WEBVTT - Mensches & Schmucks 0:00:00.480 --> 0:00:10.200 Hell I Suck Dating and I heard radio podcast What 0:00:10.360 --> 0:00:12.840 is going on? Sucky Daters? Welcome to an all new 0:00:12.880 --> 0:00:17.119 episode of Help I Suck at Dating. My name's Diana 0:00:17.200 --> 0:00:21.799 glairt joined out of studio by Jared have Ben. What's up, Jared? 0:00:21.800 --> 0:00:26.680 How are you? Oh? Wonderful? How are you? Oh? I'm 0:00:26.760 --> 0:00:29.240 so good? Thanks for asking. We've got a great episode 0:00:29.240 --> 0:00:33.360 for you guys. Today. We are going to have Robin 0:00:33.400 --> 0:00:36.840 Gorman Newman on the show, who's gonna talk about her 0:00:37.240 --> 0:00:41.239 new book, How to Marry a Mensch, which is just 0:00:41.240 --> 0:00:44.120 gonna be interesting. I'd love to hear more about that. 0:00:44.360 --> 0:00:46.639 One of the hot topics we have this week Wells Adams, 0:00:46.640 --> 0:00:49.640 our friend Wells, somebody you recently went golfing with. Thanks 0:00:49.640 --> 0:00:53.280 for the invite. Bra. You're like, you're in Rhode Island 0:00:53.400 --> 0:00:55.360 or something, aren't you. No, I'm in l A right now. 0:00:55.560 --> 0:00:58.840 Nice should It was great? Uh, well, it'll be a 0:00:58.840 --> 0:01:00.480 good time. I heard Wells as a golfer, so I 0:01:00.480 --> 0:01:02.560 don't want to embarrass myself. But Wells Adams was not 0:01:02.600 --> 0:01:04.440 in the news because of his golfing skills. He was 0:01:04.440 --> 0:01:06.959 in the news because he's talking about getting married to 0:01:07.000 --> 0:01:11.839 his beautiful fiancee Sarah Highland, apparently well said when asked 0:01:11.880 --> 0:01:14.600 the question would you be interested in having a wedding 0:01:14.680 --> 0:01:19.200 in Bachelor in Paradise? Wells responded and quote, no, thank you, 0:01:19.600 --> 0:01:23.199 hard pass not surprised. I wonder if that I wonder 0:01:23.200 --> 0:01:24.560 if that was more of a Wells thing or more 0:01:24.560 --> 0:01:27.040 of a Sarah thing. I think it's I think it's 0:01:27.080 --> 0:01:31.360 definitely both. But I fully believe that Wells does not 0:01:31.360 --> 0:01:35.440 want to get married in Paradise, nor do I blame him. Um, Listen, 0:01:35.440 --> 0:01:37.920 the show is awesome. I'm a full supporter of the 0:01:37.920 --> 0:01:41.800 show everything the show has given us. When Ash and 0:01:41.880 --> 0:01:47.440 I got engaged down in Paradise, Um, there was some preliminary, 0:01:47.760 --> 0:01:51.600 very small conversations about possibly getting married on the show, 0:01:52.400 --> 0:01:55.880 and they said, we, you know, would you be interested 0:01:55.880 --> 0:02:00.000 in getting married on Bachelor in Paradise? And we said no, uh, 0:02:00.160 --> 0:02:04.200 because it's such a cool opportunity to get married on 0:02:04.240 --> 0:02:07.080 the show. But at the same time, we've seen friends 0:02:07.120 --> 0:02:09.640 go through the process of planning a wedding with the show, 0:02:09.680 --> 0:02:13.200 and like, it's not just about you, It's about a 0:02:13.200 --> 0:02:15.840 TV show. So you know, there's certain cap on guests 0:02:15.919 --> 0:02:18.760 you can invite, you know, where the wedding is going 0:02:18.800 --> 0:02:23.360 to be. You know, some of the ceremonial proceedings, you 0:02:23.400 --> 0:02:26.160 know it's you know, you get some say in it, 0:02:26.200 --> 0:02:28.440 but not all. And on your wedding day, you like, 0:02:28.520 --> 0:02:30.320 it's your freaking wedding day. You wanted it to be 0:02:30.400 --> 0:02:32.720 everything you've ever wanted, So I don't. I don't. Probably 0:02:33.480 --> 0:02:36.320 probably would have saved a good amount of money, though, huh, Well, 0:02:36.320 --> 0:02:39.239 that's the nice thing is you save a lot of money. 0:02:39.320 --> 0:02:42.000 And actually, to reference Ash and I, because we went 0:02:42.000 --> 0:02:44.840 through very similar situation, we thought about the same thing. 0:02:45.040 --> 0:02:48.200 We're like, wow, we can get a free wedding. I mean, 0:02:48.400 --> 0:02:51.040 who gets the opportunity to have that. But at the 0:02:51.120 --> 0:02:54.840 end of the day, I mean we're we're forever grateful 0:02:54.840 --> 0:02:56.720 that we didn't go down that route, not because we 0:02:56.760 --> 0:02:59.639 don't love the show or wouldn't have wanted the opportunity 0:02:59.639 --> 0:03:01.120 to get married on the show, but we just wanted 0:03:01.120 --> 0:03:03.160 our wedding to be what we wanted it to be, 0:03:03.240 --> 0:03:07.080 Like Crystal and Chris's wedding down in Paradise, the season 0:03:07.080 --> 0:03:09.960 that you were on literally two days after you left 0:03:10.560 --> 0:03:13.960 Paradise first breaking up with Calin of course, going back 0:03:14.440 --> 0:03:17.160 to you know, super off her feet. Uh, you know, 0:03:17.200 --> 0:03:19.840 you just see like firsthand it was it was hard 0:03:19.880 --> 0:03:22.280 because it was their wedding, but like it was also 0:03:22.280 --> 0:03:24.400 an episode of Bachelor and Paradise where like John Paul 0:03:24.440 --> 0:03:26.920 Jones and Derek were fighting and there was always dramatic 0:03:27.240 --> 0:03:30.200 events home going on, and like they weren't the center 0:03:30.200 --> 0:03:32.840 of attention, which is really sad to not have all 0:03:32.880 --> 0:03:34.920 the attention on you on your running day because it's 0:03:35.000 --> 0:03:38.480 literally the one day everything should be about you. Well, 0:03:38.520 --> 0:03:40.680 and to make it to make matters even worse in 0:03:40.680 --> 0:03:43.800 that sense, it's like they're causing all this drama and 0:03:43.840 --> 0:03:46.280 making it about them. And Chris and Chrystal don't even 0:03:46.280 --> 0:03:48.320 really know these people, you know, like they don't know 0:03:48.440 --> 0:03:50.920 John Paul Jones. And yet John Paul Jones is the 0:03:50.960 --> 0:03:52.800 one that's creating a stir at the wedding. So it's like, 0:03:53.440 --> 0:03:55.160 at least if you have your own wedding, like you're 0:03:55.200 --> 0:03:58.160 an Ashley's wedding, if someone created a scene or a stir, 0:03:58.880 --> 0:04:01.560 at least you would be like, that's just that's just 0:04:01.680 --> 0:04:05.480 Nick being Nick, you know, that's but Laurie, you know, 0:04:05.720 --> 0:04:09.680 she's crazy. Oh, she got into the she spiked the 0:04:09.680 --> 0:04:12.080 cool aid again. That's all Laurie for you. You know, 0:04:12.120 --> 0:04:15.320 it's a funny story. My sister's wedding. Uh, there was 0:04:15.400 --> 0:04:19.919 a big who who pla because one of the guests 0:04:20.040 --> 0:04:22.680 wore white dress, which is a big no nub is. 0:04:22.680 --> 0:04:24.520 The only person is supposed to be wearing white is 0:04:24.520 --> 0:04:26.920 of course the bride. So that was what was her 0:04:27.240 --> 0:04:29.880 what was her rationale for it? So apparently her dress. 0:04:30.240 --> 0:04:32.280 She was gonna wear a blue dress or some other 0:04:32.320 --> 0:04:34.880 color dress, but it got ruined like the day before, 0:04:34.920 --> 0:04:37.400 and this is the only dress she had, and it 0:04:37.440 --> 0:04:40.320 was it was definitely white, but there was like tints 0:04:40.320 --> 0:04:42.360 of blue in it. So her argument was it was 0:04:42.400 --> 0:04:44.760 a blue dress, even though I mean it was as 0:04:44.760 --> 0:04:48.039 white as my skin right now. It's like that the 0:04:48.080 --> 0:04:50.479 office when Kelly wears white too. I think it was 0:04:51.240 --> 0:04:53.640 Phyllis's wedding or something, and she goes it was a 0:04:53.640 --> 0:04:56.960 fashion emergency. The emergency was I look really good and white, 0:04:58.800 --> 0:05:01.000 similar but different. You look good in certain colors. I 0:05:01.040 --> 0:05:03.800 look good and black, very slimming. Would you ever get 0:05:03.839 --> 0:05:07.440 married in a bachelor and paradise? You can calin, well, 0:05:08.240 --> 0:05:11.440 I don't think I'll ever get married, But I mean 0:05:11.480 --> 0:05:14.160 I don't feel sorry if you have to get remarried, 0:05:14.960 --> 0:05:16.880 right right right. I don't see why not, you know, 0:05:16.960 --> 0:05:21.720 free vacation. Uh, I mean I don't do why not. 0:05:22.200 --> 0:05:24.320 It's like I don't really put much stick into weddings anyway, 0:05:24.360 --> 0:05:26.920 so it's like, why not just have them fight down 0:05:27.000 --> 0:05:29.960 and only you know some you know, commitment for the 0:05:29.960 --> 0:05:31.919 rest of your life. It's really not that big of 0:05:31.960 --> 0:05:34.359 a deal. Well yeah, I mean, I you know, I 0:05:34.400 --> 0:05:36.640 wake up every morning and I tell Calin how committed 0:05:36.640 --> 0:05:37.840 I am to her for the rest of my life. 0:05:37.839 --> 0:05:39.560 I don't think I need a wedding to tell me 0:05:39.600 --> 0:05:41.200 that how much how I need to do that? You 0:05:41.200 --> 0:05:44.159 know what a sweet sweet man does feeling want a 0:05:44.160 --> 0:05:47.039 big wedding. Have you ever talked for about it? Uh? 0:05:47.240 --> 0:05:49.839 We we have not talked about it. I mean we 0:05:49.839 --> 0:05:52.400 haven't like not talked about it, but we uh we don't. 0:05:52.400 --> 0:05:55.160 It's not something we dwell on. I'm not dwelling on. 0:05:55.240 --> 0:05:58.040 But just like you know, I remember even when Ashley 0:05:58.080 --> 0:06:00.000 and I first got together. You know, it's like conversation 0:06:00.000 --> 0:06:01.960 since you have were like, well, if you know, would 0:06:02.000 --> 0:06:03.840 you want kids? Somebody kids? Would you want even though 0:06:03.839 --> 0:06:06.080 you're not planning like have kids with them right now. 0:06:06.520 --> 0:06:08.800 It's kind of like, just don't talk. I don't think 0:06:08.800 --> 0:06:10.160 she would want a big one. I think she'd wanted 0:06:10.320 --> 0:06:13.720 to be in small, intimate gathering. What would you want, 0:06:15.360 --> 0:06:18.280 like I said, I wouldn't want anything at all. You 0:06:18.320 --> 0:06:21.400 would never want a ceremony or anything. You wouldn't really care. No, 0:06:21.640 --> 0:06:25.560 I mean I I don't. I A. I don't like Um. 0:06:25.640 --> 0:06:27.359 It's the same reason I don't really ever like host 0:06:27.440 --> 0:06:29.560 people over at my house. I hate being like the 0:06:29.640 --> 0:06:32.440 reason that people are getting together. I hate that like 0:06:32.520 --> 0:06:36.960 people are coming somewhere from far away to like celebrate you, 0:06:37.120 --> 0:06:39.040 and like all eyes are on you, and they're like 0:06:39.080 --> 0:06:42.440 expecting you to like entertain them more or less, you 0:06:42.440 --> 0:06:44.520 know what I mean. Uh, And so that just that 0:06:44.560 --> 0:06:45.960 kind of gives me anxiety. So I don't I don't 0:06:46.000 --> 0:06:49.960 really ever foresee myself wanting a wedding because of that reason. 0:06:50.440 --> 0:06:53.640 I agree with you usually on the same boat. But 0:06:54.279 --> 0:07:00.479 with our wedding, UM, there was this innate like I 0:07:00.520 --> 0:07:04.159 remember when we were uh like in the little side 0:07:04.240 --> 0:07:08.440 room for the Grunsman and just being so overwhelmed with 0:07:08.600 --> 0:07:13.320 emotion because of the exact feeling you're describing right now 0:07:13.680 --> 0:07:17.080 that literally everybody was there just for me and Ash 0:07:17.160 --> 0:07:21.040 and celebrating our love and like all the people that 0:07:21.160 --> 0:07:24.400 I love are all together and this is never gonna 0:07:24.440 --> 0:07:30.720 happen again. And so for that reason, I and I 0:07:30.720 --> 0:07:32.840 think the wedding is like the one time where you 0:07:32.880 --> 0:07:35.160 can get away with that being like, hey, I don't 0:07:35.960 --> 0:07:38.200 I like, you just got to focus on it. I 0:07:38.200 --> 0:07:39.640 know you're here for me, but you need to focus 0:07:39.640 --> 0:07:41.000 on yourself kind of thing. I don't know, I don't 0:07:41.000 --> 0:07:42.840 know how to describe it, but like that what you're 0:07:42.840 --> 0:07:44.800 exactly talking about is the reason why I don't like 0:07:44.840 --> 0:07:47.360 hosting people except for the web. My wedding day there's 0:07:47.400 --> 0:07:49.600 the only time where I was like, I'm so happy 0:07:49.640 --> 0:07:51.800 that everybody went out of their way to be here 0:07:52.760 --> 0:07:55.920 for me. Well, yeah, I mean it's I guess it's 0:07:55.960 --> 0:07:58.640 something that you probably were even stressing out about before 0:07:58.680 --> 0:08:00.600 the wedding and then at the wet like you're saying 0:08:00.600 --> 0:08:03.000 in that side room before we're going out there on 0:08:03.120 --> 0:08:06.800 stage or whatever on the altar, whatever you wanna call it. Uh, 0:08:07.000 --> 0:08:08.760 that's probably like when you're like, okay, because it's actually 0:08:08.760 --> 0:08:11.000 pretty cool, right, Oh, it was awesome. Yeah, the doors 0:08:11.040 --> 0:08:12.360 open up. You were the first one who walked down 0:08:12.360 --> 0:08:14.640 the aisle is you and Courtney, and it was just 0:08:14.680 --> 0:08:17.440 like and then like it was. It was so emotional 0:08:17.480 --> 0:08:19.600 for me because I've talked about this on the podcast before, 0:08:19.720 --> 0:08:23.760 the the combining of all my friends and family, people 0:08:23.760 --> 0:08:25.960 that don't know each other, like you and Nick have 0:08:26.080 --> 0:08:28.760 never met my friends from from home or my family, 0:08:28.840 --> 0:08:30.520 and then so like my friends from home, I've never 0:08:30.560 --> 0:08:33.640 met you guys. And then you know, with Ben and 0:08:33.640 --> 0:08:36.400 and and and and like Becca and and Tod you 0:08:36.440 --> 0:08:38.960 were there and Amanda and and it was just like 0:08:39.000 --> 0:08:42.600 this this joining of of two separate lives that Ashley 0:08:42.640 --> 0:08:45.000 and I lead, which is what I love so much. 0:08:45.120 --> 0:08:47.280 That was like the best part. But here's the difference 0:08:47.280 --> 0:08:49.560 between you and me. If we were in a movie, 0:08:50.600 --> 0:08:52.800 you would be You're like the main character or like 0:08:52.840 --> 0:08:54.720 a central character in the movie, and I'm just like 0:08:54.760 --> 0:08:57.640 a character that comes in, does something crazy and then 0:08:57.720 --> 0:09:00.280 leaves just as quickly as I came. And so you know, 0:09:00.320 --> 0:09:03.400 for for supplementary characters like myself, just it's a little 0:09:03.440 --> 0:09:05.920 it's a little different. See I disagree. I think you're 0:09:05.960 --> 0:09:11.160 just in a different movie. Like I'm a prototypical wrong, Um, 0:09:11.400 --> 0:09:15.720 like whatever, dude, you know, but where you your movie? 0:09:15.800 --> 0:09:18.160 Like I'm in an hour and a half rom com. 0:09:18.280 --> 0:09:21.920 You are in a three hour epic documentary that just 0:09:22.240 --> 0:09:27.120 goes through the story of your life. You know, I disagree, 0:09:27.160 --> 0:09:30.560 but I appreciate that I'm in Yeah, I'm in uh 0:09:31.320 --> 0:09:37.080 ten things I hate about you? You are in free Solo. Yeah. 0:09:37.120 --> 0:09:40.120 But the difference is comparing myself to Alex Honold is 0:09:40.200 --> 0:09:43.560 like comparing a raisin to a pumpkin and then comparing 0:09:43.640 --> 0:09:45.560 you to what is it, Heath Ledger that's in that 0:09:45.600 --> 0:09:52.560 movie is like comparing huh, like a to an orange? No, like, 0:09:52.600 --> 0:09:54.720 it's it's It's a much closer comparison that you have 0:09:54.840 --> 0:09:57.240 to the lead of that film than I do. That 0:09:57.320 --> 0:10:00.960 much closer to Heath Ledger. God reciscal uh he was 0:10:01.760 --> 0:10:04.200 good looking man. A lot of charm to that guy. Anyway, 0:10:04.280 --> 0:10:06.040 let's move on. We'll go to the next hot topic 0:10:06.679 --> 0:10:10.359 before we get our guests on here. Former bachelorette, Sorry, 0:10:10.040 --> 0:10:11.839 go well, before before we talk about Hannah Brown, I 0:10:11.840 --> 0:10:14.120 want to talk about this real quick. So uh, Michael, 0:10:14.120 --> 0:10:17.200 Michael B. Jordan's everyone's man crush in the world is 0:10:17.280 --> 0:10:20.160 now dating Lorie Harvey, or at least they're officially dating 0:10:20.720 --> 0:10:23.080 um and Lorie Harvey is the daughter of Steve Harvey, 0:10:23.120 --> 0:10:26.280 and Steve has gone on record to say something along 0:10:26.320 --> 0:10:27.960 the lines of I like this one, but I still 0:10:28.000 --> 0:10:29.839 got my eye on him. I mean, I like him, 0:10:29.880 --> 0:10:32.040 but like I say to all of them, I might 0:10:32.080 --> 0:10:34.280 like you, I might approve of you, but I've got 0:10:34.320 --> 0:10:36.880 some a thumb sized section of my heart filled with 0:10:36.960 --> 0:10:39.480 nothing but pure hatred for you, just in case I 0:10:39.520 --> 0:10:43.360 need it. So my question is for for you, what 0:10:43.400 --> 0:10:45.480 was it like when you met Ashley's dad for the 0:10:45.520 --> 0:10:48.319 first time? And then what was it like to kind of, uh, 0:10:48.440 --> 0:10:51.480 you know, win his approval or win him over. Well, 0:10:51.520 --> 0:10:53.840 it was interesting meeting Ashley Z because when I first 0:10:53.880 --> 0:10:56.480 met him ashe and I were just friends, and I 0:10:56.520 --> 0:11:01.480 thought his her parents were gonna freaking hate me. Thank god, 0:11:01.520 --> 0:11:05.160 they're so welcoming and sweet that that didn't happen. Because 0:11:05.480 --> 0:11:07.800 I met them immediately after our first season in Paradise, 0:11:07.800 --> 0:11:11.360 where I was just the guy rejecting their daughter, and 0:11:11.440 --> 0:11:14.840 they were so nice and so welcoming, And at this 0:11:14.880 --> 0:11:18.120 point ash and I had become friends, so I'm sure 0:11:19.040 --> 0:11:21.120 you know, behind my back, so to speaking, not in 0:11:21.160 --> 0:11:23.719 a malicious way, but they were definitely dubious of me, 0:11:23.800 --> 0:11:27.120 as they well should have been. But once we started 0:11:27.200 --> 0:11:31.080 dating to kind of fast forward, they were I think 0:11:31.120 --> 0:11:35.000 they just they always knew. I think they always felt, 0:11:35.040 --> 0:11:36.840 just like a lot of people did in our lives, 0:11:36.840 --> 0:11:38.400 that Ash and I were going to end up together. 0:11:39.200 --> 0:11:42.680 And I think they always like that. I don't know, 0:11:42.840 --> 0:11:46.600 they they just I never got the treatment of like 0:11:46.720 --> 0:11:50.280 the dad sitting me down and talking to me about 0:11:51.040 --> 0:11:54.040 you know, loyalty and you know, trying to scare the 0:11:54.240 --> 0:11:55.839 that of me before I take their daughter on a 0:11:55.920 --> 0:11:57.840 first date. I never really got that. I've never gotten 0:11:57.840 --> 0:12:02.200 out my life, have you. Um I don't think so. 0:12:03.880 --> 0:12:06.319 I don't think so. But I guess all the girls 0:12:06.320 --> 0:12:08.120 that I've did in my life, I've always had that issues. 0:12:08.120 --> 0:12:10.640 And maybe that's why. Hell, all right, well do you 0:12:10.640 --> 0:12:13.120 have a time there we go? I'm just kidding. I'm 0:12:13.120 --> 0:12:15.800 just kidding. UM So, so you don't think there's a 0:12:15.800 --> 0:12:18.640 point where like Mr Kennedy could like snap his fingers 0:12:18.679 --> 0:12:21.800 and just have a complete and utter hatred for you. 0:12:22.880 --> 0:12:26.040 Um No, I think we've grown too close, especially now 0:12:26.760 --> 0:12:30.160 you know, after every you know, after being married, into 0:12:30.240 --> 0:12:32.560 the family and spending so much time together. No, I 0:12:32.559 --> 0:12:34.920 would hope not. I mean, who the hell knows, really, 0:12:34.920 --> 0:12:36.840 I don't want to predict the future, but I hope 0:12:36.840 --> 0:12:38.679 that there's a come point where he snaps his fingers 0:12:38.720 --> 0:12:42.200 like van Els and then immediately just hates my guts um. 0:12:42.240 --> 0:12:44.160 But anytime I hear stories about this, all I can 0:12:44.200 --> 0:12:45.960 think about is bad Boys Too, when Will Smith and 0:12:45.960 --> 0:12:48.199 Morton Lawrence go to the door and just scare the 0:12:48.240 --> 0:12:50.520 crap out of that kid, and and Will Smith's like, 0:12:50.600 --> 0:12:52.720 I just got out of jail and I ain't going back. 0:12:54.280 --> 0:12:57.480 I so my dad. Yeah, I've never really encountered a 0:12:57.559 --> 0:12:59.640 dad like that, which is so disappointing. I'm curious, if 0:13:00.040 --> 0:13:02.960 you know, if I'm like, uh huh, and it's kind 0:13:02.960 --> 0:13:04.680 of disappointed. Don't you want to see that like that 0:13:04.760 --> 0:13:06.640 one time? Being like the guy that goes to the 0:13:06.640 --> 0:13:08.440 door to take the daughter out, and like the dad 0:13:08.480 --> 0:13:10.480 comes to the door to the shotgun and it's like 0:13:10.800 --> 0:13:14.280 home by ten or I'm gonna you know bury you right. 0:13:14.400 --> 0:13:17.000 I wonder if if anyone in that that produces this 0:13:17.040 --> 0:13:19.880 podcast might be that type of way, because Mark, for instance, 0:13:19.920 --> 0:13:22.679 has two daughters. If I remember correctly. Mark, do you 0:13:22.720 --> 0:13:25.120 want to chime in and maybe share your thoughts on 0:13:26.280 --> 0:13:28.840 this as a whole. I do have two daughters, and 0:13:28.880 --> 0:13:32.320 I've never subscribed to that shotgun dad kind of theory 0:13:32.640 --> 0:13:35.760 because you just want, you talk a big game until 0:13:35.760 --> 0:13:38.280 they're born, and then you just wanted to be happy. 0:13:38.440 --> 0:13:40.920 You just wanted to date a nice guy. You just 0:13:40.960 --> 0:13:43.439 want the best for them. So I'm not going to 0:13:43.520 --> 0:13:46.520 intimidate anybody. My fourteen year old has a boyfriend and 0:13:46.559 --> 0:13:48.839 he's great, and we think he's great. Now, of course, 0:13:48.920 --> 0:13:51.960 they can't see each other because of the pandemic, so 0:13:52.000 --> 0:13:54.599 it's basically a FaceTime relationship and that helps me and 0:13:54.679 --> 0:13:58.680 helps me eas into it. They start dating over FaceTime 0:13:58.760 --> 0:14:00.360 or do they know each other before. They've known each 0:14:00.400 --> 0:14:03.760 other from school, but it became a thing over firstime. 0:14:04.360 --> 0:14:05.840 It is kind of like a win win for you 0:14:05.920 --> 0:14:08.360 as a father because, uh, you know, they're not doing 0:14:08.400 --> 0:14:11.120 anything like physical right and they're like actually like building 0:14:11.120 --> 0:14:15.120 a foundation of trust. And I was just like talking 0:14:15.160 --> 0:14:18.360 to each other all the love it absolutely and also 0:14:18.400 --> 0:14:20.560 it's a little bit different for you because Mark's you know, 0:14:20.680 --> 0:14:24.520 midwestern guy married his high school sweetheart, like lives in 0:14:24.560 --> 0:14:27.800 Los Angeles has a great job, great life. Like Mark 0:14:27.880 --> 0:14:29.880 has nothing to be angry about, so he's not gonna 0:14:29.920 --> 0:14:32.560 like lash out on his daughter's boyfriends or anything like that. 0:14:32.840 --> 0:14:34.880 I love that. That's your perspective of me, Dan, and 0:14:34.880 --> 0:14:39.040 I'll take that. That's that's yeah, that's how I see you. 0:14:39.120 --> 0:14:41.040 But you know, maybe I could be wrong. In our 0:14:41.120 --> 0:14:43.640 last hot topic before we have our guests, come on, 0:14:43.760 --> 0:14:49.160 former bachelorette Hannah Brown was spotted holding hands with model 0:14:49.320 --> 0:14:52.960 Adam Woollard. I don't know why I said that Woollard 0:14:53.360 --> 0:14:56.880 in Los Angeles. This was actually confirmed by Matt James 0:14:57.000 --> 0:15:00.200 on our fellow our heart radio podcast Almost fam is 0:15:00.200 --> 0:15:04.440 hosted by the Beautiful, Wonderful The Woman I Love Ashley 0:15:04.480 --> 0:15:08.240 I Ken Eddie Who and Matt James confirmed he he's like, 0:15:08.240 --> 0:15:12.360 Oh I met Hannah's boyfriend and he's incredible. So Hannah 0:15:12.360 --> 0:15:16.160 Brown with a new leading man in her life. But 0:15:16.200 --> 0:15:17.880 it's not I mean, I guess it's official. It's just 0:15:17.920 --> 0:15:19.720 not Instagram with Thistle, so she has to like post it. 0:15:19.760 --> 0:15:22.680 Come on now. Uh. Any thoughts on Hannah Brown dating 0:15:22.720 --> 0:15:26.800 a new guy? Nope, no thoughts. Congratulations to her. That's 0:15:26.840 --> 0:15:29.160 good for good for her, yeah, I mean it's gonna 0:15:29.160 --> 0:15:30.520 be hard. It's gonna be hard for her because she 0:15:30.600 --> 0:15:32.520 was like very famously single for a while after her 0:15:32.560 --> 0:15:36.120 and Jed broke up. So I mean, I probably would 0:15:36.120 --> 0:15:38.640 imagine she's been dating. But it's good that she's finally 0:15:38.640 --> 0:15:42.480 comfortable enough with someone to start talking about him publicly. 0:15:42.920 --> 0:15:45.560 I'm curious what Tyler thinks about this, because Tyler and 0:15:45.640 --> 0:15:51.560 her have such a close, you know, public relationship. I'm 0:15:51.600 --> 0:15:57.320 curious if Tyler is still one of her closest friends, 0:15:57.720 --> 0:16:01.160 because it's always weird when you start dating guy and 0:16:01.240 --> 0:16:04.240 you have a guy best friend who you used to 0:16:05.040 --> 0:16:07.640 you know, make out with. I mean, I'm pretty sure 0:16:07.680 --> 0:16:10.640 Tyler has been linked with like six different Instagram models, 0:16:10.680 --> 0:16:13.120 so I don't think he probably cares too much. Well. 0:16:13.160 --> 0:16:16.480 The reason I asked this question is because when Ashley 0:16:16.480 --> 0:16:17.920 and I were just friends and I was going on 0:16:18.000 --> 0:16:19.640 dates with other people and she was going on dates 0:16:19.640 --> 0:16:22.000 with other people, these girls that I would go on 0:16:22.120 --> 0:16:24.760 dates with would always ask me about ash because they 0:16:24.840 --> 0:16:28.080 knew that we had this friendship. But it was kind 0:16:28.080 --> 0:16:31.400 of weird because you know, ash had confessed or feeling 0:16:31.480 --> 0:16:34.080 so many times, and but you guys are still friends, 0:16:34.120 --> 0:16:36.240 so like, what is this? So I'm curious if this 0:16:36.280 --> 0:16:38.640 guy out him? When Hannah and him first started dating, 0:16:38.720 --> 0:16:41.160 was like, so what's up with Tyler? Are you guys 0:16:41.760 --> 0:16:46.320 just friends or not? Or should I be worried? You know, 0:16:46.400 --> 0:16:48.440 Tyler was obviously a very good looking man. If I 0:16:48.800 --> 0:16:50.320 was in adam shoes, I would have been worried if 0:16:50.360 --> 0:16:52.560 they were so close. But I wish nothing but the 0:16:52.560 --> 0:16:55.880 best for Hannah and Adam. I'm very excited for Hannah. Hopefully, 0:16:56.160 --> 0:16:59.440 hopefully this is the one. So who's this Adam guy? 0:16:59.480 --> 0:17:01.680 He's a model or something? You said, Yeah, he's a model, 0:17:01.800 --> 0:17:03.560 lives in l A. I saw a picture of him 0:17:04.160 --> 0:17:07.760 only with his mask on, only saw his eyes, great eyes. Though, 0:17:07.840 --> 0:17:09.680 I feel like this is a very good looking man. 0:17:10.520 --> 0:17:15.359 Uh he has like he's like green eyes, very jealous 0:17:15.400 --> 0:17:17.359 green eyes are the best. I mean, he's a model, 0:17:17.359 --> 0:17:21.919 so I'm sure he's pretty attractive. He's pretty pretty good looking. 0:17:22.040 --> 0:17:24.400 So good for Hannah. I'm happy for Like you said, 0:17:24.440 --> 0:17:26.800 she has been famously singer for quite some time, so 0:17:27.480 --> 0:17:30.080 I'm happy that she's in a relationship and hopefully it's 0:17:30.080 --> 0:17:32.240 a healthy and happy relationship, and hopefully it goes to 0:17:32.240 --> 0:17:35.440 the distance. Yeah great, I'm glad we could contribute really 0:17:35.440 --> 0:17:39.240 nothing to that whole lot of a lot of words 0:17:39.280 --> 0:17:42.720 with nothing behind him. You know, Hey, we're just here 0:17:42.760 --> 0:17:47.080 to ask questions, not answer them. Okay, that's why we're here. 0:17:47.119 --> 0:17:49.520 That's what we do. That's why it's called help. I 0:17:49.560 --> 0:17:53.560 second dating. It holds us uh zero percent responsible for 0:17:53.600 --> 0:17:55.960 anything we say, because we're already telling you how much 0:17:55.960 --> 0:17:59.120 we suck, you know, so it's likely if we're wrong 0:17:59.480 --> 0:18:02.520 or we're being stupid. It's like, well, what did you expect? 0:18:02.560 --> 0:18:04.640 We say it right there in the title that we suck? Yeah, 0:18:04.680 --> 0:18:09.119 what did you famously say in Paradise under promise, over deliver. 0:18:09.280 --> 0:18:12.639 That's what we do here at help. I suck at dating. 0:18:12.720 --> 0:18:14.439 You know, it's funny about about that. I think I 0:18:14.480 --> 0:18:17.240 might have show this on the podcast. Uh. I went, 0:18:17.240 --> 0:18:19.040 I got lunch with my boss like a like a lot, 0:18:19.080 --> 0:18:22.280 like a year ago or something like that, and he goes, hey, 0:18:22.320 --> 0:18:25.440 I heard you say under promise over deliver. And he goes, 0:18:26.080 --> 0:18:28.440 you know, I told you that when you were interviewing 0:18:28.440 --> 0:18:30.880 for this job, and I was like, I honestly had 0:18:30.880 --> 0:18:32.680 no idea. So apparently I sold that from my former 0:18:32.720 --> 0:18:36.679 boss um, fun little facts. So, Daniel Tuto, if you're listening, 0:18:36.920 --> 0:18:43.040 thanks for the great catchphrase. Well yeah, yeah, yeah. We 0:18:43.080 --> 0:18:45.600 already take a quick break. We've got a great guest 0:18:45.640 --> 0:18:49.840 coming up, author of How to Marry a Mensch, Robin 0:18:49.920 --> 0:18:53.120 Gorman Newman, will be joining us, so stick around after 0:18:53.160 --> 0:19:06.080 the break. We're gonna have her on shortly. Well, welcome 0:19:06.080 --> 0:19:08.600 back to help I suck at dating. We have a 0:19:08.680 --> 0:19:11.439 very special guest joining us via zoom because of the 0:19:11.440 --> 0:19:15.160 pandemic uh. She is the author of how to Marry 0:19:15.160 --> 0:19:18.159 a Mention, The Love Coach Guide to Meeting Your Mate, 0:19:18.359 --> 0:19:20.520 which is now available on Amazon. She is also the 0:19:20.520 --> 0:19:26.440 founder of www dot love coach dot com. Robin Gorman Newman, Robin, 0:19:26.520 --> 0:19:28.719 thank you so much for joining us today. How are you. 0:19:29.320 --> 0:19:31.679 I'm good. It's my pleasure to be here. Thanks for 0:19:31.720 --> 0:19:34.040 having me. Of course, first I have to say I 0:19:34.080 --> 0:19:37.159 love somebody with three names. I really I there's something 0:19:37.880 --> 0:19:41.600 badass about it. Robin Gorman Newman like it just sounds cool. 0:19:41.600 --> 0:19:44.000 I'm gonna start calling myself Jared Matthew Haven. That's my 0:19:44.000 --> 0:19:46.560 middle name. It doesn't have as much gump sure as 0:19:46.600 --> 0:19:48.800 your name though. Unfortunately, so of course you are the 0:19:48.840 --> 0:19:51.040 author of How To Meet a Mention in New York 0:19:51.080 --> 0:19:54.080 and how to Marry a Mention? Um, you course been 0:19:54.119 --> 0:19:57.359 on CNN, You've been on the Today Show. So tell me, 0:19:57.400 --> 0:20:00.560 first of all, what exactly is a mention? Why should 0:20:00.560 --> 0:20:03.000 we want to marry a mention? A mention is a decent, 0:20:03.040 --> 0:20:05.879 responsible person, and it's a man or a woman. So 0:20:05.960 --> 0:20:07.879 you don't have to be a mensche to be a 0:20:07.920 --> 0:20:11.520 female mench. And why are we talking about mention is 0:20:11.680 --> 0:20:14.280 because now more than ever, the world needs all the 0:20:14.359 --> 0:20:16.800 menshas it can get. And if you're looking for a 0:20:16.880 --> 0:20:19.280