1 00:00:04,040 --> 00:00:10,000 Speaker 1: Everybody is Bill Courtney. Welcome to shop talk. Happy New Year, Alex, 2 00:00:10,440 --> 00:00:12,200 Speaker 1: Happy New Year. Well we're not the new year. Well 3 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:13,640 Speaker 1: it will be the new year. Yes. 4 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:17,920 Speaker 2: How is your Christmas? It was great? 5 00:00:18,040 --> 00:00:21,599 Speaker 3: Got to be with family in Chicago and New York. 6 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:23,919 Speaker 2: Actually I don't wait to go. Yeah. 7 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:26,240 Speaker 3: Theykfully got enough miles. I don't have to pay for anything. 8 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 3: Did you take all four of them? 9 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 2: No? 10 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:31,600 Speaker 3: I didn't have them this Christmas. Who did you go 11 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 3: to New York with with my my parents and then 12 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:35,159 Speaker 3: my younger siblings. 13 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:37,600 Speaker 2: That's awesome. What'd you do? Did you go to rockets 14 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 2: or anything? 15 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:41,440 Speaker 3: I honestly worked the whole trip and I pretty much 16 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:42,559 Speaker 3: just had dinner with family. 17 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:44,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, though I did. 18 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:46,919 Speaker 3: You Being a tennis guy, we did play a lot 19 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 3: of paddle tennis with my brother. 20 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 2: Have you ever done that? 21 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 3: No, it's actually really cool paddleton. You should one of 22 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 3: the clubs here must have it. Is it like a 23 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:56,560 Speaker 3: small court like it really? Have you seen? 24 00:00:56,600 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 1: It? 25 00:00:56,680 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 3: Looks like like pickleball, but you're in a cage. Yeah, 26 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 3: it's really cool. Its cage match Stennis. 27 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 2: Yeah. 28 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:04,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's like you could play any time 29 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 3: of year. That's awesome. Yeah, I'm glad you got Spencer. 30 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 3: How's your little brother? I didn't see him, sadly, he's 31 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:13,560 Speaker 3: had all kinds of house issues that he had to 32 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 3: stay home and Emilia. 33 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:16,840 Speaker 2: Isn't he getting close to college? 34 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, so that one dominic? Yeah yeah, he just 35 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:20,679 Speaker 3: got in Notre Dame. 36 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:24,120 Speaker 2: Notre Dame. Yeah, that's market depressed. 37 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:25,759 Speaker 3: It's like school number nineteen in the list. 38 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:26,039 Speaker 2: Yeah. 39 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 1: When I met him, he was obviously a bright kid. Yeah, yeah, 40 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:31,040 Speaker 1: I know your parents are proud. 41 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:32,039 Speaker 2: You're proud. That's cool. 42 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 3: Well, we didn't do anything to deserve it. Guy gave 43 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:35,399 Speaker 3: us that we can't look at too. 44 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 2: Highly on yourself. What it is? So? 45 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 1: Uh shop talking about a number eighty four is about 46 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 1: why I have a great marriage, which is interesting because 47 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 1: Alex wanted me to talk about it and he said 48 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 1: he has a funny lead into this about why I 49 00:01:57,000 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 1: have a great marriage, but he won't tell me why. 50 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 1: So I'm going to hear it you for the first 51 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 1: time right now. Actually, first famous number eighty four US. Oh, okay, 52 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:09,079 Speaker 1: do you have any guesses? It's actually a couple of 53 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 1: good ones there, eighty four. No, but you're gonna say one. 54 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 1: I'm on a Randy Moss. Oh gosh, how do I 55 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 1: miss Randy Moss and Shannon Sharp? Shannon Sharp should have 56 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:21,800 Speaker 1: done Shannon Sharp. Shannon Sharp was one of my favorite players. 57 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:23,800 Speaker 1: He was he was a beast. 58 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:24,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. 59 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 3: So, all right, So when we were in New York, 60 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:31,920 Speaker 3: it was my parents anniversary. Oh so is there on 61 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:33,399 Speaker 3: December twenty seventh? 62 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 2: Mine? Least in my almost December seventeenth. Oh really? So 63 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 2: not all Yeah. 64 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 3: So it was their thirty ninth anniversary. And so we're 65 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:44,800 Speaker 3: actually taking the train from the city to Long Island 66 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:47,520 Speaker 3: at my brother's house and my sister brings up a 67 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 3: card for their anniversary right in front of them to sign. 68 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:54,520 Speaker 3: And my sister writes a really beautiful message and then 69 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 3: she hands me the card. I'm like, gosh, you wrote. 70 00:02:57,240 --> 00:02:59,519 Speaker 1: So you just wrote it and in front of front 71 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 1: of them, handed on the day of the anniversary. 72 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 2: How nice, nice planning. Yeah, so my. 73 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 3: Sister wrote this really beautiful message. I'm like, oh man, 74 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:10,919 Speaker 3: I'm gonna have to write something meaningful too. I was 75 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:15,080 Speaker 3: just gonna sign my name. It's so, I was like, 76 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:17,080 Speaker 3: all right, being the smarts that I am, here's what 77 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:18,080 Speaker 3: I wrote. 78 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:21,239 Speaker 2: I want what you have? No luck so far? 79 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 3: Alex, how nice, and what about congratulations or anything else? 80 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 2: You kind of made the anniversary about one. Would you 81 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 2: have no luck so far? See you out? 82 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 3: So then we handed it to my parents on the 83 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 3: train and they were dying laughing. 84 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 2: It's so funny. Well, and then I. 85 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 3: Was thinking about shop talk ideas, and I'm like, oh, 86 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 3: this could be a good lead into Bill about why 87 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 3: his marriage works, and maybe I can learn from Bill. 88 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, we'll talk about why I think marriages were 89 00:03:57,120 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 1: right after these brief messages from our general sponsors. 90 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 2: Everybody, welcome back to Chop Talk eighty four. 91 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:23,920 Speaker 1: We're talking about how miserable Males is because he doesn't 92 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 1: have a good marriage. I don't have ones. He don't 93 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 1: have a marriage at all, but he wants one. He 94 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:31,480 Speaker 1: told his parents so on their thirty ninth anniversary. Why 95 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 1: do I have a great marriage? Or more importantly, maybe 96 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:38,599 Speaker 1: more topical, is why do I think marriages work. It's 97 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 1: funny because we have two kids married, one getting married 98 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:49,920 Speaker 1: in February, and then Max r fourth. He's feral. I'm 99 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 1: not sure if he will get married. He's a nutcase. 100 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:56,480 Speaker 1: He wants to be married. He'll be married. He's great, 101 00:04:56,640 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 1: but he just hadn't found that person yet. But because 102 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 1: of that, we've been talking with our kids a lot 103 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 1: over the last few years about marriage, and it's actually 104 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 1: required Lisa and I to reflect a lot on our 105 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:18,160 Speaker 1: own marriage about what has and has not worked. And 106 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 1: let me be first to talk about what I did 107 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 1: that didn't work. And Lisa and I got married when 108 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 1: we were young. She was twenty two and I was 109 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 1: twenty four, and we had a kid not fourteen months later, 110 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 1: and then we had three more kids each of the 111 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 1: next three years. So we jumped in with both feet 112 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 1: and that created a lot of chaos and a lot 113 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 1: of stress, especially when I was making seventeen thousand dollars 114 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:50,040 Speaker 1: a year and we couldn't afford diapers half the time 115 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 1: and many times formula. While Lisa and I ate Beanie Weenies, 116 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 1: but at the end of the day, at least has 117 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 1: been my best buddy. She's my best friend. I actually 118 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:12,920 Speaker 1: still to this day can't wait to get home from 119 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:16,359 Speaker 1: work and hang out with her and chat. And she 120 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:20,520 Speaker 1: has an unbelievable sassy sense of humor, but I enjoy it. 121 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:25,920 Speaker 1: And why do I have a great marriage is I 122 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:29,920 Speaker 1: think I have a great marriage because very unwittingly and 123 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 1: without much planning and having no idea because I was 124 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:39,039 Speaker 1: so stupid and young at the time. I was very 125 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 1: fortunate to have been awarded the opportunity to marry my 126 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:52,360 Speaker 1: best body. I married my best friend. And you know, 127 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:56,680 Speaker 1: when you marry somebody that you're infatuated with, and you 128 00:06:56,720 --> 00:07:00,480 Speaker 1: marry somebody that's beautiful, or you marry somebody that that 129 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 1: checks boxes, those things are great. But those things don't 130 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 1: make it through trauma, those things don't make it through heartache, 131 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 1: those things don't make it through very difficult financial situations. 132 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 1: But when you marry your best friend, when you marry 133 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 1: somebody who is just the person you want to spend 134 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 1: the most, I mean your best friend. You want to 135 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 1: be around all the time. Your best friend. You want 136 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 1: to spend your time with your best friend, you want 137 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 1: to share all your excitements with. Your best friend is 138 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 1: who you unload your depths of desperation on to talk 139 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 1: with about. Well, when that person happens to be your spouse, 140 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 1: you seem to be able to get past so much 141 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 1: of the junk that breaks relationships up. If you marry 142 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 1: your best friend first and foremost, a lot of boxes 143 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 1: that you seem to want to check. Don't necessarily have 144 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 1: to be checked for things to work. The second thing is, 145 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:13,280 Speaker 1: and this may fall on some deaf fears to some 146 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 1: of our audience, but I do believe it to be 147 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:25,240 Speaker 1: true because my faith is rooted in grace. Honestly, they're 148 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 1: If not for forgiveness and grace and the salvation of 149 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 1: being forgiven, there really is no point in having Christianity around. 150 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:43,719 Speaker 1: And the whole idea behind Christianity is Christ absolving us 151 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 1: of our sins as a result of His sacrifice. 152 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:49,960 Speaker 2: So I mean, that's what the faith is about. 153 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 1: So if you're a Christian and you always keep that 154 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 1: faith at the center of your marriage, then when you 155 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 1: inevitably do something that we will all do to our 156 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 1: spouse that is hurtful or stupid or painful to them, 157 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:10,960 Speaker 1: or your spouse does something that is hurtful or painful 158 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 1: or stupid to you, if faith remains the center of 159 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:21,960 Speaker 1: your marriage, and because that faith is rooted in grace 160 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 1: and forgiveness and reconciliation, then you are more able in 161 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:35,440 Speaker 1: your relationship to extend, both extend and receive grace. Depending 162 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:39,560 Speaker 1: on if you're the offender or the offendee, because in 163 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 1: any marriage there are offenders and offendees throughout the relationship. 164 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 1: So if you marry your best friend and you're rooted 165 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:53,200 Speaker 1: in faith, you always have your best friend to talk to. 166 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 1: You always have your best friend to lean on you 167 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:57,720 Speaker 1: as you have your best friend to share triumph with. 168 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 1: You always have your best friend to help shield you 169 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:03,960 Speaker 1: from tragedy. And then when you wrong that best friend 170 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 1: and faith is the center of it, you always are 171 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:11,080 Speaker 1: able to be graceful and redemptive with that best friend 172 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 1: in order to sustain your marriage through both tough times 173 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 1: and your own missteps. The third thing I would say 174 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:26,320 Speaker 1: about why it's important to have a great marriage or 175 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:29,680 Speaker 1: how it is able to have a great marriage is 176 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:32,960 Speaker 1: you got to keep things fresh. Nothing that goes on 177 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 1: for twenty, thirty, forty or fifty years, nothing that stands 178 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:44,080 Speaker 1: decades of time, won't get monotonous if you do it 179 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:47,839 Speaker 1: the same way every day, over and over and over again, 180 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 1: and breaking monotony takes work. You have to explore new things. 181 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 1: You have to explore new hobbies. You have to go 182 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 1: new places, you have to do different things, play different games, 183 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:07,680 Speaker 1: change up the way you do holidays, change up the 184 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 1: approach to sensuality, you have to do fresh things. You 185 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 1: have to be creative, and I would say you need 186 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:23,560 Speaker 1: to do that both individually and as a couple. In 187 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:26,560 Speaker 1: other words, maybe the things you do as a couple, 188 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:29,560 Speaker 1: or you try new restaurants, or you go do new things, 189 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:33,720 Speaker 1: or you pick up new hobbies, but individually you also 190 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 1: need to do fresh things. If you always buy chocolates 191 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:41,320 Speaker 1: and red roses on Valentine's Day, switch it up, do 192 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 1: something different. Don't be monotonous, don't be predictable with everything 193 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 1: other than your commitment to faith being the center of 194 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 1: your relationship, and your spouse being your best friend, and fidelity. 195 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:04,920 Speaker 1: With everything other than those three, I would say, be creative, 196 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:11,679 Speaker 1: change things up, be spontaneous. Work to keep excitement in 197 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 1: your relationship, in the things that you do, the things 198 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:19,440 Speaker 1: you engage in your hobbies, and how you approach each other. 199 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 1: In your sensuality. I think it's really important because if 200 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 1: you stay fresh and your best friends, you get to 201 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 1: enjoy these new experiences together, and I think that leads 202 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 1: to a healthy relationship. So why do I think I 203 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:38,200 Speaker 1: have a great marriage And what do I think are 204 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 1: the recipes to a great marriage? 205 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 2: Marry your best friend, have faith at the center of 206 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:48,560 Speaker 2: your marriage, and work very hard to be creative and 207 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 2: spontaneous and break monotony so that in fifty years you 208 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 2: were still as attracted to and excited to be around 209 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 2: your spouse as you were the day you married them. 210 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:04,200 Speaker 1: And I can say for me and Lisa after thirty 211 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:07,560 Speaker 1: five years, that is the case, and that has been 212 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 1: our recipe. 213 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:12,079 Speaker 3: That was super well done for no prep time. You 214 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:13,240 Speaker 3: just did that off the cuff. 215 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:16,720 Speaker 2: Well, it's that one was easy because all of that 216 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 2: is really, really, really true. 217 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 1: That is that is our life together and it doesn't hurt. 218 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 1: But also think Lisa's smoke show and very high because 219 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:29,839 Speaker 1: she is and I can't wait to see her every 220 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:32,200 Speaker 1: day I come home. And I do think she's the 221 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:35,080 Speaker 1: most beautiful person on face of the planet. But that's 222 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 1: icing on the cake. I got lucky on that one, 223 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 1: especially being a fat, redheaded guy. 224 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 3: I think Molly and Maggie are gonna have no trouble 225 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:44,559 Speaker 3: with being creative either. They both seem super creative. 226 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 1: All our kids, all our kids are spontaneous and creative 227 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 1: and add as well. And as long as they remain 228 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:54,320 Speaker 1: faithful and focused on their spouse and marry their best friend. 229 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 1: I think that they will have no problem with the spontaneity, 230 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:02,600 Speaker 1: creativity and having fun because they're all like their mom. 231 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:06,080 Speaker 2: So there it is. That's shop Talking of eighty four. 232 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 1: Kind of an interesting one that you came up with 233 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 1: for me to talk about, and since you just threw 234 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:12,600 Speaker 1: it on me, I actually had a fun time talking 235 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 1: about it. 236 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 2: So that's it. 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