1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:02,880 Speaker 1: Ron and Anian can hybrid and electric vehicles were dangerous 2 00:00:02,880 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 1: to work on. Next sentence one word absolutely, yeah, the 3 00:00:14,520 --> 00:00:17,279 Speaker 1: Car Doctor. We can't be that stupid that we're gonna 4 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:20,360 Speaker 1: mount radar detect radar emitting devices into the front of 5 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:23,320 Speaker 1: a vehicle and then it's following the vehicle from behind 6 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:25,160 Speaker 1: in the front. Are we being bombarded by radar with 7 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 1: now that that we could be that dumb could be? 8 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:31,240 Speaker 1: Welcome to the radio home of Ron and Anien the 9 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 1: Car Doctor. Since this is where car owners the world 10 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:40,319 Speaker 1: overturned to for their definitive opinion on automotive repair. If 11 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 1: your mechanics giving you a busy signal, pick up the 12 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:46,480 Speaker 1: phone and call in the garage to ortis are open, 13 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:48,639 Speaker 1: but I am here to take your call at eight 14 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 1: five five five six and now he running. Hey. Welcome 15 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 1: to the Father's Day edition of The Car Doctor of 16 00:00:57,760 --> 00:01:00,279 Speaker 1: the second hour this weekend as we can it called 17 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 1: Father's Day, and help celebrate that and all that the 18 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 1: dads do and all that the moms do in place 19 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 1: of dad's to help help take care of the kids 20 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:11,759 Speaker 1: and be the be the inspiration and be the way 21 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 1: forward for so many generations. Um just uh always good 22 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 1: to have a dad around in some way, shape or form. 23 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:20,480 Speaker 1: Let's kick this hour off right off the bat and 24 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:23,039 Speaker 1: let's go over to Audrey in Virginia. And keep in 25 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:25,319 Speaker 1: mind we're giving away a twenty five gift card today 26 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:28,040 Speaker 1: for Orilly out of Parts. We're gonna do it this hour. 27 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 1: So let's go see what Audre's got to say in 28 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:32,039 Speaker 1: Virginia and let's see if we can help her in 29 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:37,679 Speaker 1: her Ford Mustang. Audrey, Welcome to the Car Doctor. You're welcome. 30 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 1: What's going on? Um? Well, I got a new battery 31 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 1: put in my car. Well, actually, um, someone who come 32 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 1: came to jump started said that it didn't look like 33 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 1: a new battery, but the jump started it anyway. And 34 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 1: I've been having problems where I wait a few days, 35 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 1: I go out to my car. I'm retired, so I 36 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 1: don't drive my car every day, and I go to 37 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:16,959 Speaker 1: started and it's dead. And I've had it jump started 38 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 1: at least twice. And um, I was told by the 39 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:26,920 Speaker 1: place where I bought the the battery that it could 40 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 1: possibly be the alternator. Well, listen, it could be something 41 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:35,520 Speaker 1: between the headlights and the tail lights. Until they diagnosed that, 42 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:38,240 Speaker 1: nobody really knows. Did you have the problem. Did you 43 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 1: have the problem with the old battery in the car? Okay, so, 44 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:46,520 Speaker 1: how long since the old battery was replaced and the 45 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:48,960 Speaker 1: new battery put into the problem? Start? Did it start 46 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:56,079 Speaker 1: right away? Um? Well sort of. I had the new battery, 47 00:02:56,240 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 1: so called new battery put in on May a, just 48 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 1: last month, and uh, my neighbor helped me and he said, 49 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:10,079 Speaker 1: started up, and it started right up, no hesitation at all. 50 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 1: And then uh, I went to try it on May eighteenth, 51 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 1: and it was dead. I think that was kind of 52 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:23,240 Speaker 1: my fault because I waited too long. But so then 53 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 1: I m on the I had it jump started and um, 54 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:34,520 Speaker 1: get started up, and I ran it for about fifteen 55 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 1: minutes and uh and just left it at that And 56 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 1: five days later, I thought I'd better go started up 57 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 1: again on June two, and it was dead as a 58 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 1: door knob, nothing, not even any clicks. No, no discredit 59 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 1: to your neighbor or his efforts or anybody trying to 60 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 1: put a battery in this vehicle. One of the things, 61 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 1: one of the things that professional can do and should 62 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 1: do whenever they replace a battery is to consider do 63 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 1: they need to do a draw test, A current draw 64 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 1: test for battery replacements, so you avoid scenarios like this 65 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 1: because now you've got you know, is it the battery 66 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:18,160 Speaker 1: or is it the vehicle? Did something change in the vehicle? 67 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 1: Could you have a bad new battery? Sure, new means 68 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:24,279 Speaker 1: never ever worked in my world, you know. But a 69 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:27,720 Speaker 1: current draw test where they're gonna measure to see if 70 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 1: there is any current draw something pulling electrically out of 71 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 1: the battery while it's sitting there, would do you a 72 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:37,040 Speaker 1: world of good. The second thing I would I would 73 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:39,279 Speaker 1: tell you to look at is you know what brand 74 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 1: of battery? Was it? Just out of curiosity, Uh, it's okay. 75 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 1: And they're decent batteries. I mean batteries today. You know, 76 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 1: most of them are pretty good. If it's one of 77 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:54,919 Speaker 1: the name brands. The majority of batteries are you know, 78 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 1: out of the probably a dozen and a half brands 79 00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:00,240 Speaker 1: of batteries on the market today, there may eat it 80 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 1: one of three or two I think it's two now, 81 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:06,359 Speaker 1: two battery plants in the continental United States, because you know, 82 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 1: it's not that they're spread out all over the place. 83 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:10,840 Speaker 1: Everybody contracts out um. Just to show you how the 84 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:14,000 Speaker 1: how the industry is working, we ordered a case of 85 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:17,720 Speaker 1: motorcraft fl nine tens oil filters. The other day they 86 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 1: came to us and the shipping label said from Pure Later. 87 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 1: So Pure Later is making motorcraft oil filters. I was 88 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:29,280 Speaker 1: just wow, uh, you know which I kind of suspected, 89 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 1: because the oil filter companies everybody's making, you know, everybody 90 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:36,599 Speaker 1: else's filters today. Everybody's making everybody else's batteries. That being said, 91 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:39,720 Speaker 1: I'd be curious what the date code on this battery is. 92 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 1: How old is this battery? Was this battery sitting on 93 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:44,839 Speaker 1: the shelf in the parts house where you got it 94 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:46,840 Speaker 1: hasn't been sitting there for any length of time? And 95 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 1: did they rotate the stock around for that matter? Does 96 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:53,160 Speaker 1: this battery need to be charged? Never assume a battery 97 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 1: you buy off the parts store shelf, especially going into 98 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 1: a car that's gonna sit for a length of time, 99 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 1: it's chart is charged to the proper level. Fifteen minutes 100 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:08,479 Speaker 1: of running the car isn't enough forty five minutes to 101 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 1: an hour, forty five minutes to an hour, forty fifty 102 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 1: miles an hour, reasonable highway speeds, minimal amount of accessories 103 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 1: on to put some kind of a charge into that. 104 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 1: Does the car sit. Does the car sit outside or inside? 105 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 1: Audrey outside? Okay. You know, one of the things you 106 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 1: may want to consider if you're retired now and you're 107 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 1: not going to be driving at all that much, is 108 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:38,479 Speaker 1: there are devices out there, for example, like solar battery chargers. 109 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 1: It would it would, it would lay on the dashboard, Okay, 110 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 1: it would plug into the O B two O B 111 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 1: D two diagnostic port. Or you could just direct connected 112 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:51,040 Speaker 1: to the battery, just run the cables the wires under 113 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 1: the hood and it would just receive enough of a 114 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 1: trickle charge to help maintain the battery. But I kind 115 00:06:57,800 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 1: of don't want to do that until I know there's 116 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:04,719 Speaker 1: no problem in the vehicle. I would prefer mechanic to 117 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 1: do a current draw test. Okay, do you understand what 118 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 1: I mean when I say current draw test, Audrey, a 119 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 1: current droadcast testing the battery of voltage and all that. Yeah, 120 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 1: you know, it's sort of like did you ever wonder 121 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 1: if the lights on in your refrigerator when you close 122 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 1: the door. Oh, I know it's not. Well, it may 123 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 1: be right, but we there now I've opened my refrigerator 124 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 1: door and click on that thing and the light goes out. 125 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 1: So you know it goes out ba. See, we don't 126 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 1: know that in the car, and a draw test will 127 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 1: tell us if there's a bull bond pulling current and 128 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 1: draining the battery. That's why that's important, all right, And 129 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 1: that's why you know, it's I get it. We're you know, 130 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 1: we're trying to you know, cut corners and we're looking 131 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 1: for honesty and mechanics. And sometimes maybe it's not about 132 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 1: spending money to repair shop. Maybe we just don't know 133 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 1: where to go. Uh, you know, and that's and that's 134 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 1: the bigger issue. I think a lot of cases, I 135 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 1: would say that, you know, we've got to find a shop, 136 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 1: somebody competent. Hey, can you do a current draw test? 137 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 1: You know it's going to take them half hour or 138 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 1: forty five minutes maybe to start to finish because they've 139 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 1: got to go through the electrical system, alternators, starter and 140 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 1: so forth. But to just say this, to just say 141 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 1: the alternator's bad because the battery is going dead, you know, 142 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 1: we're guessing. It's just a possibility. It's just a possibility. 143 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 1: It's just one of the things on the list. So um, 144 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 1: this the second time that I had my card jumps 145 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 1: started on actually this past Wednesday. Um, I didn't run 146 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:42,840 Speaker 1: it for about fifty minutes because the guy that said 147 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:46,200 Speaker 1: you let it run for about fifty minutes. So I 148 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 1: did that exactly. And when I came back out on 149 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:55,440 Speaker 1: five days later on June second, it was it was 150 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 1: like it was trying to turn over and it just 151 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:02,079 Speaker 1: would not okay, and time me I got the clicking 152 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 1: noise and I'm like, well again, it's dead again. So 153 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:08,120 Speaker 1: and that's and that's what the draw test will tell you. 154 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 1: You know what, are you stay on the line, Tom 155 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:12,080 Speaker 1: is gonna be getting your information. We're gonna be sending 156 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 1: out that twenty five dollar gift card to Riley Oto 157 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 1: Parts Rileyoto dot Com. Ahead, I'll tell you what you 158 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:21,520 Speaker 1: don't have to do that. We want father passed away 159 00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:24,960 Speaker 1: away back in well. But you know what, we we 160 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 1: want to do that because we want to help you out. 161 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 1: And uh, you know you're probably a father and a 162 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 1: mentor to somebody. UM I can tell um just listening 163 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 1: to you, and this way you can possibly go down 164 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:38,680 Speaker 1: to your local Orillyoto parts. And it's very sweet of 165 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 1: you to say that, but I can listen. I can 166 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:43,440 Speaker 1: tell a good father image when I hear one and um, 167 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 1: you know it'll help you out. You can go down 168 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:47,440 Speaker 1: there and pick out maybe a solar charger for the car, 169 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 1: or if you need another battery or something along those lines. 170 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 1: So stay on the line. Let Tom get your information. 171 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 1: We'll get that twenty five gift card to rally Oto 172 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 1: parts coming your way, and you'd be well, dear. And 173 00:09:56,760 --> 00:09:58,440 Speaker 1: if you need any more information, you give us a 174 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 1: call F zero zero running any of the car doctor 175 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:19,600 Speaker 1: coming back right after this. Got number time right it 176 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 1: on the wall, so you don't forget to call for 177 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:26,200 Speaker 1: car advice. Done right? Eight five five five zero zero zero. 178 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:31,960 Speaker 1: Now back to raw. Hey, let's uh, Audrey is still here? Audrey? 179 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:34,560 Speaker 1: Do you miss me already? No? No, she's not there 180 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 1: is Audrey there? Tom though, Okay, let's let me go 181 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:39,680 Speaker 1: back to my I was gonna read this email that 182 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 1: I've got. Um, I'm talking about one in five electric 183 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 1: vehicle owners. Did you see this article? It's it's kind 184 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 1: of all over the place, written by Dominic Reuter. One 185 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 1: in five electric vehicle owners in California switched back to 186 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:53,600 Speaker 1: gas because charging their cars as a hassle, research shows, 187 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 1: And the article starts out, and you know it makes 188 00:10:56,800 --> 00:10:58,559 Speaker 1: sense right, and roughly three minutes you can fill the 189 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:00,559 Speaker 1: gas tank of a Ford Mustang and enough rain to 190 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 1: go about three miles. But the electric Mustang it goes on. 191 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 1: That says it just now we're plugged into a household outlet, 192 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 1: will gave. And it did. They took Bloomberg Automotive analyst 193 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 1: Kevin Tynan just three miles of rain, so after an 194 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:16,679 Speaker 1: hour of charging through a household outlet. And part of 195 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 1: the issue is that they're finding that, you know, there's 196 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 1: level one, there's level two, and then there's the supercharged 197 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:26,680 Speaker 1: version of a Tesla charger. Here is the article talked about. 198 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 1: Standard home outlets generally deliver a hun and twenty volts 199 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 1: powering on electric vehicle afficionados called level one charging, while 200 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 1: the higher powered specialty connections at two forty volts are 201 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 1: known as level two. Testless superchargers can fully charge its 202 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 1: cars in a little over an hour running on four 203 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:44,560 Speaker 1: indred eighty vaults. You know, Audrey, that was just on 204 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 1: the show. Sounded a little older, right, Audrey was probably 205 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:51,119 Speaker 1: I'm gonna guess and say in her in her seventies 206 00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 1: or eighties, she's gonna deal with charging an electric vehicle. Um, 207 00:11:57,040 --> 00:11:59,559 Speaker 1: maybe she's driving a ninety eight Mustang. She's a pretty 208 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:02,680 Speaker 1: hyplop a little lady, I guess at that point, But um, 209 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:05,320 Speaker 1: you know, you have to say to yourself, where is 210 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 1: the convenience and what is the convenience? I don't know 211 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 1: if people will want to deal with it, and evidently 212 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 1: they're not. This article is talking about how people that 213 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:16,920 Speaker 1: are driving electric vehicles are also wanted to go back 214 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:19,679 Speaker 1: to a gas powered vehicle because of the uh, you know, 215 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:23,199 Speaker 1: because of the inconvenience of trying to charge an electric 216 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 1: vehicle and room range issues. Of those who switched se 217 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 1: lacked access to level two charging at home, the article continued, 218 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 1: and slightly fewer than that like level two connections at 219 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 1: their workplace. If you don't have level two, it's almost impossible, 220 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:38,839 Speaker 1: said Tynan, who has tested a wide range of makes 221 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:41,560 Speaker 1: and vehicles over the years for his research. Even with 222 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 1: the faster charging, a Chevy Boulti tested needed nearly six 223 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 1: hours to bring its range back up to three miles 224 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 1: from empty, something that makes them takes them just minutes 225 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:53,560 Speaker 1: at the pump with his family suv A And this 226 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 1: is the part I don't get that we're gonna still 227 00:12:56,000 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 1: try and do this. You know, I've said this before. 228 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:04,320 Speaker 1: Were right. Cars were meant to be mass transportation devices. 229 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:08,200 Speaker 1: They were meant to you know, feed the masses. And 230 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:11,080 Speaker 1: part of the reason why internal combustion engines came about 231 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 1: was because of truth be told, I've talked about this 232 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 1: because of the horse maneure problem in the big cities, 233 00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 1: because horses were the method of transportation at the turn 234 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 1: of the eighteen hundreds into the nineteen hundreds, and it 235 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 1: was a health issue, a sewage problem, and everybody's walking 236 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 1: down the street with manure piles, and we just wanted 237 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 1: to get away into something basic, basic transportation. Cars weren't 238 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 1: envisioned that they're gonna have heated seeds, heated cup holders, 239 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:38,080 Speaker 1: video games and all the things that cars have now 240 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:42,960 Speaker 1: and the electronics. Uh, you know, the electric vehicle is 241 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:45,560 Speaker 1: just taking it to the next level. And how many 242 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 1: of the average consumer are going to be able to 243 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:50,720 Speaker 1: or want to be able to deal with that? And 244 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 1: that's what this article points out. Um, so it's uh, 245 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:57,120 Speaker 1: it's interesting, and then goes on and talks about, uh, 246 00:13:57,160 --> 00:13:59,680 Speaker 1: public charging stations may look like the electric version of 247 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 1: the gas station, but nearly two thirds of drivers in 248 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:05,960 Speaker 1: the survey said they didn't use them. Exactly why they 249 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 1: didn't use the public stols is not specified. Electric vehicles, 250 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:10,960 Speaker 1: the article continues, have come a long way in recent 251 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:13,080 Speaker 1: years in terms of range, safety, and comfort. Sure, no 252 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:15,720 Speaker 1: argument they have to come a great long way, but 253 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:18,840 Speaker 1: it's been noted that very little change has been happened 254 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 1: in how they are recharged. Researchers warned this trend could 255 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 1: make it harder to achieve electric vehicle sales targets in 256 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 1: California and other countries and growth of the market overall. Well, 257 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:31,880 Speaker 1: I think that's goes without saying. You know, listen, I'm 258 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:35,200 Speaker 1: gonna make a public statement. I don't think electric vehicles 259 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 1: on a wholesale level, on across the board level, is 260 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 1: going to occur in fifteen years. I think there's another 261 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 1: game of foot I think they're looking to get us 262 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 1: to want to change a percentage of the population of 263 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 1: the vehicle fleet so it becomes five or ten percent 264 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 1: electric vehicles, where it becomes higher use in areas where 265 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 1: there's more pollution and urban issues, smog and things like that. 266 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 1: But to make everybody into an electric vehicle in fifteen years, 267 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 1: And this article is kind of backing that up. I 268 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 1: don't think we have the technology and I don't think 269 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 1: they've got the ability to uh to produce the technology, 270 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 1: Jams said. A target of an electric fleet by by 271 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:17,960 Speaker 1: well Ford recently unveiled. It's in quotes, game changing lightning 272 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 1: F one fifty electric pickup truck and prioritize production of 273 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 1: its electric mustangs to continue. Um, you know we had 274 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 1: a call two weeks ago. Was it two weeks ago? 275 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 1: We had a caller that called in and talk to 276 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 1: us about and he brought up a good point. So 277 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:40,640 Speaker 1: an electric f one fifty, if you're towing a trailer 278 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:44,960 Speaker 1: with it, is your range going to be shortened? Or 279 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 1: if you're plowing snow, is your range going to be 280 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:51,920 Speaker 1: shortened because everything is going to be working harder? So 281 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 1: how do you calculate for that? And that makes an 282 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:58,840 Speaker 1: interesting point. Are you going to if plow vehicles are 283 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:01,080 Speaker 1: going to be electric vehicles? Listen, when I'm out in 284 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:02,680 Speaker 1: the plow truck and you're trying to keep ahead of 285 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:05,400 Speaker 1: the storm, you pull into a gas station, charge the 286 00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:08,440 Speaker 1: truck you are, charge the truck filled truck up with 287 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:11,400 Speaker 1: gas and and drive out and you're you're ready in 288 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:14,360 Speaker 1: ten minutes with an electric vehicle. Are you going to 289 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 1: be sitting there an hour at best? Right? They say 290 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:21,720 Speaker 1: Tesla can charge their vehicles in an hour. In an hour. 291 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 1: I don't get it. I don't see it. I just 292 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 1: there's there's something of uh, something wrong with this picture. Um, 293 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 1: so just just stay tuned. More to come. Another article 294 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 1: that came out that the case one came to us 295 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:37,240 Speaker 1: via research Kathy, she's out doing her job again sending 296 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:40,760 Speaker 1: me too much information. Talks about how drum brakes are 297 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 1: going to be the way forward for electric vehicles because 298 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 1: old fashioned drum brakes maybe the way to create regenitive 299 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 1: breaking due to their low cost, their lack of complexity, 300 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 1: their corrosion resistance, and they're an excellent model for regenitive breaking. 301 00:16:57,600 --> 00:17:02,320 Speaker 1: This article, uh came to us via auto I think 302 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:04,640 Speaker 1: I'm trying to give credit to the article here autoblog 303 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:08,879 Speaker 1: dot com. Um, uh, you can just find it. Just 304 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:10,879 Speaker 1: get out to autoblog dot com and look up the 305 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 1: y old fishing drum brakes may be the way of 306 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 1: the future. Um. Drum brakes are an original technology that 307 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 1: around almosts long as cars have. The article starts out 308 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 1: first developed in this style of break can be found 309 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:23,679 Speaker 1: on some of the very first automotive prototypes if they 310 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:26,479 Speaker 1: gain fooling out of favor with watermakers in the mid sixties, 311 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:31,400 Speaker 1: when shorter stopping this brake systems became widespread UH systems. 312 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:35,119 Speaker 1: These particular brake systems are more powerful and faster stopping 313 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:37,960 Speaker 1: than drums, and are quite necessary as front brakes with 314 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 1: many cars. They require six of slowing the vehicle's momentum 315 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 1: compared to the rear, which is why you'll never find 316 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:45,200 Speaker 1: a new car with front drums anymore. Um, it's true, 317 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:48,800 Speaker 1: and I wonder, you know we're gonna go back to 318 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:51,679 Speaker 1: drum brakes. What that weight's going to do? You know, 319 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:56,480 Speaker 1: I really believe that the electric vehicle future is there, 320 00:17:57,119 --> 00:18:01,280 Speaker 1: but to a large degree people all are, well, it's 321 00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:02,840 Speaker 1: gonna be a little bit of a mystery. We'll see 322 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:05,800 Speaker 1: what they do and see what really happens going forward. 323 00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 1: I think, Um, I don't think they're telling us everything 324 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:10,680 Speaker 1: we need to know. So that being said, I'm running 325 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 1: any of the car doctor, We're gonna pull over and 326 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:51,480 Speaker 1: take a pause. I'll be back right after this. Welcome back, 327 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:54,000 Speaker 1: weren't any of the car doctor. Tom had an interesting 328 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 1: comment about electric vehicles. He just pointed out to me 329 00:18:56,680 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 1: during the break that he travels from New or New York, 330 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:03,639 Speaker 1: which is, I don't know, forty five minutes outside of 331 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:06,119 Speaker 1: New York City up the New York State Thruway, but 332 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:07,920 Speaker 1: when he goes to Buffalo, he has to stop three 333 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 1: quarters of the way to gas up. What's he gonna 334 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:12,239 Speaker 1: do with an electric vehicle in terms of, you know, 335 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:15,800 Speaker 1: it won't make it, it doesn't have the range, and 336 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:18,840 Speaker 1: does it You're gonna have additional cost added onto his 337 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:20,840 Speaker 1: trip so that he passes it on to his client. 338 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:23,600 Speaker 1: Is it actually gonna cost us more money? And that's 339 00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:27,280 Speaker 1: an interesting point because how will we will it change? 340 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:31,359 Speaker 1: Will the electric vehicle future change the cosmetics and the 341 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 1: makeup of the country in the sense that you know, 342 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 1: I remember traveling with dad, you know, taking family vacations 343 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:42,560 Speaker 1: and different destinations in the road trip to nowhere where 344 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:44,439 Speaker 1: you would always stop it it was holiday inn and 345 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:47,199 Speaker 1: Howard Johnson's, and you would guess up once during the 346 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:48,520 Speaker 1: day and once at the end of the day. So 347 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:50,159 Speaker 1: you're gonna have to change it to where you're just 348 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:52,840 Speaker 1: gonna charge up once at the end of the day 349 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:55,440 Speaker 1: and stay wherever you are for the night, So will 350 00:19:55,480 --> 00:20:00,119 Speaker 1: electric charging stations be sprouting up on the interstates? And 351 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:04,240 Speaker 1: if you think about it, interstates are far from what civilization. 352 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 1: So are we gonna have to truck in the electric 353 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:09,920 Speaker 1: charge electricity over power lines. We're gonna have to build 354 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:12,760 Speaker 1: all new charging stations to reach these remote locations where 355 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:15,720 Speaker 1: the interstates go. That we're gonna be able to do 356 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:18,560 Speaker 1: that in order to charge the vehicles. It just doesn't 357 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:21,520 Speaker 1: make any sense to me. Um, I just keep thinking 358 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:23,480 Speaker 1: about it. I just I just want to see how 359 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:27,200 Speaker 1: they do that. Um, you know, uh doing it? Yeah. 360 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:29,359 Speaker 1: And then Tom also made a comment about the article 361 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:31,960 Speaker 1: about people in California are buying gas cars after driving 362 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:34,560 Speaker 1: an electric vehicle. Well, yeah, because they're not charging. What's 363 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:36,480 Speaker 1: going on in Texas this week? Right? Wasn't there something 364 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:38,920 Speaker 1: in Texas this week that because of the heat wave 365 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:41,240 Speaker 1: there isn't anough electricity to run all the air conditioners 366 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:44,360 Speaker 1: in California is already going through it. And what we're 367 00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:48,720 Speaker 1: going to magically produce electric enough electricity to get electric 368 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 1: vehicles recharged, and and everybody's gonna be in the electric 369 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:54,720 Speaker 1: vehicle because they won't have air conditioning in their house. 370 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:57,160 Speaker 1: Because they won't be able to turn it on. Um, 371 00:20:57,320 --> 00:21:00,240 Speaker 1: we should get James Labrec back on to UK to 372 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 1: us more about, you know, the electric vehicle future and 373 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:05,680 Speaker 1: where that's going. I still think about his comments from 374 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:08,359 Speaker 1: his interview two months ago where he said that in 375 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:10,680 Speaker 1: the state of Maine, if the state of Maine went 376 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:14,960 Speaker 1: all electric vehicle now in this current day, at the 377 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:18,719 Speaker 1: current vehicle registration rate, they would have to build seven 378 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:23,160 Speaker 1: nuclear power plants, and that that statistic just stuck with me, 379 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:26,240 Speaker 1: that they have to build seven nuclear power plants to 380 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:30,320 Speaker 1: generate enough electricity to one point twenty one jiggawatts of 381 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:33,919 Speaker 1: electricity in order to uh, you know, charge the fleet. 382 00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:38,280 Speaker 1: That in the one about um uh what was it 383 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:42,520 Speaker 1: about twelve billion billion with a b pounds of batteries 384 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:44,200 Speaker 1: that have to be recycled every year, and he said, 385 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 1: don't worry about it. We don't We don't have enough 386 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 1: with him to make twelve billion pounds of batteries right now. 387 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:52,960 Speaker 1: So I just don't see it old school technology. We 388 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:55,760 Speaker 1: had a sixty six where I'm still working on. As 389 00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:58,080 Speaker 1: a matter of fact, we've got a sixty six Cadillac 390 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:01,800 Speaker 1: El Dorado in the shop this week and we're dealing 391 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:04,400 Speaker 1: with some break pulling issues that developed. The car went 392 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:06,680 Speaker 1: about a hundred and eighty two miles in the past 393 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:09,120 Speaker 1: seven years. It's been sitting a lot in the owner 394 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 1: doesn't drive it a whole lot. Yeah, I think about 395 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:14,359 Speaker 1: that eighty two miles in the past seven years, and 396 00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:16,199 Speaker 1: we're dealing with a brake pole that we're kind of 397 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:18,240 Speaker 1: picking our way through and and and solving. At the 398 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:21,720 Speaker 1: hardest part is finding parts because no pun intended, it's 399 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:25,280 Speaker 1: it's just difficult. There's just not a lot of stuff 400 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 1: out there anymore. And you know, going through and found 401 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:32,440 Speaker 1: the set of wheel cylinders. Thank god Dorman reproduced them. 402 00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 1: So we're putting some dormant wheel cylinders in this. We're 403 00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:36,600 Speaker 1: gonna take the originals and send them out and get 404 00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:39,080 Speaker 1: them breast sleeved so he'll have a he'll have a 405 00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 1: backup set and uh, he can use those if he 406 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:44,760 Speaker 1: wants in the future as well. But getting parts for 407 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:48,800 Speaker 1: the older vehicles is tough. But it's sort of a 408 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:52,480 Speaker 1: lesson in manufacturing when you look at an old car. 409 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:54,439 Speaker 1: The next time you're at a car show, look at 410 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:59,200 Speaker 1: that old car, look at the detail. There's a little 411 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:02,439 Speaker 1: emblem on the act rear quarter of this sixties SI 412 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 1: Cadillac El Dorado. The Cadillac um I quality is spree 413 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 1: to core. The colored flag logo of you know, that's 414 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:14,960 Speaker 1: that with the Cadillac symbol for years and years it 415 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:17,080 Speaker 1: was on all the Caddies. And then it's got the 416 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:20,719 Speaker 1: the the the the wreath, the chrome reef tied around 417 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:23,640 Speaker 1: it too. To make all that, to make all these 418 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:29,119 Speaker 1: components in parts, you know, the the the the dye 419 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:34,000 Speaker 1: makers that you know, painlessly and forever just sat there 420 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 1: and etched out the molds to produce these parts. And 421 00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:40,760 Speaker 1: we don't do it anymore. Everything's just stamped out. Everything 422 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:44,600 Speaker 1: is plastic, everything is recycled, everything is throw away. Um 423 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:47,359 Speaker 1: just a grand period. I think that's the attraction for 424 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:50,639 Speaker 1: old cars too. I'm learning that that it's just it 425 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:53,000 Speaker 1: just doesn't take you back to a place where you were, 426 00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:56,919 Speaker 1: but it shows you the manufacturing capability of the country 427 00:23:56,960 --> 00:24:00,360 Speaker 1: at the time and the depth of detail that went 428 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:04,960 Speaker 1: into making a car. Um just just absolutely crazy stuff. 429 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:07,399 Speaker 1: So I'm just just something to point out. The next 430 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:09,320 Speaker 1: time he had a car show, take a look at, 431 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:12,160 Speaker 1: you know, appreciate the car for the piece of jewelry. 432 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:14,200 Speaker 1: That it might be because some of these dash boards 433 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:17,480 Speaker 1: are just so magnificent. We've had a few air conditioning 434 00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 1: jobs run through the shop in the past couple of 435 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:23,200 Speaker 1: weeks too, and it's interesting. Somewhere just straight up recharges. 436 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:26,320 Speaker 1: They lost anywhere from two to seven or eight ounces 437 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:29,439 Speaker 1: of refrigerant. It wasn't a big deal. But we've had 438 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:33,000 Speaker 1: a bad blend or actuator. We've had a leaking condenser. 439 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:36,440 Speaker 1: We've had a leaking condenser high side to the compressor line. 440 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:40,560 Speaker 1: We've had lessy's, we've had a couple of strange ones, 441 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:44,640 Speaker 1: cooling fans not coming on. And it tells me that 442 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:50,240 Speaker 1: air conditioning, to me, is the hardest problem, not to diagnose, 443 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:55,160 Speaker 1: but to explain. And this is my point. I want 444 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:57,399 Speaker 1: you to walk into your repair shop winning if you 445 00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:00,080 Speaker 1: have an air conditioning problem, and just tell them my 446 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:04,120 Speaker 1: air conditioning is not cold, not I need I need 447 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:06,439 Speaker 1: free On. By the way, it's not called free on anymore. 448 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:09,360 Speaker 1: Hasn't been called free on a long time, but everybody 449 00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:11,399 Speaker 1: seems to still call it free on, free on, and 450 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:14,440 Speaker 1: actually free on even when it was our twelve free 451 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:17,200 Speaker 1: On was a trade name. It was a brand name 452 00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:19,879 Speaker 1: developed by DuPont Um. You can look it up, you 453 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:22,040 Speaker 1: can google it, but free On really wasn't what it 454 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:26,119 Speaker 1: was called. It was our twelve refrigerant and DuPont's version 455 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:28,680 Speaker 1: of it was free On. That was the brand name. 456 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:30,879 Speaker 1: But don't tell the mechanic you automatically need free On 457 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:34,440 Speaker 1: because you may not. There's a reasonable chance that you're 458 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 1: one thirty four, your one f y F car will not. 459 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:40,640 Speaker 1: It's got a leak, it's got a mechanical problem, it's 460 00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:43,679 Speaker 1: got an electrical problem. It's got something that's preventing it 461 00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:46,000 Speaker 1: from operating properly and doing what it's supposed to do. 462 00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:49,960 Speaker 1: So just just be mindful of that and um, you know, 463 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:52,239 Speaker 1: consider that you've got to do things one step at 464 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:55,679 Speaker 1: a time. Chances are the shop is going to have 465 00:25:55,920 --> 00:26:00,119 Speaker 1: to do a service and a C service to and 466 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:03,399 Speaker 1: sometimes that's the only way. We've been using the MALLA 467 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:07,360 Speaker 1: one thirty four machine a refrigerant machine quite a bit 468 00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:11,479 Speaker 1: in the past two weeks. Very nice unit, alright, stone quiet. 469 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:15,159 Speaker 1: It's as quiet as a church. It it has the 470 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:19,879 Speaker 1: ability to do automatic a C service, dial in your time, 471 00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:22,560 Speaker 1: dial in your weight, dial in your leak, check, push 472 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:24,400 Speaker 1: one button, hook it up, walk away, and it does 473 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:27,400 Speaker 1: it all flawlessly, and then it beeps along the way. 474 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:30,200 Speaker 1: It's tells you, you know, hey, I finished this step. 475 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:32,280 Speaker 1: I'm going on to the next one. I'm finished this step. 476 00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:34,200 Speaker 1: I'm going on to the next one. And then when 477 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:36,880 Speaker 1: it's done, it's it's like your kids. It just sits 478 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:38,959 Speaker 1: there and beeping and making noise until you pick them 479 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:41,520 Speaker 1: up and say, okay, we're done. Um so, but mal 480 00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:43,600 Speaker 1: has got it going on. Uh. If you're in the 481 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:45,560 Speaker 1: market for an A C machine, you should take a 482 00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:48,440 Speaker 1: look at Mala. Definitely very nice stuff. Let's pull over 483 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:51,800 Speaker 1: and take a pause. Five five zero zero. I'll run 484 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:53,760 Speaker 1: ay and the car doctor and I'll be back right 485 00:26:53,800 --> 00:27:04,280 Speaker 1: after this. She's real. Find my fornight, she's real. Find 486 00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:11,600 Speaker 1: my phone, my funk back. Ron, name of the car 487 00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:15,199 Speaker 1: Docker listener writes in Hey Ron, I'm wondering if you 488 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:17,720 Speaker 1: have any great Father's Day stories about your father. Heard 489 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:20,159 Speaker 1: you're talking in the first hour, and I'm just wondering, 490 00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:21,920 Speaker 1: do you have anything that you remember as a kid. 491 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:26,520 Speaker 1: George in Georgia. You know, geez, George, you know, there's 492 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:28,800 Speaker 1: so many Dad's stories. It's it's you know, it's tough 493 00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:30,679 Speaker 1: I don't remember him as much as I used to. 494 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:33,919 Speaker 1: I think one of my favorites is when I was 495 00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:39,280 Speaker 1: probably every bit of four or five years old Dad, 496 00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:42,080 Speaker 1: when Mom wasn't around. Dad put me on his lap 497 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:45,040 Speaker 1: in the Volvo and I would steer the Volvo and 498 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:47,560 Speaker 1: move the gearshift over every time he pushed the clutch in, 499 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:50,800 Speaker 1: and uh, you know, I learned about manual transmission and 500 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:53,720 Speaker 1: clutch operation that way, and it was just I don't 501 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:55,600 Speaker 1: know that that got me hooked on being a mechanic. 502 00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:57,879 Speaker 1: I think that got me hooked on cars. That cars 503 00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:00,240 Speaker 1: were just so neat and fascinating. It was, you know, 504 00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:03,040 Speaker 1: the movement of the gearshift knob and the clutch pedal 505 00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:05,800 Speaker 1: and there was some coordination things going on, and I 506 00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:07,720 Speaker 1: was just so amazed at the way he handled that 507 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:10,080 Speaker 1: piece of machinery that you know, it just got me 508 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:14,439 Speaker 1: more curious. I think what got a I think what 509 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:18,119 Speaker 1: got me going with regards to being a mechanic. Was 510 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:23,199 Speaker 1: it for me personally? It was my way of you know, 511 00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:25,440 Speaker 1: so many kids were better at sports and so many 512 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:28,199 Speaker 1: different things, but it was helped me identify myself with 513 00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:30,960 Speaker 1: one of the talents that the big Man above gave 514 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:32,760 Speaker 1: me that I was able to do something and do 515 00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:35,280 Speaker 1: it by myself. It made me the quarterback of my 516 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:37,879 Speaker 1: own little football team, so to speak. So you know, 517 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:39,880 Speaker 1: that kind of made me feel good. But that's that 518 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:42,680 Speaker 1: I got from Dad too, So just dad stories. Um 519 00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:44,280 Speaker 1: Tom writes, And we had a question from a call 520 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:46,320 Speaker 1: or what is the going rate for R twelve refrigerants 521 00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:50,000 Speaker 1: if you can find it? Um, I've seen the little cans, 522 00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:53,240 Speaker 1: the little fifteen ounce cans of R twelve refrigerant going 523 00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:57,160 Speaker 1: anywhere from two to a can. So I'm seeing all 524 00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:59,240 Speaker 1: kinds of crazy numbers. So if you find some and 525 00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:01,840 Speaker 1: you need some, you know, hang onto it because they 526 00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:04,040 Speaker 1: ain't making it anymore. Hey, Ron, I listen to your 527 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:06,840 Speaker 1: radio program on occasion on my local radio station, w 528 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:09,240 Speaker 1: d r C in Hartford, Connecticut, which they carry on 529 00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:11,800 Speaker 1: a de laid basis. What are your thoughts on undercoating 530 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:14,520 Speaker 1: rustproofing a new vehicle pickup truck with line X or 531 00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:16,360 Speaker 1: some of the rustproofers that they carry at the auto 532 00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:19,360 Speaker 1: parts stores, or any commercial rustproofers that you know of. 533 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:21,960 Speaker 1: I remember years ago we had Rusty Jones and auto armor. 534 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:25,200 Speaker 1: My seven Dodge Diplomat had auto armor on it. When 535 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:27,520 Speaker 1: it was brand new, and it is still fabulous, although 536 00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:29,560 Speaker 1: I never drive it in the winter. My two thousand 537 00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:32,200 Speaker 1: eight Ranger with fifty one thous miles on it is 538 00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:34,240 Speaker 1: in pretty rough shape. It's out in the winter storm 539 00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:37,240 Speaker 1: so I can plow the various family driveways. Is amazing 540 00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:39,680 Speaker 1: how much of these road chemicals they pour on for 541 00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:41,840 Speaker 1: each storm. It's amazing how this stuff sticks to the 542 00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:43,640 Speaker 1: underside of the truck even when you try to hose 543 00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:46,400 Speaker 1: it off. I can't see spending thirty five thousand dollars 544 00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:48,400 Speaker 1: plus for a new truck that will rust out in 545 00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:50,400 Speaker 1: twelve years. I'm sixty two, and if I purchase a 546 00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:52,120 Speaker 1: new truck I wanted the last twenty years, how do 547 00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:55,680 Speaker 1: I protected? Martin? Great question, Marty, Uh, you know, listen, 548 00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:58,120 Speaker 1: I'm a little bit of fanatic when it comes to rustproofing. 549 00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:01,280 Speaker 1: I'm not so much a fan of undercoating and rustproofing. 550 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:03,720 Speaker 1: I'm not saying there's anything wrong with it, but I've 551 00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:06,600 Speaker 1: always of late, I've taken the paint approach when I've 552 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:08,400 Speaker 1: purchased the plow truck. And you might have heard me 553 00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:10,680 Speaker 1: tell the story before I've stripped the wheel wells out 554 00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:12,640 Speaker 1: of it. I stripped everything out of it that I could. 555 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:14,920 Speaker 1: I got it down to the very barest of metal 556 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:19,520 Speaker 1: and Benjamin Moore low luster alkalid UH paint. I've painted 557 00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:22,480 Speaker 1: the entire undercarriage of the truck, and then I've rustproofed, patched, 558 00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:26,800 Speaker 1: aerosol spray, rustproof patch in various uh you know, various 559 00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:29,840 Speaker 1: places of of of undercoating. I think the key with 560 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:32,400 Speaker 1: undercoating is you've got to get it all or there's 561 00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:35,400 Speaker 1: got to be protection at all levels. Because once the 562 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:39,080 Speaker 1: chemical or once the moisture gets past an open or 563 00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:42,240 Speaker 1: unprotected area on any vehicle, I think the game is 564 00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:44,680 Speaker 1: over because it just sort of creeps along under the 565 00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:47,280 Speaker 1: protective material and there's nothing you can do about it 566 00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:50,000 Speaker 1: at that point and creates a bigger problem. Um. I 567 00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:51,760 Speaker 1: agree with you spending a lot of money on a 568 00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:55,400 Speaker 1: vehicle to let it rust out. The problem is, as 569 00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:57,680 Speaker 1: you say, you're oh eight rangers rusted out to the 570 00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:00,240 Speaker 1: point that you know it's rusting out to the point 571 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:02,800 Speaker 1: that it's in pretty rough shape. So you know where's 572 00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:05,320 Speaker 1: the tradeoff? Yes, I agree we are putting too much 573 00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:07,440 Speaker 1: chemical on the roads in all states. It seems no 574 00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:09,960 Speaker 1: matter where you go. UM, which is sort of mind 575 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:12,400 Speaker 1: boggling because we've got vehicles with all wheel drive, all 576 00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:15,480 Speaker 1: wheel steering, all wheel breaking, and we still put enough 577 00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:18,080 Speaker 1: chemical on the on the on the roadways that it 578 00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:20,000 Speaker 1: makes you wonder what it's doing to the environment, although 579 00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:23,560 Speaker 1: I know they'll tell you that you know it's environmental, uh, 580 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:27,480 Speaker 1: environmental safe chemical, so it doesn't cause a problem. But 581 00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:31,040 Speaker 1: I think you've got to do some undercoat Martin, back 582 00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:32,840 Speaker 1: to your question. I think you've got to do some undercoating. 583 00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:35,280 Speaker 1: I think you've got to do some painting, proper care, 584 00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:37,560 Speaker 1: and I think washing off. I think those three steps 585 00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:39,600 Speaker 1: will help promote the life of the vehicle. Um, I 586 00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:42,040 Speaker 1: wouldn't worry about the truck rusting out in twelve years 587 00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:44,320 Speaker 1: or so because at the right things are going. They're 588 00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:46,600 Speaker 1: gonna stop making parts for most things after seven. So 589 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:48,080 Speaker 1: as long as you get seven years out of it, 590 00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:50,479 Speaker 1: you're good. And you just have to factor in the 591 00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:53,520 Speaker 1: expense of a new vehicle sooner rather than later. Just 592 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:56,560 Speaker 1: my perspective, just getting ready for the future. Eight five 593 00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:00,280 Speaker 1: zero nine zero Marnin eating the car Doctor. We're at 594 00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:16,080 Speaker 1: right after this, don't go away, locome back running in 595 00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:18,520 Speaker 1: of the car Doctor, winding it down this hour. You know. 596 00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:20,600 Speaker 1: The one other thing that I thought was interesting we 597 00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:24,000 Speaker 1: haven't talked about at all is the way tools are changing. 598 00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:26,080 Speaker 1: So I've been going through the back room of the 599 00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:28,800 Speaker 1: shop and I've got a collection and there are some 600 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:32,200 Speaker 1: things there that I thought would always be worth money. 601 00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:35,800 Speaker 1: I've been trying to sell breakout my breakout box and 602 00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:38,760 Speaker 1: breakout box adapters for the original four to EKE four 603 00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:42,560 Speaker 1: engine control systems. E four was produced from eighty three 604 00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:46,160 Speaker 1: until but you know, you start adding it up and 605 00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:50,520 Speaker 1: you goosand and five two thousand fifteen. Those those cars 606 00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:54,520 Speaker 1: are anywhere from fifteen to twenty five years old, and 607 00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:57,440 Speaker 1: there's they're just not out there. I've had breakout box 608 00:32:57,480 --> 00:32:59,960 Speaker 1: adapters and stuff up on eBay for the past month, 609 00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:03,760 Speaker 1: and uh, you know, forty bucks can't give it away, 610 00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:06,239 Speaker 1: just nobody wants it. And they were they were four 611 00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:08,760 Speaker 1: D tools back in the day. It's just it's just 612 00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:15,240 Speaker 1: crazy the way technology is driving certain cars into uh, 613 00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:17,320 Speaker 1: you know, non existence, and I guess you know they're 614 00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:20,680 Speaker 1: getting older, but nothing survived, right. It seems like a 615 00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:22,320 Speaker 1: lot of these vehicles that we used to work on 616 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:25,000 Speaker 1: a regular basis, the simple jobs we used to work 617 00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:28,320 Speaker 1: on a regular basis, just haven't survived. We also worked 618 00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:30,280 Speaker 1: on this week. I should point out seventy seven pant 619 00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:33,520 Speaker 1: trans am, the smoking in the Bandit car um black 620 00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:37,200 Speaker 1: black tip trans Am gold trim, Anthony's car um. We 621 00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:39,920 Speaker 1: love Anthony. Anthony's a good guy. He's listening. You know. 622 00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:41,880 Speaker 1: We told him get this, this, this, he got that 623 00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:44,400 Speaker 1: that and that. We did a power steering pump and 624 00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:47,360 Speaker 1: pressure hoses this week. A little bit of a toughie 625 00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:50,800 Speaker 1: because the original power steering host. This kind of annoys me. 626 00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:54,880 Speaker 1: The original power steering hose. The replacement wasn't exactly like 627 00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:58,400 Speaker 1: the original host. It was just enough tweaks in it 628 00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:00,720 Speaker 1: that it just sort of fit, but not really it 629 00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:03,080 Speaker 1: could have, you know which I always wonder why the 630 00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:07,640 Speaker 1: aftermarket or why the manufacturers do that, because this way work, 631 00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:10,319 Speaker 1: This way is sort of okay, you know. Is it 632 00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:12,520 Speaker 1: a we don't care any more of the vehicles out 633 00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:15,080 Speaker 1: of warranty and it's your problem. That type of mentality. 634 00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:17,440 Speaker 1: I don't know, but it was. It was fun working 635 00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:20,600 Speaker 1: on something with a carburetor again, and you know, basics, 636 00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:22,920 Speaker 1: just nuts and bolts. It just took a little bit 637 00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:24,840 Speaker 1: of time because everything has to be trial fit and 638 00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:27,520 Speaker 1: looked at once, then looked at twice, and then hooked 639 00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:29,439 Speaker 1: up and then made wet and then once you put 640 00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:31,920 Speaker 1: fluid in it, burp it and bleed it and um, 641 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:33,160 Speaker 1: then you go take it for a rud and you 642 00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:36,560 Speaker 1: look for Sally Fields, which we didn't find. So I 643 00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:39,880 Speaker 1: didn't even have the cowboy hat. Um, so I know 644 00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:41,560 Speaker 1: when I have to get for Father's Day next year. 645 00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:44,680 Speaker 1: By the way, speaking of gifts for Father's Day, did 646 00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:47,879 Speaker 1: anybody see totally off topic here? We'll close it out here, 647 00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:51,800 Speaker 1: but sort of. It's a mechanical thing. The Royal Navy 648 00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:55,640 Speaker 1: has this jet pack there. There's a video up on 649 00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:59,000 Speaker 1: Facebook where they're talking about it's it's these couplings that 650 00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:01,359 Speaker 1: you strapped to your lists and you wear the jet 651 00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:04,640 Speaker 1: pack on your arm and you can fly like Iron Man. Um. 652 00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:06,520 Speaker 1: It's really kind of cool. I bet I can make 653 00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:09,480 Speaker 1: it faster, but uh, you know, it just makes you 654 00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:12,000 Speaker 1: wonder the technology and where it's going. I don't know. 655 00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:14,520 Speaker 1: I better put that technology into electric vehicles because we're 656 00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:17,000 Speaker 1: sure you're gonna need it. Something's got to change. Hey, 657 00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:19,040 Speaker 1: it's been a pleasure. I hope you've enjoyed yourself. I 658 00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:21,399 Speaker 1: have everyone out there have a great Father's Day, Honor 659 00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:23,879 Speaker 1: those that are leading the way, and until the next time, 660 00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:27,360 Speaker 1: remember the mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless. See that