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Speaker 2: To the fifteen of the ten ber He's gonna score touchdown.

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Speaker 2: Slam to the ground by fooda Baker like a torpedo.

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Speaker 2: Here we go, one hand to catch it a touchdown?

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Speaker 1: Oh baby, how's that film? Here's Craiggriolu, Paul Calvic and

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Speaker 1: three time pro bowler Kyle Vandenbosch.

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Speaker 3: T minus sixteen days. Gentlemen, we are getting closer, and

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Speaker 3: I say, thankfully, we are getting closer to the twenty

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Speaker 3: twenty four NFL Draft. Don't know about either one of you.

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Speaker 3: With Paul, I am basically in mock draft fatigue at

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Speaker 3: this moment.

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Speaker 4: Oh no.

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Speaker 3: Now, we still have two weeks to go, and I'll

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Speaker 3: still look and I'll still dissect, but I'm getting that

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Speaker 3: point where I just want that Draft. I want Commissioner

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Speaker 3: Roger Guel to take the stage and say, the Arizona

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Speaker 3: Cardinals are on the clock.

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Speaker 5: You're sick of the mock drafts. You're ready for the

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Speaker 5: real draft, and I'm here to say no, give more.

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Speaker 4: Please.

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Speaker 5: I want more mock drafts. I want more insanity. I

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Speaker 5: want more speculation. I want the price to continue to

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Speaker 5: go up and up through the stratosphere. I want more

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Speaker 5: teams interested in number four for the franchise quarterback. I

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Speaker 5: just want the prospect of more teams vying for it

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Speaker 5: and once again having to pay for it, and setting

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Speaker 5: the Cardinals up for the next decade.

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Speaker 3: There are a million mock drafts, and I don't think

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Speaker 3: that's hyperbole at all. I do think that there are

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Speaker 3: a million mock drafts out there, and it's changed a

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Speaker 3: little bit, Kyle since you were playing. How much do

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Speaker 3: players pay attention to the mock draft and even care

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Speaker 3: about where they might hear their name called?

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Speaker 4: They do? I think, honestly, I think it affects players,

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Speaker 4: you know where they're projected. I think it hurts players

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Speaker 4: when you know we've all seen those players in the

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Speaker 4: draft room waiting for their name to be called expecting

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Speaker 4: to be a top five, top ten pick, being a

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Speaker 4: part of that draft day slide and the disappointment in

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Speaker 4: their face. And then you can see the elation of

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Speaker 4: other players who are picked higher than expected, and you

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Speaker 4: know it's it's it's all projection, and all it takes

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Speaker 4: is one team to fall in love with the player

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Speaker 4: for one reason or another. And it's but but players

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Speaker 4: do pay attention, and agents are telling them one thing,

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Speaker 4: teams are telling them another thing, their family are telling

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Speaker 4: them something. The internet, some random guy on reddits telling

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Speaker 4: as much as we are ready for this thing to

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Speaker 4: get over with, I got to imagine all these draft

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Speaker 4: know at this point when I was waiting around for

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Speaker 4: I was going to go. You know, you want to

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Speaker 4: it seems like forever you've been working for this moment,

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Speaker 4: your entire life. Really, to me, it didn't matter where

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Speaker 4: I wanted to move forward. I wanted to get my

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Speaker 4: just you're kind of left in limbo, not knowing where

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Speaker 5: Lion's Pro Bowl receiver a'mon Ross Saint Brown was taken

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Speaker 4: Yes.

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Speaker 5: They pay attention and they know exactly who went and

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Speaker 3: Only thirty two first round selections, but the noise makes

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Speaker 3: your point, Kyle, not everyone is going to hear their

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Speaker 3: that player that sits in the green room? Allah, Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 3: As pick after pick after pick is selected and you're

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Speaker 6: There's a lot of little detail work that needs to

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Speaker 6: that's being done on your front board shouldn't really exist.

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Speaker 6: The top players you should know exactly where they're at.

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Speaker 6: You're just doing a little bit of clean up work

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Speaker 6: The other thing is this you're thinking about strategy. There's

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Speaker 6: So you're spending a lot of time on the phone

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Speaker 3: Strategy Kyle in the terms of Okay, if this happens,

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Speaker 3: we've heard Manti Austin Ford say that he doesn't really

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Speaker 3: pay attention to mock drafts, but teams, I believe do

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Speaker 4: things have to still happen. And then there's also, you know,

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Speaker 4: one of the things that problem more than ever with

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Speaker 4: the immense amount of trades that could possibly happen or

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Speaker 4: it could not happen. And those don't happen on draft day.

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Speaker 4: The parameters of these trades largely happen. Now these are

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Speaker 4: know that deal we talked about it? Are you still

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Speaker 4: good with that? You know, that deal we talked about,

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Speaker 4: we need a little bit more. So those parameters happened

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Speaker 3: By the way, in the break, Kyle, I asked some

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Speaker 3: pictures of poly solar eclipse Monday's events.

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Speaker 5: You know what, no regrets, right, if you're Maniasi Fort,

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Speaker 5: no regrets. You got to do all your homework like me.

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Speaker 5: I actually have regrets from yesterday. I should have gone

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Speaker 5: to Dallas. The last total solar eclipse was in eighteen

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Speaker 5: be twenty three forty five. I mean that's the sort

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Speaker 5: You're absolutely right. So if you're Mani Austin Fort, you

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Speaker 5: don't know where you're gonna draft. You have Marvin Harrison

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Speaker 5: If you do a deal with the Vikings, no regrets,

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Speaker 5: do all your homework. According reports on Tuesday, today, Texas

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Speaker 5: So you don't know. And now the question is okay

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Speaker 5: if you do move off of number four field Yates

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Speaker 5: in his latest two round malk said, hey, it's too

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Speaker 3: You take Marvin Harrison Junior. Well, does that what many

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Speaker 3: Austin fort believe because of the card do decide to

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Speaker 3: move down? What's the cost, especially if it's maybe the

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Speaker 3: Minnesota Vikings at number eleven. Here's former GM Rix Bilman

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Speaker 3: on the thirty thirdeam on what the Vikings might need

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Speaker 3: to move up to number four.

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Speaker 7: If you are interested and really interested in coming up

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Speaker 7: and get your quarterback Minnesota Vikings.

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Speaker 4: I will take the two.

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Speaker 7: Ones for you to get up there, and I have

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Speaker 7: to have a one next year because you don't have

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Speaker 7: a two this year. So I'm going to have to

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Speaker 7: get the one next year. But I am willing to

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Speaker 7: forfeit that for Justin Jefferson.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I would strongly consider a Pro Bowl, All Pro

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Speaker 3: twenty four year old wide receiver in lieu of a

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Speaker 3: future first round pick. But that's just me, Paul.

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Speaker 5: What's his age again?

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Speaker 4: You looked it up.

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Speaker 3: How old it be twenty five at the start of

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Speaker 3: this upcoming season.

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Speaker 4: Sign me up.

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Speaker 5: I know it's going to cost you a lot of money,

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Speaker 5: but guess what receivers cost a lot of cash. If

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Speaker 5: you're to get Justin Jefferson and he's proven, and you're

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Speaker 5: to worry about a potential bust in the top five

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Speaker 5: for all the accolades around Marvin Harrison Junior and Roma

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Speaker 5: Dunza and Malik Neighbors, there's been a lot of busts

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Speaker 5: I just think it's the deepest position group in this draft,

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Speaker 4: By the way, with Xavier.

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Speaker 3: Sup Report on the Arizona Cardinals Radio Network, Quick sec.

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Speaker 8: Quick brow batter at the line of scrimmage, and that

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Speaker 9: He's the one guy in the room has got the

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Speaker 3: Highly recommend last week's Big Red Rage and the interview

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Speaker 5: There's a reason he's a former first round pick. He's

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Speaker 4: Christian Wilkins.

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Speaker 5: Think of coach Lebron and what he did from week

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Speaker 5: one to week eighteen. Think of his three starters. In

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Speaker 5: week one he had guys like LJ. Coller and Carlos

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Speaker 5: Watkins and Jonathan Ledbetter And by week eighteen he had

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Speaker 5: Phil Hoskins and Nae Kwon Jones and Roy Lopez and

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Speaker 5: Ben Stilly guys off the practice squads. So I don't

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Speaker 5: know who exactly was the most productive or the most

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Speaker 5: challenged position coach last year, but considering all the injuries,

447
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Speaker 5: is the D and D line stood for devastated and decimated.

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Speaker 5: Coach Lebron definitely earned his paycheck last year and coaching

449
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Speaker 5: up that group. Dante still has played a lot more

450
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Speaker 5: than he anticipated as a rookie coming out of West

451
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Speaker 5: Virginia and speaking players coming out of college defensive line

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Speaker 5: do the Cardinals ad coming up later this month to

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Speaker 5: that room. One more from coach Lebron on what he

454
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Speaker 5: looks for in a college d lineman.

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Speaker 4: You always look for.

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Speaker 9: The measurables, right height, weight on length, all that good stuff.

457
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Speaker 9: But I think a D lineman has to have a

458
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Speaker 9: toughness about him. You know, there's a lot of good looking,

459
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Speaker 9: pretty ones out there that don't like sticking their face

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Speaker 9: in it. A guy that's willing to bite and put

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Speaker 9: his face in it and be physical. That's number one.

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Speaker 9: You can't play the position if you're not tough and

463
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Speaker 9: physical going to this draft, man, that's what we're looking for.

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Speaker 3: Lebln also mentioned that football is a man's game.

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Speaker 9: Quote.

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Speaker 3: You have to be a big, physical, you know what

467
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Speaker 3: to play that position. So I think we've already heard

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Speaker 3: several different sound bites, whether it was from Nichols or

469
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Speaker 3: Jones Kyle about just their mentality that they play with

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Speaker 3: and the mentality that they want to bring to that

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Speaker 3: Cardinals D line room.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. To to me, I love it, That's that's what

473
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Speaker 4: D line. I love the interview. I love hearing him talk.

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Speaker 4: I wish Paulie didn't ask him so many questions about

475
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Speaker 4: crawfish and and just I mean, there's no better interview

476
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Speaker 4: than interviewing a D line coach. And all Paulie wanted

477
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Speaker 4: to talk about was how he wanted his crawfish. But

478
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Speaker 4: and no, it was great and and it's look again.

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Speaker 4: This is why there's so many misses in the first round,

480
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Speaker 4: second round of an NFL draft, because everybody gets enamored

481
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Speaker 4: with what a forty time is? Is how long of

482
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Speaker 4: a reach does a guy have, or they look at

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Speaker 4: a guy's you know, highlight tape. But to me, what

484
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Speaker 4: what what do you get from a guy on play sixty?

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Speaker 4: What what do you get from a guy on you know,

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Speaker 4: the eighth play of a two minute drive? What do

487
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Speaker 4: you get when it's overtime? Is a guy digging deep?

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Speaker 4: What do you uh is a guy willing to stick

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Speaker 4: his face in there? When a guard, a three hundred

490
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Speaker 4: and forty pound guard is pulling and running straight at him,

491
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Speaker 4: is he willing to sacrifice his body for the benefit

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Speaker 4: of his team? And that Those are the things that

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Speaker 4: very few defensive linemen will do over and over and over.

494
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Speaker 4: But those are the defensive linemen that will win you games.

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Speaker 4: Everybody thinks they want the defensive lineman that's gonna get

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Speaker 4: them fourteen sacks a season, But the defensive lineman that

497
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Speaker 4: gives one hundred percent effort play after play after play

498
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Speaker 4: are the ones that are gonna win you the games

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Speaker 4: and get you to the playoffs at the end of

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Speaker 4: the season.

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Speaker 5: First off, coach leblond, It's not like he's from Manhattan, Okay,

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Speaker 5: He's from the crawfish capital of the world. Hence was

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Speaker 5: a legitimate question. Number two, do you think if you

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Speaker 5: if you took all the film of all the NFL

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Speaker 5: defensive lineman who free agency and Manias sports, said Kyle Vannenbosch,

506
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Speaker 5: tell me who's tough and who isn't? Can you make

507
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Speaker 5: a pretty decisive decision and feel confident about that just

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Speaker 5: based on their film, their game film.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely. And the way you find is like, if the

510
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Speaker 4: team is down by two touchdowns, how is that player playing?

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Speaker 4: If your team is up by two scores, how's that

512
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Speaker 4: player playing? Because that's what the player is made out of.

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Speaker 4: It's when you don't have to If there is a

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Speaker 4: pass thirty yards downfield and the player is out of

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Speaker 4: the screen, what is he doing. Does he just stop

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Speaker 4: and watch or is he gonna pursue like he's he

517
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Speaker 4: might make the play. He might make that play one

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Speaker 4: out of one hundred times, but that one hundred time

519
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Speaker 4: might save the game. You know, those are the players

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Speaker 4: you want in your locker room.

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Speaker 5: Is he pursuing the play like Chase Young did in

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Speaker 5: the postseason, or is he pursuing the play with his

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Speaker 5: hair on fire like Dennis Gardak?

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Speaker 3: Right, exactly how many times have we said it? Film

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Speaker 3: doesn't lie? And those last games a year ago for

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Speaker 3: the Cardinals, those final four games, who's putting forth the

527
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Speaker 3: full sixty minutes and who's not? Because at the end

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Speaker 3: of the day, if it's not with the Cardinals, some

529
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Speaker 3: other team is watching that film and all of a sudden,

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Speaker 3: well you have a team, or maybe you don't have

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Speaker 3: a team. By the way, speaking to Paul Calvis, join

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Speaker 3: him in two weeks time. At the Arizona Cardinals Draft

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Speaker 3: Party Thursday, April twenty fifth, on the Great Lawn at

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Speaker 5: Forget the confetti, Maybe we'll throw out crawfish into the

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Speaker 5: crowd that'll work.

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Speaker 3: Halftime here on the Cardinals Red Superport on the Arizona

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Speaker 3: Cardinals Radio Network.

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Speaker 7: With the sixth pick in the twenty twenty three NFL Draft,

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Speaker 7: the Arizona Cardinals select Paris Johnson, Junior, Ohio State.

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Speaker 10: High High football character, highly intelligent, well spoken, mature, dependable,

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Speaker 10: and you can tell that he's made of the right things,

549
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Speaker 10: the things that we want. Not only our offensive linem

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Speaker 10: going to be made of, but what our entire team.

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Speaker 3: Started all seventeen games, played every single offensive snap and

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Speaker 3: more on special teams. Bottom line, Paris Johnson Junior was

553
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Speaker 3: not taking off the field year one and plugged in

554
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Speaker 3: at right tackle from the get go. Question is what

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Speaker 3: happens with Paris Johnson Jr. This upcoming season? As we

556
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Speaker 3: say welcome back, it is the Cardinals red seat report,

557
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Speaker 3: Greg Rayel, Lupaul Calvic, and Kyle Vanenbosch. We just touched

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Speaker 3: on the D line about the O line. You know

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Speaker 3: you've got Paris Johnson Junior signed Jonah Williams. I do think,

560
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Speaker 3: though Paul offensive line could be in play for the Cardinals'

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Speaker 3: first round, even if it is a trade down into

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Speaker 3: the early teens. Certainly in the twenties as well. But

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Speaker 3: right now, that offensive line has one hole, and that

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Speaker 3: is what do you do at left guard?

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Speaker 5: No doubt, and if you were to get a guy

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Speaker 5: who had the versatility to play inside for his first

567
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Speaker 5: year or two, then you absolutely do it. And there

568
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Speaker 5: are plenty of guys who have plenty of athletics zoom

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Speaker 5: who are capable of doing that. So we saw the

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Speaker 5: importance that the Cardinals Moniasciborn and Jonathan Gannon attached to

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Speaker 5: the old line a year ago, just in drafting Paris

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Speaker 5: Johnson Junior and from the get go making him a

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Speaker 5: day one starter. We're talking day one starter with rookie

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Speaker 5: Mini camp like. He wasn't competing for anything. He was

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Speaker 5: a franchise tackle. Just a matter of which side NFL

576
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Speaker 5: Network says it's going to be the left side. We'll see.

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Speaker 5: Jonah Williams has plenty of experience at both. But if

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Speaker 5: it's not that, I'm still on my radar at number

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Speaker 5: twenty seven or number thirty five could be a franchise center.

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Speaker 5: There are three franchise centers in this draft that will

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Speaker 5: probably be gone by early second round, and I wouldn't

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Speaker 5: be shocked if the Cardinals. Remember when Rodney Hudson gave

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Speaker 5: the Cardinals out one really good year. It really made

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Speaker 5: a difference. It changed my opinion on the position itself

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Speaker 5: and the value. And if the Cardinals zer will go

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Speaker 5: out and get a franchise center and then all of

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Speaker 5: a sudden, oh yell to Froholtz competing for left guard

588
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Speaker 5: because he has experience at guard as well, I wouldn't

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Speaker 5: be shocked.

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Speaker 3: Cardinals also signed Evan Brown in free agency, someone who

591
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Speaker 3: has both center and guard experience. But as we've heard

592
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Speaker 3: a lot, whether that's the D line or the O line,

593
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Speaker 3: it's all about the line of scrimmage. For general manager

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Speaker 3: Money Austin.

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Speaker 4: Ford, and that was a big reason why the offense

596
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Speaker 4: had success late in the season was their ability to

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Speaker 4: control the line of scrimmage. I mean, it was impressive

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Speaker 4: the way that they could move the ball, that they

599
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Speaker 4: could impose their will, and it showed, you know, not

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Speaker 4: only just early in games, but you know, the dam

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Speaker 4: broke late in games where you know, runs that were

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Speaker 4: two three yard runs in the first and second quarters

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Speaker 4: were all of a sudden four or five, six, seven

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Speaker 4: yard runs late in games. Because that's how the NFL goes.

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Speaker 4: And that's how I mean, It's it's kind of an

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Speaker 4: old saying, but you need to be able to be

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Speaker 4: physical and be able to run the ball late in

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Speaker 4: the season and then particularly in the playoffs. And the

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Speaker 4: Cardinals that's exactly what they did, and the formula worked

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Speaker 4: and and they were playing their best football when they

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Speaker 4: were running the ball really well. And and so you

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Speaker 4: can expect that, yes, they will add talent to this

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Speaker 4: offensive line, and not just this draft, but as long

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Speaker 4: as Monty asen Ford is here, as long as Jonathan

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Speaker 4: Gannon is here, as long as this offense is is

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Speaker 4: you know, the players are being called by Drew Petsing

617
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Speaker 4: the offensive line will be the strength of this offense.

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Speaker 4: And you know, I'm what I would expect is, regardless

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Speaker 4: of who they bring in, it will be physical players.

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Speaker 4: Players that you know, maybe they're they're not finesse players,

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Speaker 4: but players that can move, players off the line of scrimmage,

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Speaker 4: that can pick up that crucial third and short, fourth

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Speaker 4: and short, because you know, Jonathan Gannon has shown that

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Speaker 4: he's willing to go for it when the game's on

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Speaker 4: the line and they need that short yards play.

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Speaker 5: I mean, this is a team that added two ninety

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Speaker 5: nine yard drives last season. The whole kram At vertal

628
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Speaker 5: vertical thing was real. By the way, this year, Kyle,

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Speaker 5: we're using path of totality. If there's a ninety nine

630
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Speaker 5: yard drive, we're going to bust out the eclipse terminology.

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Speaker 5: Path of totality.

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Speaker 4: He's your nerd terminology out of here.

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Speaker 5: See new decision makers, there's a new philosophy, there's a

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Speaker 5: new emphasis. For example, in twenty twenty one, what happened

635
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Speaker 5: in round two, the Cardinals drafted Rondel Moore. You know

636
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Speaker 5: who they left on the board, Creed Humphrey, stand out

637
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Speaker 5: Pro Bowl caliber center. The next year, Cardinals in round

638
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Speaker 5: one traded away their first round pick for Hollywood Brown.

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Speaker 5: You know who's still on the board Tyler Linnerbaum, stand

640
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Speaker 5: out center for Baltimore. Throwback old school nasty dude with

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Speaker 5: maniacivor and Jonathan Gannon. I don't think that happens anymore.

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Speaker 5: I think the emphasis is on o line, at least

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Speaker 5: the trenches, both sides of the ball.

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Speaker 3: Well, we found out later after a year ago the

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Speaker 3: draft that even if the Cardinals had stayed at number three,

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Speaker 3: Paris Johnson Junior was most likely going to beat the selection.

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Speaker 3: You just got them a couple of picks later, plus

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Speaker 3: you got draft capital. A good first year. Dare I

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Speaker 3: see a great first year for Paris Johnson Junior. His

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Speaker 3: new teammate Jonah Williams from Afar. What did he see

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Speaker 3: out of the Cardinals rookie tackle.

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Speaker 11: I mean, I've heard only positive things about him, how

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Speaker 11: mature he is, and you know, obviously just seeing him

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Speaker 11: in the draft, phenomenal athlete and you know, watching his

655
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Speaker 11: state last year. He's a great player, and I'm excited,

656
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Speaker 11: you know, to book in the line with him.

657
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Speaker 3: Just a matter of which side of the line of

658
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:22,200
Speaker 3: scrimmage that they will book in the Cardinals offensive line.

659
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Speaker 3: Then we talk about the number of tackles in this

660
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Speaker 3: year's draft, the interior play, whether that's a center or guard.

661
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Speaker 3: There's a number of different names out there that everyone

662
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:34,480
Speaker 3: is top of mind with. Charles Davis though, on the

663
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Speaker 3: thirty third team, mentioned one versatile Washington offensive lineman.

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Speaker 12: A person who's underappreciated, but his value will be high.

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Speaker 12: That's Troy Fatana, the offensive lineman from the University of Washington.

666
00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:50,800
Speaker 12: Excellent footwork, good hand, but the best part about his

667
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 12: game I think is his scheme versatility. You want to guard,

668
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Speaker 12: I think he can kick inside the guard, even though

669
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Speaker 12: he's been a tackle at the University of Washington. You

670
00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:01,280
Speaker 12: want a starting left tap, I think that he can

671
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:03,720
Speaker 12: definitely be that guy. If you need to play on

672
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:06,600
Speaker 12: the right side, he can do that as well. He

673
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 12: can hit, moving targets out in open field, he can

674
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Speaker 12: pass protect, he can move people in the run game.

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Speaker 3: That's another piece of this puzzle, Kyle. When you talk

676
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:18,240
Speaker 3: about offensive line play, whether that's MONI, whether that's JG.

677
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Speaker 3: They want those offensive linemen to be versatile, whether that's

678
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Speaker 3: inside on any one of those three interior positions, or

679
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Speaker 3: versatile enough to play left side, right side, or in

680
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Speaker 3: the cases maybe some of these younger offensive linemen coming

681
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Speaker 3: out of college. Yeah, stick them in if they're one

682
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Speaker 3: of your five best, let them play the guard position,

683
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Speaker 3: and then move them to the outside later on in

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Speaker 3: their career.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, versatility is huge because of what we went through

686
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Speaker 4: the last two years. Two years ago is a rash

687
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:44,960
Speaker 4: of injuries on the offensive line. Last year is a

688
00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:47,320
Speaker 4: rash of injuries on the defensive line. So you need

689
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Speaker 4: your players to be flexible, to have had experience at

690
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Speaker 4: multiple positions, to be willing to move to multiple positions

691
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Speaker 4: so that you can still execute your offense that there's

692
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Speaker 4: not a big drop off. I mean, you know, I've

693
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Speaker 4: been a part of it. You see it throughout the league.

694
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Speaker 4: When one of your key players goes down and there's

695
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Speaker 4: a huge drop you've got to throw out half of

696
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 4: your playbook. You can't execute plays because you're missing one

697
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:14,400
Speaker 4: of your key cogs in your offensive line. So I

698
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:17,000
Speaker 4: think that's huge to have that type of versatility. And

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Speaker 4: you know, this is the type of player Fatanu that

700
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Speaker 4: that I think would be great in this system. He's

701
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Speaker 4: a brawler, he's physical, he loves to impose his will

702
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Speaker 4: on players. So you know, I think he would fit

703
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 4: in great with the Arizona Cardinals.

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Speaker 3: Six foot four, three hundred and seventeen pounds, twenty six

705
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Speaker 3: starts the last two seasons, all at left tackle.

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Speaker 5: And you know what, a lot of mock drafts have

707
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Speaker 5: him staying home and going to the Seattle Seahawks at

708
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Speaker 5: number sixteen. Seahawks needs serious help on their offensive line.

709
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Speaker 5: They lost five offensive linemen in free agency so far,

710
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Speaker 5: and that offensive front was nothing to write home about

711
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Speaker 5: to start with, so they need to invest in the

712
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Speaker 5: offensive line. I have a hard time seeing him get

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Speaker 5: past Seattle at sixteen. But if the Cardinals trade down

714
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Speaker 5: to eleven, twelve or thirteen and they end up with

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Speaker 5: the tackle, I wouldn't be shocked by that either. Once again,

716
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Speaker 5: an athletic guy like this who could go interior for

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Speaker 5: a while.

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Speaker 3: Another reason why offensive line might be in play early

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Speaker 3: in Day one is because you look past twenty twenty four,

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Speaker 3: you only have three linemen signed past this upcoming season.

721
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Speaker 3: Jonah Williams, Parris Johnson Junior, and we forget John Gains.

722
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Speaker 3: Those are the only three offensive linemen signed beyond this season.

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Speaker 3: So maybe it's not a selection for twenty twenty four,

724
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Speaker 3: but it's a selection for the future. Because if you're

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Speaker 3: drafting an offensive lineman in the first round now, all

726
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Speaker 3: of a sudden, that's someone that you hope is going

727
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Speaker 3: to be around for eight, nine, ten plus years.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's big to have that type of continuity, to

729
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Speaker 4: have a guy that you can, you know, know that

730
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Speaker 4: it's gonna fill a role, be in that spot that

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Speaker 4: you can count on for years. You know, it's last

732
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Speaker 4: year we saw you know, it was Manchiosport came in

733
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Speaker 4: didn't as cssarily know what he had with this roster,

734
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Speaker 4: and it was all one, possibly two year contracts. Now

735
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:06,920
Speaker 4: we're seeing in free agency it's a lot of three

736
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Speaker 4: year contracts because he's starting to figure out this roster,

737
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Speaker 4: what he needs, what holes he wants to fill, what

738
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Speaker 4: type of players he wants. And now if we can,

739
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Speaker 4: you know, with draftable players with that we have control of,

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Speaker 4: with reasonable contracts, have guys that we can fill these

741
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Speaker 4: roles and hopefully have them be lifelong Cardinals that fill

742
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Speaker 4: these roles on the offensive line, that would be great.

743
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Speaker 5: And what are gms like to do? Mani and everyone

744
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:34,759
Speaker 5: else work a year ahead of time. They look at

745
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:37,359
Speaker 5: the roster and they go, okay, wait a minute, three

746
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Speaker 5: offensive linemen under contract twenty twenty five. We better invest

747
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Speaker 5: and develop now, and if the guy is able to

748
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Speaker 5: compete and get playing time right away, all the better

749
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:49,719
Speaker 5: early return on investment. James Connor running back. You know,

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Speaker 5: so you think of a guy like Will Hernandez and

751
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Speaker 5: James Connor, but this is the final year of their contracts,

752
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:57,880
Speaker 5: and yes they are major pieces of this Cardinals offense.

753
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Speaker 5: But if you're the GM, you have to consider that

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Speaker 2: Lops at dear side and adjusting to make the catches.

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Speaker 2: Dorch bought at the forty by Dorton, turns right, sniff

764
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Speaker 2: arming forty five and pass mittmil still going. It's a

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Speaker 2: gate of thirty one spinning away from a defender, break's

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Speaker 2: attack on near.

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Speaker 8: Side forty thirty five thirty.

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Speaker 2: Cut the back of the right cut the twenty five

769
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Speaker 2: at tackle at the twenty one.

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Speaker 4: What a great return by Greg dort What Dorch got

771
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Speaker 4: whacked a cap one and what a huge play.

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Speaker 2: Doora diving catches made by Dorch first down, great catch.

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Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, that is full extension by Greg Dorch

774
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Speaker 3: right there on the out route.

775
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Speaker 4: Great catch caught again.

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Speaker 2: Dorch broken tackle thirty right side, twenty cuts back to

777
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Speaker 2: the left of the tent. Another broken tackle.

778
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 8: Breaks, the tackle breaks, another tackle, and then another tackle.

779
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Speaker 8: Twenty five to twenty angles outside the numbers of the ten.

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Speaker 4: Five dives into the end zone.

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Speaker 2: Touchdown, Breg Dorch.

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Speaker 4: Greg Dorch is on fire.

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Speaker 2: You just got dors.

784
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Speaker 3: Little known facts about Kyle Anenbosch. As we say, welcome

785
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:38,880
Speaker 3: back here to the Cardinals Red Sea Report. But if

786
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:42,839
Speaker 3: you happen to call KVB, you hear Paul CALVISI say

787
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:46,280
Speaker 3: you got Dorsch. That is the ringtone for Kyle Annenbosch's

788
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 3: cell phone. That's just that's how he rolls. The president

789
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Speaker 3: of the Greg Dorsch fan club.

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Speaker 5: You know you know why, and this is just speculation,

791
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:57,400
Speaker 5: so we'll get an answer. The reason KVB likes Greg Dorch,

792
00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 5: despite the fact they played totally different position, totally different

793
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:05,160
Speaker 5: body types, is that you can't tell the difference between

794
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 5: Greg Dortsch's effort level in a dog day training camp

795
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:13,279
Speaker 5: practice in the middle of August versus week seventeen with

796
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:17,440
Speaker 5: the playoffs on the line. He's the same dude, same intensity.

797
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:20,920
Speaker 5: That's why I love watching him play because he's just

798
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:27,920
Speaker 5: all out all the time. Absolutely, I mean he's very productive.

799
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Speaker 5: He's dangerous with the ball in his hands. He's explosive.

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Speaker 4: I mean when he makes a cut and sticks his

801
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:36,839
Speaker 4: foot in the ground, he gains ground quickly. You know,

802
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:39,800
Speaker 4: it's been a mystery since he's been with his team

803
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:44,480
Speaker 4: because when given opportunities, he produces every single time, and

804
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:48,240
Speaker 4: then he just disappears for stretches. So you know, it's

805
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:50,279
Speaker 4: at this point it seems to be on him to

806
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:52,919
Speaker 4: figure out why that is. Whether it be practice habit,

807
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:56,520
Speaker 4: study habits, but it's got to be something because he is,

808
00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:02,520
Speaker 4: when given the opportunity, an extremely value contribution to this offense,

809
00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 4: to this team, to the special teams, not just for

810
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 4: his production, but for the energy that he brings to

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Speaker 4: this team, what he brings to the sidelines when he

812
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:15,920
Speaker 4: is on the field and making plays, or when the

813
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 4: juice he brings to the sidelines, I mean he and

814
00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:23,520
Speaker 4: he does seem to have a good connection with Kyler Murray,

815
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:26,879
Speaker 4: which is also very important because when Kyler Murray came back,

816
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 4: that's when Greg Dorsch's production picked up this past season.

817
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Speaker 3: You know, you talk about the production the first ten

818
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:34,800
Speaker 3: games one catch, two yards, the last seven games twenty

819
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Speaker 3: four catches, two hundred and eighty yards and two touchdowns.

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Speaker 3: When given the opportunity, Dortsch delivers. It's just a matter

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Speaker 3: of that opportunity. And I wonder, now, with the addition

822
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Speaker 3: of DJ Dallas special teams more of a kickoff returner,

823
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Speaker 3: does that open up the door maybe for Doors to

824
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:53,920
Speaker 3: play some more offense. At least right now he is

825
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:56,880
Speaker 3: your top three wide receiver. Does that change once the

826
00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:59,719
Speaker 3: draft happens in post draft, but right now, Dortsch is

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Speaker 3: one your main whiteouts and look they list him at

828
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Speaker 3: five seven, one seventy five. So he took a beating

829
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Speaker 3: in the return game. There were times you're like, oh,

830
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Speaker 3: my goodness from the sideline level, like he'd take a

831
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Speaker 3: direct hit, he get propelled in the air or propelled

832
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Speaker 3: out of bounds. So okay, maybe minimize some of that

833
00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:19,080
Speaker 3: wear and tear on his body. Save all that yards

834
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Speaker 3: after catch talent for the offense for when he is

835
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Speaker 3: on the receiving end, the business end of a Kyler

836
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Speaker 3: Murray pass, because he makes dudes miss. There's a reason

837
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Speaker 3: he earned the return job. He is so elusive.

838
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Speaker 5: But you know what, now, maybe he's better served in

839
00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 5: the passing game and getting the ball to him downfield

840
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:37,440
Speaker 5: a little bit like in that Bears highlight. We're heard

841
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Speaker 5: at the very end that seemed to be an innocuous

842
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:41,880
Speaker 5: underneath route and boom, all of a sudden, it's a

843
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Speaker 5: forty eight yard touchdown because he turns it into a

844
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Speaker 5: punt return or a kick return, and he's making dudes

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Speaker 5: look stupid in space.

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Speaker 3: Right now, You've got Michael Wilson, Zach Pascal, Great Dortch,

847
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:53,799
Speaker 3: Chris Moore who you added in free agency, and then

848
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:56,120
Speaker 3: there's a handful of others that you signed the future deals.

849
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Speaker 3: But of course we're talking about the draft and who

850
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Speaker 3: might be available at number four of the Cardinals stick

851
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:03,399
Speaker 3: and pick or do they trade down? Can they get

852
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:06,200
Speaker 3: one of these top three wide receivers we talked about

853
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:09,200
Speaker 3: Marvin Harrison Junior. Well, the other name out there Romadunze,

854
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:11,799
Speaker 3: who did reportedly have a top thirty visit recently with

855
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Speaker 3: the Cardinals. The comp for him, here's Jordan Schultz on

856
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Speaker 3: the Herd with Colin Cowherd.

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Speaker 13: Davante Adams, he's really good. You know who else is

858
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Speaker 13: really good? Romo doonse Well. The reason I bring up

859
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Speaker 13: Adams is because an NFL scouts told me that's the

860
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:28,960
Speaker 13: comp for Odonza. Look at him with the line of scrimmage.

861
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Speaker 13: Look at the way he releases. He uses the basketball background,

862
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:35,280
Speaker 13: the body control, except he's a little bigger, a little faster,

863
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:37,879
Speaker 13: measured almost six three rant four to four five. He's

864
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Speaker 13: a freak.

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Speaker 3: Six three two twelve thirty nine inch vertical jump ran

866
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Speaker 3: a six ' eight eight three cone drill. Yeah, I

867
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Speaker 3: would certainly take a Devonte Adams in this offense.

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Speaker 5: And here's the thing about Romadunza. He had quite a

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Speaker 5: few more contested catches than Marvin Harrison Junior. He can

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Speaker 5: catch in traffic. He got a lot of attention this

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Speaker 5: last year at you dub and we saw a lot

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Speaker 5: of his games being out here on the West Coast,

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Speaker 5: and he was always making a physical, contested catch. So

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Speaker 5: for everything that Michael Wilson did, for example, this year,

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Speaker 5: the thing that impressed me the most is a guy

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Speaker 5: with size six two two fifteen plus, is that Michael

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Speaker 5: Wilson made a lot of contested catches. That's a separator

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Speaker 5: in the NFL. You can look great in the combine

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Speaker 5: and all the drills and the measurables, but you better

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Speaker 5: be able to make a physical catch. In traffic in

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Speaker 5: the NFL.

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Speaker 3: Who's going to be that guy on third and long.

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Speaker 3: Who's going to be that guy in the red zone

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Speaker 3: that Kyler Murray can drop back and look to and

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Speaker 3: know that the ball is either going to be caught

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Speaker 3: or it's going to fall in complete. It's not going

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Speaker 3: to get picked off. You can put it in jeopardy,

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Speaker 3: but you trust the receiver to have the position to

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Speaker 3: make the catch or attempt to make the catch.

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Speaker 4: There's no question he can do that. Look, and what

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Speaker 4: do we know about Mantias Fort and Jonathan Gannon. They

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Speaker 4: draft the complete player. They draft not just talent, but

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Speaker 4: locker room guys. They showed it last year. Guys that

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Speaker 4: are students of the game, Guys that love the game,

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Speaker 4: Guys that are good in the locker room. And I've

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Speaker 4: heard over and over just great things about Rome withdonsay

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Speaker 4: and the type of person he is and the type

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Speaker 4: of teammate that he is. And you know, one of

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Speaker 4: the things that I was most impressed with him is

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Speaker 4: last season in college against U of A and on

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Speaker 4: an on side kick, he broke his ribs, punctured his

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Speaker 4: lung and then went into the bye weekend, didn't miss

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Speaker 4: any time played the next game against Oregon. So not

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Speaker 4: only is he a high character player, an intelligent player,

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Speaker 4: but he's got that level of toughness as well where

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Speaker 4: he wants to be out there. He's gonna fight to

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Speaker 4: be back, he's gonna play through injury, and he's gonna

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Speaker 4: be accountable and available for his teammates.

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Speaker 5: Here's the other thing with this staff, No block, no rock.

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Speaker 5: So if we hit zoom out here on the last

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Speaker 5: year or so, DeAndre Hopkins no longer with his team, Hollywood,

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Speaker 5: Brown's no longer with his team, Rondell Moore is no

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Speaker 5: longer with his team. Would you say blocking was the

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Speaker 5: specially farny one of those guys. Michael Wilson was a

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Speaker 5: starter week one. Why because he was He was in

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Speaker 5: some hefty blocks on dudes throughout training camp and in

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Speaker 5: the preseason, and that got Jonathan Gannon's attention, and that

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Speaker 5: got him inserted into the starting lineup week one at Washington.

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Speaker 5: So when you look at all the film, take a

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Speaker 5: look at which guys actually consider it part of their

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Speaker 5: job description to lay a block on a dB or

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Speaker 5: maybe even a linebacker, because that's going to catch the

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Speaker 5: attention of Moni and JG.

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Speaker 3: And that's the unknown for me for those three wide

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Speaker 3: receivers that we all talk about, because you look at

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Speaker 3: the highlights, well you're not seeing any one of those

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Speaker 3: guys block. But the Paul's point, Kyle, if you're not blocking,

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Speaker 3: well you're not a part of this offense because the

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Speaker 3: ball might not be headed your way every single snap.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a huge part of this offense. Look, the

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Speaker 4: Cardinals are gonna run the ball next year, and if

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Speaker 4: you're on the field, you've got a job on that play,

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Speaker 4: whether it be running a route or blocking. You've got

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Speaker 4: to do your job.

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Speaker 3: Two more weeks, a little over two weeks before we

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Speaker 3: will know for certain what the Cardinals do when they

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Speaker 3: are on the clock at pick number four. Until then,

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Speaker 3: well I guess I got to look up those mock

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Speaker 3: drafts and old ladies.

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Speaker 5: Keep them coming, keep them coming.

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Speaker 3: Special thanks everyone behind the scenes, our executive producer Jim Amhundro,

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Speaker 3: associate producer Cody Fincher, technical director Matt Lazareth from Paul

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Speaker 3: Calvc Coven and Bosh, I'm Craig Real. We'll talk to

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Speaker 3: you in one week's time. This is the Cardinals Red

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Speaker 2: It is caught by McBride. Hey, it's a touchdown boot

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Speaker 2: a Baker with the sack strip the ball. Hurry's gonna

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Speaker 2: score touchdown, Oh baby.

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