1 00:00:05,126 --> 00:00:08,086 Speaker 1: All Huddle is a production of the NFL in partnership 2 00:00:08,126 --> 00:00:19,806 Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio. Get Up at Me Hank That welcome into 3 00:00:19,886 --> 00:00:23,686 Speaker 1: a brand spanking new rip Me Up the Plastic episode 4 00:00:23,726 --> 00:00:26,766 Speaker 1: of the l Huddle Podcast. I'm Drea Costu Ruiz, gonna 5 00:00:26,766 --> 00:00:30,326 Speaker 1: be Premo Mano, Will Selva and get ready, get ready 6 00:00:30,366 --> 00:00:33,766 Speaker 1: Will and everybody listening, because if your energy level is subpar, 7 00:00:34,166 --> 00:00:35,726 Speaker 1: I'm gonna need you to pull over if you're in 8 00:00:35,726 --> 00:00:38,446 Speaker 1: the car, and bring it up several notches because we 9 00:00:38,526 --> 00:00:42,406 Speaker 1: have one and only two time pro bowler, Las Vegas 10 00:00:42,486 --> 00:00:46,686 Speaker 1: Raiders defensive Madman Max Crosby in the house. 11 00:00:46,686 --> 00:00:48,886 Speaker 2: What's up, Max? Yeah, what's up? 12 00:00:49,326 --> 00:00:52,046 Speaker 3: What's up? I appreciate the intro. Thanks you all, you 13 00:00:52,086 --> 00:00:53,526 Speaker 3: know for having me on me. It's a lot. 14 00:00:54,006 --> 00:00:55,726 Speaker 1: We are so excited to have you here. You've been 15 00:00:55,766 --> 00:00:58,286 Speaker 1: at the top of our list for so so long. Okay, 16 00:00:58,326 --> 00:01:02,046 Speaker 1: so quote unquote off season. What have you been up to? 17 00:01:02,166 --> 00:01:05,366 Speaker 1: I saw you at Michael Ruben's party, very exclusive invite. 18 00:01:05,366 --> 00:01:06,806 Speaker 1: You've been busy to see the least. 19 00:01:08,126 --> 00:01:12,126 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I really don't like posting any type 20 00:01:12,126 --> 00:01:13,446 Speaker 4: of workouts or anything like that. 21 00:01:13,486 --> 00:01:15,046 Speaker 3: I like to keep that, you know, to myself. 22 00:01:15,086 --> 00:01:17,646 Speaker 4: In private, but as you see, you know, I'm in 23 00:01:17,686 --> 00:01:19,966 Speaker 4: the building every single day, every morning. 24 00:01:20,366 --> 00:01:22,806 Speaker 3: But yeah, you know, on the weekends, you know, if 25 00:01:22,846 --> 00:01:23,926 Speaker 3: I got a little bit of spare time. 26 00:01:23,966 --> 00:01:25,206 Speaker 4: You know, I've been doing a lot of things as 27 00:01:25,246 --> 00:01:27,726 Speaker 4: far as you know, making making connections and connecting with 28 00:01:28,086 --> 00:01:30,646 Speaker 4: you know, some of the most impactful people in the 29 00:01:30,646 --> 00:01:32,486 Speaker 4: game right now. So that's really you know, what I've 30 00:01:32,486 --> 00:01:34,686 Speaker 4: been trying to do is just build relationships and get 31 00:01:34,686 --> 00:01:36,246 Speaker 4: connected on a business level as well. 32 00:01:36,326 --> 00:01:37,326 Speaker 3: So it's been it's been. 33 00:01:37,206 --> 00:01:39,726 Speaker 1: Great, as you should if you guys don't know Michael Ruben, 34 00:01:39,806 --> 00:01:42,966 Speaker 1: CEO of Fanatics, so big connect there. But we always 35 00:01:42,966 --> 00:01:44,566 Speaker 1: know you work in silence, right well. 36 00:01:45,086 --> 00:01:46,046 Speaker 2: Oh absolutely. 37 00:01:46,246 --> 00:01:50,326 Speaker 5: There was this great profile of you in The Athletic 38 00:01:50,366 --> 00:01:53,966 Speaker 5: where you talked about your grip strength and how important 39 00:01:54,046 --> 00:01:57,806 Speaker 5: it is and how important the details are just in 40 00:01:57,846 --> 00:02:03,166 Speaker 5: your workouts. Why is the grip strength so important to you? 41 00:02:03,166 --> 00:02:05,526 Speaker 4: You know, it's funny, it's funny that up because I've 42 00:02:05,526 --> 00:02:07,926 Speaker 4: been hearing from so many people, you know, I saw 43 00:02:08,006 --> 00:02:08,526 Speaker 4: this article. 44 00:02:08,526 --> 00:02:10,246 Speaker 3: You know, they're talking about your grip strength. I'm like, 45 00:02:10,486 --> 00:02:12,646 Speaker 3: I've been doing this for years. I mentioned it one time, 46 00:02:12,646 --> 00:02:14,566 Speaker 3: and everybody wants to know about my grip. 47 00:02:15,086 --> 00:02:16,006 Speaker 2: What's the secrets? 48 00:02:16,126 --> 00:02:19,246 Speaker 4: Not? This is not something new, but I started. I 49 00:02:19,326 --> 00:02:22,206 Speaker 4: really started taking it serious after my second year. But 50 00:02:22,326 --> 00:02:24,406 Speaker 4: I have my second hand injury because I broke my 51 00:02:24,486 --> 00:02:26,966 Speaker 4: hand and then I broke the the. 52 00:02:26,886 --> 00:02:28,566 Speaker 3: Plate in my hand back to back years. 53 00:02:28,606 --> 00:02:30,526 Speaker 4: So that was something I really want to do, is 54 00:02:30,566 --> 00:02:32,486 Speaker 4: take that next step as far as like strengthening my 55 00:02:32,526 --> 00:02:32,926 Speaker 4: hands and. 56 00:02:32,846 --> 00:02:33,566 Speaker 3: Everything like that. 57 00:02:33,646 --> 00:02:35,446 Speaker 4: And you know, being a d lineman, I use my 58 00:02:35,446 --> 00:02:37,366 Speaker 4: hands every single play and having strong hands it is 59 00:02:37,406 --> 00:02:39,966 Speaker 4: super important and finishing plays you got to have, you know, 60 00:02:40,086 --> 00:02:42,166 Speaker 4: crazy grip to get a hold of a dude, you know, 61 00:02:42,326 --> 00:02:45,166 Speaker 4: running full speed and trying to break away. So h yeah, 62 00:02:45,166 --> 00:02:47,086 Speaker 4: that was another step for me. It's just really focusing 63 00:02:47,126 --> 00:02:49,566 Speaker 4: in on that. So every single workout I'm doing, I 64 00:02:49,606 --> 00:02:52,806 Speaker 4: have a different grip routine that I do every single day, 65 00:02:52,846 --> 00:02:55,486 Speaker 4: And like I'm not going to give everybody my details 66 00:02:55,486 --> 00:02:55,926 Speaker 4: of what that. 67 00:02:57,926 --> 00:02:59,126 Speaker 3: I did today. 68 00:02:59,206 --> 00:03:01,646 Speaker 4: I had, you know, I have my grip workout after 69 00:03:01,686 --> 00:03:04,086 Speaker 4: I was done working out. So yeah, it's an everyday 70 00:03:04,086 --> 00:03:06,166 Speaker 4: thing for me and I live the off so. 71 00:03:06,566 --> 00:03:08,966 Speaker 1: It's okay to gate keep some things. I'm okay with this, 72 00:03:09,366 --> 00:03:11,086 Speaker 1: so you've got to keep some of it. Close to 73 00:03:11,126 --> 00:03:14,766 Speaker 1: the vest for sure. I just remember Max, the year 74 00:03:15,326 --> 00:03:18,166 Speaker 1: that you got drafted, you were in Oakland at the time, 75 00:03:18,206 --> 00:03:20,886 Speaker 1: I was covering the raiders here And for those of 76 00:03:20,886 --> 00:03:23,246 Speaker 1: you who don't get that peak behind the veil, right, 77 00:03:23,406 --> 00:03:26,126 Speaker 1: like Max was always one of the last ones back 78 00:03:26,166 --> 00:03:29,486 Speaker 1: into the locker room after practice, like just dripping, putting 79 00:03:29,486 --> 00:03:33,126 Speaker 1: an extra work. You've always had that level of work ethic, 80 00:03:33,446 --> 00:03:36,766 Speaker 1: of that commitment and to think about then to now 81 00:03:36,846 --> 00:03:39,406 Speaker 1: your growth as a player, but also as a person 82 00:03:39,486 --> 00:03:41,806 Speaker 1: as a man, you're a father. Now, how have you 83 00:03:41,846 --> 00:03:44,606 Speaker 1: seen your trajectory over all these years? 84 00:03:44,886 --> 00:03:48,526 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, it's crazy, honestly, like I said, like 85 00:03:48,566 --> 00:03:50,566 Speaker 4: you said, like since my rookie year, there's been a 86 00:03:50,606 --> 00:03:54,606 Speaker 4: lot of changes, you know, a lot more tattoos, you know, 87 00:03:54,686 --> 00:03:59,086 Speaker 4: a lot more responsibilities. But honestly, it's been the greatest 88 00:03:59,086 --> 00:04:02,446 Speaker 4: thing ever. You know, it's been incredible, and like every 89 00:04:02,446 --> 00:04:04,326 Speaker 4: single day is a new challenge. And for me, I 90 00:04:04,366 --> 00:04:07,166 Speaker 4: think the most important thing with growth is just being 91 00:04:07,246 --> 00:04:11,286 Speaker 4: consistent and building a foundation that is sustainable but also 92 00:04:11,566 --> 00:04:14,926 Speaker 4: pushes your limits every single day. So you don't understand 93 00:04:15,206 --> 00:04:16,846 Speaker 4: how far you can go and how hard you can 94 00:04:16,846 --> 00:04:19,046 Speaker 4: work until you really push yourself on a daily basis 95 00:04:19,086 --> 00:04:21,246 Speaker 4: and then that becomes the norm, and then you could 96 00:04:21,246 --> 00:04:22,966 Speaker 4: just take you know, every off season, you could take 97 00:04:22,966 --> 00:04:25,886 Speaker 4: another step in that direction and realize that, you know, 98 00:04:25,926 --> 00:04:27,846 Speaker 4: I'm going into year five and I just pr and 99 00:04:27,966 --> 00:04:31,246 Speaker 4: literally everything again, and like most guys are talking about, yeah, 100 00:04:31,286 --> 00:04:33,606 Speaker 4: I'm just trying to you know, maintain and it's like no, 101 00:04:33,646 --> 00:04:36,246 Speaker 4: like I'm trying to be the best, and it requires 102 00:04:36,246 --> 00:04:38,686 Speaker 4: a different type of level, you know, attention to detail 103 00:04:39,206 --> 00:04:41,686 Speaker 4: and work ethic. And for me, I'm just trying to 104 00:04:41,726 --> 00:04:44,326 Speaker 4: elevate and take big leaps and bounds every single year. 105 00:04:44,646 --> 00:04:45,206 Speaker 3: And I feel like. 106 00:04:45,206 --> 00:04:48,246 Speaker 4: I'm doing that and and however long that takes till 107 00:04:48,286 --> 00:04:50,326 Speaker 4: I get my true respect, you know, I'm gonna keep 108 00:04:50,366 --> 00:04:51,726 Speaker 4: going until the wheels fall off. 109 00:04:51,766 --> 00:04:53,686 Speaker 3: So yeah, it's just an everyday battle. 110 00:04:54,166 --> 00:04:55,886 Speaker 4: Like you said though, also my daughter, you know, I 111 00:04:55,926 --> 00:04:57,606 Speaker 4: got a daughter, I got a family. 112 00:04:57,726 --> 00:04:59,446 Speaker 3: You know, I got a lot of different responsibilities. 113 00:04:59,446 --> 00:05:01,126 Speaker 4: I'm doing a lot more things off the field as 114 00:05:01,126 --> 00:05:04,566 Speaker 4: far as business and different things. But you know, I 115 00:05:04,606 --> 00:05:06,326 Speaker 4: love you know, it keeps my mind going. You know, 116 00:05:06,366 --> 00:05:08,606 Speaker 4: I used to be out partying and doing different things 117 00:05:08,646 --> 00:05:11,006 Speaker 4: and I was, you know, not as focused. But now 118 00:05:11,006 --> 00:05:13,846 Speaker 4: It's like I could take that energy and that obsessive 119 00:05:13,926 --> 00:05:17,286 Speaker 4: personality and put it into positive things. And I just noticed, 120 00:05:17,446 --> 00:05:20,126 Speaker 4: you know, I've been taking leaps and bounds, you know, 121 00:05:20,566 --> 00:05:22,766 Speaker 4: past most of the people, because most people just you know, 122 00:05:22,846 --> 00:05:24,486 Speaker 4: want to get by and do the norm. And like 123 00:05:24,526 --> 00:05:26,326 Speaker 4: for me, I'm always trying to go above and beyond 124 00:05:26,766 --> 00:05:28,006 Speaker 4: whatever I put my heart into. 125 00:05:28,646 --> 00:05:32,046 Speaker 5: And we know that you get inspiration from many places. 126 00:05:32,246 --> 00:05:34,966 Speaker 5: And if you look at your Instagram feed, you have 127 00:05:35,086 --> 00:05:37,806 Speaker 5: some great quotes. Like some of the things that you 128 00:05:37,846 --> 00:05:41,806 Speaker 5: say on there are dream big, your potential is limitless. 129 00:05:42,126 --> 00:05:45,086 Speaker 5: One of my main goals became reality. Now it's time 130 00:05:45,166 --> 00:05:48,646 Speaker 5: to achieve the others forever loading, right, and then you said, 131 00:05:48,726 --> 00:05:52,086 Speaker 5: bleep the noise, shoot for the stars and see where 132 00:05:52,126 --> 00:05:54,646 Speaker 5: you land. I mean, talk about a treasure trove of 133 00:05:54,846 --> 00:05:59,366 Speaker 5: inspirational quotes. Honestly, you said bleep the ceiling, we blow 134 00:05:59,406 --> 00:06:00,086 Speaker 5: the roof off. 135 00:06:00,526 --> 00:06:01,486 Speaker 1: I love that. 136 00:06:01,806 --> 00:06:05,526 Speaker 5: These are inspirational quotes. Do you I have one in 137 00:06:05,566 --> 00:06:10,086 Speaker 5: particular that is your favorite or maybe is there one 138 00:06:10,126 --> 00:06:14,446 Speaker 5: that you tell yourself all the time, Like, talk to 139 00:06:14,526 --> 00:06:16,766 Speaker 5: us about where you get the motivation there in some 140 00:06:16,806 --> 00:06:18,246 Speaker 5: of these quotes, because these are awesome. 141 00:06:18,726 --> 00:06:21,526 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, some of my biggest you know, my 142 00:06:21,766 --> 00:06:26,966 Speaker 4: biggest inspirations are you know, Michael Kobe and Ali and 143 00:06:28,326 --> 00:06:31,206 Speaker 4: I literally take hours and hours and hours of studying 144 00:06:31,246 --> 00:06:34,966 Speaker 4: these guys, from interviews to different podcasts to different you know, 145 00:06:35,086 --> 00:06:37,286 Speaker 4: highlight videos things like that, and I live by it, 146 00:06:37,366 --> 00:06:40,646 Speaker 4: like all the things I post online and like all 147 00:06:40,686 --> 00:06:42,486 Speaker 4: the quotes I get, like some of them are literally 148 00:06:42,566 --> 00:06:44,086 Speaker 4: just me like coming up with stuff off the top 149 00:06:44,086 --> 00:06:47,006 Speaker 4: of my head. But I'm very like visual and very 150 00:06:47,126 --> 00:06:49,966 Speaker 4: like speaking and manifesting things into reality. And like I've 151 00:06:50,006 --> 00:06:52,446 Speaker 4: always lived that way. And my agent, you know, he's 152 00:06:52,486 --> 00:06:54,606 Speaker 4: done with me since day one. And he met me 153 00:06:54,686 --> 00:06:56,966 Speaker 4: at Eastern and I told him, like, and he give 154 00:06:56,966 --> 00:06:59,366 Speaker 4: outs for everything. But like all the things I'm doing, 155 00:06:59,366 --> 00:07:01,006 Speaker 4: like this is the stuff I talked about when I 156 00:07:01,126 --> 00:07:03,886 Speaker 4: was two hundred and twenty five pounds at Eastern Michigan. 157 00:07:03,966 --> 00:07:05,846 Speaker 4: Like I told, I'm like, bro, I'm about to go 158 00:07:05,926 --> 00:07:07,326 Speaker 4: in the league. I'm going to go to the combine. 159 00:07:07,366 --> 00:07:09,686 Speaker 4: I'm gonna blow up there. I'm going to keep doing this. 160 00:07:09,806 --> 00:07:11,926 Speaker 4: But I'm not just talking about it. I'm living by it. 161 00:07:11,966 --> 00:07:14,286 Speaker 4: And that's something I really pride myself with. It's like, 162 00:07:14,686 --> 00:07:16,326 Speaker 4: you know, some people might take it as, you know, 163 00:07:16,366 --> 00:07:19,806 Speaker 4: I'm being arrogant or cocky by you know, talking about 164 00:07:19,846 --> 00:07:21,566 Speaker 4: the motivation and talking about yeah, I'm. 165 00:07:21,486 --> 00:07:22,246 Speaker 3: About to go do this. 166 00:07:22,366 --> 00:07:24,366 Speaker 4: It's like, No, I talk about what I do on 167 00:07:24,366 --> 00:07:26,246 Speaker 4: a daily basis, and I'm confident in what I say 168 00:07:26,286 --> 00:07:27,966 Speaker 4: because I live by it and I go above and 169 00:07:28,006 --> 00:07:30,926 Speaker 4: beyond with my actions. So yeah, I like to put 170 00:07:30,926 --> 00:07:33,006 Speaker 4: some words behind it because it almost adds a little 171 00:07:33,006 --> 00:07:35,246 Speaker 4: extra pressure on top of it. Because I'm one of 172 00:07:35,286 --> 00:07:37,686 Speaker 4: those guys that grew up, like my dad always said, 173 00:07:37,726 --> 00:07:39,646 Speaker 4: like don't be that guy that's talking and not doing it. 174 00:07:39,686 --> 00:07:42,326 Speaker 4: Like for me, it's like I'm always walk, but I'm 175 00:07:42,326 --> 00:07:44,366 Speaker 4: gonna put the words behind it, like, yeah, let's go. 176 00:07:44,526 --> 00:07:46,646 Speaker 4: You want to You're talking all this, Like I'm gonna 177 00:07:46,646 --> 00:07:48,526 Speaker 4: be the guy that will talk. But also I'll be 178 00:07:48,566 --> 00:07:50,166 Speaker 4: the first guy in line no matter what it is. 179 00:07:50,206 --> 00:07:51,286 Speaker 3: If you want to you. 180 00:07:51,246 --> 00:07:52,846 Speaker 4: Know, if you want to go at it practice, you 181 00:07:52,846 --> 00:07:54,606 Speaker 4: want to do this, all right, I'm calling you out 182 00:07:54,606 --> 00:07:56,446 Speaker 4: and let's do it. And if you want to go run, 183 00:07:56,486 --> 00:07:57,886 Speaker 4: you want to call me out to run, I'm gonna 184 00:07:57,886 --> 00:07:59,926 Speaker 4: be running with the dbs and receivers and running with 185 00:07:59,966 --> 00:08:01,926 Speaker 4: them and like that's just how I care myself. I'm 186 00:08:01,966 --> 00:08:04,366 Speaker 4: always trying to challenge myself and I live by that 187 00:08:04,446 --> 00:08:06,966 Speaker 4: motivation stuff like I really put it everywhere, Like I 188 00:08:07,006 --> 00:08:09,246 Speaker 4: literally I got a limitless tatted on the side of 189 00:08:09,246 --> 00:08:12,366 Speaker 4: my head like I got Jordan, I'll show you all 190 00:08:12,366 --> 00:08:12,606 Speaker 4: I got. 191 00:08:12,646 --> 00:08:14,486 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, oh yeah, here we go. 192 00:08:15,366 --> 00:08:19,006 Speaker 4: Ali be legendary all over me, so like I see 193 00:08:19,046 --> 00:08:20,966 Speaker 4: it every single day, and that's just how I live. 194 00:08:21,086 --> 00:08:22,686 Speaker 3: Like I like challenge myself. 195 00:08:22,726 --> 00:08:24,686 Speaker 4: I like putting that extra pressure on myself because that's 196 00:08:24,686 --> 00:08:26,566 Speaker 4: why I feel like I'm at my best. Like I 197 00:08:26,606 --> 00:08:29,246 Speaker 4: love playing a prime time games when everyone's watching me 198 00:08:29,286 --> 00:08:31,566 Speaker 4: and everyone's got their eyes on me, because that's why 199 00:08:31,606 --> 00:08:33,766 Speaker 4: I feel like that's when I'm at my calmst is 200 00:08:33,806 --> 00:08:36,926 Speaker 4: when I'm in that form of chaos, Like I love 201 00:08:37,006 --> 00:08:39,526 Speaker 4: that action. Like I feel like I'm at my absolute 202 00:08:39,566 --> 00:08:42,846 Speaker 4: most peaceful moments in the most chaotic Like that's just 203 00:08:42,846 --> 00:08:46,166 Speaker 4: from my childhood all the way up. Like it's it's backwards, 204 00:08:46,286 --> 00:08:48,406 Speaker 4: but like that's what I feel like the great ones are, 205 00:08:48,446 --> 00:08:50,206 Speaker 4: like you've got to be your calmest and the most 206 00:08:50,286 --> 00:08:52,366 Speaker 4: you know, chaotic, you know moments, Jo. 207 00:08:52,446 --> 00:08:54,766 Speaker 1: I'm about to go to Pilate's and break the Performer machine. 208 00:08:54,766 --> 00:08:58,086 Speaker 1: I'm so hype right now. I'm a little bit too 209 00:08:58,126 --> 00:08:59,406 Speaker 1: hype now at this point. 210 00:08:59,286 --> 00:09:03,486 Speaker 3: You know what, you gotta be worked out. Oh, it 211 00:09:03,566 --> 00:09:04,726 Speaker 3: just worked out. I got to go again. 212 00:09:04,966 --> 00:09:07,406 Speaker 1: But you mean it right, like you mean that with 213 00:09:07,646 --> 00:09:11,686 Speaker 1: every part of your being. And you mentioned Eastern Michigan. 214 00:09:12,486 --> 00:09:16,046 Speaker 1: Do you think that shaping coming from a smaller school 215 00:09:16,166 --> 00:09:19,046 Speaker 1: quote unquote kind of add to that chip on your shoulder. 216 00:09:19,046 --> 00:09:21,526 Speaker 1: Because it's interesting earlier you said, oh, until I get 217 00:09:21,526 --> 00:09:24,326 Speaker 1: my true respect. Like every analyst I talk to here, 218 00:09:24,406 --> 00:09:27,526 Speaker 1: every time we're having discourse about the league, your name 219 00:09:27,646 --> 00:09:30,806 Speaker 1: is among the top defensive players. So it's interesting that 220 00:09:30,846 --> 00:09:33,206 Speaker 1: you're still I guess you still feel like you're not 221 00:09:33,286 --> 00:09:35,486 Speaker 1: getting the proper respect. Why is that? 222 00:09:35,846 --> 00:09:36,206 Speaker 3: Yeah? 223 00:09:36,366 --> 00:09:39,846 Speaker 4: You know, for me, I feel like, you know, I'm 224 00:09:39,846 --> 00:09:42,726 Speaker 4: in those conversations, like you talk about top five as 225 00:09:42,806 --> 00:09:45,646 Speaker 4: rusher edge rushers, and you know, my name is brought 226 00:09:45,686 --> 00:09:48,166 Speaker 4: up majority of the time, but like, I feel like 227 00:09:48,206 --> 00:09:49,926 Speaker 4: they don't hold my name in the same respect as 228 00:09:49,926 --> 00:09:51,486 Speaker 4: some of the other guys like a Mic or a 229 00:09:51,566 --> 00:09:53,886 Speaker 4: Nick or a Mile Scare. Like there's like a different 230 00:09:53,926 --> 00:09:56,926 Speaker 4: level and I'm like, for me, even you read articles 231 00:09:56,926 --> 00:10:00,126 Speaker 4: and they'll be like, well, Max's top three impressors, he's 232 00:10:00,126 --> 00:10:03,006 Speaker 4: top five and win right, he's top and CFL. But 233 00:10:03,046 --> 00:10:05,806 Speaker 4: for some reason, I'm always five, always four. I'm like, 234 00:10:06,486 --> 00:10:08,526 Speaker 4: what more do I gotta do? Right, But at the 235 00:10:08,566 --> 00:10:11,446 Speaker 4: same time, like I love that that, like that that's 236 00:10:11,486 --> 00:10:13,366 Speaker 4: what I need, Like I and for me, it's like 237 00:10:13,526 --> 00:10:15,246 Speaker 4: I've always had to go above and beyond to prove 238 00:10:15,286 --> 00:10:17,446 Speaker 4: my worth and that's what makes me work so hard 239 00:10:17,446 --> 00:10:18,926 Speaker 4: and that's what like I feel like it's got me 240 00:10:18,926 --> 00:10:20,926 Speaker 4: to this point because, like I said, I have won 241 00:10:21,046 --> 00:10:23,126 Speaker 4: offer coming out of high school. I went to Eastern Michigan. 242 00:10:23,166 --> 00:10:25,206 Speaker 4: I'm a fourth round pick. I came in the league. 243 00:10:25,206 --> 00:10:27,206 Speaker 4: I was a third string guy my rookie year. Like 244 00:10:27,566 --> 00:10:29,206 Speaker 4: I came into training Kip a third string guy and 245 00:10:29,286 --> 00:10:32,086 Speaker 4: end up starting. Like and now it's like, Okay, I've 246 00:10:32,086 --> 00:10:34,206 Speaker 4: made two Pro Bowls, but I have the next step. 247 00:10:34,246 --> 00:10:35,526 Speaker 4: I want to be a first team on Pro I 248 00:10:35,606 --> 00:10:37,766 Speaker 4: want to win. I want to be in the biggest games. 249 00:10:37,766 --> 00:10:39,446 Speaker 4: I want to be in the playoffs. Like there's so 250 00:10:39,526 --> 00:10:41,766 Speaker 4: much more that I want to do, and like there's 251 00:10:41,806 --> 00:10:43,966 Speaker 4: always there's always gonna be tests, and like I feel 252 00:10:43,966 --> 00:10:46,446 Speaker 4: like it's just a part of my story. Like I 253 00:10:46,486 --> 00:10:48,446 Speaker 4: got to really go above and beyond to prove who 254 00:10:48,486 --> 00:10:50,966 Speaker 4: I am, and like people really won't believe it until 255 00:10:50,966 --> 00:10:53,086 Speaker 4: I really do everything I'm talking about, and like I've 256 00:10:53,126 --> 00:10:56,086 Speaker 4: already done so much more than what people expected. But 257 00:10:56,206 --> 00:10:58,286 Speaker 4: I'm not even getting I'm not even close to wherever. 258 00:10:58,686 --> 00:11:00,806 Speaker 4: You know, I plan on seeing myself in this league, 259 00:11:00,806 --> 00:11:02,846 Speaker 4: and like that's what pushes me every day. It's like 260 00:11:03,566 --> 00:11:05,846 Speaker 4: they could talk about, you know, he's a great story. 261 00:11:05,886 --> 00:11:07,286 Speaker 4: You know he's made a couple of Pro Bowls, but 262 00:11:07,326 --> 00:11:09,366 Speaker 4: like I want to be that guy and I'm going 263 00:11:09,446 --> 00:11:11,286 Speaker 4: to do everything in my power to do it, Like 264 00:11:11,566 --> 00:11:14,326 Speaker 4: nicolea jokish dude, it is year eight now for him, 265 00:11:14,686 --> 00:11:17,006 Speaker 4: and now he had to go win a championship back 266 00:11:17,006 --> 00:11:19,326 Speaker 4: to back MVP's for him to finally get his respect, 267 00:11:19,446 --> 00:11:22,846 Speaker 4: Like they were still clowning him last year after winning MVP's. 268 00:11:22,526 --> 00:11:23,886 Speaker 3: Like, well he's not as good as you. Well he's 269 00:11:23,886 --> 00:11:24,886 Speaker 3: not as nice, like. 270 00:11:25,246 --> 00:11:27,126 Speaker 4: Always had an excuse, and I'm like, what more do 271 00:11:27,206 --> 00:11:28,966 Speaker 4: I got to do? But that's what keeps me going. 272 00:11:29,006 --> 00:11:31,206 Speaker 4: And I remember everything, like I have a log in 273 00:11:31,286 --> 00:11:36,486 Speaker 4: my phone. It took that person, everybody. I take everything personal, 274 00:11:36,566 --> 00:11:38,606 Speaker 4: but like that's how I live my life and I 275 00:11:38,686 --> 00:11:41,606 Speaker 4: just love it and like I'm living I'm living the dream, 276 00:11:41,686 --> 00:11:43,326 Speaker 4: Like this is what I've dreamed of doing so as 277 00:11:43,366 --> 00:11:45,806 Speaker 4: a kid, and like even though it's hard sometimes and 278 00:11:45,846 --> 00:11:48,566 Speaker 4: I'm every great athlete is sensitive in a way, Like yeah, 279 00:11:48,606 --> 00:11:51,766 Speaker 4: I'm sensitive. I care about what everyone everyone says, but 280 00:11:51,806 --> 00:11:54,126 Speaker 4: I use it in a positive way now and I 281 00:11:54,206 --> 00:11:55,846 Speaker 4: just I really just attack it, you know, on a 282 00:11:55,886 --> 00:11:56,726 Speaker 4: daily basis. 283 00:11:57,046 --> 00:11:59,526 Speaker 1: Don't go anywhere anybody. We will be right back with 284 00:11:59,606 --> 00:12:00,366 Speaker 1: more l huddle. 285 00:12:05,846 --> 00:12:10,166 Speaker 5: It's so motivating hearing from you and your story and 286 00:12:10,246 --> 00:12:14,566 Speaker 5: how you live your life. You've also been a leader too, 287 00:12:14,606 --> 00:12:18,366 Speaker 5: and you've shown that leadership just this off season alone, 288 00:12:18,886 --> 00:12:22,366 Speaker 5: where you have practically new teammates on the D line, right, 289 00:12:22,406 --> 00:12:26,446 Speaker 5: you got Tyree who's now there. You got Nesta who 290 00:12:26,766 --> 00:12:29,446 Speaker 5: we actually had on this podcast, so you got a 291 00:12:29,446 --> 00:12:31,886 Speaker 5: bunch of new guys there. You've taken upon yourself to 292 00:12:31,966 --> 00:12:36,046 Speaker 5: really be that leader. You've had a bunch of outings 293 00:12:36,526 --> 00:12:40,566 Speaker 5: with the D line trying to develop that chemistry, to 294 00:12:40,686 --> 00:12:43,566 Speaker 5: develop that camaraderie. And one of the things that you 295 00:12:43,646 --> 00:12:47,286 Speaker 5: did is you had them go to power Slap, the 296 00:12:47,326 --> 00:12:51,966 Speaker 5: actual event there in Vegas. What was that event like 297 00:12:52,766 --> 00:12:55,246 Speaker 5: and what did all the young'ins think about it? 298 00:12:55,326 --> 00:12:56,086 Speaker 2: When you took them? 299 00:12:57,606 --> 00:12:59,246 Speaker 3: We had fun. You know, it was a couple of 300 00:12:59,246 --> 00:12:59,646 Speaker 3: the guys. 301 00:12:59,726 --> 00:13:03,006 Speaker 4: It was kind of last minute, but I know, I've 302 00:13:03,206 --> 00:13:05,086 Speaker 4: hit up my guys and I'm like, yo, I'm going 303 00:13:05,086 --> 00:13:06,606 Speaker 4: to his power slot pull up, And it was like 304 00:13:06,846 --> 00:13:08,726 Speaker 4: literally an hour before and a couple you know, if. 305 00:13:08,646 --> 00:13:10,366 Speaker 3: You guys showed up and we went have fun. 306 00:13:11,526 --> 00:13:13,206 Speaker 4: We've had a lot of dinners, you know, we've done 307 00:13:13,206 --> 00:13:15,726 Speaker 4: a lot of different things together. But it's honestly just 308 00:13:15,726 --> 00:13:18,686 Speaker 4: about that daily you know, camaraderie. You know we're meeting 309 00:13:18,686 --> 00:13:20,406 Speaker 4: as a D line. It's not just you know, D 310 00:13:20,486 --> 00:13:22,526 Speaker 4: Tackle was separated from the edge guys, Like that was 311 00:13:22,566 --> 00:13:25,166 Speaker 4: something I really emphasized like that I wanted this this 312 00:13:25,286 --> 00:13:27,326 Speaker 4: upcoming year. I was like, we should never be separated. 313 00:13:27,326 --> 00:13:29,006 Speaker 4: We need to be on the same page. We need 314 00:13:29,006 --> 00:13:31,926 Speaker 4: to wear the same like literally tire or shoes the same. 315 00:13:32,086 --> 00:13:33,966 Speaker 3: Like it's got to be that with the D Line, 316 00:13:34,006 --> 00:13:35,086 Speaker 3: Like it's four equals one. 317 00:13:35,206 --> 00:13:37,686 Speaker 4: Everybody's on the same page, and that's when you see 318 00:13:37,686 --> 00:13:39,766 Speaker 4: magic happen. And I feel like that's something we missed 319 00:13:39,806 --> 00:13:42,046 Speaker 4: last year and the year before when we went to 320 00:13:42,086 --> 00:13:44,486 Speaker 4: the playoffs, like our d line was like this, Like 321 00:13:45,166 --> 00:13:47,446 Speaker 4: whatever Quinn Jefferson was doing, I didn't even have to 322 00:13:47,486 --> 00:13:49,526 Speaker 4: ask him already, Like it was just like we had 323 00:13:49,526 --> 00:13:51,166 Speaker 4: a sixth sense and we were all just feeding off 324 00:13:51,206 --> 00:13:53,366 Speaker 4: each other. And that's what it takes to be great 325 00:13:53,366 --> 00:13:55,366 Speaker 4: in this league and be effective, you know, as a front. 326 00:13:55,726 --> 00:13:57,726 Speaker 4: And for me, you know, being a leader, I want 327 00:13:57,726 --> 00:13:59,486 Speaker 4: to be that guy that you know, we had Rob 328 00:13:59,526 --> 00:14:01,806 Speaker 4: Marynelli's one of the greatest D line coaches ever and 329 00:14:01,846 --> 00:14:03,326 Speaker 4: he was a leader, and so we had a lot 330 00:14:03,366 --> 00:14:05,246 Speaker 4: of leaders in that room, so it made it so easy. 331 00:14:05,566 --> 00:14:08,246 Speaker 4: But now like I have, you know, for me, it's 332 00:14:08,246 --> 00:14:09,766 Speaker 4: like now it's that next step. I got to be 333 00:14:09,806 --> 00:14:12,366 Speaker 4: the guy that can you know, bring everybody together. But 334 00:14:12,406 --> 00:14:14,206 Speaker 4: it's not just defense of the line, Like it's got 335 00:14:14,246 --> 00:14:16,206 Speaker 4: to be the defense, got to be the offense. And 336 00:14:16,326 --> 00:14:18,566 Speaker 4: like that's something I really want to take as a challenge. 337 00:14:18,606 --> 00:14:20,206 Speaker 4: You know, I've been a captain twice, but I want 338 00:14:20,206 --> 00:14:22,166 Speaker 4: to be you know, that guy. You know, and it's 339 00:14:22,206 --> 00:14:24,446 Speaker 4: usually you don't think of d Lineman being those guys, 340 00:14:24,446 --> 00:14:26,166 Speaker 4: but you know, I feel like God put me in 341 00:14:26,166 --> 00:14:28,806 Speaker 4: this position for a reason. And you know, my coaches 342 00:14:28,846 --> 00:14:30,926 Speaker 4: fully encourage it, and they want me to, you know, 343 00:14:31,126 --> 00:14:33,366 Speaker 4: be my best version of myself. Don't shy back when 344 00:14:33,406 --> 00:14:35,286 Speaker 4: something's bothering you, to go out and call them out. 345 00:14:35,326 --> 00:14:37,526 Speaker 4: You know what I mean, they all respect you. Can't 346 00:14:37,526 --> 00:14:38,726 Speaker 4: do it unless they all respect you. 347 00:14:38,766 --> 00:14:40,166 Speaker 3: And like that's something I know. 348 00:14:40,286 --> 00:14:42,486 Speaker 4: So Michael Jordan quote, like he's like, I would never 349 00:14:42,526 --> 00:14:44,646 Speaker 4: ask my teammates to do something, you know, do something 350 00:14:44,646 --> 00:14:45,406 Speaker 4: that I wouldn't. 351 00:14:45,566 --> 00:14:47,006 Speaker 3: And that's what I try to prove to my guys. 352 00:14:47,006 --> 00:14:49,006 Speaker 4: And I've earned that respect because I'm you know, running 353 00:14:49,006 --> 00:14:50,926 Speaker 4: gasters with the DBS every day and I'm doing all 354 00:14:50,966 --> 00:14:54,006 Speaker 4: this stuff. But I'm doing it purposefully because i want 355 00:14:54,006 --> 00:14:54,926 Speaker 4: them to have that respect. 356 00:14:54,966 --> 00:14:55,726 Speaker 3: But when things are. 357 00:14:55,606 --> 00:14:58,526 Speaker 4: Going down, like I can be that guy where listen, 358 00:14:59,006 --> 00:15:00,606 Speaker 4: pick your ass up. I'm not coming at you in 359 00:15:00,646 --> 00:15:03,566 Speaker 4: a disrespectful way. It's like, listen, I need you to 360 00:15:03,686 --> 00:15:04,886 Speaker 4: do this for me, you know what I mean. And 361 00:15:04,966 --> 00:15:07,406 Speaker 4: it's not like you know, they don't have a guard 362 00:15:07,406 --> 00:15:09,206 Speaker 4: of like screw you. It's like, Okay, Max is coming 363 00:15:09,206 --> 00:15:10,526 Speaker 4: at me because he wants me to get better. 364 00:15:10,526 --> 00:15:12,046 Speaker 3: And that's that's what you got to learn. 365 00:15:12,046 --> 00:15:14,086 Speaker 4: And like I'm going into my fifth year and I'm young, 366 00:15:14,086 --> 00:15:15,806 Speaker 4: and I've just been learning how to become a leader. 367 00:15:15,806 --> 00:15:17,766 Speaker 4: And that's why I study the Jordan's, the Kobe's, the 368 00:15:17,806 --> 00:15:21,446 Speaker 4: Brady's and have been able to actually meet with Brady 369 00:15:21,526 --> 00:15:24,646 Speaker 4: like and it's been cool. So like, yeah, just picking 370 00:15:24,806 --> 00:15:26,406 Speaker 4: picking their brains and just trying to be the best 371 00:15:26,486 --> 00:15:28,126 Speaker 4: version of myself, you know, not only as a player, 372 00:15:28,126 --> 00:15:29,046 Speaker 4: but as a leader as well. 373 00:15:29,406 --> 00:15:30,966 Speaker 1: You know, I didn't think this was going to be 374 00:15:30,966 --> 00:15:34,486 Speaker 1: a ted talk, but I love this for us. I 375 00:15:34,526 --> 00:15:36,206 Speaker 1: feel like, you know, it was so good. 376 00:15:36,606 --> 00:15:40,006 Speaker 5: It's he needs to leave us like voicemails, Jay, I 377 00:15:40,046 --> 00:15:42,206 Speaker 5: think like like maybe a voicemail a day. 378 00:15:42,406 --> 00:15:43,766 Speaker 2: Something we can have. 379 00:15:43,726 --> 00:15:46,966 Speaker 1: The opposite of the calm app, like the Max app, 380 00:15:47,526 --> 00:15:50,726 Speaker 1: just like fire you up messages on a write down. 381 00:15:53,126 --> 00:15:57,486 Speaker 1: That's a business proposition my people. 382 00:15:57,206 --> 00:15:57,446 Speaker 3: People. 383 00:15:57,726 --> 00:15:59,806 Speaker 1: But Will didn't want to have a little bit of 384 00:15:59,846 --> 00:16:02,726 Speaker 1: fun with you. He has come up with a segment 385 00:16:02,806 --> 00:16:03,926 Speaker 1: will lead us in. 386 00:16:04,366 --> 00:16:07,766 Speaker 5: Yeah, the segment we call is to the Max. You 387 00:16:07,806 --> 00:16:11,246 Speaker 5: are the first Max that we've had the podcast, So 388 00:16:11,286 --> 00:16:13,566 Speaker 5: thank you very much for this. We just want to 389 00:16:13,606 --> 00:16:16,286 Speaker 5: know how well you know other well known Maxes. 390 00:16:16,686 --> 00:16:17,566 Speaker 2: Are you ready for this? 391 00:16:18,406 --> 00:16:22,286 Speaker 5: We will tell you We will give you the clue 392 00:16:22,366 --> 00:16:24,886 Speaker 5: and you tell us who this person is. Obviously first 393 00:16:24,926 --> 00:16:26,646 Speaker 5: name Max. So here's the first one. 394 00:16:26,686 --> 00:16:28,446 Speaker 1: Some of these I don't I don't know, okay. 395 00:16:28,526 --> 00:16:32,126 Speaker 5: Okay, first one Belgian Dutch Formula one driver. 396 00:16:34,086 --> 00:16:35,726 Speaker 1: Are you into Formula one? Are you infinite? 397 00:16:35,846 --> 00:16:36,406 Speaker 3: No chance? 398 00:16:36,486 --> 00:16:38,646 Speaker 2: I know that, that's all right. 399 00:16:39,006 --> 00:16:42,046 Speaker 3: I don't watch Formula one. That's all good. 400 00:16:42,086 --> 00:16:46,046 Speaker 5: I thought I try Max for staffing, Max for stapping. 401 00:16:45,726 --> 00:16:47,446 Speaker 1: For a million dollars. I would not have been able 402 00:16:47,446 --> 00:16:47,966 Speaker 1: to answer that. 403 00:16:49,526 --> 00:16:51,166 Speaker 2: It's not around the world though, it's. 404 00:16:51,246 --> 00:16:55,446 Speaker 1: I gotta set my game up. Yeah, more f one Okay, 405 00:16:55,446 --> 00:17:01,566 Speaker 1: future Hall of Fame picture Max. Yeah, that one. Yes, 406 00:17:01,766 --> 00:17:02,286 Speaker 1: here we go. 407 00:17:02,686 --> 00:17:06,246 Speaker 5: Okay, this is gonna be a toughie a character in 408 00:17:06,326 --> 00:17:07,406 Speaker 5: Stranger Things. 409 00:17:09,366 --> 00:17:15,966 Speaker 4: Oh uh, she's the she has the red hair. Her 410 00:17:16,006 --> 00:17:18,686 Speaker 4: brother is the dude who ends up being like possessed 411 00:17:18,726 --> 00:17:19,126 Speaker 4: or whatever. 412 00:17:19,206 --> 00:17:23,806 Speaker 1: And we're gonna count to you, well, count. 413 00:17:23,846 --> 00:17:29,726 Speaker 5: We're gonna count. That's Maxine Mayfield characters. Yes, it's incredible 414 00:17:29,726 --> 00:17:30,926 Speaker 5: in an arcade. 415 00:17:33,526 --> 00:17:37,086 Speaker 1: A fellow ginger, So now you love that? Okay. Former 416 00:17:37,206 --> 00:17:41,926 Speaker 1: NBA guard known as mad Max, oh vernon Maxwell? 417 00:17:42,086 --> 00:17:45,846 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, okay, he's got it all right. 418 00:17:46,806 --> 00:17:49,766 Speaker 2: Start we're working on. Okay. 419 00:17:49,846 --> 00:17:55,206 Speaker 5: Finally, a Spider Man villain known as Electro, like his 420 00:17:55,286 --> 00:18:00,126 Speaker 5: real name, Electro is the super villain, but his first 421 00:18:00,206 --> 00:18:00,926 Speaker 5: name is Max. 422 00:18:01,166 --> 00:18:05,166 Speaker 3: So you got me on that one. 423 00:18:05,726 --> 00:18:11,966 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're all right. It's Max Dylan is Electro. 424 00:18:12,166 --> 00:18:14,566 Speaker 5: Jamie Fox played him in the movies. Are you even 425 00:18:14,646 --> 00:18:16,806 Speaker 5: like a Marvel fan at all? 426 00:18:17,566 --> 00:18:17,806 Speaker 2: Max? 427 00:18:17,966 --> 00:18:19,206 Speaker 1: Are you into superhero movies? 428 00:18:19,366 --> 00:18:22,566 Speaker 4: Last time I watched a Spider Man movie was like 429 00:18:22,806 --> 00:18:25,086 Speaker 4: the old Toby Maguire Spider right. 430 00:18:25,006 --> 00:18:25,806 Speaker 2: Right, right, right right right? 431 00:18:25,846 --> 00:18:30,006 Speaker 1: Wowatter thing is There's been like twenty seven hundred other ones. 432 00:18:30,046 --> 00:18:31,806 Speaker 1: There's the Spider Verse. I can't keep up. 433 00:18:32,246 --> 00:18:33,406 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's hard to keep up. 434 00:18:33,406 --> 00:18:35,446 Speaker 4: And once I'm out of you know, out of line 435 00:18:35,486 --> 00:18:37,686 Speaker 4: with everything, then it's just like, yeah, I can't watch it. 436 00:18:37,846 --> 00:18:40,206 Speaker 1: Here's something you might know, Well, your daughter is too 437 00:18:40,246 --> 00:18:41,046 Speaker 1: How old is your daughter? 438 00:18:41,686 --> 00:18:42,766 Speaker 3: She's nine months now. 439 00:18:42,966 --> 00:18:44,926 Speaker 1: I'm okay, so maybe we're still a little bit. Early on, 440 00:18:45,006 --> 00:18:47,566 Speaker 1: I was like, what's the kid show? Because like, my 441 00:18:47,646 --> 00:18:51,246 Speaker 1: niece was into the Coco Melon. Now she's into Pop Patrol. 442 00:18:51,486 --> 00:18:54,086 Speaker 1: There's like a whole other universe of like, now you're 443 00:18:54,086 --> 00:18:55,886 Speaker 1: a fan of this show too because you have a child. 444 00:18:56,286 --> 00:18:58,766 Speaker 1: My friend say so it's interesting. You'll get there if 445 00:18:58,766 --> 00:19:01,726 Speaker 1: you haven't already watched when she's a little old. 446 00:19:04,246 --> 00:19:05,326 Speaker 2: Doc Duffins. 447 00:19:05,806 --> 00:19:07,606 Speaker 1: I have no idea who that is, Blue, I don't know, 448 00:19:08,006 --> 00:19:11,446 Speaker 1: but everybody's Auntie, so like I've heard of some of these. Max. 449 00:19:11,606 --> 00:19:14,246 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for your time. We're so happy 450 00:19:14,286 --> 00:19:16,206 Speaker 1: that we got to have you on here. I'm I'm 451 00:19:16,246 --> 00:19:17,686 Speaker 1: set for the rest of the day. I'm about to 452 00:19:17,726 --> 00:19:18,726 Speaker 1: go crush this workout. 453 00:19:19,206 --> 00:19:22,046 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, thank you again. 454 00:19:22,126 --> 00:19:24,766 Speaker 3: Man, You're the best. Absolutely, thank you, guys, appreciate it. 455 00:19:27,166 --> 00:19:29,046 Speaker 2: I am so hyped. I am jack. 456 00:19:29,406 --> 00:19:30,846 Speaker 1: My heart is racing. 457 00:19:31,126 --> 00:19:31,766 Speaker 2: This is what Dan. 458 00:19:32,486 --> 00:19:37,486 Speaker 5: You can just see in his eyes and the authenticity 459 00:19:37,606 --> 00:19:41,366 Speaker 5: in his voice, how passionate he is about the game, 460 00:19:41,766 --> 00:19:44,966 Speaker 5: about getting better and being one of the best. And 461 00:19:45,006 --> 00:19:47,446 Speaker 5: he's right. He's got the numbers. Thirty seven and a 462 00:19:47,486 --> 00:19:50,846 Speaker 5: half sex over his first four game or four seasons, 463 00:19:50,926 --> 00:19:54,446 Speaker 5: rather twelve and a half SEX last season alone, one 464 00:19:54,526 --> 00:19:58,286 Speaker 5: hundred and eighty two QB pressures are the most in 465 00:19:58,326 --> 00:20:02,326 Speaker 5: the NFL the last two seasons. So to his point, 466 00:20:02,886 --> 00:20:05,446 Speaker 5: he is one of the best ones and he thinks 467 00:20:05,446 --> 00:20:08,766 Speaker 5: he should be number one, maybe number two. But it 468 00:20:08,806 --> 00:20:10,326 Speaker 5: didn't sound like you wants to be number two. 469 00:20:10,766 --> 00:20:12,806 Speaker 1: Sound like he's trying to be in second place there. 470 00:20:12,806 --> 00:20:14,766 Speaker 1: But when was it that we that I was out 471 00:20:14,766 --> 00:20:17,646 Speaker 1: in vase. Must have been training camp, all said and done, 472 00:20:17,806 --> 00:20:21,126 Speaker 1: everyone was gone. Max was still out on the field 473 00:20:21,926 --> 00:20:24,966 Speaker 1: running drilled and just like conditioning. And he's been like that. 474 00:20:25,166 --> 00:20:27,086 Speaker 1: I was there the year he got drafted. He's been 475 00:20:27,126 --> 00:20:30,526 Speaker 1: like that since he entered this league. And I just 476 00:20:30,566 --> 00:20:34,366 Speaker 1: see the character arc, right, the human arc for Max, 477 00:20:34,406 --> 00:20:36,246 Speaker 1: and he, like he said, he's just getting started. I'm 478 00:20:36,286 --> 00:20:38,926 Speaker 1: very excited for him and really happy you know that 479 00:20:38,966 --> 00:20:42,446 Speaker 1: he's just like found his groove and that he means 480 00:20:42,486 --> 00:20:45,326 Speaker 1: it like that's you hear a lot of you know, 481 00:20:45,326 --> 00:20:48,206 Speaker 1: we always chat Will about like the player speaker, the 482 00:20:48,206 --> 00:20:50,606 Speaker 1: coach bo one hundred and ten percent, Like right, he 483 00:20:50,646 --> 00:20:53,606 Speaker 1: come to one hundred and he spoke from the heart 484 00:20:53,726 --> 00:20:55,726 Speaker 1: for real, like he meant every single part of that. 485 00:20:56,206 --> 00:20:58,086 Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I was actually curious. 486 00:20:58,446 --> 00:21:00,126 Speaker 5: If we had a little more time, I would have 487 00:21:00,246 --> 00:21:03,806 Speaker 5: just asked him if if there is an activity of 488 00:21:03,846 --> 00:21:07,246 Speaker 5: any kind that he does less than a one hundred 489 00:21:07,246 --> 00:21:11,566 Speaker 5: percent where his wife has to stay Yo, Max, dial 490 00:21:11,646 --> 00:21:13,886 Speaker 5: it back a little bit, or she's like no, once 491 00:21:13,926 --> 00:21:15,846 Speaker 5: you wind him up, let him go do his things to do, 492 00:21:15,926 --> 00:21:17,966 Speaker 5: and it sounds like, just let him do his thing 493 00:21:18,046 --> 00:21:18,846 Speaker 5: right because he's. 494 00:21:18,726 --> 00:21:19,326 Speaker 2: Going to thrive. 495 00:21:19,766 --> 00:21:23,046 Speaker 5: And he's done so incredibly well for himself and now 496 00:21:23,046 --> 00:21:26,286 Speaker 5: he's this leader mentor and he mentioned he's been captain, 497 00:21:26,366 --> 00:21:29,126 Speaker 5: but especially this off season, it feels like he's just 498 00:21:29,166 --> 00:21:32,926 Speaker 5: really helped to develop some of the chemistry there. 499 00:21:32,966 --> 00:21:35,806 Speaker 2: We de line with some of the new players and. 500 00:21:36,486 --> 00:21:38,726 Speaker 5: You know, Nesto I mentioned that we had him on 501 00:21:38,766 --> 00:21:43,126 Speaker 5: the podcast that he loves those inspirational quotes too, and 502 00:21:43,126 --> 00:21:47,006 Speaker 5: he says that he would put notes, you know, quotes 503 00:21:47,086 --> 00:21:51,046 Speaker 5: in like the notes section in his so somebody like that, 504 00:21:51,126 --> 00:21:55,206 Speaker 5: he's probably just just living that up right, living for 505 00:21:55,326 --> 00:21:57,886 Speaker 5: something like that. So you just see what an impact 506 00:21:57,886 --> 00:22:00,646 Speaker 5: he's made. And he's made an impact just in our 507 00:22:01,126 --> 00:22:02,286 Speaker 5: short chat here. 508 00:22:02,166 --> 00:22:05,846 Speaker 1: In twenty minutes. Unbelievable. Something I did forget though to 509 00:22:05,926 --> 00:22:07,566 Speaker 1: ask him because we got there was so much to 510 00:22:07,606 --> 00:22:10,646 Speaker 1: go through. How many tattoos and how many hours of 511 00:22:10,686 --> 00:22:14,406 Speaker 1: ink that took? Oh well, we'll, we'll, we'll message him. 512 00:22:14,406 --> 00:22:16,046 Speaker 1: I'm sure he'll get back to us. Max, if you're listening, 513 00:22:16,166 --> 00:22:18,566 Speaker 1: let us know, very curious. That's a lot of dedication 514 00:22:18,966 --> 00:22:19,886 Speaker 1: to the ink there. 515 00:22:20,206 --> 00:22:20,886 Speaker 2: Yes, it is. 516 00:22:21,886 --> 00:22:24,486 Speaker 1: Well, we're getting closer. Just a few more week a 517 00:22:25,246 --> 00:22:28,326 Speaker 1: training camp starts quote unquote week over. 518 00:22:28,486 --> 00:22:32,446 Speaker 5: Yeah yeah yeah, And you're still you're you're gonna take 519 00:22:32,446 --> 00:22:33,206 Speaker 5: your last. 520 00:22:32,966 --> 00:22:36,326 Speaker 1: Vacation, last trip, your last trip of every trip of 521 00:22:36,366 --> 00:22:37,086 Speaker 1: that vacation. 522 00:22:37,366 --> 00:22:38,526 Speaker 2: Take it, enjoy it. 523 00:22:39,166 --> 00:22:41,406 Speaker 1: You know what. I don't do that I'm very bad about. 524 00:22:41,526 --> 00:22:44,046 Speaker 1: I will. I will book the trip until like the 525 00:22:44,126 --> 00:22:47,206 Speaker 1: last day. I need to start padding in a day 526 00:22:47,286 --> 00:22:49,846 Speaker 1: or two. I don't know, to beat jet lag, to 527 00:22:50,046 --> 00:22:53,806 Speaker 1: like organize my life, to clean the house. Like yeah, 528 00:22:53,926 --> 00:22:56,526 Speaker 1: I never know. I'm like afterday I worked the twenty fourth, 529 00:22:56,566 --> 00:22:59,006 Speaker 1: I'm coming back to twenty four like to the wire. 530 00:22:59,606 --> 00:23:01,046 Speaker 1: And then I'm tired for the whole season. 531 00:23:02,006 --> 00:23:06,406 Speaker 5: See, but then I'm hearing Max saying tired, come on, tired. 532 00:23:06,526 --> 00:23:07,086 Speaker 2: Let's go. 533 00:23:07,686 --> 00:23:08,766 Speaker 1: He's right, He's right. 534 00:23:08,966 --> 00:23:11,446 Speaker 2: Love his energy, love your energy. MJ. 535 00:23:11,646 --> 00:23:14,446 Speaker 5: As always, we have fun on this podcast. This is 536 00:23:14,526 --> 00:23:18,406 Speaker 5: the l Huddle Podcast. We have great guests on. We 537 00:23:18,446 --> 00:23:21,566 Speaker 5: have guests from the entertainment world as well. 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