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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the solid verbal, Boys and girls. My

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Speaker 1: name is Tay Hildebrand, joining.

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Speaker 2: Me as always.

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Speaker 1: Over there in New York City. My man Dan Rubinstein, Sir,

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Speaker 1: how are you ty?

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Speaker 2: I have a confession? Yes, anything not like a Dave

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Speaker 2: Grol Isn't that how a Foo Fighter song?

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Speaker 2: It? Is that what I'm thinking?

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Speaker 2: I don't know the food Fighters well enough to know that,

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Speaker 2: we're back. My confession is as follows. You were a

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Speaker 2: I just personally like them. And I listened to Thunderstruck.

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Speaker 2: to preview, and some other games to discuss. Usually, I

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Speaker 2: would like to push this show into like ninety minutes,

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Speaker 2: just because I really like exploring the space with you.

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Speaker 2: That's something I love. I feel like after listening to

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Speaker 1: Let's get there, Tyler. Well, we got a lot to

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Speaker 2: Also, we've got a bunch of conference.

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Speaker 2: We We do indeed, and we also have some questions.

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Speaker 1: All right, okay, let's start here with your new college

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Speaker 2: It's not something I want, Like I We've been very

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Speaker 1: Cliff Kingsbury has officially been fired at Texas Tech. He

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Speaker 1: Sixty seven years old, right, but Nick Saban has momentum.

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Speaker 2: But they were wearing Russell Athletic last year.

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Speaker 1: TI.

434
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Speaker 2: This is that not a joke, not meant to be funny.

435
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Speaker 2: That is just a fact. They were wearing Russell athletic

436
00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:05,280
Speaker 2: uniforms and they finally, I think, upgraded to Adidas. So

437
00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:07,760
Speaker 2: I think if somebody is able to come in and

438
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Speaker 2: generate excitement, maybe get some donors worked up a little

439
00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:13,960
Speaker 2: bit into a lather, get you know, Georgia Tech as

440
00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:18,359
Speaker 2: a sort of refurbished brand in the South, in that region,

441
00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:20,119
Speaker 2: I think it can be a pretty good job. And

442
00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:21,960
Speaker 2: I think Tech could get to a point where they

443
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Speaker 2: win eight nine games a year. I think it's time

444
00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:29,760
Speaker 2: for them, specifically to get away from that flexbone as

445
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Speaker 2: staunch a defender of that system as I am for

446
00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:36,639
Speaker 2: schools that have disadvantages. If you're going to reboot, reboot,

447
00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:38,480
Speaker 2: and that's what I think, Georgia Tech needs to be.

448
00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:40,920
Speaker 1: Some other stuff quickly that I'm going to rifle through.

449
00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:43,840
Speaker 1: Matt Campbell says that he is staying put. He'll be

450
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Speaker 1: at Iowa State for twenty nineteen. I don't blame him,

451
00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:49,719
Speaker 1: think that's a good move for him. USC is shaking

452
00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:54,480
Speaker 1: up their staff. That is not surprising, no, And the

453
00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:57,200
Speaker 1: big name is te Martin. He Martin the offensive coordinator

454
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Speaker 1: as well as their defensive line and defensive back coaches.

455
00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:05,000
Speaker 1: Clancy Pendergas is safe as defensive coordinator.

456
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Speaker 2: Elsewhere.

457
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Speaker 1: We've got an opening at Tennessee for offensive coordinator. We've

458
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Speaker 1: got an opening at Oklahoma for defensive coordinator.

459
00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:16,600
Speaker 2: We knew that. Yeah, there may.

460
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Speaker 1: Be some openings at Florida State. We've seen some reports

461
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Speaker 1: here that Willie Taggert might be shaking up his staff

462
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Speaker 1: a little bit. Which, gosh, that didn't take long, did it.

463
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Speaker 2: No, when you don't make a bowl game in Tallahassee,

464
00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:32,080
Speaker 2: that's a problem. There needs to be some wrinkles, needs

465
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Speaker 2: to be some tweaks, a couple of weird moves. I

466
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Speaker 2: don't know if weird is the right word, But Scott

467
00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:41,000
Speaker 2: Leffler was hired by Bowling Green. That's Scott with one T,

468
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Speaker 2: Scott with one only one T, and that is the

469
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Speaker 2: same Scott Lefler. Maybe he's better built to be a

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Speaker 2: head coach. This is entirely possible. I know he has

471
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Speaker 2: Midwest recruiting ties, but he produced some clunkers on offense

472
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Speaker 2: as an offensive coordinator at Auburn, Virginia Tech, and most

473
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Speaker 2: recently Boston College, where he was hired away from the

474
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Speaker 2: reason there's an offensive coordinator opening at Tennessee is because

475
00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:05,960
Speaker 2: Western Kentucky hired away Tyson Hilton, I believe, brother of

476
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Speaker 2: Clay Helton, to be their head coach. He was formerly

477
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Speaker 2: there with Clay, which is the guy replacing Mike Sandford,

478
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Speaker 2: former Notre Dame offensive coordinator who was let go a

479
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Speaker 2: few days ago. Charlotte has hired and this is going

480
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Speaker 2: to connect everything. Tye Mike Houston, a coach of James

481
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:29,280
Speaker 2: Madison who travels to Beautiful plus three Hamilton, New York

482
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Speaker 2: this week and to take on the Colgate Raiders in

483
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Speaker 2: the FCS playoffs. Love Smith was extended, which seems curious,

484
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Speaker 2: but I think I understand why that is because he's

485
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Speaker 2: got a big old buyout and they just don't want

486
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Speaker 2: to make another change at head coach, and he's recruiting

487
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Speaker 2: well enough and the offense improved well enough. I guess

488
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Speaker 2: at times this year where they're just they're diving all

489
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Speaker 2: into the love Smith experience. There are rumblings that Khalil

490
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Speaker 2: Tate may be looking to transfer away from Arizona after

491
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Speaker 2: a year with Kevin Sumlin in that staff, which I

492
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Speaker 2: could imagine him being. I don't know his graduation status

493
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Speaker 2: if he can be eligible right away for next year.

494
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Speaker 2: He was a junior this year, that he would be

495
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Speaker 2: in demand. I would venture to say Marilynd remains open

496
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:17,560
Speaker 2: with their like they have the crosshairs on Mike Loxley,

497
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:20,720
Speaker 2: who obviously has a history there and is well connected,

498
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Speaker 2: known to be an excellent recruiter in that DMV area.

499
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Speaker 2: And what else do we have here? We have some

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Speaker 2: early declarations. I mean they're all obvious. Nikhil Harry, Nick

501
00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:37,360
Speaker 2: Bosa from a while ago, Rashaun Gary, and I think

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Speaker 2: I saw that Hawaii is playing Louisiana tack in the

503
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Speaker 2: Hawaii Bowl, So that's already a thing. Beyond that, ty

504
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Speaker 2: Oh Texas State hired Jake Spabott, all West Virginia offensive coordinator. Sure,

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Speaker 2: I think that's that's all I got. Colorado's still open.

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Speaker 2: Maybe Derek Mason, maybe Eric b Enemy a graduate, Dana

507
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Speaker 2: Holgerson in that mix.

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Speaker 1: That's it before we get into the game of the week.

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Speaker 1: we do have games to get through this week. It

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Speaker 1: is Week fourteen. It's conference championship week for most conferences.

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00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:35,200
Speaker 1: Even for those that have championship games, there are still

537
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:37,720
Speaker 1: a few that need to be played, might decide some

538
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Speaker 1: Bowl eligibility.

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00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:43,200
Speaker 2: So let's just dive right in time for help of

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Speaker 2: the week and as we do. Yeah, I've been looking here.

541
00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:52,920
Speaker 1: At a good window of opportunity because now as we

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Speaker 1: get into December, clearly there are going to be some

543
00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:58,120
Speaker 1: holiday things that you got to take care of, got

544
00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:01,080
Speaker 1: to check off to do lists, part ease right, like

545
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:04,280
Speaker 1: need to make sure that you can get the best

546
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Speaker 1: of both worlds.

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00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 2: The two games that I.

548
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:09,800
Speaker 1: Think will be the most interesting are Texas Oklahoma at

549
00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:15,440
Speaker 1: noon and Alabama Georgia at four pm Eastern time. Four

550
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:16,840
Speaker 1: pm Eastern yep.

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Speaker 2: I think it's shaping up for a nice little date night, Dan.

552
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:23,880
Speaker 2: I don't think you're terribly wrong with Clemson pit.

553
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:26,440
Speaker 1: I think you take out the mister or the missus.

554
00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:28,360
Speaker 1: If you don't have a mister or missus, treat yourself

555
00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:33,040
Speaker 1: do something special. I looked up but was unable to

556
00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:36,160
Speaker 1: find tickets for Cats this weekend. I don't even know

557
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:38,480
Speaker 1: if it's still playing. Someone needs to explain this to me.

558
00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:41,560
Speaker 1: I'm not fully in tune here. So I was looking

559
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:44,360
Speaker 1: maybe go to a late showing of The Christmas Spectacular.

560
00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:47,840
Speaker 1: It's only thirty six dollars. I'm also seeing a later

561
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:52,360
Speaker 1: showing of something called Cleopatra, which has the tagline Party

562
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:55,960
Speaker 1: until the Empire Falls and apparently includes a live DJ

563
00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:57,000
Speaker 1: and some EDM music.

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00:30:57,080 --> 00:31:00,640
Speaker 2: So where is this happening? I just checked New York, Okay,

565
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:03,320
Speaker 2: So I don't know. I mean maybe I'm speaking directly

566
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 2: to you or some people who live. I mean, we

567
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Speaker 2: have listeners here in the great New York area. But

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00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:11,160
Speaker 2: why not get a little saucy on Saturday night? I mean,

569
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:16,280
Speaker 2: if you want to miss Fresno Boise, sure not. I yeah,

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00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:18,840
Speaker 2: I think that's right. I think the evening time after Alabama.

571
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 2: If if you're not interested in Mountain Best Football, then

572
00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 2: do your thing. Get something good. But make your reservations early.

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00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:26,520
Speaker 2: People are going out.

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Speaker 1: Let's start Saturday high noon on ABC Texas at nine

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Speaker 1: and three versus Oklahoma at eleven and one.

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00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:36,240
Speaker 2: Oklahoma's an eight point.

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00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:40,280
Speaker 1: Favorite in the Doctor Pepper Big Twelve Championship game. They

578
00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:43,400
Speaker 1: played in Arlington at AT and T Stadium, Dan.

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Speaker 2: They do, can we can we set like the table

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Speaker 2: for all of this before we get into this specific game,

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00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:54,640
Speaker 2: of course. Okay, my first point is who is the

582
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:55,520
Speaker 2: sponsor of this game?

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00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:57,680
Speaker 1: Doctor Pepper. They're back, and what does that mean? That

584
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Speaker 1: means we get the Doctor Pepper tuition and throw?

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Speaker 2: Oh my goodness. And do we get it in just

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Speaker 2: one game? Tie?

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00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:03,560
Speaker 1: No?

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00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:05,240
Speaker 2: I believe we also get it in the a SEC

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00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 2: Championship game later on. I think we get it in

590
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 2: all five this year? Do we get a Doctor Pepper

591
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:14,480
Speaker 2: throw in every game? That's what I saw the Doctor

592
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Speaker 2: Pepper tuition giveaway website. Have they have they outlawed the

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00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:21,320
Speaker 2: underhand or the chest pass thing? Not? No, absolutely, not

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Speaker 2: by any means necessary. Tie. You know how I feel

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Speaker 2: about this. I'm very conflicted. Well, I mean, if if

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Speaker 2: you were watching the NBA three point shootout and somebody

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00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 2: decided to throw it underhand or chest shots something like that,

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00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:38,360
Speaker 2: you'd be fine with it. I don't think I would.

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00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 2: Oh come on, I don't think I would. With Devin

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00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:46,120
Speaker 2: Booker doing like a bowling motion to get a ball in, sure,

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Speaker 2: you would, I don't think I would. Okay, so you're

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Speaker 2: you think that it should be over the over the shoulder.

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Speaker 1: The sanctity of the throw motion needs to be preserved

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Speaker 1: in these contests.

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Speaker 2: Totally disagree. They separates the cool from the winning.

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00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:06,320
Speaker 1: This has ruined the sport the way the clap skate

607
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:07,480
Speaker 1: affected speed skating.

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00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 2: I've used that analogy before, but I know that's true.

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00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:13,560
Speaker 2: The other thing is Tye and we should deep dive

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Speaker 2: these games Pack twelve Championship and the MAC Championship games, which,

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Speaker 2: by the way, I love Conference Championship weekend. I know

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00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:22,200
Speaker 2: people are like, these games are portless TV. Who cares.

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00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:23,920
Speaker 2: It's get good college football. That means a lot to

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Speaker 2: these players. It's great. November thirtieth will be the PAC

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00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:34,120
Speaker 2: twelve and MAC Championship games. We go into December, December

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Speaker 2: one for these Saturday games, and you know what that means,

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Speaker 2: tie I think I know what it means. Dan hit

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Speaker 2: the button. Tieh Our December to remember very soothing begins

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Speaker 2: tie Ah and the giant novelty Bow that we get

620
00:33:57,240 --> 00:34:03,760
Speaker 2: to put on this Saturday gets laid on top of

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Speaker 2: the day by Tom Herman. Oh my god, that was

622
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Speaker 2: that snuck up on me. Thank you the novel. Okay,

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Speaker 2: let's talk Texas Oklahoma. Texas Oklahoma.

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Speaker 1: Texas won the regular season Red River Shootout forty eight

625
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:20,719
Speaker 1: to forty five back on October the sixth. If you

626
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:25,200
Speaker 1: don't remember that game, it was very much Sam Ellinger

627
00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:28,120
Speaker 1: against Kyler Murray. That was That was the game. Texas

628
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:30,719
Speaker 1: led by twenty one in the fourth quarter, Oklahoma came

629
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:31,359
Speaker 1: storming back.

630
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 2: They tied it.

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Speaker 1: Cameron Dicker, the Texas kicker, hit a forty yarder to

632
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Speaker 1: win it. Now they're playing again. As they say in

633
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Speaker 1: the MLB All Star Game, Dan, this one counts. This

634
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:47,759
Speaker 1: one does count, at least for Oklahoma. If they win,

635
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:51,600
Speaker 1: there's a good chance they're going to the playoff. If

636
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Speaker 1: you're Texas, if you win, it probably gets you a

637
00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:57,840
Speaker 1: spot in the Sugar Bowl. It surely gets you a

638
00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:01,360
Speaker 1: conference title. We can leave that one to the Bowl prognosticators.

639
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:03,040
Speaker 1: But there's a lot on the line here really for

640
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:08,760
Speaker 1: both teams. Since that first game, though, the Oklahoma offense

641
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:12,359
Speaker 1: has continued at what I would call a murderous pace.

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00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 2: Does that sound right to you? Yeah? I liked your

643
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:17,560
Speaker 2: limb from limb Yeah analogy, yep.

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00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 1: Just one time in their last six games have they

645
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 1: scored fewer than fifty points. So this offense is humming.

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00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:30,000
Speaker 1: We all know about Kyler Murray, We know about Tray Sermon,

647
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:32,800
Speaker 1: the emergence of Kennedy Brooks. We know about Hollywood Brown

648
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:35,440
Speaker 1: and Ceedee Lamb and the great years that they are

649
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:38,359
Speaker 1: having as an offensive unit. I want to circle back

650
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:41,240
Speaker 1: to something quickly that we talked about when we previewed

651
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:42,560
Speaker 1: the Big Twelve back in August.

652
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:46,879
Speaker 2: How about this offensive line? Huh oh, yeah, they've done it,

653
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:49,360
Speaker 2: just like if you watch some of the wirecam replays

654
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:51,440
Speaker 2: of the lanes that these running backs have had to

655
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:55,000
Speaker 2: run through. These are not the greatest defenses in the world,

656
00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:57,320
Speaker 2: but still inexcusably wide.

657
00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:01,560
Speaker 1: I'm not sure that this is the same team that

658
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 1: we saw back in October. No. You know, the Longhorns

659
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:08,879
Speaker 1: go as Sam Ellinger goes. And when they asked Tom

660
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:11,719
Speaker 1: Herman this week, how's the shoulder doing, he said, you know,

661
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:15,160
Speaker 1: not great, not great. It hasn't been the same since

662
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:18,600
Speaker 1: the Baylor game. I like Sam Ellinger, but.

663
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:20,560
Speaker 2: Listen, Dan, listen.

664
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 1: There's no doubt in my mind that he's not playing

665
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 1: at one hundred percent. They need him at one hundred percent.

666
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:28,920
Speaker 1: It's going to take forty five points to beat Oklahoma.

667
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 1: I don't think they got it in him. If that

668
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 1: shoulder is not up to snuff. So I think Oklahoma

669
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:36,680
Speaker 1: wins this one. I like him a lot. I like

670
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:38,839
Speaker 1: him big. I think they make a statement fifty one

671
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:39,520
Speaker 1: thirty one.

672
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:44,520
Speaker 2: Here, here's the thing. We started out friends. It was cool,

673
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:47,600
Speaker 2: but it was all pretend. Now I think those are

674
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:49,760
Speaker 2: the lyrics. I think I actually got that you did that. Well, yeah,

675
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:55,000
Speaker 2: thank you. Here's the thing about Texas. The four most

676
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:57,600
Speaker 2: prolific offenses that they've faced in the Big Twelve the

677
00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:00,920
Speaker 2: Oklahoma schools, West Virginia, Texas Tech. Both of these teams

678
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 2: have backloaded schedules. They've given up forty a game. This

679
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 2: is a different Texas defense than what we saw last year.

680
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:12,399
Speaker 2: The good news is Oklahoma against State UT Texas Tech,

681
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:16,440
Speaker 2: and West Virginia has given up fifty times. I think

682
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:18,279
Speaker 2: this game is gonna get weird. I would love to

683
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 2: take the points. I know everybody's pointing to Tom Herman's

684
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:23,040
Speaker 2: record as an underdog, which is something like twelve to

685
00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 2: one against the spread with nine outright wins. I think

686
00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:31,080
Speaker 2: Oklahoma wins this game. And I'm worried about Sam Ellinger's shoulder.

687
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 2: If he was at all healthy, I would say they

688
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 2: can generate enough bigger plays which is what Oklahoma's defense

689
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:39,239
Speaker 2: will give up. As we saw last week. I think

690
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:41,959
Speaker 2: Oklahoma finds a way with bigger stakes on the line

691
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 2: than Texas to win this game by eleven points. I

692
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:48,400
Speaker 2: have this one at forty eight thirty seven.

693
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 1: Moving on Saturday, four pm on CBS Georgia eleven to

694
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:59,320
Speaker 1: one out of the SEC East, Alabama twelve to zero

695
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:02,600
Speaker 1: out of the SCA West. The Crimson Tide is a

696
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:06,719
Speaker 1: thirteen and a half point favorite. In the SEC title game,

697
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:08,959
Speaker 1: they played in Mercedes Benz Stadium in.

698
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:10,759
Speaker 2: Atlanta, Dan.

699
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:13,720
Speaker 1: This is actually the second time these teams have played

700
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:16,919
Speaker 1: this calendar year, the very first time though that they're

701
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 1: playing this season. Their last contest was, of course, the

702
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:24,399
Speaker 1: National Championship back on January the eighth in this very

703
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:29,719
Speaker 1: dang stadium, Dan, yep, very same stadium. Alabama won that

704
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:32,040
Speaker 1: game a great one, twenty six to twenty three in

705
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:37,399
Speaker 1: ot thanks to those second half heroics from Tua Punga

706
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 1: Viaaloa thirteen and a half points. Though that is many points,

707
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:45,719
Speaker 1: feels like too many points for me.

708
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:50,839
Speaker 2: Uh, It's it's a lot. It's a lot, and we

709
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:53,840
Speaker 2: just saw Alabama. They eventually and last week was the

710
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:58,399
Speaker 2: crock potting eventually just the dam bursts with Alabama and

711
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:01,719
Speaker 2: Georgia is by far the best team they will play

712
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:05,160
Speaker 2: this season. They have a common opponent. Georgia lost by

713
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:07,240
Speaker 2: twenty I mean they have a couple, but Georgia lost

714
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:11,480
Speaker 2: by twenty Alabama shut them out by twenty plus in LSC.

715
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:15,719
Speaker 2: It a common really good opponents. Georgia probably has the

716
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:18,320
Speaker 2: best secondary in the country, which feels like a super

717
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:20,640
Speaker 2: good thing to have against what this Alabama team can

718
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:24,800
Speaker 2: do on offense. So if they're able to neutralize the

719
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 2: passing attack even a little bit, that brings points closer together.

720
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:32,640
Speaker 2: I mean, George's own offense is excellent. Jake fromm has

721
00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 2: been casually excellent most of the season. They've run the

722
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:40,480
Speaker 2: ball super well. I am concerned about their ability upfront

723
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 2: on defense to stop Alabama on the ground, but this

724
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:45,960
Speaker 2: is not an Alabama team who has run consistently well

725
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 2: against teams this season. It has been sort of an

726
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:50,880
Speaker 2: up and down year despite having that much talent in

727
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:55,160
Speaker 2: their backfield. I like Alabama to win this game. I

728
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:57,440
Speaker 2: like them because there are just more things I trust

729
00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:01,319
Speaker 2: about this team. I just I don't see Georgia as

730
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:04,399
Speaker 2: two touchdowns worse. I don't either. I see them doing

731
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:08,759
Speaker 2: this game by a possession ish seven eight points, and

732
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:11,600
Speaker 2: I am going to I'm going to have it like

733
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:14,920
Speaker 2: thirty four to twenty seven Alabama. So give me your

734
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:15,480
Speaker 2: dogs to cover.

735
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:18,680
Speaker 1: Very much of the same mind here, I think the

736
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:21,399
Speaker 1: Dogs can hang. They've got a good ground game, They're

737
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:24,439
Speaker 1: efficient through the air, They're very good on special teams,

738
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:28,279
Speaker 1: much better than Alabama actually, and more importantly, you know,

739
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:32,040
Speaker 1: I'm into these intangibles. They've got an ax to grind.

740
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:35,360
Speaker 1: This is a big time revenge game for Kirby Smart

741
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 1: and Jake from and a lot of those Georgia players

742
00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:40,839
Speaker 1: who were on the field back in January when Tua

743
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:44,840
Speaker 1: cut their hearts out Dad in the National Championship. The

744
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:48,480
Speaker 1: question is, as you mentioned, how long can Georgia hang?

745
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:52,719
Speaker 1: Because I too have more confidence in what Alabama puts

746
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:55,600
Speaker 1: on the field than Georgia. But I also have confidence

747
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 1: that Georgia is good enough to linger and make enough

748
00:40:58,080 --> 00:41:00,239
Speaker 1: big plays, some of those chunk plays, to keep this

749
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:00,920
Speaker 1: one interesting.

750
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:02,279
Speaker 2: I am with you.

751
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:05,760
Speaker 1: I actually thought about locking up Georgia here plus the points.

752
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:07,200
Speaker 2: I may go back and do that.

753
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:09,839
Speaker 1: I feel very confident that they can keep it till

754
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:13,320
Speaker 1: like thirty one, twenty four something in that vicinity.

755
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:16,680
Speaker 2: By the way, you mentioned, you know, Georgia trying to

756
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 2: get a revenge spot win against Alabama in this very stadium.

757
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 2: Remember how many yards short Georgia was at the very

758
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 2: end of the game with Aaron Murray in the SEC

759
00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:29,800
Speaker 2: Championship game. There's somebody somewhere in Georgia with a bunch

760
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:34,000
Speaker 2: of pins and yarn on his or her wall connecting angles.

761
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:37,040
Speaker 2: That know, in fact, Georgia did win that game. There

762
00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:40,640
Speaker 2: is still some animus, I'm sure with Georgia being that close.

763
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:45,240
Speaker 2: Now sixty year cod six years has gone by since that. Yeah,

764
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:47,399
Speaker 2: we're so old. The other big thing to me ty

765
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:50,400
Speaker 2: to remember about both the Big twelve championship game in

766
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:54,240
Speaker 2: the SEC Championship game and the Doctor Pepper tuition throwing giveaway.

767
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:57,360
Speaker 2: If you're terrible at it, not only are you on

768
00:41:57,480 --> 00:42:00,840
Speaker 2: TV being terrible at it, buddy, These stadiums have some

769
00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:07,240
Speaker 2: huge screens. The pressure that these young men and women

770
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 2: are feeling, I can't imagine how the shoulders that they

771
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:15,520
Speaker 2: the shouldering load that they have to do throwing these

772
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:18,960
Speaker 2: dumb footballs into a giant inflatable soda can. God bless,

773
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:20,920
Speaker 2: I think I would buckle under the pressure.

774
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:25,240
Speaker 1: Do you think when you are selected that Doctor Pepper

775
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:28,360
Speaker 1: provides any kind of training aids.

776
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:31,600
Speaker 2: I looked at the rules. Do they give you.

777
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:35,000
Speaker 1: An inflatable can that you have to throw into that

778
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:35,960
Speaker 1: you can pronounce with.

779
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:39,279
Speaker 2: Not only do they not give you your own inflatable

780
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:43,000
Speaker 2: can to practice with, they don't let you get any

781
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:47,279
Speaker 2: practice throws, like while they're at commercial right between the

782
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:51,200
Speaker 2: game and halftime. In the specific rules the by loss

783
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:55,440
Speaker 2: of the Doctor Pepper tuition throw giveaway, they say no

784
00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:56,320
Speaker 2: practice throws.

785
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:58,719
Speaker 1: See that's a BS because you hear it all the

786
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:01,200
Speaker 1: time with the NCAA tournament when they play in a

787
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:06,040
Speaker 1: football stadium, how their angles and the just the geometry.

788
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:08,440
Speaker 2: Maybe the day before, maybe they get a walk through

789
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:10,759
Speaker 2: the day before that I can't speak to, but it

790
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:13,960
Speaker 2: can in terms of on the field, like the team's

791
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:16,040
Speaker 2: the NCAA Tournament get you know, lay up lines and

792
00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:19,759
Speaker 2: the Yeah, there is no such Maybe they can go home.

793
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:21,680
Speaker 2: They maybe they measured out at home and they figured out.

794
00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:25,160
Speaker 2: I hope that they do. I would, But before it begins,

795
00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:27,440
Speaker 2: you do not get but a single not even a

796
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:28,759
Speaker 2: single practice throw.

797
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:30,879
Speaker 1: I would love to talk to a Doctor Pepper PR

798
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:33,040
Speaker 1: person on this show. I don't like timing the PR people,

799
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:34,520
Speaker 1: but I would talk to that PR person.

800
00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:37,960
Speaker 2: I'm sure we could get I'm sure we could a

801
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:41,480
Speaker 2: PR person we really wanted it could. Yeah, all right.

802
00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:47,240
Speaker 1: Saturday, eight pm ABC, Pitt the Panthers seven and five

803
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:51,120
Speaker 1: squaring off against Clemson. They're twelve and oh. They're also

804
00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:53,799
Speaker 1: a twenty seven and a half point favorite in the

805
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:57,959
Speaker 1: Doctor Pepper ACC Title Game. They play it at Bank

806
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:01,719
Speaker 1: of America Stadium in Charlotte. These teams did not meet

807
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:05,200
Speaker 1: in the regular season. The last time they played was

808
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:08,200
Speaker 1: back in twenty sixteen, when Pitt pulled off the miracle

809
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:11,600
Speaker 1: upset YEP and won on the road by a forty

810
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:13,120
Speaker 1: three to forty two score.

811
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:15,960
Speaker 2: Back when you could have opinions like Nate Peterman, Oh,

812
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:16,800
Speaker 2: he's pretty good.

813
00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:21,799
Speaker 1: Interestingly enough, Dan Pitt is two to zero all time

814
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 1: in this series. They only played twice. Once was in

815
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:28,880
Speaker 1: twenty sixteen. The other was back in nineteen seventy seven.

816
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:33,320
Speaker 1: So let me start here. What do we know about Pitt?

817
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:33,600
Speaker 2: Dan?

818
00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 1: What do we tell me? What we know about Pitt

819
00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:37,600
Speaker 1: and what they want to do? In this football game,

820
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:43,439
Speaker 1: run run, run, run run. Has Clemson played any other

821
00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:47,040
Speaker 1: teams that want to run, run, run, run, run.

822
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:50,839
Speaker 2: I believe they have. I mean they played maybe one

823
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:53,000
Speaker 2: of the best eight running teams in the country in

824
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:57,560
Speaker 2: Georgia Tech. What do you think will happen when this

825
00:44:57,640 --> 00:45:02,120
Speaker 2: Clemson defensive line encounter is an offense like Pitt that

826
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:04,400
Speaker 2: just wants to run, run, run, run run. Do you

827
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:11,200
Speaker 2: have the Andre Brower sound? That's it? So that's what

828
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:13,440
Speaker 2: will happen. And listen, this is it will be a

829
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:16,320
Speaker 2: December to remember for Pitt. You go to the conference

830
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:20,080
Speaker 2: championship game, that's awesome. You know, the way that they've

831
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:22,040
Speaker 2: run the ball, the way that their defense is improved

832
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:26,279
Speaker 2: this year, you know, going from atrocious to all right.

833
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:30,640
Speaker 2: Sometimes that's a wonderful story. Pitt took advantage of a

834
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:33,719
Speaker 2: down division. They got to the championship game. They are

835
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:38,440
Speaker 2: uniquely suited to not succeed against Clemson, and that is

836
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 2: not their fault. Clemson is just excellent. If Pitt were

837
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:44,040
Speaker 2: an air raid team, if Pitt were winging the ball

838
00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:47,040
Speaker 2: all around with just their way whatever his name is,

839
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:50,040
Speaker 2: they'd be it'd be a different story. That's not the

840
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:53,320
Speaker 2: pit team this year and unfortunately for Pitt and listen,

841
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:58,320
Speaker 2: it'd be wonderful, Liz, Liz, for Pitt to win this game. Ah,

842
00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:00,480
Speaker 2: they lost. They lost to a team where a quarterback

843
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:03,520
Speaker 2: went six for twenty four last week. I don't see

844
00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:08,480
Speaker 2: it happening twenty seven and a half. Yeah, I'll give them.

845
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:12,239
Speaker 2: I'm gonna give the points. Thirty eight to seven Clemson, Yeah,

846
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:14,480
Speaker 2: is my prediction. I think they win. They cover.

847
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:18,640
Speaker 1: Clemson's defense is so good at stopping the run that

848
00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:22,879
Speaker 1: they've allowed two hundred and sixty three rushing yards collectively

849
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:24,360
Speaker 1: in their last five games.

850
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:31,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's really freaking guard. There is a vacuum of

851
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:34,280
Speaker 2: yardage when you try to run against Clemson.

852
00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:39,720
Speaker 1: Saturday night also the Big Ten championship game, so on Fox.

853
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:43,280
Speaker 1: They played this one in Indianapolis at Lucas Oil Stadium.

854
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:47,240
Speaker 1: It is between Northwestern at eight and four and Ohio

855
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:49,560
Speaker 1: State at eleven and one. The buck guys are a

856
00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:54,200
Speaker 1: fourteen point favorite. They did not play during the regular season,

857
00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:55,920
Speaker 1: but the last time they did play was also in

858
00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:59,319
Speaker 1: twenty sixteen. Ohio State won by the skin of their

859
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:03,839
Speaker 1: teeth four to twenty. In Columbus. We've got Northwestern coming

860
00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:08,000
Speaker 1: off a win over Illinois, Illinois by like eight points.

861
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:11,200
Speaker 1: We've got Ohio State coming off that blowout of Michigan.

862
00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:15,320
Speaker 1: The conventional wisdom here is that Ohio State's gonna go

863
00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:17,800
Speaker 1: out there and destroy the Cats. The S and P

864
00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:21,640
Speaker 1: plus has them winning by a twenty point margin. I

865
00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:27,120
Speaker 1: looked at number fire, which is another predictive thing team rankings.

866
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:30,799
Speaker 1: Our friends over at Massy Peabody, literally everyone has this

867
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:31,120
Speaker 1: as a.

868
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:32,880
Speaker 2: Blowout for Ohio State. Yeah.

869
00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:40,480
Speaker 1: So, because I'm up by four percentage points on you

870
00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:44,800
Speaker 1: in our annual pick them contest, I'm gonna get a

871
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:45,640
Speaker 1: little crazy.

872
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:48,040
Speaker 2: Dan, oh get wacky. I'm gonna get I'm gonna get

873
00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:48,879
Speaker 2: a little wacky. Here.

874
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:52,000
Speaker 1: Go back and look at what the Cardiac Cats have

875
00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:57,160
Speaker 1: done this season. Okay, outside of a fourteen point loss

876
00:47:57,200 --> 00:48:02,719
Speaker 1: to Duke, outside of a fourteen point win against Wisconsin,

877
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:07,240
Speaker 1: they have played exactly ten games decided by ten points

878
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:07,720
Speaker 1: or fewer.

879
00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:09,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, they have.

880
00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:14,120
Speaker 1: All they do is playing close games, Dan, And to

881
00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:17,840
Speaker 1: be honest, they sorted the file logic case in point.

882
00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:23,600
Speaker 1: Clayton Thorson has negative one hundred and one rushing yards

883
00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:24,160
Speaker 1: on the season.

884
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:28,279
Speaker 2: I mean that includes sacks, but yes, negative negative what,

885
00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:28,640
Speaker 2: oh what?

886
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:33,400
Speaker 1: And still somehow has eight rushing touchdowns. This team is

887
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:37,680
Speaker 1: beyond logic, Dan, I think they play a boring defensive game.

888
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:40,760
Speaker 1: I think Isaiah Bowser can run. I think Clayton Thorson

889
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:42,879
Speaker 1: can get something going through the air.

890
00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:44,520
Speaker 2: Everyone looks at this.

891
00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:47,440
Speaker 1: They look at Ohio State stealing a playoff spot off

892
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:50,160
Speaker 1: the back of a truck. I'm looking at this as

893
00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:54,640
Speaker 1: Northwestern's chance to prove that they belong. They pull the

894
00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:57,239
Speaker 1: upset twenty nine to twenty eight. They win the they

895
00:48:57,280 --> 00:48:59,279
Speaker 1: win twenty nine to twenty eight.

896
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:05,040
Speaker 2: Oh my god, t you are. Let's get saucy you

897
00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:08,799
Speaker 2: and Northwestern strength coach who wears two small shirts going

898
00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:11,360
Speaker 2: bonkers in the cold, both of you. We got a

899
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:17,520
Speaker 2: weekly skype chat you and northwesterns by Sat McGee a

900
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:21,440
Speaker 2: little off, but that's okay. Northwestern played Rutgers close, they

901
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:25,600
Speaker 2: played Akron close, they played Illinois close. They did play

902
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:30,480
Speaker 2: Michigan and Notre Dame relatively close. I don't see it, Tye.

903
00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:34,160
Speaker 2: I if Northwestern this is another thing. The types of

904
00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:38,600
Speaker 2: teams that hang with, if not beat, Ohio State find grass.

905
00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:41,560
Speaker 2: They find green grass in that they are able to

906
00:49:41,600 --> 00:49:44,640
Speaker 2: spread the ball around and find mismatches and get the

907
00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:49,120
Speaker 2: ball into space. They are turf hunters. Don't look up

908
00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:54,600
Speaker 2: turf hunters. Northwestern is not that team. Northwestern just saying it.

909
00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:58,799
Speaker 2: And I with the stakes Ohio State has, They're going

910
00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:00,799
Speaker 2: to need style points. It is going to be on

911
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:03,560
Speaker 2: a fast track at a well, it's Lucas so oil

912
00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:06,960
Speaker 2: inside right, yep, yep. I think Ohio State takes care

913
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:08,960
Speaker 2: of business here in a pretty monstrous way. I think

914
00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:11,520
Speaker 2: they win this game by twenty points. And I'm with

915
00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:14,280
Speaker 2: you with the cardiac kids. This defense is very good.

916
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:18,720
Speaker 2: Dwayne Haskins is gooder. Okay, I just wanted to say gooder.

917
00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:23,240
Speaker 2: I have Ohio State here forty two to twenty.

918
00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:27,680
Speaker 1: Tired is the mind that has Ohio State up by

919
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:32,359
Speaker 1: twenty twenty two. But wired, wired is Northwestern by one

920
00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:33,160
Speaker 1: pulling out the exit.

921
00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:37,080
Speaker 2: So north Western back to Pasadena. Yeah, what what the hell? Wow?

922
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:37,880
Speaker 2: I love it.

923
00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:41,319
Speaker 1: Shout out Roger Sherman. He'll be there Friday, eight pm.

924
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:46,120
Speaker 1: As we travel back in time. Fox Pack twelve game

925
00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:50,400
Speaker 1: Utah nine and three Washington nine and three. Husky's favored

926
00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:52,120
Speaker 1: by five and a half. They played this one in

927
00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:56,440
Speaker 1: Levi Stadium in Santa Clara they played earlier in the year.

928
00:50:56,640 --> 00:51:01,120
Speaker 1: Washington won twenty one to seven, totally shutting down Utah's offense.

929
00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:04,920
Speaker 1: They forced three turnovers. They were also very good when

930
00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:09,160
Speaker 1: they were backed up. This was absolutely a statement game

931
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:13,120
Speaker 1: for that Washington defense. The other takeaway from that game

932
00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:15,200
Speaker 1: was Miles Gaskin was really good. He was the best

933
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:19,279
Speaker 1: player on the field. How do you feel about this game, Dan,

934
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:21,640
Speaker 1: Five and a half points is quite a spread in

935
00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:23,200
Speaker 1: a game that feels like it could be close.

936
00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:26,759
Speaker 2: Well, they're both beatable teams, so that's at least nice

937
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:28,960
Speaker 2: in terms of a back and forth or a competitive

938
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:32,440
Speaker 2: possibility in that good teams have beaten them. And both

939
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:34,879
Speaker 2: of these teams have beaten pretty good teams Washington most

940
00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:38,320
Speaker 2: notably last week against Wazoo in the Apple Cup. Utah,

941
00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:41,040
Speaker 2: you know, has beaten you at They beat usc comfortably.

942
00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:45,399
Speaker 2: They beat Oregon. They were within a few points of

943
00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:47,840
Speaker 2: Washington State a few seconds of beating Washington State. So

944
00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:49,520
Speaker 2: this is a good Utah team. The problem to me

945
00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:54,560
Speaker 2: is Jason Shelley's the backup quarterback. The backfield is relatively

946
00:51:54,560 --> 00:51:59,319
Speaker 2: inexperienced with injuries. There to Zach Moss, I think I

947
00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:02,920
Speaker 2: like Washington here on a neutral field, in that big stadium,

948
00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:05,440
Speaker 2: in front of pack twelve. Fans got mad at me

949
00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:06,960
Speaker 2: for saying not a lot of people would show up.

950
00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:11,520
Speaker 2: Oh well, maybe they will. But I do like Washington

951
00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:16,000
Speaker 2: here by ten to thirteen. I'm low scoring again, something

952
00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:20,080
Speaker 2: like twenty four to fourteen. But yeah, I like U

953
00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:22,759
Speaker 2: dub to go, and I guess if we're talking about

954
00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:26,040
Speaker 2: your Rose Bowl, an all purple Rose Bowl with Northwestern,

955
00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:30,040
Speaker 2: that's right, that's right, it's going to happen. I just

956
00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:32,200
Speaker 2: think it's a boring game. Let's leave it. Listen.

957
00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:35,239
Speaker 1: I'm not given the points here. I know Utah is

958
00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:38,080
Speaker 1: banged up. It just feels like a boring slog of

959
00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:40,600
Speaker 1: a game. Utah grinds it out somehow.

960
00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:41,080
Speaker 2: Someway.

961
00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:44,040
Speaker 1: They win the field position game, they lose by a

962
00:52:44,080 --> 00:52:45,400
Speaker 1: field goal twenty to seventeen.

963
00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:49,640
Speaker 2: Okay, so they do cover. You will take those points

964
00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:53,520
Speaker 2: they cover? We disagree, We disagree, and quickly ty. If

965
00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:57,040
Speaker 2: you are going to North Texas for the Big twelve,

966
00:52:57,120 --> 00:53:02,080
Speaker 2: going to Arlington Pecan Lodge for Barbie, yeah that's the move, yes, Dallas.

967
00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:06,080
Speaker 2: If you're going to Atlanta for George Alabama, get either

968
00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:10,480
Speaker 2: Bees Cracklin or Heirloom Barbecue for Airon Barbecue Market for barbecue,

969
00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:12,879
Speaker 2: or go to Pont City Market. All sorts of food

970
00:53:12,920 --> 00:53:16,680
Speaker 2: options there once again Fudo Buddha for ramen and Charlotte's.

971
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:19,080
Speaker 2: If you're going to San Francisco, go to La Tak

972
00:53:19,120 --> 00:53:21,680
Speaker 2: area for burritos and get them dorado so they're nice

973
00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:24,360
Speaker 2: and crispy. And if you're going to Indianapolis for northwestern

974
00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:28,000
Speaker 2: Ohio State, I assume there are paneras. I assume there

975
00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:31,080
Speaker 2: are a wealth that was disrespectful. I think there's a

976
00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:33,879
Speaker 2: place with shrimp cocktail, but I don't know Indianapolis food.

977
00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:37,480
Speaker 1: All right, some group of five championship games, yes, that

978
00:53:37,560 --> 00:53:41,160
Speaker 1: we need to discuss quickly. Also on Friday night, ESPN

979
00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:45,080
Speaker 1: two Northern Illinois the Huskies at seven and five Buffalo

980
00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:47,799
Speaker 1: with a ten and two season. They're favored by three

981
00:53:47,840 --> 00:53:50,759
Speaker 1: and a half. It's the MAC Championship game at Ford Field.

982
00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:53,719
Speaker 1: Buffalo has been a great story this year. They're led

983
00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:59,279
Speaker 1: by a quarterback, Tyree Jackson. He is six seven, two

984
00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:03,200
Speaker 1: forty five, a big dude. They also beat Temple earlier

985
00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:04,960
Speaker 1: in the year, which has proven to be a pretty

986
00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:08,760
Speaker 1: good win. And IU the story with NIU is always

987
00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:10,000
Speaker 1: that they play really good defense.

988
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:11,920
Speaker 2: But they are coming off two straight losses here.

989
00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:16,040
Speaker 1: So I am going to ride with Tyree Jackson, the

990
00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:19,000
Speaker 1: big dude six seven, two forty five. I'm going to

991
00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:22,919
Speaker 1: ride with Buffalo here. Give me ba ba ba. Let's

992
00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:26,839
Speaker 1: say thirty one to seventeen, all.

993
00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:30,239
Speaker 2: Right, Lance Leopold does an amazing job ten and two, Buffalo.

994
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:32,160
Speaker 2: We have Lance in our pants because I think we

995
00:54:32,239 --> 00:54:33,880
Speaker 2: both like the bulls.

996
00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:34,080
Speaker 1: Here.

997
00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:37,759
Speaker 2: It's hope versus hopelessness. So I'm going with hope of

998
00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:42,120
Speaker 2: offense versus NIU just trying to destroy all that is wonderful.

999
00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:44,839
Speaker 2: So as great as Sutton Smith is and has been

1000
00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:47,840
Speaker 2: for a long long time for Northern Illinois, give me,

1001
00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:50,800
Speaker 2: give me that fun Buffalo offense with Yes, Tyre Jackson

1002
00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:53,400
Speaker 2: will just wing it downfield for like sixty eight yards.

1003
00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:55,720
Speaker 2: That's on a whim. So yeah, we were.

1004
00:54:55,800 --> 00:55:00,560
Speaker 1: Saturday High New ESPN Louisiana Lafayette at seven and five

1005
00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:04,680
Speaker 1: against app State at nine and two. They're sixteen and

1006
00:55:04,680 --> 00:55:08,439
Speaker 1: a half point favorite. It's a Sunbelt Championship game. App

1007
00:55:08,480 --> 00:55:11,160
Speaker 1: State again in line for a nine win season, the

1008
00:55:11,239 --> 00:55:14,200
Speaker 1: fourth straight year they've gotten to at least nine wins

1009
00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:19,239
Speaker 1: under Scott Sadderfield. It's tough to go against app State here.

1010
00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:22,920
Speaker 1: They've been in games like this before. They've been a

1011
00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:26,719
Speaker 1: solid opponent all throughout the season. I'm gonna go app

1012
00:55:26,719 --> 00:55:28,320
Speaker 1: State minus anything.

1013
00:55:28,880 --> 00:55:30,839
Speaker 2: I believe they played during the season and app State

1014
00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:34,320
Speaker 2: beat him by ten. Yeah, if what I'm seeing is correct,

1015
00:55:34,719 --> 00:55:37,560
Speaker 2: I think app State and Scott Sadderfield with in. This

1016
00:55:37,640 --> 00:55:39,800
Speaker 2: is a year where they are without their best offensive

1017
00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:41,880
Speaker 2: weapon and Jalen Moore who went down pretty early on

1018
00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:44,799
Speaker 2: with the season ending injury. So in a week in

1019
00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:49,520
Speaker 2: which North Carolina hired Mac Brown potentially instead of sco

1020
00:55:50,120 --> 00:55:54,759
Speaker 2: Scott Sadderfield. Excuse me, you say Scott Fatterfield Scott? Oh gosh, ty,

1021
00:55:56,320 --> 00:56:00,759
Speaker 2: maybe I perhaps did because he's with wins. As you

1022
00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:04,959
Speaker 2: were mentioning, I think Appstate lays waste to I agree

1023
00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:07,040
Speaker 2: with Rage and Cagun's here, so bye.

1024
00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:11,680
Speaker 1: They cover Saturday at one thirty CBS Sports Network. You

1025
00:56:11,880 --> 00:56:16,640
Speaker 1: ab uab at Blazers nine and three, Middle Tennessee at

1026
00:56:16,680 --> 00:56:19,080
Speaker 1: eight and four, two and a half point favorite in

1027
00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:22,400
Speaker 1: the Conference USA champion Ship.

1028
00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:26,200
Speaker 2: They played last week. Actually, yeah, they did Middle Tennessee

1029
00:56:26,239 --> 00:56:27,720
Speaker 2: one twenty seven to three.

1030
00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:31,280
Speaker 1: UAB kicked the field goal on the very first drive

1031
00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:32,520
Speaker 1: of the game, but that was it.

1032
00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:35,960
Speaker 2: They finished with three points with eighty nine total.

1033
00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:40,839
Speaker 1: Yards, and they've been a great story all year.

1034
00:56:41,040 --> 00:56:43,360
Speaker 2: It's tough to not root for UAB.

1035
00:56:44,200 --> 00:56:48,239
Speaker 1: But what changes in one week between a twenty four

1036
00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:52,239
Speaker 1: point loss where you had eighty nine total yards got dominated,

1037
00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:55,680
Speaker 1: and this week now where you're only a two and

1038
00:56:55,760 --> 00:57:00,560
Speaker 1: a half point dog. Uh. I'm going Brent Stott still

1039
00:57:01,040 --> 00:57:04,680
Speaker 1: for Middle Tennessee. I'm going with his completion percentage of

1040
00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:07,799
Speaker 1: seventy one percent, which is second coaches kid, yeah in

1041
00:57:07,840 --> 00:57:11,680
Speaker 1: the nation. Yeah, let's go Blue Raiders here to winning

1042
00:57:11,719 --> 00:57:12,719
Speaker 1: cover by two and a half.

1043
00:57:13,160 --> 00:57:16,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean UAB. The Blazers are beat up Spencer Brown,

1044
00:57:16,280 --> 00:57:19,920
Speaker 2: They're all everything running back and just a ridiculous talent.

1045
00:57:20,120 --> 00:57:23,120
Speaker 2: He I don't even he may have had akerry last week,

1046
00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:25,480
Speaker 2: so that was a big difference maker. They've dealt with

1047
00:57:25,520 --> 00:57:29,200
Speaker 2: injuries at quarterback, So this is a UAB team that

1048
00:57:29,320 --> 00:57:32,080
Speaker 2: at full strength is I think much better than what

1049
00:57:32,120 --> 00:57:35,200
Speaker 2: they've looked like at least last week. I'm also going

1050
00:57:35,280 --> 00:57:37,920
Speaker 2: to go with Mitsu here. I think Middle Tennessee is

1051
00:57:38,040 --> 00:57:41,160
Speaker 2: just in a better place health wise, and you know

1052
00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:43,240
Speaker 2: are prepared for you. It'd be tough to beat a

1053
00:57:43,320 --> 00:57:46,520
Speaker 2: team two weeks in a row. But I can't imagine

1054
00:57:46,520 --> 00:57:50,000
Speaker 2: that Alabama Birmingham isn't as good a place this week

1055
00:57:50,120 --> 00:57:51,560
Speaker 2: as Alabama Tuscaloosa.

1056
00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:54,720
Speaker 1: Saturday at three thirty, it's the American Championship game on

1057
00:57:54,760 --> 00:57:57,320
Speaker 1: ABC Memphis and eight and four. You see f at

1058
00:57:57,320 --> 00:58:02,800
Speaker 1: eleven and Zer the Night are a three point favored

1059
00:58:02,840 --> 00:58:06,160
Speaker 1: in this one, Dan, But of course the backdrop is

1060
00:58:06,240 --> 00:58:11,280
Speaker 1: Mackenzie Milton and his catastrophic knee injury leg injury really

1061
00:58:11,360 --> 00:58:14,360
Speaker 1: from a week ago. Mackenzie Milton's parents did put out

1062
00:58:14,360 --> 00:58:18,080
Speaker 1: a statement that quote, the blood flow has been restored

1063
00:58:18,120 --> 00:58:21,560
Speaker 1: to his right leg and his nerve is injured but intact.

1064
00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:27,000
Speaker 2: So for the uninitiated among us, yeah.

1065
00:58:26,640 --> 00:58:30,200
Speaker 1: Whatever, they start talking about restoring blood flow as part

1066
00:58:30,200 --> 00:58:34,040
Speaker 1: of an injury, not just a standard acl or meniscus

1067
00:58:34,280 --> 00:58:36,400
Speaker 1: or anything else in the leg.

1068
00:58:36,520 --> 00:58:38,479
Speaker 2: That's pretty serious stuff. Yeah.

1069
00:58:38,520 --> 00:58:41,120
Speaker 1: Good that it's restored, bad that it had to be restored,

1070
00:58:41,160 --> 00:58:43,480
Speaker 1: bad that it had to be restored. We wish him well.

1071
00:58:44,120 --> 00:58:47,880
Speaker 1: We hope that he has a speedy recovery. Certainly as

1072
00:58:47,880 --> 00:58:50,040
Speaker 1: it relates to this game, Ucef is going to be

1073
00:58:50,080 --> 00:58:52,400
Speaker 1: playing a bit shorthanded, not having him out there being

1074
00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:55,920
Speaker 1: so he was such a playmaker. The last time these

1075
00:58:55,960 --> 00:58:58,000
Speaker 1: two teams played, it was close. It was thirty one

1076
00:58:58,160 --> 00:59:00,960
Speaker 1: thirty in favor of UCF. Now I think it flips

1077
00:59:01,000 --> 00:59:04,560
Speaker 1: the other way. I think Memphis ends that UCF winning streak.

1078
00:59:04,600 --> 00:59:06,360
Speaker 1: I think they win this one out right, even though

1079
00:59:06,360 --> 00:59:10,240
Speaker 1: they're playing it at UCF's home stadium, Spectrum Stadium in Orlando.

1080
00:59:11,520 --> 00:59:14,800
Speaker 1: There's just there's just so much here working against UCF

1081
00:59:14,840 --> 00:59:17,919
Speaker 1: with Milton being out that I think it's Memphis's chance

1082
00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:19,040
Speaker 1: to get some revenge.

1083
00:59:19,360 --> 00:59:22,440
Speaker 2: I am curious, and I think we have. We've watched

1084
00:59:22,440 --> 00:59:25,360
Speaker 2: these teams enough over the course of these past couple

1085
00:59:25,360 --> 00:59:27,920
Speaker 2: of years to admire how well they've done in their

1086
00:59:27,960 --> 00:59:32,320
Speaker 2: passing games. But Greg McCrae for UCF, I know Durrell

1087
00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:36,000
Speaker 2: Henderson has been phenomenal for Memphis this season. And I

1088
00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:37,640
Speaker 2: think they had two guys go over one hundred yards

1089
00:59:37,720 --> 00:59:40,240
Speaker 2: last week. Memphis did and they went over Houston dealing

1090
00:59:40,280 --> 00:59:43,680
Speaker 2: with their own quarterback issue, and Deeric King, yeah it

1091
00:59:43,760 --> 00:59:46,120
Speaker 2: was I think Pat Taylor also went over one hundred yards,

1092
00:59:46,160 --> 00:59:49,520
Speaker 2: but I might be mistaken. I really really am looking

1093
00:59:49,520 --> 00:59:52,240
Speaker 2: forward to this game. There is something that to me

1094
00:59:52,400 --> 00:59:56,200
Speaker 2: is in the unknown about what UCF is going to

1095
00:59:56,240 --> 00:59:58,400
Speaker 2: look like, because I think it's Dariel Mack, who has

1096
00:59:58,440 --> 01:00:02,160
Speaker 2: come in in relief of mcken's Milton because of suspension

1097
01:00:02,240 --> 01:00:05,320
Speaker 2: and injury and clean up time, that he is a

1098
01:00:05,480 --> 01:00:06,880
Speaker 2: different type of player.

1099
01:00:06,960 --> 01:00:07,240
Speaker 1: He is.

1100
01:00:07,600 --> 01:00:11,400
Speaker 2: He's a lot bigger, and he is a more powerful

1101
01:00:11,480 --> 01:00:14,800
Speaker 2: runner and can sort of launch deep with his legs,

1102
01:00:14,800 --> 01:00:17,160
Speaker 2: if that makes any sense. That's not real English. So

1103
01:00:17,680 --> 01:00:19,479
Speaker 2: I am curious to see how U seef game plans

1104
01:00:19,480 --> 01:00:21,680
Speaker 2: against this Memphis team. And UCF defense is better than

1105
01:00:21,680 --> 01:00:24,000
Speaker 2: it was it is last year. It is. You're right,

1106
01:00:24,280 --> 01:00:25,920
Speaker 2: I am looking forward to this. I'm actually going to

1107
01:00:26,000 --> 01:00:28,640
Speaker 2: go with UCF two to win a weird game at

1108
01:00:28,680 --> 01:00:30,200
Speaker 2: home and finish the season undefeated.

1109
01:00:30,880 --> 01:00:33,760
Speaker 1: And finally, Saturday is seven forty five. It's the Mountain

1110
01:00:33,760 --> 01:00:38,000
Speaker 1: West Championship game on ESPN. Fresno State ten and two

1111
01:00:38,280 --> 01:00:41,880
Speaker 1: at Boise State, also ten and two. The Broncos a

1112
01:00:42,120 --> 01:00:44,680
Speaker 1: two and a half point favorite. They played three weeks ago.

1113
01:00:44,760 --> 01:00:49,240
Speaker 1: Boise won by seven. I again will go with the

1114
01:00:49,280 --> 01:00:52,920
Speaker 1: Broncos here. They're playing at home. I like their veteran

1115
01:00:53,000 --> 01:00:56,920
Speaker 1: leadership with Brett Rippon at the Helm close game, I

1116
01:00:56,920 --> 01:00:59,160
Speaker 1: think they win by a field goal. Wouldn't want to

1117
01:00:59,200 --> 01:01:01,520
Speaker 1: bet the spread with any money on the line, But

1118
01:01:02,000 --> 01:01:04,280
Speaker 1: if I'm forced to pick, I go Boise stay at home.

1119
01:01:04,680 --> 01:01:06,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, Boise has the better or at least the more

1120
01:01:06,840 --> 01:01:10,040
Speaker 2: efficient offense. Fresno has had a defense these past couple

1121
01:01:10,040 --> 01:01:12,080
Speaker 2: of years that has been nothing short of incredible in

1122
01:01:12,120 --> 01:01:14,440
Speaker 2: the Mountain West. But I think I'm going with Boise

1123
01:01:14,760 --> 01:01:18,040
Speaker 2: as well here. I think they're super well coached. They

1124
01:01:18,040 --> 01:01:21,200
Speaker 2: don't make mistakes, still fumble out ball, they don't really don't.

1125
01:01:21,880 --> 01:01:23,760
Speaker 2: If you beat Poise, you have to earn it, and

1126
01:01:23,760 --> 01:01:27,520
Speaker 2: that's fine teams have. But at home on the turf,

1127
01:01:27,760 --> 01:01:30,400
Speaker 2: it's going to be cold. I am just I'm going

1128
01:01:30,400 --> 01:01:32,600
Speaker 2: with the Broncos here. I'm going with Madison Avenue. I

1129
01:01:32,680 --> 01:01:35,640
Speaker 2: like their experience out wide on offense, so yeah, I'm

1130
01:01:35,640 --> 01:01:38,440
Speaker 2: going with uh Well, with the Broncos and Brian Harson.

1131
01:01:38,800 --> 01:01:41,840
Speaker 1: All Right, some other quick mentions that we should point out.

1132
01:01:41,880 --> 01:01:45,200
Speaker 1: There are teams still playing their regular season if you will,

1133
01:01:45,920 --> 01:01:50,960
Speaker 1: Saturday at high noon, it's the Drake Bulldogs at Iowa State.

1134
01:01:51,040 --> 01:01:53,439
Speaker 2: Iowa State a forty two and a half point favorite, here.

1135
01:01:54,600 --> 01:01:56,840
Speaker 2: That's a lot of points. The question of lines.

1136
01:01:57,360 --> 01:02:02,840
Speaker 1: Can Iowa State stop Steve Dory and Steve dor In

1137
01:02:02,920 --> 01:02:07,560
Speaker 1: the Explorer with nine hundred and eighteen receiving yards averaging

1138
01:02:07,880 --> 01:02:10,440
Speaker 1: almost eighteen yards per catches twelve touchdowns.

1139
01:02:10,880 --> 01:02:14,840
Speaker 2: Does Matt Campbell have a Steve Doran problem? Oh yeah,

1140
01:02:14,840 --> 01:02:18,360
Speaker 2: everybody has a The Drake Bulldogs come on. I always

1141
01:02:18,360 --> 01:02:19,480
Speaker 2: say it's gonna be to my fifty.

1142
01:02:20,080 --> 01:02:23,920
Speaker 1: Also, high noon ECU at NC State. NC State favored

1143
01:02:23,920 --> 01:02:27,280
Speaker 1: by twenty four. We've got Akron at South Carolina. Also

1144
01:02:27,320 --> 01:02:29,800
Speaker 1: at high noon, South Carolina favored by twenty eight and

1145
01:02:29,840 --> 01:02:33,880
Speaker 1: a half. We've got Marshall at Virginia Tech the hook.

1146
01:02:33,920 --> 01:02:35,440
Speaker 1: He's a four and a half point favorite.

1147
01:02:35,440 --> 01:02:38,360
Speaker 2: They need that. Marshall's come on pretty strong ball eligible right.

1148
01:02:38,920 --> 01:02:42,280
Speaker 1: And finally, Saturday at three pm, we've got Stanford minus

1149
01:02:42,280 --> 01:02:44,640
Speaker 1: two on the road against Cal.

1150
01:02:44,720 --> 01:02:48,800
Speaker 2: Good Cal defense. I love, I really do. I love Cal.

1151
01:02:48,840 --> 01:02:51,320
Speaker 2: Here Stanford on the road. They're at UCLA. I mean

1152
01:02:51,440 --> 01:02:54,440
Speaker 2: it's not that far away Berkeley from Palo Alto. But

1153
01:02:54,880 --> 01:02:58,000
Speaker 2: good defense at home in a rivalry game as dogs,

1154
01:02:58,200 --> 01:03:02,720
Speaker 2: gimme Cal. Probably they played defense. It's strange to say

1155
01:03:02,760 --> 01:03:06,080
Speaker 2: it in twenty eighteen. Col plays defense probably better than

1156
01:03:06,080 --> 01:03:08,480
Speaker 2: any other Pac twelve team does anything.

1157
01:03:08,640 --> 01:03:12,080
Speaker 1: I was on one of the sites, I forget which one,

1158
01:03:12,680 --> 01:03:16,280
Speaker 1: and there was a typo that had col By forty

1159
01:03:16,280 --> 01:03:17,400
Speaker 1: two points in this game.

1160
01:03:17,920 --> 01:03:19,960
Speaker 2: I love, let's take it. And I may or may

1161
01:03:19,960 --> 01:03:21,760
Speaker 2: not have gone out to somebody knows something.

1162
01:03:21,880 --> 01:03:24,240
Speaker 1: I may or may not have gone out to a website,

1163
01:03:24,280 --> 01:03:27,760
Speaker 1: an unnamed website that is not a sponsor, to see

1164
01:03:27,760 --> 01:03:29,200
Speaker 1: if I could lay some money on that.

1165
01:03:29,280 --> 01:03:32,280
Speaker 2: But a couple of shekels. Suffice to say that was

1166
01:03:32,320 --> 01:03:34,680
Speaker 2: not the correct point spread. That's all I got.

1167
01:03:34,760 --> 01:03:37,800
Speaker 1: Dan, a relatively light lift this week in the world

1168
01:03:37,800 --> 01:03:40,480
Speaker 1: of college football, at least as it relates to games

1169
01:03:40,520 --> 01:03:41,000
Speaker 1: on the field.

1170
01:03:41,800 --> 01:03:43,480
Speaker 2: That's not all you got Ty. That was an out

1171
01:03:43,480 --> 01:03:46,200
Speaker 2: and out lie. I have a request, and I know

1172
01:03:46,240 --> 01:03:49,280
Speaker 2: you're gonna fulfill it. Please drop, hopefully not for the

1173
01:03:49,360 --> 01:03:57,600
Speaker 2: last time this season. That big, stanky, scintillating see through

1174
01:03:58,320 --> 01:03:59,440
Speaker 2: drum man.

1175
01:04:03,040 --> 01:04:05,960
Speaker 1: But now we've got the Colgate fight song that we're

1176
01:04:06,000 --> 01:04:09,840
Speaker 1: mixing in here. Dan, it's SCS playoff time. Dan, Talk

1177
01:04:09,920 --> 01:04:11,080
Speaker 1: to me, Talk to me, Talk to me.

1178
01:04:11,560 --> 01:04:13,840
Speaker 2: A lot of people loving the Dukes of James Madison

1179
01:04:13,960 --> 01:04:15,920
Speaker 2: on the road. Favored by what a point and a

1180
01:04:16,000 --> 01:04:19,680
Speaker 2: half a point and a half, losing their coach to Charlotte.

1181
01:04:19,720 --> 01:04:21,720
Speaker 2: I imagine he's going to coach throughout the season, but

1182
01:04:21,760 --> 01:04:24,720
Speaker 2: I don't know. I have not looked up Mike Houston's itinerary.

1183
01:04:24,920 --> 01:04:31,400
Speaker 2: So James Madison starting quarterback Ben Denucci, Panther Pitt in December,

1184
01:04:31,440 --> 01:04:34,880
Speaker 2: all over the place. They are good. They're good. They

1185
01:04:34,880 --> 01:04:37,520
Speaker 2: have a common opponent in New Hampshire. I believe JMU

1186
01:04:37,600 --> 01:04:41,120
Speaker 2: lost little team in the Colgate Raiders did beat the

1187
01:04:41,160 --> 01:04:44,680
Speaker 2: Wildcats of New Hampshire. These are these are facts only, Ty.

1188
01:04:44,760 --> 01:04:46,800
Speaker 2: You don't just go into andy Kerr Stadium with the

1189
01:04:46,880 --> 01:04:48,840
Speaker 2: lost New Hampshire the hornet back nest.

1190
01:04:48,920 --> 01:04:51,880
Speaker 1: That is andy Kerr freaking Stadium.

1191
01:04:52,480 --> 01:04:55,480
Speaker 2: They have actually played in the FCS playoffs in twenty fifteen.

1192
01:04:55,560 --> 01:04:58,560
Speaker 2: Colgate had the same starting running back in Big Jim Holland.

1193
01:05:00,160 --> 01:05:02,320
Speaker 2: Jamu does a great job against thrown colegate, has run

1194
01:05:02,360 --> 01:05:04,760
Speaker 2: the ball pretty well. James Holland had a huge game

1195
01:05:05,080 --> 01:05:07,480
Speaker 2: in twenty fifteen. So certainly a revenge spot for the

1196
01:05:07,560 --> 01:05:10,880
Speaker 2: Dukes as they march into Hamilton. Colgate has a chance

1197
01:05:10,960 --> 01:05:15,200
Speaker 2: to finish with the FCS scoring defense record set by

1198
01:05:15,200 --> 01:05:18,120
Speaker 2: South Carolina State in the late seventies. If they're able

1199
01:05:18,120 --> 01:05:21,479
Speaker 2: to hold down James Madison. I cannot, for the life

1200
01:05:21,520 --> 01:05:27,040
Speaker 2: of me wonder why anybody would take a defense like

1201
01:05:27,160 --> 01:05:30,920
Speaker 2: this or bet against a defense like this at home

1202
01:05:31,840 --> 01:05:35,560
Speaker 2: in the friendly Confines. Again, it's not a Hornets nets

1203
01:05:35,560 --> 01:05:39,320
Speaker 2: because that's multi sport field, thunder dome, thunder Alley. Oh yeah,

1204
01:05:39,360 --> 01:05:43,240
Speaker 2: that is Andy Kerr Stadium. I'm going with the Gators here.

1205
01:05:43,320 --> 01:05:45,000
Speaker 2: I think I have them winning by about eight points

1206
01:05:45,000 --> 01:05:48,919
Speaker 2: and moving on to No. It's going to be a problem,

1207
01:05:48,920 --> 01:05:50,960
Speaker 2: will be tough at North Dakota State, It's going to

1208
01:05:51,040 --> 01:05:52,800
Speaker 2: be tough, but I have Colgate here.

1209
01:05:52,960 --> 01:05:55,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm worried that James Madison feels slighted by their

1210
01:05:55,760 --> 01:06:00,800
Speaker 1: seating could be and that the disrespect could fuel a

1211
01:06:00,840 --> 01:06:02,920
Speaker 1: deep run into this tournament. But then you've got that

1212
01:06:03,000 --> 01:06:06,640
Speaker 1: distraction element of their head coach leaving for Charlotte and

1213
01:06:06,680 --> 01:06:07,840
Speaker 1: Ben Denucci.

1214
01:06:07,360 --> 01:06:08,160
Speaker 2: A mobile guy.

1215
01:06:08,360 --> 01:06:13,600
Speaker 1: Can he open up the playbook against a fast, swarming defense. Yep,

1216
01:06:14,280 --> 01:06:16,440
Speaker 1: you mentioned JMU has some history in this tournament. They're

1217
01:06:16,440 --> 01:06:20,080
Speaker 1: a formidable opponent for our Colgate Raiders. But there is

1218
01:06:20,160 --> 01:06:23,560
Speaker 1: a reason that the over under is thirty four and

1219
01:06:23,680 --> 01:06:28,960
Speaker 1: one half points. That's because Colgate's defense. They're mobile, they're agile,

1220
01:06:29,000 --> 01:06:32,160
Speaker 1: they're hostile. They're at home. They're the Yako's home dog

1221
01:06:32,200 --> 01:06:32,600
Speaker 1: of the week.

1222
01:06:34,200 --> 01:06:38,080
Speaker 2: I like that. I have to Beyakos home dog of

1223
01:06:38,120 --> 01:06:38,520
Speaker 2: the week.

1224
01:06:40,480 --> 01:06:43,480
Speaker 1: They're in Andy Kerr Stadium. They don't play that Frew

1225
01:06:43,600 --> 01:06:46,760
Speaker 1: Freugh football. They want to kick and gouge. They want

1226
01:06:46,760 --> 01:06:47,840
Speaker 1: to get down in the mud and.

1227
01:06:47,800 --> 01:06:48,640
Speaker 2: The blood and the beer.

1228
01:06:48,680 --> 01:06:52,640
Speaker 1: Give me Colgate here waking up the echoes of Andy

1229
01:06:52,720 --> 01:06:56,120
Speaker 1: Kerr's legendary nine wins season back in nineteen thirty two.

1230
01:06:56,560 --> 01:06:58,760
Speaker 2: Did you also look up Andy Kerr on Wikipedia because

1231
01:06:58,920 --> 01:07:02,600
Speaker 2: he got a weird coaching a very weird coaching career, Dan, Yeah,

1232
01:07:02,600 --> 01:07:05,120
Speaker 2: he played coached basketball, he coached track and field. He

1233
01:07:05,160 --> 01:07:10,080
Speaker 2: was all over the place, but up north. Yeah, that's true. Also,

1234
01:07:10,200 --> 01:07:12,480
Speaker 2: this game is on It's on the ESPN app, it's

1235
01:07:12,480 --> 01:07:14,880
Speaker 2: on the ESPN three three and whatever. Yeah. I don't

1236
01:07:14,880 --> 01:07:16,919
Speaker 2: think it's plus. I think it's available to everybody right

1237
01:07:17,000 --> 01:07:21,800
Speaker 2: as correct. So if and it's possible, if Oklahoma Texas

1238
01:07:21,880 --> 01:07:24,439
Speaker 2: is bad or a blowout or something like that. At noon,

1239
01:07:25,240 --> 01:07:28,040
Speaker 2: there's only one option. Once one o'clock rolls around, we're

1240
01:07:28,040 --> 01:07:30,960
Speaker 2: in on this game, JMU Colgate, this might be the

1241
01:07:31,040 --> 01:07:34,280
Speaker 2: volume game. Dan, I'm not going to lie. I'd well ty,

1242
01:07:35,040 --> 01:07:38,120
Speaker 2: I have no argument against it. I am going Colgate

1243
01:07:38,120 --> 01:07:41,960
Speaker 2: here outright. A close dogfight. They almost covered against Army.

1244
01:07:42,160 --> 01:07:47,920
Speaker 2: They were right there nineteen to seventeen. Okay, get weird.

1245
01:07:48,280 --> 01:07:50,000
Speaker 2: You want to answer some questions real quick before we

1246
01:07:50,040 --> 01:07:51,640
Speaker 2: go away. We should do that.

1247
01:07:51,840 --> 01:07:55,960
Speaker 1: So we did ask four questions which people wrote into

1248
01:07:56,800 --> 01:08:00,919
Speaker 1: the inbox silverable at gmail dot com. They posted them

1249
01:08:00,920 --> 01:08:04,640
Speaker 1: on Reddit, on Facebook, on Twitter, pretty much anywhere you

1250
01:08:04,680 --> 01:08:07,640
Speaker 1: can find us. We got questions, loads of them, Dan,

1251
01:08:07,720 --> 01:08:09,720
Speaker 1: you went through, you picked out some of the ones

1252
01:08:09,760 --> 01:08:12,560
Speaker 1: that we thought were the strongest. So we got some

1253
01:08:12,640 --> 01:08:15,880
Speaker 1: extra time here at the end of the season. Again,

1254
01:08:15,920 --> 01:08:17,920
Speaker 1: don't forget to call in at four o eight verbal

1255
01:08:17,960 --> 01:08:20,920
Speaker 1: one this weekend. Let us know your your your thoughts

1256
01:08:20,960 --> 01:08:23,719
Speaker 1: as you're watching all these conference championship games take place.

1257
01:08:24,560 --> 01:08:26,200
Speaker 1: But we did get questions here and we want to

1258
01:08:26,200 --> 01:08:27,639
Speaker 1: answer them. So where do we want to start?

1259
01:08:27,840 --> 01:08:30,599
Speaker 2: We did always it always happens, TI. I was very specific.

1260
01:08:30,600 --> 01:08:32,400
Speaker 2: I said, hey, you have any questions about the regular

1261
01:08:32,400 --> 01:08:36,200
Speaker 2: season or postseason, and like clockwork, it was Hey, So

1262
01:08:36,320 --> 01:08:42,240
Speaker 2: which root vegetable most closely aligns with mac special teams coordinators.

1263
01:08:42,880 --> 01:08:48,360
Speaker 2: Who's your twenty twenty five top four? Right, let's move

1264
01:08:48,360 --> 01:08:51,080
Speaker 2: past that because it's just regular season and postseason questions.

1265
01:08:51,080 --> 01:08:53,519
Speaker 2: We're going to try to stay on topic here, So

1266
01:08:54,840 --> 01:08:59,479
Speaker 2: let's go to we answered that question. Okay, we had

1267
01:08:59,479 --> 01:09:01,960
Speaker 2: a couple people ask about Michigan and their ceiling after

1268
01:09:02,320 --> 01:09:05,200
Speaker 2: the Ohio State blowout. So as long as Urban is

1269
01:09:05,240 --> 01:09:08,559
Speaker 2: at Ohio State, asks long, dear dear friend, Abbot Skelding

1270
01:09:08,960 --> 01:09:11,000
Speaker 2: is eleven and one the best Jim Harbaugh can do

1271
01:09:11,040 --> 01:09:14,400
Speaker 2: at Michigan, is there any reason to hope for the future?

1272
01:09:14,560 --> 01:09:14,840
Speaker 1: Wow?

1273
01:09:15,000 --> 01:09:18,719
Speaker 2: Or anyways? And for hope for the future for Wolverine fans,

1274
01:09:18,760 --> 01:09:21,200
Speaker 2: where's Michigan go from here? Jason also wants to know

1275
01:09:21,280 --> 01:09:26,400
Speaker 2: have they reached their ceiling? Okay, they could potentially only

1276
01:09:26,479 --> 01:09:27,960
Speaker 2: lose to two playoff teams.

1277
01:09:28,200 --> 01:09:32,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I understand the argument. I understand how it feels

1278
01:09:32,080 --> 01:09:34,519
Speaker 1: to be a fan of a team that we.

1279
01:09:34,560 --> 01:09:35,880
Speaker 2: Want to break through. Is right?

1280
01:09:35,960 --> 01:09:39,400
Speaker 1: Is falling short of expectations? I don't think it's fair.

1281
01:09:40,040 --> 01:09:43,719
Speaker 1: Ohio State and Urban Meyer had a ton of momentum.

1282
01:09:43,800 --> 01:09:46,360
Speaker 1: I'll come back to this momentum thing that I talked

1283
01:09:46,360 --> 01:09:50,080
Speaker 1: about when we broke down Mac Brown and Nick Saban, Right,

1284
01:09:51,439 --> 01:09:55,000
Speaker 1: Urban Meyer had a ton of momentum before Jim Harball

1285
01:09:55,080 --> 01:09:59,000
Speaker 1: got there four years ago. The gap between these two

1286
01:09:59,040 --> 01:10:02,639
Speaker 1: programs was much much wider than it is now because

1287
01:10:02,640 --> 01:10:05,360
Speaker 1: they were starting from two different points.

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Speaker 2: And like ten years before that as well.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, sure, Harbaugh has narrowed that gap significantly to the

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01:10:11,040 --> 01:10:15,640
Speaker 1: point where they were, what a three point favorite on

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01:10:15,760 --> 01:10:19,160
Speaker 1: the road in Columbus. It didn't work out, but still

1292
01:10:19,760 --> 01:10:22,320
Speaker 1: the gap has been narrowed to the point where they're

1293
01:10:22,320 --> 01:10:26,240
Speaker 1: getting respect. I know it didn't show on Saturday. Things

1294
01:10:26,280 --> 01:10:29,000
Speaker 1: got a little bit weird, but the recruiting has been strong.

1295
01:10:29,479 --> 01:10:31,400
Speaker 1: This is still a better team than it was last

1296
01:10:31,439 --> 01:10:33,720
Speaker 1: year in the year before. It may never get to

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Speaker 1: a point where you're dominating Ohio State year and in

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01:10:36,200 --> 01:10:39,040
Speaker 1: year out, but the day is coming when Michigan wins

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Speaker 1: one of these.

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Speaker 2: One. I think that's all fair. Well. First of all,

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Speaker 2: the beginning of his question was, as long as Urban

1302
01:10:47,760 --> 01:10:49,840
Speaker 2: is at Ohio State, I don't know how long that is,

1303
01:10:50,640 --> 01:10:53,120
Speaker 2: do you know? It could be? It could be could

1304
01:10:53,160 --> 01:10:58,280
Speaker 2: be three weeks. Yeah, yeah, so yes, I think Michigan

1305
01:10:58,439 --> 01:11:01,280
Speaker 2: right now has a ceiling if they are playing as

1306
01:11:01,280 --> 01:11:04,640
Speaker 2: stubbornly on offense, you know, defensively, yes they did not

1307
01:11:04,800 --> 01:11:07,880
Speaker 2: adjust and or no, they did not adjust and they

1308
01:11:07,920 --> 01:11:10,000
Speaker 2: had issues against Ohio State. There is still a ten

1309
01:11:10,040 --> 01:11:12,000
Speaker 2: and two team that could go eleven in two with

1310
01:11:12,280 --> 01:11:15,200
Speaker 2: a New Year's Day Bowl game, New Year six Bowl game.

1311
01:11:16,360 --> 01:11:20,000
Speaker 2: Appreciate where you are. It has been worse. I understand

1312
01:11:20,040 --> 01:11:22,799
Speaker 2: you want to break through against Ohio State. I believe

1313
01:11:22,840 --> 01:11:25,200
Speaker 2: in that ability given what their lines have looked like

1314
01:11:25,240 --> 01:11:27,280
Speaker 2: these past well at least this year, with the offensive

1315
01:11:27,280 --> 01:11:30,920
Speaker 2: line improvement and defensively they are quite sound. That Notre

1316
01:11:31,000 --> 01:11:35,360
Speaker 2: Dame game was at times within their grasp and they

1317
01:11:35,360 --> 01:11:40,640
Speaker 2: didn't lose to anybody inferior, clearly inferior, which is basically

1318
01:11:40,680 --> 01:11:45,240
Speaker 2: what seven teams can say every year. Yeah, so Michigan's

1319
01:11:45,280 --> 01:11:47,760
Speaker 2: in a good place. They will break through. They need

1320
01:11:47,800 --> 01:11:50,599
Speaker 2: to get more creative on offense. I believe they will.

1321
01:11:51,000 --> 01:11:53,479
Speaker 2: The issue for me is this only says as long

1322
01:11:53,520 --> 01:11:56,280
Speaker 2: as Urban Meyers at Ohio State. I don't think Jim

1323
01:11:56,280 --> 01:11:59,120
Speaker 2: Harball's a life for at Michigan. No. I think I

1324
01:11:59,160 --> 01:12:01,080
Speaker 2: think Jim Harball with in the next three or four years,

1325
01:12:01,120 --> 01:12:04,800
Speaker 2: we're back in the NFL. So the window is closing

1326
01:12:04,880 --> 01:12:07,439
Speaker 2: for Harbaugh, but even in that window, I think he

1327
01:12:07,479 --> 01:12:11,719
Speaker 2: can win. Shiagre absolutely and Dwayne Haskins could leave after

1328
01:12:11,760 --> 01:12:14,720
Speaker 2: this season and they might not be as good at quarterback.

1329
01:12:15,160 --> 01:12:18,720
Speaker 2: They are within striking distance of beating Ohio State by

1330
01:12:18,760 --> 01:12:21,040
Speaker 2: ten to fourteen. All right, where do we want to

1331
01:12:21,080 --> 01:12:24,800
Speaker 2: go next? Let's go to I really like this question

1332
01:12:24,840 --> 01:12:28,240
Speaker 2: just because it had a good pun Which non bowl

1333
01:12:28,280 --> 01:12:31,400
Speaker 2: teams would make for the best game. So teams with

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01:12:31,439 --> 01:12:35,639
Speaker 2: five or fewer wins, and it's called the ineligible non

1335
01:12:35,720 --> 01:12:39,200
Speaker 2: bowl teams? H Yes, okay, So you have any thoughts

1336
01:12:39,200 --> 01:12:41,000
Speaker 2: here off the top of your head, I would say

1337
01:12:41,040 --> 01:12:44,599
Speaker 2: Nebraska Arizona would be my pick. Nebraska. I want quarterback play.

1338
01:12:44,720 --> 01:12:47,839
Speaker 2: I love watching JJ Taylor, I love what Nebraska's offenses

1339
01:12:47,880 --> 01:12:50,000
Speaker 2: looked like the back half of the season, A team

1340
01:12:50,040 --> 01:12:53,960
Speaker 2: that was in striking distance of Ohio State. Nebraska Arizona

1341
01:12:54,040 --> 01:12:58,599
Speaker 2: is probably my answer. Do you have an ineligible Yeah?

1342
01:12:58,600 --> 01:13:00,280
Speaker 1: So I don't have a good answer for this one

1343
01:13:00,360 --> 01:13:03,479
Speaker 1: outside of Nebraska because of the way that Nebraska has

1344
01:13:03,520 --> 01:13:05,719
Speaker 1: come on down the stretch.

1345
01:13:06,960 --> 01:13:12,519
Speaker 2: USC just for weirdness and ulton, yeah, USC would be

1346
01:13:12,640 --> 01:13:16,439
Speaker 2: very very weird. You sel came on strong. How about

1347
01:13:16,479 --> 01:13:18,479
Speaker 2: like the chip Kelly Scott Frost game. The chip Kelly

1348
01:13:18,479 --> 01:13:20,640
Speaker 2: Scott Frost game. Yeah, let's go with that. Yeah. I

1349
01:13:20,640 --> 01:13:22,479
Speaker 2: would say SMU is another one of those teams that

1350
01:13:22,720 --> 01:13:25,360
Speaker 2: could be entertained. Yeah. I don't have a great answer here.

1351
01:13:25,520 --> 01:13:28,800
Speaker 2: It's okay, who made the worst higher? North Carolina or

1352
01:13:28,880 --> 01:13:32,519
Speaker 2: Kansas from a football perspective only? Obviously Kansas had a

1353
01:13:32,520 --> 01:13:36,000
Speaker 2: grand slam in hiring less Miles for entertainment purposes, right,

1354
01:13:36,479 --> 01:13:40,280
Speaker 2: So the question is the worst football higher? Yes, who

1355
01:13:40,320 --> 01:13:45,960
Speaker 2: from a football perspective will be a bigger mess because

1356
01:13:46,000 --> 01:13:48,760
Speaker 2: of their influence. Mac Brown, like you said, has a

1357
01:13:48,800 --> 01:13:50,599
Speaker 2: higher floor. I think that's right.

1358
01:13:51,200 --> 01:13:55,120
Speaker 1: I think mac Brown is a higher floor. He's going

1359
01:13:55,200 --> 01:13:59,000
Speaker 1: to be able to hire really good assistance that can

1360
01:13:59,000 --> 01:14:02,040
Speaker 1: get that program started a lot sooner than what we

1361
01:14:02,040 --> 01:14:05,240
Speaker 1: see at Kansas. Kansas needs a full reboot, a full rebuild.

1362
01:14:05,880 --> 01:14:10,479
Speaker 1: Less Miles is entertaining, but that has more potential to

1363
01:14:10,520 --> 01:14:13,679
Speaker 1: be a mess than anything at UNC.

1364
01:14:13,840 --> 01:14:17,360
Speaker 2: So the answer is probably less Miles at Kansas. I

1365
01:14:17,360 --> 01:14:20,160
Speaker 2: think that's I think. I agree this was a really

1366
01:14:20,160 --> 01:14:23,920
Speaker 2: good question and sobering. I would say I think it's

1367
01:14:23,920 --> 01:14:27,000
Speaker 2: from a Florida State fan who was asking us what

1368
01:14:27,040 --> 01:14:29,599
Speaker 2: he should do with all of this newfound free time,

1369
01:14:30,120 --> 01:14:34,080
Speaker 2: not thinking basically about Florida State in a bowl. How

1370
01:14:34,320 --> 01:14:36,960
Speaker 2: should a Florida State fan who will not be watching

1371
01:14:37,000 --> 01:14:40,160
Speaker 2: bowl season, what should he do with himself during ball season.

1372
01:14:41,280 --> 01:14:43,240
Speaker 2: It's kind of liberating to not have a true rooting

1373
01:14:43,400 --> 01:14:46,400
Speaker 2: yes during bull season. So I'll keep it simple. Fill

1374
01:14:46,439 --> 01:14:49,280
Speaker 2: out a bullpool. He's a thirty five year old male.

1375
01:14:49,640 --> 01:14:50,680
Speaker 2: That's all I know about him.

1376
01:14:50,720 --> 01:14:54,000
Speaker 1: Good for you, congratulations, fill out, fill out a bullpool.

1377
01:14:54,040 --> 01:14:55,720
Speaker 1: We're going to have one here, as we always do.

1378
01:14:56,479 --> 01:15:00,240
Speaker 1: Follow along when you can listen to the podcast and

1379
01:15:01,880 --> 01:15:05,360
Speaker 1: enjoy what it feels like to not have that burden.

1380
01:15:05,479 --> 01:15:07,680
Speaker 2: That was a good abstract answer. I'm going to give

1381
01:15:07,760 --> 01:15:10,840
Speaker 2: him a concrete plan for December in early January. Oh

1382
01:15:10,920 --> 01:15:13,880
Speaker 2: do it please get really good at cooking something you've

1383
01:15:13,920 --> 01:15:16,799
Speaker 2: been meaning to cook, whether it's become a breakfast expert.

1384
01:15:16,800 --> 01:15:18,559
Speaker 2: I'm saying, a lot of work, shopping tie you want

1385
01:15:18,600 --> 01:15:21,719
Speaker 2: to get better at cookies, workshop a bunch of cookies.

1386
01:15:21,760 --> 01:15:23,559
Speaker 2: You want to get better at soups. Make a bunch

1387
01:15:23,600 --> 01:15:27,800
Speaker 2: of star wear an apron. Yeah, do do protect your clothes? Sure,

1388
01:15:28,200 --> 01:15:32,400
Speaker 2: I will say become an expert at something culinarily. And also,

1389
01:15:32,640 --> 01:15:34,840
Speaker 2: if you're a skinny dude, get a little more jacked.

1390
01:15:35,040 --> 01:15:37,040
Speaker 2: Work on your arms, work on your shoulders, work on

1391
01:15:37,080 --> 01:15:40,040
Speaker 2: your core. If you're a larger dude, nothing wrong with that,

1392
01:15:40,439 --> 01:15:42,920
Speaker 2: maybe cut some carbs and just like, oh, this is

1393
01:15:42,960 --> 01:15:45,559
Speaker 2: gonna be a healthy December. It's the holidays. I'm going

1394
01:15:45,600 --> 01:15:47,439
Speaker 2: to I'm gonna get a little leaner, I'm gonna wor

1395
01:15:47,439 --> 01:15:49,719
Speaker 2: out a little more. I'm gonna do some cardio. Figure

1396
01:15:49,720 --> 01:15:53,280
Speaker 2: out a project to both better your stomach and worse

1397
01:15:53,320 --> 01:15:57,559
Speaker 2: than your stomach. I guess here we go this. I

1398
01:15:57,600 --> 01:16:02,320
Speaker 2: love this question so much because obviously better conference Big

1399
01:16:02,360 --> 01:16:08,240
Speaker 2: twelve or the American with Texas and or Oklahoma. I'm

1400
01:16:08,280 --> 01:16:10,320
Speaker 2: thinking this obviously is not the season. I'm thinking the

1401
01:16:10,360 --> 01:16:13,720
Speaker 2: Americans should make a play for Texas because Texas has

1402
01:16:13,760 --> 01:16:19,920
Speaker 2: its own lucrative TV deal hashtag power six. Brad Okay,

1403
01:16:21,040 --> 01:16:22,800
Speaker 2: Texas is not going to the America. Texas is not

1404
01:16:22,840 --> 01:16:25,559
Speaker 2: going to the American and it's not I like watching

1405
01:16:25,560 --> 01:16:29,920
Speaker 2: the American very much, but Texas won't make that much

1406
01:16:30,000 --> 01:16:32,960
Speaker 2: money with their TV deal and the American and also

1407
01:16:33,520 --> 01:16:36,600
Speaker 2: Texas plays big games at Oklahoma and Oklahoma State and

1408
01:16:36,640 --> 01:16:39,599
Speaker 2: Texas Tech and TCU, and you go to the American

1409
01:16:39,640 --> 01:16:42,559
Speaker 2: and there's all sorts of interesting teams play in front

1410
01:16:42,560 --> 01:16:46,200
Speaker 2: of twenty five thousand people. It's a tougher ask to

1411
01:16:46,360 --> 01:16:49,800
Speaker 2: ask a team to take a pretty big step down

1412
01:16:49,920 --> 01:16:52,240
Speaker 2: in terms of platform. This is one of those. This

1413
01:16:52,280 --> 01:16:54,960
Speaker 2: is one of those Reddit questions like yes, would you

1414
01:16:55,080 --> 01:16:57,920
Speaker 2: rather have one oh duck?

1415
01:16:58,160 --> 01:17:04,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, one one giant like Jadeveon Clowney sized ant or

1416
01:17:04,520 --> 01:17:08,479
Speaker 1: forty ant sized Jadeveon Clowney's Like no, The answer here

1417
01:17:08,520 --> 01:17:09,200
Speaker 1: is the Big twelve.

1418
01:17:09,520 --> 01:17:12,559
Speaker 2: Big twelve still the better conference. Anna wants to know

1419
01:17:12,640 --> 01:17:15,639
Speaker 2: which non quarterback player would you award the Heisman two?

1420
01:17:16,400 --> 01:17:20,960
Speaker 2: Some research about this non quarterback. Okay, so it's incredible

1421
01:17:20,960 --> 01:17:24,040
Speaker 2: to me that Jonathan Taylor tailback is still standing given

1422
01:17:24,080 --> 01:17:27,120
Speaker 2: what the offense around him and defense around him has

1423
01:17:27,200 --> 01:17:30,320
Speaker 2: looked like. So that would probably be my answer. Do

1424
01:17:30,360 --> 01:17:33,799
Speaker 2: you know who is leading college football in twenty plus

1425
01:17:33,920 --> 01:17:37,280
Speaker 2: yard plays all purpose or from scrimmage? I forget what

1426
01:17:37,320 --> 01:17:41,000
Speaker 2: the actual metric is, but some twenty plus yard play stats?

1427
01:17:41,160 --> 01:17:44,519
Speaker 1: Is it Rondelle Moore? It is Rondelle Moore, true freshman.

1428
01:17:45,240 --> 01:17:47,719
Speaker 1: I just in terms of being amazed by a player

1429
01:17:48,080 --> 01:17:50,639
Speaker 1: he is in that conversation for me, and his production

1430
01:17:50,800 --> 01:17:53,200
Speaker 1: puts him there as an all purpose player. I go

1431
01:17:53,720 --> 01:17:56,760
Speaker 1: Travis Etien from Clemson. I've been singing his praises for

1432
01:17:56,800 --> 01:17:59,840
Speaker 1: a while. I understand that I can't make a maybe

1433
01:17:59,840 --> 01:18:04,000
Speaker 1: not against He doesn't have the workload of Jonathan Taylor tailback,

1434
01:18:04,080 --> 01:18:07,080
Speaker 1: but he's been dominant every time he's gotten the football.

1435
01:18:07,360 --> 01:18:11,439
Speaker 2: Who is leading against Power five teams? Who is leading

1436
01:18:11,439 --> 01:18:13,519
Speaker 2: the nation and tackles for loss? So I was looking

1437
01:18:13,560 --> 01:18:18,719
Speaker 2: for like a Scooby Wright, Carl Naseib type player, somebody

1438
01:18:18,760 --> 01:18:21,559
Speaker 2: that has been Aaron Donald was super productive and tackles

1439
01:18:21,560 --> 01:18:25,479
Speaker 2: for lost against Power five teams. Who would be your guest? So,

1440
01:18:25,840 --> 01:18:29,640
Speaker 2: who has been a crazy disruptive defensive player on a

1441
01:18:29,680 --> 01:18:30,280
Speaker 2: Power five team.

1442
01:18:30,280 --> 01:18:33,160
Speaker 1: We're going to go you, Tor Gross Matos Why DM

1443
01:18:33,200 --> 01:18:34,000
Speaker 1: from Penn State?

1444
01:18:34,320 --> 01:18:38,640
Speaker 2: That's correct? Is he leading? He has seventeen and a

1445
01:18:38,680 --> 01:18:42,200
Speaker 2: half tackles for loss. I don't know how big he is,

1446
01:18:42,240 --> 01:18:44,639
Speaker 2: I don't know how fast he is, but he ends

1447
01:18:44,720 --> 01:18:49,200
Speaker 2: up ending offensive plays very often for negative yardage. All right,

1448
01:18:49,800 --> 01:18:51,920
Speaker 2: So that's your out of the box. And then Tylan

1449
01:18:51,960 --> 01:18:54,080
Speaker 2: Wallace for what he's done at Oklahoma state as an

1450
01:18:54,120 --> 01:18:57,840
Speaker 2: absolute dude, that would be another option for me. All right,

1451
01:18:58,120 --> 01:19:03,880
Speaker 2: let's go three more, couple more more estions. Yeah, let's

1452
01:19:03,880 --> 01:19:06,599
Speaker 2: go to Sean asked, this is wonderful, just wondering when

1453
01:19:06,600 --> 01:19:08,400
Speaker 2: you guys are talking about your favorite teams. So for

1454
01:19:08,479 --> 01:19:10,800
Speaker 2: me Oregon, by the way, this is Dan. I know

1455
01:19:10,880 --> 01:19:13,439
Speaker 2: sometimes we get people listening or like, wait, I thought

1456
01:19:13,640 --> 01:19:15,880
Speaker 2: each of you were each other. Yeah, no, it doesn't

1457
01:19:15,960 --> 01:19:18,400
Speaker 2: add We do get that a lot. So Sean wants

1458
01:19:18,439 --> 01:19:20,479
Speaker 2: to know when you guys are talking about your favorite teams. So,

1459
01:19:20,600 --> 01:19:23,559
Speaker 2: for myself Oregon and for Tie Notre Dame, how do

1460
01:19:23,600 --> 01:19:25,840
Speaker 2: you keep yourselves calm and professional when they are not

1461
01:19:26,000 --> 01:19:28,639
Speaker 2: playing up to standard? As a Tennessee fan, this would

1462
01:19:28,680 --> 01:19:32,720
Speaker 2: be very difficult for not to do. I envy you guys, Ty,

1463
01:19:33,200 --> 01:19:34,120
Speaker 2: how do you keep it together?

1464
01:19:34,600 --> 01:19:36,560
Speaker 1: We've been doing this show for ten years, you know,

1465
01:19:36,680 --> 01:19:38,840
Speaker 1: we have do in the show for a long time

1466
01:19:38,960 --> 01:19:41,600
Speaker 1: for little to no pay. I might add for a

1467
01:19:41,640 --> 01:19:47,080
Speaker 1: lot of it, we're very wealthy, hugely wealthy. Yeah, after

1468
01:19:47,120 --> 01:19:50,799
Speaker 1: a while, I don't want to say that my fandom

1469
01:19:50,800 --> 01:19:51,640
Speaker 1: has diminished.

1470
01:19:52,240 --> 01:19:54,960
Speaker 2: It changes, though, Yeah, it does change.

1471
01:19:55,000 --> 01:19:57,200
Speaker 1: You have to look at things from a little bit

1472
01:19:57,200 --> 01:20:00,479
Speaker 1: more of a balanced perspective. You just have to Otherwise

1473
01:20:00,520 --> 01:20:02,040
Speaker 1: you do the show and you get people yelling at

1474
01:20:02,040 --> 01:20:03,760
Speaker 1: you in a way that doesn't always feel great.

1475
01:20:03,920 --> 01:20:07,400
Speaker 2: So or you spike a cell phone, a cell.

1476
01:20:07,280 --> 01:20:09,200
Speaker 1: Phone, you know, I mean it's it starts to cost

1477
01:20:09,240 --> 01:20:12,640
Speaker 1: you real US American dollars, So, you know, I just

1478
01:20:12,680 --> 01:20:15,559
Speaker 1: think it's a first off, probably part of growing up.

1479
01:20:15,920 --> 01:20:18,479
Speaker 1: I'm not punching walls, just spiking those phones in the middle.

1480
01:20:18,240 --> 01:20:20,639
Speaker 2: Of the I was singing about exactly.

1481
01:20:21,360 --> 01:20:24,920
Speaker 1: But also, I think just through doing this show, we've

1482
01:20:25,000 --> 01:20:27,120
Speaker 1: learned to temper it a little bit, at least when

1483
01:20:27,160 --> 01:20:29,400
Speaker 1: we talk about it publicly. Now both of us have

1484
01:20:29,600 --> 01:20:33,040
Speaker 1: seen the other in a setting where we're watching our

1485
01:20:33,040 --> 01:20:40,080
Speaker 1: favorite teams play. Right, I've worried about your breathing. I

1486
01:20:40,080 --> 01:20:41,920
Speaker 1: get very quiet, which is unusual for me.

1487
01:20:41,960 --> 01:20:43,240
Speaker 2: I've worried about you breathing.

1488
01:20:44,040 --> 01:20:45,960
Speaker 1: I don't know if you've really ever seen me in

1489
01:20:46,040 --> 01:20:48,000
Speaker 1: true form watching a Notre Dame game, but.

1490
01:20:48,040 --> 01:20:50,720
Speaker 2: I saw you asleep during a National championship with Yeah.

1491
01:20:51,080 --> 01:20:55,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's not usually Okay, that's not usually my behavior.

1492
01:20:55,680 --> 01:20:58,760
Speaker 1: But it's not uncommon for me to be kind of

1493
01:20:58,800 --> 01:21:00,960
Speaker 1: curled up in a fetal position. And pounding on the

1494
01:21:01,000 --> 01:21:01,479
Speaker 1: floor in.

1495
01:21:01,400 --> 01:21:02,080
Speaker 2: Front of a TV.

1496
01:21:02,720 --> 01:21:04,840
Speaker 1: Even if I don't come across that active when I

1497
01:21:04,880 --> 01:21:06,200
Speaker 1: talk about it the next day.

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Speaker 2: What is what is the single notre dame occurrence action

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01:21:11,600 --> 01:21:15,559
Speaker 2: that drives you the baddiest? Like what is the most

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01:21:15,760 --> 01:21:18,639
Speaker 2: because this everybody has this for their team. Everybody hates,

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01:21:18,760 --> 01:21:20,720
Speaker 2: you know, a B or C, but everybody has that

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01:21:20,800 --> 01:21:21,360
Speaker 2: one thing.

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01:21:22,840 --> 01:21:26,720
Speaker 1: The one thing for me is, you know this could

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01:21:26,760 --> 01:21:31,559
Speaker 1: be for any team. A bad interception. Yep, A bad

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01:21:31,600 --> 01:21:35,360
Speaker 1: interception drives me nuts. That's you know, if I'm sitting

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01:21:35,400 --> 01:21:38,160
Speaker 1: and calm on the couch, even if the team's up

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01:21:38,200 --> 01:21:41,760
Speaker 1: by twenty one, the bad interception, that then we start

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01:21:41,760 --> 01:21:44,800
Speaker 1: pacing and we're pacing around, we're walking up and down

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01:21:44,800 --> 01:21:45,200
Speaker 1: the hallway.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I I don't know if I coined this. I

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01:21:48,160 --> 01:21:50,439
Speaker 2: probably didn't coin it, but I definitely embraced the idea

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01:21:50,439 --> 01:21:53,920
Speaker 2: of third Empellham that's right. I remember that. And so

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01:21:54,040 --> 01:21:57,639
Speaker 2: when Oregon was in and this is basically not answering

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01:21:57,640 --> 01:22:00,479
Speaker 2: his question. We're answering his question with like, oh, yeah,

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01:22:00,479 --> 01:22:05,360
Speaker 2: we're crazier than you think. When Oregon would have they'd

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01:22:05,400 --> 01:22:07,960
Speaker 2: force like a third and seventeen and all of the

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01:22:08,040 --> 01:22:12,799
Speaker 2: sudden bj Danker would run for nineteen with Oregon rushing three.

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01:22:12,920 --> 01:22:17,240
Speaker 2: That wasn't my favorite. Those weren't moments that I definitely appreciated.

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01:22:17,400 --> 01:22:19,439
Speaker 2: So even though we are able to talk about it

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01:22:19,479 --> 01:22:24,439
Speaker 2: with some perspective on this show, we still we still

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01:22:24,439 --> 01:22:26,479
Speaker 2: get worked up. I would say the reason we're able

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01:22:26,479 --> 01:22:31,320
Speaker 2: to keep ourselves relatively calm is we don't want to

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01:22:31,360 --> 01:22:35,920
Speaker 2: appear to We want to discuss our teams accurately, and

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01:22:35,960 --> 01:22:39,519
Speaker 2: so by dipping too far into a motion that takes

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01:22:39,560 --> 01:22:43,080
Speaker 2: away what little credibility we have left, which is not much.

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01:22:43,680 --> 01:22:46,519
Speaker 2: But if I talk about Oregon constantly in an angry way,

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01:22:46,600 --> 01:22:50,760
Speaker 2: or constantly in a rose colored way, then why would

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01:22:50,800 --> 01:22:54,840
Speaker 2: I be right about Washington or cal or Sandford USC so,

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01:22:55,120 --> 01:22:56,920
Speaker 2: And I think that's true for you too. You want

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01:22:56,960 --> 01:23:00,000
Speaker 2: to talk about Notre Dame pragmatically because you want people

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01:23:00,120 --> 01:23:03,560
Speaker 2: to think you think that way about all teams you discussed,

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01:23:03,600 --> 01:23:06,680
Speaker 2: And so that's why we fit into that specific rule.

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01:23:06,760 --> 01:23:11,439
Speaker 1: There's probably a tendency to overcompensate too, to the extent

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01:23:11,479 --> 01:23:16,639
Speaker 1: where we tamp down Organs or Notre Dames or Penn

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01:23:16,640 --> 01:23:21,559
Speaker 1: State's successes so as not to appear biased. Still, even

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01:23:21,600 --> 01:23:24,559
Speaker 1: if we do that, we get the emails, Oh you

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01:23:24,640 --> 01:23:27,400
Speaker 1: talk too much about whoever. Yeah, it's fine, but we

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01:23:27,439 --> 01:23:29,920
Speaker 1: do our best to try and try and be fair

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01:23:29,960 --> 01:23:30,439
Speaker 1: and balanced.

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01:23:30,439 --> 01:23:34,760
Speaker 2: Here we got a great question about TV networks and

1541
01:23:34,760 --> 01:23:36,680
Speaker 2: bidding for conference rights and where we think this is

1542
01:23:36,720 --> 01:23:39,000
Speaker 2: all going with Amazon getting involved. That will be an

1543
01:23:39,000 --> 01:23:42,840
Speaker 2: off season show. Yeah, we will do a show. Yeah, yes,

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01:23:44,760 --> 01:23:46,760
Speaker 2: I will answer this question quickly because I know you

1545
01:23:46,760 --> 01:23:49,120
Speaker 2: don't have an answer. This from Derek, what is the

1546
01:23:49,160 --> 01:23:51,600
Speaker 2: future of tacos? Okay, how do you plan to be

1547
01:23:51,600 --> 01:23:53,840
Speaker 2: a part of it? Not about the regular postseason, but

1548
01:23:54,000 --> 01:23:55,960
Speaker 2: he knows a way to sneak a question in. Yeah,

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01:23:56,000 --> 01:23:58,320
Speaker 2: he does know a way. The future of tacos is

1550
01:23:58,320 --> 01:24:02,240
Speaker 2: either making your own tortilla or salsa. Doesn't have to

1551
01:24:02,240 --> 01:24:05,760
Speaker 2: be both, but those are huge, huge difference makers. And

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01:24:05,840 --> 01:24:08,960
Speaker 2: I'm not even talking about people at home talking about

1553
01:24:09,000 --> 01:24:11,840
Speaker 2: restaurants that are, you know, making their own pizza dough,

1554
01:24:12,120 --> 01:24:14,080
Speaker 2: but they're not making tortillas. What are we doing? Let's

1555
01:24:14,080 --> 01:24:17,599
Speaker 2: get moving forward. Visionary taco consumer Dan rubistein one final

1556
01:24:17,720 --> 01:24:19,200
Speaker 2: So I make your own tortillas or make your own

1557
01:24:19,200 --> 01:24:21,040
Speaker 2: see me a strong question here to close it out.

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01:24:22,320 --> 01:24:26,360
Speaker 2: I mean this one's pretty loaded right here. We talked

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01:24:26,360 --> 01:24:31,599
Speaker 2: about the ineligiblel Okay, So this has sort of become

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01:24:31,600 --> 01:24:37,280
Speaker 2: a hot topic. Is defense dead? Is that comes to

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01:24:37,320 --> 01:24:39,400
Speaker 2: us from Frank. That's the loaded question because there are

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01:24:39,439 --> 01:24:41,640
Speaker 2: there's a short answer, there's a medium answer, there is

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01:24:41,680 --> 01:24:45,080
Speaker 2: a long winded answer. So people are starting to take

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01:24:45,080 --> 01:24:48,440
Speaker 2: this viewpoint because of changes in rules that give advantages

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01:24:48,439 --> 01:24:52,519
Speaker 2: to offenses, especially in the passing game with penalties, and

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01:24:53,600 --> 01:24:56,519
Speaker 2: with what the Big Twelve put forth in their headline

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01:24:56,560 --> 01:24:58,800
Speaker 2: Game of the Week with Oklahoma and West Virginia going

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01:24:59,120 --> 01:25:04,080
Speaker 2: fifty nine fifty was that the final yes? And what

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01:25:04,120 --> 01:25:06,120
Speaker 2: the Big twelve has looked like, even what the SEC

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01:25:06,200 --> 01:25:08,880
Speaker 2: has looked like at times seventy four to seventy two

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01:25:09,000 --> 01:25:13,080
Speaker 2: LSU Tech A and M and seven overtimes, what Pac

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01:25:13,160 --> 01:25:16,360
Speaker 2: twelve games have done in recent years with big quarterback

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01:25:16,400 --> 01:25:22,799
Speaker 2: play generating a ton of points? Is defense dead? No defenses? Defenses?

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01:25:23,040 --> 01:25:25,200
Speaker 2: It's sixty two to thirty nine Ohio State Michigan.

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01:25:25,320 --> 01:25:28,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can make a very compelling argument that defense

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01:25:28,960 --> 01:25:29,280
Speaker 1: is dead.

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01:25:29,280 --> 01:25:30,120
Speaker 2: It is not dead.

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01:25:30,640 --> 01:25:36,479
Speaker 1: And I say that for one specific reason. Okay, football

1579
01:25:36,560 --> 01:25:40,759
Speaker 1: is very cyclical, though we've seen advances in the ways

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01:25:40,800 --> 01:25:45,240
Speaker 1: that teams run. Offenses seen definitely a migration to more

1581
01:25:45,240 --> 01:25:50,720
Speaker 1: of a spread system, smaller players. Space is used in

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01:25:50,760 --> 01:25:56,200
Speaker 1: a different capacity than it was forty years ago. Eventually,

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01:25:56,920 --> 01:25:59,519
Speaker 1: I think offenses will swing back in the other direction,

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01:26:00,320 --> 01:26:04,280
Speaker 1: because because defenses will be built in such a manner

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01:26:04,360 --> 01:26:06,479
Speaker 1: that they can stop the speed and cover the space,

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01:26:07,120 --> 01:26:10,920
Speaker 1: that there will be an opening for some enterprising offenses

1587
01:26:11,400 --> 01:26:15,080
Speaker 1: to go really big, really powerful, and try to kill

1588
01:26:15,120 --> 01:26:17,760
Speaker 1: you up the middle. If things keep going on their

1589
01:26:17,800 --> 01:26:19,800
Speaker 1: current trajectory, there's going to be an opening for a

1590
01:26:19,800 --> 01:26:20,400
Speaker 1: team like that.

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01:26:20,840 --> 01:26:23,880
Speaker 2: I think that's right, but I think there aren't that

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01:26:23,960 --> 01:26:25,519
Speaker 2: many teams that can pull it off.

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01:26:25,560 --> 01:26:26,840
Speaker 1: I don't know if there are many teams that can

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01:26:26,880 --> 01:26:29,719
Speaker 1: pull it off. But since we're talking in hypotheticals here,

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01:26:30,400 --> 01:26:32,280
Speaker 1: I will say that I could see at some point

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01:26:32,320 --> 01:26:34,920
Speaker 1: in the future, maybe not next year, right, not five

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01:26:35,000 --> 01:26:37,360
Speaker 1: years from now, but at some point I could see

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01:26:37,360 --> 01:26:40,559
Speaker 1: it swinging hard in the other direction, or offenses run

1599
01:26:40,600 --> 01:26:44,400
Speaker 1: more power, defenses are forced to get bigger, and it

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01:26:44,520 --> 01:26:47,639
Speaker 1: swings back in the direction of a powerful defense being

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01:26:47,640 --> 01:26:49,720
Speaker 1: able to overpower more offenses.

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01:26:50,200 --> 01:26:52,720
Speaker 2: See. I think defense is just different. I don't think

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01:26:52,720 --> 01:26:55,840
Speaker 2: it's dead. I think it is just shifted, and you know,

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01:26:55,920 --> 01:26:59,639
Speaker 2: the NBA has had this question and basically everybody's gotten

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01:26:59,640 --> 01:27:02,160
Speaker 2: more at You know, it would be very difficult to

1606
01:27:02,160 --> 01:27:05,080
Speaker 2: see Mark Eaton breaking into the NBA. You know that

1607
01:27:05,200 --> 01:27:08,080
Speaker 2: the big plotting center, and I feel that same way

1608
01:27:08,160 --> 01:27:12,160
Speaker 2: about big plotting linebackers that if you remember what the

1609
01:27:12,200 --> 01:27:14,920
Speaker 2: Iowa Stanford Rose Bull not that Stanford was spreading the

1610
01:27:14,920 --> 01:27:19,360
Speaker 2: ball out, but Christian McCaffrey's speed was an untouchable problem.

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01:27:19,400 --> 01:27:21,960
Speaker 2: He was not touched in the first half. It felt

1612
01:27:21,960 --> 01:27:24,519
Speaker 2: like or maybe that's a reality. And I think we're

1613
01:27:24,520 --> 01:27:28,719
Speaker 2: going to see defenses more and more go smaller, faster,

1614
01:27:28,800 --> 01:27:30,679
Speaker 2: and I understand the counter move to that is running

1615
01:27:30,680 --> 01:27:34,240
Speaker 2: bigger in power on offense, but we've reached the point

1616
01:27:34,240 --> 01:27:38,280
Speaker 2: where it's just too advantageous to My term was turf hunting,

1617
01:27:38,960 --> 01:27:42,040
Speaker 2: that too many smart people have found ways to find

1618
01:27:42,080 --> 01:27:45,920
Speaker 2: open grass where I think defenses will counter it effectively.

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01:27:46,560 --> 01:27:50,559
Speaker 2: But that's within the context of what effectively means in

1620
01:27:50,920 --> 01:27:55,960
Speaker 2: new football, because there are a limited number of middle

1621
01:27:55,960 --> 01:28:00,120
Speaker 2: linebackers and safeties and cornerbacks who can make tackles the

1622
01:28:00,200 --> 01:28:02,280
Speaker 2: open field when they're eighteen years old.

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01:28:02,360 --> 01:28:04,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, and by the way, it's harder to make a

1624
01:28:04,280 --> 01:28:07,439
Speaker 1: tackle in the open field. Now, yeah, then it's been

1625
01:28:07,479 --> 01:28:09,479
Speaker 1: at any point in the history of the football game.

1626
01:28:09,880 --> 01:28:11,960
Speaker 1: Not just because you've got speedier guys out there in

1627
01:28:12,040 --> 01:28:15,120
Speaker 1: offenses that utilize space in a different way. The rules

1628
01:28:15,160 --> 01:28:17,880
Speaker 1: have changed, rules have changed, and I think they've changed

1629
01:28:17,920 --> 01:28:20,840
Speaker 1: for the better to try and accommodate player safety. But

1630
01:28:20,920 --> 01:28:23,280
Speaker 1: there's no denying the fact that it changes the way

1631
01:28:23,320 --> 01:28:25,800
Speaker 1: that a defense plays. It makes you think about more

1632
01:28:26,360 --> 01:28:28,600
Speaker 1: when you're out there trying to make a stop. So

1633
01:28:29,400 --> 01:28:35,360
Speaker 1: with the I guess prominence of targeting, with pass interference

1634
01:28:35,520 --> 01:28:38,439
Speaker 1: changing the way that it has over the last twenty years,

1635
01:28:38,960 --> 01:28:41,320
Speaker 1: it's just harder to play defense now on a number

1636
01:28:41,360 --> 01:28:43,800
Speaker 1: of different fronts. I do think eventually it swings back

1637
01:28:43,840 --> 01:28:46,800
Speaker 1: into the direction, but that could be a great long

1638
01:28:46,840 --> 01:28:47,679
Speaker 1: while in the future.

1639
01:28:48,160 --> 01:28:50,519
Speaker 2: I think we are going to see more efforts to

1640
01:28:50,600 --> 01:28:53,439
Speaker 2: confuse that the three three five, the four to two five,

1641
01:28:53,439 --> 01:28:55,880
Speaker 2: even somebody running like a base four to one six

1642
01:28:56,000 --> 01:28:59,280
Speaker 2: type of dime like. I think that's where things are heading,

1643
01:28:59,400 --> 01:29:03,799
Speaker 2: where eventually teams will put their best and smartest athletes

1644
01:29:03,840 --> 01:29:06,439
Speaker 2: on defense on you know, whether it's in the SEC

1645
01:29:06,520 --> 01:29:08,160
Speaker 2: or the Big ten or the Pac twelve wherever it

1646
01:29:08,200 --> 01:29:11,680
Speaker 2: may be the Mountain West, that there will be that

1647
01:29:11,880 --> 01:29:16,160
Speaker 2: sort of innovation where a defense will be so unpredictable

1648
01:29:16,200 --> 01:29:17,920
Speaker 2: that even though they might give up points, even though

1649
01:29:17,960 --> 01:29:22,080
Speaker 2: they might give up yards, they force dumb turnovers, They

1650
01:29:22,200 --> 01:29:25,760
Speaker 2: you know, force long three and outs. Whatever where there

1651
01:29:25,840 --> 01:29:28,599
Speaker 2: is going to be a mind that comes along that

1652
01:29:28,680 --> 01:29:31,200
Speaker 2: takes everything that has come before it in terms of

1653
01:29:31,479 --> 01:29:35,759
Speaker 2: innovative defensive stuff, and just adds a new wrinkle, tweaks

1654
01:29:35,800 --> 01:29:39,800
Speaker 2: it a little bit to where you are confusing an

1655
01:29:39,800 --> 01:29:42,240
Speaker 2: eighteen year old nineteen year old quarterback to the point

1656
01:29:42,280 --> 01:29:45,960
Speaker 2: where it's suddenly more effective than it has been. I

1657
01:29:46,000 --> 01:29:53,320
Speaker 2: think confusion and smarter ways of thinking about size of

1658
01:29:53,400 --> 01:29:56,320
Speaker 2: players in the same way again, NBA centers are like

1659
01:29:56,360 --> 01:29:58,360
Speaker 2: six to seven now, they used to be seven to one.

1660
01:29:58,680 --> 01:30:01,599
Speaker 2: I think there is something to at the changing of

1661
01:30:01,920 --> 01:30:04,120
Speaker 2: the type of athletes that are recruited on defense.

1662
01:30:04,320 --> 01:30:07,280
Speaker 1: What Dan is saying to close out our show here,

1663
01:30:07,640 --> 01:30:10,719
Speaker 1: m HM is that the future of defensive football lies

1664
01:30:10,880 --> 01:30:13,519
Speaker 1: in the hands and in the mind of one Brian

1665
01:30:13,600 --> 01:30:14,160
Speaker 1: van Guider.

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01:30:14,400 --> 01:30:17,559
Speaker 2: That's absolutely true. Hold on, are we thinking of different

1667
01:30:17,640 --> 01:30:21,639
Speaker 2: Brian Vancid On that note, Yeah, he's got time.

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01:30:21,960 --> 01:30:24,559
Speaker 1: A long show here but a fun show. Yeah, please

1669
01:30:24,600 --> 01:30:26,200
Speaker 1: do give us a call four waight verbal one. Let

1670
01:30:26,280 --> 01:30:28,280
Speaker 1: us know your thoughts as you're watching all the action

1671
01:30:28,400 --> 01:30:31,439
Speaker 1: in Week fourteen, in conference championship week, or even if

1672
01:30:31,479 --> 01:30:33,880
Speaker 1: your team is not playing in a conference championship, maybe

1673
01:30:33,880 --> 01:30:37,840
Speaker 1: you're just watching the FCS second round Elite eight matchup

1674
01:30:37,880 --> 01:30:42,640
Speaker 1: between Colegate and JMU. Give us a holler, shoot us

1675
01:30:42,640 --> 01:30:44,760
Speaker 1: a tweet, send us a note on Facebook.

1676
01:30:45,160 --> 01:30:45,840
Speaker 2: We will be there.

1677
01:30:45,920 --> 01:30:48,679
Speaker 1: We'll be waiting with open arms for all of your feedback.

1678
01:30:48,720 --> 01:30:52,000
Speaker 1: In the meantime, do enjoy the rest of your week,

1679
01:30:52,640 --> 01:30:56,439
Speaker 1: enjoy all of your weekend. Catch us on Sunday morning,

1680
01:30:56,960 --> 01:30:58,759
Speaker 1: and in the meantime, do your best to stay solid

1681
01:31:00,320 --> 01:31:00,639
Speaker 2: Peace