increasing survival odds to 0:15:00.000 --> 0:15:02.440 know the type that thinks they just need AMMO to survive. 0:15:04.440 --> 0:15:07.400 Another good touchstone with for this would be the movie 0:15:07.440 --> 0:15:15.320 trimmers Um which which shows unfortunately actually he's survival player 0:15:15.880 --> 0:15:20.880 nobody lives with that community. Unfortunately, unfortunately, I think Rabbit 0:15:20.920 --> 0:15:24.680 actually is correct here. More broadly, this person is like 0:15:25.240 --> 0:15:28.600 and coned sleep paraphrasing Kurparkian, right, but like we have 0:15:28.800 --> 0:15:32.080 all just lived through a pandemic, and they are stilling 0:15:32.080 --> 0:15:33.920 through a pandemic. I guess which has changed the world 0:15:34.040 --> 0:15:37.960 killed hundreds of thousands, millions of people, and like, the 0:15:38.120 --> 0:15:40.040 reason a lot of people got through that, A lot 0:15:40.040 --> 0:15:42.800 of people who didn't weren't able to work or were 0:15:42.840 --> 0:15:45.120 immuno compromised. You can't go out as much is because 0:15:45.160 --> 0:15:48.840 other people helped them, Like no one shot COVID and 0:15:49.040 --> 0:15:51.920 no one fed themselves in the lockdown because they had 0:15:52.440 --> 0:15:54.760 tons of five or five six stocked away, like a 0:15:54.840 --> 0:15:57.400 ton of mutual aid happened. A lot of terrible ship 0:15:57.440 --> 0:16:00.880 happened as well, But that's a bigger example. I think, mm, yeah, 0:16:01.960 --> 0:16:05.360 what genres of music have each of you been listening 0:16:05.440 --> 0:16:10.200 to lately? M I'm a big classical head. I don't 0:16:10.200 --> 0:16:14.920 care if it's like I also listened to a lot 0:16:14.960 --> 0:16:17.640 of classical the best. When you're driving, everything becomes like 0:16:17.760 --> 0:16:21.680 cinematic and it's calming, and sometimes words distract me, so 0:16:22.520 --> 0:16:26.000 my go too is classical to what I would consider 0:16:26.080 --> 0:16:32.520 classical music, which is second and third wave SCAA basically 0:16:32.560 --> 0:16:37.200 the only classical music in my opinion. I listened to 0:16:37.760 --> 0:16:40.040 the Clash Suade and the manicx Ree Preacher is more 0:16:40.120 --> 0:16:45.240 or less exclusively. Yeah, they're the only bands that matter. Yeah, 0:16:45.400 --> 0:16:47.720 I think if it's not classical, I'm trying to like 0:16:48.760 --> 0:16:51.600 be I don't know, I'm like dancing around. So it's 0:16:51.600 --> 0:16:53.800 either like it's like two extremes for me, either classical 0:16:53.840 --> 0:16:56.800 and I'm like chill, going to sleep, or I'm getting 0:16:56.840 --> 0:16:59.880 ready and I want to feel something. M what if 0:16:59.920 --> 0:17:07.080 I man, I have the most absolutely dogship music, but 0:17:07.400 --> 0:17:08.840 the music that I listened to it, I think it's 0:17:08.920 --> 0:17:12.520 legitimately good. That's not like hower metal or like weird 0:17:12.600 --> 0:17:17.679 ship is I've I've been going back to like my 0:17:17.880 --> 0:17:21.560 Youth and my Youth is a combination of like surf rock. 0:17:23.920 --> 0:17:31.200 I was like, this is a safe space like what okay, 0:17:31.280 --> 0:17:36.040 like Pat Pat Benatar sort of like that that there's 0:17:36.040 --> 0:17:38.920 a sort of era of like I don't know what 0:17:38.960 --> 0:17:43.120 you call it, like lesbian glam rock. I don't know yourself. 0:17:43.160 --> 0:17:47.280 This is the safe space you keep saying that I 0:17:47.280 --> 0:17:52.600 don't think we ever agreed to this. I usually listened 0:17:52.600 --> 0:17:54.679 to a lot of music, well, writing and researching. I 0:17:54.720 --> 0:17:58.080 just finished up to two pretty big writing projects. I've 0:17:58.080 --> 0:18:01.040 been listening to a lot of music. Um, most of 0:18:01.080 --> 0:18:06.919 it's like ambient electronica. Uh, some classicals thrown in there 0:18:06.960 --> 0:18:09.480 if I need to get a little bit more like energy. 0:18:09.680 --> 0:18:14.920 But listening to some Trent Resiner kind of ambient stuff um, 0:18:14.960 --> 0:18:18.639 and like a lot of I also listened to a 0:18:18.640 --> 0:18:25.720 lot of remixes of the Mario Galaxy soundtrack. Okay, I 0:18:25.840 --> 0:18:28.720 like that. Wait, okay, okay, okay, all right, I need 0:18:28.760 --> 0:18:37.439 to I need I need to plug a truly awful song. No, no, no, no, 0:18:37.600 --> 0:18:40.480 we got it. Okay, look Donkey Kong has to slam 0:18:40.560 --> 0:18:42.600 this way. It has to be this way, X space 0:18:42.680 --> 0:18:45.560 Jam x d k Rap. I need, I need to 0:18:45.600 --> 0:18:49.639 know that this exists, is there's there's it is incredible. 0:18:49.720 --> 0:18:52.600 It is another worldly experience. That's also a version of it. 0:18:52.680 --> 0:18:58.639 That's the k but also what do we mean angel? Okay, 0:18:58.680 --> 0:19:01.840 I think this said. Do you listen to Max Richter? 0:19:02.200 --> 0:19:04.119 I think he would like Max Richter. He's like he 0:19:04.160 --> 0:19:06.399 had a lot of soundtracks for shows. So stuff is 0:19:06.480 --> 0:19:08.880 kind of like melancholic and piano ee, but I think 0:19:09.920 --> 0:19:13.760 you might like it. I will look him up. Good name, Yeah, 0:19:14.480 --> 0:19:19.800 it's spelled Richer. Yeah, okay, great. Yeah. You should also 0:19:19.880 --> 0:19:22.439 listen to the Mighty Mighty Boss Towns, who did a 0:19:22.480 --> 0:19:33.840 wonderful album. No No, don't don't speak out the album 0:19:34.600 --> 0:19:39.480 That George Floyd song is incredibly appropriate, deeply appropriate. Yet, 0:19:39.760 --> 0:19:43.480 speaking of listening to things, speaking speaking of things that 0:19:43.480 --> 0:19:48.120 are problems, what is what is the most troubling thing 0:19:48.240 --> 0:19:51.800 that isn't being reported on or isn't taken seriously by 0:19:51.800 --> 0:19:54.440 the wider public. The fact that none of you said 0:19:54.480 --> 0:19:57.040 you listened to any rap music or any type of 0:19:57.119 --> 0:20:02.520 music that wasn't just I thought Tupac was a give okay, okay, 0:20:03.480 --> 0:20:07.840 trachical questions I listened to. I listened to a little 0:20:07.840 --> 0:20:10.440 bit of Biggie every now and again, and I got 0:20:10.480 --> 0:20:13.600 my most deaf always loaded up, especially around the New Year. 0:20:13.640 --> 0:20:18.120 I love listening to Life and Marvelous Times, both sides 0:20:18.160 --> 0:20:22.040 as a hell of an album. I've always been more Biggie. 0:20:22.520 --> 0:20:25.440 There's a guy Code and Christian Parish takes a gun. 0:20:25.520 --> 0:20:28.800 He rapped by Superman. He's like from the coronation. I 0:20:28.800 --> 0:20:31.200 think his stuff is cool. The most troubling thing that 0:20:31.280 --> 0:20:33.600 isn't that isn't being reported on are taken seriously enough 0:20:33.640 --> 0:20:38.600 by the wide republic besides our musical tastes. Well, I'm 0:20:38.640 --> 0:20:41.359 going to be and always say like Atal East your 0:20:41.400 --> 0:20:44.600 news and Palestine and like air and balance reporting and 0:20:44.880 --> 0:20:49.320 even like Syria and uh Yemen and all of that stuff. 0:20:49.359 --> 0:20:53.320 I think none of that gets enough attention. Absolutely, I'm 0:20:53.359 --> 0:20:58.680 gonna say, fucking scams um, Like just on a daily basis, 0:20:58.720 --> 0:21:02.040 I feel like my phone gets uh, six to eight 0:21:02.160 --> 0:21:06.200 scam calls scam calls at least, and like it's uh 0:21:06.440 --> 0:21:09.560 and someone making a note of this earlier because like 0:21:09.600 --> 0:21:12.760 a bunch of scam stories have been people have been 0:21:12.840 --> 0:21:15.199 sharing them this year. But like there's all sorts of 0:21:15.240 --> 0:21:18.480 fucked up things like if a relative gets arrested, as 0:21:18.480 --> 0:21:22.960 soon as the police post um the like the they're 0:21:23.040 --> 0:21:25.720 the fact that like like publicly posted they've been arrested, 0:21:25.720 --> 0:21:28.840 Like the family if they have numbers that scammers can find, 0:21:28.880 --> 0:21:32.119 will start getting auto dialed by like accounts claiming to 0:21:32.200 --> 0:21:34.400 be the police saying that like you need to put 0:21:34.440 --> 0:21:37.320 money in their account now where they're going into general population. 0:21:37.680 --> 0:21:39.840 And it's all these are all like low hanging fruit 0:21:39.960 --> 0:21:43.680 things like they're they're they're not they're targeting people who 0:21:44.560 --> 0:21:49.200 are not very savvy UM often people who have some 0:21:49.280 --> 0:21:53.440 sort of like mental disability. Right, So folks who are 0:21:53.520 --> 0:21:56.320 kind of living a marginal existence in a lot of 0:21:56.320 --> 0:22:00.359 ways as it is, UM and they are like it 0:22:00.480 --> 0:22:04.040 it's making it incredibly difficult for and and folks who 0:22:04.040 --> 0:22:07.199 have like are cognitively impaired for whatever reason, including the 0:22:07.200 --> 0:22:10.200 fact that they're they're elderly. There's just like this. It's 0:22:10.240 --> 0:22:13.480 never been like this before, the sheer density of scams 0:22:13.480 --> 0:22:16.879 that people have to wade through. And again, most of you, 0:22:17.240 --> 0:22:19.600 we've all kind of noticed it getting more common, but 0:22:19.640 --> 0:22:22.400 you may not have noticed how kind of brutal it's 0:22:22.440 --> 0:22:25.840 gotten because you're not the target demographic for this stuff, right. 0:22:25.840 --> 0:22:27.879 That's why they all have like filters in them to 0:22:27.920 --> 0:22:30.480 try and weed out the people who are savvy enough 0:22:30.520 --> 0:22:33.040 to know that they're being scammed. But it's there's a 0:22:33.119 --> 0:22:35.719 number of things. This is the result of decisions that 0:22:35.800 --> 0:22:41.119 the the FTC made um like like in order to 0:22:41.160 --> 0:22:43.600 like make it a lot easier for people to use 0:22:43.600 --> 0:22:46.280 ship like auto dialers and to carry out like phone 0:22:46.280 --> 0:22:49.080 based scams. But it's it's just been punted on by 0:22:49.119 --> 0:22:52.000 every presidential administration in our lifetime. Is the Internet has 0:22:52.000 --> 0:22:54.879 made it easier to automate this stuff, and the the 0:22:54.960 --> 0:22:58.240 explosion of machine learning tools that are widely available, these 0:22:58.320 --> 0:23:01.320 kind of AI s that people are joking about right now, 0:23:01.359 --> 0:23:05.040 like it's all going to create the capacity to more 0:23:05.160 --> 0:23:09.440 effectively automate scams. I had one that could have gotten 0:23:09.440 --> 0:23:11.920 me the other day where I got a call from 0:23:11.960 --> 0:23:15.280 my bank that was listed as from my bank is 0:23:15.280 --> 0:23:18.320 and like on it like it was my bank's phone number, 0:23:18.359 --> 0:23:20.840 like it was. It came up as them on the 0:23:21.280 --> 0:23:23.680 and they were like, hey, you know someone has there's 0:23:23.680 --> 0:23:25.800 some some charges. Can we run them by you? We 0:23:25.800 --> 0:23:27.600 want to make sure And they were like charge things 0:23:27.640 --> 0:23:29.639 I had not bought. They were like wire transfers and 0:23:29.640 --> 0:23:31.520 ship and they're like, oh, it looks like you know, 0:23:31.600 --> 0:23:34.920 somebody's gotten access to your account. And the call dropped 0:23:35.000 --> 0:23:37.119 before I could finish it, so I called them back, 0:23:37.240 --> 0:23:39.280 and when I called my bank back, they were like, oh, yeah, 0:23:39.320 --> 0:23:41.639 that was someone spoofing our number. They were trying to 0:23:41.680 --> 0:23:45.520 get personal information out of you. Um, this ship is 0:23:45.600 --> 0:23:48.800 so fucking endemic, and no one is doing a goddamn 0:23:48.840 --> 0:23:52.600 thing about it. There's like one anemic attempt in Congress 0:23:52.600 --> 0:23:56.359 to slightly address it, primarily through like education, but it 0:23:56.480 --> 0:24:00.679 is a massive problem. It's part of what's breaking society, 0:24:00.760 --> 0:24:05.080 the fact that like everyone is constantly flooded by this 0:24:05.160 --> 0:24:10.119 low level cloud of people trying to destroy their financial lives. Um, 0:24:10.160 --> 0:24:13.680 It's it's real bad. Do you know what else is 0:24:13.680 --> 0:24:16.600 trying to destroy your financial lives? Of the products and 0:24:16.680 --> 0:24:30.840 services that support this podcast, Garrison and Robert's books, and 0:24:31.000 --> 0:24:33.879 we are back for one final time for this episode. 0:24:34.480 --> 0:24:36.280 This is This is actually a question that I feel 0:24:36.320 --> 0:24:39.560