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Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to season three thirty five,

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Speaker 1: Episode five.

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Speaker 2: Of Daily's Guys. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a production of iHeart Radio.

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Speaker 1: It's a podcast where we take a deepdabnue America Shared consciousness.

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Speaker 3: It's gross in here.

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Speaker 1: In America Share consciousness right now. It's it's nasty. The

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Speaker 1: It is Friday, April twenty six, twenty twenty four four.

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Speaker 1: thrilled to be joined as always by my co host

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Speaker 3: This whole thing is fucked. That's Zach Finness. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: But big spill YEP starring Kevin Klein Miles We are

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Speaker 1: hilarious comedian, actress writer you know from places like Netflix's

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Speaker 1: comedy lineup. She's the author of the audible original dirt

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Speaker 1: Bag Anthropology, and her new stand up special Loopholes, just dropped.

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Speaker 3: Go stream it. It's Kate Weller. Welcome, Welcome. How are

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Speaker 3: you OK.

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Speaker 2: I'm doing pretty good. I mean, like personally, I'm doing

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Speaker 2: pretty good.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the world is crazy.

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Speaker 3: The world's crazy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a very intense time. But like personally, you know,

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Speaker 2: I got a comedy special, a boyfriend, I got two cats.

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Speaker 3: You god damn the cats. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, what

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Speaker 3: can you ask more for? You know, I get it.

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Speaker 3: In these times, we just have to retreat into our

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Speaker 3: cats sometimes. Yeah, I know, I know, you have no man.

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Speaker 3: I just I have vivid memories of even like in

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty, like holding like my dog, like you have

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I know I had a moment of like visceral

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Speaker 2: jealousy towards my cat right like where I was just like,

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Speaker 3: He's just like he's just like simple.

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Speaker 2: The main thing that happens every day is that the

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Speaker 2: mommy slash god lady brings me food and then cats me.

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Speaker 2: That's what's happening in the world. That's the breaking news.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. Oh yellow socks today, okay, yeah, and that's

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Speaker 1: Damn your cat use you as mommy slash god lady

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Speaker 1: instead of personal assistant. That's impressive. You have a you

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Speaker 1: have a strong relationship.

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Speaker 2: I actually have two cats, and what views me as

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Speaker 3: System and one as mother god.

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Speaker 2: Yes, mother god mommy. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: There's something about just napping in a sunbeam when I see,

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Speaker 3: You don't do that. I do that. You find a

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Speaker 3: There's I start sending like a fucking lizard. I mean

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Speaker 3: I love that. I love that for you. I like

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Speaker 3: how I was like you don't do that, Bros.

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Speaker 1: Driveway just like warming yourself, like a list of concrete.

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Speaker 3: There's just something about hot concrete, like when it feels

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Speaker 3: it's very it's very invited. Damn man, I don't know

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Speaker 3: what's wrong with me? Why I'm not doing that? Amazing?

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Speaker 1: Well, Kate, we are going to get to know you

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Speaker 1: a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going

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Speaker 1: to tell the listeners a couple of things that we're

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Speaker 3: We have some good news out.

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Speaker 1: Of Maine that I wanted to bring up. Maine has

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Speaker 1: officially become a trans and abortion care sanctuary state. So

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Speaker 1: we'll talk about that and what they had to overcome

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Speaker 1: a lot of death threats, a lot of terroristic threats

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Speaker 3: So we'll talk about that. We'll talk about.

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Speaker 1: Meta's strong policies against sex work. As long as said

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Speaker 1: sex work is being performed by humans AI, that shit

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Speaker 1: is totally fine.

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Speaker 3: Ahead, They're down with that.

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Speaker 2: Robot work is real works.

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Speaker 1: Right, is what we are here to say. Right, All

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Speaker 1: that plenty more. But first, Kate, we do like to

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Speaker 1: ask our guests, what is is something from your search history?

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Speaker 2: I was recently this morning, I was reading up on

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Speaker 2: the Supreme Court grants pass versus Organs. You guys know

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Is it is? It? Is it a criminal act

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm very I do a lot of reading about

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Speaker 2: housing politics, and that one is it's just mind blowing

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Speaker 2: that they're like thinking about, you know, criminalizing just like

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Speaker 2: being outside if you have no place else to go.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, sorry, but I hate the Supreme Court.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, no, Yeah, we were just talking on was

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Speaker 3: it Tuesday? Tuesday's episode with Rihann and Hamam from the

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Speaker 3: five to four Supreme Court podcast about that.

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Speaker 2: It's a great podcast.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, she's she's dope as fuck. I think she

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Speaker 3: actually just got arrested at the University of Texas, you know,

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Speaker 3: protesting on behalf of Palestinians. But yeah, we were talking

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Speaker 3: about that, and it's just you know this, it's the

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Speaker 3: a rock that has been created from just on what's

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Speaker 3: the word I'm looking for, untethered American, unmitigated American capitalism,

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Speaker 3: the real root causes. It's like, well, we could do

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean I think that, like you know,

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Speaker 2: speaking of like the protests that you were just mentioning,

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Speaker 2: like it's just becoming very clear that like literally the

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Speaker 2: like police or the housing plan. Police are the foreign

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Speaker 2: policy plan. Police are the substance abuse plan. You know,

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Speaker 2: it's just every every single problem people just you know,

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Speaker 2: the same solution to it.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, and I think that there be noted by people

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Speaker 3: to understand that like those are like using law enforcement

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Speaker 1: Like yeah, I believe that a police state, state state

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Speaker 1: that just I mean Joe Biden, you know, he did

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Speaker 1: you know, giving a speech about he was like responding

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Speaker 1: come on, they're they're your therapist there, you're like he

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Speaker 1: he was using the fact that the police are answer

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Speaker 1: like he was like, then that's a good thing and

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Speaker 1: I feel like a lot of people or like, man,

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Speaker 1: When the police are your everything, the police are my everything.

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Speaker 1: You guys I just said about beer cause of a.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, only losers think the police are the solution

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Speaker 2: to everything, winners. I think cats are the solution.

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Speaker 3: To every that's right. Cats and mushrooms, yeahroom.

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Speaker 1: Cats and lasers on their heads, right, Yeah, Sorry, am

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Speaker 3: Fuck this up? That would I think that would fuck

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Speaker 1: No, you're right, it should probably be flame throwers, right,

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Speaker 1: because they don't chase flame throwers in my experience. No, yeah,

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Speaker 1: what is something you think is underrated?

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Speaker 2: Kate, Well, I'm going to change my are because my

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Speaker 3: Was cats and were coover this take off.

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Speaker 2: So there's a podcast that I love so much. I

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Speaker 2: have nothing to do with. This podcast is just really

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Speaker 2: like it. It's called Citations Needed, and they do like

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Speaker 2: media critique, and you know, they just really really go

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Speaker 2: into like, you know, the framings on New York Times, Atlantic,

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Speaker 2: you know, so many of these like mainstream news sources,

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Speaker 2: That's like been such a huge source of education for me.

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Speaker 2: And I feel like it's a very popular podcast, but

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Speaker 2: it should be like twelve thousand times more famous than

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a lot of popular podcasts. Yeah, it's good.

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Speaker 1: It's good to hear about this one. So I don't

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Speaker 1: understand those that do they just read the New York Times.

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Speaker 1: How could you criticize the New York Times. They're objective

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Speaker 1: and just the paper.

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Speaker 3: Record, the records.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, you know, lady, Yeah, because democracy does in

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Speaker 3: That's Washington Post actually, dud. Yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 1: Also, but they're both like same in that they're just

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Speaker 3: So I don't know, yeah, I mean their source is

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Speaker 3: the police for all of it. But even this other

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Speaker 3: story about energy according to police, You're like, wait, what.

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Speaker 1: Uh huh yeah, ship according to police, wind power, wind

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Speaker 1: Now I'm total precision on strike. Just I mean, you

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And the reason you disagree is actually just China

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Speaker 3: And that's I don't even have TikTok. I just I

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Speaker 3: Actually, So I'm seventy has TikTok. Yeah, it's yeah, it's uh,

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Speaker 1: Yeah you were like really recently, no, could you give

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Speaker 3: We are used to Yeah, you guys being dumb. Dude. Yeahah,

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Speaker 3: And yeah, I hope that it just goes away anyway, Biden,

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Speaker 3: Are you kidding me? We're gonna fucking demolish this guy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like we can get away with so much we

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Speaker 2: like this rhetoric that like the other the other guy,

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Speaker 2: the Republicans will be worse, Like that can be it

435
00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:56,800
Speaker 2: can be literally used to justify anything, like there's no

436
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Speaker 2: limit to what it can be used to justify. And

437
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Speaker 2: I think we've seen that with like the Gouzel situation

438
00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:06,600
Speaker 2: is like you know, you'll you'll see people like be

439
00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:09,520
Speaker 2: like you know, oh well, like Trump would do ten

440
00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:11,120
Speaker 2: genocides and it's like.

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Speaker 1: What and in this one, I'm like to fuck up

442
00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:18,280
Speaker 1: and let Biden ignore this one?

443
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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, fund this one. That's what's so wild too,

444
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Speaker 3: because like, as I you know, we keep hearing about

445
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Speaker 3: you know, the the what the what the Republican will

446
00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:31,040
Speaker 3: Republicans will bring if Trump is president. But as you

447
00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:35,200
Speaker 3: look at it, I'm like, I'm you're you're you're brutalizing

448
00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:38,320
Speaker 3: peaceful protesters just like they were doing in twenty twenty

449
00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:41,359
Speaker 3: and years past every single time, And I'm like, is

450
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Speaker 3: it the only difference going to be It's like, well,

451
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Speaker 3: Biden will just allow students to be tasered and maced

452
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Speaker 3: and Trump would probably allow like full blown guns like

453
00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:53,760
Speaker 3: maybe a week in or something like that. Yeah, But

454
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Speaker 3: are we still dealing with the fact that we are

455
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Speaker 3: not allowing peaceful, non violent protest to happen, because that's

456
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Speaker 3: the up. And yeah, I'm like, you got it. I'm

457
00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:06,680
Speaker 3: doing a really bad job differentiating here, really bad job.

458
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Speaker 3: And that's on you. Actually, that's on you in your

459
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Speaker 3: brain do diffructiating. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, oh so you want Trump? No, I never

461
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Speaker 4: I don't want Trump. No, I know, I never said, well,

462
00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:21,960
Speaker 4: it sounds like you want Trump. I'm no, I'm saying

463
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Speaker 4: we need to be we need to be holding ship

464
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Speaker 4: to a higher standard. That's and people are fucking up bad.

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Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying. You said you want to be

466
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Speaker 4: holding ship.

467
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Speaker 3: So dude, this guy's a fun Did you hear the

468
00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:38,720
Speaker 3: studio city was a whole This guy was the whole

469
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Speaker 3: ship man.

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Speaker 5: No, anyways, you've done me, The media done me. Yeah,

471
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Speaker 5: got his ass. Yeah, all right, let's say, let's take

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Speaker 5: a quick break and we'll be right back.

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Speaker 1: And we're back and small little island of good news,

474
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Speaker 1: Maine officially becomes a trans and abortion care sanctuary state.

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Speaker 1: This is after attacks from transphobic online influencers, legal threats

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Speaker 1: from a group of Republican Attorneys general, multiple bomb threats

477
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Speaker 1: targeting the state House, the main Democratic Party headquarters, and

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Speaker 1: the homes of two legislators. Maine has officially become the

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Speaker 1: sixteenth state to explicitly protect transgender and abortion care and

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Speaker 1: state law for prosecution from prosecution after Governor Janet Mills

481
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Speaker 1: of Maine signed the LD two to twenty seventh Sanctuary Bill.

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Speaker 1: So an amazing piece of legislation.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they're also saying that it's like, yo, we're not

484
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Speaker 3: going to cooperate with people trying to come in and

485
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Speaker 3: you know what's the word I'm looking for when they extradition,

486
00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:57,720
Speaker 3: like extradition extradite yeah, yeah, or or cooperation with law

487
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Speaker 3: enforcement out of state for people who are like they

488
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Speaker 3: can to Maine for gender affirming care and it's like, yeah, sorry,

489
00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:05,320
Speaker 3: like you can't, Like we're not stay the fuck out

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Speaker 3: because that's what we're trying to do. Yeah, A very

491
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Speaker 3: a nice I thought for first, when he said an island,

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Speaker 3: I thought you were calling Maine an island, and I

493
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Speaker 3: was like, in a way, I kind of I'm not

494
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Speaker 3: good at geography. Okay, the the humble island of Maine. Yes, yes,

495
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Speaker 3: I mean like that's it feels like it up there.

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Speaker 3: Up there on the tip there.

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Speaker 1: It's a really beautiful, enormous state that I mean, it's

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Speaker 1: it's also very rural. You see someone shut up in

499
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Speaker 1: Maine if you ever do drive through ord Air. The

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Speaker 1: extensive new law means the gender affirming care and reproductive

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Speaker 1: healthcare are legal rights in Maine and states that criminal

502
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Speaker 1: and civil actions against providers and patients are not enforceable

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Speaker 1: if the provision or access to the care occurred within

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Speaker 1: Maine's borders. So yeah, like Miles said, like they can't

505
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Speaker 1: other states can't come in and basically you know, issue

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Speaker 1: arrest warrants.

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Speaker 3: I mean until they tryntill they Yeah, that's kind of

508
00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:04,719
Speaker 3: the fucking weird part is that, Yeah, we're having to

509
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Speaker 3: just sort of codify it in this very specific ways.

510
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Speaker 3: I don't even think that if you have fucking wacky

511
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Speaker 3: laws on your books wherever you are, that you can

512
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Speaker 3: come in and start running shit over here. But yeah,

513
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Speaker 3: oh wow, but it sounds like a full on terror

514
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Speaker 3: campaign to try and stop this.

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Speaker 1: It's really like I do. Also, I wanted to bring

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Speaker 1: this up because it just like as we talked about

517
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Speaker 1: on yesterday's Trending episode, as we talked about already on

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Speaker 1: this episode. The treatment of peaceful protesters in the in

519
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Speaker 1: the US right now is at the forefront of everyone's mind,

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00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:42,200
Speaker 1: and on social media you see a lot of people

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Speaker 1: who don't want this to be the case, who are

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Speaker 1: like they weren't actually that peaceful, like they were, you know,

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Speaker 1: scaring people and.

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Speaker 3: Sitting down on the grass.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's like, you know, that can be a opinion. Okay,

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Speaker 1: that could be a thing gesture. But like, first of all,

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00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:06,200
Speaker 1: the two places, like I keep seeing people compare it

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Speaker 1: to like being like well back in the seventies and sixties,

529
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Speaker 1: like we were peaceful protesters, and it's like compared to them,

530
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:16,960
Speaker 1: know the fuck you were not like that at Kent State.

531
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Speaker 1: Like the things that the peaceful protesters at Kent State

532
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Speaker 1: did would buy today's standards by these people said, like

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Speaker 1: they broke a bank window or something broke like a

534
00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:30,200
Speaker 1: shop window, they like that would that would be cause

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Speaker 1: for like the entire nation to be thrown into fucking

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Speaker 1: lockdown today, Like they they like jokingly told students to

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Speaker 1: kill their parents, like at the Kent State thing, and

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00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:46,800
Speaker 1: like that was used as justification to like bring in

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Speaker 1: the National Guard. But like those would be read as

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Speaker 1: like declarations of all at war on America were they

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Speaker 1: to be done today by a group of like pro

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Speaker 1: Palestinian protesters, Like yeah, and then you have this on

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Speaker 1: the right, like the things that they're doing, like the

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Speaker 1: the bomb threats, the just like threat physical threats of

545
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:10,720
Speaker 1: violence that like constantly happen on the right and just

546
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Speaker 1: get completely fucking ignored by the mainstream media.

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Speaker 3: Like this is just it's like a.

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Speaker 1: Detail of a of an alternate story. But it's like

549
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:26,200
Speaker 1: not not the focus, not like you know, the no,

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Speaker 1: nobody wants to like make that a front page news story.

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Speaker 1: It's just the the double standard is pretty incredible and

552
00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:38,880
Speaker 1: has been for years. Like you know, the anti abortion

553
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:42,800
Speaker 1: like violence that has happened is like the one type

554
00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 1: of violence like that that is like ideological that does

555
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:48,720
Speaker 1: not get called terrorism.

556
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Speaker 3: Usually they're just like.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they blew up a clinic, but it's like, no,

558
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Speaker 1: that's fucking that they're killing people along ideological lines like that.

559
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:05,240
Speaker 1: That's terrorism by any other standard except the standard in

560
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:06,840
Speaker 1: the American one, of course.

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Speaker 2: It is.

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00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's like really desperate, as you're mentioning, there's this

564
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:15,800
Speaker 2: like very you know, desperate attempt to obscure the fact

565
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:20,280
Speaker 2: that like, you know, most like political violence that happens

566
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Speaker 2: in this country, the overwhelming majority is like right wing psychos.

567
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:28,160
Speaker 2: Sorry to not describe that in a very you know,

568
00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:31,480
Speaker 2: objective way, but like, you know, these people who have

569
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:35,080
Speaker 2: like bombed abortion clinics or you know, like some of

570
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 2: the people who stormed the capitol, like you know, that's

571
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 2: that is violent. But you know, it's like you'll see

572
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:45,600
Speaker 2: like these you know, headlines. One of the headlines I

573
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Speaker 2: saw about I think it was the protest at Yale,

574
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Speaker 2: was that one of the Yale protesters like stabbed someone

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Speaker 2: in the eye. And you know, I read that and

576
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:57,080
Speaker 2: I was like, oh my god, this is horrible, Like

577
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Speaker 2: whatever whoever did that is you know a discraine. You

578
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:03,520
Speaker 2: can't stab people in the eye for any reason.

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Speaker 3: But it's been in a position for a while now.

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Speaker 2: Actually yeah, but you know, this was frames in the

581
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:14,720
Speaker 2: headlines that this person stabs someone in the eye because

582
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:18,520
Speaker 2: the person that they stabbed was Jewish, and I'm like,

583
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:22,560
Speaker 2: that's just that's a disgusting thing to do. Then I

584
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 2: saw the video of this incident. Have you seen it? Yeah, yeah,

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00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 2: so someone so there's a student or maybe I don't

586
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 2: even know if the person was a student. But someone

587
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Speaker 2: is walking by with a very tiny, tiny, tiny little

588
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Speaker 2: flag and is you know, kind of waving the flag

589
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:47,320
Speaker 2: back and forth bumps into someone very lightly. They to me,

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Speaker 2: it seems clear that they did not even see the

591
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Speaker 2: person that they bumped into. That this was the situation

592
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:56,720
Speaker 2: of like they were looking in the other direction and

593
00:32:56,840 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 2: waving their flag very lightly. Like there was no way

594
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:04,480
Speaker 2: that this was any kind of stabbing. It wasn't a

595
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Speaker 2: targeted incident. I don't think that they even saw the

596
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Speaker 2: person that they bumped into enough to you know, know

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Speaker 2: that person's religion or ethnicity. They weren't looking at them.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it was just well and then there was

599
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Speaker 3: even a report that they were even saying that like

600
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:20,200
Speaker 3: they went to like a they were told to like, yeah,

601
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Speaker 3: maybe go get that checked out. And you're like if

602
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Speaker 3: you were stabbed, if you were stabbed in the eye,

603
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:28,800
Speaker 3: I think like like someone with ems would be like,

604
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Speaker 3: oh my god, you're stabbed in the eye, like versus like, hey,

605
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:34,440
Speaker 3: if it's bugging you, you can go you should maybe

606
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Speaker 3: go to the doctor to get it checked out. Yeah,

607
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:40,280
Speaker 3: since you were stabbed in the eye. Yeah, but yeah,

608
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 3: But going back to like I mean this is we've

609
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:45,480
Speaker 3: we always have these moments where you have to remind

610
00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:49,920
Speaker 3: yourself how entrenched our mainstream media is with just the

611
00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:53,240
Speaker 3: like the principles of the United States that they're all

612
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 3: they all work together, hand in hand to maintain the

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Speaker 3: status quo of being a white supremacist, capitalist patriarchy. And

614
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 3: so when you go up against one of those, you know,

615
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:08,280
Speaker 3: we have many pillars, but those three pillars, all bets

616
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:10,800
Speaker 3: are off on how you can be treated. January sixth.

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Speaker 3: That's okay because you're there, because you're you're they're in

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00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:16,640
Speaker 3: service of a candidate who wants to uphold the status

619
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Speaker 3: quo exactly racism and the brutal economic violence of the nation. So,

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Speaker 3: y'all are good people who are peacefully protesting police violence

621
00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:27,279
Speaker 3: and over policing. We'll see now now you're fucking Now

622
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 3: you're fucking with one of our temples. Yeah, and you

623
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:32,200
Speaker 3: will feel the whole fucking might of the state come

624
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:35,720
Speaker 3: down on you. And now, unfortunately, these student protests non violent,

625
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:40,040
Speaker 3: but we're talking about the fucking we're talking about American

626
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:44,400
Speaker 3: hegemony and our foreign policy. Yeah, guess what the state

627
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:47,000
Speaker 3: is going to fucking do what it can to crush

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00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:50,640
Speaker 3: you and it. Yeah, and I'm sure well pretty soon

629
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:52,440
Speaker 3: in the next few days, we'll start seeing the media

630
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Speaker 3: do some kind of run some kind of shit to

631
00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:59,160
Speaker 3: try and obscure or recontextualize what these non violent student

632
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:01,400
Speaker 3: protests are, to try and discredit them and be like

633
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 3: and like, it's not even like a fucking big deal.

634
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:06,319
Speaker 3: These kids are tripping or like they're fucking brainwashed by

635
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 3: whatever they.

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00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:11,319
Speaker 2: The Wall Street Journal, let me see if I can

637
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:14,760
Speaker 2: find it the exact headline. But the Wall Street Journal

638
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 2: like was already saying that, you know, the protesters are

639
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 2: I think, don't call me on this, but they were.

640
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 2: They were like fund funded by Hamas or like had

641
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 2: ties to Hamas.

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00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:32,480
Speaker 3: Yes, some anti Israel protesters are paid. I just saw

643
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:36,279
Speaker 3: this one. Rockefeller and Soros grants are subsidizing those who

644
00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:38,399
Speaker 3: disrupt college campuses.

645
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:43,680
Speaker 2: Which is on anti Semitic conspiracy theory, like the they

646
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 2: like George Soros funds everything. You know, George Soros is

647
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 2: is behind the scenes pulling the string. That is like

648
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:55,040
Speaker 2: one of the core anti Semitic Nazi conspiracy theories in

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Speaker 2: the United States.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, it's like which one is it? What? What

651
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:03,400
Speaker 3: is so George Soros is now anti Israel?

652
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Speaker 1: I don't know, man, you tell me, man, I'm just

653
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 1: we're just trying to say.

654
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:17,040
Speaker 2: Journal Okay, So here here's here's the headline, the actual headline. Uh,

655
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:19,840
Speaker 2: it's from the Wall Street Journal. Who's behind the anti

656
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:22,799
Speaker 2: Israel protests? Which is a hell of a framing to

657
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 2: begin with, But who's behind the anti Israel protests? Hamas

658
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:32,360
Speaker 2: has Blah, the Hutis and others are grooming, not that

659
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:35,960
Speaker 2: we're grooming activists in the US and across the West.

660
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:39,960
Speaker 2: And you know, it's just like, uh, I think that

661
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:44,280
Speaker 2: there's this look. I have protested, and I think most

662
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:47,920
Speaker 2: people have protested. You know, there's there's various reasons, but

663
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:50,080
Speaker 2: I think the core reason for a lot of people

664
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:55,760
Speaker 2: is like, you know, we we see we see pictures

665
00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:59,239
Speaker 2: of all these you know, dead children, and we're like,

666
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 2: this is very sad and it's very wrong, and it's

667
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 2: like they haven't. The social media is part of it,

668
00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 2: but there's there's an emotional response to seeing civilians, especially children,

669
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:14,239
Speaker 2: horribly injured or killed. And I think that that's a

670
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:18,799
Speaker 2: very human response and it's like outrage. Yeah, yeah, these

671
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 2: these headlines. It's like, and I think even the stuff

672
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:25,400
Speaker 2: that like Nancy Pelosi says about how you know this

673
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:28,640
Speaker 2: is backed by Vladimir Putin or the Chinese government or whatever,

674
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:33,560
Speaker 2: it's like they can't even acknowledge the possibility that some

675
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:37,719
Speaker 2: number of people, probably the majority of people, are like, wow,

676
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:40,920
Speaker 2: killing kids. That's very sad, you know.

677
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:45,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, they're oh, I I've been incentivized to look

678
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:46,479
Speaker 3: the other way this whole.

679
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:47,000
Speaker 2: Yeah.

680
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:50,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're just like they're like parents who are like,

681
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:54,279
Speaker 1: don't you remember when you were young, Like you used

682
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:56,320
Speaker 1: to believe everything we said?

683
00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, exactly.

684
00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:01,759
Speaker 3: You used to eat gummy candies of our warplanes. Yeah.

685
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:04,759
Speaker 3: Now now you you're so mad at me. Now you

686
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:11,960
Speaker 3: call them instruments of state violences. Yeah, this is not

687
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:15,719
Speaker 3: my child anymore. Who I was able to fucking you

688
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:19,120
Speaker 3: know see all the time. Yeah, it's and I think

689
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:20,840
Speaker 3: that's what's like really interesting when I look at this

690
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:24,640
Speaker 3: all is we talk about how increasingly more engaged and

691
00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:27,399
Speaker 3: intelligent these younger generations are becoming, and like I'm wondering

692
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:29,360
Speaker 3: if they're I mean, they must be looking at this

693
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 3: they're like, dude, we've got a fucking like these kids

694
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:36,839
Speaker 3: are getting smarter and more radical. Yeah, and what the

695
00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:39,480
Speaker 3: fuck are we gonna do about this? And I guess

696
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:42,359
Speaker 3: like they's just one response is like just fucking call

697
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:45,759
Speaker 3: them the goon squad. Yeah, as a solution, rather than

698
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:49,719
Speaker 3: like a rational human being try and understand what is

699
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:52,680
Speaker 3: driving people to act and being like, well, can we

700
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:54,720
Speaker 3: do that? And again, I think that's when it reveals.

701
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:57,960
Speaker 3: It reveals why both parties are still they're from the

702
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:01,320
Speaker 3: same Well. Yeah, it's like like we cannot go against

703
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:03,920
Speaker 3: the military industrial complict. Who the fuck is going to

704
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:06,200
Speaker 3: say that unless you're like one of these on you know,

705
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:10,920
Speaker 3: on the fringe, meaning not necessarily mainstream politicians who's like,

706
00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 3: we have to stop all this like fucking unchained military spending.

707
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:17,520
Speaker 3: That's never going to be the main stream because that's

708
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:20,799
Speaker 3: America runs on. Duncan baby, that's just what we do.

709
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:26,800
Speaker 2: The core assumption, like legitimizing, like to the public, US

710
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:33,880
Speaker 2: foreign policy since nine to eleven has been some version,

711
00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:39,400
Speaker 2: some you know, unsophisticated version of like you know, Islam

712
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 2: equals terror, right right, It's like, you know, like and

713
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:47,840
Speaker 2: and because of this, like anybody who is Muslim or Arab,

714
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:53,319
Speaker 2: you know, can be held collectively responsible for the actions

715
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:58,040
Speaker 2: of you know, legitimate terrorist actions like Osama bin Ladens

716
00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:01,520
Speaker 2: or whatever, but we responded to like nine to eleven horrible.

717
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:06,280
Speaker 2: But like people, there's no problem just you know, holding

718
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:11,240
Speaker 2: the people of Iraq responsible for that or Afghanistan, because

719
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:14,160
Speaker 2: it's just like, yeah, you know, you can just you know,

720
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:17,720
Speaker 2: if they were Muslim, they should you know, get bombed

721
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:21,680
Speaker 2: or whatever. And it's like younger kids. Gen Z definitely

722
00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:25,400
Speaker 2: doesn't believe that most millennials doesn't believe that, you know,

723
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 2: like people, we live in a diverse society where you know,

724
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 2: people are like they may have friends that are Muslims

725
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:37,080
Speaker 2: or you know, they may be you know, like they're

726
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:41,480
Speaker 2: you know, listening to work from people from you know,

727
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:44,160
Speaker 2: all over the world and stuff, and like this kind

728
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:48,600
Speaker 2: of like core racism and Islamophobia, like it just doesn't work.

729
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:52,440
Speaker 2: And like none of this stuff that the US government

730
00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:57,560
Speaker 2: is doing makes sense unless you buy into that assumption,

731
00:40:57,760 --> 00:40:59,799
Speaker 2: which the kids do not buy into.

732
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:05,960
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, the racist old grandpa or racist parent.

733
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:10,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're gonna like yeah, and yeah, it's just there's

734
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:13,200
Speaker 1: a disconnect and they can't get their fucking mind around it.

735
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:16,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're calling the kids like the student protesters. I've

736
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:19,520
Speaker 2: seen a bunch of people call them like g haughties, yeah,

737
00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:23,319
Speaker 2: or say that they're trying to protest to institute sharia law.

738
00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:25,880
Speaker 2: And this is really just grandpa racism.

739
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:26,279
Speaker 3: Yeah.

740
00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:28,680
Speaker 2: I know this because I had a white grandpa who

741
00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:32,080
Speaker 2: was buryed into Fox News, and I know I know

742
00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 2: when something is that perspective.

743
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:38,240
Speaker 3: Of right and it's a purposely bad, bad faith analysis

744
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:41,040
Speaker 3: to be like, well, because I can't say what they're

745
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:44,319
Speaker 3: literally saying, which is like, we want to stop the genocide.

746
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:47,160
Speaker 3: We need an immediate ceasefire. Innocent people are dying. We

747
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:50,719
Speaker 3: want our school to divest from businesses that are actively

748
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:54,480
Speaker 3: profiting off of this. That's what it is. No one

749
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:57,560
Speaker 3: is a fucking sign that says man sharia law. Now

750
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:02,200
Speaker 3: to go to these sort of thought killing cliches for

751
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:04,520
Speaker 3: people to be like, oh they want shariala okay, well,

752
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:06,759
Speaker 3: I don't know what do these people are off their shit?

753
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:10,560
Speaker 2: Yeah. Even the stuff that's considered like, you know, very radical,

754
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:13,480
Speaker 2: Like the viewpoint that it's considered like, you know, so

755
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:18,839
Speaker 2: radical that it can't even be discussed, is that you know,

756
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:22,440
Speaker 2: between the Jordan River and the Mediterranean, seeing it should

757
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:27,040
Speaker 2: be one person, one vote, that everybody should have equal rights. Yeah,

758
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 2: everybody should have equal protection under the law. And you know,

759
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 2: you almost never see that argument represented, you know, just

760
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:37,960
Speaker 2: as it is, like what the argument is actually for,

761
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:42,760
Speaker 2: because I think a lot of Americans agree with that argument.

762
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:46,120
Speaker 2: Like our country has already had a huge debate about,

763
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:51,120
Speaker 2: you know, whether it's okay to deny people voting rights

764
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:54,880
Speaker 2: based on their race or ethnicity, and like, you know,

765
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:57,399
Speaker 2: so it's just like there has to be like these

766
00:42:57,400 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 2: sort of like bad faith, like these kids support terror

767
00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:04,319
Speaker 2: or whatever, because if they say what those kids are

768
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:07,759
Speaker 2: actually believe, like too many people are going to be like, oh,

769
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:09,719
Speaker 2: I don't know. That actually sort of makes sense.

770
00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:13,640
Speaker 3: But no, they're anti you know, child murder, like child

771
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:16,520
Speaker 3: murder and being buried under rebel. It's like, why disagree?

772
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:20,319
Speaker 3: It's like so then you're pro that? Yeah, yeah, no, yeah,

773
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:23,839
Speaker 3: well hmm, do you want to meet me where I'm at?

774
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:25,680
Speaker 3: Because if it is, then you have to really define

775
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 3: where you're coming from, because if it's if it's that

776
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 3: well articulated like it is in ninety five percent of

777
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 3: the cases, yeah, then yeah you can. Only the only

778
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 3: thing you do without yourself is being like, well, then

779
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:39,280
Speaker 3: I'm I'm pro death of innocence.

780
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:44,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, exactly. Nobody will articulate the real viewpoints here,

781
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:48,880
Speaker 2: because it's pretty obvious that one of those viewpoints is

782
00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:53,120
Speaker 2: I'm pro murdering children, which has very few actual sympathizers.

783
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:56,520
Speaker 1: Yeah right, yeah, all right, let's uh, let's take a

784
00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:59,319
Speaker 1: quick break and we'll come back and talk about some

785
00:43:59,440 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 1: dumb bullshit.

786
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:12,720
Speaker 3: We'll be right back, and we're back.

787
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:18,240
Speaker 1: We're back, and AI has taken the tech world by storm.

788
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:22,120
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, baby, wave of the future. Mm hmm, Okay,

789
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:27,759
Speaker 1: some really funny pictures of Biden doing drugs off of

790
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:29,320
Speaker 1: America's gravestone.

791
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:31,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, I did that when I was cool. I did

792
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:34,960
Speaker 3: that in uh in Dolly. It looked kind of grainy,

793
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:37,359
Speaker 3: but it was all right. Or you know, you can

794
00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 3: you can get tupac entered the Kendrick and Drake beef,

795
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:44,279
Speaker 3: you know, because of AI. Or there's there's everything, you

796
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:46,640
Speaker 3: can do it all, you can do it all. But yeah,

797
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:48,960
Speaker 3: the big thing that I saw in this Wired story

798
00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:52,560
Speaker 3: is it seems like the latest trend on social media

799
00:44:53,400 --> 00:45:00,880
Speaker 3: is ads for erotic AI girlfriends and companions. According to Wired,

800
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 3: there's like, you know, you can search like all the

801
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:06,480
Speaker 3: ads that have ran on Facebook like in certain instances,

802
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:09,560
Speaker 3: and they found that at least twenty nine thousand ads

803
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:14,480
Speaker 3: had been published on Meta platforms for explicit AI quote girlfriends,

804
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:18,680
Speaker 3: with most using suggestive sex related messaging. There were also

805
00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:22,360
Speaker 3: at least nineteen thousand ads using the term NSFW and

806
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:28,360
Speaker 3: fourteen thousand were offering NSFWAI and some twenty seven hundred

807
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:32,000
Speaker 3: ads were active. When Wired reached out to Meta, They're like, hey,

808
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:35,400
Speaker 3: what's up with all the fucking AI fuck bot ads

809
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:38,319
Speaker 3: that you got on there? And the spokesperson said, oh, yeah,

810
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:40,279
Speaker 3: we prohibit that kind of content and we're going to

811
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:44,160
Speaker 3: get right on it. And then like fucking two days ago,

812
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:46,640
Speaker 3: a Wired look and it's now there's three thousand ads

813
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 3: for AI girlfriends and eleven hundred containing NSFW that were

814
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:56,720
Speaker 3: still live on the platform. So these chatbots promise users

815
00:45:56,800 --> 00:46:00,880
Speaker 3: all kinds of erotic interactions, like from raunchy chat to

816
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:06,040
Speaker 3: AI generated porn images or like undressing your AI girlfriend

817
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:09,160
Speaker 3: and then like you can finally unlock the nudie pictures

818
00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:13,879
Speaker 3: or whatever. You can even do images of humans or animals,

819
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:16,279
Speaker 3: you know, however you want to get down, And they

820
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:18,239
Speaker 3: even have ship where you can be chatting, you know,

821
00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:22,000
Speaker 3: with again this porn trope that is just at the

822
00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:24,359
Speaker 3: root cause of everything that's wrong with America, and it's

823
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:26,799
Speaker 3: like you can fucking chat with your hot step mom

824
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 3: and like, yeah, fucking down with your AI step mom.

825
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:38,040
Speaker 2: Ew sorry step related part related.

826
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:44,560
Speaker 3: It's not like some Oedipus ship. All right, step mom.

827
00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:48,319
Speaker 2: I was talking about like how I thought that, like

828
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:52,000
Speaker 2: the step family porn genre was like really gross. One

829
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:53,719
Speaker 2: day I was talking to a friend about it. I

830
00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:57,600
Speaker 2: was like, yeah, you know, it's just like it's really nassy.

831
00:46:57,760 --> 00:46:59,839
Speaker 2: Like She's like, I actually think it's hot.

832
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:00,799
Speaker 3: So I'm like, I.

833
00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:03,800
Speaker 2: Get I guess some people are very into this stuff.

834
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:06,000
Speaker 2: More a lot of people must be into this stuff,

835
00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:07,680
Speaker 2: because that's like.

836
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:10,400
Speaker 3: Some Brady Bunch shit. I remember like in The Brady Bunch.

837
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:12,480
Speaker 3: I think it was like the first or second movie

838
00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:15,080
Speaker 3: when Greg and Jan had to ship like split the

839
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:17,920
Speaker 3: attic basement, but like through a sheet and like they

840
00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:19,799
Speaker 3: were all getting hot for each other. I'm like, see,

841
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:22,839
Speaker 3: this is what the fuck is going on? And Marsha right, oh, Marsha, yeah,

842
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:26,399
Speaker 3: come on yeah, sorry, yeah sorry, man, I'm that was

843
00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:27,640
Speaker 3: for a while.

844
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:30,960
Speaker 2: It's like sexual tension between step siblings.

845
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:33,799
Speaker 3: That was like, and I'm sure too, like with their

846
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:36,120
Speaker 3: rate of divorce in America, there are probably a lot

847
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:38,480
Speaker 3: of blended families. And then they're just like, yeah, man,

848
00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:40,040
Speaker 3: this is kind of where your head goes.

849
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:43,080
Speaker 1: There's a lot of blended families where people are getting

850
00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:45,719
Speaker 1: stuck inside washing machines and need help getting out.

851
00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:49,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, and they're only wearing an apron with nothing else on.

852
00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:50,759
Speaker 3: It just is what it is.

853
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:53,480
Speaker 2: And I, you know, I'm just I you know, I'm

854
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:55,560
Speaker 2: not trying to be me in here, but I will

855
00:47:55,600 --> 00:48:00,759
Speaker 2: say it does sound like you're talking about AI chatbot girlfriends,

856
00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:03,279
Speaker 2: like they're not real girlfriends. And I just want to say, like,

857
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:05,919
Speaker 2: if your feminism doesn't include.

858
00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:09,520
Speaker 3: Robots, yeah, where are we even? Is that the farm

859
00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:12,600
Speaker 3: wave that we're about to catch is just bringing in

860
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:15,160
Speaker 3: the AI sex workers too, and being like, no, this

861
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Speaker 3: is this also kinds because this is the thing. A

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Speaker 3: lot of actual human sex workers have quickly pointed out

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Speaker 3: this fucking weird double standard. Gemma Rose, who's the director

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Speaker 3: of the pole Dance Stripper Movement, which like a UK

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Speaker 3: based sex worker rights or organization, said, quote, as a

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Speaker 3: sex worker, if I put anything like I will do

867
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Speaker 3: anything for you. I will make you come in a minute.

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Speaker 3: I would be deleted in an instant because a lot

869
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Speaker 3: of these ads are like you will fucking blast your

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Speaker 3: whole nut off in one minute of talking with this

871
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Speaker 3: AI fuck bot. And Miles does work as a copywriter.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, who in the sky?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, oh my god, that's so gross.

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Speaker 3: Like but what's wild is like these guidelines, right, how

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00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:03,080
Speaker 3: I've just affected like sex workers, Like people know if

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Speaker 3: you create content around things like sex positivity or sex

877
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:09,200
Speaker 3: education like suddenly Instagram like yeah, flagging that shit. It's

878
00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:11,640
Speaker 3: like I'm telling you people about the fucking human body.

879
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Speaker 3: But you can run ads where it's like, hey man,

880
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Speaker 3: you want to fuck your step mom right this way,

881
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Speaker 3: see her fully nude with this chatbot. And it's not

882
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Speaker 3: clear what like Meta's next move is here. I mean,

883
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Speaker 3: they may just do like a massive purge of those

884
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Speaker 3: kinds of accounts like they did with like sex worker

885
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Speaker 3: accounts too. But apparently a lot of the reason these

886
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Speaker 3: platforms have cracked down on sex work too, even recently,

887
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Speaker 3: is because of a sex trafficking bill that became long

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Speaker 3: twenty eighteen, which basically made platforms responsible for like what

889
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Speaker 3: is posted. Yeah, but then that also unfortunately led to

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Speaker 3: like the restriction of consensual sex work or like consensual

891
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Speaker 3: sex work being categorized as trafficking like overall in the

892
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Speaker 3: online world.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and sex workers told us at that time. I'm like, hey,

894
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Speaker 2: this is what they're trying to do here, you know,

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Speaker 2: but like this is obviously like to crack down on

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Speaker 2: consensual sex work and a fitty thing. It's going to

897
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Speaker 2: and danger trafficking victims even more, you know, And that

898
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Speaker 2: has come to be the case. But you know, people

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Speaker 2: don't listen to sex workers when, you know, when they

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Speaker 2: express what's going to be good for them, you know,

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Speaker 2: law wise or not.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, sex workers are maybe the most kind of undervalued

903
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Speaker 1: human beings in like the US mainstream media. Like they

904
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Speaker 1: just aren't counted as human beings in a lot of cases.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, which is weird because it's like everybody is and

906
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Speaker 2: I won't say everybody like you know, but there's I

907
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Speaker 2: would say that most men in the United States are

908
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Speaker 2: engaging with pornography on some level or another. Like I

909
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Speaker 2: certainly haven't very met very many men who aren't watching

910
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Speaker 2: like porn sometimes at least and also a lot of

911
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Speaker 2: women and also a lot of non binary people. But

912
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Speaker 2: you know, it's like this product that you know, so

913
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Speaker 2: many people are consuming, but the workers it's fine to

914
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Speaker 2: just you know, treat them as horribly as possible.

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Speaker 3: Right exactly, Because again, yeah, it's like it's like, well,

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Speaker 3: you know, that's in line with the patriarchal aspects of

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Speaker 3: this country and also like the puritanical ones. It's like, well,

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Speaker 3: I mean like if women are suffering or then maybe

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Speaker 3: that's okay. Yeah, but yeah, for something that we call

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Speaker 3: the oldest profession, we should I feel like give a

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Speaker 3: little bit more respect to it. Yes, this profession has

922
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Speaker 3: been around for a long time, so there's a lot

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Speaker 3: of momentum to sex work.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: We talked about how like this platform that is a

926
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Speaker 1: competitor to only fans called Fanview that specializes in like

927
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Speaker 1: AI models, right, is like doing incredibly well. So like

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Speaker 1: this is this is happening for sure, gonna it's gonna come,

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Speaker 1: And I feel like people aren't going to stop it

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Speaker 1: because it's just taking away sex workers ability to make

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Speaker 1: a living and nobody is making. In the history of America,

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Speaker 1: laws and legislation protecting sex work has been shockingly absent.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but how quickly too. It's like, oh, yeah, we

934
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Speaker 3: can usher like this, this can take people's jobs. We'll

935
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Speaker 3: just let this this this tech version of like weird

936
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Speaker 3: algorithmic sex work be like the norm or whatever, and yeah,

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Speaker 3: well we will welcome your ad dollars, but not an

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Speaker 3: actual person.

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Speaker 1: No, so does the step mom thing that like they're

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Speaker 1: using on the step mom thing pictures of like people's

941
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Speaker 1: step moms, Like is that what that means?

942
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Speaker 3: Or is can you like load your own step mom?

943
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Speaker 1: But I'm serious, that is like such a fucking violation

944
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Speaker 1: of product, Like if you're taking from Facebook and I

945
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Speaker 1: don't know not I think it's role play.

946
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, well cause already, I mean this is

947
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Speaker 3: where we're This is where it's so sticky. We've talked

948
00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:11,000
Speaker 3: already and like that AI beauty pageant thing how people

949
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Speaker 3: have just had their likeness just fully ripped from the Internet. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: that's what I'm saying, Like that's the future where we're

951
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Speaker 3: headed like that. I mean, it's already happening to celebrities,

952
00:53:19,600 --> 00:53:22,920
Speaker 3: but like I'm sure, like the fact that this is

953
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Speaker 3: happening on Facebook, Like I'm sure there's a future where

954
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Speaker 3: that's what people like that is what is being offered,

955
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Speaker 3: or at least not openly offered. But yeah, the service

956
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Speaker 3: that's being provided, which is so fucked up. Yeah, I'm

957
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Speaker 3: sure we're only i mean, like without legislation, I mean,

958
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Speaker 3: we're going to be there pretty quick. Like yeah, it's

959
00:53:42,040 --> 00:53:44,560
Speaker 3: probably gonna be like give us four pictures of a person,

960
00:53:44,719 --> 00:53:47,319
Speaker 3: like how it is now when people are like, hey, man,

961
00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:50,040
Speaker 3: want to make like your cool Disney like Pixar version

962
00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:52,799
Speaker 3: of yourself, It's like, give us five pictures. Yeah, and

963
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:54,839
Speaker 3: that's just all the data we need and we could

964
00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:59,120
Speaker 3: probably faithfully recreate your likeness. And what's going to stop

965
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Speaker 3: that from like just kind of like fucked up violating.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's just gonna be there's gonna be so much

967
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Speaker 2: revenge porn, but it won't even be like actual videos

968
00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:12,880
Speaker 2: of the person, and it'll just be like, you know,

969
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Speaker 2: a guy doesn't like a woman that you know, turned

970
00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:17,799
Speaker 2: him down or whatever, so he's going to generate some

971
00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:20,520
Speaker 2: AI porn of her blasted all over the internet.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, horribly Well cool. Well, I'm sure the US government

973
00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:28,120
Speaker 1: has our back on that one. They'll probably figure it out.

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Speaker 2: Figure out, But at least they banned TikTok yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 1: Right, that's that's that that makes me sleep better at night.

976
00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:39,319
Speaker 1: But it's been such a pleasure having you on the

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Speaker 1: daily Zeitgeist. Where can people find you? Follow you all

978
00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:43,640
Speaker 1: that good stuff?

979
00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:46,759
Speaker 2: Okay? Cool? So yeah, you know I did. I did

980
00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:49,640
Speaker 2: go off about political stuff a lot on this podcast,

981
00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:52,719
Speaker 2: but I also made a comedy special, which isn't it

982
00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:55,000
Speaker 2: doesn't have that much to do with politics. I have

983
00:54:55,040 --> 00:54:58,839
Speaker 2: a new special out on Amazon and Apple TV called Loopholes,

984
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Speaker 2: and it is about you know, it's it's about kind

985
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Speaker 2: of like the expectations on the Modern Lady, some of

986
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Speaker 2: the which we're talking about now, but like you know, sex, domesticity,

987
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Speaker 2: trad wives, reproductive rights, and you know, I think it's

988
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Speaker 2: really funny special. I'm excited to put it out and

989
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Speaker 2: you can get it on Amazon, Apple TV or it's

990
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Speaker 2: on YouTube as well. And I am on Instagram at

991
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Speaker 2: Kate Willett, which is a really good place to you know,

992
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Speaker 2: see my tour dates. I'm probably coming to your study

993
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Speaker 2: very soon, and I'm I'm releasing a new podcast at

994
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Speaker 2: the beginning of May, so if you want to check

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Speaker 2: that out, it's going to be called Ruining Dinner and

996
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Speaker 2: it's going to be released in a couple of weeks.

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Speaker 3: Here dinner about Oh so.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to have people on to talk about their

999
00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:54,160
Speaker 2: most awkward conversation topic, like the thing that they're not

1000
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Speaker 2: supposed to say, like you know, yeah, comedians but also

1001
00:55:58,520 --> 00:56:02,040
Speaker 2: journalists and like whatever, the topic that people ruined dinner with.

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Speaker 2: We're going to talk about that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, British cole gas study for me. Oh, British coal

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Speaker 3: gas study here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I love talking about suicide at dinner parties.

1006
00:56:13,040 --> 00:56:15,920
Speaker 3: You know what's interesting, actually, you stop using coal gas?

1007
00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:18,760
Speaker 3: Oh my god, hey speaking of coal. Nobody said anything

1008
00:56:18,760 --> 00:56:22,920
Speaker 3: about coal? Uh oh wait were you just using the oven? Okay,

1009
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Speaker 3: so decades ago, Kate.

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Speaker 1: Is there a work of media that you've been enjoying

1011
00:56:28,600 --> 00:56:30,320
Speaker 1: besides your own special of course?

1012
00:56:30,680 --> 00:56:33,759
Speaker 2: Well, I think like the tweet that I say originally

1013
00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:38,040
Speaker 2: was like a tweet from more Perfect Union, and it

1014
00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:42,120
Speaker 2: was about how Hawaii is going to ban or severely

1015
00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:45,480
Speaker 2: restrict Airbnb, and I'm excited about that. I think that

1016
00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:46,320
Speaker 2: that's a positive.

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00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:47,200
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1018
00:56:47,280 --> 00:56:49,960
Speaker 2: So to finally see some pushback on like these sech

1019
00:56:50,040 --> 00:56:53,000
Speaker 2: companies that are taking all these people's housing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, amazing miles. Where can people find you? Is there

1021
00:56:56,440 --> 00:57:01,520
Speaker 1: a working media you've been enjoying, uh, Twitter, Instagram and

1022
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Speaker 1: the like at Miles of Gray.

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Speaker 3: If you want to hear well, I wasn't quite crying

1024
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Speaker 3: yet about the Lakers on the latest episode of Miles

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00:57:08,440 --> 00:57:10,239
Speaker 3: and jackot Mad Boosties. I mean I was, I was

1026
00:57:10,280 --> 00:57:13,359
Speaker 3: preparing for for terrible pain. You're getting a tear Duck's

1027
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Speaker 3: warm Yeah, yeah, yeah, next episode, I will fully be

1028
00:57:16,360 --> 00:57:18,440
Speaker 3: just drowning in my own tears. But anyway, if you

1029
00:57:18,440 --> 00:57:19,960
Speaker 3: want to hear us talk basketball, Miles and Jack got

1030
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Speaker 3: Mad Boosties. If you want a switch, just a break

1031
00:57:22,520 --> 00:57:25,000
Speaker 3: from the shit, and you want to hear me talk

1032
00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:28,680
Speaker 3: about shit reality television, then check me and Sofia Alexander

1033
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Speaker 3: out on four to twenty Day Fiance where we talk

1034
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Speaker 3: about ninety day fiance. Some tweets I like at Awa

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Speaker 3: Rhiannon past guests Rhiannon and hermam just tweeted, I was

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Speaker 3: in jail with some batties, free them all, Free Palestine. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I mean she was right there in the University of Texas.

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Speaker 3: So yes, I hope everything turned out okay for you.

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Speaker 3: And then another alec Herricktsana's tweet, I think just you know,

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Speaker 3: in times like this he's always just just getting to

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Speaker 3: the point I had. Equality, Alex said. One of the

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Speaker 3: primary functions of police to violently crush progressive social movements.

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Speaker 3: It's one of the reasons expanding the size of size

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Speaker 3: and power of police is always authoritarian and is never

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Speaker 3: an answer to inequality. It is a key part of

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Speaker 3: preserving inequality in all its forms.

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Speaker 2: There, it is amazing. That's a great really well expressed.

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Speaker 3: I can't beat that.

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Speaker 1: But you can find me on Twitter at Jack Underscore O'Brien.

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Speaker 1: You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're

1051
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Speaker 1: at the Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook

1052
00:58:26,240 --> 00:58:29,120
Speaker 1: fanpage on a website Daily zeigist dot com where we

1053
00:58:29,200 --> 00:58:32,280
Speaker 1: post our episode and our footnote where we link off

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Speaker 1: to the information that we talked about in today's episode,

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Speaker 1: as well as a song that we think you might enjoy. Miles,

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Speaker 1: what song do you think people might enjoy?

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Speaker 3: This is a song called cherry Pop by Jamison j MS.

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00:58:44,280 --> 00:58:47,680
Speaker 3: And you know it's known as like a producer but

1059
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Speaker 3: also kind of like does their own music worked with

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Speaker 3: like Kendrick the Game, k Trinata, Sango Taku artists like that.

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Speaker 3: But this track is just kind of like a like

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Speaker 3: a kind of haunted R and B pop song, but

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Speaker 3: it's it's just pretty cool. So check this out. Cherry

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Speaker 3: Pops by Jamison amazing. We will link off to that

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Speaker 3: in the footnotes. The dailyes guys the production of iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 1: For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast,

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Speaker 1: or wherever fine podcasts, or give it away for free.

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Speaker 3: That's gonna do it for us. This week.

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Speaker 1: We are back on Monday morning to tell you what

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Speaker 1: was trending over the weekend. There will also be a

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Speaker 1: highlight reel from this week's episode this season Best of

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Speaker 1: Season three point thirty five dropping tomorrow, and yeah, have

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Speaker 1: a safe weekend. We'll talk to you all Monday morning.

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Speaker 3: Bye.