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Speaker 1: Your tunes about Drive on your twenty four to seven

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Speaker 1: home of the Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Good afternoon, Steeler Nation. It is the Drive here on

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Speaker 2: a Wednesday on the Steelers Audio Network. West Ruler Matt

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Speaker 2: Williamson with you for the next two hours. Matt, as

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Speaker 2: the sun is shining.

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Speaker 3: It's getting nice out there.

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Speaker 2: It's get a little bit nicer out there, which means

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Speaker 2: it'll probably snow tomorrow. That's how things work here this time.

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Speaker 3: Here toasty in Arizona for us. We're gonna get some sun.

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Speaker 4: Real toasty in Arizona.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. A couple of housekeeping reminders right off the jump here. First,

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Speaker 2: we will not have a show tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: Once in a while we have to have it in

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Speaker 3: service day, a little maintenance day.

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Speaker 2: In service day. I'm doing a parent teacher conference tomorrow

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Speaker 2: with my dad.

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Speaker 3: You're ye.

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Speaker 2: During the Cubs home opener, So yes, no show tomorrow

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Speaker 2: is I'm kind of helping helping my pops checks up

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Speaker 2: muff his bucket list of taking his sun to opening

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Speaker 2: day at Wrigley Field. My dad is from Chicago.

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Speaker 3: I just hope your flights all work out.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you and me, You and me both, I said

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Speaker 2: to him maybe we should cancel those and just drive

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Speaker 2: out tonight. We'll see, but yeah, uh that is that's

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Speaker 2: going on tomorrow. My dad. I've shared the stories before,

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Speaker 2: but he's been in Pittsburgh for thirty nine years. He's

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Speaker 2: been he's been converted to the to the Steelers and

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Speaker 2: the Penguins, but he still loves or the Yeah, to

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Speaker 2: the Steelers and the Penguins, but he still loves the

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Speaker 2: Bulls and loves the Chicago Cubs. That's his favorite team

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Speaker 2: in the.

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Speaker 3: World since day one, Yeah, since.

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Speaker 2: Since day one. Cried like a baby in twenty sixteen

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Speaker 2: when they won the World Series finally after one hundred

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Speaker 2: and eight years or whatever it was. And so him

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Speaker 2: and I think it.

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Speaker 3: Is unbelievably cool to go that long without a World Caaries, right, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mean not cool for all the Chicago Cubs fans

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Speaker 2: that went their whole life without seeing their team win

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Speaker 2: a championship.

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Speaker 3: There are many many, but many many. Anyone that had

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Speaker 3: the best World Series ever.

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Speaker 2: Believably yeah, And so we've tried in the past, but

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Speaker 2: you know, he's was a violinist and had a crazy schedule.

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Speaker 2: I worked in sports media and had had a crazy

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Speaker 2: schedule nine to five. Yeah, we had plans to do

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Speaker 2: this in twenty twenty, to go to the Cubs home

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Speaker 2: opener in March of twenty twenty, or maybe it was

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Speaker 2: like early April twenty twenty, but then COVID hit in

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Speaker 2: February and the MLB season got moved to the bubble.

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Speaker 2: So after literally probably like a decade plus year of

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Speaker 2: try and my dad and I were finally getting to Wrigley.

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Speaker 2: It'll be my first time opening Day tomorrow, but we

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Speaker 2: will be back on Friday with a show to close

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Speaker 2: down the week, and then.

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Speaker 3: Saturday, Yeah, then we're off the air zone.

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Speaker 2: Saturday, we're off Arizona for the owner's meetings. We'll have

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Speaker 2: a bonus show for you on Sunday and the front

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Speaker 2: half of the week. Next week we'll be doing all

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Speaker 2: of our shows from sunny Phoenix matt where it's gonna

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Speaker 2: be ninety some degrees. Maybe I can't.

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Speaker 3: Wait, So I can't wait to go. It will be

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Speaker 3: a blast. It's a much different environment though than the Combine. Folks,

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Speaker 3: like there's not thing's not gonna be walking by and

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Speaker 3: we grab them, you know, I mean, now every coach

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Speaker 3: will it's not really as well represented. It's the owner

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Speaker 3: all thirty two coaches omar will be there, I'm sure,

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Speaker 3: but like the higher ups and some people that don't

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Speaker 3: even are non football people in the organization. But all

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Speaker 3: in all, it's not like the running back coaches won't

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Speaker 2: Comedia people. Literally the entire football world is in Indianapolis

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Speaker 3: But like Schefter will be there, you know, the guys

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Speaker 3: like that, and maybe we can grab somebody like that,

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Speaker 3: But it's not like every fantasy dude in drafting. Yeah right,

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Speaker 3: I'll grab him, you know, right. But it is a

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Speaker 3: cool environment, and I assume we'll broadcast at the hotel

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Speaker 3: it's uncomfortably nice. I mean it really is. I mean

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Speaker 2: If it's an outdoor concert venue, the billionaire owners are

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Speaker 3: But we're out in the lawn, we're seeing the same band. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I love it, but you'll like it.

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Speaker 2: It's kind of the one of the last few things

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Speaker 2: I've got on my checklist that I haven't done by

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Speaker 2: you know, decade of NFL media.

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Speaker 3: Uh. The Owner's party is unbelievable.

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Speaker 2: I am looking forward to do I need I need

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Speaker 2: to bring a nice, nice outfit for that donnut.

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Speaker 3: I don't put a tie on, but I definitely slacks,

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Speaker 2: I meant to ask you that at some point, so

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Speaker 2: I'm glad I thought about it here.

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Speaker 3: But like you'll see Andy Reid in the Hawaiian and.

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Speaker 2: Certainly can't grow a mustache like Andy Reid can, that's

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Speaker 3: But like I went up the bar and got a

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Speaker 2: Is awesome, William, that is that is pretty cool? Yeah, hey,

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Speaker 2: That's unbelievable. No, I'm looking forward to It'll be a

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Speaker 2: fun experience. The weather is going to be great, Matt.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure you and I, despite you know, being there

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Speaker 3: But some good grub in that Neckla Woods share.

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Speaker 2: I am very excited for for some of that that

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Speaker 2: Arizona that like what southwestern corridor of the country of

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Speaker 2: and maybe a little Massa as well, Matt. Some news

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Speaker 2: us started here. It's not a ton of news of

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Speaker 2: hear what he had to say? Though pretty candidate.

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Speaker 3: Can I think he's still playing pretty well.

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Speaker 2: So does he because he said, believe me, I wish

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Speaker 2: same time, I'm very happy to be here. End quote.

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Speaker 2: I think it makes it's awesome for Cincinnati.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, ideal back up. Burrow has been hard to

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Speaker 2: I think there's a lot of those examples, And I wonder, listen,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but he was actually retired for a while.

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Speaker 2: Yah. I wonder if there's a scenario where someone's quarterback

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Speaker 3: Well, that's how he became bang on the first place.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, Joe Flacco, it's a great backup. It's absolutely

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Speaker 3: He's got to be the last of Matt Williamson recruiting

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Speaker 2: He's probably the last guy in the NFL that still

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Speaker 3: And they were created actually by a libo dude that

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Speaker 3: tapes like this, watch them all, sort them. These are

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Speaker 3: the unsolicited tapes. These are the ones that we asked

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Speaker 3: for Woodland Hills versus Penhills. Yes, put that over there, right,

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Speaker 2: I still remember my parents arguing. My dad loves Seinfeld,

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Speaker 3: Mostly I think there are some divorces that happened in

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Speaker 3: So I'll tell you one quick story about this. This

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Speaker 3: is Matt the Dork because the Weir, I think we

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Speaker 3: I recorded college football everything that was on every weekend, sure,

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Speaker 3: I would watch you know, this time of year, I

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Speaker 3: TV tapes and Excel spreadsheets were new. I would take

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Speaker 3: these draft documents that were like the Beast sent them

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Speaker 3: couple of times they'd right back, like this is really impressive.

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Speaker 3: You like, man, you know Jeah, things like that. I mean,

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Speaker 3: reruns over and over and over on all these VHS

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Speaker 2: Matt, you and I are both in a pretty uh.

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Speaker 2: Now, I think is the right way to say it.

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Speaker 3: Yes, no, no doubt, everybody did but I mean the

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Speaker 3: No. I thought VHS tapes were great. That's better than

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Speaker 2: Draft them the old Bill none special. I'm not sending

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Speaker 2: How these big.

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Speaker 2: That's always one of my favorite stories. That when when

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Speaker 2: love it. The the art of scouting and tape procurement

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Speaker 3: Brought that up, Placo did bring that up. I remember

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Speaker 3: I did definitely not watch his.

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Speaker 2: Sure, you know, that's pretty cool. Love love hearing those stories.

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Speaker 2: We'll have more of those that'll pop up throughout the offseason,

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Speaker 2: Steelers Nation Radio. Back on the drive here on this

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Speaker 2: Wednesday in Matt. What's uh? This is something that I

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so just to prefaces this doesn't mean that they

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Speaker 3: I really have unchecked boxes. My my scouting report is

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Speaker 3: definitely gonna take all these dudes, you know, it's not

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Speaker 2: Know, absolutely, And so there are and this is also,

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Speaker 3: And I'm pretty sure that the league all will know

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Speaker 2: Uh, two quarterbacks have have been on pre draft visits

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Speaker 3: He's definitely interesting. He's definitely interesting.

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Speaker 2: He's got a ton of upside. He's got the athleticism

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Speaker 3: He's big, strong, fast, athletic enough that whoever draft sim

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Speaker 2: Yes, trio of wide receivers still from last week, no

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Speaker 2: new news this week, but it was Jeff Calledwell from Cincinnati,

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Speaker 4: So those are the same trio that we discussed last year.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and Boston's not like the others. I mean Boston

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Speaker 2: Absolutely.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. The Cincinnati kid called Well was a ridiculous tester

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Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely, he's one of those guys I think you'd

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Speaker 2: out of Penn State that we discussed that that's a local,

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Speaker 2: thirty one offensive tackle we discussed last week. Markel Bell

437
00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:02,480
Speaker 2: out of Miami.

438
00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:05,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was one of the early ones we'd tackle.

439
00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:07,520
Speaker 3: He's humungus, he's six' nine one.

440
00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:09,479
Speaker 4: Guard Kaylin rutledge out Of Georgia.

441
00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:13,240
Speaker 3: Tech he's another. One makes, sense like we Often, Pigeonhole

442
00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:19,719
Speaker 3: pregnon or THE a AND m. Kid, Yeah, BISTON i

443
00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:22,560
Speaker 3: Think caldwell's or that's his. Name, yeah The Georgia tech

444
00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:26,960
Speaker 3: guy here is also a pure guard day two. Dude

445
00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:30,359
Speaker 3: that would be right in the mix for the left

446
00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:32,880
Speaker 3: guard competition right. AWAY i mean he's not he would

447
00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:34,439
Speaker 3: not be a throwaway pick at. ALL i, mean like

448
00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:36,359
Speaker 3: you're looking at him like a. Starter, yes you need

449
00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:39,880
Speaker 3: a good combine, Too so side, note that's why it's

450
00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:42,320
Speaker 3: on top of my. Head, YEAH i think we've talked

451
00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:45,879
Speaker 3: about this enough but not. Enough BUT i had a

452
00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:48,960
Speaker 3: really good. CONVERSATION i Mentioned Marcus mosher the other. Day

453
00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:51,959
Speaker 3: we recorded locked On dynasty this, morning and we were

454
00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:54,960
Speaker 3: just talking about McCarthy during his time with The cowboys

455
00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:58,360
Speaker 3: and talking a little bit more About hoffman and all,

456
00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:03,160
Speaker 3: that and basically what the reason The cowboys didn't Bring

457
00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:07,760
Speaker 3: hoffman back is because this staff just wants. Mashers like

458
00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:11,000
Speaker 3: they drafted the kid out of first round guard that's

459
00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:14,560
Speaker 3: like three hundred and forty, pounds And hoffman's three hundred

460
00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:16,639
Speaker 3: on a good. Day he can kind of struggle to

461
00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:20,399
Speaker 3: keep weight. On he's, nasty he's not. Humongous it's it's

462
00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:24,439
Speaker 3: not their. Style but it just reiterated that McCarthy's going

463
00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:26,840
Speaker 3: to be looking for athletes on the offensive. Line he's

464
00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:29,920
Speaker 3: not gonna be looking for old school fat, guys you

465
00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:32,080
Speaker 3: know WHAT i. Mean, like whoever they add on THE

466
00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:33,199
Speaker 3: o line is going to be able to.

467
00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:38,320
Speaker 2: Move that makes a lot of. Sense, yes three. Corners

468
00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:43,600
Speaker 2: Matt ephesian's price sock out Of, Washington Chris johnson out

469
00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:45,520
Speaker 2: Of San Diego. STATE i believe we mentioned both of

470
00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:48,280
Speaker 2: those last, week and then To Carrio davis out Of.

471
00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:52,560
Speaker 2: Washington so, a what a trio of yeah guys From

472
00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:53,159
Speaker 2: washington so.

473
00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:58,320
Speaker 3: Far So davis is really odd because he is a

474
00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:02,960
Speaker 3: true freaky size speed. DUDE i mean he's over sixty.

475
00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:07,639
Speaker 3: THREE i mean he's probably taller Than Porter blazed at

476
00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:11,080
Speaker 3: the forty super, Long like If Pete carroll was still

477
00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:13,200
Speaker 3: in the, league sign them, up you know WHAT i.

478
00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:16,119
Speaker 3: Mean he kind of wreak woling those type of dudes,

479
00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:19,960
Speaker 3: then SO i could see why you'd want to kick

480
00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:23,560
Speaker 3: the tires on. Him johnson doesn't add up to me,

481
00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:26,360
Speaker 3: though Unless i'm missreading the room or they just love

482
00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:31,679
Speaker 3: him because he's. Good to, Me he's not worth the

483
00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:34,680
Speaker 3: twenty first, pick and he's got about zero chance to

484
00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:37,320
Speaker 3: be there for the fifty third, pick and he's pretty

485
00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:40,959
Speaker 3: much just an outside corner kind of the prototypical size speed.

486
00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:43,760
Speaker 3: DUDE i just don't know a world where one of

487
00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:46,000
Speaker 3: their first two picks would be on an outside, corner

488
00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:49,720
Speaker 3: you know WHAT i, Mean like they have two starters

489
00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:52,560
Speaker 3: that point no, Right, YEAH i just don't quite get that,

490
00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:55,080
Speaker 3: one unless there's some medical they just wanted to get,

491
00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:57,359
Speaker 3: there you, know some other. REASON i don't.

492
00:22:57,359 --> 00:22:58,320
Speaker 2: KNOW i get what you're.

493
00:22:58,320 --> 00:22:59,720
Speaker 3: Saying in terms of THE i don't know how he

494
00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:00,600
Speaker 3: could become a.

495
00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:05,159
Speaker 2: Stealer boundary corner outside corners feeling like IT'S i, mean

496
00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:07,720
Speaker 2: he would vacancy left in that, department, RIGHT.

497
00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:09,600
Speaker 3: I mean you would think in that neighborhood where he's

498
00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:12,320
Speaker 3: gonna be a top forty. Pick that's a, starter and

499
00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:15,199
Speaker 3: you got two starters And samuel you know. RIGHT i

500
00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:16,280
Speaker 3: just don't know where that would.

501
00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:19,000
Speaker 2: Work interesting one to keep an eye. On, yeah one

502
00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:21,640
Speaker 2: defensive Lineman James Thompson junior From.

503
00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:24,080
Speaker 3: Illinois don't know much about. Him, yeah there's like two

504
00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:26,480
Speaker 3: or three names on there that are late round. PICKS

505
00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:29,320
Speaker 3: i don't know much, about including The kentucky, receiver WHICH

506
00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:29,880
Speaker 3: i should.

507
00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:32,399
Speaker 2: Know, yeah your kids aren't gonna be happy with that.

508
00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:34,159
Speaker 2: One you're about to have two wild cats in the,

509
00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:40,120
Speaker 2: House Matthew. True and then finally a trio of, linebackers

510
00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:44,080
Speaker 2: one that we might classify as a, safety that Being Kyle,

511
00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:46,200
Speaker 2: lewis of course from pitt so he is a. Local

512
00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:49,160
Speaker 2: visit to account, thirty so two local visits so, far

513
00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:54,200
Speaker 2: one Penn, stator one Pit. Panther also Met Jacob rodriguez

514
00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:54,760
Speaker 2: From Texas.

515
00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:56,400
Speaker 3: Tech, yeah that one stood out.

516
00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:58,600
Speaker 4: Too, perkins who we discussed briefly.

517
00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:00,200
Speaker 3: YESTERDAY i And thin we did talk a little bit About.

518
00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:02,320
Speaker 2: PERKINS i like Seeing Jacob rodriguez on that.

519
00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:05,919
Speaker 3: List, YEAH i just wonder if it's, like if we

520
00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:08,240
Speaker 3: get the second, round is he way too good to pass?

521
00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:12,119
Speaker 3: UP i often reference to the PODCAST i do With,

522
00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:15,280
Speaker 3: peacock AND i thought he had a really good point

523
00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:18,920
Speaker 3: About rodriguez and, said so we do a mailbag Every,

524
00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:22,760
Speaker 3: thursday you, know just like you Know twitter. Stuff and

525
00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:24,800
Speaker 3: one of the questions was come up with three or

526
00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:27,720
Speaker 3: four names that could be surprised first round picks that

527
00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:31,680
Speaker 3: no one's. Mocking and my co host Said. Rodriguez, Yeah

528
00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:33,320
Speaker 3: And i'm, like as soon as you, Said i'm, like,

529
00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:36,520
Speaker 3: Yes like what don't we like about?

530
00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:39,240
Speaker 2: Him he makes every, play he plays a position that

531
00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:41,760
Speaker 2: we've considered a non position of.

532
00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:44,080
Speaker 4: Out, yeah like like running back or tight.

533
00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:47,399
Speaker 2: End but, again if you change that lens of looking

534
00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:51,240
Speaker 2: for impact, players, right he defines the word. Impact that's

535
00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:53,080
Speaker 2: all he does is impact games all the.

536
00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:55,840
Speaker 3: Time and then he blew up the combine and you

537
00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:58,040
Speaker 3: know the big knock on him going into the, combine

538
00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:01,639
Speaker 3: which probably there was some stereo tip thinking IS i

539
00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:04,119
Speaker 3: don't know if he's athletic. Enough and then he blows

540
00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:05,840
Speaker 3: up the combine and he makes every play and he

541
00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:09,199
Speaker 3: sidelined the. Sideline and the Way brian mentioned it was

542
00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:12,919
Speaker 3: he might be linebacker. Two he might Be and if

543
00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:15,520
Speaker 3: he goes like twenty aeth The lions or, whatever, like

544
00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:17,760
Speaker 3: should we be shocked after styles off the, Board AND

545
00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:20,440
Speaker 3: i went, no because he's going to be good at, Football,

546
00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:24,840
Speaker 3: like there's no way he's a. Bust NOW i think.

547
00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:29,200
Speaker 3: It i'm not taking him at twenty. One he could

548
00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:32,320
Speaker 3: be another one of those no man's land between twenty

549
00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:34,480
Speaker 3: one and fifty three though. Too but maybe they just

550
00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:35,960
Speaker 3: looking at him like if he gets a fifty, three

551
00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:38,080
Speaker 3: we just have to take. Him oh he's our number two.

552
00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:41,399
Speaker 2: Linebacker that would BE i could certainly understand that logic

553
00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:43,399
Speaker 2: of the case where it's not towards the top of

554
00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:46,879
Speaker 2: your priority, list but just get good football.

555
00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:47,520
Speaker 3: Players, yeah he's.

556
00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:48,800
Speaker 2: Safe you missed The Detroit.

557
00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:50,400
Speaker 4: LIONS a lot of people thought they were crazy when

558
00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:50,680
Speaker 4: they Took.

559
00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:51,160
Speaker 2: Gibbs.

560
00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:51,600
Speaker 3: Yeah.

561
00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:53,000
Speaker 2: Yeah you know a lot of people thought they were

562
00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:54,080
Speaker 2: crazy when they took A.

563
00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:57,600
Speaker 3: Campbell campbell was the same, draft, right, yeah pretty well

564
00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:00,560
Speaker 3: good football. Players they impact the game. Immediately yeah.

565
00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:03,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, Uh matt just piggybacking off of.

566
00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:06,280
Speaker 2: That so that's that's what we know as of now

567
00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:09,960
Speaker 2: in terms of the credible reports of only two.

568
00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:12,840
Speaker 4: Local visits and then the rest of the pre draft visits, There.

569
00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:15,320
Speaker 3: Oh real quick On boston at least the list THAT

570
00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:19,240
Speaker 3: i saw. RECENTLY i looked. Yesterday his is, scheduled so

571
00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:21,880
Speaker 3: he hasn't been here. Yet the other ones have reportedly

572
00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:24,960
Speaker 3: been here. ALREADY i THINK i Think boston is to

573
00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:27,479
Speaker 3: be determined when he'll get. Here he just has pro,

574
00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:29,000
Speaker 3: day like couple days ago or something.

575
00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:31,399
Speaker 2: Too that would that would make sense, Then.

576
00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:33,320
Speaker 3: And that can be a sticky thing, too like some

577
00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:36,919
Speaker 3: of these dudes that maybe twenty five teams want you

578
00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:38,480
Speaker 3: to come in on. VISITS i, mean if you have

579
00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:42,120
Speaker 3: some kind of medical or LIKE i bet like McCoy From,

580
00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:44,440
Speaker 3: tennessee is going to be a lot of people just

581
00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:46,160
Speaker 3: want to get their hands on, them or they got

582
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:49,680
Speaker 3: ball it outfield questions or. Whatever you can't physically get

583
00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:52,520
Speaker 3: the twenty cities or twenty five cities between now and the.

584
00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:54,640
Speaker 3: Draft and, oh by the, way you'd like the lift

585
00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:58,040
Speaker 3: weights you're. Not, yeah, yeah.

586
00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:05,320
Speaker 2: Fell Season Steelers, Now. MATT a good kind of piece

587
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:08,520
Speaker 2: written today On steelers noow dot com by our Buddy Allen,

588
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:11,639
Speaker 2: saunders who's been on the show, before the kind of

589
00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:14,639
Speaker 2: salary cap snapshot of where The steelers. Stand.

590
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:17,120
Speaker 3: YEAH i just did a General google search For steelers

591
00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:19,359
Speaker 3: salary cap and this popped, Up, like, Oh i'm just stealing.

592
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:20,760
Speaker 3: This this is really well. Done it.

593
00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:24,440
Speaker 2: Was it's good, research good, math good due diligence By

594
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:27,080
Speaker 2: Allan and he's one of Those, yeah he's one of

595
00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:30,680
Speaker 2: those journalists that does his due diligence for. Sure this

596
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:33,560
Speaker 2: does not account he's clear to set to make. Known

597
00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:35,600
Speaker 2: this does not account for the signings of Brock hoffman

598
00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:38,080
Speaker 2: And Travis, homer, which by.

599
00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:39,800
Speaker 3: The, way he's gonna break the, bank but still they're

600
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:41,359
Speaker 3: gonna count and they're going to probably make the.

601
00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:43,800
Speaker 2: Team and by the, way both of those became official

602
00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:45,920
Speaker 2: last night after you AND i got off the. Airs

603
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:51,280
Speaker 2: we no longer have to say. Reports, yeah but at

604
00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:55,120
Speaker 2: the same, time those, guys, yeah they'll affect the salary,

605
00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:57,480
Speaker 2: cap but they're not going to massively tip the. Scales

606
00:27:57,520 --> 00:27:59,840
Speaker 2: as you, know it's not like either of them got multi,

607
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:01,800
Speaker 2: year you, know huge.

608
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:05,199
Speaker 3: Money i'm Sure homer is a league minimum one And

609
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:07,280
Speaker 3: hoffin's probably a little better than, that little better than.

610
00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 3: That but he does break this down almost down to the,

611
00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:14,240
Speaker 3: penny and those guys would, matter you, Know, yes just

612
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:15,920
Speaker 3: the way he broke this, DOWN i thought was very

613
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:16,480
Speaker 3: readable and.

614
00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:19,639
Speaker 2: Digestible so THE nfl salary cap is going to be

615
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:22,720
Speaker 2: a little over three hundred and one million, dollars it's.

616
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:24,000
Speaker 2: Estimated that's just.

617
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:26,240
Speaker 3: Insane it's gone up like one hundred million SINCE, Covid,

618
00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:26,760
Speaker 3: yeah just.

619
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:30,520
Speaker 2: Insane and The Miami dolphins have one hundred and seventy

620
00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:33,760
Speaker 2: five million of dead caps, caps so a little over

621
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:38,040
Speaker 2: three hundred, million let's, say just for easy conversation, purposes

622
00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:41,120
Speaker 2: The steelers are going to roll over just under seventeen

623
00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:43,720
Speaker 2: million from their cap last last, year right at sixteen

624
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:46,480
Speaker 2: point nine. Million so The steelers are looking at a

625
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:49,160
Speaker 2: salary cap of about three hundred and eighteen million.

626
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:51,320
Speaker 3: Dollars, yeah so they get the more to play with everybody.

627
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:54,640
Speaker 3: Else that's i, mean the rollover stuff's a real advantage.

628
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:57,120
Speaker 2: If you look right now at their top fifty one salaries,

629
00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:02,040
Speaker 2: okay fifty three man roster Count hoffman And homer top

630
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:04,920
Speaker 2: fifty one salaries right now is just a shade short

631
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 2: of two hundred and eighty million. Dollars so it's two

632
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:10,920
Speaker 2: seventy nine and. Change that combined with a little over

633
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:13,840
Speaker 2: twelve million dollars in dead, money leaves the.

634
00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:15,000
Speaker 3: Strich is low BY nfl.

635
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:19,440
Speaker 2: Standard that's especially for a team that has been winning

636
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:22,640
Speaker 2: division titles right and is not a bottom of the,

637
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:23,760
Speaker 2: barrel you, know.

638
00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:25,560
Speaker 3: Like compared To, miami as you, mentioned they had one

639
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:28,160
Speaker 3: hundred and seventy five million in Dead it's, crazy, yeah

640
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:29,960
Speaker 3: and a lot of that's menka.

641
00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:31,960
Speaker 2: Crazy and wait for you're both. Team some of the

642
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:34,040
Speaker 2: dead numbers for The eagles in the coming years are

643
00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:36,880
Speaker 2: going to be. Nuts they're Aj brown And Lane. Johnson

644
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:38,720
Speaker 2: you got to pay the piper from those cotton. Tracts,

645
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:41,600
Speaker 2: finally so a little over twelve million in dead money

646
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:44,160
Speaker 2: for The, steelers all of that math added together means

647
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:47,800
Speaker 2: The steelers currently have approximately twenty six and a half

648
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:50,240
Speaker 2: million dollars of salary cap space to play.

649
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:52,800
Speaker 3: With and if you just go to over THE caap

650
00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:55,360
Speaker 3: dot com or whatever that's near the. Top IT'S i

651
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:57,760
Speaker 3: would say it's eighth or ninth or something like. That

652
00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:02,000
Speaker 3: Most but they also don't have a, quarterback you.

653
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 2: Know and they also still have to sign their draft.

654
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:05,680
Speaker 3: Picks, yes as is. Everybody but, yeah.

655
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:07,760
Speaker 2: But but and so you might look at that and you, Say,

656
00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:11,120
Speaker 2: okay say they say they give thirteen million To Aaron,

657
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:13,880
Speaker 2: rodgers fourteen million To Aaron, rodgers the rest goes to

658
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:16,600
Speaker 2: the to the. Rookies, okay then you're.

659
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:19,000
Speaker 3: At there's still a little. Leftover you're still at left.

660
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:21,040
Speaker 2: Over but remember there's still moves they could. Make they

661
00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:23,480
Speaker 2: could still Release Malik harrison and free up some. Space

662
00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:27,320
Speaker 2: they could still restructure Some alex High smith. Types, yeah And.

663
00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:28,440
Speaker 3: Allan is a pretty good list there of all the

664
00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:31,400
Speaker 3: guys you can restructure if you need. Be you Mentioned

665
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:35,080
Speaker 3: harrison is a potential cap. Casualty i've been bringing that

666
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:37,040
Speaker 3: up for. FOREVER i don't know if it will happen or,

667
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 3: not BUT i think it saves you about another Four

668
00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:41,360
Speaker 3: maybe there's waiting for the draft to see if they

669
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:44,479
Speaker 3: land or linebacker or not, sure you, Know and that's

670
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:46,680
Speaker 3: that's one of the advantages that take. In you, know

671
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:48,240
Speaker 3: if you're sitting in the fourth, round should we take

672
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:51,320
Speaker 3: a linebacker of, Safety, well maybe should take the linebacker

673
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:54,560
Speaker 3: because we also get four million in cap space by Cutting. Harrison,

674
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:56,920
Speaker 3: sure you know there's a lot of balancing, now they're

675
00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:58,760
Speaker 3: certainly no work good at that, stuff you, know, right

676
00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:02,720
Speaker 3: that's up his. Alley could similar restructure stuff? Interesting, YEAH.

677
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:05,720
Speaker 2: Tj watt could be restructured save a little over twenty million,

678
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 2: dollars Dk metcalf about seventeen and a half and then

679
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:11,280
Speaker 2: there's a pretty significant drop off after those, two as

680
00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 2: you would. Imagine but Even ramsey about seven, million High

681
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 2: smith about six and a half, million Friar mouth about five.

682
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 2: Million Releasing Malik harrison would save you close to Five

683
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:24,680
Speaker 2: you could also Restructure Jalen warren Or Deshaun elliott to

684
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:26,400
Speaker 2: free up about two million bucks.

685
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:26,960
Speaker 3: In a little bit here and.

686
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:27,120
Speaker 2: There.

687
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:29,479
Speaker 3: Yeah so, yeah there's, moves there's levers you can.

688
00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:32,760
Speaker 2: Pull that's all in the balance of how it works

689
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:35,760
Speaker 2: with your bigger picture for next year in the coming

690
00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:39,480
Speaker 2: years and where exactly you want those hits to have

691
00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:41,880
Speaker 2: impact and what you want to kick down the road

692
00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:44,280
Speaker 2: versus what you want to eat your vegetables with right,

693
00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:45,480
Speaker 2: now as you like to.

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00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:47,920
Speaker 3: Say and if you, do go To Lake overthecap dot

695
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:50,400
Speaker 3: com or one of, those you can look at future.

696
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:53,880
Speaker 3: Years The steelers have almost as much cap space as

697
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:58,000
Speaker 3: anyone a year from, now, however and this won't influence

698
00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:02,800
Speaker 3: this year's cap that, much BUT i Imagine, porter Maybe,

699
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:05,640
Speaker 3: benton you, know some of these extensions are going to

700
00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:07,000
Speaker 3: really eat into next year's.

701
00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:10,760
Speaker 4: Cap, yes, yeah and that's still coming down the line as.

702
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:12,520
Speaker 3: Well. Yeah, yeah that's probably more of a summer.

703
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:15,640
Speaker 2: Thing that was a nice little salary cap snapshot of

704
00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:18,240
Speaker 2: where we're at right. Now make sure checking that out

705
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:20,480
Speaker 2: if you want all because there's there's really good breakdowns

706
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:22,920
Speaker 2: and how they could restructure and release and how it

707
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 2: affects the future and all those. Things our Buddy Allen

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00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:28,240
Speaker 2: saunders On Steelers now Dot com if you want to

709
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:29,760
Speaker 2: dig into that a little bit.

710
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:32,400
Speaker 3: MORE i, mean by no MEANS i think this is,

711
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:35,760
Speaker 3: coming but. Hypothetical if they wanted to trade for Aj,

712
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:39,320
Speaker 3: brown you, COULD i, mean, HEY, TJ i need you

713
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 3: to restructure and blow you, know and you can make things,

714
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:43,600
Speaker 3: work but then you don't have this kind of freedom

715
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:44,480
Speaker 3: the next year.

716
00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:46,600
Speaker 2: At this, time, right your freedom down the.

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00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:49,200
Speaker 3: Line, yeah you're not nearly as. Liquid you, know.

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00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:51,840
Speaker 2: You're as my as my dad would like to. Say

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00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:56,120
Speaker 2: and financial. Advice you're Robing peter to Pay. Paul yeah a,

720
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:58,320
Speaker 2: lot which works out a lot of times in this league.

721
00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 3: Well especially because the cap goes up everywhere every.

722
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:02,240
Speaker 2: Year but at the same time, too you don't want

723
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:05,160
Speaker 2: to Rob peter too much because eventually you're gonna have

724
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:06,520
Speaker 2: to Repay peter as, well not Just.

725
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 3: Paul, sure sure like that's What miami's finding.

726
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:11,400
Speaker 2: Out, yeah, right that's what The dolphins are finding out right,

727
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:14,000
Speaker 2: now the hard. Way let's get to our last break

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00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 2: here of the first. Hour Matt williamson walked in here

729
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 2: today when we were when we were doing our highly

730
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:23,760
Speaker 2: extensive pre production, Meeting matt walked in and, Said i've

731
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:26,280
Speaker 2: got a new draft. CRUSH i, said don't tell me.

732
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:29,880
Speaker 2: Anymore we'll talk about the. Show who Is matt's new draft,

733
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:30,560
Speaker 2: crush not.

734
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:32,680
Speaker 3: A new name or. Anything this is fifth round. Pick

735
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 3: it's JUST i might put him in the would you

736
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:38,400
Speaker 3: take him at twenty one if the genie comes out

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00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:40,800
Speaker 3: of the. Bottle he was not in that. CATEGORY i

738
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:45,959
Speaker 3: think he is Now maxie in Ature twitter loves WHEN

739
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:47,200
Speaker 3: i take him in the first round every.

740
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:49,240
Speaker 2: Market this is going to be again that meme of

741
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:51,720
Speaker 2: the boyfriend distracted boyfriend looking over his shoulder at the

742
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 2: other girl While matt now is holding It max's hand

743
00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:58,000
Speaker 2: looking over his shoulder at somebody. Else who is?

744
00:33:58,040 --> 00:33:58,120
Speaker 1: That?

745
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:00,920
Speaker 3: Sady still my Own liman? Crush if this is not in,

746
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:02,160
Speaker 3: alignment we'll find.

747
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 2: Out matt's the weird world Of Matt. Williamson this is

748
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:07,800
Speaker 2: His Valentine's. Day who does he have a crush? On

749
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:11,160
Speaker 2: we'll find out when we. Return it's The Drive Steelers

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00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:16,640
Speaker 2: Nation radio on The Steelers Audio. Network what's, UP nfl?

751
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:20,759
Speaker 5: Fans THE Nfl draft is finally, here and while you

752
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 5: might not know who your team is drafting this, year

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Speaker 1: Missouri you are tuned About drive on your twenty four

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Speaker 1: to seven home of The black And Goal Steelers Nation.

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00:34:55,120 --> 00:35:15,160
Speaker 2: Radio down the home stretch here of the first hour

763
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:18,919
Speaker 2: of the, drive and we got to find out Who

764
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:24,560
Speaker 2: matt's new draft crush. Is Matt, williamson all, right so

765
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:29,040
Speaker 2: is it somebody whose name we've mentioned more than just

766
00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:30,040
Speaker 2: like oh a?

767
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:32,200
Speaker 3: Lot, okay, yeah, yeah, YEAH i mean this is a

768
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:35,920
Speaker 3: potential first round. Dude everybody knows who he.

769
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 2: Is, offense, defense.

770
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:42,400
Speaker 3: OFFENSE i just think that, PEOPLE i think The, Internet

771
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:48,719
Speaker 3: twitter or all the mocks are vastly Underestimating Casey. Concepsio

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00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:53,400
Speaker 3: that was, okay my particularly for The.

773
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:58,880
Speaker 2: Steeler, okay my first guest was going to be one

774
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:02,800
Speaker 2: of The utah te ackles offensive. Lineman they're both, intrigued

775
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:06,279
Speaker 2: And casey conception. Was. YEAH i may or may not

776
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:08,399
Speaker 2: have also listened to one of your recent podcasts where

777
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:10,160
Speaker 2: you were talking him up a little. Bit, okay when

778
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:11,400
Speaker 2: you said, offense that came to.

779
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:15,479
Speaker 3: Mind mitheless tell me forty eight, yeah two, three four

780
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:19,959
Speaker 3: days digging, in looking at different, opinions watching a little

781
00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:23,440
Speaker 3: more tape of. Him there's only like one THING i

782
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 3: can say about him THAT i don't, Like and it's not.

783
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 3: Size he's not this little slot. Guy he's before was combine.

784
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:33,440
Speaker 3: NUMBERS i think he was just under six feet and

785
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:36,160
Speaker 3: over one hundred and ninety. POUNDS i, mean like a

786
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:39,359
Speaker 3: magic number for wide receivers is over one ninety. Five

787
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:44,680
Speaker 3: he's one one ninety six AND i think he's right around. Six,

788
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:49,040
Speaker 3: yeah he's not this little slot jitterbug. Guy he's bigger than.

789
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:54,319
Speaker 3: That he has too many. DROPS i, mean there's no

790
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 3: way around. That his drop rate is. High now this

791
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:00,960
Speaker 3: is side, note but we'll talk about this a. Lot,

792
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:04,840
Speaker 3: drops especially in the, league to, me are one of

793
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:08,560
Speaker 3: the most overrated stats out. There you, know everyone sees,

794
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:09,840
Speaker 3: Them oh you dropped the.

795
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:11,840
Speaker 2: Ball did you drop it right in your hands or

796
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 2: did you get one Face it was a little outside

797
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:14,680
Speaker 2: of you.

798
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:16,480
Speaker 3: And someone has to make the judge is that a

799
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 3: drop or? Not you, know and this is not the

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00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 3: defend conception you owned because his story is a little.

801
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:25,279
Speaker 3: Different but usually that like IF i asked, you like

802
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:28,319
Speaker 3: who led the league in drops over the last like

803
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:29,640
Speaker 3: eight to ten, years.

804
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:30,320
Speaker 2: As are targeted a.

805
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:34,480
Speaker 3: Lot it's Like, biggs It's, edelman It's, welker it's the

806
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:37,200
Speaker 3: guys that get a lot of, targets usually in the

807
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:40,160
Speaker 3: teeth of the, defense that are getting smacked in the

808
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 3: face by, yeah by big, people you know WHAT i,

809
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:47,719
Speaker 3: Mean like high volume and targets are. EARNED i very

810
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:51,000
Speaker 3: much believe that you don't target guys ten times by. Accident,

811
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:54,880
Speaker 3: sure so highly targeted guys have more. Drops so drops

812
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:58,040
Speaker 3: in general to, me don't bother. Me but his drop

813
00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:01,239
Speaker 3: rate is too, HIGH i, mean So i'm starting with the,

814
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:06,960
Speaker 3: negatives and a lot of them, though are concentration drops so?

815
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:09,520
Speaker 3: Good after the, catch it's running before he catches the

816
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:12,200
Speaker 3: ball or a. Catch he should make stuff you can,

817
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:15,719
Speaker 3: coach stuff you can, coach or maybe focus a little

818
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:19,040
Speaker 3: bit more because it's not like he struggles catching the.

819
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 3: Football his highlight reel catches are whoa you know, like

820
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:26,160
Speaker 3: and he has strong hands and he makes tough. Catches

821
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:29,279
Speaker 3: he drops a couple of easy, ones and two of

822
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:32,799
Speaker 3: them's here were sure fire, touchdowns so, people oh, yeah,

823
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 3: right it makes it looks that much. Worse but, boy

824
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:42,000
Speaker 3: is he. DYNAMIC i, mean he's already a great punt,

825
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 3: returner which happens to be A steeler Need and it's

826
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:47,680
Speaker 3: one more REASON i like, him but he's so good

827
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:53,640
Speaker 3: after the. Catch he moves really really, dynamically you, know

828
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:58,399
Speaker 3: out of his. Brakes he's really tough and. Physical i've

829
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:02,520
Speaker 3: never met, him BUT i love his personality and playdemeanor

830
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:07,120
Speaker 3: on the. Field he is very. Physical he's well known

831
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:10,759
Speaker 3: to be like this wide receiver, historian like where he'll

832
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:15,239
Speaker 3: pull Up steve largentape or something and study his, releases you,

833
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:19,759
Speaker 3: know like really digs in deep for different wide receiver you,

834
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:22,879
Speaker 3: know study. Habits AND i think this is super cool.

835
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:27,239
Speaker 3: Too like he has a stuttering, Problem, okay, okay and

836
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:30,000
Speaker 3: so he Doesn't i'm not gonna go to the. Podium

837
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:34,000
Speaker 3: i'm not gonna do. Interviews, instead he has gone out

838
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:36,600
Speaker 3: of his way to let everyone know he has a stuttering,

839
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:40,600
Speaker 3: problem and all you folks that have stuttering problems shouldn't

840
00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:43,080
Speaker 3: shy away from. It i'm your poster boy for. It

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00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:45,239
Speaker 3: i'm gonna sit here in front Of, Yeah i'm gonna

842
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:48,400
Speaker 3: sit here at The combine in front of a million,

843
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:50,799
Speaker 3: reporters AND i might stutter once in a while AND

844
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:53,719
Speaker 3: i don't. Care that's just WHO i. AM i have

845
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:55,799
Speaker 3: a good. Message, yeah, Right like so that kind of.

846
00:39:55,800 --> 00:40:00,920
Speaker 3: STUFF i love teammates love. Him he will block And steeler,

847
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:05,680
Speaker 3: specifically LIKE i Like boston a. Lot he's a little

848
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:09,840
Speaker 3: redundant to the two they have in terms of just side. Movement,

849
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:12,520
Speaker 3: sure not as. Dynamic like he's not gonna win a

850
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:15,839
Speaker 3: race Against. Conceptsion he's not gonna have the wig Over.

851
00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:20,440
Speaker 3: Concepcion AND i still Think pittman's probably best in the.

852
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:25,120
Speaker 3: Slot lemon to me might be slot only or slot.

853
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:28,480
Speaker 3: MOSTLY i Think conceptcion is definitely big enough to be

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00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:34,480
Speaker 3: inside or. Out he's definitely the most wigglyest Dynamic steeler

855
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:37,160
Speaker 3: receiver the second they would take, him and the MORE

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00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:42,799
Speaker 3: i watch. Them so For steelers Dot, Com mike And

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00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:45,759
Speaker 3: max AND i all do a top, five And i've

858
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:48,840
Speaker 3: gone at every. Position i've done everyone so. Far But

859
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:52,120
Speaker 3: i'm about to do round, two like we. START i

860
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:54,719
Speaker 3: did quarterbacks even before the, combine So i'm about To

861
00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:58,240
Speaker 3: i'll probably do quarterbacks tonight the second, round and, frankly

862
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:01,239
Speaker 3: the first round's, fine but it's JUST i make a

863
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:02,839
Speaker 3: lot of. CHANGES i mean so. MUCH i mean that

864
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:05,360
Speaker 3: was probably should. Too that was six weeks, ago And

865
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:05,920
Speaker 3: i've talked this.

866
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:09,200
Speaker 2: Before as new information becomes, available you change your. Opinions,

867
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:13,759
Speaker 2: Yeah i'm.

868
00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:14,120
Speaker 3: Watching free agents and, stuff you, Know, Like i'm not

869
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:17,279
Speaker 3: a draft guy year. Round i'm Not Dan. Brugler BUT

870
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:19,839
Speaker 3: i might have put him at wide receiver. Two and

871
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:22,640
Speaker 3: that's a generic. LIST i, mean this is not for The,

872
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:26,320
Speaker 3: steelers so it's just a top five safeties guards, whatever After,

873
00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:28,960
Speaker 3: tate After, Tate tait to me is still. One most

874
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:31,280
Speaker 3: years he wouldn't be, one but he is super duper.

875
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:33,960
Speaker 3: SAFE i think there's a zero percent chance he's there

876
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:37,600
Speaker 3: at twenty. One but that list we put together of

877
00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:42,160
Speaker 3: would you trade twenty one for PLAYER, X i'm this

878
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:44,360
Speaker 3: close and that's why it's taken me a day or

879
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:47,239
Speaker 3: two to bring it up to Putting concepcion on that.

880
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:49,959
Speaker 3: List and most people look at him, like, eh maybe

881
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:53,080
Speaker 3: he's a border around, first he's the sixth receiver you're.

882
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:54,840
Speaker 2: Thinking about giving up twenty one you're taking you're thinking

883
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 2: long and hard about Giving.

884
00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:59,920
Speaker 3: I'm thinking he's different than the other, guys AND i

885
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:04,280
Speaker 3: have less questions and he's kind of exactly what the doctor.

886
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:08,640
Speaker 3: Ordered And i'm still hooked ON O line in the first.

887
00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:10,840
Speaker 3: Round but that doesn't mean they wouldn't take a.

888
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 4: Receiver So, okay a couple couple follow ups.

889
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:18,200
Speaker 2: There then you addressed the would you trade pick twenty

890
00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 2: one for? Him you're you're you're thinking about.

891
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:22,839
Speaker 3: It i'm strongly putting These he's knocking on the door.

892
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:24,960
Speaker 2: Again we wan to run that exercise back once or

893
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:27,160
Speaker 2: twice more before we get to the end Of, april

894
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:32,120
Speaker 2: so maybe we'll have we'll revisit that conversation. AGAIN nfl

895
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:36,440
Speaker 2: comparison and his combine scouting profile uh put together By

896
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:38,840
Speaker 2: lance's Arline lance work Is Doug.

897
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:45,759
Speaker 3: Baldwin kind of Agree baldwin was an underwhelming like when

898
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:50,719
Speaker 3: he walked in the, door not look Like Randy, moss you,

899
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:52,839
Speaker 3: know but like he had a he had a little

900
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:58,640
Speaker 3: bit of That smith, nijigba subtle, movements always. Open how

901
00:42:58,680 --> 00:42:59,440
Speaker 3: DID i get beat by that?

902
00:42:59,480 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 5: Guy?

903
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:03,960
Speaker 3: Again feel to? Him AND i Think conceptsion has, that

904
00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:06,839
Speaker 3: and you, know me with comparisons like you don't want

905
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:09,480
Speaker 3: to be, like, yeah He's randy mossmit faster and, bigger you,

906
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:14,520
Speaker 3: know like, yeah and it's more accurate and better, leader you.

907
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:17,600
Speaker 3: Know But conceptsion to me is more wiggle and more

908
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:21,240
Speaker 3: juice Than baldwin ever. Did, OKAY i, mean he definitely

909
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 3: wins a foot. RACE i think he's a little more.

910
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:27,440
Speaker 3: Agile he's a better. Athlete balden was a really good,

911
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:29,600
Speaker 3: Player like if he turned Into, baldon it'd be. THRILLED i,

912
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:30,560
Speaker 3: mean really good.

913
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:34,239
Speaker 2: Player maybe this is a little too early for you

914
00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:37,399
Speaker 2: to answer, this BUT i got to. Ask IF i gave,

915
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:40,640
Speaker 2: you like a would you rather type, SCENARIO i guess

916
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 2: it is A wednesday would you Rather? Wednesday uh? Concept

917
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:52,920
Speaker 2: at twenty one and another offensive lineman not Named venga

918
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:58,120
Speaker 2: Or max in round? Two or would you rather give

919
00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:01,080
Speaker 2: Me venga Or? Max? It pick twenty one one And

920
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:02,839
Speaker 2: i'll take my chance on the wide receiver in round.

921
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:05,120
Speaker 3: Two that's Why i'm so strong still ON o line

922
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:09,520
Speaker 3: in round, one just BECAUSE i think THE i love

923
00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 3: The day two receivers and he's not gonna be one of.

924
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:14,960
Speaker 3: THEM i love The day two, receivers AND i might

925
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:16,520
Speaker 3: take two of. Them you, KNOW i take one the

926
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 3: second and third.

927
00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:17,960
Speaker 2: Round we've talked about that.

928
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:22,120
Speaker 3: Yet, yeah WHERE i like SOME o, lineman but you're

929
00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:25,080
Speaker 3: gonna be keeping your fingers. Crossed boy pregnant sitting there

930
00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:27,480
Speaker 3: at forty, five and he's gonna make, it, sure make.

931
00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:32,399
Speaker 3: It there's just way fewer. Targets and there are some

932
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:37,440
Speaker 3: tackles that are round one, only Like max Or proctor

933
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:41,759
Speaker 3: or somebody like, that Or faunu that could be a

934
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:44,000
Speaker 3: guard or a, tackle you know WHAT i, Mean like

935
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:46,399
Speaker 3: at least like it might be a tackle one. Day

936
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:50,040
Speaker 3: so the better value is always going to be THE

937
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:57,040
Speaker 3: o lineman then the. Receiver BUT i wonder and at

938
00:44:57,200 --> 00:45:01,239
Speaker 3: Nights i'll throw and run a mock just for, fun just.

939
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:04,719
Speaker 3: Fun and, frankly you throw it On twitter and have

940
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:07,040
Speaker 3: you'll call you an, idiot and, yeah but it does

941
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:07,680
Speaker 3: drum up.

942
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 2: Conversation twitter's a very reasonable. Place there's.

943
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:14,840
Speaker 3: Nobody everybody's got a good head on their, shoulder and

944
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:15,799
Speaker 3: they all really know the.

945
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 2: Game well, yeah and you just love how there's no anonymous.

946
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:20,920
Speaker 2: Accounts it's always people with the real picture and the

947
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:22,200
Speaker 2: real name who are calling you an.

948
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:24,840
Speaker 3: Idiot but the more mocks we do for The steelers

949
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:27,680
Speaker 3: with their current amount of, picks you get to the

950
00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:29,880
Speaker 3: fourth round real, quick or even the end of the

951
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:32,280
Speaker 3: third and be, LIKE i don't really need a running

952
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:33,680
Speaker 3: back or a tight, end But i'm gonna take one.

953
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:35,759
Speaker 3: ANYWAY i don't really need a, quarterback But i'll take. One,

954
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:40,480
Speaker 3: ANYWAY i wonder if you could, finagle if you could

955
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:45,080
Speaker 3: trade back from twenty. One AND i do this too

956
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:48,040
Speaker 3: often ON mockx, too because you need someone to tangle

957
00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:50,880
Speaker 3: and trading back is always a better. Move but if

958
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:53,840
Speaker 3: you could trade back from twenty one to twenty five

959
00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:57,719
Speaker 3: and trade up from fifty THREE i think it is

960
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:03,279
Speaker 3: to thirty eight and get both, great you know WHAT i? Mean, Like,

961
00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:05,400
Speaker 3: okay all of a, SUDDEN i don't have five picks

962
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:09,200
Speaker 3: on day. TWO i have two or, three BUT i

963
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:12,960
Speaker 3: ended up WITH conceptsi and in. Alignment, yeah you know

964
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:15,480
Speaker 3: WHAT i. Mean great or something like, that and like

965
00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:16,719
Speaker 3: took two big.

966
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:19,239
Speaker 2: Swings i'd be willing to give up a pick to

967
00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:19,840
Speaker 2: do something like.

968
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:22,480
Speaker 3: That, yeah, yeah and that would BE i might give

969
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:24,919
Speaker 3: up quite a. FEW i, mean give up a third

970
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:27,480
Speaker 3: or fourth by second to move up heavy in the

971
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 3: second round because conception is sitting there at thirty four

972
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:33,120
Speaker 3: something like, that you know WHAT i? Mean?

973
00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:34,560
Speaker 2: Interesting?

974
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:36,160
Speaker 3: UH i know future picks are going Any?

975
00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:39,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no we've we've already. Tabled we've already tabled

976
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:42,799
Speaker 2: any conversation that starts. There, Interesting, uh.

977
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:45,480
Speaker 3: Extra picks by moving. Back there's my point in round,

978
00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:46,520
Speaker 3: one it's.

979
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:49,759
Speaker 2: A it's a well fought, out uh thought to add

980
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:53,000
Speaker 2: to the think tank there of our ongoing draft. Conversation

981
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:56,319
Speaker 2: i'm sure we. Will we will definitely revisit that at some,

982
00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:58,480
Speaker 2: point but we got to get to break THE i urge.

983
00:46:58,320 --> 00:47:01,080
Speaker 3: People to check out conceptsion if you have just YouTube

984
00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:05,319
Speaker 3: or whatever. Too he's got a lot more juice then

985
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:07,600
Speaker 3: maybe if you give them credit.

986
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:10,160
Speaker 4: FOR i like, IT i love. IT i want some

987
00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:10,480
Speaker 4: more of.

988
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:12,160
Speaker 3: It he goes over the. MIDDLE i mean he is

989
00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:12,760
Speaker 3: not a finesse.

990
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:14,840
Speaker 2: Player he does like the teeth of that.

991
00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:15,280
Speaker 3: Defense.

992
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:18,560
Speaker 2: Yeah hour in the, books another hour to. Go we'll

993
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:20,640
Speaker 2: get to your tweets in hour number. Two we'll talk

994
00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:25,759
Speaker 2: most improved teams so far out of free. Agency i've

995
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:27,520
Speaker 2: also got a fun Little best of The west to

996
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:29,919
Speaker 2: tee up for everybody at some point as we're doing

997
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:33,560
Speaker 2: some things here on A, Wednesday Well Shuler Matt williamson

998
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:36,080
Speaker 2: halfway home on the. Drive another hour to. Go Steelers

999
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:38,240
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