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Speaker 1: Welcome into Turning Point tonight. We wish we were here

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Speaker 1: under better circumstances. Last night we couldn't bring ourselves to

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Speaker 1: only thing we can, which is remember an American hero,

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Speaker 1: a conservative movement powerhouse. And my friend Charlie Kirk and

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Speaker 1: happened yesterday was because of godlessness. This country was designed

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Speaker 1: for maximum individual freedom, but as John Adams said, it

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Speaker 1: only works the country that is, for a moral and

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Speaker 1: first be able to govern themselves. Since people have started

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Speaker 1: asking the philosophical questions of the world, the question has

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Speaker 1: always come up, can man come to virtue on his own?

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Speaker 1: And the answer, quite frankly, is no. Every thought experiment

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Speaker 1: God are we able to direct our aim upward. Western civilization,

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Speaker 1: to its credit, but at the moment, also to its detriment,

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Speaker 1: firmly reject the notion that mankind can create its own truth.

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Speaker 1: The tolerance of depravity leads to evil, and the increasing

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Speaker 1: mention what God also requires of us. Forgiveness, which I

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Speaker 1: the truth. So with that, God blessed Charlie Kirk and

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Speaker 1: God bless America. We're gonna talk to several of the

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Speaker 1: friends of Turning Points today, several contributors, friends of Charlie

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Speaker 1: gonna check in with Turning Points White House correspondent Monica Page. Monica, I,

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Speaker 1: Emotional day, I appreciate you coming on. Before we chat.

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Speaker 5: Charlie was my boss.

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Speaker 6: Charley Kirk was my boss, and we're absolutely devastated.

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Speaker 1: So I'm wondering if you have a.

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Speaker 7: Message for a turning point USA family.

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Speaker 4: It's a great fan made, a great friend of mine.

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Speaker 5: He was I would say, nobody's wrong of amazing.

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Speaker 4: He said, devastating cal mccrust for the country, and you

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Speaker 3: I would you ever hear.

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Speaker 4: Chill persons of Rigata Jeli.

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Speaker 1: He was a young guy, but older than the people

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Speaker 4: I've never seen anybody have such an impact punch as young.

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Speaker 7: But more than anything else.

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Speaker 6: Jarny, my mind was a man, what's your.

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Speaker 1: Message to the millions of young Americans who feel.

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Speaker 5: Was sucked out?

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Speaker 8: You know I can say is hang in there and I.

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Speaker 4: Think Turning Point. I spoke with Erica's wife and they

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Speaker 3: Republic is captivate.

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Speaker 4: If they could look at Rosie covering the job and

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Speaker 3: Charlie was a big factor. Monica.

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Speaker 1: You work in an industry and with colleagues that sprint

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Speaker 1: Charlie is at the top of mind of the leader

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Speaker 2: I mean, something is to be said because today is

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Speaker 2: it really says a lot. And it's been a really,

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Speaker 2: I was always doing the right thing. He always encouraged

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Speaker 3: Yeah, to echo your thoughts.

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Speaker 1: You know, there's a lot of people that you know

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Speaker 1: But is it safe to assume that everybody there, even

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Speaker 2: I will say the mood of the atmosphere here does

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Speaker 2: So we're just going to take it day by day.

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Speaker 2: The mood is heavy. This is a significant icon in

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Speaker 2: I just think it's baffling that this was just a

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Speaker 1: is I think exactly what Charlie would have wanted. Monica Page,

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Speaker 1: Turning Points, White House Correspondent, thank you so much for

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Speaker 2: Thanks Jo, Bob, and God bless you guys.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to turning point to we are continuing to

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Speaker 1: remember Charlie Kirk. Don't need to reiterate who's passed away yesterday,

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Speaker 3: It continues to hurt.

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Speaker 6: I mean it's I think all of us are just

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Speaker 7: Most god fearing man, like no one is like Charlie.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you meet him and he just captivates you and

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Speaker 6: You know, he's got free speech, and people respected that

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Speaker 7: But I mean, some of my favorite videos.

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Speaker 7: It's it's something I will hold in my heart forever.

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Speaker 6: But yeah, these campus events in the growth is something

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Speaker 7: Of course we'll always remember I love Charlie Kirk, Thanks so.

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Speaker 3: Much, Thank you.

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Speaker 1: We'll be right back after the break, Welcome back to

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Speaker 1: Turning Point tonight. We are still together charting the course

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Speaker 1: not changed, nor will it. We are remembering Charlie Kirk

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Speaker 1: continually this evening. You can send any of your thoughts, messages,

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Speaker 1: well wishes to TPT at tpusa dot com. We love

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Speaker 1: If you're unfamiliar with Toefer, he is a phenomenal force

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Speaker 1: He's been with the organization for probably about a year

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Speaker 1: What would you like to get out there that people

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Speaker 9: Well First and foremost, all I'm saying is the out

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Speaker 9: He went out there and spoke it boldly time and

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Speaker 9: Courage is to do what you need to do in

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Speaker 9: Charlie for believing in the gift God placed in me.

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Speaker 9: a voice for the next generation and help aspire the

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Speaker 9: world changes. And to be a part of this man,

445
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Speaker 9: you just have to be a part of it. You know,

446
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Speaker 9: people calling this man racist, just shut up. But that's

447
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Speaker 9: all I could tell people, just shut up. I mean,

448
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Speaker 9: how much does he have to do with organizations like

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Speaker 9: bleckxing with best friends like Candice, I mean us, right

450
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Speaker 9: like with people like us, they help elevate our voices.

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Speaker 9: How much much you do to prove that you're not racist.

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Speaker 9: It's so stupid to me, you know, But I do

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Speaker 9: want to remind people, no matter what side of the

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Speaker 9: value on, don't celebrate death.

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Speaker 3: Celebrate life.

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Speaker 9: You know, it's only the angels in the Bible talks about.

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Speaker 9: The only time they celebrate anything is when someone gets

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Speaker 9: their life to price. That's the only time you hear

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Speaker 9: them celebrating. We should do the same thing when somebody

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Speaker 9: comes over. But this death thing is evil. Don't let

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Speaker 9: Satan use you. Don't be a useful idiot for political

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Speaker 9: movements and motives and other movements. But also don't be

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Speaker 9: a used idiot for the devil. You know we will

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Speaker 9: better than this. We're Americans, and I just I'm tell

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Speaker 9: you this, though you know, the mic is still gonna

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Speaker 9: be picked up and it's still gonna go on. I

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Speaker 9: don't know who's gonna take the hand, but I'll tell

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Speaker 9: you this, they have really done it this time. They

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Speaker 9: have done it this time, you know. I you know

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Speaker 9: I wasn't as close as you were to Charlie, but

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Speaker 9: every time I was around Charlie. He was smiling, he

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Speaker 9: was encouraging, Like he was more encouraging than a lot

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Speaker 9: of my friends I grew up with that made fun

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Speaker 9: of me even going, but it's just it's that's the

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Speaker 9: Charlie I knew, and I'm going to remember that legacy today,

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Speaker 9: especially with you know, nine to eleven and Patriot.

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Speaker 10: Ay.

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Speaker 9: He was a true American patriot, the true American hero.

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Speaker 9: And I just hope that everybody else sees that too. Man,

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Speaker 9: So America do better.

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm curious about your thoughts and perspectives about this.

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Speaker 1: Uh this, this is not at all in a way

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Speaker 1: to use a pun, but I genuinely think the most

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Speaker 1: apt and appropriate use of the turning point is this

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Speaker 1: situation that we're in. As awful as it is, it

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Speaker 1: is a turning point in American culture. And what I've

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Speaker 1: viewed in the couple hours days since it's since it's happened,

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Speaker 1: is the willingness to engage in areas that I wouldn't

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Speaker 1: have otherwise engaged in. And that can be as small

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Speaker 1: as somebody posts something on a social media platform but

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Speaker 1: I usually would just roll my eyes at but now

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Speaker 1: I think, no, I'm not going to let.

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Speaker 3: You get away with that.

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Speaker 1: What is, in your opinion, the kind of the Christian

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Speaker 1: approach to doing that? Because I do think we're at

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Speaker 1: a turning point, We're at an inflection point and it

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Speaker 1: needs to be done.

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Speaker 3: How do we go about doing that? And truth?

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Speaker 9: There's a fire video I found try to when a

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Speaker 9: young lady asked him about that. How do we deal

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Speaker 9: with civil discourse? And he quoted John eighth. You know,

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Speaker 9: it's one way to do it with grace and truth.

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Speaker 9: As Christians, we should do that. Like I'm coming to

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Speaker 9: you gracefully, but I'm also coming at you with truth.

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Speaker 9: Like you, I appreciate your opinion and you have the

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Speaker 9: right to it, but you don't have the right to

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Speaker 9: your own truth. And what you're doing is evil, is wrong,

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Speaker 9: and you need to correct it. You know, we got

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Speaker 9: to start calling out sin, and I think it's more

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Speaker 9: potent when it's not hypocritical. So if you're gonna do

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Speaker 9: it from one side, do it for both sides and

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Speaker 9: just stand on it. You know, we all can improve

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Speaker 9: in that area, but I try my best to do

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Speaker 9: the same. And like you, man, if everybody is you know,

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Speaker 9: they can have their own platforms, So I try not

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Speaker 9: to engage with it because, you know, ironically, because of

517
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Speaker 9: social media, my name is big. So if I come

518
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Speaker 9: in anything, it's just gonna drive up the algorithm and

519
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Speaker 9: then there's gonna get more attention and they're gonna make money.

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Speaker 9: So I try to draw a fine line between calling

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Speaker 9: somebody out on a post and just making my own

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Speaker 9: commentary on my own page.

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Speaker 8: But we need both.

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Speaker 3: We need both.

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Speaker 10: We need to show the.

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Speaker 9: World and show the devil that we're not gonna stay

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Speaker 9: quiet in this time of equlness. We're gonna rise up

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Speaker 9: and we're gonna stand on truths.

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Speaker 3: Uh toy.

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Speaker 1: I open this show effectively, I don't know, talking about

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Speaker 1: godlessness in the country, because that's what I think this

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Speaker 1: really comes down to.

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Speaker 3: I think there is a yes.

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Speaker 1: The political rhetoric is heated, the political climate, but that's

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Speaker 1: not the root cause. The root cause, I believe it

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Speaker 1: is godlessness. And I'm not assuming that you agree with that.

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Speaker 1: But inso much as that is true that America is

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Speaker 1: becoming an increasingly godless society.

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Speaker 3: What do we do to write that ship?

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Speaker 1: What do we do well, you know, with your platform,

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Speaker 1: with the you know, just every day average people.

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Speaker 3: What do we do to.

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Speaker 1: Try and reverse course and bring God back into a

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Speaker 1: society that I believe, as John Adams said, only works

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Speaker 1: this country and the idea of America only works for

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Speaker 1: a moral and religious people.

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Speaker 9: I would say, what IFSI in six twelve and thirteen

548
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Speaker 9: talks about you know, for wrestled not against flesh and blood,

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Speaker 9: but against the principalities, against powers, against darkness, and you know,

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Speaker 9: evil and high places. So you know wherefore put on

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Speaker 9: a whole armor of God? So did you be able

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Speaker 9: to stand uh in the day of evil? Having all

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Speaker 9: but stood?

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Speaker 2: Uh?

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Speaker 9: Taking a stand is an action, and we just need

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Speaker 9: to stand on what God has already said, his promises

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Speaker 9: and his plans. You know, I feel like Christians we

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Speaker 9: do that the very simple act of doing that to

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Speaker 9: be monumental, and it could be drowndbreaking for so many

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Speaker 9: people we saw that. Guess once again, this has.

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Speaker 3: Been Charton's legacy.

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Speaker 9: He's done things that you know, makes me feel convicted

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Speaker 9: for how shallow my walkfen has been.

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Speaker 10: When I was young.

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Speaker 9: You know, this man waited, he was married, to have

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Speaker 9: have sex. He did everything that you was supposed to do,

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Speaker 9: and then followed faithfully. He was a great UH servant,

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Speaker 9: and you know, it's it's a walk today that we

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Speaker 9: don't have to worry about any drama. You know, a

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Speaker 9: lot of these leaders that we have, we gotta worry

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Speaker 9: about scoundals, everything like that. We don't have that with Charlie.

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Speaker 9: We just we just get to talk about the great

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Speaker 9: things that he did and and and the great life

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Speaker 9: that he led. So I'm proud and to me, that's

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Speaker 9: that's what's gonna turn heads. Christian music is already making

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Speaker 9: ways and given the unstableness of culture, politics, and the world,

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Speaker 9: you know, that's why I'm glad. The Bible says the

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Speaker 9: word is never changing.

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Speaker 3: God's the same, and he.

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Speaker 9: Was yesterday to day in fever, and that right there

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Speaker 9: the nuns that that stability and Christie can remain there. Man,

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Speaker 9: a lot of people will start flocking to us, but

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Speaker 9: we got to stand strong, remain strong.

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Speaker 1: And it's like, Yeah, couldn't agree more to UH turning

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Speaker 1: point contributor among many other hats that he wears in

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Speaker 1: the conservative movement. Thank you so much for joining us.

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Speaker 1: I really appreciate you taking the time.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you for I will thank you.

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Speaker 1: We'll be right back after the break. Welcome back to

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Speaker 1: Turning Point Tonight. We're continuing on in talking about talking

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Speaker 1: about Charlie, how greative a person he was, his stature

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Speaker 1: in the movement as well as personally. If you have thoughts,

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Speaker 1: and I'm sure you do, Turning Point Tonight TPT at

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Speaker 1: tpusa dot com send your your thoughts, your fond memories

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Speaker 1: of Charlie. We love to see those as they come in.

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Speaker 1: Right now, we want to talk to Turning Point contributor

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Speaker 1: Anthony Watson, who has been a found Charlie for as

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Speaker 1: many years as I think I have, and.

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Speaker 3: Knew who he was as a.

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Speaker 1: Person and understood, you know, and I don't mean to

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Speaker 1: sound repetitive, but the impactful nature of a guy who

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Speaker 1: is irreplaceable in my opinion, Anthony, what are your I mean,

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Speaker 1: I know what we're all going through, but what I'll

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Speaker 1: just opening the floorp you go ahead.

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Speaker 8: Well, I think everyone is still in a state of

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Speaker 8: shock with everything that's been happening. Uh, it's one of

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Speaker 8: those things that nobody wants to believe. But one of

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Speaker 8: the things that I will say about Charlie that most

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Speaker 8: people probably won't highlight or talk about, was he when

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Speaker 8: he wasn't on camera, when he wasn't filming, when he

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Speaker 8: wasn't on his show or his podcast. You know, he

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Speaker 8: was a man of very little words, but the words

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Speaker 8: that he spoke were ones that meant the most to me.

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Speaker 8: You know, he was never someone that I had like

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Speaker 8: intellectual conversations with in depth that most people would have gotten.

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Speaker 8: But I got a lot of memories from him, and

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Speaker 8: I think one of my most fondest ones was when

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Speaker 8: we were doing one of our student led organizational meetings

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Speaker 8: and whatnot, and I got the opportunity to introduce him.

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Speaker 8: You know, we were just chatting with each other backstage,

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Speaker 8: and he only told me three things. He said that

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Speaker 8: he was happy that he brought me on to the team,

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Speaker 8: he appreciated my work ethic because he says, you know,

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Speaker 8: you are a really hard worker. And then he told

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Speaker 8: me that he was proud of me. And you know,

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Speaker 8: when Charlie's not on stage, anyone who knows him knows

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Speaker 8: that he was somebody that was very to himself and

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Speaker 8: very quiet because he was always trying to remain focused

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Speaker 8: in on mission. And here, what we have always had

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Speaker 8: is an example of somebody that was willing to stop

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Speaker 8: at nothing to make sure that the truth got forward.

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Speaker 8: So that's the Charlie that I know. It's not the

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Speaker 8: popular Charlie that a lot of people are familiar with,

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Speaker 8: but those are the memories that mean the most to

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Speaker 8: me because it was when nobody else was there and

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Speaker 8: it was just the moments between he and I that

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Speaker 8: he would say things to me that have stuck with me,

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Speaker 8: you know. And this hasn't killed anything inside of me.

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00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 8: If anything, it's invigorated and invoked more of a passion

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Speaker 8: and more of a desire to now continue to push

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Speaker 8: back because in this conservative movement that we're in, it's

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Speaker 8: never about following somebody until they retire or until they

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Speaker 8: fall off, or in cases like this, when they're taken

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Speaker 8: away from us. It's always next person up, because this

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Speaker 8: is a servant's role. It's about who's willing to do

646
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Speaker 8: the most for the people that need it the most.

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Speaker 8: And Charlie was somebody that led by example for the

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Speaker 8: next generation. And we saw the move that was happening

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Speaker 8: with that, people in politics, people in all these different

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Speaker 8: positions that dread and desire to have the kind of

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Speaker 8: impact that he did just for simply asking questions that

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Speaker 8: most people disagreed with, and to be honest, it's just like,

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Speaker 8: this is what we've all told everybody at Turning Point.

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Speaker 8: You need to speak the truth, no matter what the cost,

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Speaker 8: because the cost is greater if you stay quiet. And

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Speaker 8: now more than ever, I think through his sacrifice and

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Speaker 8: through everything that he's done for every single person that's

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Speaker 8: been employed at Turning Point, been to any of his events, now,

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Speaker 8: more than ever, nobody cares about the results or anything

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Speaker 8: that now we considered losing in this because we realize

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Speaker 8: that this is bigger than us, and it's going to

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Speaker 8: take a collective work of us coming together to not

663
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Speaker 8: continue to move forward. And it's not so much the

664
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Speaker 8: left that we now have to fight against that because

665
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:32,360
Speaker 8: we already know what their arguments are, we already know

666
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Speaker 8: what their stances are. It's the people on our side

667
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:37,319
Speaker 8: that are stagnant, the ones that aren't getting involved, the

668
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:39,319
Speaker 8: ones that aren't doing anything, and the ones that keep

669
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Speaker 8: passing all the responsibility off to everybody else. Everybody now

670
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:48,520
Speaker 8: is grieving. Everybody now is feeling a lot because the

671
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:50,719
Speaker 8: nature of what happened and the nature of this whole

672
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 8: scenario is tragic. You know, nobody deserves to be removed

673
00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:59,400
Speaker 8: from family or their friends in this manner. But it's

674
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 8: also a way make a call for people to know

675
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 8: and understand that this is what it might cost if

676
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Speaker 8: this is the life that you choose to stand for.

677
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Speaker 8: And I'm here to tell you, Joe Bob that if

678
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Speaker 8: my life is to be taken out that way, I'm

679
00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:13,600
Speaker 8: willing and I'm ready to do it because I care

680
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:16,759
Speaker 8: him far more for what we're fighting for. Knowing that

681
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:19,120
Speaker 8: at the end of my life, my goal, in my

682
00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:23,240
Speaker 8: reward is heaven. Then if death is victory, how afraid

683
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Speaker 8: of life do I need to be?

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Speaker 3: No, Anthony, maybe some of the viewers might know this.

685
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Speaker 1: You go to more schools than I think, really anybody

686
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Speaker 1: in the Turning Point family, possibly minus Charlie. Can you

687
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Speaker 1: describe what his impact even if he wasn't on campus

688
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:45,839
Speaker 1: with you, was there amongst the students that were there.

689
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Speaker 1: I know you do a lot of high schools. Describe

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Speaker 1: what his impact was just being there knowing that he

691
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Speaker 1: was the head of the head of the organization and

692
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Speaker 1: what that meant to those students when you were interacting

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Speaker 1: with them.

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Speaker 8: Well, I mean, I spend a lot of time on

695
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Speaker 8: the road throughout the school year. There's no denying or

696
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:10,319
Speaker 8: question when it comes to anybody that you know, I

697
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:13,320
Speaker 8: try to you know, would always try in my mind

698
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Speaker 8: to see if I could outdo Charlie with as many

699
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Speaker 8: events that I did during the school year. But when

700
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Speaker 8: you went anywhere and you saw a turning point, or

701
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 8: you saw Club America now for our high school students,

702
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:26,320
Speaker 8: and you went to a college, Charlie's name was attached

703
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Speaker 8: to all of it. People saw a turning point and

704
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 8: everyone was like, oh, you follow that Charlie Kirk guy.

705
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:33,280
Speaker 8: So even when he wasn't there, he was still stirring

706
00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:36,320
Speaker 8: the pot. And that's okay, And that is the whole

707
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:39,319
Speaker 8: mission to what we at turning point are trying to do.

708
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:42,040
Speaker 8: It's not rock the boat, it's stir the pot to

709
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:45,719
Speaker 8: where you can be yourself and challenge the powers that be,

710
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:49,879
Speaker 8: speak to power, walk in the truth and not your

711
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:52,919
Speaker 8: feelings or your version of it, the ultimate truth, which

712
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Speaker 8: is Jesus Christ himself, and Charlie on campuses across America

713
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Speaker 8: was invoking courage and all of these young students. There

714
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Speaker 8: were so many people that through his videos on his

715
00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:05,720
Speaker 8: TV show, through his YouTube channel, all of the shorts

716
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 8: that people would clip up, where all of the arguments

717
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Speaker 8: that are universal on campuses around the country were finally

718
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:14,160
Speaker 8: having people give a lot of feedback and a lot

719
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Speaker 8: of pushback to where people weren't just supposed to take

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Speaker 8: all of this nonsense anymore. So Charlie definitely had an

721
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Speaker 8: impact in every aspect of one who does in a

722
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Speaker 8: grassroots movement. It's about the work that you put in,

723
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:28,520
Speaker 8: it's about the message in the mission that you fight for,

724
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Speaker 8: and it's the tools that you use to now you

725
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Speaker 8: equip yourself to be someone who's useful and valuable in

726
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Speaker 8: all of those places. So every school that I've went to,

727
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:41,280
Speaker 8: everyone was always raving about Charlie. They were always excited

728
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Speaker 8: to come to our events. They couldn't wait for the

729
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:46,960
Speaker 8: semester to be over for YWLS or Student Action or

730
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Speaker 8: the end of the year for America Fest, because everybody

731
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Speaker 8: at the opening Bell wanted to see Charlie walk on stage.

732
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Speaker 8: They wanted to watch him debate. Students would come around

733
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Speaker 8: ever and they would soak up everything that he said

734
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Speaker 8: like a sponge so that they could now take the

735
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Speaker 8: in that he was giving and now find ways to

736
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Speaker 8: apply that and now use that on their campuses to

737
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Speaker 8: now start shifting so that all of these college campuses

738
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Speaker 8: weren't just liberal comedy camps. You know, Charlie was somebody

739
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Speaker 8: who wasn't just a talker. He was a doer, because

740
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Speaker 8: you have far too many creators on the Internet that

741
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Speaker 8: they just lived there. But he was amongst the people,

742
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Speaker 8: and he was a people person, which is why you're

743
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Speaker 8: starting to see such a coming together of a lot

744
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Speaker 8: of people from college campuses to high schools, to communities,

745
00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 8: to activism hubs, to churches, through TP Faith, through Blecksit,

746
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:32,480
Speaker 8: through every department that he has now created to now

747
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:35,279
Speaker 8: continue putting the truth in all of the communities that

748
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:37,719
Speaker 8: have been affected by the lies and deceitfulness of the

749
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:40,720
Speaker 8: left for years. And everyone's been saying, we want somebody

750
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Speaker 8: to go and do it, and Charlie was the person

751
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Speaker 8: that I've only decided to do that, but he took

752
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Speaker 8: it upon himself to now lead people by example, which

753
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Speaker 8: is something that a lot of people don't do. A

754
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:51,319
Speaker 8: lot of people talk, but Charlie was somebody that when

755
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:53,200
Speaker 8: he says that he's done it, it's something that he's

756
00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:55,359
Speaker 8: done or something that he was always willing to do

757
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:58,680
Speaker 8: and everybody from every college campus that I've been to,

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Speaker 8: and the two years three years that I've worked for

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00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:02,759
Speaker 8: Turning Point, Joe Bob, I think i'd only been to

760
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Speaker 8: ten states. I've been to forty nine out of fifty

761
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Speaker 8: because of Turning Point. And out of those forty nine states,

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Speaker 8: I have heard everybody rave about how impactful Charlie is

763
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Speaker 8: on their family. How many people that used to be

764
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Speaker 8: liberals that now are strong conservatives because Charlie opened their

765
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Speaker 8: eyes to things that they know now that they've been

766
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:23,520
Speaker 8: deceived and lied to about. And it's up to us now,

767
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:26,239
Speaker 8: and in fact, it's more on our shoulders now to

768
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Speaker 8: carry the mantle of what he started, because at the

769
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:31,359
Speaker 8: end of the day, we're not telling anybody anything new,

770
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:34,160
Speaker 8: We're not giving anybody so that they haven't heard. We're

771
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:36,879
Speaker 8: bringing them back to the basics and telling people that

772
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:39,920
Speaker 8: this is what we were created to be, this is

773
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Speaker 8: the truth of the matter of what we're supposed to do,

774
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Speaker 8: and this is how we do it, so that if

775
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 8: anyone steps away, the work can continue going on. And

776
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:50,360
Speaker 8: now we are more fired up and more spurred to

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Speaker 8: keep going to carry out that message.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I couldn't agree more with everything you said, Anthony Watson,

779
00:42:57,160 --> 00:43:00,640
Speaker 1: Turning Point contributor, thank you so much for for sharing

780
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:02,279
Speaker 1: your thoughts on Charlie and.

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Speaker 3: Keep up the good fight.

782
00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:05,160
Speaker 2: Y see you too, Jobab.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to Turning Point tonight, where we are continuing

784
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:24,560
Speaker 1: to chart the course of America's cultural comeback, arguably more

785
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:29,360
Speaker 1: fervently than ever before. We are continuing to remember Charlie

786
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:32,120
Speaker 1: Kirk this evening. One of the things that you probably

787
00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:38,000
Speaker 1: haven't heard here on this show is the political interplay

788
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:42,080
Speaker 1: that's gone back and forth. I believe there is a

789
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:45,680
Speaker 1: time for that that will come, and I will not

790
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:49,080
Speaker 1: shy away from all of the things that the left

791
00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:54,359
Speaker 1: has said in reaction to this horrible tragedy. But for now,

792
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:59,319
Speaker 1: I'd like to continue to focus solely on Charlie and

793
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:02,279
Speaker 1: what he meant, and specifically what he meant to me.

794
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:06,640
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if I've shared this full story of

795
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:10,879
Speaker 1: how I got involved at Turning Point, but here it is.

796
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:15,759
Speaker 1: I started making videos in my garage, and I had

797
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:20,560
Speaker 1: been involved in politics for several years, but on the

798
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:23,239
Speaker 1: campaign side, I had never done the media side, so

799
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:26,960
Speaker 1: to speak. One thing led to another, I got picked

800
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:30,840
Speaker 1: up by an organization, the Daily caller specifically, that landed

801
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:33,760
Speaker 1: me on the couch at what was then called Turning

802
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:41,320
Speaker 1: Point Live or TPUSA Live, and by you know, whatever reason,

803
00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:46,160
Speaker 1: Charlie decided we're gonna bring him on to Turning Point.

804
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:47,520
Speaker 3: I was.

805
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:53,799
Speaker 1: Overwhelmed with astonishment that he would have enough trust in

806
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:56,400
Speaker 1: me to take a gamble on a guy who wasn't

807
00:44:56,760 --> 00:45:02,080
Speaker 1: really that influential and the conservative space, but really any space.

808
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:02,880
Speaker 3: I don't even know.

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00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:05,239
Speaker 1: I was influential in my own friend of group, let

810
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:09,360
Speaker 1: alone to the level and the magnitude that Charlie was.

811
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Speaker 1: But nevertheless he decided to take a chance on me,

812
00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:16,840
Speaker 1: and by mere circumstance, a couple of years later, actually

813
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:19,719
Speaker 1: a couple months later, there was a speaker that was

814
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:23,799
Speaker 1: late to a YWLS event and Charlie looked at me

815
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:25,719
Speaker 1: and said, hey, you do stand up comedy, right, And

816
00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:27,759
Speaker 1: I said yep. And he's like, can you go on

817
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:30,200
Speaker 1: stage and kill twenty minutes our speakers an hour late?

818
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:34,440
Speaker 1: He said all right, And he had enough confidence in

819
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 1: me to put me in front of two thousand young

820
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:43,719
Speaker 1: women at the pre eminent women's event in conservative and

821
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:48,200
Speaker 1: conservative movement. And from there he said, hey, you know

822
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:50,399
Speaker 1: that was pretty good, why don't you come on tour

823
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:53,160
Speaker 1: with me? And so for the last three years I'd

824
00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:56,239
Speaker 1: spent on the road, going to every college campus with

825
00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:58,080
Speaker 1: Charlie and.

826
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Speaker 3: Speaking in front of him.

827
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Speaker 1: They would be evening event and I'd go and I'd

828
00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:04,920
Speaker 1: do five ten minutes, and then he'd come on and

829
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:08,720
Speaker 1: is you know, kind of like a one to two punch,

830
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:12,320
Speaker 1: now obviously him being the one and much much bigger punch.

831
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Speaker 1: But we traveled the country together, and all I mean

832
00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:20,279
Speaker 1: to say by telling you all this is is for

833
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:24,960
Speaker 1: whatever reason, so often Charlie had more confidence than me

834
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Speaker 1: than I think I had in myself. He opened doors

835
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:33,759
Speaker 1: for me that most people would never dream of those

836
00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:37,840
Speaker 1: doors being opened. I got to see how passionate he was,

837
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:40,919
Speaker 1: how driven he was, how motivated he was to do

838
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:44,360
Speaker 1: all the work that he was doing with his organization

839
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Speaker 1: and with the Conservative movement as a whole.

840
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Speaker 3: I saw him as a friend.

841
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:56,240
Speaker 1: And a mentor, and am thankful and grateful for everything

842
00:46:56,280 --> 00:47:00,680
Speaker 1: that he has done for myself, my family, and outside

843
00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:02,480
Speaker 1: of that, the movement as a whole.

844
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Speaker 3: And I know we're.

845
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:10,600
Speaker 1: Gonna keep talking about him for as long as it

846
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:13,520
Speaker 1: takes for the message to get across which may be

847
00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:18,840
Speaker 1: a lifetime. But Charlie was a special, special person. And

848
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:21,080
Speaker 1: I know you've heard all of that before, but it

849
00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:27,400
Speaker 1: needs to be reiterated until you can't talk anymore, because

850
00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:30,160
Speaker 1: that's how important and special the guy he was. I

851
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:34,040
Speaker 1: want to play you this. I'm not even sure who

852
00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:37,359
Speaker 1: put this out. I just I saw this. It caught

853
00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:41,320
Speaker 1: my wife's side because the first clip is Charlie walking

854
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:44,759
Speaker 1: down a little aisle at mar Lago, and uh there

855
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:47,359
Speaker 1: was say it hi to his little girl and him

856
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:50,920
Speaker 1: as they walk down. And the overall message of the

857
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:52,879
Speaker 1: video is that that that's just what caught my wife's eye.

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00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:55,520
Speaker 3: And I want you to watch this.

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00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:02,719
Speaker 5: What advice do you have for me as I move

860
00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:05,920
Speaker 5: into adulthood in order to become a more informed and

861
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:06,800
Speaker 5: involved citizen.

862
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:11,520
Speaker 10: Well, first of all, thank you for being here, and

863
00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 10: I have hope thanks to people like you.

864
00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:13,920
Speaker 3: How old are you again?

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Speaker 10: Thirteen thirteen? Here's a couple of things I want to

866
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:19,759
Speaker 10: encourage you to do. Learn something new every single day,

867
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Speaker 10: and focus on what it means to be a good

868
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:26,640
Speaker 10: person and a person of strong character. Arizontle said that

869
00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:28,880
Speaker 10: courage is the ultimate virtuin about it. There are no

870
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:31,640
Speaker 10: other virtues. If people aren't courageous, you don't have honesty,

871
00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:34,880
Speaker 10: you don't have justice, you don't beauty, you don't have wonder.

872
00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:36,920
Speaker 10: And so, at age thirteen, I want you to commit

873
00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:39,440
Speaker 10: yourself to a life and courage. Courage is doing the

874
00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:40,200
Speaker 10: right thing when.

875
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Speaker 7: You don't know how.

876
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:43,440
Speaker 10: It's going to work out. Courage is committing yourselves to

877
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:46,640
Speaker 10: the correct course of action, regardless of the cost associated

878
00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:48,960
Speaker 10: to it. Every human being, I believe, is made in

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Speaker 10: the emits of the divine, is sacred, is unique. And

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Speaker 10: if we get away from this principle as we have,

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Speaker 10: we not only have moral degradation, we not only have

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Speaker 10: the collapsing society around us, but it's bad for that

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Speaker 10: being itself. That being itself is unique, that being has rights.

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Speaker 10: And who are we to say, just because we're older,

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Speaker 10: that we get to murder it?

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Speaker 5: Thank you, ah, Glenn?

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Speaker 3: Can we just play the next clip?

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Speaker 8: I how do you want to be remembered?

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Speaker 3: If I die, everything just goes away?

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Speaker 8: How would you if you could be associated with one thing,

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Speaker 8: how would you want to be remembered?

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Speaker 10: I want to be I want to be remembered for

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Speaker 10: for courage from my faith. That would be the most

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Speaker 10: important thing. Most important thing is my faith in my life.

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Speaker 1: You don't need any more of my coventary We'll see tomorrow,

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Speaker 1: same time, same place. God bless America.