Speaker 1: Hell I Suck Dating and I heard radio podcast What
Speaker 1: is going on? Sucky Daters? Welcome to an all new
Speaker 1: episode of Help I Suck at Dating. My name's Diana
Speaker 1: glairt joined out of studio by Jared have Ben. What's up, Jared?
Speaker 1: How are you? Oh? Wonderful? How are you? Oh? I'm
Speaker 1: so good? Thanks for asking. We've got a great episode
Speaker 1: for you guys. Today. We are going to have Robin
Speaker 1: Gorman Newman on the show, who's gonna talk about her
Speaker 1: new book, How to Marry a Mensch, which is just
Speaker 1: gonna be interesting. I'd love to hear more about that.
Speaker 1: One of the hot topics we have this week Wells Adams,
Speaker 1: our friend Wells, somebody you recently went golfing with. Thanks
Speaker 1: for the invite. Bra. You're like, you're in Rhode Island
Speaker 1: or something, aren't you. No, I'm in l A right now.
Speaker 1: Nice should It was great? Uh, well, it'll be a
Speaker 1: good time. I heard Wells as a golfer, so I
Speaker 1: don't want to embarrass myself. But Wells Adams was not
Speaker 1: in the news because of his golfing skills. He was
Speaker 1: in the news because he's talking about getting married to
Speaker 1: his beautiful fiancee Sarah Highland, apparently well said when asked
Speaker 1: the question would you be interested in having a wedding
Speaker 1: in Bachelor in Paradise? Wells responded and quote, no, thank you,
Speaker 1: hard pass not surprised. I wonder if that I wonder
Speaker 1: if that was more of a Wells thing or more
Speaker 1: of a Sarah thing. I think it's I think it's
Speaker 1: definitely both. But I fully believe that Wells does not
Speaker 1: want to get married in Paradise, nor do I blame him. Um, Listen,
Speaker 1: the show is awesome. I'm a full supporter of the
Speaker 1: show everything the show has given us. When Ash and
Speaker 1: I got engaged down in Paradise, Um, there was some preliminary,
Speaker 1: very small conversations about possibly getting married on the show,
Speaker 1: and they said, we, you know, would you be interested
Speaker 1: in getting married on Bachelor in Paradise? And we said no, uh,
Speaker 1: because it's such a cool opportunity to get married on
Speaker 1: the show. But at the same time, we've seen friends
Speaker 1: go through the process of planning a wedding with the show,
Speaker 1: and like, it's not just about you, It's about a
Speaker 1: TV show. So you know, there's certain cap on guests
Speaker 1: you can invite, you know, where the wedding is going
Speaker 1: to be. You know, some of the ceremonial proceedings, you
Speaker 1: know it's you know, you get some say in it,
Speaker 1: but not all. And on your wedding day, you like,
Speaker 1: it's your freaking wedding day. You wanted it to be
Speaker 1: everything you've ever wanted, So I don't. I don't. Probably
Speaker 1: probably would have saved a good amount of money, though, huh, Well,
Speaker 1: that's the nice thing is you save a lot of money.
Speaker 1: And actually, to reference Ash and I, because we went
Speaker 1: through very similar situation, we thought about the same thing.
Speaker 1: We're like, wow, we can get a free wedding. I mean,
Speaker 1: who gets the opportunity to have that. But at the
Speaker 1: end of the day, I mean we're we're forever grateful
Speaker 1: that we didn't go down that route, not because we
Speaker 1: don't love the show or wouldn't have wanted the opportunity
Speaker 1: to get married on the show, but we just wanted
Speaker 1: our wedding to be what we wanted it to be,
Speaker 1: Like Crystal and Chris's wedding down in Paradise, the season
Speaker 1: that you were on literally two days after you left
Speaker 1: Paradise first breaking up with Calin of course, going back
Speaker 1: to you know, super off her feet. Uh, you know,
Speaker 1: you just see like firsthand it was it was hard
Speaker 1: because it was their wedding, but like it was also
Speaker 1: an episode of Bachelor and Paradise where like John Paul
Speaker 1: Jones and Derek were fighting and there was always dramatic
Speaker 1: events home going on, and like they weren't the center
Speaker 1: of attention, which is really sad to not have all
Speaker 1: the attention on you on your running day because it's
Speaker 1: literally the one day everything should be about you. Well,
Speaker 1: and to make it to make matters even worse in
Speaker 1: that sense, it's like they're causing all this drama and
Speaker 1: making it about them. And Chris and Chrystal don't even
Speaker 1: really know these people, you know, like they don't know
Speaker 1: John Paul Jones. And yet John Paul Jones is the
Speaker 1: one that's creating a stir at the wedding. So it's like,
Speaker 1: at least if you have your own wedding, like you're
Speaker 1: an Ashley's wedding, if someone created a scene or a stir,
Speaker 1: at least you would be like, that's just that's just
Speaker 1: Nick being Nick, you know, that's but Laurie, you know,
Speaker 1: she's crazy. Oh, she got into the she spiked the
Speaker 1: cool aid again. That's all Laurie for you. You know,
Speaker 1: it's a funny story. My sister's wedding. Uh, there was
Speaker 1: a big who who pla because one of the guests
Speaker 1: wore white dress, which is a big no nub is.
Speaker 1: The only person is supposed to be wearing white is
Speaker 1: of course the bride. So that was what was her
Speaker 1: what was her rationale for it? So apparently her dress.
Speaker 1: She was gonna wear a blue dress or some other
Speaker 1: color dress, but it got ruined like the day before,
Speaker 1: and this is the only dress she had, and it
Speaker 1: was it was definitely white, but there was like tints
Speaker 1: of blue in it. So her argument was it was
Speaker 1: a blue dress, even though I mean it was as
Speaker 1: white as my skin right now. It's like that the
Speaker 1: office when Kelly wears white too. I think it was
Speaker 1: Phyllis's wedding or something, and she goes it was a
Speaker 1: fashion emergency. The emergency was I look really good and white,
Speaker 1: similar but different. You look good in certain colors. I
Speaker 1: look good and black, very slimming. Would you ever get
Speaker 1: married in a bachelor and paradise? You can calin, well,
Speaker 1: I don't think I'll ever get married, But I mean
Speaker 1: I don't feel sorry if you have to get remarried,
Speaker 1: right right right. I don't see why not, you know,
Speaker 1: free vacation. Uh, I mean I don't do why not.
Speaker 1: It's like I don't really put much stick into weddings anyway,
Speaker 1: so it's like, why not just have them fight down
Speaker 1: and only you know some you know, commitment for the
Speaker 1: rest of your life. It's really not that big of
Speaker 1: a deal. Well yeah, I mean, I you know, I
Speaker 1: wake up every morning and I tell Calin how committed
Speaker 1: I am to her for the rest of my life.
Speaker 1: I don't think I need a wedding to tell me
Speaker 1: that how much how I need to do that? You
Speaker 1: know what a sweet sweet man does feeling want a
Speaker 1: big wedding. Have you ever talked for about it? Uh?
Speaker 1: We we have not talked about it. I mean we
Speaker 1: haven't like not talked about it, but we uh we don't.
Speaker 1: It's not something we dwell on. I'm not dwelling on.
Speaker 1: But just like you know, I remember even when Ashley
Speaker 1: and I first got together. You know, it's like conversation
Speaker 1: since you have were like, well, if you know, would
Speaker 1: you want kids? Somebody kids? Would you want even though
Speaker 1: you're not planning like have kids with them right now.
Speaker 1: It's kind of like, just don't talk. I don't think
Speaker 1: she would want a big one. I think she'd wanted
Speaker 1: to be in small, intimate gathering. What would you want,
Speaker 1: like I said, I wouldn't want anything at all. You
Speaker 1: would never want a ceremony or anything. You wouldn't really care. No,
Speaker 1: I mean I I don't. I A. I don't like Um.
Speaker 1: It's the same reason I don't really ever like host
Speaker 1: people over at my house. I hate being like the
Speaker 1: reason that people are getting together. I hate that like
Speaker 1: people are coming somewhere from far away to like celebrate you,
Speaker 1: and like all eyes are on you, and they're like
Speaker 1: expecting you to like entertain them more or less, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. Uh, And so that just that
Speaker 1: kind of gives me anxiety. So I don't I don't
Speaker 1: really ever foresee myself wanting a wedding because of that reason.
Speaker 1: I agree with you usually on the same boat. But
Speaker 1: with our wedding, UM, there was this innate like I
Speaker 1: remember when we were uh like in the little side
Speaker 1: room for the Grunsman and just being so overwhelmed with
Speaker 1: emotion because of the exact feeling you're describing right now
Speaker 1: that literally everybody was there just for me and Ash
Speaker 1: and celebrating our love and like all the people that
Speaker 1: I love are all together and this is never gonna
Speaker 1: happen again. And so for that reason, I and I
Speaker 1: think the wedding is like the one time where you
Speaker 1: can get away with that being like, hey, I don't
Speaker 1: I like, you just got to focus on it. I
Speaker 1: know you're here for me, but you need to focus
Speaker 1: on yourself kind of thing. I don't know, I don't
Speaker 1: know how to describe it, but like that what you're
Speaker 1: exactly talking about is the reason why I don't like
Speaker 1: hosting people except for the web. My wedding day there's
Speaker 1: the only time where I was like, I'm so happy
Speaker 1: that everybody went out of their way to be here
Speaker 1: for me. Well, yeah, I mean it's I guess it's
Speaker 1: something that you probably were even stressing out about before
Speaker 1: the wedding and then at the wet like you're saying
Speaker 1: in that side room before we're going out there on
Speaker 1: stage or whatever on the altar, whatever you wanna call it. Uh,
Speaker 1: that's probably like when you're like, okay, because it's actually
Speaker 1: pretty cool, right, Oh, it was awesome. Yeah, the doors
Speaker 1: open up. You were the first one who walked down
Speaker 1: the aisle is you and Courtney, and it was just
Speaker 1: like and then like it was. It was so emotional
Speaker 1: for me because I've talked about this on the podcast before,
Speaker 1: the the combining of all my friends and family, people
Speaker 1: that don't know each other, like you and Nick have
Speaker 1: never met my friends from from home or my family,
Speaker 1: and then so like my friends from home, I've never
Speaker 1: met you guys. And then you know, with Ben and
Speaker 1: and and and and like Becca and and Tod you
Speaker 1: were there and Amanda and and it was just like
Speaker 1: this this joining of of two separate lives that Ashley
Speaker 1: and I lead, which is what I love so much.
Speaker 1: That was like the best part. But here's the difference
Speaker 1: between you and me. If we were in a movie,
Speaker 1: you would be You're like the main character or like
Speaker 1: a central character in the movie, and I'm just like
Speaker 1: a character that comes in, does something crazy and then
Speaker 1: leaves just as quickly as I came. And so you know,
Speaker 1: for for supplementary characters like myself, just it's a little
Speaker 1: it's a little different. See I disagree. I think you're
Speaker 1: just in a different movie. Like I'm a prototypical wrong, Um,
Speaker 1: like whatever, dude, you know, but where you your movie?
Speaker 1: Like I'm in an hour and a half rom com.
Speaker 1: You are in a three hour epic documentary that just
Speaker 1: goes through the story of your life. You know, I disagree,
Speaker 1: but I appreciate that I'm in Yeah, I'm in uh
Speaker 1: ten things I hate about you? You are in free Solo. Yeah.
Speaker 1: But the difference is comparing myself to Alex Honold is
Speaker 1: like comparing a raisin to a pumpkin and then comparing
Speaker 1: you to what is it, Heath Ledger that's in that
Speaker 1: movie is like comparing huh, like a to an orange? No, like,
Speaker 1: it's it's It's a much closer comparison that you have
Speaker 1: to the lead of that film than I do. That
Speaker 1: much closer to Heath Ledger. God reciscal uh he was
Speaker 1: good looking man. A lot of charm to that guy. Anyway,
Speaker 1: let's move on. We'll go to the next hot topic
Speaker 1: before we get our guests on here. Former bachelorette, Sorry,
Speaker 1: go well, before before we talk about Hannah Brown, I
Speaker 1: want to talk about this real quick. So uh, Michael,
Speaker 1: Michael B. Jordan's everyone's man crush in the world is
Speaker 1: now dating Lorie Harvey, or at least they're officially dating
Speaker 1: um and Lorie Harvey is the daughter of Steve Harvey,
Speaker 1: and Steve has gone on record to say something along
Speaker 1: the lines of I like this one, but I still
Speaker 1: got my eye on him. I mean, I like him,
Speaker 1: but like I say to all of them, I might
Speaker 1: like you, I might approve of you, but I've got
Speaker 1: some a thumb sized section of my heart filled with
Speaker 1: nothing but pure hatred for you, just in case I
Speaker 1: need it. So my question is for for you, what
Speaker 1: was it like when you met Ashley's dad for the
Speaker 1: first time? And then what was it like to kind of, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, win his approval or win him over. Well,
Speaker 1: it was interesting meeting Ashley Z because when I first
Speaker 1: met him ashe and I were just friends, and I
Speaker 1: thought his her parents were gonna freaking hate me. Thank god,
Speaker 1: they're so welcoming and sweet that that didn't happen. Because
Speaker 1: I met them immediately after our first season in Paradise,
Speaker 1: where I was just the guy rejecting their daughter, and
Speaker 1: they were so nice and so welcoming, And at this
Speaker 1: point ash and I had become friends, so I'm sure
Speaker 1: you know, behind my back, so to speaking, not in
Speaker 1: a malicious way, but they were definitely dubious of me,
Speaker 1: as they well should have been. But once we started
Speaker 1: dating to kind of fast forward, they were I think
Speaker 1: they just they always knew. I think they always felt,
Speaker 1: just like a lot of people did in our lives,
Speaker 1: that Ash and I were going to end up together.
Speaker 1: And I think they always like that. I don't know,
Speaker 1: they they just I never got the treatment of like
Speaker 1: the dad sitting me down and talking to me about
Speaker 1: you know, loyalty and you know, trying to scare the
Speaker 1: that of me before I take their daughter on a
Speaker 1: first date. I never really got that. I've never gotten
Speaker 1: out my life, have you. Um I don't think so.
Speaker 1: I don't think so. But I guess all the girls
Speaker 1: that I've did in my life, I've always had that issues.
Speaker 1: And maybe that's why. Hell, all right, well do you
Speaker 1: have a time there we go? I'm just kidding. I'm
Speaker 1: just kidding. UM So, so you don't think there's a
Speaker 1: point where like Mr Kennedy could like snap his fingers
Speaker 1: and just have a complete and utter hatred for you.
Speaker 1: Um No, I think we've grown too close, especially now
Speaker 1: you know, after every you know, after being married, into
Speaker 1: the family and spending so much time together. No, I
Speaker 1: would hope not. I mean, who the hell knows, really,
Speaker 1: I don't want to predict the future, but I hope
Speaker 1: that there's a come point where he snaps his fingers
Speaker 1: like van Els and then immediately just hates my guts um.
Speaker 1: But anytime I hear stories about this, all I can
Speaker 1: think about is bad Boys Too, when Will Smith and
Speaker 1: Morton Lawrence go to the door and just scare the
Speaker 1: crap out of that kid, and and Will Smith's like,
Speaker 1: I just got out of jail and I ain't going back.
Speaker 1: I so my dad. Yeah, I've never really encountered a
Speaker 1: dad like that, which is so disappointing. I'm curious, if
Speaker 1: you know, if I'm like, uh huh, and it's kind
Speaker 1: of disappointed. Don't you want to see that like that
Speaker 1: one time? Being like the guy that goes to the
Speaker 1: door to take the daughter out, and like the dad
Speaker 1: comes to the door to the shotgun and it's like
Speaker 1: home by ten or I'm gonna you know bury you right.
Speaker 1: I wonder if if anyone in that that produces this
Speaker 1: podcast might be that type of way, because Mark, for instance,
Speaker 1: has two daughters. If I remember correctly. Mark, do you
Speaker 1: want to chime in and maybe share your thoughts on
Speaker 1: this as a whole. I do have two daughters, and
Speaker 1: I've never subscribed to that shotgun dad kind of theory
Speaker 1: because you just want, you talk a big game until
Speaker 1: they're born, and then you just wanted to be happy.
Speaker 1: You just wanted to date a nice guy. You just
Speaker 1: want the best for them. So I'm not going to
Speaker 1: intimidate anybody. My fourteen year old has a boyfriend and
Speaker 1: he's great, and we think he's great. Now, of course,
Speaker 1: they can't see each other because of the pandemic, so
Speaker 1: it's basically a FaceTime relationship and that helps me and
Speaker 1: helps me eas into it. They start dating over FaceTime
Speaker 1: or do they know each other before. They've known each
Speaker 1: other from school, but it became a thing over firstime.
Speaker 1: It is kind of like a win win for you
Speaker 1: as a father because, uh, you know, they're not doing
Speaker 1: anything like physical right and they're like actually like building
Speaker 1: a foundation of trust. And I was just like talking
Speaker 1: to each other all the love it absolutely and also
Speaker 1: it's a little bit different for you because Mark's you know,
Speaker 1: midwestern guy married his high school sweetheart, like lives in
Speaker 1: Los Angeles has a great job, great life. Like Mark
Speaker 1: has nothing to be angry about, so he's not gonna
Speaker 1: like lash out on his daughter's boyfriends or anything like that.
Speaker 1: I love that. That's your perspective of me, Dan, and
Speaker 1: I'll take that. That's that's yeah, that's how I see you.
Speaker 1: But you know, maybe I could be wrong. In our
Speaker 1: last hot topic before we have our guests, come on,
Speaker 1: former bachelorette Hannah Brown was spotted holding hands with model
Speaker 1: Adam Woollard. I don't know why I said that Woollard
Speaker 1: in Los Angeles. This was actually confirmed by Matt James
Speaker 1: on our fellow our heart radio podcast Almost fam is
Speaker 1: hosted by the Beautiful, Wonderful The Woman I Love Ashley
Speaker 1: I Ken Eddie Who and Matt James confirmed he he's like,
Speaker 1: Oh I met Hannah's boyfriend and he's incredible. So Hannah
Speaker 1: Brown with a new leading man in her life. But
Speaker 1: it's not I mean, I guess it's official. It's just
Speaker 1: not Instagram with Thistle, so she has to like post it.
Speaker 1: Come on now. Uh. Any thoughts on Hannah Brown dating
Speaker 1: a new guy? Nope, no thoughts. Congratulations to her. That's
Speaker 1: good for good for her, yeah, I mean it's gonna
Speaker 1: be hard. It's gonna be hard for her because she
Speaker 1: was like very famously single for a while after her
Speaker 1: and Jed broke up. So I mean, I probably would
Speaker 1: imagine she's been dating. But it's good that she's finally
Speaker 1: comfortable enough with someone to start talking about him publicly.
Speaker 1: I'm curious what Tyler thinks about this, because Tyler and
Speaker 1: her have such a close, you know, public relationship. I'm
Speaker 1: curious if Tyler is still one of her closest friends,
Speaker 1: because it's always weird when you start dating guy and
Speaker 1: you have a guy best friend who you used to
Speaker 1: you know, make out with. I mean, I'm pretty sure
Speaker 1: Tyler has been linked with like six different Instagram models,
Speaker 1: so I don't think he probably cares too much. Well.
Speaker 1: The reason I asked this question is because when Ashley
Speaker 1: and I were just friends and I was going on
Speaker 1: dates with other people and she was going on dates
Speaker 1: with other people, these girls that I would go on
Speaker 1: dates with would always ask me about ash because they
Speaker 1: knew that we had this friendship. But it was kind
Speaker 1: of weird because you know, ash had confessed or feeling
Speaker 1: so many times, and but you guys are still friends,
Speaker 1: so like, what is this? So I'm curious if this
Speaker 1: guy out him? When Hannah and him first started dating,
Speaker 1: was like, so what's up with Tyler? Are you guys
Speaker 1: just friends or not? Or should I be worried? You know,
Speaker 1: Tyler was obviously a very good looking man. If I
Speaker 1: was in adam shoes, I would have been worried if
Speaker 1: they were so close. But I wish nothing but the
Speaker 1: best for Hannah and Adam. I'm very excited for Hannah. Hopefully,
Speaker 1: hopefully this is the one. So who's this Adam guy?
Speaker 1: He's a model or something? You said, Yeah, he's a model,
Speaker 1: lives in l A. I saw a picture of him
Speaker 1: only with his mask on, only saw his eyes, great eyes. Though,
Speaker 1: I feel like this is a very good looking man.
Speaker 1: Uh he has like he's like green eyes, very jealous
Speaker 1: green eyes are the best. I mean, he's a model,
Speaker 1: so I'm sure he's pretty attractive. He's pretty pretty good looking.
Speaker 1: So good for Hannah. I'm happy for Like you said,
Speaker 1: she has been famously singer for quite some time, so
Speaker 1: I'm happy that she's in a relationship and hopefully it's
Speaker 1: a healthy and happy relationship, and hopefully it goes to
Speaker 1: the distance. Yeah great, I'm glad we could contribute really
Speaker 1: nothing to that whole lot of a lot of words
Speaker 1: with nothing behind him. You know, Hey, we're just here
Speaker 1: to ask questions, not answer them. Okay, that's why we're here.
Speaker 1: That's what we do. That's why it's called help. I
Speaker 1: second dating. It holds us uh zero percent responsible for
Speaker 1: anything we say, because we're already telling you how much
Speaker 1: we suck, you know, so it's likely if we're wrong
Speaker 1: or we're being stupid. It's like, well, what did you expect?
Speaker 1: We say it right there in the title that we suck? Yeah,
Speaker 1: what did you famously say in Paradise under promise, over deliver.
Speaker 1: That's what we do here at help. I suck at dating.
Speaker 1: You know, it's funny about about that. I think I
Speaker 1: might have show this on the podcast. Uh. I went,
Speaker 1: I got lunch with my boss like a like a lot,
Speaker 1: like a year ago or something like that, and he goes, hey,
Speaker 1: I heard you say under promise over deliver. And he goes,
Speaker 1: you know, I told you that when you were interviewing
Speaker 1: for this job, and I was like, I honestly had
Speaker 1: no idea. So apparently I sold that from my former
Speaker 1: boss um, fun little facts. So, Daniel Tuto, if you're listening,
Speaker 1: thanks for the great catchphrase. Well yeah, yeah, yeah. We
Speaker 1: already take a quick break. We've got a great guest
Speaker 1: coming up, author of How to Marry a Mensch, Robin
Speaker 1: Gorman Newman, will be joining us, so stick around after
Speaker 1: the break. We're gonna have her on shortly. Well, welcome
Speaker 1: back to help I suck at dating. We have a
Speaker 1: very special guest joining us via zoom because of the
Speaker 1: pandemic uh. She is the author of how to Marry
Speaker 1: a Mention, The Love Coach Guide to Meeting Your Mate,
Speaker 1: which is now available on Amazon. She is also the
Speaker 1: founder of www dot love coach dot com. Robin Gorman Newman, Robin,
Speaker 1: thank you so much for joining us today. How are you.
Speaker 1: I'm good. It's my pleasure to be here. Thanks for
Speaker 1: having me. Of course, first I have to say I
Speaker 1: love somebody with three names. I really I there's something
Speaker 1: badass about it. Robin Gorman Newman like it just sounds cool.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna start calling myself Jared Matthew Haven. That's my
Speaker 1: middle name. It doesn't have as much gump sure as
Speaker 1: your name though. Unfortunately, so of course you are the
Speaker 1: author of How To Meet a Mention in New York
Speaker 1: and how to Marry a Mention? Um, you course been
Speaker 1: on CNN, You've been on the Today Show. So tell me,
Speaker 1: first of all, what exactly is a mention? Why should
Speaker 1: we want to marry a mention? A mention is a decent,
Speaker 1: responsible person, and it's a man or a woman. So
Speaker 1: you don't have to be a mensche to be a
Speaker 1: female mench. And why are we talking about mention is
Speaker 1: because now more than ever, the world needs all the
Speaker 1: menshas it can get. And if you're looking for a
Speaker 1: mate or a partner or whatever it is you want
Speaker 1: in your life, a mensch is the way to go
Speaker 1: because they'll treat you well. And who wouldn't want that?
Speaker 1: And you read about specifically meeting a mention in New
Speaker 1: York or how to Is that right? Well? My first
Speaker 1: book was about New York, but the second book is
Speaker 1: broad based and it includes stories of people who met
Speaker 1: their menses. Why do you think it's so hard to
Speaker 1: meet a mention in New York more so than most places?
Speaker 1: You know, it's a numbers game, and New York is
Speaker 1: so fast, just like the Internet is so fast. So
Speaker 1: there's on the web puble of the swiping, and in
Speaker 1: New York you have all the just speed walking and
Speaker 1: everything is speed driven. And I think what's important is
Speaker 1: to give people a chance because a mench might not
Speaker 1: show up as the most um you know, enticing for
Speaker 1: us and to start to begin with, not to say
Speaker 1: that a mench can't be, but some people feel like
Speaker 1: a mention is maybe not sexy or maybe doesn't ride
Speaker 1: a motorcycle, and that's not true. But you want to
Speaker 1: give a person a chance, give them time, and don't
Speaker 1: judge so quickly. And I think New Yorkers or just
Speaker 1: maybe a little quick to do that. Well, I really
Speaker 1: just faster in New York. That's the thing, exactly exactly.
Speaker 1: But let's talk about that then, because I imagine a
Speaker 1: lot of women struggle to transition from dating like the
Speaker 1: anti mench if you will to then start dating that
Speaker 1: the mench right exactly. So what kind of advice would
Speaker 1: you have for someone that that even is able to
Speaker 1: recognize the fact that they're attracted to quote unquote bad
Speaker 1: boy or bad girl Because you said menches is gender agnostics,
Speaker 1: So what advice would you have for someone that's that
Speaker 1: has maybe recognized that fault in themselves and then wants
Speaker 1: to pursue a true mench. I think if they recognize that,
Speaker 1: that's half the battle, because a lot of the time
Speaker 1: they're just not willing to admit that. And you really
Speaker 1: have to own your stuff. You want to do like
Speaker 1: a tough love look at yourself and if you've been
Speaker 1: doing the same thing like for the last ten years,
Speaker 1: and if you've never had a good relationship, then you
Speaker 1: want to step back and say, hey, you know what,
Speaker 1: I gotta do something different here, and I am willing
Speaker 1: to go the mench root. And let's frame that in
Speaker 1: a positive way. A mench is not a schlap. A
Speaker 1: mention is not a nerd. You know. Mention is not
Speaker 1: a schlemil or any other word you would attach to it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's from the Labrena Shirley. Did you see that TV
Speaker 1: that song? You know, it's like as kind of person,
Speaker 1: And that's not what a mention is. A mention is
Speaker 1: a quality person. And I think that people are more
Speaker 1: inclined to meet one when you decide you deserve it.
Speaker 1: And that's really the key. So a lot of people,
Speaker 1: I think can relate to what you're saying. Where oh,
Speaker 1: I've always dated the wrong people, but I'm attracted to
Speaker 1: the wrong people, and they recognize that they need to
Speaker 1: make a change in their life. I think the problem
Speaker 1: is a lot of people don't know how to even
Speaker 1: begin at making those changes. So do you have any
Speaker 1: advice for people that are going through similar situations where
Speaker 1: they realize they're dating the wrong people, they just don't
Speaker 1: know how to date the right people. I think you
Speaker 1: might want to start by taking a look at what
Speaker 1: your efforts are. So, for example, if you want to
Speaker 1: meet a mention, and a mention could be also defined
Speaker 1: as someone who is community minded, someone who would have
Speaker 1: your back but also possibly the back of others. So
Speaker 1: that could mean maybe exploring volunteer work, getting involved with
Speaker 1: a nonprofit organization, pursuing something with continuity, which that often
Speaker 1: happens with volunteer work because when you get to see
Speaker 1: some of the same faces more than once, you get
Speaker 1: to establish friendships that can lead to more. So I'm
Speaker 1: really a fan of not just doing things that might
Speaker 1: feel blatantly social, but things that will expand your social
Speaker 1: circle and only maybe allow you to open your eyes
Speaker 1: in a way that you haven't done before. Do you
Speaker 1: think do you think it's possible to turn schmuck into
Speaker 1: a mench, And schmuck is the word I'm going to
Speaker 1: use as the opposite of a mention from now on.
Speaker 1: So can you Can you meet a schmuck and then
Speaker 1: turn him into a mench? Do you think that's a
Speaker 1: really good question. I think you could only do that
Speaker 1: if the schmuck had the desire. Mm hmm. I I
Speaker 1: asked that too, because a lot of people so so,
Speaker 1: I've been dating my girlfriend now for almost uh two
Speaker 1: years something like that, it will be two years in June,
Speaker 1: and a lot of a lot of people when we
Speaker 1: started dating, we're saying that Kaylin is the one that
Speaker 1: turned me from a bad boy into a mench, right,
Speaker 1: and so uh I, I personally don't necessarily agree fully
Speaker 1: with that, but I agree. I think that you have
Speaker 1: to find someone that's ready to put their schmuck ways
Speaker 1: behind them and ready and and and start being a mench.
Speaker 1: Did you that's interesting that story? Did you feel that
Speaker 1: did you feel a transition? I mean, yeah, I guess so.
Speaker 1: I think, well, there's like kind of a bit of
Speaker 1: a backstory, but like I broke up with her, like
Speaker 1: after a couple of days of dating because I don't
Speaker 1: want to have a girlfriend. And then I realized the
Speaker 1: error of my ways, and I came back and asked
Speaker 1: her to be my girlfriend. And it's been more or
Speaker 1: less smooth sailing, you know, with a couple of couple
Speaker 1: of cloudy days, but for the most part it's been
Speaker 1: it's been pretty good. But transition from a schmuck to
Speaker 1: a mench, the schmuck needs to recognize there being a
Speaker 1: schmuck right well. And I think to Robin's point too,
Speaker 1: is I think that this schmuck at one point just
Speaker 1: decided I was done being a schmuck and I was
Speaker 1: ready to be a mench. And so I was like, Okay,
Speaker 1: schmuck days are behind me. Mench days are ahead of me.
Speaker 1: Let's get this going. But do you think part of
Speaker 1: it is because of not just how what she might
Speaker 1: have offered you, but what you decided you wanted with her,
Speaker 1: and you wanted to show up as a better person. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I think so. And don't get me wrong,
Speaker 1: I mean she deserves a lot of credit too, because
Speaker 1: she makes me a better person as well. Um, it's
Speaker 1: not entirely just a decision, but but yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1: It's hard to it's hard to say, really, but I've
Speaker 1: I've got a question for you. So, I believe in
Speaker 1: your books you say that most mentions are mama's boys.
Speaker 1: Is that true? Well, it depends how you define that.
Speaker 1: I mean, you could look at that initially and feel
Speaker 1: like that's a bad thing because when you say MoMA's boy,
Speaker 1: it might feel like they're attached to their mama or
Speaker 1: what have you. But my point with that is that
Speaker 1: take a look at how they treat their mother. Because
Speaker 1: someone should respect their mother. Of course, love their mother,
Speaker 1: show up for their mother, you know, within reason. Of course,
Speaker 1: live their own life as well. But if they're not
Speaker 1: being decent towards their mother, to me, that's a major
Speaker 1: red flag. I agree, Jared, What do you think as
Speaker 1: I would say, Jared's mama's boy. Yeah, I'm a self
Speaker 1: proclaimed mama's boy. I would well, I mean she Actually
Speaker 1: I was talking about this yesterday with to Ashley about
Speaker 1: how I feel like we don't appreciate our mother's enough.
Speaker 1: Because I so, I look at one of my close friends, Jade,
Speaker 1: and she has three kids. She's thirty three. All the
Speaker 1: kids are under three years old and I've seen how
Speaker 1: much love and effort this woman pours into her kids,
Speaker 1: and I was thinking about it. Her kids are never
Speaker 1: gonna remember this, Like everything she's ever done for them
Speaker 1: up to this point, they're never gonna remember. They won't
Speaker 1: appreciate because at some point when like her kids get
Speaker 1: to ten or eleven, like, the kids are gonna hate
Speaker 1: the parents because that's what they do for a little while.
Speaker 1: And so to me, I was like, man, I feel bad,
Speaker 1: like literally up until I was you know, however, old seven,
Speaker 1: I I would have died without them, and I don't
Speaker 1: even remember this. So anyway, uh, you know, for any
Speaker 1: and any schmucks out there who don't appreciate their parents,
Speaker 1: become a mensch and become a mama's boy, And as
Speaker 1: soon as you admit it, it's a better life, I
Speaker 1: promise you. So that's my theory on Mama's boy. But Jared,
Speaker 1: by that logic, you should just like say, have a baby,
Speaker 1: give it to like a foster, care for the first
Speaker 1: eight years of their life, and then take it back
Speaker 1: and then start raising it. Yeah, no difference exactly. I
Speaker 1: think I think you're you're Jade, for instance, who's raising
Speaker 1: these young children is ingraining in them that they can
Speaker 1: trust her and that she will take care of them
Speaker 1: and protect them. Whether they are going to remember it
Speaker 1: or not, I think that they're still at least mentally
Speaker 1: registering it. That's going to be stored at them forever subconsciously.
Speaker 1: I hope you're right, and I think you're ultimately right, obviously,
Speaker 1: But there is this sense of me when I when
Speaker 1: I think about my childhood and how much I did
Speaker 1: not appreciate my parents until I was older and could
Speaker 1: really understand the concept of a parent child relationship. I
Speaker 1: just wish I knew that early on, because I felt
Speaker 1: so bad. One thing, one thing I've always questioned and
Speaker 1: started to detract from the topic at hand here, But
Speaker 1: I've always I'll always like, see, uh, like parents bring
Speaker 1: like their one or two year old child to like
Speaker 1: Disneyland or like on a expensive tropical vacation, and I'm like, well, what,
Speaker 1: what like they're not gonna remember that? What do we know?
Speaker 1: Like it's not even fun for them. You know, it's loud,
Speaker 1: it's hot, it's like they're probably complaining and whining the
Speaker 1: whole time. I just that's one thing that I haven't
Speaker 1: really I can't go to dinner because you have the kids,
Speaker 1: Like it's like a twenty five minute limit before they
Speaker 1: start crying. So it's like you gotta go in, you
Speaker 1: gotta order, eat and get the hell out. Robin, what's
Speaker 1: your take on this? We would love to hear a
Speaker 1: lot of takes on this. Well, I have a seventeen
Speaker 1: year old, so I so get it. Um those vacations
Speaker 1: for ust of all those are for the parents. And
Speaker 1: I mean, let's be real, like, is it a two
Speaker 1: year old that they don't know we took my son
Speaker 1: on a cruise when he was I don't even know,
Speaker 1: you know, tennis, maybe less he remembers he went on
Speaker 1: a cruise, but he has no idea like where we went,
Speaker 1: you know, or which is kind of okay with me
Speaker 1: because I wanted to go. So it depends our affectation,
Speaker 1: you know. But I think, you know, you raise an
Speaker 1: interesting conversation around us. And I know we're talking about love,
Speaker 1: but the whole idea of a mench comes up for
Speaker 1: me as well as a parent in terms of raising one.
Speaker 1: You know, our our mention is born or bread. And
Speaker 1: I grapple with this a lot because I think it's
Speaker 1: interesting when a parent has the wherewithal to be conscious
Speaker 1: of modeling menshood, you know, for their child. But what
Speaker 1: if they don't, and then someone is raised and they're
Speaker 1: not exposed to that. Can they then segue from that?
Speaker 1: As you said earlier, you know, to become that mench
Speaker 1: and would men should be even on their radar having
Speaker 1: that come from that background. I remember a while ago,
Speaker 1: and the statistic is probably outdated and probably even wrong,
Speaker 1: but I remember reading it. It said, uh that like
Speaker 1: i Q is hereditary, which means sixty of it is
Speaker 1: what you gain throughout life experiences, et cetera. Which I
Speaker 1: imagine most characteristics that we embody and embolden are hereditary taught.
Speaker 1: And so when you say, you know, is it born
Speaker 1: or bread that I imagine that at least the majority
Speaker 1: of it has to be bred. Like if you're a
Speaker 1: really good parent and you're like a stand up citizen,
Speaker 1: model citizen, uh, your child will see that and then
Speaker 1: hopefully incorporated into their life and be a mention much
Speaker 1: earlier on than most other children would be. Right. That's
Speaker 1: kind of my take on it at least. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think so, And for me that's been really important within
Speaker 1: raising my son. He's actually volunteer firefighter and he's just seventeen,
Speaker 1: so I sort of feel like we did the mention thing,
Speaker 1: you know, and in that way that he's very community minded.
Speaker 1: So you would call your seventeen year old to mench Oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: he's a managed good job. But even mentions aren't perfect,
Speaker 1: you know. Let me nobody is no mentor schmuck is
Speaker 1: perfect or imperfect to that batter. Uh So, Robin, I
Speaker 1: just wanted to ask one more question before we let
Speaker 1: you go, And I want to ask about the current
Speaker 1: state of the world the pandemic, because this has changed
Speaker 1: I think the dating game for a lot of different ways. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, we're living in the most isolated, lonely time, uh,
Speaker 1: at least in my lifetime. So I want to ask you,
Speaker 1: as a love coach, how has love and relationships changed
Speaker 1: during the pandemic. And if somebody's single out there, what
Speaker 1: are some of the things that you think they can
Speaker 1: do to fight that loneliness if they're unable to really
Speaker 1: meet up with people in person. Yeah, well, I love
Speaker 1: that and I'd love to live your leave your listeners
Speaker 1: with the notion that this doesn't have to be wasted time.
Speaker 1: And I know you know, I've actually been working with
Speaker 1: quite a number of love coaching clients during this time.
Speaker 1: I do one on one consults and it's you know,
Speaker 1: the main thing that's come up is what can I
Speaker 1: do now? And I think it's an amazing time to
Speaker 1: connect virtually in a really quality way with people. And
Speaker 1: I've been doing all kinds of zooms, whether it's do
Speaker 1: a networking group. Um, you have this new clubhouse app
Speaker 1: that everyone's you know, hot for. People are connecting on
Speaker 1: their even connecting on Facebook and linked in Instagram in
Speaker 1: more heartfelt ways. You might have all these friends on there,
Speaker 1: but reach out to people individually and see you fail
Speaker 1: zooms if they want to do with chat. I've been
Speaker 1: finding people much more willing, much more available during this time,
Speaker 1: so I think it's a great opportunity to really avail
Speaker 1: yourself of that. Take some online classes where you're in
Speaker 1: the zoom room and you get to chat with people
Speaker 1: in there too, because that can lead to relationship building
Speaker 1: and eventually you can be when it feels safe. So
Speaker 1: I think keep the faith and really, you know, sees
Speaker 1: this moment to make new friends, even if it's virtual.
Speaker 1: Because I've had a lot of success actually, during this time,
Speaker 1: I know I've connected with people that I probably would
Speaker 1: not have ever connected with prior to the pandemic. So
Speaker 1: that's a big upside. Yeah. No, I think that's great
Speaker 1: advice and I love that. I hope listeners take it
Speaker 1: to heart because I told myself I was going to
Speaker 1: write a movie script during this time, and I've gotten
Speaker 1: about three lines done. So don't be like me in
Speaker 1: that sense, get stuff done. We have the opportunity to
Speaker 1: do it. So Robin, thank you so much for joining us.
Speaker 1: We really appreciate it. Once again, everybody listening, go check
Speaker 1: out Robin Gorman Newman's brand new book How to Marry
Speaker 1: a mention The Love Coaches Guide to Meeting Your Mate,
Speaker 1: which of course is on Amazon, and make sure check
Speaker 1: out her website, love coach dot com. Robin, once again,
Speaker 1: thank you so much for joining us. Oh my pleasure.
Speaker 1: I'm happy early Valentine's data. Everybody thank you as well.
Speaker 1: All right, we are back for everyone. Well for my
Speaker 1: favorite segment. I don't know if it's everyone's. I guess
Speaker 1: emails listener emails before we jump into them. I always
Speaker 1: love to remind you guys, email us, please your stories,
Speaker 1: your your scenarios, your hilarious jokes, even I don't know,
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Speaker 1: gonna try and power through him as quickly, well not
Speaker 1: as quickly as we can, because you know, we want
Speaker 1: to drag this out for as long as possible. But
Speaker 1: I think Mark's got places to be, He's got something.
Speaker 1: Oh Mark's gone, so you know what where it's gonna have.
Speaker 1: Let's see maybe Becky Riley or Eastern the Voice of God,
Speaker 1: Come on, baby, that's right, I am the voice of God.
Speaker 1: Thank you for recognizing um. This first one is from Melissa.
Speaker 1: How do I navigate my two year relationship with my
Speaker 1: boyfriend when I have a huge issue with this brother?
Speaker 1: With all the major events that have happened in we've
Speaker 1: definitely had a lot of major discussions in regards to race, religion,
Speaker 1: Black lives matter, Blue lives matter. His comments offend me.
Speaker 1: I've discussed this with my boyfriend and he sort of
Speaker 1: excuses it by saying, that's just the way it is.
Speaker 1: I never take anything he says seriously, but it's harder
Speaker 1: for me to sweep it under the rug. I wouldn't
Speaker 1: want to end my relationship just because I don't like
Speaker 1: one of his brothers, But how do I manage my
Speaker 1: feelings going forward? My boyfriend said he would talk to
Speaker 1: him privately in that way you don't feel uncomfortable around him.
Speaker 1: But I've told my boyfriend not to because I don't
Speaker 1: want to cause drama. So what do we tell Melissa?
Speaker 1: I think what we tell Melissa is, well, you're not
Speaker 1: dating his brother, so it's like he might have a
Speaker 1: different viewpoint of view, but it's not like that's the
Speaker 1: person that you're dating potentially gonna spend the rest of
Speaker 1: your life with. So as much of a maybe like
Speaker 1: a I don't want to say nuisance, I don't want
Speaker 1: to like belittle, uh, the differences and opinions here, But
Speaker 1: as much of any convenience or whatever it is for you,
Speaker 1: it's not like that's the person that you're choosing to date.
Speaker 1: You know, So as long as your boyfriend shares the
Speaker 1: same ideals and you're comfortable with what he believes, I
Speaker 1: think that's the most important thing. Um, what do you
Speaker 1: guys think, yeah, I I totally agree. You're not dating
Speaker 1: the boy the brother like, yeah, I just you might
Speaker 1: have to put up with it around the holidays and
Speaker 1: stuff like that, and you two just might have to,
Speaker 1: you know, put your differences aside and realize that you
Speaker 1: know your family and you're married to his brother, and
Speaker 1: you know you when you see each other, you have
Speaker 1: to be cordial and not talk politics. I mean, I
Speaker 1: I it seems like the boyfriend is doing everything he
Speaker 1: possibly can. He said, you know, he's he's trying to
Speaker 1: make Melissa comfortable, and he said that he talked to
Speaker 1: his brother. So I think that at the end of
Speaker 1: the day, Melissa, the best thing moving forward is for
Speaker 1: you to not talk politics around her brother, around his brother,
Speaker 1: And then maybe it's good for Melissa, your boyfriend to
Speaker 1: talk to his brother and just say, hey, listen, Melissa
Speaker 1: has a different viewpoint. Let's just not talk politics when
Speaker 1: we're together. I mean, the cornerstone to any successful relationship
Speaker 1: are in laws with which you fundamentally disagree. So I
Speaker 1: think you're you're in for You're in for a strong
Speaker 1: relationship there, Melissa. Don't don't worry about it. Uh, let's
Speaker 1: see one more here. This is from NICKI do you
Speaker 1: think that if you were in high school at the
Speaker 1: same time as your partner, would you guys have dated?
Speaker 1: Why or why not? Jared, I'll let you take the
Speaker 1: lead on this one. Damn, that's a great question, I think. So.
Speaker 1: I think I would have dated Ash back in high school. Um, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know if I she would
Speaker 1: have liked me post junior year, most likely senior year.
Speaker 1: I think Ash would have started liking me because that's
Speaker 1: when I started coming into my own and starting I
Speaker 1: felt like I kind of looked like a good looking
Speaker 1: high school kid back then. Senior year. Before that, I
Speaker 1: was fat, So I think she would have started liking
Speaker 1: the senior year. And I think Ash's personality she would
Speaker 1: have been the cool girl in school, so I would
Speaker 1: have been attracted to her. Uh. And I've seen pictures
Speaker 1: of Ash in high school lots of makeup, which I
Speaker 1: thought was the hottest thing when I was a teenager,
Speaker 1: So I think I would have really liked her. Good answer,
Speaker 1: Good answer. Uh. I think that Caitlin and I probably
Speaker 1: would not have dated in high school. I think when
Speaker 1: I was in high school, uh, and even in college
Speaker 1: I really like like the tomboy ish type girls like
Speaker 1: the the the athletes. Contrary to Jared, I I did not,
Speaker 1: like still don't like makeup, but especially then, and I
Speaker 1: know that Klin, uh you know, she was in pageants
Speaker 1: back then. I just don't think it would have necessarily
Speaker 1: been someone I would have gravitated towards. I also know
Speaker 1: that Klin is a bit of an introvert, and I
Speaker 1: think back then, especially I would sometimes like lean on
Speaker 1: my partner or my girlfriend to be the extrovert of
Speaker 1: the relationship, to kind of like be the center of
Speaker 1: attention at times. And uh, for those reasons, I don't
Speaker 1: think I would have necessarily pursued her in high school. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what's funny, I don't think I have a type?
Speaker 1: Do you think you have a type? I thought I did,
Speaker 1: but before I started in Klin, I would have said
Speaker 1: my type with something completely different, So I guess I
Speaker 1: don't either. What do you think? It kind of goes
Speaker 1: back to what Robin was saying, though, It's like, well,
Speaker 1: sorry to interrupt Easton, but like you know, if you
Speaker 1: if you do something so many times and it keeps
Speaker 1: failing and failing, then maybe you should switch it up
Speaker 1: and try something different. I have a type and it's
Speaker 1: gigantic asses. That's my type. And bootygether. Yeah, and that's
Speaker 1: why you're such a big CARDI beef. It's it's true.
Speaker 1: It's true, and it's it's the only reason I married
Speaker 1: my wife, the only reason, and it's worked out for you.
Speaker 1: You know. Well, I'm thinking about all my crushes in
Speaker 1: high school or my crushes since, and they are all
Speaker 1: wildly different. Some booties, some not booties is some athletes,
Speaker 1: some like very quaint type girls. I don't know. I mean,
Speaker 1: booties are great. That's a nice little checklist to have.
Speaker 1: He said, I'm gonna be completely honest with you. Out
Speaker 1: of respect for you. I've never even looked at your
Speaker 1: wife's but so, uh, you know, I'm glad that you
Speaker 1: can come on this podcast and admit that. Well. I
Speaker 1: appreciate that. I would have no problem if you did.
Speaker 1: But I also appreciate you, you know, respecting her for
Speaker 1: her personality in her mind, because that's something that I
Speaker 1: should probably do more often. It's very smart and she's
Speaker 1: very hard working. Is that why you and I are
Speaker 1: such good friends? You think because you like my big
Speaker 1: old caboose it is it is. You know, I've I've
Speaker 1: checked it out many times and you got a nice
Speaker 1: your double cheeked off you know, and I appreciate that. Well.
Speaker 1: I don't know why we're friends then, because I got
Speaker 1: a tiny one, very flat back there. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: come along a little bit. I've been doing more squats
Speaker 1: over the past year. But still, you know, it's not
Speaker 1: not anything you know right home about I see a
Speaker 1: lot of potential. Do you want what else is not
Speaker 1: to write home about the derailing of this podcast. We're
Speaker 1: about the last hundred and twenty seconds. So because of that,
Speaker 1: let's just go ahead and wrap it up. Let's we're unraveling.
Speaker 1: Let's go ahead and rewravel it back up, Wrap it up,
Speaker 1: call it a day, call it a week. Big thank
Speaker 1: you to the listeners, the big thank you tor emailers again,
Speaker 1: I second dating at iHeart media dot Com. To both
Speaker 1: Melissa and Nikki. We hope that we, uh, we're able
Speaker 1: to accurately answer your questions for you, of course, Big
Speaker 1: thank you to our guest Robin Gorman Newman. Be sure
Speaker 1: to check out her book How to Marry a Mention
Speaker 1: The Love Coaches Guide to Meeting your mate or check
Speaker 1: out her website www dot love coach dot com. Um,
Speaker 1: what else shared anything else? Before we want? Yeah, I
Speaker 1: just want to say one thing. This podcast comes out
Speaker 1: Sunday night, but we recorded before Sunday. So go Bucks,
Speaker 1: Go Baby, Let's go Tommy, Tommy, Bernnie. I will say
Speaker 1: before we leave, I do think I'm gonna place a big,
Speaker 1: big wager on the Bucks to win. I think the
Speaker 1: Bucks are gonna win, and they're underdogs. They're like a
Speaker 1: plus one thirty right now. Yeah, there are three and
Speaker 1: a half points three and I think three or three
Speaker 1: and a half point underdogs. So it's tight, but it's
Speaker 1: gonna be a good game. Brady mahomes Tom and his
Speaker 1: tense super Well, let's go. I was actually gonna ask
Speaker 1: you if you could send me like a like a
Speaker 1: Bucks jersey, your shirt to wear. Um, but I've got
Speaker 1: to be asking too much. No, no, no no, no, I
Speaker 1: actually I have one that you can wear, no, no joke.
Speaker 1: I might come pick it up tomorrow that if that's okay. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we'll be around. I haven't seen you any year, so
Speaker 1: you should definitely stop. We'll we'll keep socially distant, of course,
Speaker 1: but but yeah, that'll do it. Go Bucks, Go. What
Speaker 1: was the shirt that you got today? Something about like mud?
Speaker 1: You got like a shirt you unwrapped it on your
Speaker 1: Instagram story. Oh there were Tampa shirts. There's two of them.
Speaker 1: One was yes we canon fire the Cannons uh and
Speaker 1: then the other one was bucks don't stop. That might
Speaker 1: be the shirt you're wearing right there, Bucks, Bucks don't stop.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm thinking of. All right, we'll go Bucks.
Speaker 1: If the Chiefs win, that's back to back either way.
Speaker 1: It's a historic super Bowl, which is gonna be a
Speaker 1: fun one to watch. I hope you guys are enjoying
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl weekend. Hopefully do it responsibly and be
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