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Speaker 1: Just to know before we get started.

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Speaker 2: The stories were sharing this season touch on different kinds

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Speaker 2: of trauma. Please take care of yourself while you listen.

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Speaker 3: I was removed during that deep systematic removal where churches

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Speaker 3: were involved social workers.

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Speaker 2: You may remember Sandy Whitehawk from earlier this season. She

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Speaker 2: was removed from her family and tribe before Congress passed

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Speaker 2: the Indian Child Welfare Act. As an adult, Sandy struggled

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Speaker 2: with addiction. On her path the sobriety, she got counseling,

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Speaker 2: and one day her counselor said something that shook her.

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Speaker 3: You've really faced all the abuse, You've done really good work,

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Speaker 3: and you're on your way to all the healing from

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Speaker 3: the violations that you had. But there's one thing you

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Speaker 3: don't know. She goes, you don't know what it means

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Speaker 3: to be a woman of color, but that's who you are.

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Speaker 3: And I was like, wow, I've never ever thought of

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Speaker 3: me to be able to say it, and that spurred

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Speaker 1: Two months later, Sandy got the chance.

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Speaker 3: My friend had to go to Colorado Springs for a training,

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Speaker 3: and she said, you want to go to Colorado springsicle

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Speaker 1: Sandy didn't have much of a plan.

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Speaker 2: Her mom had passed away, but she had the names

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Speaker 3: So we drove on to the reservation and didn't know

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Speaker 3: I went, oh, wow, you're kidding it. I said, tease,

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Speaker 3: do I look like him? And he goes, yes, you

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Speaker 3: do through the smile, and I was like, oh my god.

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Speaker 2: That man made a few phone calls. The people he

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Speaker 3: And we drove to a softball park where there was

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Speaker 3: And we get out of the car and he says,

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Speaker 2: It was the first time Sandy had seen her family

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Speaker 1: She was thirty five.

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Speaker 3: He went up to my uncle and talked to him

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Speaker 3: in La Colta first, and then turned and said, in

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Speaker 2: Sandy spent the whole afternoon at the softball game.

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Speaker 3: Those kinds of moments, you know, just take years off

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Speaker 3: your spirit. That's so heavy of my adoptive mom telling

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Speaker 3: me they didn't want you. They didn't want you at all.

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Speaker 3: That's why you're here with me. I wanted you. They

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Speaker 3: didn't want you. They threw you away. I just remember

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Speaker 3: we were visiting at one point. I just we sat

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Speaker 3: mother loved you. She was a good woman. But you

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Speaker 2: You're listening to This Land, a podcast about the present

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Speaker 2: day struggle for Native rights from Cricket Media. I'm your

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Speaker 2: host for Beccanagle Goheinda don A Laca Yetique, la Citizen

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Speaker 2: of Cherokee Nation this season, following how a string of

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Speaker 2: custody battles over Native children turned into a federal lawsuit

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Speaker 2: threatening everything from tribal sovereignty to civil rights. I've spent

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Speaker 2: four years investigating and reporting on the big federal lawsuit,

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Speaker 2: Rakkien v.

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Speaker 1: Holland.

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Speaker 2: Our team uncovered a web of special interests, people who

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Speaker 2: are attacking the Indian Child Welfare Act to prop up

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Speaker 2: the adoption industry, undermine tribal sovereignty, and build conservative power.

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Speaker 2: And you might think that's the center of the case,

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Speaker 2: but it's not. At the center are Native American families.

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Speaker 2: That's who will be most impacted by the final outcome.

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Speaker 2: So we're spending this episode with their stories. At the

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Speaker 2: heart of the Brakkeen's case are four Native American children,

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Speaker 2: a Pueblo child, an Ojibwe child, a Navajo child, and

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Speaker 2: own languages Tiwa, Ojibwe, Dene, and Jallagie. All but one

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Speaker 2: of these children is growing up in a white home,

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Speaker 2: and the future of one toddler, Yoslin, still hangs in

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Speaker 2: the balance. Since Texas courts granted the Brakkins custody of

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Speaker 1: They've taken the.

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Speaker 2: Kids to Hawaii, the beach in Florida, and even on

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Speaker 2: did not look forward to Yoslin's court ordered visit to

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Speaker 4: To say I've been dreading this since it was announced

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Speaker 4: would be an understatement. I wouldn't say it was fun

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Speaker 4: and I'm not excited about doing it again, which we

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Speaker 2: This is from Jennifer's blog, read by an actor. On

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Speaker 2: the blog, Jennifer calls Yoslin baby Cakes.

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Speaker 4: Baby Cake started her week with some biofamily and we

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Speaker 4: decided to do some hiking. It was pretty hot and

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Speaker 4: we underestimated our water needs, which is bad, bad, bad.

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Speaker 1: Lesson learned.

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Speaker 2: Y' alsen wasn't on the hike because she was with

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Speaker 2: her family as mandated by the court, but Antonio was.

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Speaker 4: He was so tough and loved climbing on everything and

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Speaker 4: the lack of water face home. He definitely fits right

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Speaker 4: in with our active crew.

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Speaker 1: Antonio was a Navajo nation where his.

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Speaker 2: Siblings, aunts, uncles, and cousins live, and instead of spending

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Speaker 2: the day with his Navajo family, the Brakenes took him hiking.

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Speaker 1: When Jennifer decided to become a foster.

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Speaker 2: Parent, she blogged about why it was a sacrifice. As

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Speaker 2: she fought for custody of Antonio and then Jocelyn, she

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Speaker 2: still wrote about it as a sacrifice.

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Speaker 4: No, we didn't really want to adopt again. We didn't

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Speaker 2: According to the blog, adopting Yaslin wasn't what Jennifer wanted

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Speaker 1: It was what God wanted her to do.

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Speaker 4: When we started fostering, it was a decision to say

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Speaker 4: yes to whatever God was asking us to do. With

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Speaker 4: God wanted us to do, so even though our selfish

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Speaker 2: The Brakkins say they're fighting EQUA because the law doesn't

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Speaker 1: Of the child, but it's hard to tell what.

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Speaker 2: Best interests the Brakkins are looking out for because they

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Speaker 2: keep contradicting themselves. Since the Brakkeens became foster parents, three

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Speaker 2: because the child was difficult. They fought to adopt their

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Speaker 2: Antonio's little sister, a child they hadn't fostered. She wasn't

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Speaker 2: her great aunt. But the Brakens wanted custody because they

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Speaker 4: We wanted her to grow up with her brother and

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Speaker 4: vice versa. We wanted them to have each other for

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Speaker 1: So what is the best interest of the child.

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Speaker 2: It can't be attachment and stability, because they've asked for

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Speaker 2: foster children to be moved, And it can't be that

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Speaker 2: children should stay with family, with people who look like

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Speaker 1: Child Welfare Act.

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Speaker 2: We're still waiting to find out whether or not the Supreme.

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Speaker 1: Court will hear the case, but there's.

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Speaker 2: Good reason to assume they will, and whatever they decide,

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Speaker 2: it will have an enormous impact. The Supreme Court can

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Speaker 2: help Native communities heal from generations of family separation, or

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Speaker 1: On one of.

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Speaker 2: Sandy's trips back to Rosebud, she was at the tribe's

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Speaker 3: So I was just sitting at the powell and I

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Speaker 3: And I teased her and said, I love waiting on

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Speaker 2: The special was a time in the pow wow used

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Speaker 2: to honor a Korean War veteran. The veteran and his

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Speaker 3: And the song that was being sung just sounded so beautiful.

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Speaker 3: And I asked Clara, I said, what is this song?

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Speaker 3: And she said, this is an old veteran song and

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Speaker 2: As each round of honor beats started, Clara explained to

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Speaker 3: And eventually she got to where she said, and now

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Speaker 3: And that's when it hit me. And I hadn't even

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Speaker 3: that I had never heard song for adoptees in a

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Speaker 2: Adoptees like Sandy were also making their way back home

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Speaker 2: Sandy had never seen that acknowledged publicly, at least not

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Speaker 2: like this. As the honor song went on, other veterans

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Speaker 3: And as I turned to get myself ready to walk

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Speaker 2: Sandy couldn't shake the powerful feeling she had that day.

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Speaker 3: So I kept thinking about that that I'd never heard

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Speaker 3: I don't know nothing.

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Speaker 2: But again, the right people were put in Sandy's path.

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Speaker 2: One morning, they sat across from each other at breakfast,

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Speaker 3: And I said, I've been around a while now, not

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Speaker 3: But then when I got to the part where I said,

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Speaker 2: Soon communities started requesting the song, and that's when Sandy's

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Speaker 2: Michelle Bender, citizen of Seminole Nation of Oklahoma, was adopted

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Speaker 6: Throughout my entire life, I struggled with I had a severe,

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Speaker 5: The day that I entered fostercare completely shut that off.

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Speaker 5: I never was able to attend another powo. I never

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Speaker 2: Sunny Redbear, citizen of the Cheyenne River Sioux tribe, was

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Speaker 7: We grew up well off, you know, so we would

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Speaker 1: Know, these woods.

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Speaker 7: I have oftentimes like thought to myself, if if I

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Speaker 1: Who like who would I be today?

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Speaker 2: More? After the break, For a long time, the main

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Speaker 2: to the lawyers bringing these cases, and a paper trail

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Speaker 2: In our reporting, we found evidence of both greed and charity.

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Speaker 2: It surprised me, but it shouldn't have because we've lived

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Speaker 2: this cycle before, where a combination of white greed and

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Speaker 2: In the attack on Indigenous rights, Native children have been

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Speaker 2: know that history, let alone have learned from it. So

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Speaker 2: why would this time be different? Years after Sandy saw

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Speaker 2: back at the same arena for the Rosebud Fair. But

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Speaker 2: this time Sandy was the one hosting the special.

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Speaker 3: And gele but had a ceremony, welcome home ceremony.

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Speaker 2: Schedule and honoring for relatives who had been adopted out

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Speaker 3: Okay, adopting adopt Sandy Sandy.

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Speaker 2: When Sandy was called into the arena, the sky was

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Speaker 1: A few thousand people.

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Speaker 2: Were packed into the arbors or spread out in lawn chairs.

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Speaker 2: The sun had slipped below the land, but the arena

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Speaker 2: children played, and Sandy made her way to the announcer stand,

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Speaker 8: Invading friends and relatives.

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Speaker 3: Art is just jumping.

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Speaker 9: And leaping in sight and trying to calm myself.

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Speaker 2: So what that makes sense?

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Speaker 8: Many people think that being in the white world has

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Speaker 8: Some had opportunity, some had some stability. But what we

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Speaker 8: didn't have is that identity, knowing who we are, knowing

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Speaker 10: Some of us had horrible experiences. So not only were

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Speaker 11: A combat of sorts and then eventually trying to make

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Speaker 11: What our ancestors prayed for us. They wanted us to

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Speaker 11: know who we are. They prayed that we would be

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Speaker 11: able to make our way back. So we're not as adoptees.

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Speaker 11: We're not looking to be pittyed.

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Speaker 10: We're not looking we're not victims.

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Speaker 9: Were your relatives who have been stolen, and we made

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Speaker 9: out here, this song is for you, this healing.

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Speaker 8: We pray we'll go into that place in your.

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Speaker 10: Heart where no words still were, no words.

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Speaker 7: To be expressed.

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Speaker 2: As relatives who had been adopted out or placed in

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Speaker 2: The crowd stood up. People got up from their bench

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Speaker 1: At the end of.

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Speaker 2: The song, the adoptees stood in the middle of the arena.

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Speaker 2: A long line formed a line of people who came

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Speaker 2: It took a while, but one by one the crowd

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Speaker 2: season two of This Land.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for listening.

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Speaker 2: We will be continuing to report on the Brakeenes case

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Speaker 2: as it goes to the Supreme Court. And I want

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Speaker 12: Y'all, y'all, hey.

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Speaker 2: This Land is reported, written and hosted by me Rebecca

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Speaker 2: nagel Goheen, citizen.

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Speaker 1: Of Cherokee Nation.

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Speaker 2: Additional reporting this season from Maddie Stone, Martha Troyan, citizen

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Speaker 2: of o b Chika, Kong Lack Suel First Nation, and

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Speaker 2: Amy Westervelt from Cricket Media. Our executive producers are Jon Favreau,

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Speaker 2: Sarah geismer Lyras Smith and Katie Long, with special thanks

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Speaker 2: to Alison Falsetta from Critical Frequency. Our managing producer is

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Speaker 2: Amy Westervelt. Our senior producer is Sarah Ventry, and our

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Speaker 2: story editor is Raca Murphy. Additional editing from Martha Troyan

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Speaker 2: and Polly Dennette Claw who is Deney. Sound design by

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Speaker 2: Lyras Smith, Mark Bush and Charlotte Landis. Original score composed

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Speaker 2: by Jared Tate, citizen of Chickisan Nation. Our outra song

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Speaker 2: is an honor song for adoptees, written and sung by

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Speaker 2: Jerry Dearly, who is Oglala Lakota.

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Speaker 1: Our fact checker is wood an Yan.

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Speaker 2: Our First Amendment Attorney is James Wheaton, founder of The

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Speaker 2: First Amendment Project podcast. Art by Kelly Gonzalez, citizen of

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Speaker 2: Cherokee Nation.

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Speaker 1: Additional reporting from.

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Speaker 2: Producer Alison Herrera who is hol On Selenin. Additional thanks

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Speaker 2: for this episode to Drew Nicholas and the crew behind

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Speaker 12: Oh hoh, cad Hey, Okay y'all, wild, blund job, play,

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Speaker 12: y'all long, come with Joey? Whoa wall? Oh? Hold go

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