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Speaker 1: Reading the stars.

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Speaker 2: Alex is just reading the stars. We got a shoe

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Speaker 2: house for three and post game shows, beats in the booth,

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Speaker 2: making everything. We're all pretty stoked about Rabel and Meg and.

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Speaker 3: Everybody still Peyton, no Christian.

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Speaker 2: Hey, it's a brand Peal season past.

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Speaker 1: Give us something to believe and ready for three shows

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Speaker 1: the week.

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Speaker 3: It's been too long enough.

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Speaker 4: I get a T shirt for riding this song.

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Speaker 1: This is Patriots Unfiltered, presented by Toyota's official website. For deals,

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Speaker 2: Welcome. I don't see it tally later. Our camera's on

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Speaker 2: there we go. All right, all right, what's going on?

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Speaker 5: Remember back in the old days when you would forget

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Speaker 5: to put your mic on?

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, put your mic on Rat, put your mic

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Speaker 2: on Fred.

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Speaker 5: Who was that kid to gender to gender Daniel to

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Speaker 5: gender fit in?

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Speaker 2: Well today anyway, Jesus, all right, it is Wednesday, first

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Speaker 2: Wednesday show off the regular. It is Wednesday here at

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Speaker 2: Jillette Stadium, and we're back to three days a week.

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Speaker 2: In case you haven't noticed, Uh, it's Paul, it's Deuce,

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Speaker 2: it's me. Evan will be by later because he's going

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Speaker 2: to where.

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Speaker 6: Well, I think he just did two hours of radio

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Speaker 6: and we all felt we'd save everybody from another two

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Speaker 6: hours of joking.

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Speaker 5: That's probably a reason.

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Speaker 2: That's a great one. He's gonna do a little Rabel.

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Speaker 7: He's gonna we're gonna do the locker room and.

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Speaker 2: Well, we're gonna go to Rabel to live. Everybody comes on.

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Speaker 6: Then I'll go to the locker room. He'll be come in,

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Speaker 6: he'll come in after practice. I'll report, so you know,

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Speaker 6: there'll be some comings and goings.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a lot of movement, a lot of a

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Speaker 2: lot of moving, moving stuff going on in today's show.

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Speaker 2: But here we are talking about week one. We kicked

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Speaker 2: it off yesterday, a lively show. Very are you excited?

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Speaker 2: Raiders coming to town? One o'clock tilt here at Jilette Stadium.

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Speaker 2: Weather's going to be beautiful.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it looked a little gray. I checked the forecast.

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Speaker 2: Now it's a little rainy.

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Speaker 7: But see was supposed to be really nice, but perhaps

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Speaker 7: perhaps wrong, you know, you know, New England, Paul, though

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Speaker 7: the weather changes.

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Speaker 5: If you don't like it, just wait a minute.

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Speaker 7: Wait a minute.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Patriot's still favored by about.

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Speaker 5: And a half till last I checked, was that.

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Speaker 2: Moved it all from the beginning. Was it three? Was it?

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Speaker 2: Has it gone up?

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Speaker 5: I do not know the answer to that question.

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Speaker 7: No, let's see.

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Speaker 6: I mean maybe today after see some of the first

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Speaker 6: injury report of the year, so perhaps that I.

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Speaker 2: Think you'll lose that half point because Gonzo was a

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Speaker 5: Could be you get three. Speaking of Gonzo, Yes, I

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Speaker 5: started to think a little bit about Fred's sort of subterfuge,

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Speaker 5: we see him? Do you think there's a chance you

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Speaker 5: whenever it comes out it' says Christian Gonzales Limited Limited. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: do you think there's a chance of that?

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Speaker 5: Well, and if so, okay, would that be your subterfuge?

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Speaker 5: Like the other way, like we're not going to hold

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Speaker 7: We're going to have We're going to have.

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Speaker 5: Practicing a little bit so the media sees him to

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Speaker 5: I don't necessarily think they're going through the motions. I

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Speaker 5: just don't think after missing five straight weeks of work,

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Speaker 5: I mean I guess you could, but I'd find that unlikely.

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Speaker 2: worry Aboudye just looked up like one of those morments marmots.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, what, what's what's going on?

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Speaker 2: Nothing's working?

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Speaker 5: You know what? Hey, hey Beth, if you just keep

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Speaker 5: hitting the buttons, maybe they'll start working.

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Speaker 7: You don't say that.

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Speaker 2: Like listen, I want to I want to say this.

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Speaker 2: It's this is based on nothing. I don't have any rumblings,

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Speaker 2: and some people might be even mad that I'm even

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Speaker 2: bringing it up. But what if, like this is a

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Speaker 2: contract thing, Like what if like no one neither side

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Speaker 2: I'm looking for an extension here.

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Speaker 5: Well, he can't get an extent, can't the third year

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Speaker 5: and surgery's got too compared to be three years in.

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Speaker 2: So this is his third year, but it have to

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Speaker 5: I mean, I don't think you're speculation is not showing

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Speaker 5: it for next year. That there's a line of thought

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Speaker 5: that this is related to his contract and that he's

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Speaker 5: not going to get back out there. Not that he

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Speaker 5: injured himself as part of some sort of elaborate contract negotiation,

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Speaker 5: but the line of thought is that he's dealing with

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Speaker 5: out there. A lot of people felt like sauce Gardo

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Speaker 5: did a little of this last year with the Jets.

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Speaker 5: Didn't have as good a year last year because he

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Speaker 5: was trying to make sure his focus was to make

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Speaker 5: better as Now, to me, that's kind of walked logic.

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Speaker 5: I'm not going to play as well as I can

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Speaker 5: As you don't know, But he doesn't.

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Speaker 2: Want to put anything on tape that would say that. No,

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Speaker 5: It worked for him. It worked for Sauce Gardner. He

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Speaker 5: in the league. But I don't necessarily buy it with Gonzo,

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Speaker 5: And I'll tell you why. I just think we've seen

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Speaker 5: he seems like he's really on board, really part of

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Speaker 5: going to protect myself here for with my contract in mind,

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Speaker 2: I mean, I suppose you could do it. The modern

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Speaker 6: Now, I hope not because it's just it's stupid, and

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Speaker 6: it's you know, I just told him me think those

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Speaker 7: You try to lay it out all perfectly, well.

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Speaker 6: I'm only going to go when I'm this, and you know,

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Speaker 6: ultimately you have to get ready for the season, and

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Speaker 6: the important thing would be to be out there if

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Speaker 6: you were able to. But to me, this reeks of

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Speaker 6: a hamstring injury that seemed like it was minor at first,

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Speaker 6: and it's lingered. And I think Paul's right to think

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Speaker 7: But it's hard for me to see him trying to

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Speaker 6: Power play now when he really only has one season

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Speaker 5: It reeks to me of, uh, just a setback. He

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Speaker 5: had to have had a setback. I think that's why

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Speaker 5: it's sort of changed, because everybody was really nothing to see, hear,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think they'll for it.

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Speaker 6: To your point, I would maybe bad money. He's gonna

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Speaker 6: you give him sorry that point, but at least put

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Speaker 6: hopefully he's at the point where keep him on. Let's

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Speaker 6: go do some conditioning after the mediately eves and we'll

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Speaker 6: do your work that way. But because if he's not

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Speaker 7: He's not playing.

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Speaker 5: See I don't think he's playing Sunday. But I do

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Speaker 5: think there's a chance that he's out there today as

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Speaker 5: just regular part of getting back into practice. He has

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Speaker 2: You can pass.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, well, just in general, what he has not practiced,

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Speaker 5: even in the walkthroughs Fred, he hasn't taken part in

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Speaker 5: And Mike, you might know the answer to this. Mike,

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Speaker 5: we have seen him do some conditioning on the field

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Speaker 2: We did it in Minnesota a little bit.

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Speaker 6: But I got to be honest, I don't really I

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Speaker 6: don't really remember it, to be honest, I.

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Speaker 5: Don't either, but everybody else is talking about it.

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Speaker 2: No, he was mooring up in Minnesota. You know, he

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Speaker 2: was out there doing you know, doing something, running around

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Speaker 2: and actually some sprints, and you know, then you'll wonder

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Speaker 2: if this something happened there.

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Speaker 5: Well, that's what I'm I think that there was some

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Speaker 7: Yeah, maybe that's where it was.

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Speaker 5: But I don't know when or how. But I felt

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Speaker 5: where he sort of he started to say, yeah, he's

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Speaker 5: he stopped short of saying that, yeah, it's been and

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Speaker 5: then he kind of went in a different direction. I

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Speaker 5: alluding to the fact that, yeah, there's been some bumps

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Speaker 5: along the way in this rehab process. But I do

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Speaker 5: think he's been rehabbing. I don't think this is Listen.

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Speaker 5: I don't want to say it has nothing to do

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Speaker 5: with contract, because let's face it, these guys and their

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Speaker 5: right to do it. They have to take care of themselves.

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Speaker 5: They're independent contractors, sure, right, So I don't want to

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Speaker 5: say has nothing to do with the contract. But I

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Speaker 5: don't think he's not practicing at all, because I'm not

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Speaker 5: going to practice until you know I'm one hundred percent,

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Speaker 5: you know, because I have to worry about my contract.

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Speaker 5: I don't think it's that blatant. And I really don't

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Speaker 5: think that was what Sauce Gardner did last year either,

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Speaker 2: playing and speaking of traditions, football fans know that traditions matter,

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Speaker 5: Tradition matters certainly does so. I enjoyed some tostitos on

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Speaker 2: Nothing better than myself.

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Speaker 5: And my empty nest I did I had. I had

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Speaker 5: Put some some shredded cheese on it. Nachos and I

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Speaker 5: I get the medium medium, I do. The hot is

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Speaker 5: That was your tostitos minute, brought to you by Fred Kersh.

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Speaker 6: I had the chips saying I went to rest the

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Speaker 2: But I was also iron the nacho where, Yeah, isn't

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Speaker 7: We went back there, Yeah, and yeah's good.

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Speaker 2: So anyway, all right, so there, so back to our discussion.

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Speaker 2: You call me back to our discussion. Yes, this will

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Speaker 5: I just was thinking, if you're in your scenario that

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Speaker 6: To play right right, there's a possibility I would at

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Speaker 2: Get Gonzo's back.

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Speaker 6: Gonzo's back, and even if he the second day leave,

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Speaker 2: There now, just so people know. Practice can be audited

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean I think he'd be limited no matter what.

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Speaker 2: I'm just going to assume he's not playing. I would agree, friend, Yeah,

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and I think it's it's not the worst week

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Speaker 6: just thinking about Bowers and maybe thinking about putting a

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Speaker 6: Everything that gets not the passing league.

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Speaker 5: And it's never good not to have your best player availed.

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Speaker 5: Right, I mean, it's a significant part of the team.

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Speaker 5: But I would agree with you. Next week, you're going

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Speaker 2: I do think that we touched on it yesterday. We

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Speaker 6: I think it's a perfect week one kind of thing

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Speaker 7: You know, feed this guy.

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Speaker 7: Would use him to test everything that the Patriots are

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Speaker 5: He's not going to run by design. He's going to

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you get prepared for the comparisons. So the Patriots

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Speaker 7: You know, I told you I tried. Guys. Now, I'm

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Speaker 5: Come you're the only one allowed to have arguments before

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Speaker 2: That's already happened. But when I think I made that up.

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Speaker 5: But you just said, but you literally just say get

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Speaker 5: He's not one to argue ahead of time when I

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Speaker 7: He knows what's coming.

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Speaker 6: He was Josh's defensive coordinator. That guy's got a pretty

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Speaker 6: I think it was David Andrews just spoke to Andrew Callahan.

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Speaker 7: And you know what's going on with the Raiders.

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Speaker 7: So so many more unknowns I think.

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Speaker 2: With well, and Pete Carroll is no slouch himself when

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Speaker 6: Yeah, And I mean even I mean I saw with

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Speaker 6: But yeah, It's just a lot of interesting matchups, and

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Speaker 7: Of different things going on with all the different stories.

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Speaker 5: Kelly's a real X factor too. I have no idea

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Speaker 5: It's a new quarterback in a new system, and Chip

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Speaker 2: You got to believe that in the NFL every team,

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Speaker 7: It happens a lot, and.

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Speaker 2: You know, you know, they're not out there with binoculars

440
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Speaker 2: or a notepad, but they're looking and they're you know,

441
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Speaker 2: just committing it to memory and then making a phone

442
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Speaker 2: call when they're done. Yeah, this is what I saw.

443
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Speaker 2: Don't you wouldn't you do that?

444
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Speaker 6: I would surely practices like ours where you just all.

445
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Speaker 2: The practices are like that. They're the only ones in the.

446
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Speaker 5: Past that charge with the Washington try to and then

447
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Speaker 5: and then by doing that, you have to allow the

448
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Speaker 5: scouts in.

449
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Speaker 2: Okay, So like anyone can walk into these practices and

450
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Speaker 2: I don't know, like Paul could walk in and his

451
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Speaker 2: blue shirt to the Raiders practice and they don't know

452
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Speaker 2: what he's doing. Well, you think he's a fan.

453
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Speaker 6: But the flip side of it, if you were here,

454
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Speaker 6: would you hire somebody to watch the stands and kind

455
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Speaker 6: of audit what's going on in the story.

456
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Speaker 2: Like I said, you're not sitting there with binoculars in

457
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Speaker 2: a notepad. I put them in a Raider shirt, make

458
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Speaker 2: them look like a fan and you're just watching with

459
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Speaker 2: everyone else. But you're watching with a keen eye for

460
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Speaker 2: what you're seeing and then you report back afterwards, like

461
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Speaker 2: a lot of these guys. Now, you can't believe every

462
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Speaker 2: team is not doing that.

463
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Speaker 7: Good question.

464
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Speaker 2: You only have to look at what eight opponents, right.

465
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Speaker 7: I mean definitely the ones that you know, how.

466
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Speaker 2: Many if you look at the what we played three

467
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Speaker 2: teams twice, so that's three so fourteen opponents? You know? Okay, yeah, yeah,

468
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Speaker 2: you only have to you only have to have like.

469
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Speaker 5: We only have eight games seventeen. But no, no, you

470
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Speaker 5: have to worry abody.

471
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Speaker 6: What would you if you were the Patriots doing would

472
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Speaker 6: you have to go to the Bills and Dolphins? You

473
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Speaker 6: already kind of know, and that seems an unnecessary risk?

474
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Speaker 2: Why not?

475
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Speaker 7: Yeah, everybody?

476
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Speaker 2: Why not?

477
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Speaker 5: I know, if you were here every day, what would

478
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Speaker 5: you if the raider? What would you think the Raiders

479
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Speaker 5: would have gleaned from being here every day?

480
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Speaker 3: Well?

481
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Speaker 7: The Patriots going to do I don't know, probably more

482
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Speaker 7: than we can tell. You know, they probably have.

483
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Speaker 2: They're looking at the stuff that we're not allowed to report, formations,

484
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Speaker 2: things like that. You know, I just would say we

485
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Speaker 2: were there, you know, play a grouping, Yeah, situational groupings.

486
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Speaker 5: I just feel like I kind of know that stuff.

487
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Speaker 2: I don't know.

488
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Speaker 7: I mean, it's part of the question.

489
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Speaker 6: I think it's I mean, I don't know if it's

490
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Speaker 6: is the juice worth the squeeze that they are the

491
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Speaker 6: league telling them you can't do this?

492
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Speaker 7: Is there an unwritten rules, don't.

493
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Speaker 2: I'm sure there is an unwritten rule that it's not

494
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Speaker 2: good sportsmanship. But like I would do it, and I

495
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Speaker 2: think every team should do it. I don't think that

496
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Speaker 2: you should not do it.

497
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Speaker 6: I just would worry that everyone in the league knows

498
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Speaker 6: each other, and to put someone onto this task, they

499
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Speaker 6: would need to have a foundation of knowledge so they

500
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Speaker 6: understand what they're seeing.

501
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Speaker 7: What's important.

502
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Speaker 6: So it's hard to find somebody that nobody knows. And

503
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Speaker 6: just that chance that you know, want somebody on.

504
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Speaker 2: Well, that's a good part.

505
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Speaker 6: I know, this guy works with the colts out there.

506
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Speaker 2: You're doing a good point.

507
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Speaker 7: And he's got the you know, the mister McGoo glasses.

508
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Speaker 2: You have to have a certain level of knowledge, and

509
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Speaker 2: if you have that certain level of knowledge, people might

510
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Speaker 2: know you.

511
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Speaker 5: And yeah, my bigger point was I feel like for

512
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Speaker 5: the most part, the game plan oriented stuff doesn't happen

513
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Speaker 5: in training camp. It happens once the practice is.

514
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Speaker 2: You're not looking for what they're going to do against us,

515
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Speaker 2: but you're looking at in third down and short this

516
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Speaker 2: is the grouping that they're using.

517
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Speaker 6: Well, what about a joint practice, which I mean, is

518
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Speaker 6: that like is that a little bit more You're seeing

519
00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:28,399
Speaker 6: two teams maybe and not seeing game planning, but you

520
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Speaker 6: are everything a little bit closer to what reality is.

521
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Speaker 5: I get what Paul's saying though that I'm not saying

522
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Speaker 5: there's real value and it I didn't poo pooh Fred's theory.

523
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Speaker 5: I just I think in order to really know what

524
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Speaker 5: a team is going to do, yeah, yeah, I think

525
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Speaker 5: that's behind closed doors. I don't think teams are doing

526
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Speaker 5: exactly what they're going to do every you know what

527
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Speaker 5: I mean, right, But they're kind of hiding some of

528
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Speaker 5: that stuff knowing that the practices are open and that

529
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Speaker 5: fans are videoing and putting them on Twitter and whatnot.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, we'll get we'll get what we need from thanks

531
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Speaker 6: to the fans that are putting the legals of them

532
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Speaker 6: on the internet.

533
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Speaker 7: But I I mean, I I I don't know.

534
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Speaker 6: I think that there probably are teams to do it though,

535
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Speaker 6: because as we know listen.

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Speaker 5: I wouldn't be doing That's why I didn't pooh poop

537
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Speaker 5: friends a whole theory. I wouldn't be surprised if teams

538
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Speaker 5: do it.

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Speaker 2: There's an old story about when the Raiders practice I

540
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Speaker 2: forget whether it was la or or Oakland. Their practice

541
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Speaker 2: field was surrounded by hills and there were houses on

542
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Speaker 2: the hills. And somebody was talking to Al Davis. Is

543
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Speaker 2: aren't you worried about like people being in those He goes,

544
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Speaker 2: I bought them. You bought the houses, so the Raiders

545
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Speaker 2: own them. You know, it sounds like some Davis. And

546
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Speaker 2: even here, you know, we've got the hotel. What's to

547
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Speaker 2: stop somebody from getting you know, the highest room? What's that? Oh? Okay,

548
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Speaker 2: let's go to Rabela.

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Speaker 8: That's what's been recording for seven minutes. I wonder if

550
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Speaker 8: there's anything good on there? Yeah, what do you guys

551
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Speaker 8: talk about it here? Before we get started?

552
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Speaker 9: I doubt that Mark has told me about your.

553
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Speaker 8: Podcast beautiful take advantage of it?

554
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Speaker 3: Teresa? Are sorry, Carol? Well, it happens right like that?

555
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Speaker 9: Can we are we expecting to have Christian out there?

556
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Speaker 3: And if you don't?

557
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Speaker 5: Uh?

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Speaker 3: Is it safe to say?

559
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Speaker 4: Who's who won't reveil.

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Speaker 3: Well, I wouldn't say that.

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Speaker 8: You know, well, he's continuing to work and he'll do

562
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Speaker 8: you know, some stuff on the side, but I you know,

563
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Speaker 8: I'm not gonna rule anybody out stays.

564
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Speaker 3: He just made an announcement about the injury report.

565
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Speaker 8: So well, we'll continue to work and treat and make

566
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Speaker 8: sure that we're doing everything and that we can to

567
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Speaker 8: help him, and he's doing everything he can to to

568
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Speaker 8: get back out on the field. That that's the only

569
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Speaker 8: update I have right now.

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Speaker 3: We won't see him today, or it didn't sound now,

571
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Speaker 3: didn't sound like it. He continue to avoid ir that possibility.

572
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Speaker 3: So no, he just won't be out there today. Mark. Uh,

573
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Speaker 3: you know, I can't tell you much other than that.

574
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Speaker 5: So how much does a guy.

575
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Speaker 2: Like him needs to practice before you feel comfortable blaing

576
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Speaker 2: in the game.

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Speaker 8: It won't be today, So I apologize, but you know

578
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Speaker 8: that's where it'll be. Like I mean, I do like

579
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Speaker 8: where he's at from an engagement standpoint.

580
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Speaker 3: We've been through this with other players.

581
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Speaker 8: And like where he's at from that standpoint in the meetings.

582
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Speaker 3: Locked in.

583
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Speaker 8: Falling along a practice which is difficult, which is difficult

584
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Speaker 8: to think that a player that's not in there can

585
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Speaker 8: follow along. I've been through that as a player and

586
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Speaker 8: a coach, and I think he's done a nice job

587
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Speaker 8: of being able to do that.

588
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Speaker 3: Quick.

589
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Speaker 7: Is it important for players to get to one hundred?

590
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Speaker 3: Is every player different?

591
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Speaker 8: Because well, every player, I mean, we don't. I don't

592
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Speaker 8: use percentages. Again, I'll remind you what we talked about

593
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Speaker 8: as far as when I try to make decisions about

594
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Speaker 8: players and returning.

595
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Speaker 3: One. Can can they make it worse?

596
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Speaker 10: One?

597
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Speaker 3: Can they to protect themselves?

598
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Speaker 8: We can all say what we want about this game,

599
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Speaker 8: but you know, I mean it's violent.

600
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Speaker 3: And can you protect yourself?

601
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Speaker 8: And can you do your job up to the standard

602
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Speaker 8: that we expect and that the that the player is

603
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Speaker 8: used to. So those are the things that I've tried

604
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Speaker 8: to use when making decisions. Maybe I'll add some to that,

605
00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:36,040
Speaker 8: but that's what I've tried to use in my other

606
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Speaker 8: experience in this position.

607
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Speaker 2: Like the initial reports, and I know that it didn't

608
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Speaker 2: come from you.

609
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Speaker 3: With the initial h I.

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Speaker 8: Mean, please, guys, I mean we we have this is

611
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Speaker 8: the first Wednesday of the season, and he's not going.

612
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Speaker 3: To be at practice, and I just please use your.

613
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Speaker 8: Time as efficiently as we can about our team about

614
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Speaker 8: the Raiders, and I know Christian is a large part

615
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Speaker 8: of our team, but he's not going to be out

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Speaker 8: there today.

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Speaker 3: So that's all I can update you with. Do have

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Speaker 3: anything else since I cut you off?

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Speaker 11: Yeah, well I got to read about the Raiders this week,

620
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Speaker 11: so yeah, I know one is always tricky, but the

621
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Speaker 11: fact that they bring in Geno.

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Speaker 5: They have ashen.

623
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Speaker 8: Terrific young skill players. I mean Brock Bauers plays like

624
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:26,240
Speaker 8: a wide receiver. He's a willing blocker, gentee, powerful, fast,

625
00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:29,440
Speaker 8: continues to move his feet after contact, breaks a lot

626
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Speaker 8: of tackles, you know, speed on the outside, savviness with

627
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:37,639
Speaker 8: Myers big physical offensive line.

628
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Speaker 3: So that'll be a challenge when you talk about that.

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Speaker 8: Gino really does a nice job of taking care of

630
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Speaker 8: the football or a very good completion percentage, so he

631
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:49,920
Speaker 8: knows where he wants to go with football.

632
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Speaker 2: Like following that up a little bit during a first week,

633
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Speaker 2: how tough is it to get ready for opponent with

634
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Speaker 2: a first year coach?

635
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Speaker 3: Do you have to go back to what Pete has

636
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Speaker 3: done with other teams?

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Speaker 8: Well, I mean they have they have a first year

638
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:05,560
Speaker 8: defensive coach with a coordinator that's been there and done stuff.

639
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:08,400
Speaker 8: And then they have a new offensive coordinator who's been

640
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Speaker 8: in the NFL and has also come from the Ohio

641
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Speaker 8: State University. And so that's a pretty unique, i think,

642
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:19,680
Speaker 8: blend of what we have to try to anticipate. We're

643
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:21,920
Speaker 8: not going to be there's going to be numerous plays

644
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:25,160
Speaker 8: in the game that we won't have seen or we

645
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:27,440
Speaker 8: won't have run in practice in this preparation.

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Speaker 3: That's how it goes.

647
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Speaker 8: I mean, that's gonna be like that every week, but

648
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 8: just trying to get themes and concepts and ideas of

649
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:43,240
Speaker 8: what they may want to do defensively with Pat and

650
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:47,040
Speaker 8: Pete's style and scheme, and then what they may want

651
00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:51,320
Speaker 8: to do from offensively from what Chip's done in the

652
00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:53,720
Speaker 8: past in the NFL, for what he's done in college,

653
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 8: and what Gino likes. Certainly quarterbacks in this league, you know,

654
00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:00,800
Speaker 8: like things, and we'll get get things at it. So

655
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:03,600
Speaker 8: I'm sure there'll be things that he's liked that that

656
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:07,360
Speaker 8: they'll run from, from plays he liked in Seattle.

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Speaker 3: Carol that over.

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Speaker 9: While I think goes you pack ramp and see Josh

659
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:16,200
Speaker 9: m Pana's offense a million times and being here Patriots

660
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:19,440
Speaker 9: and Josh will also tap piece defense in different ways.

661
00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 9: Walls playoff games becaust graphic defense. With the Chargers, do

662
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:28,400
Speaker 9: you try and game out how they'll we act what

663
00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 9: you're doing, et cetera.

664
00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:30,440
Speaker 2: Do you do well?

665
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:32,160
Speaker 8: The one thing you don't want to be is too cute,

666
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:36,480
Speaker 8: certainly in week one or at any time, and think, well,

667
00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:38,000
Speaker 8: they know and they think we're going to do this,

668
00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:40,320
Speaker 8: so that we're going to do this, And I mean

669
00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:43,000
Speaker 8: I think we have to you know, be really sound

670
00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:48,440
Speaker 8: and and use our rules and you know, if we

671
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:50,640
Speaker 8: see something that that's new, you know, we have to

672
00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:53,960
Speaker 8: keep our composure and and keep our poise and and

673
00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:56,360
Speaker 8: figure out ways to make it work.

674
00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:02,760
Speaker 3: Season Les, did you say what person? Yes?

675
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:06,160
Speaker 9: Just what did you see as the leaders?

676
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:10,560
Speaker 8: I mean really by example, just his is the way

677
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:15,200
Speaker 8: that his his practice habits his professionalism, I would say,

678
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 8: And then you know his performance on the field and

679
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:21,560
Speaker 8: what he does and how he plays. So really like

680
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:24,560
Speaker 8: being around Marcus, like the person who is he is

681
00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:25,479
Speaker 8: and the player that he is.

682
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:27,840
Speaker 12: Like I know in Tennessee, you would identify three or

683
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:30,720
Speaker 12: four things the team had to do for every game

684
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:32,640
Speaker 12: in order to win. These kind of keys to what

685
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:35,040
Speaker 12: now have you done that already this weekend? If so,

686
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 12: is that something you'll share with us?

687
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 8: Yes, we have, and know we won't. You know, you

688
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:44,800
Speaker 8: don't want to get too convoluted and just try to

689
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:47,040
Speaker 8: make sure that the players that are seeing it the

690
00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:49,280
Speaker 8: same way as we do. After all the film and

691
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 8: you know, things that we think are going to be

692
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:55,320
Speaker 8: important this week and having been through it, It's not

693
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:57,880
Speaker 8: like I want him to memorize and have to look down.

694
00:31:57,920 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 3: I wanted to understand how.

695
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:01,960
Speaker 8: How they're in their position, what they can do to

696
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:06,640
Speaker 8: help us execute those keys. And so it's not just

697
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:09,280
Speaker 8: a blanket and broad statement. It's like, how does my

698
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:11,280
Speaker 8: job as a left guard, or how does my job

699
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:15,280
Speaker 8: as a you know, a safety or a nickel help

700
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:18,440
Speaker 8: us execute these keys or what we're trying to get

701
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:19,440
Speaker 8: done on special teams?

702
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 10: Erland known for his Color three defense and then ship

703
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:24,600
Speaker 10: Kelly's kind of known for his up temple offense.

704
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:26,320
Speaker 2: Is that sill theication and perspective?

705
00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:27,200
Speaker 3: And are there any ways that.

706
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:29,640
Speaker 7: Those systems have evolved since you know less some of those.

707
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:32,640
Speaker 8: Kinds of mo Yeah, man, they you know, Pete's done

708
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:35,520
Speaker 8: it for a long time and you know they have

709
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:39,920
Speaker 8: their adjustment. When you run something extensively or the majority

710
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:44,720
Speaker 8: of the time, you have to have answers, right because

711
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 8: you know, you know that people are going to try

712
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:49,880
Speaker 8: to scheme you, and you have to be able to

713
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:52,840
Speaker 8: have answers. They've evolved and done a great job and

714
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:54,960
Speaker 8: have answers and different ways to play things that they

715
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:58,960
Speaker 8: want to do. And then they have their their changeups

716
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 8: and their mixers. And then certainly Chips offense has expanded

717
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:07,880
Speaker 8: and grown. I mean Chip Chip used to call it

718
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:10,800
Speaker 8: on an index card. It's seven plays and you know,

719
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:12,520
Speaker 8: they just were really good at them and they went

720
00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:16,400
Speaker 8: really fast. And so I think that that's all evolved

721
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:18,160
Speaker 8: from the stuff at U c l A, from stuff

722
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 8: at Ohio State to what he'll he'll do with you know,

723
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:27,080
Speaker 8: those skilled players that we mentioned with with the Raiders

724
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:32,840
Speaker 8: said on the team to a second half, Yeah, called

725
00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:34,520
Speaker 8: you a coach your players.

726
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:35,600
Speaker 3: Out to reach that expectation.

727
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 8: Well, I think conditioning, I think an emphasis, I think

728
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:39,680
Speaker 8: taking a break.

729
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:42,640
Speaker 3: And that's a good question. I appreciate that.

730
00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:44,880
Speaker 8: And you know, we actually put a break in there

731
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 8: and at the midway through practice where we have two

732
00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:50,240
Speaker 8: team periods left, and I said, you know, you guys

733
00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:52,360
Speaker 8: are gonna think this is some gimmick, but it's gonna

734
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 8: be me saying, hey, coaches, get together, tell them listen,

735
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:56,240
Speaker 8: this is.

736
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:58,479
Speaker 3: What you know, it's how practice started. Whatever's going on.

737
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:01,560
Speaker 8: Just be conscious here to a strong win the second half,

738
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 8: win the second half. And yeah, I think it's just

739
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:08,200
Speaker 8: a good reminder and in working on our conditioning, like

740
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 8: regarding put.

741
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:11,880
Speaker 2: The tempo play in the second half and the Chips

742
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:13,520
Speaker 2: offensive style and fast.

743
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 8: Well, I mean it's not. I don't think it's as

744
00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 8: breaking there and maybe it will be. I mean we'll see,

745
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:20,239
Speaker 8: but I mean it I you know, I think it's

746
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:23,239
Speaker 8: a little different than probably what it was and in Philadelphia.

747
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:24,680
Speaker 8: And if it is, if you know, we'll have to

748
00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:26,200
Speaker 8: be ready for it. But go ahead, Okay.

749
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 3: In a way, it's it's the first full game. So

750
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:29,960
Speaker 3: these guys are wanting to play this year or so

751
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:32,799
Speaker 3: for more football in the ships year. How does it

752
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 3: affect substitution shoots? Everybody will have to play.

753
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:38,200
Speaker 8: I mean everybody has to play every game and be

754
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:40,839
Speaker 8: ready to play. And you know the ones that are

755
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:43,239
Speaker 8: in condition and they are playing the way that we

756
00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:48,040
Speaker 8: uh expect them to, well, we'll stay in there. And

757
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:49,759
Speaker 8: then when they're not, then they'll have to get a

758
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 8: break and put the next guy in there like we've

759
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:55,240
Speaker 8: always done, might have a fast.

760
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 3: Out like they growth being cross.

761
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:06,800
Speaker 7: Confident and that man who being ready to go the

762
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 7: girl for the top of the game.

763
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:12,480
Speaker 3: Majority of the US. Yeah, I mean, I'm confident.

764
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 8: I think Mo's worked extremely hard and don't exactly what

765
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:16,760
Speaker 8: we've asked them.

766
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:19,719
Speaker 3: To do, and has been involved in a lot of

767
00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:24,520
Speaker 3: their reps. Sorry, go ahead full off season with him.

768
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:24,840
Speaker 3: Just us.

769
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:27,280
Speaker 5: Where has dream they sed up most off the field

770
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:27,440
Speaker 5: to you?

771
00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 3: Well, I think his command in the meetings. I think.

772
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:35,880
Speaker 8: The reach to the locker room, the reach of the

773
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 8: players and stuff off the field, being engaged in that

774
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:43,280
Speaker 8: way and knowing how important that particular position is, uh

775
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:46,480
Speaker 8: in all three phases on special teams, and the impact

776
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:48,280
Speaker 8: that that he can make as the quarterback.

777
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:49,719
Speaker 3: Thank you.

778
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:57,879
Speaker 2: Okay, that was Mike Vrabel Live. So I don't think

779
00:35:57,880 --> 00:35:59,719
Speaker 2: it's going to get out a little uh yeah, we're

780
00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:02,120
Speaker 2: not gonna again a subterfuge. He came right out and

781
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:05,200
Speaker 2: said he's unpracticing today, so he's not playing. Yeah.

782
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:07,799
Speaker 7: Yeah, I liked he was echoing some of our talk

783
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:09,520
Speaker 7: that we had earlier on the coaching staff and.

784
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:11,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, I sniffed in the middle of the press conference,

785
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:13,839
Speaker 5: Mike and I just gave ourselves a little hat tip

786
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:15,919
Speaker 5: to each to one another for all of our talk

787
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:19,680
Speaker 5: about all the newness. Yeah, and Chip Kelly.

788
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:23,399
Speaker 7: And a brand ensemble staffs of how it's the connections.

789
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:25,360
Speaker 5: New coaches, a lot of unknowns the Ohio.

790
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:27,920
Speaker 2: It's a good matchup. It's a good.

791
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 5: Week one matchup.

792
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:29,200
Speaker 2: Yeah.

793
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:32,080
Speaker 5: You know two teams that struggled a year ago that

794
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:35,279
Speaker 5: both figure they both think that they've improved and they're

795
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:38,239
Speaker 5: going to get better with new coaching staffs. It's a

796
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:39,879
Speaker 5: good week one matchup. I agree with Freddy.

797
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 2: I think the big difference is the Patriots are working

798
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:45,480
Speaker 2: with a quarterback where they think Ope is the future.

799
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:47,840
Speaker 2: That is a big difference, and they have a bridge

800
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:49,040
Speaker 2: quarterback if you will.

801
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, that is a big difference.

802
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:50,919
Speaker 2: Yeah.

803
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:53,479
Speaker 6: I think the Raiders rank higher on the all time

804
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:57,239
Speaker 6: Patriots rivalry list than maybe people might acknowledge.

805
00:36:57,280 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 2: Just historically.

806
00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 7: I think a lot of people know the two thousands

807
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:00,399
Speaker 7: to one.

808
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 5: I have them very high on.

809
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 6: For teams the outside of the division, I don't really

810
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:08,080
Speaker 6: know any.

811
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 2: Particularly if you go back to the seventies. As a fan,

812
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 2: you hated the Raiders, hated them. That's what I've been.

813
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:16,720
Speaker 2: But but now it's like, you know, you know, it's

814
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:19,440
Speaker 2: we kind of have the The big game is the

815
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:22,640
Speaker 2: one that the Patriots won with the Raiders recently. You know,

816
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:24,799
Speaker 2: so like I don't two thousand and one game, like

817
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:26,759
Speaker 2: I could care less about it. I couldn't care less

818
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:27,400
Speaker 2: about the Raiders.

819
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:31,600
Speaker 5: It's two thousand and one recent, it's modern. I mean,

820
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:34,480
Speaker 5: it's certainly more recent than any of the rais success

821
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:35,760
Speaker 5: Patriots history.

822
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:38,440
Speaker 2: You know, there's like the ancient Patriots history and the

823
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:41,800
Speaker 2: modern Patriots history. And I don't think that the Raiders

824
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 2: are a big rival in the modern Patriots history.

825
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:50,760
Speaker 5: No, it's the modern Patriots history. Who's the rival the Patriots?

826
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:52,400
Speaker 2: Well, what was the Colts for a while?

827
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 5: Right now again you got to go back fifteen years.

828
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:55,920
Speaker 7: Yeah, the Dolphins.

829
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:59,360
Speaker 2: But right now, like you know, we launched our rivalry's

830
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:03,319
Speaker 2: line of clothing last week, and the Jets was the

831
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:06,400
Speaker 2: game that you know, the league chose as the rivals.

832
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:07,960
Speaker 2: I don't know if the league or we chose it,

833
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:10,640
Speaker 2: but it's hard to say. Who are the Patriots' rivals?

834
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:13,279
Speaker 5: And I like that kind of stuff because it's subjective. Yeah,

835
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:15,480
Speaker 5: you know. And for me, when I go back to

836
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:18,799
Speaker 5: what Fred's talking about, the Raiders and the Steelers, I

837
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:21,400
Speaker 5: hated in the seventies. I hated them, you know, because

838
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:23,759
Speaker 5: they were good. I mean, it's it's obvious why, you know,

839
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:26,279
Speaker 5: they were the good teams. And then you know, for

840
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 5: the division, it was Miami because the Patriots could never

841
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:34,399
Speaker 5: beat Miami, especially in Miami. But then you know, once

842
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:38,280
Speaker 5: the Patriots, you know, got the dynasty, it was the Colts.

843
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 5: The Colts and the Steelers, you know, will go back

844
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:44,640
Speaker 5: and forth, you know, and you didn't necessarily think of

845
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:46,879
Speaker 5: Miami in the same way because Miami wasn't really all

846
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:51,400
Speaker 5: that good in the post Schula Marino years. Miami was

847
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:54,560
Speaker 5: always a disappointment and it never really could get over

848
00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:54,959
Speaker 5: the hump.

849
00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:57,200
Speaker 6: Just I've been diving into, you know, doing a thing

850
00:38:57,200 --> 00:38:59,080
Speaker 6: for eighty five. But looking at the seventies, and you

851
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:02,480
Speaker 6: had Sugabar Hamilton game in seventy six, then you had

852
00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:05,160
Speaker 6: you know, TERRYL. Stingley got paralyzed out there in the

853
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:08,200
Speaker 6: pre season in seventy eight. They did have to go

854
00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:10,120
Speaker 6: back out there and win, but you know, then the

855
00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:14,000
Speaker 6: controversy between the ownership group and the Sullivans hating Al

856
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:18,480
Speaker 6: Davis and them going back and forth. Eighty five, Patrick

857
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:20,879
Speaker 6: Sullivan getting punch, which I got to talk to him about,

858
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 6: which was great. But yeah, and it was just like

859
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:24,759
Speaker 6: all those things were percolating and then you had a

860
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:27,040
Speaker 6: long gap and then O one happened. And I think

861
00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:28,600
Speaker 6: to a lot of fans, they look at that is

862
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:30,440
Speaker 6: a little bit in a bubble, and I kind of

863
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:31,640
Speaker 6: look at it differently.

864
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:33,920
Speaker 7: Now really, having looked back at those seventies, they're just

865
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:35,960
Speaker 7: how much there was and it was a win a

866
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:36,600
Speaker 7: long period.

867
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:38,480
Speaker 2: Look at it now, like, how do you look at it?

868
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:39,960
Speaker 6: Like I said, like I brought it up, it's one

869
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:41,360
Speaker 6: of their biggest historical rivals.

870
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:43,759
Speaker 2: And even though there's you know, ebbs and flows to it.

871
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 6: Over the last forty fifty years, especially in the seventies,

872
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:48,960
Speaker 6: like you guys said, and into the eighties, there was

873
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:51,480
Speaker 6: you know, no rivalry bet bigger, and you know, to

874
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:53,759
Speaker 6: go out there in eighty five and beat them, like

875
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:56,640
Speaker 6: there was so much on that with guys like Steve

876
00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 6: Nelson and you know that had been around for a

877
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:01,239
Speaker 6: while that remembered those games in the seventies and you know,

878
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:02,720
Speaker 6: still held a little bit of a grudge.

879
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:03,560
Speaker 7: But I will say it's funny.

880
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:05,719
Speaker 6: It's like we talk about the sugar Bear Hamilton thing

881
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:07,640
Speaker 6: where it's like, now, like that's a penalty all day,

882
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:11,480
Speaker 6: but you also see like penalties all day happening everywhere

883
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:13,320
Speaker 6: on the field constantly during.

884
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:17,000
Speaker 2: Those games, where it's like that's AsSalt what would be penalties?

885
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:18,440
Speaker 7: Right, you guys getting.

886
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:20,920
Speaker 2: So it's like one of those clothesline was like you

887
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Speaker 2: could I.

888
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:24,200
Speaker 6: Know, I'm also reading I'm reading the you know, doctor

889
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Speaker 6: Z's got the Book of Modern Guide to Thinking.

890
00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:29,040
Speaker 7: Thinking Man's can't get an awesome book.

891
00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:30,280
Speaker 2: I mean, it's just so much.

892
00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:33,320
Speaker 7: Truth in it, written in the mid eighties about everything

893
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:34,880
Speaker 7: that that we talk about.

894
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:37,480
Speaker 6: But you know, he talked about the head slap and

895
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:39,000
Speaker 6: when they got rid of the head slap and how

896
00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:41,080
Speaker 6: that was such a big thing for defensive lineman, like

897
00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:43,360
Speaker 6: you can't just give someone a right hook.

898
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:44,040
Speaker 7: To the head anymore.

899
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:45,960
Speaker 2: You know that that change and made it harder for

900
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:48,440
Speaker 2: believing it wasn't just a slap. They they were talking

901
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:52,840
Speaker 2: about you get a concussion.

902
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:56,560
Speaker 5: I don't know if you guys following you know, everybody

903
00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:59,480
Speaker 5: has all kinds of different stuff that ends up, you know,

904
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:03,759
Speaker 5: in their feeds on the various social media networks. This guy,

905
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:07,840
Speaker 5: Kevin Gallagher, he does a lot of historical football clips,

906
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:10,880
Speaker 5: which is as you guys would guess, right up my alley,

907
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:14,040
Speaker 5: you know, I just I love this stuff. But earlier

908
00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 5: this week there was an anniversary of the NFL sort

909
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:21,239
Speaker 5: of modernizing the pass defense in terms of bump and run.

910
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:24,359
Speaker 5: It was like the mel Blunt rule. Mel Blunt used

911
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 5: to kill guys all the way down the field, and

912
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:30,000
Speaker 5: you can't do that anymore, you know, and.

913
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:31,320
Speaker 2: You can't take someone's life anywhere.

914
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:36,839
Speaker 5: But you look at it now, right and you'd be like, well, Jesus,

915
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:40,440
Speaker 5: he touched him seven yards downfield, you can't. That's a

916
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:43,759
Speaker 5: legal contact, right. Like back in the day there was

917
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:47,840
Speaker 5: like literal physical contact between the cornerbacks and the receivers

918
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:49,480
Speaker 5: all the way down the field. There was like bump

919
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:52,800
Speaker 5: and run literally all the way down the field. And

920
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:55,480
Speaker 5: they outlawed it. And like I think it was seventy eight,

921
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:58,120
Speaker 5: you know, with the advent of the sixteen game schedule,

922
00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:00,239
Speaker 5: and that's why they were sort of there was a

923
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:03,600
Speaker 5: whole bunch of rules changes and the schedule expanded from

924
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Speaker 5: fourteen to.

925
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Speaker 2: thing I want to talk about this is an around ride.

936
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Speaker 2: Right you go run, you go run. Paul and Ile, well,

937
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:49,160
Speaker 2: we'll take care of Yesterday, we're talking about the picks

938
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:52,000
Speaker 2: contests or the picks that we do on Thursday, and

939
00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:55,719
Speaker 2: how do you get fans involved and all that. Of course,

940
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:58,279
Speaker 2: immediately after the show, I got emails from fans, Oh

941
00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:00,439
Speaker 2: you should do this, you should do that. A couple

942
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:04,320
Speaker 2: fans offered their services in creating an app or something

943
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 2: to do. There was one guy that yesterday said he

944
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:11,160
Speaker 2: could write something, but it wouldn't be ready for next show.

945
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 2: I said, yeah, go ahead and start it. But since then,

946
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:19,879
Speaker 2: Boston Cream has sent us something that he created, kind

947
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:22,879
Speaker 2: of an app, and it'll be ready for next show.

948
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 2: So Mattic, can you hear me? Are you in there? Yeah?

949
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:28,480
Speaker 2: So why don't we tell Tom who I told yesterday?

950
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:31,239
Speaker 2: Go ahead and do that. Call the dogs off with him,

951
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 2: and let's use this thing with Boston Cream. So between

952
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:39,400
Speaker 2: now and tomorrow, figure out how we can present that

953
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:44,400
Speaker 2: to fans, tell them what to do and how it'll work, okay,

954
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:47,839
Speaker 2: and then we'll incorporate it into the show tomorrow. So

955
00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:51,440
Speaker 2: this looks pretty good. I'm looking at it. Boston Cream

956
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:54,960
Speaker 2: sent me some photo some shots of it.

957
00:43:57,000 --> 00:44:00,279
Speaker 5: All right, you guys got to turn your mics down there.

958
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:03,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, so we'll have something with that. I just wanted

959
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:06,360
Speaker 2: to get Boston Cream. Let him know as soon as possible,

960
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:09,360
Speaker 2: Let Tom know that he can stop writing his code.

961
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 2: Oh we have code. I don't know how he was

962
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:12,880
Speaker 2: writing it in written.

963
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:14,880
Speaker 5: So this is for the fans contest.

964
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:16,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is separate.

965
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:19,799
Speaker 5: So I still have to do my sheet. Oh yeah, okay,

966
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:21,799
Speaker 5: because I know, I know you like my sheets yeah,

967
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:23,360
Speaker 5: I know, you still have to do your shoes like

968
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:24,719
Speaker 5: to make fun of the dinosaur for right.

969
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:28,000
Speaker 2: This is assumably the fans will go on this app

970
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:31,000
Speaker 2: and they'll do their picks, and then on the next

971
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:34,440
Speaker 2: show I'll use that to say, okay, you know, uh

972
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:37,919
Speaker 2: so and so did the best Okay, yeah, and they'll

973
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:39,239
Speaker 2: be like a leader board and all that.

974
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:42,439
Speaker 5: I see what you're saying. Yeah, sounds good. Yep, sounds good.

975
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:45,440
Speaker 2: Okay. What were you saying before? Nothing?

976
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:48,800
Speaker 5: But we do have the opener tomorrow night, oh yeah,

977
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:50,960
Speaker 5: which I'm really looking forward to the start of the season.

978
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:53,879
Speaker 5: I have no real interest whatsoever in that game tomorrow night, though.

979
00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:56,400
Speaker 2: Who is it Philly in Dallas? Why not?

980
00:44:57,040 --> 00:45:00,680
Speaker 5: Because of exactly that? You know, my no hatred of

981
00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:01,759
Speaker 5: divisional games.

982
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:03,680
Speaker 2: I know, but like these are two well at least

983
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:06,360
Speaker 2: Philly is a team that should be a playoff contender.

984
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:08,160
Speaker 2: And you want to see the state of the Cowboys

985
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:12,759
Speaker 2: at all times, you know. Yeah, I guess is it

986
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:14,000
Speaker 2: in Dallas or Philly?

987
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:18,040
Speaker 5: I assume it's Philly. It's the NFL kickoff for the

988
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:19,800
Speaker 5: Super Bowl champ I assume it's in Philly.

989
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:23,440
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, Yeah, I mean I'm.

990
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:27,200
Speaker 5: Going to use you a theory of I'm just disappointed

991
00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:30,080
Speaker 5: with the whole Micah Parsons that like Dallas, like the

992
00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:32,440
Speaker 5: league is better if Dallas is good, and I know

993
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:35,200
Speaker 5: that they're polarizing no matter what. You know, I don't

994
00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:37,799
Speaker 5: like the Cowboys. They put them with the Steelers in

995
00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:41,000
Speaker 5: the in the Raiders, right, you know for me from

996
00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:44,160
Speaker 5: my childhood. But I don't think they're going to be

997
00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:47,400
Speaker 5: overly good. I think they'll be better because Dak Prescott

998
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:50,560
Speaker 5: will be healthy, but the defense certainly isn't going to

999
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:53,600
Speaker 5: be as good. You know, we had a division matchup

1000
00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:55,960
Speaker 5: Thursday night. We got a division matchup Friday night with

1001
00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:57,360
Speaker 5: Kansas City and the Chargers.

1002
00:45:57,560 --> 00:46:00,600
Speaker 2: That's in Brinilla, right, I don't even.

1003
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:04,160
Speaker 5: Know where it is. But like last year, I think

1004
00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:06,400
Speaker 5: to hit a home run with Kansas City and Baltimore.

1005
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:09,359
Speaker 5: That's a great matchup that you don't get to see

1006
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:12,799
Speaker 5: every every year or all the time. You know, these

1007
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:16,640
Speaker 5: games that they love, the division games, they love them.

1008
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:18,560
Speaker 2: Well, there's more of them so they get more to

1009
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:19,280
Speaker 2: choose from.

1010
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:22,799
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know. I'm just I'll be watching. It's

1011
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:25,960
Speaker 5: the first game of the year, you know, be into it.

1012
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:28,560
Speaker 5: But I'll be surprised. If I stay with it, I'll.

1013
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:31,920
Speaker 2: Be asleep by halftime, I'm sure. But yeah, I'll be

1014
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:36,040
Speaker 2: watching absolutely you know NFL football, Paul, I can't beat

1015
00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:36,600
Speaker 2: that product.

1016
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:39,040
Speaker 5: Now, I generally don't watch the Thursday night games, like

1017
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:42,480
Speaker 5: I know, you're a week to week too many, too

1018
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:44,000
Speaker 5: many of those odd odd time.

1019
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:49,279
Speaker 2: I've come to like the Amazon stream and you know

1020
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:50,080
Speaker 2: that whole present.

1021
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:51,880
Speaker 5: Well, that's the biggest reason why I don't watch the

1022
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:53,800
Speaker 5: Thursday night games, because I can't change the channel.

1023
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:56,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, right now, I hear that they've got to figure

1024
00:46:56,360 --> 00:47:00,960
Speaker 2: that out. All right, let's get to the phone again.

1025
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:05,280
Speaker 2: Mike has just left for practice. Evan's already out there.

1026
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:06,960
Speaker 5: Then Mike has gone to.

1027
00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:13,040
Speaker 2: Oh that's right, practice, so correct, they're both in the

1028
00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:15,080
Speaker 2: locker room. Then they'll go out to practice. Then they'll

1029
00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:17,840
Speaker 2: come back and people will be coming and going. So

1030
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:20,399
Speaker 2: we'll get to that. But in the meantime, let's let's

1031
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:24,000
Speaker 2: hear from you. Eight five five Pats five hundred is

1032
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:27,360
Speaker 2: the hot line. We'll start with Dante, who's in Delaware.

1033
00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:34,280
Speaker 13: Hey Dante, Hey, good afternoon, guys. Hey, I'm looking forward

1034
00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:37,120
Speaker 13: to Sunday, and I hope you all are as well

1035
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:43,040
Speaker 13: defense more specifically secondary would never worry in my mind

1036
00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:45,839
Speaker 13: going into this season. But now I'm having second off.

1037
00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:49,200
Speaker 13: What are your thoughts on the Peppers release? Do you

1038
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:53,239
Speaker 13: expect us to make another acquisition for our secondary? And

1039
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:55,920
Speaker 13: who do you see us using the not stop but

1040
00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:58,160
Speaker 13: slow down? Brought Boers to Sunday.

1041
00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:02,280
Speaker 2: Okay, so two questions. What we you know, we talked

1042
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:04,360
Speaker 2: extensively about Peppers yesterday.

1043
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:07,680
Speaker 5: I thought it was surprising. It's in a nutshell, I

1044
00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:10,920
Speaker 5: thought it was a surprising move. You can certainly understand

1045
00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:15,080
Speaker 5: Mike Vrabel trying to surround himself with as many of

1046
00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:16,879
Speaker 5: his guys quote unquote as he can.

1047
00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:18,960
Speaker 2: This is a guy who probably doesn't.

1048
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:21,080
Speaker 5: Figure to be part of the future at you know what,

1049
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:24,080
Speaker 5: year eight or nine. Now, at this point, I was

1050
00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:26,560
Speaker 5: still surprised. I thought there was he was a starting

1051
00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:30,120
Speaker 5: caliber player. They obviously thought differently. Maybe they're looking for

1052
00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:32,560
Speaker 5: a little bit more youth and speed and range at

1053
00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:34,560
Speaker 5: the back end of the safety spot. So that's what

1054
00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:35,640
Speaker 5: we thought about Peppers.

1055
00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:38,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, and we think that they tried to move both

1056
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:43,160
Speaker 2: Peppers and Doug Art that both were available. Yeah, they

1057
00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:45,920
Speaker 2: couldn't move either one of them. And they didn't want

1058
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:46,759
Speaker 2: to keep both of them.

1059
00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:50,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, in terms of the secondary, I think their starting

1060
00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:53,879
Speaker 5: corners in Gonzales and Davis are solid. I'm a little

1061
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:57,120
Speaker 5: bit more concerned about what's behind them with Marcus Jones

1062
00:48:57,160 --> 00:49:01,200
Speaker 5: and Alex Austin and I guess DJ James now, So

1063
00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:03,400
Speaker 5: I think that's a little bit of a thin spot.

1064
00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:06,040
Speaker 5: They've made safety a little bit of a thin spot.

1065
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:09,560
Speaker 5: I think with their decision with Peppers, I don't know

1066
00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:11,600
Speaker 5: what you're going to acquire at this stage that's going

1067
00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:16,120
Speaker 5: to necessarily add significantly. I mean maybe if like there's

1068
00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:18,520
Speaker 5: a veteran I think Stefan Gilmour is still available, but

1069
00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:20,719
Speaker 5: I just don't think that makes any sense based on

1070
00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:24,120
Speaker 5: the other moves that Vrabel's making. The guys they're acquiring

1071
00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:27,160
Speaker 5: now are young guys that are you know, they're trying

1072
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:30,440
Speaker 5: to see if they're worth developing and what they're going

1073
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:33,879
Speaker 5: to do on Sunday with Brock Bowers. It's another part

1074
00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:36,120
Speaker 5: of the newness that we just don't really know because

1075
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:40,440
Speaker 5: we've never seen Terrell Williams and this group of coaches

1076
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:43,480
Speaker 5: put together a game plan. I wouldn't be surprised to

1077
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:47,400
Speaker 5: see Carlton Davis heavily involved with Brock Bowers on Sunday

1078
00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:51,880
Speaker 5: with some linebacker and safety bracketing kind of stuff. You know,

1079
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:55,319
Speaker 5: maybe Christian Ellis is a pretty mobile linebacker. Splaine is

1080
00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:58,040
Speaker 5: a guy that moves around well, but you can't ask

1081
00:49:58,200 --> 00:49:59,960
Speaker 5: linebackers and safeties to cover Brock.

1082
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:03,520
Speaker 2: If the Raiders had a true number one, in the

1083
00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:06,759
Speaker 2: true sense of a receiver, that would that would create

1084
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:09,200
Speaker 2: a whole different set of problems. But I think because

1085
00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:12,400
Speaker 2: they don't, they don't have that one guy that you

1086
00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:15,600
Speaker 2: know is up the level of a Justin Jefferson, Jamar Chase.

1087
00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:18,520
Speaker 2: I think you can afford to put Carlton Davis on Bowers.

1088
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:21,319
Speaker 5: Well, I mean, it's pick your poison, and they have two

1089
00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:25,440
Speaker 5: guys that are very similar goods Myers and Bowers. I

1090
00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:29,360
Speaker 5: think that they probably feel Bowers is the more dangerous guy. Yeah,

1091
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:31,279
Speaker 5: and I think he'll get more attention.

1092
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:35,279
Speaker 2: As a result. Boston Cream's on the phone, so you

1093
00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:38,240
Speaker 2: heard me talking about him? What's up, Boston Cream?

1094
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Speaker 14: Yeah, Hey guys, Yeah, sorry, I missed most of the

1095
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:43,239
Speaker 14: conversation about after you mentioned that we're gonna go with

1096
00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:45,279
Speaker 14: my methods. So if you don't mind, I'll just talk

1097
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:45,960
Speaker 14: about it first.

1098
00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:48,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no, give us a preview of how that's

1099
00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:50,200
Speaker 2: gonna work for fans.

1100
00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:53,560
Speaker 14: Okay, so anyone who's kind of familiar with fantasy football

1101
00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:56,320
Speaker 14: knows the Sleeper app. I've just created a pick a

1102
00:50:56,440 --> 00:51:02,560
Speaker 14: pool on Sleeper. I'll disseminate the link amongst my social spread, Paul,

1103
00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:06,200
Speaker 14: everyone else. If you guys can possibly do the same,

1104
00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:09,560
Speaker 14: that would be easy. Fans could just click the link.

1105
00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:12,319
Speaker 14: They'll have to make a profile and download the app.

1106
00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:16,279
Speaker 14: That's about as difficult as a guess each week and

1107
00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:19,359
Speaker 14: go into the app, and you simply just pick which

1108
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:21,480
Speaker 14: team you think is going to win. I'm assuming we

1109
00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:23,640
Speaker 14: just want to do a straight pick up, not spread.

1110
00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:25,759
Speaker 2: Well, we want to do both. That's how we do it.

1111
00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:28,080
Speaker 5: Well, we're doing it. But the fans can do whatever.

1112
00:51:28,239 --> 00:51:29,680
Speaker 2: Oh, they can do whatever it wants. But it'd be

1113
00:51:29,719 --> 00:51:31,799
Speaker 2: good to see how they do against the spread too.

1114
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:34,040
Speaker 7: Okay, I don't know.

1115
00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:34,759
Speaker 5: That might be hard.

1116
00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:38,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, that's right. So if you could choose, Paul,

1117
00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:43,719
Speaker 2: what should you do? Spreader straight up? Straight up?

1118
00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:47,520
Speaker 5: Okay for the fans, I all right, I just think

1119
00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:48,359
Speaker 5: it's easier for it.

1120
00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:50,360
Speaker 2: It is easier for him. It's easier for everybody.

1121
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:53,800
Speaker 5: But I think from a design standpoint.

1122
00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:55,279
Speaker 2: Well that's true because their spread may not be the

1123
00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:58,239
Speaker 2: same as ours. Yeah, so do it straight up? Good,

1124
00:51:58,239 --> 00:52:00,439
Speaker 2: point yep, good.

1125
00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:02,160
Speaker 14: And then on the app it's going to be really

1126
00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:06,080
Speaker 14: nice for fans. You can actually see where people rank

1127
00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:09,960
Speaker 14: each week, and there's an overall like leaderboard, this, that

1128
00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:13,879
Speaker 14: and the other. It's very very simple. So I'm glad

1129
00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:16,040
Speaker 14: you guys chose my method, but if you can help

1130
00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:18,000
Speaker 14: me spread the word, that would be great.

1131
00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:20,960
Speaker 2: Okay, So what we'll do is as soon as you

1132
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:25,000
Speaker 2: give the link to Matt Morrell, either in this show

1133
00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:27,960
Speaker 2: or tomorrow show at the top of the show, well

1134
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:31,040
Speaker 2: we'll share the link so that you know, people can

1135
00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:34,840
Speaker 2: download it and have it ready. You know, we have

1136
00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:36,560
Speaker 2: to have a cutoff, right, Yeah, I'm sure the app

1137
00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:39,440
Speaker 2: itself has its own cutoff for doing the picks.

1138
00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:43,560
Speaker 14: Yes, it does, fret. The link is attached to the email.

1139
00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:46,960
Speaker 2: All right, Well that's a Matt Morrel thing. He has

1140
00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:47,719
Speaker 2: to take care of that.

1141
00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:50,840
Speaker 5: Maybe he's giving a thumbs up else, got it?

1142
00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:54,719
Speaker 2: Okay? Good, all right, Well thanks, thanks Boston Kream. Appreciate that.

1143
00:52:55,640 --> 00:52:57,719
Speaker 14: No worries. I'm usually a menace but today I'll be

1144
00:52:57,760 --> 00:52:58,160
Speaker 14: a helper.

1145
00:52:58,560 --> 00:53:02,839
Speaker 2: All right, thanks, that's a lot all right, all right,

1146
00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:04,239
Speaker 2: so we have a solution there.

1147
00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:07,279
Speaker 5: Fans can can you know they can play along with

1148
00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:08,359
Speaker 5: us on Thursdays?

1149
00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:08,640
Speaker 3: Right?

1150
00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:09,000
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1151
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:09,120
Speaker 7: Can?

1152
00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:11,919
Speaker 5: They can have their their contests at the same time

1153
00:53:12,520 --> 00:53:14,719
Speaker 5: and they'll see that It's not as easy as you think.

1154
00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:20,879
Speaker 2: Yep. Another logistical question. This isn't about picks, Kristen, Chris

1155
00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:24,239
Speaker 2: and Santa Fe says, just found out the closest fan

1156
00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:27,000
Speaker 2: club to me is not really active anymore. How do

1157
00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:28,200
Speaker 2: I go about starting a.

1158
00:53:28,120 --> 00:53:29,560
Speaker 5: New one all of a sudden, that's the thing?

1159
00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:34,000
Speaker 2: Now? Yeah, well I love it, so Chris, here's how

1160
00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:35,920
Speaker 2: you start your club is up to you. If you

1161
00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:39,719
Speaker 2: already have a group of fans, then you know that's great.

1162
00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:41,560
Speaker 2: You have the beginnings of a fan club. But the

1163
00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:44,759
Speaker 2: way it works on the fan club Registerryan Patriots dot

1164
00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:48,239
Speaker 2: Com is you go there, you have to have a

1165
00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:52,400
Speaker 2: minimum of ten members, and you share those the names

1166
00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:55,840
Speaker 2: and emails of those members with us in an Excel

1167
00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:59,319
Speaker 2: spreadsheet that you know, just email it and all the

1168
00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:03,120
Speaker 2: instructions are in the registry. Once we verify that these

1169
00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:05,080
Speaker 2: are real people and you didn't just make them up.

1170
00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:09,520
Speaker 2: Then we'll register you, you know, and you have control

1171
00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:12,080
Speaker 2: of the page from that point on. Once you create

1172
00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:15,320
Speaker 2: an account, you can put up your logo, you can list,

1173
00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:17,920
Speaker 2: you know, what bar that you meet at to watch

1174
00:54:17,960 --> 00:54:21,080
Speaker 2: the game. You can list, you know, events that you're having.

1175
00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:23,839
Speaker 2: A lot of our fan clubs have charitable events during

1176
00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:27,680
Speaker 2: the season and they list you know when that's happening.

1177
00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:31,160
Speaker 2: So you, as president of the club, you would register

1178
00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:34,760
Speaker 2: yourself as the administrator. You have access, you have control

1179
00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:37,520
Speaker 2: of the page. The only thing you can't change are

1180
00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:40,160
Speaker 2: the names of the members. Those you have to request

1181
00:54:40,239 --> 00:54:42,320
Speaker 2: us to change because we you know, we have to.

1182
00:54:42,760 --> 00:54:45,560
Speaker 2: So what you do is, okay, I've added five members

1183
00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:48,600
Speaker 2: three months from now to send us the new spreadsheet

1184
00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:53,960
Speaker 2: and we'll verify it and upload that so that you know, uh,

1185
00:54:54,280 --> 00:54:57,279
Speaker 2: you know, your your membership stays current. And then once

1186
00:54:57,320 --> 00:54:59,840
Speaker 2: we do that, all your members will receive the newsletter

1187
00:54:59,840 --> 00:55:03,000
Speaker 2: that goes out that we sent to all fan club members,

1188
00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:06,319
Speaker 2: and you also get discounts and things like that. So

1189
00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:09,440
Speaker 2: that's how you do it. You just have to get

1190
00:55:09,480 --> 00:55:11,680
Speaker 2: ten a minimum of ten members, send it to us,

1191
00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:15,879
Speaker 2: create your account on the fan club registry, and you're

1192
00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:16,800
Speaker 2: off to the races.

1193
00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:19,880
Speaker 5: So what happens if you only have like eight eight members?

1194
00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:22,200
Speaker 5: Is that like a like a gang?

1195
00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:26,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, not a club. Not a club. Yeah, it's gathering

1196
00:55:26,360 --> 00:55:29,160
Speaker 2: a mini club. So you have to get two more members.

1197
00:55:29,239 --> 00:55:31,799
Speaker 5: Yeah okay, and you can't just you just threaten people.

1198
00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:33,560
Speaker 5: So you will join this club.

1199
00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:36,719
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, I'm not saying you have to, but if

1200
00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:38,320
Speaker 2: you don't, you know, things could happen.

1201
00:55:38,560 --> 00:55:40,840
Speaker 5: Rights, it's in your best interests.

1202
00:55:40,520 --> 00:55:44,080
Speaker 2: Right, you wouldn't a fire go off in your your store,

1203
00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:44,319
Speaker 2: you know.

1204
00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:47,200
Speaker 5: Wow, you just took it to a dark place.

1205
00:55:47,560 --> 00:55:52,560
Speaker 2: Sure, all right, so good good stuff. I like it.

1206
00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:58,160
Speaker 2: We're taking care of some business here, speed rights in Samanta. Question,

1207
00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:01,040
Speaker 2: at what point do you can clue a player is

1208
00:56:01,080 --> 00:56:04,560
Speaker 2: officially injury prone? He puts in quotes, good one. Are

1209
00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:06,879
Speaker 2: we there yet with Gonzo has That's a good one.

1210
00:56:06,920 --> 00:56:09,120
Speaker 2: More of a finesse corner in college. So I wonder

1211
00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:12,520
Speaker 2: if we're seeing the consequences of physicality in the NFL

1212
00:56:12,600 --> 00:56:13,520
Speaker 2: for that kind of player.

1213
00:56:13,680 --> 00:56:17,160
Speaker 5: So I would say that about this, A soft tissue

1214
00:56:17,200 --> 00:56:19,640
Speaker 5: injury might be a little bit different. But I think

1215
00:56:19,680 --> 00:56:24,160
Speaker 5: your larger point I think is worth talking about. I

1216
00:56:24,200 --> 00:56:27,000
Speaker 5: don't know, well, when when do you have. Does a

1217
00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:29,839
Speaker 5: guy go from Ah, it's too bad if you could

1218
00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:32,840
Speaker 5: just stay healthy to be on now he's injury prone, right,

1219
00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:35,839
Speaker 5: you know, I don't know, yep, And you know it's

1220
00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:37,040
Speaker 5: it's an unfortunate thing.

1221
00:56:37,080 --> 00:56:39,279
Speaker 2: A lot of people bristle at that term because they

1222
00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:40,479
Speaker 2: just think it's bad luck.

1223
00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:42,960
Speaker 5: Well, they also think you're kind of calling the guy soft, right,

1224
00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:45,800
Speaker 5: And I'm not necessarily saying every guy that suffers a

1225
00:56:45,840 --> 00:56:48,560
Speaker 5: lot of injuries is soft. Some are, right, but I'm

1226
00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:51,400
Speaker 5: not necessarily saying all guys that are injury prone. You know,

1227
00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:53,960
Speaker 5: Rob Grogkowski was injury prone. Yeah, but I don't think

1228
00:56:53,960 --> 00:56:56,399
Speaker 5: anybody would call him a soft player, right, right, right?

1229
00:56:56,520 --> 00:56:58,760
Speaker 2: He was just part of the reason he got injured

1230
00:56:58,760 --> 00:57:01,919
Speaker 2: a lot is because he wasn't he didn't shy away

1231
00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:06,720
Speaker 2: from contact. Travis writes in although it came at my expense,

1232
00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:09,319
Speaker 2: I'd like to commend Pat in Agawam for being less

1233
00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:13,680
Speaker 2: boring yesterday than he normally is. However, as usual as

1234
00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:17,480
Speaker 2: contribution to the show fell flat. Although I routinely take

1235
00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:21,960
Speaker 2: swipes at Pat's lack of intrigue and question why he's

1236
00:57:21,960 --> 00:57:25,640
Speaker 2: a featured component of your show, I've never used a

1237
00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:29,120
Speaker 2: nasty tone, nor stooped to name calling like he did yesterday.

1238
00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:32,520
Speaker 2: Most would agree that my email about Dion Lewis was

1239
00:57:32,560 --> 00:57:36,560
Speaker 2: more thought provoking than Pat's tedious Super Bowl prediction that

1240
00:57:36,640 --> 00:57:39,600
Speaker 2: no one cares about during what he called Vikings coach

1241
00:57:39,680 --> 00:57:44,520
Speaker 2: McConnell instead of O'Connell. Following up, I think averaging fifteen

1242
00:57:44,600 --> 00:57:47,240
Speaker 2: touches per game is a lot harder to achieve than

1243
00:57:47,240 --> 00:57:50,800
Speaker 2: you're making it out to be. More Travis, more Christian,

1244
00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:54,240
Speaker 2: more eldrit less pat. So we were talking about how

1245
00:57:54,240 --> 00:57:56,480
Speaker 2: many touches Henderson might have.

1246
00:57:56,680 --> 00:58:01,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, and I listen, game scripts can vary, you know,

1247
00:58:01,520 --> 00:58:05,320
Speaker 5: we know that sometimes the game's gonna declare in a

1248
00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:07,400
Speaker 5: different way and you're not going to be able to

1249
00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:10,040
Speaker 5: do everything that you want to do. This is not

1250
00:58:10,120 --> 00:58:12,920
Speaker 5: a steadfast you have to get them fifteen touches every game.

1251
00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:16,320
Speaker 5: But I'd be surprised if the Patriots don't look at

1252
00:58:16,320 --> 00:58:20,880
Speaker 5: this and Josh McDaniels, you know, and we want to

1253
00:58:20,920 --> 00:58:25,080
Speaker 5: get Henderson involved every game if we can somewhere between

1254
00:58:25,080 --> 00:58:27,680
Speaker 5: ten and fifteen touches. We don't want him to run down.

1255
00:58:27,720 --> 00:58:31,480
Speaker 5: We don't want to give him fifteen seventeen carries between

1256
00:58:31,520 --> 00:58:34,360
Speaker 5: the tackles every game. But you know, and touches also,

1257
00:58:34,640 --> 00:58:38,280
Speaker 5: you know that can be you know, a kickoff return, yep,

1258
00:58:39,200 --> 00:58:42,720
Speaker 5: you know, And I think that what you actually you

1259
00:58:43,600 --> 00:58:45,840
Speaker 5: how you quantify it too. It's not even just touches.

1260
00:58:45,880 --> 00:58:47,000
Speaker 5: Sometimes it's targets.

1261
00:58:47,720 --> 00:58:47,880
Speaker 2: You know.

1262
00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:50,440
Speaker 5: You might get them five or six carries, and you

1263
00:58:50,520 --> 00:58:52,880
Speaker 5: might throw the ball in his direction five or six times,

1264
00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:54,240
Speaker 5: and all of a sudden, that's how you get the

1265
00:58:54,280 --> 00:58:59,120
Speaker 5: twelve you know, combined. But I get what he's saying.

1266
00:58:59,160 --> 00:59:02,919
Speaker 5: You can't necessarily control that every week. Sometimes the game

1267
00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:04,680
Speaker 5: gets out of hand and you're not able to do

1268
00:59:04,720 --> 00:59:05,400
Speaker 5: what you want to do.

1269
00:59:05,680 --> 00:59:05,919
Speaker 2: Yep.

1270
00:59:06,240 --> 00:59:08,440
Speaker 5: You know, if you fall behind, maybe you're throwing more

1271
00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:11,240
Speaker 5: passes to Henderson, he's getting all the touches. Maybe you

1272
00:59:11,280 --> 00:59:12,560
Speaker 5: get a big lead and you want to run the

1273
00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:14,520
Speaker 5: ball the whole second half, and Henderson's really not as

1274
00:59:14,520 --> 00:59:15,200
Speaker 5: big a part of.

1275
00:59:15,120 --> 00:59:21,040
Speaker 2: That, right, right, right, yep. I have to do another

1276
00:59:21,120 --> 00:59:25,160
Speaker 2: read here. We did this before, but they wanted me

1277
00:59:25,240 --> 00:59:28,600
Speaker 2: to remind people that traditions matter for football fans, turning

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1285
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Speaker 2: All right, So there you go, getting back to the

1286
01:00:00,760 --> 01:00:03,000
Speaker 2: phones here. Actually, you know what, it's a good time

1287
01:00:03,040 --> 01:00:03,760
Speaker 2: for a break.

1288
01:00:03,480 --> 01:00:03,800
Speaker 3: I think.

1289
01:00:03,960 --> 01:00:07,360
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, so we'll do that. More calls and emails.

1290
01:00:07,400 --> 01:00:10,600
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1291
01:00:10,960 --> 01:00:13,680
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Speaker 2: As we get going here, how is great?

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Speaker 5: Continue to progress in your offense?

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Speaker 16: So just you know, where do you see him at

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Speaker 16: at this point?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 17: I think we make progress every day.

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Speaker 4: You know, he's done a lot of good things.

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Speaker 17: And then, to me, the greatest part about training camp

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Speaker 17: is you have an opportunity to see different things, experience

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Speaker 17: things you've never experienced, either with the group that you're

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Speaker 17: out there with or within our own system against different defenses.

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Speaker 4: Our defense Washington, Minnesota this.

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Speaker 17: Week, and all of those to me are super valuable

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Speaker 17: for us in terms of his growth in the system

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Speaker 17: and our offenses growth together. So just to encourage by

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Speaker 17: what we're doing every day. I really like the trajectory

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Speaker 17: that we're on.

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Speaker 4: What's the learning to it good like for him?

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Speaker 3: You know, it's obviously work in progress.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, you need to go about it.

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Speaker 17: Yeah, I mean he he works extremely hard every day

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Speaker 17: to be prepared for each practice. And he's a quick learner,

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Speaker 17: that's for sure. And the biggest thing we've tried to

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Speaker 17: talk about since we got to get on the grass

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Speaker 17: in the spring is to try to limit the number

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Speaker 17: of repeat airrors.

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Speaker 4: You know, if we if we make an air that's

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Speaker 4: that's not a bad.

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Speaker 17: Thing, that's a good thing as long as we learn

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Speaker 17: from it and don't repeat it again. So he's pretty

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Speaker 17: quick study in that regard. He's got a great memory.

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Speaker 17: You know, sometimes when football things happen one day and

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Speaker 17: they might not happen again for two three weeks, but

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Speaker 17: you know, you still got to try to process that

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Speaker 17: in the moment and do it when it's when it counts.

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Speaker 17: So just again excited about him the whole group in

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Speaker 17: terms of their willingness to learn from their mistakes and

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Speaker 17: then come out and get better the next day.

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Speaker 5: To what these guys can.

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Speaker 9: You mapped it out and trapped it out, and now

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Speaker 9: you've seen whether or not courts you wanting process.

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Speaker 17: Yeah, I think so, And I think that will probably

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Speaker 17: continue to go on through training camp and then usually

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Speaker 17: that's gonna probably. Uh, the evolution of what you do

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Speaker 17: with these guys will continue during the season, especially the

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Speaker 17: first year together. And so I think we've uh, you know,

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Speaker 17: like today we're trying some new things with different people,

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Speaker 17: you know, and now that we have a better understanding

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Speaker 17: of each guy's skill set, how much they can process,

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Speaker 17: who can play multiple positions, the types of things that

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Speaker 17: they do well on first and second down maybe different

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Speaker 17: than what they do well on third down in the

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Speaker 17: red zone, same thing. So we're just we're really trying

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Speaker 17: to hone in on what they do well and what

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Speaker 17: they do best, and then continue to try to grow

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Speaker 17: and build from there.

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Speaker 8: Josh quarterback Drake obviously have a lot of technician ability

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Speaker 8: out without position to sort.

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Speaker 14: Of proven some with that fine line WHI playing.

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Speaker 12: The hero by damn just sort of quite another building.

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Speaker 3: Is that a tough to sort of straddle?

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Speaker 17: Hopefully it won't be a tough line to straddle. I

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Speaker 17: think he's still learning, you know, all of those things.

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Speaker 17: You know, he's like, you know, he's such a gifted athlete,

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Speaker 17: and I think you know a lot of guys that

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Speaker 17: play this position that have ability to throw it but

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Speaker 17: also to move and make place with their legs and

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Speaker 17: extend plays. Uh, they have to find that line themselves. Honestly,

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Speaker 17: we can tell them all we want, you know, don't

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Speaker 17: make a bad play, you know what I mean. And

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Speaker 17: I'm gonna be the first one in the end zone

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Speaker 17: when he extends a play. And you know, we all

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Speaker 17: saw the one to pop, you know, early in training camp,

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Speaker 17: and you know, if I was telling him to throw

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Speaker 17: that away, I'd have been pissed at myself, you know

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Speaker 17: what I mean. So I think you know he's I

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Speaker 17: would say this, He's definitely more aware as we go

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Speaker 17: into this training camp and the next practice and all that.

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Speaker 17: You saw him slide a couple of times the other night,

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Speaker 17: which was great. So again there's a there's a fine

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Speaker 17: line between holding onto the ball too long in certain

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Speaker 17: situations and then doing the right thing to help the team.

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Speaker 17: And those of those guys that were blessed with that ability,

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Speaker 17: they're the ones that have to go out there and

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Speaker 17: learn how to do that and balance it the.

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Speaker 16: Way he was able to create this Like last year,

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Speaker 16: dropped was a real threat for that offense. Do you

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Speaker 16: have like a number in mind for you or Mike

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Speaker 16: or both that like, okay, we don't want to see

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Speaker 16: this in terms of carries for him, because then we

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Speaker 16: might be asking for trouble.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think, I mean, we don't have that.

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Speaker 17: We haven't talked about that, but I think you know,

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Speaker 17: he had four hundred and some yards rushing last year

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Speaker 17: on no designed runs, you know. So I think the

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Speaker 17: reality is is, you know, those loose plays are hard

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Speaker 17: to predict when they're going to come up. You know,

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Speaker 17: like the other night, we didn't call a pass play

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Speaker 17: for him to scramble for a first down, but he

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Speaker 17: did and it was a good play. So I think

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Speaker 17: he just has to understand when there's nothing there and

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Speaker 17: he has an opening, you know, what to do with

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Speaker 17: the ball. I think he's really improven in that area

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Speaker 17: and understanding his value to the team is when he's healthy.

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Speaker 4: And so I think that's what we're all talking about.

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Speaker 17: So h players that have the ability to do both, Uh,

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Speaker 17: they have to be smart about it because when coach

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Speaker 17: ray Ba always says, you know, we're going to protect

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Speaker 17: the team, you know what I mean? And whether that

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Speaker 17: you play running back and you protect the ball, or

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Speaker 17: you make a great decision off the field, or you're

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Speaker 17: the quarterback and you scramble and you decide to slide.

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Speaker 17: You know, all of those things are protecting the team,

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Speaker 17: and so I think Drake is definitively looking to try

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Speaker 17: to do that.

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Speaker 4: You know, every time he has the ball in his hands, what.

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Speaker 7: Are your thoughts on it and running it context their mind?

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Speaker 4: Because yeah, I've never done it, doesn't mean that I

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Speaker 4: wouldn't do it.

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Speaker 17: I think it depends on if you feel like you

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Speaker 17: need that to gain additional inertia and move the ball forward. Obviously,

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Speaker 17: the Eagles are exceptional at it and have been for

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Speaker 17: a few years now. I don't dislike to play again.

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Speaker 17: I think each team is probably gonna make their own decision.

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Speaker 17: One thing I think it is is it's not an

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Speaker 17: easy play to practice in full pads and get good

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Speaker 17: at because we're obviously not going to create a bunch

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Speaker 17: of scrums on the practice field with our own defense,

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Speaker 17: you know, and risk injuries and those kind of things.

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Speaker 17: So you're gonna have to find creative ways to do

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Speaker 17: that if you're gonna do it. And I'm sure defending

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Speaker 17: it is much the same conversation. You know, how do

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Speaker 17: we defend this if we're not allowed to dive at

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Speaker 17: the center's legs and you know what I mean, all

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Speaker 17: the things that defenses try to do to stop it.

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Speaker 17: So you know, we'll look at everything that may help

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Speaker 17: our team win, and you know, certainly Rapes will make

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Speaker 17: the final decision on things like that.

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Speaker 10: Like you've been asked this before, but when it comes

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Speaker 10: to the risk reward nature of Drake's game, specifically when

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Speaker 10: it comes to extending plays, is there anything you found

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Speaker 10: yourself having to do differently as a coach, knowing you've

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Speaker 10: coached a lot of quarterbacks, but perhaps not one with

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Speaker 10: this particular skill.

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Speaker 17: Not really, because I think you as a coach, you

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Speaker 17: have to you have to coach each play as if

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Speaker 17: they're not going to run past the quarterback and give

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Speaker 17: him a lane to take off and run with the ball.

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Speaker 17: I think that's kind of a happening, if you know

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Speaker 17: what I mean. It's you know, you you happen to

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Speaker 17: It's like a hole in one in golf, you know

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Speaker 17: what I mean. Like none of us are hitting it

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Speaker 17: to go in the hole, but sometimes I haven't never

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Speaker 17: done it, but every once in a while to go

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Speaker 17: in and you'll go, wow, that was great, you know

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Speaker 17: what I mean. So I think to me, when he scrambles,

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Speaker 17: hopefully it's under the right circumstances. I thought you saw

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Speaker 17: him the other night and a few of those things

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Speaker 17: hang in the pocket and do the right thing, you know.

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Speaker 17: So we have to coach as if the defense is

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Speaker 17: going to play good defense, and we're going to need

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Speaker 17: to maintain our posture as a pastor passer and and

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Speaker 17: try to find the open receivers, which I think he's

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Speaker 17: done a great job of. And again in training camp,

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Speaker 17: it's hard to simulate those things because you know, we

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Speaker 17: don't run with the ball a whole lot, you know,

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Speaker 17: and scramble and all the rest of it.

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Speaker 4: So we'll see. It'll be a work in progress during

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Speaker 4: the season.

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Speaker 3: Josh, you're curious.

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Speaker 18: Sure, I know he's touched up with some more of

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Speaker 18: us special teams.

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Speaker 4: To play, but just what kind of like what did

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Speaker 4: you we count that as an offensive?

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Speaker 3: What did you see on that play? And just what

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Speaker 3: kind of like riot weapon?

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Speaker 17: Yeah, I mean it's uh. I think everybody sees Trevion

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Speaker 17: the same way. You know, he's first of all, he's

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Speaker 17: a tremendous kid, awesome individual, really hard worker, smart kid,

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Speaker 17: can process a lot of information, which allows you as

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Speaker 17: a coach to try to use him in the ways

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Speaker 17: that he should be used. Explosive, you know, I think

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Speaker 17: we all saw that the other night, and tough physical.

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Speaker 17: So I have many negatives to say about Trey, you know,

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Speaker 17: but excited to coach him.

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Speaker 3: He he.

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Speaker 17: We've had some really good players with skill sets that

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Speaker 17: are somewhat like his, Maybe nobody quite as fast as

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Speaker 17: you know, Ververeen was probably the fast. Him and Danny

1521
01:10:49,640 --> 01:10:52,599
Speaker 17: Woodhead were fast, but Travion's fast fast.

1522
01:10:52,680 --> 01:10:57,040
Speaker 4: So excited to be with him at all, Like.

1523
01:10:57,640 --> 01:11:00,400
Speaker 17: Yeah, we've seen he's seen plenty and and now he's

1524
01:11:00,640 --> 01:11:02,920
Speaker 17: putting it on tape too. So we use a lot

1525
01:11:02,960 --> 01:11:04,880
Speaker 17: of practice film to review what we what we can

1526
01:11:04,960 --> 01:11:07,800
Speaker 17: do better, and you know, obviously we have some things

1527
01:11:07,880 --> 01:11:10,040
Speaker 17: we can use from the past, but certainly trying to

1528
01:11:10,040 --> 01:11:12,120
Speaker 17: get these guys to do with their own selves, like

1529
01:11:12,240 --> 01:11:12,840
Speaker 17: rule changes the.

1530
01:11:12,840 --> 01:11:14,639
Speaker 16: Cup blocks and made screens a little bit more difficult

1531
01:11:14,640 --> 01:11:16,599
Speaker 16: to run the beaty, what's the key to being able

1532
01:11:16,640 --> 01:11:17,120
Speaker 16: to practice?

1533
01:11:17,160 --> 01:11:18,400
Speaker 3: And next screed goes to a highway.

1534
01:11:18,840 --> 01:11:20,559
Speaker 4: I think you needed practice them at full speed.

1535
01:11:21,080 --> 01:11:23,880
Speaker 17: So whether it's in a joint practice or some type

1536
01:11:23,920 --> 01:11:27,040
Speaker 17: of a scrimmage situation, I think those are always good.

1537
01:11:27,120 --> 01:11:28,680
Speaker 17: And then you know, we called a few in the

1538
01:11:28,720 --> 01:11:31,200
Speaker 17: game the other night just to it's hard to it's

1539
01:11:31,240 --> 01:11:34,439
Speaker 17: hard to simulate that in shells without a full speed

1540
01:11:34,560 --> 01:11:36,080
Speaker 17: rush and all the rest of it. When the when

1541
01:11:36,120 --> 01:11:38,439
Speaker 17: the rushers have to pull off the quarterback, you know,

1542
01:11:38,800 --> 01:11:42,240
Speaker 17: it's not the same. So I think, you know, as

1543
01:11:42,320 --> 01:11:44,200
Speaker 17: many of those as we can practice and work on,

1544
01:11:44,320 --> 01:11:47,240
Speaker 17: I think that's the best situations. Hopefully we can run

1545
01:11:47,280 --> 01:11:49,479
Speaker 17: a few here this week against Minnesota, see how they go,

1546
01:11:50,400 --> 01:11:52,000
Speaker 17: but coaching off of them, and then when we get

1547
01:11:52,000 --> 01:11:54,160
Speaker 17: to the regular season, obviously we'll have an opportunity to

1548
01:11:54,720 --> 01:11:57,160
Speaker 17: do it against real competition each week and hopefully we

1549
01:11:57,280 --> 01:11:58,760
Speaker 17: know what we're trying to get out of the play.

1550
01:11:59,439 --> 01:12:01,200
Speaker 17: The lack of cutting and all that, I mean, it

1551
01:12:01,280 --> 01:12:03,200
Speaker 17: kind of goes both ways. You know, they're not allowed

1552
01:12:03,200 --> 01:12:05,360
Speaker 17: to cut us on tosses and all that. We're not

1553
01:12:05,400 --> 01:12:08,160
Speaker 17: allowed to cut them on screen, So you know, it

1554
01:12:08,240 --> 01:12:09,760
Speaker 17: even out. It evens out at the end.

1555
01:12:10,439 --> 01:12:13,840
Speaker 5: Two rookies on the left side. I think our good

1556
01:12:13,880 --> 01:12:15,640
Speaker 5: friend Mike Release had a stat hasn't been done in

1557
01:12:15,720 --> 01:12:16,559
Speaker 5: twenty five years to.

1558
01:12:16,560 --> 01:12:17,240
Speaker 7: Start the season.

1559
01:12:17,720 --> 01:12:20,880
Speaker 8: What is giving you the confidence that those two guys

1560
01:12:21,040 --> 01:12:23,160
Speaker 8: can handle what it's about to come their way now.

1561
01:12:23,880 --> 01:12:26,200
Speaker 4: I think you know, the way they work every day

1562
01:12:26,920 --> 01:12:27,479
Speaker 4: certainly is.

1563
01:12:29,080 --> 01:12:31,720
Speaker 17: That's where it's where it starts, you know, and their performance,

1564
01:12:31,800 --> 01:12:32,920
Speaker 17: you know, they've earned that right.

1565
01:12:33,400 --> 01:12:36,559
Speaker 4: This isn't something that somebody just you know, said well,

1566
01:12:36,600 --> 01:12:37,120
Speaker 4: it's going.

1567
01:12:37,040 --> 01:12:39,600
Speaker 17: To do that without watching them in practice and evaluating

1568
01:12:39,680 --> 01:12:43,040
Speaker 17: what's best for the team. So, you know, I think

1569
01:12:43,479 --> 01:12:48,240
Speaker 17: certainly Mike has the that makes those decisions, and we're

1570
01:12:48,280 --> 01:12:50,280
Speaker 17: all here to try to support the guys that are

1571
01:12:50,320 --> 01:12:52,960
Speaker 17: in there and try to improve their their skill set

1572
01:12:53,000 --> 01:12:53,360
Speaker 17: each day.

1573
01:12:53,600 --> 01:12:55,520
Speaker 4: But I think they've performed admirably.

1574
01:12:56,000 --> 01:12:57,680
Speaker 17: There's going to be some things they're going to learn

1575
01:12:57,840 --> 01:13:01,080
Speaker 17: throughout the course of every game, every practice, and our

1576
01:13:01,200 --> 01:13:02,320
Speaker 17: job is to help them improve.

1577
01:13:02,520 --> 01:13:04,400
Speaker 4: And so, uh that's what we're gonna do.

1578
01:13:04,760 --> 01:13:07,200
Speaker 17: Uh We're not gonna get frustrated with a mistake here

1579
01:13:07,280 --> 01:13:09,519
Speaker 17: or there, and we're going to make sure that we

1580
01:13:09,600 --> 01:13:11,439
Speaker 17: try to do everything we can to help them get better.

1581
01:13:11,640 --> 01:13:14,200
Speaker 17: And uh, so far, those guys have made progress steadily

1582
01:13:14,280 --> 01:13:15,400
Speaker 17: throughout the course of their time here.

1583
01:13:15,520 --> 01:13:18,280
Speaker 10: Josh Square Bradbury shared yesterday that you guys are gonna

1584
01:13:18,280 --> 01:13:20,000
Speaker 10: game playing a little bit for Flow because he's seeing

1585
01:13:20,040 --> 01:13:21,679
Speaker 10: other teams come in against flow.

1586
01:13:21,720 --> 01:13:23,360
Speaker 4: It's just his work was disaster.

1587
01:13:24,600 --> 01:13:27,200
Speaker 10: Just what specifically with the way Brian runs his defense

1588
01:13:27,439 --> 01:13:29,000
Speaker 10: his way to most benefit.

1589
01:13:29,040 --> 01:13:31,719
Speaker 4: You guys this week, I feel like you just jinxed

1590
01:13:31,760 --> 01:13:32,160
Speaker 4: me and here.

1591
01:13:34,439 --> 01:13:36,160
Speaker 17: Yeah, I mean we're gonna see a lot of different things,

1592
01:13:36,360 --> 01:13:38,600
Speaker 17: you know. So we've we've I think we've seen a

1593
01:13:38,640 --> 01:13:41,360
Speaker 17: lot from our defense here, which has been great work

1594
01:13:41,400 --> 01:13:44,800
Speaker 17: for us. But I also you know, this is going

1595
01:13:44,880 --> 01:13:47,840
Speaker 17: to be a new They'll align in different spots. Uh,

1596
01:13:47,960 --> 01:13:50,240
Speaker 17: they'll pressure us in different ways that that maybe our

1597
01:13:50,320 --> 01:13:53,760
Speaker 17: defense hasn't yet, And it's just it's just great to

1598
01:13:53,840 --> 01:13:56,240
Speaker 17: go up there and get tested. What happens in these

1599
01:13:56,280 --> 01:13:58,560
Speaker 17: practices is your rule. You find out how well you

1600
01:13:58,640 --> 01:14:01,720
Speaker 17: know your rules, because you can't anticipate everything. We're not

1601
01:14:01,800 --> 01:14:04,080
Speaker 17: going to have, you know, three days of meetings and

1602
01:14:04,560 --> 01:14:07,800
Speaker 17: three practices Wednesday, Thursday, Friday to get ready to play them.

1603
01:14:08,200 --> 01:14:10,760
Speaker 17: So we're gonna have hopefully a heck of a work

1604
01:14:10,840 --> 01:14:13,360
Speaker 17: day today and then get ready to meet on them

1605
01:14:13,360 --> 01:14:15,439
Speaker 17: a little bit later today and tomorrow, and then go

1606
01:14:15,600 --> 01:14:18,080
Speaker 17: up there and let it rip on Wednesday. And I'm

1607
01:14:18,120 --> 01:14:20,280
Speaker 17: sure we're gonna learn a lot. There's gonna be some mistakes.

1608
01:14:20,520 --> 01:14:23,000
Speaker 17: They're almost always is both ways when you have a

1609
01:14:23,080 --> 01:14:26,519
Speaker 17: joint practice. And hopefully it's similar to what we just

1610
01:14:26,640 --> 01:14:27,880
Speaker 17: experienced with Washington, which is.

1611
01:14:27,880 --> 01:14:29,560
Speaker 4: A great, great day of work. Hopefully a couple of

1612
01:14:29,600 --> 01:14:37,000
Speaker 4: days up in Minnesota. Josh, thank you, yep, thanks and

1613
01:14:37,200 --> 01:14:39,040
Speaker 4: now great moments in.

1614
01:14:41,320 --> 01:14:44,880
Speaker 2: History. Eric and Paul show a feeling for the league.

1615
01:14:45,840 --> 01:14:48,280
Speaker 2: Jacksonville wins this game. They do, in fact, get that

1616
01:14:48,800 --> 01:14:49,880
Speaker 2: I took the Houston points.

1617
01:14:49,960 --> 01:14:52,400
Speaker 5: What about the cover? I took the three and a

1618
01:14:52,439 --> 01:14:55,840
Speaker 5: half Jacksonville by three and a half. Yeah, you took Jacksonville,

1619
01:14:55,880 --> 01:14:57,880
Speaker 5: so you want the point, you lay in the points?

1620
01:14:58,920 --> 01:15:01,720
Speaker 2: You beleeve? This gonna They're gonna win by more. He's

1621
01:15:02,600 --> 01:15:04,720
Speaker 2: winnings on both sides.

1622
01:15:04,479 --> 01:15:06,000
Speaker 5: Ladies and gentlemen, He's winning.

1623
01:15:06,840 --> 01:15:08,680
Speaker 2: They're gonna win now. You know. Want to know why

1624
01:15:08,680 --> 01:15:09,320
Speaker 2: I have that face?

1625
01:15:09,600 --> 01:15:12,000
Speaker 5: Some of these are not intentional?

1626
01:15:14,280 --> 01:15:14,479
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1627
01:15:16,320 --> 01:15:19,200
Speaker 2: Uh, this is your lock of the week, upset lock

1628
01:15:19,240 --> 01:15:23,600
Speaker 2: of the week Pittsburgh over the Titans. What was the

1629
01:15:23,640 --> 01:15:25,760
Speaker 2: spread to two?

1630
01:15:25,920 --> 01:15:26,720
Speaker 5: Huge upside too.

1631
01:15:26,920 --> 01:15:28,439
Speaker 4: They're gonna win by morn big upset.

1632
01:15:30,040 --> 01:15:33,120
Speaker 2: The New England money's not coming in, so that worries me.

1633
01:15:33,720 --> 01:15:35,360
Speaker 2: That worries me in this game? What do they know

1634
01:15:35,720 --> 01:15:39,280
Speaker 2: what do they know? But I'm gonna say nothing. They

1635
01:15:39,360 --> 01:15:42,360
Speaker 2: know nothing. I thought you were gonna say nothing. Yeah,

1636
01:15:42,880 --> 01:15:48,800
Speaker 2: and he's done that plenty. Yeah, Patriots prevail twenty eight

1637
01:15:51,200 --> 01:15:53,200
Speaker 2: nineteen Patriots.

1638
01:15:53,479 --> 01:15:55,840
Speaker 5: My favorite part of the friend is when he when

1639
01:15:55,880 --> 01:15:58,680
Speaker 5: he gives picks on games that there's some thought to

1640
01:15:59,000 --> 01:16:04,720
Speaker 5: like that one. Right, He's tortured for a minute and

1641
01:16:04,800 --> 01:16:07,000
Speaker 5: then it's really you go either way, and then stays

1642
01:16:07,000 --> 01:16:08,120
Speaker 5: away for a two score win.

1643
01:16:08,280 --> 01:16:08,439
Speaker 17: Right.

1644
01:16:08,600 --> 01:16:10,839
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's another great moment.

1645
01:16:15,560 --> 01:16:16,479
Speaker 5: What about confidence?

1646
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Speaker 5: Do you remember what they really are there?

1655
01:16:47,120 --> 01:16:51,880
Speaker 2: Tire tire tire? All right, Well, guess what Deuce is back?

1656
01:16:54,360 --> 01:16:57,640
Speaker 2: Look who's back from the locker room. What was the

1657
01:16:57,760 --> 01:17:00,120
Speaker 2: mood where the player is friendly to that night of

1658
01:17:00,200 --> 01:17:03,640
Speaker 2: a look like Devin Henry. Hey, Mike, what was it

1659
01:17:03,880 --> 01:17:09,080
Speaker 2: like in the locker room? Hay, Mike, what was it

1660
01:17:09,320 --> 01:17:14,920
Speaker 2: like in the locker room? It's all right, Mike is

1661
01:17:14,960 --> 01:17:16,599
Speaker 2: one of the air. I love that so great.

1662
01:17:16,680 --> 01:17:20,280
Speaker 6: Good vibes, good vibes, pre practice guys strapping on the

1663
01:17:20,360 --> 01:17:22,320
Speaker 6: pads getting ready for a day of work.

1664
01:17:22,800 --> 01:17:23,680
Speaker 2: Uh, that was good.

1665
01:17:23,760 --> 01:17:24,160
Speaker 7: It was good.

1666
01:17:24,560 --> 01:17:28,080
Speaker 6: Little from Austin Hooper, Mac Collins and uh and Will

1667
01:17:28,120 --> 01:17:30,800
Speaker 6: Campbell as well, which Will Campbell scrum kind of happened.

1668
01:17:30,800 --> 01:17:33,880
Speaker 6: I couldn't burrow my way into here, so that one

1669
01:17:34,240 --> 01:17:36,320
Speaker 6: didn't quite catch everything I would have liked to.

1670
01:17:36,479 --> 01:17:39,240
Speaker 7: But overall, everybody, I think just excited to get this

1671
01:17:39,320 --> 01:17:42,360
Speaker 7: thing rolling. That's like we all are. You're preparing for

1672
01:17:42,439 --> 01:17:42,920
Speaker 7: the unknown.

1673
01:17:43,439 --> 01:17:46,479
Speaker 6: As Rabel said, Uh, Mike Collins kind of echoed that,

1674
01:17:46,600 --> 01:17:48,600
Speaker 6: you know, we'll just see what happens and let's, you know,

1675
01:17:48,640 --> 01:17:50,160
Speaker 6: see if our identity carries over.

1676
01:17:50,280 --> 01:17:50,840
Speaker 2: That was this thing.

1677
01:17:50,880 --> 01:17:52,200
Speaker 7: You know, we're gonna be the kind of team that

1678
01:17:52,280 --> 01:17:53,360
Speaker 7: that we think we want to be.

1679
01:17:53,840 --> 01:17:56,040
Speaker 2: So Paul and I were talking before you got here

1680
01:17:57,360 --> 01:18:01,200
Speaker 2: this year Open locker room is before practice. In the past,

1681
01:18:01,280 --> 01:18:04,360
Speaker 2: it's been after practice. You'd notice the difference.

1682
01:18:04,720 --> 01:18:05,280
Speaker 7: A little bit.

1683
01:18:05,360 --> 01:18:09,479
Speaker 6: I mean, it's interesting because I haven't I'm trying to

1684
01:18:09,479 --> 01:18:11,800
Speaker 6: remember because last year we were in the REVS locker room, so.

1685
01:18:12,000 --> 01:18:14,080
Speaker 5: It might have always been. Since you've been here, it

1686
01:18:14,160 --> 01:18:15,320
Speaker 5: may have always been before.

1687
01:18:15,400 --> 01:18:17,160
Speaker 2: I don't think Fridays have been after.

1688
01:18:17,360 --> 01:18:20,320
Speaker 6: Fridays generally are hard to get guys, and it felt

1689
01:18:20,360 --> 01:18:22,840
Speaker 6: like everybody was packing up and getting.

1690
01:18:22,560 --> 01:18:24,400
Speaker 5: It because Bill has done it. You know, Bill for

1691
01:18:24,520 --> 01:18:28,360
Speaker 5: the twenty whatever years did it a variety of different ways.

1692
01:18:28,439 --> 01:18:30,920
Speaker 5: But I think since you've been here, I think it's

1693
01:18:30,960 --> 01:18:34,759
Speaker 5: almost always been the players are available before practice, except

1694
01:18:34,800 --> 01:18:35,320
Speaker 5: for Fridays.

1695
01:18:35,439 --> 01:18:37,280
Speaker 6: Yeah, to you a point, Yeah they were there. I

1696
01:18:37,320 --> 01:18:39,080
Speaker 6: mean I do remember during COVID there were some late

1697
01:18:39,120 --> 01:18:39,960
Speaker 6: of veils and that was.

1698
01:18:39,960 --> 01:18:42,840
Speaker 5: All you know, that was all atual online anyway.

1699
01:18:43,600 --> 01:18:45,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm still kind of getting a feel for the

1700
01:18:45,080 --> 01:18:48,479
Speaker 6: locker room and like how last year it was different

1701
01:18:48,520 --> 01:18:50,680
Speaker 6: and we had set interviews and we're back to kind

1702
01:18:50,720 --> 01:18:52,799
Speaker 6: of free for all scrum style, and I think.

1703
01:18:52,720 --> 01:18:56,519
Speaker 5: Before practice is better. But I definitely see the drawbacks

1704
01:18:56,560 --> 01:18:59,040
Speaker 5: both ways, because before practice they're trying to get dressed

1705
01:18:59,040 --> 01:19:02,400
Speaker 5: and get out practice before they get in trouble. After practice,

1706
01:19:02,439 --> 01:19:05,120
Speaker 5: obviously they're trying to get undressed and get out, but they.

1707
01:19:05,120 --> 01:19:06,679
Speaker 2: Still have to have forty five minutes.

1708
01:19:06,800 --> 01:19:10,519
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, So I just I feel like generally guys

1709
01:19:10,560 --> 01:19:13,240
Speaker 6: are pretty welcoming and warm around the locker room, and

1710
01:19:13,280 --> 01:19:15,040
Speaker 6: we weren't really in there much last year after a

1711
01:19:15,120 --> 01:19:18,839
Speaker 6: certain point. But I would say generally speaking, Mac Collins,

1712
01:19:19,000 --> 01:19:21,760
Speaker 6: you know, Splaine Morgan, Moses, just.

1713
01:19:21,760 --> 01:19:23,720
Speaker 7: Some of those guys, they seem very happy to talk

1714
01:19:23,840 --> 01:19:26,439
Speaker 7: and music playing a little more, not to the extent

1715
01:19:26,520 --> 01:19:28,400
Speaker 7: that there has been in the past. They scent there

1716
01:19:28,439 --> 01:19:29,120
Speaker 7: has been in the past.

1717
01:19:29,160 --> 01:19:32,080
Speaker 6: Then I'm not getting pumped up for practice, but you

1718
01:19:32,160 --> 01:19:33,960
Speaker 6: know there is I think generally, just like I said,

1719
01:19:34,000 --> 01:19:35,760
Speaker 6: the overall overshadow of it all.

1720
01:19:35,640 --> 01:19:37,680
Speaker 2: Any indications of board games.

1721
01:19:38,120 --> 01:19:40,200
Speaker 6: Not that I saw today, you know, with lots of

1722
01:19:40,240 --> 01:19:42,600
Speaker 6: PB and J's and on crustables in there though, like

1723
01:19:42,640 --> 01:19:43,640
Speaker 6: homemade on crystals.

1724
01:19:43,920 --> 01:19:47,120
Speaker 7: And I did some Gonzales walk through and it seems

1725
01:19:47,160 --> 01:19:48,000
Speaker 7: like he's working out.

1726
01:19:48,040 --> 01:19:50,080
Speaker 6: I don't know what it means, but he's definitely not

1727
01:19:50,439 --> 01:19:53,120
Speaker 6: in the you can't do anything planned, so maybe that's

1728
01:19:53,120 --> 01:19:55,040
Speaker 6: a positive sign for Weet two down the road.

1729
01:19:55,240 --> 01:19:59,320
Speaker 2: All right, back to your comments and emails podcasts at

1730
01:19:59,360 --> 01:20:04,920
Speaker 2: Patriots dot is the email address Ted and Las Vegas

1731
01:20:05,000 --> 01:20:09,080
Speaker 2: rites in. He thinks this is an interesting stat. On

1732
01:20:09,240 --> 01:20:13,320
Speaker 2: July twenty fourth, Caesars sportsbook had the Patriots plus seven

1733
01:20:13,400 --> 01:20:16,800
Speaker 2: thousand in the Raiders plus nine thousand to win the

1734
01:20:16,880 --> 01:20:21,040
Speaker 2: Super Bowl. Now the odds are Patriots plus eight thousand

1735
01:20:21,320 --> 01:20:24,600
Speaker 2: and the Raiders are plus forty five hundred. So the

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Speaker 2: Patriots went up a thousand, the Raiders went down by

1737
01:20:27,760 --> 01:20:31,120
Speaker 2: haf from nine thousand to forty five hundred. The Raiders

1738
01:20:31,160 --> 01:20:33,479
Speaker 2: improvement might be due to being in Las Vegas, where

1739
01:20:33,520 --> 01:20:36,840
Speaker 2: Caesars is. The Patriots worsards are probably your reflection on

1740
01:20:36,960 --> 01:20:41,240
Speaker 2: how their preseason went. What do you say? What do

1741
01:20:41,320 --> 01:20:43,519
Speaker 2: the sharps know? That's interesting?

1742
01:20:43,600 --> 01:20:45,760
Speaker 6: I mean we've speculated about all this stuff, like when

1743
01:20:45,800 --> 01:20:47,400
Speaker 6: the line starts to move, what does it mean?

1744
01:20:47,680 --> 01:20:49,519
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't think a lot of I think the

1745
01:20:49,640 --> 01:20:53,599
Speaker 5: Patriots generally get a lot of money. I don't think

1746
01:20:53,640 --> 01:20:55,280
Speaker 5: the Raiders would. I don't think the Raiders have a

1747
01:20:55,320 --> 01:20:56,320
Speaker 5: lot of fans in Vegas.

1748
01:20:58,000 --> 01:20:59,599
Speaker 2: How do you feel if you're a Raiders in right now?

1749
01:21:00,200 --> 01:21:00,559
Speaker 3: You know, like.

1750
01:21:02,120 --> 01:21:04,679
Speaker 5: I'd be I'd be excited about it. But Fred makes

1751
01:21:04,680 --> 01:21:07,640
Speaker 5: a good point about the Gino Smith Bridge guy, like,

1752
01:21:07,720 --> 01:21:10,080
Speaker 5: I'd feel better about it if they had Drad May.

1753
01:21:10,439 --> 01:21:13,960
Speaker 7: And plus Carroll's super old and you can't imagine.

1754
01:21:14,160 --> 01:21:17,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't worry about that because the coaches are interchangeable. Like,

1755
01:21:17,200 --> 01:21:19,000
Speaker 5: if you don't have the talent, you don't have the talent,

1756
01:21:19,560 --> 01:21:22,360
Speaker 5: but you have the talent right now, I'd be much

1757
01:21:22,400 --> 01:21:24,080
Speaker 5: more worried about the Bridge got No, they don't have

1758
01:21:24,160 --> 01:21:24,479
Speaker 5: the talent.

1759
01:21:24,640 --> 01:21:27,040
Speaker 7: They're saying, like, you've got a couple pieces though, yeah, yeah,

1760
01:21:27,200 --> 01:21:27,400
Speaker 7: you know.

1761
01:21:27,760 --> 01:21:29,719
Speaker 5: And that's what I would be excited about. I feel

1762
01:21:29,720 --> 01:21:31,760
Speaker 5: like they have a few, like like Mike said, like

1763
01:21:31,920 --> 01:21:33,919
Speaker 5: Rabel said, you know they have they have some impressive

1764
01:21:33,920 --> 01:21:37,120
Speaker 5: skill position guys to build around if you can get

1765
01:21:37,160 --> 01:21:39,919
Speaker 5: a quarterback now. So they're doing it kind of differently

1766
01:21:40,000 --> 01:21:43,479
Speaker 5: than some other team. You know, Washington got Daniels and

1767
01:21:43,520 --> 01:21:46,519
Speaker 5: they're trying to put the team around him. Patriots obviously

1768
01:21:46,600 --> 01:21:48,439
Speaker 5: got May. Now they're trying to put the team around him.

1769
01:21:48,439 --> 01:21:50,320
Speaker 5: The Raiders saying, let's see if we can get some

1770
01:21:50,360 --> 01:21:54,760
Speaker 5: pieces around him and then find the quarterback. Next year

1771
01:21:54,960 --> 01:21:57,000
Speaker 5: is supposed to be a draft where there's a lot

1772
01:21:57,080 --> 01:22:00,479
Speaker 5: of potential first round pick. Some people think as many

1773
01:22:00,520 --> 01:22:04,320
Speaker 5: as five or six first round quarterbacks potentially. Doesn't mean

1774
01:22:04,360 --> 01:22:06,280
Speaker 5: you're going to get a good one. Yeah, doesn't mean

1775
01:22:06,320 --> 01:22:07,559
Speaker 5: you're going to get a good one. So that's where

1776
01:22:07,640 --> 01:22:11,080
Speaker 5: Fred's point about the difference between the two approaches right

1777
01:22:11,120 --> 01:22:13,280
Speaker 5: now is Geno Smith is a bridge guy, and that

1778
01:22:13,320 --> 01:22:15,760
Speaker 5: would worry me, But Carol, I think is a good

1779
01:22:15,800 --> 01:22:19,720
Speaker 5: guy to be with Gino Smith in the bridge. When

1780
01:22:19,760 --> 01:22:21,880
Speaker 5: you get a quarterback, hopefully you're going to figure out

1781
01:22:21,920 --> 01:22:24,960
Speaker 5: who you coaches, Chip Kelly maybe maybe who knows, who

1782
01:22:25,040 --> 01:22:27,519
Speaker 5: knows it Just it's just a different approach.

1783
01:22:27,680 --> 01:22:30,439
Speaker 6: Yeah, I was, you know, it's not knowniced ince Chicago's

1784
01:22:30,800 --> 01:22:32,720
Speaker 6: roster and just how they've kind of it done it

1785
01:22:32,800 --> 01:22:35,560
Speaker 6: and you know, adding Colston Loveland who was injured and

1786
01:22:36,280 --> 01:22:38,800
Speaker 6: you know last year getting a Dunez but it's still

1787
01:22:39,040 --> 01:22:40,240
Speaker 6: just continuing.

1788
01:22:39,800 --> 01:22:41,880
Speaker 5: To add Peace Weston. Loveland's hurt.

1789
01:22:41,960 --> 01:22:43,639
Speaker 7: Now, he was hurt all summer.

1790
01:22:43,640 --> 01:22:45,200
Speaker 6: I don't know if he's to know now I think

1791
01:22:45,360 --> 01:22:47,439
Speaker 6: I think he is ready to go, But it was

1792
01:22:47,479 --> 01:22:49,200
Speaker 6: a little bit of a projection at that point when

1793
01:22:49,280 --> 01:22:50,000
Speaker 6: he was drafted.

1794
01:22:50,000 --> 01:22:51,600
Speaker 7: I remember with the combine he had his whole his

1795
01:22:51,680 --> 01:22:52,479
Speaker 7: whole arm in hisling.

1796
01:22:52,560 --> 01:22:55,599
Speaker 6: But you know, between them and Detroit and you see

1797
01:22:55,640 --> 01:22:58,839
Speaker 6: some of these teams that just continue to add intriguing

1798
01:22:59,040 --> 01:23:01,879
Speaker 6: offensive talent, and they have it coming up through the pipeline.

1799
01:23:01,920 --> 01:23:04,439
Speaker 7: And I just love to get to that point where you.

1800
01:23:04,479 --> 01:23:06,599
Speaker 6: Know, even if somebody goes down, well we still got

1801
01:23:06,680 --> 01:23:09,639
Speaker 6: this guy kind of coming in and they're insulated. Whereas

1802
01:23:10,040 --> 01:23:12,839
Speaker 6: the Raider is just such an extreme example of having.

1803
01:23:12,880 --> 01:23:15,439
Speaker 7: Brock Bowers the number one, and then Jacobe Myers is

1804
01:23:15,439 --> 01:23:17,560
Speaker 7: a really solid player. But I think they're hoping that

1805
01:23:18,160 --> 01:23:20,040
Speaker 7: those other guys develop, but it's not the same.

1806
01:23:20,439 --> 01:23:21,360
Speaker 2: Some of those teams just have a.

1807
01:23:21,360 --> 01:23:21,960
Speaker 7: Lot of talent.

1808
01:23:22,880 --> 01:23:25,360
Speaker 2: Dan and Poughkeepsie writes in as an avid listener of

1809
01:23:25,400 --> 01:23:27,240
Speaker 2: the show, I constantly have it on in my car

1810
01:23:27,960 --> 01:23:30,280
Speaker 2: with my girlfriend, who's from New Jersey and a big

1811
01:23:30,400 --> 01:23:33,880
Speaker 2: Jets fan. After being exposed to the podcast, she was

1812
01:23:33,960 --> 01:23:38,439
Speaker 2: quick to dislike Paul for his argumentative nature and volume. However,

1813
01:23:38,680 --> 01:23:41,240
Speaker 2: that's fair. She has fully come around to the Great

1814
01:23:41,320 --> 01:23:44,519
Speaker 2: White snark. The start of the turnaround was fair. The

1815
01:23:44,560 --> 01:23:47,639
Speaker 2: turnaround was simple. Paul was referring to a football game

1816
01:23:47,720 --> 01:23:50,160
Speaker 2: in which the Commanders made many mistakes down the stretch,

1817
01:23:50,280 --> 01:23:53,600
Speaker 2: ultimately costing them the game. Paul described the situation as

1818
01:23:53,720 --> 01:23:58,080
Speaker 2: Washington pooping all over themselves. The final verbal gesture to

1819
01:23:58,120 --> 01:23:59,960
Speaker 2: put him as the favorite of the show came last

1820
01:24:00,040 --> 01:24:03,200
Speaker 2: last week. Paul knew the difference between Newark, New Jersey

1821
01:24:03,560 --> 01:24:07,080
Speaker 2: in Newark, Delaware as a proud Delaware Blue hen alump.

1822
01:24:07,200 --> 01:24:09,479
Speaker 2: She was impressed and has become the most recent member

1823
01:24:09,720 --> 01:24:12,280
Speaker 2: of the Paul Fanker. Well, nobody knows, you know, low

1824
01:24:12,400 --> 01:24:14,280
Speaker 2: level college sports, CIA sports.

1825
01:24:14,560 --> 01:24:19,800
Speaker 5: It's fine Australia. I've actually been to Newark, Delaware on

1826
01:24:19,920 --> 01:24:22,479
Speaker 5: the campus of Delaware. They used to host the basketball

1827
01:24:22,560 --> 01:24:24,760
Speaker 5: tournament way back in the day and I covered it

1828
01:24:24,840 --> 01:24:26,800
Speaker 5: for the Herald two or three years.

1829
01:24:27,120 --> 01:24:30,000
Speaker 7: My sister was a Blue hen Oh really did.

1830
01:24:29,960 --> 01:24:30,800
Speaker 2: Not know that he was.

1831
01:24:32,400 --> 01:24:35,760
Speaker 5: But that's generally the way it works. Hatred, followed by

1832
01:24:35,960 --> 01:24:38,120
Speaker 5: you know what, he's not so bad, don't you Usually

1833
01:24:38,120 --> 01:24:38,880
Speaker 5: I just wear him down.

1834
01:24:39,320 --> 01:24:41,120
Speaker 7: What does your brother say? You're like a toothache that's

1835
01:24:41,720 --> 01:24:42,000
Speaker 7: t all.

1836
01:24:41,960 --> 01:24:47,559
Speaker 2: Tooth Just don't go away. Kyle from Pembroke. I think

1837
01:24:47,600 --> 01:24:51,120
Speaker 2: the Patriot's biggest modern rival right now is the Bills.

1838
01:24:51,160 --> 01:24:53,960
Speaker 2: We were talking about rivals. They're eight and three, hammer

1839
01:24:54,040 --> 01:24:56,120
Speaker 2: and nail. Yeah, they're eight and three against us since

1840
01:24:56,160 --> 01:24:58,639
Speaker 2: Brady left, and their rise is correlated with our fall.

1841
01:24:59,080 --> 01:25:04,040
Speaker 5: Not to mention one of those in Hurricane in another

1842
01:25:04,080 --> 01:25:05,880
Speaker 5: and again the Patriots were trying to lose.

1843
01:25:06,320 --> 01:25:08,759
Speaker 2: Not to mention with the hatred between the fan bases,

1844
01:25:08,800 --> 01:25:12,080
Speaker 2: they're clearly the biggest rival. The closest, i'd say, is

1845
01:25:12,120 --> 01:25:15,639
Speaker 2: the Colts. We have athletic quarterbacks drafted in the top

1846
01:25:15,720 --> 01:25:17,320
Speaker 2: five of the draft and we hope could be the

1847
01:25:17,360 --> 01:25:21,599
Speaker 2: franchise quarterback. Both franchises fell from grace since the twenty tens,

1848
01:25:21,640 --> 01:25:24,599
Speaker 2: and games are still close with the fans still hating

1849
01:25:24,680 --> 01:25:27,640
Speaker 2: each other. I don't know about that even with the Bills. Like,

1850
01:25:27,720 --> 01:25:30,000
Speaker 2: you know, that gets into that whole thing about rivals,

1851
01:25:30,400 --> 01:25:32,400
Speaker 2: like do you have to be kind of evenly matched

1852
01:25:32,439 --> 01:25:35,920
Speaker 2: to truly be a rivalry? You know, for years, Red

1853
01:25:35,960 --> 01:25:39,160
Speaker 2: Sox fans considered the Yankees their biggest rival. Yankees fans

1854
01:25:39,200 --> 01:25:40,719
Speaker 2: are like, we don't even.

1855
01:25:40,640 --> 01:25:43,120
Speaker 5: Care who and you know, you know, but the Yankees

1856
01:25:43,120 --> 01:25:46,280
Speaker 5: hated the Red Sox too, Like don't you have to

1857
01:25:46,360 --> 01:25:50,000
Speaker 5: have hatred on both sides? Yes, the Bills, the Bill's

1858
01:25:50,120 --> 01:25:55,720
Speaker 5: rival right now, is not the Patriots, right it's the Chiefs, right, right, right.

1859
01:25:55,960 --> 01:25:57,320
Speaker 5: I don't even think the Patriots will be in the

1860
01:25:57,400 --> 01:25:57,840
Speaker 5: top five.

1861
01:25:58,000 --> 01:25:58,639
Speaker 2: No, I agree.

1862
01:25:58,920 --> 01:26:00,720
Speaker 6: Would you call any of those guys rivals when the

1863
01:26:00,760 --> 01:26:02,400
Speaker 6: Patriots were one in the AFC East.

1864
01:26:02,200 --> 01:26:02,639
Speaker 2: I wouldn't.

1865
01:26:04,400 --> 01:26:09,080
Speaker 5: When Brady wainst Buffalo, it was Pittsburgh. It was the

1866
01:26:09,160 --> 01:26:11,559
Speaker 5: Colts Pittsburgh and the Colts with the two big rivals.

1867
01:26:11,600 --> 01:26:13,320
Speaker 7: So you don't have rivals when you stink? Is that

1868
01:26:14,000 --> 01:26:14,720
Speaker 7: that fair to say?

1869
01:26:14,800 --> 01:26:19,560
Speaker 5: Well? You you think you do, but you's it's like

1870
01:26:19,640 --> 01:26:21,640
Speaker 5: that you know that cartoon with you know, Spike, you

1871
01:26:21,720 --> 01:26:24,519
Speaker 5: know Jesus Pals, right, Spike, just like running around China

1872
01:26:24,680 --> 01:26:26,760
Speaker 5: like you know, it's like Andy Hartt like you heels,

1873
01:26:28,720 --> 01:26:29,880
Speaker 5: go away kid, you bothered me.

1874
01:26:30,560 --> 01:26:32,120
Speaker 6: So maybe that's you know, we want to get back

1875
01:26:32,120 --> 01:26:35,880
Speaker 6: into rivalry setting with with the Dolphins and yeah, yeah,

1876
01:26:36,760 --> 01:26:39,080
Speaker 6: in a competition with them too, Like the Dolphins.

1877
01:26:40,280 --> 01:26:43,000
Speaker 5: You keep saying it you have like goals in your mind,

1878
01:26:43,040 --> 01:26:45,880
Speaker 5: mic and your great is it asking too much? Can

1879
01:26:45,920 --> 01:26:48,639
Speaker 5: we beat Miami just once? When was the last time

1880
01:26:48,680 --> 01:26:49,719
Speaker 5: the Patriots beat Miami?

1881
01:26:50,040 --> 01:26:50,880
Speaker 7: Now to yeah?

1882
01:26:50,920 --> 01:26:53,800
Speaker 2: I mean the one that I think you know can

1883
01:26:53,880 --> 01:26:55,720
Speaker 2: go on both sides is when the Patriots are in

1884
01:26:55,760 --> 01:26:58,639
Speaker 2: the dynasty, always beating the Jets. But then Rex Ryan

1885
01:26:58,720 --> 01:27:00,920
Speaker 2: took over as the head coach the going all of

1886
01:27:00,960 --> 01:27:05,320
Speaker 2: a sudden, All of a sudden, they started competing, and

1887
01:27:05,479 --> 01:27:05,920
Speaker 2: you have this.

1888
01:27:06,240 --> 01:27:08,400
Speaker 5: Was rivalry adjacent at least welcome.

1889
01:27:08,479 --> 01:27:10,519
Speaker 2: I enjoyed those like Rex.

1890
01:27:10,560 --> 01:27:12,720
Speaker 5: Took it as the Patriots are number one rival and

1891
01:27:12,840 --> 01:27:14,840
Speaker 5: we did the whole go away, kid, you bothered me.

1892
01:27:14,880 --> 01:27:15,960
Speaker 5: And then all of a sudden they beat us a

1893
01:27:15,960 --> 01:27:17,800
Speaker 5: couple of times and we said, okay, we got to.

1894
01:27:17,800 --> 01:27:18,479
Speaker 2: Take this seriously.

1895
01:27:18,760 --> 01:27:20,880
Speaker 5: And then they never won again. Right now, you just

1896
01:27:20,920 --> 01:27:21,400
Speaker 5: can't leave.

1897
01:27:21,720 --> 01:27:23,000
Speaker 2: I liked those years.

1898
01:27:23,000 --> 01:27:24,840
Speaker 7: I mean, it was rest driving, drive you nuts, but

1899
01:27:24,960 --> 01:27:26,720
Speaker 7: it was great for the rivalry and.

1900
01:27:27,080 --> 01:27:29,519
Speaker 5: Ryan so much juice for eleven.

1901
01:27:29,680 --> 01:27:32,320
Speaker 2: It was good theater. God did he annoy me, it was,

1902
01:27:32,400 --> 01:27:34,600
Speaker 2: but it was good. It was good drama. It was

1903
01:27:34,680 --> 01:27:35,240
Speaker 2: good drama.

1904
01:27:35,400 --> 01:27:35,840
Speaker 7: So mad.

1905
01:27:35,920 --> 01:27:38,160
Speaker 6: I still remember the lead up into that, like nine

1906
01:27:38,240 --> 01:27:41,880
Speaker 6: and oh he just so wanted to beat that so bad.

1907
01:27:41,760 --> 01:27:43,240
Speaker 7: And then Wes Welker wasn't gonna play or not.

1908
01:27:43,320 --> 01:27:45,360
Speaker 6: I just remember I've said it before, walking down to

1909
01:27:45,400 --> 01:27:46,840
Speaker 6: like get my coffee before the game and.

1910
01:27:48,600 --> 01:27:50,000
Speaker 3: Trying so mad.

1911
01:27:50,479 --> 01:27:52,160
Speaker 5: That was the players in ten.

1912
01:27:52,400 --> 01:27:53,160
Speaker 7: Oh, that one too.

1913
01:27:53,200 --> 01:27:55,679
Speaker 5: It was a division a round game that was tough.

1914
01:27:55,880 --> 01:27:56,519
Speaker 7: He wasn't hurt.

1915
01:27:56,600 --> 01:28:01,720
Speaker 2: He was Lucy Wright Soldier. My dad and I both

1916
01:28:01,840 --> 01:28:04,360
Speaker 2: listened to the podcast and our washer just broke down.

1917
01:28:04,720 --> 01:28:07,519
Speaker 2: He's thinking of buying another brand besides Speed Queen. Please

1918
01:28:07,600 --> 01:28:09,840
Speaker 2: convince him that Speed Queen is worth the extra charge.

1919
01:28:09,960 --> 01:28:12,400
Speaker 5: I just got a Samsung and I'm very very happy

1920
01:28:12,479 --> 01:28:15,800
Speaker 5: with it. Okay, I have Samsung Washer and dry.

1921
01:28:15,840 --> 01:28:16,600
Speaker 2: How long have you had it?

1922
01:28:17,320 --> 01:28:17,439
Speaker 3: Oh?

1923
01:28:17,479 --> 01:28:19,400
Speaker 5: I just got it just I literally just said I

1924
01:28:19,600 --> 01:28:20,080
Speaker 5: just got.

1925
01:28:20,000 --> 01:28:25,880
Speaker 2: It anyway, No, I in year it. Just if you

1926
01:28:25,960 --> 01:28:29,479
Speaker 2: have a big family like some of like the Samsung LG,

1927
01:28:30,479 --> 01:28:34,719
Speaker 2: and you need all the bells and whistles, Speed Queen

1928
01:28:34,800 --> 01:28:35,720
Speaker 2: may not be the way to go.

1929
01:28:36,439 --> 01:28:37,639
Speaker 5: I don't have bells and whistles.

1930
01:28:37,760 --> 01:28:38,920
Speaker 2: You don't have bells and whistles on.

1931
01:28:38,920 --> 01:28:41,960
Speaker 5: Your e Maybe nester now, maybe a whistle.

1932
01:28:42,160 --> 01:28:44,360
Speaker 2: So why did you get the Speed Queen because I don't.

1933
01:28:44,160 --> 01:28:44,960
Speaker 5: Want to Speed Queen.

1934
01:28:45,000 --> 01:28:45,200
Speaker 14: Why?

1935
01:28:45,280 --> 01:28:47,240
Speaker 5: Why sounds expensive? It isn't.

1936
01:28:47,720 --> 01:28:48,320
Speaker 2: That's the point.

1937
01:28:48,360 --> 01:28:50,240
Speaker 5: I got it really cheap. I got it really cheap.

1938
01:28:50,360 --> 01:28:51,880
Speaker 2: You just have to put quarters in it every time

1939
01:28:51,920 --> 01:28:55,520
Speaker 2: you want to use it. It sounds like it sounds industrial.

1940
01:28:56,040 --> 01:28:59,200
Speaker 2: They do have a model that the laundrymats us because

1941
01:28:59,240 --> 01:29:03,479
Speaker 2: they don't break down quarters. They don't break down. Damn

1942
01:29:03,520 --> 01:29:05,679
Speaker 2: machine took my quarter. You know, look at your drum.

1943
01:29:05,840 --> 01:29:07,479
Speaker 2: What's it made of? Probably plastic?

1944
01:29:07,600 --> 01:29:08,160
Speaker 5: No, it's metal.

1945
01:29:08,240 --> 01:29:08,880
Speaker 2: Oh it's steel.

1946
01:29:09,200 --> 01:29:10,720
Speaker 5: Well, I don't know if it's steel, but it's some

1947
01:29:10,840 --> 01:29:11,559
Speaker 5: kind of It have to.

1948
01:29:11,560 --> 01:29:14,080
Speaker 2: Be something that doesn't rush. Yeah, yeah, okay, all right,

1949
01:29:15,080 --> 01:29:15,559
Speaker 2: fair point.

1950
01:29:15,640 --> 01:29:17,720
Speaker 5: You know, I'm not the brightest ball on the tree

1951
01:29:17,800 --> 01:29:19,639
Speaker 5: yet it's gonna get wet.

1952
01:29:22,320 --> 01:29:22,960
Speaker 2: He looked at me with.

1953
01:29:27,560 --> 01:29:29,559
Speaker 7: We're on his side of the street and try talking dryers.

1954
01:29:29,640 --> 01:29:31,280
Speaker 2: I know, I felt like I was you know, usually

1955
01:29:31,320 --> 01:29:33,320
Speaker 2: I'm all snarky. I was on the defensive there. I

1956
01:29:33,360 --> 01:29:36,400
Speaker 2: don't know what I was doing anyway. Well, no, I'm

1957
01:29:36,400 --> 01:29:37,840
Speaker 2: not going to tell your dad what to do. But

1958
01:29:38,000 --> 01:29:40,480
Speaker 2: if if you look in and it's they're not that expensive.

1959
01:29:41,400 --> 01:29:42,840
Speaker 2: If you're looking for something that is.

1960
01:29:42,880 --> 01:29:46,160
Speaker 5: What's not that expensive, like regular household the house afore.

1961
01:29:45,960 --> 01:29:47,760
Speaker 2: It's been so long since I bought it because it

1962
01:29:47,800 --> 01:29:48,519
Speaker 2: doesn't break down?

1963
01:29:48,720 --> 01:29:51,640
Speaker 5: Husband, wife, two point three kids, what's what do you

1964
01:29:51,720 --> 01:29:52,080
Speaker 5: think that's?

1965
01:29:52,080 --> 01:29:53,920
Speaker 2: I have no idea. I'm not I haven't been in

1966
01:29:54,000 --> 01:29:55,800
Speaker 2: the market for a while. Let's price this.

1967
01:29:55,880 --> 01:29:58,519
Speaker 5: Out, because I want to see if I like, I

1968
01:29:58,600 --> 01:30:00,360
Speaker 5: actually didn't even see any speech queens.

1969
01:30:00,360 --> 01:30:01,760
Speaker 2: To be honest with you, Well, you have to go

1970
01:30:01,840 --> 01:30:02,759
Speaker 2: to certain places.

1971
01:30:03,760 --> 01:30:04,639
Speaker 5: You get a knock on the door.

1972
01:30:05,160 --> 01:30:06,920
Speaker 2: If you go to the big box stores.

1973
01:30:06,960 --> 01:30:08,720
Speaker 5: They don't big box scores don't have So I did

1974
01:30:08,800 --> 01:30:10,160
Speaker 5: get it at a big box, Yeah.

1975
01:30:10,320 --> 01:30:11,960
Speaker 2: They don't have those. You got to go to the

1976
01:30:12,040 --> 01:30:13,000
Speaker 2: appliance store.

1977
01:30:13,840 --> 01:30:15,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, which I've generally done in the past, and I

1978
01:30:15,800 --> 01:30:18,760
Speaker 5: would wholeheartedly agree with your theory of you're much better

1979
01:30:18,840 --> 01:30:22,400
Speaker 5: off going to the appliance stores. Unfortunately, they're going.

1980
01:30:22,840 --> 01:30:24,959
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's hard to find them, hard to find.

1981
01:30:24,720 --> 01:30:26,439
Speaker 5: The ones that the one that I got all my

1982
01:30:26,479 --> 01:30:28,639
Speaker 5: appliances when we first bought our house is gone.

1983
01:30:28,800 --> 01:30:31,360
Speaker 6: Yeah, jeez, I mean these are some of these pretty

1984
01:30:31,439 --> 01:30:34,519
Speaker 6: nice though. For the combo, I mean you're talking almost

1985
01:30:34,560 --> 01:30:38,200
Speaker 6: three grand for the high end, you know, twenty six incher,

1986
01:30:39,160 --> 01:30:40,240
Speaker 6: but you go a little smaller.

1987
01:30:40,680 --> 01:30:42,839
Speaker 7: Did you have a thirteen comedy?

1988
01:30:42,920 --> 01:30:43,080
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1989
01:30:43,080 --> 01:30:44,040
Speaker 5: I paid less than half that.

1990
01:30:44,240 --> 01:30:47,320
Speaker 7: Yeah, less combinations for both washer and the drive.

1991
01:30:47,400 --> 01:30:49,880
Speaker 5: Oh okay, so I paid about that. Then if you're

1992
01:30:50,000 --> 01:30:52,160
Speaker 5: you know, you're going to go in reasonable six six

1993
01:30:52,280 --> 01:30:54,400
Speaker 5: hundred or so, for one or the other.

1994
01:30:54,560 --> 01:30:56,240
Speaker 2: So we'll see if your dad wants to call in,

1995
01:30:56,640 --> 01:30:57,120
Speaker 2: we can talk.

1996
01:30:57,680 --> 01:30:59,680
Speaker 5: Fred will talk you through it and he'll take care

1997
01:30:59,680 --> 01:31:01,479
Speaker 5: of you. What do I gotta do to get you

1998
01:31:01,600 --> 01:31:03,880
Speaker 5: in this speed Queen by the end of the show.

1999
01:31:04,560 --> 01:31:06,560
Speaker 2: Now, listen the way I found out about him. I

2000
01:31:06,680 --> 01:31:08,680
Speaker 2: was in the market. This is years ago, and I

2001
01:31:08,760 --> 01:31:11,840
Speaker 2: was in Foxboro and there was this little appliance guy

2002
01:31:11,960 --> 01:31:14,640
Speaker 2: in the bot in Foxborough Center in the basement and

2003
01:31:14,720 --> 01:31:16,479
Speaker 2: I walked in and I, you know, I was like,

2004
01:31:16,800 --> 01:31:18,720
Speaker 2: not shady at all. Yeah, I was mentioning, you know

2005
01:31:19,320 --> 01:31:21,599
Speaker 2: the major brands. He goes, have you thought about speed Queen?

2006
01:31:21,720 --> 01:31:23,880
Speaker 2: I said, I have no idea. I've never seen he goes,

2007
01:31:24,520 --> 01:31:26,760
Speaker 2: just check it out moment.

2008
01:31:29,280 --> 01:31:31,519
Speaker 5: Not shady at all. I'm sure they weren't running with

2009
01:31:31,640 --> 01:31:32,040
Speaker 5: it right there.

2010
01:31:32,240 --> 01:31:36,160
Speaker 2: I didn't buy it from him, the Blackjack going. I

2011
01:31:36,200 --> 01:31:37,720
Speaker 2: did end up buying it, but not from him.

2012
01:31:37,800 --> 01:31:40,160
Speaker 7: But yeah, do you need a gun to or anything

2013
01:31:40,200 --> 01:31:40,360
Speaker 7: like that?

2014
01:31:41,439 --> 01:31:44,080
Speaker 2: Lett Wheel in the corner. Guy who's asking I got

2015
01:31:44,120 --> 01:31:44,880
Speaker 2: some speed queens?

2016
01:31:44,920 --> 01:31:45,040
Speaker 16: Right?

2017
01:31:45,560 --> 01:31:51,439
Speaker 2: Who's asking? Joseph, the biggest Patriot Patriots fan in Hillsboro, Oregon,

2018
01:31:53,000 --> 01:31:56,360
Speaker 2: have a very important question for Deuce about a subject

2019
01:31:56,479 --> 01:31:59,599
Speaker 2: that has not been covered enough. What does Mike Vrabel

2020
01:31:59,640 --> 01:32:03,000
Speaker 2: wear a sideline for week one? Does weather play a factor?

2021
01:32:03,080 --> 01:32:05,000
Speaker 2: Or is Rabes a hardo that will wear the same

2022
01:32:05,080 --> 01:32:08,040
Speaker 2: fit every game? Will he out drip Pete Carroll? Now

2023
01:32:08,120 --> 01:32:09,839
Speaker 2: he loves the vest and the red sleeves.

2024
01:32:09,920 --> 01:32:11,960
Speaker 6: I think we've seen that. You have seen some wind breakers.

2025
01:32:12,000 --> 01:32:15,000
Speaker 6: But I will say one other thing too. Bill Belichick

2026
01:32:15,040 --> 01:32:17,040
Speaker 6: wore the cutoffs to Hoodie and he got interviewed about

2027
01:32:17,080 --> 01:32:18,479
Speaker 6: it and he's like, yeah, that's kind of my thing,

2028
01:32:18,560 --> 01:32:21,560
Speaker 6: and I'm like, thank you. He always just asked like,

2029
01:32:21,960 --> 01:32:23,519
Speaker 6: I don't know, it was just hanging up in there.

2030
01:32:23,600 --> 01:32:24,479
Speaker 2: I put it on, you know.

2031
01:32:24,600 --> 01:32:27,760
Speaker 7: But they clearly his first game had to go with

2032
01:32:27,840 --> 01:32:28,519
Speaker 7: the great cutoffs.

2033
01:32:28,520 --> 01:32:30,320
Speaker 5: So unfortunately you couldn't find one that fit.

2034
01:32:31,680 --> 01:32:32,800
Speaker 7: To go to the double XL.

2035
01:32:32,840 --> 01:32:38,240
Speaker 5: I think, oh, Rabel, Yeah, the Rabel will most likely

2036
01:32:38,360 --> 01:32:41,080
Speaker 5: have some sort of vest off with the red sleeves.

2037
01:32:41,360 --> 01:32:44,840
Speaker 5: Pete Carroll will have just the mono color all that black,

2038
01:32:45,479 --> 01:32:49,320
Speaker 5: like dry fit, long sleeve shirt on that. Yeah, you

2039
01:32:49,400 --> 01:32:52,920
Speaker 5: want to come like really active, like his life's depending

2040
01:32:53,000 --> 01:32:56,800
Speaker 5: on you know, choose per per minute, right, That's what

2041
01:32:56,920 --> 01:32:59,599
Speaker 5: he wore the Seahawks he always had the Seahawks blue

2042
01:33:00,120 --> 01:33:01,840
Speaker 5: long sleeve drive fit. I'm sure.

2043
01:33:01,880 --> 01:33:04,360
Speaker 6: I respective Rabel's got a look and he just kind

2044
01:33:04,360 --> 01:33:05,800
Speaker 6: of sticks with it. And kind of like we were

2045
01:33:05,800 --> 01:33:07,439
Speaker 6: talking off air, I have a friend who only wore

2046
01:33:07,479 --> 01:33:08,120
Speaker 6: black T shirts.

2047
01:33:08,160 --> 01:33:09,240
Speaker 7: Like you just you don't want to think a.

2048
01:33:09,240 --> 01:33:11,400
Speaker 5: Lot of coaches have a look and they just stick

2049
01:33:11,479 --> 01:33:14,160
Speaker 5: with it. It's just that Belichick's was just so different.

2050
01:33:14,200 --> 01:33:16,160
Speaker 7: Yeah, Rape's got those long arms, and I think that, like,

2051
01:33:16,240 --> 01:33:16,719
Speaker 7: you know, it's.

2052
01:33:16,960 --> 01:33:18,000
Speaker 5: Accentuates the best.

2053
01:33:18,760 --> 01:33:19,920
Speaker 7: Yeah, like it.

2054
01:33:20,280 --> 01:33:23,759
Speaker 5: Are you going to track this now? Maybe tell the truth.

2055
01:33:23,840 --> 01:33:25,280
Speaker 5: You don't have to hide it from me. I'm going

2056
01:33:25,320 --> 01:33:25,800
Speaker 5: to make fun of you.

2057
01:33:26,040 --> 01:33:28,000
Speaker 6: Probably going to make how about this. I'll start making

2058
01:33:28,080 --> 01:33:29,560
Speaker 6: notes of what he's wearing. And if I start to

2059
01:33:29,600 --> 01:33:32,680
Speaker 6: see trends and there's like some different options, but.

2060
01:33:32,720 --> 01:33:34,519
Speaker 2: You don't want to start from behind. You have to

2061
01:33:34,600 --> 01:33:34,840
Speaker 2: kind of.

2062
01:33:37,400 --> 01:33:40,040
Speaker 6: Track it, and then it might lead to the establishment

2063
01:33:40,240 --> 01:33:42,160
Speaker 6: of a Mike Vrabel vest database.

2064
01:33:42,240 --> 01:33:46,240
Speaker 7: Perhaps we'll see okay, all right, but excited.

2065
01:33:46,320 --> 01:33:49,240
Speaker 5: I just like the fact that, yes, Fred, he's already

2066
01:33:49,280 --> 01:33:50,080
Speaker 5: given it some thought.

2067
01:33:50,120 --> 01:33:53,920
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, oh well, I got a thing, you know, I'm.

2068
01:33:53,880 --> 01:33:55,400
Speaker 5: Just trying to capture the spirit of the thing.

2069
01:33:55,680 --> 01:33:59,920
Speaker 2: Call from Galway, Ireland rights in. Was it just me

2070
01:34:00,520 --> 01:34:03,560
Speaker 2: or was there an undertone of Rabel being annoyed with

2071
01:34:03,680 --> 01:34:06,080
Speaker 2: Gonzo in the press conference? Felt to me that he

2072
01:34:06,120 --> 01:34:08,439
Speaker 2: thought he could train but decided not to. Might be

2073
01:34:08,520 --> 01:34:10,960
Speaker 2: reading it all wrong, but something to keep an eye on.

2074
01:34:12,000 --> 01:34:13,720
Speaker 6: I thought he was a kid just getting annoyed that

2075
01:34:13,880 --> 01:34:16,920
Speaker 6: all they were asking about was Christian Gonzalez in week

2076
01:34:17,000 --> 01:34:20,040
Speaker 6: one of against the Raiders. I mean at that particular moment.

2077
01:34:20,080 --> 01:34:22,320
Speaker 6: I don't know if he's saying generally today.

2078
01:34:22,400 --> 01:34:24,880
Speaker 5: I didn't necessarily see that, but I do think he

2079
01:34:25,000 --> 01:34:27,200
Speaker 5: has been I think he was a little bit on Monday.

2080
01:34:27,800 --> 01:34:29,519
Speaker 7: Soft tissue injuries not his favorite.

2081
01:34:30,400 --> 01:34:36,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, Mowen, Rhode Island. Last week, Paul started talking

2082
01:34:36,240 --> 01:34:38,920
Speaker 2: about why the Patriots aren't the Boston Patriots, but something

2083
01:34:39,000 --> 01:34:41,800
Speaker 2: came up that interrupted the story. Could he pick that

2084
01:34:42,000 --> 01:34:46,040
Speaker 2: back up? And ps? Foxborough was closer to Providence than Boston.

2085
01:34:49,520 --> 01:34:52,240
Speaker 2: You said that Billy Sullivan was mad.

2086
01:34:52,360 --> 01:34:54,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, he got pissy because he couldn't build a

2087
01:34:54,840 --> 01:34:57,320
Speaker 5: stadium in Boston and then they ended up moving and

2088
01:34:57,400 --> 01:34:58,519
Speaker 5: that's why he changed it from.

2089
01:34:58,439 --> 01:35:01,879
Speaker 7: Boston here a stadium. When they made the stadium to Foxboro.

2090
01:35:02,400 --> 01:35:03,599
Speaker 5: The old Shaffer Stadium.

2091
01:35:03,960 --> 01:35:06,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, because for people.

2092
01:35:06,000 --> 01:35:08,240
Speaker 5: I don't know all the details because I wasn't around.

2093
01:35:08,479 --> 01:35:11,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean for people who weren't around back then.

2094
01:35:11,360 --> 01:35:14,680
Speaker 2: Before the Patriots played in Foxborough, they played they were nomads.

2095
01:35:15,080 --> 01:35:17,280
Speaker 2: They played at bu they played at Harvard, they played

2096
01:35:17,360 --> 01:35:21,200
Speaker 2: one season at Fenway. So they didn't have a home.

2097
01:35:21,960 --> 01:35:24,960
Speaker 2: And like Paul said, the Sullivans were trying to build

2098
01:35:25,040 --> 01:35:27,360
Speaker 2: something in Boston and they just couldn't get it done.

2099
01:35:27,439 --> 01:35:30,519
Speaker 2: And they had this land down here in Foxborough next

2100
01:35:30,560 --> 01:35:32,599
Speaker 2: to the race, the horse race track, and so they

2101
01:35:32,680 --> 01:35:36,760
Speaker 2: built you know, which basically was a dump. It was

2102
01:35:37,200 --> 01:35:39,439
Speaker 2: actually the Bill Stadium was built at the same time.

2103
01:35:39,560 --> 01:35:42,000
Speaker 2: It's exactly the same the two of them were built.

2104
01:35:43,000 --> 01:35:44,120
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, and they're both dumps.

2105
01:35:44,479 --> 01:35:47,320
Speaker 2: Now they've added to it. Yeah, but you know, just

2106
01:35:47,400 --> 01:35:52,800
Speaker 2: concrete bowls literally a real dump. And and uh but

2107
01:35:53,520 --> 01:35:55,559
Speaker 2: I will say one thing for the Sullivans, they were

2108
01:35:55,640 --> 01:35:57,519
Speaker 2: one of the first teams to start the trend of

2109
01:35:57,600 --> 01:35:58,759
Speaker 2: naming rights for the stadium.

2110
01:35:58,800 --> 01:36:02,360
Speaker 5: Absolutely. I think shape the Shaffer Stadium was an endorsement deal,

2111
01:36:02,560 --> 01:36:06,560
Speaker 5: which I never actually knew growing up. Yeah, so that

2112
01:36:07,000 --> 01:36:09,720
Speaker 5: was they they saved the way for that Mike, I

2113
01:36:09,760 --> 01:36:13,679
Speaker 5: don't know if you know, but Schaefer is the one

2114
01:36:13,760 --> 01:36:16,880
Speaker 5: beer to have when you're having more than one, right.

2115
01:36:16,840 --> 01:36:19,799
Speaker 7: Wow, if you're out there to get wasted.

2116
01:36:20,640 --> 01:36:23,599
Speaker 5: That was like the things you used to and forget about,

2117
01:36:23,640 --> 01:36:26,679
Speaker 5: like you you would advertise like cigarettes and ever else,

2118
01:36:26,760 --> 01:36:29,360
Speaker 5: but like Schaefer is the.

2119
01:36:29,840 --> 01:36:33,280
Speaker 2: One beer to have when you're having more than one.

2120
01:36:33,520 --> 01:36:37,479
Speaker 7: So they went out of business. I don't know is

2121
01:36:37,520 --> 01:36:39,840
Speaker 7: it's still I mean, the land of craft beers and

2122
01:36:39,880 --> 01:36:42,000
Speaker 7: everybody's there. There's millions of beers in that one.

2123
01:36:42,960 --> 01:36:46,280
Speaker 2: But it's amazing, like as a kid, the jingles that

2124
01:36:46,400 --> 01:36:48,120
Speaker 2: you remember that I'm.

2125
01:36:48,000 --> 01:36:51,320
Speaker 5: Designed for right, yeah, well it's like you do all

2126
01:36:51,360 --> 01:36:51,599
Speaker 5: the time.

2127
01:36:51,840 --> 01:36:57,320
Speaker 6: Oh when they when they hijack an old song for

2128
01:36:57,400 --> 01:37:00,320
Speaker 6: a for a like some kind of medication or saw

2129
01:37:00,360 --> 01:37:01,800
Speaker 6: that always those those are the worst.

2130
01:37:02,560 --> 01:37:06,080
Speaker 7: John and South Beer exists and Paps Brewing Company owns it.

2131
01:37:06,240 --> 01:37:09,000
Speaker 2: Owns it. Okay, makes sense, Swill.

2132
01:37:09,880 --> 01:37:12,120
Speaker 5: I don't think I've ever had a shape of beer.

2133
01:37:13,600 --> 01:37:16,200
Speaker 2: Young well it was still around.

2134
01:37:16,880 --> 01:37:17,599
Speaker 5: I don't think that would.

2135
01:37:17,680 --> 01:37:18,519
Speaker 7: I don't think.

2136
01:37:20,840 --> 01:37:25,559
Speaker 2: John John in South Carolina. I agree with what you're

2137
01:37:25,600 --> 01:37:28,599
Speaker 2: saying about the rivals in Buffalo. Buffalo with the exception

2138
01:37:28,760 --> 01:37:31,559
Speaker 2: of if a fan base buys a billboard harassing another

2139
01:37:31,680 --> 01:37:34,800
Speaker 2: fan group, they have created a rivalry where one should

2140
01:37:34,840 --> 01:37:35,400
Speaker 2: not exist.

2141
01:37:36,240 --> 01:37:37,519
Speaker 5: They definitely were trolling.

2142
01:37:37,720 --> 01:37:39,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that was agree with that.

2143
01:37:39,640 --> 01:37:41,120
Speaker 7: That was a couple of years ago though. I think

2144
01:37:41,160 --> 01:37:42,120
Speaker 7: that was the early.

2145
01:37:43,640 --> 01:37:45,360
Speaker 6: When they first got it and it was all new

2146
01:37:45,400 --> 01:37:47,360
Speaker 6: to them and they were, you know, feeling themselves. And

2147
01:37:47,439 --> 01:37:49,360
Speaker 6: now the Bills have realized that, like there's not really

2148
01:37:49,400 --> 01:37:52,000
Speaker 6: all that much joy in winning the division. You know,

2149
01:37:52,080 --> 01:37:55,600
Speaker 6: you start getting these AFC championships and real competition and

2150
01:37:56,120 --> 01:37:58,120
Speaker 6: you're like, you're like, what do I care about? You know,

2151
01:37:58,200 --> 01:37:59,960
Speaker 6: the AFC is great, Like it's a hatt and teacher

2152
01:38:00,120 --> 01:38:01,759
Speaker 6: game in the third, second week of December.

2153
01:38:01,920 --> 01:38:03,360
Speaker 5: A couple of years there were like they had to

2154
01:38:03,400 --> 01:38:05,360
Speaker 5: beat Miami like on the last game of the season

2155
01:38:05,439 --> 01:38:07,880
Speaker 5: to win the division. I'm sure that was satisfying for him.

2156
01:38:07,920 --> 01:38:10,800
Speaker 7: But now it's like they're tying last Jelie and they're

2157
01:38:10,880 --> 01:38:12,160
Speaker 7: just looking at the mean he said, what were you

2158
01:38:12,240 --> 01:38:15,519
Speaker 7: guys saying, how do we get past the ABC champions Back.

2159
01:38:15,439 --> 01:38:17,080
Speaker 5: In the heyday, Fred, we would have hat and T

2160
01:38:17,200 --> 01:38:18,160
Speaker 5: shirt games in November.

2161
01:38:18,280 --> 01:38:20,479
Speaker 7: That's right. I don't think about you at all. Like,

2162
01:38:20,560 --> 01:38:23,000
Speaker 7: I don't think about once you get.

2163
01:38:22,880 --> 01:38:25,000
Speaker 5: To that point, and I don't even know, like Kobe

2164
01:38:25,080 --> 01:38:26,519
Speaker 5: brought who you Who's he?

2165
01:38:26,680 --> 01:38:29,280
Speaker 2: I don't think about Tim, And Hilton Head thinks he's

2166
01:38:29,320 --> 01:38:31,240
Speaker 2: going to be a smarty pants, he says. Fred looks

2167
01:38:31,240 --> 01:38:33,639
Speaker 2: at Paul with other disgusts and claims Steele doesn't rust.

2168
01:38:34,080 --> 01:38:36,280
Speaker 2: I guess Pittsburgh shouldn't be part of the Roust Belt

2169
01:38:36,360 --> 01:38:39,280
Speaker 2: with all that steel. The rust Belt got the name

2170
01:38:39,360 --> 01:38:42,280
Speaker 2: because of the closed factories that all got rusted out.

2171
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Speaker 2: Oh is that true? Yeah, I did not know that. Ohio, Cleveland, Pittsburgh, Cleveland.

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01:38:47,120 --> 01:38:50,479
Speaker 2: It's because in Buffalo. It's because all these factories along

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01:38:50,600 --> 01:38:53,200
Speaker 2: the various lakes there closed up.

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Speaker 5: And now if Google search on that, would it back

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Speaker 5: that up?

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01:38:56,800 --> 01:38:59,880
Speaker 2: Well, stainless steel, stainless steel does not russ.

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01:39:00,160 --> 01:39:02,519
Speaker 5: No, I that I know, But I never knew the

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01:39:02,600 --> 01:39:04,479
Speaker 5: origins of the term roust belt.

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Speaker 3: I like that.

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01:39:05,240 --> 01:39:10,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, what about dustball dustbel that's part of that's right,

2181
01:39:10,920 --> 01:39:13,439
Speaker 2: during the depression, it all dried up.

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01:39:13,520 --> 01:39:16,920
Speaker 6: And well, so I saw a statu or something that said, again,

2183
01:39:16,960 --> 01:39:19,320
Speaker 6: this is like I picked up random information from the Internet,

2184
01:39:19,400 --> 01:39:21,759
Speaker 6: but it said that when the dust ball was originally settled,

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01:39:21,800 --> 01:39:26,360
Speaker 6: it was unseasonably like had been an unseasonably period of moisture,

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01:39:26,439 --> 01:39:30,720
Speaker 6: and so the land was actually falsely point and when

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01:39:30,720 --> 01:39:34,080
Speaker 6: they switch and then time finally caught up, the soil

2188
01:39:34,160 --> 01:39:38,040
Speaker 6: went to crap and and you know, okay, corporate covering

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01:39:38,040 --> 01:39:38,400
Speaker 6: it all hair.

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01:39:38,960 --> 01:39:41,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is what we generally provide.

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01:39:41,560 --> 01:39:46,519
Speaker 5: In Week one of the NFL Sins and washing machines. Okay,

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Speaker 5: fan piccon Claire Wrights in, Hello.

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01:39:49,640 --> 01:39:52,560
Speaker 2: Everyone, Hello Marine, I gotta see. I see all the

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01:39:52,640 --> 01:39:56,040
Speaker 2: divisional teams as rivals. I don't hate equally, but Bill's,

2195
01:39:56,080 --> 01:39:57,479
Speaker 2: Finn's Jets, I hate them all.

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01:39:58,000 --> 01:40:00,439
Speaker 5: I would agree with that divisional rivals you're the ones

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01:40:00,479 --> 01:40:01,439
Speaker 5: that you hate.

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01:40:01,560 --> 01:40:03,160
Speaker 2: But I really struggle to hate the Bills.

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Speaker 6: And I don't know, maybe that's just the me problem.

2200
01:40:04,960 --> 01:40:07,080
Speaker 6: Like I still have a little hate firing me from

2201
01:40:07,120 --> 01:40:08,880
Speaker 6: my fan days for the Dolphins and the.

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01:40:08,920 --> 01:40:12,320
Speaker 5: Jets for me Miami. I still don't like the Bills.

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01:40:12,520 --> 01:40:15,160
Speaker 6: There's just something about them that, like I see a

2204
01:40:15,160 --> 01:40:17,080
Speaker 6: little bit of the Patriots in them, and the Patriots

2205
01:40:17,200 --> 01:40:18,840
Speaker 6: being like the team that couldn't quite get over the

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01:40:18,920 --> 01:40:21,519
Speaker 6: hump and never had that success. And then like I

2207
01:40:21,560 --> 01:40:23,760
Speaker 6: don't know, there's such a passionate fan base and there's

2208
01:40:23,800 --> 01:40:24,519
Speaker 6: not much up there.

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Speaker 7: I know, I'm yeah, this is blasphemy right now.

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01:40:27,920 --> 01:40:29,200
Speaker 2: I don't know.

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01:40:29,240 --> 01:40:30,400
Speaker 7: I don't hate them, you know, I.

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01:40:30,400 --> 01:40:33,080
Speaker 5: Don't hate really like that. Like I like Josh Allen

2213
01:40:33,120 --> 01:40:35,560
Speaker 5: and I do like if they play the Chiefs, I

2214
01:40:35,680 --> 01:40:38,000
Speaker 5: root for the Bills, you know, in those in those

2215
01:40:38,080 --> 01:40:40,240
Speaker 5: big games, because they can't get over the hump, you know,

2216
01:40:40,439 --> 01:40:43,080
Speaker 5: Like I guess you're not supposed to. If you're a

2217
01:40:43,120 --> 01:40:45,000
Speaker 5: Patriots fan, you should be rooting against the Bills.

2218
01:40:45,200 --> 01:40:46,960
Speaker 7: I don't know, Yeah, I don't think I could ever

2219
01:40:47,040 --> 01:40:47,599
Speaker 7: do it for the Bills.

2220
01:40:47,760 --> 01:40:49,000
Speaker 2: I mean for the Jets or Dolphins.

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01:40:49,680 --> 01:40:52,160
Speaker 5: Maybe it's just because I like Josh, I hate I

2222
01:40:52,240 --> 01:40:56,000
Speaker 5: hated Don Shula and then Marino came and I hate,

2223
01:40:56,160 --> 01:40:57,720
Speaker 5: like they just couldn't beat them.

2224
01:40:57,760 --> 01:41:01,880
Speaker 2: I loved Larry's hunka oh, I just love Larry that

2225
01:41:01,880 --> 01:41:06,160
Speaker 2: a little like that before my day, well he was

2226
01:41:06,240 --> 01:41:08,519
Speaker 2: a fullback, but I like he was like a running back,

2227
01:41:08,680 --> 01:41:10,640
Speaker 2: you know, he had a lot of carry.

2228
01:41:10,600 --> 01:41:13,280
Speaker 5: Back in those days. It was two backs in the

2229
01:41:13,320 --> 01:41:16,160
Speaker 5: backfield at the same time that both both carried the ball. Yeah,

2230
01:41:16,640 --> 01:41:18,560
Speaker 5: like Rocky Blyer and Franco Harris.

2231
01:41:19,720 --> 01:41:23,679
Speaker 2: Mercury Morris and Larry Zanka and they had Jim. Yeah,

2232
01:41:24,280 --> 01:41:29,000
Speaker 2: that was a good offense. Damien from kirk Island, first

2233
01:41:29,080 --> 01:41:34,559
Speaker 2: time listener, Uh, longtime listener, first time reaching out. I've

2234
01:41:34,560 --> 01:41:37,560
Speaker 2: been watching a lot of Patriots and Tom Brady documentaries

2235
01:41:37,560 --> 01:41:40,400
Speaker 2: over the years, and I heard the word intangibles being

2236
01:41:40,520 --> 01:41:43,360
Speaker 2: used to describe the hidden qualities that Brady possessed that

2237
01:41:43,520 --> 01:41:46,120
Speaker 2: made the guy such a killer both on and off

2238
01:41:46,160 --> 01:41:48,720
Speaker 2: the field. My question is, have you or any of

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01:41:48,760 --> 01:41:52,600
Speaker 2: the crew seen intangible qualities among the present group of

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Speaker 2: Patriots players and coaches which show potential for greatness that

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01:41:55,960 --> 01:41:58,640
Speaker 2: we as fans would not be able to observe in

2242
01:41:58,800 --> 01:42:02,439
Speaker 2: reports or see in the Forged in Foxborough documentaries, which,

2243
01:42:02,479 --> 01:42:05,519
Speaker 2: by the way, episode three drop last week. Go to

2244
01:42:05,600 --> 01:42:09,519
Speaker 2: YouTube watch it. Get ready for the season. It's awesome.

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01:42:10,720 --> 01:42:12,000
Speaker 2: What do you think, anybody that you.

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01:42:13,680 --> 01:42:17,360
Speaker 6: Just saying if you found a tangible and tangible that

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01:42:17,479 --> 01:42:18,479
Speaker 6: you could maybe point out.

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01:42:18,520 --> 01:42:19,360
Speaker 7: I don't know, I don't know.

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01:42:19,400 --> 01:42:21,200
Speaker 5: I'm not sure I can you know, but I understand

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Speaker 5: what his point is. Just give you the vibe?

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Speaker 7: I mean, did Brady give you guys the vibe? In

2252
01:42:25,920 --> 01:42:28,879
Speaker 7: two thousand when you're like two.

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01:42:28,760 --> 01:42:29,960
Speaker 2: Thousand, but.

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01:42:33,080 --> 01:42:33,519
Speaker 7: Vibe right.

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Speaker 5: I don't know if there's a guy that maybe.

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Speaker 6: I mean, Henderson looks like a stud, but that is tangible.

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01:42:42,040 --> 01:42:44,800
Speaker 6: He runs really fast and he just is active every

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01:42:44,840 --> 01:42:45,920
Speaker 6: time I've seen him play.

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Speaker 7: So I'm not I don't know.

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Speaker 6: I mean I would say, like ke On White has

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01:42:49,720 --> 01:42:52,080
Speaker 6: like looks like he has some intangibles, but I haven't

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01:42:52,120 --> 01:42:53,240
Speaker 6: seen yet.

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01:42:53,680 --> 01:42:55,200
Speaker 2: I mean, he looks like it all pro I mean

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01:42:55,360 --> 01:42:56,040
Speaker 2: just getting off.

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01:42:55,920 --> 01:42:58,320
Speaker 5: The bat in tangibles like kind of like what you

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01:42:59,479 --> 01:43:02,560
Speaker 5: how you would describe like what Jabrill Pepper's sort of

2267
01:43:02,640 --> 01:43:05,320
Speaker 5: getting the team all jacked up, you know, the defense

2268
01:43:05,439 --> 01:43:08,280
Speaker 5: ready to go, Like maybe he's not the best safety

2269
01:43:08,360 --> 01:43:11,679
Speaker 5: in football, but he's got some inspiration behind him. Those

2270
01:43:11,760 --> 01:43:12,439
Speaker 5: kinds of players.

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Speaker 2: I don't know I could.

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Speaker 7: I mean, I don't know if this applies, but I

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01:43:15,640 --> 01:43:17,040
Speaker 7: would just say I think the well.

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Speaker 2: How would you define intangible? Like what are if you

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01:43:19,960 --> 01:43:22,640
Speaker 2: had to list something considered intangible?

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01:43:22,720 --> 01:43:25,000
Speaker 7: What a certain energy that a guy brings to the

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01:43:25,040 --> 01:43:26,040
Speaker 7: building that you feel is.

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01:43:26,120 --> 01:43:28,800
Speaker 5: Leader the leadership quality to him, A guy who gets

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01:43:28,880 --> 01:43:31,600
Speaker 5: more out of his ability than the some you know,

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Speaker 5: kind of the some of the parts, like it's intangible,

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01:43:34,840 --> 01:43:36,439
Speaker 5: So it's kind of hard to define you guys.

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Speaker 6: I'll say Morgan Moses just to him, he like I

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01:43:42,680 --> 01:43:46,200
Speaker 6: said yesterday, he's very talking to everybody. He stops by

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01:43:46,240 --> 01:43:47,360
Speaker 6: the wide receivers.

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01:43:47,000 --> 01:43:47,880
Speaker 7: He's chatting them up.

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01:43:48,520 --> 01:43:50,280
Speaker 6: And the other guy that I think is an interesting

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01:43:50,360 --> 01:43:53,719
Speaker 6: intangible guy is Mac Hollins in that very confident.

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01:43:55,400 --> 01:43:58,280
Speaker 2: But I just I wonder how it's all going to translate.

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01:43:57,960 --> 01:44:00,920
Speaker 5: With I would maybe throw Roberts Laying into this mix,

2290
01:44:00,960 --> 01:44:02,800
Speaker 5: but I love you two picks make I think that's

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01:44:02,840 --> 01:44:04,920
Speaker 5: exactly how I'm I mean, I guess everybody thinks of

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01:44:05,080 --> 01:44:05,639
Speaker 5: that word.

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01:44:05,479 --> 01:44:07,200
Speaker 2: A little bit. That's the thing. And you're gonna yell

2294
01:44:07,200 --> 01:44:09,280
Speaker 2: at me, I won't yell, promise. I think when we

2295
01:44:09,400 --> 01:44:13,920
Speaker 2: talk about in comparisons, the word intangible is misused. It

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01:44:14,000 --> 01:44:16,559
Speaker 2: should be something it's hard to put a finger on. Yeah,

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01:44:16,880 --> 01:44:19,880
Speaker 2: But like you see the matchups and say, okay, intangibles

2298
01:44:19,960 --> 01:44:23,320
Speaker 2: coaching this way, whether those aren't intangible, those are tangible.

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01:44:23,560 --> 01:44:25,680
Speaker 2: You know, like you either have better coaching or you know.

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01:44:25,880 --> 01:44:28,880
Speaker 5: So I'm not I understand what you're saying. But like

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01:44:29,000 --> 01:44:34,320
Speaker 5: when they say like coaching, you can't necessarily identify why

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01:44:34,439 --> 01:44:37,400
Speaker 5: this guy is better in this situation than that guy.

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01:44:37,520 --> 01:44:40,439
Speaker 5: You just know he in general has been better in

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01:44:40,479 --> 01:44:44,200
Speaker 5: those situations. Okay, I thought weather, whether it's not like,

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01:44:45,240 --> 01:44:49,760
Speaker 5: well it's raining, the weather's a tangible it's this team

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01:44:49,800 --> 01:44:51,360
Speaker 5: has proven in the fact, it doesn't matter what the

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01:44:51,400 --> 01:44:53,960
Speaker 5: conditions are, like the Brady Patriots could beat you in

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01:44:54,000 --> 01:44:57,560
Speaker 5: any weather except for extreme heat. That was a scryptonite.

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01:44:58,040 --> 01:45:00,080
Speaker 2: That's the one. But like you know, but like a

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01:45:00,160 --> 01:45:02,720
Speaker 2: good leader, well that's tangible. Well no, it's really not.

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01:45:02,880 --> 01:45:05,559
Speaker 5: How like I think Morgan Moses is exactly the way

2312
01:45:05,640 --> 01:45:06,160
Speaker 5: you just said.

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01:45:06,200 --> 01:45:08,640
Speaker 2: We walked in this room, we said this is the

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01:45:08,720 --> 01:45:09,679
Speaker 2: time we would follow.

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01:45:09,800 --> 01:45:12,799
Speaker 5: It was a tangible to me, it was an intangible.

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01:45:12,880 --> 01:45:15,680
Speaker 2: Intangible is something I can't I know my finger on

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01:45:15,840 --> 01:45:17,400
Speaker 2: why this guy is a leader, Like.

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01:45:17,800 --> 01:45:20,519
Speaker 5: I understand what you're saying. Nobody, you're taking it too far? Now,

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01:45:20,600 --> 01:45:22,680
Speaker 5: I do I get it because I was struggling with

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01:45:23,479 --> 01:45:26,639
Speaker 5: I think it's an intangible quality, Like you can't where

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01:45:26,680 --> 01:45:29,040
Speaker 5: do you put it? Like, well, how much is that worth? Yeah,

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01:45:29,360 --> 01:45:33,040
Speaker 5: that's it's it's intangible. You can't quantify it. The guy's

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01:45:33,040 --> 01:45:35,360
Speaker 5: a good leader. Does that really help? He had the

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01:45:35,439 --> 01:45:36,880
Speaker 5: right thing to say. I don't know if it was

2325
01:45:36,920 --> 01:45:38,559
Speaker 5: the right thing to say. It seemed like the right

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01:45:38,600 --> 01:45:39,000
Speaker 5: thing to say.

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01:45:39,040 --> 01:45:40,160
Speaker 2: Where do I put that in it?

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01:45:40,400 --> 01:45:42,559
Speaker 6: I feel it's intangible. We're gonna get into talk about

2329
01:45:42,640 --> 01:45:44,800
Speaker 6: aura because that's a big thing. The kids and I

2330
01:45:44,840 --> 01:45:48,760
Speaker 6: feel it. They like it, didn't risen. Aura is an intangible, right.

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01:45:49,320 --> 01:45:50,840
Speaker 7: I don't know, he's just got he's got an r

2332
01:45:50,880 --> 01:45:53,640
Speaker 7: about him. I'd say that I get some of the

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01:45:53,720 --> 01:45:54,080
Speaker 7: other ones.

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01:45:54,160 --> 01:45:56,240
Speaker 5: I get the point, but I think a lot of

2335
01:45:56,280 --> 01:45:58,240
Speaker 5: that stuff would qualify as intangible.

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01:45:58,479 --> 01:45:59,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I know what, I know what.

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01:45:59,800 --> 01:46:03,760
Speaker 7: You Morgan moses like, I just his presence when he

2338
01:46:03,800 --> 01:46:05,639
Speaker 7: walked in, you know, I mean.

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01:46:05,600 --> 01:46:05,840
Speaker 10: It was.

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01:46:07,400 --> 01:46:08,080
Speaker 5: What does that worth?

2341
01:46:09,040 --> 01:46:09,639
Speaker 2: What does that worth?

2342
01:46:09,640 --> 01:46:11,320
Speaker 5: If it's tangible, there's a quality to it, there's a

2343
01:46:11,360 --> 01:46:14,400
Speaker 5: quantity to it. Is like you can't you can't put

2344
01:46:14,400 --> 01:46:16,960
Speaker 5: your finger on just that guy's a guy who's a leader.

2345
01:46:17,280 --> 01:46:18,200
Speaker 5: That guy's quiet.

2346
01:46:18,800 --> 01:46:19,400
Speaker 2: You can see it.

2347
01:46:19,520 --> 01:46:21,559
Speaker 5: There's a difference. But I don't know what we either

2348
01:46:21,600 --> 01:46:23,280
Speaker 5: one is. Does that mean that one guy is worth

2349
01:46:23,360 --> 01:46:26,160
Speaker 5: more than the other? No, Like, let's say two guys

2350
01:46:26,200 --> 01:46:29,360
Speaker 5: of the exact same ability. One guy has the leadership

2351
01:46:29,439 --> 01:46:31,680
Speaker 5: quality and one guy is very quiet. One guy is

2352
01:46:31,720 --> 01:46:35,040
Speaker 5: Kyle Duger. One guy's Morgan Moses, but the same exact talent.

2353
01:46:37,439 --> 01:46:41,479
Speaker 5: It's intangible. I don't know who's worth more, but one

2354
01:46:41,560 --> 01:46:44,080
Speaker 5: guy has a leadership to him. That's, you know, bring

2355
01:46:44,160 --> 01:46:49,280
Speaker 5: in some intangible value. Good question, right, it is a

2356
01:46:49,320 --> 01:46:51,439
Speaker 5: good question. But I don't know. I think Might came

2357
01:46:51,520 --> 01:46:55,040
Speaker 5: up with two good examples of Morgan Moses and Mac Collins.

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01:46:54,880 --> 01:46:56,760
Speaker 6: And you and you brought up Splaine too, and that's,

2359
01:46:56,920 --> 01:46:59,720
Speaker 6: you know, three guys that you're hoping are going to

2360
01:46:59,760 --> 01:47:00,880
Speaker 6: help change the culture.

2361
01:47:00,960 --> 01:47:03,920
Speaker 5: And where's Evan. He's going to come back in practice now,

2362
01:47:04,120 --> 01:47:06,040
Speaker 5: I know, but he's supposed.

2363
01:47:05,720 --> 01:47:06,160
Speaker 2: To come back.

2364
01:47:06,400 --> 01:47:09,920
Speaker 7: He will, but they're probably I thought they only could.

2365
01:47:09,800 --> 01:47:11,720
Speaker 5: Watch a certain amounts the other day. They were out

2366
01:47:11,760 --> 01:47:13,000
Speaker 5: there for almost twenty What is.

2367
01:47:13,000 --> 01:47:17,280
Speaker 2: He doing now? No, he's conferring with Barth and Taylor Kyles, No,

2368
01:47:17,760 --> 01:47:18,800
Speaker 2: I comparing notes.

2369
01:47:18,920 --> 01:47:20,800
Speaker 7: Promise you, Fred, as soon as Evan is able to

2370
01:47:20,880 --> 01:47:22,320
Speaker 7: be back in here, I'm sure you will.

2371
01:47:22,479 --> 01:47:25,280
Speaker 5: Okay, But you need that practice update.

2372
01:47:25,360 --> 01:47:29,160
Speaker 2: Huh, yeah, everybody does. We need it from eyes that

2373
01:47:29,360 --> 01:47:34,559
Speaker 2: saw it. Todd and Garner writes in so glad, I'm

2374
01:47:34,640 --> 01:47:37,639
Speaker 2: back home from a holiday in Minneapolis. Now I get

2375
01:47:37,720 --> 01:47:42,599
Speaker 2: to listen to you guys live. What's this now? Oh, okay,

2376
01:47:42,800 --> 01:47:45,439
Speaker 2: we'll read that in a second. I really feel that

2377
01:47:45,520 --> 01:47:47,839
Speaker 2: the game will come down to two basic things, mistakes

2378
01:47:47,880 --> 01:47:51,280
Speaker 2: and coaching. Patriots have more coaching talent and if they

2379
01:47:51,320 --> 01:47:55,000
Speaker 2: can minimize mistakes, turnovers and penalties, I absolutely believe that

2380
01:47:55,040 --> 01:47:58,040
Speaker 2: our guys will win thirty five to twenty three, with

2381
01:47:58,160 --> 01:47:59,600
Speaker 2: the Raiders getting a junktie like.

2382
01:47:59,800 --> 01:48:00,200
Speaker 5: Just a greed.

2383
01:48:00,479 --> 01:48:02,640
Speaker 2: I disagree too. I don't know if the Patriots have

2384
01:48:02,680 --> 01:48:05,680
Speaker 2: a coaching edge in this game. Pete Carroll is one

2385
01:48:05,720 --> 01:48:08,800
Speaker 2: of the best coaches in the league. And now we

2386
01:48:08,880 --> 01:48:12,439
Speaker 2: don't know about Chip Kelly, but Patrick Graham has been.

2387
01:48:12,360 --> 01:48:15,960
Speaker 5: A going When talking about coaching, it's Pete Carroll and

2388
01:48:16,040 --> 01:48:18,679
Speaker 5: Mike Grabel and Pete Carroll's resume is better than Mike grabeles.

2389
01:48:19,400 --> 01:48:19,599
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2390
01:48:20,200 --> 01:48:22,040
Speaker 5: He Carroll's a Hall of Fame coach. I don't know

2391
01:48:22,080 --> 01:48:23,320
Speaker 5: if he'll end up in the Hall of Fame, but

2392
01:48:23,400 --> 01:48:25,320
Speaker 5: he has a Hall of fame resume. Yeah, we'll see

2393
01:48:25,360 --> 01:48:27,400
Speaker 5: what Mike Rabel ends up being. He says, what you're six,

2394
01:48:27,920 --> 01:48:29,040
Speaker 5: You're seven, right?

2395
01:48:29,360 --> 01:48:29,640
Speaker 7: I don't know.

2396
01:48:29,800 --> 01:48:32,240
Speaker 2: Mike Carroll has won a super Bowl in the NFL.

2397
01:48:32,240 --> 01:48:33,639
Speaker 7: Like am I crazy?

2398
01:48:33,760 --> 01:48:35,479
Speaker 6: I just think like, as a player, if I have

2399
01:48:35,600 --> 01:48:38,559
Speaker 6: a young guy like Mike Rabel coming in, I'm like, yes,

2400
01:48:38,720 --> 01:48:40,040
Speaker 6: this is a team I want to be part of.

2401
01:48:40,120 --> 01:48:43,679
Speaker 7: If I'm the Raiders and I had Josh McDaniels.

2402
01:48:43,080 --> 01:48:45,120
Speaker 6: And then he's gone, and then you know, we're smoking

2403
01:48:45,160 --> 01:48:48,519
Speaker 6: cigars with Antonio Antonio Peers and it's a party. And

2404
01:48:48,640 --> 01:48:51,200
Speaker 6: now they bring in the oldest coach in the whole league,

2405
01:48:51,280 --> 01:48:54,000
Speaker 6: and I'm like, like, is this are we on another jack.

2406
01:48:53,960 --> 01:48:55,840
Speaker 5: To grossly underestimating Pete Carroll?

2407
01:48:55,960 --> 01:49:00,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, saying but to me as a player like that in.

2408
01:49:00,200 --> 01:49:02,560
Speaker 5: There, because when Pete Carroll left here, I was no

2409
01:49:02,760 --> 01:49:05,360
Speaker 5: huge fan of his coaching. I was a really big

2410
01:49:05,439 --> 01:49:08,360
Speaker 5: fan of the person. But I think he's developed into

2411
01:49:08,360 --> 01:49:10,720
Speaker 5: a really good coach. I think he's a good mix

2412
01:49:10,840 --> 01:49:14,559
Speaker 5: of the hard line and player coach, which I think

2413
01:49:14,640 --> 01:49:17,280
Speaker 5: Vrabel is trying to get. Rabel's players in Tennessee did

2414
01:49:17,320 --> 01:49:19,479
Speaker 5: not love him. Yeah, I think he's trying to sort

2415
01:49:19,520 --> 01:49:22,479
Speaker 5: of change that mentality a little bit here. I think

2416
01:49:22,520 --> 01:49:23,000
Speaker 5: there's a lot.

2417
01:49:23,120 --> 01:49:24,760
Speaker 6: I didn't mean that in any way a shot at

2418
01:49:24,800 --> 01:49:27,040
Speaker 6: Pete Carroll. I just mean it's like a player looking

2419
01:49:27,080 --> 01:49:28,680
Speaker 6: at where's our organization going.

2420
01:49:28,840 --> 01:49:31,200
Speaker 2: Let me tell you something. Pete Carroll's practices are as

2421
01:49:31,240 --> 01:49:33,519
Speaker 2: competitive as they can get in the NFL, and he

2422
01:49:33,600 --> 01:49:35,720
Speaker 2: reads it one of the hardest in the league. That's what.

2423
01:49:35,800 --> 01:49:37,519
Speaker 6: Maybe I'm wrong, but I mean, would you feel the

2424
01:49:37,520 --> 01:49:39,280
Speaker 6: same about Bill if Bill went to another NFL.

2425
01:49:39,320 --> 01:49:41,200
Speaker 5: I wouldn't want any part I've ever played for Bill,

2426
01:49:42,520 --> 01:49:44,120
Speaker 5: but just for that. But I would love to play

2427
01:49:44,160 --> 01:49:46,720
Speaker 5: for Pete Carroll. The way the players talk about it,

2428
01:49:46,800 --> 01:49:49,599
Speaker 5: I would love to play for Andy Reid. I totally

2429
01:49:49,680 --> 01:49:52,400
Speaker 5: hear it, and I think they're I don't know what

2430
01:49:52,600 --> 01:49:56,040
Speaker 5: the mentality you're talking about. If I was on the Patriots,

2431
01:49:56,040 --> 01:49:58,320
Speaker 5: i'd feel better because my coach potentially could be here

2432
01:49:58,400 --> 01:50:00,599
Speaker 5: for a while. I just feel like, but if it works,

2433
01:50:00,640 --> 01:50:02,080
Speaker 5: he's only going to be there another couple of years.

2434
01:50:02,360 --> 01:50:03,360
Speaker 2: That's what you're saying.

2435
01:50:03,720 --> 01:50:05,680
Speaker 7: Thank you, Thank you for boiling it down to the

2436
01:50:05,720 --> 01:50:06,680
Speaker 7: way I mean.

2437
01:50:06,840 --> 01:50:09,200
Speaker 5: I think that's inarguable. And he's the oldest coach in football,

2438
01:50:09,400 --> 01:50:11,439
Speaker 5: right right. I don't know how you can have a

2439
01:50:11,560 --> 01:50:15,200
Speaker 5: logical argument to say Carol's not on the back nine,

2440
01:50:15,479 --> 01:50:16,680
Speaker 5: right right, But I.

2441
01:50:16,760 --> 01:50:18,840
Speaker 6: Agree with your point of Like, I mean, for me

2442
01:50:19,240 --> 01:50:21,120
Speaker 6: liking to play for kind of those kind of coaches

2443
01:50:21,200 --> 01:50:24,120
Speaker 6: like absolutely like and I can pay.

2444
01:50:24,680 --> 01:50:24,880
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2445
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Speaker 14: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: You can flex on us when you don't want to

2457
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Speaker 5: hear it.

2458
01:51:04,560 --> 01:51:05,880
Speaker 7: I don't want to hear it. If your picks are.

2459
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Speaker 5: Better than mine, Mike's going to have a big year issue.

2460
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Speaker 5: I can, I can. I can feel it. Mike's gonna

2461
01:51:09,479 --> 01:51:10,439
Speaker 5: have a feel for the league.

2462
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Speaker 7: I'm want to study the tape. I'm gonna grind the tape.

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Speaker 2: A little more.

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Speaker 5: Grind the rest of the grind grind it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, So come in.

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Speaker 5: I know they had practice the other day. They were

2467
01:51:22,920 --> 01:51:29,000
Speaker 5: out there for about twenty minutes. So if it's one thirty,

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Speaker 5: it's only fifty.

2469
01:51:30,080 --> 01:51:31,000
Speaker 2: Started at one thirty.

2470
01:51:31,120 --> 01:51:33,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, and Mike just went to the locker room for

2471
01:51:33,400 --> 01:51:35,799
Speaker 5: a little while and then he came in here. I know, practice,

2472
01:51:36,160 --> 01:51:38,720
Speaker 5: the practice window was scheduled to start at one.

2473
01:51:38,840 --> 01:51:40,800
Speaker 2: Evan doesn't actually move that fast, so.

2474
01:51:41,000 --> 01:51:43,720
Speaker 5: No, you know, he's he's sort of like a three

2475
01:51:43,800 --> 01:51:44,720
Speaker 5: toed sloth, isn't it.

2476
01:51:44,840 --> 01:51:46,799
Speaker 2: He kind of wattles around.

2477
01:51:48,240 --> 01:51:51,439
Speaker 5: I was stunned today when Mike and I were in

2478
01:51:51,520 --> 01:51:55,200
Speaker 5: the bullpen chatting and in walks evident like nine thirty,

2479
01:51:55,320 --> 01:51:55,600
Speaker 5: It's like.

2480
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Speaker 7: Whoa, Like, where's that coming?

2481
01:51:58,400 --> 01:51:58,559
Speaker 2: One?

2482
01:51:58,560 --> 01:52:00,920
Speaker 5: Because he had a because he had a ten catch

2483
01:52:01,000 --> 01:52:05,000
Speaker 5: twenty two engagements, right Dana Virginia in Michigan.

2484
01:52:05,240 --> 01:52:08,040
Speaker 2: Just to keep the runoff run of off season nonsense

2485
01:52:08,120 --> 01:52:11,200
Speaker 2: subject going even though it's football Wednesday just brought up

2486
01:52:11,240 --> 01:52:13,880
Speaker 2: the old songs being brought back as jingles for medications.

2487
01:52:14,479 --> 01:52:17,160
Speaker 2: As a regular watcher of Jeopardy, I see a steady

2488
01:52:17,160 --> 01:52:20,439
Speaker 2: string of commercials for medications, even of even each of

2489
01:52:20,520 --> 01:52:24,280
Speaker 2: those medications has a name like a bad Hand and scrabble.

2490
01:52:24,920 --> 01:52:27,360
Speaker 2: They all have seven letters, one vowel usually a high

2491
01:52:27,400 --> 01:52:30,320
Speaker 2: point value but difficult to use letter like k or z.

2492
01:52:31,080 --> 01:52:34,240
Speaker 2: So it's so inconsistent that almost seems like an industry rule.

2493
01:52:34,320 --> 01:52:37,519
Speaker 2: We know PU nation has an expert, is an expert

2494
01:52:37,560 --> 01:52:40,320
Speaker 2: on anyone? Does anyone know the answer to this admittedly

2495
01:52:40,479 --> 01:52:44,680
Speaker 2: very niche question, why do drugs get the names of

2496
01:52:44,720 --> 01:52:45,120
Speaker 2: the Yeah?

2497
01:52:45,240 --> 01:52:46,519
Speaker 5: He never is that the question?

2498
01:52:46,640 --> 01:52:46,920
Speaker 2: I guess?

2499
01:52:46,960 --> 01:52:47,000
Speaker 3: So?

2500
01:52:47,200 --> 01:52:47,759
Speaker 7: Yeah, govy.

2501
01:52:48,240 --> 01:52:50,000
Speaker 2: I think I think they have to come up with

2502
01:52:50,080 --> 01:52:51,679
Speaker 2: a word that's never been used before.

2503
01:52:51,800 --> 01:52:53,240
Speaker 7: Ye, And honestly, don't.

2504
01:52:53,680 --> 01:52:55,439
Speaker 6: Are there people out there that were, like, I got

2505
01:52:55,520 --> 01:52:58,160
Speaker 6: moderate to severe plaxoriasis and this pill looks like it

2506
01:52:58,280 --> 01:52:59,760
Speaker 6: might help what I have. I'm gonna go ask my

2507
01:52:59,840 --> 01:53:01,720
Speaker 6: doctor about it, because isn't that what these whole ads

2508
01:53:01,760 --> 01:53:04,200
Speaker 6: are for. You're trying to target people, Oh, with these conditions,

2509
01:53:04,240 --> 01:53:07,080
Speaker 6: So go to their doctor, Like, gone to your doctor.

2510
01:53:06,880 --> 01:53:08,160
Speaker 7: And be like, so tell me about what we go

2511
01:53:08,280 --> 01:53:09,240
Speaker 7: v Like, what's up with this?

2512
01:53:09,360 --> 01:53:09,400
Speaker 3: Like?

2513
01:53:09,479 --> 01:53:10,040
Speaker 7: Can you help me?

2514
01:53:10,200 --> 01:53:11,040
Speaker 3: Right? Well?

2515
01:53:12,800 --> 01:53:15,400
Speaker 2: I don't tell which one it is, But this is

2516
01:53:15,439 --> 01:53:17,800
Speaker 2: an interesting thing that happened over the last couple of years.

2517
01:53:17,840 --> 01:53:21,320
Speaker 2: It was it's one of these pharmaceutical things. And they

2518
01:53:21,400 --> 01:53:25,920
Speaker 2: had this really really catchy theme song, so catchy in fact,

2519
01:53:26,640 --> 01:53:31,360
Speaker 2: that people sued them and they had to change the

2520
01:53:31,600 --> 01:53:34,800
Speaker 2: song like enough so that it didn't sound like the

2521
01:53:34,880 --> 01:53:38,599
Speaker 2: one before. Same words everything, but it was just changed enough,

2522
01:53:39,120 --> 01:53:42,559
Speaker 2: so I guess it wasn't as catchy, and I forget

2523
01:53:42,600 --> 01:53:43,479
Speaker 2: that you can.

2524
01:53:43,439 --> 01:53:45,040
Speaker 6: Google it right, So people are like, I don't even

2525
01:53:45,080 --> 01:53:47,600
Speaker 6: have plackoriasis, but I want to get on just I

2526
01:53:47,680 --> 01:53:48,560
Speaker 6: just want to try it.

2527
01:53:48,640 --> 01:53:50,360
Speaker 7: It just looks like they're living a great life, and

2528
01:53:50,400 --> 01:53:53,439
Speaker 7: I want that life. Yeah, this is Matt Morrel handing

2529
01:53:53,479 --> 01:53:53,800
Speaker 7: me something.

2530
01:53:54,040 --> 01:53:56,559
Speaker 6: Drug names must be unique and distinguishable from other medications

2531
01:53:56,600 --> 01:53:58,719
Speaker 6: to avoid confusion and potential medical errors.

2532
01:53:58,840 --> 01:54:03,920
Speaker 2: Okay, we don't the market. Let's get back to little football.

2533
01:54:04,000 --> 01:54:07,080
Speaker 2: Steve writes in why do people get upset with Drake

2534
01:54:07,160 --> 01:54:12,200
Speaker 2: May for improvising and practicing his improvation improvisational skills during play?

2535
01:54:12,600 --> 01:54:15,360
Speaker 2: But no one seems to care? But no one seems

2536
01:54:15,400 --> 01:54:17,799
Speaker 2: to care when people like Josh Allen or Patrick Mahomes

2537
01:54:17,880 --> 01:54:21,280
Speaker 2: do it. I don't know. I understand that those folks

2538
01:54:21,320 --> 01:54:23,360
Speaker 2: are more developed in the league, but you don't get

2539
01:54:23,439 --> 01:54:26,400
Speaker 2: there by not trying. No one huffed and puffed when

2540
01:54:26,479 --> 01:54:30,360
Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes would try and try again and again during college.

2541
01:54:32,000 --> 01:54:34,560
Speaker 5: I just don't. I think I talk about arguing, talk

2542
01:54:34,600 --> 01:54:35,840
Speaker 5: about arguing against yourself.

2543
01:54:35,840 --> 01:54:37,320
Speaker 2: I think fans want him to do it more.

2544
01:54:37,680 --> 01:54:41,680
Speaker 5: Who is he arguing with, Yeah, Drake May's greatest strength

2545
01:54:41,800 --> 01:54:45,240
Speaker 5: is his mobility and his ability to make plays off platform.

2546
01:54:45,880 --> 01:54:47,040
Speaker 5: That's his best asset.

2547
01:54:47,240 --> 01:54:47,880
Speaker 2: Launched the ball.

2548
01:54:48,000 --> 01:54:51,000
Speaker 5: Now we're trying to figure out a way to avoid

2549
01:54:51,040 --> 01:54:54,560
Speaker 5: the mistakes when doing so, or run it. By the way,

2550
01:54:55,120 --> 01:54:58,520
Speaker 5: I know that the email says the opposite. Josh Allen

2551
01:54:58,720 --> 01:55:02,080
Speaker 5: dealt with constantly early in his career. Right right, is

2552
01:55:02,120 --> 01:55:04,240
Speaker 5: this guy ever gonna get it? He's always thrown into

2553
01:55:04,280 --> 01:55:06,560
Speaker 5: triple coverage. He that thinks he could do everything. He's

2554
01:55:06,600 --> 01:55:10,720
Speaker 5: Superman out there, like yeah, right, right, Then all of

2555
01:55:10,760 --> 01:55:12,560
Speaker 5: a sudden you tone down the mistakes, but yet you're

2556
01:55:12,600 --> 01:55:14,280
Speaker 5: still making the plays and you become a star.

2557
01:55:15,440 --> 01:55:16,320
Speaker 2: That's what you got to do.

2558
01:55:17,600 --> 01:55:21,280
Speaker 5: But I don't think anybody criticizes Drake May because he

2559
01:55:21,320 --> 01:55:21,680
Speaker 5: can run.

2560
01:55:22,360 --> 01:55:24,240
Speaker 6: No, I just you know, you want to make sure

2561
01:55:24,280 --> 01:55:26,560
Speaker 6: he's doing it within the structure of the offense and

2562
01:55:26,680 --> 01:55:28,000
Speaker 6: not just tucking and running the side.

2563
01:55:28,240 --> 01:55:30,520
Speaker 5: Don't change hands with the ball as you're getting sacked

2564
01:55:30,520 --> 01:55:32,800
Speaker 5: and fumble. Yeah, so that's what he got criticized for.

2565
01:55:33,040 --> 01:55:34,880
Speaker 5: Not bet he tried to scramble out of the pocket.

2566
01:55:35,080 --> 01:55:37,560
Speaker 2: We didn't want to step on Evan's toes. But like,

2567
01:55:38,800 --> 01:55:40,600
Speaker 2: since he's probably not gonna make it, what do we

2568
01:55:40,720 --> 01:55:41,840
Speaker 2: know from practice from the.

2569
01:55:42,240 --> 01:55:45,640
Speaker 6: X there's been nothing yet, really complete radio silence from

2570
01:55:45,880 --> 01:55:47,440
Speaker 6: the entire media brigade right now.

2571
01:55:47,600 --> 01:55:51,480
Speaker 7: Wow, it did seem furious. Look at this.

2572
01:55:51,600 --> 01:55:53,080
Speaker 2: A few minutes left, he's gonna.

2573
01:55:52,880 --> 01:55:54,960
Speaker 7: Have to hollery, probably not even enough time to play

2574
01:55:55,000 --> 01:55:55,360
Speaker 7: his song.

2575
01:55:55,600 --> 01:56:00,960
Speaker 5: Wow has been shot?

2576
01:56:04,520 --> 01:56:08,240
Speaker 7: Practice and quit?

2577
01:56:08,480 --> 01:56:08,720
Speaker 3: Evan.

2578
01:56:08,800 --> 01:56:11,840
Speaker 2: Why why the delay? First off, there's no delay, this

2579
01:56:12,040 --> 01:56:14,680
Speaker 2: was this is the timing. So well, how long did

2580
01:56:14,760 --> 01:56:15,640
Speaker 2: practice go for it?

2581
01:56:16,440 --> 01:56:21,320
Speaker 19: Well, we were out there, got out there about one Yeah,

2582
01:56:21,400 --> 01:56:26,400
Speaker 19: that's until they actually let the scribes into the practice.

2583
01:56:26,040 --> 01:56:26,800
Speaker 2: Hence the delay.

2584
01:56:27,200 --> 01:56:32,320
Speaker 19: Current Yes, yes, okay, but no no real surprises. Christian

2585
01:56:32,320 --> 01:56:35,720
Speaker 19: Gonzalez the only player not spotted that practice as.

2586
01:56:35,800 --> 01:56:38,520
Speaker 2: So he wasn't even there on the side, not yet.

2587
01:56:38,840 --> 01:56:40,080
Speaker 2: We did see him in the locker room.

2588
01:56:40,120 --> 01:56:42,160
Speaker 19: He was walking around the locker room, so I would

2589
01:56:42,160 --> 01:56:44,320
Speaker 19: assume that he probably will get out there eventually and

2590
01:56:44,640 --> 01:56:48,520
Speaker 19: to observe, but not dressed for practice.

2591
01:56:48,200 --> 01:56:51,000
Speaker 2: Not participating. Okay, So what else do we got?

2592
01:56:51,920 --> 01:56:52,240
Speaker 5: That's it?

2593
01:56:52,440 --> 01:56:55,200
Speaker 19: Honestly, it's a you know, pretty a.

2594
01:56:55,240 --> 01:56:57,960
Speaker 2: Lot of anticipation for just that. It's all I got.

2595
01:56:58,320 --> 01:57:00,680
Speaker 5: We're building it up something up.

2596
01:57:00,680 --> 01:57:02,200
Speaker 7: At least it's pretty mood.

2597
01:57:02,520 --> 01:57:04,440
Speaker 19: Yeah, we did to get you know, it was very

2598
01:57:04,560 --> 01:57:07,360
Speaker 19: nice out today, very great weather, and so some people

2599
01:57:07,480 --> 01:57:10,440
Speaker 19: were saying, oh, you know, we'll see who's still here

2600
01:57:10,560 --> 01:57:13,160
Speaker 19: when it's snowing and raining in December and January.

2601
01:57:14,240 --> 01:57:16,280
Speaker 2: And I was like, we'll still be here. I mean, hey,

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01:57:16,560 --> 01:57:18,800
Speaker 2: don't don't worry about that. Is it a large contingent.

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Speaker 2: It was a large contingent they're giving.

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Speaker 19: They're giving Drake and Stefan Diggs after practice and like

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01:57:27,000 --> 01:57:30,280
Speaker 19: Rabel talking this morning. So a lot of press, a

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Speaker 19: lot of media.

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Speaker 2: Big day, Big day, excited, people are excited for a buzz.

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Speaker 2: There's a buzz.

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Speaker 19: I think people are ready to actually discuss a real

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Speaker 19: football game and stop talking about you know, hypotheticals like

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Speaker 19: the last forty minutes but.

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Speaker 2: And you know all that stuff.

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Speaker 19: I think we're ready to get to the actual, the

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Speaker 19: actual games.

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Speaker 2: Okay, here's exciting.

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Speaker 5: I'm looking forward to having a game to discuss next week.

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Speaker 5: You know, the game that was actually played that counts right.

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Speaker 2: All right, Well, I'm supposed to read this last one.

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Speaker 2: Let's hear it for the team. Bob's discount furniture just

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Speaker 2: open it's two hundred store and you can join in

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01:58:09,600 --> 01:58:12,320
Speaker 2: on the celebration. Make your way to your nearest store

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Speaker 2: to shop the latest styles like the Phantom Power reclining

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01:58:15,840 --> 01:58:19,160
Speaker 2: sofa made for kicking back on game day, the Elm

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01:58:19,400 --> 01:58:22,600
Speaker 2: dining set made with real marble that's sure to impress

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01:58:22,760 --> 01:58:26,200
Speaker 2: the home team, and the stylish Calvin Bedroom designed to

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Speaker 2: help you dream up your next tailgating party. Plus, you

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01:58:29,160 --> 01:58:32,880
Speaker 2: can enjoy free treats, limited edition stickers, and more surprises

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01:58:32,960 --> 01:58:35,520
Speaker 2: this Labor Day weekend, so stop in and check out

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Speaker 2: the winning lineup at Bob's Discount Furniture, the official furniture

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Speaker 2: store of the New England Patriots, and of course bud

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Speaker 2: Light Easy to Drink, easy to enjoy, bud Light, the

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Speaker 2: official beer sponsor of the New England Patriots. Well, Evan,

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Speaker 2: we hope that in future, coming back from practice, it's

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Speaker 2: a little bit more insightful, more information.

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Speaker 5: Work on that way, Yeah, I will work on it.

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Speaker 2: I know you had two hours with Barth and you're

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Speaker 2: all extende ap All right, that's it for this edition.

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Speaker 2: We're back tomorrow our third show of the Hurry. That's

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Speaker 2: what we do all the time, So picks tomorrow don't

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Speaker 2: miss it.

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Speaker 7: Hey, this is Evan.

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01:59:19,440 --> 01:59:20,640
Speaker 2: Thanks for tuning in to the show.

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Speaker 18: If you really want to help us, make sure to

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01:59:22,920 --> 01:59:26,320
Speaker 18: like us on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or wherever you get

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01:59:26,400 --> 01:59:28,680
Speaker 18: your podcasts. Also make sure to fall on the New

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01:59:28,720 --> 01:59:31,680
Speaker 18: England Patriots YouTube channel see this show and everything else

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01:59:31,760 --> 01:59:32,959
Speaker 18: we do here at the Patriots.

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Speaker 4: Thanks a lot