1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 1: Okay, let's try this again. The Chiefs will try once 2 00:00:03,640 --> 00:00:06,680 Speaker 1: again to win the AFC West for an eighth consecutive 3 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 1: time as the Bengals come calling Sunday afternoon. Defending the Kingdom, 4 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 1: We'll try this again, but on this episode we'll center 5 00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:19,080 Speaker 1: on where football fans don't spend enough time in giving 6 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 1: respect to offensive linemen. There's actually an offensive line university, 7 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:26,599 Speaker 1: and we'll pay tribute to one of the greatest offensive 8 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:29,479 Speaker 1: linemen to play in Pro football. And he played for 9 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 1: the Kansas City Chiefs and had the biggest part of 10 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 1: one of the most important plays, and he's not given 11 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 1: enough credit for it. This Defending the Kingdom liked him 12 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 1: All is brought to you by Ticketmaster ninth playing the 13 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:44,199 Speaker 1: Drive for the Chiefs. They trailed twenty to seven, two 14 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:46,320 Speaker 1: forty eight to go in the game, third down and 15 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 1: goal to go at the seven form homes looking left. 16 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:51,280 Speaker 1: Here comes pressure. He is hit from behind. 17 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:51,960 Speaker 2: Now he escapes? 18 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 1: Does it light God in thes a touchdown chanzas City 19 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:02,280 Speaker 1: Tough touch by Justin Watson and Hi everyone, our Happy 20 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:05,200 Speaker 1: New Year edition of Defending the Kingdom. Michelters with you 21 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 1: Voice of the Chiefs along with Senior team reporter Matt McMullen, 22 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:14,560 Speaker 1: and this episode is called O Line University Catalyst for Victory, 23 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:17,400 Speaker 1: and we're going to talk about the offensive line. It 24 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:23,319 Speaker 1: has never required more intricacy in study and knowledge and 25 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:27,400 Speaker 1: toughness than ever before. And these offensive linemen are approaching it, 26 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 1: especially our guys on a twelve month basis. 27 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:32,959 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's something that we don't really talk about because 28 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:35,759 Speaker 2: when you watch football, like the quarterbacks and the skill 29 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:38,040 Speaker 2: position guys, they get all of the credit because they're 30 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 2: the ones that are scoring and making the highlight plays. 31 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 2: But the reality is, and we talk about this all 32 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:46,679 Speaker 2: the time, that football, even in twenty twenty three, is 33 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:49,640 Speaker 2: still one the same way it was one in the 34 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 2: sixties and in the forties. It's one in the trenches. 35 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 2: That's the reality. It looks different, but it's real that 36 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 2: you win football games with your offensive line and your 37 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 2: defensive line. And the Chiefs been blessed to have one 38 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 2: of the best offensive lines in the NFL over the 39 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 2: last several seasons that help us make this entire offensive 40 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:09,399 Speaker 2: engine go. And we'll need him here against the Bengals. 41 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 1: I would love to put it on every billboard around 42 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:14,959 Speaker 1: the Chiefs Kingdom. And that is a question I always ask. 43 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:17,960 Speaker 1: I've asked you before, I'll ask it again. Find me 44 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:20,519 Speaker 1: a really good football team with a bad offensive line, 45 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 1: and when you do, it will be the first one. 46 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 2: And this week the. 47 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 1: Chiefs face a challenge as the Chiefs offensive line will 48 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:29,119 Speaker 1: take on the Cincinnati Bengals, a team that has led 49 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:32,520 Speaker 1: by Trey Hendrison, probably the most underrated edge player in 50 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 1: the entire National Football League. But before we get into that, 51 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 1: and we're also going to pay tribute to Ed Buddy. 52 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 1: We lost Ed Buddy on December the ninth. His memorial 53 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:46,079 Speaker 1: service was this week. Ed Buddy. We talk about underrated players, 54 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:48,639 Speaker 1: we're going to talk about sixty five Toss Power Trapp. 55 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 2: But this is a guy that played. 56 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:53,080 Speaker 1: All fourteen years with the Chiefs, and for all intents 57 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 1: and purposes, Matt Ed Buddy should be in the Pro 58 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 1: Football Hall of Fame. 59 00:02:57,120 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 2: He really should. You look back with those early teams, 60 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 2: there are two players that are not in the Pro 61 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:04,080 Speaker 2: Football Hall of Fame that should. It's Otis Taylor and 62 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:06,680 Speaker 2: it's Ed Buddy. I don't know why they're not. And 63 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:10,519 Speaker 2: Ed Buddy. Whenever you read any Eulogi's on his life 64 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:14,240 Speaker 2: or talk to anyone about him. Somehow, what always comes 65 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 2: out is just a great football player. It's a great 66 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 2: football player, an amazing person off the field as well, 67 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:22,920 Speaker 2: but just a guy that showed up to work with 68 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 2: his lunch pale, went out there and dominated the competition. 69 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 2: Just an incredible football player, and I'm totally with you. 70 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 2: Should be in the Pro Football Hall of Fame. 71 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 1: He was ahead of his time, a blend of toughness 72 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 1: and power and speed. Hank Stram, of course was ahead 73 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 1: of his time with his offensive tendencies, but he couldn't 74 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 1: have done it without Ed Buddy. We'll get into that 75 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 1: a little bit later in the episode, but before we 76 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 1: do that, let's jump on the space station that is 77 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 1: run by Matt Stad himself, Matt McMullen, as we go 78 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 1: around the world. 79 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 2: Well, I've got five today for Tommy Townsend. What a 80 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 2: throw by Tommy Townsend. 81 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 1: You know, the twenty five yard punt. I love Tommy, 82 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 1: but I'm trying to get that pass. Not respecting the 83 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 1: fake punt pass enough. That was pretty cool. 84 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 2: It's one of those things. This is the reality of it, 85 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 2: and we're guilty of it as well. Like when the 86 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 2: Chiefs lose, we don't go back and look at little 87 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 2: things like that. That ended up being inconsequential because the 88 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 2: Chiefs didn't score on that drive. There was a missed 89 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 2: field goal at the end of the half. But a 90 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:20,159 Speaker 2: great throw. I mean you're already back like twenty yards 91 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:22,719 Speaker 2: or whatever and you have to throw it by the sticks. 92 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 2: I mean, really impressive throw by Tommy. So five for 93 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 2: you here today. Shout out to Gary from Knoxville, Tennessee 94 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 2: Rocky top as. 95 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:32,920 Speaker 1: I say, that's right in your mom's wheelhouse. Sure living 96 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:33,280 Speaker 1: that one. 97 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 2: Go Valls. Russ is in Fresno, California, living with the 98 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 2: family of Raiders, which is difficult on this December twenty sixth. 99 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:44,240 Speaker 2: Stay strong, Russ. We also need to get Russ out 100 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:45,840 Speaker 2: to a game in Kansas City. Big Chiefs fan, but 101 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 2: never been to Kansas City, never been to watch a 102 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 2: game here, So we need to get Russ to Kansas City. 103 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 2: Stay strong, You gotta stay strong. Russ. 104 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 1: Stays strong. 105 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 2: Russ. We heard from Michael and Deltona, Florida. Glenn is 106 00:04:56,800 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 2: in Goodland, Kansas. 107 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, home of the They're women's mask ball team is 108 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 1: on some crazy streak. They've won like sixty or seventy 109 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 1: straight games. That's that's just a great tradition out there 110 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:11,720 Speaker 1: for both men's and women's sports. They've had, they've had 111 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:14,839 Speaker 1: different players. Dave Jones played for the Cleveland Browns. He 112 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 1: was a ky State star and he was from actually 113 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:21,120 Speaker 1: Canna Rado. You go buy that on your ski trips. 114 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 1: But yeah, Goodland, Kansas has had some awesome athletes down 115 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:27,719 Speaker 1: through the years. But check out the Goodland Cowgirl girls 116 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 1: basketball team. 117 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:32,160 Speaker 2: Look out all right impressive. Then lastly, Eric is checking 118 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 2: in from New Orleans, although he was here in Kansas 119 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 2: City for Christmas, but Eric lives in New Orleans. I'll 120 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 2: be in New Orleans in late March, going to go 121 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 2: with Ellie and my sister and her boyfriend to New Orleans. 122 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 2: I've only been once before. I was there for the 123 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:47,479 Speaker 2: preseason game earlier this year, but we're only there for 124 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 2: like twenty four hours, so you don't get to experience it. 125 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:52,360 Speaker 2: I'll be there for like a long weekend, so yeah, 126 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 2: it should be pretty cool. 127 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 1: An amazing city, amazing city, New Orleans. So he's really 128 00:05:56,040 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 1: none like it in such a blend of cultures. Almost 129 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 1: feel like you're in a foreign city when you're there. 130 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 1: But it's got a lot of charm and a lot 131 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:06,919 Speaker 1: of history. All right, this edition, I got one to 132 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:11,680 Speaker 1: add too, because this is a defending the Kingdom, Kingdom 133 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 1: defender every episode type couple, and it's Jim and Lisa Statton. 134 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:17,600 Speaker 1: I think it's how you say it, Jim and Lisa 135 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 1: Statton from Ake and South Carolina. Okay, and hang on 136 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:24,279 Speaker 1: every word of defending the Kingdom, and they're waving the 137 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 1: Kingdom flag down there in kind of Carolina Panther Country. Okay, 138 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:32,360 Speaker 1: So anyway, shout out to Jim and Lisa Statton. Yes, Okay, 139 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:38,039 Speaker 1: let's get into offensive line University. These offensive line in 140 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:41,360 Speaker 1: the Chiefs head are really intriguing guys, if you're around 141 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 1: Creed Humphrey for any amount of time, or Tray Smith 142 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:47,599 Speaker 1: or Joe Toney. And we're getting to know Yanye Morris 143 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 1: excited about him although the Raiders were throwing the kitchen 144 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:53,679 Speaker 1: sink at him in the last game. And then Juwan 145 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:55,920 Speaker 1: Taylor coming in as an unrestricted free agent, and then 146 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 1: the rest of the offensive line room. Right, we've seen 147 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:01,599 Speaker 1: big men touchdown from Nick Allaghretty Mike Kelliendo continues to 148 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 1: emerge on the offensive line Lucas Niang in that group 149 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 1: among others. But there's something called O L Masterminds that 150 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 1: I'm really intrigued with you. And I have Austin Woodard 151 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 1: as a friend right in Japlin, Missouri, and Austin's an 152 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 1: offensive line guru. There's a dude named Duke Minieweather and 153 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 1: he is like the Yoda of offensive line teaching, and 154 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 1: he has a university or a seminar that he has 155 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 1: in Texas in the off season. And the Chiefs offensive lineman, 156 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 1: particularly Tray Smith and Creed Humphrey and one year Morris attended. 157 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 1: This year swear by it and it was an answer. 158 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 1: Remember von Miller put together like pass rush University, and 159 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 1: he has this consortium and like we're going to destroy 160 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 1: all the pass rushers, will rule the earth. Well, the 161 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 1: offensive linemen are going, well, wait a minute, maybe we'll 162 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 1: do that. But it's never been tougher to play on 163 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 1: the offensive line in this league because the athletes you're 164 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:57,560 Speaker 1: playing against. Look what the Chiefs had to face against 165 00:07:57,640 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 1: Max Crosby and Kotz was awesome, Malcolm Codes. But the 166 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 1: intricacies of playing the position have become more profound, and 167 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 1: so it's a twelve month venture for the Chiefs. Offensive line. 168 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 2: Pass rushers are so good nowadays. I mean they're just 169 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 2: these elite hybrid athletes that are strong and powerful but 170 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 2: also fast, and they have a variety of moves they 171 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 2: can use on you that I'm with you that playing 172 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 2: offensive line is so hard nowadays. I think it's the 173 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:31,560 Speaker 2: hardest that it's ever been in professional football. And I 174 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:33,840 Speaker 2: think it is really cool what Douke many Weather does 175 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:37,320 Speaker 2: with ol masterminds. You're right about the pass rushing summit 176 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 2: that Von Miller has. There's also tight end the university. 177 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:42,720 Speaker 2: So this is kind of becoming a thing where position 178 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 2: groups get together in the offseason and exchange ideas, work 179 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 2: on things like technique, why are you so good? Why 180 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 2: am I so good? All that kind of stuff. But again, 181 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:53,439 Speaker 2: we kind of focus on the skill positions, and edge 182 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 2: rushers are basically skill position players. I mean, everyone knows 183 00:08:56,679 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 2: their names, right, but people don't normally know the best 184 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:03,079 Speaker 2: offense of linemen in the NFL, especially the best interior 185 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 2: offensive lineman in the league, unless you're really committed to 186 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 2: learning about it. And we have some of the very 187 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 2: best year in Kansas City between Creed Humphrey Joe Toney 188 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 2: and Trey Smith, And a little background on Obell Masterminds. 189 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 2: It began back in twenty eighteen. Duke Minnyweather and Lane Johnson, 190 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:21,440 Speaker 2: all pro with the Eagles, co founded it and it 191 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 2: really is a year round thing that's devoted to training, developing, 192 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:29,320 Speaker 2: and scouting the nation's best offensive lineman. And the summit 193 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 2: that they have in the off season is kind of 194 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 2: like the tent pole around it. The guys all get 195 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:38,239 Speaker 2: together in the off season and talk about things like preparation, 196 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:42,400 Speaker 2: how to study, film, recovery, execution, all of that stuff. 197 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:45,439 Speaker 2: And what was so cool last year talking about Creed 198 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:49,120 Speaker 2: and Trey they weren't just people that went to it 199 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:53,200 Speaker 2: and experienced it, they actually led sessions. So Creed Humphrey, 200 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 2: as a second year player, was leading sessions for college 201 00:09:57,760 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 2: offensive lineman current pro offensive lynemen who are older than 202 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:04,720 Speaker 2: he is. He was teaching things about his preparation, his technique, 203 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:07,320 Speaker 2: what makes him such a good player to others because 204 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:09,960 Speaker 2: they were interested in learning from Creed Humphrey. And same 205 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 2: deal with Trey Smith. Trey led a seminar, So really 206 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:16,680 Speaker 2: really cool. Makes us proud of our guys that they're 207 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:19,840 Speaker 2: out there teaching others that others are interested in learning 208 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 2: from them. And once again, just two of the best 209 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 2: offensive linemen in the NFL. And when they're called upon 210 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 2: at something like ol Masterminds, that shows that their peers 211 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 2: believe they are the best of the best. 212 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 1: If you've been around high school or collegiate wrestling at all, 213 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 1: you know how that's an underappreciated sport meaning move, counter move, 214 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 1: counter counter move, footwork. The slightest little mistake can mean 215 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 1: a pin with offensive line down the National Football League. 216 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 1: And it's why you and I love to watch it 217 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:51,480 Speaker 1: at training camp and like to watch it with Austin 218 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 1: because he sees it like in three dimensions. But if 219 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 1: you're around Trey or Creed or Joe, they will say 220 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:01,600 Speaker 1: a foot placement just off a half inch or a 221 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 1: quarter inch can be a real problem. Or how do 222 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:08,960 Speaker 1: I strike a blow instead of just receiving blows? And 223 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 1: the best offensive linemen are able to do that hand 224 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:14,360 Speaker 1: placement without getting holds. Let's be honest. The Chiefs have 225 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 1: the most holding calls this year in the National Football 226 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 1: League with twenty. All right, that's there, that's a number. 227 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 1: But if the Chiefs are going to win this week 228 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:24,560 Speaker 1: that has to be minimized or eradicated. Same with the 229 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 1: final game against the Chargers or into the playoffs. But 230 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 1: it can be just a half inch. I mean, Creed 231 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 1: was called this year where you could say eh, and 232 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 1: there was another one where he was called and I 233 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 1: said it might have been the Buffalo game and he goes, yeah, 234 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:39,560 Speaker 1: I got outside about a half or inch. I go 235 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 1: a half inch, he goes yeah, And that was a 236 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:43,640 Speaker 1: difference in a holding call that's ten yards and could 237 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 1: be a drive killer. 238 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's tough. I mean, it truly is. It comes 239 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 2: down to the slummest of margins. And when we talk 240 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:52,600 Speaker 2: about that, we're usually talking about like a drop pass 241 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:57,160 Speaker 2: or I don't know, a mistackle, things like that, but 242 00:11:57,200 --> 00:11:59,600 Speaker 2: it really does boil down to the smallest things like 243 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 2: hand placement. And speaking of Austin Woodard, one thing in 244 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 2: training camp that he was teaching me is Creed's hand 245 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 2: placement and why Creed's hand placement is one of the 246 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 2: things that makes him one of the best sinners in 247 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:13,040 Speaker 2: the NFL. And I'm not going to talk about it 248 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 2: here because it could give it away, but it's its 249 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 2: little teeny thing that makes a big difference that you 250 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:20,680 Speaker 2: wouldn't even think about. But Austin is explaining why it 251 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:23,199 Speaker 2: matters and why it makes Creed just a little bit 252 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 2: better than the competition. And those are the smallest things 253 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:28,720 Speaker 2: that you need to succeed in the NFL. Because everyone's 254 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 2: good in the NFL. Everyone is the best athlete from 255 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:36,080 Speaker 2: their hometown, they were a superstar in college. When everyone's good, 256 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 2: you have to find the little, teeny things that make 257 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 2: you just a little bit better. That's what makes great 258 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 2: players in the NFL. And again, we're lucky to have 259 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:47,600 Speaker 2: guys like Creed, Joe and Trey Juwan Juan Ye an 260 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 2: emerging player who are some of the best. 261 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 1: I encourage you that won Ye though went to OL masterminds. 262 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:57,360 Speaker 1: We're calling it OL University, and it's willing to learn 263 00:12:57,480 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 1: because he has guys now that he trusts in Creed 264 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 1: and Try who are his brig brothers. 265 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 2: Absolutely, I think that goes hand in hand with what 266 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:06,200 Speaker 2: I was saying that it's one difficult thing in the 267 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 2: NFL that I've seen is when players are the absolute 268 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 2: best where they come from, they've really never been challenged 269 00:13:13,280 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 2: because they've always been athletically better than everyone else. How 270 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:18,200 Speaker 2: do you respond to all of a sudden everyone else 271 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:20,400 Speaker 2: being really good and you need to be coached up 272 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 2: in order to be better than they are. And that's 273 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:24,960 Speaker 2: why some players don't make it in the NFL that 274 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 2: were really good in college because they're not susceptible to that. 275 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:31,280 Speaker 2: They can't take the coaching and get better because of it. Well, 276 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:34,679 Speaker 2: Wannier strikes me as a guy who is so interested 277 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 2: in learning, and when we had him on the podcast 278 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 2: last week, we talked off camera for a while as well, 279 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 2: and he is so excited to learn. And there's going 280 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:45,199 Speaker 2: to be bumps along the way. I mean, you face 281 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:46,560 Speaker 2: Max Crosby as. 282 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:49,320 Speaker 1: A rookie in a wide nine. You can't see him. 283 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 1: He's like he's out there somewhere, but I can't see him, 284 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 1: and he's coming like an asteroid into my ear hole. 285 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 2: I mean, super tough assignment, right, but the best ones 286 00:13:57,960 --> 00:14:00,320 Speaker 2: go Okay, that happened. How do I learn from that? 287 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:02,080 Speaker 2: How do I get better because of that? How do 288 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 2: I make sure next time I face Max Crosby, I 289 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:07,439 Speaker 2: don't let that happen. And the great ones don't let 290 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:10,520 Speaker 2: mistakes snowball. And that's the challenge for wan Ye and 291 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 2: just based on what we've learned about him. I feel 292 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 2: really good about him learning from that experience and not 293 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 2: dwelling on it. 294 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 1: Feel very good too about a guy like Creed Humphrey. 295 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 1: We had a chance to get his reaction to OL 296 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 1: Masterminds and what he's facing this week. 297 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 2: All right, we're joined now by Chief Center Creed Humphrey. 298 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 2: And Creed we've been talking about OL Masterminds on our 299 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 2: podcast today and something you're obviously very familiar with. How 300 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 2: did you first find out about OL Masterminds and why'd 301 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 2: you want to go? 302 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, So the first time I went was in college 303 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:45,400 Speaker 3: when I was at ou Duke Mannyweather he's a big 304 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 3: reason why it happens and it's put on and you 305 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 3: know he's he has a good relationship with coach b 306 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:53,240 Speaker 3: at Ou and he you know, invited me down and 307 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 3: then since then I've gone every year. But it's a 308 00:14:56,360 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 3: it's a good thing. I mean, getting you know, some 309 00:14:58,080 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 3: of the top guys in the league in one room 310 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:02,080 Speaker 3: just able to you know, talk ball, watch a film, 311 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:04,520 Speaker 3: you know, talk about different techniques, things like that. It's 312 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:07,240 Speaker 3: a I found it very helpful for you know, most 313 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 3: guys who go just to you know, learn all these 314 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 3: different things to help improve their game. 315 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 2: Just after your second season in the NFL, I mean 316 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 2: you were presenting like people were curious about what you 317 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:19,800 Speaker 2: had to say. What's it mean to you that you 318 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 2: go to this kind of event and your peers look 319 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 2: at you as someone that can teach them something they 320 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:24,880 Speaker 2: can learn. 321 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:28,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's exciting for sure. And uh, you know, there's 322 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 3: a ton of guys that go, you know that are 323 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 3: that are you know, in the Hall of Fame now, 324 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 3: that are retired, that played for you know, a decade, 325 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 3: and it's always really cool to hear from those guys 326 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 3: and just you know, it's a it's a blessing for 327 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 3: me just to be able to you know, go over 328 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:42,160 Speaker 3: there and people want to pick my brain some too, 329 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 3: So it's a it's a really cool event. 330 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:46,560 Speaker 2: And to be there with Trey I think Wanye went 331 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 2: there last year. When you're there with teammates and you 332 00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 2: can share it with them, what's that experience like? 333 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 3: It's good and you know, and Trey's gotten to present 334 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 3: too while we go there, and uh, you know, it's 335 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:58,280 Speaker 3: just really good having those guys around, and uh, you know, 336 00:15:58,320 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 3: I think it's you know, helped all three of us 337 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 3: for sure. So it's it's something that's you know, really 338 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 3: fun to go to and it's again, you know, it's 339 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 3: just you know, putting more tools into your tool belt 340 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 3: before the season starts, which is always helpful. 341 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:10,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, Minch and I have talked about this where there's 342 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 2: like tight End University, there's like the pass Rush Summit, 343 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 2: but there's so much that goes into playing offensive line. 344 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:18,200 Speaker 2: How beneficial is it to just pick the brain of 345 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 2: a guy on another team he might not talk to otherwise, 346 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:22,640 Speaker 2: just to learn about what makes him tick. 347 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's huge, and you know, getting to talk to 348 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 3: you know, other centers that have you know, been the 349 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 3: other interior guys, you know like Ryan Jensen, someone who 350 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:33,000 Speaker 3: goes a lot, and it's been really cool to hear 351 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 3: from him. You know, he's one of the best to 352 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 3: do it right now too, so it's been really cool 353 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 3: to hear from him. You got guys like you know, 354 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 3: Steve Hutchinson who's in the Hall of Fame now that 355 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:42,200 Speaker 3: he's he goes and presents and it's really fun to 356 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 3: pick his brain too, And it's always really fun, you know, 357 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 3: just to hear what they say, and you know, a 358 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 3: lot of It always goes back to mentality though, which 359 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 3: is you know, such a huge crucial part of you know, 360 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:53,960 Speaker 3: offensive line players just playing with the right mentality, and 361 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 3: it's always really cool to hear from those guys and 362 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 3: kind of how they got into the mode for you 363 00:16:57,680 --> 00:16:58,480 Speaker 3: know games. 364 00:16:58,160 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 2: And things like that. Yeah, well, I'm glad to make mentality. 365 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:02,640 Speaker 2: That's my final question for you. Mention and I on 366 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:04,879 Speaker 2: the podcast have talked about how a victory over the 367 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 2: Bengals begins with you guys and the mentality you guys 368 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:10,040 Speaker 2: have setting a tone up front. How excited are you 369 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:12,320 Speaker 2: for that challenge to set that tone up front from 370 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 2: the get go on Sunday. 371 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:15,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, really excited. You know, they have a really good 372 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:18,359 Speaker 3: front seven and they present challenges. Their defensive coordinator is 373 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:20,360 Speaker 3: a great job, you know, getting them the right spots too, 374 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 3: so it's a unique challenge playing against them always and 375 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:25,680 Speaker 3: it's always really fun to play against some too because 376 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:27,480 Speaker 3: they have some really good players in the front seven. 377 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 3: So we're excited about it. We're ready to you know, 378 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 3: attack the week and you know, get back on the 379 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 3: get back into the winning ways, and you know, we 380 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 3: know we're gonna play a big part in that, so 381 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:37,560 Speaker 3: we're excited about. 382 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:40,199 Speaker 2: Well, Creed, appreciate your time as always, go get him 383 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:42,600 Speaker 2: on Sunday. Thank you, Creed. 384 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 1: Humphrey. We talk about the intricacies of playing offensive line. 385 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:48,800 Speaker 1: It's it's no coincidence he was an awesome wrestler. Yeah, 386 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:50,640 Speaker 1: I mean, this is a state champion and you look 387 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:52,680 Speaker 1: at a lot of alignment in the National Football League. 388 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 1: When we look at him during the draft. How many 389 00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:57,600 Speaker 1: times do we see that they were outstanding either high 390 00:17:57,640 --> 00:17:58,879 Speaker 1: school or college wrestlers. 391 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:01,920 Speaker 2: It's funny how that's like a commonality, but it's real 392 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:06,159 Speaker 2: because you're basically wrestling standing up, like with all the 393 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:08,720 Speaker 2: technique and everything that you have to use. It kind 394 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 2: of is an indicator, like when you look at guys 395 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:13,080 Speaker 2: that played other sports like Patrick Mahomes. We always talked 396 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:15,080 Speaker 2: about how he was a baseball player, right, and that 397 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:18,880 Speaker 2: influences some of his throws well. For offensive lineman, I think, 398 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:22,720 Speaker 2: particularly interior offensive lineman, being a great wrestler and having 399 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:26,320 Speaker 2: that experience translates to playing football because it's a very 400 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:29,880 Speaker 2: similar experience. And yeah, I wouldn't want to wrestle Creed 401 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:32,840 Speaker 2: in high school. Can you imagine that that's. 402 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:35,040 Speaker 1: The slap of the mat you've been pinned. But it's 403 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:37,679 Speaker 1: also about leverage and understanding kind of the physics of 404 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:41,399 Speaker 1: playing on the offensive line. But it segues into Ed Buddy. 405 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 1: We just lost Ed Buddy, member of the Super Bowl 406 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:48,560 Speaker 1: four championship team. He was a AFL All Star five times, 407 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:52,280 Speaker 1: two time All Pro. But what is lost about Ed Buddy? 408 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:53,960 Speaker 1: First of all, he should be in the Pro Football 409 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:56,480 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame, and why he is not needs to 410 00:18:56,520 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 1: be studied, or maybe we get him in there at 411 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 1: some point. But two, one of the most famous plays 412 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 1: in pro football history is sixty five top toss power 413 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:08,919 Speaker 1: trap in Super Bowl four in January of nineteen seventy, 414 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:10,880 Speaker 1: when the Chiefs won their first Super Bowl as big 415 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:14,240 Speaker 1: underdogs to the Minnesota Vikings. We talk about Mike Garrett 416 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:17,120 Speaker 1: running the ball, the footwork by Lenny Dawson, We see 417 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:20,080 Speaker 1: Hank Stram going watch it pop wide open boys, sixty 418 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:24,560 Speaker 1: five toss power trap dementor what we do not talk about. 419 00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 1: In fact, it's not even on That play is etched 420 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:30,720 Speaker 1: out in front of the Founder's Plaza, but you just 421 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 1: see a line drawn in the line of cross showing 422 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:37,960 Speaker 1: a block. Ed Buddy's block at left guard. He played 423 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:42,040 Speaker 1: fourteen years for the Chiefs at left guard. He makes 424 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:45,959 Speaker 1: the play maybe of that Super Bowl in his block. 425 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 1: Without Ed Buddy's block, there is no sixty five toss 426 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:53,320 Speaker 1: power trap, and therein lies the life of an offensive line. 427 00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:55,880 Speaker 2: That's why football is the ultimate team game. That's why 428 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:58,480 Speaker 2: football is the greatest game in the world. Because when 429 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:01,399 Speaker 2: you watch sixty five top power trap, like you said, 430 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:04,320 Speaker 2: your eyes go to Mike Garrett because he scored, and 431 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:07,200 Speaker 2: that's obviously very important. That's the center of the play. 432 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 2: But Mike Garrett cannot score by himself. Everything else has 433 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:14,520 Speaker 2: to go according to plan. Everyone has to do their job. 434 00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:17,240 Speaker 2: And think about some of the plays in recent Chiefs history. 435 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:20,520 Speaker 2: Think about the run to Immortality Damian Williams. We always 436 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:23,400 Speaker 2: talk about the blocking on that play. Doesn't happen if 437 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:25,159 Speaker 2: it was a Byron Pringle and Anthony Sherman. 438 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 1: Pringle had that when he at Pringles because it's a touchdown, 439 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:29,840 Speaker 1: he takes the DV off the screen. 440 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:30,439 Speaker 2: Uh huh. 441 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 1: Sherman knocks out two guys. But if there's not a 442 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 1: slow down play side by Eric Fisher, yeah, that play's 443 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:37,720 Speaker 1: going nowhere. In fact, it's going to be a loss. 444 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:40,360 Speaker 2: Great example, and that first down and of course ended 445 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:43,119 Speaker 2: up being a touchdown sealed the Super Bowl. Back in 446 00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:46,199 Speaker 2: Super Bowl fifty four for the Chiefs. Think about WASP 447 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:49,800 Speaker 2: in that Super Bowl. Patrick Mahomes has a fifteen step drop. 448 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:52,440 Speaker 2: Nick Bose is coming around the edge. It's one of 449 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:54,920 Speaker 2: the best defensive lines in the NFL. Third and fifteen 450 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:57,600 Speaker 2: they smell blood. The offensive line has to block just 451 00:20:57,680 --> 00:20:59,919 Speaker 2: long enough for Tyreek to make it down the field. 452 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:02,000 Speaker 2: So we can go on and on about this, but 453 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 2: the offensive line and the whole operation has to work 454 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:08,719 Speaker 2: in concert and together for some of the greatest moments 455 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:12,159 Speaker 2: to occur in Chief's history and NFL history. And we 456 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:15,800 Speaker 2: remember the highlight part like we remember Damian Williams running 457 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:18,439 Speaker 2: for the touchdown, and that's obviously very important. You have 458 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 2: to have the vision, you have to hold onto the 459 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:22,600 Speaker 2: football and score and be fast like Damian was, but 460 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 2: you have to have everything else working as well. And Ed, buddy, 461 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:29,080 Speaker 2: what he did on sixty five toss power trap is legendary. 462 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 2: It's legendary and it deserves more attention. 463 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:34,200 Speaker 1: He also became the first offensive lineman to be named 464 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:37,679 Speaker 1: Offensive Player of the Week in Pro football history. 465 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:38,280 Speaker 2: That's crazy. 466 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:41,520 Speaker 1: He absolutely obliterated the Raiders by himself one day, and 467 00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 1: there's so many guys that have talked about it. This said, 468 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 1: I've never seen an offensive lineman in a single game 469 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 1: dominate a game like Ed Buddy did against the Raiders, 470 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:51,680 Speaker 1: and he gets Offensive Player of the Week as alignment, 471 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 1: which never happened. We'll close it out this way just 472 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:57,080 Speaker 1: because of this game. We're going to try this again. 473 00:21:57,119 --> 00:21:59,359 Speaker 1: We're going to try to win the AFC West this week. 474 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:02,520 Speaker 1: Why we want to bring up offensive line masterminds and 475 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:06,680 Speaker 1: what we're calling ol university catalyst of victory. I think 476 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 1: we agree, Matt that the catalyst of victory this week 477 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:12,360 Speaker 1: over the Bengals and to try to win this division 478 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:16,159 Speaker 1: for an eighth consecutive year, will start with the offensive line. 479 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:20,000 Speaker 1: Because Trey Hendrickson, who plays for the Bengals, I think 480 00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:24,200 Speaker 1: is the most underrated edge player in the National Football League. 481 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 1: You hear about the Boses, you hear about Max Crosby, 482 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:33,240 Speaker 1: we don't hear enough about Trey hendricks Sixteen sacks is second. 483 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:35,880 Speaker 2: Right now in the NFL and seventy two pressures that's 484 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:38,720 Speaker 2: tenth in the NFL. And I think Sam Hubbard on 485 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:41,440 Speaker 2: the other side, is one of the more underrated edgereshers 486 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:43,919 Speaker 2: in the NFL. Been there a long time and a 487 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:46,280 Speaker 2: really good player who's been a thorn in our side 488 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:48,240 Speaker 2: every time we've played them. So they have one of 489 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:50,720 Speaker 2: the better tandems in the league. They don't have DJ 490 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 2: Reader in the middle. That is significant, one of the 491 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:57,480 Speaker 2: best interior pass rushers and run defenders in the NFL. 492 00:22:57,840 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 2: Not having him is a big deal. They lost him 493 00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:02,840 Speaker 2: to season ending injury a few weeks ago. But still, 494 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:05,520 Speaker 2: we just played these guys enough to know that this 495 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 2: defensive line in this pass rush is legit. And coming 496 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 2: off a tough game against the Raiders last week, how 497 00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:15,320 Speaker 2: do you set the tone early? You do it with 498 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:18,240 Speaker 2: the offensive line. And even though this came in a 499 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:20,720 Speaker 2: loss a few weeks ago, the way the Chiefs played 500 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:23,680 Speaker 2: against the Packers in the third quarter up front, where 501 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:26,120 Speaker 2: they were blowing the Packers off the line of scrimmage, 502 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:29,520 Speaker 2: Isaiah Pacheco was running for like eight yards of carry 503 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:32,000 Speaker 2: dragon guys with them and the offensive line was pushing 504 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:34,720 Speaker 2: the pile. I hope we see that kind of mentality 505 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:36,879 Speaker 2: from the Chiefs offensive line here in this game, because 506 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:39,359 Speaker 2: that's how you win, that sets the tone from the 507 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:42,040 Speaker 2: get go that it's going to be a sixty minute fight. 508 00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:46,320 Speaker 2: And frankly, the Raiders did that defensively last week where 509 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:49,439 Speaker 2: those guys wanted that game, it was apparent. And for 510 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:51,919 Speaker 2: the Chiefs in this one, from the offensive lines perspective, 511 00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:55,399 Speaker 2: if you come in with an edge except the tone early, 512 00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:57,919 Speaker 2: I like the Chiefs chances a lot and winning the 513 00:23:57,920 --> 00:23:59,160 Speaker 2: division against the Bengals. 514 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 1: This has got to be brush fire throughout that locker room. 515 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:04,800 Speaker 1: But setting the fire the offensive line, and we all 516 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:06,720 Speaker 1: know where they set in that locker room during the week. 517 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:09,119 Speaker 1: They're over in their own little corner. They need to 518 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:11,880 Speaker 1: be the catalyst for victory. And this Bengals defense, they 519 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:14,800 Speaker 1: also have Logan Wilson at linebacker. He might be the 520 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:17,000 Speaker 1: most underrated linebacker in the league, to go with Trey 521 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:19,280 Speaker 1: Hendrickson as the most underrated edge rusher, and then Cam 522 00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:23,000 Speaker 1: Tandler Britt the former Nebraska Cornhuskers. So they've got guys 523 00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:26,640 Speaker 1: up front, middle, and back. Now statistically they haven't had 524 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:29,840 Speaker 1: great statistics, but those guys that we just mentioned are 525 00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:32,840 Speaker 1: enough to wreck the party and the offensive line because 526 00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:35,639 Speaker 1: of delayed blitzes the games they call them games. In 527 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:38,919 Speaker 1: the NFL, you'll see stunts and twists where they're showing 528 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:40,639 Speaker 1: you this, but then all of a sudden they twist 529 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:42,960 Speaker 1: or do they delayed twists, and then here comes the linebacker. 530 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:45,920 Speaker 1: All of that is part of OL university, in part 531 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:48,479 Speaker 1: of OL masterminds, and for a guy like one Ye 532 00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:51,399 Speaker 1: Morris to learn who's lined up where and what are 533 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:53,480 Speaker 1: they doing in that split second after the snat. 534 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:56,159 Speaker 2: And here's the thing. If you look at the Bengals defense, 535 00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:58,159 Speaker 2: you mentioned that some of their stats are middle of 536 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:00,760 Speaker 2: the pack or bottom third of the league, which surprising. 537 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:04,760 Speaker 2: One area where they have really struggled is allowing explosive plays. 538 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:07,359 Speaker 2: They've allowed the most plays of ten or more yards 539 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:09,600 Speaker 2: of any team, with two hundred and twelve, and the 540 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:12,160 Speaker 2: most plays of twenty or more yards of any team 541 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:15,280 Speaker 2: was seventy three. For some context, the Chiefs have allowed 542 00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:18,040 Speaker 2: the second fewest plays of twenty or more yards defensively, 543 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:21,359 Speaker 2: with only forty two, so almost twice as many big 544 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:24,240 Speaker 2: plays allowed, both on the ground and through the air. 545 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:28,040 Speaker 2: But those explosive plays begin with the offensive line. Because 546 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:29,960 Speaker 2: whether it be a running play where you have to 547 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 2: open up the hole or a passing play where you 548 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:35,440 Speaker 2: need time for the play to develop, it all begins 549 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:38,400 Speaker 2: with the offensive line. So these Bengals, they allow explosive 550 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:40,520 Speaker 2: plays as long as the offensive line can set that 551 00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:44,040 Speaker 2: tone early. The one really scary thing about the Bengals 552 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:46,000 Speaker 2: defense when you're looking at all the numbers, the one 553 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:48,320 Speaker 2: category where they are near the top of the NFL 554 00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:52,359 Speaker 2: is red zone takeaways. They have seven red zone takeaways. 555 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:54,440 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh has more, I think. 556 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:57,960 Speaker 2: Exactly yep, seven red zone takeaways. So for the Chiefs 557 00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:00,480 Speaker 2: offense here in this one, you're moving down the field, 558 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:03,119 Speaker 2: you're feeling good. Not only do you have to finish 559 00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:05,080 Speaker 2: in the red zone, you have to not turn the 560 00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:07,919 Speaker 2: ball over in the red zone. So it's a huge 561 00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:11,160 Speaker 2: key here in this game. The Bengals defense, it's middle 562 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:13,240 Speaker 2: of the pack, but we've seen these guys enough to 563 00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:14,600 Speaker 2: know that they are very dangerous. 564 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:19,159 Speaker 1: So consider this as OL Masterminds, or we're calling it 565 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:23,720 Speaker 1: OL University. Think of its finals week for the Chiefs 566 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:26,879 Speaker 1: offensive line in trying to pass this test, and if 567 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:30,240 Speaker 1: they do so, it'll be the offensive line that will 568 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:57,600 Speaker 1: be catalyst to victory.