1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:05,120 Speaker 1: All right, second hour Clay and Buck gets going right now, 2 00:00:05,320 --> 00:00:08,160 Speaker 1: looking forward to diving into it all with you and 3 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:09,160 Speaker 1: want to take some of your calls. 4 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:11,000 Speaker 2: Sorry, last hour we got a little fired up and 5 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:12,720 Speaker 2: we didn't get the calls we will at the end 6 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 2: of this hour. 7 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:16,599 Speaker 1: Eight hundred two, eight two to eight, eight to two. 8 00:00:17,560 --> 00:00:21,599 Speaker 1: Clay and I both watched the Obama speeches last night, 9 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 1: looking at how things are going at this DNC. I 10 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 1: would say pretty much what we expected in every respect. 11 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 1: I think that if they can get through the DNC 12 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:38,200 Speaker 1: without more numbers showing Kamala weakness, that should be considered 13 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 1: a win for them. I think the Kamala speech is 14 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 1: a problem. The more people that watch it, the worse 15 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 1: it is for Democrats. She just does not come across well. 16 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:52,639 Speaker 1: And the comparison to the Obama's will and to other speakers, 17 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 1: I might add, will not be favorable for Kamala Harris. 18 00:00:56,200 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 1: I think that's just obvious. I don't even think Democrats 19 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 1: could try to agree with that, or maybe they would, 20 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 1: because they'll say anything. But there were a few moments 21 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:07,280 Speaker 1: last night as well, you know, with the Obamas, there 22 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 1: was a lot of you know, how do. 23 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 2: I put this? 24 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 1: It was just a lot of the most broad kind 25 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 1: of bromides about America or the broadest problem It was, 26 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 1: you know, oh. 27 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:27,040 Speaker 3: You know, we know that we can overcome any obstacle, 28 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:28,959 Speaker 3: and we you know this is and I understand this 29 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 3: political rhetoric everyone says this kind of stuff where a 30 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 3: lot of people say this kind of stuff. Fine, but 31 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:35,919 Speaker 3: there were also some moments that I think brought into 32 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:41,400 Speaker 3: real contrast where the Democrat Party is today and where 33 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 3: the Republican Party is and specifically what Trump, uh and 34 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 3: MAGA currently represents versus what Kamala Harris would continue with 35 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 3: Joe Biden's presidency. I mean, I think that the narrative, 36 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 3: the through line here is quite clear. You have two 37 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 3: Obama presidencies and then a Biden presidency, and now they 38 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 3: want to Harris presidency, which is in essence, on a 39 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 3: policy level, clay the fourth term of Obama is it's 40 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 3: not Obama's fourth term, but I think it would be 41 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:12,920 Speaker 3: a clear continuation and people could say, well, yeah, of 42 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:13,920 Speaker 3: course they're Democrats. 43 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:14,080 Speaker 4: Know. 44 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 1: Obama took the Democrat Party in a different direction from 45 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 1: certainly what John Carey and Bill Clinton and others before 46 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:26,240 Speaker 1: him had done or wanted to do and a moment 47 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 1: that I thought really showed. 48 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 2: You know, we talked yesterday. 49 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:33,079 Speaker 1: They've got a giant inflatable iud, They've got women dressed 50 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 1: as abortion pills. They trot out this guy, Tim Walls. 51 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 2: Do you guys know that sometimes he wears camo? 52 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:41,640 Speaker 5: Oh man, isn't it? 53 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 2: Clay just isn't a side. It's so Look, I grew 54 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 2: up in Manhattan. 55 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:48,359 Speaker 1: I happen to have a dad who likes guns and hunting, 56 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 1: and so I was exposed to that. But most people 57 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 1: in Manhattan, they only wear camo, you know, as a 58 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 1: fashion statement. 59 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:56,800 Speaker 3: You're from Tennessee, people wear it. But just that the 60 00:02:56,840 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 3: analysis of the coastal. 61 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 6: Media folks is, oh Man, just by wearing camo, the 62 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 6: Harris Walls ticket has reclaimed their their rural roots are 63 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 6: just like what you got like it's so condescending, it 64 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 6: really is. 65 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:12,799 Speaker 2: Oh they wore. 66 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 5: A camo hats. I'm gonna vote for him now. Yeah. 67 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:19,800 Speaker 7: Well, in particular because I don't even blink when I 68 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:22,960 Speaker 7: see people in camo. It's not even where I live 69 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 7: in Tennessee. It's not even something that remotely registers to 70 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:31,400 Speaker 7: me as some sort of cultural signpost. When I see 71 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 7: someone walking around in camo. It just so the idea 72 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 7: that there would be people who would see that and 73 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 7: think to themselves, Oh, I wasn't sure how I was 74 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 7: going to vote beforehand, but now I feel so seen 75 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 7: by the guy from San Francisco. 76 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 2: Oh, I can trust them. 77 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 1: They're not a bunch of like gender obsessed weirdos who 78 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 1: want a wide open border. 79 00:03:57,160 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 2: They wear camo hats. 80 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 1: Tim Walls is to me the perfect exemplar or what 81 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 1: I'm trying to get at here is the more we 82 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 1: see of what the Democrats want, just put aside the 83 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 1: flowery rhetoric. Right, Tim Walls, Clay is supposed to be there, 84 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 1: you know, kind. 85 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 3: Of burly dad next door who wears Carhart and a 86 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:20,360 Speaker 3: camo hat. This guy has the ideology of a Wesleyan 87 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:22,040 Speaker 3: gender studies professor. 88 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 2: And that's what so, you know, that's what I think. 89 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 3: It is so one just gross that Democrats try to 90 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:30,600 Speaker 3: throw people off like. 91 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:31,599 Speaker 2: You can trust Tim Walls. 92 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:35,920 Speaker 1: Tim Walls actually would have the He sounds like somebody 93 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:38,599 Speaker 1: that would have been teaching at a public school in 94 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:42,040 Speaker 1: Manhattan in terms of his beliefs, meaning very left wing. 95 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:45,839 Speaker 1: The the cultural accoutrement, the fact that you know, Tim 96 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 1: Walls may eat at Chick fil A and go, you know, 97 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 1: deer hunting once every four years or something, doesn't mean 98 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 1: that he shares beliefs. This is for me as a Manhattanite. 99 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:56,839 Speaker 1: Why is it that I can go and sit down 100 00:04:56,839 --> 00:04:59,719 Speaker 1: with people who live in you know, the most rural 101 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:03,359 Speaker 1: art of Nebraska or Oklahoma anywhere, and we see the 102 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 1: world the same way and we agree on everything mostly right. 103 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 1: I mean I can sit there and talk them and 104 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:11,839 Speaker 1: there's just this back and forth. It's because we're ideologically aligned. 105 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 1: What they're trying to do with this Democrat party right now, 106 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 1: the fool people is present these politicians, as you can 107 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 1: trust them, they're look at Tim Wallas and Kamala Harris 108 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 1: even as a moderate. All of this is meant to 109 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 1: be a fake out. And the one moment that I 110 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 1: thought was if you dig into it a little bit. 111 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 1: Michelle Obama last night talked about those who oppose trans 112 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:38,600 Speaker 1: kids stuff. 113 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 2: This is cut too. Listen to what she says about this. 114 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 8: Play demonizing our children for being who they are and 115 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:47,040 Speaker 8: loving who they love. 116 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:50,239 Speaker 3: Look, that doesn't make anybody's life better. 117 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 1: I mean, hold on a second, who is demonizing children. Okay, 118 00:05:57,120 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 1: and she used the word children, So let's let's dig 119 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 1: in this. Who's demonizing children in the context of the 120 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 1: trans agenda. 121 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 2: It's not the children. 122 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:10,480 Speaker 1: It's actually the psychotic adults who want to use children 123 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 1: as like a fashion accessory to fit in with their 124 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:16,040 Speaker 1: friends and tell everybody that, I mean, that is overwhelmingly 125 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:16,480 Speaker 1: the case. 126 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 2: I understand. 127 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:20,280 Speaker 1: There are other pressures, there are broader forces people. Can 128 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 1: you know this happened at They're all Women's college down 129 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:25,039 Speaker 1: the street from me when I was in college, Clay 130 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:29,239 Speaker 1: pressuring women to you know, adopt the different. But in general, 131 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 1: no one's demonizing children. They're demonizing adults who're filling children's 132 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 1: heads with craziness. But Michelle Obama trans kids. We're not 133 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 1: talking about adults here, trans kids, twelve, thirteen, fourteen year olds, 134 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 1: and she wants us to think that that's normal, that's 135 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:46,679 Speaker 1: all American, that's the America of today. 136 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:51,799 Speaker 7: That's also where I think a lot of parents jump 137 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:52,839 Speaker 7: off the train. 138 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 5: And you want to talk about. 139 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 7: People who are reasonable, middle part of the country individuals. 140 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:03,679 Speaker 7: I've got a sixteen, a thirteen, and a nine year old. 141 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:06,919 Speaker 7: The nine year old doesn't get to pick what he 142 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 7: eats for every meal. Nobody out there who has young 143 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:15,239 Speaker 7: kids lets them pick what they eat for every meal, 144 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 7: because they would eat candy, they would eat cake, they 145 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 7: would eat the most unhealthy things imaginable if you let 146 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 7: a young child pick what they eat. This is an easy, easy, 147 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 7: I think, very understandable parent, grandparent move. The idea that 148 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:35,240 Speaker 7: you would let a nine year old or a ten 149 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 7: year old or a twelve year old or a fourteen 150 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 7: year old pick their gender for life and give them 151 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 7: drugs and or allow them to have surgery to reflect 152 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 7: that particular worldview is crazy and that is democratic orthodoxy. 153 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 1: Now the it is, and that's important. And Michelle Obama's 154 00:07:57,800 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 1: talking last night about you know the greatness of America 155 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 1: and if we all work together, and you know, Barack Obama, 156 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 1: same thing. You know, if we just all come together 157 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 1: and say no to bad things and say yes to 158 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 1: good things, then the future is you know, unicorns and 159 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 1: ponies and great things, all this stuff. They don't want 160 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 1: parental notification for gender transition. Democrats oppose that we need 161 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 1: to understand this. So not only is it your fourteen 162 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 1: year old can get puberty blockers, not only is it 163 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 1: that you should i mean, we're not even getting into 164 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:31,239 Speaker 1: the men and women's sports thing, which is just wrong. 165 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 2: Okay, it's just wrong. But they don't want parents. See, 166 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:34,559 Speaker 2: this is the thing. 167 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 3: It's not just about it's not about parents. These kids 168 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:41,200 Speaker 3: are being fed into a system that is trying to 169 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:45,200 Speaker 3: separate the parental right of trying to do what is 170 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:48,240 Speaker 3: best for the child all the time. And say, you're 171 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 3: not even gonna know you know what I'm saying that 172 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:54,200 Speaker 3: they want cultural influences to be pushing kids to this 173 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:56,559 Speaker 3: stuff and parents to be cut out. 174 00:08:56,920 --> 00:08:59,080 Speaker 2: This is wrong, This is wrong. 175 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 5: Buck think about this. 176 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 7: The tattoo argument, I think is a good one because 177 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 7: you can't get a tattoo anywhere under eighteen, and in fact, 178 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 7: if you're a parent and you're involved in that, sometimes 179 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:11,319 Speaker 7: you can get charged with a crime. Obviously, tattoos nowhere 180 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 7: near as significant. But also think about what we do 181 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:16,440 Speaker 7: with most crimes that are committed by kids who are 182 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 7: under the age of eighteen. We say, hey, by and large, 183 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 7: I know there are exceptions certain violent crimes where you 184 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 7: get tried as an adult, but by and large, if 185 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:29,360 Speaker 7: you're under eighteen and you commit a crime, we erase 186 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 7: that from your record. When you turn to an adult. Right, 187 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 7: Why do we do that? Because we don't believe that 188 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 7: young kids have the mental capacity to be held accountable 189 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 7: for the crimes they might commit. That is a hundreds 190 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:46,440 Speaker 7: of years policy that has existed in the United States. 191 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 5: Why would we let somebody change their gender. 192 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:54,840 Speaker 7: All of the logic that you and me, and our 193 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:59,199 Speaker 7: grandparents and our great grandparents built up over decades and 194 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:04,080 Speaker 7: de generations of life experience are suddenly being erased when 195 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:08,199 Speaker 7: you say, hey, we've got to affirm that fourteen year 196 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 7: old's belief that he or she is in a different body. 197 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 7: And this is also important. If you are nineteen years old, 198 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 7: I think it's a poor decision. Or twenty years old 199 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 7: and you decide that you want to be a man 200 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 7: physically as opposed to a woman, you have the right 201 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 7: to do that. I haven't heard anybody say that you 202 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:28,360 Speaker 7: shouldn't be able to do that. I think it's a 203 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 7: poor choice. I think it's unlikely to make you happier. 204 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:34,839 Speaker 7: But we allow adults to make decisions based on their 205 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:37,960 Speaker 7: own pursuit of happiness that sometimes others of us might 206 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 7: not approve of. All we're saying here is don't treat 207 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 7: kids miners like adults when it comes to permanently life 208 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 7: altering medical treatments, just like historically we've said, hey, for 209 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 7: most crimes, we're not going to treat miners as adults 210 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:57,679 Speaker 7: because they don't have the mental cognition to know the 211 00:10:57,760 --> 00:10:58,720 Speaker 7: choices that they're making. 212 00:10:58,920 --> 00:10:59,960 Speaker 5: So basic stuff. 213 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:02,439 Speaker 1: I just think it's interesting the Democrat party is the oh, 214 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 1: we're we're as American as apple pie, and like your 215 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:06,560 Speaker 1: thirteen year old should be able to be transed and 216 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:08,959 Speaker 1: any and and parents shouldn't have to know and that 217 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:11,559 Speaker 1: those are those are, those are. That's a problem, all right, 218 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:13,599 Speaker 1: that's normal. People see this for what it is. And 219 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:15,560 Speaker 1: that's why Michelle Obama referred to it in that way. 220 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:19,360 Speaker 1: She said, demonizing our children for being who they are 221 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:25,960 Speaker 1: and loving who they love. Like I guess she's she's 222 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 1: then talking about like when you're an adult and your 223 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:31,160 Speaker 1: kids become adults and like gay or trans the loving 224 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 1: who they love thing. I'm not really clear on what 225 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:36,839 Speaker 1: like what she's trying to say they're really because she's 226 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 1: talking about kids. On the on the one hand, I 227 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:41,360 Speaker 1: don't I don't even know what points she was really 228 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:43,560 Speaker 1: making there, But on the demonizing our children for being 229 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 1: who they are. I think that's very clear. And then 230 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 1: there's one other thing that stuck out to me. I'm 231 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:51,319 Speaker 1: not gonna play. I'm not gonna make our people, our 232 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 1: listeners sit through the pain of just all the media 233 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:55,439 Speaker 1: commentators like. 234 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 5: Barack Obama's speech was the greatest speech in the history 235 00:11:58,760 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 5: of speeches. 236 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 3: We know, we know, it's every speech Barack Obama always 237 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 3: gives as the greatest. 238 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:05,199 Speaker 2: He's, you know, the greatest genius of all time. He's 239 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 2: so amazing. 240 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, foreign policy was a shambles, and 241 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:11,079 Speaker 1: his economic recovery was the worst since World War Two, 242 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:12,440 Speaker 1: and there's a whole lot of things we could talk about, 243 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:13,960 Speaker 1: you know, and he's a socialist. But other than that, 244 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:17,720 Speaker 1: everything is a genius, genius move. But he said this, 245 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 1: which I think some people would recognize as he made 246 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:26,240 Speaker 1: a joke about Trump. This is twenty nine. And I'll 247 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:28,559 Speaker 1: describe a little more what this joke was in a second. 248 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 1: But he's making a joke about Trump. Oh sorry, plate 249 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 1: cut six. Rather, this is cut six. 250 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 3: There's the childish nicknames, the crazy conspiracy theories, this weird 251 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 3: obsession with crowd sizes. 252 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 1: I mean, he makes a hand gesture here, we all 253 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 1: we all sort of see what he's doing, and he's 254 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:58,319 Speaker 1: taking a shot at Now I get it, right Trump. 255 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:01,079 Speaker 1: You know, Trump has made he's taken people in the past, 256 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 1: and he doesn't. So I'm not saying, oh, look, but 257 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:06,840 Speaker 1: we're always told that, you know, Obama is this almost 258 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 1: this sort of superhuman political figure who goes beyond partisanship. 259 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 1: And he's making really the most sort of petty and 260 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:19,440 Speaker 1: lame joke imaginable at the DNC on stage, and you know, 261 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 1: I look, I just I don't know the whole Obama, 262 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:27,200 Speaker 1: the whole Obama phenomenon among Democrats. It's just this, it's 263 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:30,520 Speaker 1: this demagoguery and hero worship that bears no reality and 264 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 1: no reality checks whatsoever. That's accurate, And I think again, 265 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 1: when you dive into some of the specifics, what they're 266 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:43,600 Speaker 1: actually arguing for is incredibly radical. I'm glad you pulled 267 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:47,079 Speaker 1: that Michelle Obama clip and played it. I mean, make 268 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 1: no mistake. They think that your fourteen year old should 269 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:52,840 Speaker 1: be able to decide that she wants her breast removed. 270 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 1: They think that you're sixteen year old should be able 271 00:13:56,200 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 1: to ensure that he doesn't hit puberty. And isn't able 272 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:03,079 Speaker 1: to develop into a full blown man or woman, whatever 273 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 1: their gender is. And just because Tim Wallace looks like 274 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:09,640 Speaker 1: a guy who enjoys the waffle fries at Chick fil 275 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:12,439 Speaker 1: A a little too much and wears a camo hat 276 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:15,560 Speaker 1: and you know, coach some football, doesn't mean. 277 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 3: That he has politics that align with anyone who's a 278 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 3: normal American. 279 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 1: He has the politics that align with people who believe 280 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:28,920 Speaker 1: all this left wing lunacy. So he's a he is 281 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 1: a wolf in sheep's clothing in a sense. I mean, 282 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 1: he is meant to be a fraud and a fake out, 283 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 1: and I just find that I find it so condescending. 284 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:39,640 Speaker 2: Clay, That's it. It is why I'm holding out on 285 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 2: the walls things. 286 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:40,760 Speaker 5: Either. 287 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 7: I think it only works for media that cover this 288 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 7: because they don't really have any idea what people in 289 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 7: the middle part of the country are like either. 290 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 1: You know, It's like it's like when John Carry all 291 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 1: of a sudden goes duck hunting, and he's like, oh, like, 292 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 1: I love it when the butlers bring me my shotgun 293 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 1: because my super rich wife has so much money that 294 00:14:57,360 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 1: I could do absolutely anything. 295 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 2: But I'm just like, like you I rolled up my sleeves. 296 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:04,080 Speaker 2: See the sleeves. 297 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 7: Are rolled up, John saying this forever Buck. Because of sports. 298 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:09,440 Speaker 7: People show up like you did when you came to 299 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:12,200 Speaker 7: an SEC game, and they're like, Wow, there's lots of 300 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:14,840 Speaker 7: people who come to watch college football games. This is 301 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 7: probably a big market. 302 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 2: Wow. 303 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 7: They're like, yeah, this is the life that I lead. 304 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:23,480 Speaker 7: It doesn't seem extraordinary or amazing to me because this 305 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 7: is where I live. When people come from the coast 306 00:15:26,880 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 7: and they decide that they're going to try to appeal 307 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 7: to that, it typically strikes the discordant stone. There's nobody 308 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 7: discordant tone. There's nobody in Alabama who's like, man, I 309 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:37,800 Speaker 7: was really unsure about Tim Walls, and then I saw 310 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:40,120 Speaker 7: him wearing a Camo hat, and now I know he's 311 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:42,160 Speaker 7: like me, that's the hard. 312 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 2: The whole pitch. 313 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 1: That is exactly what they're trying to do, which is democrats. Look, 314 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:50,720 Speaker 1: there's so much going on now week to week, and 315 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:52,120 Speaker 1: we cover a lot of it here on the show. 316 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:54,600 Speaker 2: But you know, Clay likes to write. I like to write. 317 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 1: So I've launched a newsletter and this is a newsletter 318 00:15:56,760 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 1: that's focusing on the biggest ideas in politics. 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That's the Urgent Message dot Com again, The 336 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 1: Urgent Message dot Com. 337 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 5: Two guys walk up to a mic. 338 00:16:54,640 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 9: Anything goes Clay Travis and Buck SEXTI find them on 339 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:04,800 Speaker 9: the free iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts. 340 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:07,200 Speaker 1: Welcome back into Clay and Buck. We've got a quick 341 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:10,679 Speaker 1: turn around here. So you know, one of we were 342 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:12,920 Speaker 1: talking about walls a second ago. One of the issues 343 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:16,560 Speaker 1: that we are that he is dealing with rather and 344 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:19,399 Speaker 1: that has become a big point of contention, is his 345 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:25,840 Speaker 1: military record, rather the way he speaks about and embellishes 346 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:30,240 Speaker 1: some aspects of his military record. Military service is honorable 347 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:33,879 Speaker 1: and we all respect, appreciate and honor that. But lying 348 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 1: about things is lying about things, and that's not good. 349 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:39,680 Speaker 1: So we will talk to somebody who could shed specific 350 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:42,360 Speaker 1: light on this one, and we have a very important 351 00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:46,359 Speaker 1: guest for you on that issue, and more so we'll 352 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:48,560 Speaker 1: be getting into that here momentarily. 353 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:51,440 Speaker 2: But you know, oh boy, this is tough. 354 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 1: In Israel today they are mourning the six hostages who 355 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:57,160 Speaker 1: were taken last year on October seventh and found dead 356 00:17:57,200 --> 00:18:01,119 Speaker 1: by Israeli soldiers. There are still one hundred nine hostages 357 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:05,639 Speaker 1: unaccounted for, including at least five Americans, and while Israeli 358 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:08,680 Speaker 1: Defense Ministry troops are doing their best to find those 359 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:12,240 Speaker 1: remaining hostages, another part of the IDF is defending citizens 360 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:14,960 Speaker 1: in Israel under your constant attack that is just daily 361 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:18,439 Speaker 1: life in Israel right now. For more than forty years, 362 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:21,119 Speaker 1: the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews has been on 363 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:23,760 Speaker 1: the ground in Israel. Within hours of the war starting, 364 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:26,240 Speaker 1: and every day since, the IFCJ has been feeding the 365 00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 1: hungry and protecting the vulnerable. We need to help them, 366 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:31,080 Speaker 1: and one solid way to do it is through the 367 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:34,240 Speaker 1: humanitarian efforts provided by the IFCJ. 368 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 2: Support Israel through the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews. 369 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:42,080 Speaker 1: To hear more stories like this one and show your 370 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:48,160 Speaker 1: support for Israel, visit support IFCJ dot org again, that's 371 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:52,120 Speaker 1: support IFCJ dot org. 372 00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 2: Welcome back in Suku and Buck. 373 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 1: We are joined by a special guest here, retired Minnesota 374 00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:02,400 Speaker 1: National Guard command start Major Thomas Barons is with us 375 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:06,120 Speaker 1: and and Uh. I want to appreciate first of all, 376 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:08,480 Speaker 1: Stir of your service and thank you for making the 377 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:14,160 Speaker 1: time for us. Tell us you were the individual who 378 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:19,080 Speaker 1: had to fill the the command space left by the 379 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:23,359 Speaker 1: departure as I understand it, of Tim Walls after his 380 00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:24,760 Speaker 1: decades in the National Guard. 381 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:29,640 Speaker 2: Just please set the table for everybody, tell them your story, all. 382 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:35,880 Speaker 8: Right, well, setting the table for everybody. Basically, Tim Walls 383 00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:38,840 Speaker 8: was in the one of the one two five command 384 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 8: sergeant major position. He was acting in that in that capacity, 385 00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:46,440 Speaker 8: you know, trying to get his his United States Army 386 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:51,879 Speaker 8: Sergeant major's academy accomplished and other other requirements to hold 387 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:55,959 Speaker 8: the rank, and he was in that position. In the 388 00:19:56,000 --> 00:20:00,679 Speaker 8: spring of h five. He filed to UH filed with 389 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:03,720 Speaker 8: the Election Commission on the tenth of February, I believe 390 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:08,520 Speaker 8: to run for Congress. We got. There was a warning 391 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:13,280 Speaker 8: order published on March seventeenth that was spread across the 392 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:16,000 Speaker 8: state to the first Brigade Combat Team, which the one 393 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:19,520 Speaker 8: of the one two five Field Artillery was part of, 394 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:23,240 Speaker 8: and basically told everybody to start preparing. We're going to 395 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:26,679 Speaker 8: be deployed to Iraq, you know, sometime in the in 396 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:29,960 Speaker 8: the next two years or whatever it said. I don't 397 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:32,720 Speaker 8: know the exact wording, but that was put out to 398 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:35,639 Speaker 8: everybody to you know, get get everything in order, let 399 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 8: your employer know, let your family know, you know, work 400 00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:40,639 Speaker 8: on your will, do it, you know, do whatever you 401 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:43,439 Speaker 8: need to start doing, because you know, this is the 402 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:46,040 Speaker 8: hard order is going to come down later, so you're 403 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 8: you know, this is the preparation order. And then he 404 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:54,200 Speaker 8: published a statement from his campaign on twentieth of March. 405 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:55,919 Speaker 8: I believe that said. You know, he was in a 406 00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 8: still campaign. He was gonna he was going to go, 407 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:02,359 Speaker 8: you know, whether reason Minnesota or Iraq. He was going 408 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 8: to keep on trucking being a soldier and campaign for office. 409 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:09,720 Speaker 8: He told the brigade command sergeant major he was going 410 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 8: to be going to Iraq, and you know, everybody assumed 411 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:15,480 Speaker 8: that's what he was going to do, because that's what 412 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:19,320 Speaker 8: a normal patriotic American would have done at that point. 413 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:23,679 Speaker 8: And then two months later in May, then he walked 414 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:26,720 Speaker 8: out the door and said sayonara, and then left and 415 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:30,960 Speaker 8: left the battalion, five hundred soldiers hanging without one of 416 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 8: their top top leaders. 417 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:35,720 Speaker 7: Oh, we appreciate you coming on with us, and we 418 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:38,960 Speaker 7: appreciate your service. As Buck said, this is Clay, and 419 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 7: I really appreciate you giving us the time you served. 420 00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:46,960 Speaker 7: Many of our listeners served for people out there who 421 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:51,720 Speaker 7: did not serve. Was this cowardice? How would you classify 422 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:55,800 Speaker 7: what Walls did when he didn't deploy with his troops 423 00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:56,399 Speaker 7: to Iraq? 424 00:21:57,720 --> 00:22:01,119 Speaker 8: Well, you know, the military's got seven seven or the 425 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:04,560 Speaker 8: army does seven leadership, you know traits and you know 426 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:06,600 Speaker 8: a lot of them is selfless service. And you know, 427 00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 8: on the best day, this is selfish, self fish service, 428 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:14,560 Speaker 8: basically just looking out for himself, not giving a damn 429 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:18,879 Speaker 8: about five hundred soldiers and the thousand sets of parents 430 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:22,440 Speaker 8: that are that are expecting this senior NCO that's been 431 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:26,040 Speaker 8: in for twenty some years that he's gonna be, you know, 432 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:29,000 Speaker 8: taking care of them, trying to get him home alive. 433 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 8: And on the other the worst case of it is 434 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 8: that absolute colored us. Maybe he had no confidence in 435 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:38,480 Speaker 8: his leadership ability. I really don't know. He's never stood 436 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:41,439 Speaker 8: up and told anybody exactly why the hell he went 437 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:43,639 Speaker 8: he got out. I mean, he did tell some senior 438 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:46,800 Speaker 8: leadership that I need to get out to run for Congress, 439 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:49,280 Speaker 8: which is bs because a lot of people do both 440 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:52,680 Speaker 8: and they and they serve their country in both capacities 441 00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:55,680 Speaker 8: and then they come back and they been they're in Congress, 442 00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 8: and then they might get deployed again. But I you know, 443 00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:00,960 Speaker 8: I've looked up different things, and you know, one of 444 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 8: them I called him right out at first was that 445 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:06,320 Speaker 8: he's a trader, you know, because basically, you know, in 446 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:08,480 Speaker 8: the nation called he hung up the phone and said, 447 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 8: to hell with you. And then another one I've seen 448 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:13,399 Speaker 8: out there is that he's a deserter, because that's somebody 449 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 8: that they abandoned their post and they leave the military 450 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:19,560 Speaker 8: and they have no intent they never look back, they 451 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:21,680 Speaker 8: have no intention of ever getting back in it again. 452 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:24,239 Speaker 8: And that's literally what he did. I mean, he just 453 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 8: his post was I'm supposed to be in this guard 454 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:29,920 Speaker 8: tower here and I and I say that hell with it, 455 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:32,480 Speaker 8: and I walk off into the sunset, so I have 456 00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:33,400 Speaker 8: better things to do. 457 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:37,119 Speaker 1: We're speaking, We're speaking a retired Minnesota National Guard command 458 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:41,760 Speaker 1: Sergeant Major Thomas Barns, who answered the call and took 459 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:45,960 Speaker 1: his men to war after Tim Wallas decided he had 460 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:47,680 Speaker 1: other better. 461 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:49,560 Speaker 2: Things to do with his time. And that's what we're 462 00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:50,440 Speaker 2: discussing right now. 463 00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:53,959 Speaker 1: And Sergeant Major Barons, can you just tell me this 464 00:23:54,960 --> 00:24:00,240 Speaker 1: The allegations or criticisms that are out there about out 465 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 1: walls embellishing his record, things like saying he served as 466 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:09,240 Speaker 1: part of the you know, the war in Afghanistan when 467 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:11,240 Speaker 1: he was in Italy and now saying he's support of 468 00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:15,360 Speaker 1: do you find those criticisms also valid? 469 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:16,560 Speaker 2: Does it bother you? 470 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 1: Does it bother other members of the service when somebody 471 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:23,320 Speaker 1: is inflating or embellishing their record. 472 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:29,000 Speaker 8: That's absolutely gut wrench hearing it. I mean, it's been 473 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:31,879 Speaker 8: there's been so many veterans that have came out and 474 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:35,679 Speaker 8: can't stand this rhetoric that he's been spewing for years. 475 00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:40,280 Speaker 8: You know, it literally cuts to the core of you know, honor, duty, 476 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:45,800 Speaker 8: and respect that many military people have. Very very very 477 00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:49,719 Speaker 8: few people ever try to lie what they did and 478 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:52,320 Speaker 8: make it look better than what they did. You know, 479 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:57,040 Speaker 8: between you know, those Afghanistan comments and and saying that 480 00:24:57,080 --> 00:25:00,360 Speaker 8: he's a retired command sergeant major when he when he wasn't. 481 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:03,480 Speaker 8: You know, he's not. He's he didn't finish the course, 482 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:06,359 Speaker 8: he didn't finish his requirements, and he still I mean, 483 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:09,320 Speaker 8: he even had a challenge coin made from Congress, from 484 00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:12,800 Speaker 8: the House of Representatives with the command surgeon major rank 485 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:15,760 Speaker 8: on it, and all those people that served in Congress 486 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:17,720 Speaker 8: they had to listen to him blow hard about how 487 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:20,359 Speaker 8: he was the highest ranking guy in there, and it 488 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:22,520 Speaker 8: comes out now that he wasn't, and it's you know 489 00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:26,359 Speaker 8: that that's just absolutely sad. When somebody lies that much, 490 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:27,919 Speaker 8: what the hell are they going to do at the 491 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:32,320 Speaker 8: national level, That that's absolutely. It's just disgusting that, you know, 492 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:34,120 Speaker 8: he should have just went and called under a rock, 493 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 8: but instead he's out there, you know, pounding his chest 494 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:40,280 Speaker 8: and saying saying he is something he's not. He's a 495 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:42,960 Speaker 8: military impersonator, is what he is. If you if you 496 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:45,480 Speaker 8: look up the definition of that, you know there's two versions, 497 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:49,320 Speaker 8: one civilian and one's military. And you know the military guy, 498 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:52,720 Speaker 8: he'll he'll have rank on that he doesn't doesn't earn. 499 00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:55,760 Speaker 8: He'll put medals on that he didn't earn. That's where 500 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:59,440 Speaker 8: the stolen valor thing comes into play, because he literally 501 00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:05,280 Speaker 8: did all that for personal gain, for monetary value of 502 00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:08,320 Speaker 8: being a you know, in Congress or a governor. You know, 503 00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:12,400 Speaker 8: all that all is. You know, I would guest charges 504 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:14,439 Speaker 8: are probably going to be brought against him at some point. 505 00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:18,439 Speaker 7: When you tried to get this story out as he 506 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:22,520 Speaker 7: ran for governor, it was largely ignored, I think, although 507 00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:24,520 Speaker 7: I want you to kind of walk me through it. 508 00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:28,520 Speaker 7: What has the reaction been now that he is attempting 509 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:31,439 Speaker 7: to become a heartbeat away from the presidency. Has the 510 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:34,920 Speaker 7: media covered this story fairly in your mind? Have they 511 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:37,920 Speaker 7: reached out to you very much? What can you tell us. 512 00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 7: This audience I think has heard your story, and if 513 00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:43,119 Speaker 7: they haven't, we're certainly glad to have you on. 514 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:45,040 Speaker 5: That's why we brought you on as a guest. 515 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:50,200 Speaker 7: How was this factual analysis that you've provide covered in 516 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:53,400 Speaker 7: the governor's campaign and how is it being covered now 517 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:56,320 Speaker 7: from your perspective as a retired member of the service. 518 00:26:57,440 --> 00:26:59,800 Speaker 8: Well back in eighteen when I first brought this out, 519 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,199 Speaker 8: send it to every newspaper that I could find on 520 00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 8: the internet in the state, and I and every radio 521 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:08,440 Speaker 8: station and every TV station trying to get the word 522 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:12,159 Speaker 8: out there before the elections that people could actually judge 523 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:15,159 Speaker 8: whether this was somebody they wanted to be our governor 524 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:19,400 Speaker 8: or not. Because to me, as a military person retiree, 525 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:22,959 Speaker 8: I hold this dear to my heart that somebody that 526 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:25,840 Speaker 8: lies about something like this should not be in public 527 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:28,840 Speaker 8: office and should not be able to make decisions because 528 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:32,440 Speaker 8: they already made a really bad decision. And I actually 529 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:36,359 Speaker 8: had the my lyrical paper published the article the Truth 530 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:40,720 Speaker 8: about Tim Walls, and then then the Western Western Tribute 531 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:43,440 Speaker 8: I think it's called. I had to pay for that 532 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:47,480 Speaker 8: as a paid political ad, and then everybody else was like, well, 533 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:49,480 Speaker 8: we you know, we can't publish it as a letter 534 00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:54,480 Speaker 8: to the editor to start tributing in Minneapolis. They basically said, well, 535 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:57,560 Speaker 8: these are pretty serious allegations, and I said yeah, but 536 00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:00,280 Speaker 8: I said, they're pretty damn close to all true, and 537 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:02,919 Speaker 8: there might be a little something of a date or 538 00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:05,399 Speaker 8: something that might be wrong. But I said, here's the 539 00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:08,080 Speaker 8: people to talk to, here's the here's the people above him. 540 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:11,800 Speaker 8: Vet the story. If it's true, publish it. If it's not, 541 00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:15,800 Speaker 8: sue me for slander because I'm slandering. If this is 542 00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:20,359 Speaker 8: not true, I'm slandering a sitting congressman. And they vetted it. 543 00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:22,359 Speaker 8: They got back to me a couple of days later, 544 00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:24,840 Speaker 8: said this is all this, This is just exactly as 545 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:27,800 Speaker 8: you said. This is true. We're going to run an 546 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:30,040 Speaker 8: article on it. And then a few hours later or 547 00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:33,440 Speaker 8: a day later, they came back. The guy reporter got 548 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:37,920 Speaker 8: back to me and said this our editor next to story. 549 00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:40,360 Speaker 8: They said it's too close to the election and it 550 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:43,440 Speaker 8: might influence the election. And all I thought to myself is, 551 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:45,840 Speaker 8: what the hell is this North Korea. I mean, you've 552 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:49,000 Speaker 8: got the state you know, a media that it's not 553 00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:52,040 Speaker 8: state run, but it's acting like it's state run, and 554 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:54,720 Speaker 8: I when this story broke, you know, when he got picked, 555 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:58,040 Speaker 8: you know, by somebody that never should have picked. I mean, 556 00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:00,120 Speaker 8: I don't know how what the hell of vetting process 557 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:05,360 Speaker 8: was to select this guy, but it's just absolutely incompetency 558 00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:08,840 Speaker 8: to pick him as the vice president. And he gets 559 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:11,240 Speaker 8: in there, you know, then basically the prairie fire started 560 00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:17,000 Speaker 8: and it's just exploded with with different news organizations contacting 561 00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:19,680 Speaker 8: me and to and other members to get the story out. 562 00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:22,120 Speaker 8: And I told the one lady, I said, well, I 563 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:25,520 Speaker 8: haven't gotten I haven't gotten called by CNN yet. And 564 00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:27,800 Speaker 8: about a day later I did, and I was like, well, 565 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:31,000 Speaker 8: this is this is pretty crazy. I mean, and they've 566 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:34,840 Speaker 8: been they've been pretty good on some of it. You know, 567 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:36,960 Speaker 8: they'll they'll pick and choose kind of what they want 568 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:40,000 Speaker 8: to publish. They don't publish my whole story because they 569 00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:42,520 Speaker 8: know that it's not what they want narrative they want 570 00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:45,240 Speaker 8: to get out there. But it's been very good and 571 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:47,880 Speaker 8: it's you know, continuing to this day and it's going on, 572 00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:52,440 Speaker 8: you know, way in the next week, different media outlets 573 00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:54,440 Speaker 8: that we need to get the word out and get 574 00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:57,280 Speaker 8: get the truth out there and get him sent back. 575 00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:59,600 Speaker 8: And I don't think they want him in the brask 576 00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:01,680 Speaker 8: I don't know the hell we're gonna send him, But are. 577 00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:02,800 Speaker 5: You gonna watch him speak tonight? 578 00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:07,480 Speaker 8: I uh, I don't know if I can stand it 579 00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:08,400 Speaker 8: or not, but I might. 580 00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:13,000 Speaker 7: That's kind of the general response I think of most 581 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:15,080 Speaker 7: of our audience, by the way, that's perfect, sir. We 582 00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:17,520 Speaker 7: appreciate the time, we appreciate your service, Thank you for 583 00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:20,280 Speaker 7: reaching out talking to us. If there's more you want 584 00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:22,600 Speaker 7: to share with us between now and the election, we'd 585 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:23,520 Speaker 7: love to have you back. 586 00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:26,120 Speaker 8: On Well, that sounds great. The only thing I'd like 587 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:29,200 Speaker 8: to add is that if if your audience wants to 588 00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:32,360 Speaker 8: know what he's done to Minnesota, you know, get the 589 00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:35,800 Speaker 8: book They're Lying by Liz Colin, or or watch the 590 00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:40,160 Speaker 8: documentary The Fall of Minneapolis, and that'll If that's what 591 00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:43,080 Speaker 8: you want this country to, what you want it to 592 00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:46,000 Speaker 8: have happened to this country, just vote for him because 593 00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:49,680 Speaker 8: he'll burn her down and and bail out the ones 594 00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:50,240 Speaker 8: that burned it. 595 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:51,360 Speaker 5: Sir. 596 00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:54,000 Speaker 7: Thank you, We appreciate the time, Thank you for sharing 597 00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:56,200 Speaker 7: your story, and thank you for the service filling in 598 00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:59,960 Speaker 7: when Tim Walls wasn't willing to do what his obligation 599 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:02,680 Speaker 7: and responsibilities would have suggested he would serve for his 600 00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:03,800 Speaker 7: men overseas in Iraq. 601 00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:07,040 Speaker 8: Thank you you are ALcom and thank you for being 602 00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:08,440 Speaker 8: one of the people we're fighting for. 603 00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:09,400 Speaker 4: Well. 604 00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:12,120 Speaker 7: That means a lot to us for sure, and speaking 605 00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:15,120 Speaker 7: of being worth fighting for, Tunnel the Towers Foundation is 606 00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:18,680 Speaker 7: an organization that wants to fight for you on behalf 607 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:20,400 Speaker 7: of all the people out there that are putting their 608 00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:24,240 Speaker 7: lives on the line every single day, families overseas, families 609 00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:27,440 Speaker 7: in the Armed services, first responders, those that defend our freedoms. 610 00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:31,840 Speaker 7: I've met a lot of these family members fortunately in person. 611 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:34,240 Speaker 7: Going to be up in October helping to raise money 612 00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:36,600 Speaker 7: for Tunnel the Towers. 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That's tea the number two 637 00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:49,400 Speaker 7: t dot org. 638 00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:54,000 Speaker 9: Have fun with the guys on Sundays the Sunday Hang Podcast. 639 00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:57,960 Speaker 9: It's silly, It's goofy, it's good times. Fight it in 640 00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:00,400 Speaker 9: the Clay and Buck podcast feed on the My Hearts 641 00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:03,080 Speaker 9: radio app or wherever you get your podcasts. 642 00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:06,440 Speaker 7: We're rolling through the wind Sty edition of the program. 643 00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:09,560 Speaker 7: I believe is Mark still there? He wanted to weigh in. 644 00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:15,520 Speaker 7: He's in Minnesota, the hometown of Tim Walls, the congressional base, 645 00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:20,280 Speaker 7: and they're planning a rally there at the high school 646 00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:22,760 Speaker 7: where he was an assistant coach. I want Mark, you 647 00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:24,920 Speaker 7: to tell us about what's going on there. 648 00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:28,080 Speaker 4: Okay, So first of all, I just like you said, 649 00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:30,120 Speaker 4: I love the Hill guys. You guys are like a 650 00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:33,600 Speaker 4: killer of a sanity and a communist dictator's world. 651 00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:38,640 Speaker 5: That's the awesome. Unfortunately, what they're. 652 00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:41,520 Speaker 4: Doing is through the school system, and I have a 653 00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:44,440 Speaker 4: good source inside that school system. I've seen the invitation. 654 00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:46,760 Speaker 4: Up through yesterday, they were denying that they were going 655 00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:49,840 Speaker 4: to have a political rally on the football field where 656 00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:53,400 Speaker 4: my son went to school and was taught by Tim Walls, 657 00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:57,200 Speaker 4: which I'm embarrassed to say they are having it now. Today. 658 00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:59,440 Speaker 4: An invitation came on and it says it's a political 659 00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:02,080 Speaker 4: rally today and. 660 00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:04,920 Speaker 7: So they're going to do a big rally on the outdoor. 661 00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:10,480 Speaker 7: I'm assuming football field at the high school, and this 662 00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:12,600 Speaker 7: is I don't know that this has been publicized yet, 663 00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:14,120 Speaker 7: but you're telling us it's happening. 664 00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:17,640 Speaker 4: It's happening tonight, and they must be having a big screen. 665 00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:21,000 Speaker 4: I haven't seen all the exact details, but if we 666 00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:23,399 Speaker 4: tried to do that for Trump, we would get thrown out. 667 00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:27,000 Speaker 4: Just to give people around the country who are independent 668 00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:29,759 Speaker 4: or Democrat wonder to whoever they should vote for. This 669 00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:34,399 Speaker 4: guy was on a complete lockdown under COVID. The things 670 00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:36,719 Speaker 4: he's done to this state. He squandered, he and the 671 00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:40,279 Speaker 4: legislature since they had all three branches of the legislature, 672 00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:45,040 Speaker 4: they squandered a seventeen billion dollar theurplus. And when those 673 00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:48,439 Speaker 4: programs come due, we will have to raise taxes because 674 00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:50,160 Speaker 4: we have no place to go and there is no 675 00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:52,600 Speaker 4: money to pay for all the programs they put in place. 676 00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:55,800 Speaker 4: Over the last two years, we had a two hundred 677 00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:59,200 Speaker 4: and fifty million dollars feeding our future during COVID. They 678 00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:01,879 Speaker 4: still don't know where they are where the money's at. 679 00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:05,360 Speaker 4: It's it's so ridiculous. For those that don't live in Minnesota, 680 00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:09,560 Speaker 4: you don't want to be under this rule at the 681 00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:13,160 Speaker 4: federal government level. You will not like it. I can 682 00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:13,919 Speaker 4: assure you that. 683 00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:14,200 Speaker 8: Well. 684 00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:16,160 Speaker 7: I appreciate you telling us this. I also think this 685 00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:18,080 Speaker 7: is important. We were talking and we'll talk a little 686 00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:20,840 Speaker 7: bit about this when we come back. Your district where 687 00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:24,320 Speaker 7: you are right now is relatively rural. You can describe 688 00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:28,399 Speaker 7: it if you want to. That congressional district, which supposedly 689 00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:32,400 Speaker 7: is showing how much appeal Tim Walls has in rural areas, 690 00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:35,960 Speaker 7: would he win if he ran this fall to be 691 00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:38,280 Speaker 7: the congressman from that district, Mark. 692 00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:42,440 Speaker 4: There's no chance, yes, absolute zero tense. When you get 693 00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:44,719 Speaker 4: to rural Minnesota and I have probably any rural area 694 00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:48,399 Speaker 4: in this entire country. The Dems are not like, they're 695 00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:50,680 Speaker 4: not liked at all, and Tim Walls that he'd probably 696 00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:54,720 Speaker 4: lose by twenty twenty five percent in that congressional district today. 697 00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:57,400 Speaker 7: Thank you for the call, Buck, I think this is important. 698 00:35:57,440 --> 00:35:59,399 Speaker 7: Let's come back and talk about this a little bit more. 699 00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:02,160 Speaker 7: But they try to in addition to as you pointed out, 700 00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:04,440 Speaker 7: oh he's got the camo hat. Oh look, he's just 701 00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:06,200 Speaker 7: like everybody else who lives in the middle part of 702 00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:09,040 Speaker 7: the country. The people who know him best, that is 703 00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:12,480 Speaker 7: the congressional district that he represented, if he were running 704 00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:16,239 Speaker 7: for reelection in that district right now in twenty twenty four, 705 00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:17,440 Speaker 7: he'd gets smoked. 706 00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:19,680 Speaker 5: They wouldn't vote for him. Yeah. 707 00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:22,360 Speaker 1: As he became more powerful, he became more left wing, 708 00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:25,719 Speaker 1: just like so many Democrats, I might add, when he 709 00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:28,399 Speaker 1: was trying to get there, he was all, Oh, I'm 710 00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:31,760 Speaker 1: just one of the folks, you know, I'm Carhart tim 711 00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:34,600 Speaker 1: with the camo hat. And then when he all of 712 00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:37,200 Speaker 1: a sudden is rubbing elbows with the Pelosis and the 713 00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:40,640 Speaker 1: Shumers of the world, it's my pronouns are and I 714 00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:43,000 Speaker 1: want to apologize for being on indigenous land.