1 00:00:03,320 --> 00:00:06,480 Speaker 1: All right, boys, we are here, Coach Hart. Coach Brian 2 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:09,360 Speaker 1: Hartline before we get into the episode. As you know, 3 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:13,080 Speaker 1: because you are you follow the boys. Boys, we gotta read. 4 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:16,119 Speaker 1: Chevy Chevrolet is a trusted company that's been innovating for 5 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:19,240 Speaker 1: the last one hundred years. Up to now, most electric 6 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 1: vehicles have been either too expensive, too small, or too 7 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 1: limited in their capabilities for most people. Chevy is committed 8 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:29,840 Speaker 1: to making EV's available for all Americans. There is a 9 00:00:29,880 --> 00:00:33,320 Speaker 1: growing network of public charging stations and over nineteen hundred 10 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 1: certified Chevy EV dealerships. 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I think we were going 19 00:00:57,480 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 2: to go to Iowa. 20 00:00:58,080 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 1: But then when you reached out and then I was like, 21 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 1: oh yeah, Brian Hartline, weird flex, but it's a flex. 22 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 1: Brian Hartline follows me. I will DM him and be like, hey, 23 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 1: what are we talking like, let's start the Coty No. 24 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 1: He responded to a tweet. I was like, Yo, you guys, 25 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:13,120 Speaker 1: come on Columbus. 26 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 2: Yeah. 27 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:15,680 Speaker 4: So, dude, of all the places when we were going 28 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:17,320 Speaker 4: through like spring football tour, what should do? 29 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:18,319 Speaker 2: This is like back in December. 30 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, I was like, bro, it'd be sick to go 31 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 4: to Ohio State just to like see the differences and 32 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:22,960 Speaker 4: stuff like that. 33 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 2: But I thought there was no way. There's no chance 34 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:26,960 Speaker 2: they're gonna let us in there. And you sold out? 35 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 4: Was like, I literally sold out, sold out our life. 36 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 4: Columbus only only sold out live. 37 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 2: Show the spot Man Wild. That's fair, just crazy. 38 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:34,480 Speaker 1: Uh. 39 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:38,840 Speaker 2: First question, yeah, are you happy for Michigan? I'm never 40 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 2: I never am. 41 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 1: No. 42 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:42,840 Speaker 2: No, I mean yeah, do you think it's good for 43 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 2: the robbery? Yes? You in a weird way, you are happy. 44 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 2: I love like everyone hating everybody. 45 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, you played here and now you coach here, like 46 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 3: played here and coached here and never planned on coaching 47 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 3: and and uh yeah, I h I hate I hate 48 00:01:59,120 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 3: to up North. 49 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 2: And I tell you what, Yeah, it's funny how you 50 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 2: guys are scared to hear her name. Yeah, I love that. 51 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 4: You know what, you guys should do next year in 52 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:10,359 Speaker 4: ann Arbor, something real disrespectful, like and like like the sixties. 53 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:12,079 Speaker 4: I always remember seeing this like black and white video 54 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:14,919 Speaker 4: of the Hollow State team running and pulling down the banner. 55 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:16,520 Speaker 2: Okay, I remember that one back in the day, right 56 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 2: way back in the day. 57 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 4: We're talking about like black and white TV. You guys 58 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 4: should do something like that. Yeah, really ignite the fire. Yeah, 59 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 4: I think, Uh, I think the fire is lit. You know, 60 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:27,919 Speaker 4: I think I think it's pretty good right now. I'm 61 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 4: kind of you know, it's gonna be a heck of 62 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 4: a game. We talked about the importance of it and 63 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 4: how big it is and hearing your boys good forward 64 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 4: to him? 65 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:37,079 Speaker 3: Manis what pissed you off most about that second half 66 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 3: last year losing? Outside of losing, uh, it was being 67 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 3: a yeah yeah no head coach Arthur smith A. We 68 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:49,920 Speaker 3: were supposed to have her in last year. Do you 69 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 3: have any comments to be the assistant height end coach. 70 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:54,359 Speaker 2: I don't want to get in trouble, but I'm gonna 71 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 2: fight for you will. Yeah, I appreciate that's all we 72 00:02:56,440 --> 00:02:59,920 Speaker 2: need to hear the available. 73 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:03,359 Speaker 5: Yeah, I appreciate you guys. You're ten point two. You 74 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 5: all saw the punt set out there. We will be 75 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 5: we will be back. Yes, I'll send my list of demands. 76 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 5: Don't worry. 77 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 2: That is wild. Yes, I know wave the physical, wave 78 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 2: the physically. You're part of the part of the I'm 79 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 2: part of that. You're part of them. 80 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 4: Yes, you're two hundred and seventy pounds left tackle. Hey, 81 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 4: real quick, let's get some flowers of art. Like what 82 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:23,679 Speaker 4: a dog. 83 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:26,919 Speaker 2: Dude, he really is the best coach. Oh yeah, he 84 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:30,519 Speaker 2: is one believable. He never I never got the play 85 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:31,520 Speaker 2: for him, got to know him. 86 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:34,359 Speaker 4: Awesome, dude, awesome. He was the assistant titands coming. When 87 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 4: I first got there, we would be like before practice 88 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 4: would start, like right after warm ups. Yep, he would 89 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:40,840 Speaker 4: stand in the corner and hold of football and we 90 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 4: would have to run and try to punch the ball 91 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 4: out on him. And I would tackle him to the 92 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 4: ground and hit him as hard as I could. And 93 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 4: now he's the head coach of the Falcons. There's a 94 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 4: reason why he walked up. 95 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 2: The willing on me. So he thanks you. I mean 96 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 2: I did make him tougher. 97 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 4: But so talk about a self made man from a 98 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 4: like if they always say like showed me the son 99 00:03:56,800 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 4: of a billionaire. You'll never see a self made man. 100 00:03:58,280 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 4: That's a self made man. It's invable. 101 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 3: I don't think people realize his back like the true 102 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 3: store people don't know. 103 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 2: I know, like that's the craziest thing to x. 104 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 1: The sun of FedEx basically actually because not at all 105 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 1: hold yours. 106 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 2: I'm gonna go get mine. He's gonna go get hit 107 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 2: hard way. Then Will Compson will be on the team 108 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 2: this year. 109 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 3: Nice with the list of man's yeah we. 110 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:22,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, we'll get right. But back to the what 111 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:24,279 Speaker 1: pissed you off most? Outside of losing in the second 112 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 1: half of that Michigan game, I would say, uh, in 113 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:30,280 Speaker 1: obvious run situation, I would say that it would be 114 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 1: the we only scored twenty some points. I mean, we're 115 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 1: the best we can be. Was we're the best offense 116 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 1: in the country, and we didn't execute at a high level. 117 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 3: So you know, I don't look anywhere else besides ourselves, 118 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:46,920 Speaker 3: and that's how I feel about that. 119 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 2: So there's gotta be some part of you though. 120 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:53,599 Speaker 4: Yeah, watching the defense give up two back to back 121 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:56,839 Speaker 4: seventy plus yard runs in the fourth you know, I 122 00:04:56,839 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 4: would say, because if you if you watch it, they're 123 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 4: in man in the corner. The receiver runs them off 124 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 4: and literally runs the corner into the safety and that's 125 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 4: what got Edwards to run that first run. And then 126 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:09,359 Speaker 4: they literally ran the same play the other way next play. 127 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 4: That's not a shot. I guess it is a shot. 128 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:14,040 Speaker 4: But I'm not trying to be disrespectful. I'm just a 129 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:14,720 Speaker 4: little ball here. 130 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, a little ball. 131 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 2: I mean, okay, I mean that was the ten second play. 132 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 3: Let's go. Now our term. We got to run it 133 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:21,360 Speaker 3: back and account for that. But we're rolling, you know 134 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:22,919 Speaker 3: what I mean, So in our heads, I. 135 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 2: Don't know. 136 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 3: I mean, I guess it's better than a eight minute 137 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 3: drive where you don't have a chance maybe to respond. 138 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:32,279 Speaker 2: But now we can respond. 139 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 3: And anytime the ball's back in our hands on offense, man, 140 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 3: we feel in a good spot, put in our hands 141 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:37,800 Speaker 3: and we'll operate that way. 142 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:39,600 Speaker 2: That's all. That's all we care about. I was here 143 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:41,040 Speaker 2: for the first quarter of that game. We did. 144 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 4: I had a college game day and then I went 145 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 4: and watched and you wash your wide receiver crew or 146 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 4: walk out on that fiel and you're like this is terrifying. 147 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 4: Like you guys went like what twelve plays in the 148 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 4: first drive, Yeah, down there, I think you only got three, 149 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:55,040 Speaker 4: but like, yep, beat it out, Ohio States. 150 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:56,599 Speaker 2: Thing is like, hey, we score fast, and we score 151 00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 2: in a hurry. 152 00:05:57,160 --> 00:05:58,839 Speaker 4: And when I saw them controlling the clock in the 153 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 4: first like series of the game, I thought to myself, 154 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 4: oh boy, we're in trouble. 155 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:04,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, the boys might be. 156 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:06,360 Speaker 1: They got a room now, Like I see the kicks. 157 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:08,679 Speaker 1: You guys can get these kicks. I see the kicks, 158 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 1: the time piece. Obviously you have the background being a 159 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 1: receiver yourself. Are you the swaggiest? I don't think you coach. 160 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 3: I don't think you should ever like self promote. I 161 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 3: think you should just let everybody else talk about it. 162 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 3: So whatever they think they think, I mean, I'm not 163 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 3: gonna like answer that. 164 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 1: I think it takes a confident I mean a confident 165 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 1: person to operate the rooms that you have to operate 166 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 1: obviously coming from I mean. 167 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:36,039 Speaker 3: The room though is full of like elite dudes. Man 168 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 3: Like I'm not sure about operating anything. Is It's more like, 169 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 3: you know, trying to pick the right guys that fit 170 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 3: what we want to get done. And then the boys 171 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:45,840 Speaker 3: come in and they kind of let it turn into 172 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:48,720 Speaker 3: what it's going to turn into Like, not that I 173 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 3: helped guide the room, but man, those guys, Marvin mac Julian, 174 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 3: all those guys run that room. David Johnson like, I 175 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 3: keep it on the tracks, but they run the show. 176 00:06:57,279 --> 00:06:59,039 Speaker 1: You said you didn't want to get into coaching, So 177 00:06:59,080 --> 00:06:59,920 Speaker 1: what got you in the coach? 178 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 2: Yeah? So I uh, because you had a nice career. Yeah, 179 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:02,720 Speaker 2: I was. 180 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 3: It was kind of good. I was living back in Columbus. 181 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:08,599 Speaker 3: My brother was coaching off the field for coach Meyer. Yeah, 182 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 3: and there was a fad there for a little bit 183 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 3: where like former players would come back and run scout team. 184 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 3: They kind of nixed that, but remember when Clempson had 185 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 3: some guys doing it, they talked me in doing it. 186 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 3: Bobby Carpenter was doing it, one of the linebackers. So 187 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:22,240 Speaker 3: we had some guys come back and my brother talked 188 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 3: me into it. While I was here, I was kind 189 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 3: of coaching up the guys and Terry McLaurin was here 190 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 3: in Paris. 191 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 2: Campbell and some. 192 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:31,440 Speaker 3: Of the guys I think coach Giano was now our 193 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 3: DC at the time. 194 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 2: Kind of got w into that. 195 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:35,440 Speaker 3: As I was over there was like, man, I think 196 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 3: you got to hire a coach heart I heard this 197 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 3: story after the fact. So coach Meyer was like, hey, heart, 198 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 3: I love to have you as a coach. I was like, 199 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 3: absolutely not. I was like, appreciate the offer. That's not happening. 200 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 3: And then that was a bull prep in sixteen, and 201 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 3: then he kind of, you know, we reconnected at one 202 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 3: point February before spring ball in seventeen, he gave me 203 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 3: that opportunity again. I just kind of felt like, you know, 204 00:07:57,160 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 3: guy was giving me a chance to right or wrong. 205 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 3: And I didn't have much going all the time. I 206 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 3: was like, man, I'm living up up the street. Let's 207 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 3: see what this coaching things all about. Never left since 208 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 3: it's really how it happened. 209 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 2: Sounds like you were getting a little bored. 210 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 1: A little bored exactly, but if you didn't want to 211 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 1: first and then you're kind of sting on your ass 212 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 1: a little bit longer and you're like, I'm like, nothing 213 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 1: going on, Let's do something. 214 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's even a while with how that happens to you. 215 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 4: Guys, like when you're playing ball a lot of the time, 216 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 4: especially late in the season, guys are like, fuck man, 217 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 4: when I'm done, I'm not doing a thing ever, fish 218 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 4: every day I'm gonna do this every day, and then 219 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 4: you get a few months out of it, and it 220 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 4: seems like guys always get like forward quick because in 221 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 4: a way, like your life's been structured since college, extremely structured, extremely. 222 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:38,079 Speaker 1: Structured, and extremely competitive. Yeah, you get burned out a 223 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 1: little bit. 224 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 3: And I don't know about any of you guys are hilarious, 225 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:42,959 Speaker 3: but like I got burned out with the sport at 226 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 3: some point, you know, and I had to get away 227 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 3: from it, and I'm like I'm out, you know, and 228 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 3: and then you kind of sit back. 229 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:49,679 Speaker 2: I went to my first like tailgate. I'm like, yo, 230 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 2: this is sweet, Like. 231 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:54,320 Speaker 3: This is why people like college football. This is why 232 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 3: we like football because we grew up in it. You 233 00:08:56,280 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 3: don't even realize it because we've never tailgated. You've never 234 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:02,839 Speaker 3: done the things outside of football that make it so great. 235 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:04,680 Speaker 3: And then you get a chance to do it and 236 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 3: you're like, I get it, and then you recharge your 237 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 3: batteries and like you're saying, like a competitive wise, I'm like, yeah, 238 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:10,439 Speaker 3: I gotta do something. 239 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 2: I can't be sitting around for next What burnt you out? 240 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 2: What burnt you out of football? 241 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 3: You know? I think the hardest thing for me is 242 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:18,440 Speaker 3: I was, you know, I love to win, and I was, 243 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:19,599 Speaker 3: you know, I had to hand them, you know, a 244 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 3: good amount of teams that we were a big five hundred 245 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:23,960 Speaker 3: all the time, Like we'd come down in the last 246 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 3: year in Miami and you know, we didn't pull it out, 247 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 3: whether it be Buffalo or New England or whoever, to 248 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 3: get to the playoffs, and we were just barely missing 249 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:31,320 Speaker 3: wild cards. 250 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:35,199 Speaker 2: And and uh, I hated losing. So it tired me out. 251 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:38,840 Speaker 3: I would say that coupled with change, you know, turnover 252 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 3: on staff, turnover head coach, position, coach, coordinators, like it's 253 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 3: it's a it's a people business. And I got tired 254 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:49,440 Speaker 3: of getting guys to like me over and over and 255 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 3: over and over and over again, because you do that's 256 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:53,200 Speaker 3: part of the game. Like you got to play the 257 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:55,440 Speaker 3: game in the NFL, and if you don't play the game, 258 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 3: it's easier to kind of move on from you. So 259 00:09:57,760 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 3: you're turn you're earning the trust of new hey, coaches, 260 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 3: a new coordinator, it's a new position coaches. It just 261 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:05,440 Speaker 3: gets older the fast. And if you get in a 262 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 3: spot where you're winning, there's not much turnover. Man, it's 263 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 3: it's easy, easier sometimes to ride that wave. But if 264 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:12,840 Speaker 3: you'd get in some spots where it's not I've seen 265 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:14,840 Speaker 3: it in the past, it can make it harder, you know, 266 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:18,000 Speaker 3: to kind of continue to prove yourself every year. And 267 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 3: so I think that kind of a combination of not 268 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:23,280 Speaker 3: winning enough and turnover on staffs a lot of it 269 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:23,960 Speaker 3: just burnt me out. 270 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:26,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, well you ended up going to the Browns, and 271 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 1: that's the wrong way to go if you want to 272 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:28,800 Speaker 1: go to winning. 273 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:29,319 Speaker 2: You know what I mean. 274 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:31,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, I will say, uh, two hours from home, I'm 275 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 3: gonna go ahead and take my butt back home. Yet Miami, 276 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 3: go back home, and uh see how this plays out. 277 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:38,560 Speaker 3: But yeah, it is what it is. 278 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:40,480 Speaker 4: As a coach, now, like, how do you see the 279 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 4: contest between being a coach and a player, Like what 280 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 4: are the biggest differences for you? Especially on game day 281 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:47,680 Speaker 4: because you still you can see it. You're a competitive cat. 282 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:49,640 Speaker 4: I'm sure there's times you look out there you're like, man, 283 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:50,560 Speaker 4: I can still put the shit on. 284 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I probably could do a couple reps, 285 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 3: not as many as I used to. But obviously the 286 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:59,719 Speaker 3: difference between being a player and a coach it is. 287 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:01,559 Speaker 3: I mean, I think that you. 288 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 2: Try to pull on as a player. So I try to. 289 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 3: Coach these guys the way I'd like to be coached, 290 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 3: not a big fluff guy. So like I'm getting straight 291 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 3: to the point, you know. So on game day, though, 292 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:15,200 Speaker 3: you know, you're always kind of nervous because it's like, hey, 293 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 3: it's in your hands. I feel like we do such 294 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 3: a great job through the week, I don't have a 295 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:22,280 Speaker 3: lot of nerves on game day. Like if we do 296 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 3: a lot of good work and boys are healthy and 297 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 3: we're out there putting our best foot forward, like I'm 298 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:29,440 Speaker 3: ready to roll, and my nerves is not being crazy 299 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 3: very competitive, you know, whether we're playing in the CFP 300 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 3: or the rivalry and all those definitely different. You wish 301 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 3: you could be out there. I'm like, okay, this is 302 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:38,960 Speaker 3: that one game where I wish I could go out 303 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:41,960 Speaker 3: there and hit somebody. But that's very few rivalries. One 304 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:44,720 Speaker 3: of them CFP is one of them. That's just kind 305 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:46,679 Speaker 3: of going to be in the hot moments. So it's 306 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 3: a little different, but it's out of your hands. That's 307 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:50,720 Speaker 3: the biggest thing, you know, you could you can't impact 308 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 3: the game anything about it. 309 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 4: Now when you're watching these players and like, let's say well, 310 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 4: I'm not going to name a specific school because it'll 311 00:11:56,520 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 4: be tough for you to answer that question. But like 312 00:11:57,840 --> 00:11:59,840 Speaker 4: at a school that you know from a talent standpoint, 313 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 4: it doesn't stack up to you, guys. 314 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 2: Right, how do you navigate? 315 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 4: It's probably got to be a lot easier when you're 316 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:06,720 Speaker 4: playing a top tier team. If you're in the CFP, 317 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 4: you're playing like a you know, a big rival team, 318 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:11,079 Speaker 4: it's probably easier. You know, the boys are gonna be ready, 319 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 4: like we just gotta get to the game, keep the 320 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 4: boys healthy and let's roll. When you're playing a smaller 321 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 4: time school, like do you switch up your coaching? Are 322 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 4: you a little harder on the boys like keeping their 323 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 4: mind on that? 324 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:21,200 Speaker 2: Definitely? The big picture is. 325 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:23,960 Speaker 3: Grading a standpoint, Absolutely, it's like a different mindset. But 326 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:27,720 Speaker 3: I'm actually more like uncomfortable against maybe a lesser foe 327 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 3: than the other ones because the rivalry in those games, 328 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:33,520 Speaker 3: they take care of themselves the only way you don't 329 00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 3: take care of business if you're not mentally like ready 330 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:38,559 Speaker 3: to turn it on like you are on those. 331 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:40,560 Speaker 2: See it every year having the biggest that's the worry 332 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:40,840 Speaker 2: for me. 333 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:44,480 Speaker 3: Like, so those are the ones that were more than 334 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 3: the other ones, Boys are gonna be ready for those. 335 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:48,360 Speaker 3: The other ones are like, could they talk themselves out 336 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 3: of it? Those are the ones you worry about in 337 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:54,120 Speaker 3: my opinion, you know, so uh again, you got to 338 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:55,480 Speaker 3: make sure you put these guys in good position and 339 00:12:55,520 --> 00:12:56,320 Speaker 3: they have to execute. 340 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:59,320 Speaker 2: But if you got pros pros, no issue. But those 341 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:01,440 Speaker 2: are the ones that worry. Yeah, even pros pros. 342 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:04,200 Speaker 4: I mean playing the league, we would play teams that 343 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:05,439 Speaker 4: were in the end of the year, they're out of 344 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 4: the playoffs or not. And you hear the boys in 345 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:09,560 Speaker 4: the locker room saying, we're going about to I'm about 346 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:11,360 Speaker 4: to get four sacks this game. I'm about to do this, 347 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:13,760 Speaker 4: And then you play long enough you start to realize, 348 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 4: like we should be worried. 349 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 2: Boys, if everyone's. 350 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:18,320 Speaker 4: Talking like this, we got to be a little more 351 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:21,280 Speaker 4: like you guys like three and they're like, I'm about 352 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:23,080 Speaker 4: to go off, and you gotta think yourself, like, god, 353 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 4: we might lose, Yeah, we might lose a little. 354 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 3: Now Detroit's out, they're not going to play very hard. Okay. 355 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:32,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like brother, it's still a game. It's still competitive, yeah, 356 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 2: still competitive. Yeah. 357 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 1: What are some of the biggest misinterpretations were missed going 358 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 1: from player to coach. 359 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 3: Uh, the assumption that a player can't be a coach 360 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 3: because of blank and then we get labeled a lot. 361 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:48,640 Speaker 3: I think a lot of players think they can just 362 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:51,840 Speaker 3: be coaches even because they played the game. Uh, that's 363 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 3: not the case either. But you know, I think that 364 00:13:56,920 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 3: it's good for the sport to have former players be 365 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:01,200 Speaker 3: in the sport as coaches. Now they have to earn it, 366 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:03,320 Speaker 3: and I get all that. It's amazing how much we 367 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:07,080 Speaker 3: didn't know when you get to being a coach, the 368 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:09,320 Speaker 3: correlation of you know, how important is it? 369 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:09,679 Speaker 2: Does it? 370 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 3: You know, attribute to wins, That's what it's all about. 371 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 3: But man, as a player, I wish I knew what 372 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 3: I know now. As a as a coach, you know then. 373 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:18,679 Speaker 3: But I think just getting mislabeled, that's part of it. 374 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 3: A lot of players think they can just be coaches. 375 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 3: It's not how it works, and vice versa. Just because 376 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 3: they were a player doesn't mean they couldn't be a 377 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 3: great coach. Because they didn't draw pictures since they were 378 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 3: twenty years old for eight years in visio like, doesn't 379 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 3: mean they can't be a coach. 380 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 2: So that's it. 381 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:37,680 Speaker 3: I think players also probably don't realize the amount of 382 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 3: time that goes in for these coaches and the investment 383 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 3: they have. I guess the hardest part sometimes is I'm 384 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 3: kind of an all in kind of dude, and so 385 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:48,920 Speaker 3: I'm all in on and athletes and and and the 386 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:50,760 Speaker 3: guys I pick for our room and all those kinds 387 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 3: of things in this whole new world. Sometimes you wonder 388 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 3: if the feelings mutual, you know, and and and I 389 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 3: think it's hard because coaches leave sometimes and then players 390 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 3: can now leave to like in the college world. But 391 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 3: I value the relationship and sometimes you know that's lost 392 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:11,640 Speaker 3: in all of this, especially in the NFL world, right, 393 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 3: I mean, there's still relationships should be with coaches. I 394 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:17,480 Speaker 3: think the NFL they minimize that importance, you know, relating 395 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 3: to coaches and coaches having players backs, and they minimize that. 396 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:23,520 Speaker 3: But gms don't take that into account when it comes 397 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:25,080 Speaker 3: to making decisions. 398 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:26,240 Speaker 2: So you're talking. 399 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 4: About the change of everything going on. How do you 400 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 4: navigate like the transfer portal when guys you like, we've 401 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:33,080 Speaker 4: talked about your wide receiver room, day talks about your 402 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:35,240 Speaker 4: defensive line room, your offens line room, like you have studs, 403 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 4: there's no question. 404 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 2: You have NFL talent all around this building. 405 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 4: How do you get guys that are sitting behind that 406 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:44,000 Speaker 4: NFL talent with probably just as much talent and saying, hey, 407 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 4: you got to be patient even though you could go 408 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:46,800 Speaker 4: play for this other big school. 409 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 2: Sure, I think that I think it's relationship based. 410 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 3: I mean if at the end of the day, I 411 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 3: think if you guys sit down and have conversations a 412 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 3: coach hart, what's my path, and you have an honest 413 00:15:57,600 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 3: conversation with them, and they can feel that it should 414 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 3: it probably is okay. You know, you can work through 415 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 3: all that based on the outside variables that maybe the 416 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 3: family or anybody else is feeling too in his circle. 417 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 3: But the relationship matters, you know, And I think the 418 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:14,120 Speaker 3: honesty being like, hey, man, like it is gonna be tough. 419 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 3: It's a long track. If you need this and this, 420 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:18,280 Speaker 3: maybe you should. You know, if you want to explore 421 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:20,720 Speaker 3: options you can. You know, just if you keep the 422 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 3: interest of the young man number one, it always works 423 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 3: itself out. I think that it's okay if guys find 424 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:31,920 Speaker 3: a better path somewhere else. I believe that, like, I'm 425 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:34,600 Speaker 3: still player oriented, and if you keep it that in 426 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:36,680 Speaker 3: that world. I think it always works itself out, and 427 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 3: so I try to have conversations and I give honest 428 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 3: feedback on what I would recommend them doing. And I 429 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:45,360 Speaker 3: think again, based on relationship, you can have those conversations. 430 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:47,280 Speaker 4: It's got to be the hardest of the special teams coach. 431 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 4: Special teams coach, you usually get the guys are like, 432 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 4: you know, two's are working through it. Like you guys 433 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:54,120 Speaker 4: that are playing three down are not going to be 434 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:55,120 Speaker 4: playing special teams a lot. 435 00:16:55,160 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 2: So you're telling the guy, hey, you probably look at it. 436 00:16:57,040 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 2: He's like, hey, he's the core four guys, right. 437 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:01,920 Speaker 3: And I would tell you this though we have in 438 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 3: our wide out. It's like if if you have some 439 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:06,400 Speaker 3: young guys coming in, right, they have some guys opportunities. 440 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:08,480 Speaker 3: If you don't trust those dudes, then all of a sudden, 441 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 3: I'm looking up and join Flemings on the front front 442 00:17:10,800 --> 00:17:14,840 Speaker 3: line of kor blocking some Will Compton running down on 443 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:18,159 Speaker 3: freaking kickoff, and so like you know it stud so 444 00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:21,200 Speaker 3: like you know, at the end of the day, it's 445 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 3: you know, yes, you need your guys, your young athletes 446 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 3: to step up because we believe, frankly, that's the gateway 447 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:27,480 Speaker 3: to offensive defense. 448 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:28,240 Speaker 2: I mean, you can't. 449 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:31,119 Speaker 3: Carry that job at a high level in the special 450 00:17:31,119 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 3: teams world. 451 00:17:31,960 --> 00:17:34,199 Speaker 2: How do you expect to go play on offensive defense? 452 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:37,880 Speaker 2: So but yeah, I mean it can be tough. I'm 453 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:40,320 Speaker 2: sure that's a conversation for a coach Fleming, but. 454 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:41,639 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like one of those things you got to 455 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 4: like you tell them the truth and like they have 456 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:44,119 Speaker 4: now they have to deal with that. 457 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, listen, brother, it is what it is. I have 458 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 2: to tell them the truth. 459 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:47,080 Speaker 3: Yeah. 460 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:47,600 Speaker 2: Yeah. 461 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:49,400 Speaker 4: When you're keeping the best interest of the player, though, 462 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 4: how do you not become a little more selfish because 463 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:53,679 Speaker 4: at the end of the day, your your career, yeah, 464 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 4: is riding on eighteen to twenty two year old that's true. 465 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 4: And so you're looking at a guy that's like, I know, 466 00:17:58,359 --> 00:17:59,959 Speaker 4: in two years he's going to be ready to go, 467 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:01,359 Speaker 4: but right now he's not. 468 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:02,760 Speaker 2: But he could play somewhere else. 469 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:05,359 Speaker 4: Yeah, Like, how did you disassociate that for you as 470 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 4: a coach, because at the end of the day, like 471 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:09,560 Speaker 4: this is in your ceiling for you, you want to 472 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:11,960 Speaker 4: keep going and growing in the ranks of the coaching world. 473 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 3: I would say, though, I mean, if you're that sure 474 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:17,320 Speaker 3: of a young man playing in a year or two 475 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:21,119 Speaker 3: and him knowing that that's okay it. I mean, at 476 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 3: the end of the day, doing it a year earlier 477 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:25,879 Speaker 3: doesn't ensure you anything, you know what I mean. But 478 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:28,160 Speaker 3: if coach are or any of the coaches looking at 479 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 3: you and telling you a certainty of where I see 480 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:31,720 Speaker 3: you're going to be in a year or two again 481 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:34,440 Speaker 3: based on that relationship, you know, you ride that out 482 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:35,080 Speaker 3: all your. 483 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:37,240 Speaker 2: Goals, which is probably the NFL it's still there. 484 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:39,280 Speaker 3: If you're telling me you want to speed the clock up, 485 00:18:39,359 --> 00:18:41,960 Speaker 3: I mean that's something you have to you have to 486 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:42,280 Speaker 3: talk to. 487 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 2: You know, talking about the clock up? Do you mean 488 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:45,680 Speaker 2: like leave earlier, do it in a year year earlier? 489 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 3: And then if you are doing that, you're probably not 490 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:49,359 Speaker 3: doing it. I mean, where are you going? I mean, 491 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:51,720 Speaker 3: we are blessed and coach Day is a phenomenal coach 492 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:54,720 Speaker 3: and we are the best offense in the country over 493 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 3: the last five to six years. So if you're not 494 00:18:56,560 --> 00:18:58,919 Speaker 3: playing this offense, where are you going? Who's your quarterback, 495 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:00,639 Speaker 3: who's the court? You know, there's a lot of variables 496 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:02,959 Speaker 3: that you're you're now playing with versus being like, all right, 497 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:05,359 Speaker 3: I'm gonna keep working. Coach Hart's telling me this, this 498 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:08,640 Speaker 3: and this, you know, go from there. You know, and 499 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:11,120 Speaker 3: and in the transfer world, like I've never taken there's 500 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:13,440 Speaker 3: never been a transfer receiver that come to Ohio State. 501 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:15,320 Speaker 2: So you see who's in the room. You see you're 502 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:16,120 Speaker 2: competing against. 503 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:19,080 Speaker 3: There's some variables that are under your control versus when 504 00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 3: you leave, variables change. Yeah, what are your career ambitions? 505 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:24,600 Speaker 3: You know, I would say when I have a job 506 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:28,160 Speaker 3: for coach RT Yeah, man, Like you know, in my soul, 507 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:30,000 Speaker 3: I'm an NFL guy. I love the NFL. 508 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:32,120 Speaker 2: I think it is the all star league of college football. 509 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:35,199 Speaker 3: I don't care where you're from, what school, small, big, Like, 510 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:36,760 Speaker 3: it's the best players in the world. 511 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:39,280 Speaker 2: There is no other better players. So I love that. 512 00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 3: I love the uh uh separate you know, agree of 513 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:45,400 Speaker 3: separation being so small. So I love that. I love 514 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:48,280 Speaker 3: my alma mater at Ohio State. So my heart's in 515 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:50,240 Speaker 3: the NFL. You know, I think one day I'd want 516 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:52,439 Speaker 3: to coach there. That's the reality of it. When I 517 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:54,000 Speaker 3: don't know, I mean, my in laws are here, my 518 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:57,160 Speaker 3: wife's from Columbus, Like there's just like a big foundation that's. 519 00:19:56,960 --> 00:19:57,800 Speaker 2: Been built here. Yeah. 520 00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:02,119 Speaker 3: Uh, I love coach the receivers. When I started, I'll 521 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:03,960 Speaker 3: be the receiver coach for the next fifteen twenty years. 522 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:04,880 Speaker 2: Leave me alone. I'm good. 523 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:08,120 Speaker 3: And then that kind of grows and as a competitor, right, 524 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:09,960 Speaker 3: I mean you're like, oh, people start putting nuggets in 525 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:12,360 Speaker 3: your head. I'm like, yeah, that'd be pretty sweet. Yeah, 526 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:16,080 Speaker 3: that'd be you know about it, And I'm like, I 527 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:18,840 Speaker 3: do I love I would love to. I love building 528 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:21,360 Speaker 3: the receiver room. I love that was an awesome opportunity 529 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:24,719 Speaker 3: and choosing it, developing it. I'm about to do that 530 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:26,480 Speaker 3: on a team. I'd like to be a head coach 531 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:28,480 Speaker 3: and try to, you know, do that team wine, not 532 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:31,560 Speaker 3: just a position based kind of doing that now offensively, 533 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:35,240 Speaker 3: you know a little bit. But I like dealing with people. 534 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:38,200 Speaker 3: I like building a team, whether it be a staff 535 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:40,199 Speaker 3: or whether it be a you know, individual players. 536 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 2: I like that. 537 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:43,560 Speaker 3: So you know where it ends up, couldn't tell you, 538 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:45,680 Speaker 3: but that intrigues me for sure. 539 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:46,960 Speaker 2: NFL head coach. 540 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, I would say, you know, I want to be 541 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 3: able to win a national championship in college, so we'd 542 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:52,960 Speaker 3: have to be, you know, a top program that paints 543 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:55,239 Speaker 3: that vision that that can get done there and then 544 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:56,040 Speaker 3: or the NFL. 545 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 2: I mean I think for me, I you know, like 546 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 2: you guys are probably similar. 547 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:02,119 Speaker 3: All the marbles gotta be on the table, like it 548 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:04,639 Speaker 3: has to be the pinnacle, or maybe I may not 549 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:07,680 Speaker 3: have as much interest if the pinnacle is not an 550 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:10,199 Speaker 3: option a super Bowl or a national championship. 551 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 2: That's hard for me. I want it. I want all 552 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:14,960 Speaker 2: the marbles on the table. I love that. 553 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:19,399 Speaker 4: Beautiful going by coach Hart. There's another coach heart in 554 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:19,840 Speaker 4: the Big Ten. 555 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:22,240 Speaker 2: Oh there is? Yeah, it's the running back coach from Michigan. 556 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:25,680 Speaker 2: Part of them. 557 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:28,879 Speaker 4: If you too, maybe got in a tussle, who do 558 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 4: you think would win that? Do you think so there 559 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:35,159 Speaker 4: is there is there any legend for the university of. 560 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:40,560 Speaker 3: Any in the country. They're all losing. He's them all. 561 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:42,639 Speaker 3: This is why we had this motherfucker. 562 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 2: I think he's the running backs coach. But I do 563 00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:48,440 Speaker 2: I do with that answer? 564 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 4: All right, cool, that's nothing else always and. 565 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:55,840 Speaker 2: That's my players. 566 00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 3: Like if you're not if you can't view yourself as 567 00:21:57,760 --> 00:21:59,200 Speaker 3: the dudes, you're never going to be the dude. You 568 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:01,240 Speaker 3: ever met a dude, I didn't know he was a dude. 569 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:03,280 Speaker 2: Sometimes, you know, every now and then, I don't know now. 570 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:04,560 Speaker 3: Then I got to look at the meror like, are 571 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:07,159 Speaker 3: you I never dude, I didn't know he was the 572 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 3: first round pick. 573 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:11,040 Speaker 2: I sucked in the first round. Holy cow. Like, if 574 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:12,840 Speaker 2: you don't view yourself that person, you're never going to 575 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:13,560 Speaker 2: be that person. See. 576 00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:15,000 Speaker 4: I think there's a big difference though, because there are 577 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 4: guys that like you look at them and you're like, oh, 578 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:18,440 Speaker 4: you're sow and so, But then you look at the 579 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:19,639 Speaker 4: way they act and everything, You're like. 580 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:23,679 Speaker 2: Oh, you don't know how Hard Jr. And her junior 581 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:27,359 Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes really Yes, I was Taylor and Hard Junior 582 00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 2: does not know he's Dailor and Hard Junior Broly. That's fascinating. Yeah, 583 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 2: I want to know that. I really want to know about. 584 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:35,240 Speaker 1: The most just the most salt of the years type 585 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:36,440 Speaker 1: of guy ever meet. 586 00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:39,920 Speaker 2: He hes awesome, sweetheart. Well you don't think he doesn't 587 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 2: think he was one of the best race car drivers. 588 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:42,879 Speaker 1: In the I'm sure he takes that, but I'm just 589 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 1: saying talking about the the carry. He won't say. He 590 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:49,440 Speaker 1: won't say pick anybody, pick anybody to lose. That's the confidence. 591 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:50,760 Speaker 1: But I think that's the confidence you had to have 592 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:53,000 Speaker 1: being a white skilled player growing up. You know what 593 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:54,679 Speaker 1: I mean, don't you're a unicorn. 594 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:56,800 Speaker 3: It was not like back hard. 595 00:22:57,000 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 2: How hard was that growing up? Playing you know white. 596 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:06,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, playing wide receiver, receive you better. 597 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 2: I mean, don't get me wrong. 598 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:10,320 Speaker 3: We could write books probably about you know how I 599 00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:14,480 Speaker 3: was on those like back and forth went writing for you. 600 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:16,040 Speaker 4: You know what I mean, Remember like my brother, you 601 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:17,800 Speaker 4: got your own story to tell. You're a white line back. No, 602 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:18,480 Speaker 4: but I like how I said. 603 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:19,200 Speaker 2: I like it. 604 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:20,960 Speaker 1: I liked him saying we could probably write a book. 605 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:23,000 Speaker 1: I'm like, wait, yeah, we go right, we can all 606 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:23,360 Speaker 1: get in. 607 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 2: There like that. 608 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:26,600 Speaker 3: I mean, they're all of them from you know, COMARTI 609 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:29,119 Speaker 3: in New York with Remus going God, she just wouldn't 610 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:33,199 Speaker 3: leave the freaking conference in New England and in uh 611 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:36,719 Speaker 3: New York, but all of them, you know, playing all 612 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:38,720 Speaker 3: the different corners throughout my time. 613 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 2: I never talked. First. 614 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:44,160 Speaker 3: I would just you know, throw a bug out there. Yeah, 615 00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:46,280 Speaker 3: I'll keep my kind of bug. I don't know if 616 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:47,040 Speaker 3: I can say that now. 617 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:49,760 Speaker 2: Is there in the middle of the road, you know 618 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:54,040 Speaker 2: what I mean? Because you know, you know, all that 619 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:55,040 Speaker 2: matters is the guys. 620 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:56,960 Speaker 1: You're recruiting, the guys in your room that see they're 621 00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:58,439 Speaker 1: gonna be yo, coach, you've got the sauce. 622 00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:01,320 Speaker 2: What you know, you gotta put on your tape in front. 623 00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:03,960 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, no, a lot of times. I mean I'm 624 00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:04,960 Speaker 2: getting for a move now. 625 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 3: So that's which is good, you know, getting grin earah yeah, yeah, 626 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:10,520 Speaker 3: I turned it, turned it on. Sometimes you're like, wow, 627 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:15,640 Speaker 3: I'm getting old now, ye know, ship but no, it's uh, 628 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:18,199 Speaker 3: it's been good, you know, I think, Uh, but no, 629 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:19,560 Speaker 3: at the end of the day, I didn't I didn't 630 00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:21,760 Speaker 3: want to get anybody fired up. I just made sure that, 631 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:23,520 Speaker 3: you know, after I made a play and they just 632 00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:28,720 Speaker 3: they just knew, don't show your friends that. Yeah. 633 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:32,280 Speaker 4: I was the exact we're talking no, no, no, no no. 634 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:36,720 Speaker 4: I was a mouth the individual choir boy. Yeah American, 635 00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:37,600 Speaker 4: I would say. 636 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:42,919 Speaker 3: Definitely you on the sideline, uh with was ite of 637 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:43,480 Speaker 3: my favorites. 638 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:48,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, well he that was an outrageously late hit on Marcus. 639 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:50,879 Speaker 4: That was just crazy to watch. And that's when they 640 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:53,359 Speaker 4: were still the Legion of Boom okay, like who's the safety? 641 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:57,680 Speaker 2: Who? Every one him? Chancellor Chancellor Earl Thomas. 642 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 4: He would watch away right with that dark visor on 643 00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:03,480 Speaker 4: when we were playing them like a noon game. I'm like, 644 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:05,879 Speaker 4: this motherfucker is a safety and there's a couple of 645 00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:08,159 Speaker 4: players we had to put him. It's called structure of 646 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:10,240 Speaker 4: the safety rolls down. We would just push it to 647 00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:12,520 Speaker 4: the next guy, and I'm thinking to myself, I got 648 00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:14,639 Speaker 4: to hit this fucking dude because you've seen him and 649 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:15,440 Speaker 4: it's hits he puts on it. 650 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:17,280 Speaker 2: He's like, he don't care about me. He does not 651 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:18,040 Speaker 2: care about me at all. 652 00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:20,240 Speaker 1: We're getting super comfortable with coach card hearts in here 653 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:21,400 Speaker 1: because we're kind of letting some work. 654 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:24,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, and now for some beeps. You had two and 655 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:26,880 Speaker 2: that two f's and that little sword. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 656 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:29,479 Speaker 4: I can't say. I don't want to say fuck. It's 657 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:31,360 Speaker 4: like it's like, uh, I don't want to say loud 658 00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:33,359 Speaker 4: because I don't just like it's like the Top one hundred, 659 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:34,800 Speaker 4: that's the first time I kind of saw you. I 660 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 4: was like, Oh, this guy, I can rock with him. 661 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:39,960 Speaker 1: What do you mean when you were on the top 662 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:41,480 Speaker 1: one hunter and doing an interview and you're like, I 663 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:44,680 Speaker 1: can't say, they're like bleeping it out every time. 664 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:46,440 Speaker 2: Is that why you did the same bit? Oh? 665 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:48,040 Speaker 4: I always watched it and I was like that's funny. 666 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:50,879 Speaker 4: Will did that? I know you stole that from. 667 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:53,119 Speaker 1: This is This is when I we didn't even know 668 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:55,760 Speaker 1: each other either. I was like, oh this, I like this. 669 00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:57,760 Speaker 1: Hey you're a good You're a good hang. I almost 670 00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:00,920 Speaker 1: dropped another one, bro, I am comfortable. 671 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:03,320 Speaker 2: Man. 672 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:06,600 Speaker 4: There were some good ones though, talking back, Yes, because dude, 673 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:08,240 Speaker 4: when you're when you're a skilled player, oh my white 674 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:10,280 Speaker 4: skill player, you watch them out there and you're like, hey, brother, 675 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 4: good luck, and then they kind of like, hey, it 676 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:14,119 Speaker 4: is something real nice out there, and it's always a hey, 677 00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:16,160 Speaker 4: you're pretty shifty for a white guy, and you're pretty 678 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:17,000 Speaker 4: quick for a white guy. 679 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:19,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, man, you're fasteran I thought, yeah, yes, dude. 680 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:20,640 Speaker 3: Yea knock for that one. 681 00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:23,040 Speaker 2: Remember Dean Sanders. It makes you feel good when you 682 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 2: get that. Yeah you get that. 683 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:27,280 Speaker 3: It's like I'm really approval or because at some point 684 00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:28,720 Speaker 3: I might have said I I tried to warn you, 685 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:30,119 Speaker 3: like I get to give him one of those, you know, 686 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:32,040 Speaker 3: because I would do a little bit of something. Yeah 687 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:34,240 Speaker 3: they'll laugh and then I'll do something and like try 688 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:37,560 Speaker 3: to warn you don't show your friends when. 689 00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:39,720 Speaker 1: You get called like white chocolate, You're just like, oh 690 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:41,520 Speaker 1: that was that never got that was our thing. 691 00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:45,760 Speaker 3: That was me and Brandon Marshall in Miami. So like 692 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:48,320 Speaker 3: that was our little back and forth. I was playing 693 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:50,040 Speaker 3: to be marsh in Miami. That was a big time. 694 00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:52,200 Speaker 3: Even Mike Wallace, it was like playing for branded. Playing 695 00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:55,440 Speaker 3: with Brandon Marshall awesome. I mean he was he was 696 00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:58,960 Speaker 3: bashit crazy. But like I love playing with them, and 697 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:01,280 Speaker 3: we had a great rapport. I would still stay connected 698 00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:03,840 Speaker 3: now every time in Miami recruit and or for Laddy, 699 00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:06,159 Speaker 3: I'll try to see him. Yeah he's down there. But 700 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:09,160 Speaker 3: I love b marsh Man. I love you know, I. 701 00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:11,639 Speaker 2: Love that guy. An outstanding job. Yeah yeah, yeah, I 702 00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:16,600 Speaker 2: am athlete. Yeah. Top three wide receiver talents that you've 703 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:19,159 Speaker 2: coached up three i've coached. 704 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:22,600 Speaker 3: In the league. 705 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:24,840 Speaker 2: All in general, like. 706 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:27,840 Speaker 1: I say, in general, they're probably or not they can 707 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:29,159 Speaker 1: be here. Yeah, they can be here. 708 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:34,280 Speaker 3: That's hard I think that. Uh, you know, they're all 709 00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:36,159 Speaker 3: different in their own way, frankly, but or not. 710 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:36,960 Speaker 2: Uh. 711 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:40,520 Speaker 3: You know, the things that Terry McLaurin does and and 712 00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:43,159 Speaker 3: did is different than the way Crystal Lave plays and 713 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:47,119 Speaker 3: the way Garrett plays Jackson's his whole other animal. And 714 00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:49,600 Speaker 3: then Marvin Harrison is his whole other animal. So like 715 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:53,720 Speaker 3: I had picked three, Wow, I don't. 716 00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:55,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean those five are really the. 717 00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:57,320 Speaker 3: One the rank them? 718 00:27:57,400 --> 00:28:00,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, oh my god, Like what's what's what's the one? 719 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:03,280 Speaker 2: Who's the one scary serry? 720 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 3: I would say, I would say Marvin right now, Marvin 721 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:15,480 Speaker 3: Harrison number one NFL NFL like you know, NFL makeup 722 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:19,960 Speaker 3: NFL prototype, right, yeah, Marvin's that NFL prototype you know. Wow, 723 00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:24,440 Speaker 3: three six, four, two oh eight, pushing sub four four. 724 00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:26,919 Speaker 4: Probably sophomore last year, right, he's a sophomore, He's got 725 00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:27,600 Speaker 4: one more year, he. 726 00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:29,639 Speaker 2: Does, he's already he's already projected like top. 727 00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:31,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, but you think it's in his best interest to 728 00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:34,040 Speaker 4: sit out this year and go to the draft, right, 729 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:35,440 Speaker 4: not not play college. 730 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:38,640 Speaker 3: That's just that's just oh wow, yeah. Yeah, it's a 731 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:43,000 Speaker 3: North conversation there, I'm conversation. No, I mean no, not 732 00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:45,520 Speaker 3: absolutely not. I think he says because like he does 733 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:48,239 Speaker 3: have major goals of what he wants to accomplish, you know, 734 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:52,240 Speaker 3: whether it be post team awards, winning rivalries, winning champion. 735 00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:53,239 Speaker 2: He does not give that up. 736 00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:55,840 Speaker 3: He's an ultimate competitor and if he wasn't doing that, 737 00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:57,200 Speaker 3: he wouldn't be who he is. 738 00:28:57,280 --> 00:28:59,440 Speaker 2: So they'd be like a total alter that is that 739 00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:01,840 Speaker 2: is a fan. I mean, just the way the bass 740 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:03,560 Speaker 2: of a bias. If I don't want to see him 741 00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:07,000 Speaker 2: right right, you don't want to mess do whatever he wants. 742 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:08,120 Speaker 2: I hope he gets paid. I hope he makes a 743 00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:11,040 Speaker 2: billion dollars. Yeah, brother, you should go sit out, especially 744 00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:13,280 Speaker 2: that last one. Yeah. Physical, that game is a little 745 00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:17,720 Speaker 2: too physical, you know, yeah, sure, sure, yeah, And. 746 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:20,480 Speaker 3: Then I think you know you have to go Jackson 747 00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:23,040 Speaker 3: all right Jackson. And the only reason why I feel 748 00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:25,640 Speaker 3: very comfortable saying that is because Chris and Garrett chose 749 00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:26,160 Speaker 3: him as well. 750 00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:28,880 Speaker 2: So that's their comment on But. 751 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:31,520 Speaker 3: Like when when they were kind of talking about it, 752 00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:33,240 Speaker 3: I mean, the things he does, he makes me look 753 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:34,960 Speaker 3: like a really good scoach. And I don't like I 754 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:37,640 Speaker 3: didn't do anything. He just he just was himself. So 755 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:42,280 Speaker 3: but his uh, it's changed changed direction. Ball skills are ridiculous. 756 00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:44,640 Speaker 3: Like he's going to be very very very good in 757 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:49,520 Speaker 3: the NFL. Uh, Chris and Garrett, you know they're you know, 758 00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:52,280 Speaker 3: Garrett had a hell of a year obviously, Rookie of 759 00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:54,920 Speaker 3: the Year. Uh, you probat to give him the nod 760 00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:57,920 Speaker 3: just because of that. Then next, you know, and then 761 00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:01,960 Speaker 3: it's between Terry and Chris. You know, one was the 762 00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:04,280 Speaker 3: eleventh overall pick and one makes twenty three million a year. 763 00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:06,640 Speaker 3: I don't know, so it's kind of a coin flip. 764 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:09,160 Speaker 3: I would say that they love Terry up in Washington, 765 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:10,800 Speaker 3: I know, and I gotta sit probably I just probably 766 00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:13,000 Speaker 3: say Terry right now because he's done it in the 767 00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:15,560 Speaker 3: NFL for three or four plus years. 768 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:17,320 Speaker 2: That's worth his weight and goal on me. 769 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:18,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, a guy doing it one year is one thing 770 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:20,760 Speaker 3: I didn't Chris knows how much I love him. But 771 00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:23,360 Speaker 3: you're talking about elite group of dudes there, and I 772 00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:25,640 Speaker 3: think that it's easy. It's easy to do it once, 773 00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:28,320 Speaker 3: really hard to do it two, three, four or five 774 00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:29,640 Speaker 3: more ears like that. 775 00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:30,800 Speaker 2: And become a list. 776 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:33,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, like those guys, they they're gonna look and they're 777 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:35,720 Speaker 4: the guys that weren't one. You're they're gonna text you, yeah, 778 00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:37,880 Speaker 4: the one they're in a group chat and they can 779 00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:39,600 Speaker 4: all yeah yeah. But at the end of the day, 780 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:41,040 Speaker 4: like that's a stud group. 781 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:44,360 Speaker 1: He's named off in Terry becoming a captain to like 782 00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:46,600 Speaker 1: obviously I played there, but I don't know him at all. 783 00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:49,600 Speaker 1: And the next I student I do still have there, 784 00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:50,480 Speaker 1: like they just rave about. 785 00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:53,960 Speaker 2: It was from a leadership, wasn't he He might have been. Yeah, 786 00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:55,360 Speaker 2: I think like in the middle of the sea he 787 00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:55,680 Speaker 2: might have. 788 00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:57,960 Speaker 1: I know he called up the team in the middle 789 00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:00,880 Speaker 1: of a game and kind of like, you know, thrusted 790 00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:03,160 Speaker 1: himself to be like a captain guy. I don't know 791 00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:04,560 Speaker 1: if he got to see the first year. I think 792 00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:06,840 Speaker 1: mid year he did. Yeah, I know midyear he like 793 00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:09,560 Speaker 1: rallied the guys a great man and we gotta have 794 00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:10,600 Speaker 1: to do all that the boys. 795 00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:13,320 Speaker 2: The boys are just telling me that's goody all right, Yeah, 796 00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:15,240 Speaker 2: this has been incredible. Yeah, I'm good. We're gonna do 797 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:17,440 Speaker 2: this again sometime. I love you become head on the. 798 00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:20,640 Speaker 1: Bus, yes, yeah, and then he he comes on the bus. 799 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:23,040 Speaker 1: Honestly he makes that leap too. Yeah. 800 00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:25,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, man, you want you to be a head coach 801 00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:27,520 Speaker 4: on the list we need to press let's go. 802 00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:30,920 Speaker 3: Let's say it's been an honor, just like let me know. Yeah, 803 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:32,720 Speaker 3: you know what I mean. We know some people, you 804 00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:34,520 Speaker 3: know some people you put in good work. Yeah, well, 805 00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:37,680 Speaker 3: I appreciate you guys being here real talk and enjoy Columbus, 806 00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:39,920 Speaker 3: great people, great city, is fun. Believe it or not, 807 00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:43,400 Speaker 3: and you got here once before and I did enjoy it. 808 00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:45,680 Speaker 3: It's awesome. People are awesome and they're here to supports 809 00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:47,000 Speaker 3: you all. You guys sold out their spots, so have 810 00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:49,120 Speaker 3: a good time. I'm glad you tweeted bro Man, I'm 811 00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:50,040 Speaker 3: glad you tweeted the. 812 00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:54,600 Speaker 2: Boys did it up. Please subscribeate five stars. Thank you. 813 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:00,200 Speaker 4: M