1 00:00:04,428 --> 00:00:06,628 Speaker 1: Good Morning Football is the production of the NFL in 2 00:00:06,708 --> 00:00:26,308 Speaker 1: partnership with iHeartRadio Football. Hey, good morning. This is Good 3 00:00:26,308 --> 00:00:28,988 Speaker 1: Morning Football, presented by Old Trapper Beat Jerky Eager Life 4 00:00:29,028 --> 00:00:33,428 Speaker 1: Here in New York City, Wednesday, February fifteenth. I'm Jamie Urdaller's, 5 00:00:33,468 --> 00:00:36,268 Speaker 1: Kyle Warrant, Peter Schrieger, Jason mccordy. Jason, I'm all worried 6 00:00:36,268 --> 00:00:38,468 Speaker 1: about you, and you've said them a lot recently, like 7 00:00:38,788 --> 00:00:41,988 Speaker 1: no more football. We have months of no football. You're 8 00:00:41,988 --> 00:00:46,788 Speaker 1: gonna be all right? Probably not, But I have you 9 00:00:46,788 --> 00:00:50,388 Speaker 1: guys to help support me and be my my support system. 10 00:00:50,388 --> 00:00:54,108 Speaker 1: So your idea engine. Yes, I'm going to support that. 11 00:00:54,188 --> 00:00:56,828 Speaker 1: There's a professional pickleball league starting. We could talk to that. 12 00:00:56,868 --> 00:00:59,388 Speaker 1: If it's maybe I thought you meant to play. I 13 00:00:59,388 --> 00:01:01,268 Speaker 1: was about to say, maybe we can play. Let's do it. 14 00:01:01,508 --> 00:01:03,508 Speaker 1: We'll be in the same team. Time to leave black. 15 00:01:05,348 --> 00:01:09,188 Speaker 1: Yesterday news broke the Raiders, not really surprisingly, so they 16 00:01:09,268 --> 00:01:12,108 Speaker 1: released Derek Carr. The team tweeted out this statement from 17 00:01:12,108 --> 00:01:15,308 Speaker 1: head coach Josh McDaniels and Dave Ziggler quote, in part, 18 00:01:15,468 --> 00:01:17,468 Speaker 1: we have a lot of respect for Derek Carr and 19 00:01:17,508 --> 00:01:19,908 Speaker 1: what he has meant to the organization for the past 20 00:01:20,028 --> 00:01:22,388 Speaker 1: nine years. Honestly, listening to Derek Carr in the last 21 00:01:22,388 --> 00:01:24,588 Speaker 1: couple of weeks, he might not feel like he was 22 00:01:24,628 --> 00:01:26,308 Speaker 1: treated the same. But that's for a different part of 23 00:01:26,308 --> 00:01:29,068 Speaker 1: the conversation, Peter. Let's just dive into that. Yeah, why 24 00:01:29,148 --> 00:01:31,908 Speaker 1: was he released? So his contract was written that he 25 00:01:31,988 --> 00:01:34,748 Speaker 1: was guaranteed forty million dollars by the Raiders if he 26 00:01:34,788 --> 00:01:37,148 Speaker 1: was on the team. Seventy two hours after the Super Bowl, 27 00:01:37,228 --> 00:01:39,228 Speaker 1: they said, you can go explore trades, you can go 28 00:01:39,308 --> 00:01:41,348 Speaker 1: visit teams, you could do whatever you want. Visited the Saints. 29 00:01:41,348 --> 00:01:42,348 Speaker 1: A lot of people are like, oh, they're going to 30 00:01:42,388 --> 00:01:44,068 Speaker 1: train to the Saints. I told the Raiders I have 31 00:01:44,068 --> 00:01:45,868 Speaker 1: a no trade clause. I'd rather just pick anywhere I 32 00:01:45,908 --> 00:01:47,388 Speaker 1: want to go. You're not going to determine my fate 33 00:01:47,428 --> 00:01:48,868 Speaker 1: after you treated me the way you did at the 34 00:01:48,948 --> 00:01:51,428 Speaker 1: end of the season, So respect or not, which is 35 00:01:51,428 --> 00:01:54,148 Speaker 1: what the statement said, Derek Carr is now a pure 36 00:01:54,308 --> 00:01:57,468 Speaker 1: free agent and can sign anywhere. He said, I would 37 00:01:57,508 --> 00:01:59,628 Speaker 1: not allow the Raiders to dictate where I go, and 38 00:01:59,668 --> 00:02:01,548 Speaker 1: they're certainly not going to get compensation for me. So 39 00:02:01,588 --> 00:02:04,188 Speaker 1: the Raiders get nothing for Derek Carr he's a free agent. 40 00:02:04,628 --> 00:02:08,468 Speaker 1: So now there's a what's next atmosphere with Derek Carr 41 00:02:08,508 --> 00:02:10,908 Speaker 1: with the Raiders and how this offense and the organization 42 00:02:10,948 --> 00:02:12,868 Speaker 1: moves forward without a guy that they leaned on for 43 00:02:13,228 --> 00:02:17,548 Speaker 1: the last handful of years. So Kyle, what identity wise? Yeah? 44 00:02:17,588 --> 00:02:19,508 Speaker 1: Do you go here? What if he did want to 45 00:02:19,548 --> 00:02:21,468 Speaker 1: go to the Saints though, he just didn't want them 46 00:02:21,468 --> 00:02:23,148 Speaker 1: to trade him to the Saints so they could benefit 47 00:02:23,188 --> 00:02:24,828 Speaker 1: from it. Yes, it was like, released me and then 48 00:02:24,868 --> 00:02:26,548 Speaker 1: I'll sign as a free agent. You're not getting draft 49 00:02:26,588 --> 00:02:29,028 Speaker 1: that's crazy. Well, the other added thing too is being 50 00:02:29,028 --> 00:02:31,268 Speaker 1: a free agent, Peter like, he gets to he gets 51 00:02:31,268 --> 00:02:33,308 Speaker 1: to pick the litter right now and teams and like, 52 00:02:33,428 --> 00:02:35,868 Speaker 1: whereas everybody else gets to wait till March fifteenth. Right, 53 00:02:35,908 --> 00:02:38,228 Speaker 1: So it's interesting to be the first guy at the 54 00:02:38,268 --> 00:02:39,508 Speaker 1: front of the line and no one else is in 55 00:02:39,588 --> 00:02:42,348 Speaker 1: line behind you. Right here, I'm intrigued by forty million 56 00:02:42,428 --> 00:02:45,388 Speaker 1: guaranteed for this upcoming season. So if he's traded, his 57 00:02:45,548 --> 00:02:48,068 Speaker 1: contract just transfers over. Now as a free agent, he'll 58 00:02:48,108 --> 00:02:51,348 Speaker 1: negotiate the money contract. What's the money and what's the 59 00:02:51,388 --> 00:02:53,548 Speaker 1: money and what's the team. So that we've gone through 60 00:02:53,548 --> 00:02:56,148 Speaker 1: waves of this. We work here in New York and 61 00:02:56,388 --> 00:03:00,068 Speaker 1: SNY and I remember walking through here and seeing mockups 62 00:03:00,068 --> 00:03:02,188 Speaker 1: of Lamar Jackson in the Jets uniform, and Ione was 63 00:03:02,188 --> 00:03:03,908 Speaker 1: excited about that. And then it was gonna be Rogers 64 00:03:03,948 --> 00:03:06,308 Speaker 1: and Roger and everyone was excited about that. I was 65 00:03:06,388 --> 00:03:09,028 Speaker 1: kind of interested about the Jets fans about how do 66 00:03:09,108 --> 00:03:11,708 Speaker 1: they feel about Derek Carr. So before I put it up, 67 00:03:11,788 --> 00:03:13,428 Speaker 1: I did a poll. How do you guys think this 68 00:03:13,508 --> 00:03:16,188 Speaker 1: came out? I just said, Jets fans Derek Carr A 69 00:03:16,708 --> 00:03:20,988 Speaker 1: hell yes, b fine? I guess, or c dry heaving? 70 00:03:21,428 --> 00:03:22,868 Speaker 1: How do you think it came out? What's your gut? 71 00:03:22,868 --> 00:03:24,348 Speaker 1: What do you think? Jay? What do you think? Be fine? 72 00:03:24,468 --> 00:03:27,388 Speaker 1: Do you think fine? I guess I think sixty percent 73 00:03:27,548 --> 00:03:29,988 Speaker 1: dry heavings? Sixty percent? All right, I think one hundred 74 00:03:30,028 --> 00:03:33,428 Speaker 1: percent fine. I guess. Let's go to the poles. Let's 75 00:03:33,428 --> 00:03:36,748 Speaker 1: bring up the results. This is Jets fans. It's a fine. 76 00:03:36,748 --> 00:03:40,268 Speaker 1: I guess forty seven percent, hell yes, thirty percent, which 77 00:03:40,308 --> 00:03:42,948 Speaker 1: is impressive. So the dry heaving Jamie has got it 78 00:03:42,948 --> 00:03:44,868 Speaker 1: with you, but the people are not with us. It 79 00:03:44,908 --> 00:03:47,028 Speaker 1: just it feels like an extreme response from Jets fans, 80 00:03:47,028 --> 00:03:48,748 Speaker 1: which I feel like they always take Yeah, I was 81 00:03:48,788 --> 00:03:50,668 Speaker 1: going with the extreme us. Well, their take in the 82 00:03:50,868 --> 00:03:53,548 Speaker 1: discussion was it would be the best quarterback we've had 83 00:03:53,548 --> 00:03:55,988 Speaker 1: in a really, really long time. The thing that's fascinating 84 00:03:55,988 --> 00:03:58,588 Speaker 1: about Derek carrs he is very good, but he is 85 00:03:58,668 --> 00:04:02,908 Speaker 1: objectively not great by two Day's standards. So it's not 86 00:04:02,988 --> 00:04:05,108 Speaker 1: one of these things about, oh my god, let's get them, 87 00:04:05,108 --> 00:04:06,828 Speaker 1: no matter what, let's get him, let's get him. But 88 00:04:06,868 --> 00:04:08,868 Speaker 1: it's also like, man, he's pretty good, we should bring 89 00:04:08,908 --> 00:04:11,068 Speaker 1: him in here. It's never won a playoff game. The 90 00:04:11,108 --> 00:04:13,068 Speaker 1: only one he's ever been in he threw an interception 91 00:04:13,108 --> 00:04:16,708 Speaker 1: on the last play, So the legacy is complicated. Lamar 92 00:04:16,788 --> 00:04:20,468 Speaker 1: I get sexy as hell, MVP, He's won in the playoffs. 93 00:04:20,588 --> 00:04:22,948 Speaker 1: Rogers is Rogers. The car thing is kind of like, 94 00:04:22,988 --> 00:04:25,308 Speaker 1: are we winning the East? Are we fighting for the 95 00:04:25,348 --> 00:04:29,348 Speaker 1: FC with Derek Carr. We're in a psychological purgatory about it, 96 00:04:29,508 --> 00:04:31,388 Speaker 1: and I think the fans are too. I think it 97 00:04:31,468 --> 00:04:35,148 Speaker 1: would be hell yes, if there wasn't the conversation of 98 00:04:35,188 --> 00:04:38,628 Speaker 1: a possible Lamar jackson of a possible Aaron Rodgers. I 99 00:04:38,708 --> 00:04:41,428 Speaker 1: think that's what makes it up. Yeah, fine, I guess 100 00:04:41,588 --> 00:04:44,308 Speaker 1: because to that point, he'd be the best quarterback we've 101 00:04:44,308 --> 00:04:47,028 Speaker 1: seen in the Jet uniform in a very long time. 102 00:04:47,188 --> 00:04:49,828 Speaker 1: And there's so much discussion of what's next for Derek Carr, 103 00:04:49,868 --> 00:04:52,188 Speaker 1: but I go to more of what's next for the Raiders. 104 00:04:52,348 --> 00:04:54,828 Speaker 1: I mean, we talked about when they decided that they 105 00:04:54,828 --> 00:04:56,588 Speaker 1: were going to move on from Derek Carr towards the 106 00:04:56,668 --> 00:04:59,708 Speaker 1: end of the season, the possibility of Tom Brady coming 107 00:04:59,748 --> 00:05:03,988 Speaker 1: over to rejoin Josh McDaniels. Well Brady has retired since then. 108 00:05:04,828 --> 00:05:08,068 Speaker 1: Is it Aaron Rodgers coming over to rejoin his teammate 109 00:05:08,148 --> 00:05:11,468 Speaker 1: in DeVante Adams. Is it them going out to get 110 00:05:11,548 --> 00:05:14,748 Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo? Are they willing to now break the bank 111 00:05:14,948 --> 00:05:18,228 Speaker 1: to bring in another veteran quarterback who's coming in to 112 00:05:18,388 --> 00:05:20,748 Speaker 1: save the day and take them to the Super Bowl? 113 00:05:21,348 --> 00:05:23,588 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers a guy that we know. The relationship with 114 00:05:23,668 --> 00:05:26,588 Speaker 1: him and DeVante is great. Jimmy Garoppolo was with Josh 115 00:05:26,628 --> 00:05:29,108 Speaker 1: McDaniels when he was in New England and had a 116 00:05:29,148 --> 00:05:32,508 Speaker 1: ton of success there before being traded to the forty 117 00:05:32,548 --> 00:05:34,988 Speaker 1: nine Ers in the absence of Tom Brady when he 118 00:05:34,988 --> 00:05:36,788 Speaker 1: went through when he went through with the flat gate. 119 00:05:37,108 --> 00:05:39,308 Speaker 1: So yes, these two guys are options. But at the 120 00:05:39,348 --> 00:05:42,228 Speaker 1: same time, if you're the Raiders, we've watched now San 121 00:05:42,268 --> 00:05:45,388 Speaker 1: Francisco go through three quarterbacks and still be able to 122 00:05:45,468 --> 00:05:48,028 Speaker 1: go far into the playoffs and play an NFC Championship game. 123 00:05:48,348 --> 00:05:50,908 Speaker 1: I'm more intrigued to see what Ziggler does. Is it 124 00:05:51,028 --> 00:05:53,508 Speaker 1: a situation where, Hey, I have the number seventh pick 125 00:05:53,548 --> 00:05:55,708 Speaker 1: in the draft. Do I wait there to get my quarterback? 126 00:05:55,748 --> 00:05:57,388 Speaker 1: Do I move up? Do I say, you know what, 127 00:05:57,508 --> 00:05:59,828 Speaker 1: We're gonna ride it out with Jared Stidham this year, 128 00:05:59,868 --> 00:06:02,988 Speaker 1: and we're gonna continue to build our roster, and when 129 00:06:02,988 --> 00:06:06,108 Speaker 1: our quarterback comes to us organically, possibly in a second 130 00:06:06,188 --> 00:06:09,228 Speaker 1: round later on down in the draft, maybe we wait 131 00:06:09,268 --> 00:06:11,628 Speaker 1: there and the rosso is already set. Similar when you 132 00:06:11,668 --> 00:06:14,068 Speaker 1: think of Seattle when they got Russell Wilson wasn't the 133 00:06:14,108 --> 00:06:16,388 Speaker 1: top of the draft, but the roster around him was set. 134 00:06:16,388 --> 00:06:17,828 Speaker 1: They had to run a game, they had of defense, 135 00:06:17,908 --> 00:06:19,348 Speaker 1: and they were able to have a lot of success. 136 00:06:19,428 --> 00:06:21,588 Speaker 1: I think Derek cars in a very good position personally. 137 00:06:21,628 --> 00:06:24,708 Speaker 1: I think in another year, another off season, maybe those 138 00:06:24,708 --> 00:06:27,228 Speaker 1: seats are all filled. But on a napkin, basically here 139 00:06:27,508 --> 00:06:29,628 Speaker 1: Tampa Bay is gonna have a quarterback spot it'll be 140 00:06:29,668 --> 00:06:32,828 Speaker 1: him in Kyle Trask battling. Carolina is gonna have a quarterbacks, 141 00:06:32,868 --> 00:06:34,668 Speaker 1: I'll be him in a top ten pick. Most likely 142 00:06:34,988 --> 00:06:37,228 Speaker 1: New Orleans will have a quarterback spot. Both Dalton and 143 00:06:37,228 --> 00:06:39,908 Speaker 1: Winston are no longer gonna, you know, have those rosters 144 00:06:39,908 --> 00:06:43,068 Speaker 1: as QB one. We're going into this thing Washington. I mean, 145 00:06:43,148 --> 00:06:46,308 Speaker 1: is Sam Howell the hands down guy in Washington? Is 146 00:06:46,348 --> 00:06:50,308 Speaker 1: Tyler Heineken coming back the Jets if they do, you know, 147 00:06:50,548 --> 00:06:52,828 Speaker 1: not get so I look at him. I think this 148 00:06:52,868 --> 00:06:55,108 Speaker 1: is a great pass. That's why you say let's export Franta. See. 149 00:06:55,108 --> 00:06:56,588 Speaker 1: Maybe he doesn't make forty million, but if it makes 150 00:06:56,628 --> 00:06:58,388 Speaker 1: thirty five and he could pick and be a number 151 00:06:58,388 --> 00:07:00,668 Speaker 1: one quarterback and have his choice where he is. I 152 00:07:00,708 --> 00:07:02,668 Speaker 1: said the Miami Dolphins yesterday. I got crushed for it 153 00:07:02,708 --> 00:07:04,948 Speaker 1: by Dolphins fans. I'll just say this. I think the Dolphins, 154 00:07:04,988 --> 00:07:06,428 Speaker 1: when they come out and say we're going to explore 155 00:07:06,428 --> 00:07:08,468 Speaker 1: a veteran quarterback, they're not talking about exploring for case 156 00:07:08,548 --> 00:07:11,668 Speaker 1: Keenum or Fore McCoy. They're exploring an actual competition for 157 00:07:11,708 --> 00:07:14,188 Speaker 1: Tuah and maybe a fallback plan if Tua can't go. 158 00:07:14,388 --> 00:07:16,788 Speaker 1: So I think the Dolphins are a possibility. Still, Derek 159 00:07:16,788 --> 00:07:18,988 Speaker 1: Carr is in a very good position here, but he's 160 00:07:18,988 --> 00:07:22,708 Speaker 1: gonna have to probably play second fiddle to whatever happens 161 00:07:22,748 --> 00:07:25,428 Speaker 1: after this four day darkness retreat from Rogers. I think 162 00:07:25,508 --> 00:07:28,028 Speaker 1: Rogers holds the keys right now on all these teams, 163 00:07:28,028 --> 00:07:29,628 Speaker 1: and I don't think Rogers makes sense for a lot 164 00:07:29,628 --> 00:07:30,868 Speaker 1: of them. I don't think Rogers is going to be 165 00:07:30,868 --> 00:07:33,028 Speaker 1: a New Orleans Saint. Okay, I don't think Roger's going 166 00:07:33,068 --> 00:07:35,068 Speaker 1: to be a Carolina Panther. I don't see him as 167 00:07:35,108 --> 00:07:39,268 Speaker 1: a Washington commander. But if you're the Jets, if you're 168 00:07:39,268 --> 00:07:43,668 Speaker 1: the Raiders, you're certainly waiting on I'm not the Raiders, 169 00:07:43,708 --> 00:07:45,268 Speaker 1: but if you're the Jets, you're certainly waiting and seeing 170 00:07:45,308 --> 00:07:48,508 Speaker 1: how realistic the Aaron Rodgers thing is before you're signing 171 00:07:48,548 --> 00:07:50,108 Speaker 1: Derek Carr. I think I think you want to at 172 00:07:50,148 --> 00:07:52,508 Speaker 1: least see is there a way, Is there a chance? 173 00:07:52,548 --> 00:07:55,228 Speaker 1: I think Aaron Rodgers is far superior to Derek Carr 174 00:07:55,268 --> 00:07:57,468 Speaker 1: at this moment, even though he's older, even though he 175 00:07:57,548 --> 00:08:00,548 Speaker 1: had you know, it's similar season stat wise. Maybe if 176 00:08:00,548 --> 00:08:02,148 Speaker 1: you want to say everybody's moving an eye and yes, 177 00:08:02,148 --> 00:08:05,868 Speaker 1: say Rogerson McAfee and his final comment is about Lambeau 178 00:08:05,948 --> 00:08:08,748 Speaker 1: eighteen years, it'll always be home. That is something that 179 00:08:08,788 --> 00:08:11,348 Speaker 1: someone says when they're done. But maybe that's just him 180 00:08:11,388 --> 00:08:13,748 Speaker 1: messing around. I don't know, but that is a pretty 181 00:08:13,788 --> 00:08:16,308 Speaker 1: loaded I think. Okay, so the Jets also real quick 182 00:08:16,348 --> 00:08:19,868 Speaker 1: connection wise, Nathaniel Hackett is with is with the Jets. 183 00:08:19,868 --> 00:08:23,708 Speaker 1: Who is like Rogers's dude, Todd Downing was just signed 184 00:08:23,788 --> 00:08:26,668 Speaker 1: as an offensive consultant slash thing. He was with Tennessee, 185 00:08:27,348 --> 00:08:29,988 Speaker 1: he's now with the Jets. He was with Car for 186 00:08:30,148 --> 00:08:33,868 Speaker 1: years in Oakland together. So you can't just say, all right, 187 00:08:33,868 --> 00:08:36,788 Speaker 1: oh this guy. Either way, whoever the Jets get, if 188 00:08:36,828 --> 00:08:40,628 Speaker 1: it's Car or Rogers, they've both have their guys larger. 189 00:08:40,788 --> 00:08:43,268 Speaker 1: They've got a trade for a very expensive free agent. 190 00:08:44,948 --> 00:08:47,108 Speaker 1: I have an exercise over the next couple of days 191 00:08:47,108 --> 00:08:49,708 Speaker 1: I think we should do before we entered like true 192 00:08:49,748 --> 00:08:53,708 Speaker 1: offseason territory, which is like an urgency factor, like a 193 00:08:53,788 --> 00:08:57,228 Speaker 1: win now magnitude, if you will, Because I look at 194 00:08:57,228 --> 00:08:58,668 Speaker 1: the Jets and I look at the fact that they 195 00:08:58,708 --> 00:09:01,788 Speaker 1: just swept the Rookie of the Year awards, and while 196 00:09:01,828 --> 00:09:04,228 Speaker 1: it would be nice and pretty to win next year, 197 00:09:04,468 --> 00:09:05,748 Speaker 1: I think the Jets need to be on more of 198 00:09:05,788 --> 00:09:08,308 Speaker 1: a five year plan than a one year plan, and 199 00:09:08,668 --> 00:09:12,348 Speaker 1: Rogers to me, financially, it doesn't really make sense. He's great, 200 00:09:12,388 --> 00:09:14,108 Speaker 1: but you don't have a guarantee that he's going to 201 00:09:14,188 --> 00:09:16,588 Speaker 1: be your guy after one year, after two years. So 202 00:09:16,828 --> 00:09:18,548 Speaker 1: even if you were to break the bank and spend 203 00:09:18,628 --> 00:09:20,428 Speaker 1: him ringing in just to win next year, I think 204 00:09:20,428 --> 00:09:22,868 Speaker 1: the Jets need to be building because they have the 205 00:09:22,908 --> 00:09:26,508 Speaker 1: tools currently to go on a great run. Here, great coach, 206 00:09:26,668 --> 00:09:29,468 Speaker 1: great rookies. I think keep building on that and don't 207 00:09:29,588 --> 00:09:31,668 Speaker 1: bend over backwards to get a guy like Rogers commit. 208 00:09:31,708 --> 00:09:33,268 Speaker 1: The Raiders to me are on the opposite side of 209 00:09:33,268 --> 00:09:35,468 Speaker 1: the urgency skill. I think they have a great defense 210 00:09:35,548 --> 00:09:38,188 Speaker 1: with guys that they added last year. Josh Jacobs is 211 00:09:38,188 --> 00:09:40,708 Speaker 1: about to hopefully sign a new deal there he'll be 212 00:09:40,788 --> 00:09:43,308 Speaker 1: on his second contract. Davante Adams to me holds the 213 00:09:43,348 --> 00:09:46,228 Speaker 1: key here with the Raiders too, because he's Derek Carr's guy. 214 00:09:46,468 --> 00:09:48,308 Speaker 1: Was so cute that they had this Fresden estate room 215 00:09:48,428 --> 00:09:51,388 Speaker 1: and didn't plan out well and bless Davante adams soul. 216 00:09:51,468 --> 00:09:54,228 Speaker 1: He continues to tweet, how you know that's my man? 217 00:09:54,468 --> 00:09:56,868 Speaker 1: You know we're brothers. We get it. Okay, that's great, 218 00:09:56,988 --> 00:09:58,748 Speaker 1: he's not your quarterback anymore. But who is it going 219 00:09:58,788 --> 00:10:00,948 Speaker 1: to be? Is thereon Roger still your guy? There was 220 00:10:00,948 --> 00:10:03,548 Speaker 1: that awkward quote last year where it was like Hall 221 00:10:03,588 --> 00:10:06,428 Speaker 1: of Famer hall famer, no one really got to the 222 00:10:06,468 --> 00:10:09,108 Speaker 1: point where he would. But if Aaron Rodgers is going 223 00:10:09,148 --> 00:10:11,068 Speaker 1: to get there, I think the Raiders are a team 224 00:10:11,068 --> 00:10:13,308 Speaker 1: that could spend because they do need to win now. 225 00:10:13,348 --> 00:10:15,428 Speaker 1: I think Josh mcdown's is a head coach that needs 226 00:10:15,468 --> 00:10:17,108 Speaker 1: to win in the next one to two two years 227 00:10:17,188 --> 00:10:19,428 Speaker 1: or his namesake as a head coach it's not going 228 00:10:19,468 --> 00:10:21,988 Speaker 1: to pan out well, So I'm an urgency factor. I 229 00:10:22,028 --> 00:10:24,588 Speaker 1: think the Raiders they need to spend a little bit 230 00:10:24,628 --> 00:10:27,868 Speaker 1: more to win sooner than the Jets do. I agree. 231 00:10:27,868 --> 00:10:29,388 Speaker 1: And I think the one thing you said, Jay that 232 00:10:29,468 --> 00:10:31,508 Speaker 1: I can't see is the says something about, well the 233 00:10:31,588 --> 00:10:33,908 Speaker 1: Raiders just play at chill like ride out Jared's did 234 00:10:33,988 --> 00:10:35,748 Speaker 1: or whatever. I don't just don't think the ownership will 235 00:10:35,788 --> 00:10:37,308 Speaker 1: do that. And I don't think the optics there. The 236 00:10:37,348 --> 00:10:39,708 Speaker 1: Super Bowl is coming to Las Vegas. They care about optics, 237 00:10:39,788 --> 00:10:42,308 Speaker 1: They care about winning. McDaniels needs a winning season. I 238 00:10:42,308 --> 00:10:44,828 Speaker 1: think they have to do something bold especially with car 239 00:10:44,988 --> 00:10:47,108 Speaker 1: leaving and kind of I don't know, deep panting them 240 00:10:47,108 --> 00:10:49,068 Speaker 1: as he walks out, you know, like in the in 241 00:10:49,108 --> 00:10:51,468 Speaker 1: the headlines, like you need to strike back, like the 242 00:10:51,468 --> 00:10:53,348 Speaker 1: autumn wind is a raider. Like let's see something. You 243 00:10:53,428 --> 00:10:55,548 Speaker 1: made a really big point. Though, the Packers have to 244 00:10:55,628 --> 00:10:58,268 Speaker 1: trade Aaron Rod So break it down. It's cars, a 245 00:10:58,308 --> 00:11:00,228 Speaker 1: free agent car, you can signed car or whatever. You 246 00:11:00,308 --> 00:11:02,628 Speaker 1: got to trade everything for Roger and the Packers have 247 00:11:02,668 --> 00:11:05,388 Speaker 1: to agree to give it. Like Rogers is significantly better, 248 00:11:05,468 --> 00:11:09,028 Speaker 1: you know, like yes, And also if the Packers trade 249 00:11:09,228 --> 00:11:13,068 Speaker 1: trade Rogers before June fifteenth is designation. The Packers don't 250 00:11:13,028 --> 00:11:15,588 Speaker 1: have to eat forty million dollars or June first, which 251 00:11:15,628 --> 00:11:18,028 Speaker 1: is crazy, Peter, when you say he holds the keys 252 00:11:18,068 --> 00:11:20,668 Speaker 1: after his darkness retweet, that's in four days. Like if 253 00:11:20,668 --> 00:11:23,308 Speaker 1: the Packers don't want to eat that financially, everyone is 254 00:11:23,308 --> 00:11:25,348 Speaker 1: then waiting till June fifth, then he still holds the 255 00:11:25,388 --> 00:11:27,548 Speaker 1: keys because he can just hold out. And he doesn't 256 00:11:27,548 --> 00:11:29,388 Speaker 1: have a no trade too, so then that's weird. He 257 00:11:29,428 --> 00:11:31,748 Speaker 1: doesn't have what car head not. It's clean, right, if 258 00:11:31,748 --> 00:11:33,028 Speaker 1: you just want to be done and have a quarterback. 259 00:11:33,028 --> 00:11:35,068 Speaker 1: He signed Eric Cardamara, right, if you want to really 260 00:11:35,188 --> 00:11:37,788 Speaker 1: roll the dice, you wait on this Rogers Express whatever that. 261 00:11:37,948 --> 00:11:40,108 Speaker 1: Can we push it one more? Give us a state 262 00:11:40,108 --> 00:11:43,508 Speaker 1: of Lamar. What's going on? It's so mysterious. It's reporting 263 00:11:43,508 --> 00:11:46,548 Speaker 1: from Ian Rappaport earlier in the week and Sunday just 264 00:11:46,628 --> 00:11:48,628 Speaker 1: that the thought now is he will be franchise tag. 265 00:11:48,708 --> 00:11:51,028 Speaker 1: But the question is franchise tag and then they hold 266 00:11:51,028 --> 00:11:53,428 Speaker 1: on to him or franchise tag and then traded. But 267 00:11:53,708 --> 00:11:58,548 Speaker 1: the hiring of Todd Monkin is interesting. College OC with Georgia, 268 00:11:58,548 --> 00:12:00,268 Speaker 1: but of course had a long NFL career before that. 269 00:12:00,548 --> 00:12:02,868 Speaker 1: We haven't heard from Lamar himself. If you're French, he's 270 00:12:02,908 --> 00:12:04,828 Speaker 1: not out there Super Bowl like every quarter backs out there. 271 00:12:04,908 --> 00:12:07,828 Speaker 1: Lamar was not there, Yeah, which I mean he dealt 272 00:12:07,828 --> 00:12:09,548 Speaker 1: with an injury like I have no reason to be 273 00:12:09,748 --> 00:12:11,788 Speaker 1: and he's on the brink of getting paid. I have 274 00:12:11,828 --> 00:12:13,588 Speaker 1: no reason to be there to be paid. Guys go 275 00:12:13,708 --> 00:12:16,468 Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl to me, yeah, if you get franchise. Second, Lamar, 276 00:12:16,508 --> 00:12:18,548 Speaker 1: you don't show up to camp, right, I wouldn't wag. 277 00:12:18,628 --> 00:12:23,428 Speaker 1: Why would you like that? Then? What do we wait? Yeah? Hey, hey, 278 00:12:23,748 --> 00:12:26,468 Speaker 1: welcome to Tod Monkin looked in his Georgia quarterback room 279 00:12:26,508 --> 00:12:28,148 Speaker 1: and was like, oh, Seth and Bennett can't come back 280 00:12:28,148 --> 00:12:30,028 Speaker 1: for a seventeenth season. I guess I'll go back to 281 00:12:30,028 --> 00:12:33,108 Speaker 1: the NFL. That's awesome for him. Let's talk here, enemy, Jason. 282 00:12:33,468 --> 00:12:35,908 Speaker 1: He's gonna help he helps the Chiefs get get another 283 00:12:35,908 --> 00:12:38,228 Speaker 1: Super Bowl ring. But Jay's gonna tell us more about 284 00:12:38,268 --> 00:12:40,188 Speaker 1: why you to turn into head coach, No doubt about it. 285 00:12:40,188 --> 00:12:42,188 Speaker 1: He's helped him get two rings. Now, so let's talk 286 00:12:42,188 --> 00:12:56,428 Speaker 1: about We've been waiting our next guest. You guessed that 287 00:12:56,548 --> 00:12:58,828 Speaker 1: he was one of the greatest middle linebackers this century. 288 00:12:58,828 --> 00:13:01,628 Speaker 1: He's way eight seasons. He was a five time All Pro, 289 00:13:01,828 --> 00:13:03,828 Speaker 1: seven time Pro Bowler, and a member of the two 290 00:13:03,868 --> 00:13:07,068 Speaker 1: thousand and ten and All Decade TEA. Please welcome former 291 00:13:07,148 --> 00:13:13,348 Speaker 1: NFL linebacker Loocky. What's up? Guys? How are thanks for 292 00:13:13,428 --> 00:13:14,788 Speaker 1: having me on? This is gonna be great. And the 293 00:13:14,788 --> 00:13:16,868 Speaker 1: reason why it's great is because you see, you're at 294 00:13:16,868 --> 00:13:19,748 Speaker 1: a football field. It's like constant panther blew behind you. 295 00:13:19,788 --> 00:13:22,268 Speaker 1: But you're not in Carolina. You are in Berlin, my friend. 296 00:13:22,308 --> 00:13:24,588 Speaker 1: Part of a broader effort by the Carolina Panthers to 297 00:13:24,628 --> 00:13:26,748 Speaker 1: promote football in Germany. What's going on there in the 298 00:13:26,748 --> 00:13:28,508 Speaker 1: football clinics that you have been taken a part of 299 00:13:28,508 --> 00:13:30,668 Speaker 1: the past couple as. Yeah, so we've had a full slate. 300 00:13:30,708 --> 00:13:33,468 Speaker 1: We got in Sunday morning, Super Bowl Sunday Sunday night, 301 00:13:33,468 --> 00:13:36,308 Speaker 1: we had a watch party at OnTrack Frankfort, which was 302 00:13:36,348 --> 00:13:38,468 Speaker 1: one of the local soccer teams here, and it was awesome. 303 00:13:38,468 --> 00:13:40,708 Speaker 1: The energy that these fans brought that night for the 304 00:13:40,748 --> 00:13:43,268 Speaker 1: game was unbelievable. Didn't start until midnight and went all 305 00:13:43,308 --> 00:13:45,068 Speaker 1: the way at about five o'clock and they stuck it 306 00:13:45,108 --> 00:13:47,068 Speaker 1: out the whole time. And now we're on our second 307 00:13:47,068 --> 00:13:48,988 Speaker 1: camp of the week. We've got one more tomorrow and 308 00:13:49,068 --> 00:13:51,868 Speaker 1: just teaching fundamental disease kids. We're starting early with flag 309 00:13:51,908 --> 00:13:53,988 Speaker 1: football teaching them and it's just been a lot of 310 00:13:54,028 --> 00:13:55,708 Speaker 1: fun for us so far. All Right, So you're in 311 00:13:55,788 --> 00:13:58,788 Speaker 1: Germany during Super Bowl Sunday. I can't imagine you envisioned 312 00:13:58,828 --> 00:14:00,908 Speaker 1: that a few years back, but you're there and a 313 00:14:00,908 --> 00:14:03,948 Speaker 1: bunch of fans attended the Super Bowl watch party in Frankfurt. 314 00:14:04,468 --> 00:14:06,428 Speaker 1: Is it like watching the Super Bowl with a bunch 315 00:14:06,468 --> 00:14:09,028 Speaker 1: of German football fans. I'll tell you what they knew 316 00:14:09,028 --> 00:14:11,228 Speaker 1: exactly what's going on? They have teams that they love. 317 00:14:11,268 --> 00:14:12,988 Speaker 1: We had a lot of Panthers blue, which was great, 318 00:14:13,028 --> 00:14:14,788 Speaker 1: but the energy that they bring to the games was 319 00:14:14,988 --> 00:14:16,988 Speaker 1: really stuck out. Like I said, they understand it. They 320 00:14:16,988 --> 00:14:19,508 Speaker 1: all know what's going on. They understand penalties, they understand 321 00:14:19,508 --> 00:14:22,228 Speaker 1: third down situational stuff. But I think the biggest thing 322 00:14:22,308 --> 00:14:24,548 Speaker 1: is they know what's going on inside the game. It's 323 00:14:24,548 --> 00:14:26,588 Speaker 1: not like they're just watching and cheering. Because they're cheering, 324 00:14:26,588 --> 00:14:29,748 Speaker 1: they understand the game. They understand why stuff happens. Obviously, 325 00:14:29,748 --> 00:14:31,828 Speaker 1: with Philly and all the analytical stuff that they do, 326 00:14:31,988 --> 00:14:33,628 Speaker 1: they had a great feel for that. So it was 327 00:14:34,268 --> 00:14:36,748 Speaker 1: a great experience they got. They brought tremendous energy and 328 00:14:36,788 --> 00:14:39,028 Speaker 1: it was something that we're really excited to do. Yeah, 329 00:14:39,068 --> 00:14:41,028 Speaker 1: I love that. A Super Bowl feature in the Kansas 330 00:14:41,028 --> 00:14:43,988 Speaker 1: City Chiefs and the Philadelphia Eagles and we're watching there 331 00:14:44,028 --> 00:14:47,468 Speaker 1: and we just see all these Panthers jerseys and all 332 00:14:47,508 --> 00:14:50,988 Speaker 1: the Panthers gear. There's even a Twitter and Instagram handle 333 00:14:51,028 --> 00:14:54,748 Speaker 1: called Panthers Deutschland explain how the Panthers have grown just 334 00:14:54,788 --> 00:14:57,588 Speaker 1: such a passionate fan base over in Germany over the 335 00:14:57,668 --> 00:14:59,868 Speaker 1: last several years. Yeah, it's been a big effort for 336 00:14:59,988 --> 00:15:02,188 Speaker 1: us you know, dating back years, but twenty nineteen, we 337 00:15:02,268 --> 00:15:04,388 Speaker 1: kind of started with the German area on the website. 338 00:15:04,588 --> 00:15:06,708 Speaker 1: That really helped us get going. We're the first team 339 00:15:06,748 --> 00:15:09,148 Speaker 1: over here in Berlin to kind of activate over here. 340 00:15:09,308 --> 00:15:11,388 Speaker 1: We've had a tremendous time that the fans have been 341 00:15:11,388 --> 00:15:13,988 Speaker 1: really receptive, and I think it's been very conscious effort 342 00:15:14,028 --> 00:15:16,708 Speaker 1: for the Carolina Panthers to get over here and just 343 00:15:16,748 --> 00:15:18,668 Speaker 1: be a part of this community because they have so 344 00:15:18,748 --> 00:15:21,148 Speaker 1: much support for us. And you know, I obviously loved 345 00:15:21,148 --> 00:15:22,708 Speaker 1: the game of football. It's been a big part of 346 00:15:22,708 --> 00:15:24,788 Speaker 1: my life and it's a big part of people's lives 347 00:15:24,828 --> 00:15:26,268 Speaker 1: over here as well. So we're just we're just super 348 00:15:26,308 --> 00:15:27,748 Speaker 1: happy to be here. It was super happy that you're 349 00:15:27,788 --> 00:15:30,668 Speaker 1: there too, Luke. We loved watching you play, genuinely, it 350 00:15:30,708 --> 00:15:33,268 Speaker 1: was it was a pleasure. During the commercial break, Jason's 351 00:15:33,308 --> 00:15:35,708 Speaker 1: revealing that he did not like playing against you was 352 00:15:35,828 --> 00:15:38,148 Speaker 1: rather annoying. Jason, tell the people why, and let's get 353 00:15:38,188 --> 00:15:40,428 Speaker 1: Luke's thoughts on it. Yeah, playing against Luke, I was 354 00:15:40,428 --> 00:15:42,908 Speaker 1: playing for the Titians. It was down in Nashville, and 355 00:15:43,028 --> 00:15:45,628 Speaker 1: every time this guy would make a tackle in Nashville 356 00:15:45,668 --> 00:15:50,988 Speaker 1: in our own stadium, the entire crowd, and it was 357 00:15:51,028 --> 00:15:53,988 Speaker 1: just so annoying, especially as a defensive player, watching him 358 00:15:53,988 --> 00:15:56,868 Speaker 1: make one hundred tackles and then Cam Newton dancing in 359 00:15:56,948 --> 00:16:00,228 Speaker 1: the back of our in zone. Hey, I remember that game. 360 00:16:00,268 --> 00:16:02,788 Speaker 1: That was a great year. Cam was definitely dancing. But 361 00:16:02,868 --> 00:16:05,588 Speaker 1: I think you know our fans are they travel really well. 362 00:16:05,668 --> 00:16:07,068 Speaker 1: It was a ton of fun. I had a great 363 00:16:07,108 --> 00:16:09,268 Speaker 1: time playing in Carolina, and I was kind of telling 364 00:16:09,308 --> 00:16:11,348 Speaker 1: you guys off air too. My grandma thought they were 365 00:16:11,348 --> 00:16:13,468 Speaker 1: booing me, and my dad had a step in there 366 00:16:13,468 --> 00:16:15,948 Speaker 1: and he didn't help the situation either. I think he greed. 367 00:16:15,948 --> 00:16:17,468 Speaker 1: He's I don't know why they're booing him. They must 368 00:16:17,508 --> 00:16:20,588 Speaker 1: not like him, but eventually he filled her in, honest. 369 00:16:20,628 --> 00:16:22,468 Speaker 1: So it was a ton of fun. We've got We've 370 00:16:22,468 --> 00:16:24,708 Speaker 1: got great fans. They've always traveled really well, and you know, 371 00:16:24,748 --> 00:16:27,428 Speaker 1: playing Carolina was something really special. Yeah, Luke, let's talk 372 00:16:27,468 --> 00:16:30,068 Speaker 1: about your time in Carolina. You were teammates with James 373 00:16:30,068 --> 00:16:33,748 Speaker 1: Bradberry and Greg Olson, who both in different ways, played 374 00:16:33,788 --> 00:16:36,388 Speaker 1: a big role in Super Bowl fifty seventh. Let's listen 375 00:16:36,428 --> 00:16:39,188 Speaker 1: in to how Olsen and you call some radio games 376 00:16:39,188 --> 00:16:40,508 Speaker 1: for Carolina, so you know what it's like to be 377 00:16:40,628 --> 00:16:43,548 Speaker 1: up in that booth along with Kevin Burkhart called Bradberry's 378 00:16:43,588 --> 00:16:49,268 Speaker 1: holding penalty late in the fourth quarter, Homes pressure lofting 379 00:16:49,348 --> 00:16:52,708 Speaker 1: one end zone in complete, Juju Smith Schuster couldn't catch up. 380 00:16:52,748 --> 00:16:55,868 Speaker 1: There's a flag at the ten. Hang on, there's a penalty. 381 00:16:56,228 --> 00:16:59,428 Speaker 1: You'll see James Bradberry. They're gonna say he grabs him, 382 00:16:59,788 --> 00:17:01,708 Speaker 1: got his left hand on his back. I don't know. 383 00:17:02,068 --> 00:17:04,628 Speaker 1: I think on this stage, I think you let him play. 384 00:17:04,628 --> 00:17:06,868 Speaker 1: Obviously Mahomes thought he saw it. I think I don't know. 385 00:17:06,908 --> 00:17:09,108 Speaker 1: I think you let him play. Finish this thing out, 386 00:17:09,948 --> 00:17:12,228 Speaker 1: all right. Here's the three part question, Luke, did you 387 00:17:12,268 --> 00:17:14,428 Speaker 1: see the play? What do you think of it? How 388 00:17:14,468 --> 00:17:17,308 Speaker 1: do you think your former teammates handled that moment? Bradbury 389 00:17:17,348 --> 00:17:20,388 Speaker 1: taking responsibility for the penalty, but also Olson's call and 390 00:17:20,508 --> 00:17:23,148 Speaker 1: his opinion in that moment. I think with James. I 391 00:17:23,228 --> 00:17:26,268 Speaker 1: played with James for four years in Carolina, and he 392 00:17:26,588 --> 00:17:29,468 Speaker 1: is the best. I love that guy. He's smart, he's competitive, 393 00:17:29,548 --> 00:17:31,828 Speaker 1: and as you can tell, he took responsibility. But you 394 00:17:31,828 --> 00:17:34,628 Speaker 1: know what, I'm a defensive guy. I'm with James. I 395 00:17:34,628 --> 00:17:36,388 Speaker 1: would have done the same thing. I think, you know, 396 00:17:36,428 --> 00:17:38,148 Speaker 1: you gotta let those guys play. I think, you know, 397 00:17:38,148 --> 00:17:40,348 Speaker 1: if from a defensive guy, the receiver's got play a 398 00:17:40,388 --> 00:17:42,828 Speaker 1: little stronger. He can't let that hole do anything to him. 399 00:17:42,828 --> 00:17:45,148 Speaker 1: But hey, I'm a defensive guy, so I'm gonna say 400 00:17:45,148 --> 00:17:47,428 Speaker 1: I'm gonna side. I'm gonna side with James, I'm gonna 401 00:17:47,428 --> 00:17:50,028 Speaker 1: side with Greg. You know, three of us teammates. We 402 00:17:50,028 --> 00:17:52,108 Speaker 1: all got to stick together. But I think Greg's done 403 00:17:52,108 --> 00:17:54,468 Speaker 1: a phenomenal job this year at Fox. He was tremendous. 404 00:17:54,908 --> 00:17:56,828 Speaker 1: And then James had another great year as a second 405 00:17:56,828 --> 00:17:59,908 Speaker 1: team All Pro, special player, special guy. And I'm a 406 00:17:59,948 --> 00:18:02,348 Speaker 1: defensive guy, so I'm gonna side with those guys and say, hey, 407 00:18:02,668 --> 00:18:05,628 Speaker 1: big situation, let him play because the defensive perspective is 408 00:18:05,668 --> 00:18:08,148 Speaker 1: always going to win. So, Luke, you hung them up. 409 00:18:08,148 --> 00:18:10,148 Speaker 1: After eight years, you are at the top of the game. 410 00:18:10,268 --> 00:18:12,468 Speaker 1: You're now a few years removed from that. What's the 411 00:18:12,548 --> 00:18:16,548 Speaker 1: one thing that you miss most from lining up against 412 00:18:16,548 --> 00:18:18,868 Speaker 1: those guys and go in a battle every week? The 413 00:18:18,868 --> 00:18:20,948 Speaker 1: thing you missed I think everybody will agree on this, Jason, 414 00:18:20,988 --> 00:18:23,108 Speaker 1: you can definitely speak to this. Is you miss just 415 00:18:23,148 --> 00:18:25,668 Speaker 1: being around the guys, waking up, going in, eating breakfast 416 00:18:25,748 --> 00:18:28,228 Speaker 1: with the guys, being a locker room, traveling on buses, 417 00:18:28,268 --> 00:18:30,748 Speaker 1: on planes, in the locker rooms after games. We had 418 00:18:30,788 --> 00:18:33,028 Speaker 1: so much fun. And when you look back on your 419 00:18:33,028 --> 00:18:35,068 Speaker 1: crew and we all get together, we get guys together 420 00:18:35,108 --> 00:18:38,188 Speaker 1: and have breakfast, lunch, hang out, everybody talks about the 421 00:18:38,228 --> 00:18:40,348 Speaker 1: experiences that they had off the field. I mean, we 422 00:18:40,428 --> 00:18:41,988 Speaker 1: played in big games. We were in the Super Bowl, 423 00:18:42,028 --> 00:18:45,268 Speaker 1: the NFC Championship game, won some division championships in Carolina. 424 00:18:45,348 --> 00:18:47,308 Speaker 1: What everybody talks about is, Hey, do you remember after 425 00:18:47,348 --> 00:18:49,188 Speaker 1: that game when we were on the plane and blah 426 00:18:49,228 --> 00:18:51,828 Speaker 1: blah blah blah blah. All that stuff is what guys remember. 427 00:18:51,828 --> 00:18:55,308 Speaker 1: And I'm just I'm thinking about stuff right now that 428 00:18:55,388 --> 00:18:57,468 Speaker 1: was that had We had so much fun with that. 429 00:18:57,628 --> 00:18:59,508 Speaker 1: You know, you can't find that anywhere else, but it was. 430 00:18:59,668 --> 00:19:01,868 Speaker 1: We had a special group, We had a special organization. 431 00:19:01,868 --> 00:19:03,708 Speaker 1: We had a special group of guys in a city 432 00:19:03,708 --> 00:19:05,868 Speaker 1: that was really behind us, and it was a special place. 433 00:19:05,908 --> 00:19:07,628 Speaker 1: So I was very fortunate to end up in Carolina. 434 00:19:07,748 --> 00:19:10,028 Speaker 1: That's great, Luke. Well, I'm sure the NFL greaz that 435 00:19:10,068 --> 00:19:12,308 Speaker 1: they must be so proud have you over in Germany 436 00:19:12,348 --> 00:19:15,068 Speaker 1: all week long representing the league, the game and as 437 00:19:15,108 --> 00:19:17,588 Speaker 1: you said, Carolina Panthers fans. They travel well. Hopefully they 438 00:19:17,628 --> 00:19:19,668 Speaker 1: have a future traveling to Germany to watch their team play, 439 00:19:19,668 --> 00:19:21,508 Speaker 1: and I'm sure you'll be right there with them as 440 00:19:21,508 --> 00:19:24,068 Speaker 1: a great ambassador. Awesome to talk to you today, louke Keekley. 441 00:19:24,108 --> 00:19:25,748 Speaker 1: Good to see you, Lou. Yeah, thanks for having me. 442 00:19:25,748 --> 00:19:30,308 Speaker 1: Guys appreciate it. Absolutely. We've talked about for the past hour. 443 00:19:30,708 --> 00:19:34,308 Speaker 1: Philadelphia Eagles coordinators Jonathan Gan and Shane Steike and both 444 00:19:34,308 --> 00:19:38,588 Speaker 1: becoming head coaches in the NFL getting their opportunity to 445 00:19:38,828 --> 00:19:42,988 Speaker 1: shine and to lead a franchise. Absolutely love it. There's 446 00:19:43,028 --> 00:19:46,228 Speaker 1: a guy, though, that still hasn't gotten that opportunity who 447 00:19:46,228 --> 00:19:48,828 Speaker 1: we've talked about for several years on a team that 448 00:19:48,868 --> 00:19:52,228 Speaker 1: has done a lot of winning. His head coach is 449 00:19:52,308 --> 00:19:55,828 Speaker 1: even surprised that he hasn't gotten a chance to lead 450 00:19:55,868 --> 00:19:58,668 Speaker 1: a franchise. And he talked about him right after the 451 00:19:58,708 --> 00:20:02,228 Speaker 1: Super Bowl confetti falling. This is what Andy Reid talked 452 00:20:02,268 --> 00:20:05,708 Speaker 1: about Kerk the Enemy. It was tremendous down the stretch 453 00:20:05,748 --> 00:20:09,268 Speaker 1: there putting things together. Eric bi Enemy hass been tremendous 454 00:20:09,308 --> 00:20:12,148 Speaker 1: for us and I think is tremendous for the National 455 00:20:12,188 --> 00:20:15,188 Speaker 1: Football League and hoping he has an opportunity to go 456 00:20:15,268 --> 00:20:19,428 Speaker 1: somewhere and you know, do his thing, where he can 457 00:20:19,708 --> 00:20:24,188 Speaker 1: run the show and be Eric bi enemy, Eric bi enemy, 458 00:20:24,548 --> 00:20:28,708 Speaker 1: Eric Bienimy, Eric Bienimy, Eric Bienimy. Year after year, we 459 00:20:28,828 --> 00:20:31,868 Speaker 1: continue to hear his name and say he deserves an 460 00:20:31,908 --> 00:20:35,508 Speaker 1: opportunity to lead a team and to do his thing 461 00:20:35,828 --> 00:20:38,908 Speaker 1: what Andy Reid said, And some people took that as, oh, yeah, 462 00:20:38,948 --> 00:20:41,188 Speaker 1: Andy Reid is saying to him, you need to leave, 463 00:20:41,268 --> 00:20:43,428 Speaker 1: and you need to go somewhere and run the show 464 00:20:43,468 --> 00:20:46,588 Speaker 1: on offense and let it be yours. We've heard links 465 00:20:46,588 --> 00:20:49,388 Speaker 1: to him in the commander's job and interviewing to become 466 00:20:49,428 --> 00:20:52,388 Speaker 1: their OC. I took it as do your own thing, 467 00:20:52,748 --> 00:20:55,868 Speaker 1: as in, you get the job to run the entire franchise, 468 00:20:56,108 --> 00:20:59,508 Speaker 1: to control the offense, to lead to defense, to structure 469 00:20:59,588 --> 00:21:04,068 Speaker 1: the special team's unit, everything every facet within an organization. 470 00:21:04,748 --> 00:21:07,348 Speaker 1: Why should Eric Biennemy have to leave to do so. 471 00:21:07,428 --> 00:21:09,548 Speaker 1: Why should he have to go to the commanders, Why 472 00:21:09,548 --> 00:21:11,668 Speaker 1: should he have to go to a different team to 473 00:21:11,788 --> 00:21:15,268 Speaker 1: be the offensive coordinator with a defensive minded head coach. 474 00:21:15,308 --> 00:21:17,588 Speaker 1: As Peter talked about on Twitter, he should have the 475 00:21:17,628 --> 00:21:20,348 Speaker 1: opportunity to lead right from where he is much like 476 00:21:20,468 --> 00:21:24,068 Speaker 1: a guy like Matt Naggie got the opportunity underneath Andy Reid, 477 00:21:24,188 --> 00:21:26,628 Speaker 1: much like a guy like Doug Peterson who got the 478 00:21:26,628 --> 00:21:30,828 Speaker 1: opportunity under Andy Reid. The Enemy became the offensive coordinator 479 00:21:30,988 --> 00:21:33,548 Speaker 1: for the Chiefs in two thousand and eighteen. I want 480 00:21:33,588 --> 00:21:35,948 Speaker 1: to know how those Chiefs have done on offense while 481 00:21:36,028 --> 00:21:38,108 Speaker 1: BI Enemy has been there. And I know Andy Reid 482 00:21:38,268 --> 00:21:40,388 Speaker 1: as the head coach, he's the guy calling the plays. 483 00:21:40,668 --> 00:21:43,388 Speaker 1: BI Enemy has played a huge part. We watched the 484 00:21:43,468 --> 00:21:46,148 Speaker 1: corn Dog motions and we talked about the Enemy was 485 00:21:46,188 --> 00:21:48,908 Speaker 1: a guy who saw that on film when Jacksonville ran 486 00:21:48,988 --> 00:21:52,268 Speaker 1: it against the Eagles earlier in the season. This guy's 487 00:21:52,308 --> 00:21:55,908 Speaker 1: been unbelievable there. Mahomes talked about it after the game. 488 00:21:55,948 --> 00:21:57,988 Speaker 1: How much b Enemy has meant to him, how he 489 00:21:58,108 --> 00:22:01,068 Speaker 1: holds him accountable, something that we talk about we want 490 00:22:01,068 --> 00:22:05,148 Speaker 1: from our coaching staff every single level. The City Chiefs 491 00:22:05,148 --> 00:22:08,108 Speaker 1: have won two Super Bowls in the last four years, 492 00:22:08,308 --> 00:22:10,868 Speaker 1: have gone to three of them. The Enemy has been 493 00:22:10,868 --> 00:22:13,588 Speaker 1: there and has coached the entire time and for all 494 00:22:13,628 --> 00:22:15,388 Speaker 1: of this. Hey, this guy needs to be able to 495 00:22:15,428 --> 00:22:18,228 Speaker 1: call plays to become a head coach in the NFL, 496 00:22:18,468 --> 00:22:21,468 Speaker 1: where there's many that haven't. Sirianni, a coach that was 497 00:22:21,548 --> 00:22:24,588 Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl that played this past Sunday, did 498 00:22:24,628 --> 00:22:28,188 Speaker 1: not call plays before he got his opportunity to become 499 00:22:28,228 --> 00:22:31,508 Speaker 1: a head coach. The Miami Dolphins hired Mike McDaniel, coming 500 00:22:31,548 --> 00:22:34,268 Speaker 1: from under Kyle Shanahan who was the offensive coordinator, but 501 00:22:34,308 --> 00:22:37,588 Speaker 1: did not call the plays before getting his opportunity to 502 00:22:37,628 --> 00:22:39,868 Speaker 1: become a head coach. The list can go on and on. 503 00:22:39,988 --> 00:22:42,788 Speaker 1: Dan Campbell is now the head coach of the Detroit Lions. 504 00:22:42,948 --> 00:22:45,628 Speaker 1: He had never called plays in an entire career before 505 00:22:45,628 --> 00:22:47,908 Speaker 1: he became a head coach for the Lions. You can 506 00:22:47,908 --> 00:22:50,908 Speaker 1: go to Kevin O'Connell who was underneath McVeigh, Zach Taylor 507 00:22:50,948 --> 00:22:53,268 Speaker 1: who was underneath McVeigh, And yes, you can say some 508 00:22:53,308 --> 00:22:55,668 Speaker 1: of these guys, well they called plays at other times 509 00:22:55,708 --> 00:22:58,188 Speaker 1: in their career. Well, Eric by enemy called plays for 510 00:22:58,228 --> 00:23:00,948 Speaker 1: the University of Colorado. He's done it before in his 511 00:23:01,028 --> 00:23:03,508 Speaker 1: career too. And for so many of us in sports 512 00:23:03,508 --> 00:23:06,348 Speaker 1: media we talk about is every single year the league 513 00:23:06,348 --> 00:23:09,028 Speaker 1: puts out initiatives and say hey, we want more black 514 00:23:09,108 --> 00:23:12,028 Speaker 1: head coaches. We continue to go on that opposite direction. 515 00:23:12,028 --> 00:23:14,948 Speaker 1: And there's a candidate like Eric Biannimy, who still hasn't 516 00:23:14,948 --> 00:23:17,428 Speaker 1: gotten his chance to lead a franchise and be a 517 00:23:17,508 --> 00:23:25,908 Speaker 1: head coach. Great, he's interviewed sixteen different teams, he's interviewed 518 00:23:25,908 --> 00:23:27,868 Speaker 1: for the head coach, and he's ooth for sixteen. He's 519 00:23:27,948 --> 00:23:29,748 Speaker 1: got a new agent. Maybe that would change things up. 520 00:23:29,948 --> 00:23:32,388 Speaker 1: The theory that I put on Twitter was everyone's asking, 521 00:23:32,628 --> 00:23:33,748 Speaker 1: what the hell does this guy have to do to 522 00:23:33,748 --> 00:23:36,868 Speaker 1: get what? He interviews poorly? What does that even mean? 523 00:23:37,308 --> 00:23:40,588 Speaker 1: So the thought is if he joins Ron Rivera in Washington, 524 00:23:40,708 --> 00:23:43,388 Speaker 1: which is a possibility, you can't say anything after that. 525 00:23:43,508 --> 00:23:45,588 Speaker 1: He shouldn't have to do that. I'm with you, Jason, 526 00:23:45,708 --> 00:23:47,388 Speaker 1: I think I'd love eb I think he's the man. 527 00:23:47,548 --> 00:23:49,468 Speaker 1: He's a great offensive coordinator. He's a great man. He's 528 00:23:49,468 --> 00:23:52,308 Speaker 1: a great ambassador of the sport. Seeing the two Eagles 529 00:23:52,308 --> 00:23:54,348 Speaker 1: coordinators get hired as great for them and their families. 530 00:23:54,388 --> 00:23:56,828 Speaker 1: But also anytime a coach get tired, it's not Eric Baname. 531 00:23:57,148 --> 00:24:00,308 Speaker 1: You feel it's a it's a really kind of gross 532 00:24:00,348 --> 00:24:02,588 Speaker 1: moving of the goalposts. At times, I think of him 533 00:24:02,588 --> 00:24:05,188 Speaker 1: and like creating the standard that seems to only apply 534 00:24:05,228 --> 00:24:07,668 Speaker 1: to him when you're trying to look for excuses why 535 00:24:07,708 --> 00:24:10,028 Speaker 1: he hasn't gotten a job like that yet. Sixteen times 536 00:24:10,108 --> 00:24:12,508 Speaker 1: is a ridiculous number for a man who, when you 537 00:24:12,508 --> 00:24:15,268 Speaker 1: look at that graphic, is jarring to look at just 538 00:24:15,588 --> 00:24:17,948 Speaker 1: what he has done with that offense since he was 539 00:24:18,028 --> 00:24:20,068 Speaker 1: hired as the offensive coordina or chosen to the office 540 00:24:20,548 --> 00:24:24,348 Speaker 1: in twenty eighteen. It's pretty amazing. Jalen Hurts was spectacular, 541 00:24:24,668 --> 00:24:27,308 Speaker 1: played maybe the best game of his career. We'll turn 542 00:24:27,308 --> 00:24:30,308 Speaker 1: over a new leaf and we'll hear why Philly has 543 00:24:30,348 --> 00:24:33,428 Speaker 1: something special. Hit some specism, Philly Ryan leaf is coming on. 544 00:24:33,548 --> 00:24:35,708 Speaker 1: I'm sure he was really impressed. From the number two 545 00:24:35,748 --> 00:24:53,188 Speaker 1: overall pick TikTok dances. Yeah, maybe in the pocket Mahomes 546 00:24:53,188 --> 00:24:55,828 Speaker 1: with time over the middle, Juju smish sister catch at 547 00:24:55,868 --> 00:24:58,908 Speaker 1: the thirty. I'll pick up of fourteen yards out of 548 00:24:58,908 --> 00:25:01,428 Speaker 1: the shotgun. Mahomes rolling the shoulder one a double move 549 00:25:01,508 --> 00:25:03,628 Speaker 1: throws at late catch made over the middle, diving catch 550 00:25:03,628 --> 00:25:07,868 Speaker 1: at the twenty five. A pass left sidewide, open skyboard, touchdown, 551 00:25:08,748 --> 00:25:12,308 Speaker 1: Kansas City. They're gonna throw a quick pass to Tony. 552 00:25:12,348 --> 00:25:15,188 Speaker 1: He's got it on the edge. People walk into the zone. 553 00:25:15,588 --> 00:25:23,148 Speaker 1: Touchdown City. The Chiefs Championship, a super Bowl fifty seven. 554 00:25:25,628 --> 00:25:27,548 Speaker 1: I don't think this is a crazy statement. One of 555 00:25:27,548 --> 00:25:30,548 Speaker 1: the boldest decisions in the history of the NFL when 556 00:25:30,548 --> 00:25:33,788 Speaker 1: it comes to offseason roster management was the Chief's decision 557 00:25:33,828 --> 00:25:36,788 Speaker 1: to trade Tyreek Hill last March. Tyreek is the Chiefs 558 00:25:36,788 --> 00:25:39,868 Speaker 1: franchise record holder in just about every statistic you can imagine. 559 00:25:39,908 --> 00:25:42,188 Speaker 1: But more than that, he's also like a beloved player 560 00:25:42,308 --> 00:25:45,388 Speaker 1: by the organization, by the fans, still by the quarterback. 561 00:25:45,388 --> 00:25:47,148 Speaker 1: And yet when the rubber hit the road, Chief general 562 00:25:47,148 --> 00:25:49,588 Speaker 1: Manager Brett Beach made a very difficult and in many 563 00:25:49,708 --> 00:25:53,388 Speaker 1: chief fan chat forums and message boards, wildly unpopular decision 564 00:25:53,468 --> 00:25:56,388 Speaker 1: to trade Tyreek Hill to Miami. Tyreek got a thirty 565 00:25:56,388 --> 00:25:59,388 Speaker 1: million dollar contract with the Dolphins, and he was awesome 566 00:25:59,468 --> 00:26:02,028 Speaker 1: this year. He finished as a finalist for Offensive Player 567 00:26:02,028 --> 00:26:04,268 Speaker 1: of the Year. He was tremendous, and yet the chief 568 00:26:04,828 --> 00:26:07,948 Speaker 1: they did find a way without him. Let's go through 569 00:26:07,948 --> 00:26:10,908 Speaker 1: the Chiefs wide receivers room. Juju Smith. Schuster signed a 570 00:26:10,948 --> 00:26:15,068 Speaker 1: one year deal with Kansas City led the Chiefs wide 571 00:26:15,068 --> 00:26:17,548 Speaker 1: outs with seventy eight catches this year, had nearly a 572 00:26:17,588 --> 00:26:21,148 Speaker 1: thousand receiving yards, and then he had six catches in 573 00:26:21,188 --> 00:26:23,708 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, five of them coming in the second half. 574 00:26:23,828 --> 00:26:27,828 Speaker 1: Juju was huge when they needed him most. Then there's mvs. 575 00:26:28,428 --> 00:26:31,468 Speaker 1: He'd left Aaron Rodgers and Green Bay when Patrick Mahomes 576 00:26:31,548 --> 00:26:34,348 Speaker 1: made a recruitment call. Mahomes called and was like, we 577 00:26:34,388 --> 00:26:36,068 Speaker 1: need to dude, and he was there. He was on 578 00:26:36,628 --> 00:26:39,388 Speaker 1: And when injuries struck the wide receiver's room across the board, 579 00:26:39,428 --> 00:26:42,468 Speaker 1: it was Valdes Scantling who stepped up with six catches 580 00:26:42,868 --> 00:26:46,148 Speaker 1: one hundred sixteen yards and the game changing touchdown in 581 00:26:46,188 --> 00:26:51,068 Speaker 1: the AFC Championship game against the Bengals. How about sky Moore. 582 00:26:51,228 --> 00:26:54,348 Speaker 1: Skymore came into the league with a rookie, with a 583 00:26:54,348 --> 00:26:56,868 Speaker 1: ton of hype and all sorts of expectations. Early on, 584 00:26:56,908 --> 00:26:59,828 Speaker 1: it didn't happen right away, but he exceeded everything with 585 00:26:59,948 --> 00:27:02,628 Speaker 1: the big punt return in the AFEC Championship game and 586 00:27:02,668 --> 00:27:06,428 Speaker 1: then the final touchdown in the Super Bowl that put 587 00:27:06,548 --> 00:27:11,668 Speaker 1: the Chiefs up for good. How about Coldarius Tony aka 588 00:27:11,828 --> 00:27:15,868 Speaker 1: the Young Joker, that's his rat name. He was acquired 589 00:27:15,908 --> 00:27:19,588 Speaker 1: at a trade when the Giants swapped him a former 590 00:27:19,628 --> 00:27:22,188 Speaker 1: first round pick of Theirs for sixty cents on the dollar, 591 00:27:22,268 --> 00:27:24,668 Speaker 1: and then there was the punt return. It was everything 592 00:27:24,868 --> 00:27:28,588 Speaker 1: sixty five yards, the longest in Super Bowl history. Caldarius 593 00:27:28,668 --> 00:27:31,388 Speaker 1: Tony not only scored a touchdown in this game, but 594 00:27:31,548 --> 00:27:34,588 Speaker 1: had the biggest play of the game with this return 595 00:27:34,668 --> 00:27:36,348 Speaker 1: all the way to the five yard Like guys, the 596 00:27:36,428 --> 00:27:39,468 Speaker 1: Chiefs were ten and oh when Codarius Tony took the 597 00:27:39,508 --> 00:27:41,588 Speaker 1: field for them this season, and they won the Super Bowl. 598 00:27:42,828 --> 00:27:45,948 Speaker 1: Justin Watson came over on a one year deal from 599 00:27:45,948 --> 00:27:48,388 Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Minimal, one year, one million dollars. He's a 600 00:27:48,428 --> 00:27:52,308 Speaker 1: pen guy. The Week eighteen game against the Raiders, Justin 601 00:27:52,388 --> 00:27:56,428 Speaker 1: Watson had a sixty seven yard pass reception to lock 602 00:27:56,628 --> 00:27:59,548 Speaker 1: in and lock up that one seed for the Kansas 603 00:27:59,588 --> 00:28:01,588 Speaker 1: City Chiefs when they took on the Raiders in Week eighteen. 604 00:28:01,708 --> 00:28:06,548 Speaker 1: That pass was the longest completion from Patrick Mahomes all season. Last, 605 00:28:06,548 --> 00:28:10,628 Speaker 1: but not least, is the old head talking about McCole Hardman. 606 00:28:11,108 --> 00:28:12,948 Speaker 1: McCole Hardman is the old head. Why don't I say 607 00:28:12,988 --> 00:28:14,308 Speaker 1: old head because he's been there for four years. You 608 00:28:14,348 --> 00:28:16,748 Speaker 1: know how old he is. He's twenty four years old. 609 00:28:16,828 --> 00:28:19,548 Speaker 1: He had four receiving touchdowns in the regular season when 610 00:28:19,588 --> 00:28:22,268 Speaker 1: injury kept him from the Super Bowl. That's okay because 611 00:28:22,308 --> 00:28:25,468 Speaker 1: Hardman was busy on Sunday, here was the tweet, Oh 612 00:28:25,508 --> 00:28:30,028 Speaker 1: my god, her water broke. Yes, Mcole Hardman, he had 613 00:28:30,068 --> 00:28:33,748 Speaker 1: a big moment on Sunday as well. He's bought. Now 614 00:28:34,348 --> 00:28:37,548 Speaker 1: the Chiefs. They made a major move in trading Tyree Hill, 615 00:28:37,628 --> 00:28:39,868 Speaker 1: and you know what, it worked out for both sides. 616 00:28:39,868 --> 00:28:41,628 Speaker 1: The Dolphins got one of the greatest wide receivers in 617 00:28:41,628 --> 00:28:43,628 Speaker 1: the league and an Offensive Player of the Year finalist. 618 00:28:44,348 --> 00:28:47,788 Speaker 1: With the Chiefs, they came out. Okay, they paid all 619 00:28:47,788 --> 00:28:52,468 Speaker 1: those receivers a combined twenty million dollars, ten million dollars 620 00:28:52,548 --> 00:28:55,028 Speaker 1: less than what Tyreek is making as a singular player 621 00:28:55,028 --> 00:28:57,228 Speaker 1: for the Dolphins in Miami. I want to shout out 622 00:28:57,268 --> 00:28:59,428 Speaker 1: the receiver's room in Kansas City. They heard a lot 623 00:28:59,468 --> 00:29:01,748 Speaker 1: about what they couldn't do all off season, but when 624 00:29:01,788 --> 00:29:04,388 Speaker 1: it mattered most, they were there and they were awesome 625 00:29:04,468 --> 00:29:07,508 Speaker 1: Chief swat outs. This one's for you, m I love that. 626 00:29:07,988 --> 00:29:10,268 Speaker 1: I love that. Well done. And this reminds me you 627 00:29:10,308 --> 00:29:12,508 Speaker 1: look at Kobe and Shack and he wins the championship, 628 00:29:12,548 --> 00:29:14,548 Speaker 1: and then Shack leaves and he wins the championship with 629 00:29:14,588 --> 00:29:17,588 Speaker 1: pau Gasol, And for so many years we've all marveled 630 00:29:17,588 --> 00:29:19,508 Speaker 1: at the fact that Brady has been able to win 631 00:29:19,588 --> 00:29:23,828 Speaker 1: championships while there hasn't been the always superstar around him. 632 00:29:23,828 --> 00:29:26,548 Speaker 1: He finds guys obviously I Grant and other guys, and 633 00:29:26,588 --> 00:29:28,948 Speaker 1: now you have Patrick Mahomes. He got to contract and 634 00:29:28,988 --> 00:29:32,508 Speaker 1: now he's making everybody better. Veterans like Valdes s Candling 635 00:29:32,548 --> 00:29:35,428 Speaker 1: and Juju Smith Schuster coming over knowing that they have 636 00:29:35,468 --> 00:29:37,668 Speaker 1: a chance to win a Super Bowl because a guy 637 00:29:37,708 --> 00:29:40,588 Speaker 1: like Mahomes is there. It really also screams to the 638 00:29:40,628 --> 00:29:42,748 Speaker 1: fact that of what Eric the enemy can do with 639 00:29:42,788 --> 00:29:45,268 Speaker 1: whoever is in the room and whoever is a part 640 00:29:45,308 --> 00:29:48,108 Speaker 1: of the offense. And clearly he works well enough with 641 00:29:48,188 --> 00:29:51,148 Speaker 1: Andy Reid knowing what Patrick Mahomes brings to the games. 642 00:29:51,308 --> 00:29:53,508 Speaker 1: But also doesn't matter if we're the four of us 643 00:29:53,508 --> 00:29:55,188 Speaker 1: are coming out of that room the enemy and Reid 644 00:29:55,228 --> 00:29:56,868 Speaker 1: will be able to drop something that would work for 645 00:29:56,908 --> 00:29:58,788 Speaker 1: a team. And we cost a lot less than twenty 646 00:29:58,948 --> 00:30:01,868 Speaker 1: hired for a job and now exactly some way atle 647 00:30:01,908 --> 00:30:04,388 Speaker 1: slower than those guys too. Still they make it work. 648 00:30:04,628 --> 00:30:08,588 Speaker 1: We've checked down, can't he can't underestimate though, like when 649 00:30:08,668 --> 00:30:12,028 Speaker 1: that was scary as hell. Yeah, we've talked a lot 650 00:30:12,068 --> 00:30:14,508 Speaker 1: about Paul rud today because he's a Chiefs fan, because 651 00:30:14,508 --> 00:30:16,428 Speaker 1: he has his Aunt Man movie coming out. He tells 652 00:30:16,428 --> 00:30:18,468 Speaker 1: the story of when he and his son Jack were 653 00:30:18,548 --> 00:30:21,468 Speaker 1: in Europe and they found out, as diehard Chiefs fans, 654 00:30:21,508 --> 00:30:23,508 Speaker 1: that the news broke that Tyreek was leaving, and his 655 00:30:23,708 --> 00:30:27,188 Speaker 1: Jack screamed like in I think, in horror and fear, 656 00:30:27,388 --> 00:30:31,748 Speaker 1: like how do you let Tyreek go? Took major, major stones. Yeah, 657 00:30:31,788 --> 00:30:33,588 Speaker 1: it takes a lot of that to sign someone. I 658 00:30:33,628 --> 00:30:35,988 Speaker 1: think it even takes more to let someone go a 659 00:30:36,108 --> 00:30:38,468 Speaker 1: one of one talents and he'd be like, sorry, We're 660 00:30:38,468 --> 00:30:42,068 Speaker 1: just gonna make do without you. We did countless discussions 661 00:30:42,108 --> 00:30:44,908 Speaker 1: about can they win without Tyreek and sometimes the answer 662 00:30:44,948 --> 00:30:46,908 Speaker 1: was I'm not sure, and they just want everything. Yeah. 663 00:30:47,228 --> 00:30:50,468 Speaker 1: And like the Packers they traded DeVante Adams and they 664 00:30:50,508 --> 00:30:53,828 Speaker 1: missed the playoffs. Yeah, like it happens. It could very 665 00:30:53,868 --> 00:30:55,908 Speaker 1: easily have happened. All these guys stepped up and they 666 00:30:55,908 --> 00:30:58,228 Speaker 1: all made major contributions. One thing on Tony, which I 667 00:30:58,228 --> 00:30:59,988 Speaker 1: think is interesting. You mentioned Andy Reid and Eric b 668 00:31:00,108 --> 00:31:01,788 Speaker 1: Enemy could Eric so Tony didn't fit in New York. 669 00:31:01,788 --> 00:31:03,348 Speaker 1: He didn't fit in with that coaching staff, he didn't 670 00:31:03,348 --> 00:31:05,988 Speaker 1: fit in with their building. Andy Reid makes it work. 671 00:31:06,268 --> 00:31:07,828 Speaker 1: It's a lot different when you have to be the 672 00:31:08,028 --> 00:31:11,188 Speaker 1: guy opposed to one of the interesting