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We talk 0:01:04.720 --> 0:01:07.760 about his career Brighton's new style of play, what he 0:01:07.880 --> 0:01:10.959 loved most about working in the US Open broadcast with Fox, 0:01:11.000 --> 0:01:11.679 and much more. 0:01:11.840 --> 0:01:14.640 I missed a green, for example, I'm already upset. When 0:01:14.640 --> 0:01:16.760 I find my ball in the bunker, I'm really upset. 0:01:16.840 --> 0:01:18.800 And when I find my ball in a bright egg 0:01:19.000 --> 0:01:23.680 Frida egg, the dreaded Friday Frida egg Frida egg brid egg, Lie, 0:01:23.760 --> 0:01:25.920 I'm about ready to run off the golf course. 0:01:50.200 --> 0:01:53.160 I wanted to ask you you had a lot of 0:01:53.320 --> 0:01:56.880 huge moments in your career, obviously your two US Open wins, 0:01:57.440 --> 0:02:02.000 But I'm curious where the closing eagle to win the 0:02:02.120 --> 0:02:06.200 NCAA title as a freshman ranks in your kind of 0:02:06.800 --> 0:02:07.720 golf memories. 0:02:09.560 --> 0:02:13.000 You know, it's it's it's it's a good question, and 0:02:13.040 --> 0:02:17.400 it's one that I always answer when you talk about 0:02:17.840 --> 0:02:21.240 fortunate enough to have some highlights. I put that in 0:02:21.320 --> 0:02:26.799 there because highlights just aren't professional highlights. Highlights are at 0:02:26.840 --> 0:02:32.000 each stage in your career, and that highlight propelled you 0:02:32.720 --> 0:02:38.160 or gave you confidence to go forward. And certainly that 0:02:38.320 --> 0:02:41.880 was huge for me personally as a freshman for Wake 0:02:41.960 --> 0:02:48.000 Forest as their first NCAA golf championship. For my teammates 0:02:48.000 --> 0:02:51.320 for my coach. You know, it was just huge and 0:02:51.360 --> 0:02:55.359 then the shot itself hit a one iron to eight 0:02:55.440 --> 0:02:59.080 or ten feet and making the putt. I was just 0:02:59.080 --> 0:03:02.200 trying to two putt. They went in. But you know 0:03:02.240 --> 0:03:04.760 it's just yeah, it was it's it's in my top, 0:03:04.919 --> 0:03:08.080 you know, three or four Be honest with you, because 0:03:08.120 --> 0:03:10.639 it was a one that you know what, what pops 0:03:10.720 --> 0:03:12.680 up in your memory back that that's one of them 0:03:12.720 --> 0:03:13.080 that does. 0:03:13.880 --> 0:03:17.760 Yeah, I imagined you can probably vividly remember all the 0:03:17.880 --> 0:03:20.520 details of that, that one iron. And you know, for 0:03:20.720 --> 0:03:24.400 younger listeners, this isn't your driving one iron, this is 0:03:24.440 --> 0:03:25.880 a butter knife. 0:03:27.080 --> 0:03:29.000 This is this is one you could cook a file, 0:03:29.360 --> 0:03:31.720 you could cut a flay with. Yes, go to your 0:03:32.040 --> 0:03:33.760 next time you go away. I don't know if you 0:03:33.760 --> 0:03:35.800 could even fond a one iron anymore. I don't know 0:03:36.080 --> 0:03:38.880 if a youngster went to see what a one iron McGregor, 0:03:39.320 --> 0:03:43.400 Spaulding Wilson one iron used to look like, gosh, where 0:03:43.400 --> 0:03:45.560 would you go to look for something like that other 0:03:45.640 --> 0:03:49.320 than your your granddaddy's garage? You know, I don't know, 0:03:50.240 --> 0:03:53.760 but uh, you know, we the blades were smaller, they 0:03:53.800 --> 0:03:57.720 were all forged. They were you had to hit them, 0:03:57.920 --> 0:03:59.960 you know, the closer to the housal, the more solid. 0:04:00.600 --> 0:04:02.640 But we did it. I mean it was something you 0:04:02.680 --> 0:04:07.320 didn't you didn't know any better. And you know, quite frankly, 0:04:07.400 --> 0:04:10.320 the middle and short irons were when you hit it 0:04:10.360 --> 0:04:14.200 solid there was with the softer old ballotta ball. It 0:04:14.240 --> 0:04:17.920 was like butter. It was so solid and so had 0:04:18.000 --> 0:04:22.200 such a sound, soft sound, and it flew so nicely. 0:04:23.839 --> 0:04:28.440 But things have changed in all aspects of that sound 0:04:28.560 --> 0:04:31.560 and feel and look than yesterday. 0:04:32.560 --> 0:04:37.080 Yeah, speaking of change, how being a young player in 0:04:37.240 --> 0:04:40.040 tour on tour in the late seventies and eighties, how 0:04:40.120 --> 0:04:44.640 is it? How was that different than the young players today? 0:04:45.520 --> 0:04:48.479 Oh? You know what I I'm first going to say 0:04:48.600 --> 0:04:52.239 in the course of this conversation. I never I never 0:04:52.360 --> 0:04:56.880 ever look at the youngsters today and say, gosh, it 0:04:56.920 --> 0:04:59.320 was better in my day, or I never want to 0:04:59.320 --> 0:05:03.960 be the the old jealous you know, crudgeon, that was 0:05:04.000 --> 0:05:08.000 better in my day. I think that it's all pretty 0:05:08.080 --> 0:05:10.600 much the same. You're out there to you know, as 0:05:10.680 --> 0:05:13.120 a youngster, you get on tour and first of all, 0:05:13.160 --> 0:05:16.400 you happy to be there. It was a dream. And 0:05:16.440 --> 0:05:20.520 now let's go forward from here and you keep your 0:05:20.560 --> 0:05:23.760 nose to the grindstone. You work, you hit out balls 0:05:23.839 --> 0:05:29.080 and balls and balls every single day. You progress slowly. 0:05:29.160 --> 0:05:34.040 Sometimes you don't think you progress, but you do, and 0:05:33.360 --> 0:05:36.039 then you then you might you know back in the 0:05:36.080 --> 0:05:37.960 day it was the top sixty. But anyway, you just 0:05:38.040 --> 0:05:43.000 you competitively, keep grinding and and trying to compete against 0:05:43.040 --> 0:05:47.760 the best there is and and so from that standpoint, 0:05:47.839 --> 0:05:49.800 it's all the same. You're trying to be the best 0:05:49.839 --> 0:05:52.600 you can be. You all have similar backgrounds in that 0:05:53.320 --> 0:05:56.920 you know, it came up in the game. You progressed, 0:05:57.920 --> 0:06:00.520 You enjoyed winning, but you knew there's a lot of 0:06:00.560 --> 0:06:03.560 work and more likely and not you you loved it 0:06:03.600 --> 0:06:07.120 more than the next guy. You competed harder, You worked 0:06:07.120 --> 0:06:10.240 harder than the next guy, and it showed. And so 0:06:10.480 --> 0:06:12.599 now you know, if you work hard on tour that 0:06:13.480 --> 0:06:16.960 I should improve. Some do, some don't. I mean there's 0:06:17.000 --> 0:06:19.159 a lot of there's a lot of variables here that 0:06:20.200 --> 0:06:25.040 to be successful on tour that you have to have. 0:06:26.520 --> 0:06:29.640 You know, you have to be an athletic type of individual. 0:06:30.839 --> 0:06:34.440 Now we've had our exceptions, but most in the most cases, 0:06:34.480 --> 0:06:38.080 you're a pretty good damn good athlete. Uh, you have 0:06:38.160 --> 0:06:41.840 to be stubborn. You know, you have to have a 0:06:41.880 --> 0:06:45.600 work ethic, you know, all these things that you have 0:06:45.640 --> 0:06:48.599 to love to compete, and you have to be able 0:06:48.600 --> 0:06:52.479 to You have to be able to accept the the 0:06:52.600 --> 0:06:55.120 failure on the stage and be able to get up 0:06:55.160 --> 0:06:56.880 the next day and look forward to going to the 0:06:56.880 --> 0:07:01.520 golf course again and all those things. So my answer 0:07:01.520 --> 0:07:04.400 to your simple questions, I think it's all pretty much 0:07:04.440 --> 0:07:08.280 the same as all competition at a young age. Yeah. 0:07:08.560 --> 0:07:10.800 I've talked to Jeff Ogilvie a couple of times, and 0:07:10.880 --> 0:07:15.000 he's obviously played an era a little bit later than yours, 0:07:15.040 --> 0:07:18.000 but one with huge change with obviously track Man, and 0:07:18.080 --> 0:07:20.920 he talks. One thing he talked about was the idea 0:07:21.000 --> 0:07:24.920 of everybody used to be searching for something and you'd 0:07:24.920 --> 0:07:27.360 get to the range on a weekly basis and somebody 0:07:27.400 --> 0:07:29.280 would say, oh, I think I figured it out. And 0:07:29.960 --> 0:07:32.720 with the advent or track Man, it's it's not really 0:07:32.760 --> 0:07:35.400 a secret anymore. Everybody's got to figure it out every day. 0:07:36.960 --> 0:07:42.520 Well, you know, I track Man gives you more knowledge, 0:07:42.520 --> 0:07:46.040 more detail of what's really happening. But you figured it 0:07:46.040 --> 0:07:49.480 out as a player. You knew what worked in a 0:07:49.600 --> 0:07:52.480 feel or what you thought was a movement on the 0:07:52.520 --> 0:07:56.440 backswing or down swing. You knew that feel. When I 0:07:56.640 --> 0:08:00.360 felt that, say on the start of my down I 0:08:00.440 --> 0:08:04.080 hit the ball better. So you tried to emulate that 0:08:04.640 --> 0:08:07.760 and repeat that. Now that you can do that in 0:08:07.800 --> 0:08:10.800 a daily in a particular day, and then when you 0:08:10.840 --> 0:08:12.680 go to bed, it never seems to be there the 0:08:12.720 --> 0:08:15.440 next morning. Yes, so you have to try to find 0:08:15.480 --> 0:08:17.880 that the next morning, and it might be a little 0:08:17.920 --> 0:08:20.800 bit different feel, it might be, but you get it. 0:08:21.000 --> 0:08:24.000 You get what I'm saying is that we had our 0:08:24.040 --> 0:08:27.040 own track man, within our own feel. And you have 0:08:27.160 --> 0:08:29.880 to go back to the clubs and balls were different. 0:08:29.960 --> 0:08:35.160 So I think you could feel the impact a little 0:08:35.200 --> 0:08:40.280 bit better because a mishit just off center. You could 0:08:40.280 --> 0:08:44.959 feel it because the blades were such a smaller had 0:08:45.040 --> 0:08:47.600 such a smaller sweet spot. They were so much smaller, 0:08:48.280 --> 0:08:51.880 and the balls were softer, so you could feel where 0:08:51.880 --> 0:08:54.040 they were on the face. And so you had your 0:08:54.040 --> 0:08:56.880 own track man, and you kind of knew your own 0:08:57.520 --> 0:09:01.480 strength and weaknesses. Hopefully you did in your swing, and 0:09:01.520 --> 0:09:04.400 you knew how to adjust. And it was all about adjusting. 0:09:04.440 --> 0:09:08.120 And those who could do that more better than others 0:09:08.120 --> 0:09:09.160 were more successful. 0:09:10.280 --> 0:09:13.360 Did you through your career have like a certain feel 0:09:13.440 --> 0:09:15.600 that you were always trying to trying to get in 0:09:15.760 --> 0:09:18.240 when you were swinging and playing your best, you you 0:09:18.320 --> 0:09:21.440 were getting that specific feel and if so, what was it? 0:09:23.360 --> 0:09:27.520 Yes? I did. Again, we were We were mostly all 0:09:27.600 --> 0:09:31.080 field players. There were a few mechanical type players, but 0:09:31.880 --> 0:09:36.800 again this was before it got so mechanical and teachers 0:09:37.160 --> 0:09:41.320 changed and became way too mechanical with young kids, and 0:09:41.320 --> 0:09:46.559 that's another story for another day. But yeah, I had feels, 0:09:46.559 --> 0:09:50.280 but they changed throughout a career because your body changes 0:09:50.320 --> 0:09:54.280 throughout a career and your swing changes, so that in 0:09:54.400 --> 0:09:58.560 itself is an adjustment, not every daily adjustment, but it 0:09:58.840 --> 0:10:03.079 just you know, from from time to time. Early on, 0:10:03.360 --> 0:10:07.679 I was a big swinger, very upright, stronger griped, launched 0:10:07.679 --> 0:10:12.400 it for for in the day, so the feel was 0:10:12.920 --> 0:10:18.320 more movement from the body from the ground up to 0:10:18.360 --> 0:10:22.240 create the speed that I wanted. I was. I was 0:10:22.320 --> 0:10:25.680 reasonably accurate in those days doing that, and I didn't 0:10:25.720 --> 0:10:27.240 know it at tom but I had a good swing. 0:10:27.760 --> 0:10:30.560 I mean, my swing was online so and I didn't 0:10:30.600 --> 0:10:32.520 know anything about that stuff when I was in college. 0:10:32.559 --> 0:10:37.040 I just launched it and it went straight but and 0:10:37.040 --> 0:10:40.120 and but as you get on tour, I tried to 0:10:40.200 --> 0:10:43.080 change my swing to be more consistent. I wanted to 0:10:43.080 --> 0:10:46.120 be able to compete every day, even those days you 0:10:46.160 --> 0:10:49.640 didn't feel very well or someone was out of sorts, 0:10:50.360 --> 0:10:52.120 I still wanted to be able to get it around 0:10:52.160 --> 0:10:56.000 the golf course. So I throttled back just a little bit. 0:10:56.200 --> 0:10:58.640 I tried to tighten up a little bit. And so 0:10:58.679 --> 0:11:03.160 you so your feels changed. So my my my feel 0:11:03.679 --> 0:11:06.920 in those days when I went through this change, starting 0:11:06.960 --> 0:11:09.480 back in the early eighties, was you know, my grip 0:11:09.520 --> 0:11:11.760 got a little weaker. You know, I kind of held 0:11:11.840 --> 0:11:14.920 on almost like a block, and uh, I guess it 0:11:15.120 --> 0:11:20.160 was somewhat of a block uh through impact, But with 0:11:20.320 --> 0:11:23.120 the weak grip, it never went left. And my key 0:11:24.000 --> 0:11:26.560 looking back on it now, was that I never ever 0:11:26.679 --> 0:11:30.080 worried about the ball going left. So I basically had 0:11:30.120 --> 0:11:33.080 eliminated one side of the golf course. And you know, 0:11:33.320 --> 0:11:35.440 when I missed, it went to the right, and so 0:11:36.640 --> 0:11:40.800 I knew that and therefore I could drive it straight. 0:11:40.840 --> 0:11:43.640 I'd ironed it pretty well. But more than anything else, 0:11:43.720 --> 0:11:45.400 I eliminated one side of the golf course. 0:11:46.200 --> 0:11:49.000 Yes, one of my favorite sayings faders eat fil a 0:11:49.160 --> 0:11:50.679 and hookers eat hamburger. 0:11:51.920 --> 0:11:55.040 Well, you know it's uh when you do hook and 0:11:55.520 --> 0:11:59.319 I don't know, I don't know the last guy that 0:11:59.480 --> 0:12:02.720 hit sweeping hooks or hooks. First of all, the clubs 0:12:02.720 --> 0:12:04.880 don't allow it. The balls really don't allow it. The 0:12:05.000 --> 0:12:08.360 spinning sideways. But you know when you when you in 0:12:08.440 --> 0:12:10.400 the day, if you hit a if you hit a 0:12:10.440 --> 0:12:13.920 big draw. You know, the last guy I remember was 0:12:15.080 --> 0:12:19.040 uh sheesus what was his name? Back in Arnolds? Anyway, 0:12:19.040 --> 0:12:21.160 they used to hit draws because they released it and 0:12:21.200 --> 0:12:24.280 they wanted to get maximum distance. But if you hit it, 0:12:24.520 --> 0:12:28.200 if you released it perfectly, it drew okay. But what's 0:12:28.240 --> 0:12:30.160 the If you release it too much, it drew too 0:12:30.240 --> 0:12:32.160 much and the ball runs out. So you didn't want 0:12:32.160 --> 0:12:34.240 to do that. So the next thing you hold on 0:12:34.280 --> 0:12:35.880 a little bit and goes the right. So now you've 0:12:35.880 --> 0:12:38.800 got both sides of the golf courses going. And there 0:12:38.880 --> 0:12:43.200 was a guy that didn't neat filet Okay, when he's 0:12:43.240 --> 0:12:46.360 when he's going both ways, he's searching for that feel 0:12:46.800 --> 0:12:51.080 and when it's on, it's good. Now think about that 0:12:51.120 --> 0:12:56.480 little that little soft hang on cut that first of all, 0:12:56.679 --> 0:12:59.920 it doesn't cut as much because of the angle of attack. 0:13:00.559 --> 0:13:04.679 As a hook, it comes down softer and more than 0:13:04.800 --> 0:13:07.880 likely because you're hanging on you never miss left. I 0:13:07.920 --> 0:13:09.800 mean you might miss left once in a while. And 0:13:09.800 --> 0:13:11.599 a guy I think of in modern times as a 0:13:11.720 --> 0:13:15.760 Jordan speed, he has it kind of blocked through the ball, 0:13:16.320 --> 0:13:17.800 but he misses left once in a while. And I 0:13:17.840 --> 0:13:20.600 don't know why that are used to anyway, and I'm 0:13:20.600 --> 0:13:23.120 not picking on him, but just most of those guys 0:13:23.280 --> 0:13:26.360 have a little weaker grift that hold on don't miss left, 0:13:26.400 --> 0:13:30.079 and so therefore, you know it, it's kind of easy 0:13:30.160 --> 0:13:32.880 to control. You know, it listens a little better than 0:13:32.880 --> 0:13:33.280 that hook. 0:13:33.320 --> 0:13:36.400 They say, yeah, yeah, I think I grew up playing 0:13:36.440 --> 0:13:39.520 a draw, and you're exactly right. And then one of 0:13:39.520 --> 0:13:41.760 the best things I did was I got my game 0:13:41.800 --> 0:13:43.960 to where I just never think about hitting the ball 0:13:44.040 --> 0:13:46.120 left and I hit a little fade. And my favorite 0:13:46.160 --> 0:13:48.800 thing is when you miss, when you miss right, and 0:13:48.960 --> 0:13:51.760 with a fade, it just sits immediately. You know, you 0:13:51.840 --> 0:13:55.000 hit that high right poofball. And then if you hit 0:13:55.040 --> 0:13:57.280 the hard hook, as soon as it hits the ground, 0:13:57.360 --> 0:14:01.200 you got fifteen. It misses fifteen two yards more or left. 0:14:02.280 --> 0:14:04.960 Oh my gosh. You know, first of all, say you're 0:14:05.000 --> 0:14:06.480 hitting a five r and into a green and you 0:14:06.559 --> 0:14:08.760 hit a kind of a hard draw, it's going to 0:14:08.880 --> 0:14:10.720 run through the back left of the green every time. 0:14:10.840 --> 0:14:13.080 More than likely, if you hit it in the left 0:14:13.120 --> 0:14:15.000 center of the fairway, she's gonna run right on out 0:14:15.040 --> 0:14:18.040 of that fairway every time. So that cut doesn't And 0:14:18.320 --> 0:14:20.280 you know, when I was playing my best golf in 0:14:20.320 --> 0:14:26.000 the eighties, my I kind of hit a little straight ball, 0:14:26.040 --> 0:14:28.880 a little tiny cut. But the shot I hated with 0:14:28.960 --> 0:14:32.800 a passion was that kind of little heey cut fade. 0:14:33.680 --> 0:14:36.800 But you know the difference it it may it stayed 0:14:36.800 --> 0:14:39.760 in the faraway every time I and I won some 0:14:39.800 --> 0:14:43.520 tournaments with that horrible shot that I hated, But I 0:14:43.560 --> 0:14:46.240 could find it every time in the fairway. Yeah. 0:14:46.320 --> 0:14:49.880 Yeah, even though it's not your favorite shot, you find it. 0:14:49.880 --> 0:14:52.320 It might be twenty yards short, but you're playing from 0:14:52.360 --> 0:14:54.880 the fairway. I mean, you don't make a lot of 0:14:54.920 --> 0:14:56.040 bogies from the fairway. 0:14:57.160 --> 0:14:59.440 Well, and there's a good comment which you meant it 0:14:59.480 --> 0:15:01.160 might be a little shorter, yes, but it is in 0:15:01.240 --> 0:15:04.320 the fairway. And remember in our day, we didn't have 0:15:04.400 --> 0:15:09.960 anybody that because of the equipment. You couldn't. You just didn't. 0:15:11.040 --> 0:15:13.480 You didn't hit it farther than anybody else. I never 0:15:13.520 --> 0:15:16.600 felt like I couldn't compete against anybody because they hit 0:15:16.640 --> 0:15:18.680 it a little bit farther than I did. Because nobody 0:15:18.760 --> 0:15:21.680 launched it thirty or forty yards by you. The first 0:15:21.680 --> 0:15:23.880 guy that did that that ever came on the scene 0:15:23.920 --> 0:15:27.600 was John Daly, and those who when I was coming up, 0:15:27.640 --> 0:15:30.840 those who were maybe big six six launchers of the 0:15:30.880 --> 0:15:34.960 golf ball. You know, they weren't considered great players because 0:15:35.280 --> 0:15:37.440 they hit it so far. The balls spun so much, 0:15:37.800 --> 0:15:40.280 they didn't hit many fairways. And so that's how the 0:15:40.320 --> 0:15:41.080 game has changed. 0:15:42.360 --> 0:15:45.200 A guy that would remind me of from your era, 0:15:45.520 --> 0:15:48.240 like Dan Pole? Would that be a guy that would 0:15:48.520 --> 0:15:49.440 fit that description. 0:15:50.800 --> 0:15:53.120 You know, Dan Pole was a better strike of the 0:15:53.160 --> 0:15:55.680 ball than his career ever showed because of what we 0:15:55.680 --> 0:15:58.200 were talking about. He kind of hit a little drop 0:15:58.280 --> 0:16:01.600 fade every time he had a short swim baseball swing. 0:16:01.600 --> 0:16:04.560 He was a baseball player, very very fast hands, but 0:16:04.680 --> 0:16:07.480 kind of almost a little blocker if I remember correctly now, 0:16:09.600 --> 0:16:12.000 and so he drove the ball pretty well. I don't 0:16:12.040 --> 0:16:13.520 know if Dan was a great put or not. I 0:16:13.560 --> 0:16:17.480 don't remember, but Dan did a lot of TV when 0:16:17.480 --> 0:16:20.640 he stopped playing. But Dan Poll, here's a stat where 0:16:20.640 --> 0:16:23.240 he won the driving distance and I think it was 0:16:23.320 --> 0:16:26.240 nineteen eighty eight. Don't hold me to these facts. Nineteen 0:16:26.320 --> 0:16:29.400 eighty eight he won the driving distance on tour and 0:16:29.440 --> 0:16:32.480 his distance was like two eighty seven or too eighty eight, 0:16:32.640 --> 0:16:36.080 and that was it. I but that changed for a distance, 0:16:36.400 --> 0:16:37.600 yeah a little bit. 0:16:37.760 --> 0:16:40.840 I mean, if you're to eighty eight, your your bottom 0:16:40.880 --> 0:16:41.560 of the tour. 0:16:41.440 --> 0:16:45.560 Now bottom of the tour. And with bryceon averages three 0:16:45.560 --> 0:16:50.640 p fifty last week, seventy sixty five yards difference. That's 0:16:50.680 --> 0:16:52.360 all because. 0:16:52.160 --> 0:16:56.440 The shorter hitters in the eighties were two forty two 0:16:56.480 --> 0:16:59.120 fifty compared to to eighty. 0:17:00.240 --> 0:17:03.720 Yeah. Well I was pretty much the middle of the field, 0:17:03.920 --> 0:17:07.960 very average, maybe maybe a smission below average. And I 0:17:08.080 --> 0:17:12.040 was like two fifty five or two fifty six. And 0:17:12.680 --> 0:17:16.080 you know I made my living with with four, five 0:17:16.080 --> 0:17:19.200 and six irons. I mean, seriously, you know a four 0:17:19.359 --> 0:17:23.520 forty four fifty park par four was a four or 0:17:23.520 --> 0:17:27.560 five iron, maybe a six iron. All day long golf 0:17:27.560 --> 0:17:36.240 courses like Firestone, h Augusta was long in cases when 0:17:36.240 --> 0:17:38.640 it when it when it got cool in the spring, 0:17:40.800 --> 0:17:43.359 Pebble Beach, well, Pebble Beach went long, but there was 0:17:43.400 --> 0:17:45.240 some courses out there. I mean just there were certain 0:17:45.280 --> 0:17:48.840 golf courses. Mirefield Village in the spring when it was 0:17:48.880 --> 0:17:51.840 cool was a long golf course and it was four 0:17:51.920 --> 0:17:54.840 or five or six irons all day long, every day. 0:17:56.080 --> 0:18:01.320 Uh to Bryson, you hit on obviously, he unbelievable performance. 0:18:01.720 --> 0:18:04.560 You know, goes mist and beyond the three fifty drives 0:18:04.760 --> 0:18:06.680 was the incredible putting. 0:18:06.400 --> 0:18:10.240 You know what. I He's been the talk of every 0:18:10.280 --> 0:18:12.760 golf for the last really kind of a couple of 0:18:12.800 --> 0:18:17.719 two or three weeks, and especially after this week. You know, 0:18:17.760 --> 0:18:24.440 there's there's First of all, I think he's showing the world. 0:18:24.840 --> 0:18:28.640 Now I'm a titlest guy. Okay, I'm a titless ball guy. 0:18:28.880 --> 0:18:32.439 And I've always been very careful on, you know, saying 0:18:33.359 --> 0:18:36.240 talking about the ball because they don't they used to 0:18:36.280 --> 0:18:39.520 pay me, so you can't criticize the hand that feature. 0:18:39.600 --> 0:18:43.119 But the point of the fact is he's showing the 0:18:43.680 --> 0:18:46.879 world of golf that it's just not all about the 0:18:46.920 --> 0:18:49.200 golf ball and the driver. Now it's a big part 0:18:49.240 --> 0:18:52.040 of it, trust me, a huge part of it, the 0:18:52.160 --> 0:18:55.280 majority part of it. But the part of the equation 0:18:55.640 --> 0:19:00.840 that has never gotten enough attention in this ball that 0:19:00.960 --> 0:19:04.159 goes so far is the ability of these kids and 0:19:04.200 --> 0:19:07.600 the speed that they create, okay, and the accuracy in 0:19:07.640 --> 0:19:11.000 which they hit it with the speed. I walked for 0:19:11.240 --> 0:19:14.240 Fox the last four years on the in the US Open. 0:19:14.280 --> 0:19:17.840 I've seen it firsthand. I saw Dustin Johnson carry the 0:19:17.920 --> 0:19:22.400 three wood at arian Aaron Hill's three forty three point 0:19:22.400 --> 0:19:25.119 thirty something up the hill on the last hall of 0:19:25.119 --> 0:19:28.639 the Freewood one day. I mean, it's incredible stuff. But 0:19:28.720 --> 0:19:31.359 when you see what Bryson has done, He's gone from 0:19:31.840 --> 0:19:36.359 you know, a nice hitter, you know, a nice plenty 0:19:36.400 --> 0:19:42.600 of length to putting on muscle, gaining speed. But more 0:19:42.680 --> 0:19:45.639 so than anything else, Now I'm not a physicist, but 0:19:46.080 --> 0:19:48.919 it's the mass that he's moving. It's the forty pounds 0:19:49.320 --> 0:19:52.199 that he's put on that I never knew about. But 0:19:52.280 --> 0:19:55.359 when you add masks and speed, the ball will go farther. 0:19:55.520 --> 0:19:58.720 It's not about flexibility more. It's not all about strength. 0:19:59.359 --> 0:20:02.200 It's about the mass and moving that mass and having 0:20:02.240 --> 0:20:04.879 the strength to support it. Now, some of you might 0:20:04.880 --> 0:20:07.280 have proved me wrong in what I just said, but 0:20:07.440 --> 0:20:10.440 it looks like that's what it is to me. And 0:20:10.800 --> 0:20:13.879 plus he's trying to hit it bloody hard every time, 0:20:14.359 --> 0:20:16.439 but he's driving it. I saw it this morning. He's 0:20:16.480 --> 0:20:19.640 hitting sixty three percent of the fairways or something that's 0:20:19.680 --> 0:20:22.000 good on a on a normal for a normal person, 0:20:22.160 --> 0:20:26.600 seventy percent was very accurate on tour. And so he's 0:20:26.720 --> 0:20:29.760 proven all these people wrong that said it was just 0:20:29.800 --> 0:20:32.760 about the golf ball driver. It's about the athleticism of 0:20:32.840 --> 0:20:36.280 these players and the speed in which they create and 0:20:38.359 --> 0:20:42.160 he kind of marveling I do. Okay, he's a little different. Well, 0:20:42.160 --> 0:20:44.280 we're all a little different. Okay, we're all type a 0:20:44.480 --> 0:20:49.480 different ego maniacs and very we're ego maniacs on tour, 0:20:50.040 --> 0:20:53.000 and we're also the most insecure individuals on the planet 0:20:53.040 --> 0:20:57.119 with our golf poings. So that if that isn't a contradition, 0:20:57.560 --> 0:21:02.840 but it's he he's kind of figured something out here. 0:21:03.480 --> 0:21:05.920 And don't think you might not have somebody else try 0:21:06.000 --> 0:21:07.960 the same thing in the next year or two or three, 0:21:09.040 --> 0:21:12.400 because it seems to work. My question, I have two 0:21:12.440 --> 0:21:14.600 questions with this. I'm rambling now, but I have two 0:21:14.640 --> 0:21:18.479 questions with Bryce. One when you try to hit it 0:21:18.560 --> 0:21:22.800 so hard every time? How long would that last? Okay, 0:21:23.080 --> 0:21:25.119 now all it has to last is eight years, and 0:21:25.119 --> 0:21:28.280 then he'll blee be you know, maybe a twenty five 0:21:28.359 --> 0:21:31.280 time winner, thirty time winner and five majors, who knows 0:21:31.280 --> 0:21:33.480 what's going to be, what the future holds for him. 0:21:34.000 --> 0:21:41.359 But the other thing is, well, it is Will's body. 0:21:41.359 --> 0:21:44.480 Hold up, Oh, I know the short game. When you 0:21:44.520 --> 0:21:47.440 put on this mass and you change your body structure, 0:21:48.040 --> 0:21:50.920 do you change your feel? I don't know. I think 0:21:50.960 --> 0:21:54.440 your feel is born within you. It's bred within you, 0:21:54.920 --> 0:21:58.560 so it might change a smidgeon. But some people will 0:21:58.600 --> 0:22:00.600 question that will it change is for you? I don't. 0:22:00.640 --> 0:22:03.119 I don't know the answer to that because my body 0:22:03.160 --> 0:22:06.719 never changed. But if it does, you'll have to contend 0:22:06.720 --> 0:22:08.320 with that. But you know, he's a smart enough guy. 0:22:08.359 --> 0:22:11.720 He'll he'll take care of every every stone will go 0:22:12.160 --> 0:22:14.600 will be unturned with Bryce, And trust me. 0:22:15.480 --> 0:22:19.000 Yeah, I think you hit the accuracy is unbelievable. And 0:22:19.040 --> 0:22:21.560 I think you know, one of the things that gets 0:22:21.600 --> 0:22:24.880 lost a little bit with the distance debate is that. 0:22:24.720 --> 0:22:30.080 Well, with accuracy, and with accuracy I always thought, now 0:22:30.200 --> 0:22:32.439 within control. But the harder you hit it the straighter, 0:22:32.480 --> 0:22:34.359 you should hit it with a driver because everything is 0:22:34.400 --> 0:22:37.919 straightened out. Okay, if you're in control. I you know, 0:22:37.960 --> 0:22:40.600 whenever you start to get manipulative and hit it's eighty 0:22:40.640 --> 0:22:45.359 percent or seventy five percent, that's when you your body doesn't react, 0:22:46.000 --> 0:22:49.320 you're putting it in positions. But when you swing ninety 0:22:49.760 --> 0:22:53.040 ninety five percent, everything straightens out an impact, And if 0:22:53.119 --> 0:22:56.359 you have a good swing, a good grip, a swing 0:22:56.400 --> 0:22:58.600 that's on plane, it should go just the straightest it's 0:22:58.640 --> 0:23:01.640 ever going to go. And so yeah, as long as 0:23:01.680 --> 0:23:04.879