Speaker 1: Reality with the King is hosted by me, Carlos King.
Speaker 1: I'm an executive producer who have produced some of your
Speaker 1: favorite shows from the Real Housewives in Atlanta, New Jersey
Speaker 1: and my own creation, The Love and Marriage Franchise and
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Speaker 1: Real Housewives Franchise to The Bachelor or Selling Sunset, in
Speaker 1: addition to celebrity guests, whether in the unscripted space or
Speaker 1: scripted as well. I'm super stoked to have this conversation
Speaker 1: with you guys, because look, this is an education okay
Speaker 1: that we're gonna have today based on something that happened
Speaker 1: when I'm on ex okay formally known as Twitter. I'm
Speaker 1: promoting mother a Law, I'm promoting my shows and.
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Speaker 2: ring finger, but for obvious reasons, I'm I.
Speaker 1: Gonna put it there, so instead I wear it on
Speaker 1: my index finger.
Speaker 2: Because I think it's cute.
Speaker 1: It looks like another ring that I'm not gonna say,
Speaker 1: but I want to be appropriate, So okay, I feel better.
Speaker 2: You know, I gotta make sure I give you all
Speaker 2: the things now. Okay, So here's the deal.
Speaker 1: I'm on X promoting Monday Our Live, doing my thing.
Speaker 2: I don't you know.
Speaker 1: I try not to engage so much on Twitter. I'm
Speaker 1: more of a threads guy. I love threads.
Speaker 2: They're more kind, gentler. I'm not gonna say smarter, but
Speaker 2: what I will.
Speaker 1: Say is the discussions are a little bit more intellectual. Okay,
Speaker 1: but this course is just much more digestible.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: AnyWho, I'm on X and shout out too, because I
Speaker 1: love to cite my sources. I am a journalist, Hey, Portia,
Speaker 1: So as a journalist, I like to cite my sources.
Speaker 2: So I am on X and shout out to this
Speaker 2: X account.
Speaker 1: It goes by by wig Hello Drama, and they're at
Speaker 1: is at Housewives' Hub.
Speaker 2: Okay, shout out to you. So they posted.
Speaker 1: A tweet that says, what's your most unpopular housewives opinion?
Speaker 1: So I'm like, let's ask a good question. And I
Speaker 1: thought about it for a second and every listen. I
Speaker 1: like to engage with the rain drops. I like to
Speaker 1: engage with the fans. So I said, let me just
Speaker 1: give my fact that y'all call opinions, and let me
Speaker 1: just state what I think.
Speaker 2: So I can, you know, have fun with the girls.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, you know.
Speaker 1: So the question was what's your most unpopular Housewives opinion?
Speaker 1: I said, Giselle is to Potomac what Nimi is to Atlanta.
Speaker 1: I won't be explaining any further. I posted my promo
Speaker 1: from Monday Night Live. That's on my YouTube channel. I'm working,
Speaker 1: I'm doing my thing.
Speaker 2: I have a break. I got my lunch, and I said, oh,
Speaker 2: let me see what's popping on Twitter. This shit blew up.
Speaker 2: It's trending. Can y'all see this? All the screen is
Speaker 2: messed up? I'll post it.
Speaker 1: It says, so it's trending in the entertainment tab on
Speaker 1: X and it says Carlos King draws backlash comparing Giselle
Speaker 1: Bryant to Ninny Leaks.
Speaker 2: Can y'all see that? Look at my screen?
Speaker 1: Child?
Speaker 2: Okay? So then.
Speaker 1: I have three hundred and six sixty six comments, four
Speaker 1: hundred and eighty four retweets, one thousand, two hundred likes,
Speaker 1: and everybody is saying, no, comeback.
Speaker 2: You actually do need to explain yourself. I'm like, well,
Speaker 2: first of all, I gotta explain shit because I know
Speaker 2: what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1: But then, you know, every once in a while, I
Speaker 1: feel the need to educate the girls.
Speaker 2: So I'm and the guys and the gays in the days. Okay,
Speaker 2: I'm here to educate you guys.
Speaker 1: Why it is true that Gaselle Kobe Bryant is to
Speaker 1: Potomac what Nini Leaks is to Atlanta. And this is
Speaker 1: why I said what I said, and it ain't changing
Speaker 1: over here. A lot of y'all retweeting and said, name
Speaker 1: one iconic Giselle line. My comparison has nothing to do
Speaker 1: with their iconic reads or lack their are It has
Speaker 1: nothing to do with memes. Because some of y'all said,
Speaker 1: name one meme that we use of Gazel's name an
Speaker 1: iconic line. Gazelle said, I wasn't comparing Gazelle and Nini
Speaker 1: Leaks in terms of iconic status. If you guys have
Speaker 1: been a day one rain drop. When I launched my
Speaker 1: podcast in twenty twenty two, Hey Jasmine, my former EP.
Speaker 1: My first episode was the top Yeah, it was ten,
Speaker 1: the top ten greatest Housewise of all time. Giselle Briant
Speaker 1: was number nine. Nimi Leaks was number one, and that
Speaker 1: four years ago.
Speaker 2: That's not changing.
Speaker 1: Nimi Leaks is the greatest house by of all time,
Speaker 1: and that's not up for debate. Nimi was number one
Speaker 1: on my list, Giselle Bryant was number nine. Comparing one
Speaker 1: to nine makes no sense. I wasn't comparing their iconic status.
Speaker 1: I wasn't comparing hearing their iconic reads. I wasn't comparing
Speaker 1: their iconic means. I was simply saying that when you
Speaker 1: think a potomac and as amazing as Karen Huger is
Speaker 1: and I love me some Karen, Karen loves me. I
Speaker 1: love Karen. And when I give my fat it doesn't
Speaker 1: mean that I'm dissing another girl. That's what y'all do,
Speaker 1: y'all just one to uplift the other.
Speaker 2: I'm not doing that.
Speaker 1: Karen Huger is amazing and I have not one bad
Speaker 1: thing to say about Karen Huger. She's Karen Huger is
Speaker 1: the icon, so let's let's let's let's stay fat.
Speaker 2: As a fact, Giselle Brian is Potomac.
Speaker 1: And when Karen Huger was on the show last season,
Speaker 1: a lot of y'all said, this was a great season,
Speaker 1: and we're gonna be honest, a lot of y'all forgot Karen.
Speaker 2: Was even on the show.
Speaker 1: We had Stacey Rush, Doctor, Wendy Ashley, Giselle, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, the Ogs and the Vats, and we
Speaker 1: had Jazzy Kay, Angel, Stacey Rush.
Speaker 2: Honey, Okay, who's who's up?
Speaker 1: Who's in my opinion, Well, let me not say child
Speaker 1: because y'all love to bring on mea Thorton.
Speaker 2: We'll get to that later in this episode.
Speaker 1: If I remember, okay, we forgot Karen was even on
Speaker 1: the show last season. The show went on without Karen,
Speaker 1: not saying, Karen's in our great Karen's fantastic. The fact
Speaker 1: of the fact Karen not being on the show last season,
Speaker 1: we all said the show the season was still good.
Speaker 1: Comparing Giselle saying she is Potomac what Nini is to Atlanta,
Speaker 1: what I'm simply saying is, when you think about Potomac
Speaker 1: as a force multiplication as the anchor. You could love
Speaker 1: caring all these long like I do. There is no
Speaker 1: Potomac without Jaselle. Giselle is a force multiplier. Gazelle works
Speaker 1: as somebody who has worked with Lenithia. Monique Johnson leaks,
Speaker 1: Mimi Leaks energy enters the room. These girls have this
Speaker 1: unspoken thing where they just relinquished to her.
Speaker 2: Nimi's energy shifts the room.
Speaker 1: When she was on the show, and the girls respected
Speaker 1: and said, we're gonna follow yo, lead a little bit
Speaker 1: because you have the leader, and y'all gotta get out
Speaker 1: of y'all hear. Because someone's a leader doesn't mean they
Speaker 1: have followers. Lebron James is the leader of his team.
Speaker 1: It doesn't mean the others starting fiper followers.
Speaker 2: It's a team.
Speaker 1: Ninni Leaks was the captain of the ship. Giselle Briant
Speaker 1: is the captain of Potomac. Giselle Bryant moves story forward.
Speaker 1: When you think of Potomac, yes you do think of
Speaker 1: her and Karen, but let's be real. Karen is don't
Speaker 1: start now, won't be none. Karen is sitting the scene
Speaker 1: all day long and smile and give y'all great one liners.
Speaker 1: But the reason why beloved Karen is because when you
Speaker 1: activate Karen Karen Bam, she shines, and that's when her
Speaker 1: greatness shows. If you do not activate Karen, Karen, don't
Speaker 1: sit there. Giselle Bryant doesn't need to be activated. She's
Speaker 1: the activator, baby, she is Jerry Cirr activation sprints jam peroxide, alcohol,
Speaker 1: rubbing alcohol.
Speaker 2: At that Gazelle comes in.
Speaker 1: This is the beauty of Joseell Cabby Bryant. When Jazel
Speaker 1: Brian enters a scene, she does this. Hmm, how can
Speaker 1: I make this more interesting? How can I make this
Speaker 1: more entertaining? Hmm, Well, let me call this person out.
Speaker 1: Let me ask this question. That's what makes her iconic.
Speaker 1: It is because she pushes things. She pushes people to talk.
Speaker 1: She puts you on the spot. Gazelle is loyal to her.
Speaker 1: Check Okay. She will let you know, like.
Speaker 2: Well, you say that you actually were saying this last week?
Speaker 2: Oh really? Well, why beep in I walked in today?
Speaker 2: Y'all weren't saying anything to each other? Why is that?
Speaker 1: The way she got with Angel last season, the way
Speaker 1: she rallied the girls and said we're not Gazelle said,
Speaker 1: we're not staying here. We're all going through the fourth seasons.
Speaker 1: If you want to stay here and stay here and
Speaker 1: guess what they did have their luggages, Hey, Pharah have
Speaker 1: their luggage.
Speaker 2: Hopped in Karen's Gazelle's take.
Speaker 1: Karen hopped in Gazelle's big will Bawn and were to
Speaker 1: the four seasons.
Speaker 2: That's what Gazelle does.
Speaker 1: Every time Gazelle is a part of an all cast
Speaker 1: sne She's gonna make sure shit happens. That's why she
Speaker 1: is too Pertoma what Ninni is to at lantn uh
Speaker 1: Nini to Atlanta where Kenya was on the out of
Speaker 1: the girls.
Speaker 2: She said, oh, let me bring you back.
Speaker 1: Season six, she brought She brought Kenya back in front
Speaker 1: of the girls and said, let's give Kenya another chance.
Speaker 2: Okay. Phedra and Faeda said.
Speaker 1: Well, you tried to imply that my husband had aids
Speaker 1: and Nini said, he eats. That's because she brought back
Speaker 1: Kenya to smooth things over with the girls. That's the
Speaker 1: power Nini had. That's the power that Gazelle has. Without
Speaker 1: Gioselle and Potomac, no one is doing anything. The only
Speaker 1: one that made it not even make because she will,
Speaker 1: but they won't listen to her.
Speaker 2: Is Ashley.
Speaker 1: Y'all gotta understand the power of Giselle Kobe Bryant, because
Speaker 1: Joselle is a part of a sorority. And everybody that
Speaker 1: I know, one hundred percent of them who went to
Speaker 1: college with Giselle, they all said, everybody wanted to be
Speaker 1: friends with Gazelle. Have I seen Jazelle's picture when she
Speaker 1: was in college.
Speaker 2: Let's be clear.
Speaker 1: You know, back in my day, ever since the seventh grade,
Speaker 1: I've always hung with the baddest chicks in school.
Speaker 2: Carlos King was known to be around some baddies.
Speaker 1: When I saw Gizelle's picture in college, I said, oh, bitch,
Speaker 1: we would have been the best of friends.
Speaker 2: Gizelle would have looked at me. I would have looked
Speaker 2: at Gazelle and said, you're on the right team.
Speaker 1: That's why Gzelle's best friend Kai, who's a Libra, Hi Kai,
Speaker 1: they've been best friends forever and as a Libra, myself,
Speaker 1: me and Gazelle to be cool.
Speaker 2: So all the girls said to me, everybody in college
Speaker 2: wanted to be friends with Gazelle.
Speaker 1: Zel, how was that girl in college Gizelle ran that sorority,
Speaker 1: allegedly that chapter.
Speaker 2: She ran it, just like she's running the damn show.
Speaker 1: This is reality with the King, and I'm Carlos King.
Speaker 2: Let's get back into the show.
Speaker 1: Gizelle is a secret producer. Gizelle comes up with storylines.
Speaker 1: Gazelle comes up with scenes. Gizelle comes up with questions
Speaker 1: to ask. Gizelle refuses for Potomac to be boring. That's
Speaker 1: what Nini was. Nini operated under the guys.
Speaker 2: I refuse to make this show boring.
Speaker 1: It's the reason why after she and Claudia Geordan had
Speaker 1: the parter Ritko off, she said, y'all.
Speaker 2: Cast the wrong bitch.
Speaker 1: Y'all should have cast Claudia as a housewife. And because
Speaker 1: of that one statement, I went back to my bosses
Speaker 1: and said, Claudia ate fifteen plus. Mimi said X, Y
Speaker 1: and Z, and they said, well, damn, let's take a
Speaker 1: look at it. Nessik, I know Claudia had a peach
Speaker 1: because Mimi Leaks did everything to make the show great.
Speaker 2: That's what Gazelle is doing. You ain't got still like Gazel.
Speaker 2: I get the gig. I understand it. I can trip it.
Speaker 2: It's all good.
Speaker 1: But you gotta respect her gangster, I think because y'all
Speaker 1: like Karen so much and I like Karen too, that y'all,
Speaker 1: in the words of Mimi Leaks, use your brain. Karen
Speaker 1: is likable, beautiful, and a great reality star. Karen would
Speaker 1: even tell you that Giselle has her job and they
Speaker 1: all rely on Gazelle to get shit started, and that's
Speaker 1: what she does.
Speaker 2: Well. Some of y'all even said, well, Ninnie Lee's gave
Speaker 2: us a great personal story.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, once again, I'm not comparing Nannie's Greatest Housewife of
Speaker 1: All Time title to Jaselle. Yes, Giselle lacks in personal story.
Speaker 1: I called it out and I've said it, but similar
Speaker 1: to dtor Hemily on Mariti Medicine, Giselle makes up for
Speaker 1: it by getting involved in the mess. As some of
Speaker 1: y'all favorite reality stars refuse to get in a mess
Speaker 1: because they don't want y'all to read them and drag them.
Speaker 1: Gizelle is fantastic because she doesn't feel.
Speaker 2: The need to be liked by the audience.
Speaker 1: She feels like as long as the people said to
Speaker 1: my check likes me, I'm good. That's why Giselle is
Speaker 1: always up first when it comes to anything Bravo does
Speaker 1: with marketing Ultimate Girls Trip twentieth anniversary. There's a reason
Speaker 1: they chose Gazelle. Oh we have a show called Love Hotel.
Speaker 1: Who can we get Jazelle?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: With the Ultimate Girls Trip in Thailand? Who can we
Speaker 1: get Jazelle?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: We're doing this web series that will be on Bravo
Speaker 1: during the pandemic. You know this chat show, Bravo Chat Room.
Speaker 1: Who should we get Gazelle?
Speaker 2: Y'all? I hate the girl so much.
Speaker 1: She gets all the gigs I think five gigs Giselle
Speaker 1: has outside of Potomac.
Speaker 2: And y'all gonna argue.
Speaker 1: With me about what I'm saying. She's the literal faith
Speaker 1: of Potomac. Her own employer thinks that where's the argument.
Speaker 2: Use your brain, not your bias. It's okay to love Karen.
Speaker 2: I love Karen. I'm also real. And what I can
Speaker 2: say to y'all really.
Speaker 1: Is that Giselle is the force multiplier, the faith, the anchor.
Speaker 2: Of Potomac. It is what it is. And not to
Speaker 2: think facts.
Speaker 1: I'm not talking about the amount of means the iconic
Speaker 1: reads in life. No, I'm talking about facts. Every moment
Speaker 1: that was iconic and Potomac. Giselle was a part of it,
Speaker 1: whether she was getting read like the buying guard.
Speaker 2: Over the Kansas was cussing her out, She's a part
Speaker 2: of it.
Speaker 1: When Candace and Ashley got to that argument at Kandas
Speaker 1: townhouse and Candace kicked out Ashley, Gizelle was the one
Speaker 1: that brought.
Speaker 2: Gazelle is hilarious.
Speaker 1: Gizelle was the one that brought Ashley back in the
Speaker 1: house because she said, look, bitch, you still got more
Speaker 1: work to do.
Speaker 2: You still got more work to do.
Speaker 1: Child. This was good, but I feel like it can
Speaker 1: be greater. Come back in the house. Her and Karen
Speaker 1: one offs are arconic because Giselle doesn't give up. Is
Speaker 1: she the best reader? No, but she has the best
Speaker 1: resilience and the best tenacity.
Speaker 2: Even if she loses the verbal fighting.
Speaker 1: She don't mind being a part of it. She don't
Speaker 1: mind being disliked. Gizelle has not changed her ways.
Speaker 2: In over ten seasons.
Speaker 1: While some of y'all face change their waves, their faces,
Speaker 1: everything in between to please y'all, Gizelle don't give two
Speaker 1: shits about y'all.
Speaker 2: She done that Nity, don't care about what y'all think either.
Speaker 1: Now for y'all trying to say what Kylos, you said
Speaker 1: the same thing about Mia. I'm gonna say this once
Speaker 1: and I'm never gonna bring this up again. I was
Speaker 1: not wrong about Mia when I said Mia was the
Speaker 1: future of Potomac.
Speaker 2: What I meant by that, so that we're clear, was
Speaker 2: Mia has all of the.
Speaker 1: Mia has the ability to go far on this show
Speaker 1: if she sticks to what she's doing. Okay, after I
Speaker 1: made that declaration, again, these are facts.
Speaker 2: After I Carlos king me. Carlos made that comment.
Speaker 1: Mia had first chair for two consecutive reunions. Unlike most
Speaker 1: of your fads, two consecutive reunions have for share. MIA's
Speaker 1: storyline with Gordon and inc was the main storyline for
Speaker 1: two consecutive seasons.
Speaker 2: Mia had the cash trip going back to her hometown.
Speaker 2: Mia was that girl.
Speaker 1: I was not wrong about Miya. Now, yes, the fact
Speaker 1: is Mia is a long on the show. I can't
Speaker 1: dictate what a person does when.
Speaker 2: They can't handle the heat.
Speaker 1: With Mia left the stage after being in the hot seat.
Speaker 1: I said a baby one thing about being the star.
Speaker 1: You gotta wear that crown because it's heavy. What I
Speaker 1: find so funny is y'all favorite. Least a Vanda Pump
Speaker 1: did not even show up at the reunion, but y'all
Speaker 1: still say she's the Queen of Beverly Hills, but me
Speaker 1: as the flop.
Speaker 2: After being at the reunion. At least she showed up
Speaker 2: and left in the end. At least she showed up.
Speaker 2: Y'all love Vanda Pump down boot to the Brown. She
Speaker 2: did not show up, but y'all live for Vanda. Yeah,
Speaker 2: we live a Vanda bub Yeah.
Speaker 1: She's everything, Yes, queen. No, Kyle Richards is the face
Speaker 1: of Beverly Hills and that ain't changing. But y'all don't
Speaker 1: give Kyle her things, and we'll get to that later
Speaker 1: in another episode. I can't do it in this one.
Speaker 2: Child, So MEA was that girl.
Speaker 1: The unfortunate thing with Mia that happens to a lot
Speaker 1: of reality stars is they can't handle the pressure of
Speaker 1: being in the first chair, hot seat. They can't handle
Speaker 1: it and they leave the show or they get removed
Speaker 1: from the show.
Speaker 2: So once again, I was not wrong.
Speaker 1: There's women who y'all still stand that aren't on the
Speaker 1: shows anymore, and y'all aren't wrong about calling them iconic.
Speaker 1: But if y'all could do that then I could do
Speaker 1: the same about Mia.
Speaker 2: That's all I'm saying. So I still what I said.
Speaker 1: Now back to Gazelle, y'all going to have to start
Speaker 1: putting some respect from Jazille's name.
Speaker 2: Is she the best reader? No? Is she the most memorable? No?
Speaker 1: But when Giselle Brian clops in at work, there's now
Speaker 1: one person better on Potonmac who's going to do it
Speaker 1: because she doesn't.
Speaker 2: Care what y'all think.
Speaker 1: And I will go to town any day of the
Speaker 1: week for a reality star who cares more about the
Speaker 1: job that she's getting paid to do than the opinions
Speaker 1: of strangers who are there to beat her. Now, she
Speaker 1: doesn't engage on Twitter, she doesn't blame production and for editing,
Speaker 1: she doesn't blame the network. Even when she didn't.
Speaker 2: Have a package, she ate it.
Speaker 1: She didn't go on Twitter explaining herself. She didn't go
Speaker 1: on YouTube to do a video sing let me tell
Speaker 1: you out the real trae. No, she took the l
Speaker 1: and said, all right, I didn't get a package.
Speaker 2: I'm not happy about it.
Speaker 1: All that means is I gotta work harder. Let me
Speaker 1: meet with production, let me let me figure out some things.
Speaker 1: But what I'm not gonna do is blast my employer.
Speaker 1: What I'm not gonna do is blame anyone else.
Speaker 2: Let me figure out what I need to do.
Speaker 1: Let me look with him self to see, like, Okay,
Speaker 1: I know I'm messy. I move story forward. I am
Speaker 1: the force multiplier. When I'm in scene, I make sure
Speaker 1: shit happens. I call people out, I get read, I
Speaker 1: get dragged. They don't like my fashions, but I don't care.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna go broke trying to look good for people.
Speaker 1: They talk about my house, all good, It's paid for
Speaker 1: my house, not in foreclosure. I'm not living above my means.
Speaker 1: They can talk about it. I like it ain't that
Speaker 1: would matters anyway. Okay, I got three beautiful daughters, ones
Speaker 1: in college, two's going to college.
Speaker 2: I think I'm okay.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna change who I am and go broke
Speaker 1: because people have an opinion. It's okay. Of all the girls,
Speaker 1: gonna show them with hires me to do everything, and
Speaker 1: that's how you clear U. She's like, so I must
Speaker 1: be doing something right. The fans don't line drag me,
Speaker 1: but my phone rings. I'm like, Hi, this is just
Speaker 1: l How much is the rate, what are the dates?
Speaker 2: Uh huh? Is there anyone else a Potomac that's gonna
Speaker 2: do it? Oh?
Speaker 1: Just me?
Speaker 2: You're sure you don't? You're sure you don't?
Speaker 1: Me what I mean?
Speaker 2: I can w just me, okay, send me to offer
Speaker 2: the email and if for this on my team, thank you?
Speaker 2: These are facts. Okay, it was King? Why anyway? So look,
Speaker 2: look Rayon drop. I hope that explained everything. Let me
Speaker 2: know the comments.
Speaker 1: What you think Giselle is to Potomac what Niemi is
Speaker 1: to Atlanta.
Speaker 2: I explained it. I hope you got it and I
Speaker 2: will see you guys on the next one. Okay, love
Speaker 2: you guys.
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