1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:04,240 Speaker 1: Scrubbing In with Beta Tilly and Tanya rad and iHeartRadio 2 00:00:04,400 --> 00:00:07,640 Speaker 1: and two times People's Choice Award winning podcast. 3 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 2: Hello everybody, we are scrubbing in. 4 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:21,000 Speaker 1: Scrub a dub dub in the club. 5 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 2: The club club, Okay, in the club. We're not in 6 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:25,760 Speaker 2: the tub, We're in the club. 7 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 1: Were in the club, Bott You thought you were done 8 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 1: with us for the week, but we came back because 9 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 1: we were here. And we got a dear bonya email 10 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 1: that was specifically emailed to Mark and myself, So. 11 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:39,479 Speaker 2: Saving questions for you and I in the body of 12 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 2: the email. 13 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:42,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know I forgot to mention to you 14 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:44,640 Speaker 1: that I started my natural nail journey. 15 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:48,600 Speaker 2: Thank god we came back from Thank god we came back. 16 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:51,640 Speaker 2: Believe this on Monday, I know, whatever it was. 17 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 1: So, I felt that my nails haven't seen the light 18 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 1: of day since I was probably fifteen years old, Wow, 19 00:00:57,520 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 1: maybe sixteen. I don't know when you start doing the manicures. Okay, 20 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 1: sixteen seventeen. 21 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 2: I don't know a lot about this stuff. Somebody asked 22 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 2: some stupid questions. I'm sorry. 23 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 1: So I did acrylic for like the longest time, meaning 24 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 1: they put like this powder on the nails, and it 25 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 1: like makes them longer and thicker and stronger. But I'm 26 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:18,400 Speaker 1: like this, all these chemicals and stuff cannot be good 27 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 1: to just be like seeping into my whatever nail beds, right, Okay, decades. 28 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 1: So I've been wanting to go on this natural nail 29 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 1: journey for a while, but it was like my wedding honeymoon. 30 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 1: I was like, I can't have like I just need 31 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 1: to keep it going until my honeymoon's over. 32 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 2: Then my honeymoon honeymoon tint h happened. 33 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 1: No, well no, that was like honeymoon's over. 34 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 2: Oh okay, it's time, got. 35 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 1: It, It is time. 36 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:46,480 Speaker 2: So what I'm looking at now, those don't look like 37 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 2: natural nails to me. 38 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 1: So I have one layer of nail polish on, okay, 39 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 1: and that I kind of do it in phases. Oh, 40 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 1: because your nails get so damaged from all this other 41 00:01:57,560 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 1: like stuff that when you raw dog your nails after 42 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 1: they look very like cut up and like white, like 43 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 1: freckly white. I don't even know how to explain it, 44 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:14,119 Speaker 1: they just look damage. So I can't just raw dog 45 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:18,520 Speaker 1: straight from my like gel builder to nothing. So this 46 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 1: is like phase two of phasing into my natural nails. 47 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:24,800 Speaker 1: So this is just one coat of bubble bath and 48 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:30,240 Speaker 1: then I guess next month I will maybe do a 49 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 1: clear coat. I guess it takes three months to like 50 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:34,840 Speaker 1: grow your nails back allegedly, so. 51 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 2: Maybe a natural November is what where you have to 52 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:38,799 Speaker 2: look forward looking like natural November. 53 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:41,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, if I stay on the path, I'm not loving it. 54 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 1: So who knows it's hard for you. It's been decades, decades, 55 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 1: and I used to have long nails, Like my nails 56 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:48,640 Speaker 1: used to be like super long, like I could like 57 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 1: scratch my head, like I can't do anything. But these 58 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 1: these little nubs, they're just like little nubs. 59 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 2: Fine, they look like just like normal human hands. That's okay, thanks, 60 00:02:57,240 --> 00:02:58,680 Speaker 2: They don't look like boy hands or anything. 61 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, they feel a little boy to me. And also 62 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:03,640 Speaker 1: I just feel like nails always made me feel put together, 63 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 1: like you know, just polish. So it's really just a 64 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 1: transitional period. 65 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 2: But Kanya, we're with you. Yeah, we support you in 66 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 2: this journey and we wish you nothing but the best. 67 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:14,520 Speaker 2: Thank you. 68 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:15,960 Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm going to make. 69 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 2: It, But and then what happens, say twenty six we 70 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 2: go back to full on acrylics, no that's done. 71 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 1: The natural nail journey is like, oh, to be a 72 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 1: natural nail girly. The destination is natural nail girl. 73 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 2: Woh n ng nng. Yeah. Wow. 74 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:33,680 Speaker 1: I also heard it's like easier when you become a mom, 75 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 1: Like you're not going and getting like your gel manicure 76 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 1: every three So. 77 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 2: No more gels, no more acrylics, natural nails for the 78 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 2: rest of your life. 79 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 1: That's the goal. 80 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 2: Wow. 81 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm going to get there. 82 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 2: This is a big deal. 83 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm going to get there because 84 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 1: what's happening right now, is not it? 85 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 2: Yeah? I think it looks fine. Oh all right, this 86 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 2: is from KK working mom or stay at home mom. 87 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 2: That's the question you're asking us, Dear b e MT 88 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 2: you got yeah, top lowest billing on that one. Really, yep, 89 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 2: as I right you. Today, I'm officially half baked with 90 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 2: my first baby boy Becca. I miss being garden baked 91 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 2: and Tanya, I can't wait for you to bake your 92 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 2: own bun soon. A lot of baking, a lot of 93 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 2: mixing of baking puns. There, yes, Tanya, what before you continue? 94 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 1: I have a friend who listens who did not know 95 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 1: what gardening meant yes, and she sent me a video 96 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 1: of like how she used to think it was like 97 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:32,159 Speaker 1: so cute that like Becca had a little like hobby, 98 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 1: and then it was a big hat. 99 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:36,040 Speaker 2: Yes. 100 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 1: I have to re listen to the voicemail for the 101 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 1: message she said, because it was so funny, the like 102 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:43,320 Speaker 1: path she went down of like, oh, it's cute gardening, 103 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 1: and then she she realized it was like a something else. 104 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 1: She thought it was like something sexual, and then she 105 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 1: was like, oh, her friend Taylor Banks came over in 106 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 1: the gardens, it's not something sexual, and then she like 107 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 1: figured it out. 108 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 2: I can't imagine what the sexual gardener. 109 00:04:56,720 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 1: Would be, but okay, yeah, so anyways, a little bit 110 00:04:59,600 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 1: about that. 111 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 2: I've been so fortunate to have a beautiful pregnancy and 112 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 2: I love this season of life. Now that I'm halfway there, 113 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 2: I'm starting to think more about what life will look 114 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:09,480 Speaker 2: like after my baby makes his debut. I currently work 115 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:11,680 Speaker 2: full time in higher education. I really like my job, 116 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:14,919 Speaker 2: but it's mediocre pay and crazy hours depending on the 117 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:17,359 Speaker 2: time of year. My husband has a good job. It 118 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 2: doesn't make enough for me to fully quit nor what 119 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:21,480 Speaker 2: I really want to. At the same time, I can't 120 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:24,159 Speaker 2: imagine working the schedule I do now, knowing my baby 121 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 2: is at daycare without me all day. My dream would 122 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:28,279 Speaker 2: be to find a part time job that pays the 123 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 2: bills and keeps my brain stimulated, but gives me the 124 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 2: flexibility to be with my baby as much as possible. 125 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 2: But is that what I really want? Tanya? How does 126 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 2: a modern woman like you see the stage of your 127 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:40,160 Speaker 2: life planning out? Mark? What did you and Amy do 128 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:44,719 Speaker 2: when the girls were young? Love you all? XOXOKK wow. 129 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 1: First of all, KK, congratulations, congratulations KK. That's very very exciting. 130 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 1: I think that a modern woman does whatever she wants. 131 00:05:56,760 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 1: That's really it. There's really no right or wrong I 132 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 1: think you can have. I obviously have a preconceived notion 133 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:06,279 Speaker 1: of what I think it's going to look like for me, 134 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:10,039 Speaker 1: which is I want to be a working I want 135 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 1: to be a working mom. I want to have a career, 136 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 1: and I want to have babies. That's like the ultimate 137 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:20,599 Speaker 1: goal for me. I have yet I haven't experienced it yet, 138 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 1: so I don't know. I think people say things shift 139 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 1: in you, like when you have your baby your priority. 140 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 1: Everybody says like you get you know, you have a 141 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 1: baby and your priorities change. I think for me, I 142 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:38,359 Speaker 1: have seen so many women give up their careers and 143 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 1: fully just immerse into being mom, which is so beautiful. 144 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 1: But then there comes a point where the kids grow 145 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 1: up and I'm not even talking like eighteen, where they're 146 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:50,280 Speaker 1: like fully adults. Like, there comes a point where your 147 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 1: kids are more self sufficient and they get cars and 148 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:55,680 Speaker 1: you know, they don't need you as much, and then 149 00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 1: they don't know what to do with themselves and that's 150 00:06:57,920 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 1: when like trouble in the marriage happens and all that 151 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 1: kind of stuff. So as an outsider of somebody who's 152 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 1: not experienced it, that is my goal for when it 153 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 1: happens when it's my time. But I don't know, because 154 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 1: I feel like it might change. 155 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I know that my wife had a job when 156 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 2: the babies were first born, and then she kind of 157 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 2: had less fewer and fewer hours, and then she was 158 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 2: pretty much just working Saturdays, and I liked and it 159 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 2: was great because Saturdays was the day for her to 160 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 2: kind of get away because the babies were a lot, 161 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 2: and that was my day for daddy daughter day and 162 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:35,120 Speaker 2: I really look forward to that. So that kind of 163 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 2: worked perfectly. And then we got to a point where 164 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 2: the kids were playing soccer and there was no way 165 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 2: for my wife to be in two places at once, 166 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 2: so she let the job go because she wanted to 167 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:51,160 Speaker 2: always be there for the kids. Now, everybody's got to 168 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 2: do what they got to do. But if you have 169 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 2: the option to be there for your kids, I think 170 00:07:57,520 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 2: your kids will love you for that. I know my 171 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 2: kids loved the fact that mom was always there. There 172 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 2: was never a thing at school, a thing in the evening, 173 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 2: a thing on the weekends that Mom wasn't at. And 174 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 2: I know that a lot of people work, and I 175 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 2: know you can't be there all the time. And I 176 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 2: don't want to make you feel bad about that. I 177 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 2: just know that my kids really liked it. So if 178 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 2: you have the option, then that would be a good 179 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:20,640 Speaker 2: thing for there. She was never not there, my wife. 180 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 2: She was always there. And I think you have to 181 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 2: look at it from a point of view of regret. 182 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 2: Will you regret not spending more time with your kids 183 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 2: or not being at all those things with your kids? 184 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 2: Maybe will you regret not working more often when your 185 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:38,440 Speaker 2: kids were little? I don't think so. And then when 186 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:41,320 Speaker 2: the kids got older, my wife found creative ways to 187 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 2: work and be part of their lives at the same time. 188 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:47,080 Speaker 2: For example, she started working at the school teaching pe 189 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:50,560 Speaker 2: so she could be on the kids' schedule and not 190 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:52,199 Speaker 2: have to worry about drop off and pick up and 191 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 2: all that stuff, because that way she has the exact 192 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:55,560 Speaker 2: same schedules of the kids, and she was with them 193 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:57,719 Speaker 2: all day and that was wonderful. And then later when 194 00:08:57,720 --> 00:08:59,720 Speaker 2: they were in high school, she ran the theater boosters 195 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 2: for three years, and so she was a part of 196 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 2: their lives that way, and the kids loved both of 197 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 2: those things. So she was able to kind of do 198 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:09,680 Speaker 2: both for a while, which gave her own thing. It 199 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 2: got her out of the house, and it also got 200 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 2: let her be a part of the kids' lives on 201 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 2: a daily basis. So you can figure this out, because 202 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 2: it is nice to get out of the house once 203 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 2: in a while, especially when they're here. 204 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 1: Pros and cons to all of it, you know, Like 205 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 1: I I now, like that's like my whole thing is 206 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 1: I ask people like when they had babies, how they 207 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 1: did it, what they did? Da da da da. I 208 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:36,600 Speaker 1: know people who when they had babies, the like the 209 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:40,439 Speaker 1: wife stayed home and didn't and you know, stopped working 210 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 1: there's benefits to that because then you don't have to 211 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 1: like get help or like put them in daycare or 212 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 1: do any of that stuff like that. The mom is 213 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 1: just there. 214 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 2: My mom stayed home until I think I was in 215 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 2: middle school maybe, and then you went back to. 216 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 1: Work and then but there's an so that is you 217 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 1: know that. But then also if you're both working, you 218 00:09:57,080 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 1: need to it creates more challenges because you have to 219 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 1: figure out like do you put them in daycare? Do 220 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:03,720 Speaker 1: you have help? Like what do you do? Like it 221 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:05,679 Speaker 1: creates that whole thing. 222 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 2: Are you going to make enough that justifies the expense 223 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 2: for daycare or whatever? That may look like? 224 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 1: Correct, So it's pros and cons to eat either side. 225 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 1: I think like there's again there's no right and wrong. 226 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:22,200 Speaker 1: I think for me, I need to have I like 227 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 1: really immerse myself into things, like even when it even 228 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 1: my career, Like I really just like dive in. When 229 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 1: I got my dog, I was like all in and 230 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 1: I can get like sucked in and make that my world. 231 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 1: And I feel like for me, that's not healthy. Ever, 232 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:40,319 Speaker 1: I'll never forget it. When we were you know her, 233 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 1: we had a coworker was working at I don't even 234 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:46,400 Speaker 1: to say where at the time, and she made her 235 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:49,200 Speaker 1: whole identity her job and like where she worked. It 236 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:51,080 Speaker 1: was like plastered all over her Instagram. It was like 237 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 1: in her bio. And then she got let go and 238 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 1: she had like an identity crisis because she was like, 239 00:10:56,400 --> 00:10:58,920 Speaker 1: who am I If I'm not this right, this girl, 240 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:01,080 Speaker 1: and I'll never forget it because I was like I 241 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 1: always I never wanted my identity to be about my job, 242 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 1: where I work, who I parent my dog, like like 243 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 1: any of it. I just want me. I just want 244 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:16,080 Speaker 1: to exists as myself. And so I mean some people 245 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:18,560 Speaker 1: might come at me and say that's horrible. 246 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 2: Well, I don't know if it's realistic, because that scares me. 247 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:24,560 Speaker 2: Someday I'm not going to be producer of the Sea question, 248 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:26,200 Speaker 2: and I don't know what that looks like. I don't 249 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 2: know what that is. I don't know who I am 250 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 2: because my mind is always, oh, that's a good idea 251 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:31,320 Speaker 2: for the show. And I got notes and I got 252 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 2: all this stuff. I got a whole system. Like someday 253 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:35,320 Speaker 2: that's not going to be me, and I don't know 254 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:37,079 Speaker 2: what that's going to be. Like it's scary to me. 255 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 1: Really, Yeah, But there's so many more layers to you. 256 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:43,520 Speaker 2: I guess, but that's the point is I don't know 257 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 2: if there are anymore. 258 00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:46,840 Speaker 1: You're a husband, You're a dad. 259 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:48,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, You're a friend, yeah. 260 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 1: Family member, Yeah, passionate about hikes and dogs. 261 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:57,960 Speaker 2: And baseball and baseball. Yeah, I suppose. I'm not sure 262 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 2: that's enough to be a fully functioning year. 263 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 1: We'll get on it now. 264 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:05,360 Speaker 2: Okay, that's your homework, all right? Yeah, all right? 265 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:06,160 Speaker 1: Yeah? 266 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 2: Do you think we helped KK? 267 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 1: Probably not? 268 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 2: Probably not? 269 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, who tried? 270 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:13,600 Speaker 2: Hey, that's all we can do. Yeah, why don't we 271 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 2: take a break and then we'll do some other questions? 272 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 1: Okay, one more great. 273 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:36,560 Speaker 2: And we're back. 274 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 1: That's you. 275 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:43,200 Speaker 2: Mark here. I am from Renee, Hi, Becca, Mark, Tanya 276 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 2: and Eastern All right, day one scrubber here. I just 277 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 2: want to see how much I love the pod. I 278 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 2: found that after Becca was on the Bachelor, and I've 279 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:51,080 Speaker 2: been hooked ever since. I need a little advice there. 280 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 2: We usually moved back to my small hometown in central 281 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 2: Indiana to be closer to my family. After ten years 282 00:12:56,120 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 2: away college, dream job teaching kindergarten. Five year relationship ended 283 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:03,680 Speaker 2: in January, I decided to come home. I landed another 284 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:06,199 Speaker 2: kindergarten job, bought a house, and life feels like it's 285 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 2: falling into place. Part of moving back was to eventually 286 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:11,400 Speaker 2: raise a family near mine. So I've been keeping an 287 00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:12,679 Speaker 2: eye out. And the other day I saw a guy 288 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:14,439 Speaker 2: I went to high school with pop up on Facebook. 289 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:16,440 Speaker 2: He's a year or two older. We weren't close, but 290 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:17,920 Speaker 2: it figured, Hey, why not add him? 291 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 1: Message him? 292 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 2: He added me back quickly after some light stalking. Turns 293 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 2: out he's way cuter than I remembered, single, goes to church. 294 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 2: Could be a great match. Here's my dilemma. Should I 295 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:31,800 Speaker 2: message him? Yes? Would that be weird? Or two forward? 296 00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 1: No? 297 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:35,079 Speaker 2: What would I even say? That's casual but still shows 298 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 2: I'm interested? Hey? Or am I overthinking this and should 299 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:40,240 Speaker 2: just wait and see if he makes the first move. No, 300 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:42,559 Speaker 2: I haven't did it all since the breakup and getting 301 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 2: back out there feels intimidating, especially when it seems like 302 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:47,760 Speaker 2: all the good ones are taken. Any advice or encouragement 303 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:51,480 Speaker 2: would mean so much much love from Renee. You are 304 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 2: not even thinking twice about this? 305 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:56,480 Speaker 1: Absolutely not. But you know what's funny. I have a 306 00:13:56,520 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 1: friend that's like this, Okay, she doesn't want to do anything. Yeah, 307 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:02,599 Speaker 1: she wants the guys to come to her. I'm the 308 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:06,320 Speaker 1: complete opposite. I'm like, treat it like a job. If 309 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 1: you're like, if you're what am I trying to say, 310 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 1: dream job popped up on somewhere? Are you not going 311 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:14,680 Speaker 1: to apply? 312 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 2: You're gonna hope they message you. This guy could be 313 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 2: your dream guy. He could be a scumbag, totally. 314 00:14:21,240 --> 00:14:21,640 Speaker 1: Out with them. 315 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 2: Find out, yes, message him? 316 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 1: Message him? 317 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 2: Why not? 318 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:26,480 Speaker 1: Hey so funny? 319 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 2: You popped up? 320 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:29,040 Speaker 1: Have you been? Literally so funny? You popped up on 321 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 1: my page? Have you been? 322 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 2: What do you have to lose? Nothing? If not you? Who? 323 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 2: If not? Now? When? 324 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 1: If not? Why not? 325 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 2: Yes? Why not? I just don't see them? Why not? 326 00:14:42,880 --> 00:14:43,400 Speaker 1: I don't either. 327 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 2: I don't get the whole Like I'll sit back and 328 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 2: let him message me. 329 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 1: It's the Margaret quality syndrome. 330 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:49,760 Speaker 2: What is that exactly? Can you explain? I like Margaret quality. 331 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 2: She's a good actress quality. You know. 332 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 1: It's like it's like she sam can quote direct. But 333 00:14:57,320 --> 00:15:00,360 Speaker 1: she basically said that she didn't double text Jack ants, 334 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:05,120 Speaker 1: notof that he came to her. YadA YadA, YadA must 335 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:05,800 Speaker 1: be nice. 336 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:07,520 Speaker 2: YadA, Yada's doing a lot of work. There. I think 337 00:15:07,560 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 2: we need more information here. It is when after said 338 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 2: I love you first, Margaret said he did obviously. She 339 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 2: says she does not double text or chase people. She says, 340 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 2: I'm old school. I would never put myself out there first. 341 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 2: I never text twice. I mean, no, I'm married, I 342 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 2: can text him whatever. But before we were together, at 343 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 2: the beginning, I would always follow southern girl etiquette. That 344 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:28,000 Speaker 2: is the anti Tanya. And we're saying that you'd be 345 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:30,400 Speaker 2: the aunt ebrenet Yeah, get out there. 346 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:32,160 Speaker 1: So was it called southern girl? 347 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 2: What southern girl etiquette? Yeah? You know, she's sounds a. 348 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:39,360 Speaker 1: Pretty girl etiquette. It must be nice to have. 349 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 2: It is like falling all over your over you. 350 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 1: No, no, no, I'm not going to text twice. Meanwhile, 351 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:49,960 Speaker 1: I'm just like pinging left and right, ping, ping, ping, ping, go. 352 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 2: Ahead, poke ping whatever you gotta do on Facebook? 353 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:52,960 Speaker 1: Why not? 354 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 2: I just don't see the why not? 355 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:57,760 Speaker 1: I kissed so many frogs who cares led me to 356 00:15:57,800 --> 00:15:58,280 Speaker 1: my prins? 357 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 2: Fine? On a sim note, a smitten scrubber says, dear 358 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:05,320 Speaker 2: Eastern Mark, tiny and Becka in no particular order, A 359 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 2: little hope for anyone still waiting for love. A glimpse 360 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 2: in how mine unfolded in the most unexpected way. See 361 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:13,480 Speaker 2: this is inspiring to Renee. I'm thirty one. I've had 362 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 2: my heart broken more times than I can count. After 363 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 2: years of healing, I was finally content being single, and 364 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 2: of course the cliche proved true. Just when I wasn't looking, 365 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 2: love found me. My aunt introduced me to a guy. 366 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:26,320 Speaker 2: She knew we had a lot in common and he 367 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 2: was incredibly kind. But I wasn't attracted to him at first. 368 00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:32,360 Speaker 2: No vagina tingles if Tanya would say, oh still, I 369 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:34,600 Speaker 2: gave it a chance. After a few dates, I told 370 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 2: him I just wanted to be friends. But we kept 371 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 2: hanging out and slowly something changed that I got to 372 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:41,200 Speaker 2: know him and I got to know his heart. The 373 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:45,360 Speaker 2: spark grew. Now six months in, he is the best boyfriend. 374 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:49,040 Speaker 2: He's kind, funny, attractive. He makes me feel so safe 375 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:54,360 Speaker 2: and yes, the tingles showed up big time. Ladies, give 376 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:57,320 Speaker 2: the good guys a chance, or real connection can surprise you. 377 00:16:57,680 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 2: I love you all. Your podcast is the highlight of 378 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 2: my week. See last week we had a dear BONDI 379 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:05,879 Speaker 2: from somebody who said, should I date my friend? He 380 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:09,120 Speaker 2: doesn't give me the tingles. This is the sign tingles 381 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:13,159 Speaker 2: can be earned, Tingles could lie dormant. Tanya doesn't agree. 382 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:16,879 Speaker 2: You're making the face that you don't agree. 383 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:21,640 Speaker 1: I don't agree, but I can't discredit this email. I mean, 384 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:23,879 Speaker 1: who am I to discredit someone's email? 385 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:27,880 Speaker 2: It worked for a smitten scrubber. 386 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 1: A smitten scrubber. I'm happy for you, but I'd like 387 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:31,719 Speaker 1: to challenge you a little bit. 388 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:33,080 Speaker 2: I think it's true. I think if you have a 389 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 2: good guy friend, couldn't that grow into something. You've had 390 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:40,240 Speaker 2: good guy friends over the years. Obviously nothing ever grew 391 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:43,919 Speaker 2: into something. But else you never made that effort. 392 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:46,280 Speaker 1: I don't think I would have had the vagina tingles 393 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 1: with any of my good guy friends. I just don't know. 394 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:53,920 Speaker 2: I don't know. So we have differing opinions. 395 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:55,960 Speaker 1: Here makes the world go around. 396 00:17:56,240 --> 00:17:58,239 Speaker 2: No, you know it's so true. 397 00:17:57,520 --> 00:17:59,880 Speaker 1: YEA one man's trash is another man's. 398 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 2: We're unanimous on renee. Go for it, ye message him, 399 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 2: nothing to lose for everybody else Like last week's scrubber. 400 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 2: You know, I say, I say kiss the guy and 401 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 2: see what happens. That's what I say. 402 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:12,679 Speaker 1: Kiss the guys, see what happens. 403 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:15,359 Speaker 2: Sometimes it's not that they're lying dormant, it's just that 404 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:18,120 Speaker 2: they're like they need they need to be woken up 405 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:22,520 Speaker 2: the tingles. Well, then and a good kiss can wake 406 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:27,680 Speaker 2: up the tingles. No, I just don't think so they're 407 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:28,320 Speaker 2: just asleep. 408 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:31,440 Speaker 1: I just don't think so they don't sleep when they've 409 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:32,120 Speaker 1: been awoken. 410 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:35,359 Speaker 2: But I think sometimes when you're if you're not thinking 411 00:18:35,359 --> 00:18:39,800 Speaker 2: of someone that way, there's no tingles, right because it's like, 412 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:41,920 Speaker 2: I don't know, there's people in your life that don't 413 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:43,720 Speaker 2: give you tingles because you just know them too well. 414 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:47,399 Speaker 2: There's no tangles happening because you just do mundane stuff together. 415 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 1: Oh wait, I had this far was I I don't 416 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:52,199 Speaker 1: know where I was, and I don't know what the 417 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:55,719 Speaker 1: context of this was. But somebody asked us. They were like, 418 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:59,800 Speaker 1: if you were married and you started to develop feelings 419 00:18:59,840 --> 00:19:05,400 Speaker 1: for somebody else outside of your marriage, would you tell 420 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:06,360 Speaker 1: your partner. 421 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:10,880 Speaker 2: Feelings? Like, I think we need to be more specific 422 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 2: about feelings. 423 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:15,159 Speaker 1: Okay, like you want like you I don't know, I 424 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:18,160 Speaker 1: can't remember what this must have come from, some show 425 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 1: or something. I'm like blanking on how it came up, 426 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:24,119 Speaker 1: but it was something The premise was like this person 427 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:27,320 Speaker 1: was married, and I think it was a coworker somebody 428 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:30,360 Speaker 1: if they saw often and they started to develop. 429 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:32,240 Speaker 2: Is it just like a crush? 430 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:35,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, something like that. Okay, they didn't they weren't going 431 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 1: to act on it, right obviously, But don't tell your 432 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 1: partner that, like, you're starting to feel something for somebody else, Well. 433 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:45,280 Speaker 2: I don't if you're not, If you're not going to 434 00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:48,280 Speaker 2: act on it. Well, what did you answer? What did 435 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:48,640 Speaker 2: you say? 436 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 1: Well, my whole thing was like, I mean, I've only 437 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:54,439 Speaker 1: been married for five months, so I can't like, I 438 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:57,600 Speaker 1: can't really speak on it, but I feel like I've 439 00:19:57,600 --> 00:20:00,320 Speaker 1: been with him for six years and there is a 440 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:03,800 Speaker 1: chip in me that switched off the minute I started 441 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:08,200 Speaker 1: stating him that would not like, I just can't see 442 00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:13,240 Speaker 1: that happening to me again. I say this now five months, 443 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:14,560 Speaker 1: I've heard. 444 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 2: That there's a thing I forget. There's a name for 445 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 2: it too, for I'm going to look it up in 446 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 2: a minute, but I don't want to take everyone's time 447 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 2: doing that. You were a harmless crush on someone in 448 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 2: your life, even though you're married. There's a name for it, 449 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 2: and I forget what it is, but I've used it 450 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:31,800 Speaker 2: before and putting stuff together for the radio show. But anyway, 451 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:35,119 Speaker 2: the point is they say it's it's common, it's normal, 452 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:38,240 Speaker 2: it's no big deal. But I think if you do 453 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:40,760 Speaker 2: confess that to your spouse, it becos it becomes a 454 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:45,600 Speaker 2: big deal, right for sure? Right, So would you tell 455 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:46,040 Speaker 2: him or not? 456 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:48,960 Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. I'm like, I just can't even 457 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:52,080 Speaker 1: put myself in that position because I just again, like 458 00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:54,320 Speaker 1: I feel like I just turned something off in me 459 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:58,240 Speaker 1: where I don't see men Like, yes, I can a 460 00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 1: hawkeye can walk into the room and I can acknowledge, 461 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:05,040 Speaker 1: but oh, like I's hot whatever, But I don't let 462 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:06,440 Speaker 1: myself go there. 463 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:07,359 Speaker 2: That makes sense. 464 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:10,159 Speaker 1: And Robbie is the same way. He's like that that. 465 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:12,639 Speaker 1: It's exactly. It's like a switch that you just like 466 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:14,679 Speaker 1: switch off. You know. 467 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:18,080 Speaker 2: It's an interesting question. 468 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:21,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, ponder it. Maybe maybe perhaps we can discuss the 469 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:22,320 Speaker 1: next time. 470 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:24,880 Speaker 2: I'll look forward to that, all right. 471 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:28,880 Speaker 1: All right, that wraps it up for today's Dear Bonya 472 00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:35,439 Speaker 1: slash Manya slash we out here. Hopefully we will be 473 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:37,720 Speaker 1: back next week with Beca Tilly herself. 474 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:40,280 Speaker 2: That would be great, that'd be ideal. Maybe even East 475 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:45,919 Speaker 1: Maybe even East until then, we love you and goodbye 476 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:46,800 Speaker 1: continued