WEBVTT - Second Date Update Classic: Scam the Scammer

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<v Speaker 1>Just a little hit of that Second Date today. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's brigand Jeffrey and you've found the podcast. Thanks so

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<v Speaker 1>much for being here. And big news. Okay, big news,

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<v Speaker 1>The link is in the show notes. Thank you so

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<v Speaker 1>much too for everyone that supports. It's going to truly

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<v Speaker 1>an amazing cause. You really appreciate it. And let's get

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<v Speaker 1>you that second.

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<v Speaker 2>Date, Second Date up date. We got an email from

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<v Speaker 2>a listener and I'll just read the subject line. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>it says there's a scamming coward on the dating apps

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<v Speaker 2>and you need to help me expose him Jesse and

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<v Speaker 2>his name is Scotty. Don't but it is not. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>just kidding. It's an inside joke on the show right now.

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<v Speaker 2>So we're gonna put that aside with the bottle of

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<v Speaker 2>peach snaps and everything else. That's waiting up in his

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<v Speaker 2>hotel room. Let's focus on our caller here, because she

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<v Speaker 2>did seem pretty heated in her email. Just on the

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<v Speaker 2>subject line alone, you could tell. Let's talk to Lindsay. Lindsey,

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<v Speaker 2>welcome to the show.

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<v Speaker 1>Hi already coming in hot, just with that high. I

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<v Speaker 1>love it, Lindsay, what's going on?

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<v Speaker 3>I did, and I want to call him. I want

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<v Speaker 3>to call him.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's take a deep breath.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we'll get into him. Can we know what's this

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<v Speaker 2>guy's name?

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<v Speaker 3>His name is Alex and honestly, don't even call him

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<v Speaker 3>a guy. He's a boy. Wowward, what happens?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Lindsay, we're on the radio.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we got to watch the language just a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>But I appreciate the passion that you have.

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<v Speaker 3>What happened, Well, we got dinner and it was going great.

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<v Speaker 3>I felt like we were really connecting, having a good time.

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<v Speaker 3>He seems more into me than I was into him.

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<v Speaker 3>And towards the end of the meal, he gets up

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<v Speaker 3>to go to the bathroom and never comes back.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh.

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<v Speaker 1>No, we have talked to people that have done this

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<v Speaker 1>or had it done to them.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's really extreme.

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<v Speaker 3>I've heard of this happening online. I never thought this

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<v Speaker 3>would happen to me, and it was humiliating. I felt

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<v Speaker 3>like an idiot.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh God, how long did you sit there? Did you

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<v Speaker 1>get the waiter to like go check on him or what?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? Okay, So after like fifteen twenty minutes, I was like,

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<v Speaker 3>maybe we can check the bathroom. Is he okay? I

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<v Speaker 3>actually got worried about him and he wasn't even there.

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<v Speaker 2>He was gone, oh well, oh yeah, okay, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>I hate to ask, but usually the people that do

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<v Speaker 1>this aren't enjoying the date. Do you think maybe you've

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<v Speaker 1>done this before?

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<v Speaker 2>Strong he did something?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he usually did it have a really good reason.

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<v Speaker 2>I come, he doesn't like you so much? Left right?

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<v Speaker 3>As I said, he seemed more into me than I

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<v Speaker 3>was into him.

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<v Speaker 1>He was so.

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<v Speaker 3>Slurty and funny and like, who does this? What kind

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<v Speaker 3>of garbage piece of craft hymn? And leave their dates

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<v Speaker 3>at the end, the dates all by yourself.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean it's going don't.

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<v Speaker 4>Call her back.

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<v Speaker 1>You have a lot of reason to be upset. But

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know that he is going to hear you

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<v Speaker 1>if we're coming in at that level, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I mean? Like, what do you want out of this.

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<v Speaker 1>You want to call him out and then what I.

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<v Speaker 3>Want to know what made him do that?

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<v Speaker 5>So you want to know what's good that we're going

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<v Speaker 5>to talk and not you because it sounds like you're

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<v Speaker 5>just gonna yell.

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<v Speaker 2>This is definitely different because most of the people that

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<v Speaker 2>reach out to us want another date with the person

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<v Speaker 2>that we're about to call. Lindsey, you have no interest whatsoever.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I want you to call him and then I'm

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<v Speaker 3>going to come on the phone and leave him out.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, okay, I'm here for that. I don't know, like

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<v Speaker 1>what if he has a good reason, but.

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<v Speaker 2>There isn't there. There is no good reason a man

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<v Speaker 2>should ever do that to a woman.

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<v Speaker 1>We have heard where people have had like bathroom emergedencies

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<v Speaker 1>where they can't go back to the table.

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<v Speaker 2>He could have texted her and said something to her

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<v Speaker 2>like exactly have you reached out to him since that?

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<v Speaker 2>Since that happened.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, I've texted him a lot. He had plenty of

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<v Speaker 3>opportunities to write me back and let me know if

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<v Speaker 3>something went wrong in the bathroom, which he didn't.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I'm assuming you called him a bunch of like

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<v Speaker 2>mean names in the text message I.

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<v Speaker 3>Mean I started off nice and then he didn't answer,

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<v Speaker 3>so he didn't deserve me being nice. He didn't get that.

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<v Speaker 3>He does not get that.

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<v Speaker 1>What's interesting. I mean, as soon as we tell this

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<v Speaker 1>guy who we're calling for, he's going to hang up

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<v Speaker 1>on us. Why because he knows he knows how mad

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<v Speaker 1>she is. She's already been texting us.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, he won't know that she's on the line until

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<v Speaker 2>we surprise her with that.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, maybe he wants to out her. Maybe this

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<v Speaker 1>is his chance, right if it's something he thinks she did,

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<v Speaker 1>not that I support.

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<v Speaker 2>That women don't do things wrong in the dating world.

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<v Speaker 2>So the only.

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<v Speaker 3>May's done this, I bet he's done this to like

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<v Speaker 3>a hundred women, so he can't get away with it,

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<v Speaker 3>and he has to defend himself or say something.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh you think he does this like all the time

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<v Speaker 2>he gets out is nothing to do he does?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, because he was acting so smooth and funny, flurry,

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<v Speaker 3>I can read these guys like a book.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So the only reason that you reached out to

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<v Speaker 2>us here is just because the idea of not knowing

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<v Speaker 2>why he left that night is probably just killing you

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<v Speaker 2>right now.

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<v Speaker 3>And if he's gonna humiliate me. I'm gonna humiliate him

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<v Speaker 3>on the radio.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, We're not just doing this for Lindsay today, We're

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<v Speaker 2>doing this for women everywhere who have gotten stood up

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<v Speaker 2>and walked out of in the middle of dinner.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's get him, ladies, come on, I don't even know

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<v Speaker 1>if he's a scammer.

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<v Speaker 2>We are gonna merciless when we come back and do

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<v Speaker 2>the most brutal second Date Part two we've ever done.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're a guy, I would.

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<v Speaker 2>Not answer your phone in the next five minutes, Well

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<v Speaker 2>please answer so that we can have something to air.

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<v Speaker 2>But we're gonna do it right after this second date update.

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<v Speaker 2>This is a little tense because there's a woman listener

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<v Speaker 2>of ours on the phone right now who is out

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<v Speaker 2>for blood.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yes, she is.

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<v Speaker 5>Claws are out because in her mind and I do

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<v Speaker 5>kind of agree with her here, there's no reason for

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<v Speaker 5>a guy to get up and leave a table at

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<v Speaker 5>the end of the date, sneak out of the restaurant

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<v Speaker 5>and stick her with the entire bill.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's a day he ate his dinner. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>like he left in the middle and like some emergency.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's what that's a good point, Joe.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what happened to Lindsay, or I mean, at least

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<v Speaker 2>I think she got stuck with the bill. What happened

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<v Speaker 2>with the bill, Lindsay? Did you pay it? Oh?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so that's another thing. He left me to cover

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<v Speaker 3>the bill. The waiter saw me sitting there for a

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<v Speaker 3>half hour and somehow up said he was and he

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<v Speaker 3>generously covered my bill, which was so nice.

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<v Speaker 2>Told the manager to take it off the bill.

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<v Speaker 3>You didn't have to pay, Yeah, I didn't have to pay.

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<v Speaker 3>But the humiliation of being left alone there was the

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<v Speaker 3>worst part of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Alexis is humiliated just sitting alone under desk. Sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>even if it stood up, I can't shameful.

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<v Speaker 2>But Brooke, I think we need a game plan so

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<v Speaker 2>we all don't jump on alex and like get angry

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<v Speaker 2>right off the back.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I think first of all, we shouldn't accuse

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<v Speaker 1>him of anything we don't know from his side what happened.

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<v Speaker 2>You liar, you would say that there.

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<v Speaker 1>Could be a reason, even if his reason sucks. You

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<v Speaker 1>want to hear it. That's the whole point of you

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<v Speaker 1>calling in, right, You want to hear it.

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<v Speaker 2>He better be in the hospital when we call him.

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<v Speaker 2>I won't forgive him.

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<v Speaker 1>The only way we're going to hear it is if

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<v Speaker 1>we come in not accusatory.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, okay, but like we're all on my side.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, well the girls do not see I mean right now. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't heard the other side of the story yet.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't care what the other side of the story

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<v Speaker 2>is personally, but you know what, I'm going to dial

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<v Speaker 2>Alex and we're going to be on our best behavior.

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<v Speaker 2>Hopefully he picks up up.

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<v Speaker 3>Here we go, let's see what he says.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, okay, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Kind of like it. Here we go. Hello, Hey, we're

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<v Speaker 2>looking to speak with Alex.

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<v Speaker 4>UT's see.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey Alex, hope you're having a good day.

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<v Speaker 4>Hello.

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<v Speaker 1>Hello, Sorry Alex, I'm just laughing at Jeffrey right now.

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<v Speaker 4>Hi, I know past Jeffrey.

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<v Speaker 2>That's me. I'm a radio host on the show Brook

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<v Speaker 2>and Jeffrey in the Morning.

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<v Speaker 4>Hey Alex, Wait, what.

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<v Speaker 1>The whole show's here?

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<v Speaker 2>Man? Yeah, you're on the radio right now. We're just

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<v Speaker 2>hoping to have a nice, calm, pleasant conversation with you

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<v Speaker 2>today about what a date you went on recently with

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<v Speaker 2>one of our listeners. Her name is Lindsey. Please don't

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<v Speaker 2>hang up.

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<v Speaker 4>O my god.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, yeah, you remember lindsay, huh yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So we heard from her that you two went out

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<v Speaker 2>to dinner recently.

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<v Speaker 1>Which she thought was going great. She really was enjoying

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<v Speaker 1>her time with you.

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<v Speaker 2>And then there was the bad part of dinner, which

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<v Speaker 2>happened when you went missing from the restaurant.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, yep, yeah, you're just gonna own that. You're not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna apologize immediately.

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<v Speaker 2>So you admit that, you admit that happened, you walked out.

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<v Speaker 4>I take full credit for that.

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<v Speaker 2>What credit's got?

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<v Speaker 1>That's like a pride thing when you take credit or something.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you mean?

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<v Speaker 4>Because she probably didn't share with you, But I saw

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<v Speaker 4>her and her little friend before the date.

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<v Speaker 1>What little friendend?

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<v Speaker 4>Like, I don't know her little friend's name, her little girlfriend.

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<v Speaker 4>They were about a block away from the restaurant. Her

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<v Speaker 4>and her friend were involved in something else, so they

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<v Speaker 4>didn't notice me.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you see them do? That's so terrible.

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<v Speaker 4>Her friend is like, seems like she's coaching her for something.

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<v Speaker 4>So Lindsey says to her friend, oh, my uber app

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<v Speaker 4>is not working, can you pay for me? And she

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<v Speaker 4>like backed her eyes and working, and her friend said no,

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<v Speaker 4>just say a little more believably, she's coaching her.

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<v Speaker 1>Exactly exactly so she would have to pay for an

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<v Speaker 1>uber home.

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<v Speaker 4>She was like, my uber apps not working?

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<v Speaker 3>Did you pay for me?

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<v Speaker 4>It was like sociopathic the way she did it.

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<v Speaker 3>So you pathic the way I did it.

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<v Speaker 2>We have to let Alex know that that is Lindsay

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<v Speaker 2>on the line, would never.

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<v Speaker 3>What I'm hearing. What I'm hearing Alex is that you're

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<v Speaker 3>so so guys aren't supposed to help a girl get

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<v Speaker 3>home safely after.

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<v Speaker 2>Lindsay, you jumped in too soon, so we couldn't get

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<v Speaker 2>to what Alex was thinking. What was going through your mind?

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<v Speaker 4>Alex, I was thinking, and I feel like I have

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<v Speaker 4>proof because I witnessed your friend coaching you in getting

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<v Speaker 4>me to like pay for your uber and you playing

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<v Speaker 4>this like Damsel in distress act just to get free

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<v Speaker 4>stuff out of me.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know what he's talking about, Lindsay.

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<v Speaker 4>I was.

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<v Speaker 3>I was expecting to be able to get help getting home.

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<v Speaker 3>I just said that, and there's nothing wrong with that,

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<v Speaker 3>and so you were Your answer to that was a

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<v Speaker 3>get up and just leave dinner at the end and

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<v Speaker 3>leave me the bill, like I don't know, like an

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<v Speaker 3>immature loser.

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<v Speaker 1>Well the help, I mean, I want to know, like,

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<v Speaker 1>if you heard it before the date even started, why

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<v Speaker 1>did you do the date?

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<v Speaker 4>Because here's the thing. As soon as I heard her

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<v Speaker 4>planning to do that, I already knew she was going

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<v Speaker 4>to manipulate me.

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<v Speaker 3>So I was like, I'm going to be manipulate you.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, God forbid a guy helps a girl

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<v Speaker 3>get home. You know, usually people do that.

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<v Speaker 4>But you were practicing over and over again, you twine

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<v Speaker 4>laughing about it, you ask for helps.

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<v Speaker 3>And we think, like, I was like, huge, So what

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<v Speaker 3>do you not laugh with your friends? Like Jesus, you

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<v Speaker 3>made this evil plan and response to leave me and

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<v Speaker 3>like an idiot in the middle of the restaurant all alone,

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<v Speaker 3>like oh god, no.

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<v Speaker 4>One, I ordered the most expensive thing on the men.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, so that's just confirms you are you are.

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<v Speaker 2>Just a little Oh well, if anything, you guys are

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<v Speaker 2>both a little bit of manipulators.

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<v Speaker 4>No no, no, no, no, no no, I only scam the scammer.

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<v Speaker 4>I was ready to have a genuine date with her.

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<v Speaker 3>Shut up, I get hold after a few drinks safely,

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<v Speaker 3>and you decided up on a plan. I'm just I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know make you just want to make someone feel small.

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<v Speaker 3>You want to make women feel small.

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<v Speaker 4>You are not women, You are one person.

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<v Speaker 3>Great, So now I'm not a woman who deserves to

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<v Speaker 3>be not left an abandoned at a restaurant.

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<v Speaker 1>Why can't you afford your own uber?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes? Fine, you guys are not getting it. She was

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<v Speaker 4>practicing that her uber wasn't working. She can totally afford it.

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<v Speaker 4>She just wants to take the fool out of somebody.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, so chivalry is dead.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, chiv.

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<v Speaker 2>Lindy. It is a little bit sus that you're practicing

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<v Speaker 2>the line to say to like be like, can you

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<v Speaker 2>pay for my broken app? Owhn?

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<v Speaker 1>No, it's more than suss. It's like you got caught, girl,

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<v Speaker 1>You got caught scamming him for an uber ride.

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<v Speaker 3>I was not scamming.

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<v Speaker 1>You're not scamming. You're lying. You're lying to get what

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<v Speaker 1>you need.

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<v Speaker 2>I am just a shamed that Brooke was on Lindsay's

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<v Speaker 2>side this entire time. This is what happens.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, like, maybe Brook cannot be part of this anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, exactly, thank you for taking my side.

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<v Speaker 4>I think first sounds like a genuine individual who could

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<v Speaker 4>totally afford her own over right home.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, clearly, Brooke. There's always two sides to every story,

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<v Speaker 2>and you're on the wrong one every time.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I've never heard anyone in that room say that

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<v Speaker 1>before that there's two sides. I didn't hear that at all,

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<v Speaker 1>so weird.

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<v Speaker 2>Look, I mean, at this point, we're running out of time,

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<v Speaker 2>so I just have to ask we would.

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<v Speaker 1>I know there could be a lot of hot passion there.

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<v Speaker 2>Because we always offer to send you guys out on

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<v Speaker 2>another date, a date that we would pay for if

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<v Speaker 2>you're both willing to agree to it.

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<v Speaker 3>Just don't no, I can find a man who doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>mind getting me home after a few drinks.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't mind getting you home after a few drinks.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why I'm offering to pay.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, Lindsay, I'm actually kind of down at this point.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't fall for Lindsay. He's luring you in for another track.

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<v Speaker 3>One.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh what could I possibly weave this time?

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<v Speaker 1>Dude? And in the end, Alex, I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>you know this, but she never even paid for the dinner. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>waiter co.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what?

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<v Speaker 4>You know what? That makes me even happier that this

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<v Speaker 4>is all happening. On the radio.

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<v Speaker 2>What's happening on the radio.

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<v Speaker 4>That she is getting completely exposed for being the liar

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<v Speaker 4>manipulator that she is.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, this is funny now, Alex, Oh my god,

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<v Speaker 3>stove it around.

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<v Speaker 4>Takes one to know one, babe.

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<v Speaker 2>I think we've gotten pretty far in understanding what happens.

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<v Speaker 2>We finally reached common ground.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank god, you are such a champion of women, Jeffary.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right, I fixed all the problems.

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<v Speaker 1>I knew you was freaking Jeffrey in the morning.