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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio. Oh, let's get

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Speaker 1: after it.

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Speaker 2: It's another beautiful, beautiful ceremony unfolding here as we have

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Speaker 2: another week of NFL action with us one game already

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Speaker 2: in the books. Only two teams on by this week,

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Speaker 2: Minnesota after two weeks abroad and the Houston Texans.

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Speaker 1: So those are the two teams on bye.

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Speaker 2: We've got one game of the books that we'll take

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Speaker 2: a look back at and preview a lot of the

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Speaker 2: slate from what we've seen and what we're expecting a

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Speaker 2: little bit later on today. Welcome in. I'm Mike Carmen

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Speaker 2: alongside me. Blessed to be doing it once again. My

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Speaker 2: guy Greg Cosel forty six years NFL films the NFL

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Speaker 2: Matchup Show weekly with Colin Cowhard one o'clock Eastern. They

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Speaker 2: call it the best fifteen to twenty minutes that you

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Speaker 2: get on radio.

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Speaker 1: Well, we got them for two hours. Let's go. How

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Speaker 1: are you doing, Greg?

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Speaker 3: Mike? What's happening to my man? Another football Sunday? Can't wait?

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Speaker 2: Oh, it's just so much greatness on the slate. I

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Speaker 2: heard you talk with Brionna a little bit about her

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Speaker 2: new New Orleans Saints. We'll get into them because interesting

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Speaker 2: on both sides of that equation for that game later

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Speaker 2: on today, weather a factor in some spots, certainly in Carolina,

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Speaker 2: they're keeping an eye out.

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Speaker 1: And then we get one more early game.

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Speaker 2: Before we're done, you know, before we start getting away

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Speaker 2: from some of these games. Greg so another early slate

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Speaker 2: and maybe some Aaron Glenn dancing, he would hope to.

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Speaker 2: But Denver and the Jets coming up in about an

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Speaker 2: hour and a half's time for those waking up and

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Speaker 2: frantically setting those fantasy lineups.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, these early games. You know, it's so funny

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Speaker 3: for me anyway, I become so ritualistic with watching the NFL.

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Speaker 3: Like sometimes these early games. It's like, oh, there's an

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Speaker 3: early game. I have to change my life now, you know,

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Speaker 3: because I'm just so used to a Sunday one o'clock.

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Speaker 3: It's NFL football, you know.

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Speaker 2: No, that's it, right, you forget about. And they came

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Speaker 2: a little earlier I think this year, and well, there

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Speaker 2: certainly will be more of them.

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Speaker 3: Under the next no questions, yep.

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Speaker 2: Certainly the profit margin has to be there. Otherwise they'd say, oh,

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Speaker 2: well you don't like this, No, no, no, if money's there,

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Speaker 2: keep chasing, keep expanding globalization and global domination, no question

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Speaker 2: about it. I wanted to take a minute to go

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Speaker 2: back if we can, Greg, let's go back to Thursday.

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Speaker 2: We'll we'll do a bunch of highlights from last week

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Speaker 2: as we set the table for week six. But go

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Speaker 2: back to Thursday night and two youngsters on display.

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Speaker 1: Let's celebrate the quarterback.

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Speaker 4: Three receivers flashed out to the white takes the shotgun,

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Speaker 4: snap back to throw, bonds the pocket. He's under pressure,

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Speaker 4: bounces dow to his right, throws it to the sideline

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Speaker 3: The five for the touchdown.

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Speaker 1: I like that pace, pace fired.

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Speaker 2: Up, and there he goes Ondale Robinson six catches eighty

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Speaker 2: short order. And if I had someone and the kool

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Speaker 2: him the Juggernaut out of the Marvel universe. But Jackson

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Speaker 2: But the Giants surprised. We'll get to the other side

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Speaker 2: of that equation in a minute, Greg But they surprised

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Speaker 2: the world a bit with a big home respond response

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a very odd game. The Giants were

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Speaker 3: very good on third down, and of course third downs

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Speaker 3: The Eagles, uncharacteristically, there were a number of mistakes on

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Speaker 3: odd game in that sense that the Eagles, and you know,

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Speaker 3: When your offense is not playing well and now all

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Speaker 3: mistakes more than anything, just snowballs and you're not playing well.

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Speaker 3: But Dart's legs And I thought this when I watched

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Speaker 3: and very often mike for young quarterbacks as they're learning,

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Speaker 3: because he doesn't see the field really well yet, which

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Speaker 3: The legs become a big factor because that's the parachute.

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Speaker 3: You drop back, you don't see it, well, what do

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Speaker 3: I mean, he had the twenty yard touchdown scramble on

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Speaker 3: been a major major factor in his three starts.

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Speaker 2: Fifty eight yards on the ground, thirteen carries officially, including

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Speaker 2: that touchdown scamper greg As you mentioned, Jalen Carter scratched

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Speaker 2: from this game late for the Eagles, obviously a big factor.

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Speaker 2: When we're talking about that offensive line of the Giants

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Speaker 2: like you can hear the bells, you know, and Angel

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Speaker 1: But you get a little bit of the battering ram that.

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Speaker 2: Is scatterbo But for Jackson Dart the turn and go

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Speaker 2: and to this point highly effective.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and again he went into the tent in this game.

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Speaker 3: But the point is he's been running an awful lot.

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Speaker 3: that would happen against an Eagles defense of Vic Fangio

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Speaker 3: possession and all five runs, This was really interesting. All

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Speaker 3: And I think in some ways that was as impressive

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Speaker 2: Showing my full cinematic nerd there's a line from the

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Speaker 2: third Batman film in the Christopher Noboy World. Okay, yeah,

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Speaker 2: the dark Knight rises and you got the super villain

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Speaker 2: I didn't know which would break first, your spirits or

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Speaker 1: That's kind of what we watched with the Eagles, George.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there as we watched the imposing of Wills, and

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Speaker 3: And then Mitchell got hurt and only played thirteen the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd be remiss the visit to the Blue Tent

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Speaker 2: that's his guy, and that look, that's the guy that's

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Speaker 2: So if if that's what it takes, that that's what

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Speaker 2: we roll up. But a big seventeen point win on

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know, obviously he's created a spark dart

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Speaker 3: And you know, Scatabo is a guy that people will say, well,

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Speaker 3: he's not special because he's not truly explosive. He's not

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Speaker 3: But there's guys in the NFL who can be sustaining

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Speaker 3: He gets all the hard yards.

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Speaker 1: Mike, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And there's something to be said for just the emotion

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Speaker 2: Can you ride that for a full season? I don't know,

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Speaker 2: we're gonna find out, but certainly there's a lot of

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Speaker 2: juice on that side of the ball. They come out

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Speaker 2: not only in the stands, but everybody's sitting up a

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Speaker 2: little bit closer to the edge of their seats at home,

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Speaker 2: waiting to see what those two are going to be next.

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Speaker 1: And that's good for business, that's good for New York.

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Speaker 2: We'll talk about the other side of the New York

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Speaker 2: New Jersey connection and what they need to do today

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Speaker 2: in a minute, but let's go back to the Eagles.

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Speaker 1: I'm starting to see comparisons.

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Speaker 2: Folks are already projecting that Jalen Hurts is getting going

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Speaker 2: to begin his Russell Wilson era sooner. Oh boy, which

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Speaker 2: is I'm like, wow, whoa, whoa, he got carried, He

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Speaker 3: I think you got to make that throw.

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Speaker 2: It just fuels the disconnect and the lack of cohesion

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Speaker 3: Look, the bottom line is this is an offense that

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Speaker 2: Back to back weeks, we saw limited Barkley eighteen total

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Speaker 1: No, first run play, no.

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Speaker 2: After the Giants botched the opening kickoff right the landing zone,

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Speaker 3: Your fandom is showing once again, your fandom is showing.

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Speaker 2: Of it all has been great, Greg, but zero to

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Speaker 3: defense in the first segment, and that's the last game

436
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Speaker 3: they played against the Eagles, and in the second half

437
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Speaker 3: he was very, very good. I mean against what we

438
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Speaker 3: always believe is a very good Eagles defense With Vic Fangio,

439
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Speaker 3: he was fourteen for eighteen fo one hundred and sixty

440
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Speaker 3: three yards. I mean, he was phenomenal. In the fourth quarter.

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Speaker 3: He made a great throw on third and fifteen. I

442
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Speaker 3: mean that throw was a really strong timing anticipation throw

443
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Speaker 3: against zone coverage, the kind of throws you have to

444
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Speaker 3: make against zone. He seems to be settling in and

445
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Speaker 3: becoming more comfortable. You know, I think we forget sometimes

446
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Speaker 3: we see a lot of guys play well as rookies,

447
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Speaker 3: and we just assume that the arrow's pointing way way up.

448
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Speaker 3: You know, you know, you've been doing this a long time.

449
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Speaker 3: You know that defenses they study these guys, they understand

450
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Speaker 3: Sean Payton's offense. He's been around for a long time,

451
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Speaker 3: and then they just devise plans that just make it

452
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Speaker 3: a little more difficult. And then the quarterback has to

453
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Speaker 3: figure it out. I remember a coach telling me, a

454
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Speaker 3: guy who coached in the league for thirty years and

455
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Speaker 3: coach some of the great quarterbacks in this league, telling

456
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Speaker 3: me that one of the things you really have to

457
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Speaker 3: find out with a young quarterback is what answers he

458
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Speaker 3: can find on his own as he plays, you know,

459
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Speaker 3: And I think that's a big thing with young quarterbacks.

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Speaker 3: You know, obviously you coach them all week. You can

461
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Speaker 3: coach them during the game when they come to the

462
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Speaker 3: sideline and say, hey, what are we getting, what are

463
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Speaker 3: we looking at? But when all said and done, they've

464
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Speaker 3: got to find some answers on their own, and I

465
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Speaker 3: think that's a major part of their development as young players.

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Speaker 2: We saw it in the fourth quarter. You mentioned the stats,

467
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Speaker 2: eighteen to nothing, the final on the scoreboard for the

468
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Speaker 2: fourth quarter to give Denver that big lead. Be remiss,

469
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Speaker 2: you know, talking about this offense, Courtland Sutton's all world

470
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Speaker 2: and you're starting to see the rest of that receiving

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Speaker 2: crew pack the packing order bear out with Troy Franklin,

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Speaker 2: Evan Ingram healthy four for thirty three in a score

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Speaker 2: last week, three catches for r J.

474
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Speaker 1: Harvey. That's important because he only had four carries. JK.

475
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Speaker 2: Banns is that guy that the brothers Harball had always

476
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Speaker 2: talked about. They always loved him, and now he's just

477
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Speaker 2: been an absolute beast for Denver.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. No, he's been running really well. I'm glad you

479
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Speaker 3: mentioned Sutton because you know there were two big plays

480
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Speaker 3: in that fourth quarter that was just purely matchup football.

481
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Speaker 3: It was fade routes versus one of the best corners

482
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Speaker 3: in the league in Quinnon. Mitchell and Nix and Sutton

483
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Speaker 3: won those two matchups and Mitchell was right there, but

484
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Speaker 3: it was just good on good and Nix and Sutton won.

485
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Speaker 2: Eight for ninety nine last year for Sutton, one of

486
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Speaker 2: the best players. Good to see him get his due.

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Speaker 1: And get a little bit of run.

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Speaker 2: The other thing is looking at the target sheet, and

489
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Speaker 2: we saw this across a lot of box scores last week. Greg,

490
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Speaker 2: as you go through the film and they're like, wow,

491
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Speaker 2: that's another receiver. That's another guy stepping up. No fewer

492
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Speaker 2: than ten ten targeted players from neck Nicks a week ago.

493
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Speaker 2: And seeing that, as I dare try to speak it

494
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Speaker 2: into existence that we're trending towards just spreading the ball

495
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Speaker 2: around a little bit more as opposed to the myopia

496
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Speaker 2: of I'm just going to force feed one or two guys.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and again, the past game involves a couple of things.

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Speaker 3: One is matchup football, where you can attack a particular

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Speaker 3: player with your best receiver. But then the other thing

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Speaker 3: about the past game is sort of choreography and concepts

501
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Speaker 3: and spacing. And you know, I think that that's ultimately

502
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Speaker 3: if you're getting more zone coverage that becomes more important.

503
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Speaker 3: Then it's not really matchup football per se. It's your

504
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Speaker 3: route concepts and your route combinations and how you create

505
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Speaker 3: the spacing so the looks are more defined for the quarterback.

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Speaker 1: Now we look at the Jets on the other hand, outside.

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Speaker 2: We have to I gotta give it a minute. I

508
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Speaker 2: got it, fair like, literally, it's a minute. How long

509
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Speaker 2: did they win last.

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Speaker 3: Well? The amazing thing is they've got no turnovers on defense,

511
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Speaker 3: I believe after five games, which is that's a tough

512
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Speaker 3: way to play. It's a really tough way to play.

513
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Speaker 3: And the thing is, I don't think they have bad

514
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Speaker 3: personnel on defense. And I'm being totally honest with you,

515
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Speaker 3: I don't know what the issue is. I really you'd

516
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Speaker 3: almost have to be there to know. Look, I think

517
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Speaker 3: Aaron Glenn is a very very good coach. Now, obviously

518
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Speaker 3: it's totally different being a decoordinator versus being a head coach.

519
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Speaker 3: In Detroit, he didn't have to set the tempo for

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Speaker 3: the whole team. There's probably no better head coach in

521
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Speaker 3: the league of doing that than Dan Campbell for a team,

522
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Speaker 3: and Aaron Glenn did not have to do that. Now

523
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Speaker 3: it's totally different. But you know, it's hard for me

524
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Speaker 3: to understand they're not getting necessarily blown out. It's just

525
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Speaker 3: we'll see what happens. I mean, I'm certainly not comparing

526
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Speaker 3: Aaron Glenn to Joe Gibbs. Okay, I don't want people

527
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Speaker 3: to think that, But Joe Gibbs his first season with Washington,

528
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Speaker 3: he was zero and five to start. And again, I

529
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Speaker 3: don't want people to think I'm making an apples to

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Speaker 3: apples comparison.

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Speaker 1: No, I'd have to cut out a couple of words

532
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Speaker 1: in posts and.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah exactly, Hey we'd go viral Greg and there

534
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Speaker 3: we go.

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Speaker 1: But you look at the way this rosters come together

536
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Speaker 1: right now.

537
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Speaker 2: The only defense giving up more points the beleaguered Baltimore Raven.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the interesting thing to me, And I, like

539
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Speaker 3: I said, I don't have a brilliant answer for that,

540
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Speaker 3: and I'm just being honest.

541
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Speaker 5: Yeah.

542
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Speaker 1: No, Well, we'll see how how it bears out.

543
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Speaker 2: Like Rome wasn't built in the day, sometimes you don't

544
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Speaker 2: get the quick and easy results to it all. But

545
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Speaker 2: certainly a lot of rumors swirling about their backfield. Right

546
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Speaker 2: they lose Braileen Allen to the injury. Yeah, it was

547
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Speaker 2: supposed to be part of a sledgehammer one two with Bryce.

548
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Speaker 3: Hall and Halls look good, Mike Halls look good.

549
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean his name is starting to be bandied

550
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Speaker 2: about in some of the trade discussions because we had

551
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Speaker 2: three this week. So whether we see another flurry of those,

552
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Speaker 2: it's curious, you know what, We'll get to the game

553
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Speaker 2: as a whole. But the other guy that Gott mentioned

554
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Speaker 2: in a couple of reports I was seeing was Derrick

555
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Speaker 2: Henry given his last last couple of weeks, Yeah, struggling

556
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Speaker 2: and struggling with ball security. And where Baltimore is with

557
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Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson probably out at least one more week that

558
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Speaker 2: perhaps they look to sell. I mean, we talked about

559
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Speaker 2: Keaton Mitchell a couple of weeks ago, like they had

560
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Speaker 2: him in mouth shut. Waiting to unleash him or trade

561
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Speaker 2: him just becomes a question of which offers a better

562
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Speaker 2: bounty in the open market.

563
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Speaker 3: I guess what when when does the trade deadline end?

564
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Speaker 3: I don't know, Vember fourth, I believe. Oh so we

565
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Speaker 3: still have a ways to go here.

566
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Speaker 1: Yeah, so some of these teams making those proactive moves,

567
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Speaker 1: sure right away?

568
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Speaker 2: Well why don't why don't we get to let's rip

569
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Speaker 2: that band aid off? Joe Flacco is going to go

570
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Speaker 2: quarterback to steady Bengals today. There are fourteen point dogs

571
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Speaker 2: on the road at Green Bay. Forty four and a

572
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Speaker 2: half is the total here. Look, Jamar Chase did everything

573
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Speaker 2: he could as a one man band, and Browning still

574
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Speaker 2: had a couple of throws that were pretty incredible, but

575
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Speaker 2: he built them and dug them such a hole there

576
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Speaker 2: was no coming back. So Joe Flacco goes there. Does

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Speaker 2: this mean we get more Chase brown and t Higgins

578
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Speaker 2: in our futures?

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Speaker 3: I mean, the one thing about Flacco is he will

580
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Speaker 3: always throw the football. He's not a risk averse thrower.

581
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Speaker 3: He will target Chase and Higgins, There's no question about that.

582
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Speaker 3: I don't know how much run game, they'll do. I

583
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Speaker 3: mean they may feel that they need to do that.

584
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Speaker 3: Their defense has been very, very up and down. You know,

585
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Speaker 3: you need to try to control the pace and tempo

586
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Speaker 3: of the game when your defense is not very good,

587
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Speaker 3: because you don't want your defense playing seventy plays. See

588
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Speaker 3: that's the thing. It's the defense. How many plays do

589
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Speaker 3: they play? And then it's a problem. Then it becomes

590
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Speaker 3: a big problem if they have to play too many plays.

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Speaker 3: So we'll see. But Joe, look, you know we love

592
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Speaker 3: Joe because he will throw the football, There's no question

593
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Speaker 3: about that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a guy. I loved this quote from earlier

595
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Speaker 2: this week. We played it in as a full minute clip,

596
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Speaker 2: but just talking about how much he still loves.

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Speaker 1: Playing the game of football.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, he keeps going to remind her because you know,

599
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Speaker 2: we were on in the evenings and there's lots of

600
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Speaker 2: crazy stuff that happens in our world and over the

601
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Speaker 2: course of the day, and we try to bring that

602
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Speaker 2: veritable pope ree Jason Smith and I together. We had

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Speaker 2: sister Jean Right one hundred and six years old, and

604
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Speaker 2: the chaplain over at Loola Chicago became a big deal.

605
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Speaker 2: During March Madness who was working up until like the

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Speaker 2: final weeks of her run, didn't start her job at

607
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Speaker 2: Looel until she was over seventy right, right, one of

608
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Speaker 2: those hey find what you love doing and just keep going.

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Speaker 3: Well, just to finish the point, the Bengals, let's put

610
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Speaker 3: the Giants and Eagles aside, because they've played the extra game.

611
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Speaker 3: They played six games. Of the teams that have played

612
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Speaker 3: the most defensive snaps, a stat that's rarely looked at,

613
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Speaker 3: but it's really really important, the two teams that have

614
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Speaker 3: played the most defensive snaps through five games are the

615
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Speaker 3: Ravens and the Bengals. And that's a problem, you know.

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Speaker 3: It's just you can't play that many snaps and be

617
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Speaker 3: a good defense. It just gets very very hard.

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Speaker 2: Now we play our chicken in the egg right, trying

619
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Speaker 2: to figure out We came into the year wondering how

620
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Speaker 2: good and I think good in like italics, the offensive

621
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Speaker 2: line could be even with Joe Burrow upright under center,

622
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Speaker 2: yep right, and so your run game has sputtered when

623
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Speaker 2: you've tried to use it and you can't control clock, down, distance,

624
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Speaker 2: et cetera. And defensively, they re upped Henderson, they gave

625
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Speaker 2: him that extra fourteen million.

626
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Speaker 1: For the year.

627
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Speaker 2: But for the rest of that squad, you're going, it's

628
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Speaker 2: him and what else do you have defensively, So it's

629
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Speaker 2: you know, trying to juggle a little bit as you're

630
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Speaker 2: going through playing with knives right, catching falling knives.

631
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and they're playing a lot of young players at corner,

632
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Speaker 3: so it's still a work in progress. There's one young

633
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Speaker 3: player I really like on their defense. He's a rookie

634
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Speaker 3: from South Carolina to Metrious Night, the linebacker, and he's

635
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:52,360
Speaker 3: been playing almost every snap. But this defense is still

636
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Speaker 3: a work in progress.

637
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Speaker 2: A lot of snaps the other side of the ball,

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Speaker 2: Green Bay coming out of their bye week, Yeah, we've

639
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Speaker 2: seen them play some big time foot We've seen some

640
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 2: head scratching moments on the defensive side of things. But

641
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,560
Speaker 2: I got to imagine with the bye week, it's again

642
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:08,880
Speaker 2: healthy right as well as all right.

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Speaker 1: There's Joe Flacker.

644
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 2: He doesn't move much left or right, just getting no no.

645
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Speaker 3: And you know that game a couple of weeks ago

646
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Speaker 3: against Dallas where they gave up forty was kind of

647
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:20,720
Speaker 3: a surprise to me because their defense had been playing

648
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Speaker 3: exceptionally well and obviously that game My sense is it'll

649
00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:28,360
Speaker 3: be an aberration kind of games, just one of those.

650
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Speaker 3: I like their defense a lot. I think they've got

651
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Speaker 3: a lot of really strong elements. I love what Jeff

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Speaker 3: Hafley does in terms of his pressure concepts. They stunt

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Speaker 3: a ton. They're always one of the highest percentage stunt

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Speaker 3: teams up front. They do a really good job with that,

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Speaker 3: creating opportunities for both penetrators and loopers. I would imagine

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Speaker 3: that they'll continue to get better. The only concern you

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Speaker 3: may have with them is at the corner position on

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Speaker 3: the outside, and that's a legit.

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Speaker 2: Concern, certainly for this week when you're contending with Jase

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Speaker 2: and Higgins and with the guy in Joe Claco I mentioned,

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Speaker 2: you know, the the speech.

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Speaker 1: He gave you have to talking about love of the game. Whatever.

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Speaker 1: We do know he loves to throw.

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Speaker 2: The football, oh for sure, tendue to keep pushing down

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Speaker 2: field and go back to that run he had with

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Speaker 2: Cleveland a couple of years ago. Yeah, he's gonna put

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Speaker 2: it in harm's way, but he's going to make some

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Speaker 2: big plays. And if you're Jamar Chase, your eyes are

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Speaker 2: wide at the possibilities and.

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Speaker 3: You know what Mike. He may have the best case

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Speaker 3: of amnesia for any quarterback we've seen in recent years.

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Speaker 3: Whatever happens on the play before he moves on to

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Speaker 3: the next He could throw three bed balls in a row,

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Speaker 3: and you know the fourth throw is he's just turning

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Speaker 3: it loose again. That's what he's Yeah, yeah, that's the

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Speaker 3: way he plays.

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Speaker 2: I have used that phraseology the memory of a cornerback

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Speaker 2: with all with everything in our lives right next play,

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Speaker 2: I gotta match up with you again.

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Speaker 1: I can't. I can't worry about what just happened.

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Speaker 3: Joe lives in the moment. He lives for each each play.

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Speaker 3: What happened previously is gone from his mind. It's been

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Speaker 3: a race. You know.

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Speaker 2: I need he and Klais Campbell to keep playing. For

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Speaker 2: two guys from the two thousand and eight draft class.

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Speaker 2: Keep going, guys.

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Speaker 3: Yeah that is crazy.

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Speaker 1: Make me feel younger, Greg, no question about it.

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Speaker 2: At Greg co Sell where you find him in the

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Speaker 2: Twitter verse, Find me over at Swollen Dome, the NFL

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Speaker 1: Look forty six years NFL films.

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Speaker 2: we'll give us our forty fourth starting quarterback in this

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Speaker 2: Young NFL campaign. Who is it and what do we

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Speaker 2: expect that's next? Here on Fox Football Sunday. Welcome back

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Speaker 2: in Fox Sports Radios, Fox Football Sunday, Mike Carmen alongside

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Speaker 2: Greg co South. Thanks for being with us here on

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Speaker 2: a beautiful Week six early morning. Remember a game kicking

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Speaker 2: off in about forty five minutes from now Denver and

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Speaker 2: the New York Football Jets getting after it over at

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Speaker 2: Tottenham Hotspurs Stadium in London, and then a little letting

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Speaker 2: it later on Greg as we get ready for this slate,

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Speaker 2: Jacoby Burssett break glass case of emergency. By my rudimentary

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Speaker 2: math skills. That's quarterback number forty four to start a

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Speaker 2: game this year. We're gonna get to sixty. Boy, we're

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Speaker 2: gonna get to sixty. But facing up against those Indianapolis Colts,

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Speaker 2: be remiss we didn't at least do the quick look back.

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Speaker 2: As you've watched a lot of film, You've watched a

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Speaker 2: lot of games. Have you ever watched a game like

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Speaker 2: that from the Arizona Cardinals and not think that you've

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Speaker 2: turned on Shutter or one of those channels not such

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Speaker 2: nothing but horror films.

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Speaker 3: I mean, unfortunately, we've seen this too many times where

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Speaker 3: players just drop the ball before they get to the

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Speaker 3: end zone. I don't know what to say to about that.

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Speaker 3: It's just stupid. I mean, what more can you say?

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Speaker 3: Of course, then they had the interception, which then was

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Speaker 3: recovered in the end zone by Tennessee. But cam Ward

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Speaker 3: still had to make plays in the second half, and

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Speaker 3: he had a very very good second half. He was

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Speaker 3: sixteen for twenty three for two h seven just in

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Speaker 3: the second half alone against a normally good Arizona defense,

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Speaker 3: by the way, and he made some big time throws

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Speaker 3: war did in that game.

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Speaker 2: Starting to look a little bit like that guy that

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Speaker 2: well was drafted first overall. A couple of bit games

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Speaker 2: for him here, biggest yardage output twenty one of thirty nine.

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Speaker 2: Pushed that aside. It was what happened late in leading. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: comeback effort as Arizona left that door open. Now Kyler

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Speaker 2: Murray after practicing a bit and they said he.

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Speaker 1: Moved all right on Friday.

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Speaker 2: But it looks like Jacoby Brissett's going to get the

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Speaker 2: start today. We've been down this path.

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Speaker 3: Before, yeah, we have. They're playing a really good team too.

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Speaker 3: I mean, Indianapolis's offense has been so so good, and

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Speaker 3: you know, I think that this is a classic case

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Speaker 3: to me, of just a great marriage between the coach

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Speaker 3: and the quarterback. I mean, Shane Steichen has done such

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Speaker 3: a good job in my view, and I've seen every game,

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Speaker 3: every play all season on first down and normal down

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Speaker 3: in distant situations, Mike, He's given Jones what you'd call

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Speaker 3: base concepts. But what it does is it presents clean

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Speaker 3: and defined reads and it allows Jones to play with

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Speaker 3: timing and rhythm and get the ball out on time

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Speaker 3: and get completions. The one thing you don't see with

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Speaker 3: Daniel Jones this year, which you saw all the time

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Speaker 3: when he was with the Giants, is he's not getting

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Speaker 3: stuck in the pocket. The ball is coming out. He

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Speaker 3: has the most first down passing yards of any quarterback

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Speaker 3: in the NFL and the fourth most dropbacks on first down,

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Speaker 3: because first down is the best down to throw.

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Speaker 2: Mix and match that with Jonathan Taylor doing his thing

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Speaker 2: leading the league and rushing. Here's your top five rushers

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Speaker 2: through five weeks of the season. Tell me if this

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Speaker 2: makes a lot of sense. Taylor, Cook, Javonte Williams, who

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Speaker 2: doesn't get enough credit there.

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Speaker 3: With I agree.

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Speaker 1: In Dallas, you.

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Speaker 2: Got Travis etn and then you got the aforementioned JK.

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Speaker 1: Dobbins.

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Speaker 2: We previewed him about him a little bit before. But

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Speaker 2: for Jonathan Taylor, I mean, he gets to help set

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Speaker 2: the tone.

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Speaker 1: And we've been talking.

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Speaker 2: About Ballard and wondering, you know, with that roster that

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Speaker 2: every year it's like, all right, they've got the roster,

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Speaker 2: but it was the mix and match at the quarterback position,

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Speaker 2: seemingly going all the way back to when Andrew Luck

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Speaker 2: walked away. Sure, they've been wishing and wandering trying to

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Speaker 2: find that guy, including a couple of retreads including yeah,

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Speaker 2: afore mentioned Joe Flacco and I got the word aforementioned

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Speaker 2: and again, so I'll put it in.

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Speaker 3: I like it.

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Speaker 1: I like it. Well, I gotta. I gotta make myself

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Speaker 1: look like I know what I'm doing.

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Speaker 3: I feel like I need a number two pencil to

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Speaker 3: take my SAT test.

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Speaker 2: Now, Well, I gotta I gotta pay. That's how I

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Speaker 2: pay off the Northwestern loans.

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Speaker 3: Well there you go.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I paid a lot into it.

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Speaker 2: So I got to use big words to make myself

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Speaker 2: look like I actually attended a class.

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Speaker 3: Uh but uh, but I had. The cults have been

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Speaker 3: just a lot of fun to watch an offense four.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you're spreading the ball around. Tyler Warren's the

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Speaker 2: leading receiver for tight ends thus far, so mixing and matching.

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Speaker 2: For Daniel Jones, it's just I guess he's the latest

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Speaker 2: example of the if you hang around long enough, you'll

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Speaker 2: find the system and coach that you communicate with.

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Speaker 3: Well, well, you know what we spoke about this last week,

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Speaker 3: but it's worth just coming again very briefly, is how

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Speaker 3: the system and how you're taught. But it's really for

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Speaker 3: ninety nine percent of quarterbacks, that's what it's all about.

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Speaker 3: There's very very few transcendent players. We like to think

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Speaker 3: certain guys are, but the end of the day, it's

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Speaker 3: more about how they're taught, the scheme, what's presented to them.

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Speaker 3: That's when they can really look efficient and play with

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Speaker 3: great timing.

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Speaker 2: Currently third in the NFL at twelve hundred and ninety

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Speaker 2: passing yards eight point six yards per attempt at this

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Speaker 2: point getting it done, one of the leaders in ye

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Speaker 2: air yards as well. What's funny, though, Grey is you

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Speaker 2: know we do the full stats thing. Remember he had

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Speaker 2: a pretty good year a couple of years ago, is

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Speaker 2: what three touchdowns per interception, but it was dismissed because he.

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Speaker 1: Didn't have thirty.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm wondering how much that gets pushed away

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Speaker 2: or if we just embrace the narrative as a collective

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Speaker 2: media this time around, because the ws are attached.

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Speaker 3: Well, he's been great on third down as well, and

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Speaker 3: that's you know, he's had twenty six third down completions

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Speaker 3: nineteen Mike have resulted in first downs. That's the key

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Speaker 3: that when you look at third down completions, how many

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Speaker 3: produce first downs? And he's been phenomenal with.

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Speaker 2: That, doing a great job thus far. Big favorites today,

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Speaker 2: touchdown favorites with Arizona and Jacoby Brissett coming to town.

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Speaker 2: We got a full hour still to go, a lot

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Speaker 2: of big games, big names to pre You at Greg

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Speaker 2: Coast Cell where you find him in Twitter, Find me

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Speaker 2: over at Swollen do more Fox Football Sunday next here

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Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 5: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

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Speaker 2: Greetings, Welcome in another hour Fox Football Sunday Talk TikTok, TikTok,

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Speaker 2: thirty minutes till kickoff Broncos and Jets from London. So

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Speaker 2: get those fantasy lineups and your picks in as you

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Speaker 2: need to toggle away. Welcome man, I'm Mike Carbon alongside

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Speaker 2: me Greg coast Cell each and every week two hours

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Speaker 2: of breaking down what's been on film and what we

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Speaker 2: see as a team moving forward. A lot of quarterback shuffling.

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Speaker 2: As you heard Dan Byer's update, they're preparing for Jacoby

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Speaker 2: Brissett to go in air Arizona. He may start a

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Speaker 2: number forty four on this young season. Two games featuring

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Speaker 2: teams with records better than five hundred, that's where we're

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Speaker 2: at at this point of the year. But the Dolphins

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Speaker 2: have already popped their champagne for that undefeated season from

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Speaker 2: all those years ago. Welcome into another hour as Week

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Speaker 2: six unfolds. One game in the books, the Giants and

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Speaker 2: the Eagles that seems like a lifetime ago, between that

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Speaker 2: marathon baseball game and a full slate of college football.

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Speaker 2: So here we are ready to rev it up again. Greg,

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Speaker 2: the already get working into a ladder as we get

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Speaker 2: ready for bow Nicks against Justin Fields and the chicanery

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Speaker 2: of a day to come.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's what we're about a half hour away. That's

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Speaker 3: it for Sunday Morning Football. This isn't the last one,

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Speaker 3: is it? Is there another one next week?

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure what the schedule is on the rest

869
00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:52,000
Speaker 1: of the international slate.

870
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:55,520
Speaker 3: Here, Yeah, I'm looking right now. Let's see so week seven, No,

871
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:58,240
Speaker 3: there's not one next week.

872
00:41:58,520 --> 00:41:59,719
Speaker 1: There you go. So it goes back to you.

873
00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:01,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, there is, there is, there is. It's a RAMS

874
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:05,279
Speaker 3: at Jacksonville. Excuse me, it's the last one. I think.

875
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:06,280
Speaker 3: So that's at Wembley.

876
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:09,440
Speaker 1: There you go. I think maybe we can do that's.

877
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:11,360
Speaker 3: Actually a big game, by the way, based on the

878
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 3: way things are going.

879
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:14,840
Speaker 2: Well, that's it, right, we're jumping off here. We're talking

880
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:17,000
Speaker 2: about we talked a lot about the Colts. Let's talk

881
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:19,399
Speaker 2: about those Jaguars for a minute, and we talk about

882
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:23,160
Speaker 2: the run game and certainly for Travis etn in company

883
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:26,840
Speaker 2: getting it done. Liam Cohen in his first year, another

884
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:30,240
Speaker 2: guy who didn't win the opening presser when he tried

885
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:34,160
Speaker 2: to say Duval didn't go over so well, right, But

886
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:37,000
Speaker 2: trying to bring out the best in this roster. We

887
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:41,640
Speaker 2: look at last week's game, just a chaotic finish, and

888
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:46,759
Speaker 2: certainly for Trevor Lawrence. Trevor Lawrence and not necessarily with

889
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:49,160
Speaker 2: his arms, but he got it done on the ground,

890
00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:52,720
Speaker 2: becoming the latest big time player in that regard.

891
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:54,680
Speaker 3: Trevor under center.

892
00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:56,479
Speaker 1: He cliply fell down.

893
00:42:56,600 --> 00:42:58,600
Speaker 3: Tremor fell down on the plane.

894
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:20,880
Speaker 7: Don't play run up. I gotta take us any.

895
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:20,480
Speaker 2: Jaguars radio network on the call if you couldn't tell,

896
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:23,520
Speaker 2: look like a baby giraffe, stumbling, bumbling. But he got

897
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:25,920
Speaker 2: there for the second time in the game. Ten carries

898
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:30,000
Speaker 2: fifty four yards, two touchdowns on the ground, efficient through

899
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:33,280
Speaker 2: the air, greg eighteen of draw twenty five against the Chiefs,

900
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:35,960
Speaker 2: and and a bit of a stunner in a thirty

901
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:38,919
Speaker 2: one to twenty eight final minute dramatic comeback win.

902
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:43,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know it's funny. Lawrence's legs are a

903
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 3: big deal. You know, I don't think a lot of

904
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 3: people think of him that way. It's actually been a

905
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:51,680
Speaker 3: pretty important part of their offense, both by design. I

906
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:54,319
Speaker 3: mean they feature him in the design quarterback run game

907
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:58,480
Speaker 3: in specific situations quite a bit. Zone reads, quarterback sweep.

908
00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:01,840
Speaker 3: He's got great size, he's got mobility. He's an excellent

909
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:04,279
Speaker 3: scrambler when he has to do that, so he can

910
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:07,040
Speaker 3: beat you with his legs. He scored a touchdown an

911
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:09,600
Speaker 3: earlier touchdown in that game on a scramble as well,

912
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:13,160
Speaker 3: so you know that's and he made that great throw

913
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:15,600
Speaker 3: late in the game, the thirty three yarder on third

914
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:19,319
Speaker 3: and seven to Brian Thomas on the winning touchdown drive.

915
00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:21,360
Speaker 3: I mean, he couldn't have handed it to him any better.

916
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:24,359
Speaker 3: But you know, the guy that I think, really I

917
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:27,680
Speaker 3: think is worth mentioning is their decoordinator, Anthony Campanelli, who,

918
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:30,919
Speaker 3: by the way, is a Jersey guy, so first year

919
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:34,520
Speaker 3: coordinator there. I think he's doing a great job in

920
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:37,319
Speaker 3: terms when I watch their tape, they're not necessarily a

921
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:40,799
Speaker 3: high percentage blitz team, and their stats other than the

922
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:44,640
Speaker 3: turnovers are not great. But he does such a good

923
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:48,000
Speaker 3: job with his pressure concepts. When he does decide to pressure,

924
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:51,640
Speaker 3: whether it's four man which we call sim pressures or

925
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:54,960
Speaker 3: five man, what he does he does such a good

926
00:44:55,040 --> 00:45:00,160
Speaker 3: job of understanding protections and attacking them. I mean, do

927
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:02,560
Speaker 3: such a good job with that. And that's really what

928
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:06,240
Speaker 3: it's about. You know, you don't want to just randomly attack.

929
00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:08,960
Speaker 3: You want to understand how a team protects, and then

930
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:12,799
Speaker 3: you pretty much set your front, including your second level defenders,

931
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:16,080
Speaker 3: based on hey, here's how I know they're going to

932
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:18,880
Speaker 3: protect this look, and now then I know how to

933
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:19,520
Speaker 3: break it down.

934
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:25,880
Speaker 2: Jacksonville plus eight in the turnover differential department, fourteen takeaways already,

935
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:28,080
Speaker 2: and then they went into the marketplace. This is where

936
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:30,279
Speaker 2: I get the obligatory. Hey, there's a Northwestern guy in

937
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:33,920
Speaker 2: the NFL in Greg Newsom, coming over from Cleveland to

938
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:37,439
Speaker 2: help bolster the secondary, and reports are that they're not done,

939
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:39,600
Speaker 2: that They're still going to look to Yeah, to bolster

940
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:40,719
Speaker 2: that side of the ball.

941
00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:43,359
Speaker 3: Interesting trade because the Jaguars are more of his own

942
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:47,880
Speaker 3: based coverage defense than man based, and their feeling was

943
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:51,920
Speaker 3: that Newsom is a much better zone corner than Tyson Campbell,

944
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:56,120
Speaker 3: who's better at man coverage and struggles in zone. So

945
00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:59,360
Speaker 3: I think the feeling was that that Newsom just fits

946
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:02,920
Speaker 3: their scheme better, and he probably does because he's a

947
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:04,800
Speaker 3: better zone corner than Campbell is.

948
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:07,760
Speaker 2: Now you mentioned the big pass play to Brian Thomas.

949
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:11,520
Speaker 2: There's a guy certainly early in the season drop issues.

950
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:18,759
Speaker 2: By my quick research, seventeen is what they've been gifted with.

951
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:20,840
Speaker 2: I guess in the stat column because I think I

952
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:24,839
Speaker 2: counted more watching those games, but seventeen official drops thus

953
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:27,719
Speaker 2: far by Jacksonville Thomas with a bunch of those off

954
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:31,879
Speaker 2: the rightm just sixteen catches on thirty eight targets thus far.

955
00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:35,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, which is not a good percentage. But obviously in

956
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:39,120
Speaker 3: that critical situation they did go to him. Now, again,

957
00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:42,440
Speaker 3: the coverage dictated that he go to him because that

958
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:45,359
Speaker 3: was see that often happens. I mean, you can always say, hey,

959
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:48,120
Speaker 3: let's throw it to this guy. Sure, and people might

960
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:50,520
Speaker 3: think seeing that play, oh, well, you went to your

961
00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:53,360
Speaker 3: best guy. But what happened on that play is when

962
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:56,000
Speaker 3: Trevor Lawrence saw the safety to that side of the

963
00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:59,680
Speaker 3: field turn his body to the inside, he knew that

964
00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:02,480
Speaker 3: he had Thomas one on one. So that became the throw.

965
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:05,600
Speaker 3: It wasn't you know, if obviously the safety didn't do that,

966
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:08,720
Speaker 3: then he might have thrown it somewhere else. But Lawrence

967
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:11,160
Speaker 3: read that perfectly. Not that it was a difficult read

968
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:14,480
Speaker 3: because you're always looking at safeties first. But it was

969
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:18,000
Speaker 3: a great throw and Thomas Thomas won and he just

970
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:19,920
Speaker 3: put it right over the top. Like I said, he couldn't.

971
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:21,560
Speaker 3: He couldn't have handed it to him any better.

972
00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:25,360
Speaker 2: Now we get a huge game there, it's Jacksonville at Seattle.

973
00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:28,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, we look at what Sam Darnold was a week ago.

974
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:33,480
Speaker 2: A lot of big throws in time mobility and plays downfield.

975
00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:38,080
Speaker 2: Tough loss thirty eight thirty five, but playing playing well

976
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:40,880
Speaker 2: and still rounding out that receiving cores looking more like

977
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:44,160
Speaker 2: Horton will become more of a number two option for them.

978
00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:47,120
Speaker 2: The run game has been pretty good. Banged up on defense,

979
00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:50,120
Speaker 2: I guess that's the one. Yeah, big question for Seattle

980
00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:52,720
Speaker 2: coming into this bat heavyweight.

981
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:55,799
Speaker 3: Bout sure that that is a question. Witherspoon will be

982
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:58,840
Speaker 3: out again, I don't know what. I think Rip Woollen

983
00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:00,799
Speaker 3: might be out as well. I know he got a

984
00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:04,759
Speaker 3: concussion last week. So now they're working through to the

985
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:07,600
Speaker 3: depth chart at the corner position, which is always an

986
00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:11,000
Speaker 3: issue in the NFL. But you hit it. Darnold's been

987
00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:15,040
Speaker 3: very very good this year, really really good. And again

988
00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:18,600
Speaker 3: it's just it's just a sense of playing with decisiveness

989
00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:21,880
Speaker 3: and that's where the scheming of the pass game really

990
00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:24,680
Speaker 3: comes into play. When your quarterback can hit his back

991
00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:27,640
Speaker 3: foot and pretty much feel like, hey, I know where

992
00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:30,640
Speaker 3: I'm going with the football. It's cleaned for me. And

993
00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:35,000
Speaker 3: that's happening more than not with this past game. And

994
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:38,520
Speaker 3: you know, you may remember when they signed Cooper Cup,

995
00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:40,640
Speaker 3: you know, back in whenever they signed him, what did

996
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:42,880
Speaker 3: a lot of people say, oh, I don't understand that

997
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:46,240
Speaker 3: because they've got a slot receiver in Jason Jackson Smith

998
00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:49,360
Speaker 3: and Jigba. But the bottom line is that they knew

999
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:52,000
Speaker 3: that Smith and Jigba could play outside. He's lined up

1000
00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:55,400
Speaker 3: as the outside receiver on seventy five percent of his

1001
00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:58,239
Speaker 3: offensive snaps. So this is not a case where they

1002
00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:01,560
Speaker 3: signed Cup having another slot. They knew what Smith and

1003
00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:04,080
Speaker 3: Jigbit could be in the league, and that's exactly the

1004
00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:04,960
Speaker 3: way it's played out.

1005
00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:07,200
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1006
00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:09,960
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1007
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:12,359
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1008
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1009
00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:18,400
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1010
00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:22,279
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1011
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:25,680
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1012
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:29,160
Speaker 2: Sports Radio. Big matchup down in Miami later on today

1013
00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:31,960
Speaker 2: the Chargers. I still want to know what happened with

1014
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:34,960
Speaker 2: the brothers Harball. What deal did they lose that they're

1015
00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:38,360
Speaker 2: so They're squads are so injury riddled at this point

1016
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:40,880
Speaker 2: in the season, and it seems like both at XCISE

1017
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:43,759
Speaker 2: the exercised those demons in the past, but they come

1018
00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:46,760
Speaker 2: back in big order. For the Chargers, they're calling around

1019
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:50,520
Speaker 2: trying to find able bodied running backs. Nahim Heines has

1020
00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:53,239
Speaker 2: to be activated for this one. But I think the

1021
00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:58,400
Speaker 2: more interesting side is Miami, and they got out to

1022
00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:01,440
Speaker 2: a great start last week week before it faded again

1023
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:05,160
Speaker 2: the last last gasp effort. But we know it'll be

1024
00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:09,080
Speaker 2: eighty plus degrees down there, warm and an opportunity, not

1025
00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:11,320
Speaker 2: that it's been cold here in Los Angeles, mind you,

1026
00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:14,239
Speaker 2: so not quite the same advantage that you might get

1027
00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:18,400
Speaker 2: somewhere else in these early season games, Greg. But for

1028
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:21,880
Speaker 2: the Dolphins, you know you have that pass from Tua

1029
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:24,640
Speaker 2: to eight chan. I highlight it only because one it

1030
00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:27,840
Speaker 2: was a great catch and to the broadcasters said, I

1031
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:30,719
Speaker 2: don't even think Tyreek Hill could do that better, Like, oh,

1032
00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:32,719
Speaker 2: I don't know that you needed to drag him into this.

1033
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:33,480
Speaker 1: But that's fine.

1034
00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:36,839
Speaker 2: But for Tua in company, we've talked about him having

1035
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:40,839
Speaker 2: to play on time to make those throws. Any improvement

1036
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:43,680
Speaker 2: as we're getting towards the midpoint of the season.

1037
00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:47,120
Speaker 3: I mean, I think Tua is what he is, and

1038
00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:50,719
Speaker 3: I think that's not going to change dramatically. It's just

1039
00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:52,400
Speaker 3: the way he has to play in order to be

1040
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:55,480
Speaker 3: an effective player. I think defensively is where they've had

1041
00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:58,719
Speaker 3: a lot of concerns, and you know, they've got the

1042
00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:01,719
Speaker 3: second year coordinator and Andy Weaver, and there's only so

1043
00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:05,560
Speaker 3: much you can do. Their corner position has really been

1044
00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:07,480
Speaker 3: a little bit of an issue due to injury, just

1045
00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:10,240
Speaker 3: due to the personnel they have. And in this league,

1046
00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:13,280
Speaker 3: if your corner position is you're trying to patch it together,

1047
00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:17,160
Speaker 3: then it's really difficult to play because then what happens.

1048
00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:19,920
Speaker 3: And the reason that's tough, Mike is not just because

1049
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:22,239
Speaker 3: you don't have great players, but then you feel as

1050
00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:26,160
Speaker 3: a coordinator you're limited in your playbook because the last

1051
00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:28,760
Speaker 3: thing you want to do is put corners playing man

1052
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:33,719
Speaker 3: coverage outside. You know, when you don't feel they can cover.

1053
00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:36,400
Speaker 3: So now what do you do with your pressures? You

1054
00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:38,880
Speaker 3: pretty much feel like I need seven in coverage, I

1055
00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:41,359
Speaker 3: can only rush for I can't get to a lot

1056
00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:43,879
Speaker 3: of my pressure schemes that I'd really like to. So

1057
00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:47,360
Speaker 3: it really impacts your play calling ability and it limits

1058
00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:48,080
Speaker 3: your playbook.

1059
00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:49,680
Speaker 2: Got to be able to win at the lote of

1060
00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:52,759
Speaker 2: scrimmage with that what natural pressure, right?

1061
00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:55,680
Speaker 1: Not bringing the extra man as you go on the

1062
00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:57,320
Speaker 1: other side for the Chargers.

1063
00:51:57,320 --> 00:52:01,320
Speaker 2: Talk about the walking wounded here, Yeah, down both tackles.

1064
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:04,640
Speaker 2: Quentin Johnson's got a hammy that's probably going to keep

1065
00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:05,440
Speaker 2: him out game time.

1066
00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:06,680
Speaker 3: I think he's been there already.

1067
00:52:06,719 --> 00:52:08,440
Speaker 1: He's out.

1068
00:52:08,520 --> 00:52:12,160
Speaker 2: You're looking at that. Talk about the running back position,

1069
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:15,719
Speaker 2: Omarion Hampton. I had started to step up as a

1070
00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:19,440
Speaker 2: runner and receiver. Yeah, down there and Herbert taking hits

1071
00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:23,480
Speaker 2: at an alarming rate. Well, how do you stop the bleeding?

1072
00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:26,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the problem is you were thinking that, Okay,

1073
00:52:27,080 --> 00:52:30,560
Speaker 3: that Hampton. You know, once Harris went down, Hampton would

1074
00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:32,960
Speaker 3: become the feature back, which he's more than capable of

1075
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:35,680
Speaker 3: being given the style he is as a runner. But

1076
00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:38,120
Speaker 3: now he's out for whatever. I guess they put him

1077
00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:41,160
Speaker 3: on IRR. So it's at least four weeks. So right

1078
00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:45,560
Speaker 3: now the two main backs are Hassan Haskins and Kamani Vidal.

1079
00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:48,440
Speaker 3: I know they brought up Hines as you said, but

1080
00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:51,680
Speaker 3: you know, they really need to be able to run

1081
00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:55,080
Speaker 3: the ball because that old line is just not good

1082
00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:58,000
Speaker 3: enough on the edges and you can't throw the ball

1083
00:52:58,040 --> 00:53:02,200
Speaker 3: by choice forty times because Herbert is just he's gonna

1084
00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:04,279
Speaker 3: get beat up. As big and strong as he is

1085
00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:06,760
Speaker 3: and as good as he is, if you can't protect,

1086
00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:09,600
Speaker 3: it's just hard to ask your quarterback to drop back

1087
00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:12,600
Speaker 3: forty times. So they're in a little bit of a dilemma.

1088
00:53:12,640 --> 00:53:14,400
Speaker 3: I'm curious, you know. Again, this will be an interesting

1089
00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:17,239
Speaker 3: game against obviously a defense that has not been great

1090
00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:20,600
Speaker 3: this year. But they're to me, they're gonna have to

1091
00:53:20,680 --> 00:53:23,400
Speaker 3: find a way to run the football to have it

1092
00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:26,399
Speaker 3: at least be meaningful. Now, does that mean they're gonna

1093
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:29,640
Speaker 3: have thirty five carries? Probably not, but it has to

1094
00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:31,759
Speaker 3: be meaningful and it has to have some kind of

1095
00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:33,000
Speaker 3: sustaining element.

1096
00:53:33,400 --> 00:53:36,080
Speaker 2: Chargers still a road favorite in this one as we

1097
00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:39,880
Speaker 2: wait for the next great interview and postgame session with

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00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:40,680
Speaker 2: Mike McDaniel.

1099
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:42,480
Speaker 1: He's great co sell at Great Coselle.

1100
00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:45,800
Speaker 2: Where you find an NFL matchup is the show forty

1101
00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:47,240
Speaker 2: six years NFL film.

1102
00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:48,759
Speaker 1: He's one of my favorites to watch.

1103
00:53:48,840 --> 00:53:51,120
Speaker 2: He's one of the most interesting guys we've got in

1104
00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:53,880
Speaker 2: this sport, and eventually he's going to be a great

1105
00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:58,759
Speaker 2: offensive coordinator and analyst somewhere somehow. Unless they can turn

1106
00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:01,000
Speaker 2: this thing around, that's wall and know him is where

1107
00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:03,560
Speaker 2: you find me, and I'll of course catch Greg every

1108
00:54:03,560 --> 00:54:07,360
Speaker 2: Thursday one pm Eastern with Colin Coward for that fifteen

1109
00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:08,320
Speaker 2: to twenty minutes.

1110
00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:10,480
Speaker 1: Of gold as they go through the film. There you go.

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00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:11,560
Speaker 1: Anything else you want to sell?

1112
00:54:12,680 --> 00:54:14,960
Speaker 3: Do I want to sell? No? I just I enjoyed

1113
00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:17,000
Speaker 3: your comedy there on. Mike McDaniel.

1114
00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:19,640
Speaker 2: You know, hey, you know they had a clip from

1115
00:54:19,680 --> 00:54:23,319
Speaker 2: last week, Raick. I defy you to pick out three,

1116
00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:24,800
Speaker 2: you know, words that made any sense.

1117
00:54:25,520 --> 00:54:26,960
Speaker 3: I just want to say this real quick. I got

1118
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:29,000
Speaker 3: a chance to talk to Mike McDaniel in detail a

1119
00:54:29,080 --> 00:54:30,880
Speaker 3: number of years ago at an event on the West

1120
00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:33,799
Speaker 3: Coast with a lot of coaches present. And he's a

1121
00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:36,200
Speaker 3: fascinating guy to talk to. I mean, just the way

1122
00:54:36,239 --> 00:54:39,560
Speaker 3: he knows football and the run game. He's and again

1123
00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:41,879
Speaker 3: that's his thing. He's considered a savant when it comes

1124
00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:45,120
Speaker 3: to the run game. And he's really fascinating to talk to.

1125
00:54:45,560 --> 00:54:49,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, when he gets going in an interview session,

1126
00:54:49,239 --> 00:54:53,040
Speaker 2: when he's ready to talk, like sometimes there's just after

1127
00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:56,239
Speaker 2: the last week's game. I can't I can't blame the

1128
00:54:56,239 --> 00:54:58,160
Speaker 2: guy for not being able to put words together on

1129
00:54:58,239 --> 00:55:00,279
Speaker 2: a couple of the questions because he's still in head

1130
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:02,399
Speaker 2: trying to figure out what the hell happened in that say, well, I.

1131
00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:05,960
Speaker 3: Think his brain works. He's so smart that I think

1132
00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:09,080
Speaker 3: sometimes his brain is you know, it's like it's like,

1133
00:55:09,160 --> 00:55:11,240
Speaker 3: you know, because I'm not a good typist on a computer,

1134
00:55:11,520 --> 00:55:14,200
Speaker 3: it's like, you know, my brain's working way faster than

1135
00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:16,000
Speaker 3: my hands can type. And then I look and see

1136
00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:17,880
Speaker 3: what I type, and I'm like, did I just type that?

1137
00:55:18,040 --> 00:55:20,719
Speaker 3: I have no idea how those letters go together, you know.

1138
00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:22,800
Speaker 3: And then I think his brain is the same. I

1139
00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:26,320
Speaker 3: think it's constantly working ahead, and it's just the thoughts

1140
00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:28,000
Speaker 3: just keep popping into his head.

1141
00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:30,080
Speaker 2: From the cinematic world for those of us who may

1142
00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:32,360
Speaker 2: not experience that in our day to day lives. We

1143
00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:34,200
Speaker 2: go back to old school and Will Ferrell in a

1144
00:55:34,280 --> 00:55:38,520
Speaker 2: debate against James Carville, where he gives a two minute

1145
00:55:38,520 --> 00:55:40,840
Speaker 2: response and Carvill just says, we have that was brilliant,

1146
00:55:40,840 --> 00:55:41,120
Speaker 2: We have.

1147
00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:42,279
Speaker 1: No response, right, right, it's it.

1148
00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:44,960
Speaker 2: I mean sometimes sometimes you go into that, no question

1149
00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:48,359
Speaker 2: about it, the unconscious greatness of a moment because you've

1150
00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:50,960
Speaker 2: done it ten thousand times or ten thousand hours.

1151
00:55:51,680 --> 00:55:53,919
Speaker 3: No, that's exactly right. But he's He's a great guy

1152
00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:55,719
Speaker 3: to talk to. That I know for sure because I've

1153
00:55:55,719 --> 00:55:56,080
Speaker 3: done it.

1154
00:55:56,320 --> 00:55:59,560
Speaker 2: Fantastic stuff. As we continue, We've got a second career.

1155
00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:00,360
Speaker 1: Stark up.

1156
00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:02,839
Speaker 2: We had two ends of the spectrum in a big

1157
00:56:02,880 --> 00:56:06,680
Speaker 2: divisional showdown. Yeah, Aaron Rodgers on one side and the

1158
00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:09,120
Speaker 2: kid is on the other. We'll talk about that as

1159
00:56:09,120 --> 00:56:12,000
Speaker 2: we continue. It's Fox Football. Sound to here, It's Fox

1160
00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:15,120
Speaker 2: Sports Radio. Get those lineups changed. We'll continue next.

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00:56:16,120 --> 00:56:19,040
Speaker 5: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in

1162
00:56:19,080 --> 00:56:22,440
Speaker 5: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio

1163
00:56:22,600 --> 00:56:26,680
Speaker 5: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to

1164
00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:30,960
Speaker 5: listen live. Welcome back in Fox Sports or Radio. It's

1165
00:56:31,000 --> 00:56:33,960
Speaker 5: Fox Football Sunday. Mike Carmen, Greg co Sell with you here.

1166
00:56:34,360 --> 00:56:39,759
Speaker 2: Countdown to kickoff here both the show presented by BETMGM

1167
00:56:39,800 --> 00:56:42,160
Speaker 2: that comes up in thirty five minutes, but the kickoff

1168
00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:44,600
Speaker 2: between the Broncos and Jets coming up in just a

1169
00:56:44,600 --> 00:56:47,239
Speaker 2: few minutes. So get those last minute lineup changes in

1170
00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:50,880
Speaker 2: as you flow. Appreciate you being with us here this

1171
00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:52,879
Speaker 2: morning at Greg co cell where you find them on Twitter.

1172
00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:56,080
Speaker 1: Find me over at Swollen Dome and Greg.

1173
00:56:56,200 --> 00:57:01,000
Speaker 2: A little bit later on, we got youth versus season veteran.

1174
00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:03,920
Speaker 2: Next week we get the Battle of the as some

1175
00:57:04,000 --> 00:57:06,800
Speaker 2: would call it the Battle of the Geriatrix, assuming Flacco's

1176
00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:09,520
Speaker 2: still upright for the Bengals when they take on the

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00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:13,800
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh Steelers. But for this week, while it's not the same,

1178
00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:16,600
Speaker 2: you know rookie age that we once knew in the

1179
00:57:16,720 --> 00:57:19,840
Speaker 2: National Football League, and Dylan Gabriel comes in at twenty

1180
00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:22,840
Speaker 2: four years old, it's him and it's Aaron Rodgers. Now

1181
00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:25,720
Speaker 2: let's hit the rewind button. Dylan Gabriel when last we

1182
00:57:25,800 --> 00:57:28,760
Speaker 2: saw him losing a heartbreaker but making some plays along

1183
00:57:28,800 --> 00:57:29,120
Speaker 2: the way.

1184
00:57:29,360 --> 00:57:31,200
Speaker 1: Bond a loan to the white side, right fan in

1185
00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:34,200
Speaker 1: motions to the left. Here's the snap over the middle.

1186
00:57:34,520 --> 00:57:39,720
Speaker 3: Good cheap has a touchdown Dylan Gabriel to David Nudjoku

1187
00:57:40,040 --> 00:57:41,520
Speaker 3: and the Browns.

1188
00:57:41,120 --> 00:57:42,120
Speaker 1: Retake the lead.

1189
00:57:42,800 --> 00:57:45,800
Speaker 2: Cleveland Radio Network on the call for the game. He

1190
00:57:45,960 --> 00:57:49,720
Speaker 2: was nineteen to thirty three, one hundred and ninety yards,

1191
00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:54,640
Speaker 2: the two scores five point eight yards to hanging asterisk

1192
00:57:54,720 --> 00:57:57,320
Speaker 2: on that for a minute, but you know, gave him

1193
00:57:57,320 --> 00:57:59,880
Speaker 2: a chance and then Wentz leads that great drive. Komen

1194
00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:04,000
Speaker 2: with the Addison touchdown. But for Dylan Gabriel, I thought

1195
00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:06,360
Speaker 2: he acquitted himself pretty nicely. When he had to push

1196
00:58:06,360 --> 00:58:08,600
Speaker 2: the ball downfield, that became a bit of an adventure,

1197
00:58:08,840 --> 00:58:12,280
Speaker 2: was scattershot passes beyond ten yards. But what did you

1198
00:58:12,280 --> 00:58:15,360
Speaker 2: see in week one in that big spot, you know what?

1199
00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:17,720
Speaker 3: I thought that for who he is and what he

1200
00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:19,440
Speaker 3: has to be in the league, if he's to be

1201
00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:24,440
Speaker 3: a solid NFL quarterback, that he showed that. Obviously, his

1202
00:58:24,600 --> 00:58:27,280
Speaker 3: arms better than people might think, but he's not necessarily

1203
00:58:27,320 --> 00:58:32,720
Speaker 3: a drive thrower, so it has to be schematically planned

1204
00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:35,440
Speaker 3: for him to be effective. Again, hit that back foot,

1205
00:58:35,480 --> 00:58:38,880
Speaker 3: get the ball out. He can do that. This is

1206
00:58:38,880 --> 00:58:40,560
Speaker 3: not a next and O point, Mike. But it didn't

1207
00:58:40,560 --> 00:58:43,480
Speaker 3: look too big for him. He played comfortably, He made

1208
00:58:43,560 --> 00:58:47,560
Speaker 3: good throws. He seemed in control. I didn't think that.

1209
00:58:47,640 --> 00:58:49,560
Speaker 3: You know, the term I always use when I watch

1210
00:58:49,640 --> 00:58:53,120
Speaker 3: quarterbacks where it just seems like everything is happening at

1211
00:58:53,160 --> 00:58:56,880
Speaker 3: breakneck speed, is he didn't look like he was playing

1212
00:58:56,920 --> 00:59:00,479
Speaker 3: too fast. He looked like he was playing for blee,

1213
00:59:00,760 --> 00:59:03,439
Speaker 3: you know. And I thought that for the most part,

1214
00:59:03,440 --> 00:59:05,160
Speaker 3: it was a very good first start.

1215
00:59:05,600 --> 00:59:06,000
Speaker 1: There you go.

1216
00:59:06,160 --> 00:59:09,120
Speaker 2: Now he builds against a Pittsburgh defense still trying to

1217
00:59:09,160 --> 00:59:12,040
Speaker 2: find its way they're a six point favorite here. Thirty

1218
00:59:12,040 --> 00:59:14,400
Speaker 2: eight and a half is the over under, so expecting

1219
00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:18,240
Speaker 2: well field goals. Jalen Warren will be back. There's an

1220
00:59:18,280 --> 00:59:22,600
Speaker 2: extra pass catcher for Aaron Rodgers out of the backfield.

1221
00:59:22,680 --> 00:59:26,040
Speaker 2: But through five weeks, Steelers still kind of try to

1222
00:59:26,080 --> 00:59:28,080
Speaker 2: find their way. But the division is there to go

1223
00:59:28,160 --> 00:59:32,120
Speaker 2: and try to make your attempt to win it with

1224
00:59:32,200 --> 00:59:34,600
Speaker 2: so many injuries and uncertainty across the board.

1225
00:59:35,080 --> 00:59:37,200
Speaker 3: You know, the last game that Rogers played was a

1226
00:59:37,320 --> 00:59:40,280
Speaker 3: very very odd game because he I think he was

1227
00:59:40,320 --> 00:59:42,800
Speaker 3: eighteen for twenty two, which of course is great, but

1228
00:59:42,880 --> 00:59:45,760
Speaker 3: I think other than I think two completions to Metcalf,

1229
00:59:45,960 --> 00:59:48,880
Speaker 3: obviously the long touchdown I think it was two, might

1230
00:59:48,920 --> 00:59:51,440
Speaker 3: have been three tops, but it was. He didn't have

1231
00:59:51,480 --> 00:59:53,360
Speaker 3: any ten plus yard completions.

1232
00:59:53,560 --> 00:59:56,959
Speaker 1: Yeah, eighty yard long, So do that math.

1233
00:59:57,040 --> 00:59:59,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I think he was eighteen for twenty

1234
00:59:59,400 --> 01:00:02,640
Speaker 3: two for two hundred yards me correctly, yes, sir, And

1235
01:00:02,680 --> 01:00:05,480
Speaker 3: so you take away that long touchdown. He had seventeen

1236
01:00:05,520 --> 01:00:08,040
Speaker 3: completions for what one hundred and twenty yards. It was

1237
01:00:08,080 --> 01:00:10,200
Speaker 3: a very odd game. Now, obviously didn't turn the ball

1238
01:00:10,240 --> 01:00:14,920
Speaker 3: over and that's always critical, but it was it was

1239
01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:17,080
Speaker 3: a strange game. A lot of people say after the game,

1240
01:00:17,160 --> 01:00:19,160
Speaker 3: the boy that was his best game as a Steeler,

1241
01:00:19,520 --> 01:00:23,760
Speaker 3: But it was just more of playing that particular game.

1242
01:00:24,160 --> 01:00:25,880
Speaker 3: You know. I don't think you can play that way

1243
01:00:25,920 --> 01:00:29,120
Speaker 3: every single week with your pass game and beat the

1244
01:00:29,200 --> 01:00:31,520
Speaker 3: teams that you feel you're going to need to beat

1245
01:00:31,520 --> 01:00:32,480
Speaker 3: to get where you want to go.

1246
01:00:32,600 --> 01:00:35,200
Speaker 2: A couple of weeks ago, they're one of the European

1247
01:00:35,560 --> 01:00:38,160
Speaker 2: jaunts for the Minnesota Vikings. The twenty four to twenty

1248
01:00:38,200 --> 01:00:42,720
Speaker 2: one Steelers victory. Another game that's mighty interesting on the

1249
01:00:42,720 --> 01:00:45,000
Speaker 2: board here for is greg San Francisco on the road

1250
01:00:45,000 --> 01:00:48,240
Speaker 2: at Tampa. Yeah for you know, game winning drives thus

1251
01:00:48,320 --> 01:00:51,480
Speaker 2: far for Baker Mayfield, he's still without Bucky Irving and

1252
01:00:51,560 --> 01:00:53,080
Speaker 2: Evans and Godwin.

1253
01:00:52,720 --> 01:00:55,160
Speaker 1: As he goes in here, so one is out. Yeah yeah.

1254
01:00:55,160 --> 01:00:57,280
Speaker 2: So San Francisco on the other side trying to get

1255
01:00:57,320 --> 01:01:01,080
Speaker 2: guys back in. Looks like it's another for Pearce all

1256
01:01:01,200 --> 01:01:04,720
Speaker 2: but that they will have Juwan Jennings back in for

1257
01:01:04,960 --> 01:01:08,840
Speaker 2: Mac Jones today. We talked at the start of the

1258
01:01:08,880 --> 01:01:12,600
Speaker 2: season that Christian McCaffery was theorizing that he'd be a

1259
01:01:12,640 --> 01:01:16,480
Speaker 2: top pass catcher. Right now, he's third in terms of

1260
01:01:16,560 --> 01:01:20,240
Speaker 2: receptions and really taking up the slack for the injured

1261
01:01:20,320 --> 01:01:23,280
Speaker 2: Kittle and all the other potpourria guys. But one of

1262
01:01:23,280 --> 01:01:25,880
Speaker 2: the more interesting games on the slate between two front runners.

1263
01:01:26,960 --> 01:01:29,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, and obviously mac Jones has come into done a

1264
01:01:29,600 --> 01:01:31,720
Speaker 3: nice job within the context of that offense. We spoke

1265
01:01:31,760 --> 01:01:34,040
Speaker 3: about that last week, obviously because they played on that

1266
01:01:34,080 --> 01:01:38,040
Speaker 3: Thursday night game. But Baker Mayfield's playing really really good

1267
01:01:38,080 --> 01:01:42,200
Speaker 3: football right now. I mean, incredibly decisive. Ball's coming out

1268
01:01:42,880 --> 01:01:46,080
Speaker 3: moving when he has to, probably running and sc not

1269
01:01:46,160 --> 01:01:49,000
Speaker 3: running scrambling more than we've seen him do when he

1270
01:01:49,040 --> 01:01:52,640
Speaker 3: feels that it's necessary. But just the decisiveness with which

1271
01:01:52,680 --> 01:01:55,720
Speaker 3: he's getting rid of the football really really stands out

1272
01:01:55,760 --> 01:01:59,240
Speaker 3: to me. And that again speaks to how the offense

1273
01:01:59,320 --> 01:02:02,640
Speaker 3: is schemed. So he feels very comfortable, you know, hitting

1274
01:02:02,640 --> 01:02:06,200
Speaker 3: that back foot delivering the football, and they've just had

1275
01:02:06,400 --> 01:02:09,320
Speaker 3: you know, it's funny you talk about we always talk

1276
01:02:09,360 --> 01:02:12,800
Speaker 3: about concepts. The touchdown he hit to Abuka last week

1277
01:02:13,160 --> 01:02:16,720
Speaker 3: was the exact same play that they ran to beat

1278
01:02:16,760 --> 01:02:20,280
Speaker 3: the Falcons week one, the exact same pass game concept,

1279
01:02:20,600 --> 01:02:23,000
Speaker 3: and they used it week one in that critical situation.

1280
01:02:23,080 --> 01:02:25,160
Speaker 3: I believe there were under two minutes to go, and

1281
01:02:25,200 --> 01:02:28,040
Speaker 3: that was the game winning touchdown. And then last week

1282
01:02:28,120 --> 01:02:32,720
Speaker 3: on a Bookah's touchdown, which was I believe twenty yards

1283
01:02:32,840 --> 01:02:35,800
Speaker 3: or so, it was the exact same concept. So you know,

1284
01:02:35,840 --> 01:02:39,000
Speaker 3: you can come back to concepts when you feel that

1285
01:02:39,080 --> 01:02:41,840
Speaker 3: you're getting a particular coverage that you anticipate.

1286
01:02:42,160 --> 01:02:46,280
Speaker 2: We also have the rarity as of right now, Amika

1287
01:02:46,280 --> 01:02:49,800
Speaker 2: Abuka is the favorite to win Offensive.

1288
01:02:49,400 --> 01:02:50,120
Speaker 1: Rookie of the Year.

1289
01:02:50,600 --> 01:02:51,560
Speaker 3: He's a really good play.

1290
01:02:51,600 --> 01:02:54,440
Speaker 2: I often see that right where the wide receiver jumps

1291
01:02:54,520 --> 01:02:55,560
Speaker 2: up to the top of the heap.

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Speaker 3: So well, what's interesting about that is even week one

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Speaker 3: on that touch down, and this was week one, the

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01:03:02,000 --> 01:03:05,080
Speaker 3: play was designed for him, as was the twenty yard

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Speaker 3: touchdown this week. If they got the coverage they anticipated,

1296
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Speaker 3: which they did get, then the play is designed for

1297
01:03:11,000 --> 01:03:13,240
Speaker 3: Abuca and he's got to win one on one on

1298
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Speaker 3: the outside, and he did so. Just to show you

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Speaker 3: how a rookie they feel right now that in sort

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Speaker 3: of critical, high leverage situations might that he can win

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01:03:22,600 --> 01:03:23,800
Speaker 3: one on one on the outside.

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Speaker 2: Just think of what this offense looks like if they

1303
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Speaker 2: can get all of these guys back in healthy for

1304
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Speaker 2: the stretch run. Fantastic stuff coming out of the NFC South.

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Speaker 2: Another game to preview plenty more as we continue, But first,

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Speaker 2: before we get to kick off, let's go over to

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Speaker 2: the news desk with our guy, Dan Bayer, my tag

1308
01:03:40,560 --> 01:03:42,360
Speaker 2: team partner the I Watch a Plex Podcast.

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Speaker 1: You'll hear him later on End Zone Radio. Dan, what's

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Speaker 1: going on?

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Speaker 6: Broncos and Jets got the anthems done with in London

1312
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Speaker 6: and they're about to kick off to continue Week six.

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Speaker 6: Now one of the key games coming up later on today.

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Speaker 6: You guys just touched on Niners. In Buccaneers forty nine,

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Speaker 6: Ers quarterback Mac Jones is expected to start, despite his

1316
01:03:59,400 --> 01:04:03,040
Speaker 6: questionable time obviously starting four brock Perty, who could return

1317
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Speaker 6: in week seven, according to reports from the NFL Network.

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Speaker 6: Juwan Jennings also expected to go today for San Francisco,

1319
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Speaker 6: who again will be without Ricky Piersall as well. More

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01:04:12,320 --> 01:04:14,920
Speaker 6: wide receiver News Ravens wide out Z Flowers should go

1321
01:04:14,960 --> 01:04:18,280
Speaker 6: today against the Rams, while the Chargers aren't expected to

1322
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Speaker 6: have Quinton Johnston against the Dolphins today in South Florida,

1323
01:04:21,960 --> 01:04:26,320
Speaker 6: Cardinals aren't Indianapolis facing the Colts. They're preparing Arizona is

1324
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Speaker 6: to start Jacoby Brisseta quarterback in place of Kyler Murray,

1325
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Speaker 6: who nursed a foot injury all week in practice. That's

1326
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Speaker 6: from the NFL Network, and the trade deadline is coming

1327
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Speaker 6: up on November fourth, that's a Tuesday, just after Week nine.

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Speaker 6: NFL Network reported earlier today that Saint Sworting back Alvin

1329
01:04:41,680 --> 01:04:44,200
Speaker 6: Kamaras told the team's front office he doesn't want to

1330
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Speaker 6: leave New Orleans. Kamara is expected to suit up and

1331
01:04:46,480 --> 01:04:49,959
Speaker 6: play today against the Patriots. Some play college football lastnight,

1332
01:04:50,080 --> 01:04:53,040
Speaker 6: Number eighteen by utahped Arizona in double overtime thirty three

1333
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Speaker 6: to twenty seven, while Utah was a victor against twenty

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Speaker 6: first Drink Arizona forty two to ten. If you missed

1335
01:04:58,560 --> 01:05:00,800
Speaker 6: at Penn State quarterback Drew Allo so for that injury

1336
01:05:00,800 --> 01:05:04,800
Speaker 6: against Northwestern yesterday done for the season as Penn State

1337
01:05:04,840 --> 01:05:07,520
Speaker 6: took another loss. Brewers beat the Cubs last night for

1338
01:05:07,560 --> 01:05:10,160
Speaker 6: three to one to advance to the National League Championship Series.

1339
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Speaker 6: They'll start their matchup with the Dodgers tomorrow night in Milwaukee.

1340
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Speaker 6: But tonight on Fox eight o'clock Eastern, tom Mariners and

1341
01:05:16,200 --> 01:05:19,040
Speaker 6: Blue Jays in Game one of the Alcs.

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Speaker 1: Guys, thank you, thanks so much.

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01:05:21,000 --> 01:05:23,080
Speaker 2: Dan at Dan Byer on Fox. Where you find him

1344
01:05:23,120 --> 01:05:25,240
Speaker 2: on Twitter. You find me over at Swallow Dome. Thanks

1345
01:05:25,240 --> 01:05:27,880
Speaker 2: for being with us here. It's Fox Football Sunday, Fox

1346
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Speaker 2: Sports Radio. Find Greg co Sale at Greg Coasel all

1347
01:05:31,120 --> 01:05:35,200
Speaker 2: the latest video clips and where you can best sample

1348
01:05:35,240 --> 01:05:40,120
Speaker 2: his work in the larger sporting universe. So much going on, Greg,

1349
01:05:40,160 --> 01:05:42,560
Speaker 2: as we get ready here for week six. This game

1350
01:05:42,640 --> 01:05:45,720
Speaker 2: is now kicked off and we're underway of what's going

1351
01:05:45,760 --> 01:05:49,760
Speaker 2: to be a thrilling Sunday of action with that doubleheader

1352
01:05:49,760 --> 01:05:54,000
Speaker 2: on Monday. Of course, Buffalo, Atlanta, Chicago, Washington, Minnesota and

1353
01:05:54,120 --> 01:05:56,360
Speaker 2: Houston taking the week off. I wanted to go to

1354
01:05:56,360 --> 01:05:58,520
Speaker 2: one of the matchups might be a little bit lesser,

1355
01:05:58,560 --> 01:06:01,640
Speaker 2: but I know we always have our common conversation with Breon,

1356
01:06:01,760 --> 01:06:05,560
Speaker 2: our executive producer, about her beloved Saints. They've got a

1357
01:06:05,600 --> 01:06:07,960
Speaker 2: big match game later on. All right, like here we

1358
01:06:08,000 --> 01:06:09,919
Speaker 2: go here, here's a little bit of a highlight reel.

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Speaker 7: Rat one under center play action stands in the middle

1360
01:06:12,960 --> 01:06:13,320
Speaker 7: proves it.

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Speaker 3: Teep, he's got a wide open Chin said, how is

1362
01:06:16,640 --> 01:06:21,360
Speaker 3: supposed to play? Thirty twenty See later.

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Speaker 5: Shuts down Saints eighty seven.

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Speaker 2: Yards Saints Radio Network, of course, Greg. You know Rashid Shaheeda,

1365
01:06:29,840 --> 01:06:32,320
Speaker 2: guy that I think on our I watch a Flex

1366
01:06:32,360 --> 01:06:35,800
Speaker 2: Fantasy podcast, we've mentioned his name more like we were

1367
01:06:35,800 --> 01:06:40,680
Speaker 2: invoking Beetlejuice than anybody outside of the UH. This this

1368
01:06:40,840 --> 01:06:43,400
Speaker 2: the city of New Orleans, like they talk about it, right,

1369
01:06:43,440 --> 01:06:46,080
Speaker 2: But here was a huge trow for Rattler. We think

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Speaker 2: through five weeks, I'm I'm feeling pretty good about him.

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Speaker 3: You know, Shaheit's one of those guys by the way

1372
01:06:52,760 --> 01:06:54,800
Speaker 3: that he's There's not many in the league, but he's

1373
01:06:54,800 --> 01:06:58,640
Speaker 3: one that has terrifying speed. Jameson Williams is another that

1374
01:06:58,720 --> 01:07:01,600
Speaker 3: comes to mind. I guess put worthy in that category

1375
01:07:01,640 --> 01:07:04,200
Speaker 3: from the Chiefs, but he hasn't necessarily played like that

1376
01:07:04,320 --> 01:07:06,600
Speaker 3: or it hasn't shown up yet within the context of

1377
01:07:06,640 --> 01:07:09,680
Speaker 3: their offense. But you know, that play to me, that

1378
01:07:09,720 --> 01:07:11,640
Speaker 3: play is football to me, and I'm going to tell

1379
01:07:11,640 --> 01:07:15,000
Speaker 3: you why, because that is Kellen Morris is a very

1380
01:07:15,040 --> 01:07:17,080
Speaker 3: good offensive coach, and he's obviously the head coach for

1381
01:07:17,160 --> 01:07:19,400
Speaker 3: the Saints. But that play came out of what we

1382
01:07:19,440 --> 01:07:24,080
Speaker 3: call thirteen personnel mike, one back and three tight ends, okay,

1383
01:07:24,640 --> 01:07:26,680
Speaker 3: And what they did is they knew they would get

1384
01:07:27,000 --> 01:07:30,080
Speaker 3: a coverage when they were in thirteen personnel. So they

1385
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Speaker 3: send one of the tight ends, Johnson, across the formation

1386
01:07:33,640 --> 01:07:36,840
Speaker 3: outside of Shahed, and you know what that did. It

1387
01:07:36,880 --> 01:07:40,080
Speaker 3: put Shahed on the safety. So now you're getting a

1388
01:07:40,240 --> 01:07:44,160
Speaker 3: guy with terrifying speed Shahed running a deep sale route

1389
01:07:44,200 --> 01:07:47,480
Speaker 3: against a safety. It happened to be Tyler Nuban. That's football.

1390
01:07:47,520 --> 01:07:51,080
Speaker 3: That's matchup football through the deployment of personnel and motion.

1391
01:07:51,480 --> 01:07:54,320
Speaker 3: That's one reason I love football so much, those kinds

1392
01:07:54,360 --> 01:07:56,680
Speaker 3: of things. When I see that and I'm watching tape

1393
01:07:56,680 --> 01:07:59,040
Speaker 3: in my office here at NFL Films, that just brings

1394
01:07:59,040 --> 01:08:00,000
Speaker 3: a smile to my face.

1395
01:08:00,560 --> 01:08:02,959
Speaker 2: Big play there for the Saints. On the other side,

1396
01:08:02,960 --> 01:08:05,640
Speaker 2: we look at New England where we got Drake May

1397
01:08:05,640 --> 01:08:08,600
Speaker 2: and company coming off a huge win last Sunday night.

1398
01:08:09,240 --> 01:08:12,400
Speaker 2: Things starting to piece together with Stefan Diggs as the

1399
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Speaker 2: leader of that receiving corps.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and by the way, did you see the first

1401
01:08:16,560 --> 01:08:19,800
Speaker 3: player there winning drive where literally May was being taken

1402
01:08:19,840 --> 01:08:21,800
Speaker 3: to the ground by Dakwan Jones and he just kind

1403
01:08:21,800 --> 01:08:23,559
Speaker 3: of flipped it to Diggs and it ended up being

1404
01:08:23,560 --> 01:08:24,280
Speaker 3: twelve yards.

1405
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Speaker 1: It's a beautiful thing.

1406
01:08:25,680 --> 01:08:28,559
Speaker 3: If Josh Allen or Mahomes did that wouldn't we be

1407
01:08:28,560 --> 01:08:31,360
Speaker 3: seeing it for three weeks? Sure, May with May, it

1408
01:08:31,439 --> 01:08:35,000
Speaker 3: almost didn't even know what happened. But May has been

1409
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Speaker 3: really good this year. He's been outstanding on third down.

1410
01:08:38,640 --> 01:08:42,000
Speaker 3: He's been outstanding versus Blitz. These are rarities for a

1411
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Speaker 3: quarterback in his second season in a brand new offense.

1412
01:08:45,400 --> 01:08:48,639
Speaker 3: So essentially he's in his first season in this offense

1413
01:08:48,680 --> 01:08:54,160
Speaker 3: because the learning starts over. So he's he's played exceptionally well.

1414
01:08:54,880 --> 01:08:58,400
Speaker 3: He made on that final drive, you know, not only

1415
01:08:58,439 --> 01:09:01,320
Speaker 3: that play we just mentioned, but then to Booty he

1416
01:09:01,320 --> 01:09:04,120
Speaker 3: had a nineteen yarder which was a big timehole shot

1417
01:09:04,120 --> 01:09:06,599
Speaker 3: in the outside void and cover two. Not an easy

1418
01:09:06,640 --> 01:09:09,040
Speaker 3: throw not to throw a lot of quarterbacks even see

1419
01:09:09,120 --> 01:09:12,920
Speaker 3: is viable, and he made it. He's really progressing nicely.

1420
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Speaker 1: Yeah, this is one of the fun games. I think.

1421
01:09:15,200 --> 01:09:17,479
Speaker 2: On the undercard of this, we talked about Campara and

1422
01:09:17,560 --> 01:09:20,880
Speaker 2: the trademarket, Kendriy Miller stepping up a little bit more

1423
01:09:21,439 --> 01:09:23,960
Speaker 2: in that running situation for New England. They need to

1424
01:09:23,960 --> 01:09:27,280
Speaker 2: figure out ball security drills both those runs. Yes, I

1425
01:09:27,320 --> 01:09:30,440
Speaker 2: don't know what's going on in there, but difficult times.

1426
01:09:30,479 --> 01:09:33,280
Speaker 3: I know, especially Stevenson because he's actually a good back

1427
01:09:33,360 --> 01:09:35,639
Speaker 3: and and you know Ray, but not that any coach

1428
01:09:35,680 --> 01:09:38,679
Speaker 3: would would be okay with it. But but Mike Rabel's

1429
01:09:38,840 --> 01:09:42,439
Speaker 3: probably not walking him around saying kumbayau when he does that.

1430
01:09:42,600 --> 01:09:46,639
Speaker 3: So you know, although I'll tell you what, he's still

1431
01:09:46,640 --> 01:09:49,160
Speaker 3: putting him on the field. So they're they're showing confidence

1432
01:09:49,200 --> 01:09:51,920
Speaker 3: in him and basically telling him, hey, we need you

1433
01:09:52,040 --> 01:09:54,840
Speaker 3: to be out there, and you know, but you're gonna

1434
01:09:54,840 --> 01:09:56,639
Speaker 3: have to You're gonna have to hold on to the football.

1435
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that was one of the things I do, you know,

1436
01:09:58,840 --> 01:10:02,600
Speaker 2: a bunch of little blurbs for preview for fantasy magazines

1437
01:10:02,640 --> 01:10:05,120
Speaker 2: and stuff. Still and that was one of those. All right,

1438
01:10:05,160 --> 01:10:06,560
Speaker 2: which guy, are you a little afraid of it? And

1439
01:10:06,560 --> 01:10:09,400
Speaker 2: I said, well, for ball security eventually comes off the field. Well,

1440
01:10:09,439 --> 01:10:12,160
Speaker 2: clearly I'm wrong. I'm right on the ball security issues,

1441
01:10:12,240 --> 01:10:14,800
Speaker 2: right right right, not costing them time just yet. All right,

1442
01:10:14,880 --> 01:10:19,120
Speaker 2: let's continue. We've got a massive matchup. Fifty three is

1443
01:10:19,200 --> 01:10:21,920
Speaker 2: blinking at me as I look at it. Detroit in

1444
01:10:22,000 --> 01:10:27,160
Speaker 2: Kansas City, fireworks galore. You mentioned Xavier Worthy looking for him,

1445
01:10:27,200 --> 01:10:30,559
Speaker 2: Kareem hunt me becoming a more of a staple in

1446
01:10:30,600 --> 01:10:34,080
Speaker 2: that Kansas City backfield. But you know, the thing that

1447
01:10:34,160 --> 01:10:37,479
Speaker 2: stood out once again last week as they take NL

1448
01:10:37,720 --> 01:10:40,679
Speaker 2: was why is Patrick Mahomes still running the ball so much?

1449
01:10:40,800 --> 01:10:42,599
Speaker 1: Get away from that, that's not waiting football.

1450
01:10:43,760 --> 01:10:47,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I can't figure the Chiefs out, and

1451
01:10:47,080 --> 01:10:50,920
Speaker 3: I'll tell you why they continue to be limited in

1452
01:10:51,000 --> 01:10:55,120
Speaker 3: their structured pass game. You know, there's almost no timing

1453
01:10:55,240 --> 01:10:58,920
Speaker 3: pass game at the intermediate levels, and that's been the

1454
01:10:58,960 --> 01:11:01,880
Speaker 3: case for most of two seasons. And I can't tell

1455
01:11:01,920 --> 01:11:05,360
Speaker 3: you why that's the case. But there's quite a contrast

1456
01:11:05,360 --> 01:11:09,280
Speaker 3: in this game because of that. Because the Lions, they

1457
01:11:09,320 --> 01:11:13,200
Speaker 3: have a great timing pass game basically between the numbers

1458
01:11:13,240 --> 01:11:17,960
Speaker 3: at the intermediate level, and they do such a great job.

1459
01:11:18,000 --> 01:11:21,040
Speaker 3: When you watch the Lions pass game, Mike, the choreography,

1460
01:11:21,080 --> 01:11:24,639
Speaker 3: the spacing of the route concepts, and the combinations, particularly

1461
01:11:24,680 --> 01:11:28,599
Speaker 3: against zone coverage is so so good, and for some

1462
01:11:28,680 --> 01:11:32,519
Speaker 3: reason with the Chiefs you're just not seeing that well.

1463
01:11:32,600 --> 01:11:35,880
Speaker 2: You even get the extra passing efforts of David Montgomery

1464
01:11:35,920 --> 01:11:36,800
Speaker 2: to make it look that much.

1465
01:11:37,320 --> 01:11:39,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, in the red zone, where they're very good. By

1466
01:11:39,240 --> 01:11:41,160
Speaker 3: the way, they're very good in the red zone.

1467
01:11:41,160 --> 01:11:43,719
Speaker 1: Seems Ben Johnson left a couple of those plays behind.

1468
01:11:44,680 --> 01:11:48,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, and the other thing about the Lions, which is

1469
01:11:48,479 --> 01:11:51,240
Speaker 3: really high level, is their play action pass game and

1470
01:11:51,600 --> 01:11:54,840
Speaker 3: under center. There have been Gobs had fifty play action

1471
01:11:54,960 --> 01:11:59,040
Speaker 3: dropbacks this year, forty eight have been under center. That's

1472
01:11:59,080 --> 01:12:02,000
Speaker 3: the way they play. That foundation of their offense and

1473
01:12:02,040 --> 01:12:02,679
Speaker 3: their pass.

1474
01:12:02,479 --> 01:12:04,519
Speaker 2: Game almost brings a tear to my eye thinking of

1475
01:12:04,520 --> 01:12:05,479
Speaker 2: football the way it was.

1476
01:12:05,400 --> 01:12:06,160
Speaker 1: When I grew up.

1477
01:12:06,800 --> 01:12:09,439
Speaker 3: I know, yeah, it's well, you know what they do that,

1478
01:12:09,600 --> 01:12:11,800
Speaker 3: The Rams do that. There's a number of teams that

1479
01:12:11,800 --> 01:12:14,320
Speaker 3: have sort of gone back to that because play action

1480
01:12:14,479 --> 01:12:17,559
Speaker 3: under center is more effective than play action in the shotgun.

1481
01:12:17,680 --> 01:12:20,639
Speaker 2: And then we talked about the Rams and Ravens. Quickly,

1482
01:12:20,640 --> 01:12:23,919
Speaker 2: we talked about the Ravens and the cavalcade of injuries

1483
01:12:24,120 --> 01:12:27,160
Speaker 2: there for the Rams. Matthew Stafford throwing the ball well

1484
01:12:27,439 --> 01:12:30,639
Speaker 2: again be set by some issues with ball security by

1485
01:12:30,640 --> 01:12:33,720
Speaker 2: his running backs. But Kyron Williams is that guy Blake

1486
01:12:33,760 --> 01:12:38,000
Speaker 2: Koram was sent just to be a bystander last week.

1487
01:12:38,040 --> 01:12:41,200
Speaker 2: But between Adams and Nakua, two grades going up against

1488
01:12:41,520 --> 01:12:44,559
Speaker 2: a really beliegued Baltimore secondary.

1489
01:12:44,520 --> 01:12:45,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, this is one of those games and

1490
01:12:46,040 --> 01:12:47,760
Speaker 3: this is why the NFL is crazy. We have no

1491
01:12:47,840 --> 01:12:49,439
Speaker 3: idea how it's going to play out. But you look

1492
01:12:49,439 --> 01:12:52,040
Speaker 3: at this game right now as we talk on Sunday morning,

1493
01:12:52,160 --> 01:12:53,920
Speaker 3: and you just have to believe that the past game

1494
01:12:53,960 --> 01:12:55,920
Speaker 3: of the Rams is going to have a nice day.

1495
01:12:56,280 --> 01:12:58,880
Speaker 3: But I love the way they use Nakua. I mean

1496
01:12:58,960 --> 01:13:01,960
Speaker 3: they move him all around. He's kind of a motion player.

1497
01:13:02,600 --> 01:13:06,479
Speaker 3: He lines up with different splits, different spots. The way

1498
01:13:06,520 --> 01:13:09,599
Speaker 3: they get him into his routes is so so good.

1499
01:13:10,000 --> 01:13:12,880
Speaker 3: And then DeVante Adams has essentially become what we call

1500
01:13:12,920 --> 01:13:15,639
Speaker 3: the boundary X. He's the single receiver to the short

1501
01:13:15,680 --> 01:13:17,880
Speaker 3: side of the field. He's pretty defined in that role.

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Speaker 3: But one could argue Matthew Stafford's have one right now,

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01:13:21,439 --> 01:13:23,439
Speaker 3: is having one of his best years and what is

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01:13:23,479 --> 01:13:25,320
Speaker 3: he thirty seven years old something like that.

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Speaker 2: All those questions about he retiring, how bads the back,

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01:13:29,400 --> 01:13:31,479
Speaker 2: will he hold up? All of those things? Right now

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01:13:31,479 --> 01:13:34,520
Speaker 2: he's been just absolutely brilliant. Talk about all the injuries

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01:13:34,520 --> 01:13:38,000
Speaker 2: in that that Raven side real quick, Zay Flowers questionable,

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01:13:38,080 --> 01:13:40,639
Speaker 2: looks like he will go. But of course Lamar Jackson

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01:13:40,720 --> 01:13:45,360
Speaker 2: is out, Rokwan Smith is out. Marlon Humphrey and Ronnie

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01:13:45,360 --> 01:13:47,320
Speaker 2: Stanley look like they're going to give it a go.

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01:13:48,040 --> 01:13:50,920
Speaker 2: But they were both limited early week practice, so we'll

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01:13:50,960 --> 01:13:53,240
Speaker 2: see just a bit of a mess. And then you've

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01:13:53,240 --> 01:13:57,120
Speaker 2: got Kyle Hamilton expected to go all still with the

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01:13:57,200 --> 01:13:59,519
Speaker 2: blinking red letters, but at least going to give it

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01:13:59,560 --> 01:13:59,920
Speaker 2: the old cop.

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Speaker 1: Let's try.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they just made the trade for alone Gilman, the

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01:14:03,120 --> 01:14:05,920
Speaker 3: safety from the Chargers, and you know, obviously he's going

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01:14:05,960 --> 01:14:08,400
Speaker 3: to a new team, but he might get forty snaps.

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01:14:08,400 --> 01:14:10,640
Speaker 3: I mean he's healthy right now. They're just looking for

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01:14:10,760 --> 01:14:11,559
Speaker 3: healthy bodies.

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Speaker 1: That's it.

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Speaker 2: Try to get the eleven and succeed and proceed as

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01:14:16,920 --> 01:14:18,559
Speaker 2: we go at Greg CoA cell where you find him

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01:14:18,560 --> 01:14:19,200
Speaker 2: in the twitterverse.

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01:14:19,200 --> 01:14:20,559
Speaker 1: Find me over at Swollen Dome.

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Speaker 2: As we continue, we still have a couple of big

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01:14:22,720 --> 01:14:25,720
Speaker 2: Monday night matchups and some cleanup on two others. We'll

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Speaker 2: do that as we finish up here. It's Fox Football

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Speaker 2: Sunday on Fox Sports Radio. Welcome back in Fox Sport.

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Speaker 2: It's a radio coming up in ten minutes from now.

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01:14:34,160 --> 01:14:37,320
Speaker 2: You've got countdown to Kickoff presented by bet MGM. As

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01:14:37,360 --> 01:14:40,719
Speaker 2: we're here in the Fox Sports Radio studios, the game

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01:14:40,800 --> 01:14:45,040
Speaker 2: is underway in London and I predicted a field goal

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01:14:45,120 --> 01:14:48,120
Speaker 2: kicking contest and well thus far, that's what we got

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01:14:48,120 --> 01:14:51,599
Speaker 2: three to three midway through the first quarter. As we

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01:14:51,720 --> 01:14:54,320
Speaker 2: roll on a couple more games left to get through.

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01:14:54,400 --> 01:14:56,960
Speaker 2: Mike Harbon alongside Greg co Sell at greg CoA cell

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01:14:57,000 --> 01:14:59,960
Speaker 2: where you find him on Twitter, Dallas and we talk

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01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:01,680
Speaker 2: talked about the offensive efficiency.

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01:15:02,200 --> 01:15:04,080
Speaker 1: I would not have believed.

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01:15:03,960 --> 01:15:07,160
Speaker 2: As I started going through numbers that Bryce Young has

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01:15:07,240 --> 01:15:11,719
Speaker 2: the most red zone pass attempts national Football League this season.

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01:15:12,760 --> 01:15:15,160
Speaker 3: Yeah. I wouldn't have believed that either. But you said

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01:15:15,160 --> 01:15:17,160
Speaker 3: something earlier, kind of as an aside, when you were

1547
01:15:17,160 --> 01:15:20,240
Speaker 3: going through the top running backs in terms of yardage.

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01:15:20,760 --> 01:15:23,920
Speaker 3: I think Gavante Williams is being overlooked now. I remember

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01:15:24,000 --> 01:15:26,559
Speaker 3: when he came out of North Carolina and I loved

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01:15:26,560 --> 01:15:28,679
Speaker 3: his tape, and then he had the really good rookie

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01:15:28,680 --> 01:15:31,479
Speaker 3: season with Denver, looked like he'd be a really good back,

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01:15:31,720 --> 01:15:35,400
Speaker 3: and then he had multiple lower body injuries, including ACL

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01:15:35,960 --> 01:15:38,599
Speaker 3: and this year he looks like the old Javanta Williams.

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01:15:38,600 --> 01:15:41,920
Speaker 3: And I know the focus has been on Prescott and

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01:15:41,960 --> 01:15:45,559
Speaker 3: he's played extremely well, but Javanta Williams has been a

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01:15:45,600 --> 01:15:47,479
Speaker 3: pretty significant part of that offense.

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01:15:47,840 --> 01:15:51,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, already six touchdowns on the year, seventy nine carries,

1558
01:15:51,680 --> 01:15:54,600
Speaker 2: averaging five point seven yards with carry, and that was

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01:15:54,640 --> 01:15:56,920
Speaker 2: the big question coming into the year was you know.

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01:15:57,040 --> 01:15:58,679
Speaker 1: They run the ball, could they run it at all?

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01:15:59,000 --> 01:16:02,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's been fantast Also seventeen receptions out of the backfield,

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01:16:03,160 --> 01:16:06,960
Speaker 2: so a nice boom there as well. But it's good

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01:16:07,000 --> 01:16:09,000
Speaker 2: to see a guy get another shot, right. We talked

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01:16:09,040 --> 01:16:11,400
Speaker 2: about the quarterbacks a lot, but it's good to see

1565
01:16:11,439 --> 01:16:14,240
Speaker 2: other players get a chance to resurface and reclaim it.

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01:16:14,280 --> 01:16:17,439
Speaker 2: We talked a lot with JK. Dobbins earlier now being

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01:16:17,439 --> 01:16:19,519
Speaker 2: featured in the game. That's yes, that's on in front

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01:16:19,520 --> 01:16:23,200
Speaker 2: of me. But for Javonte Williams, a guy coming out

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01:16:23,240 --> 01:16:27,080
Speaker 2: of Denver that we had had great expectations for. At

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01:16:27,120 --> 01:16:29,880
Speaker 2: seventy nine carries, he's already halfway to his total from

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01:16:29,920 --> 01:16:33,639
Speaker 2: a year ago. No, that's exactly right, and he's stewer

1572
01:16:33,680 --> 01:16:36,200
Speaker 2: than one hundred yards behind what he did last year,

1573
01:16:36,600 --> 01:16:39,639
Speaker 2: had already more touchdown runs. You talk about all of it.

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01:16:39,760 --> 01:16:42,760
Speaker 2: It's just a great story that side. For Carolina, you

1575
01:16:42,800 --> 01:16:46,880
Speaker 2: got McMillan and you had the giant Rico Donnell game

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01:16:46,920 --> 01:16:48,920
Speaker 2: a week ago. Can you have a revenge game today?

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Speaker 3: You know people might forget he gained over a thousand

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01:16:52,720 --> 01:16:55,320
Speaker 3: yards last year for the Cowboys. You know, he's a

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01:16:55,439 --> 01:16:58,040
Speaker 3: solid back. Obviously had the big game last week that

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01:16:58,040 --> 01:16:59,800
Speaker 3: he's not going to do that every single week. But

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01:17:00,479 --> 01:17:03,800
Speaker 3: with Hubbard out, he's really filled that role. And when

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01:17:03,840 --> 01:17:05,680
Speaker 3: you have Bright Young as your quarterback, you need a

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01:17:05,760 --> 01:17:06,679
Speaker 3: viable run game.

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Speaker 2: It's curiosity here, just with how bad Dallas's defense has been,

1585
01:17:11,920 --> 01:17:15,240
Speaker 2: whether they can crack the code with McMillian company down road?

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01:17:15,320 --> 01:17:18,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, can can you outscore them? I guess is the question.

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01:17:18,280 --> 01:17:21,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's been bad. It's you know, it's we'll see.

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01:17:21,120 --> 01:17:24,120
Speaker 3: You know, it's still early. They're trying to figure it

1589
01:17:24,160 --> 01:17:26,639
Speaker 3: out how much man to play, how much zone to play.

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01:17:26,720 --> 01:17:28,720
Speaker 3: Right now they play more zone than any team in

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01:17:28,760 --> 01:17:32,000
Speaker 3: the league, but they've really got man corner. So it's

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01:17:32,080 --> 01:17:33,360
Speaker 3: it's not a good mix.

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01:17:33,560 --> 01:17:33,920
Speaker 1: All right.

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01:17:33,960 --> 01:17:37,519
Speaker 2: The Obligatory mentioned Tennessee and Las Vegas. We already talked

1595
01:17:37,560 --> 01:17:41,000
Speaker 2: about cam Ward Genti's good, Gino Smith is not all right.

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01:17:41,000 --> 01:17:44,759
Speaker 1: Two games Monday Football Buffalo and Atlanta.

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Speaker 2: Buffalo a favorite on the road, Michael Pennis Junior and

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01:17:47,920 --> 01:17:51,000
Speaker 2: company coming off the bye week over under sitting at

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01:17:51,000 --> 01:17:53,439
Speaker 2: a nice robust forty nine and a half from here,

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Speaker 2: any progression through the weeks because I know early on

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Speaker 2: high on penis expecting to come out of the buy

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01:18:01,120 --> 01:18:03,519
Speaker 2: because Buffalo is still missing some key contributors to.

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01:18:03,600 --> 01:18:06,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's only started seven games, you know, so I

1604
01:18:06,400 --> 01:18:08,720
Speaker 3: think the ups and downs are to be expected. He

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01:18:08,800 --> 01:18:12,639
Speaker 3: throws the ball outside the numbers really well. Bijon Robinson.

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01:18:12,680 --> 01:18:14,120
Speaker 3: To me, he's the best back in the league, and

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01:18:14,160 --> 01:18:16,240
Speaker 3: they use him really well in the pass game. I

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01:18:16,240 --> 01:18:18,400
Speaker 3: think you'll see that this week because Mooney has been

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01:18:18,400 --> 01:18:21,639
Speaker 3: declared out and so I think you'll see you'll probably

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01:18:21,680 --> 01:18:24,680
Speaker 3: see a lot of what we call twenty one pony personnel,

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01:18:24,960 --> 01:18:27,960
Speaker 3: meaning Robinson and Alzierro will be on the field together

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01:18:28,200 --> 01:18:30,680
Speaker 3: because I think they'll use Robinson as a receiver. But

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01:18:30,720 --> 01:18:33,920
Speaker 3: their defense, Mike, I studied them in detail this week.

1614
01:18:34,560 --> 01:18:37,639
Speaker 3: Albret the DC, Jeff Albrett, he is doing a great

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01:18:37,720 --> 01:18:41,439
Speaker 3: job with pressure schemes. They're a fun defense to watch.

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Speaker 2: Can't wait for that one. And then we got the

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01:18:44,040 --> 01:18:47,360
Speaker 2: final event. I think most people in Chicago were like,

1618
01:18:47,439 --> 01:18:49,519
Speaker 2: we don't need a buy right now. We're just starting

1619
01:18:49,560 --> 01:18:51,800
Speaker 2: to get it cooking right right right. But they take

1620
01:18:51,800 --> 01:18:55,599
Speaker 2: the bye week after that crazy win over Las Vegas.

1621
01:18:55,600 --> 01:18:58,280
Speaker 2: Now you got the Bears on the road at Washington,

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01:18:58,360 --> 01:19:01,240
Speaker 2: Jayden Daniels back and full of fact fifty the total

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01:19:01,439 --> 01:19:03,040
Speaker 2: Still know Terry McLaurin.

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01:19:03,439 --> 01:19:06,360
Speaker 3: Good quarterback match up here. I think that Cliff Kingsbury

1625
01:19:06,400 --> 01:19:09,439
Speaker 3: does a great job understanding his opponent. Last week they

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01:19:09,479 --> 01:19:12,519
Speaker 3: played a zone heavy team in the Chargers. The Bears

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01:19:12,520 --> 01:19:14,559
Speaker 3: play a lot his own. He does a great job

1628
01:19:14,600 --> 01:19:17,640
Speaker 3: attacking and breaking down zone coverage. And we're starting to

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01:19:17,640 --> 01:19:20,120
Speaker 3: see Caleb Williams get a little more comfortable in that

1630
01:19:20,160 --> 01:19:23,160
Speaker 3: Ben Johnson offense. And because what you're seeing, and this

1631
01:19:23,200 --> 01:19:25,920
Speaker 3: is the litmus test, is that you start to see

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01:19:25,960 --> 01:19:29,800
Speaker 3: throws between the numbers at the intermediate level. That is

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01:19:29,840 --> 01:19:33,960
Speaker 3: really the litmus test for how Williams is advancing in

1634
01:19:34,000 --> 01:19:35,360
Speaker 3: the Ben Johnson pass game.

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01:19:35,479 --> 01:19:39,080
Speaker 2: Completion percentage up to sixty two point three, not world beating,

1636
01:19:39,160 --> 01:19:42,120
Speaker 2: but not too far behind the league average. Right now,

1637
01:19:42,160 --> 01:19:45,280
Speaker 2: eight touchdowns against two picks. And you know, I joked

1638
01:19:45,320 --> 01:19:48,240
Speaker 2: earlier in the show about the grid of minus five

1639
01:19:48,320 --> 01:19:52,000
Speaker 2: to five pushing the ball downfield with more regularity, which.

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Speaker 3: Is a pretty thrower though. I got to tell you,

1641
01:19:53,920 --> 01:19:56,519
Speaker 3: clib Williams is a pretty thrower of the football, bit.

1642
01:19:56,400 --> 01:19:58,599
Speaker 2: By bit, you're seeing that all come Yeather, this will

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01:19:58,600 --> 01:20:00,559
Speaker 2: be a big one on Monday Night. Can't wait to

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01:20:00,600 --> 01:20:02,080
Speaker 2: review it with you next week.

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Speaker 1: Greg. We got a great slate ahead of us today.

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01:20:05,960 --> 01:20:08,240
Speaker 3: We sure do. I'm really excited for this week's games.

1647
01:20:08,240 --> 01:20:10,880
Speaker 3: And I hate these double headers on Monday night because

1648
01:20:10,880 --> 01:20:11,960
Speaker 3: they're on at the same time.

1649
01:20:12,160 --> 01:20:13,479
Speaker 1: I know, I mean, we just got to get you

1650
01:20:13,520 --> 01:20:14,080
Speaker 1: more coffee.

1651
01:20:14,640 --> 01:20:17,160
Speaker 2: We can get a sponsor at Greg Cosell where you

1652
01:20:17,200 --> 01:20:18,760
Speaker 2: find and find me over at Swollen Dome.

1653
01:20:18,800 --> 01:20:19,759
Speaker 1: Countdown to kickoff?

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01:20:19,880 --> 01:20:20,120
Speaker 2: Is that it?

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Speaker 1: By bet MGM Next on Fox