1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:01,840 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, me hint that. I just want to give 2 00:00:01,880 --> 00:00:04,040 Speaker 1: you a heads up. The program you are about to 3 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:07,880 Speaker 1: hear may have some explicit language, it may not. It 4 00:00:07,920 --> 00:00:10,680 Speaker 1: also depends on where the vibes and the spirit leads us. 5 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:20,119 Speaker 1: Hope you enjoy. Welcome to Monita, a deep dive into 6 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:23,119 Speaker 1: the Latin X experience with more Anita. We want to 7 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 1: create a community and a shared space with you while 8 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 1: sharing knowledge and inspiration. This show is about celebrating our 9 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:33,640 Speaker 1: culture with guests who exemplify the best of us. I'm 10 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:42,320 Speaker 1: Darrylene Gastillo, Bethane Veetle. Oh yeah, me hinted. Today we 11 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 1: have the hilarious, the charismatic, just all around amazing human 12 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:52,559 Speaker 1: and actor Christopher I met Is and we are talking 13 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 1: about our love trem language. Now not just any old language. Well, 14 00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 1: actually it is kind of old. Here. I'll give you 15 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:05,760 Speaker 1: a hint. To be or not to be? That is 16 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 1: the question. Got it? For those of you who don't 17 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:13,319 Speaker 1: got it? We are talking about Shakespeare. Okay, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, 18 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 1: don't switch it off just yet. I challenge you to 19 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 1: give this one a curse. Listen, because not only do 20 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:23,200 Speaker 1: we talk about our love for Shakespeare, but we connect 21 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 1: this with our love for our language, Spanish and our 22 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 1: relationship with both of these languages. I know, I know, 23 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 1: how do we do that? Yeah? Keep listening. Chris goes 24 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 1: even deeper into how he has been a true follower 25 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 1: and lover of Shakespeare, but found himself being rejected and 26 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 1: told many a times how latinid people had no place 27 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 1: in these classical, prestigious pieces. Chris has looked at all 28 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 1: of that rejection dead in the eye and faced it 29 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 1: head on. To prove all those people wrong, he created 30 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 1: his path and studied at the University of San Diego 31 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 1: and the Old Blow, which only chooses seven lucky actors 32 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:11,360 Speaker 1: to enter their master's program. Now, get this, tuition is 33 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:14,919 Speaker 1: free while you get paid a stipend to receive your 34 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:18,920 Speaker 1: masters and Chris got one of those spots out of 35 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 1: those seven people. Where do I sign up? Now? He 36 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:26,639 Speaker 1: talks about his journey to Shakespeare as well, and how 37 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:29,640 Speaker 1: where he went for undergrad did not really encourage his 38 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:33,639 Speaker 1: journey into the classics. It gets really real. I totally 39 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:37,520 Speaker 1: felt this conversation because I too am a lover of 40 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 1: Sir Shakespeare. In case you didn't know, I studied at 41 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:43,680 Speaker 1: the London Academy of Music and Dramatic Arts, and I 42 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 1: played that bettine mantaining of the Shrew. I also drank 43 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 1: tons of cider and met the most wonderful people while 44 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 1: living in London. But Shakespeare changed my life as an actor, 45 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:59,360 Speaker 1: and I have an obsession with the language. Now. I 46 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:02,920 Speaker 1: had some similar battles, such as Chris, But to hear 47 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:06,399 Speaker 1: from an other fellow Latina actor literally take all these 48 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:10,520 Speaker 1: battles and win the war is pretty epic. Oh yeah, 49 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 1: did I mention that Chris will be making his delacour 50 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 1: public theater debut at Shakespeare in the Park and as 51 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 1: you like it as Touchstone, I mean talk about rejection 52 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 1: and turning it into the most badass move. Oh Latina, 53 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 1: people can't be in Shakespeare. Oh Latin that people can't 54 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 1: be in the Shakespeare. Peace cool. I'll just book one 55 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 1: of the most prestigious Shakespeare theaters and go star in 56 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 1: the show super casual Chris, congratulations. I want to give 57 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 1: a warning as well that this episode contains bird noises, 58 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 1: shakespeare in accents, laughter, joy, knowledge, and so much pride 59 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 1: within our language. For the love of language, than veto 60 00:03:56,320 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 1: welcome to more and Nita, Oh my god, sale. I'm 61 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 1: so happy to be here, thank you for having me 62 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 1: come on ballet Um. So Christopher or do you prefer Chris? 63 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 1: You know, I'm kind of feeling out both. When I 64 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 1: was like, uh, in grad school, I was like, it's Christopher. 65 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 1: I'm getting my master's degree, It's Christopher Michael. But now 66 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:23,279 Speaker 1: now I'm like, that's pretendially. I mean, you know, yes, 67 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 1: there was the name I was given, you know, by 68 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 1: my my parents. But Christopher, Chris whatever kind of you know, 69 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:31,559 Speaker 1: sinks into your mouth the best, whatever you like saying 70 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:33,279 Speaker 1: the best. You know, where did you go to grad school? 71 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:35,839 Speaker 1: I went to grad school at the University of San 72 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:39,160 Speaker 1: Diego and the Old Globe. They had a partnership program 73 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:43,480 Speaker 1: and they bring seven actors in every year we auditioned 74 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 1: to New York Um. They bring in seven talented actors, 75 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 1: the Lucky seven, that's right, and we study, you know, 76 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 1: acting with predominantly a focus on classical like Shakespeare. And 77 00:04:56,960 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 1: it's for two years, and the perk is it's free. 78 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:04,840 Speaker 1: You get a stipend and I feel like they need 79 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:06,280 Speaker 1: they're gonna they need to pay me for this's gonna 80 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 1: do a promo for them. And you get to participate 81 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:15,839 Speaker 1: in four festival stage Shakespeare productions at the Old Globe 82 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 1: during the summertime, so we work year round. So that's 83 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 1: why they're able to do it in two years as 84 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 1: opposed to like I think other programs are a lot 85 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:26,039 Speaker 1: of them are three years. Uh some even four. But 86 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 1: the reason why we were able to do it in 87 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 1: two years is because we work through the summer, so 88 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:34,360 Speaker 1: we don't have any recess for two years. But that's 89 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:36,960 Speaker 1: great because also, like the Old Globe is like professional, 90 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:40,920 Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's like a very prestigious professional theater company, 91 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 1: um that everyone wants to work for. It's amazing too 92 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 1: because you're in Balboa Park, which if you've never have 93 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:49,279 Speaker 1: you ever been to San Diego, scourge is out there. 94 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:51,919 Speaker 1: You've ever been to San Diego, you're in this The 95 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:54,719 Speaker 1: first time I went there, it was way before I 96 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 1: went to you know, school there, and you get there 97 00:05:57,480 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 1: and you feel like you're in Spain or something. It's 98 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:05,680 Speaker 1: like all of these sort of like Spanish style buildings 99 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:09,600 Speaker 1: and then this beautiful, the amazing like you said, theatrical 100 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:13,919 Speaker 1: institution just right there, um with the zoo behind. I 101 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 1: mean literally you'll go out there and you'll see Shakespeare 102 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:21,599 Speaker 1: in the evening among the stars and behind the actors 103 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 1: who are working, you'll hear lions roaring, or you'll hear 104 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 1: animals because the zoo in San Diego Zoo is right there. 105 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 1: It's amazing. Or you'll hear like weird like you know, 106 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 1: peacock birds just being like you know, like just in 107 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 1: the background. Why you're like to be or not to be? 108 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 1: That is the question question. I love that. I love that. Okay, 109 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 1: so I know we just dived right in. We were like, but, um, 110 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:50,719 Speaker 1: how did you decide to go to grad school? Because 111 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:53,719 Speaker 1: I think there's a stigma with that with some actors. 112 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:55,840 Speaker 1: I don't know if you've ever heard of that stigma, 113 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:58,839 Speaker 1: but of course it was of course, I mean the 114 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 1: ones that I have heard of. Our Like, Okay, you 115 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:03,840 Speaker 1: go to grad school when you know, you're kind of 116 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 1: like auditions aren't happening, or things aren't rolling, or or 117 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 1: you just like want to go study to be a 118 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 1: teacher or things like that. What was the reason that 119 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 1: you decided to go to grad school? And obviously this 120 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:17,400 Speaker 1: was around COVID time frame I'm guessing, which we're still 121 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 1: in to be real, but you know, yeah, to start 122 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 1: with getting into acting. Um, I was just, first of all, 123 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:28,240 Speaker 1: I have a d h D. And I'm proud to 124 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 1: be somebody with a d h D. Uh, just because 125 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 1: like it's just my brain just worked completely different, you know. Um. 126 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 1: So as a child, I just was all over the place, 127 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 1: always doing just you know, different skits. I just always 128 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 1: wanted to be kind of entertaining, not necessarily like the 129 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:52,119 Speaker 1: center of attention, but just entertaining and making people laugh. 130 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 1: And I was always singing songs and everything and so actually, 131 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 1: but I didn't really fall into acting. I found the 132 00:07:57,120 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 1: choir first, so I was like singing first, you know, 133 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 1: and then it was you know, I think I did 134 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 1: like a community theater show. I was supposed to do 135 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 1: a community theater show of Fiddler on the Roof when 136 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:14,119 Speaker 1: I was like ten, but then I broke my wrist 137 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 1: on a gas powered scooter so I couldn't do it. 138 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 1: So actually it wasn't really until eighth grade that I 139 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 1: did Greece, and I was like, you know, I played 140 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 1: the teen Angels like beauty school dropout because I was 141 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 1: a soprano at that time. Um, And but then I 142 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 1: really fell in love with it in in high school 143 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:36,520 Speaker 1: and like what maybe want to really go into it, 144 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 1: specifically musical theater. Um at first was playing Captain Hook 145 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 1: in the playing Peter Pan. Wait, I'm sorry, I'm sorry 146 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 1: you played Captain Hook? I did? I did? I played 147 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:51,600 Speaker 1: captain Did you have the hair and everything as you do? Now? 148 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:54,200 Speaker 1: I did not have the long hair. They dive, they wig, 149 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:57,200 Speaker 1: they put a wig. They put a wig on my head. 150 00:08:57,800 --> 00:09:01,080 Speaker 1: Um wait. And I wasn't even imagine, like you're tending. 151 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 1: I can just see yourself. I can see your young 152 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 1: self just playing this role and killing it. I just 153 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 1: have to say that I did win a Thesbian Award 154 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 1: for it, so you know, but I feel back to 155 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 1: Rohanran because Rohan bless the guys, he's a he's an 156 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 1: old friend from from high school and he was so 157 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 1: involved in in get acting and he was like the 158 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 1: star pupil and I was doing musical, but he would 159 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 1: do the plays, you know. And then I just one 160 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:27,719 Speaker 1: day after school, I was like, I think I'm I'm 161 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:29,960 Speaker 1: an audition for Captain Hook. It's a play though you know, 162 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:32,320 Speaker 1: I don't have the singing to like back me up. 163 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 1: And everybody thought Rohan was gonna get it. And I 164 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:40,440 Speaker 1: I stole it from Rohan as Mr Hook does. As 165 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 1: Mr Hook does, Where did you grow up? I grew 166 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 1: up in Carmel, Indiana, which is at which is a 167 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:06,599 Speaker 1: suburb of Indianapolis. Um, it's about twenty five minutes north. Um. 168 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 1: And now it's like basically Disney World. It's this little, 169 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:14,320 Speaker 1: like wild little town. And it used what used to 170 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:17,960 Speaker 1: be corn fields and like farmland has now blossomed. They 171 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 1: had this beautiful performing arts center over there and like 172 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 1: a huge arts district and it's like just a beautiful 173 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:28,800 Speaker 1: little suburb, you know. Um, that's where I grew up. 174 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 1: So I found my So I found my way in 175 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:33,199 Speaker 1: with the choir. So let's fast forward. So then I 176 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 1: went to the Bostonservatory. Okay, just casual foco, let's move on. 177 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 1: Graduated and moved to New York and I did the 178 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:46,840 Speaker 1: musical theater track, and I was really I was like 179 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:49,760 Speaker 1: in the ensemble and then like understudying and working a 180 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:53,200 Speaker 1: lot regionally. But I got this, I got bit by 181 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:55,360 Speaker 1: the bug of like, you know what, like I want 182 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:59,319 Speaker 1: to do Shakespeare. I feel like I need I feel 183 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:01,720 Speaker 1: like I want to be I don't want to just 184 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:05,320 Speaker 1: be doing the ensemble and I don't always want to 185 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:08,199 Speaker 1: be having to sing eight shows a week. In this 186 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:12,320 Speaker 1: demanding sounds like he wanted more tools. I wanted more tools. 187 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 1: I still had some stuff, you know, as a as 188 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 1: a Latin a actor in undergrad and you know, I 189 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 1: had a couple of professors that I am not too 190 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:26,560 Speaker 1: fond of. That kind of just made me feel like 191 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 1: I didn't have a place in classical theater. If we 192 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 1: if we don't have to like dive super deep, if 193 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 1: you don't, if that's not comfortable, But I think it's important. 194 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:36,800 Speaker 1: I think it's important. You know, I had a teacher 195 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 1: I won't mention their name. So we're working on Shakespeare 196 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 1: and I started and he cut me off, like on 197 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 1: the first line. I was like, you did. It's interesting, 198 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 1: you did city latinos doing the classics, and and then 199 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:54,600 Speaker 1: he was like interesting, isn't it. M hm, that's it? 200 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 1: And then he kind of just like brushed over me 201 00:11:57,840 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 1: and told me to sit down. And just essentially I 202 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 1: just felt like that wasn't for me, that wasn't for us, 203 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I never really even tried 204 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:12,680 Speaker 1: to do it, but then I saw I was um 205 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:15,320 Speaker 1: working at the old Globe on this great show The 206 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 1: Heart of Rock and Roll, which is about Huey Lewis 207 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:19,960 Speaker 1: and hue Lewis and the News musical. And I saw 208 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 1: Shakespeare on the stage and I saw people of color 209 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 1: doing Shakespeare, and I was like, I want to do 210 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:28,439 Speaker 1: I want to do that. That would be an incredible 211 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 1: thing to accomplish, To get to sink my teeth into 212 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 1: that kind of language that you know, and reclaim it 213 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 1: through my point of view, my perspective, my experience. I 214 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:41,959 Speaker 1: auditioned for for grad school I think a year out 215 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:46,560 Speaker 1: of my undergrad and I didn't get in, and but 216 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:48,400 Speaker 1: I got great feedback, and it was like, you know, 217 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:50,680 Speaker 1: go and get some more experience, your little green And 218 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 1: so I went and got a bunch of experience and had, 219 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:58,480 Speaker 1: you know, a great career before I went to school. Um, 220 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:00,600 Speaker 1: and then I just got that, I got the itch 221 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 1: again and I auditioned and I and I got into 222 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:06,200 Speaker 1: that the best program for me was was the Old 223 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 1: Globes program. And so for me it was about yes, 224 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 1: there's teaching. You know. Those are some some of the 225 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:17,720 Speaker 1: things you mentioned earlier, Darylyn, about people going because they 226 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:19,560 Speaker 1: want to teach, or people going because they're not really 227 00:13:19,559 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 1: getting success in the professional realm. And for me, it 228 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 1: wasn't that. For me, it was I was getting success, 229 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 1: but I found myself going kind of staying in one track, 230 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 1: which is like musical theater, um, jukebox musicals. And not 231 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:39,440 Speaker 1: to say that I don't love doing that. I just 232 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:41,840 Speaker 1: was like, I'm not getting any auditions for Shakespeare, and 233 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 1: if I am, I don't I feel ill equipped to 234 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:47,400 Speaker 1: a certain extent to be able to handle it. And 235 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 1: for me, I would always use this analogy where I 236 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 1: felt like I was grabbing at fireflies in the work, 237 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:55,599 Speaker 1: where like I would reach out and something when I 238 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:59,280 Speaker 1: would catch, when I'd be this, you know, incredible, awesome thing, 239 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:02,840 Speaker 1: and and the work would be fantastic. But then a 240 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 1: lot of the times I would, you know, kind of 241 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:07,199 Speaker 1: miss and I'd be like, I don't know what I'm 242 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:09,520 Speaker 1: I'm doing, And that's a beautiful thing. I think we 243 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:12,719 Speaker 1: should always kind of be like I don't really know 244 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 1: what I'm doing, because the infinite possibilities could come out 245 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:19,320 Speaker 1: of that. But I just wanted to feel like I 246 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 1: could have more to cling onto and more to build 247 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:26,800 Speaker 1: from and open myself up to a higher echelon and 248 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 1: have more options in terms of like because I want 249 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 1: to do it all. I want to do film, I 250 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 1: wanted to TV, I want to do I'm so in 251 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 1: love with Shakespeare right now and I and I still 252 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 1: don't know what the hell I'm doing at the time, 253 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:41,640 Speaker 1: but I go back to the text hour after hour 254 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 1: and just sink more and more into it and find 255 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 1: things that I can relate to in it. Um so, 256 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 1: you know. And I think that's a testament to how 257 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 1: powerful it is and it's lasted this long, and that 258 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 1: we can find new things within it and and bring, 259 00:14:56,280 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 1: you know, again, as a Latin Latin a man, bring 260 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 1: my own experiences to it. I love that. I mean, 261 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:05,000 Speaker 1: just going back to Boco for a hot second, because 262 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:07,160 Speaker 1: I think it's really important, just because I also think that, 263 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:11,000 Speaker 1: like many of many of us Latina people have experienced this, 264 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 1: whether or not even if you weren't an actor, right, 265 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:15,280 Speaker 1: let's say you don't. We've had so many other guests 266 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 1: here who've been chefs and politicians that you know Latina 267 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:24,760 Speaker 1: person doing that well, I've never I would have never interesting, right, 268 00:15:25,120 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 1: you know. And I just want to kind of like 269 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 1: even go further for you, because it's you know. I 270 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 1: mean you're about to start at the Public Theater um, 271 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:36,080 Speaker 1: and I'm just gonna say it. You can't get any 272 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 1: more like fuck you Boco than that. I mean you 273 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 1: are about to do Shakespeare in the Park at the Delicore. 274 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:48,640 Speaker 1: I mean you can't come on man, like, where's the 275 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 1: round of the clause? Oh? Because it's a dreamy man. 276 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 1: I literally am. I'm listening to you and I'm like 277 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 1: I want to cry because I'm like, I do we 278 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 1: because you know I you know that you know my 279 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 1: love for Shakespeare, and I studied in London and I'm obsessed. 280 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 1: And and you're working with Lorie Woolery, who directed dream 281 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:10,800 Speaker 1: House was a dream of herself and she's an amazing 282 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:13,680 Speaker 1: Latina woman that we hopefully have on the show. Um. 283 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 1: But I love hearing you speak and like hearing how 284 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:19,640 Speaker 1: this is all coming full circle to you, because it's like, yeah, 285 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 1: we don't know what the fuck we're doing. We don't, 286 00:16:23,400 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 1: but we're working towards something. And when you listen to 287 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:29,560 Speaker 1: that little thing in your mind and your voice, that 288 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 1: little voice in your head, and you're like, you know what, 289 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:33,680 Speaker 1: I'm going to do this again and look at where 290 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:38,320 Speaker 1: it's led you Shakespeare the part talk to us about that? 291 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, yeah for me, like it's so eat, 292 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:45,440 Speaker 1: I want to talk about that. Um. I obviously am 293 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:47,480 Speaker 1: so excited to do this. This has been a huge 294 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 1: dream of mine. And what I've realized in my life 295 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:53,040 Speaker 1: is and not not to say that I needed to 296 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:58,880 Speaker 1: switch my mentality less from like product orientation to process 297 00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 1: and loving the process, loving and like loving the craft, 298 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:05,119 Speaker 1: you know, because for so long I was like, I 299 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:07,000 Speaker 1: just gotta be I I need to be on Broadway 300 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:10,200 Speaker 1: and I don't care what it is, and I'll take anything, 301 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:13,240 Speaker 1: you know, And there's nothing wrong with that. That's obviously 302 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 1: like still there, it still exists that as a dream, 303 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:18,080 Speaker 1: you know. That's the child who went and saw that, 304 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 1: those those shows here everybody remembers their first Broadway show 305 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:25,080 Speaker 1: and there and and wanting to achieve that. But I 306 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:28,280 Speaker 1: switch my mentality more to like taste all the different 307 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:33,960 Speaker 1: like mediums of theater, you know. And as soon as 308 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:36,800 Speaker 1: I started doing that and sticking true to my gut 309 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:40,040 Speaker 1: in that way, and I accomplished this thing here that 310 00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:41,960 Speaker 1: I've wanted to do for for ten years. I've wanted 311 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:44,879 Speaker 1: to do. I remember, as people are like you know, 312 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:47,959 Speaker 1: that's that's where you do Shakespeare. The real Shakespeare actors 313 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 1: they work at the they work on the Delacourt and 314 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:52,560 Speaker 1: all these amazing names that have come through there, you know, 315 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:56,920 Speaker 1: Al Paccino and and Meryl Street and Raoul Julia, amazing 316 00:17:57,160 --> 00:18:02,080 Speaker 1: Latino actor God rest his soul um who have worked 317 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:05,159 Speaker 1: on that stage. And it happened a lot sooner than 318 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:08,240 Speaker 1: I thought, you know, like it happens so much sooner 319 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:10,000 Speaker 1: than I thought, because it was the right thing. You know. 320 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:14,880 Speaker 1: It's this beautiful adaptation um with with music and lyrics 321 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:18,600 Speaker 1: by Gina Tobb. And she just did stuff at the 322 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:21,680 Speaker 1: Public Bolory. She's she's amazing. I know you did Dream 323 00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 1: House with her, and I'm so happy that I got 324 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:25,320 Speaker 1: to see that as well. And that was before I 325 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:28,360 Speaker 1: even met you. But I was like, we love her 326 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:33,560 Speaker 1: so okay, I'm rambling. I'm going on a tangier No. No, 327 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 1: I think it's so important to hear your hear your 328 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 1: pure excitement for this show. I cannot wait. When does 329 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 1: it actually open? It opens on August tenth, and then 330 00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 1: it runs through uh September eleven. Um. Right now, we're 331 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:55,240 Speaker 1: in rehearsal. Started rehearsal was last week. I got to 332 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:59,680 Speaker 1: be a fly on the wall. Oh my gosh, yeah, yeah, yeah. 333 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:01,880 Speaker 1: It's an incredible group of people. So this is part 334 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:05,640 Speaker 1: of the Public Works, which is an incredible organization they 335 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:07,879 Speaker 1: have at the public I think this is the ten Theater, 336 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:15,360 Speaker 1: and they bring professional actors and community actors from all 337 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:18,359 Speaker 1: five bureaus of New York together, and we yesterday we 338 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:24,200 Speaker 1: went around and all introduced ourselves, and um, there's somebody 339 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:31,240 Speaker 1: represented from from all five and such a wonderfully diverse 340 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:34,919 Speaker 1: group of people. And you just seek passion for for 341 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 1: Shakespeare and for storytelling and for this story as you 342 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:40,359 Speaker 1: like it, which is so important right now, and a 343 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:44,600 Speaker 1: really powerful message within there. And and then Lorie Woolery 344 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 1: at the helm of it, she just has this huge heart, 345 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:50,200 Speaker 1: you know, like it's just you can see like her 346 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:53,399 Speaker 1: passion is for theater, but it's for people more than 347 00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:57,160 Speaker 1: anything else. And she just knows how to bring all 348 00:19:57,200 --> 00:20:00,600 Speaker 1: the best people together. I'm just so humbled and excited 349 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 1: and everybody should come and see it because it's just 350 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:09,919 Speaker 1: gonna be this beautiful, colorful, magical story And you're playing 351 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 1: I'm playing Touchstone, the clown Latin is in Love with Shakespeare? 352 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:18,640 Speaker 1: Oh my god, are we're gonna write a book called 353 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 1: Latin is in Love with Shakespeare? We should? We should, 354 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:25,080 Speaker 1: we should? We should get together to actually we need 355 00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:28,199 Speaker 1: to work on something together. Yeah, yeah, we should do 356 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 1: a comedy together. Like I'm thinking, like, like I don't know, 357 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:35,160 Speaker 1: maybe like Twelfth Night. Let's call Laurie. We'll figure this out. 358 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:49,679 Speaker 1: Let's she'll figure it out. She'll figure it out. I 359 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:52,359 Speaker 1: want to kind of like change gears for a second, 360 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:55,199 Speaker 1: because I know that there's something that you and I 361 00:20:55,240 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 1: have spoken about that you're also extremely passionate about. Um, 362 00:20:59,840 --> 00:21:02,879 Speaker 1: I should I shouldn't say passionate. I should say you 363 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:08,200 Speaker 1: have thoughts about because throughout our conversations of us getting 364 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:12,040 Speaker 1: to know each other recently, we have spoken about our 365 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 1: upbringings and being Methanis and obviously being in this community, 366 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:21,080 Speaker 1: but also like not within our own community. Language. And 367 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:24,520 Speaker 1: I switched over to language because I mean, Shakespeare's a language, 368 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:30,520 Speaker 1: and this episode is obviously about language. Um so switching 369 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:36,040 Speaker 1: from Shakespeare to Spanish. Um, what is your relationship to 370 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:39,440 Speaker 1: the language. It is a relationship, you know what I'm saying. 371 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:43,840 Speaker 1: It is a relationship. And and I don't. I'm not 372 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:46,600 Speaker 1: I'm not fluid, and so often it's a tumultuous thing 373 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:49,960 Speaker 1: because it's this, it's this odd thing. I shared a 374 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:52,960 Speaker 1: wall with my grand I'm Colombian, that's my background. In 375 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:58,480 Speaker 1: the late nineties, when my grandmother passed away, so I 376 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:01,120 Speaker 1: would do my dad's my columb me inside my dad's side. 377 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 1: My dad wanted to take care of his dad, so 378 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:08,640 Speaker 1: he so he moved my grandfather Malulo into our house 379 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 1: in Indiana, and they they immigrated from Colombia to uh 380 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:18,040 Speaker 1: Long Island to Bay Shore, Long Island, m in the sixties. 381 00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:24,199 Speaker 1: That's an amazing story. Um a long story, so I 382 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:27,960 Speaker 1: won't get into but basically, they immigrated in the sixties 383 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:32,680 Speaker 1: and and so with my dad settled us down in Indiana. 384 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:35,119 Speaker 1: He brought my grandfather and to take care of him 385 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 1: and gave him a room in his house that he built. 386 00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:40,080 Speaker 1: And so I shared a wall with my grandfather and 387 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:41,720 Speaker 1: I would go. I would hear my father and my 388 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:45,399 Speaker 1: grandfather talking in Spanish every morning. And the thing was, 389 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 1: you know, my grandfather would talk to us and we 390 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:51,919 Speaker 1: would try to talk back. The Spanish programs in school 391 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:57,080 Speaker 1: were kind of you know, in the Midwest especially, but 392 00:22:57,160 --> 00:22:59,920 Speaker 1: also so the reason why I say tumultuous is because 393 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:02,359 Speaker 1: and I wrote about in my thesis in grad school 394 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:06,720 Speaker 1: about this um You know, my father was bullied a 395 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 1: lot growing up on Long Island, and he was I 396 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:15,440 Speaker 1: mean back in the sixties when he was growing up, 397 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:18,160 Speaker 1: they didn't have the programs they have now, and so 398 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 1: he was held back. Twice. He was put in special 399 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:26,879 Speaker 1: education class because he didn't speak English, and he was 400 00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:29,919 Speaker 1: bullied and ridiculed, and they told him that he you know, 401 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 1: they called my my grandfather and said, you know, your 402 00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:35,920 Speaker 1: son has a super low i Q, which wasn't the case. 403 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:39,080 Speaker 1: He just didn't know how to He didn't know what 404 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:42,200 Speaker 1: the questions were in English on the i Q test. 405 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:44,720 Speaker 1: So I think all of that took a toll in 406 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:47,520 Speaker 1: my dad, and he wanted to do and I don't 407 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:50,600 Speaker 1: blame him, you know, he wanted to assimilate my, my 408 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:54,920 Speaker 1: sister and I into whiteness the most he could and 409 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:59,280 Speaker 1: americanize us too, you know, English to the best he 410 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 1: could in Indian so that we could fit in and 411 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:03,800 Speaker 1: we could have we wouldn't go through the things that 412 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 1: he went through growing up. And so he made the 413 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 1: choice and not really talk to us in Spanish, and 414 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 1: so I do have a relationship to when I hear 415 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:17,800 Speaker 1: people speak Spanish, whenever I throw in little Spanish words 416 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:20,119 Speaker 1: here and there. I talked to my grandfather as and 417 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:22,840 Speaker 1: it's difficult, you know, because I struggle to repeat things. 418 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:26,000 Speaker 1: I have to ask him to repeat things. But it's 419 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:32,000 Speaker 1: this beautiful negotiation of like identity, you know, because it's 420 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:33,840 Speaker 1: been an identity crisis thing. You know. I feel like 421 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:36,240 Speaker 1: the first eighteen years of my life growing up in Indiana, 422 00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:39,440 Speaker 1: being a minority there in in in a school full 423 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 1: of four kids, high school kids, and there was like 424 00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:49,439 Speaker 1: twenty Latino people there. I just I just felt like 425 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:52,320 Speaker 1: a huge part of my culture. I don't want to 426 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:55,960 Speaker 1: say that though, because at home, like my grandfather would 427 00:24:56,000 --> 00:25:02,840 Speaker 1: cook you know, uh some coacho and and like dotes 428 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 1: and like all of these you know, Colombian dishes and 429 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:08,159 Speaker 1: my father would too, and so like I feel like 430 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:10,440 Speaker 1: a huge part of our cuisine was like very much 431 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:16,600 Speaker 1: you know, Colombian, and the influence from from our background 432 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:21,800 Speaker 1: and our heritage from home. Um. Yeah, language was always 433 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 1: was always a struggle, and it wasn't until I went 434 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:26,640 Speaker 1: to to undergrad and I was in a room full 435 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:28,720 Speaker 1: of like a lot of these you know, classmates and 436 00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:33,720 Speaker 1: friends of mine who were from Miami, who were fluent 437 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:39,200 Speaker 1: and so in touch with their culture that I started 438 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:41,680 Speaker 1: to try to dig in and learn more than I 439 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:45,360 Speaker 1: am on that journey now of trying to trying to 440 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:49,199 Speaker 1: to learn the language. Um And it's a slow and 441 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:53,640 Speaker 1: steady practice, you know, Yeah, as you're speaking, I never 442 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:56,919 Speaker 1: really thought about, like, and maybe this is just my 443 00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:59,359 Speaker 1: privilege of like being a New Yorker, Dominican new Yorker 444 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:01,560 Speaker 1: who like, you know, obviously, I go to Washington Heights 445 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:04,520 Speaker 1: and there's thousands of us, and then you know, I 446 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:07,639 Speaker 1: grew up upstate where there was like five of us, 447 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:10,720 Speaker 1: and you know, so I was able to see beyond 448 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:13,800 Speaker 1: where I grew up and understand that if I just 449 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:16,200 Speaker 1: go to my backyard, there's a whole world of us. 450 00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:20,359 Speaker 1: And I never realized that privilege until you're you're speaking now, 451 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:24,560 Speaker 1: because I feel like if I didn't have that, I 452 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:29,159 Speaker 1: wouldn't be fluent in Spanish. I probably would. Um. You know, 453 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:33,080 Speaker 1: my mother, um is it got her doctorate in English 454 00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:36,800 Speaker 1: education as a as a like I think, and that 455 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:40,240 Speaker 1: was her like way of being like, you know, I 456 00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:42,840 Speaker 1: came to this country at fourteen, I didn't speak the language. 457 00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:44,560 Speaker 1: I'm going to master it. That's just my mom, that's 458 00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:48,560 Speaker 1: who she is, um. But it's like, and I also remember, 459 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:51,119 Speaker 1: you know, I spoke a little Spanish at home, you know, 460 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:54,120 Speaker 1: and that and that, but it wasn't until I went 461 00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:56,520 Speaker 1: to I begged my mom to let me go to 462 00:26:56,560 --> 00:27:00,640 Speaker 1: Costa Rica in high school as an exchange student because 463 00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:02,960 Speaker 1: I really just wanted to be immersed. And I was like, 464 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:05,080 Speaker 1: I don't want to know little. I want to learn more, 465 00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:06,679 Speaker 1: and I want to go to the heights and be 466 00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:08,520 Speaker 1: able to talk to my grandmother and this and that, 467 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:10,360 Speaker 1: and be able to talk to my friends that I've 468 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:13,639 Speaker 1: met who are coming from d R. And so I 469 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:17,879 Speaker 1: feel like I just closely also relate to like and 470 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:19,960 Speaker 1: I think there's something and the reason why we both 471 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:23,000 Speaker 1: love Shakespeare so much. I think like we both love language, 472 00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:25,359 Speaker 1: and that's why I wanted to like touch based on 473 00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:29,040 Speaker 1: Spanish because I know when we first met. That's my 474 00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:31,760 Speaker 1: other thing too that I'm working on. I'm like, Daryln, 475 00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 1: don't be assuming everybody out here speak Spanish. But because 476 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:38,720 Speaker 1: I remember I literally spoke like full on sentences to 477 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:44,879 Speaker 1: you and you were like, um hey, and I was 478 00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:47,560 Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, I'm so sorry. I 479 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:51,040 Speaker 1: totally assumed and like, uh, I mean and I was 480 00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:53,320 Speaker 1: like Darylyn, like, you know, not everybody has that same 481 00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:56,480 Speaker 1: that is not there on their different journey with the language. 482 00:27:56,720 --> 00:28:00,000 Speaker 1: Um well, simultaneously though not everybody. I will sit there 483 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:02,720 Speaker 1: and be like no, no, no, no, slow it down, 484 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:05,800 Speaker 1: you know, and repeat what you said. But at the 485 00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:08,719 Speaker 1: same time, on my end, I can't assume that every 486 00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:11,840 Speaker 1: Spanish speaker is going to want to take the time 487 00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:15,639 Speaker 1: to break to break it down, nor should they have to. Um, 488 00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:18,600 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But I also feel like 489 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:21,879 Speaker 1: it's my duty too. Well if you want to that, 490 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,560 Speaker 1: that's just free Spanish lessons for me, and I'm down 491 00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:26,080 Speaker 1: to do that and I'm down to talk to you 492 00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:28,280 Speaker 1: any day. So listen, we gotta we gotta all be 493 00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:30,359 Speaker 1: there for each other. And I just think that, like, 494 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:34,200 Speaker 1: I don't know, there's something really fascinating that us as 495 00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 1: both Americanized Latino young people in this world moving around, 496 00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:44,640 Speaker 1: Like I just related so much to you, I still 497 00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:47,480 Speaker 1: get nervous speaking Spanish, even if I feel like I'm 498 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:49,560 Speaker 1: fluent or people like no, you're fluent. You're fluent. I'm like, 499 00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:53,000 Speaker 1: sometimes I get a little grammar thing, you know. Sometimes 500 00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:55,480 Speaker 1: I'm not. You know, sometimes my writing Listen, writing and 501 00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:59,240 Speaker 1: speaking is a whole different thing. So sometimes my writing 502 00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:02,560 Speaker 1: is not that strong. But there's this like disconnect that 503 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:08,320 Speaker 1: we as Americanized young Latino people have been and there's 504 00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:10,920 Speaker 1: something that's been instilled in us, you know, even my mother. 505 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:13,440 Speaker 1: I think about my mother, I'm like, she came to 506 00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:15,160 Speaker 1: American and she was like, I'm going to get the 507 00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:18,760 Speaker 1: biggest degree you can get in English literature and and 508 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:21,560 Speaker 1: know everything in English. Like well, I mean, it's like 509 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:25,040 Speaker 1: that aspirational immigrant mentality of like, if people are going 510 00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:28,320 Speaker 1: to give me the respect, you know, I'm gonna excel 511 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:32,000 Speaker 1: and do the best, achieve the highest level of the thing, 512 00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:36,000 Speaker 1: because then I've proven to myself and proven to everybody else. 513 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:37,560 Speaker 1: Even though why do we have to do that? You 514 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:39,960 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I definitely saw that with my dad. 515 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:42,160 Speaker 1: My dad, you know, he wanted he went to school 516 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:45,480 Speaker 1: for for business and computer sciences, and he wanted to 517 00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:47,840 Speaker 1: own a business, and he wanted to buy a big house, 518 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:51,760 Speaker 1: and he wanted to have, you know, all of the 519 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:55,640 Speaker 1: the American dream. You know, he wanted to achieve that 520 00:29:56,560 --> 00:30:00,520 Speaker 1: and for himself, but you know a little bit so 521 00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:05,000 Speaker 1: he I think I could have that acceptance. Yeah, absolutely, 522 00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:09,160 Speaker 1: you know, as the as the outsider. Interesting how these 523 00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:12,520 Speaker 1: these things are passed on generationally, because that was a 524 00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:14,360 Speaker 1: huge thing for me too. I was like, I shouldn't 525 00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:17,160 Speaker 1: have to prove I shouldn't we shouldn't have to prove anything, 526 00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:20,040 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Um, But there was something 527 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:22,880 Speaker 1: inside of me that was like I need to prove 528 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:26,520 Speaker 1: to myself maybe. And it's not the piece of paper, agree, 529 00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:28,640 Speaker 1: it's all of the struggles and everything that happened in 530 00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:31,840 Speaker 1: your process towards that. That's just this reminder, that's just 531 00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:35,520 Speaker 1: this maybe like a maybe that maybe I look at 532 00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:37,520 Speaker 1: my degree is sort of just like a It's like 533 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:40,840 Speaker 1: a giant you ever write like words of aspiration, not 534 00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:43,920 Speaker 1: affirmation like a post it note. It's like I am 535 00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:45,360 Speaker 1: enough and you put it on your on your mirr 536 00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:49,080 Speaker 1: or whatever. So for me, my degree is just a 537 00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:53,200 Speaker 1: giant word of affirmation, you know. And so I wonder 538 00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:56,920 Speaker 1: if if you're if your mother you can relate to that. 539 00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:00,600 Speaker 1: You know, you bet that degree is sitting right in 540 00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:04,360 Speaker 1: the house when you watch it, it's proud. It's gym 541 00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:07,880 Speaker 1: prize possession. Yet and I also and also I think 542 00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:11,280 Speaker 1: as as as their children, we both wear I wear 543 00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:14,200 Speaker 1: that pride for pridefully as well, you know, like look 544 00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:16,840 Speaker 1: at what my mom's accomplished. And then it's like, you know, 545 00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:20,480 Speaker 1: obviously we are doing it in our own way as well. 546 00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:24,040 Speaker 1: It's it's it's wild to see generational I don't want 547 00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:28,080 Speaker 1: to call a generational trauma. It's a better word for it, Chris, 548 00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:33,480 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. Generational people would say that, but you 549 00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:37,320 Speaker 1: know what I call it intergenerational anxiety. That's what I 550 00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:42,920 Speaker 1: would intergenerational anxiety. People would say like that the trauma 551 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:44,440 Speaker 1: has passed out. But I don't want to say like 552 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:49,000 Speaker 1: trauma because you know, anxiety is something that a lot 553 00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:50,680 Speaker 1: of us deal with on a on a day to 554 00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:55,280 Speaker 1: day thing, but for me, it's also like an energy 555 00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:58,240 Speaker 1: and fuel and it's something that I just have to 556 00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:03,680 Speaker 1: record with and deal with and overcome m But because 557 00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:06,200 Speaker 1: of it, I don't know if I would have achieved 558 00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:10,920 Speaker 1: all these things if if I hadn't had those traumatic 559 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:17,600 Speaker 1: or or experiences or dealt with these anxieties. We're seeing 560 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:21,000 Speaker 1: my father's you know, his journey and learn from that 561 00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:24,760 Speaker 1: and experience. So that's what I call it. I don't 562 00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:26,960 Speaker 1: know if like I love that. No, I love that 563 00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:30,960 Speaker 1: scientists are like scholars. Someone's listening to that and they're like, obviously, 564 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:34,960 Speaker 1: people don't know what's that. It's not called that, okay. 565 00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:38,760 Speaker 1: But what I love about whatever it is that, whatever 566 00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:41,360 Speaker 1: it is that the scholars call it is what you 567 00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:45,080 Speaker 1: and I have done and are doing with it, especially 568 00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:49,240 Speaker 1: listening to your story. And you ny about to take 569 00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:54,600 Speaker 1: the stage to kill this production. And everybody, if you're 570 00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:59,560 Speaker 1: in the city, go catch Christopher M. Ramdaz and as 571 00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:03,040 Speaker 1: you like, get at the delicate Little Court Theater. He's 572 00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:05,120 Speaker 1: about he's about to kill it. I can't wait to 573 00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:09,640 Speaker 1: come and route you on. This is the moment of 574 00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:14,040 Speaker 1: mor Anita that everyone's been waiting for, because we got 575 00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:20,320 Speaker 1: some questions for you, some really special questions. Are you ready? Okay? Yes? Please? 576 00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:23,560 Speaker 1: Yespeak yes? Well, I have to I have to ask 577 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:28,480 Speaker 1: what is your favorite Shakespeare play. That's hard. I'm gonna 578 00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:30,360 Speaker 1: have to say. I'm gonna have to say Twelve Night 579 00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:34,600 Speaker 1: because it was it was the play that introduced me 580 00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:36,440 Speaker 1: to and I feel like that's like everybody is, you know, 581 00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:40,600 Speaker 1: but it's the one I did a Shakespeare camp that 582 00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:44,920 Speaker 1: my my aunt and uncle enrolled, my sister and I 583 00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:47,480 Speaker 1: end when I was like eight years old, and that 584 00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:49,400 Speaker 1: was my and I played Sir Toby. We did like 585 00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:54,240 Speaker 1: a miniature, yes selections, but junior junior version. Yeah. And 586 00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:55,560 Speaker 1: so I have to say, like, I don't know if 587 00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:58,600 Speaker 1: I would even be here if it wasn't for that place. 588 00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:00,200 Speaker 1: So I'm going to say I'm gonna say twelve of mine. 589 00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:01,920 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say twelve. It was the first play that 590 00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:04,680 Speaker 1: I did in grad school. It was the first full 591 00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:07,520 Speaker 1: fled Shakespeare play that I did it in an entirety. 592 00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:09,640 Speaker 1: So I'm going to say twelfth Night. Okay, I love 593 00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:12,000 Speaker 1: that for you. But but but I also would say 594 00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:14,960 Speaker 1: my favorite Shacker play is the one that I would 595 00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:17,160 Speaker 1: say my favorite Shakespeare play is the one I'm currently 596 00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:20,440 Speaker 1: working on, of course, but I'm gonna say my favorite 597 00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:25,600 Speaker 1: Shakespeare character, we go. My favorite Shakespeare character is Iago 598 00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:29,560 Speaker 1: because I try to. I think it's a wonderful exploration 599 00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:37,759 Speaker 1: in like why villainous people do what they do what 600 00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:42,400 Speaker 1: they do. They're hurting, yes, they're they're hurting. It doesn't. 601 00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:45,640 Speaker 1: It doesn't, it doesn't absolve and it doesn't like justify them. 602 00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:49,279 Speaker 1: But he's hurting. It's such a great character, such a 603 00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:53,000 Speaker 1: great role. I mean, oh my gosh, such an intense journey. Okay. 604 00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:56,640 Speaker 1: Second question, if you could switch the lead character of 605 00:34:56,680 --> 00:35:00,120 Speaker 1: a movie into a different film, who would it be 606 00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:03,160 Speaker 1: and into what film? I'm gonna have to do some 607 00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:07,040 Speaker 1: math here. Okay. So if I could switch a lead 608 00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:13,200 Speaker 1: character from any film, from any movie into a different movie, 609 00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:16,640 Speaker 1: so he's there, they are still playing the lead in 610 00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:21,400 Speaker 1: another movie, who would it be an into what film? 611 00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:24,839 Speaker 1: This is an intense question. Okay, I got it, I 612 00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:32,000 Speaker 1: got it. Hannibal Lecter Okay, into like best in Show, 613 00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:38,440 Speaker 1: like mockumentary, Okay, which character in that? Like any Christopher 614 00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:41,480 Speaker 1: Guest movie? But like best and show like a dog show, 615 00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:45,400 Speaker 1: Hannibal Lector at a dog show being like ladies, I 616 00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:52,480 Speaker 1: love my pooches name. I think I think you have 617 00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:56,640 Speaker 1: something here. I think you have something here that's rich. 618 00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:01,480 Speaker 1: You are a clown, indeed, a clown indeed. Okay. Third 619 00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:06,239 Speaker 1: and last question, Okay, what have you seen or read 620 00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:10,360 Speaker 1: lately that you'd recommend to our listeners? Um, I'm gonna 621 00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:12,160 Speaker 1: do two things because they actually this is thank you 622 00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:15,640 Speaker 1: for asking this question. It really, Um, Peaky Blinders is 623 00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:19,759 Speaker 1: the TV show, of course. Yeah. I just I got 624 00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:24,359 Speaker 1: COVID recently, so I binged Peky Blinders. I just I 625 00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:29,160 Speaker 1: just love sort of like there's wit and humor, but 626 00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:32,400 Speaker 1: like it's dark and it's like I'm rooting for the 627 00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:35,600 Speaker 1: bad guys. You know what I'm saying. Yes, And they 628 00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:38,120 Speaker 1: also like use language except I'm going to say the 629 00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:45,839 Speaker 1: language in the script, the cinematography or like everything about beautiful. Um. 630 00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:47,920 Speaker 1: It also it's dangerous though, because it makes me want 631 00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:49,320 Speaker 1: to sit there and like light up a cigarette and 632 00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:53,080 Speaker 1: drink and drink all day. Chris, you're invited over going 633 00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:55,759 Speaker 1: to Blinders the next Oh, the movie. The movie's coming 634 00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:59,759 Speaker 1: out next. Did you know that there's a Chris so 635 00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:06,400 Speaker 1: exited the next level of movie? And because of because 636 00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:10,520 Speaker 1: of piggy Lins in the sixth season. I don't think 637 00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:14,680 Speaker 1: I'm giving away any anything away by saying this spoiler 638 00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:22,400 Speaker 1: alert if anything, but Tommy does a he delivers a 639 00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:26,600 Speaker 1: poem and I think it's in the first episode to 640 00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:28,520 Speaker 1: like a group of people that are there and it's 641 00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:33,600 Speaker 1: called the Poison Tree by William Blake. And it's just 642 00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:37,680 Speaker 1: a really really beautiful poem. But William Blake. I've been 643 00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:41,560 Speaker 1: reading William Blake poems a little bit every day. I 644 00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:46,440 Speaker 1: love that. That was my favorite question questionnaire moment of 645 00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:50,080 Speaker 1: Morranita so far. That was so good. That just hit home. 646 00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:54,279 Speaker 1: Chris Good, thank you so much for coming on here 647 00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:57,839 Speaker 1: and for like sharing the love of language with us 648 00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:01,040 Speaker 1: and like just really hits you. I feel like we 649 00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:05,440 Speaker 1: have I'm so gladly connected finally in this universe. I 650 00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:09,360 Speaker 1: think the universe works in miraculous and crazy ways. So 651 00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:13,800 Speaker 1: um so grateful that our paths have crossed and continued across. 652 00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:17,640 Speaker 1: Thank you for you have such an incredible spirit. Uh 653 00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:22,799 Speaker 1: Darylyn I I it's just magnetic electric. I'm so glad 654 00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:24,560 Speaker 1: that you have this podcast. Thank you for having me 655 00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:26,960 Speaker 1: on it. I'm not gonnae I get a little nervous 656 00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:28,840 Speaker 1: on these things, but you made me feel so welcome 657 00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:31,600 Speaker 1: and comfortable. And I thank you for letting me come 658 00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:34,360 Speaker 1: on here and just ramble about love and what I 659 00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:36,920 Speaker 1: love to do. And yes, if we want to follow 660 00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:40,160 Speaker 1: you and like continue following your journey, where do our 661 00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:43,440 Speaker 1: listeners tap in? How do we find you? What's the plug? 662 00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:49,799 Speaker 1: Um it's on Instagram, which as he as he as 663 00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:56,480 Speaker 1: he's finding it's see underscore ram brother man is it 664 00:38:56,560 --> 00:39:01,160 Speaker 1: brother with an a or brother? Are? Oh th h 665 00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:04,239 Speaker 1: A M A N. I'm gonna have you spell the 666 00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:09,759 Speaker 1: whole thing out, Okay see underscore r A M B 667 00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:15,200 Speaker 1: R O t H A M A N. And maybe 668 00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:19,080 Speaker 1: I need a new social public on social media guru 669 00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:23,399 Speaker 1: out there who you know. We'll have opinions about that, 670 00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:27,120 Speaker 1: but I love this. I love this. Everybody go follow Chris. 671 00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:29,719 Speaker 1: He's amazing, He's incredible. Go find him and as you 672 00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:32,960 Speaker 1: like it at Delacore Stage, um, Shakespeare in the Park 673 00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:35,680 Speaker 1: this summer. It's going to be incredible. We cannot wait 674 00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:37,719 Speaker 1: to see you and support you so much. Love Chris, 675 00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:40,640 Speaker 1: thanks for coming on what Anita? Thank you so much, Darren, 676 00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:42,080 Speaker 1: I thank you for having it. This has been such 677 00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:48,600 Speaker 1: a pleasure. Mon Anita is a production of Sono in 678 00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:52,480 Speaker 1: partnership with I Heart Radios Michael Guda podcast Network. For 679 00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:55,399 Speaker 1: more podcast from I Heart Radio, visit the I Heart 680 00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:58,600 Speaker 1: Radio app, Apple podcast, or wherever you listen to your 681 00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:02,399 Speaker 1: favorite shows. Well then se